Episode 900 | "A Whole Tray of Ice"
201 min
•Feb 4, 20262 months agoSummary
Episode 900 of The Joe Budden Podcast features extensive Grammy Awards coverage, discussion of the Clips vs. Kendrick Lamar album debate, analysis of various performances, and tangential conversations about relationships, patriarchy, and hip-hop legacy disputes including Pete Rock vs. DJ Premier and T-Rex's battle payment controversy.
Insights
- The Grammy Awards continue to show inconsistent recognition of hip-hop artists relative to their cultural impact, with Drake receiving only 5 wins from 55 nominations and Nicki Minaj receiving zero wins despite 12 nominations
- Producer visibility and performance expectations have fundamentally shifted in hip-hop, with modern producers expected to be entertainers and personalities rather than behind-the-scenes technicians
- Contractual disputes in battle rap reveal tensions between friendship and business obligations, with performers increasingly demanding payment upfront regardless of event completion
- Patriarchal traditions in marriage (name-taking, dowry systems) persist despite being recognized as rooted in property ownership concepts, creating ongoing relationship negotiation challenges
- Kendrick Lamar's rapid ascent to Grammy dominance (27 awards) represents a generational shift in how the Recording Academy values hip-hop artistry and cultural representation
Trends
Grammy Awards recognition gap widening between streaming/cultural impact and traditional award metrics for hip-hop artistsProducer-as-celebrity model becoming standard expectation rather than exception in modern music industryBattle rap professionalization creating formal contractual frameworks previously handled informallyRenegotiation of traditional marriage customs among younger generations, particularly regarding name changes and financial responsibilityIncreased scrutiny of Recording Academy voting patterns and potential double standards in hip-hop recognitionStreaming platform consolidation of award show distribution (Disney/ABC securing Grammy rights through 2036)Anonymous document releases and conspiracy theories gaining traction in hip-hop discourse despite lack of verificationSpoken word category expansion creating genre boundary disputes and gatekeeping concernsFemale artists in women's basketball (Caitlin Clark) receiving mainstream sports media coverage comparable to NBA playersNFL-ESPN partnership deepening with minority ownership stakes replacing traditional arm's-length relationships
Topics
Grammy Awards 2025 Winners and SnubsKendrick Lamar vs. Kendrick Lamar Album RecognitionHip-Hop Artist Grammy UnderrepresentationProducer Visibility and Performance StandardsBattle Rap Contractual DisputesMarriage Traditions and Patriarchal SystemsSpoken Word Category LegitimacyTrevor Noah Grammy Hosting PerformanceLauryn Hill Performance AnalysisDrake Grammy Recognition DisparityNicki Minaj Grammy Snub DiscussionBill Belichick Hall of Fame VotingPete Rock vs. DJ Premier Legacy DebateT-Rex Battle Payment ControversyCaitlin Clark NBA Player Comparisons
Companies
Disney
Signed 10-year deal with Recording Academy to broadcast Grammy Awards on ABC, Hulu, and Disney+ through 2036
ESPN
Acquiring NFL Network and Red Zone distribution rights while receiving minority ownership stake in exchange
PrizePicks
Sports betting platform offering $50 instant bonus for first $5 lineup with early payout options
Waymo
Autonomous vehicle service mentioned as example of technology adoption changing street presence
Universal
Drake's record label; potential reconciliation discussed as prerequisite for future Grammy success
People
Kendrick Lamar
Won Best Rap Album for GNX; dominated Grammy Awards with 27 total wins, representing generational shift in hip-hop re...
Clips
Debuted comeback album; lost Best Rap Album to Kendrick despite strong critical reception and cultural momentum
Drake
Has only 5 Grammy wins from 55 nominations; discussed as underrepresented artist relative to cultural impact
Nicki Minaj
Has zero Grammy wins despite 12 nominations; cited as most egregious Grammy snub in hip-hop history
Lil Wayne
Posted about being left out of Grammy nominations; has 5 wins from 20+ nominations despite being former #1 rapper
Lauryn Hill
Performed at Grammys; hosts debated whether her performance was best of night despite vocal variations from original ...
