Best of Boxing News Part 1: HEATED DEBATE if Floyd Mayweather Jr. has GONE BROKE after UNRETIRING

Hello, it's your favorite sports thunk here. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, Nightcap doesn't happen without you. So please subscribe or you're gonna make Ocho cry. Well, how about this here? Floyd Mayweather Jr. said he's unretiring and will resume his undefeated career after his planned exhibition against Mike Tyson. Floyd, from my upcoming Mike Tyson event to my next professional fight afterwards. No one will generate a bigger gate, have a larger global broadcast audit, and generate more money with each event than my events. And I plan to keep doing it with my global media partner, CSI Sports slash Fight Sports. Ocho? Hey, I'm glad we own this one. I'm glad we own this one. Go ahead. Take it away. Hey, chat, stay with me real quick. Y'all know how much I love boxing. I'm a boxing enthusiast. and I'm one that's been in the ring as well. I've trained with all the best fighters in the world. But in order for Floyd to come back, right, to be able to command the kind of money he wants, obviously I'm not sure if he's in financial problems or not, but why would you at this age come out of retirement after not fighting since, what, 2017, if I'm not mistaken? Something like that? Yeah, it's about eight years. Yeah, eight years. Outside of exhibitions, obviously, is to do what he's always said is have a bank robbery with no mask on. So if that's what you're going to do, there are only three fights. Chat, listen to me. There are only three fights that Floyd can have that can command and get the kind of money he's looking to recoup for money that may have been lost or money that may have been stolen or money he may have spent, you know, to date. For one, a rematch with Canelo. That's one fight. Canelo too big. Listen to me, Unc. We talk about making that money. He ain't going to have no choice. Number two, fighting Pacquiao again. Right? That's it. And the only other fight that can get him the kind of money and the kind of pay that he might need if you're coming out of retirement and putting your record in jeopardy, and that's Bud. Man, Lord, how much. Listen to what I'm saying. Whether you want to see it or not, the only three fights that are going to get him the kind of money he's coming out of retirement to get that the world wants to see, Canelo, Pacquiao, or Bud. There is no one else for him to fight that people are going to pay money to see. Think about it. For one, in order for him to come out of retirement, you have to put yourself in harm's way. You have to take a chance. You can't just be fighting anybody. They're not going to pay to see you just fight anybody. I hope what they're saying. It has to be a draw. Canelo, you got to take a chance. You don't have a choice. He has to take a chance. He does really. Ocho, his claim to fame. Yes. And everything that he's ever done was for what? That O. Yeah. If the O is gone, you look at him differently. He's not the same, Ocho. Yeah. He's not. His claim to fame is that I can say something. All the fighters that you say are great. Right. None of them can say that above me. You talk about Sugar Ray. You talk about Hearns. You talk about Hagler. You talk about Roy Jones. You talk about Sugar Ray Robinson. You talk about Lewis and Ali. Whomever. He always goes back to the O. If the O is gone, where does he put his hat now? I have no idea. I have no idea. I mean, damn, that's, I don't know. I don't know. I'm talking about paydays. I'm talking about paydays, you know? You're 50 and old. His reflexes aren't the same, Ocho. I know that, um. Well, I mean, obviously, once you get older, Father Time catches up with you at some point, but he's still one of the best ever. Yeah. He's still one of the best ever. when he was fighting not at 50 not in his 40s yes in his 20s and 30s yes yes yes i give a prime example when floyd fought conor mcgregor a prime floyd gets conor out inside of two rounds but he didn't want to that it's all about it's all about carrying him he can't he carried him through the fight just to give the people what they wanted but go ahead but yeah You look at him, Ocho, he's not going to be able to see those punches of them young kids throwing now. Well, he's not fighting somebody young. Them young boys will cut. Huh? I just gave you the three fights. That makes sense. Ocho, he can't, Ocho, and he'll go right back into retirement. I don't think Bud will take the fight. Bud don't want to hurt him. He got too much respect for him. Bud will hurt him, Ocho. Bud is still at the top. Bud is the pound-for-pound best fighter in the world. And you talking about after an eight-year layoff, you can come and fight him? Do you understand why he's coming out of retirement? Are we missing the point here? We understand. Come on, man. No, no, no, Ocho. I hope that's not true. I hope he, Ocho, I hope he has an itch. Ocho, I can hope. I hope he has an itch to scratch. And he needs to scratch that itch. I'm hoping that's the case, Ocho. I'm hoping. I can hope. Let me hope, Ocho. I don't want to be cynical. I don't want to be skeptical. I want to believe that the man has an itch that he wants to scratch and it only can be scratched getting back into the ring. I don't want to think that financially his situation is unstable. I don't. I don't want to. Orjo, why are you looking at me like that, man? No, I'm just listening. I hear you. I'm listening. No, but I'm saying why are you looking at me like that? I don't even listen. No, no, no, no. I'm just listening. I'm just listening. I hope. I mean, we can hope, Ocho, can't we? Oh, Lord have mercy. This man, Lord Jesus. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I just know he's coming out and maybe, maybe. i mean look i i chat i this is not no breaking news y'all have heard all the reports and people who said floyd is broke and this and i don't know i don't know floyd like that i don't i don't know the man finances and i'm not gonna get up and say pretend like i do i just hope i can hope yeah that that's not the case yeah i mean um i i mean i'm i'm listen i'm excited i'm excited as a as a fan of ford as a fan of boxing i look forward to him not fighting exhibition but having to fight and actually train the way he's always trained that has him 50 and 0. that has me excited is he gonna look like the four we used to seeing when he fought earlier in his in his career we know when he's been in his 20s when he's in his 30s probably not but he's no he reflects the floor yeah even even even if his reflexes are a little slower it gives me a certain excitement giving me a certain excitement to know floyd is coming back to that ring going back into the ring and he's going to take a fight very seriously he's going to chain train very seriously it just makes me excited and now i just threw out the three names to me despite the size despite whoever's in their prime despite whoever's younger to me it it it to come back at this point you know at 48 or 47 whatever it is and you're 50 you know the biggest fights that can generate the most