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"Jennifer Lawrence"

57 min
Jan 12, 20263 months ago
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Summary

Jennifer Lawrence discusses her unconventional path to stardom, including being discovered on the streets of New York at 14, forgoing formal education, and navigating sudden fame after The Hunger Games. She reflects on balancing motherhood, marriage to an organized partner, and maintaining privacy despite celebrity status.

Insights
  • Self-taught actors without formal training can achieve critical acclaim by finding authentic connections between themselves and their characters rather than relying on learned techniques
  • Early career success and financial security can paradoxically create hesitation about taking transformative opportunities due to lifestyle concerns rather than capability
  • Extreme work schedules during peak career periods can serve as a protective distraction from processing sudden fame and its psychological impacts
  • Personality compatibility in relationships—particularly between organized and chaotic partners—requires intentional compromise and clear boundaries to maintain harmony
  • Celebrities can maintain relative anonymity and normalcy by avoiding performative security measures that actually attract more attention than blending in naturally
Trends
Rejection of traditional credentialing in creative industries in favor of experiential learning and mentorshipStrategic career decision-making by actors weighing franchise commitments against lifestyle autonomy and family planningPost-fame lifestyle optimization using celebrity status as a tool for privacy rather than visibilityGenerational shift in parenting approaches emphasizing structured schedules and organized routinesIncreased candor from A-list celebrities about mental health, anxiety, and the psychological costs of fame
Topics
Acting without formal training or drama school educationDiscovery and early career development in entertainmentManaging sudden fame and celebrity statusWork-life balance during intensive filming schedulesMotherhood and parenting with young childrenMarriage dynamics between partners with different personality typesPrivacy and anonymity strategies for public figuresCareer decision-making frameworks for major rolesSelf-education and alternative learning pathsFranchise commitments and long-term character associationChildhood influences on career trajectoryAttention deficit and organizational challengesHoliday traditions and family timeReality television consumption habitsGame nights and social entertainment
Companies
GoFundMe
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BetterHelp
Sponsor offering online therapy platform matching users with licensed therapists for mental health support
People
Taylor Sheridan
Acting coach who advised Jennifer Lawrence's mother against formal acting lessons; later became acclaimed screenwriter
Meryl Streep
Referenced by Lawrence for her approach to finding similarities between herself and character roles
Lynn Ramsey
Director of 'Die My Love' film featuring Jennifer Lawrence; known for non-chronological scene writing
Robert Pattinson
Co-star in 'Die My Love' film alongside Jennifer Lawrence
Lorne Michaels
Referenced for advice about wearing helmets while biking in cities as a visibility/safety strategy
Quotes
"I thought it had to be harder. So I remember like I would like read like an audition, like I would read sides. And I'd be like, well, this is how a normal person would say it. And then so I would change that and be like, so maybe I will say it like this."
Jennifer Lawrence
"I don't think I ever got like by the time I finished the Hunger Games, they like came back to like the condo that I lived in when I was a teenager because I just didn't live in you."
Jennifer Lawrence
"I can just be like, oh, I can't come to your party. I'm too famous. I can't leave that."
Jennifer Lawrence
"I just do stuff. I do. What about like, will you do like Disneyland? Yeah, but I'll do Disney. I'll do it. You just rush it."
Jennifer Lawrence
"I married somebody who is the opposite of me. He is so organized. He's an anchor. Everything's ordered."
Jennifer Lawrence
Full Transcript
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Do you even have no Coke? No, I don't. And what is that? Hang on a second. Jinks, buy me a Coke? Jinks, buy me a Coke. You never heard Jinks, buy me a Coke. When you say the same thing, you go Jinks, buy me a Coke. I've never heard buy me a Coke. Is that a Chicago thing, maybe? I don't know. I think it's a universal American thing. No, I've been living in America for quite some time and I've worked for Universal. Oh, that's right. Neither of those instances did I hear that phrase. Welcome to No Smart List. Smart List. Smart List. Smart List. Smart List. Smart List. Hey, Sean. Sean, you got up a little early today and did your hair, huh? Well, it slept over from last night. But I got it. Did you sleep in a bonnet? No. Did you just... You know, my daughters, my daughters both sleep in bonnets now, so their hair wakes up nice and fresh. Really? Yeah, I don't think so. It's like silky satin bonnets. Like a night shirt in a bonnet when they walk around with a candle, but something to put on. Like a skirt. Yeah. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, my goodness. He is. Yeah, I'm fucking sick still. Yeah. How about I got two colds in two weeks? I know. I can't believe that. I've got TheraFlu going right now. I did that same thing, Jimmy. We were talking about yesterday. I had three colds since October. And they just went back to back to back in like insane. Yeah. Why am I such a bitch when I'm sick? Are you on the mend? Yeah, but I still coughing and I'm grouchy and draggy. Can Sean bring you something? Yeah, I'm sorry. Can we? No, he, I get it. I know who's a caretaker here. How dare he? He did offer twice yesterday. I know. Yeah, an angel. Well, I mean, do you really want me to? Well, no, I haven't asked you for anything yet, but I'm good. I'm all right. If you want something, Nick is happy to bring something over for sure. My sister will wear you. You in that light. I'm in that light. Yeah, it's so nice. Wait, so you're way closer to me than Sean is. So you can bring me something. I would love to. I would love to. I'm just looking at my calendar now. I would love to. So busy. You looking for sleeves for your shirt. Today. Yeah, I know. Says me. Listen, at least at least I'm wearing just because it's like gymwear, you know what I mean? I'm not like pulling a throw. Are you guys bitches when you're sick? Yes. Yeah, I'm the worst. All these are. All these are. I don't know. I think some guys can just kind of push through it. No. Me, I like cancel everything. I'm surprised I didn't get, well, I know I didn't cancel this. Yeah. I didn't cancel this. This has been canceled before. I know you, I know I ran into somebody on the weekend, JB, not a, and sorry, I'm hearing less gain from Rob for me. OK, got you loud and clear, Rob. Thank you. Jesus. Wait, did he give you a side text to lower your gain? Yeah, he did. He's like, so good. We're getting to much of you. And you know what I mean? Anyway, somebody I ran into this weekend said you were supposed to do something and then you had to cancel because you were sick. That probably mean me. Yeah, I was supposed to go to a party with Shawnee. Yeah. And what else? Oh, I was supposed to do some fricking press thingy and I couldn't. It was a press. And Amanda and Franny were in New York having fun and me and Maple, Maple, she's the fucking dirty carrier that gave me this cold. I love when people start to try to do like who they got the cold from. And it's all just get it from. No, but it's it's her. And I had just gotten