Summary
Tony Kornheiser discusses NFL playoff implications with Michael Wilbon, including coaching changes and controversial calls, then analyzes college football's 12-team playoff format with Chuck Culpepper, focusing on the disadvantage of bye weeks and Indiana's remarkable coaching performance.
Insights
- Teams with bye weeks in the college football playoff are 1-7 in second-round matchups, suggesting the 25-30 day wait disadvantages higher seeds against teams that just played
- Kirk Ferentz's Indiana team has overcome the bye-week disadvantage through exceptional coaching precision and discipline, winning against top-10 competition
- SEC bowl performance (4-8 or 4-9 record) suggests NIL era may have neutralized traditional conference advantages that existed during the cheating era
- Rematches in elimination tournaments reduce competitive interest and advantage the team that just won, making a potential Indiana-Oregon rematch problematic
- Coaching job quality matters more than previously thought; Pete Golding's potential success at Ole Miss raises questions about head coach necessity versus coordinator impact
Trends
Shift toward 16-team college football playoff format as inevitable solution to bye-week disadvantage problemSEC dominance narrative challenged by bowl game losses to non-conference opponents and mid-tier Big Ten teamsIncreased scrutiny of NFL coaching changes and coordinator-to-head-coach transitions in modern eraCollege football playoff structure creating unintended competitive imbalances that favor lower seedsCoaching precision and detail-oriented systems (Ferentz model) emerging as differentiator in high-level college footballNIL era potentially democratizing college football recruiting advantages previously held by traditional powerhousesPlayoff rematch disadvantage becoming recognized strategic problem in tournament design
Topics
NFL Playoff Seeding and Coaching ChangesCollege Football 12-Team Playoff Format FlawsBye Week Disadvantage in Elimination TournamentsIndiana Football Coaching ExcellenceSEC Conference Performance in Bowl GamesKirk Ferentz Leadership and Precision CoachingCollege Football Rematch DisadvantageNIL Impact on Conference Recruiting AdvantagesNFL Head Coach Job MarketPete Carroll and Vegas Raiders FutureBaltimore Ravens Playoff Loss AnalysisPittsburgh Steelers Fourth Quarter Coaching DecisionsChicago Bears Playoff Bracket ImplicationsLane Kiffin and Ole Miss Championship ProspectsNotre Dame Playoff Disappointment
Companies
ESPN
Broadcast partner for college football playoff games and analysis throughout the episode
Washington Post
Chuck Culpepper's employer; published article on college football playoff bye-week disadvantage
Bethesda Bagels
Local bagel chain in DC area mentioned as sponsor with multiple locations
Common Oil Running Company
Running shop in Evanston, Illinois that sent product to Tony Kornheiser
Emerald Waterworks
Irrigation company based in Denver; listener offered services as official sponsor
People
Michael Wilbon
Sports journalist guest discussing NFL playoff implications, coaching changes, and team performance analysis
Chuck Culpepper
Washington Post writer analyzing college football playoff structure, bye-week disadvantage, and team performances
Kirk Ferentz
Indiana football head coach whose exceptional coaching job overcoming bye-week disadvantage is central discussion
Lane Kiffin
Ole Miss head coach whose championship prospects and coaching philosophy discussed in context of playoff run
Lamar Jackson
Baltimore Ravens quarterback whose playoff elimination and emotional response discussed by Wilbon
Aaron Rodgers
Green Bay Packers quarterback; potential playoff matchup with Chicago Bears discussed
Miles Garrett
Cleveland Browns defensive end who achieved sack record; performance and record-breaking moment analyzed
Justin Tucker
Former Baltimore Ravens kicker whose absence discussed as factor in playoff loss
Mike Tomlin
Pittsburgh Steelers head coach whose future and potential television career discussed by Wilbon
John Harbaugh
Baltimore Ravens head coach whose coaching decisions in playoff loss analyzed by Wilbon
Pete Carroll
Las Vegas Raiders head coach whose potential firing discussed in coaching changes segment
Joe Gibbs
Historical coaching reference regarding coaching stress and office sleeping habits
Dan Campbell
Detroit Lions head coach referenced for aggressive coaching style and playoff run
Pete Golding
Ole Miss defensive coordinator whose potential head coaching success discussed in context of playoff run
Matthew Stafford
Los Angeles Rams quarterback mentioned as potential NFL MVP candidate
Drake Maye
New England Patriots quarterback mentioned as potential NFL MVP candidate
Sam Darnold
Seattle Seahawks quarterback whose performance and playoff prospects discussed
Jim Harbaugh
Chargers head coach mentioned in context of playoff matchup against Patriots
Quotes
"We're devastated. Furious devastated."
Lamar Jackson•NFL playoff loss discussion
"The best possible final is Indiana Ole Miss. They're great stories both ways."
Chuck Culpepper•College football playoff analysis
"Indiana is playing with this sort of rarefied precision you almost never see."
Chuck Culpepper•Indiana coaching discussion
"It's the greatest 18 weeks of all time. It's the greatest television show of all time."
Tony Kornheiser•Red Zone discussion
"I would rather get the 49ers in a rematch in Chicago. But because they, you know, that might have been their high water mark."
