Kona no Brian needs a fan. Want to talk to Conan? Visit teamcoCo.com slash call Conan. Okay, let's get started. Hey Chris, welcome to Kona needs a fan with Conan and special guest Kevin Neillin. Kevin Neill is joining us today Chris. How are you? I'm doing well on yourselves. Oh great. We're doing okay. Where are you coming to us from Chris? The dirty tea tuk-tun two-sign Arizona. Nice. All right. Wow. I'm gonna say Tijuana. I know. Uh-huh. And tell us a little bit about yourself. I just have a little scrap of paper here that says that you are a, this is impressive. You're a luchador. Is that right? You're a wrestler. Yeah, I've been in the wrestling business for 27 years now. Okay. This is incredible. And you wrestle yourself. Do you have a- He wrestles himself. Yeah. We've all done that. That's a lot of fun. What's the unadulatory fare? There's a fix in. He always throws it to himself. Christopher, uh, you have a character, right? When you're wrestling? Yeah, I'm fully masked. Uh, I have a character named the prophet. The prophet. That's a great name. That's a great name for a wrestler. That's a great name for a wrestler. And do we have a photograph? I think we have a photograph of you. Oh my god. Oh my goodness. Look at that. Wow. That is impressive. Thank you. You are the prophet. Tell us when you're in character as the- These are great. Geez. Look at this. Tell us a little bit about this character, the prophet. Uh, do you know, you someone who believes these are prophet or is your character really a prophet? Is he have magical powers? Can he see the future? Uh, it's more of a mystique type thing. A very quiet, um, just straight to the point. I get in the ring and do my job. Yep. And just represent myself that way. Do you have a signature move you do, Chris? It's called the prophecy. Oh, what was that evolved? Yeah, tell us about the prophecy. Do you- this sounds great. So the signature move is called the prophecy. And at some point during your battle, you say, now it's time for the prophecy. And then what do you do? So I put their arm over mine. I picked them up sideways like a body slam. I swing their body out and sit down and slam it. My god. That's so prophetic. Can I say something? I'm so prophetic, man. Can I say something? That is a greater prophecy than anything I've read in the old or new testament. And I think I think if those were the prophecies, people would really pay attention. There'd be much more religion. Absolutely. Yeah. That's very impressive. Thank you. You have to be an amazing athlete to be a wrestler and to do it at the level that you've been doing in it for so long. Have you had some bad injuries? Tell us about that. I think I've been pretty fortunate, but around 10 years in, I did break my elbow. I had a surgery on that. But the weirdest thing that happened in me is I came down with a condition called the rapidoma analysis. And that's basically where my muscles were breaking down and being filtered through my kidneys. So my urine was black. And that's bad. I was in the... You don't know? No, no, no. You know, not yet. You're about... Chris, get to the bad part. Yeah, get to the part where it's really... I mean, I don't think there's not a person here who's not peeing some black urine right now. But wait a minute, why did this happen? Why... What is it about this condition? It breaks down your muscles and then converts it into a thick sludge that you then pee out. When you're all... If you do that while you're standing on the ropes in the corner, that's kind of a defense, like an oil sludge. It's like a... You know, you should have done Chris. You should have called your character... You should have called your character this squid. And just whenever you're about to lose, you shoot out this black stream. And your opponent is immediately immobilized. How many costumes do you have, Chris? Probably around 15. Okay. Do you have one for more of a formal fight? Or is it... They're all the same, just different colors. And I want to show some empathy here. Kevin, just stop for a second. I'm loving it. Yeah, I know you're loving it, but I want to make sure Chris, how did you get rid of this terrible disease? And are you cured now? And then we'll get on to all the bits about... Maybe get a cumberbund. You know... So basically... Do you ever wear a condition? What happened to this disease? They needed to flush my system out. So I was in the hospital for a week on an IV. That was all I was doing. So it was for me a vacation. Okay. It's always a vacation when you can just squirt out some black urine in a hospital. So then you recovered and the disease does not continue once it's flushed out. Is that correct? I haven't got it again, but I'll honestly say I don't think I was over 100% after that. Oh, I have problems. I don't look like you have black bee coming out of your ears right now from those wires. Oh, those are your headphones, Kevin. I'm talking about the wires. Yeah, I know. Chris, let's get back to the cumberbund. Yeah. Chris, I'm sorry that I asked you momentarily about your mouth. So I'm really sorry about it. So yeah, so you went where you went, it was all black. Hey, what do you wear? Tuxedo and the ring at her? You got a fan? Yeah, the fans, Chris. What's your fan base? To song. To song I was on, I built a pretty good following here. We do regular shows at the