over COVID. I was reminded how I was supposed to be babysitting and she's you know what? I had to test her temperature by do you guys do this? You put your lips on the forehead. You put your lips on the forehead of someone to find out if they're running a fever or not because your lips will tell you you can't put your hand against it because your hand is hot or cold. But what do I mean? Yeah, if you rest your lips before the mom is for sure, that's what we did. But for sure. And I think I got it by doing that putting lips against her sweating forehead. No, you can't get it from that. How do you get it? You probably, she sneezed on her hand or something. She touched the surface and you touched the surface. Who knows? And you both got it from somewhere else. I mean, what is she going to you going to start to do? Are you going to sue the person? No, I know. I know. I remember that. Remember that during COVID, everyone was like, who do you think they got it from? I know. Yeah, yeah. Who do you think? I don't know. Anyway, look, Jay, you have 50 minutes left before you go back to sleep. All right. Hey, I think maybe we should move tomorrow's thing to the resume. I don't know if I can make it to that launch. Are you trying to talk about that? What do you think? Oh, yeah. What do you think? Yeah, we've got. Yeah. I love it. See, I got you right. I'd love to not see you tomorrow, to be honest, if you are still ill. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I want to reiterate because you are such a baby. And the fact, no, I'm going to say, and the fact that you did do this is a real sign of respect to the gas because knowing you and knowing how selfish you are, this is remarkable that you were able to do. This is a big deal for me. I don't like this person. It's a big deal. I know this person. You must. A tiny bit, but I want to know her more. Our guest today, this is the second youngest actress ever to win an Oscar. And the youngest person ever to be nominated three times. She knows how to act, but it's not because she went to some fancy drama school. She self taught. She also knows about world issues and is a fierce advocate for the less fortunate, but not because she went to some fancy live arts college. She's self-educated. She's glamorous, but she's not a diva. She's a major movie star, but she keeps it real, yo. And she has enormous wealth, but she still lives in her first car with her husband and two toddlers. Let's find out how she does it all, guys. Please welcome Ms. Jennifer Schrader Lawrence. Maroni. I don't live in my car. You two live in your car. Living in your car. I've seen, are you referring to this TikTok? I've seen it. Oh, no, really? Oh, there's a TikTok that. Or you're living in your car? That my friend's nanny was like, it's like, Jennifer Lawrence. No matter how much wealth she has, she's never moved out of her first house. And she still drives her like the same car, but the car is like an old Buick. Well, well, sorry, you're trying to pull it up. I don't have TikTok. I'm not. What do my thing? I do not serve. Hi, guys. Hi. I listened to this podcast. I'm really excited to be on it. Do you really? So I'm excited to be here. She was supposed to be. She was my guest for the bowl. Yes. Yes. I know. I found out how excited were you, Jennifer, to get the cancel. When it got canceled. Yeah, just like the greatest call ever. I mean, for a person like me who likes to sit at home all day, when the rain came in, you know, it felt like a blessing, sure. I'm going to be on the floor. Yeah. But I have that. But I have. It seems like God was shining down on me. Yeah. Just the smartless cast. I mean. Who would have been nice to be out there? How fun to be out there at the bowl. Would you guys wouldn't get stage fright? Well, you guys do this in front of audiences a lot. So you're used to having to be. I would have been nervous. I would have been nervous. You would have been nervous. Yeah. That's a big deal. The bowl and the bed. Is that a part of like you being like a little bitch? I am a little bitch. Oh, you were saying earlier. So you messed it up. Not me. Yeah. I would have faked it though. But he found the time to comb his hair today, which is nice. I didn't expect one of you to be in a tank top. I know. I'm sorry. It's not a tank. It's a sleeveless t-shirt. It's a sleeved throw. Is it from Theroux's target line? He wishes. He got a new line of target, doesn't he? He wishes. He should have a line of target. Obviously, I thought you guys meant the row. Oh, no. The row. Oh, that would be a good way for him to market. Yeah. Yeah. I was out the gym. I mean, you parted in my appearance. Jennifer, so nice to meet you. Where do we find you today? Chesis. I am in my bedroom in New York. I'm in my car. I'm in my first car. If you had to live in a car, what kind of car do you think it would be? Oh, good. Like a camper van. Yeah. How about... He willy. I haven't talked to you about this. The new VW electric bus that you drive in your new movie. It's rad. Yeah. That is really cool. I want that car. Is it great? Yeah. I mean, it's... Yes. Listen to how careful he has to be with his agency content. I know. And I'm thinking about my Monday thing right now. I think we got to cut this. I'm a Volvo gal myself. Are you? Wait, do you do the Volvo voice? I see 90. What? No. You don't do the voice. Oh, no. I just drive a Volvo. I see 90. No one's asking. My husband's an Audi guy. Is he? Yeah. Well, I'm a Volvo gal myself. Are you? Wait, do you do the Volvo voice? I see 90. Yeah. Well, this is what it's like to be one of the guys. It's hard. It's hard. Wait. Yeah, but I would say to answer your question, it would be a GMC UConn XL. Oh, Jesus. Wait, where are the questions? Here I come. Blue, I have a blue one. Sorry. All right. Is it Jen or is it Jennifer? Jen. Jennifer, if you're like, kind of getting my attention. Jennifer from scolding you. Jennifer. Jennifer. Yeah. What about how cool that middle name Schrader is? I like that. Yeah. I didn't care about it growing up, but you didn't like it. Yeah. No, it's cool. Is that a family name? Could you imagine if it wasn't a family name? It's my grandma's maiden name. That's a great first name. Because Jason has a mother to get to this, where are you from? I don't know enough of that. I'm getting it all. I don't know anything about you. I want to know. Yes. I want to know where it was. Guess. Yes. I don't know what this is. I wonder if there's a state that will offend me. Can I tell you? There might be. Can I tell you something? It's because the first time I think that I saw you in something was, is it maybe a winter bone? Winter bone. Winter bone. I think of you of being from like Missouri or Appalachia or whatever it is. That's in my mind. Well, you're close. That's your class. Great you are in that. Oh, thank you. So I'm going to say you are from. Thank you, Todd. Well, can I just say, was for you, Julia? You can. Again, adjacent. Kentucky. All right. Kentucky. Oh, yeah. Okay. All right. How about that? Yeah. And now she, I hear that's my first question. You grew up in Kentucky with two older brothers, Jen. And you have said that you were always the tough kid. How do you think that environment shaped the kind of roles you were gravitated? See, this is not. What I need to do. I've got to read the questions first. I've got to make them my own. Are we still rolling? This is a loose operation. Hey, hey, you're not wearing a shirt. So you got two brothers. You got. You got. So you, all right. So, but now, do you think, here's the way I would phrase a question. You, all the roles that you play. Fuck dude. They do, you shut up. They have a, they have a, they have a, they have a sass to them. And do you think that the sass is in the part or do you bring