Dewain Whitmore Jr.

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Tap in and grab your tickets now at blackeffect.com slash podcast festival. Tank. Jake Valentine. We are the authorities on all things R&B. Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Tank. I'm Jake Valentine. And this is the R&B Money Podcast. Come on. It's the authority on all things R&B. Sometimes, you know, you're writing is so motherfucking good. Talk about it. I don't know what genre you're in. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter where I write. When you get that phone call, you go write them hits. Can I pull up on you in Nashville and give you this hit? Yeah. Can I pull up on you in Los Angeles and give you this hit? Korea. Can I pull up on you in Korea? You know how the OGs used to say when they came back? Bigger just came back. I did a call in Korea. Hold up. Can you deliver on demand? Yeah. Yeah. Put the sauce. That's what he do. He's sitting right here. Yeah. A foot away. He's him. The way with more. Junior. Yeah. Junior. Because there's a senior. There is a senior. There is a senior. Absolutely. Is senior nicer than you? Oh, listen. Senior is nice. He's nice. Senior can do some things Junior can't do. I'm trying to tell you. Yeah. Man, I appreciate y'all having me, man. Oh, come on, man. It's my honor, man. Yeah. It's been a pleasure to be here with you. Long time coming. With two of the greatest they ever do. And I appreciate it. I want to start off with beef. I want to start there first. Because I think that's how we kicked this off. OK. You've written some very, very incredible, incredible records. Incredible, Jay. Yes. How long have we known? Dwayne? I don't know. I don't even know. At least a dime. At least a dime. At least a dime. Have you ever gotten a Dwayne pack? Have you ever gotten a nigga pull up? I got some. He's been so busy at the top of the charts. With the OK, not A-list. Fine. Put a B-minus. Hey, slow down. Huh? Cush it out. I'm just. Listen, I just got to say, I was honored to be on the TGT. The first TGT album. Between the lines. Between the lines. You said the first TGT. You don't even want a TGT album. Oh, well then listen. The one, the only. They never got the two. You tried, yeah? They tried. You said the first. We got the hell they did. They did. We got the hell to demos. Well, that's even more of an honor. The one and only TGT album. Absolutely. Between the lines. What an honor it was. I love it. They love them niggas. See? That's why we didn't get the album too. This is. David Ruffin. And neither the two takes. These. You see my chat. These. These. These. These. These. Hey, somebody said that in the comments. I was looking at the comments. Oh, God. He ain't that good. He just sang with his chest out. It was on somebody else thing too. I got tagged though. I said, oh, they got that. That's crazy. Hey, listen, when I say them women attack, that nigga that said that. I sang with his chest out. And that's fine. I'll take that. He ain't that good. Whatever you here to see. Hey, listen. Huh? I got, I got an off. Listen, I don't, I don't have the talented moment where I'm like, please respect my eye. No. If you want to tip me, tip me. I'm with it. All tips welcome. All of it. I don't care why you there. Just get the ticket. Hey, I'll take care of the rest. That's crazy. Oh my God. Listen, listen, you already know, man. That's a phone call away. Anything you need. I am issuing. That's what I'm here for. Listen and outer. Amber alert. Listen. Right now. Certain people. Certain people. It's not even a ask. As you. It's actually certain person. Certain person. Because only Chris gets your records. Everybody else has to wait. Hey. Look. He thought about his mother. Shit. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. It's like, that within itself is a blessing, a very high level blessing that your frequency connects in a way to what he does. Like you guys' connection musically, it just makes fucking sense, bro. He was the first artist to give me a shot. First one, he didn't care about, what did he do, what is he written? What's his discography, let me know. Yeah, he was jammed. It was never nothing. And I can say that he's been, that's not even just with me, I've heard that with other people. With everybody. That's how he, that's just how he is. If you got records. Thanks. Chris Brown will give you that. Which means it's about the music. He'll give you an opportunity. It's 100% about the music. It's about the music. Because he's a rare artist that believes that I got the sauce. Yeah, thanks. I just need, I just need the saucy people. The saucy people. I don't need the name. Thanks. I don't need, where's the sauce at? Big facts. Big facts. It's a nigga sitting there first, but I just put a console. That's got, ooh, bottles of the sauce. Bottles of it, on tap. Bottles of it. No, nobody know nothing about nothing where you're at. Absolutely right. And you don't find a lot of people that do, that, where it's just about the music. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? They checking to see, well, who's he working with? Especially at the highest level. Especially at the highest level. Absolutely. Since we talking about sauce, let's take it back. You say sauce, that's a great thing. You know what I mean? Let's take it back, because off camera, we was arguing about it. We was arguing about it. You know? It was like debate. It was like debate. I like debate, like debate. You from a place that got plenty of sauce. It's called Kansas City, Missouri. Yes indeed, Missouri. I like how you do Missouri. And then listen, because I know it's two sides of Kansas, and I rock with both sides. I know you do. I rock, but I know that you from the Missouri side. I'm definitely from the Missouri side. But there are some good Kansas side people. You know what I'm saying? Really good, really. I'm cool with a lot of them. I'm saying it like it's a good thing. No, y'all like it. But for me, y'all like the Bay Area. From both sides, we're good. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Good people, I'm good. That's what y'all. You mean the prize amount of people that don't know the difference? I mean, yo, so you from Kansas, right? No, I'm from Kansas City, Missouri. All right, so like we're Dorothy, sir. We didn't pay attention in any of the class. N guarantee. They can say through geography. None of the geography at all. But it's ultimately like if San Francisco and Oakland were two different states. Right, right. Facts. Facts. Which that's tough, bro. Facts, facts, facts. Because it's literally just a bridge that separates. That's true. Right? If you go to the Bay, it's a bridge that separates. But when you get to talking about, Nick, a door state, bro. But when you get to talking about Dorothy and all that, listen, that's hours away from where I grew up. I get it. But everybody doesn't know that. I understand. I understand. But I'm not from where Dorothy is from. I'm from the home of the barbecue. Just settle that. You say, y'all call it the home of the barbecue. Home, home. Like y'all the home of the barbecue. Like ain't nowhere else making fire barbecue. Fire? You said gates, right? Fire. Fire. Subjective gates is definitely, there's another one I'm putting on to Jack Stack. If you haven't had Jack Stack, get that in your life. Jack Stack's mission. The home of the barbecue. Absolutely. Hama. Ain't no other state in America. Oh, is this another? Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's a state in the, in... Oh, yeah. There are some representatives. For sure. St. Louis is still Missouri. So that's just under the act. They got barbecue? Wow. They might. I don't have no barbecue. I know they got soul food. You can get a certain rib. That's a... Sweetie pies. Go to the jam. Okay. You out here taking shots. Here's what I'm saying. Memphis don't got... No, Memphis. Yeah. Memphis is y'all Memphis. Memphis got barbecue. I'm trying to get you attacked in the comments. I think you're going to be okay. It's y'all Memphis. Okay. It's us and Memphis. Texas might... Texas but she'll got barbecue. No, no, facts. Facts. Texas got barbecue. If we're talking about the best though, are we talking about the best or are we talking about good barbecue? I think, I think if we're talking about good, like good barbecue. Okay, yeah, no. For sure. I don't think, I don't think a chain can compete with, with that. Okay. With that elder, with that elder gentleman. I understand. Standing in front of that, that, that, that all barrel. That's very good. Listen. That's very good. Listen. My great grandfather used to be dipping his snuff and making barbecue and talking and spinning at the same time. Oh man. He put the love into it though. Love for it. R-rated. He's my hated jaw. R-rated. R-rated. R-rated. R-rated. That's very good. I don't know how bad it is. Okay, pick that up. Pick that up. Pick that up. Pick that up. Pick that up. Sick of you long-time. Sick of you long-time. Too much motherfucking. No. No. Hey, because now there's a, there's a grown man. Absolutely. I understand. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's sick of you. Sick of you. Fuck. Sick of you. Fuck. Yo, that's kind of. Hey man. Hey, but you're all right. When there's love in it though, like, and what you doing? You know what I'm saying? It's different. Because a lot of people take pride in it, especially from, like, from your Memphises and your Texas and, and in case he's like, they take pride. For sure. You know what I'm saying? I think when life is like connected to something too, it's like, when it's like, when it's that, when it's that guy and his family and, and every, you know, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, day out there and the kids is out there with him and we need this. So I ain't got no, I don't have no choice. But to make sure this is rocking off the chin every time you pull up. Absolutely. Absolutely. That's real. Okay. So speaking of cooking, okay. Okay. What's the muse? When did you start cooking? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to get into the essence of. Making a segway is amazing. I got it. We just started getting your cooking on when people was like, hey, that young, get that young man an apron. And I walk. He is acting up in here. That's crazy. Tell me when. Give me a when. Five years old. Love that. Young age and Casey, like most people from the church, Christ temple Pentecostal, that path is crazy. Christ temple Pentecostal church. What is that like? Cause you, you messed up. Was that almost like. Well, they changed the name. Across the color lines and the gang. That's crazy. You know, I'd be asking the kids. Church is wild. They did change the name now. It's just praise practices. It's praise practices. Boom. So. How you celebrate? Okay. All right. How you celebrate? Lame in terms. Lame in terms. Christ temple Pentecostal church. And we're part of the PAW. The nomination. And yes. And we're part of the PAW. The nomination. And yes. And we're part of the PAW. And we're part of the PAW. And we're part of the PAW. And we're part of the PAW. The nomination. And yes. That's praise and worship. Oh, listen. It's great. That's what PAW is. That's praise and worship. Dang, that's crazy. PAW. I'm just asking. You know what? I don't know. I need to check the history on the name of PAW. It might be. Look at me learning you some. That's great. I thought it was praise. He's confused too. I got you church. He's confused. Oh, no, no, no. Pentecostal assemblies. Oh, no. HIPPING AND WIGGLING. Hey. Hey. Hey. Praise and worship. Isn't amazing. Dang. Come on. Hey. That's a church. I'm gonna start. I'm sorry. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Phenicolse, man. Mom's Director of the choir and she used to make me get up there and say man and I Not I hated it. I used to have stage fright when I was little. Mmm. somehow I learned how to Tap out and just I don't know how like anytime I would get up and sing like I Be able to tap out but the nerves one thing I should be like oh my god And so that's why I take my hat off to I'm leaving on right now But I take my hat off to to artists there like it's nothing like you can get like y'all just get up and just like it's nothing like No nerves no unless y'all like me and just able to just it's a light switch and just turn it off But that was how it was man. I just I would be able to turn it off and then my dad He played the organ It's funny cuz he'll call me Now I've been getting ready going sessions if you like who you work with today. I work with such such they play the organ dad Not in every session, you know, they're not playing organs in the sessions But you know depending on what the vibe is for today, you know, I'm saying he looks for the organ But he played the organ he used to try to get me to play the organ. I Was sit up there. I got a twin brother both of us He tried to get us up. I had me sit right next to him on the organ I just would be like dog. I'd rather be doing with everybody else. It's one right now. Hmm. And then I took Suzuki piano training. What is that? breath one of the most intense Piano trainings not necessarily just piano. I believe violin like there's different forms of it, but It's a Japanese style of piano and I absolutely hated it. I used out to practice every single day I say I grew up in the house where you couldn't watch TV through the week So it was like, oh, you want to watch Martin tape it you watch it Saturday. You know what I mean? It was yeah, I had no TV all week, but I have it. I didn't have a TV in my room. It's that real Pentecost You know what though wait, what's crazy? I Don't even know that it had anything to do with church for my dad If it was my mommy probably it feels my dad is it was probably like not me you need to practice Hmm, and that's all that's all it is do your homework. He He was big on studies big on on on practicing and so It was an hour of that And I had people come over friends come over cousins come over no matter what the day is you do your hour Not yet. All right, go do your hour and I sit do the hour and they playing my Nintendo They doing anything you about done yet. You know what your lesson? No, I'm not yet, man So they they have an auto fun, bro, but I hated it. I absolutely hate it But I'm excited 2020. I wish I would have stuck with it though You know what I mean if I knew I was gonna be doing music when I got older, but um, yeah It was just super intense. Was he but do you feel like he was preparing you for this? Not for this. No, cuz I don't even this is different. I think it had more to do with discipline Yeah, well, he's big on discipline. You know what I mean? He was big on that and and and you know if you're gonna do something Do it? Yeah, 100% you know what I mean? I mean like I tell you what Because you know we hated like when you turn 15 If you still don't like it you can stop It might have been 12 What are we talking about the day I turn it that was like, yes, I'm done. I'm done I'm done. So is your brother Suzuki now to never oh At the time. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, bro both of us. I do our then he do our Yeah, you know, all right. He's your turn. See then he but he grew up cuz his mom played So he grew up under the same principle. Let's say his mom just it wasn't no Suzuki I like that his mom played in the church. Yeah, and she was blind. Oh, wow Mm-hmm and an amazing piano player, but he He grew up under the same under that same principle under the same principles and and practices and so yeah, he just You know paid it forward. You know what I mean to us But my brother and I both and I yeah, like I absolutely hated it but again to today. I wish I Would have stuck with it. I you know, you don't really Find sessions where you like unless you're a session musician, you know to me if you're a producer You're not reading music like that. You know, I mean you play by ear now. I wish I would have like Learned how to play by ear that you know that I think goes a long way in what we do, you know Whether it's piano guitar Whatever it is. Wait, did you do did you try or were you self-taught or did you try? I tried But what's they put me in that middle C? But I'm cool. You had the but you had the I Had the ear early so I thought what made you want to do it though. You know I'm saying Like what made you say boom? I'm about to learn this sounds I heard something that As a key I couldn't I couldn't shake like I heard I heard Quartz and in notes together And and I and it would it would do something to my soul as a kid as a five-year-old kid I got a and I got to learn it so that I can feel that feeling all the time. That's amazing And that was that was that was my chase. Wow, the music was like porno for you You hot today you cook in the day Watch out Getting warm It was like a it was like a feeling on you know always tell people when I heard of Charlie Brown's Christmas It was a day. It was I will never forget it to this day I will watch a Charlie Brown's Christmas today when they play Christmas Charlie Brown Christmas take on the radio turn No, that's crazy. I need it Wow Just different Wow, and I and I and I chased it until until it sounded like what I heard Wow Added it many fingers. I could add add and I just sit at my grandma my grandmother's piano Just yeah, I wish I had that all day all night. I wish I had that I wonder if I didn't have it because I was forced to do it, you know Well, this force is tougher You know what I mean, but do you feel like cuz I come from the force, right? Do you feel like it was the same? You know what I'm saying? I don't want to do it. No, it's so funny I think that's why he and I have such good chemistry because we come from two different sides Wow of Yeah music. Yep of coming into music. Yeah, you know, I mean like ultimately my dad even though he was street guy He was so engulfed in loving music that he was like My kids have to do music Wow. This is the way out. This is all of these things So even you know, we go back and forth and we laugh a lot about I'm like, bro, you're a music nerd, right? And I and it's funny because I almost ran away from being a music nerd. Okay, cuz he'd be like okay Well, nigga, you know this you know that I'm like, no, I don't It's because of like you saying mm-hmm being forced to practice. Yeah, dude this instead of discovering it like his is pure discovery Yeah, you know, he's just pure discovery. So it's only the joy of it. Yeah, I I'm looking at the whole block outside Yeah, and my family can't go outside And all he's doing is doing this Wait, can wait I'm right to go outside. Absolutely. I couldn't wait man My bike's never caught flat Cuz my tires were being used they said oh we can we can borrow J's bike Yeah, you know many bikes in my house got flats right now bro cuz kids won't get on them I Hey there, this is Josh from stuff You should know with a message that could change your life the stuff You should know think spring podcast playlist is available now Whether spring has sprung in your neck of the woods yet or not the stuff you should know think spring playlist Will make you want to get your overalls on get outside and get your hands in the dirt You can get the stuff you should know think spring playlist on the I heart radio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts I'm cool off this I was done with it I was done with piano were you done with anything pertaining to music at this point where you're writing at that time? So I so I was in a I was in a group come on group but not come on group. What's the name of the group? No, shoot. I'm on come on bro. You got you have to you can't just say I'm on this part of the army money pack All right, it was a church group. It was a gospel group. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. A to J a the number two J addicted to Addicted to Jesus listen those the name of the group ah See the new way they introduce you when y'all ate a J coming up. It's not a lot cooler. We got addicted Jesus I am from the church That right there you know with the boo didn't exist Did they say addicted? What they Jesus doing Hey, I tell you what Jesus sir. Hey, I tell you what nice though listen. No, y'all. Oh my god How many guys in the group five me five got me my twin brother my cousin Titus Wait, I guess it Yes Yes, I did not know that all right. This will get into this Titus is how I got started writing me writing song. Oh, this is great. Okay all these years. I've known you and know him I didn't have no idea Titus is how I got into writing songs at 14 So we're in this group. We're in a dick. Oh, you forgot you got shot other guys. You got shot all you Oh, yeah, I'm tripping shout all you guys. Uh, it was me my brother my twin brother Jermaine my cousin Titus my cousin Caleb and My cousin Deontay so five guys. Okay, so all family to dog all family and start there was a there was another guy in there Justin when we when we started then he he was a little older than us Then he went off to school. I love that you your brother got the twin names to Jermaine Duane Yeah, he's gonna I'm gonna say middle name to it's crazy. Same thing on them, but that was that was what so growing up We're singing and I mean, I think we might have been 11 when we started 10 11 somewhere around there and so We're singing a lot of like Of course, like, you know, we were singing men of standard, of course Yeah, well, I trust in him was our go-to. Mm-hmm. So we were seeing some men of standard commission, of course, but Around 14 I find out that my cousin that Titus With some of the other songs that we were singing I find it and I'm thinking at the time that these are just Songs that are out and I find out he these right. He wrote. Yeah like And then he showed me we were either 13 or 14 he showed me like How to write songs and that was how that was how it started and then we just I stuck with him those next couple years like we would go through the Middle school high school and then writing songs for the group and that was how we got into I'm telling you nice though like nice Real nice. So we're y'all performing. I just going like the church to church Old city. Yeah, like any like churches festivals around the city like they were calling us to come sing at all of those But I even before the group though like as a kid. So my dad played as I mentioned and he We liked his little father son do a man We ended up I'd be singing that stuff throughout the city like different functions they be having different fun razors it be him on the kids me singing and Yeah, that was that was really where like that wasn't taking Jermaine with you Jermaine wasn't that none of the latest performances at all No, he was wherever he was Yeah, he'd have no part of that. You may like I'm cool Jermaine Jermaine wanted to I Think as we got older Jermaine got the book for music. Okay, but yeah, it never it never stuck with him. You know to me He was also like More in like the fine that he ended up going and getting his degree in like finance and economics and that kind of thing Whatever, but he's Jermaine sings that's still to this day singing that church every Sunday praise and worship To this day right now next Sunday. He's up on the stage guarantee And so it would be my dad and I going around Seeing that all these I