re-alcohol theater. Nice. Hey, are you a good guy or a bad guy? Are you the heel or are you the hero? So I've been the hero for the majority of my career, but two years ago I turned hill and had a little feud with another wrestler. That was the last time I wrestled. I haven't had a match in two years. Okay, who's your arch enemy? Did you have a nemesis? Someone who the prophet always hated, you know, the cumberbund or whatever the other guy was? Well, the coolest thing I've done, a storyline-wise, was I had a feud against myself, the false prophet. Oh, wow. That's a great idea. Yeah, we stressed it out for a year, year and a half. We had a series of matches and we were playing tricks, you know, look over here while he's over there and vice versa, so it was fun. But wait a minute, did you play both characters? So I had one of my original trainees became my disciple. The false prophet. That's a great idea. The false prophet is a tribute. And with the false prophet, try to do the prophecy on you. Yes, I knew it. As agile as me, so we're able to do each other's moves. Now, if you each did the prophecy to each other, was it one of those things where it cancels out and there's like a bright flash? Yeah, black hole. Yeah. These are good questions, Kevin. I'm sorry. This isn't sticky enough for my partner here. Can I get to it with like a real question? Yeah, sure. Chris, you grew up as a Mormon, correct? I did. And did you watch wrestling growing up? Not till teenage years. Do you think the fact that you grew up in the Mormon faith steered you towards more of a religious character? That did, but the other factor was the three six mafia because their record label was called profit entertainment. Tell me about three six mafia. You're going crazy here. Top famous hip hop group, right? Group from the 90s and 2000s. Yeah, yeah. And so, and so you were a fan of their music and then you saw that their record label was the prophet or the prophecy. It was profit entertainment. Nice. So I kind of ripped that off. We don't rip it off. You say I was in a small mosh. I was in spires, you know. I'm trying to protect you from legal action. Chris, you haven't wrestled in two years, right? Yeah, it's just really hard on my body these days. Just trying to take it easy. Yeah, how do you stay busy? Well, with the wrestling business, besides doing that, I also rent rings and get books for festivals. And I'm also in the food world too, trying to start a food trailer. Oh, tell us about that. So I love Mexican food and I worked in a restaurant for a few years. I just came up with an OAS fresco's drink line. So I want to start selling OAS fresco's. But I want to call it lucha fresco, fight fresh. Nice. Hey, wait, that's a good idea. I would drink lucha fresco. I could do an ad for you. You know, I would do it. I would be a, and I know that you'll do an ad for anyone. Yeah, I'll do it. I'll do anything for anybody. You know, you know, the thing about drinks, what are they? Is this water or is it their potato water with the ingredient? And then sugar. So those are always healthy. I think a lot of times, you know, when you're selling a product, it's really the packaging that sells it. You know, like if you see these topo-cheeko bottles, they look so refreshing. Yeah. A little condensation on them and cold bottle. What's your packaging looks like, Chris? That's not about the packaging at all. That's just a cold bottle. Any cold bottle has condensation on it. Chris, I'm sorry. How do you give it a company credit for it being cold? You're our guest, but yet he's at all. You know, I love the new Fort Fiesta. Oh, what do you like about it? Let's got some dew on it. Chris, if you want to call it, you might have... It's been outside and we're in Portland. Yeah, that's what I like about it. Just nice when it has that dew, that dewy look. Does it make you feel good to do that? It did. Does it make you feel good to pound some people? I crushed you. You could call me later. We'll talk about it. Okay. I like this idea. I like this idea. And what are you doing to make? We'll get a packaging and you put another one. So I do have clear bottles. They're very sleek and I do have a logo already. I might modify it, but I was just at a pop up market this week and I sold at least 15 bottles there. So that's my start. Okay. And do they have each one? Is it coming different flavors? Yeah, my main flavors right now is Hamika and Tomatino. My favorite flavors, by the way. Those are, I mean, this sounds promising. I think you might be onto something. Do you have any big money backers behind you? No, have you taken an short tank? No. Would you take it on short tank? I don't know. I mean, it's been done before. I was frescoes as it could exist, but maybe the way the packaging and the marketing might sell more than the other brand. I like the idea of lucha fresca. I think that's great. I like the name. It's great. It's great. Chris, I do have been practicing for like four years now and I don't want to do a lingo. I'm still not fluent. But that lucha fresco, man, that comes out nice. What are you talking about? It comes out nice. The way he says it. Oh, the way he says it. It also comes out nice. You're just so, so, such a strange man. So you haven't wrestled. Do you think you're done wrestling? You're wrestling days over. It's not to me like if you've