Michael Wilbon•Bears playoff bracket analysis
Full Transcript
Hey, it's Tony. On today's show, we will talk to Michael Wilbond about the end of the regular season in the NFL. We'll also talk to Chuck Culpepper about the college football players. But first, let's do some commerce, boys and girls. Previously on the Tony Cornizer show, and I sit down and I open up the scone thing. I didn't like it. Because as Michael said, you're not a scone guy. I didn't like it. It was a big ball of dough. It had no taste. So I went around sort of like a mouse eating just the raisins, opening it up, getting crumbs all over the place, putting the crumbs into the paper bag that I had being very neat, sure, very tidy, eating the raisins about eight raisins, three 95, eight raisins. The Tony Cornizer show is on now. First and last scone. That's it. No more scone. No more. Let me just say before we start the show to Dave Carrey and Birds Road Pennsylvania, it's a lovely note. I feel all of it. It's very beautiful. And yes, dog owners are dog owners. Thank you for that. No. At the end of the red zone for the year, that's it. Red zone's over. It's the greatest 18 weeks of all time. It's the greatest television show of all time. It's so sad. It's gone. Yeah. You know, now you have to watch the games. You have to watch the commercials. You have to watch the nonsense. And you realize how much better the red zone is than everything else. It really is. Yeah. On the, on the, the other side is I can stop paying for the red zone. And I can reduce my cable bill a little bit. Do you ever go to the red zone and say like, June, just click on it just to hear the music that they have June. They don't have the music. I don't think they do. They do. In the music. It's all you love. The worst is when you come downstairs after putting the kids to bed and just see the light of the red zone on the music. Red zone is tremendous. Our great thanks to Matt Abbott-Paul, who has a running shop in, in Evanston, Illinois. Common oil running company. Yeah. Send a big box of that. Oh, and very, very nice. I deeply appreciate over that. Very nice. So, you know, I could, I could bore you with all the golf I played in the last few days in the freezing cold. And literally in the freezing cold. It was literally freezing cold. Yes. And some wind. Little. Okay. I'm aware I get the, I get the morning update from you. I get the course update from Columbia and your personal update. But if it's not windy, if it's not windy, you can dress and play. Yeah. You're not any good. I'm not a good player. It doesn't matter. I just like being outside doing this. You know, it's a great way for you to collect your thoughts. If I go by myself, if I go by myself, I'm out there alone. I'm first out. There's nobody on the course, but me. I can drop through four balls from wherever I am. What are your diary entries like right now? They're just, they're just, you know, they, they specifically say I can't hit the shot. It's the second shot on 17. I cannot hit the shot. I never get the shot in the air. And I, and my diary is filled with, again, I didn't get, I took four shots at it. I play up the left side of the fairway. He's the ramp. I just couldn't, I'm no good. I don't get the shot in the air. I actually read his diary. The other than Michael, be curious to, you'll be interested to see this. So we beat on boats against the corn or back ceaselessly into the past and man is it cold? Watch the clock. So let me, let me talk. Michael is here. So Michael had not been here for a while. I mean, record time on the drive back. We just out of time. Time to die 95 day after a holiday. I thought it was day off. Okay. Well, day after the evening portion of the holidays. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. The trick was we stopped for gas early. So we could load up on some soft pretzels from a wall wall down in North Carolina, waived, waived to the buckees. I was tempted to stop. Oh, that's tough. Too many cars. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So as a result of Michael coming home with Liz and with voice, we went bowling. We went bowling the other day. We went bowling on Saturday. Yes. We went bowling. Columbia has six lanes, six lanes with the tiny ball, but not a regular bowling ball. The duck pin, the duck pin ball and the duck pin pins and the duck pin pins. I always call it a candle stick. Is that a different one? So it feels like the box. But I don't know. Maybe it's candle. I think it's the candle pins or candlestick candlestick. I think whatever. If you hit, if you hit a bunch of bowling pins with a regular bowling ball, they scatter and they take other pins out and you get more than a four, you get a seven or an eight. When you throw the small ball and it hits the pins, a lot of times you just get those pins. It goes right, Michael. Straight back. You just get those pins. I can't tell you how frustrating it is for me to bowl. I enjoy it. I would do it every day if I had the opportunity. But I should be able, so I do this with a regular bowling ball. I should be able to bowl the ball straight. I don't hook it or anything like that. I should be able to bowl it straight and get it to go where I've aimed it. And I can't do it with the small ball. The small ball, I just moves in my hand, I curve it. I don't, I'm not trying, you know, and there are so many frames. Where I get nothing. Yeah, I just go right in the gutter, right in the gutter. The boys don't go in the gutter because the boys get the bumpers on the side. And so it becomes ski ball for the boys. Other plane angles. You know, so that's and they did. The gap looks like he's throwing a shot put. They, oh yeah, he just flings it. He's like, one time rally. One time it went over into the next lane. I think this is, I think this is candle pin and the tough thing for you. The ball is small enough and light enough that it doesn't have a consistent release point. Right. And to see the frustration on your face, when you're not used to it, you know, it's not picking up the first, the first ball is not picking up the, the number of pins that you'd like. And the second one is you're just not getting the consistency of the, of the wrap around of the deflection. I never, I never, my high score was like 80. You know, and in regular bowling, I'm not any good. I'm not, but you got to, you have like a nice three step approach, right? Regular bowling. No, I have had a 200 in my life. The dude abides once, but no, no, but 120 to 140, you know, on this thing, it's like you couldn't consistently get 120 to 140 in real bowling. I, if I practiced, even now at my age now and my ineptitude and dotting this, I could get 120 on a regular basis. Yeah. I believe that. I do you challenge. No, I died. I, because I think I could 100, maybe the Swiss cheese challenge. I think I could, because I mean, I think I would get three or four space. Yeah. You know, I do. I think I get three or four. Because the, the ball is, now I can't, I don't release Tony Riali throws it as hard as he can down the house. Like 900 miles an hour. I don't understand. Always great watch them do that. You know, just as hard as he can throw it with two hands. With two hands. I don't, I don't, I don't understand that at all. But I enjoyed the bowling. You enjoyed the ball. I loved it. Yeah. It was always fun. It's always fun. Yeah. And something you don't expect to be good and it's always. Now, it's at Columbia. Did you get the bowling alley fries? Because I know there's a, we did get bowling alley grounds. Oh, no. You know what? With kids under 12, it's all about the food. All of that. Everywhere they go. It's all about the food. Yeah. Like you, wherever you plan to take them to, you have to plan on another million dollars in food. So again, this happened over the, over the time of what is often called lunch. So yes. Right. And that was fair. Yes. That was, that was, they changed their fries, by the way. The fries were good. Yeah. The last year they've been very good. The fries were very good. That's standing. Should I do anything else here at the beginning of the show? I'm going to tease something. I'm not going to do the football because would you will want to do the ball. Magical share one thing. So last night, you know, the boys are back in school today. Yeah. Coming off holiday hours. Bootsie likes to feel like he gets some independence from his younger brother. So he say, okay, eight, 20 little