don't know how he's booking these these gigs like all around the city and I would yeah, we would go out there and show up and sing a couple a couple of numbers and Do our thing but I was again like I never Growing up. I never was like Comfortable like just had like like super comfortable like singing in front of people like that, but For some reason I was able to always flip it off and do what I need to do and I actually carried over into Getting into the industry I would be able to turn off whatever the suit that nervous switches um and not and not making the moment bigger than um Then what I was there to do, you know what I mean like I somehow was able to always do that So it carried over all the way through but uh, but I've never just been like You know like I love like me jump out in front, you know what I'm saying Which I feel like to be an artist and to to be a successful artist I think you have to enjoy what you do because there's so much other stuff that comes along with yeah We're being an artist. Yeah that At the end of the day, it has you have to love what you do. It's got to come back down to the love I love what you know what? I hate this that that nap, but I love getting up and singing and performing and doing what I what I do I think it all comes back. That's why I only sing sometimes bro But because I for me I don't get the same Um, I don't get the same joy out of it that tanked up. Yeah, I understand right and I see it up close with him because you know We've we've taken this ride together to where We'll be dealing with all the foolishness to business all this stuff and I can see him and I'm like, all right It's it's weighing on him a little bit. Mm-hmm. And then as soon as He's walking toward the stage. Yeah He don't care about nothing that we've dealt with the switch is flip and I'm still like I want killie And you want me to come out of the sense Hey, that's crazy you're trying to tie Wait, let me ask you this though Do you feel like that's something you're born with though? What's that that what he was just saying about you The ability like the I don't know if it's the love for it or whatever. I think you're born with it I don't I don't think it's something you can teach. I don't think it's something you can learn I think it's something that's innately just in you. I think you're born with it. I think it just It just depends on How you how that space is defined for you like for me That space is Untouchable right for anything Or anybody. Mm. That is my Space was it always that way No, did you always look at it that way? No, no, I was always happy Yeah in it. Yeah, but I didn't know How to define it or what it was or even how to protect it for that matter. I get it and so for me once I learned that Man when I'm up here Nothing else matters And I learned I learned it from a crazy place from being on stage Being extremely happy being extremely fulfilled And being extremely broke Broke Divorced all of that and none of that mattering In that moment. Okay. Whoa, and this is what you see in background. Are we are you seeing this is when I'm doing a just You know little random shows like different things keep the lights on I mean, I'm tank. Yeah, yeah, okay. Okay. I'm tank. Okay You know I'm saying I got maybe I deserve out. I got one man out. Yeah, I'm doing a timeline. Yeah, and I'm and I'm trying to I'm trying to figure out Where the happy is that I can where I can always get there and I realized that in music on stage In that studio nothing nothing else fucking matters. Wow like okay. Wow. Okay because because I had allowed the stress The stresses of life to weigh me down so crazy to where it affected everything And then one day consciously I said I'll I'll never do that again. Hey I'll never let anything Disrupt the gift and disrupt the space that the gift lives in and so it wasn't always like that Wow, I had to adopt that. That's amazing. Yeah, that's amazing And I was through the fire So now it's like it's all we got to go through all this shit just to get on the fucking stage It's crazy. Yeah, when that motherfucking music come on when we get them push-ups in And we pump that chest because you know they want to see it Hey put the veneers in and we taking that walk That's a different thing It's a whole different thing different beats. No, I I listen, but that's not something you want it. No Nah, I didn't I didn't and And I didn't notice like Writing songs professionally like was even a thing. You know what I mean? Like We were doing that just out of sure like shared we I love like this is dope like love So you were because being from a place like Kansas City. We're so rich in music You guys had so many talented people come out of Kansas City. Yeah come out of Kansas and Kansas and both sides Missouri and Kansas And even even someone like Olivia O'Hara is a dam in thomas Who were a generation before you? Yeah. Were you guys watching that? I never knew anything about any of that No, wow Never did and it might be just because I was so Like in like the church lane So it might be because of that now I say in the church lane like But I did like one of the things was like Like I grew up in the church, but I also it wasn't like I could I could also listen to the secular music secular music On weekends Yeah Saturday go ahead Turn turn Jay's striking it. No nobody's None of us Only got entertainment The timing was impeccable. I tell you that much I can listen to this song for now Hey now he's having to remember like The song that I couldn't watch it TV I can listen to I can listen to the songs But it wasn't it wasn't uh, of course nothing like with no cousin or nothing like that, but R&B for sure. Okay for sure. Um, my mom only knew the radio versions to nwa And I would rap them at school and they would laugh at me The radio ready a young brother with an attitude Hey, you I can't wait to have our excuse me To wrap along with it. Oh my god, please On the podcast and rap would take like I'll wrap with warn g Oh my god, that's crazy the radio version is crazy But I could I could my mom she was she was the gospel listener, but my dad so my dad um, that's really Where I got like It was such a diverse, um listening palette so It was all to r&b, but then my dad also would listen to the michael mcdonald and and and uh, bobby carwell and like steely dan and then to be a whole Which I mean that's a whole nothing but because they learned from yeah That's so me. You know what I'm saying? So, um, but that was where I learned all that and and I never associated a skin type with any of that music and so for me I always thought like going up. I thought my McDonald's black bobby carwell. I thought bobby carwell was black listening to those voices and then as you get older it's like They lied to me wait what? But I like I just um, I just started reading michael mcdonald's biography and he talks about like his whole influence It was it was our brothers for sure bruh Like the whole his own and he's not a you know ashamed of about it. Like he's like, oh, yeah, like I was listening to this this there and so So yeah, so for my dad, um, that was where like Everything it'd be like chris cross like like that's where I got on the chris like everything he listened to it all and so um A lot of that early on Was just kind of like poured into me. Mm-hmm. Essentially creatively as well. Um, and I didn't Probably recognize it then um but Yeah singing Literally that was something from five. I prefer I will perform with him through the city till I was probably 13 14 15 somewhere around there when I quit Suzuki piano. Yeah Um, but yeah, that was where it all started. Are you are you getting some of the money you're making or no? You know what? No, I don't think so now I need to have a talk with Dwayne senior on yeah, I think hey, let me holla at you Hey, listen, you had a place to live You had barbecue You had a organs These lights are on right Yeah, I'm wanting to get ain't sweet Because he like yeah, I don't know how he was getting booked I can tell you how you getting booked Hey, that's funny. Yeah, so yeah, we want me me and little Dwayne we don't come down We're gonna do a couple numbers at your spot. Yeah That was one I handle all the business I know everybody else got these they got these grown up groups. I got a little Dwayne with me though Yeah, you're gonna love you're gonna love you're gonna love Juice it's all you need juice Apple juice you gonna cut up Make it make it envelope Whitmore senior Yeah, yeah, his name Dwayne with me just write Dwayne with more Nations Bank Now I get why your man wasn't there Dwayne with people games Dwayne like that don't say mine Little Dwayne like Hey, we out today. Yeah, that's us. I'm C to fire. Hey call J bell time for every Hey dog, oh my god He got a working he's gonna have crazy Like that he ain't got no walk. Oh my talking like that Talking like that he ain't got no worries. All right, we're gonna really get you Hey dog, that's crazy. You starting to talk so much really Stop Oh, I just wanted my guy to recognize He had been done like me When you talk early, I could have told you I could have told you who's booking Bro, that's crazy All our paths cross Crazy, it's crazy. That was literally that was it bro. That was um That was where where it all started and then we um Then we kind of kept that going until everybody went off to college. Yeah, and did there did the thing but I was still like writing and again like I didn't know anything about like writing for people and that kind of thing like who's writing for us still writing just j For a to j. Still writing for a to j. You know what I'm saying? So that was what it was Hey there, this is josh from stuff you should know with a message that could change your life The stuff you should know think spring podcast playlist is available now Whether spring has sprung in your neck of the woods yet or not the stuff you should know think spring playlist Will make you want to get your overalls on get outside and get your hands in the dirt You can get the stuff you should know think spring playlist on the iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts And when does the light bulb go off Is there is there somebody who from an actual Music business standpoint that takes some notice or you end up in a room somewhere and People hear some things and like hey, you know that now that was that was a ways down the line honestly So titus it actually titus moved titus and brun moved out here around uh, they moved out here not too long after after high school like right after high school moved out but Titus moved out And I went off to college. I think titus went to college for like a year but he um He uh, he came out here and uh, he had an older brother that was already out here Who was in a gospel group at the at the time too and so? Um titus it moved out here first. I was in college. I actually was playing football and so I was a safety and so I played Actually, my focus was on football when I graduated my focus was on football We would I mean we would still do we would do music Like when I would come home for like breaks or something like that. Yeah, but but I was uh 100 focused on football. I uh, I went to uh, juko junior college played there and then um, I transferred to uh, uapb, um for for for a couple years And finished out my time there but played ball there and then from there I I was dry so the nfl your nfl had a european league at the time So I was drafted to nfl europe to the berlin thunder. So I played I was I was over there for a second Are you really playing football? I did for for for you had locked in you already locked in I was locked in on On football, but you know, it's crazy This lady I Somebody told me one time and this is when I was like heavy and football for me. It was actually my my dreams were nfl Yeah, so I was like That's my that's what i'm doing. Boom. I'm so i'm doing i'm having tryouts chiefs and raiders and Coats different people before I got sent to nfl europe and then This lady I I come home. Somebody told me one time. Um, she said Actually, I think it was my godmother that told me this i'm not sure but she was like You she came up to me. She approached me. She was real nervous and she was like, um She's like, yeah, I um She was like the lord put it on in my spirit. I'm to tell you that uh, and I just been kind of going back and forth with it Well, I should tell you or not and she said um, but he told me to tell you that Music is what you're supposed to be doing and not football And I was like, oh, okay. Thank you like thanks for that word. I got blood appreciate you You don't get all my faith. Is that how you cuss people? God bless you god bless you appreciate you crazy. That was definitely what it was because you fully focused I wouldn't hear another that yeah, I wouldn't hear any of that. Um, I was headed to nfl europe and so I was doing trial we get try. I never made a team though. I never made an actual team So I didn't make the cheese. What was your 40? 