money for someone who's nicknamed money made with the three names whether people say oh that's dumb you're not making no sense it makes the most sense from a financial standpoint and drawing in that kind of revenue and that was canelo whether he's big or not that was bug whether he's the best in the world right now or not and that was manny pacquiao that's all i'm saying whether you think it's dumb or not i'm thinking from i'm thinking from this aspect okay let me ask you a question first of all canelo can't get canelo ain't going under 168 bud ain't going under 160. so what so floor you gonna have floyd come up to 160. nah i'm i'm i'm not he's only fought one time at 154 he fought de la jolie at 54. i'm not talking about weight classes i said what makes the most sense now what they decide to do is on them i'm talking about from a financial standpoint if you're having to come back at this point in your career after eight year layoff we talk about okay i need a big payday that's all i'm talking about well fight shakur shakur right at 447 fight keshaan davis no come on man you can't fight the young bull you can't fight the young bulls you want to fight you want him to fight bud he come out better he's gonna come out better against him than bud But at least you're like, well, damn, he got a hillbilly heartbeat chance. He's not effing with Bud. Just a few weeks ago, Floyd filed a lawsuit against Showtime Networks and the former president of Showtime Sports, accusing the company of helping facilitate a fraud scheme that deprived him of roughly $340 million in earnings. God damn. $340? That's what the lawsuit said. I don't know, Ocho. Hold on, hold on. Time out, time out, time out, time out. Let me get me a paper towel because just $340 million. Hold on, hold on, because now you got me sweating. Now you see why, you know what, I'm kidding. Ocho, I'm just saying I don't know why this man coming back. I'm not fair to profess that I know, but I've heard what the chat has heard and see all the reports where people say that he's in a financial bind. I don't know that to be true. He has reports that he has sold some properties. I think he had a property in L.A. He had a property in Miami. He has a big residency out here in Vegas. He has the private plane. so I don't know I don't know Ocho I don't know I don't know normally people that are well off don't go back into a sport as by Baric as boxing at 48 x y and z that's not normal but everything doesn't have to make sense to me it just has to make sense to him and obviously it makes sense hey I know I know a lot of people they probably gonna laugh they're going to talk about weight. Oh, they can't fight these individuals because of how good they are right now. And Floyd, even though he might be a little slower, his timing not be the same as it once was. But I'm hypothetically speaking, if he's coming back in need of huge, huge payouts for fights, I just threw out the three names that would make the most sense, that would generate the most money to maximize his time coming out of retirement at 48 and putting a chance in losing, you know, that zero in that 50-0 record. I mean, it'd be massive. It'd be massive. And I know Turkey Ali, if he gets involved in that, it can be, ugh, it can get ugly, ugly in a good way. It can get ugly in a good way from a financial standpoint. Mayweather says that he suffered enormous financial harm and is missing at least $340 million from a reported $1.2 billion that he actually earned in his professional fight career. Oh, my goodness. $340? Who I got the swing on? I mean... What is that? Ocho, that's an addition. So he's reporting that they boosted, however they did it, 340, but he earned 1.2. So that's 1.5. Damn. Florida's lived in Vegas. So those career earnings, I mean, Uncle Sam only taking 37%. Because he ain't paying no state taxes. oh man i just hey i like it i like it i listen i don't i'm listen i i don't i don't i don't care what the reason is why you're coming back i'm glad you're coming back because i get to watch listen i get to watch you fight again i don't i get the way i get to watch the greatest boxer all-time fight again even at 48 years old and he had to take it serious because his record is at stake so i know i know one one thing one thing we know about floyd one thing we know about him hardest worker in the sport and he ain't taking no shortcuts and he ain't cutting no corners so you know what you're gonna get once he's stepping that ring he lose you still got him as the greatest fighter come again i ain't hear you if he loses when he comes back or do you still have him as the greatest fighter can i tell you something yes if he comes back he's not gonna lose well he's gonna have to fight you said he can't fight anybody outside of the people that you dismayed now the people i name i said being able to maximize your purse outside those names that i did name maximizing your purse would be taking those fights regardless of weight and all that stuff i'm not sure how i'm just i'm just i'm speaking from a financial standpoint that's all that's all you think you think right now give him six months a year he could beat bud crawford in a 12-round fight who you at how you ask how you asking me wait they ain't fight yet do you believe you're gonna have to pick a side just like the super bowl you like okay i'm taking seahawks yeah you took seattle even though they hadn't played so i'm asking you floyd and bud fight you taking floyd or you taking bud yeah oh that's that's ugly um that's ugly right there what you mean it's ugly i'm just saying just the question the question at hand because you you oh that's a good one too huh who you got huh who you got hey chat who y'all got hypothetically everybody got bud you got you got bud yeah Floyd reflexes the man about to be 50 50 damn how old is Floyd? 48 we just ain't I mean he 48 I'm 10 years older so yeah I was born in 68 Floyd was born in yeah hey hey what what Hey I'm excited I'm ready to get back in that thing Who you want me to fight I don't want to I hate it Wait I hate the Floyd having to come back No I don't hate it I want to see him go I want to see him go I want to see him go I want to see him go I want to see him go Hey I want to see him go I want to see him go Hey I ready to see him go That would be the equivalent That would be the equivalent that 10 years after, 10 years after Michael Jordan retired, he came back and tried to play basketball again at 50. Hey, I like that too. I like that too. I like that too. I like that too. No, you make all that money, man. You make all that money. You're supposed to be able to set generations, like at least, at least, at bare minimum, four to five generations up. And then never have to turn. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Listen, you're setting yourself up a generational wealth when you live a minimalistic lifestyle. Now, look. Come on, now. Come on, come on, come on. We don't have to get into it. We know Floyd was a little extravagant. A little? He was a little extravagant. Come on, man. Hey, a little. Yeah. Hey, you know what? 48. But the thing is, is that what you have to realize is that when you're making 200 million, it ain't nothing to spend 15, 20 million. Shouldn't be. But when you, Ocho, when you retire, and you still live that, Ocho, I can go get me a car every other year. I can go get me a Ferrari or I can get a Lambo when I'm making 20, 30 million and the money coming in. Okay, the money stops. Yeah. And I still try to have that same lifestyle. See, that's the problem that you run into is that you try to keep the same lifestyle that you have in retirement that you have when you was at your maximum earning potential. It's impossible. And I understood that while I was playing. We know it's impossible. I know, but sometimes people don't understand. Actually, if you can train yourself, if you can discipline yourself and find a structured format to be able to live a minimalistic lifestyle while you're still earning at your highest potential, it makes the transition once you retire that much easy. Why do you think I've been, I mean, I hate using me as an example, but I'm the only person I can use as an example because I'm living proof of doing it. And not only did I do it, I talk it, I preach it. and people still make fun of him to this day and still don't get it. Why I'm still well off. Because I was a cheap son of a bitch when I was playing. Oh, I'm sorry. My bad. Because I was a cheap son of a you-know-what while I was playing. Yes, that jury wasn't real. No of them watches wasn't real. For what? It didn't make any sense. My name was bigger than anything I could purchase at the time I was playing football. I haven't played football in 15, what, 12? I don't know how long it's been. And I'm still good. Nobody gets the formula. Nobody gets what I was doing. There was a method to my madness. So I wouldn't be a statistic. That's all I didn't want to be a statistic. I don't have any problem enjoying because a part of it is that you work so hard and not to really enjoy to buy yourself a car or to buy yourself a watch or buy yourself a nice home or do some occasionally some stuff for your family. But Ocho, at what point in time? I like cars. I don't like 50 cars. I like homes. I don't need 10 homes. I don't. I will have a, you know, maybe I would fly private once or twice a year. Damn! But to have a private jet. Right. And to have that staff, because even when they're not flying, they're still getting paid. It's just like a yacht. It's just like a yacht, Ocho. That takes a staff. It takes a crew. So even when that yacht's not on the water, they still getting paid. Hey, hey, hey, that, hey, like owning a jet and owning a yacht, that's for, correct me if I'm wrong, isn't that for CEOs? Yeah, a lot of CEOs because the company pays for. Owners? Yeah, well, yeah, if, yeah, if you're worth 10, 15, 20 billion, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. See, it makes sense for them to have it. But for us regular folk, I never understood, you know, sometimes I look at... My time share is in it. So you know what? I'm going to spend a million dollars. A million dollars probably get me, you know, it'll get me 50 hours. But Ocho, I'm not flying overseas on no private jet. Because how far are you going? If it takes you 18 hours to get there and 18 hours to get back and you bought 50 hours, that's 36 hours there. Hey, can I ask you a question? I'm curious. Why do people love on Instagrams, why do they love showing themselves going and getting on private jets and jet setting? I don't understand. Look, and I get why people fly private because of the convenience of it. The jet leaves when you want to leave. You're not on the schedule of Delta America. And a lot of times, Ocho, and I'm just talking about high value people. I'm not, and that's what I'm talking about, Ocho. So you look at it, and so that's the convenience. You ain't got to worry about the airport. You pull up to the hangar. You get your car, you get on, and you hop right on. You got the staff, whatever the case may be, whatever you want. They'll have it there. You get there, boom, drop you off. You get in the car, and you go wherever you go. So I get it. I get it. As someone that has flown private, I get why the convenience of it. But to own one, to actually say, okay, that's mine. And you're talking about, you know, I mean, probably you can get a cheap one for probably around probably five million, and they go up to half a billion. Get a cheap what? A jet. Oh, can I ask you? Yeah. Who make... Who making... who's making that kind of money, right? Where they can stand and say, you know what? He go five million for a jet. Outside of NBA, outside of owner, owners that own NFL teams, you know, MLB teams. Well, I guarantee you Peyton, I guarantee you Tom Brady ain't been on a commercial flight in 20 years. I guarantee you Peyton Manning ain't been on a commercial flight in 20 years. They don't own one. there's a difference that's what i'm saying you lease it or they buy timeshares in it cool no problem hey i got a question yes now when you say timeshare now this is all new to me and i'm glad i could be on here for this segment where i can learn something by hours you buy 50 you buy 100 hours oh that's that's too high you're going too high now it all depends on how much you're going to use it ocho i just want one flight one flight me and the kids to the the Bahamas two hour trip how much is that it's gonna take you it all depends on how big a plane you get all right it's gonna it's gonna be somewhere between it could be anywhere between 25 and five all the way up to 20,000 an hour no you said 25 like 2,500 $2,500 it all depends on the size of the plane okay you want something that's safe you don't want no crop dusting with you and all your kids on it so you're gonna want something safe you're probably not gonna be able to get it for less than probably say five to seven thousand seventy five hundred dollars an hour that's one way or two way that's one way so i'll be gonna get back well you said you just wanted for an hour how long is it gonna take you from miami to the uh the bahamas about 40 minute flight okay so it could probably cost you probably cost you somewhere between 10 and 20 thousand dollars oh Ooh. Ooh. Ooh, Lord. No, sir. So, now think about taking a private jet overseas. Take it to Dubai. Take it into Africa. Take it to Europe. Oh, no. You're talking about 10 hours. And you're talking about 10 hours of the jet that's costing you $50,000 an hour, or excuse me, 25. Look at what a G6 costs, a Gulfstream 6. Hold on. Or Airbus. An hour? Yes! Look up what the price of a G, a G650, because I think they got a G650, maybe even a G7 right now. Let me Google this. See what that is for... G... G... What did it cost an hour, just to rent it an hour? Private jet... 10 to 20,000 per hour oh man shoot well hey hey so you going overseas can you go overseas is i mean i'm trying to figure out where can you fly for less than a hundred thousand even if you go from new york to london that's what eight hours uh-huh and that's what 20,000 hour yes That's oh my oh no, but y'all can have that boy. Listen, I