Pharrell Williams
Won Global Impact Award; criticized for generic 'keep working' speech despite opportunity to address meaningful topics
Bad Bunny
Won Album of the Year; discussed as culturally defining album winner with strong speech moment
Billie Eilish
Won Song of the Year for 'Guess'; discussed as beneficiary of technicality allowing re-released songs to compete
Trevor Noah
Hosted Grammys for sixth and final time; criticized for edgy jokes and awkward moments with artists
Deontay Wilder
Defeated T.O. at boxing event; discussed as elite fighter; alleged Tyson Fury cheated in previous fights
Tyson Fury
Accused by Deontay Wilder of using improperly wrapped gloves in previous fights
Shakur Stevenson
Defeated T.O. in boxing match; dismantled opponent to prove elite status despite previous criticism
Pete Rock
In dispute with DJ Premier over legacy and recognition; Pete Rock claims not motivated by jealousy
DJ Premier
In dispute with Pete Rock; Pete Rock feels wronged by Premier in their professional relationship
T-Rex
Had seizure during battle with Beasley; demanding payment and rebooking fee despite incomplete performance
Beasley
Promoter of battle event where T-Rex had seizure; refusing to pay full amount for incomplete battle
Bill Belichick
Not voted into Pro Football Hall of Fame on first ballot; voters allegedly punishing him for cheating allegations
Tom Brady
Discussed as likely first-ballot Hall of Famer despite involvement in deflate-gate scandal
Caitlin Clark
WNBA player compared to Peyton Pritchard by Reggie Miller; hosts criticized comparison as disrespectful
Quotes
"I'm still killing these niggas. That's the first thing that comes to my mind."
Joe Budden•Early in episode discussing biggest lesson between episodes 800-900
"You don't get to write God's story, you know? You don't get to do that."
Brittany Renner's new partner•Discussing relationship and overcoming past challenges
"If you're not going to do it in the moment where it matters, which is the Grammys, then it's just Jelly Roll talking. I don't give a fuck what Jelly Roll thinks."
Joe Budden•Discussing Jelly Roll's political statement deferral
"Some of these things are patriarchy in nature, but you pick and choose when it's beneficial for you to be that."
Mark Lamont Hill•Discussing marriage traditions and selective patriarchy
"This is probably one of the last years where it's only humans on the red carpet."
will.i.am•Predicting AI presence at future Grammy Awards
Full Transcript
The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts are for entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart, or our own. Enjoy the show. God damn it The first three minutes always touch Nujo Nujo Nujo Mic check man So happy to be here That's what's going on out there Yo sign up to the Patreon Peace salute Shout out to the Patroni Shout out to the hate listeners Shout out to the ladies Single and involved Shout out to the happy couple Shout out to the miserable couple Shout out to the musicians Shout out to those of you Trying to be musicians that are trash Shout out to who else? The kids, the cheering out there Shout out to y'all We believe the children are the Shout out to the teachers Shout out to the nurses Y'all been striking longer than I thought Did they end that yet? I ain't seen the people about it Y'all don't know Y'all have no idea Niggas with six family members It's fucked up They favorite nurses They're paying 11,000 a week For out-of-state nurses That's crazy Yeah 11 a week I wish I would be in the hospital bed And try to get a new nurse in there A couple of my nurses Talk over. A couple of my nurses. You got nurses? Yeah. I got a bunch of nurse friends. You're not in a week. They're paying them. All right. That's what that's going on. So you got the outside one that's coming in and the one that's coming in. You got both sides coming. You're killing the game, boy. He's been a couple of my nurses. Imani, is that you? Holy shit. These niggas, he is crazy, bro. That's cool. This nigga crazy. What up, boy? What up? Oh, nigga. Started directly on bullshit, I see. Okay. I told you you could tell right away. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. You're right. I'm in a good mood. I'm in a great mood. I'm staying silent. All right, listen. First and last time, listeners, check this out. When the cast gets on bullshit, I do intend to stay silent. That's a smart move. That's one. There's no? No, sometimes I throw it. Stay silent sometimes. If it's going the way he wants. Oh, okay, got it. Some of them are prepared to stand on ledges that I'm not sure that I am. Right? That's one. Two, if you're new here, I'm not well in the head. I'm sore, bro. The way that my brain operates, the way that I observe, you may hear some things that no one else in the world thinks but me and you may hear that a lot during our Grammy conversation I'm not trying to get any of y'all to think what I'm thinking I'm just telling you what I think about some shit that's the end I mean I just know I was watching