the sass to it? Ah. Thank you. Oh, goodness. I mean, most of the time, yeah, it's, it's in the part. I recently saw Marl Streep say a quote that was, you know, she seems like she knows what she's doing. But she was like, it's about like finding the similarities between the two of us and like bridging a gap. And I was like, okay, so that'll be my thing to know. Right. But I feel like that. Now, I try to do that mostly because I like you. I'm completely untrained. And it's all just sort of like for me. I don't want to make this about me, but we're going to for a second. I kind of try to find what is the, what is the part of me that's closest to the part? And it seems like, because I never catch you acting, that it seems like you're, you're, you're staying inside your goal posts. You're the limits of, of what different parts of James. You have no limits in my view. Sorry. Yeah. You know, but would that be fair that maybe you were doing what Marl was talking about? And she just kind of put words to it? Yeah, I think that's fair. Where's everybody from? Can we do a roll call? Sean? I'm from Chicago, Illinois. I love Chicago. Isn't Chicago great? Yeah, the vibe is cool. It's a slippery slope, James. What he loves to talk about Chicago? Oh my god. There we go. It's pretty fantastic. I mean, it's from Chicago. They really love it. And the suburbs, like right outside of Chicago. Oh my god. No way. By the way. I'm out. But this is my high school. I'm wearing the t-shirt. Are you serious? What are these eyes? And then she mentioned it and then you're wearing it. Yeah. Sean, why do you love Chicago so much? You've done time there? Done time. It's about 16, 16 months. I've been in Chicago. I had like cousins that lived there. So then I would go and visit as a kid. Have you ever worked there? No, I've never worked there. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Were your cousins in one of those suburbs, like in plain trains and automobiles, and then you come home to that house for Thanksgiving. That to me, that's the idyllic suburban. So good. So good. You know that's like the only Thanksgiving movie. I know. I put it on yesterday for my 13 year old as a Christmas movie. And she saw in the little synopsis right before I clicked play. She goes, wait a second. This is Thanksgiving. I'm like, it doesn't matter. It's a great holiday movie. She goes, no, I'm out. Yeah. I'm like, you're a kid. Ah. Yeah, but Jenny, you know, I, it was wild. It was wild. I was a teenager growing up in Chicago when John Hughes wrote and filmed all of them surrounding me, like in all that made what's around. Wow. So, and I was in high school when they would come out pretty in pink, you know, homolo, or whatever. Very spewler. But, uh, very spewler, like all those, so it was like, wow, and it's so enamored. We're talking about your finity for Ducky. How much you identified with Ducky? I was called Ducky all the time. No way. No way. But anyway, but did you, so that was the thing that influenced me was being a Hollywood coming to Chicago. Yeah. And I was like, wow, it was so close to me. What was that for you in Louisville? Um, well, I just want to, it's interesting when your age lines up with the movies that are coming out. I had that with Harry Potter. I was like 11 when the books came out and like, what was Hollywood like in Kentucky? No, but men like, what was the influence for you that, what was the outside of the influence to go, wow, I want to do that. Oh, well, I don't, I mean, really nothing. It never occurred to me that that would be a thing or, or possible, you know, I like wanted to be a mom. I wanted to be an interior designer, which I'm not going to that. I just, that was a job option. But anyway, and then I went to New York with my mom on like a long weekend from school and we were watching street dancing in Union Square and I got like discovered. And then oh, really? Really? What we were, we were break dancers. That would you mean like break dancing? I was break dancing. I was break dancing. Yeah. I did that too. That's crazy. No, she's kidding. No, she's kidding. I did it. That's cool. Wait, street dancing. So you were just watching as somebody saw you or you street dancing too? Yeah, I didn't mean we don't get a lot of that in Kentucky. So my mom and I were just like, what's this? What? And then somebody, what? How were you discovered? Yeah, wait, what happened? This guy came over and was like, I worked for a modeling agency and I did your picture and my mom and I were like, you know, had no survival instincts. We're like, sure, do you want to go to a hotel? Like, you want to take pictures of me? The same thing goes. I heard, on off, what do you think? Top off? Top off. Wait, wait, wait, so they go. So this person comes up, I want to know this. So this person comes up and goes, hey, we're from modeling agency. We want you to, we want to sign you. We want to do picture. Whatever that, that is, that's creepy. And then what's the, what's the progression from there? How does that all, how do you start making movies? I signed with an agency that allowed me to like act, which was like commercials and stuff. And out of Louisville or if this is stolen? No, I, so we had to go back to Louisville. But now that I knew that this was an opportunity, I was just like, and I had actually made money, I'd saved money from babysitting, but also I trained horses. And so I had like, you know, a couple grand and I was like, I'm going and I was 14. And originally my brother came with me who was like 18 and we were just like, we are going to die. Wait, just to do it. Just to do it. Just to do it. Just to do it. No. Yeah. Our first meal was at Applebees in Times Square. No way. Because the subarrow was closed. I think mine was at the M&M store or whatever. But wait, what about how? Last meal, she said first meal. Okay. What? You were 14 and how was your brother at the time? 18. So you and your mom and dad were just like, great. Go have a good time. Yeah. I mean, they were supportive. I know that it's weird as parents to hear it back. I mean, but at the time it was like, I think, I don't know. I think they could tell that this was just like kind of happening. And so they tried to like make it as safe as possible. All right. So they gave me with my brother. If you just dropped out of school and moved to... Yeah. I dropped out of school. I was supposed to, I was only going to do it for the summer and then come back for school. But at the end of summer, I had booked a sitcom that shot an LA. This is the billing, also. And then I was supposed to, the billing wall show. And then I was supposed to get like, you know, you're supposed to like graduate, like get homeschooled for your credits or whatever, but we just kind of left it. Left it. Yeah. Wow. Leave it. And who drove you to LA? Was it the photographer? It's going to be a van. It's going to be a van. My dad drove us in the black era from Kentucky to LA. Wow. Wow. Why didn't we fly? We needed a car in LA. We needed a car in LA. Okay. And we did a perfect swap. We swapped our apartment in New York for somebody else's house in LA and it was just a Craigslist situation. Oh, wow. They worked out. They sublet your apartment, you mean? Yeah. And then we take their house. Just a bunch of gypsies. Just running around the country chasing an artistic dream. I know. It's like rehearsal season two and it's like this guy's going to fly you on a camera and he's like, how many people said, said no, and he's like, no button. And he's like, actors too. Yeah. Yeah. I saw that. That was good. And we will be right back. This is a paid ad by BetterHelp. You know, you've heard me talk a lot about my mom and how funny she was and how much we love her. But boy, was she a huge inspiration to me. She gave me the tools I needed for the work ethic I have and the funny bone in my body. She's one of the best human beings, if not the best human being I've ever known. Women deserve to be celebrated. 