appreciate American. I appreciate Delta. I appreciate spirit, you know, but I can't see myself doing it unless unless God bless me in some. Yeah, that's right. I would never own one of those jokes. I would I would I would rent it. But here's the thing. Ain't nobody. None of my family is in the same. So I would have to have the jet fly fly to go pick up my sister. fly to go pick up my mom, fly to go, it'll come out better. Just fly everybody just where you're from, which is me. It's just easy to do it that way. And if I'm going overseas, I can fly Emirates. I can fly Qatar Air. Yeah, bingo. I can fly one of those, Ocho, and pay $20,000. And got a shower, I got a big old bed, I got a couch, got a big screen TV. They bring you caviar, champagne, crab, even if I can't eat any of that. what I'm saying. So I can fly on Emirates or Qatar Air or some of those big, you know, and get the same luxury. Nah, man. Oh, that's crazy. That's crazy. You know, all them people on Instagrams be stunned, they be, you know, on the private guests and stuff. I had to reassess myself with y'all. I was like, damn, what type of life they living? Hey, something ain't right, Unk. I'm talking about everybody flying private. Everybody. I don't know what they doing, but, you know, it's cool. I mean, listen, you get where you got to get to. I'm going to get where I got to get to. I'm going to get from point A to point B on spirit. I'm good. You see I went to Raleigh, right? You saw what I was on, right? I was on spirit. I went 20-minute flight, comfortable. They gave me some peanuts. I had my little coat with no ice. I ain't got nobody impressed, man. Man, child, please. 20 and 30 grand just to fly. by myself because I want to convince, man, please. I like to talk to people. I like to talk. Whoever's sitting next to me, we finna talk. Yeah, but I hate it. I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I'm excited about Floyd coming back because I'm not. And I wish I... And hopefully if they shorted him his money, he gets his money back. but I hate that at 40 years old you haven't had to do anything. Just imagine, Ocho, if you had to try to go back and play football right now. Me? Yeah. I get a boy that worked. Everybody does saw. Hey, call it. Call it. No. Time out. Time out. Come on, son. Come on. Come here. Come on. Are you taking me out of the game? Yeah. Yeah. yeah we taking you out the game hey i'm telling you what hey at 48 right now shoot if floyd come out of retirement i'm coming out of retirement too hey mike brown katie troy blackburn how let your boy duke tobin zach taylor just picture this on me t higgins Jamar Chase Joe Burrow Chase Brown Huh I can't wait to hear him call my name Coming out of the tunnel Starting At wide receiver for the Cincinnati Bengals Chad Johnson then I come out And the smoke be going And the fan be chanting my name Oh Joe Oh, Cho Oh, Cho And they Oh, but don't let me score in 2026 Don't let me score no touchdown in 2026, boy Oh my God But they gonna suspend me for the week I hope Floyd makes enough money Against this Tyson thing That he won't have to do it Well, how about Hey, what you think about me and Floyd fighting? Like a little exhibition Like to give him a little tune-up Before he fight for real Yeah What you think about that? I'm all for it And I can wear my nightcap gear and all that. My nightcap trunks. You know? That'll be... You must have heard us. After 11 years, Netflix will present Floyd Mayweather versus Matty Pacquiao. Part 2. In Vegas, September 19th, 2026. The first fight between the duo in 2015 generated a record-breaking 4.6 million U.S. pay-per-view buys. And a live gate money with ticket sales was a staggering $72 million. Floyd has been retired for nine years, while Manny just fought several months ago against Mario Barrios. I told you. And Manny thought he won the fight. I told you. I told you. My only thing is, Ocho, Floyd has been able to hang his hat on that zero. If the zero is gone, and a lot of people, because here's the thing, you can only fool the people for so long. Yeah. He loses. Well, we already saw him loss. Because I think a lot of people, yeah, he was a phenomenal fighter. I didn't tune in to watch him lose. I tuned in to watch him beat somebody's ass. Right. But a lot of people did tune in, Ocho, because they wanted to see I saw him lose. Absolutely. And that's that's the great thing. That's the great thing about Mayweather during his career is building yourself up as the villain and being able to command such enormous paydays because the people, the majority of the people tuning in are tuning in to hope you fail. and they hope 50 times and all 50 times you debunked them right in their hopes in their wishes so again now far removed outside of your prime you're fighting manny pacquiao again what is everybody going to tune in to see whether you 48 58 68 finally is it the time when we finally get to see the pound for pound one of the greatest of all time do we finally get to see that asterisk where he gets the loss finally. Everybody going to tune in to see. Is that the sphere? Yeah. Ooh, that's going to be nice. Have you ever been to the sphere? Have you been there yet, Ocho? Nah, nah, nah. I walked on the outside, though. I walked on the outside. That was enough for me. It's crazy, Joe. Yeah, you went to the MMA UFC fight. Yeah. I went to the UFC fight there. Hey, well, what's up, man? We going to go to the fight? We can make it happen. Ocho, what's up? It's in September. I'm ready. You ain't got to ask me twice. I get my outfit together now. Man, I like that. I mean I would like to put down towards something You don get put it on layaway Joe Hey listen I ain going to lie to you I don't really know how I feel about it. Talk to me. Talk to me, Joe. I'm a huge fan of Floyd and Pacquiao. I don't think Floyd going to get in that ring unless he knows that he can be somewhat honking Ocho of what he's been. But, you know, when you ain't boxing a while, man, this ain't... You know, everything is repetition, reps. Like, it's different, man. It's different. What's up? Hey, Joe and Unc, I think we have to realize, we have to understand. And for those in the chat that are watching, now we know we talk about a Floyd Mayweather retiring, but we have to understand this is the same Floyd Mayweather that stays active even when he's not fighting. He's always in the gym. He's still always training. So even if Floyd Mayweather of old is still a shell of himself, even at 40 years old, a shell of himself Floyd Medweather is still better than most based on who he once was. Based on who he once was. Even if he's not the Floyd Medweather in his prime, and that's okay. Even if his spidey senses aren't the same as they used to be, he can still do one thing. He can still box. He can still fight. He can still protect himself. He still has defense. He might be a millisecond slower. But still, talk to me. A millisecond slower. Oh, yeah. It makes a difference. But also, you're fighting someone that Jess has experienced, that had just as much wear and tear as you do, too. Yeah. I think it kind of evens