441 are you's moving? 441 so I got when I got drafted in nfl europe I got moved from safety to run it back Because I was like 235 to use the both of y'all was a big safety. So they like yeah, we're gonna go ahead and Move you over here to run it back. So I got moved to run it back. But so what's where I felt Where I felt the pool where I felt the Because again this whole time I'm still writing and so I'm still we still doing music and I'm writing songs This was like 2008. I think somewhere around there and so This was where when I started I See the 2008 yeah, I'd be like oh wait Titus was out here And then I started like realizing and learning about like writing for other people that you could write for other people Yeah, this is why I'm in training camp and while I'm like trying out still So when I was supposed to be studying my playbook I mean I'm writing songs. So I'll never forget. Um, I was in training camp in Tampa and my uh my roommate During training camp he's studying his playbook. He hear me writing songs. I'm singing he's like I mean what you uh, what's that? I'll just some songs. All right. Like you writing songs. It's like, yeah, he's like He's saying some more. That's not crazy. Like let me hear some more. So, uh I'm doing that. I'm doing it the whole time and then I would go back to like studying my playbook But I could feel the music pulling me harder at around this time I started feeling the music pulling me harder than football was which was crazy Because it had always been football. Always. Yeah. Yeah, that was it. That was the only that was my only focus but I started really feeling and pulling me and um And I remember Because some guys man like when you when you've done whether it's football basketball anything if you've done something your whole life From a kid or from middle school And then all of a sudden one day is cut off and you can no longer so it's like some of the people play in the nba or in the field it's like all right you're done Like You all of a sudden can't get picked up by a team. So now what do you do with the rest of your life? Yeah, you've done this one thing for so long now. It's like what else are you gonna do? So I've had I know people that like Struggled with it. Yeah, and had to like actually get help Like to deal with the mental The mental aspect of that like, okay. How do I how do I just all of a sudden? Forget about what I've been doing and find something else to do with my life Thankfully, thank god. Like I did not go through that because again, like I felt the music starting to pull me a little tug on me a little bit harder pause then um Then the football and so um When I got cut the last time when I got cut from the team I um, I remember saying to myself I'm done. I'm done with football Like I'm not I'm not I want to do any more trials. No nothing like and then they try to Um, I got a call to the the frankfort galaxy of the NFL European League. They wanted me to come Come out like mid-season. I was like And how old are you at this point? Hey 20 To make 20 your baby. Yeah 22 I think something like that Yeah, so so but I but I knew because again At this point Titus was sending me tracks like because we weren't in the same city. He was just sending me the tracks and I write to the tracks and and and I'm trying to think if brian was sending me tracks at this time. I might have been getting tracks from brian around this time but I remember being like Yeah, I'm done like let me figure out how to do this music thing. Let me just figure this out. So I ended up moving back to kc. I moved back to kc for a half minute and I was Because I was still unsure I like about the whole music thing like as far as like How to you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, so what I was going to do because my dad was a dentist as well Do I ain't seen he was a dentist? He said wait, thank you. What? He was a dentist I love it. I love it. He was a dentist and so I came back home and then I um, I went to finish school finish college so I was like Maybe I'll go maybe I'll go be a dentist So I started taking courses But I'll never forget I took This is what actually made me be like, you know what? No, it's not the dentist thing for me Yeah, I took finite mathematics and calculus. I'm cool and I Ruh finite mathematics and calculus and I passed with a c And you could not have told me it wasn't an a I was like niggas that is hard as this I got a c and I was like Yeah, I probably don't need to do the rest of this uh Pre-requisites we're gonna go ahead The people don't want to see Dennis. They probably want to want to see they don't want this they don't want to see Dennis They don't want that a dentist, you know what I mean? So I uh, yeah after that, bro, you know the signs You were getting all the signs at least you didn't fail though. You didn't fail Didn't fail, but bro that c felt like a a as hard as I studied for it. I was like Yeah, that took a lot We're gonna we're gonna go ahead and stop stop the bus right here. You can let me out right here So is is Titus playing the records for people? Do you even know if that's happening? that um A little bit after that a little bit after that around That had to be like maybe oh nine 2010 oh nine. I think it was when it was because that's when I Um was like, all right. I'm not doing dental school. Let me like really figure out this music So, yeah Titus and Brian Because I was writing to Brian's tracks at this time too because Titus and Brian were in a band together You remember they had a band together Do all the live stuff? Mm-hmm And they started but they started that in kc. So they would like play it all the like all the spots around kc And then I would come out and like sing at some of the joints around the city or whatever, um, but they were like you know, I was like, oh Yeah, my dog was like they out there doing they doing they think doing they music and but I didn't as far as I knew I thought they were out here like gigging like like just playing for oh, you didn't know that they I thought it was like placing records. I thought it was like playing for people. I didn't know what placing records was I quickly learned because I because Brian and like landed something. I think I'm gonna see era and then and then It was disturbia and forever from Chris Brown and then like it was like off um And so yeah, we were doing songs. Uh, I was just I was sending them joints back back and forth and then I visited out here for the first time um What's that the first? Yeah, it was the first time my other cousin and I we visited out here And then we were just like doing records. Um doing songs in the studio out here It's my first time ever in like an actual like studio studio Um, which was dope. I still remember it was off uh Dang off uh, but these is the langeshimmer violent. It was like a little almost like a hole in the wall type joint too though. Um, Like right by that you remember that like you should be like a kfc And a blockbuster like right at what it's like a weird little cross where like langeshim and violent intersect intersect It was right out the studio was right over there And I remember walking in that studio because it was more like a little like apartment turn studio and I remember like Oh, so this is a studio This don't look like the uh, this don't look like the studio They don't look like depictions. It's gonna like I might have gave me the wrong pamphlet this You sure we had the right place Y'all might have gave me the wrong pamphlet But we bro, we locked in and then um, I went back to kc for a second and then uh and then we ended up Doing a deal with brian and that's what That's what made the like move official Actually was crazy. I moved out here without knowing that I actually was moving out here full time like that I just it's like I came out and never went back It's kind of how it goes. Yeah, really? No, yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, yeah I I still remember my pops telling me what this was like later my pops telling me I didn't even know you had moved like I thought you just I didn't even know you had moved. I was like yeah me either Yeah, I didn't tell nobody I was moving really I came to LA and I just didn't go back Wow Dang, that's exactly. I know what I'm gonna figure it out. That's exactly how it happened on this floor. Yeah I'm gonna stay in the studio. I'm It's just my my mindset at that time being a young guy that just Yep was looking to fulfill my dream. That's great. It was never like oh, yeah. Yeah, and then we got the moving. Yeah. Yeah I didn't have no front. It's sure if you were here. No moving truck. It was me and my clothes Dang, so you so when you say you did a deal Mm-hmm. So you signed publishing deal you tried to publishing deal with Brian. Mm-hmm. We're Brian, uh Titus Caleb uh my cousin Caleb the other who was also in a to j all three of us We all ended up we all signed a deal. Uh, we're Brian at the time. Um, a publishing deal um at the time and that's what uh like Made the whole move like a official official official, but I yeah again like I came out here just thinking move out of these songs, but then like It was like oh now he would talk you up so crazy Brian. What man? Man, oh you got your duane bro. You're doing bro. You got your duane. He just constantly I still remember the first track the first song we did together Like I wouldn't I hadn't even thought about moving out here He was out here because this was I think after His sea era, but it was I think it was before Forever and disturb you know that but I still remember it was the The level of production Um compared to like other people I would work with like in kc or like It was just different. Uh, you were on the real estate. Yeah, bro Yeah It's it's he he talks about that all the time as far as just having local ears Man, and then it's a thing for sure. No having local ears is a thing It's a thing. It's absolutely a thing. It's a thing man. If you don't realize you don't even realize it's not even your fault And so what but before what's I jumped ahead a little bit before I actually before Caleb and I moved out here um We were so we were writing when we were writing these songs in kc We were writing them in a bathroom that we turned into a studio. I know the boss. He had a townhouse and um We converted the the bathroom. We had like a little styrofoam little joints padded up the bathroom And that was shower, baby bro, and that was the booth. That was the booth We slide slid the microphone there and then and then taught ourselves how to uh engineer how to cut the vocals He taught us how to do all that um bass bar in three it was crazy He gotta you start figuring out your whatever however, whatever somebody sets up for you Is your way to push record? I want to say we started in like fruity loops or something like that though Which was crazy and then and then and then started he was really like becoming the engineer You know what I mean for real for real and then he was just like it got to a point where he was just like cut cut me Cut my vocals. Um, and then I would um, yeah like in the bathroom. That's where it all that's where all that started but um It was yeah, I remember when would when we were doing brian's track started really like coming through like that it would be like Why do you join sound? Like they on the radio. Yeah, like, you know what I mean? Just just different But that was a blessing in itself though Oh big time to have big time someone who already had number one records big time Just sending joints back to kasey big time. Like that that is not yeah big time I always always really love that about Y'all whole crew even And I say crew meaning that just the guys that come from Kansas. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not all y'all work together But yeah, yeah, there is this there's a pipeline There's a pipeline to the music business real for the talented guys In Kansas City, though, what you know, like I meet obviously Which starts with with liveo and damon but then from meeting liveo and damon I meet little ronnie from little ronnie I meet brian kennedy brian kennedy. I meet you and titus and you know, I'm saying like, you know, what's crazy I never which again like I tell and I it might have been just because I because of the turst thing I never knew the history of who came out of kasey. You know what I'm saying? I like the group talent and marlin it bro. I never which is I found on it out Yes, yes, and so as far as I knew like At that time it was like I just knew brian Right was like out of kasey. But yeah, like you said damon. Oh, it's a whole it's a whole line of really really talented guys Especially in the r&b space. I just as of like I we did um, I spoke on a on a panel Back in kansas city like about a year and a half ago two years ago and just met um Pichet white. Yeah, it's also also from there. Kansas City Mackle like Mackle and I'm just like, so y'all don't even know each other back home, bro. No, no That's crazy. Yeah, not at all man. Um, but but So we yeah, it's crazy like so we were doing that we would we sent stuff back and forth During the period though before when titus was still in kasey We were working out of this studio. We were gonna have this guy had built a studio And he was tight with this was at the time like where you had to save everything on the um Titus having to save everything on the computer. It was a trident. I think he would have to save everything on there All the track on there or something like that and I remember like this guy We were using the studio and um, I remember Titus will come in and be like Man, where why are my tracks being erased? Why come on? We just did this last night. Now it's not on here and like I think buddy was like erasing his like the tracks because I think they're like He wanted to do music as well from what I understand like the guy wanted to do music as well. Um, but then Titus just kind of like Was kind of like really making some leeway And he was purposely erasing tracks. That's kind of what tight what we kind of felt like might have been I thought you was gonna say well, he just didn't really know and even though Ty I remember we talked about it Titus would be like, hey man This is happening way too much like I don't understand And then and then the ice on the cake Prophet Todd Hall, you know, Prophet Todd Hall He came to Kansas City one time To our church and he prophesied he said He told he told the guy said That studio that you built That's not for you. That's for Titus. That's for him. He didn't know Titus's name. He was like, that's for him So then the guys kind of like then I might have put a little bit more That studio you built you thought it was for you, but that's for him So the guy's like, well, I guess I need to give you a key a key Titus You know, but but for some reason Titus was like we we showed the next day after we were working we were writing this stuff and show up and like Track is going again. That's what's going on. So Yeah, it was it was it was crazy then right after that type of like, you know what I'm about to just go ahead and get about it. Take it back right back to LA So then he moved right back out here and that from that point right after that little after that we saw him with Brian No, your your name your name is isn't really high standing I'll take it. It is it really is like I've never met anybody. It's like I think it's a way You hear that about a lot of people about the majority of this shit when you really look at it Your name is really all that's all you got And it's it's it's almost like a credit since either you got good credit or you got bad credit if people hear your name and they like No, but see here's another part of that too, right? It's like You can be you can be very very gifted and And not check the okay facts the character box. Yep, but true very true Dang, it's it It's a it's such a limited run When they finally find reason to not let you back Because they don't really want you in that dang to begin with they're tolerating you they're tolerating You know what I mean? So the fact that you have the combination of of gift and character Is like wow, it's why you all you all you're always gonna get the call man Man, man, man. Wow like and and deliver like I appreciate it. There's there's there's There's an art to being a joy to be around. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, right. Right. There's an art to that man There's an art to walking into a room and being appreciative that you're there Working like it and acting like it and delivering like it. Yeah I think also too like Everybody's not a good collaborator. Yeah, so well, I mean which is I guess is really what you was essentially what you were saying but everybody's not a good collaborator so being a A Co-writer writing with if you're not just doing 100 percenters if you ain't printing this thing out here Right with the people You have to know you have to also know the personalities that you're working with some personalities You have to be able you you might be an A-type personality, but You have to know Like there's certain people that I work with Where I know I need to let them get out whatever it is that's up there. I know for me. I'm not gonna lose. I'm not gonna lose it That's there. I know how I'm tapping into what I need seven to There's certain people you work with where it's like if you don't let them just get it out They lose it and then you no longer have them in the room. They're no longer there there, but they're no longer You know what I mean? So to bring the best out of who you work You have to know the personalities that you're working with And and what brings them the best out of that person? You know what I mean? Like I think a lot of that A lot of that goes into that's a skill in itself. Yeah, man. That's a skill in itself You have to listen you have to watch you have to Observe and then you have to you have to note. Yeah, absolutely And like he said and still be able to keep your thoughts your thoughts exactly You know, I mean because people get lost in there. It's too like oh damn. What was I? And then if you can identify that that's that type of personality and that's a person you like like you said Let them flush theirs out. Yeah 1000% man, and then you know who you can and can't work with boom And but and then as we speak of specifically to chris brown Uh You got to put your track shoes on The boy is different man. He's on to the other song. He's different. Yeah fast. Yeah, he's different Because how how old was he when y'all like met him or when y'all worked with 14 14? He was 14 Yeah, maybe 14 times. Yeah, which is also too like this is I think people don't you know, they don't take into account like 14 years old Being thrown into a music industry where you're like, I remember him telling me Early on I think he might have been like 15 something But when he was just like they send him to Atlanta and he's working with I forget who all he was working with You get that record deal and they trying to find it Bruh, but he's telling me like Where they taking them to and some of the stuff he's extracurriculars You know, and I'm like as a 15 year old or 14 15 year old like how do you How do you Not how do you deal with the fact that like You're going from because history is crazy like like it was almost overnight for him like from playing basketball on his school team to no, no, no, no you you about you about to go do this You know what I'm saying, but y'all saw it early on with him um And and I feel like I he's just he's different man. Most people would have been Most people you probably wouldn't even know you wouldn't hear from him anymore You're like what in the world like if they had gone through and started that early and then really going through a lot of the stuff that That bro has gone through. Um, I think it it the tenacity and the determination and the resiliency like to keep Keep doing you and not only keep doing you but There's something to whether you're a chris brown or you a tank or dwayne or jay, whoever there's there's something to also Knowing how to separate. Okay Am I trying to please No, I'm not trying to please let me just let me let me work for and do who I know rocks with me and just like that's one thing What chris is i'm like chris knows who his he knows who his fans are chris ain't trying to win over new fans. What? I'm not trying to win over a new fan. I know what that I know what that's about I know who's there. I know let me put 100 into that. Do you take that same mindset as a writer? Absolutely I don't need to win anybody over Absolutely, you just trying to write the best song you can that's it If you like it you like it. I love it great But i'm not trying to win anybody over If I can show up and be the best me if I can be better than I was yesterday Oh job mission accomplished. You still write every day. Absolutely Every day and maybe not saturdays or sundays. Maybe oh so now you okay, maybe not saturdays Okay, but the entertainment now Is during the week Because On the weekend No, no on the weekend It's rip fire Because he's off You don't write no no no no he writes during the week He's he's still a Suzuki During the week And then on the weekend on entertainment Bro, I just I I I love what we do I I love I have a love for it. I absolutely love it's it's something we're not we're not doctors We're not you know, we're not anything like that but the amount of uh of Your brain that you have to use every day to get up and come in and do what we do and come up with some You have to make something every single day that doesn't exist yet. Yeah It's not out there yet. It's called magic. It's magic. You have to literally go real magic You have to wake up every single day and invent something that does not exist. We have a friend We have a friend very accomplished very successful doctor Dr. Irfan come on call us yourself. Dr. Superman Come on, dr. Superman. He He told me one time um He said I retired a long time ago. He