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So this is months after this union square moment. Months later you book a sitcom like pretty early. Do we know this sitcom? I was just a highlander. It was called the Billing Ball Show. It didn't do very well. I mean, it came out on TBS and I got a steady paycheck for a while. And on the, I mean, for like two years, two and a half years. And then I booked Winters' Bone on the hiatus of that show. And then the show got canceled, which was perfect timing. But so what were this first... And just like the rain cancelling our show. It was just like... Oh yeah, just like the rain. Yeah, it's a blessing. So looking at them. But this first exposure to acting and stuff, it felt like an early fit. This was something that you... It was comfortable. This is something I want to do the rest of my life. It was so comfortable that I found ways... I thought it had to be harder. So I remember like I would like read like an audition, like I would read sides. And I'd be like, well, this is how a normal person would say it. And then so I would change that and be like, so maybe I will say it like this. Right, right, right. Well, that's really interesting though, because people do... I don't know, I feel like some people that give performances will get nominations. And then other people that just do naturalistic, just kind of disappear, let the story take over, don't really get as much attention as the flashy sort of performance acting. You're so naturalistic. Yet you are incredibly well... What would you call awarded, nominated? I'd recognize it. Recognize it. I recognize it. Thank you. I'm sick, you guys. So that is... I love that. Do you think that maybe that's because you didn't go to acting school and learn how to act, you know? You know, my mom took me to some guy that like the agency. And don't worry, it doesn't end like that. But my mom took me to this guy that this agency told me to me to like, you know, help me like act or whatever. And he told my mom, don't put her in any, you know, acting lessons, don't do that. That guy randomly is Taylor Sheridan. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Wait, wow. That's amazing. I guess he was like an acting teacher or something back in the day. That's crazy. Wait, I feel like he was an... I think he... There's his stories that he wasn't actor, right? And then started writing and wrote... Sicario. Sicario. It was kind of around for a while. Oh, it's kind of... Yes, great. And Denise founder. He kind of found it was like, wait, this is the greatest script of ever. Far Tracy, just so she knows Taylor Sheridan created Yellowstone. And I feel like Tracy doesn't need any help on that one. Yeah, yeah. Well, she may. She may. So she was also teaching acting. That's amazing. I love that note. Don't take her to acting school. She'll learn how to act. And what a great piece of advice I was because you don't do that. You're very easy to watch, Mrs. Wow. So Taylor Sheridan was the guy. So did you... Have you guys ever talked about doing something? Is there any follow-up to that relationship or no? It was just that brief period and then you moved on. No, just that brief period. Wow. And you haven't run into him since? No, he... We met up about like another project. But we didn't talk about it because I don't know if we even made the connection. Somebody made the connection for me when I was doing a Q&A for a movie like two or three years ago. Oh, no. He might not even remember that connection. Oh, yeah. I mean, why would he? It was just like a little kid. Right. Let's get him on the horn. Yeah. That's why. All right. So the acting is comfortable. You're getting some good... You're getting good jobs. You get Winters' bone and Winters' bone gets thrown. Sean, would you have anything to have a Winters' bone? What do you... Yeah. So give anything. Give anything. Because your bear goes into hibernation during the Winters' journey. Yeah. Actually, we got it right there. It's not till spring. Is that what we got? That little cub doesn't come back with a bone to spring. They're so proud of themselves. Yeah. So it's so much fun. So much fun. So much fun. Now we're cooking with you. Good fit, guys. So wait. So Jen, so now Winters' bone comes out. Everybody loves Jennifer Lawrence. Yes. Looks like we've got a career ahead of us. And now we really don't need to do the school thing. That was already kind of decided, but now this solidified it, right? Yeah. But then I still feel this way. I still feel overwhelmed. When I hear that somebody graduated or something, I have envy of the organization of even just like having the credits or knowing how to... I wouldn't even know where to get started. I think I would have to start from like sixth grade or something. Whatever. I don't have to do it. I get anxiety randomly that I'll have to... Wow. Really do it. But you don't have any regrets about missing out on it. I did. Now I don't. But I was really lonely. I didn't have any social life as a kid. I didn't have any friends, you know, as a teenager. Really? Yeah. Well, but did you ever have to go to school on set? Were you... No, that's why we did it, I think, because you have to pay if you're not emancipated. And they have to pay for a tutor for you if you're underage. And so our way of making me enticing, I think, was that we said I had a GED. So we didn't need the onset tutor. So I was an inexpensive minor. So my mom had my boyfriend at the time print out like a GED or a diploma or something on like Microsoft Word. And it's not like a studio was going to be like, hey, let's do that. I'm not sure if it was fake. It was fake. It was fake. Yeah. God, I love this family. This family is incredible. Yeah, we used to see it as a Christmas. We really were. All right, but now, because I don't know. My mom one time I brought like a British boyfriend home and she they had in celebration of me coming home roasted a pig on a spit. And my boyfriend was very fancy and I don't think like wanted to eat it but it was being played and was eating it. And my mom was like, when I saw that naked pig on this spit, I couldn't help myself. I leaned right in and gave it a kiss. And when she know it two weeks later, I got ringworm. No way. Must meet your mom. Thank you. Oh my gosh. But I, you know, I don't have a high school diploma either and I get very, very jealous of people that are in college that are listening to like professors give lectures. Oh, but that's so funny because then I hear both you, Jay and you, Jennifer, talk about that. Sorry, Jen. And it's like that we all, okay, SH. Yeah. Yeah. That's, I know that's my initials. That was going to say that from your perspective, you were like, oh my god, I'm so jealous of people who went to college. But as a kid who's wanted to act when I was really young, I was like, andvious of you guys. I was like, oh, that seems. What are you invious now? Yeah, not really. Well, I like my experience quite a lot. Yeah. I mean, you're, you're a hill topper for life on that. That's right. That's what the T-shirt says. If it's cool. JB, I didn't realize that we had so much in common like this. I mean, but what was your, what was your way to self educate? Mine was watching Charlie Rose and trying to read newspapers. Yeah, I watched a lot of like his, like the history channel and animal planet. I would go to the library, but we didn't, I didn't have like a library cart. But I feel like we just weren't like organized and not like pay for things. So I would go, but then I would just read about like, what you'd sneak