out. This ain't like no exhibition. This is a real fight. Oh, no. This is a real deal, baby. It's a real deal. Okay. Real deal. But the thing is, the Ocho, okay, he fights Pacquiao. Yes, sir. Then he fight what next? I mean, Floyd, he's going to weigh... I don't know. I mean, I'm sure Manny can make 147. Hell, Manny probably walk around with probably 137. Yeah. I wonder how much... You know Floyd, Floyd walk around weight is 150. So it ain't enough for him to drop three pounds. Three pounds, yep. What y'all think the payday going to be? Well, you see where they played Jake Paul and Mike Tyson. They played Jake Paul and Anthony Joshua. He might. He might clear 300. Damn. Yeah, he might clear 300. And you know who else is a good one too? Who is that? I don't know where he goes from after that fight. I would make one more. I just don't know what it would be. Obviously, you said you didn't like the names that I threw out there, obviously, for obvious reasons because of the weight and one being at the pinnacle and the top in his career and just defeating Canelo. but I'm talking about being able to grab the most and maximizing these last two shots in the ring. I'm just saying. Oh, you're talking about you on Florida fight, bud? Man, come on. I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know. Hey, Joe, I said it the other night, and everybody laughed at me. I said three names. Now, all of a sudden, two days later, one of those names is the ones he's fighting because I'm understanding the only way to maximize as much, if you're having financial problems, you know, and being able to recoup what you're suing for. Hell, he's suing Al Heyman for 30-40 and whatever company it might be. I don't know. Showtime, 340. Showtime, 340. Hell, he going to clear that 300 right now against Pacquiao. So if you want to go again and be able to get another cash grab, Canelo rematch. I'm just saying, even if there's a weight discrepancy. I mean, what do we do in that situation? I'm just throwing names out there. Me personally, Ocho, I don't think Canelo is interested in dropping no weight. Floyd can't come. Man, ain't no way in hell. Floyd ain't never weighed no 160. He only fought one fight. He fought De La Foria at 154, and he was under that weight. Yeah. Listen, I'm just – I know. I understand. I understand what you mean. I understand what you're saying. But I'm just saying, you know, based on the circumstance and situations that I'm assuming he may be in. That's all. That's all. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I hope it's not true. I got a question too. Yeah. Hey, now we talk about a fight in September at the spear, right? Now, this is good. This is nice. Now, I understand it's a professional fight. What y'all think about your boy being on the undercard? A spear is a round shape. That's what I said. The spear. No, the spear is what you throw. I said the spear. It's spelled spear. Yeah, it's spelled S-P-H-E-R-E-R-E. That's what I said. I said spear. Spear. No, see, you know, I talk country now, so it's hard for you to understand. Hey, but listen. Who you think about fighting? Huh? Who you think about fighting on the undercard? I don't know. Hey, Joe, it got to be somebody with a boxing back. I'm not talking about no celebs or nothing like that. Like, I need to get in there and go. Joe, what you think, Joe? just depending on who you fighting on joe i don't i don't like that answer joe i need i need a little more confidence from you joe okay what about i'll tell you what what about what about uh uh uh florida roy jones no no that's not gonna that's not that's not gonna generate what he's trying to do it's not gonna generate the the revenue he's trying to it got you listen you Remember when I talked about that, when I said those three names, I said it's going to have to be someone where he's going to have to take a chance. You got to take a chance because you need people to be tuned in to see, all right, he has a chance he can lose. Oh, you think he ain't got no chance to lose against Roy, huh? No, I don't. You know what? They kind of been having a little back and forth, ain't they? That's why I threw it out there. Okay, yeah, I see where you're going with this. I see where you're going with this. All right. Wow. I tell you what, Ocho, what about you boxing Emmanuel Ocho? No, I said a real fighter. Hey. Nah, nah, nah. I can't. Ocho, you been training like that? I ain't stopped yet. I ain't stopped yet, Joe. Oh, Lord have mercy. Hey, Ocho be laughing. He know I train every day. I do my soccer. I do my soccer in the mornings and I do boxing in the evening. And then when you do your Zumba, because you a Zumba instructor, when you do it- Yeah, that's on Wednesdays and Fridays, Joe. Oh, okay. Yeah, on South Beach. Anytime you die in here, Miami, you can come check my class out. Okay. Yeah, I do it right on Nikki Beach. Okay. What you brainstorming over there? What you think about, huh? What about Floyd and Ryan Garcia? Ooh. you like that one I think he'll probably I think Florida he'll take that in a heartbeat man listen if you and make 147 easy I'm not worried about him making the weight at Florida he never had no weight no that's not the problem that's not the problem at all damn who you I mean obviously he can't fight he can't fight Shakur he can't fight you know he can't fight somebody like that no I don't think he can fight Bud I don't think he can fight Bud me neither because Bud you know I heard Bud on the pod you know it's like well who you want me to fight who's out there for me to fight now I'm sure if Turkey say look here Bud we gonna put this thing together you and Floyd Bud's like how much a hundred okay what about what about what about if he fall boots I'm talking about I ain't talking about Floyd I'm talking about Bud yeah it ain't no money in that fight yeah he's not gonna take he's not gonna take the chance that's that's that's it ain't no boots ain't a big enough name see in order in order for you to generate a fight you gotta get casuals to watch it the hardcore people like Ocho gonna watch it Ocho gonna watch go watch two kangaroos fight because he like fighting. So, you discount Ocho. Ocho, you know, look, I think Ryan Garcia and Floyd make sense. I don't think there's no chance in hell that Conor could ever get back down to 150, 155. You too big right now. Yeah, God. Yeah. He's huge. I mean, knowing him, I mean, with his training background and, you know, background, I'm assuming he could. If the potential of Conor McGregor, Floyd too, would have happened, he could probably get down. He just has to lose all that damn muscle. Nah. It's hard. And, man, when you lose muscle, man, you remember what happened with Roy? Roy was never the same. Oh, yeah, yeah. When he went up to fight Ruiz, he beat Ruiz at 193. And he had to drop all that weight. He cut all muscle. He was never the same. He'll tell you. He was never the same after he beat Ruiz. Damn. But I definitely think that's a fight we should probably be in attendance for. Okay. Yeah, I went to. I went to. Are we going to the fight? What? I went to the one