Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware

Margot Robbie

65 min
Feb 11, 20262 months ago
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Summary

Margot Robbie joins Jessie and Lennie Ware for Table Manners to discuss her role in Wuthering Heights, her production company Lucky Chap Productions, and her journey from Australian soap opera star to Hollywood producer. The conversation covers her approach to set culture, family traditions around food, and her entrepreneurial ventures including Papa Salt gin.

Insights
  • Creating a positive, joyful set environment produces better creative outcomes than a tortured artist approach, challenging industry misconceptions about suffering and great art
  • Successful actor-producers must compartmentalize roles strategically, stepping back from production decisions during filming to allow directors full creative authority
  • Building production companies around trusted friendships and shared experiences creates sustainable creative partnerships that span multiple successful projects
  • Cultural food traditions serve as powerful anchors for identity and family connection, even as careers become globally dispersed
  • Diversifying income streams through consumer brands (gin) and theater production reduces dependency on acting alone while leveraging existing networks
Trends
Actor-producers increasingly taking creative control through production companies rather than waiting for traditional studio opportunitiesSet culture and workplace environment becoming competitive differentiators for attracting top talent in film productionCelebrity-backed consumer brands leveraging authentic personal stories and friendships rather than pure celebrity endorsementTheater production as alternative revenue and creative outlet for film actors seeking different artistic challengesInternational production hubs (UK, Australia) becoming more attractive as streaming and global distribution reduce geographic constraintsFemale-led production companies focusing on female-centric storytelling and director partnershipsEmphasis on work-life integration and sustainable production schedules rather than traditional high-stress filmmaking models
Topics
Film production company management and operationsActor-producer role compartmentalization and decision-makingSet culture and workplace environment impact on creative outputWuthering Heights film adaptation and creative directionTheater production and Broadway/West End opportunitiesConsumer brand development and celebrity gin productionAustralian cultural identity and food traditionsWork-life balance in entertainment industryCostume design and period drama productionEmerging actor talent identification and developmentInternational film production logisticsStreaming platform content strategyProduction company partnership structuresDirector-producer-actor collaboration modelsCareer longevity and sustainable creative practice
Companies
Lucky Chap Productions
Margot Robbie's production company co-founded with husband Tom Ackerley; produced Promising Young Woman, Barbie, Salt...
Prime Video
Mentioned in opening advertisement segment promoting Fallout and other entertainment content
Sky Elstree Studios
Primary filming location for Wuthering Heights production
Chanel
Fashion brand providing wardrobe for Margot Robbie at Paris premiere and throughout production
Deliveroo
Food delivery service discussed for fast delivery times in London compared to US alternatives
Papa Salt Gin
Gin brand co-founded by Margot Robbie and four friends; named after character met in Sri Lanka; self-funded with no c...
People
Emerald Fennell
Director of Wuthering Heights; previously directed Promising Young Woman; known for bold creative choices and meticul...
Jacob Elordi
Co-star in Wuthering Heights playing Heathcliff opposite Margot Robbie's Cathy
Alison Oliver
Cast member in Wuthering Heights
Martin Clunes
Actor playing Mr. Linton in Wuthering Heights; described as exceptional and kind by Margot Robbie
Owen Cooper
Young actor in Wuthering Heights; previously in Adolescents; praised for breakthrough performance
Charlie XCX
Created soundtrack and opening song for Wuthering Heights with distinctive artistic vision
Tom Ackerley
Margot Robbie's husband and co-founder of Lucky Chap Productions; skilled cook and producer
Greta Gerwig
Director of Barbie; collaborated with Margot Robbie on casting Emerald Fennell as pregnant Barbie
Ava Pickett
Playwright of 1536 production at Almeida Theatre; described by Margot as best new writer
Emily Scott
Recipe creator for salmon dish served during episode
Quotes
"I don't agree that you have to all be tormented in order to make good art. I think there's like a weird misconception that if it's not this tortured experience, nothing great's going to come out of it."
Margot Robbie
"I've been working for a really long time, you know, I've been doing this full time since I was 17 on Neighbours. I quickly recognised that I was always going to be spending the majority of my life on set. And I don't want the majority of my life to be unhappy."
Margot Robbie
"It's like getting a tattoo. If you take it too seriously, it's kind of cringe. Have you got any tattoos? Only silly ones, which is what I really believe in."
Margot Robbie
"Producing takes up all of my time. It's not acting that takes up my time. Acting takes up a chunk of time but then you're like I'm done with the job. Producing is 24/7 every day of the year."
Margot Robbie
"I don't think people need to be miserable to make good art. Do you think you learned that from kind of more negative experiences or did you learn from somebody that you felt like I like how they lead a gang?"
Jessie Ware
Full Transcript
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Because last time you got drunk. Yeah. Yeah. No, I still got drunk, but it's fine. Okay. Went to a really cool new club in Peckham called Palais. Wow. Which is fab, so that's exciting. So, yeah, I feel absolutely wrecked, to be honest. And then I've been trying to cram for this guest that we've got today, who I'm very excited about. Because, you know, these are her ends, so it feels only right that she's coming home. She's back in her own hunting ground. We've got Margot Robbie coming on today. I hope she's hungry. I'm sure she's tired. She was in Paris last night for the premiere of Wuthering Heights there, and her train is delayed, and she is coming straight from the Eurostar to here. She's on her way. I'm sure she's hungry. Yeah. What have you made, Mum? I've made salmon with fennel and clementines. So the salmon's going to be baked in the oven in a sauce that I've made with star anise, my own citrus vodka. I thought it was verbena. I didn't use verbena because I didn't have a verbena about my person. But I did have lemon peel, which you put in a jar and it's been marinating for a week. Wow. And then it's going to go on the salmon, that sauce, and then I'm going to bake it. and then I'm going to put candied clementines on the top. Let's hope it's nice. It's a Guardian recipe, isn't it? Yes, Guardian feast. It reminds me a bit of the Ottolenghi. The Ottolenghi. Because what booze does he put in with that? Ouzo or Arak. Arak. Yeah. And then I've done a crunchy salad. Yeah. I've roasted chickpeas in my air fryer. Very pleased with those. And then you've brought one of your breads. Yeah, I have. Do you think this is a TikTok? I think it's a decent one. it's got a good rise on it I made another one this morning that had been in the fridge for just under 48 hours and it had lost its height so this one that sounds great it's I think it's gonna be okay it may not be as sour because it's only had like 14 hours oh but never mind you could be talking Chinese and I'd understand it better I don't know nothing about baking sorry I'm just And you're a baker now. I'm not gal. No, it looks okay. You just never know until you cut through. Looks fabulous. Thank you. And then for dessert, I've made a Middle Eastern eaten mess. Yum. So it's got pomegranate, strawberries, pomegranate molasses, sumac, mascarpone and sour cream. Have you made this one before? I have, but I don't think I did it as religiously as I did it this time. And I made meringues last week, so that's why I've made it, so I could use the meringue. Oh, great. Sounds delicious. I hope so. So Margot's coming on to talk about Wuthering Heights, which stars her and Jacob Elordi and Alison Oliver, Martin Clunes. And revelatory Owen Cooper, who was in Adolescents. Oh, Owen Cooper is so good in it. Yeah, he's so great. And directed by Emerald Fennell, who's been on the podcast before, who we loved. Anyway, we went to see it. I've thoroughly enjoyed it. The costumes, the sex. Yeah, a lot of sex. The Mawls. Charlie XCX's soundtrack. A lot of sex. I can't wait to talk to Margot about it. And a lot of sex. Margot Robbie coming up on Table Manners. Margot Robbie, as I live and breathe. Thanks for having me. You look fabulous. You don't look flustered after having a very late Eurostar. I just got it. I love getting the Eurostar. Did you eat? I just love it. um I actually ate only a little bit good um because I thought that we were going to be eating yeah yeah and I almost got the whole meal and then I I stocked myself and just had a bit of cheese and bread and cheese and bread a bit of chutney and that was it saving myself how are you after the premiere last night oh good it was so mega like it was like a huge theater in Paris obviously called the Rex and it fits like two and a half thousand people so it was massive like Like, I don't know if I've ever, I've never seen a movie with that many people at the same time. But yeah, it was so, it's a stunning theatre. And I had this huge Chanel gown. Oh, it looked amazing. Oh, I loved it so much. I felt like a princess. And it was great. Yeah. And then we went to the Sacre Coeur afterwards and did like a photo and it was raining, which it rains a lot in Wuthering Heights in the movie that we're promoting right now. So it was actually perfect. It was really fitting. Yeah. did you and your bosom catch a cold when you were shooting a lot of heaving bosom in that movie we love it as uncomfortable as corsets are oh my god there's that really good shot of when you're getting married felt like Rose in Titanic mother being like you will marry Billy Zane I quite like that scene actually can we cheers yeah we can welcome home Cathy Yeah, back in Clappon. My old stomping ground. Whereabouts did you live? Was it this side? I was on Clappon Manor Street, the other side. So if you went across the common a little bit, like to the right from here, I think. Yeah. Wait, so do you both live here or one of you lives here? She was brought up here. I was brought up here. This is your family home? Yeah. But I don't live here anymore, but we're near enough. We almost live together. Yeah. Not quite. Well, you're doing this often and often. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah. How much has Clapham changed since, I mean, I was living in Clapham. Just more restaurants. More restaurants. Good ones, though. Yeah, I mean, we've got Abbeville Road here, and that's got great restaurants on it, or places you'd like to go. I feel like you and Miriam Margulies are the people that really change things for Clapham. Yeah, yeah. Were you here when Narduli's was open? No. Was that the ice cream place? Is it not open anymore? No. When it had it opened by then, it's... In Old Town. On the pavement in Old Town. Oh, that amazing right across from the common there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I love that place. The best ice cream. The best. Yes, no, I get that a lot. It was delicious ice cream. Yum. So which places did you go to in Clapham? Did you go to a pub? Nothing terribly reputable. I was 24 at the time. It was probably my heaviest partying year was my Clapham day. So there was a lot of infernos. Well, actually, that's a perfect segue. Is it? we've got something a little gift from us better than an oscar oh my gosh the envelope's beautiful i'm gonna read it this certifies that margot robbie is officially recognized as inferno's royalty amazing entitled to unlimited cue jumps and guaranteed access to our carpeted dance floor valid forever signed with love infernos that is amazing if i take this to inferno's are they going to be like what the hell is that yeah i think your face will do enough but i think you're fine and you can stick to the carpet even oh absolutely i love the car did you have your did did infernos the nightclub which as a clapham person i've always actually avoided which i love that but i love that i understand that i'm from a place called the gold coast in australia and it's known for surface paradise and like if you're from the gold coast you don't go to surface paradise okay you've got it well you did actually when you're 18 but then once you got out of that I would have gone Surfers Paradise just for the surfers. You would think the surfing is actually better elsewhere, I'd say. But it's a big party. What about the surfers? Surfers. There's surfers everywhere on the Gold Coast. Everyone's a surf. Oh, okay. Fair enough. It's like embarrassing if you don't surf. Oh, okay. You kind of have to. But no, Infernos was actually the reason we lived where we lived. Oh, my God. I love you. Because my roommates, one of them I'm now married to, but we ended up getting married. But at the time when we were just roommates, we were just mates and a bunch of us, we went to Inferno's and they used to tell me about this place. The two guys that I now also have a production company with. Anyways, they're like Inferno's is the greatest place in the world. So you only had to turn left at the end of Cap and Manor Street. Well, we didn't live there. But we didn't live there yet. We were doing a job in Belgium where I met them and they said they would tell me about the infamous Inferno's. And they're like, this place is so fun. You can't get kicked out of there. That's why it's so great. You can do anything Infernos and you can't get kicked out. And I was like, wow, that sounds like paradise. And so we all, you know, had a weekend in London when the job was done and, of course, we went to Infernos. And within about 15 minutes we got kicked out. And while we were getting dragged out by security, I was screaming, but this is Infernos. You can't get kicked out of Infernos. And the bouncer was like, look, we allow most things, but when your friend does, then we kick you out. And I was like, okay, fair enough. Have you been kicked out of many clubs, Margot? Most of the clubs in Clapham, I'd say, have kicked us out. Yeah. For a while, we were banned at a number of places. Was Cafe Soul still doing, like, music? Yeah, Cafe Soul. That's where I used to go underage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like at midnight, it suddenly changes from, like, a lounge bar to, like... And you stopped eating crocodile nuggets. Sort of. I mean, it was vodka revs back then. Oh, yeah. It was, like, a random place with, like, honky-tonk bar or, like... Oh, have you ever been to a mosquito bar? No. that's that's when that's when inferno kicks you out then you go to mosquito bar it's it's so then you move to clap and manor street so sorry you couldn't live yes that's yes i mean it's revolting but kind of brilliant you always end up there yeah yeah well i um so we we uh ended up all deciding to move in together to finish that story and um i had gone back to america at that point and so we're looking online and the guys were like oh it's a sign this place is down the road from Inferno. So we literally signed our lease just because it was down the road from Inferno. And did you go swimming at the swimming pool? The swimming pool? Oh, on Claminer Street. Yeah, we used to go there. Yeah, me too. Oh, it's lovely, isn't it? Like the leisure centre. For my atcliffy. And there's a good, what was the good pub on the end there? The Bread and Roses, is it? No, next to Bread and Roses, Crafties. Crafties. And then Stonhouse around the corner. Stonhouse. It's really good, yeah. Always go to Stonies. Is that called the pig's head now, Mum? No. No. Some houses. Still there? Yeah. That's good. Yeah, it's been a while. My clapping days were a long time ago. And then the off-license across from our house was our, you know, we made friends with Johnny. Shout out to Johnny and Neil who ran the offie across the road from us. You them both. They never believed. Oh, they'd come over to our parties. They were great. And they never believed I was famous. I invited them to a premiere one time when I did a movie with Will Smith. And I was like, Johnny and Neil, I'd love for you to come. I've got a premiere. Do you want to come? and they were like you and I was like yeah I'm they're like in the movie and I'm like yeah I'm in the movie I showed them the invite and I was like that's me that's my face they're like it's not you that's Will Smith I'm like that's Will Smith but next to Will Smith that's me and they wouldn't believe me and I was like just come to the premiere and see for yourself they didn't come but anyways they know now they know now that I you're kind of that I work that I work in the movies and sometimes we go back and visit just to say hi I love that yeah it's lovely um you you You spend some time in the UK still, don't you? In London. I'm here a lot, actually, because things shoot here so often. That's nice. And so it's, I know it's perfect. So I end up back here and then you're like here for a long stretch. You know, when we did Barbie, I was back for like a year. Oh, did you? For Wuthering Heights. Yeah, shot that whole thing here. I mean, we did some, we did a couple of weeks on location in California, in LA. Oh, yeah, the rollerblading stuff. The rollerblading and all that. Hard to, hard to mimic that in the old common. But, yeah. And then Wuthering Heights we shot here. Where did you shoot Wuthering Heights? At Sky Elstree Studios. And then we went up for the location stuff to the Moors in Yorkshire. I mean, it was so beautiful. But they made it look different, almost more dystopian. What, the sets? Yeah. Yeah, it was like Emerald, our director Emerald Fennell, wanted it to feel like an old, like a 50s melodrama, like a stage movie. Like she wanted it to feel like you were on stages. Like on a set. Yeah. Yeah, so it's like a slightly surreal world, slightly heightened, more heightened when you go to Thrushcross Grange. Yeah. But still heightened at Wuthering Heights in a different way. And then, of course, with location, we were like, well, we have to go to Yorkshire. That's where the book takes place. We had Emerald here. Did you? Yeah, years ago. Oh, my gosh, she told me. She said it was lovely. She's fab. I know. She's amazing. Well, the reason, do you know, she's actually in Barbie as well. She's the pregnant Barbie because when we were doing Promising young woman so we've produced all three of her films and the first one was promising young woman and she was like seven months pregnant when we started that job so she was like had the baby right after we wrapped sort of thing so I mean she's superhuman but uh then when she was winning her Oscar for that screenplay she was pregnant again and I remember Greta being like it's like she's always pregnant and then when we were like we she Greta was like I've got an idea let's ask emerald to be the permanently pregnant barbie and barbie um because of that and you know they they you know like love each other and and and so emerald and we were shooting salt burn right as we wrapped barbie and so my first ad who was andy our first ad or mothering too would be calling me being like we've got to do tech checks and you've got emerald coming in to be this pregnant barbie like this is we need to be prepping salt burn i was like i know both are important both are important but probably soul bone is more important for her. Margot, you've had a few gorgeous leading men. I've been quite lucky at my time. You've leapt out, my God. You know what? The thing that I really appreciated about this interpretation of Wuthering Heights was the sex that they introduced really early on. Because you don't get that in the book. No. They don't so much. I'm reading it at the moment because I'd never read it. Me neither. It's fantastic. it's got that emily she's talented that emily yeah but don't you think it's like i can't believe that book was written in that time like in the 1800s they would have been shocked but it's also just the structure of it's so interesting and yeah and she was 27 when she wrote it and she was dead by the time she was 30. do you become best friends with all your lovers on screen i kind of become really good friends with everyone i work with like you spend so much time together like day in day out and you're all it's like you're at this summer camp and you're all i don't know you all become friends not not always not everyone but kind of everyone and especially on this job too like it was such a good gang that yeah you just do um it's it's sad when of job but I also think that's probably due to how you want your sets to yes be because you know everyone that talks about Margot Robbie says what a laugh you are how talented and what a great person you are to work with and all of this right but you're creating this environment right because you the producer yeah and you heavily involved so yeah do you feel like you are a leader in those on those sets that you producing and starring in Yeah and I just don agree that you have to all be tormented in order to make good art I think there's like a weird misconception that if it's not this tortured experience, nothing great's going to come out of it. And I've been on sets that feel very tense and not fun, and there's a lot of that tortured artist vibe happening, and the film wasn't that good. And then I've been on sets that are an absolute delight. joyful every day and the film is excellent so it's like why not just all have a good time I don't think people need to be miserable to make good art do you think you learned that from kind of more negative experiences or did you learn from somebody that you felt like I like how they like lead a gang or do you think it was from your family I don't know I don't know I think I just like you know I've been working for a really long time you know I've been doing this full time since I was 17 on Neighbours Was that a happy ship? Oh, the best I had the best And look, sure I'm sure some people didn't enjoy their time on Neighbours but I had the best time ever and everyone I worked with seemed to be Was Madge alive then? No, Madge wasn't with us at that point But Harold Harold was Toadie Dr. Carl The whole gang No, I had the best time ever But, you know, I quickly recognised that I was always going to be spending the majority of my life on set. And I don't want the majority of my life to be unhappy. I want to be happy and have a great time and do what I love. And if I can do it all at the same, you know, at the same time. Does the bath thing drive you mad? You know, you've got to get the hair right and the makeup. What are you making, by the way? Oh, yeah. It smells so good. It does smell good, Mum. It does smell good. It's so good. Yeah, I've been squeezing into these dresses. No, yeah. God, no, you can let it all out today, Margot, and everything. No, I wore a comfy outfit. This is very fabulous. Is it Chanel? It is Chanel. Oh, my God, I just love you're in a little lounge as Chanel. And it's so comfy. Will you keep that one? Glorified pyjamas. Will you keep that one? No, I have to give everything back. It looks so nice from you. What do you mean? Every time you wear something, you have to give it back. Don't you? Chanel are good to me. They send me a lot of bags and whatnot. Are you wearing Chanel tomorrow? I am not wearing Chanel tomorrow. Do you mean to the premiere? Yeah. Wait, premiere's not tomorrow. No, it's in a few days, yeah. But no, I am not. Who are you wearing? I'm wearing Dallara, I can never say her last name. Do you know this really cool designer? Dallara Defongaluma. Is she the one that won the British Fashion Awards? I think she did. Yes, and she did that incredible, like, stained cherry outfit. She is, like, an artist. Anyways, she's made me a dress made out of hair. Oh, wow. Out of hair. and it's so I'm hoping fake hair I'm hoping it's not real person hair but it's fitting for the movie did you see the movie? yes yes and we loved it I know it's quite something me and Alice are just looking at yourself and being like this is just what we needed on a Friday morning thank you so much I really enjoyed it I know me too I love it I think people are going to just have a good time Anyways, do you remember the opening credits? And it's the hair. So that's actually my hair that then they replicated and did this. Like Emerald was, we were on the street in Soho and she was like, I need some of your hair. And I was like, all right. And I just ripped it out and like gave her a little bit of hair. And she was like, well, what am I going to do with this? I was like, you just asked for it. And she was like, well, not now. I have to walk through Soho with just clutching your hair. How much did you put out? It was like five strands or something, not too much. anyways um so she put it in her pocket and then went and worked at this stop animation and they kind of replicated it and the opening yeah that Wuthering Heights thing is with my hair I think that's what we're tying it in with the dress but that's what I found so interesting I think we everyone I didn't know what to expect we've seen the poster it looks very you know it's passionate it's you two looking into each other's eyes we've heard some of the music by Charlie and then that opening shot of I don't want to give anything away it's crazy opening though it's fantastic and I was like and then you're like you're like okay yeah okay this is the way we're going yeah it's a bit of a tone setter it's a bit of like a shock to the system it's like and also like buckle up this is the movie you're in but I really I was excited by that it was really it was a fantastic I know and Charlie's song to it is like it was fantastic it kind of gets your blood pumping in a way yeah I've got goosebumps yeah It's so unexpected and I think she's done something really amazing with her album and all the music she's put into the movie. But that song in particular, because I was like, oh, what are we going to open with? And use temp music and stuff. And then when she sent us that, the John Cale voice, I was like. It was throbbing. It was literally throbbing. It was perfect and unexpected. I'm going to give you something to eat because I think it must be starving. Thank you. thank you yeah the and then the score anthony willis who's just incredible jesse you take charge of this his score is quite classical you know it's like it's like a proper movie score movie score so blending actually blending it all together was a fun challenge no go on is this the asmr part of the show where everyone's like no that's when you start slopping salmon in your mouth well speaking of fish wow there's a very visceral shot in the um there is indeed Was that your idea or emeralds? Emeralds. Is she a filthy bitch? She is. And I love it. She's a big drill to be referred to as such, to be honest. She tested probably 50 fish before we shot that. She wanted the exact right consistency with the jelly. Thank you. Do you like fennel? I love fennel. This is delicious, Mum. Is it? The candied orange or whatever. Delicious. Tell us. What is it? It's salmon with... right so it's salmon I made citrus vodka because I mean it's a bit of a reputation so it's citrus vodka and clementines and orange juice and honey and that's and then you put it on the top with dill so I hope it does taste it's really good mum that is phenomenal I may do this for Shabbos dinner on Friday so you're a good cook too Jessie she's better than me I think Really? No, I just, I'm invested in eating. I'm very invested in eating. I'm a terrible cook. Really? Can you tell us about a memorable dish from your childhood? And like, who was around the dinner table? And what were you eating? I've got a lot of siblings. And my mum is a terrible cook. And she won't mind me saying that because she's aware. And I'm a terrible cook. And we both just know that this is our shortcoming in life. so no, no one was ever like oh mum, please make that but very simple food pretty much everything was accompanied by mashed potatoes, so it was either bangers and mash, rissoles and mash spaghetti bolognese too with mash? no, didn't double up on the carbs there did you like your mum's spaghetti bolognese? I just love spaghetti bolognese I love anyone's spaghetti bolognese and I love it when people make you spaghetti bolognese because everyone does it different and it's kind of like a yeah, it's like a little personal thing they're sharing with you but my husband is a phenomenal cook well done, well done he could be a chef if he wanted to he's so good so it's, yeah, we're like a perfect match I love to eat, we love to cook do you know what? I didn't know he was a good cook until after we got married hang on, you lived together what were you eating? yeah, we were not, this was a share house with seven people crammed into a four bedroom share house in clapham so there was not the kitchen was not used for cooking the kitchen was used for body shots and whatnot but so i didn't even know he was a good cook and then we were married and you know finally lived our roommates were finally like we shouldn't all live together it's weird now that you guys married you were still yeah we got married and then you stayed in the house quickly and then we kept living with our roommates not in clapham we moved to shepherd's bush and then um yeah then our roommates were like it's kind of weird that you're still living with roommates when you're married and we're like is it it doesn't feel weird and they're like yeah you guys should try living on your own we're like okay and then we went and lived on our own and um that's when he started cooking yeah then he started cooking and my god he's really good at it um what's tom what's what's the dish that like you you would if we were coming over to yours you'd be like wow make that i think a fun one for guests is when he makes like this like um like lamb kebabs because it's like you get your hands into it and he's like, he cooks it on the big green egg and then he makes like different chili jams and then it's like all the accompaniments. And the one does a pita and like bread in the Gosney and he's got all the kit. Oh, I love Gosney. He loves the kit. At least he knows how to use his egg. He absolutely does. Oh, you know, he'll crawl into bed at like 3 a.m. sometimes and I'll smell like it. I'm like, you've been with the egg, haven't you? I'm like, what are you doing down there? Is there some brisket, 16-hour brisket on the way? That's so attractive. I know, I love it. He gets up in the night. You can cook in her nose. You can smoke a brisket. You can. Yeah, mum, that's the thing. This might revolutionise the show. But my husband, God love him. He's cute. He's a lovely, great dad. He's shit on a barbecue. And he thinks he's good. Oh, oh no. No, it's a shame. He thinks he's quite good. Should you gently? No, no, don't worry. I do, Margot. Get him a little cook in class. No, I mean, I just go, let me do it. But bless him. but yeah the i think the egg is very hard to master so respect oh no no you gotta have a lot of patience this is my problem this is why i can't cook i've got no patience really i just try and shortcut it and then something lights on fire and it's you know what's been really good for me because i am also really impatient and sourdough has been like my yoga i don't love making it but it does something to me where i know it's therapeutic yeah yeah i've never found that zen space in the kitchen fair enough i'd like to though so mum wasn't a great cook mum was not a great cook who was around the dinner table i've got two brothers and a sister so us four and mum and uh no she wasn't a great cook and she was like you know a single working mum with four kids so quite busy so it was just kind of like she's a physiotherapist oh wow wow she worked at um Yeah, special schools with kids with disabilities. She's an angel. I want to talk about your aunt. Okay. Is it Aunt Mezzy? Mezzy? Yeah. How do you know Mezzy? Well, I don't know it. Oh, I don't know Mezzy. I'd love to know Mezzy. Oh, Mezzy's a great time. Oh, Mezzy. Yeah, no. Mez is a hoot and you would love her. This is why I wanted to talk about it because I listened to you on a podcast and you talked about Aunt Mezzy and it sounded so gorgeous. So I felt like, you know, it's about family and food and I felt like Aunt Mezzy needed a shout out. Mezzy should always get a shout out. J-Mel Mez, so my uncle J-Mel, my aunt Mez. I've been married since they were teenagers, I think. Very Australian. Like my accent is very, very, very neutralised, I would say. Now? Yes, now. Was it stronger before? Oh, my God. It was terrible. When I started on Neighbours, I did not sound anything like this. When I started on Neighbours, they got me a dialect coach. because my accent was too Australian for neighbours. So, like, can you give us an old Margot accent? I don't even know. I don't even know. Have you taken it out of your mind like you can't ever go back there? Well, the thing is I didn't know I had a strong accent. I thought I sounded totally fine, so I can't even hear what it was. And my younger brother found, like, a video online not that long ago and he sent it to me, and it was with my, you know, while I was on Neighbours. And I honestly was like, that's not how I spoke. That is terrible. and that's after the accent coaching. And I was like, yeah, I don't know. It's just so bad. I can't even. Yeah, it was really, really Australian. But Aunt Mezzy. But Aunt Mezzy. Aunt Mezzy's just the best. Aunt Mezzy loves a rum and coke, loves doing a crossword. Yeah, she can bake. I'd say the best cook. The best cook in my life really is Tom. but I would say um you know meals are always the thing that brings everyone together isn't it what's his spag bol secret ingredient oh yeah he spends two days making it oh my god he's that guy he's a two-day spag bol do you find is it are you just like babe I just wanted spag bol two days ago yeah no every time I'm like I'll just eat it like this like I honestly don't mind it's gonna taste brilliant to me he does a three-day fried rice it's really really makes you wait with like this Korean short rib with it. Oh, it's unbelievable. What? And he does steak better than any restaurant I've ever been to. Steak, I'd say, is his. Okay, so what's his trick that he does? I don't know. You're useless, Margot. This is unhelpful. I mean, listen, I know he puts it in the oven and then does a reverse sear in a skillet pan. In the oven? And he does oven first at the moment and then reverse sear. And he puts, like, butter and rosemary and stuff in the pan, And then pours it over the steak. Yeah. Yeah. And it was banging. So if, okay, we weren't coming around to yours, but probably are because it sounds delicious. Yeah. Where are you eating? Where are some of your spots that you never go wrong? Like restaurants? Yeah. Do you know what I love? I love Thai food and Chinese food. Me too. Oh. We have a lot of Thai and Chinese in Australia. And I know Indian's probably the bigger go-to here in England. Have you got a house in Australia too? No, but I want to live back there one day. I just stay at my mum's house. As we do. We all come home in the end. You do. I think it would be really... I have no reason to live in Australia, but I do think it would be a really beautiful place to bring up kids. Yeah, just like going to the beach and everything's outdoors. I asked Tom, you know, when I hear about his childhood, I'm like, what would you do after school? He'd be like, oh, we'd just, you know, crowd around the radiator and play video games. I was like, that sounds so miserable. He's like, yeah, it's just cold all the time. And I was like, oh. He's like, what would you do? And I'm like, we'd build a rope swing and jump into rivers. Like, it was just like outside. Wow. Jessie watched Neighbours. I watched Neighbours. You got an idea of it then. So tell me, where's the Chinese spot that you're going right now? Take us to. My go-to is Minjang. Where is it? I've never actually been there. I just get it on Deliveroo. Oh, okay. And it travels well. Do you know what's crazy about Deliveroo? What? It gets to your house so fast. In America, we've got something called post-mames. Hopeless. But you're waiting like 70 minutes. Yeah. Here, sometimes I order like my Chinese and it's at the door seven minutes later. I'm like, how is that even possible? You know, I tried yesterday. I like a fad trend TikTok thing. I did the viral dumpling lasagna. Babe, it's really good. A dumpling lasagna. You make, yeah, you make like the insides of a dumpling. My kids are obsessed with soup dumplings and dumplings. Love soup dumplings. When my four-year-old is sad, I go, would you like me to do dumplings for dinner? And he goes, yeah, like that. Anyway, so I did, I did, I mean, no, itzu do fabulous ones in the freezer. They're fabulous. But anyway, this, you get pork mince, you put some spring onions, ginger, garlic, soy, mirin. And then you just layer with like gyoza or wonton wrappers on top. And it's like that. And then you pour some water and then you steam it on the hob. Babe, delicious. Everyone ate it. Heaven. And it worked. It was fab. Very exciting. Very fun. All the kids ate it. Maybe I could pull that off. You could pull it off. If I was to ever have a cooking show or cookbook or something, I always thought I'd call it Bogan's Delight. And it would be all the Bogan things that I grew up eating which are very very simple things to make Even someone like me can go wrong and it delicious I was very much a bogan growing up though I did not realize it at the time But we have, you know, classic bogan things like in our house. Well, first of all, which is quite bogan, but also makes me think of home. We have five C's, which means at five o'clock you sit and have your like a little cheese board, but it's not a fancy cheese board. I think that's quite chic. I know it sounds chic, but when you look at it, it's cool. We have like a bowl of nuts and bolts, which is just like an assortment of like a bit of nutric grain in there. A curry. Mezzi makes actually. Mezzi makes the best nuts and bolts. You've got like certain nuts, but mainly you've got cereal in there and like some dried like Asian noodles and then like a curry sauce over it. Do you have anything like this here? Hang on. Hang on. It's not a dry. It's not a dry. Dry like nibbly sort of thing. So like a Bombay mix. Like Bombay mix. All right. Sure. Yeah, maybe that's it. So you have it. Kids have it. Oh, yeah. I have it at Five C's. So Five C's is nuts and bolts. Five C's is nuts and bolts, crackers and cheese. Before your dinner, your tea. Well, here's where we're going to fall out. I'm Australian. Yeah. It's always, cheese is always before dinner. Cheese, like, I cannot have cheese after a meal. It's so, it's like starting. So housewives again. That's very housewives. I love the hills of you. You're a cheese board before your meal. So what would be on your cheese board? What cheese? Well, if I'm back home, I'd have barbecue saccatares. Pardon? Yeah, it's like a rice cracker. Jesus. It's like you're speaking a different language. Barbecue saccatares and just classic, like just cheddar cheese on that. And on top of that, I'd cut a cocktail onion in half and pop that on top. That would be my favorite. And this is what people have every evening. And this is what we have at five. What time do you eat then? I don't know. Whenever. Whenever it's ready. In our house, it often would be late because things were quite disorganized. But your mum was working. Yeah, exactly. So it's like you making your own little snack before dinner. Yeah. But it's also like a family thing. They have a rum and coke, five seats, and lots of bulk. When did you start with the rum and cocks? How old are you? He's 12. 12. I love this. My mum used to, in order to get us to sit, I don't know if I'd share this. Let's share it. She used to give us calura milk so that we'd do our homework. Oh, my God, I love it. Jessie, this is where you're going wrong. No, I love this. Because we're running around like maniacs. And mum would push and calura milk. She drunk you. She was like, sit at the bench and do your homework. When do Australians? She's giving you white Russians. And I love white Russians. Probably why. There you go. When do Australians start to drink coffee? What age do you think? Coffee? Well, I always drink tea. I can't live without a cup of tea. Oh, is this a bit of star anise in here? Oh, yes. Sorry. Love. And she says she doesn't cook. I know. Well, do you know what I do do at Christmas time? Jamie Oliver's recipe, mulled wine recipe, which does have a little bit of star anise in it. so that's why I know what that is. Just a humble brag. You're on the cocktails then. That's your bit. Cheese board and cocktails, that's what I do. I think that's a really vital component. I think it's vital. It is. To a host. Absolutely vital. And your best cocktail? I mean, I do make a really good mild wine because I just follow Jamie's recipe and I don't make any shortcuts. Okay. I don't mess that up. I'm pretty... Do you know what? I made a martini for my friend the other day. I love a martini. Me too. How do you take yours? I do mine dirty with gin. Yeah. How dirty? Not terribly dirty. Not filthy, but dirty. Okay. Like Christina Aguilera, three R's in the dirty. But my friend has hers vodka with a twist, and I made it for her the other day, and she said it's the best martini she's ever had. Oh, wow, congratulations. And I was like, did you mean that? Because I'm really taking that to heart. And she's like, I meant that. And do you use your own gin? Yeah. Yeah. Papa's do. Why is it called Papa's salt? Well, because we're traveling in Sri Lanka. Oh, wow. Why were you travelling there? Just why not? Just for holidays? Yes, no, but it wasn't. Okay, great. I'm going on Friday. Oh, you're just showing up. Where are you going? Everywhere, I think. Starting off at Colombo, Dambula, Candelana, Candy. Yeah. Then travelling down to Goal. So we're doing... I hope you find your way to a place called Heracutica. My favourite place! Oh, my favourite. Isn't it amazing? Did you go to the cocktail bar there? Smoking bitters. I don't remember what I was called, but we went everywhere there. Piracatia is the best. And if you're, like, learning to surf, or you like to surf, but you don't surf, like, crazy waves. I feel like I was Kelly Slater, babe. You can get away for, like, five minutes. I mean, the paddling's a bit of a pain, because you're just paddling. Oh, no, I had somebody pushing me. What? No, I paid a guy. You paid someone to push you. You pushed me into the pool. Bloody hell. You don't need to go. It's a cheat. They retire you. Oh, okay, so it's the fucking surface paradise. Don't tell Minnie Driver that. I'm a Jewish princess. You're lucky that I'm even gaining the water. I can't believe you've got someone pushing you out. It's okay. Isn't that the whole point of the experience, to schlep out there? Okay, Lenny, let's see you get on a board in Hirakhetia or a hangover. I will not be going on a Hirakhetia board, darling. I honestly think you should. I honestly think I should. They're gentle waves, they're gentle waves, and you catch them for a long time, so it's satisfying. Yeah, but how do you stand up on it? Easy, you just pop up, you know. Pop up. Pop on up. I'm a long time away from popping up anywhere, darling. A long time. You don't pop anymore? Don't pop. god it's such a good place it's so great it was heaven being there food gorgeous oh yeah great food well there's this there's this place called the doctor's house did you go to the doctor's house so if you went like further down the beach like 10 minutes there's this really cool a lot of expats hang out at this place called the doctor's house at least when we were there which is many years ago now but we were at the doctor's house and we ended up drinking with these aussie guys we're from the gold coast which is where i'm from like oh yeah gold coast gold coast blah blah and we're like what brings you guys are you here for surfing they're like no we own this place this is our bar and we were like sick and then we they're like it was new year's eve and they're like kick on with us come meet my dad papa salt he's a real character everyone loves him and we were like of course and so we went and um spent the rest of new year's eve with them and papa salt and papa salt is this like he looks like santa claus on a like on a summer holiday like hawaiian shirt white beard and he's like a proper pirate like he's been shipwrecked three times like he's just full of stories, doesn't really have a set address, just kind of like pops from island to island, just living life. And we just had this great night and we, like, loved him. And then years later, you know, we made this gin and then it came time to naming it. And we were like, oh, we were trying to come up. It's like getting a tattoo. Like if you take it too seriously, it's kind of cringe. Have you got any tattoos? Only silly ones, which is what I really believe in. And so if it's funny and it reminds you of something, then it's not cringe. And so we were like, it's a cup of salt because it will always make us laugh. It'll make us think of that for years in Sri Lanka. So you haven't got Papa Salt tattooed on you? I don't, but Papa Salt has Papa Salt tattooed on here. Not Marco Wobby. So years... No, no, I wish it was training. Yet. Yet. He'd probably say... I'll have a word. Do you know, I knew that girl. She came and drank here. She did drink quite a lot on the New Year's Eve. She was fun. He can give me a run for my money. He can put it away. But he's from the Gold Coast too. Has he tried the gin yet? Well, what happened, And as soon as we decided to call it Papa Salt, we were like, we should let him know. Yeah. And one of our partners, because it's just five of us friends that make Papa Salt. There's no company behind us or anything. It's just self-funded and we do it for fun. But kind of like dad of the group, Charlie, was like, there might be some legal shit here that we should check on. Turns out there's not because it's a nickname. but I was like yeah but I still want to let him know and so we're like how do we get in touch with the guy we got drunk with years ago in Sri Lanka at a beach bar and our friend Caddy was on a surf trip at the time in Sri Lanka and I called her I was like I bet she's out here at Katia Bay and then I called her and I was like are you at here and she was like yes and I was like this is perfect I was like can you go to a place called the doctor's house she was like I was there last Saturday night and I was like perfect go back look for a guy that looks like Santa Claus on a summer holiday and when you find him if you find him facetime us and so we get this facetime from caddy a few days later and she's drunk with papa's soul and she's like so and it's both of them facetime and they're like and she's like he's the best and we're like i know i know i put him on and we're like papa salt do you remember us and he's like oh g'day yeah of course i do he's like g'day margo we're both from the goldie and we're like we made a gin and we want to name it after you we want to name at Papa Salt are you cool with that and he was like yeah cool that's great like not phased at all like as if he gets that phone call once a week he's like yeah sure whatever he's like I've got and we're like is there anything that you know you want to go over or any questions you want to have time to think about it blah blah he's like no no no oh one question one question we're like yeah sure sure like oh this is a bit where we need to get lawyers involved or a contract or something And he's like, can I make T-shirts? And we were like, yeah, of course. He's like, yeah, okay, cool. And we're like, anything else? He's like, no, that's it. And I was like, all right, sweet. Well, we'd like to give you a lifetime supply of Papa Salt. And he was like, yeah, all right. I'm more of a rum drinker, but we're like, all right, well. And now he drinks Papa Salt. Like we have to ship, we have to find out how to get like gallons of Papa Salt to wherever. Like last time we checked in, he was in Vanuatu. We have to, like, figure out how to ship, like, illegally ship, essentially, proper salt to it. Where can you buy it? Well, here in England. Yeah. Anywhere, really. Yeah. And then... In LA? No, not in America yet. Just Australia and England, really. And Fiji. Wow. Cool. Mess. Have you got another film project up and running? About 10, probably. Well, we have a production company, so we've got a lot of things in development constantly. And you never know what's going to happen next. oh do you know it's exciting though what a play is coming out here in London soon which one it's called 1536 have you heard of it no where's it being shown oh my god so we've jumped on board to produce this too and really it's more of a supportive producing role because it was already ready to go what's it on it's gonna be at the Almeida oh amazing no I have seen it advertised so you're producers on that first time lucky chap have done theatre production second time actually okay we did a off-Broadway show in America called Big Gay Jamboree. You know Titanic that's playing here at the moment? Yeah, I loved it. It was meant for us. So fab. So Marla Mindell who created that with a friend of hers also wrote this thing called Big Gay Jamboree. Yeah, Titanic started on off-Broadway didn't it as well? So okay, amazing. And so that's how that happened. But now 1536, yeah, Ava Pickett wrote it and I think she's just the best, honestly, I think she's the best new writer there is right now. And it's so good. I think it's the best play I've ever read. It's about three women living in a village at the time that Anne Boleyn was beheaded. Oh, wow. And it's kind of about the effects, the ripple effect of that happening. So it's 1530 when it's set. It's 1536. But it's so good. It's honestly, it's the best play I've ever read. Would you have liked to have been in it? Yeah. Could you be in it? Maybe if it goes to Broadway? I think I might be a little old for the characters. I don't think I could. Babe, you just played a 17-year-old, so you're fine. No, but Kathy's not 17 in our movie. How old is... Yeah, no, she's not. No, she's like... You look incredibly youthful, babe. Thank you so much. No, in our movie, Kathy, in Wuthering Heights, she's like mid-20s to early 30s. Okay. Because the movie kind of spans over like six years. Well, you've got the kids part. Oh, we should talk about Owen, of course. We should. Did you? So, I'm just wondering... The adolescence wasn't out when we started. Yeah, you must have been like... Is that what you were going to ask? Bada bing! like when adolescence happens. It's just bizarre because like so often people say like, oh, overnight sensation. And I've always been like, that's not the reality. No one's an overnight sensation. But it was an overnight sensation. Like no one knew him. We were working, you know. How did you find him? We were midst of shooting. He was doing his thing, right? Because when he was in adolescence, so I nudged Alice and I said, oh, it's the boy from adolescence, isn't it? And this sounds terrible, but I was surprised because I wondered if that was all he could do. No, no, no. And so that was the most uplifting thing because he was so good. So good. And so... And Charlotte, who plays the young Cathy, she was in the West End production of Matilda. Not as Matilda, but she's... They're both so brilliant. And honestly, the movie wouldn't work if they weren't as good as they are. It makes you feel so connected with him and emotional about him. Yeah. And his love for Catherine from such an early age. Can we talk about Martin Clunes as well? Martin Clunes! No one in America seems to know Martin Clunes. And everyone, I'm hoping everyone hears, is going to be like, hi. He is. He's fantastic. He's astonishingly good. Yeah, exceptional. He is my dear old papa. And also just the best man. Like, I just love him. Have you ever met him? No. We've never had him on this. Have him on the show. Yeah, we should. He is a hoot. I love Mr. Linton. Oh, my God. He feels so horrible. I know. And he's got a tough role because, like... He's not the most exciting character. He's the solid, kind one. He's so kind. It's funny. I had a bachelorette for Kathy. I didn't have it. My friends threw a bachelorette for Kathy, the character, which sounds ridiculous, but it was really fun. Did you have Willie's drawers? We had all the things you'd see at a bachelorette, yeah. Do you have a stripper? Did Jacob come and be a stripper? That would have been fab. No, Jessie. Jacob did not come as a stripper but we did have strippers and they were amazing what theme was it? they did classic magic magic classic, love that darling I'm thinking of my 75th oh yeah Lenny you may not make it to your 76th do you know what if they'd themed it it wouldn't have been as sexy it would have been funny but like I remember on my real hen do back when I was getting married back in the day um i love harry potter and my friends got no my friends got a stripper and made him do harry potter oh my god that sounds a bit weird it was so funny and not sexy and like this guy's like in a robe with the glasses and the scar and he's like you know all the innuendo that you can imagine and it was very very funny but um i mean we're all so drunk it really didn't matter to be honest but but yeah no when they did the classic magic mic performance it was like wow that's that's I want to go to one of your parties I mean we all know about this 24 hour 24th birthday party we ended at Mosquito Bar that I mentioned earlier where else do you go at that hour have you ever tried to do one how old are you now? I'm 35 have you ever tried to do a 36 will you do a 36 hour one? god I'd love the challenge I would like to know if I could do that 75 hour party you need a lot of drugs Lenny so many drugs would be required No, I did my 24-hour party with no drugs. I was drunk, obviously, just booze. And what, like, snacks? I guess so. I don't remember the snacks. Chit. I think we stopped at Five Guys at some point to get a burger, a bit of stamina. I wanted to know, you know, you're a producer, you're acting in this. Is it ever hard to wear all of those hats when you're... Are there any kind of limits where you're like, you know what I need to focus on being Kathy right now I can't think about like the DOP and like this or is it always is it all kind of all-encompassing all the time or do you have to be strict with how you share your time I don't find it hard to compartmentalize but I'm conscious that the director needs to see me as their actor you don't yeah I don't think as a director you want your actor who you want your actor completely thinking about their character not about overtime and swapping locations and penalty payments Doesn your husband think about that if he producing his wife Well, my producing partner Josie is the lead producer in all of Emerald's films, so Tom wasn't on set for most of this film. But yeah, Josie's running the ship. I don't need to be running the ship. And we kind of orchestrate things so that I can step back about two weeks before the shoot. and I keep in like I'm conscious of everything that's happening and I check in like in lunch break and after work and all that kind of stuff, cost reports and blah blah blah all that stuff but no decision is going to be held up because I'm on set for example like everything is going to keep moving without me being like yes I agree or don't agree or whatever like that When you did I, Tonya, did you train? I did a lot of training but I couldn't start training until I'd finished I did a film called Goodbye Christopher Robin right beforehand and when you're contracted to a film you sign a contract saying i won't partake in any dangerous dangerous activities or activities that could get me injured and it becomes a whole insurance thing so i had to keep waiting until i as soon as i wrapped then i was like five years skated before not really yeah yeah well her balance is but i did a lot of rollerblading as a kid like i'm the kid of the 90s so lots of rollerblading i think that helped yeah i did a bit ice skating when I got to America. I have a really burning question I've been dying to ask you. Please explain a prime mortgage. Listen, do you have a bathtub I can jump in? How to short loans I can get really, no, I mean, I, those lines were like, it's much gibberish to me. I remember trying to make sense of it all. I was like, I don't know what I'm talking about. Because I still didn't understand. No, me neither. Good. Okay. Charles Randolph, who wrote that script is an exceptionally bright man and um as much as i was like charles explain it to me one more time i was like you know what i'm just gonna say the lines and you tell me if it's reading right okay um when are you gonna direct because it feels like the next step i don't know i really want to i really really want to producing to be honest producing takes up all of my time it's not acting that takes up my time acting takes up a chunk of time but then you're like i'm done with the job producing is 24 7 every day of the year it doesn't stop and it hasn't you know we've been running the company for 11 years now so it's like for the last 11 years i've never not been actively producing so good for you no i know it's been great it's been great but it's um yeah i need i need to figure out how to step away from that more so that i can make space for trying to do you think you'd be able to do like a yentl a barbara where you like produce oh my gosh direct and stuff no i would never i don't know how i've spoken to a lot of like actor directors and been like how do you do both it just sounds inefficient like to do a take and then go back to the monitors watch the take yeah make the adjustments and go back instead of you're thinking about time finishing i'm like yeah just you got to keep you got to jump straight back into it so i don't know how i could do it and not be like this is not efficient I don't like a not efficient set I like I need a set to be like just because I mean one a silly thing to do but once you know your day cost if you divide that by the minute if you sometimes I think I'm like if actors only knew like when an actor takes more than two minutes to come serve an actor makes you wait for 20 minutes I'm like you just wasted 60 grand okay so for dessert I've made a Middle Eastern eaten mess oh because I think Australians like meringue. Yeah, we have pavlova. We pretend it's Australian. It's actually not Australian. But we embrace it like, are you joking? Absolutely. What makes it Middle Eastern? The rose petals? It's got pomegranate. Yes. Pomegranate molasses. And sumac. Oh my gosh. This is incredible. Do you always eat like this? Well, we do for the pod. But mum has always been a really cute... She's always made the left. Oh my gosh. Yeah. I like the pomegranate. Mmm, it's really nice. It's like a Turkish July eaten mess. Oh, it's so good. So, last supper. Margot Robbie, let's go. It's funny, I always ask this meal. I call it death row meal, but last supper is nicer. It changes often. But today, if I had to have my last supper today, I've got a banging cheese board to start. I know, it's not religious in this country, but for us that is part of the course. With what says things in it, not noughts and crosses. Noughts and bolts. No, not a bogan cheese board. I would go like full European cheese board. I want like the triple cream brie. I want quince paste. I want some like good crackers. I want a blue cheese. Of course, I want a cheddar in there as well. A gruyere or something fancy. and like a really good white burgundy with that. I even read, no, white burgundy. Just a love of white burgundy. Main, I'm thinking, I'm tempted to go with my husband's spag bol or I'm going to go full Christmas dinner, like all the things. Well, Aussie Christmas dinner. Aussie Christmas dinner. So is that a Barbie on the deck? Well, you do often have prawns, but the main meal is ham. So a ham at Christmas time is integral. There is no Australian Christmas lunch or dinner. Turkey, it's like, sure, maybe if it's there. But you're not really thinking about the turkey. You're thinking about the ham. And the ham is cold. It's a cold ham? No. The funny thing is it's actually a cooked ham, smoked ham, but then you put it in the oven essentially just to heat it up and then you serve it hot with cranberry jelly. But to tell you a little segue side story for a second here. Hit me. I never realized it was a pre-cooked ham. I always thought when I was putting it in the oven or when whoever was putting in the oven for like, you know, three hours-ish, that that was cooking the ham. No, that's just heating the ham and it's a big piece of meat to heat. So my first Christmas over here in England with Tom's family, his whole family, I was like, I'll do the ham, everyone. Uh-oh, I've got it. And everyone was like, oh, okay, right. Anyways, so I went to the butcher and I was like, can I get a leg of ham, please? And he's like, what do you mean? And I was like, a leg of ham. and he's like, like, gammon. And I was like, sure, gammon, sure. Gammon means pork, means ham. Yeah, sure, gammon. So he gives me a giant, like, 12-pound thing of gammon. And I was like, all right. So I take this. I, you know, go to Christmas with his entire family. That really isn't too difficult. And we're at his brother's house. So they've hired and they rented an oven and put it in the shed out the back because there's not enough space. Obviously, you know, the kitchen's tiny and the oven was tiny. And so I was like, where can I put this ham, this gammon, out in the shed? I was like, all right, righto. And I was like, I only need three hours. I got there three hours early. Put it in the shed. Put it in the oven. Took it out after three hours. We all sat down for three hours for a ham, a completely raw piece of gammon. It's probably another at least three times. It's not cooked at all. It's raw. Just a raw piece of cake, essentially. Did your husband not get involved as somebody who likes to smoke his meat? No, he wasn't. I don't know. He wasn't really. I think he was just letting me have this moment. He's like, you do you, hon. And then we all sat down and I remember watching his grandma with a piece of raw pig essentially going towards her mouth. And I smacked the fork. I was like, no. And I smacked her. It looked like raw meat. I know. I was like, I'm back to kill Granny Miller. Smacked her out of her hand. I was like, no one eat that. I'll be back. And I was like, shit, shit, shit. put it back in the oven. I was like, oh, I don't know. Anyways, Christmas dinner went on. It was fine. We had other things to eat. But like. And we forgot about the gammon. Oh. And we all got drunk. Yeah. Because, you know, it's England and it's Christmas. And then it was perfect. And then at midnight, we're off our tits and suddenly we're like, it smells like something's on fire. Oh, no. I've forgotten. That gammon's been in the back shed for nine hours. Oh, shit. And was it cooked? It was on fire, to be fair. But once we put out the fire, it was delicious. Underneath, heaven. Okay, good. Absolute heaven. Delicious. We ate it at midnight. It was great. The Robbie method. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Light it on fire. But yeah, now I know it needs to be a smoked ham. Yeah. Oh my God, that's brilliant. Okay, so we're going maybe Christmas minus your ham. Cheese board, Christmas with the smoked ham. Yeah. Mashed potatoes. Mashed potatoes? Oh, absolutely. Is that because of your mum? Because your mum. Jessie, do you know, I think we're the only country that really has roast potatoes the way we do them. In America, they have mashed potatoes with their Thanksgiving meal. I think a roast here, it's like you have to have roast potatoes to have it be a roast. So, yeah, I get it. It's a big thing for you guys. It's not like that all over the world. They'll have sautéed, but it's not a roast potato. I think a roast potato is overrated. With dauphinois. I mean, although we don't really call it dauphinois. That's kind of like a here thing. Grattan? I don't know. I don't know. the bogan and me we just called it potato bake potato i like that how'd you get the word bogan where's it come from i don't know do you know what bogan nachos is no so this is by the way i know i say it weird you say nachos i say nachos and i don't know why but oh we talked about nachos no what do you call it i love nachos and i don't even think all australians do that okay but what i always thought growing up what i thought nachos was was a packet of doritos no first you get the alfoil do you call it alfoil here or do you call it aluminum foil like we call it just foil foil tin foil tin foil okay tin foil we call alfoil you put that down on a baking tray packet of doritos yeah tin of baked beans baked beans grated cheese chuck it in the oven let it all melt that's what i thought nachos was like that's about your That is Bogan natros. And it is delicious. I bet it is. So good. Gosh. Australians love an abbreviation, don't they? Mm. What did I disagree with you? Al foil. No, we didn't. Aluminant, aluminium foil. Ambo. What do you call? Oh, no, it wasn't an abbreviation. Stonhouse. Stonies. Stonies, yeah. The Ambo. Love it for the ambulance. Ambo? Just an O on the end of anything. I love it. Did you love Colin from accounts? I haven't watched it. What? Oh, no. I know. But I know it's brilliant. Oh, babe. Go on, take my passport off. I don't deserve it. Very Australian. Babe, you should watch that on the plane home. You'll be like, oh, my God, babe. I know, I already know I love it. Oh, so good. Do you know what very British show I love? Gavin and Stacey. Oh, it's gorgeous. It's really gorgeous. Our equivalent is Kath and Kim. Did you ever see that? I love Kath and Kim. I've watched that. But Gavin and Stacey, just the best show ever. Just makes me so happy. Did you see The Christmas Bash? Of course I did Oh it was gorgeous I watched it twice I would miss it for the world Absolutely love it I um Do you know I had a dinner Not that long ago And I was sat next to Bette Midler Which was a big dinner Oh my god Shut up I know She's royalty Royalty She was Unbelievable Okay So kind So amazing Also like First Wives Club Is very important to me As a film So I was like I can't believe this is happening And you know Hocus Pocus And everything Whatever But I was telling her About Gavin and Stacey She was kind of like Being like What should I look And I was like Honestly Gavin and Stacey is like one of the best Did she watch it? Do we know? I sent her the whole DVD package afterwards and she was like wrote me an email being like don't worry I already started watching it after I heard you talk about it and I was like I'll watch the rest on the DVDs now but I yeah She's very sweet She's on my top three, her, Larry David and Barbara Streisand so yeah Great list. Thank you. I hope that happened Yeah thank you. Okay so how are we finishing off this meal? Oh, okay. Have you got a sweet tooth? Do you like ice cream? Lenny, you read my mind. I was literally about to say, I'm an ice cream fiend. I eat so much ice cream. Who are you eating? It was the only thing my mum could really threaten me with. Violence wouldn't work on me, but she threatened me to not have ice cream. I'd be like, I'm your slave. I'll do whatever I need. First flavour you'd buy. There is a place in America called Salt and Straw. I know. Oh, yeah, it's good. Yeah. Did you have the sea salt caramel ice cream? Yeah, because Hannah made me have it. Okay, is it the best? That in a waffle cone. Oh, God. Done, done. That's it for me. Before we let you go, I don't want to because you are... I know, this is so lovely. I'm just a day for a while. You are just as fabulous as everyone says you are. Nostalgic taste that can transport you back somewhere. Mashed potato. Really? Yeah. I've spoken about it a lot tonight. And when you're, as you say it, off your tits, do you sing karaoke? Oh, I love a bit of karaoke. Okay, I do too, but she hates it. do you know i used to i i don't like it if i'm not with friends like i wouldn't do karaoke if there's like people there that i don't know like i'm not going to get out and get up and belt it out in front of strangers so which song share believe oh that's my set i do a bit of shit i do the shit i'm like you i like i get into the wow that's amazing yeah I was about to jump in and make the mistake of actually reenacting. No, no. I thought myself just in the nick of time. It's a very euphoric song. And you don't realise it until you're in that first chorus and then everyone's singing it and then they feel so good. It's incredible. And everyone feels inclined to jump in. Yeah, it's a stunning, stunning song. Margot Robbie, thank you so much for doing this. You are so busy. You are so fabulous. Never too busy for this. This was absolutely amazing. You are so sweet. It was such a good meal. Yeah, it was delicious. It was unreal. Good luck with the film. Thank you. And come again whenever you need. Can I just pop over for dinner sometime? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I love that. We'll go to Inferno's afterwards. No, thank you. No, thank you. I'm good. Mosquito bun. I'm good. I'm good. Margot Robbie may be even better than I could have possibly imagined that she could be. She's just one of the nicest people. Just a superstar. I was like desperate for her to ask for my number. It didn't happen. Jessica. I believe that we'll hang out sometime in the future. Do you? Loved her. I want to be her best friend. I want to go surfing with her in Sri Lanka and make friends with Papa Salt. But you want to be one of the bachelorettes. I want it all. I want to go and have a Chinese with her. Yeah, she's good fun. She's just fab and so talented. Like Lucky Chap, her production company, the stuff they bring out, whether it's I, Tonya, Saltburn, Wuthering Heights. I mean, she's Barbie. Like, she's amazing. And she's just, like, doing her thing and being a great actress and a lovely human. Beautiful. Oh, Captain Lucky at her. She's perfection. Perfect skin. Perfect teeth. They were all her own as well. I know. All her own teeth too. All her own teeth. perfect anyway Margot Robbie you're fabulous we love you Wuthering Heights is out this Friday the 13th of February and it's going to weather all your heights and the production that she was talking about at the Almeida 1536 is coming out I think at the beginning of May so get your ticket can't wait to see what she's in next mum that salmon was so delicious was it was it easy or a bit of a fat no I did it this morning delicious mum absolutely delicious thank you really great recipe who's the chef So it's by Emily Scott. Emily Scott. Yeah. Can I look up more of your recipes, girl? Yeah. Thank you for listening. Thank you for watching. And we'll see you next week.