in. Magic. The library. You'd about magic? I'm going to get a degree in magic. Yeah. I mean, you left my own devices. I mean, I can't have you get, have you continued on the legacy of chaos in your own family moving forward? Do you keep a sort of a healthy dose of chaos? That's such a good question. I married somebody who is the opposite of me. He is so organized. He's an anchor. He's an anchor. Everything's ordered. Everything is ordered like on the sink. Like I have to, you know, like keep the closet doors closed. And I have like my little jobs that I work really hard to do. What's the thing you just can't fucking do, Goddamn it. And he gets after you all the time. Jen, what's the matter with you? Why can't you like? Right. Oh, I know, I know, I know the schedule. So what are kids? I mean, I get it now. I get it. But like they're on a very strict schedule, you know? It's like breakfast 730. Like, I don't know. I don't know. He does know to that. Um, well, he just keeps. He's got to keep the time. He's good at keeping it. We've learned to keep our merit alive. I have a 15 minute wiggle room. Right. I just, you know, you can't be held to the precise times. Otherwise, the marriage is going to suffer. Yeah, because I can't. I'm, I will. Yeah, I'm ADD. And I have, and I think I should go to like occupational therapy for that. But I don't know if anybody here ADD. I think I am. Or I'm obsessed of consult compulsive a little bit. Like, or at least about being on time. Like, I'm, I'm, I'm usually on time, but I'm never early. Because I feel like if I get someplace early, I'm wasting that amount of time. Because nothing's going to happen until I don't know. I have to be on time or I get anxious. But what I do is I picture what is happening. Like what the day is where it's going to be, where everything's happening. None of that is like confirmed or real. But the, my imagination about it is so strong. Like yesterday, we were going to the circus. We were going to go to the circus at 11. Yeah. I didn't buy tickets. And then the next thing I knew, I looked at my phone and I was like building a snowman with my son in the backyard and it was 1230. And the circus was at 11. Like stuff like that. Like it's pretty toxic. Yeah, because, because you didn't see on the schedule or because, because why? I do, I do follow the schedule. Like, I, you know, I am like capable of doing that. But when I mess up, those are the mess ups. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But doesn't your, how about like the iPhone was such, I used to be just in a sea of post-its before the iPhone? Like, I, I, I, I couldn't remember anything. I was always like missing appointments. But now the iPhone with the little alarm situation, the little calendar. It doesn't work for me. Watch this. I tried it last night. Uh-oh. Siri, tell me I'm beautiful in one hour. I don't see, I'm beautiful in your contacts. It just, it never does it. Oh, see? Yeah, I get it. And then it'll just like call my trainer. Yeah. Because it wants to help you get beautiful. Listen. Yeah, it's very stupional. What about a nice assistant? Well, let's, let's get you a nice assistant or two. Oh, I have, I have the best. I love my assistant. And it's still, but it's, it's really hard what, what I put them through. I know, it's not that bad. I mean, my god, I'm a mother. My kids get to school on time. Yeah, yeah. Now, okay. So everything's cruising along and it's feeling, um, it kind of normal, winter's bound happens. And then just like, winter's bone happens. No, it wasn't exactly like that. I got nominated, but you know, it was like, it was an indie. And I, I still kind of felt like I was going to just be like an indie actress because I had started a couple of other things that were like small and I had gotten like little awards for them, like two other jobs. Yeah, but you still have kind of an indie, indie vibe like in the best way. I mean, that is a compliment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I take it as a compliment. Thank you. And so I was like, yeah, this is going to be, this is I'm right on track. I'm going to be like the indie lady. And then I auditioned for the Hunger Games. And then when I booked the Hunger Games, it was the same kind of season as like award season for no, wait, I was silver linings. So I got famous just from booking Hunger Games. And then, and then, because the people who are fans of the book were like, oh, she's going to be, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because I used to do the Santa Monica stares. And I remember being like, I don't think I can do the Santa Monica stares anymore. Uh-huh. So then, so then when you were reluctant, you were reluctant to take that part because you thought it was going to be too, yeah. I thought it was going to, yeah, Twilight had come out and it was like holy fucking shit. Like they were like helicopter pictures of them, like just trying to live in a guesthouse and it just didn't seem like a nice life. And I had a good situation. Like I had enough money for what I, you know, and I could do what I want. Like there was just, I didn't know if it was going to be worth it, you know, exciting, but maybe not ultimately worth it. And I did, I was always focused on like my future being a mom. And so I was like, I picture myself being a soccer mom with a mini van and like, you know, and what if I'm, what if I can't do that because there's like, you know, I'm like Kim Kardashian or something. But I thought about it and then I said, yes, and I don't regret it. But wait, wait, wait, before you said yes, what took us through the sort of the deliberation process? Did you, did you reach out? Was it like agents, parents, friends or all the above that helped you come to that decision or was it just you running up the Santa Monica stairs and figuring it out? It was just me, you know, running up the Santa Monica stairs because there's not really anybody that can help you. Like, you know, every, mostly everybody's like, are you insane? You have to say yes to that. You're going to regret that for the rest of your life. And then taking time to like, think about, I know, I knew that I'd be connected to that character forever, which isn't good or bad. It was just something to think about. And I ultimately, I'm so happy about that. I love that. I love that. I know, isn't the new one about to come out with that? Yes. Like, all these years later. Yeah. Yeah. Isn't it funny too? Like, as an actor, you like work towards, you know, becoming successful. And then you have exactly what you're talking about, the struggle of, well, I know this is going to be successful. You know, do I associate myself with that? But that's the thing where we want. We want to be successful. Anybody wants to be successful in a job they do. I know. But our job is very closely connected with our lives. Right. I mean, I guess everybody says that. Yeah. So you say yes to the thingy at the Hunger Games and then you get the nomination. And then my saying yes. Happened this, like that was announced at the same, in the same season as awards who's in for silver linings playbook. Yeah. Oh, wow. Which I was like winning all of those awards leading up to that you win like before you win the big daddy. Right. And so I became the most famous person in the world. And I was like, so yeah, yeah, it was fast. And tell me what, honest ratio between excitement and fear and panic. Oh, God. I don't know because they they blend. Right. It must have been exciting for a second. It was very exciting. Yeah. So exciting. But I was also like working really like the whole time. I didn't have like during that era. I didn't have like more than two weeks off and like five years. So when I was like going to the awards things, when I won, I was