where he fought Ricky Haddon. Floyd fought Ricky Haddon. Yeah. Yeah. Boy, and he hit him into that turnbucker. That wasn't nothing but a check hook, Joe. And he timed it perfectly. The beautiful check hook timed it perfectly, too. Excuse me. Take that with you. Walked it right into it. I've been to a few. Man, they talk about Tank and Floyd. Tank got to get some issues resolved first. I mean, Tank might be on the shelf for a minute. He got to get some issues resolved, get everything behind him, and then he can think about fighting. Right now, he might be fighting for his freedom. Right. Right. I agree. So he need to get those issues resolved. He gets those issues resolved. He's plenty young enough because he's an exciting fighter. Yeah. You know, he got dynamite in his hands. He can end the fight. He can turn them. He can turn them, you know, he can make you short circuit. Yeah. Quick. Cut your lights out. Quick. Hey, but I think that makes the most sense to me. Floyd next two fights handle your business against Pacquiao and find a way to get the ball rolling McGregor too how many fights y'all think he gonna what if he just wanna do this I would say do three I do three max find a way to get to 53 and 0 find a way to get to 53 and 0 maximize the next three years maybe two yeah maybe three maybe two maybe two them three fights. I'm not who the third person would be, but the third person I fight would be the biggest chance I'd have to take where there's a huge chance I could lose. Well, if you fight Bud, it's going to happen. Huh? If you fight Bud, it's going to happen. Leave Bud alone. Hey, I'm just, hey, get the world, get the people they want to see. It'll be a big payday one in Ocho. It'll be bigger than the Pacquiao one and it'll be bigger than the next McGregor one, that third one. And then what you call it, I mean, because look, it's hard to overlap eras, but when you got a guy that's a three-division undisputed champ in the four-bed era, and that's what Bud is. Yeah. He's a three-division undisputed in the four-bed era. Listen to me. I'm telling you, Joe. based on the circumstance and the situation that we are assuming based on reports that Floyd might be in, he can get the most, almost topping what he's already made when he was fighting in his prime in a short amount of time. Pacquiao, Mayweather, and going a goddamn limb with Bud. I'm just saying. Well, he can only fight one time. He can only fight once this year because he's not fighting until September. Right, right. It's out of the question. He only did one fight in 26. I'm not saying to double it up back to back. I'm just saying those three in a matter of time that you see suitable. I think... You got to understand, Floyd don't take much punishment either. He don't take much punishment. He don't take much punishment. We don't know if he going to take those reflexes and slow down. So it's going to be interesting to see, but I'm going to be there to see it. We'll be there to see it. Right. I'm going to be fighting. Don't forget that, huh? Oh, man. Hey, Joe. What's up, bro? It's going to be good, man. I'm telling you. I'm representing Nightcap to the fullest, bro. Hey, Joe, I don't play. I know I do a lot of talking, Joe, but you know in that ring, boy, I'm nice, boy. I've been training the past six years now. Okay. I got you. I talk a good one, but so these hands talk one, too. I'm going to follow your lead on this one. I'm going to follow your lead. Yeah, that's all I ask for you, Joe. That's all I ask. I got you. I'm going to back you up, bro. I wonder who's going to be on the undercard, though. I just told you, huh? I'm going to call Leonard I'm going to call We're going to have to hit Broner or something. Maybe you fight Adrian Broner Ooh that That's a good one Yeah That's a good A Now that's an exciting That's exciting. Hey Joe you laughing I ain't going to lie I was getting cooked out there Hey that'd be a good one though Yeah. Ocho, you get out there with Brona? Boy, you tell me. Nah, not me, man. Hell nah. What you mean? I thought you said you wanted to fight a boxer. Come on, man. Not that boxer. Brona too small, man. Oh, he too small for you? Hey, Brona, kill me, man, if he wanted to, for real. Joe, that's a real boxer, boy. I thought that what you said. Nah, man. Joe, don't give me nobody that experience, Joe. Hey, hey, all jokes aside, you know, A lot of people make jokes and they laugh when boxers get knocked out and they fight. I don't want to do people understand that these dudes will hurt you if they want to, especially when you're in their environment, when you're not used to punches coming. You never see it. At all. It's different. I don't know how many people in the chat have actually been to a fight and been close enough. I mean when the guy head snap when the guy head snap he already it's like a snake he already in a recall and you just about seeing the man head snap back he didn't like the round snake he like oh he wrapped man he done bit you man they put them punches together so quick you know man that's how you get knocked out cause you don't see it you don't and them three minutes be long as I don't know what long as hell but But we now know Floyd has a fight on the calendar, and it's going to be September 19th of this year. He's taking on Manny Pacquiao on Netflix. Netflix, y'all know what we do. There we go. There we go. Hey, Netflix, make sure you have your boy on now. Make sure you come holler at the king now. Oh Joe Floyd Mayweather Jr is now scheduled to take on Greek kickboxer Mike Zambidis in another exhibition in June in Athens Greece Zambidis is an 18-time world champion and retired with a record of 154-24. He hasn't taken part in an official fight since June of 2015. Yeah, talk to me. Are you concerned that Floyd is potentially risking long-term help just to make a quick payday schedule? Three fights in one year. The last time, before you go, Joe, the last time, if I'm not mistaken, that he fought three times in one year was 2005, and he was 28 years of age. I say, no, I'm not worried about it. Joe, I understand, obviously, your spidey senses. Some things are gone. You're not the same as you was, especially back in 2005, the last time you fought three times. but obviously you have to look at his opponents that he's picking. He's picking opponents that he knows he's going to be able to win. He's picking opponents that he knows he's better than, even with his lack of not being in the ring, but someone that stays active. He just hasn't fought. And doing these exhibitions, he's going to be okay. He's going to be able to protect himself and be able to hit them at will and being able to protect himself when trying to be hit. Obviously, I forgot the record you said, the guy. What was his name? 157. Yeah, I mean, obviously, he's probably great in his craft and what he did, but he stands no chance in a boxing ring with Floyd Mather. Whether he's young, whether he's old, whether he's in his prime, hell, he could probably beat dude with a jab hand all night long if he wanted to. So, again, for one, I think that's a tune-up. The Greek