and write notes that nobody in the world got you where's my phone like my first note is about you actually oh yeah yeah look park should be in rufus du soul because i was watching the pre-show and they got all these groups that i don't know who the fuck it is here they come they pull up three three or four white boys in black leather biker mock neck jacket i'm like who is this and say Rufus DeSauw. I'm like, oh, okay. That's like some white boy band De La Soul. And I'm like, oh, shit. This is punch group. I could be a Rufus DeSauw. That's what I'm saying. Yo, Rufus, if y'all hire him, give me a shout. Oh, nah. This is you right here, Park. What I'm saying. Park is definitely in Rufus DeSauw. But nobody else watching the Grammys was thinking that at all. I'm not cross-life. Another one. And then I'm shutting up and we can start. You niggas get bitches. They killing them out here They got Europe Oh man What the fuck was I saying The other one Oh one more And then I'm tossing it to my Trusted panel of friends During the pre-show I saw a commercial For avocado From Mexico I did They played that a couple times I had a worse commercial though Way old up now Because some of the audience is confused still. Me too. Listen, I've never seen a commercial for any avocado. I had a couple in the Super Bowl. Neither one. Let alone avocado from Mexico. And every commercial after that was starring a Mexican. I don't give a fuck if it was Geico. Whatever. Victoria's Secret a Mexican came to that screen I was like you know what the guy got had a hat on I'm the only one in the world that's enjoying the pre-show commercials like this nah the one that fucked me up as a 2000's music aficionado fan I don't know who Jazzy Faye or Sierra whoever approved 1-2 prep is fucking crazy you know Yes Why was that crying They did one two prep That's crazy That was absolutely crazy But all of those Got one of the songs One two prep is fucking nuts No this is absolutely nuts What's going on Anyway I'm happy to see you Happy to see everybody Alright it's tradition Come on, man. Every year around this time, you know what time it is. Some of y'all been here for long enough. I might not stop, take the cap. 76 floors, you can call me the doctor. Hey, really? I play it, Sam. Dr. James. I got the 76 floor to join. Yeah, baby! I won, he's fucking crazy. They win. Blacks, what up, boy? They win. Fired by Bossy, I'm a Charlie, I'm some fire. Everybody took shots, hit my body up, I'm tired. Fill me up, break me down, and fill me up again. He like Hulk, he needs you back to kill your ass again. This Hulk got blowed, though he's no big and pop, but he's close. I'm closer when they got me fighting, I'm going. Ad Still You need a metal, it's a studio you settle Every step you take, they remind you to get old So it's tough being Bobby Brown to be Bobby then You gotta be Bobby now Now the question is, is to have had Listen man, it's not every y'all could be here Turn that up Turn up for me I-97, you heard, you know what I'm getting fucked up like J-C Yeah Everybody wanna be king, this shot's rainy lane The balcony with holes in the green When you're not committed, I'll get distracted by the screams Everybody get 10 on my team Yeah, congratulations skills man. What's up? VA on a streak this weekend. Turn it up. Turn it up. It's I said Virginia nigga. Wake it up out there. I buy pictures, you buy instructions. You buy watches out my collections. Misery's too late, your aggression. Jealousy's turned into a session. Reality TV is mud wrestling. Some side checks I know better than. Beware of my name, that there's delegating. You know I know where you're delegating. Crush you to pieces, I'm a brother. Y'all think Jav walked the grannies? That's a good question. You think Jim Joseph? Yeah, I think Jim did. Famous, keep relevant. We all in a room with his element. Case with Jav's your element. Big Jersey, Big Jersey New York City, fill you up, we're open up I know by now you get the message I'm going to say an example, I'm going to be sick All we're talking about is just getting rich Everybody traveling right now Everybody get ready for Super Bowl This system which stands in It don't take much to put two into Your lucky dreams are now losing you Money so I don't like or you're cool You're gaffin' for air now, beautiful Come on man Let's go Congratulations Happy Black History Month Hey Turn this TV off, turn this TV off, turn this TV off, turn this TV off Wait a minute Ain't no other king than his rap thing, they crippling Nothing but my children, one shot to his appearance I'm in a city with a flag beginning thrown like it was past interference Padlock around the building Crash pulling up in a marked truck, just to play freeze tag With a bone a pick like it was Steve had So when I made it out, I made it about 50k from a show Trying to show niggas the ropes before they hunt down I'm prophetic, they only talk about it, I get it On these heels for saving face, these cosmetics I mean I gotta take the level my aesthetic hurry up