shooting catching fire. And I was like, I mean, even, yeah, I was like flying in and out to go to a party and then landing it for in the morning and then going to set for the Hunger Games at seven in the morning. So just I don't think I ever got like by the time I finished the Hunger Games, they like came back to like the condo that I lived in when I was a teenager because I just didn't live in you. Right. And it was probably a great distraction to like the craziness was a distraction to not absorb everything. And I like lived with my best friend. So that was nice. That definitely stopped me from getting full of myself. But when the music kind of stopped when you came back to the condo after all that time, did you feel like, oh my, did it feel like such a big part of your life had just kind of gone by? You can't go to Starbucks anymore. And like all that stuff started to really kind of... Did it feel like a time warp? A time warp? Yeah. But you know what? It was like I am a home body and I realized that I could use this to my advantage. And that was cool. I can just be like, oh, I can't come to your party. I'm too famous. I can't leave that. Like being pregnant, right? You can just say, oh, yeah, I know I got to go. I got to leave early. Like being pregnant? Well, yeah, my wife... Do you do that like when your wife is pregnant? Yeah. It was like, it was it's a great way to get out of a party early or or or or you have the baby at home, you know, it's oh, yeah. Now with kids, you don't have to do anything. Sean still does it with his dog Ricky. Yeah. Sean does it all the time. He's like, we got to get back to Ricky. And we're like at 7 p.m. you've been going two hours. Did you leave out your food out? No, I mean... Do you not have kids? I don't have... We don't have kids. No, but we have a dog. We're not human kids. You have such calm dad energy. I know. You know what? It's because I didn't have one. So we've that's another podcast, but yeah. Because I didn't have one. So I think... I have a fantasy of being a dad because of the way I would... I wasn't fathered. But then we've had this conversation so many times about... You know, I... I've written like three jokes since you've been talking about just driving fast, about a steakship. Go ahead and keep going. But yeah, no, but I always say that neither me or Scotty, my husband, is 100% wanting kids. And I was like, if he was 100%, I was like, oh my god, I want them. I want them so bad. Then I'd be like, great, let's do it. But we're both like 85, you know, like so... No, you made them fun. It's not fair to the kid. Yeah. I do feel though that like, well, during the nine months it takes to make a baby, it helps... That's a useful time for parents to kind of get their head around becoming parents. So take that for what it's worth. That was... I don't know. Whenever anybody tells me like, I'm not sure. I'm like, don't do it. Yeah. Yeah. Because I feel it's so weird that people are like, oh, you don't have kids? You don't have kids? And then when you have a kid, you're like, what the fuck? Everybody should have been like, when I said, it should have been one out of a thousand people that goes, okay, I think I'm going to do it. And everybody's like, are you sure? Right, right, right. Like, that's the way it should be. And it doesn't help. Like, I said this too. It doesn't help like while somebody's rocking their screaming baby, you know, behind their back, they go, don't have kids. Yeah. You know? And like, the man and bits, we're doing bits. We're doing bits. We're doing bits. We'll be right back. Want to make a difference in your community, but not sure how. Go to gofundme.com right now and start a go fund me. Seriously, your next fundraiser doesn't have to start in a school hall or a church. You can start a go fund me today in just minutes. Fundraise for yourself, a friend or family member or a charity. All that matters is that you care about them. Go fund me is the trusted place to fund raise for what you care about. With no pressure to hit your fundraising goal, but tons of tools to help you reach it, you can confidently start fundraising right now, whether it's creative, local or critical. Your cause matters. 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As that hockey gear started smelling yet on the four year old because the hockey gear is bad. No, he told me I had to brush my teeth yesterday. Oh, your husband or your kid. He was like, you should brush your teeth, Mommy. Yeah. They'll tell you straight. Yeah. I used to have to bring my hockey equipment in the side and have to take it to the basement because it smelled so bad. The hockey bag is the worst. My mom would be like, I don't have that yet. Had to keep it in the boiler room at the house because it smelled so bad. Wait, so, but Jen, don't you just want to do about that? Nothing. Nothing. It just is what it is. I'm going to buy new stuff. Yeah. A, are you Canadian? I'm Canadian, yeah. Oh. Boy. Yeah, I don't stop. We'll tighten everything. They're really good. They're really good. They're really good. I'm tempted to just like not ever work again and just be like home with kids and I'm like, yeah, it's just. That's me. I identify as a stay-at-home mom. Yeah. But I am, obviously. So then when he says home a kid, he means on the golf course, but listen. I've lost my passion for that lately. I don't know what's going on. I know same here. You're just sick. You'll get a pack of new stuff. Yeah. No, but I do, I do love, I love not doing anything. Yeah. Like right now we're, we're, we're in the holidays right now. I did this a little air later, but the, the two weeks around Christmas and New Year's, I just love that there's nothing to do except just stay in your PJs, make a fire and watch movies. Yeah. I love that. Yeah, nothing's required. I'm not used to being busy like this. I normally like, I have a busy like three months while I'm filming, you know. But even in that sense, it's calm because there is nothing else to do. Right. I just go to work. I do that. I come home, I sleep and then I do it again. Right. And then like two weeks while you promote it is hectic, but like something like this where I'm like doing the, I don't know. Right. I'm doing some campaigning and it's, it's busy. You got to do a bunch of stuff like this. How do you like doing, do you like doing stuff like this? I, I'm, I like doing stuff like this. This is like a fun conversation with interesting people. Right. As opposed to doing like, but like, you know, like a Q and A that like starts at nine, like nine PM. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, after this. Yeah. Now you stay awake. What time do you go to bed? I'm, I have half an eye open at 830. Oh, I am in bed. I'm, Kendall is lit until like nine 15 and then I don't even have like Kendall light on normally by nine 15. So Kendall will put you to sleep. Yeah. The reading puts you to sleep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Will's a big reader. You know, that's true. The like the old, like the older you get, I went to a couple of parties that started at like eight o'clock at night. I'm like, who starts a party at eight? Well, that, this, that one this weekend that I couldn't even do started at eight. What time did you get there? I got there right at eight. Right. So you could leave at eight thirty. I was planning on going to a Christmas party tomorrow, but it's at start at nine. So yeah, why is it a rude? You know, all that, all that means is that we're going to be drinking a lot. When you set your time start at nine, that means it's going to be a lot of booze. And I just, you can't, you can't be hung over with a nine month old. No, no, no. You can't. You can't. Wait, Jen, when you were imitating your mom, that was so