guys are reading going to bed. Go downstairs, watch the first quarter with that. Oh, and he loves both. He's a Ravens fan. His face is lighting up as he sees them go down the field. Oh no. He goes up with the lead. I say, I think he got this. See the fourth down stop. No. No. It's too bad. That is tough. The Ravens wide right. So Chuck Todd got crushed. We did two and five. And he was one and three in the college. And I should have said to him, don't pick the college. You got Miami right. You got Miami right. But he didn't get anything else right. The only other game he got right was a carolina plus two and a half against Tampa Bay. Okay. You know, and Tampa Bay one by two. So he won by half. That sent him back below Mount five hundred sixty five and sixty five. Okay. Carville. Oh, yes. Carva went six and oh. Yeah. Including that crazy bet of Patriots minus six and a half. First half only against Miami where it was seven. Did you see how that played out? Oh, 17, 10 at the first half. Well, the Patriots were go, you know, look, they were going to score at least get a field goal to put him up by 10. So okay, he's got this easy. No. Throw his pick, then they go down and they score. And the Patriots have to kick a very long field goal. His time expires at the half to give him the cover. But six and oh, he's now 51, 47 and two. He's four. He's plus four. Like he had the big action game. Yeah. Jeff Maad didn't do well. He lost them. The monkey did well. The monkey was over five hundred. Monkeys three and one three and one. Yeah. So I'm just going to tease this one thing. I'm going to get out of here on this. But I will tease this because I'll do this later in the week. I have a post script on Sherman oil. I have a whole thing on Sherman oil. And so you'll want to listen to that because as you know, I called up and I said, I'd like to speak to the owner. And I was told, what are you talking about? Speak to the owner. I said, who is the owner? And I was told, Mr. Sherman, I said, what you tell Mr. Sherman? I'd like to talk with him. So I'll just tease it by saying that and I'll get out of here and I'll say that Michael Wilbarn will join us when we return. I'm Tony Cornheiser. This is the Tony Cornheiser Show. This is Rock Creek Revival. And yeah, they're named after Rock Creek. They're local. This is called Winchester, Daniel Janicek writes, attaches a link to Rock Creek Revival Spotify page, although I know you don't know how to use Spotify and O'Mikeldos. My brother Andrew Janicek or Janicek, I don't know how it's pronounced. The bandjo player said band, they play all over the DMV area. I figured you might also like the name. Sure. Because I played Rock Creek a number of times. I grew up listening to ESPN 980 when I worked for an irrigation company out of Croft and Maryland. I listened to your show religiously every day as I battled traffic around the Bellweer, made my way to Eastern Shore. I've continued listening for the last 15 years. I'm about little. I was also hoping to be your official irrigation car's bonnet. My business is called Emerald Waterworks. I'm now based out of Denver. That's a long way out. Well, I'm waiting on a response from my brother as to how many outlets he has in his kitchen. Ask Wilbarn how many he does. Again, this is Rock Creek Revival. This is called Winchester. Place in Mike Wilbarn. It's just hard to know where to begin. It's hard to know. A lot of things happen. A lot of teams won. A lot of teams lost and people are getting fired. I think the... I'm absolutely... In agreement, I said this last week that the general manager at Atlanta should be fired. The way he screwed up the quarterback situation. I would not have fired the coach. I just saw a shifter on TV. He says he thinks that Pete Carroll is going to get fired. He says he thinks McDaniel and Stofansky will keep their jobs. Stofansky finished well. McDaniel did not. You've any thoughts on this like on firing us? You know, John Hardwell for all I know is going to leave. What do you think? It's a normal cycle at the end of the season. The normal cycle. Four or five guys are going to be fired. Heavy or years. It's five, six. Later years, it's three, four. It's expected. I don't reason I brought this. You know, a interest to me is what would become... They're not going to be just unceremoniously dumped. Would be horrible or if the result of that game had changed last night. Tom Lips. Tom Lips. Yeah. What do they... After 18 and 19 years, do they want to do this? They want to do something else? I personally think they're Mike Tomlips. If you wanted to go to television, could reset television in terms of coaches in the booth or in the studio in the way... If not in the way John Madden did, certainly in a dramatic style like that. If Tomlips wanted to do that, I don't know Tomlips. I don't know him that well. I know there are people in the agent business who think that Tomlips would be great at that. And who knows? Maybe you get tired of doing something for nearly 20 years. Something of that profile and that stress. And it's so dramatic now that we used to go crazy when Joe Gibbs said he was sleep in the office like two or three nights a week. Now that's the job for everybody every night. And so there's some people who say no, I'm going to do this for X amount of years. I've done it for this long amount. And I don't know if Tomlips and Harbaugh are cut from that. They can make $20 million or more in television a year. So there's so much that's out there for these guys. The industry is now what would support them, not just head coaching. Yeah, they've been there a long time. Pete Carroll, not a long time in Vegas. I don't know. I don't know how it works. I mean, I'm convinced that firing the GM in Atlanta was right. But because Kirk Cousins is now six and two. As a starter this year, six and two. And this guy drafts, you know, Michael Pennix. Just insane. Just, let me move on. Three meaningful games yesterday in terms of playoff getting into the playoffs. Although the Carolina Tampa Bay game wasn't meaningful because they had to wait for Atlanta. And they still Tampa Bay still lost. Seattle San Francisco, obviously for number one. Because Seattle the other day smothered San Francisco. I'm Pittsburgh Baltimore. The dramatic thing. I know you don't like Aaron Rogers. What are your thoughts on Pittsburgh getting in and Baltimore not getting in? I just it's crushing. I thought that Lamar Jackson. Stated it as well as it could be put when he just said, we're devastated. Furious devastated in eight. You could see it written all over him because, you know, that game Baltimore's got to Baltimore's got that game. They got control of it. Even when Pittsburgh, since the hits wise, they should have control of that game in the fourth quarter. I do think that the coaching while John Harbour is a Hall of Fame level coach. I just think that that team the last couple of years was inadequately coached. And I don't mean mean by him, but if you hire the lieutenant to fail you, that's on you. Oh, yeah. And Pittsburgh is, it's just a while that they escape with that win. What are they doing at the end of the first half? What were they doing? You know, I don't. Don't you take points? What do you do? Well, I did two seconds. I just did when when when Tom said, you know, field goals are going to win this game. He felt that way in real time and he went for it with two seconds left. Crazy. I thought, you know what Tony? I would have kicked the field goal. Me too. But I thought I thought he was going to go for it. And he's not a go for a guy. He is not Dan Campbell. Right. But yet, but yet that's that's how it played out. So the wow, that game, the whole game was a while. Let's get to the, let's get to the bears because it doesn't, it ultimately doesn't matter that the bears lost because Philadelphia lost as well. They retained two. But in retaining two, if I'm not mistaken, they have to play Green Bay a third time. This would frighten me. I assume it frightens you. Of course. Yes. The bears and Packers have only played twice in the playoffs in history because the NFL sought to avoid that set up as bracketing avoid division teams playing each other. Yep. Before the conference final, they played the conference final in 2010 in Chicago. And the Packers won. That's the famous J. Culler game. He can't go. He goes and get to the bike. Right. At the end of the bench. And that was Aaron Rogers only Super