guy, that's a tune-up before he gets to Manny Pacquiao because I think that guy is going to probably try to give him a little show, give him a little challenge. But that's all that is. That's all it comes down to because he knows once you get to Manny Pacquiao, all bets are off. All bets are off. I agree. That's a real live fight. Ain't no exhibition. He's not taking it easy on you. He going to go. So the Mike Tyson, listen, give me something. Let me refill my pockets real quick. Boom. The tune-up fight against the Greek guy, I don't know how to say his name the proper way, is a tune-up for Manny Pacquiao. And then come September in the sphere, we going all out. Absolutely. Trying to keep fine-tuned. Fine-tuned till you get the pack out. Get that ring rush out of you. I just hate it. I hate it, guys. What you hate? Yeah, because I wish Floyd didn't have to do this. He made enough money he shouldn't have to do this. And maybe he just wants to come back. Maybe there's an itch that these just scratched. Maybe the competitive juices of Floyd again. But when you're talking about Ocho, let's just say for the sake of argument, these are exhibitions. Floyd hadn't fought three fights in one year. since 2005. That's over two decades ago. It doesn't, even if it doesn't look good because sometimes the mention of, like, Florida's broke. I don't know if Florida's broke. Florida's broke compared to other people's broke is different. It's not the same. It's different. Now, you know, you hear things that, you know, tax, he owes this person. I saw Logan Paul was talking about that he owes him and some Greek company is suing, some Dubai company is suing him for $10 million. I don't know if there's any truth to that, Chad. I really, really don't. I don't know Floyd's finances, and I don't know anybody that knows Floyd's finances. But it's just, man, I just hate this. I hate it, you know, when you heard the story of Joe Lewis, how Joe Lewis had to come out and had to fight much longer than he should have, Ocho. I hate that for guys when they have to do that because they take such a beating when they're in their prime, when they're young. Boxing, even when the hair gear and you sparring, Ocho, you still get hit upside your head. It's just like when you play football. Yeah, you got a helmet on, but them damn legs still hurt. And also, Uncle Joe, when you think about it too, you have to think about it. We talk about Floyd. We talk about Floyd, one that's over his career in 50 fights, hasn't taken much punishment. He hasn't gotten it. I mean, obviously you do get hit, but he's minimized those hits in that wear and tear over the years because he's so great at defense. He's so great at defense. So he's one of the few that can come out. And that's why the first thing I said, that he's one of the few that can come out of retirement, even at his age, and still protect himself. It's like, hell, I ain't rode a bike in 15 years, Joe, but if I had to get back on there, I can get on there and know what to do. Especially when you talk about one of the best, if not the best of all time. Now, depending on who you ask when it comes to boxing, obviously, you know, you throw other names in the pot, but I think he's going to be alright. He's going to be able to do what he needs to do in the ring. He knows how to protect himself. He knows how to carry a fight, which I think he's going to do for the young bull out there and the Greek guy they ain't going to face. He's going to carry him when he does. Hey. My bad. No, no, you're good. You're good. But why is he fighting Mike Tyson, though? Like, the last time I seen Tyson fight, he wasn't throwing no punches. I don't think he's going to throw no punches this fight either. That's what I'm saying. So I know it was somebody. And I'm not saying, you know, obviously I'm a Tyson fan, But, I mean, damn, Tyson's 60. Where old is Tyson? At least 60. A couple of years. He got to be at least. Tyson got to be at least two to three years older than me, and I'm about to be 58. So he's 60, 61. How about Tyson? I don't want to see the biting the gloves and all that, Ocho. Yeah, because he didn't want to hit him and mess up that money. Huh? He didn't want to hit him and mess up that money. He didn't want to hit Tyson. No, Jake didn't want to hit him. I mean, Tyson ain't want to hit him. He'll be 60 years old June 30th. Tyson will be 60 June 30th. He's born in 66. I was born in 68. You look at that Jake Paul-Tyson fight, like those first two rounds, and if you know Tyson, if you watch Tyson fight over the years, when he comes out, he's straight to action. He's straight to action. That was a young man. I mean, even if you're not young, if that's the way you fight, that's the way you fight. you don't change the way you fight over the years. He's a fighter. He sits in the pocket and we going to work. So how you think he going to fight Floyd? Floyd ain't going to sit there and let him. That's not Floyd. I don't know what's going to happen. I don't know what's going to happen with that. Because we saw Mike Tyson and Roy. You know? And they also didn't want to hit each other. So I'm not sure. But Roy already said, I said, look, he is not going to hit it. He's not going to hit my mama's child with that left hand. That ain't happening. That hook? That ain't happening. Nope. He's not going to hit my mama's son with that left hand. So Roy was honest about, you know, like, look, he still got power in that hand. And he still has power. Oh, Joe. We watched him, Joe. and you watched him when they were showing the lead up to the fight. Man, you see Tyson hitting that bag. Man. Man, you see how Tyson moving. Yeah, yeah. Ain't none change, and that's how you know. If you see him hit the bag, you see him hit the mitts, and all of a sudden you get in the ring and you look completely different or you're trying to figure out why you're not letting go. Why are you gunshot? And he was letting him go when he was sparring, when he was hitting him. He was letting his hands go, Ocho. You know, the obvious. I just look we gotta talk about it so we gonna have to watch so we can you know provide some some analysis but it's just I just I just wish I just wish at 50 years of age I don't you know I don't I don't I mean could you imagine if you could if you had to I mean I love I love I love football but ain't no way I was after retiring at 35 I was coming back at 40 right right no but hey I came back here for it you know what Joe Ocho if people didn't want to see it it wouldn't happen somebody gonna watch it Netflix got how many how many countries are they in 200 countries probably got 3 400 million subs subscribers Netflix ain't playing is it they definitely gonna watch and half the people watching to see them lose yeah yeah I just I don't know but I mean he wants he wants to do it I don't know I don't know if it's just these three fights and that's it Ocho or he's gonna have more fights in 27 hey but it just goes to show you what the current state of boxing is is that people will watch this and they got real fighters that just goes to show you what the current state of boxing is Ocho I mean we got good fighters they got hey there are fights to be made like I said hopefully Javante Davis get his situation resolved but you got the Davis kid Keyshawn Davis and you got Shakur and you got Ryan Garcia you got you got Devin Haney you got guys you got Lomo I think I think Lomo retired yeah Lomo retired Lomo Tiofimo yeah yeah I know one of them retired, but there are fights to be made. There are fights to be made. Yeah, Lomachenko retired. I mean, it's so many. I mean, just the problem is it's too much dead time, huh? It's too much dead time. So while, you know, fights haven't been resolved yet or, you know, too many layers between fighters wanting to fight, I mean, so something like this, I mean, it's going to have people watching. Yeah. Yeah. People going to tune in for sure. I guess we have to go watch a couple of rounds, Ocho. Yeah. I'm going to watch you come around, but man, it's like- Hey, we going to the fight. We going to the fight in Vegas in September? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. We going to walk in there, but we going to be clean too, boy. Hey, we got a good- Yeah, we going to be clean, boy. I can't wait, boy. You going to suit it and boot it? Oh, Joe, I'm going to be clean, Joe. I might be the cleanest one in the house, Joe. I'm going to put these pants on right here, Joe. alright now yeah what you doing too much yeah ain't nobody gonna be ain't nobody gonna be at that fight in September and he got damn leopard pants but me boy yeah cause you probably won't be able to take them off they gonna be so funky oh no I take these to the cleaners every three days no no you don't yeah do cleaners right across the street that's okay okay I ain't gonna win I'm gonna win some boots. I'm gonna wear some boots. I don't know what I'm gonna wear. Joe, what you wearing, Joe? I'll piece something together. I'm gonna probably put on one of these little fly suits I got over here, man. I got, you know what I mean? A suit? A suit suit? Yeah, I'm coming with a suit, man. I'm coming. I'm coming. Yeah. To the fight? Yeah. Yeah. You ain't fighting? Huh? He like, he walking the intro, Joe. I mean, Ocho. Hey, Joe, what you putting on? Yeah, man, I'm coming in. I ain't playing no game, man. You talking about like a suit like you wear to church? Yeah, I'm coming. I'm going to be clean, old Joe. Joe, you ain't going to be comfortable. It's a boxing fight. Yes, I am. Yes, I am. Yes, I am. You'll see. You'll see. Check me out. Okay, okay. I ain't going to wear no suit because after we had this rematch and I put puss in him, he going to be too sore. His ass going to be sore. So I'm going to be putting puss in him when we get him back on that bowling. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. You got to chill. Nah, nah, Joe. Because you be right. All you do is be talking to me. The people. The people gave me this title. I didn't ask for no title. I didn't ask for nothing, Joe. Man, man. This is what the people wanted. So I have to give the people what they want. Okay. You want to give the people what they want all the time. I'm ready. Yeah. But like I said, hopefully everything gets resolved and Floyd goes on about his life and everybody gets to live happily every afternoon. I mean, obviously, some things need to change. Some things need to change because you won't be able to keep coming back out to be able to do these exhibitions as you get a little bit more. Well, he better look good. That's what I'm going to say. That boy's going to put on the show. Y'all got Floyd. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, listen, Floyd ain't going to look like Floyd even despite his age because he's always active, Joe. He's always active. So, I mean, I want to see it. I'm excited because I know what he's going to look like despite how long he's been off, despite having the ring rust. And that's why he's doing the tune-ups before he get to Pacquiao. Well, I guess I mean, I don't know. I guess I have to wear my Louis pants again the third time. Okay. Okay. I like them things. I like them things. No, I ain't wearing them pants, man. I ain't wearing them pants. I'll get something. I have something. I have something. I'll pull something. I'll get a little something. I'll be a little clean. Yeah, I'm going to be clean, though, boy. I'm going to be clean, boy. I'll step back. Yeah, Joe. What you planning on wearing, Ojo? I'm going to wear some cowboy boots, Joe. Yeah, cowboy boots, nice little jeans. I forgot what they call them in Houston. They call them the jeans. They sit right over. They sit right over. Like the jeans kind of fit like slim a little bit, but it flare out perfectly right at the bottom to go right over the boot. Okay, I got you. Boot cut. Yeah, okay, boot cut. But it's a certain name to it, Joe. I mean, I forgot what it's called. Flare legs? Bell bottoms? No, no, no. Not bell bottoms, not flare pants. It's a specific name, a specific gene. I forgot what it's called exactly. And it just looks... What'd you say? It's a what kind of name? A specific. Specific. Specific? Spice. Spice. Specific. I thought you said... No, it's the way... I said, that's an ocean. I talk fast. I talk fast. I know you do. That's why I get you to slow down. Yeah. But that's the thing. Now everybody's wearing their kind of little slimmer fit, and then it gets, you know, kind of flare at the bottom. Oh, hey, Unk, somebody in the chat, they must be from Houston. It's called Stack. They call Stack Jeans. And just everybody I saw in Houston, you know, it's rodeo. It's rodeo weekend or rodeo week, whatever. I'm like, well, how come everybody's shit, it looked right. It looked perfection. Like somebody tailored everybody's jeans to fit perfectly over their boots. I mean, everybody was clean, Unk. they stole that name because we used to call stacks platform shoes. For real? That's what stacks were called. Yes. Back in the 70s, when guys used to wear those flare-on pants, they had on what we call stacks, which was platform shoes. Okay. That's what stacks were called when I was a kid. I ain't know nobody, like I said, we call those bell bottoms. Then they call them boot cut. But, yeah, that's what stacks were called when I was a kid. Anybody that's old enough to remember the 70s in the eight and set 70s all the way through 70s and the early 80s do anybody know what Stacks platform shoes is that what y'all called them? Hmm They said jeans in Houston are called strangers Yeah, it is like yeah, Stacks that's what we call them on Joe Yeah I had some I went to I had a Halloween party and I had some you know I went to Wait, you had some platforms on them? Yeah, I went, I bought some. How high the hill was? How high was the hill? Probably like this. Okay, okay, I see you. You know you boy was stepping. I had me an afro wig on, with a jean outfit, with a polyester. Yeah. Yeah, man. Hey, did you know how to do the walk? Remember the episode of Martin? Remember the fifth episode? Hey, I was strutting. You know, I was strutting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pretty Tony, man. Pretty Tony.