funny. And she has that Southern, you know, draw or twang or whatever. Did you have that and got rid of it or did you never have it? No, I had it and got rid of it. I listened to like CDs. No CDs. Come on, really? Did you really? Yeah. I did, but I mean, my agency gave me CDs and I listened to them and I did them and like repeated all of the things, but I think that probably just time. Mm hmm. Time in Los Angeles, especially that young 1450, you just start sounding like you're surrounding. Yeah, you did. I got rid of my Canadian accent the same way. When? Get it, Sean. I did. You did, you just said A and I think about. I thought. What part of Canada I've worked there. So I know all the problems. Toronto. Oh, okay. Yeah. Cool. Big city guy. Yeah, the big city dude. That's kind of my, that's kind of the cross. I'm more familiar with the Quebec region. Okay. Is that Montreal? Yeah, that's the Montreal is in Quebec. Yeah, Montreal is in Quebec, yeah. Yeah. I'm a part of the world. Here's a question I know Sean's going to love. You joke that you once fan girl too hard on meeting Jack Nicholson. What is your most recent embarrassing celebrity encounter? I think I like frightened Draco Malfoy. What's his name? Tom Feldman. Tom Feldman. Yeah, really? We were doing Fallon and you know how dark it is and those, and those like when you're like behind the curtain or whatever. It's so dark on the lead shows and I had finished and was walking out. He was going to go on after me and I just was like, I'm scared. And I was like scared. Really? Yeah. And you found out, I know it's wild when you run into people that you kind of that that stuck with you because of a film when you were growing up or whatever and you finally see them. Yeah. I know. And then it's just like you say like you that you love them so much. And then they're nice and then it just stops. Yeah. Yeah, conversation just. I know. I just ran into Molly Ringwald like a year ago. I was like, oh my god. I mean Nathan Feldman. I saw he was at a party and I tried to keep. I think I kept my cool. But yeah. I had the same thing with him. And I want to give a set that said that he was like the best and I was such a big fan. And he was like, oh my god. So thank you. Yeah. End of conversation. Yeah. Yeah. And Nathan Field are in a very David or they're intense because it's like it's their brain that you are so like you like their personality and like their brain. You know, not just like what they do. Like if they don't like me, then why would I like me? I know. I want to get in there. We're building by the end. I want to. I want to approval. Here's another. Here's another spicy hot question. Hot ones. You confessed to eating weird snacks on set. What is your all-time strangest on set food combo that you now secretly stand by? I have no idea what that means. It's a weird on set. I just eat what's at crafty. Right. My brothers used to think that like what my breakfasts were gross. Like I would have like Campbell's chicken noodle soup and like tuna salad. I get it. Okay. Wow. Shump the brinks. How did you do that? Delicious. Did you get on just excited? I did not want just recently myself. Just like how do you do Willie? Did you get all the way through it? If I'm being honest, I was like I was I was reluctant to do it because I don't like eating I don't like hot sauce. Yeah, me neither. And some like okay, here we go. And then they go, Bayman was just on and he made it all the way through. Yeah, but I was loaded up with like a pepper oil and tons and I threw up. You did? Did you do it? Yeah. It really helps that. Yeah, milk helps. Really? I did help that. But though the third to last one, I forget it was like I forget it was called like the bomb or something like that. It was so ridiculous. And I was rubbing the ice cream on my lips because I thought that my lips were going to come off. That sounds gross. Yeah. No, it's like truly frightening when it hits. It's overwhelming. It was rough. Like how am I going to handle this? When did you throw up on the set there when you got home? No, I so the only thing that sued the burning was chugging ice water. So I think what happened was I drank so much ice water that I threw up. Wow. This is the kind of torture we put ourselves through to sell our product. Yeah. But it's pretty fun. He was funny. He was a great, you know, super nice guy. Yeah, he's a very good interviewer. He's very good. Very good question. By the way, the questions are really good and they're really from out of left field. It made me laugh a couple times how I'm left field. Yeah, they are from left field. And you're struggling with your mouth is on fire. And I love how dry and robotic he is. Yeah. He's eating with you. Yes. He's a robot. He just doesn't react as much because he's used to it. Yeah, he's used to it. He's made of titanium. It's insane. He actually kind of mirrors you. What I found, like he eats the same way that you do. He takes the same size bites that you do. And there's some, I guess there's comfort in that. It's almost like he's in it with you. Yeah. Did you take just that? That's where guy, he said whenever he goes to restaurants, people send him chicken wings. Oh, boy. And he obviously can't take them. Dream. Yeah. Just send him over here. Yeah. All right. What about this? If fame disappeared tomorrow, Jen, what is the first thing that you would go out and do? That you can't do now because of getting recognized. Oh, I don't. That doesn't really apply. I just do, I do stuff. I do. What about like, will you do like Disneyland? Yeah, but I'll do Disney. I'll do it. You just rush it. And then so then what happens? I just rush it. What happens if like a big crowd starts to gather around you and everybody wants to picture on their iPhones, do you indulge? No, it never happens. And like, I would just leave. I think that bringing like a big security guard and like wearing a hat and all that stuff that attracts attention. But for the most part, I just get people like looking at me sideways, being like, she looks like that person. Yeah. I have. Right. Yeah. You don't want to involve. Sorry, I would just do that. You don't want to involve. I remember hearing this is a guy told me once, this is not related. I can't believe I'm making this connection. But riding your bike in the city that you don't wear a helmet because, again, this is a terrible analogy, but I can't be able to be too deep. That when you wear a helmet, you say to the other drivers that you're part of the system that you're just another movie. I don't like that. So if you don't have a helmet, then you recognize as a human. So when I ride my bike in the city, I never wear a helmet. Sounds like thorough again. You know who said it? Lauren Michaels. She's never been in a bike in the city in his life. Yeah. But he once said that to me. Did he deliver it? Like it was a good joke or did he deliver it seriously? No, he meant to do. No, he said, when you put a helmet on, you're telling the other vehicles that you're in the game. Because I was considering starting to wear a helmet. He said, don't do it. He advised me. Lauren. So like if you don't have a helmet on, then they'll be more careful around you, right? That's right. Because they see that you're a human being. I don't know why, but I find it weird when Canadians are funny. Because there's so many of them that are funny. Well, there's Jim Carrey. There's Jim, there's Martin Schoer. My word, there's my- Martin Schoer is a good pointy. Martin Schoer is, of course. Of course. Once you find out somebody's Canadian, you're like, of course. And I don't know what it is. John Candy. Martin Schoer must be one of the last. John Candy is Canadian. John Candy definitely seems like he's from Chicago. Well, we know why. We just don't