Bowl. NFC championship game in Chicago. And they played in like 1940. Halus and Lambo and I think the Packers won that one. I don't want to see the Packers. But on the other hand, Tony and I set around national my teeth over a week about this. This week you could see it coming. It's the bears. Do I want to play a wounded Packer team in Chicago or the Rams or 49ers who just beat us? I kind of think I would rather get the 49ers in a rematch in Chicago. But because they, you know, that might have been their high water mark. The game against the bears with each team scored every time down a week ago. But I think I'm making my peace with with the Packers. They got a they're quarter back as a play in the month and three weeks. Yeah, since the bears knocked him out of that game. And they got so many injuries. Like what the hell? We got to dance and dance with the devil one more time. My feeling about this is you have no home field advantage in terms of whether when you play the Packers. But you do when you play California teams. Of course you do. Yeah, but that's not the only home field advantage you're looking for. But but no, there's no there's no advantage of any kind. No for the Packers or the bears playing each other in the most familiar settings. They can play. There's a slight advantage of the bears. We saw that in those two games each team won by a play. I'd take a play worth of advantage. But that's what we're talking about. We're not we're not talking about no whether doesn't come into play. But it doesn't come into play for a lot of people. If Buffalo and New England were to play each other, it's coming to play. Baltimore and Pittsburgh. It doesn't come into play. So there are a lot of games where it does it now where it could. Is LA the bear. Yeah, the bear L.A. Chicago Packers. Yeah. And then and then the the the Eagles were to lose their wild card game. Then we get the California team in Chicago. So that's an advantage. It's needed to wind up, but that second seed in order to set that up. Is there a team? I mean, we go through this all the time and we will go through this today on PTI that every time there's a team you like, they lose the next game. They do. They lose the next game. And then they come back and win a couple is there one or two teams are there one or two teams that you are particularly high on going into the playoffs. Seattle Seattle. Seattle. You always like Seattle. Yeah, yeah, they got the best. They smothered the 49ers. They did. They did. What I'm hoping for is that, you know, I understand how they're playing. Um, that what they do travels. Uh, but I'm hoping that, you know, Sam Donald will throw it to you instead of his own people. Yeah, maybe in a second playoff game, you know, Sam Donald will do that. So that's what I'm hoping for. But I think that Seattle is the best of the NFC teams. Do I think the Philadelphia can win the NFC again? You damn right. I do despite all the. I think the absurdity of their season and the reaction to it. Um, I, I take Seattle over anybody in the entire league. But but I think that I think that the Jaguars and Houston that though I think Buffalo is going out right away. You do? Okay. Yeah. I think they go out in Jacksonville right away. Wow. And I think Pittsburgh is go at at Pittsburgh. We'll play at home. No, there are. I think Pittsburgh's going out right away. I agree with that. I agree with that. Yeah, Caroline is going to be what that's all. Caroline is going out even before the game starts. There are. Who does Caroline again? They get the Rams. They got the Rams. A nine and a half point favorite. Yeah, they're not. You know what? You know what? I hear you and I believe what you're saying. I believe that. But this whole season Tony, is you just, they beat the Rams. Right. It's gone. They beat the Rams already. They beat them. They beat them. But but but this whole season has worked against the logic that you're now. I know. He has to happen. I know. So I'm looking at this also going, okay, where are the favorites going to lose? Yeah, that's that's fair. Let me get to Miles Garrett. I I saw it burrow turdled. I thought he just laid down. What did you think about? You thought he bred far. Yes, I didn't pay. I did. I didn't see what you said. I did. I thought, I mean, I know you love Miles Garrett. So that's why I bring it. Brady turdled 150 times in this career. Right, but not for the sack record. Not like far did because he liked straight hand. He did. Yeah, you know, I, I, I, I, I did. Did he, you know, was he Michael Vic on that play? Did he, you know, get up to 22 miles an hour running away from? No, no, he didn't. No, no, I just think that way too much attention had been devoted to that anyway. And I was glad to see it out of the way. And now he's chasing his own record next year, which he may. He's that great. He's defensive player of the year. Time close. Would you vote for him? Would is he your MVP? Because it couldn't be mine because they don't win. You can't know his own MVP, but I don't know who my MVP is. And I, I guess maybe, you know, it's, it's Matthew Stafford. I think so. I guess Stafford is if you look at, it can't be somebody from San Francisco. No, no, it could be Seattle, but you know, when it's going to give Donald the MVP, it's not going to happen. No, you know, and it's not, no, you're right. And Seattle's not going to be a recipient of that. Would they give it to Drake, may they have a wood because they, the people who want to and there are enough X Patriots on television talking it up. So yeah, it could be Drake, may. And who do they get in the first game? I don't know who New England charges. The charges are not good. The charges aren't good. They're just not good. No, I think the charges are windless against the Patriots in the playoffs. I'm like on three or on four, you know, historically against the Patriots. I'm not going to say they can't do it. I'm just not prepared to say that Jim Harval, the Jim Harval can't win. It was certainly be an upset. I see what else matters to it seems like this week in the in the Midwest and the Northeast is going to be ridiculously mild. With temperatures in the 60s. That doesn't work in favor of of upsets, you know, you know, actually, maybe it does. Oh, yeah, it's hard to tell. Visiting team. It seemed like San Diego. That's got it's the same temperature in California. Yeah, it's not going to make them different. So it's been a great season. It's just been a great season because of the uncertainty. The uncertainty has made it great. It's just been great. And so my point Tony is why wouldn't the post season continue on? Yeah, I agree in that tradition. I think that would, you know, serve the public well when it comes to just when it getting involved and paying attention from the very first game, which is Saturday afternoon. I just tell you this and I'm sure that you thought the same thing last night. If Justin Tucker was on that team, Baltimore wins that game. If Justin Tucker hadn't done what he did. Well, no, but Justin Tucker in the last two years had become nothing. And they listen, Justin Tucker's off field alleged behavior. It made it easy. That's right. But then it made it easy. But it was Tucker was done. Justin Tucker was done. Just look at look at the big games and the kicks he missed in the last at least two seasons. So they were going that way anyway. Wow, those two kickers. Oh my God. Yeah. I mean, that was unbelievable. Kick the you missed the PAT. Just like you shanked it was just ridiculous. Yeah. It was so, it was so wide. All right. I'll talk to you later. I'll see you later. All right, Tom. Michael Wilbon boys and girls. We will take a break. We will come back with Chuck Culpepper. We will talk about the college football playoffs. I'm Tony Cornheyser. This is the Tony Cornheyser show. Not a fan Joe music today. Happy with the end. Oh, sure. I just thought this is again rock Creek Revival. It's a local band for us. It's called White Flowers. Very lovely. Michael, if bands like Rock Creek Revival want to send the original music in here to get a play on the show, how do they do it? He sent her music to Jingles at Tony Cornheyser Show.com. And this one plays in Chuck Culpepper and we're going to talk about the college football playoff. And I'm probably going to be annoying about Notre Dame, but I'll try and keep it to a minimum. But let's just start with this. And this is something you addressed in a terrific article the other day in the Washington Post that we've had this big playoff 12 teams, which probably go to 16, but we've had this big playoff 12 teams for a couple of years. And in the second round, when the four teams that get buys play for the first time, those teams which we presume are the higher seeded teams, though they're not always. They're one in seven. They're one in seven. I mean, okay, it's not a huge sample size, but it's the only sample size we've got. What do you make of this? And what do you see a course correction coming up? So the sample size is getting bigger. Yes. And it's getting considerable, I think. Yeah. And it means it. I think it, you know, as in as we've seen, maybe with buys in other sports from time to time, you start figuring in that it's a disadvantage to wait, you know, 25 days, 25 days. Yeah. While the other side's waiting only, you know, half that or less. Yeah. So to make this clear to people, one team is waiting 25 to 30 days and then being asked to play a top 10 team. You're not being asked to play the citadel. You're being asked to play a top 10 team that just played in the old days. I'm going to go off here in the old days when you had bowl games and only bowl games, everybody sat for 25 to 30 days. So there was no advantage. This is an elimination tournament. There's an advantage. It seems to me there's only two ways to fix this. Go to 16 and or start playing these things earlier, which I don't think college football is going to want to do for money reasons. Right. I think go to 16 is the solution to this and it's the the outcome. It's what's going to happen. I don't think anyone doubts that and you know, you take a case like last season Oregon 13 and 0 ranked number one. They had played on that first weekend in December and then they have to they play the Rose Bowl against Ohio State, you know, which had just played Tennessee on the 20th of December. And it was what 34 to nothing midway through the second quarter and the same same with Ohio State this year. You could just see it in just whatever it is. Whatever kind of sharpness is lost with the weight. You could spot it there pretty much. The only team in two years that has not suffered is the juggernaut known as Indiana team. There was the worst they were the worst college football team of all time. And it leads to this question because there's a lot of sideline shots of Kirk's dignity. Why is he so angry? He's so angry Chuck. Why is he so angry? I think I think it's the perfectionism probably and that's you know the way they practice and the way they teach. Whatever is based on these very, very minute details of hand placement, you know helmet placement and just small small things. So I always look at that and assume that he must be thinking about, you know, whatever tiny detail was just done. A fraction of an inch, you know improperly. So I think that must be it and he's quite a character and I love when he, you know, he'll get a long question and answer with about five or six words. And then let it go at that. And the whole thing is, you know, and you were just talking about the disadvantage of having to wait. This is another accomplishment that they made. There's now the only ones to to overcome this disadvantage and they did it 38 to three against Alabama. He's always scowling. His eyebrows should be put in a wax museum because of the way that they look and it's like it's like he waits for the end of the question. And what he wants to say is he kidding me with this question. Right. Don't you feel like he's kidding me with this? Did you just see us? What do you talk? Right? I mean, right. Wow. He came to the media day at the before the Rose Bowl two days before the Rose Bowl. And he's sitting there on a, you know, on a podium day. It's whatever you'd say people bunched around and there was a delay in the questions about 12 minutes, 15 minutes in. Made them to a 40 minute session. He said, we good. Yeah, nobody had any more questions. He left. Yeah, he's just his arrogance is palpable, which makes me love him. It's a, I have to say, I don't want to ever talk to him. I don't want to be around him, but I love him from a distance. How did he accomplish that's? I don't think people really understand what a hellhole for football Indiana was. How did he do this? It's I think that's still one of the mysteries of this that makes it so compelling is this is has to be the best coaching job we've ever seen. At least over a two year period, just remarkable in so many ways, but still define description in some way. You know, they've beaten, you know, as as we know, they used to lose to Michigan and Ohio State, you know, as a matter of routine year after year after year, they've beaten both of those in the last two years plus Oregon on the road. Plus now Alabama plus Iowa on the road, which is hard to do. Illinois came into their place with a number nine, killed 63 to 10 killed and he ran it up. He runs it up. That's another thing. I like he runs it up. He doesn't care. You know, that's part of that precision thing too. We're going to, you know, you could see on the sideline in the last three minutes. I think it was the defensive backs coach still drilling them on what to do with a 38 to three lead. So with all this and, and you know, and I'm not going to take that position. They got to prove it again and again because they prove it all the time. But with all this, I don't like the fact that they have to play Oregon for a second time. I don't I've watched. I've watched what happened in this tournament playing a team for a second time is not good. What are your thoughts on that? If they overcome that, then there even more astounding than we thought, which was already very astounding. And you're right. And I, the rematch is, you know, the Georgia Ole Miss rematch turn out to be a terrific game. But in the run up, it was so dreary to think about it. You know, these rematches are just Ole Miss two laying with a rematch. You know, just, I don't know. There's something about him that just, it seems unfair as you're saying. And it also seems just a little less interesting than it could be. Thank you for mentioning Ole Miss, which leads us into the existential question. How do you think Lane Kiffin feels right now? I think he has such confidence in himself that he believes that it's going to happen for him across the next few years time. And again, I think that's probably the way he's thinking about it. I think that's, you know, that's kind of a perilous way to think. It's that's true because these things are actually hard to come by and what Ole Miss is doing is rare and certainly rare in their history. And rare for anybody. I think of Dan Campbell and the Lions almost got to the Super Bowl and he said, you know, the sad part about this is it was really hard to get here. And it's going to be hard to do it again. And I think, you know, I don't know if it enters his mind that he's missing out on this, you know, really precious opportunity. I'm going to guess no. I would think no. I would think he's where he wants to be with all the perks of LSU that Ole Miss didn't quite have and that he's thinking, well, this is going to happen for me across the next few years. I bet he's thinking that. But if I was a booster at LSU and I saw Ole Miss win the national championship with Pete Golding sitting at the rudder here, I might have some doubts about what I bought with Lane Kiffin. I might. True. And Pete Golding, whose record if he does win the national championship will be 4 and 0 lifetime head coach's record. So that'll tell us something about maybe how it all works and how the head coach is. We all know the head coach is crucial, but maybe not as crucial with experience as we think. All right. I'm going to I'm going to go back into one of my standard wines here. Miami has totally justified being in this tournament. They're totally justified. And then I could justify them being in before. But what do you know? What are you thinking if you know today? What are you thinking if you know today? And you were ranked ahead of this team five straight weeks. And now they're in the semi finals. What do you think? I think what a lot of us were thinking which is that even before it got started, Notre Dame looked like it had this caliber good enough to win the whole thing. Yeah. And now that the whole thing is open as it is to a large degree. I mean, we thought we were going to the everybody thought, oh, the fiestable Ohio State and Georgia, that's going to be a real, you know, that's a real heavyweight belt right there. And now if you're Notre Dame, the way it has unfolded, you're probably even sadder. That's what I think sad and angry. Sad and angry about what happened. So I think the best possible final because in terms, I always think in terms of writing, the best possible final is Indiana Ole Miss. I mean, because they're great stories. They're great stories both ways. Who do you like? Who do you like to win it? You watched them all. Who do you like to win it? Indiana is playing with this sort of rarefied precision you almost never see. So I've decided to stop worrying about them so much. Right. You know, obviously we root for the story. That's true. We people always think that sports writers, oh, who's your favorite team? Whatever favorite team I had as a child fades over time, you know, and you get used to being objective and being sort of fallen in love with the story. So, you know, Indiana is it. It really is and it keeps marching on. But I also think it's the best team. And it just it'll be hard to beat Oregon again, but they did it in Eugene. So I think they can do it in Atlanta. And I would like them to beat either Miami or Ole Miss. So I noticed this the other day. There was a graphic on some show somewhere. The SEC, which it doesn't just pride themselves on being the best conference. Oregon tells you that the best conference all the time and doesn't really want anybody else to play college football. Okay. Their bowl record this year is awful. Have you seen it? It's something like four and eight or four and nine, right? Yes. Yes. Well, I think the sort of the popular thing that people are wondering at the moment is has the NIL era maybe softened or negated. Some of the advantages that they had before when they did when they cheated just under the table. Like everybody can go on probation more than other people did. So yeah. So that to me is fascinating. Is it true that they no longer sort of have that kind of advantage? And you know, some of these bowl losses, Iowa beat Vanderbilt. You know, Vanderbilt's terrific team. We all everybody with a heart loved that season that they had and thought they were better than Iowa. Clearly they're in the SEC. Iowa is middle of the upper middle of the big 10 and Iowa pretty much controlled that game in a lot of ways. So I think it's it's going to be really interesting to watch going forward. You know, when they're as you say, if there's another 12 team play off, of course, though, campaign to have seven or eight of them again next year. Sure. That's that's their DNA. But like Oklahoma, maybe you don't consider Oklahoma and SEC team, but they lost after winning one Mississippi state lost Vanderbilt lost Georgia lost. Alabama lost, you know, they won one and then lost one. I don't know about LSU Tennessee lost. I'm these are big name schools. They all went down the drain in these polls, right? Yes, Tennessee lost the music city bowl, which not supposed to lose that in your home state. Yeah, it probably violates like zoning ordinance or something like that, you know, laws and things. But yeah, some of these losses are kind of jaw dropping. Yeah, we're loves it Virginia. We'll bond just loves it because you know, he hates the SEC because a big 10 guy hates the SEC anyway, right? I enjoy the whole thing. Thanks for being on. We'll talk to you after all of it. Thanks, Chuck. Thank you so much, Tony. Thank you. Chuck Culpepper fabulous writer. Just fabulous. We will come back with email and jingle. I'm Tony Cornheyser. You're listening to the Tony Cornheyser show. Here comes Tony's mail bang got your email. Facts and your notes. Here comes Mr. Tony's mail bang. He's going to read some for all of you folks. He's going to read some for all of you folks. That's Sean Gallagher. That's new. That is new. That's new. That's a banjo and great country vocal. Yeah, it's well done. That's really good. Start the year off with a Scotty McCreery modulated up or something. Yeah, that's really very, very good job. You want to do the Bethesda bagel that Oh, yes, Bethesda bagels. We love the day was bagel sandwich day. Yeah, always excited about that. Just go to Bethesda bagels.com for the location in the DC area near Stude and pop on in and you'll be thrilled. And I would like to give a shout out to our very good friend Greg Garcia. Yes, what's he got coming up? He's featuring so he's not just the opener now. He's a feature comedy comedy act for Julian McCullough at the Mohican son casino in Connecticut. Yeah, it's going to be doing 20 minutes. He's going all around the country now doing this Friday and Saturday. Fantastic. No, so fantastic. So little if you're in the area, you'll want to stop on by Mohican son Friday and Saturday. The Julian McCullough is the headliner and the feature act is one Greg Garcia. Oh, that's great. So great. Hope that works out well. All right, before we get to the mail, big. Let me just say there are no good and our goodbye. And true love takes a lot of try and all I'm crying. Let's hang on to what we've got. Don't let go girl. We got a lot. Got a lot of love between us. Hang on, hang on, hang on to what we got. That's a very early four seasons to him. Yes, that's a great Frankie, Frankie Valley vocal. Yes, it's great. Thanks to our guest today, Michael Wilbond and Chuck Colt Pepper. Thanks as well to today's sponsors. Remember you can listen to us on Apple podcast Spotify and Odyssey. Get show through Apple. Please leave us a review from Charlie birds and Springfield, Virginia. May I please be the official first email or read in 2026 to the Tony Cornheye's or show. It's been in dream of my mother since I was a small. Yeah, happy New Year to all wind chill and Palm Beach Gardens 35 going to 60 regards DJ to know to know Aaron Halliday. New years greetings from Nashville. This is Aaron the official motor coach operator for the Tony Cornheye's or show and typically the lead driver for the Illinois State football team. My email this to you. It's 8 a.m. Central on Sunday January 4th, and I'm preparing for my day with the football team. We're on an incredible run to be playing in the FCS national championship, which we played on the fifth. The Redbirds led by head coach Brock Spack, who are unranked, have traveled to Hammond, Louisiana to defeat number 16, South Eastern Louisiana, to North Dakota, to defeat number one North Dakota State, to California to defeat number eight UC Davis and finally to Pennsylvania to defeat number 12 Villanova. Illinois State will be playing number two Montana State on ESPN to topple off this run. Sadly, I will not be the lead driver for the team because of the travel distance and scheduling commitments of the weekend's events. Instead, I will be providing transportation for support staff, student trainers, equipment crew and others. However, I will be there to see my team compete for the championship on the sideline. The support of the locals in Nashville will be apparent at shocking how many people acknowledge me in my peoria charter motor coach with the TK salute as I maneuver through tight turns and parallel parking across the United States. We could use some well-witches while love as we take the field to finish this incredible season. We need to sport in the littles. Now this happened, right? It happened? Did it not? Or is it say the fifth? Yeah, or is that today? That's today. Okay, good. In closing, thanks for decades of entertainment. I've been on listers since 1998. Any attacks you some photos and says go you Redbirds. Yeah, go Redbirds, yeah. So it's today. On ranked and they beat the number one team already and now they have to beat the number two team. Good luck. Yes, definitely good luck from chef howling late last night. You better not let them in spider wolf full moon. It's a beautiful moon when it's not occluded. We have had difficulty seeing it here. We saw it the day before it was totally full. Yeah, it was. And then through the clouds on full night Saturday. Yeah, you know, it's a big moon. It's very nice. Jeff Barge. Hillsborough, North Carolina, marker calendars. There will be a lunar eclipse on March 3rd. It is a blood moon eclipse as the moon will turn red on March 3rd. The best part is that it will happen during the six o'clock morning hour, which is right in your wheelhouse. Yeah, I got the dog out there. PS, please tell fellow Hillsborough little Leslie Thomas to eat it, but also to have a happy new year. We'll connect in 2026. From Jordan Chance and Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, formerly of Lyndon, Hurst, New York on Long Island. Just want to send you a quick update on the Peter Goldstein situation. I called my mother after you read my email on Tuesday's show. She told me she never heard of it. Anyway, if you want any more details, I'd be happy to look into it further. Nigel knows my email address. So just get in touch with me. Just what are we doing? Private agency? So great. Neil Airways. For all my adult life, I've had very little connection with family, principally as a result of having so few relatives and losing several to young. In fact, a Google search discloses fewer than 10 airvaces in the world. Wow. Thanks to you in your community, however, I just experienced the marvelous, marvelous familial connection. Just this week fellow little Adam Schubert reached out to say that he heard you read my emails and that the woman to whom he is related by marriage is an airvace. We followed that communication with the long phone call on the connection, which I'm sure will flourish and help us all find out more about our family. Yes, the connective tissue is strong and so frequently meaningful is that nice. That's amazing. Thank you in the gang for playing the music of Mari Campbell on New Year's Eve. I have so enjoyed the music of artists whose songs I love being showcased on the pod since 2018 when I sent in Liz Longley's song, Bad Habit, as my introductory submission. In my case, it's been a very good habit and thank you for all the kind words you've spoken over the years about the artists and their songs. I become such a big fan of the show not only because of the music, but also because of such amazing guests as Jason Locke and Fora who offers terrific insights about the NFL each time he's on. Speaking of the NFL, thank you Tony so much for offering a visual shout out for two days in a row and pardon the interruption to hold on the roof. The book I co-authored with Burke Merckson whose father founded the Dallas Cowboys in 1960. The last chapter in a book is called Franken Stadium for a reason. It underscores exactly what Jason said during his last appearance on the pod when he spoke of the billions of dollars and subsidies. Now being doled out to NFL owners hoping to cash in on new stadiums. Clint Merckson, Jr. of the focus of our book, Pride It Himself, I'll never take him penny of taxpayer money. After opening Texas Stadium in 1971 during his tenure, the Cowboys also provided police and fire protection stadium and even paid rent to the city of Irving, Texas. In preparing for recent speaking appearance involving home roof, I was shocked to learn how much money billionaire owners of the NFL are now taking from taxpayers to build their Franken Stadiums. The list of the guilty is too long to mention so let me commend the one ownership group that is vowed to use private funding and no new taxes in building a state of the art domed stadium. That would be the Denver Broncos who provide quite a contrast to their division rival, Kansas City Chiefs was the Washington Post noted in a recent editorial. The tentative agreement of the state of Kansas has made with the chiefs provides $2.775 billion billion in public funding. This is likely far below the final price tag with one estimate putting the total public cost at $6.3 billion over 30 years. What else can one say Mr. cranberry writes except co Broncos. Yeah, right. Yeah, sure. Bill Isaacson, assuming the topics of Larry Sanders, Larry Sanders in the history of sports illustrator. Still on the table I have this story. In 2013 lead Jenkins of sports illustrated the story on Larry Sanders, the Milwaukee Bucks before Sanders flamed out. The story describes Sanders' difficult background with the opening line the NBA's fiery angel has seen the darkest corners of crazy. For the peace Jenkins reached out to Gary Shanling because of Sanders of the Bucks Jenkins wrote was living alive for the Larry Sanders show references never cease. Well, I can say, says Gary Shanling, his name could have been rosanne and then it would have been much worse. As Jenkins also wrote, Shanling is well aware of Sanders thanks to Bucks fans who mistakenly tweet him. Really enjoyed watching you tonight. Good luck the rest of the season. Shanling is flattered. Then I remember the show isn't on anymore, he says. Gary as he would do had long conversations with Sanders about his difficult childhood and abusive father, including finding out that his young child Sanders and his father would actually watch the Larry Sanders show together. A great, great show but not Sesame Street. Anyway, prior to Jenkins coming on the scene as a Bucks fan myself, I had given Gary a Larry Sanders jersey and taken a few photos of Gary wearing it with my iPhone, the innocent days for the iPhone, parenthetically added. S.I. and Gary reached out to me for the photo and that is how while I may not be a half or a waff, my photo was published in the sports magazine with the most iconic sports photography in history. I proudly keep a frame copy of the page, although in retrospect the fact that S.I. published a phone photo may have signaled the beginning of the end and then he shows it. It's great. That's what I think of with Larry Sanders. I think of Larry Sanders. From David Epstein on the Wednesday pod you mentioned having a matchbook from the famed restaurant 21. The 21 club was located not on 44th Street, but rather a 21 West 52nd Street directly across from the CBS Black Rock building. Since you asked, I regret to inform you that the restaurant is no longer an operation yet another victim of the pandemic. Non-New Yorkers may possibly remember 21 as the place where Gordon Gekko orders the off the menu steak tartar for Bud Fox in the 1987 classic Wall Street. For me it's a place where five years after that movie I bore witness to the hilarity of the head of CBS advertising sales, having to cut off the credit card of one of his salespeople. Said salesperson was apparently in a habit of heading to 21, expensing the steak tartar to go hopping on the train and bringing home to feed his dog. PS one of my favorite stories I was ever told had to do with 21 and was told to me by the actor Jared Harris of Mad Men Famous. I'm sure Nigel knows Jared Harris is both the son of the famed actor Richard Harris and the step son of the equally famous actor Rex Harrison. As Jared relate to me Richard Harris was a noted drinker and then the 1960s frequented 21 then a New York hotspot. During one state one trip stateside in 1969 Harris stopped in a 21 looking to relax and then buy his favorite table. He was instead told that the restaurant was clued closed due to a private party. Harris protested and was eventually allowed to sit in a remote part of the restaurant while Reveller's dominated the establishment. A annoyed Harris inquired what the fuss was about. He was told that the group was celebrating an honorary who had just returned home to the United States. Harris annoyed that no fuss was made over his many arrivals in New York. Called over a teenager a manager rather to find out why he a loyal patron was being put out for a celebration of someone who had merely landed in the United States as he had done many times. It was then that Harris was informed of the identity of the honorary and weary traveler Neil Armstrong. How fabulous is that email. Ten Sandler Columbia Maryland. We had a wonderful New Year's week at Bethany Beach with four of our 14 grandchildren who watched the sunrise on New Year's morning with the kids. Great experience was enjoyed by all despite the cold and biting winds as I was driving home. Catching up to the week shows filled with joy from the week you open the mailbag with lyrics to my in my life which definitely is one of my favorites. I had to pause the pod to listen to the song immediately. Need to say I was wiping my tears as I finished listening to the mailbag wishing you and the crew a happy New Year filled with straight hits. Very few sand traps from Bob Lane in Midland Michigan long time little occasionally mailer Mr. Tony your reference of in my life made me smile as I recalled an incident from a few years ago my college roommate was getting married. And I offered to pay for the acoustic duo providing the music for his wedding when it came time to write out a check. Thankfully didn't accept online payments. I offered to double their fee if they would play you don't send me flowers instead of Lenin's masterpiece they decline the offer. Well from my friend's second wedding and trust me there will be a second wedding in average of your log island high school friend Jimmy Steinman I'll triple the going rate if they play two out of three. Brett Hobbs Linton Indiana I visited your area a few years ago wanted to take the family to Harper's Ferry to hike around. I come from a small Indiana town where we only need a few quarters to pay a parking meter when we want to park in town when I arrived with the family in the parking lot at Harper's Ferry. I was greeted with a new technology of the pay by phone parking after my son helped me download and store the park mobile app which I don't have which Michael has offered to do. I paid for parking we were able to explore the area I never use that app again but a strange thing happened. I received an email telling me that park mobile had a data breach and that I was included in the class action lawsuit against the company. I filled out the required online forms and after several months I received a payment of $13.75. I miss that on that as my position of the cement. I can see why you were against phone apps and the way technology is changing. Park mobile should understand that a few quarters in a meter are a lot better than lawyers at your doorstep when you don't protect the data you require from a person just to park from Bill Garner. I always love hearing Bob Ryan because I always learned something during the conversation you mentioned influences. Influencer you're not I have a revolution toaster love it fleeced line pants the best solo stove only. Four time in three years stupid toothbrush I toss long ago because you wouldn't tell how the battery operated if I ever go to Norway on vinyl lily hammer jacket. Thanks you guys are the best. Darren in South Bend Indiana hate to pile on but I feel a civic duty here between your iPhone updating itself without consent on the federal government gently insisting that checks are now embarrassing relic of the past. There's one more quiet change that may affect your remaining analog joys. United States Postal Service has now changed how mail gets postmarked you check is no longer dated when you put it in the mailbox or handed to a human it stated when it finally gets processed by a sorting machine which may be a day or two later possibly more. The mailbox is now just a suggestion box so the check you mailed on time responsibly signed with a bit may now appear late not because you were late but because the machine woke up when it felt like it. This matters for anyone of mail's payments to the internal revenue service utilities that blasted iPhone really anyone who believed that a forever stamp meant forever you can wait in line and still request a hand stamp postmarked at the counter which feels like asking a librarian to bless your book otherwise the robots decide that's a brilliant email. Chris to eat rock city falls New York a small hammer near Boston spa New York which is also a small hammer. With the mention of Hensley Bam Bam Mullins the other day it brought back memories of seeing him at Heritage Park with the Albany Colony Yankees when I was a kid we saw a lot of great players go through including Bernie Williams Jim Laird's Dion Sanders who signed his autograph with a dollar for the S in his last name back then. Bam Bam always struck out because of his nickname I guess day I gave the nickname because his home run power was reminiscent of the club willing character Bam Bam Rubble from the Flintstones I gave my son the nickname Meatloaf because it meets both of the dad son Nickname criteria one he hates meatloaf to he hates the nickname I can only hope when he's in the big league someday that is known as miles meatloaf to it. From Todd Darien Orange Village Ohio you mentioned your experience at famed frame bridge which is a wonderful product and company you also mentioned its own by Don Graham and his company frame bridge was actually started by Susan Tynan who graduated high school with me in 1994. Everyone loves Susan knew she was going to be something big she was voted most likely to succeed in our senior class went to Virginia undergrad and Harvard Business School. She started frame bridge because she loves the art I knew there had to be a better and less expensive way to frame pictures and artifacts it was not the least bit surprising to me the frame bridge is so successful Susan is a wonderful human being I'm so happy for our success. Happy New Year to all of you tell Eric Marks eat it this is these are the ones that are unbelievable. Yeah, why would the high school wither these are the ones they really are from Sam Thompson in Georgetown Texas take the raisins leave the skies. Godfather Brendan Borzele is the new game to bring our grievances to you once a year until they get resolved it might be difficult for Michael to disguise as problems with you when he realized the same issues to you but it's possible. Yeah, I'm having this problem with the mutual for keeps calling me to complain about losing his information when Apple takes over his phone with an unwanted upgrade also can get can you get Barry bombs into the hall of. Yeah, I'll keep writing you. I'll keep writing every year. Legor in episode 80 point in Beach Florida enjoy that new hand warmer just don't leave it behind on the golf cart like those insulated beverage tankers I left it I lost it for a little while. I had to get your name tag I was on six and I have it and I had I drove back to five drove back to four and between four and five is where I fell out of the card from Tony T and Brooklyn DC. I was at a pretty contentious neighborhood meeting once folks were complaining that the time and date for the affair and not been sufficiently publicized the moderator arrogantly replied. That had been announced all over social media and several emails have been sent after mine people to attend a vaguely elderly woman stood up in the back of the crowd and said very succinctly. And formally told the city officials I do not have a computer she spun around and stormed out leaving the panel silent for more than a moment I'm going to try to find her and enlist her in your very battle very just battle against the IRS. Unrelated the 85 of Villanova Georgetown finals been mentioned twice this week I was not a talented sports journalist of the game but I was in a freshman dormant villain over for that you job set being a DC PG native was a complex affair because I grew up supporting Georgetown pretty epic game pretty epic celebration afterwards. Yeah sure from Tim in the Midwest can you please tell Jeff Maru welcome from me I finally watch 21 and want him to know where that royalty check came from maybe next I'll watch Mr. 3000. And from Brian in far from in Denmark. Oh in Denmark at a New Year's party we ended up talking about where we were born a man I hadn't met before said he was born in Bethlehem the rest of the night my only thought was he would crush the famous people from where I was born segment. Thanks for a great show. Yeah if you're out on your bike tonight as always do where what. Look mother I want to go to work in one hour we are the pros from Dover and we figure to crack this kids chest and get out to the golf course before it gets dark. I've been away I'm doing vegetation halfway across the world my local saying that's all food. I'm going down. 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I'm going back, here to win just every genie, in a shinin' double valley, this place, how I hold me like a lover, busy smiling with each sunrise, and the heaven here on dirt, boys, baby, they're for me, they're for me, they're for me, they're for me, they're for me, they're for me, when the white flowers bloom on the hillside, their perfume goes back to the ears, find in your bed music, ringing in my ears, where the girl of my dreams. Every day they just bloom by like a speaker's rain, every fell apart, like lovers often do, that's the thing about this town, we're young and evil, my, in a caddy's spell I've done missing you, when the white flowers bloom on the hillside, their perfume goes back to the ears, find in your bed music, ringing in my ears, where the girl of my dreams. Find in your bed music, ringing in my ears, where the girl of my dreams.