done, if you haven't wrestled in two years, maybe that's it. No, come back. I'm not retired. All right. Pretty much in the wrestling business. Even if you retire, you don't. Right. Because you always get sucked back in. But, but I have a wrestling ring. I still train and stuff like that. So I'm trying to just teach the new people. Chris, I hate to make this about me, but I, a number of years ago, did a show that I was very proud of in Mexico City. And is it have a pony in it? What was a pony in it? Why would there be a pony in it? Because it was a show in Mexico. Yeah. What's the connection? You don't travel much there. Um, you're just bringing up Tijuana again. Just calling him. Oh, so I'm in a donkey. I'm in a donkey. I'm in a donkey. Call him, Chris is dying, man. I'm in a donkey. Yeah, he was in a pony instead of donkey. Hey, I really don't get out much. I don't get out much. Gavin, I don't get out much. So I didn't know that ponies in Mexico City are synonymous. He meant don a key. He meant don a key. He meant don a key. Hey, God, that's a Chris God. I'm going to have a stapler when you went. Stapler. I would have a stapler. Hey, do you bet? You know, Mexico City. Oh, God. You're doing the bet. Yeah. You're doing that. How many things? Look at Conan doing his comedy thing. Hey, off of a bit. No. Bit off of bed is just as legitimate as any bit. Hey, Christopher, I did this a bunch of shows in Mexico City. They're very proud of those shows. One of the things I wanted to ask you was, did you see my luchador segment? I actually went into a ring in Mexico City and I had my own luchador character that I dressed up as. Anyone can see this as they go on. What's it called? YouTube. I could pull it up now. There it is. The crazy rooster. I was the crazy rooster. There I am. The guy with local. I wrestled. What did you have you? Have you are you familiar with that segment and B? How do you think I did? Yeah, I've seen it multiple times. I love all your travel shows and that episode means a lot to me. Okay. I really know any of my stuff, Chris. In Mexico? No. It's all out Conan. We'll get through this, Chris, just hang in there. Well, what did you think of my wrestling moves? Be honest. Yeah, I was. I will say you are athletic and I know you have all this energy. So you pulled it off very well. One of the guys in the ring with you is a former champion of mine. Oh, wow. So you actually do you know where I was in Mexico City? Do you know the gym I was in? No, I do. Okay, it was just a gym. Okay. Yeah, I think if I had to really wrestle, I'd be killed almost instantly. Let me broken it. Everyone was going very easy on me because they knew, oh, here's the comedian. We got to go easy on him. I have a lot of respect for what you do. And I think I'd have died within seconds of me. I think before I entered the ring, I would have died. Oh, yeah. You know, I went to one of these wrestling matches a couple years ago in New Jersey. Whatever that big stadium is. And it was packed. It was like a super bowl. It's huge. And the ring in the bottom, John Cena come. Yeah, Cena. People going crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I never knew it was that big. I did know it was that big. It's been big for a long time. I'm sorry. And I know because I like to read. Sure. Okay. Well, I also enjoy a book every now and then. But I've known for a while that wrestling is massive. So I'm glad that you caught up to what's happening. You know, everything's massive. I just didn't know it. Uh huh. Because I live in my small world of knowledge. Okay. Chris. Chris, I'm sorry. We're back to you. Yeah. I'm not about going in. Uh, and his career. But I'm impressed that you keep coming up with new ideas. You're trying new stuff. I mean, that's, that's the game. We've all got to keep going. We got to keep trying things. And so I root for you. I do root for you. And this lucha fresco drink. I think it sounds great. Thank you. Appreciate it. Yeah. Everything I do to this day is basically out of necessity to get me to the next spot in life where I'm trying to go. So I've learned how to well just to build rings and, you know, learn how to cook to sell it to make money. It's like, yep. Who do you like? Who's your favorite wrestler? Probably Mick Foley and Ray Mysterio Jr. What did you like about them, particularly? Uh, Mick Foley is the hardcore legend. He just gives up his whole body to the business and just does everything he has to, to make an impact. Mysterio is the biggest influence for me because I started becoming a lucha door, inspired by what he could do. And that made me think, what can I do it? So 27 years later, the answer is yes. Isn't that? It's funny. You're talking about wrestling. It's really the same with comedy. We grow up seeing people and you identify people that you want to emulate them. You had that, right, Kevin? Yeah, everybody does. Do you have grown up? I'm three people. One with Chris actually. His eyes Chris, yeah. Chris, no, it was Annie Kaufman, Albert Brooks and Steve Martin. Yeah, yeah. And you? You never really did stand up though. No, I never did stand up. But you did it at my analogs on your shows. Yeah. Uh, that's good. I'll put down before. Um, it's, he's mentioned. Did you feel comfortable doing those minor lungs? Yeah, I did. Really? Yeah. Okay. I, uh, Chris is watching this like watching his parents fight. Yeah. I'm sorry about this Chris. Um, yeah, I had the same thing was Steve Martin and I mean, I'll also Albert Brooks, I mean, watching his films, watching the stuff that he would do on the tonight show. Uh, that really inspired me. This, uh, conceptual comedy is that, that blew me away. And of course, uh, Python, when Python finally showed up on my television, that blew my mind. SC TV. Um, well, I was basically just asked about comics, but okay. Okay. Well, let's keep it. I don't really want to history with comedy. I've got a narrow you word. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. History of comedy. No, no, I like, I like, you know, I'm on the Python and I like, you know, I like, uh, a bit off of it, huh? A little bit off of it. I'm a bit off of it. Oh, yeah. I do like it. I'm a bit off of it. Um, we criticize what we are. Uh, okay. Well, listen, um, Christopher, it's very unusual. I've never had Kevin here when I talk to a fan and we've tried this once. We won't do it again. Uh, that was known in anyway. Yeah. It's just going to be Kevin from now on. But I understand you might have a question. Is that right? If you were a tag team, you and Kevin, well, would be your characters or your name. That's interesting. Oh, yeah. So we're a team. Um, the Mabos. The Mabos because we're kind of right? Yeah. We're very similar. And then we could be a Mabos where we have to, we enter the ring together, sort of in mesh together. Exactly. And then we split apart one fight. And then that has to be, I got a better idea. Are you saying I shouldn't have run with this idea? I got a better idea. What? The Siamese twins. We fight in one costume. Wait. So we're both in one costume. And so the other one just doesn't do any, well, one of only one can fight at a time. And the other is just, is just sitting there? No, they both fight the same time. No, both fight. It's much better if we're attached. But when I'm fighting Chris, you're just doing nothing, but looking around. As always. And yeah, and kind of, yeah, you're just inert. And then when I tag you, you switch and I swing to the rear. And now I'm behind you and I'm looking at the crowd. And I'm inert. What move is that called, Chris? What we call that move? The little reach around. Yeah, it's called the reach around. Yeah. That's not the old reach around. Yeah. Hey, look, they're doing the reach around. Connor and Kevin are doing the reach around. You guys would just be, you guys would die instantly. I think you're right. A moment that you walk into the ring. You would, everybody would hate you. Because you guys would be doing so many bits. We'd be doing bits in the ring. We'd be arguing and doing bits. And then whichever one wasn't wrestling, the others just hanging off his back on the phone on the phone and doing bits on the phone buying stuff. The most hated duo in all of wrestling. Yeah. Everyone eats you guys so much. They were coming out of the walkway. You got to admit, we would be hated. We would be good heels. But that's good to be hated in the ring, right? If you get a lot of hate coming out of you, that's a good, you're doing your job properly. That's like Conan here. Okay. He's doing a good job, by the way. No, you're not cool. Just not cool. Chris, what are you doing tonight? I'm going to record drums with my band. Oh, I'm going to. Tell us about your band. I'm in a punk rock band here in Tucson called Planet Strick 9, PS9. That is great. And so you play drums? I'm the drummer. And we're going to put out a record pretty soon. I just recorded like 20 tracks. Is it kind of like thrash metal? What are we talking about? How hardcore is this? It's kind of like bad religion and those type of punk bands, bouncing souls. Yep. You get a, where do you perform? I've the re-out to theater sometimes, one, anyone to all here. And then we usually go to Bizby Arizona. That's where the band originally was from. Chris isn't a music we could dance to. You could get down to that, but you might get hit in the face. I'm about to hit him in the face. He's going to get hit in the face. He won't have anything to do with your music. No, I like to go to the re-out to one dance. Yeah, I'm sure you do. Oh my God. If you guys were attacking, you would fight each other more than you would fight the other people. Yeah, the wrestler. The wrestler would just be like, wait, what's going on? You and I would just be wailing on each other in one costume wailing on each other for the old rich around. We each reach around. All right, Chris, I'm going to let you go, Christopher, Christopher Hack. You are, you're a gentleman and you seem like a very cool guy and thank you very much for listening to our nonsense. Yeah, you're a good man. I apologize for calling it. And I apologize for Kevin, but I don't apologize for you because you seem like a cool guy. Good luck with the bands and the drinks. Thank you so much. It was a pleasure. Yes, Chris. I just want to shout out my company's called Rockstar Wrestling Alliance because I do music and wrestling and put it together. Cool. Well, I always leave room for the plug. Carson taught me that. Carson Daly. Hey, Chris, paintings, KevinNeilinart.com. Unbelievable. Yeah. If you ever have trouble, just down 911. All right, man. Take care. Bye-bye. Cool. Thank you. Bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.