have a place where he's in our videos. And it has a deep bench, if I can to you. Deep bench. Of funny people. Oh, of funny people. That's a hockey analogy, like a bench, like a- I guess I just like, to me, there's no trauma in Canada. It's like you have free health care. You're toxic. No stress at all. Public school. Everybody's so nice. We got to- I feel like humor is formed from suffering. Maybe you're cold. We just suck it up. Before we let her go, we've got, goddamn it, we're in the last minute. We haven't even talked about the thing. Let's talk. I want to talk to Lynn Ramsey, one of my favorite directors ever. Can you please tell? Okay, so die my love, right? Yes? Yeah. That's the film. It's incredible. Saw it. Love it. Well, can you tell us anything about what I'm assuming was a magical experience with Lynn Ramsey? Yeah, I mean, it really was. She's- It started like before we got on set, she just kind of started like talking about this world and then writing these scenes and like it wasn't necessarily like in chronological order, which was funky and cool. And then we got to Canada to- it was Calgary, which was in- Where if that was, it was beautiful. What's the Ottawa Province? No, Alberta is- Alberta. I agree with you. And- I'm here for all your Canadian questions. Oh, yeah, thank you. I- So yeah, and then I- It was just- it was just really cool. Great. It was extremely instinctual, so I kind of exactly what you want to have and you're like working with an or two or like that, just like so. And you're incredible in that and so is Robert Patton. I can't wait to see it. It's so great. I can't wait to see it. It's just beautiful too. I can't wait to see it before I start. I have a- Really? Do you have a top movie of all time for you or top two? Oh, Sean. Well, now I've been one battle after another. It was my favorite movie of my ever seen. It's pretty incredible. It's pretty incredible. What about- Wait, your reality TV fan, do you watch any of those of your husband? He doesn't- he doesn't get near him? He got near Vanderpump for a while, but now I lost him. But yeah, I'm, I walked to Southern Charm, Real Housewives of Salt Lake and Real Housewives of Beverly Hills now. What about below deck? Do we do, do we go below deck at all? You know, I can't watch below deck because I cannot understand the different franchises of them. It's too confusing. I don't ever know which one is current. Is it below deck? Below deck Med? Below deck Australia. I don't know which one's happening now. You got to be clear on those. Yeah. You can't be confusion when you're in the below deck universe. Exactly. Do you ever watch trainers? Like what happens if I confuse? What would happen? What region I met? I'm clearly passionate about promises. Wait, Sean, what was that train? You're describing chaos. You ever watch trainers. Traitors. Traitors. Oh, wait, that's the one that was just in England. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so good. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, play mafia basically debut. They play mafia and they're doing that in the state. Remember last, remember last year in New Year's how much we played mafia every night? You were great at it. You were great. I had to run it every night because everybody else and I had, it's a call. I couldn't even play. I had to run it every night. You're, if we wouldn't, it wouldn't elast it without you. You were, you were a beacon. Do you guys ever do bowls? Boils. What is that? Salad bowls. What's that? Everybody writes down something that's familiar to everybody. Like everybody would get it, you know, like Spider-Man, Donald Trump, like cheese. Yeah. And then you put them, and then there's like stage one, which is you can say every, you can say a full sentence just without that word. Yeah. And then the second, you can just say one word and then the third, it's a race. Yeah, some people call it celebrity or what do they call it? Oh, it has a different name for everybody. Oh, yeah. It sounds very good. So what the first round you do, yeah, one, you get one sentence to describe it, then you put them all back in the bowl and the second round. And it's always the same. One word. And then you started getting these inside jokes with, you know, it's just like the same. It's very funny. Shawnee, you used to have great game nights. What happened? Yeah. Too much. I love game nights. Yeah. Too much to host. Yeah. Yeah. Let's get on down to Jamie and Nico's house and just fire up a big fat game night. Oh, yeah. Off-line. You know, it's game nights always happen where people are like into it and then you start it and then people kind of fall off because they get bored and then it's kind of. Yeah, that's the bummer. I'm going to start doing monjone with my girls on Thursday. I love monjone. I don't know how to play. Yeah, we're going to learn. It's just a match. Is that the one with the tiles? Yeah, you smash the tiles. That's it. Oh, that's it. That's it. Those are the rules. Really? Yeah. That's all. So, what's the commitment? Yeah. So much. All right. Jennifer. Jen. JB. Thank you. Sean. Will. Next time you're out here. Will shirt. Doing your things. Thank you. Let us know and we'll play some majong and some bowls. We'll do a game that I should. Yeah. You're doing some bowls. Yeah. Sean's going to do some pictures. Sean, I'll help you organize and I'll come early and we can set up appetizers and stuff. Yeah, right. Could it change? Well, Sean, then I can like be. Don't you know where there are? Yeah. Yeah, it does. Yeah. Hot Darts just in a row. Oh, I understand. Jen, thank you very, very much for doing that. Thank you. Thank you. So nice to finally meet you. Jennifer Lawrence. This is lovely. Thank you for having me. All right. Have a great rest of the day. Yeah. And have a great holiday. All right. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Bye, bye, bye. Bye, bye, jail. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. That's Jennifer Lawrence. That's Jennifer was supposed to be on the big stage at the Hollywood Bowl. I know. She got rained out. We got it. We got it. We got it. And yet we still, and then we had her and then we just had her on here, which is great. I know. And when I found out that that was who it was like after it got canceled, I was like, oh, it was a great one. I was so glad to. And then, and here she is. Did you guys, you guys did not know it was her leading up to it? No, I knew I knew I knew it was going to be Jeremy Owens White a week beforehand. You did. All right. Because his agent mentioned it as something I was at. Oh, right. Right. But listen, it not his fault happens all the time. Yeah, of course. But, um, yeah, that would have been that would have been that would have been a, would have been fine. I can't believe it took us so long to have her on on. I know. And she's one of those like, oh, I know she's sort of like, she was on my list too. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, just fantastic. She has a lot of success quickly, but she handles it well. Very well. She's done so many great things. She's been so good. Right. She's been in a movie every year for the last 20 years. I was looking on her thing. Is that what you're looking for? Is that what I'm looking for? Is that what I'm looking for? Yeah. Is that right? Yeah. And then, so, uh, die my love is out now. And then, and then the, uh, hunger games, next hunger game thing I think is coming out, uh, middle and next year. How about that? Um, that's, um, you know what? Well, you know what? You go ahead, Sean. You know, you know, she, um, I'm coming out of, thank God, I mean, it's a good title. Thank God it wasn't titled. I'm, I love exactly what I was going to do. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart.