It Could Happen Here

Executive Disorder: FEMA Teleportation, Pam Bondi Fired, Iran Ceasefire?

66 min
Apr 10, 20268 days ago
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Summary

This episode covers major geopolitical crises including escalating Iran-Israel tensions with airstrikes and ceasefire negotiations, the DHS shutdown exceeding 50 days, FEMA official Greg Phillips' controversial teleportation claims, and significant Republican electoral losses in Wisconsin and Georgia despite Trump's 39% approval rating.

Insights
  • Prediction markets and political betting are corrupting news coverage by incentivizing accuracy theater over truth, with networks like Fox, CNN, and CNBC now partnering with Kalshi to gamify political outcomes
  • Polling models are fundamentally broken because they're based on 2024 electorate data that no longer exists; massive mobilization of previously apolitical voters (especially around school board issues) is creating 13-28 point polling misses
  • School board book bans and education restrictions have become a catastrophic strategic error for Republicans, mobilizing suburban and rural voters who were previously disengaged from politics
  • The Iran ceasefire is ambiguous and collapsing in real-time, with Israel continuing strikes on Lebanon and Iran, while Trump's rhetoric threatens genocide and his administration prosecutes journalists for reporting basic facts
  • Trump's cabinet instability is accelerating after initial resistance, with Pam Bondi's firing signaling a purge of perceived disloyalists and potential replacements like Lee Zeldin being floated
Trends
Prediction markets replacing traditional journalism as primary political information source, creating perverse incentives for accuracy theater over truthMassive voter mobilization around education policy (book bans, curriculum control) driving unexpected Democratic wins in deep red areasPolling industry crisis: 2024-based models failing to account for new voter mobilization, creating systematic underestimation of Democratic performanceRapid cabinet turnover and loyalty purges in Trump administration accelerating after initial stability periodData center opposition becoming significant local political force with 50% failure rate due to public backlash on power costs and environmental impactIncreasing disconnect between Trump administration rhetoric (genocide threats) and actual policy implementation capacityGeopolitical instability creating currency and commodity speculation bubbles (oil futures, cryptocurrency toll proposals)Press freedom under direct threat with DOJ prosecution of journalists for reporting on military operationsBipartisan congressional resistance to Trump policies on immigration (dignity status) and military deployments emerging from unexpected quarters
Companies
Fox News
Partnered with Kalshi prediction market to incorporate political betting data into news coverage
Kalshi
Political prediction market platform partnering with major news networks (Fox, CNN, CNBC, AP) to gamify political out...
CNN
Entered into deal with Kalshi prediction market to incorporate betting data into political coverage
CNBC
Partnered with Kalshi prediction market for political betting data integration into news
Associated Press
Entered into deal with Kalshi prediction market for political betting data coverage
Michaels
Craft store mentioned as having similar paranormal/temporal properties to Waffle House locations
New York Times
Published controversial FEMA teleportation headline and interviewed Waffle House employees about Greg Phillips
Wall Street Journal
Reported that Iran ceasefire tolls would be paid in cryptocurrency or Chinese yuan
iHeart Radio
Podcast network distributing 'It Could Happen Here' and other Coolzone Media productions
Coolzone Media
Production company behind 'It Could Happen Here' podcast and related shows
People
Garrison Davis
Primary host of It Could Happen Here news podcast covering weekly political developments
James Stout
Co-host discussing press freedom threats and tariff policy implications
Mia Wong
Co-host contributing to episode analysis and discussion
Robert Evans
Co-host discussing geopolitical developments and electoral trends
Greg Phillips
FEMA disaster response official whose podcast claims about teleportation became major news story
Donald Trump
Primary subject of episode covering Iran threats, cabinet firings, tariff announcements, and approval ratings
Pam Bondi
Fired by Trump mid-week, subpoenaed to testify about Epstein files handling
Todd Blanche
Appointed as acting attorney general following Pam Bondi's firing
Lee Zeldin
Floated as potential replacement for Pam Bondi as Attorney General
JD Vance
Discussed Iran ceasefire negotiations and clarified US position on Lebanon inclusion
Mark Rutte
Scheduled to meet with Trump to discuss potential US withdrawal from NATO
Ron Gibson
Shot at home after voting to approve half-billion dollar data center project
Brandon Gill
Criticized the Dignity Act from right-wing perspective on immigration policy
Nancy Mace
Stated Pam Bondi must appear for sworn deposition despite leaving office
Chris Taylor
Won Wisconsin Supreme Court election by 20 points, exceeding polling by 13 points
Pooja Bhatt
Featured in sponsored podcast segment promoting her show on iHeart platform
Quotes
"It's just turning politics into like a corrupt casino. Yeah, it's just mob sports betting."
James StoutEarly in episode discussing prediction markets
"A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be bought back again. That's a Trump line."
Garrison DavisDiscussing Trump's Iran threats
"It's giving war crime. You can't do that. We don't just annihilate people because we can."
Georgia voterElection day interview in Georgia
"I was healed of cancer and it was a miracle. The podcast at the center of this controversy was part of chronicling that journey."
Greg PhillipsTruth Social statement defending teleportation claims
"Panbondi cannot escape accountability simply because she no longer holds the office of Attorney General."
Nancy MaceStatement on Bondi subpoena compliance
Full Transcript
This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed human. No gloss, no filter. Just stories, spoken without fear. A person who is not generous cannot be an artist. The world will be at peace only when it is ruled by poets and philosophers. Listen to my weekly podcast, the Pooja Bhachon on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Come for the honesty, stay for the fire. Courser media. This is It Could Happen Here, an executive disorder. Our weekly newscast, covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world, and what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis, today I'm joined by James Stout, Mia Wong, and Robert Evans. This episode, we are covering the week of April 1st to April 8th. The DHS shutdown has surpassed 50 days. Last week, House Republicans tentatively agreed to the Senate deal to fund DHS without ICE and CBP, though this agreement is stalled while Congress is out of session till April 14th. Fox News has partnered with Kalshi to incorporate its political betting data into news coverage. Fox joins CNN, CNBC, and the AP in entering into deals with the so-called prediction market. Kalshi announced, quote, prediction markets add accountability by rewarding accuracy. That's why the three leading networks have chosen Kalshi, no spin, no partisan lens, just incentives to be right, unquote. It's just gambling. It's so cool that the whole world, all media is now just ESPN. Incentives to be right. Again, like people are, there's like one of the sub markets within Kalshi is people like bringing in lawyers to make threats over like tiny differences in grammar that invalidate them either losing money or mean that they should have won the art. None of this is about what actually happened. It's becoming as much about what you can game or like threaten the news into not reporting as we talked about the week before last, with that case in Israel. And insider trading. And insider trading, yeah. No, it's just turning politics into like a corrupt casino. Yeah, it's just mob sports betting. It's worse than sports betting because sports betting is actually based on like real odds, right? These odds are completely created by users with their money. Like it's completely manufactured. There's no actual basis for a lot of these bets, right? Like the betting on the paper conclave. There's no basis for an American pope getting elected, right? There's no actual odds that were like mathematically certain. It's just created through money. Well, to be fair, the sports odds are also just kind of made up by guys too, but like, yeah, you know. Just a tiny bit. It's vibes-based. Like it's people looking at horses. There's a lot of what's happening in sports betting. Yes. Making approving or just approving. I think I saw that something close to a billion dollars was bet on oil prices as we approached Trump's deadline. We already had that just play the oil futures market. It's too complicated for people, I guess. God damn it. No, it's really bad. According to a March poll from the Institute for a Middle East understanding policy project, sampling almost 600 Texas Democratic primary voters, 76% say Israel's committing genocide in Gaza and 80% support ending weapons funding to Israel. 44% of Telerika voters said his criticism of Israel was important to them and swayed their vote. Over one in five voters, 22% said reducing support for Israel was one of their top three factors impacting their vote, while only 2% said the same about increasing or maintaining support for Israel. And 88% of voters said they agreed with the statement Telerika made during a primary debate about cutting off weapons to Israel. On Sunday night, 13 gunshots were fired into the front door of Indianapolis City County Counselor Ron Gibson, who just voted to approve a half a billion dollar data center. A note was left under the doormat that read, no data centers, quote unquote. Gibson and his son were home at the time of the shooting. Yeah, these data centers are really staggeringly unpopular. There's been a bunch of reporting on even the ones that are attempted to be built. Something like 50% of them are just not able to do it because of massive public local backlash. Because it makes life worse around them. Thank you, power bills go up, they're loud. Yeah, it's like old school environmental nimbyism, sort of like I don't want these assholes in my small town stuff. There's just like the anti-AI sentiment in general, they're hideously unpopular and this kind of stuff is just going to continue as these data centers continue to be built. Okay, time for me. So Donald Trump has said that he will discuss United States withdrawal from NATO for those who work in the New York Times as a North Atlantic treaty organization with Mark Rutter, who is the NATO Secretary General during their meeting, which will happen today, which is Wednesday, April 8th. If question mark, this happens, it would be utterly apocle. It would be one of the two things they're going to point out as like the dawning of the new era of- Yes, seismic shift. Yeah, like what geopolitics is, this is like the fundamental basis of this in this week or like ceasing to exist. Yeah, Shirley Kittleson has been released by Katipa Zbulla after they made her read a video confession in which she confessed, and to be very clear, this is very clearly extracted. Yeah, it's a co-words confession. Yes. That thing in this is true, but in the video they made her confess to passing information to US consulate in Baghdad. In one point in the video, she said she had been collecting information on leaders, but forgotten their names, which is very credible. Most real confession. Yeah, it's ludicrous. Her release came after Iraq released several Katipa Zbulla members, so it seems like a straight swap, which is what this was about in the first place, right? It's not about her or her work per se, it's about her being a trading chip that they can trade. Finally, Republican Brandon Gill has sharply criticized the dignity slash dignity dialed act recently, and this has become like something of an online discourse topic on the right. I'm not exactly sure why it's happening now. Rep Salazar from Florida has tried to introduce this act several times in the last few years. We've actually covered it when it was introduced in 2025 on this show. It's a bipartisan act to reform the immigration system that is bad. It creates what's called a dignity status, which is essentially like an underclass of people who there is no pathway to citizenship, there is no pathway to voting, but it comes with the right to renew it and the right to residency, right? So it creates like a sub-citizen class. It's bad, it is not a progressive immigration reform. But is Brandon Gill criticizing it from the right? Gill is coming from another perspective than I am. They think it gives incentives for illegal immigration, and it's an amnesty. Okay, yeah, so he's criticizing from the right. It's interesting to see the split among Republicans on this, and that's why I wanted to bring it in, right? We spoke last time about the Florida sheriff's breaking with Trump on mass deportations. There are a number of things which indicate that there is clearly a faction of the Republican party which has realized massive deportation of people who have not been accused or convicted of any crime is not a popular stance, especially when you keep killing people. On that note, actually, I have shot somebody else. This broke relatively late on Tuesday night. They shot someone in Paterson, California. The person has been identified as Carlos Eva Mendoza-Hernandez. He's wanted in El Salvador for questioning a connection to a murder. It is another of those incidents in which they accused the person of weaponizing their vehicle and there is a dash cam video which has been released which shows a person attempting to leave in a vehicle. It's a little hard to tell if the person is attempting to weaponize their vehicle but it doesn't look that way to me. It looks like that person is trying to make an exit. We have seen a number of these, right? Where federal immigration agents have shot people behind the wheel of their car. I should add that his attorney claims that he is not wanting a connection with that murder and has provided a document from the government of El Salvador which seems to confirm that. So we have once again the DHS said versus what we seem to be seeing proved out by documents, right? Before we get to Iran, which there's a lot to discuss, there is another news story a little bit closer to us that we think deserves some fair coverage. Statements made on a podcast last year by a top FEMA official resurfaced this last week. Greg Phillips who is in charge of disaster response claims that he once teleported to a waffle house in Rome, Georgia. Phillips also says he experienced a separate incident in which he teleported in front of a church. The fact that this was a waffle house does lend the story a bit of credibility. I have suspected for years there's some sort of paranormal field around waffle houses. Personally, I believe that when you walk into one, there is a small chance you could walk out of another in a separate location. The craft store Michaels has a similar energy to it. Like anyone who's gone drunk to enough waffle houses knows that that's true. So there is an aspect of the story, which is very believable, but there's some details that Phillips has included that makes me a bit more skeptical of his characterization of this incident. Let's listen to his claim on this podcast right now. We had a teleport incident, two of them, which transported me about 40 miles from where I was and near Albany, Georgia to the ditch of a church chained up at a waffle house like 50 miles away from where I was. So to defend these statements, Phillips has taken to Truth Social to share biblical accounts of teleportation as supporting evidence. Of teleportation, great. Oh my God. Employees at the three waffle houses in Rome, Georgia were interviewed by the New York Times, and they say they do not recall anyone being transported there by means of teleportation, nor did they recognize pictures of Greg Phillips. But in a follow-up statement by Phillips on Truth Social, he said he was going through cancer treatment at the time of this alleged teleportation incident, quote, I was healed of cancer and it was a miracle. The podcast at the center of this controversy was part of chronicling that journey. And during that journey, things happened that I can't explain. I was in the opening days of intensive treatment, heavily medicated, not thinking about future headlines. That context was nowhere in the reporting, unquote. I think it is important here that he says he was heavily medicated during the time around the incident. Yeah, I bet. That is true. I love how he uses cop voice, like a teleportation incident. Yeah. But however, I'm going to point out that Garrison, the next thing you're about to read, he was not heavily medicated when he said this. So... Phillips added to this truth, quote, the word teleportation was not mine. It was used by someone else in the conversation, reaching for language described something with no easy names. Which is not true. He said teleport. He said teleport. I think what he means is he wasn't his initial term that then started using it. Yes, he keeps using it. He continues, quote, the more accurate biblical terms are translated or transported. Not new ideas for people of faith. If you believe that God moves in ways we cannot fully explain, as I do, then having faith is not a sound bite. It is the whole point. I believe in miracles, all caps. God bless America, he has risen, unquote. Now, one detail from the podcast that has not been mentioned as much. I think offers to help some idea of what's really going on here. It was an incredibly frightening moment to experience yourself in your car, flying through the air. It was possible, it was real. And he was teleported in his car. He was in his car. Which for me changes this entire thing. Because the way that these headlines were kind of imagined is if his body dematerialized somewhere, rematerialized in a Waffle House. Something that's, you know, certainly. He just blacked out while driving. Which is very different. Which is very different. Robert and I went to a guy teleport in a car when we were driving around Texas. Yeah, I teleported on Xanax once. About 30 hours into the future. So the fact that he zoned out while driving and ended up at a Waffle House, much more explainable. Because many people in slightly altered states. Downright believable. Up here outside of Waffle Houses in their car. This is a very common occurrence. This is probably about maybe 10 to 30% of the Waffle House clientele shows up in this sort of environment. Where they are not operating on their full faculties either through some sort of drugs, alcohol, medication. What have you. I've seen UFOs at a Waffle House before. Right, the Waffle Houses have some kind of pole that I think attracts people like a magnet who are in an altered state towards them as like a beacon. Yeah, that pole is smothered and covered hash browns. Yes, yes. So. I'm the fact that I'm open at 4 a.m. Oh, and bathrooms you can do heroin in. Don't forget that. Says it on the sign. I also want to make sure that we mentioned that in the same week in which the New York Times, the guy who was running the headline didn't know what Nato stood for. They also titled the initial title of the article they wrote about this was and I quote, FEMA official says he teleported to Waffle House. Experts are dubious. This is. This might be the worst experts disagree headline ever. I think this is good. I actually out of out of the two poles of New York has New York Times headlines this week, the data one is is iffy. This one fully I fully agree with. I fully agree with their their choice to say that experts are dubious about the teleportation. This does make me sad because in New York Times is also the outlet that ran what is in my opinion the best headline ever written. It was about the fact that more. Oh, that one's good. OK, it was other subject of a scientific study which looked at more eels and their ability to climb a ramp out of a pool to eat some food, which proved in theory that more eels could hunt on land. And the headline was when an eel climbs a ramp to eat a squid from a clamp, that's a more. Titled from a better time. Yeah, yeah. What a different era. Truly a masterpiece. Yeah, yeah, whoever wrote that. I hope you're doing well. We will now teleport to an ad break and rematerialize to discuss the back and forth ceasefire, not ceasefire with Iran. 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All right, let's let's try and do this in chronological order because this week has been bonkers. So let's start with last Friday when you last listened to Edie, if you listen to David release them. Good Friday. And that is kind of important because a United States Air Force F-15E strike eagle belonging to the 48th fighter wing, crashed in southwestern Iran last Friday after being hit by a man-pat. The man-pat is a shoulder fired surface to air missile. The plane carries a pilot and a whizzo. WSO is an acronym. It means weapons systems officer or weapons systems operator. I'm just going to call them weapons officer just to make it easier for everyone going forward. And both crew members safely self ejected from the plane. The United States very quickly launched a massive CSA that's combat search and rescue operation involving helicopters, low flying aircraft and close air support from both MQ 9 Reaper drones and 810 aircraft. During this operation, in which the aircraft flew within small arms range of the ground in Kuzhestan province, several aircraft were damaged. One of the Jolly Green two rescue helicopters was hit with small arms fire. An 810 Thunderbolt crashed in the Strait of Hormuz and the pilot was recovered. Another was hit and the pilot ejected over Q8. But this effort did result in the safe recovery of the F-15's pilot, but not the weapons officer. The following day that happened during the day, right, in daylight hours, which is remarkable. Like it is extremely rare to see this happening, right? Like low flying helicopters over what is notionally enemy territory in the middle of the daytime. On Easter Sunday, the United States launched a huge operation which resulted in the recovery of the weapons officer. This was preceded by a disinformation campaign, which hoped to make the Iranian state believe that they had extracted the weapons officer by land, which they hadn't. The operation involved a ton of special operations forces assets who flew to an agricultural airstrip outside Isfahan. This seems to have gone largely unremarked upon in the reporting. There is some like crackpot theory that this was all cover for an operation that extracted enriched uranium from Isfahan, because there is a nuclear research facility at Isfahan. I have not seen any evidence to support that, but I think it is likely that they knew of this agricultural airstrip because of plans which were made for a potential raid on the Isfahan nuclear research facility. During the operation, MQ9 Reaper drones bombed quote, military age males who were close to the airmen. Iran had offered a reward of $60,000 for capturing this person before the United States got to them. And it is common for people in this area who like, if you're herding animals, right, to carry a gun, like to protect their animals or to protect themselves. There were some kind of propaganda videos of like local people looking for the airmen, right? They were carrying like Iranian flags and their like antiquated bolt action rifles. But it's also very possible that some of these drone strikes may have occurred against people who were just going about their business in the region, right? Like if they didn't, they said military age males, that's a broad remit. And anyone who would doubt that being a shepherd would be a military age male, right? Would be a military age. Yeah. Yeah, this is like one of the most sickening terms that US warfare is invented. Yeah, military age male, it's like anytime people are using that, like you got a dozen passes, nift tests. No, it could be anyone from to like 14 years old to like 69. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You'll be surprised who looks like an adult when you're a scared man with a gun. Yeah, or looking from thousands of feet up on a drone camera, right? Yeah. It's a term invented for we are just going to start shooting at random people. We have no idea who they are. We're just going to kill them. Yeah. And it's hideous. I was recently rereading, I think it's called A Theory of the Drone. It's a philosophy book about drones and drone warfare. And there's a scene in the opening of that, which I think is, which you can probably get the free preview of the book if you have a Kindle and read that scene. But it's very illustrative of how vague this term can be. The rescue operation saw the planes land at an airstrip. Then a little bird helicopter took off, collected the airman who had been evading captured in mountainous area. He was then carried back by a helicopter to the airstrip, where the two larger aircrafts that had bought the helicopter and all the personnel had become stuck. Incredible. Yeah. I mean, I guess normally they would do some kind of soil sampling, but I think there probably just wasn't time. Yeah. So the United States elected to destroy those aircraft in place and send three more aircraft to recover their personnel. And we can see that Iran has published footage of that, right? It seems that they also destroyed the little bird helicopters. I've seen some reporting that the little bird helicopters were just like on a one-way flight, that they flew into Iran knowing that their range wasn't long enough for them to fly back, and that they always planned to destroy them. I don't think that's the case. I think they got them out the back of the C-130s and assembled them quickly. That is a thing they have the capacity to do, and that is what makes the most sense. So on that same day, Easter Sunday, kind of a big deal for the Christian folks, Donald Trump truced the following. Quote, Tuesday will be power plant day and bridge day, all wrapped up in wine in Iran. There will be nothing like it. Open the fucking straight, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell. Just watch. Praise be to Allah. Up. I love the president. Yeah. Yeah, that is a, that is a leader of the free world. Yeah. My extremely low stakes conspiracy is that this was not Trump. This was written by Trump's staff because it's slightly off. It could have been. It doesn't sound like him, really. Yeah. He's not normally a swearer. Like he gets angry. Yeah. A lot of stuff isn't really him. No. That's a weird thing for him to throw in. I very easily believe that this is, that this is him like going nuts on something. Yeah. Like he could have done this. It's possible. I think there's a low chance that this was like a staff written thing. It's just, it's weird wording from him. Like it's a strange message. Although the last couple from him have all seemed kind of strange. Yeah. He is just out of it. The one he put up after the ceasefire announcement where he's like, where he puts in quotations that the Navy will be hanging round. Yeah. Yeah. That's not, doesn't sound like him much either. But also like, who else would he let write that? It's just, but it is weird, right? That does not sound like any previous Trump post. Hanging round. To say fuck in a Trump, in a presidential tweet. Like I don't know why a staff would do that. No. And I agree with you, James. These things are usually transcribed. Like usually he reads these out loud and someone writes them down and then he looks at them and then they hit post. Like that's how all of his truths were structured in that documentary. Yes. Does he dictate the capitalization? When he looks them over, like he may. Okay. Because he has a fascinating and quite unique approach to capitalization. Specifically, like there will be nothing like it is definitely like a Trump verbal tech. That's a super Trump line. Yeah. But then like the next part is weird. Yeah. But hanging round. That's not really a Trump sounding line. Okay. Sorry. It's weird. We've all been distracted. So let's talk about what he said on Tuesday, power plan day, bridge day. Yeah. He said, quote, a whole civilization will die tonight, never to be bought back again. That's a Trump line. Yeah. I don't want that to happen, but it probably will. However, now that we have complete and total regime change where different smarter and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something. Maybe something. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not so sure. Maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can happen. Who knows? We will find out tonight. One of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the world. 47 years of extortion, corruption and death will finally end. God bless the great people of Iran. Real journey that you go on. Yeah. From a civilization will die tonight to God bless the great people of Iran. Nightmare. I don't know what to make of that. Like it seems like it's just they obviously striking civilian targets. It is a war crime. Israel does all the time. We covered that last time we spoke. A whole civilization will die tonight. Seems borderline like genocidal as a threat. Yeah. And that's not borderline. I think that is. I think that's a threat of genocide. Yeah. Which by the way is also like if you say this and then kill one person, like you are guilty of the crime of genocide. Yeah. Like attempt to genocide. It's not good. It is not good. Let's talk about what actually happened. Since then, just before the deadline, a huge number of strikes hit Iran, including the Ministry of Intelligence building in Shiraz. There's some evidence that may have had some tunnels underneath it. Aerospace Research Institute, bridges and aluminium factory, Brigadier General Majid Hademi, who is the head of IRGC Intelligence, was also killed in the targeted strike. And we hit Kark Island again. Good. Finally. Yeah. Let a lot of people think that this might have been a precursor to some kind of US land operation, however. Or nuclear weapons a lot. Right. Yeah. Right. We've seen this a lot. Right. Again, when the president's saying you're going to wipe out a culture. It doesn't make me feel calm. You should assume that the president might actually try to wipe out a culture. I mean, like that is my strong stance on this is that based on what he's saying, it is not unreasonable for people to flip out over the statement. No, it's absolutely not. People should be outraged that a president said that. Yeah. They weren't really strong enough. It's really bad. It's very bad. Yeah. Like he should be hauled up in front of a tribunal like Milosevic. Like I am not on team. We should just move past this. Absolutely not. Like it's easy because everything's so insane to be like another insane thing. Everything's fucking nice. This is a guy who has to trigger for all the nukes saying he's going to wipe out a civilization. Like I would love to be the nothing ever happens. Nothing happened here. It's fine. Like don't don't yield the Trump derangement syndrome guy because it's a lot easier. But like this is not something anyone should move past. He should go on trial for like this alone, like outside of the other stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Each of these tweets would constitute a reason for trial in any previous presidency. Since then, Pakistan offered to mediate a ceasefire. And these are negotiated to where I'm going as Donald Trump was truthing. Iran reportedly made a list of its own demands. This is a translation from Persian. So like not a word for word quotation, right? It listed these in its telegram channels as control passage through the straight of Hormuz in coordination with Iran's armed forces. The necessity of ending the war against all components of the axis of resistance, the withdrawal of US combat forces from all bases and deployments in the region, establishing a secure transit protocol in the straight of Hormuz that guarantees Iranian control, full payment of damages to Iran, removal of all primary and secondary sanctions, the release of frozen Iranian assets and property abroad, and the ratification of all these items in a binding UN Security Council resolution. The parties then agreed to a two-week ceasefire. Trump again shared the news of this on True Social, kind of done reading out his True Social. I'm going to skip that one. That was a hanging around one. Very shortly thereafter, Israel began a massive bombing campaign in Lebanon. And Iran continued to launch missiles at the occupied territories. Caroline Levitt has said that Trump refused the Iranian plan. The Iranians originally put forward a 10-point plan that was fundamentally unserious, unacceptable and completely discarded. It was literally thrown in the garbage by President Trump and his negotiating team. Many outlets in this room have falsely reported on that plan as being acceptable to the United States. And that is false. So she was pretty emphatic about that. Trump attacks CNN for publishing the plan. This morning, Trump has said that the Israeli attacks on Lebanon were, quote, a separate skirmish. Israel struck Lebanon 100 times in just over 10 minutes today. They dropped whole tower blocks in Beirut. That is not a skirmish. Nah, he said they're not part of the deal because Osweiler is not part of the deal. Of course, in Iran, state media are pushing that they have somehow achieved all of their 10 points, which I think were their sort of goals for negotiation or basis for negotiation. Trump has said to one reporter that the tolls on the strait could be a joint venture between the United States and Iran, which is suggest there's some parts of this of this deal that are true that he has kind of agreed on. That are at least on the table, right? Like these are the bases, which was how they were initially reported by CNN and others that these have been accepted as a basis for negotiation. They have not been accepted whole cloth. Some people, some whom I think are acting in bad faith have said since this morning, the Wall Street Journal has reported that tolls will be paid in cryptocurrency or Chinese one. Yeah, and that Iran is broadcasting VHF messages. It's very high frequency. It's radio frequency warning nonpaying ships crossing the straight-from-muse that they will be targeted. Trump has proved he said straight-from-muse is open. This doesn't seem that. The toll is about like 2 million, right? Well, there have been various proposals. Sometimes I said $2 million. I've seen different dollar sums per barrel of oil transiting the strait. I guess it would depend if it's the US Iranian partnership, how are we going to account for the exchange rate? Everyone has to get their piece, right? Yes, the $2 million number was thrown around a lot. Yeah, and it's worth noting that the strait is not open. No, it is simply not. The number... Israel hasn't stopped launching strikes. Well, even if they wanted to open it right now, they would have to remove the mines that they've put in it, right? We don't know how many mines there are if there are. So, there are still ships going through. There's not many of them. I think it was... The number I saw for today was four. Yeah. Yeah, it is possible to go through, but four is like one of the lowest numbers that has happened since the strait was first closed. So, it is simply not been reopened. Trump says this constantly. It's down to one channel would be my guess, right? Like it's because... And then they're advising those ships, I'm guessing, or sending a pilot craft perhaps to go between the mines. Yeah, I haven't seen any reporting on how they're getting them through. Yeah, I haven't. The extent to which they've laid mines is really unclear. Yeah. Like all we know is that they have the capacity to do so and that the US has been striking craft that are set to lay mines. But like I haven't heard of any evidence of a ship getting hit with a mine yet. Right, yeah, neither have I. So, perhaps they haven't laid any or... We don't know what they've done. They may have decided that that was more than they needed to do at this point. Yeah. Yeah, and so far all of the attacks on ships have been with other more conventional weapons. Yeah, either sea drones or missiles of various kinds. Yeah, shooting them with guns in a couple of cases. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gareth, let's start with this clip of JD Vance talking about the inclusion of Lebanon in this ceasefire. First of all, I actually think, and there's a lot of bad faith negotiation and a lot of bad faith propaganda going on, I think this comes from a legitimate misunderstanding. I think the Iranians thought that the ceasefire included Lebanon and it just didn't. We never made that promise. We never indicated that was going to be the case. What we said is that the ceasefire would be focused on Iran and the ceasefire would be focused on America's allies, both Israel and the Gulf Arab states. So, yeah, let's talk about Israel, right? A country which famously loves to respect a ceasefire. Israel has continued to strike inside Iran. Yeah. It has not stopped since the announcement of this ceasefire, right? It has shown no indication of wanting to stop. It has also continued, as I said, its massive bombing campaign inside Lebanon. It seems to be the case that whatever was negotiated, the Israelis do not perceive the ceasefire as applying to them. Or at least the IDF does not, I should say, rather than the Israelis, right? And therefore, Iran does not perceive it as being obliged to no longer strike Israel. Yeah. I mean, the whole situation right now is very unclear. It is literally changing by the hour. Yeah. Like, by the time we're done recording this. Right. Yeah. So, we're recording this Wednesday afternoon. By the time this comes out Thursday night slash Friday morning, there could be a whole different situation. Yeah. Yeah. I'll try and record a pickup if we have to. But yeah, as of Wednesday afternoon, this is what the sort of ambiguity around the deal looks like and the level of compliance regarding Israel and the United States. Yeah. There are two more things I want to talk about that have been reported on the last. Obviously, this has been reported on widely because it is a threat to all of our lives. If we're going to start a nuclear war, the PAK's Kurdistan Freedom Party says its leaders headquarters, this was initially reported as home. They did send me a text that used the word home. What's that? But I think judging by what I have heard from other reporters in the region, it's better described as headquarters. It was struck with several Iranian missiles. This came after, according to Fox News, the president claimed that the United States sent weapons to protesters in Iran in January, but that quote the Kurds kept them. Now, a video of Trump addressing the issue does not explicitly name the Kurds. It does imply that. They don't have guns. You know, we sent some guns, but the group that was supposed to give, which I said would happen to my people, I said it, I called it exactly. We sent guns, a lot of guns, they were supposed to go to the people so they could fight back against these thugs. You know what happened? The people that they sent them to kept them because they said, what a beautiful gun. I think I'll keep it. So I'm very upset with a certain group of people and they're going to pay a big price for that. But the Iranian people will fight back as soon as they know they're not going to be shot and as soon as they can get weapons. This is one of the most interesting stuff I've seen. It's up there with him threatening to New Geron while flanked by the Easter Bunny. I hesitate to use the word lynchion because that word gets misapplied a lot and Kafka asks him a leak. And this is not a perfect invocation of lynchion either, but it's getting closer with this sort of... One of the more lynchion things to happen in real life. It's incredible stuff. With the Easter Jazz in the background. The crash of vibes. Yeah. As there's like flowers over the archway. Yeah, I think Kafka... No, this sort of juxtaposition, which I think is the key part of lynch is the surreal with the mundane. And you have parts of this here where you have the sort of intensity of the stuff Trump's talking about with the Easter Jazz and his purple tie and the Easter decorations in the background. This is a stunning piece of media. Stunning piece of history. Good. I saw this yesterday and I thought I need to expose my colleagues to this. Like one of the most incredible 30 seconds of video to come back to the topic at hand. Various rogelati groups have denied this and it would be an extreme logistical challenge to provide weapons to Kurdish armed groups, most of whom have most of their personnel in Iraq and for them to transit those weapons to Tehran. I don't believe that that would have been something that any US administration would entertain. What guns would they give them that they don't? Because if these groups tend to be pretty well supplied with small personal arms, we're talking about like your battle rifles and long range precision rifles and the like. What they lack is man portable anti aircraft and man portable anti armor. Those are kind of some of the most precious pieces of gear to them. And I doubt Trump was offering to send that into Iran. Among other things, we probably don't want to be sending a bunch of man portable anti aircraft into Iran right now. But that's the only shit I could see these different groups wanting to take for themselves. Yeah, it's especially strange because like I watched a lot of videos of armed attacks on like Iranian police in January of this year and they were using very basic weapons to include quite a few of the PAK using pump-action shotguns. I don't think the US sent them pump-action shotguns. No, that would be a weird... The US military doesn't have a lot of pump-action shoddies just laying around. That's not like the first gun they'd have a bunch of to hand over to somebody. They probably got more AKs than that. Yeah, and like there were AKs used as well. But like these are very basic weapons as you say. Like this doesn't seem like anything that would come from the US. Also in Kyrgyzstan, the Iranian drones struck Zar-Ghazawi village, killing Musa Anwar Rasul, age 39, and his wife, Musta Asad Hasan. Their children both survived. This is really heartbreaking and like there were really horrible videos of their children like confronting the fact that they are now orphans, right? And because of stories like this one, which I do not see any basis for in fact, Kyrgyzstan is being absolutely hammered by Iranian bombs, right? Little children are losing their parents. And like I'm really disturbed, as I say every week, by the campus tendency to ignore this or to say that it has to happen because the Kurds don't have a state or even the sort of blue wave tendency to sort of hand wave this and say, well, Donald Trump started the war, so Iran gets to murder Kurdish civilians. Like I just find it so heartbreaking. 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Listen to my weekly podcast, the Pooja Bhatt show on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Come for the honesty, stay for the fire. All right, we're back. We still have three or four important stories that we're going to do here before we close. James, do you want to start with your section on the threat to press freedom? Yeah, so I think this is important. President Trump has said that his DOJ will seek to prosecute the person who, quote, leaked the information that the F-15's weapons safety officer was missing and evading capture in Iran, quote, we're going to go to the media company that released it, and we're going to say, national security, give it up or go to jail. Trump said, quote, the entire country of Iran knew that there was a pilot that was somewhere on their land that was fighting for his life. It wasn't a pilot, it was a weapons officer, but airmen, right? I can't quite find who broke the story because it's not really a story that broke. It didn't require anyone to leak anything to know that someone was missing because the wreckage, and without seeing the wreckage, people weren't really willing to publish the story, right? Because they had no confirmation, and Iran says, wild shit all the time. The wreckage was photographed and published by presumably Iranian sources, and it very clearly showed the livery of the US Air Force F-15 based out of Lake and Heath, which is near Cambridge in the United Kingdom. There were some very early reports before we saw photos that the plane shot down was an F-35, and that would have been a single-seater, right? But as soon as the images came out, everyone knew that wasn't the case, it was an F-5 Strike Eagle. Yeah, and there are single-seater F-15 variants, but I don't believe any of them are active duty US Air Force. Strike Eagles will always have two people. It's not a single-seater, right? So nobody had to leak that information for it to be obvious that if they had collected one person, then there was still one person. This does represent quite a serious attack on the First Amendment. People are killing and dying over Iran, and our tax dollars are supporting that. Have a right to know. Journalism has played a role in the way Americans perceive conflict for very long time, right? We can think about the Napalm Girl photo. I understand that photo now has disputed authorship. We can think about Walter Cronkite, the Vietnam War. We can think about Abba Greyhib. There is no federal press shield law, though, and journalists have been held in contempt for refusing to reveal sources on that security issues before. This is a serious threat, and it's one that I think everyone should take very seriously. Yeah. Well, and it's a very important part of the last little section of the Newsroom TV show. There's a whole plot line about this, and it shows... Yes, yes, yes, Garrett, there sure is. So I just thought that's worth mentioning. You guys have told me not to watch that, so it'll make me angry, and I've respected that. You should not, James. You will lose your mind. It's not good for you. There's a lot of stuff that's making me angry right now, so I'm going to give that one. Too much sorkin at the moment is very quickly becomes toxic. Too much sorkin has really fucked up a lot of people in this country. Yeah. Speaking of things that'll really fuck you up, our beautiful tariff music. Tariff on like it. Rockin Casper. Rockin Casper. Tariff on like it. Rockin Casper. Rockin Casper. Ah, so glad that we're back to talking about tariffs. So, okay, we have a couple of Ron-related tariff things. Garrett, are we playing the nightmare clip? We had to play the nightmare clip. We're playing the nightmare clip. Okay, this is... When inevitably in the course of humanity, they have to make a museum to explain to people what capitalism was, this is what they are going to show. This is a clip from the quote-unquote news agency CNBC. Deadline that President Trump has set, APM, has threatened to destroy a civilization. How does an investor process that? Is it a bigger upside risk or downside risk? Big upside risk or downside risk to genocide? How do we do that? She kind of looks up and then just goes right in. Like when they have to explain to people, right, like how eight billion people were like consumed into these like roles that they were forced to inhabit by the machinations of capital, this is going to be the one. Oh, God. Turns out the markets responded very positively to Trump's threats to destroy a civilization. It's, I, you know, what if we didn't have market? What if there wasn't a line? I, oh God. Okay, so speaking of bad things, I guess. So on Wednesday, Trump posted on Truth Social quote, a country, capital C, country supplying capital M military weapons to Iran will be immediately tariffed on any and all goods sold to the United States of America, 50% effective immediately. There will be no exclusions or exemptions. So can he do this? Yes. Key nine listeners may remember that the legal authority he was claiming to have to do this, the Supreme Court made go away. So can he do this? Look, okay, the way he's describing this, right, sounds like he's using trade authority. It may be that buried somewhere deep in the annals of like sanction policy or some shit. Maybe there's something I went through all of the trade authority that I know of to try to find any legal authority for this. The short version is there isn't the long version is okay. So I guess in theory, maybe if you squint, right, you could use session 301 of the 1974 trade act. But that's supposed to be a national security risk from unfair trade practices. So it could technically work. But the thing is, you also have to that specific one, we've talked about this on the show before, that you have to like set up a commission and do a trade study and there's like all this stuff. So it can't work immediately. No, and Trump doesn't seem like a big set up a commissioned guy. I mean, well, they actually have done this for China already. But I don't know if you squint really hard, like if you really, really squint at section 232, maybe in theory, no, if you're really willing to believe that the president has the ability to be like, this is what the law says, then maybe the only way I can see this working is if he invokes section 338, which is the this is like the remaining part of the Smoot-Holly tariffs now. Famously good, smooth. Yeah. So like, okay, there is a small chance that like you, the listeners may have heard of the Smoot-Holly tariffs. And that's because it's the one that like made the Great Depression worse. Yep. And no one's ever used them since it's not even clear if they're on the books anymore. Because in like this is a legitimate thing of academic discussion, just like whether these are even still in effect, because they haven't been used. They're technically still there. But also, no one has like ever used them. And also, there's been like, subsequent laws regulating trade. So I don't know, there's no there's no way he can do this legally that wouldn't immediately fall apart, or wouldn't fall apart eventually to a court challenge, except maybe the like Smoot-Holly like nuclear bomb desperation thing. I don't know. It's very unclear to me whether any of this is ever even going to be attempted to be implemented. He shouldn't be able to do this. It's just Calvin Ball bullshit. But who knows? Yeah, it would be China or Pajimis, what he's going for there, right? Like China's so weapons to Iran. Yeah. And like, there's also a lot of speculation. Like, I think Reuters reported this, that this might be a thing because there's going to be a trade summit with Beijing. But if you're a trade person in Beijing, you also know that he can't do this. So it's not real leverage. I don't know, nightmare. Let's talk about some relatively fun, I guess, news back at home. Interesting, certainly. Yeah. So one of the things that happened this week was there was a series of elections. And the result of those elections was the Republicans got absolutely hammered, like all up and down the ballot in Wisconsin, they did, they performed terribly in Georgia. So the big Democratic win was in Wisconsin. So polls had Chris Taylor, who was the Democratic candidate for the Wisconsin Supreme Court, up by about seven or 8%. Chris Taylor won this election by 20. Oh, wow. Yeah. There was also a full sweep of the whole, like moms for liberty, school board slates in a bunch of elections in very conservative Waukesha County. The specific one where every single one of them lost and they've fully cleared out all of the monster liberty people was a very specific one that was famous for doing a whole bunch of these right wing book bands and stuff like that. And they're they're all gone. And this is, this is, you know, a continuation of a trend that we've seen over the past couple of years, really were like year, year and a half, where all of these weird monster liberty weirdos just get clobbered. Now, also in that same county in the actual, like mayoral election of Waukesha, like the city of Waukesha, the Democrats won that election, which they haven't done in ages. Yeah, this is like one of the biggest Republican, like, stronghold victories of like they will always win this seat. Yeah. You know, this is something that like everyone from Wisconsin has been talking about, which is if they can't win here, they can't win Wisconsin at all. Yeah. There's no way. Right. And again, like, you know, I'm going to get into this more in a second, but like, the Democrats were projected to win this seat. And this is obviously a by election. And this is this the Supreme Court seat that they won is like them getting to five to so it wasn't like the majority seat in the way that the last one of these elections were. But they were projected to win by like seven and they won by 20. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's big. Wow. Which is astonishing. Part of again, you mentioned the a bunch of these like school board elections in Wisconsin. Yeah, it's not just Wisconsin. I mean, in a lot of the most conservative terror to the most conservative counties in Texas over the last like year, basically every school district that was taken by the Moms for Liberty types has been completely like they have been completely thrown out. And that has been happening around the country. There's a lot that people are focusing on when looking at like, why are numbers so fucking dog shit for Republicans right now? Right now, why are they getting beaten by such wide margins? And it's certainly way more than one thing is responsible. But I think something that has not gotten enough attention that has been dooming the Republicans electorally is that they got what they wanted in the branch of the the chunk of our government that is hardest to ignore for the average American, which is like what's happening to their kids in schools and a bunch of regular people who were not all that political saw that like my kid can't like check books out any the fuck is wrong happening here. And they went crazy. They got really pissed off rightfully so. And I think this is going, my hope is that this turns out to be one of their worst like strategic missteps in this period of time is their belief that we can just go fucking ape shit on schools and no one will care. Yeah. Well, and this brings me back to something I've been talking about for a while, which is that so like what one of the other results that we're sort of looking at here is so there was an election in Georgia in this like as a special election for the seat that was Marjorie Taylor Greene's old district. This is like one of the most unhinged Republican districts in the entire country. Trump won it by 40 and the Republican Clay Fuller did win, but he only he won by 12 points in a county that Trump carried by 40. Yeah. Yeah, that's as well like a 28 point shift. Yeah, right. It's unbelievable. Now, obviously, they didn't win here, but there's been a lot of stuff about how, okay, well, this is just because Democrats, Democrats do better among high information voters. Those are the people who vote in these off cycle elections that aren't during the normal election cycle, blah, blah, blah. There's a lot of this kind of stuff. That's a kind of stuff that puts you ahead as as the polls were showing in Wisconsin that puts you ahead by like seven that does not that does not explain a 13% overperformance. Yeah, yeah. Right. And I think what is happening here is something I've said consistently and this is something that I think Robert is sort of explaining why this is happening is that pollers are still using, they're still using as their basis for what they assume the elector is going to be, they're using the data from the electorate from the 2024 election. Yeah. Because that's the standard practice, right? You use as a sample, you know, and you make some like adjustments because it's a by election and stuff like that, but like they're using as a sample base of voters, the people from 2024. And that electorate does not exist anymore because it's been completely destroyed. Yeah. Right. All of these people have suddenly been mobilized. Like the whole city of Minneapolis has been like turned into this like weird, I don't know, I'm making that sound negative, but it's like, like there's like Minneapolis has had a level of mobilization that is like possibly has never been seen before in US history. All of these like people who had been, you know, just like not political at all are and this is the other thing with like the school board elections is that these are mostly people who were not political people at all who just swept in because they like their schools got fucked with the entire electorate has changed. It shows there's like a deep fluidity here, right? There's a lot of people who supported Trump because of economic conditions, which were blamed on the Democrats and they moved for Trump. And there was a lot of these same people are not like Trump or Republican loyalists. They're reacting to the economic conditions and the messaging from each party. And this is reflected in the note, the number of Trump Zoran voters, even the number of people who vote Trump and AOC in New York, right? Yeah. They're not like mega loyalists, right? But it's showing how there is a big fluidity among among the types of people that do decide elections. Yeah. But then there's all there's also, and this is I think the other side of this too, right, is that there's one people who haven't voted, George just didn't give a shit at all. And those people are suddenly being mobilized. And this is turning into like, like the Democrats are like winning a whole bunch of like rural counties in these elections, right? Yeah. Yeah. And now the last thing I want to talk about in sort of this kind of section of everybody hates the Republicans is that the issues and incites TIPP survey for April shows Trump with a 39% approval rating. This poll, which is done a bunch of times every year, they give they give like a bunch of topics where they give a through F rankings from like immigration to the economy to like the wars in Iran, Ukraine. And like a plurality of the votes were an F on every single one. Even immigration. Immigration was the one that was kind of close. Okay. Between that and like a every single other one was down double digits. Okay. If you look at like, CDF versus like a B or if you like ignore C, right? It's so much more in the category of like Ds and Fs on the negative side in general. Yeah. Yeah. Like this is for every single issue. I'm guessing it was kind of a binary distribution, right? Like a lot of A's or a lot of F's and not much. There's actually a surprising number of B's, but that's interesting. Yeah. And like a decent number of D's. But yeah, it was like mostly F's and then everything else is kind of spread out between the other ones. I mean, all of this is before the like, I'm a civilizational diet tonight stuff. Which did cause negative reactions from people in the conservative base. Yeah. And the people voting in Georgia and Wisconsin. I want to play this clip here. This was a clip from Georgia of a Georgia voter who was interviewed on election day. It's giving war crime. You can't do that. We don't just annihilate people because we can and you know, make a grab for the money and the oil. And that's what we've done in Venezuela. And that's what we're doing in Iran. It's giving war crime. It's a giving war crime. I need to take a second. This is a beautiful deal. It's positive. Yes. That's the embedded message that the Democrats have managed to come up with on this. No. This is great. This is like a woman in her 30s or 40s holding a kid at 9... This broadcast was at 9.33 in Rome, Georgia on election day. Yep. It is. It's giving war crime. Yeah. And you know, if you look at that like the Yugovakanmas poll, which is from like April 1st, but like even at April 1st, he had a just an atrocious 35% approval rating, which is that's like that's like end of the Bush administration. Shit. All of this, the important part of this is that like the Democrats are still really historically unpopular right now because everyone's pissed at them for not doing anything. But the actual mass of people in this country fucking hate all of this. They're pissed off at everything that is happening. Anything you ask about that Trump is doing, they are fucking angry about. And you know, this is this is this is the kind of anger and the kind of just generalized rage that I think there's no really good way to measure outside of the tools that we've developed for elections or in terms of just like, you know, sometimes you get street mobilizations like this anger, like is the defining thing of the United States right now is that everybody's pissed the fuck off about this. And yeah, and every opportunity they get to express that this shit fucking sucks, they do. This is what American politics is, even as everything is unbelievably hideously leaked from all of the shit these people are doing. Speaking of people who are pissed off, there's one final story that I'll go through pretty quick before we close this episode. Last Wednesday to celebrate April Fool's Day, Trump fired Pam Bondi as attorney general. Trump told Bondi about his plan to fire her while in the car together to watch the Supreme Court oral arguments on birthright citizenship. There's video of it. There's video of it. It's amazing. Like credit to Fox, but they got a shot of them in the limo and Trump is clearly telling her. And it's when we know he was telling her, it's an amazing little artifact. All you can make out is their faces kind of in their body language, but it rips. It's so funny. Now, Bondi tried to convince Trump to let her stay on until at least summer, but to no avail. Trump appointed deputy attorney general Todd Blanche to serve as acting attorney general until the president nominates a full replacement. On Tuesday, Blanche said, quote, nobody has any idea, unquote, why Bondi was fired except for President Trump. Those sources close to the White House have told multiple outlets that Trump had a growing frustration with Bondi for a while, especially related to her failure to successfully prosecute certain political enemies and the fallout from her handling of the Epstein files. Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Lee Zeldin has been floated as a prospective replacement for attorney general. At the EPA, Zeldin has led efforts to roll back environmental regulations and climate protections related to endangered species, wetlands and emissions. Before working in the Second Trump administration, Zeldin lost the race for New York governor to Kathy Hockel by seven percentage points, a relatively close race for New York. Zeldin is a Trump loyalist, fought against the president's two impeachments while in Congress and refused to certify the 2020 election results. Zeldin's a retired U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel who served four years in active duty as a military intelligence officer, federal prosecutor and military magistrate, and in 2006 was deployed with the 82nd Airborne Division during Operation Iraqi Freedom. Wait, so he's a troop cop, military magistrate, troop judge. He served in a few roles. Yeah, that's troop cop shit. He served as a prosecutor and a judge. The hated and reviled troop cop. Yeah, he looks like maybe he at some point went to law school there, right? He went to law school in New York either during that time or beforehand. It all kind of takes place around, because I think he got out of law school around 2004. At the time, he was the youngest person to finish law school in New York. Oh, well. He was in his early 20s. After he got out of the military or out of active duty, he briefly served as an attorney for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey and also private practice for a little bit before he went into the state Senate and then eventually US Congress. Now, before Bondi's firing, Panbondi was scheduled to testify in front of the House Oversight Committee about the Epstein files on April 14th. Now, Democrats on the committee still want her to testify as she holds relevant knowledge. But on Wednesday morning, the Justice Department released a statement saying Bondi would not appear at the hearing on the 14th, quote, since she is no longer Attorney General and was subpoenaed in her capacity as Attorney General, unquote. This is a little bit untrue. She was not subpoenaed by her title as Attorney General. She was subpoenaed by name as Panbondi. Now, Oversight Committee Democrats have responded by saying if Bondi does not comply with the bipartisan subpoena addressed to her by name, they will, quote, begin contempt charges, unquote. Republican Nancy Mace has said, quote, Panbondi cannot escape accountability simply because she no longer holds the office of Attorney General. Our motion to subpoena Panbondi, which was passed by the Oversight Committee, was for Bondi by name, not by title. She will still have to appear before the Oversight Committee for a sworn deposition. They make people deserve answers and we expect her to appear as soon as a new date is set, unquote. So it appears they will try to reschedule her for a new date. Bondi's firing is interesting in the context of Kristi Noem's firing as for the first year or so of Trump's second term, he really resisted making changes to his cabinet, right? These sorts of frequent changes were a hallmark of his first term. And for the start of his second, he seemed to not want to do that and instead got like his ranks of loyalists that he was going to work with. But since Kristi Noem's firing, that has clearly changed. And this has prompted speculation about who could be next from people like Tulsi Gabbard to Kashpatel or Pete Hegceth. I think Gabbard is certainly one of the people. If I was one of these three, I would be most nervous if I was Gabbard. Patel's an odd character. I'm really not sure what's in the future for him, a podcast. And I think that what happens eventually in Iran will determine what goes on with Hegceth. There have been rumors that some of the reason that Hegceth has been sort of purging high command in the military is that he has concerns that those people could be his replacements like alternates for him, a sect F. Yeah. Yeah. Patel was under more heat, I feel like during following the shooting of Charlie Kirk, right, the assassination and that their failure to find the assassin for some time. Yeah. And his plane tickets and his trips with his girlfriend. The failure with Savannah Guthrie too. Trump did not like that. Clip of him in the hockey locker room. Yeah. Yeah. That happened if quite a few. Now you mentioned that. Before we go, we should mention there is still about a week left of Webby voting. It could happen here is nominated for a Webby, as is James Ceres migrating to America, which aired on it could happen here. 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