said I just I just worked with you guys I was like, what do you mean? You just work with Us, you know what I mean? Because I met him through boys demand. Oh shoot, right? And he was like, I just work with I just work with entertainers and musicians Because the world needs you guys Wow, and we need you guys to live as long as possible Facts and I never thought about that. He's any like bro. It's necessary. It's necessary. We out in florida, bro Me and him riding around And and we we just talking about music and about life and about, you know, the things that he's done in his business and he says You guys are the only people I want to work with I'm trying to keep y'all alive as long as possible because of what you guys do for the world for the world You know, because we always say that like what we do ain't brain surgery or we don't have a bot but It low key the enjoyment that music gives the world I really in the relief relief. I really had never truly thought about that until a doctor said that to me so true So true. He was like, I need y'all to live. It's so true. Dang Wow, what do we have without? Musicians and entertainers and I was like, damn, that's kind of that's so true, bro. Wow Wow on a grand scale on a grand scale on a grand scale That's amazing. Dr. Dr. Super. Dr. Superman. Shout out to Dr. Superman. Come on I love that. It's real. It's just a real thing and for you to say I love this. I absolutely love what I do. I absolutely love it and I love like We and y'all both y'all have both, you know In a matter of what genre it is, you know, like been sinking and and all of the like bro like When you look at it like it all comes back. I guess when I was saying when I was little and I thought and I'm listening to like Michael Mcdonald and I'm listening It all comes back to r&b. Oh It all comes back. It's rooted It's rooted and you know You put a different voice on it And you know what I mean? You call it whatever you want. You know what I mean? But it's that's where the root is That's exactly where the root where the root is. Um And we're amazing at what we do. Yeah, do you have a favorite song song? Yeah That you've ridden that I've ridden Hmm or proudest moment song wise You know what probably residuals with chris brown is that what we're going Because it's because Chris is the first one like I to see him having such a moment and like With him being like the first the very first, you know, to ever give me to be like Man, I don't care that you guys zero placements. Like I don't care nothing like and for him to always Give me the call like That's probably that one Probably that one Probably that one probably that one. All right, explain this. Yeah, give us give us that. Explain that motherfucker monster That's a different type of session galactic Meteor shower Nigger Congrats on another Grammy for y'all too. Appreciate you man. Appreciate you man that um that one That one also means a lot man because it's with my brother's black tuxedo Dominarious who y'all you know, I mean have always taken under y'all's wing, you know, I mean I was telling uh, I was telling Eric Dawkins is the other day, um With especially with them man, I say I say chris. It means a lot with chris But it also means it holds the same amount of weight because I did it with Um, dominarious too. Yeah, and I they've been grinding just as long as I have and have never changed and have always been consistent Always and I think that goes so far. Um So I so I love that but we um, we actually wrote that song in 2019 Long time ago uh, like 20 2018 yeah 2019 wrote that song in 2019. Never thought man. Maybe take ah Maybe take I wasn't gonna say it I wasn't gonna say it. Well, you know what you give me the over under by I You know, you know what? Hey dominarious they they got your numbers Oh, oh Brothers You're right Oh my god, them niggas never played that shit for you. You know, you know, I told them niggas like Hey They be at your house, right? That's that's crazy Hey, bro, it's great back the bus Roll them niggas. Oh, hey, you rolled them niggas They still out of there one more time We got them. Oh man. Do we get them? They don't move. They still move Let's go. I can't bro. No, they're my brothers, man But 2019 we did that we did that back in 2019 um, and then um Did anybody else have a chance to sing it because if it's a record that's been sitting for that long No, we gave it to chris right away. Okay. Okay chris had it right away, but Chris sat on it though. So that was supposed to be on the breezy album. Okay, chris had recorded it and then he um, he sat on it and of course he Did his thing to it and brought it all the way to life like that that boy knows how to tap into whatever Is necessary. Alien frequency. Yeah, it's different. Um And well dom and dom we we did it we wrote it and then dom um Dom sent it to the the free of legendary Eric Hudson. Yes To to really bring that production to life. Uh, which he did you hear that guitar right away. Yeah, it's like oh boy This is where we're going. Mm-hmm so, um Yeah, chris had cut it and then um, he he uh, he didn't put it on breezy um And then yeah, he ended up He didn't have it on 11 11 You're right. Dang. You're right. It wasn't on there. You want to know when I heard it when Sitting at my house. Oh shoot as they always are We did this crazy joint on breezy, man. He not he not even putting it on the album and I was like I was in the mirror They played residuals. Oh, I said Jesus rice I hit cb immediately. Oh shit. Shoot residuals nikka It's not like bro. No, it's going on. It's it's going on. It's good. It's good. I said, are you kidding me? Residuals, that's crazy I wish I knew you had done that because I think that's kind of how you did me on on my way You put me on the wall mark, uh deluxe You said we talked We we start we talk about chris brown right now I hit your night Yo, that's crazy But I wanted him on the album. I was like, what do I put this song? We got a target deluxe That's it target Jay lindsay You love target put your target Hey, so You hit chris immediately immediately when you hit a record immediately. I wish I knew that wow immediately I wish I knew that because I I want to say Because because I hit him because I wanted to make sure He needed he needed it. You don't because if you don't I do I do I wish I knew that you had done that because Black tux ended up giving people publishing on that record that Have nothing to do with that record. Oh Oh and and and because I'm from what I was told the play was run another way and but I wish I knew that because I'm like keep your publishing You know what I'm saying? No, I believe he 1000% no, I'm just saying I was like I See what's going on? That's crazy. That's absolutely crazy and and listen, you know That's amazing. What a song. Thank you. Thank you so much. You know what else is crazy fucking song From what I was told they also played it for usher And usher passed on it From what I was told from what they told me Usher passed on it because chris had sat on it for so long Paws sat on the record for a while and and um It's 2025. I know That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, ain't mine 2024. Yeah, wow. Yeah five years long time I'm Yeah, lists. Yeah. Thank you so much. It isn't I heard it in 20 what 2023 that had to be. Yeah, that had to be I said What's going on? This is this is one of the most incredible records I've heard man Listen this challenge that you listen Oh my gosh I never seen nothing like that. I haven't seen nothing like that and I and I do challenges I I have not seen nothing like this because this song Wow Listen, I call the soldiers, you know, I call the soldiers in the camp and in And and they show up and get to shooting, right? I love that But This is different. Yeah the power of chris brown the power of this song Right has brought Everybody out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah in a way like I've never seen and and normally, you know a challenge goes and it And it just it'll just die off in about three four days. Yeah, they won't stop I'm still posting this morning. This morning people literally text me there. So I'm like, I have nothing to do I cannot I'm gonna start texting back my cash out You Post there Want no much static post-cost Makes my money you want to get on the feed And I'm not gonna even I'm not gonna offer tanks feed Would you like to be on my page? That's the least. Hey, you know what you'd have the cash out right away too. They said I promise you You won't get on right by bands. Hey, I promise you I have to be up for two days Bro, you know what? Dom and Darius went on a roll that for like because the day before we did residuals They did go girlfriend. I think Okay, I think that's what they told me that they did that like And Mike j who's a nut man monster. Yeah, monster He Mike is one of our brothers Mike is one that I want to like really win so bad Like I don't know nobody like I It's time for that part of it. It's bro. Yeah, he's he's he's insane. Yeah, absolutely insane man, but but yeah, they uh They just they're in their bag. Are you are you excited for? For the first performance Check to come Ask Anticipating you know what in influx I I welcome it. Yes capital. I welcome that with open arms Do you have your mind on anything particular? You would like to buy real estate more more real estate more real estate. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, this is a thing like a business man No, I ain't seeing it If only junior could have passed I mean we wouldn't get these great songs We wouldn't get these great songs or real estate. I listen. I like what you're saying, but I learn from y'all I feel like there's something else you would buy. I feel like you're gonna do the real estate You're gonna do the responsible thing, but give me give me the irresponsible thing that you have to get off I'm not really irresponsible. No No, because You so you didn't when you got when you got your first when you got your first check you didn't do You haven't done anything You know what I did with my very first like Decent size check. Mm-hmm. I got a car. So I didn't have to walk the regular player So I didn't have to like have my lady drop me off at regular play. There's that and and um, that was the first thing Nice one. Uh, what did I get for my friend? No, it was just at that time a and b car Yeah, it was like I think it was just like a Volkswagen at that time You at least put some rims on never we're not gonna do anything disrespectful to it. No, no, 10th of windows No, it came with it. I'm trying I'm trying to find the Somebody else Your cars don't come to I don't know and I first got my first Wild and I went to the strip club, you know, they got to know I had you went to buy What the strip club no I went to the strip club and showed them that I can afford it To be there not to buy it Something else No No, I ain't by none of that stuff From new girls That's nicely Oh Oh my god, bro Oh my lord all that to say Hey, bro, you better than me Hey if I had a residual check on the way, you know what? You know what and when I tell you don't listen to like watching his my garden Need I need two sections that live I need two One for me and one for my wife I If I'm the way I mean because he got the residuals that are actually I've his his his performance of that man incredible untouched unmatched um, and I love like the whole aesthetic of it Like the mic came like that's something we're in my in show. I said I said I don't even think he knows Dang, no no, it's real because I didn't get to see it a lot. I didn't get to see it Out of the universe man, it wasn't like oh Chris saying to himself. Yeah, or the team saying, okay. This is the moment. That's gonna go viral Then it's gonna snowball right it was just Special and the universe said what the fuck is that? And I said to myself a long time ago even even having conversations with him. I was like, bro. If you ever just stop I said, this you can wiggle your ass off Nega, you're the dancingest nigga. I've ever seen in my life. You're most acrobatic most eat nigga. I said, but if you ever just stop In just seeing no, they are going to fall the fuck out. Yeah Because you gotta have a p with the w right you gotta have a pippin With the anna wiggle right Now Chris got the p a dog Now that's the pivot Come on now. Come on now. That is the pivot. Oh my god He's standing there with that microphone giving them time to just man just watch and observe. Yeah Appreciate. Yeah, I was I was in console like this Man Rice Now now it's now it's every level Now he's mastered every level. I would have loved for him To sing that at the granny say say say it say it say it one more time at the grammy's I would have I would have I think it was we needed we needed it. It would have been insane Our r&b rep is r&b representatives. Yep. Our r&b representative. Yeah, that was it. Absolutely. Absolutely. I Yeah, I love it. I love it. I love it for him and me and and black tux as well again, like those are those are my brothers Yeah, now congratulations. Appreciate y'all Let me just I just want to talk to you about you. Yes, sir. You as an artist you as a singer What does that look like for you? Man? Are you are you are you going to I mean it's You know what? Accidentally Right, but I'm saying do you capitalize on that because you bro you have insane musical moments as a creative And and your voice and your your your sonic and your signature It's it's already vibrating at a level to where you can just Jump right in if you I have been thinking about like What that looks like, you know what I mean, um and I like the the dance the dance, you know That that's my area. So but you know what that that that that is all that all has like accidental and it's just like But it's been it's been amazing. Especially the ascat Check change from it. You know what I mean? Um, but get tapping into the we did a record Last year for uh, this artist named Zara Larson on um, she's she's a british artist Uh, really big british artist over there, but we did a we did a top top 15 top 10 I think it was record for her called on on my love with david getta last year and Creating writing the record. It was it was one of the dopest things That I saw from somebody like getta with writing song He he brought in the the music that he wanted for the track for it. He's like, okay. Um, this is what I'm looking for so write the song, but then um, we attacked the verse like from a Angle well, you know A dance angle He comes in and he's like No, no, no, no, no. This is what I want And he plays the most soul I don't even know the like if some from the like 70s like a a mother voice like Like super strong like you know what I mean? And then that was the approach I took on the verse for it for zara And then he comes in he's like yes. Yes. It was a super rmb It was a rmb verse all the way through and through he's like, yes This is it and then she cuts it And then it doesn't it's what we were saying earlier. It doesn't come off So rmb for her to wear her audience is like it's too rmb But it's a rmb The prod wrote the whole thing like approach wise we wrote the whole verse as rmb so Record, you know what I mean? So I think it's what? again, it again it all comes back to Comes back to that. Um There there's a group Um, and I'm talking that's on the dance front then on the country front. There's a group Called they that I that I did a lot with on their last couple albums But we did an album in 2021 called the amanda tape if you haven't heard it go listen to it It's an amazing project, but we do the amanda tape and then um The amazing amazingly talented kc musgraves um in nashville Here's the project and then she reaches out and she's like hey Love this amanda tape would y'all be down to do a week with me in nashville Go out and do a week with her in nashville and then we end up we end up being the only Not only outside writers black Drew love dante and myself the only black People on that whole country album and one number one number one country album But we were the only black people that she brought in on she does everything with just her team But she did that and then she she was like, yo, are you okay if I just leave your backgrounds on the record? I was like absolutely. Yeah, so it's like the song starts off with me And then and then her and I'm like absolutely then she jumps on a record with them with with the group day And she features on there there. We so just you know, it all comes back to r&b It always is go come back to r&b when you look at like the fevers and and It all comes, you know in sing all that like R&B y'all were probably writing r&b songs when y'all were doing that stuff, you know what I mean? For sure the approach on it. You know what I mean for sure. I mean it it you know, it's just Whoever singing yep, and you put a different sonic on it. You know absolutely You're gonna tinker with being an artist. You're gonna try to figure out what that looks like. Yeah, we're gonna see what that looks like Yeah, yeah, I think so I mean listen because it's I always say even I tell Dom and Jerry's I said listen It's something to being in the crowd and seeing your song perform In a way that's life changing. Yeah, body in that room. Yeah, and then there's something to you actually being on the stage singing that song That is changing the lives of everybody in that room. Wow so it's like like Okay, I'm sorry because I don't know like how far your discovery goes back But it was maybe I deserve your first like hit Yes, okay You know you talk about how music can take you back like maybe I deserve I remember that and I think eighth grade Like that like boom. That's a that's a core memory. You know what I'm saying like that Does it maybe I deserve slowly? Oh my gosh, bro, honestly And I think it comes back to again what I said about you have to love what it is you do That's longevity when you really look at when you really look at it How many people do you know that started when you were starting that are still doing Still doing this and not out of you know what I mean like because they can It's not a lot. I can guarantee you and I don't even know for sure but I can guarantee you it's not a lot I love all of this. Yeah. Yeah You you what happens is and what I've noticed is that the one thing that can happen is you can get burnt out with the process man, man of creating and coming up with new and rebranding and facts and Long studio hours and photo shoots video shoots like all of these things can get they can get tiring and old Even though you love the music the idea of it the the you know the initial reason why you fell in love with it But everything surrounding it Drain you it can take from you. Hmm. I can only speak for them. I do not speak for me. Come on now I love all that shit. That's amazing man. But it shows though and I keep up with all of it It shows whether it be production whether it be that's fire whether it be drip whether it be Staging whether it be lighting. I'm I'm in tune with all of it but that's also a common thread that I find amongst a lot of the the greats is You don't feel like you're done learning like you stay learning I feel like the the ones who are great and absolutely able to like keep doing They stay learning. I feel like that's it. No, that's it. Whether that's surrounding yourself with people I don't even want to say younger but just like that do something that you don't that you don't necessarily do Is it a younger thing or I think it's somebody who's the active in currently in this? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah facts facts and then that's the beauty in it to be able to look at somebody that does something totally different than The approach on it is different than your approach, but then you're able to take that and say Like I remember the first time I worked with uh, Kenny with babyface And I'm like we're writing the song and I'm like He's like, yeah that and I'm like, you sure? He's like, yeah, I'm like, no, I like what you said. He's like, no, that's it Why all right, so then we finished writing and I'm thinking he's about to go in the booth and sing the song He's like, okay, go on in the booth to it. I said, excuse me I said, you're not let's go Bruh I'm like, oh shoot I'm just I'm expecting him to go because he's inspired. He's like right It was the most insane absolutely insane, but that's why I feel like he's been able to do it for so long too You know, brother de wayne. Yes, sir your top five R&B singers singers singers. Okay. I tried to remember this I need to wait Okay, all right, hold on. Yeah, okay one I know off the top of my head Brandy love that Mm-hmm Okay, let's see brandy Hmm Charlie Wilson. Yeah the crispy man himself. Yeah Stevie Wonder. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Stokely for Minkin you better get out of my bag Stokely leave my bag alone that man that man I Don't know if he gets enough love. You know, don't get it. You know, that was actually my first Uh, like concert that I was in high school junior high school. We're tight as we got we got it Um, I think it was Nissan Stewart that was on tour with him in genuine This was like probably 97 somewhere around there Um, but yeah, we high school. He was the first one. I was just like he was on the drum. He did a double drum He had a double drum so him and uh, Chris Dave Busters. Yeah, he's a monster. Okay, and then um number five He's he's technically not R&B but He's like put me On to all just anyway, j-moss Oh bloody j-moss. Oh bloody J-moss is just like There was there was when I was growing up Kimberl was the thing that like showed me a whole new way of singing a whole new world and then um I remember I at this at this pa w convention one time They had a talent show. It's nothing but adults And um, it was for a cash prize and I got up and saying Uh, try me again And one the one the the talent show for the pa. Della or whatever and um And she was just the first first thing I like showed me in the way and then there was j-moss And I just had never I was just like what in the world So I'm gonna it's harmony. I'm gonna bless your soul. Oh shoot. Hold on. No No, no, no, no, it's just okay. Just remember. I'm gonna. Okay. I'm gonna bless you. Okay. Okay. Okay Top five r&b songs Now that one's tougher Okay, um Hey Oh, that's tough When you touch me by brandy, why not? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Why not? Yeah Shout out to son daniel's come on now And Right, that was what son is right? Rodney. Okay. Yeah, Rodney. Yeah to this day special Brandy was the brandy was the like Like closest thing to a church vocal but but r&b I felt like she may she put it in perspective. She put it in perspective 1000 put it into that song format that was like, oh you can get this off Absolutely in a way that Yep, it is it is classic is it is Mind-boggling, but it's also classic. It's classic. Oh my gosh. Yeah brandy When you touch me the whole album was far. Um, okay Uh Always and forever heat way why not? Why not shout out rod temperature? Yeah Um Come back to me jenna jackson jimmy jammeterre I love that fucking song something about that. Yeah, it's everything about everything of everything about that I've got to meet them one day. Like I've never met them, but they The nicest guys. Yes. Oh you can you can they you can look at them until that right? They're so unaffected by The mega everything that they've done in their career like they're not there Them and them and kenya la like yeah Cool, this over top of the top. Yeah top of the top for me like um Okay, how many is that two three. Oh, okay. Listen we moving. Um Whenever wherever whatever max Yeah, what a song. Yeah, what a song wow That's a pretty song what a song and then number five. Oh shoot Oh man Dang god the five is crazy what I'm always just one more one more. Mm-hmm. Oh man. All right. Um This is tough, okay, I'm going to say Get here olita atoms. Hmm get here by olita atoms love that song. Yeah, some about that some about that song. Um Yeah, some about that song definitely a songwriter. Man, listen, you're a clear Yeah Five is tough Five is tough man. Those are great fucking tunes. Thank you, brother. Thank you because uh, there were residuals in there if you felt like Oh, shoot All right, pretty shy about it. Hey, let's do from from from one of the goats himself. I take that I promise you you do me. I'll take that I Let that motherfucker ride I'll take that All right, let's make a voltron your super r&b artists, right? And so with your super r&b artists, we got you have to decide which vocal From our artists, you're going to put their performance style styling The passion of the artists and then who gonna write for this motherfucker. Oh, shoot real right one vocal to make your super R&B artists just one. All right. Who's vocal it was? Who's vocal? Who to sang? Who to sang? Um Joe Yeah Great vocal Joe great vocal. He's another one. I feel like doesn't get a lot of praise for some reason but Joe An army money podcast. Okay, let's go. Let's go. He's revered. Let's go as a hymn Yeah, I love that performance style Oh stage chris brown. Yeah, it's easy chris. Easy light work Um styling like drip the most age. Yeah, hey performance drip I'm gonna have to go chris again. Why not double mine as well? when it's so like Yeah, he just gets it. I'm flying. Yeah, that's a flying Sure. Yeah double breezy, okay The passion of the artists What if I say a Luther for the drip? Crazy the sequence Hey, listen with the jerry curl Listen, yeah We going breezy though. All right. What's the next one? The passion of the artists Who mean at the heart of the art? Marvin Gaye. Why not? Marvin Gaye. Yeah, shit that man real passionate every word real passionate. Here. My was it here my dear my dear. Yeah Yeah Didn't he write that was it for his wife? Well, he had he had to give her Here my dear for that's what it was. Dang take this. Yeah get off my back. That's crazy. Um Who's right get off my back. Who's writing for this? Jimmy. Jim. Terry. Lewis. Why not easy? Why not? That's easy money Easy money. That's easy money Generational smashes five is hard man Generational smashes. Let's go We're at the very important part of the show. Okay. So you tell us the story Funny or fucked up or funny and fucked up the only rule to the game You can't say no name not a one no names No names. Okay, so Can it be about me? Yes, it's wherever you don't say no name. You can't say nobody else name. Okay. Okay. Um Okay, so there was there was an artist I was working with this was early on this was I might have been out here. Maybe a year out here. I think Mega artist though huge like international internationally like I had been working with him for uh, maybe We'd worked a few times and so, um Um We were We were around the same age. I think but um, I was living in north hollywood at the time off of Magnolia and denny, you know what that rouse is you know what that like, okay, absolutely right off magnolia denny so I would take the north hollywood train station Um, I did public transport my whole like first year out here. So I would take that I would take that we were working at a hinson jim or a hinson studio off of labrea. Yeah, so I took the to the train this one day to to From north hollywood to hollywood and highland so from hollywood and highland to station to The hinson studios is maybe a 20 minute walk. I think 25 minute walks. I'm like that. So I walk it I get to the studio we working and um We working we working now. I I I know what time the trains and the bus stop running so um, so we working and it gets to be around like 11 o'clock and again I've worked with this person for for a handful of times at this point but The pride in me, I guess it was would not ever let me even think about asking this person for a ride home So I'm kind of watching the clock and I'm like, you know, like Train gonna stop here in a bit. I need to wrap this up. So we wrap up around 11 30 I'm like, all right, cool. Say my goodbyes and I'm just like, yeah, yeah, boom put my backpack on and I call myself like leaving out of the studio like Like okay, I'm gonna get out of here before they do I get out and as I start walking And I'm getting close to the gate. I like hear him come out and I'm like, oh he got up that quick. Okay, so So I like duck off to the side. So he can't see me walking I'm like, okay. I can't let them see me walking just the perception. I'm like, I can he got he got to think I'm I drove up here and so I'm like duck off and as he draws by I'm just gonna I'm like And he drives out of the gate. I'm like cool. Boom. So I'm like Booking it booking it sweating to the to the to the Hollywood and Highland station And as I pull up They let the gate down. They done running the to the train for a night I live off of magnolia and denny in north Hollywood. I didn't have enough money For a cab there was there wasn't over what even running in I didn't have no money for a cab. I'm like Well, I guess we walk in north Hollywood Then I'm walking alongside the 101 at midnight off the coango pass and I'm just like, bro God, just don't let me get here. Don't let me get here right now Bro, I get to bar him. I get to bar him. I'm like, I get to bar him. I'm like, I was like, okay I made it. There's a sidewalk. I made it to a sidewalk. No, I ain't Get to bar him. I'm like, check him on the chains. I'm like, I don't think we got enough to All right, we got enough to get to to to magnolia. So I catching cab We get to Lankershimming magnolia. No, almost to make Lankershimming magnolia and I'm I'm watching the meat boy my boy My ball in that drink. So I'm starting to sweat. I'm kind of like This don't look like this 12 dollars is gonna get me all the way to so I'm watching the joint And we stop at the stop line. I'm like, okay. Hopefully the meter stops. The meter's still running I'm like, he starts driving and I'm like two cents away from what I got in my pocket. I'm like, yeah Okay. All right, right here right here. Right here. Let me out right here. Let me out here. He's like, you sure? I was like I'm sure sir. Do you want to promise you if you want this? If you want this money, you want to get paid if you want to get paid I think you're sure too So he left me out right there, bro. I walked the rest of the way um to my apartment and so funny enough I'm working with the same artist. Uh a few months back And I tell them the story. I'm like, bro, do you know When we were working we were first working like I told him the story His dad was out with us out at dinner with us. His dad his dad was a big manager too. His dad said Why didn't you just ask for a ride? I had an office in Henson. Why didn't you just ask for a ride? I said I wasn't about to ask y'all for no rides, sir. I said, I said, honestly, you know what? If I do it all over again, I probably still wouldn't ask for a ride because because The perception for me was I just was bigger than than than my pride, you know what I mean? So I was just like or the same weight the same as my pride, I guess But I was like, yeah, I said, I said if I do it all over again, I probably still wouldn't ask for a ride Because I wanted to I wanted y'all to just look at me as I'm you know I'm here for this and you know what I mean? You didn't need to know that I walked here from from, you know And the crazy thing is He lived in Toluca Lake Right around the corner. He definitely would have done bro. He lived in Toluca Lake literally right by Brian's oh Kind of right off legs, bro. Lived right there. But I it's it's it's so funny. So That goes back to you remember when you said, would you first get with your money that you forgot? I got a car So I wouldn't have to drive so I wouldn't have to walk or worry about not being able to catch Hey, jump out on the taxi, bro doing the tuck and roll on the taxi I pulled up one time at um Atlantic when they were off of the at the uh Diane Warren's building It's saying this was around the same time I'm taking public transport and I'm like sweating by the time I get to the session Like my manager is I was with time of faith at the time So time hits me like D. Where are you at? Like they uh, they're asking where you are. I'm like, oh, I'm almost there And so I walk in and I'm drenched sweat shirt just drenched sweat And so uh, but they nobody said nothing to me. So so I get to working So then Tom hit me later. He said I said, yeah, I said, um, I said, uh, everything went good He was like, okay. He was like, yeah, they were they were they were pressing me wondering where you were But then they said you walked in sweating and smelling like outside and they didn't say nothing They just like oh, he's he's straight. He had to get here. Yeah He went through a lot to get here. You know what I mean? But that that was right. That's how bad you were right, bro It's how bad is how bad I wanted it man. Um, and again like I wouldn't have done it any other way You know what I'm saying? This is the exact same way, but there's one other one This one's short What you do it's a it's a it's a producer that we all know That um I had just left the studio So I would I didn't I didn't see this happening But I was told about it like there's that there was a there was another this producer Kind of set up shop in at this studio like when I say shop like low-key living there like Like just kind of like we're sleeping here too And so this producer I know was working late one night And then the other producer I'm talking about I guess thought nobody else was there at the studio Like it's just him. So he had a little beat little beat down In the joint so finished doing what he was doing and uh He walked out of one room The other producer who was still working there that he didn't know is that he walks out of the room And the producer walks out butt naked with church socks on Black church socks It's another producer looks at him and they look at it. He look at each other. He look back look at each other. He said church Anything going on That's great And we all we know who this is so it's great. It's great. It's great. It's great. It's great. Turn right. What name? This is great stacey adam's hosary is that what we're doing? Crazy bro, I was like I'm glad I missed that one I missed that he was like, yeah, it's crazy bro. You done some I mean you've done some amazing work out here Thank you, brother. Uh, you continue to do amazing work. Appreciate you. Um My brother we hear you we see you and I'm glad that we're able to um Magnify and amplify that man and more importantly like put a put a real face to the name. Yeah, my man You you you deserve to be Walking in the airport and walking through the mall and people like that's that guy that did x y and z You you you deserve that man because your your your presence is of value and um, and that's why we have you here, man So appreciate you. Please Please Keep doing that. Shit. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. 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