and get your muscle up We got the climate Nick a random by the next mess up Oh, BG legs down Wait, you could die Wait, what up? Get full of the seat Let these cowas tell it Walk into a knees with the etiquette LA LA Free! I'll get this one Ah Free about to get one for this Oh, free Ah Yeah Turn the TV off Turn it Hey Turn the TV off Turn the TV off Turn the TV off Turn the TV off Turn the TV off All right, man, we got a great show lined up for you. Come on, man. Come on, man. Keep this applause going for the greatest show on the World Wide Web. and you can tell the world I said alright man come on man let me get these drops out of the way for the best crew on earth so happy y'all to be here with us today shout out to everybody traveling everybody not traveling who is that? and Flip Flip Flip Hey body that just been on some In the house shit Where it's nice and toasty What? Keeping it warm You know what I mean? Come on man Shout out to the New Yorkers Your car is stuck Been there for a week Yup Shout out to the old school niggas out there With the shovels getting money Digging out cars Charging about a buck Buck fifty Buck twenty Just park on the snowbank Fuck it I seen a couple cars Like at a full Fucking angle Damn man That's horrible But You know what I mean Big Jersey Whenever I'm in the building Shout out to everybody With fucking garages Driveways You know what I mean Fuck y'all Somewhere indoors Where you can put your vehicle You know what I mean It's nice You know what I mean It's nice It's nice Hop skipping the jump It's right there Three minutes away man Three minutes Three minutes away Shout out to the Uber drivers I know y'all are Up up up Kill them up I kill them Up Kill them I told you my shit was $90 Damn back the other day. You didn't tell me. We don't talk. I was talking. I said it when I came up here. Your Uber was what? $90 each way. Oh, light. What Uber did you get? Uber Black? What's light? Which Uber was it? XL. Regular. I'm not. Nah, XL ain't regular? Any line on Uber. It wasn't. It was. It was cheaper. Actually, it was cheaper. I'm glad you didn't get Uber XL. It was. It's all right, though. You hate it. It's cool. You got that good sienna? I don't know what it was. It was $90. I don't give a fuck I don't want to talk But other than that I'm good Shared Uber Y'all niggas get too much money to do shared Uber Yeah I'm good If one of y'all do a shared Uber you're fired I'm with you You gotta put boundaries I'm a blogger We gotta put boundaries On what's allowable and what's not in friendships. Some of y'all already teetered that line with me, but a shared Uber. Listen, man. Greatest show on turf, greatest cast in the world. What episode is this? Nine fucking hundred. Oh, come on. Wake it up, nigga. You crazy. Nigga, I know you type. Wake it up, nigga. Nine hundred. I came here hype. You want to fucking do all that other shit, nigga. It's nine hundred, nigga. You made it, nigga. It was fine. It was fine. Nine hundred. We did nine hundred. Wake it up, nigga. Nine hundred. That's crazy. Huh? Stop, man. Fuck that. Make some noise, y'all. Yes. Stop, man. Let me fuck that. Y'all can call. This is episode 900. Yeah, man. Congrats. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Congratulations to you guys, man. This is so good, y'all. Congratulations to you, boy. Everybody that's here has been here for long enough to celebrate. We all celebrated 800. That's crazy. We're about as fast. Yeah. In fact, how do you feel, champ? The 800s was a riot. The 800s was definitely Patreon is fucking me up now I look to the top I'm just noticing that The content number is up there That shit says something crazy Like a lot of people You count that too? I don't count anything I just come to work and get to it So this is great When they asked me last night If I wanted to put some balloons up I was like Nah For some reason I felt like the Knicks Putting up the fucking and putting up the end season tourney. Like, I'm conflicted with that. Because on one side, don't compare us to the Knicks. What did you say? Don't compare us to the Knicks. I didn't mean the recent conversation about should they raise that banner or not. Like, so, yeah, now I'll wait until a thousand. A thousand, you'll be doing something, right? At a thousand. What? Hold on, a thousand. We're going to be in a balloon. There you go. Yeah, a thousand. That's like if it's your first day, you've got to do it big. Got to. Yeah. I don't like that as you get older, time moves faster. As hell. That's whack. Yeah. And you sleep a lot? You be hauling ass. Yeah. Seriously. Motherfuckers that wake up at six and maximize day to day, they don't move as fast, but we'd be knocked up. Nah, that time shit is starting to zoom. I ain't going to hold you, but it's cool, man. What's the biggest lesson you learned between 800 and 900? Oh. that's a good question let me think about it that's a real good question you always got some great CNN questions you gotta fucking think about biggest lesson from 800 to 900 I'll think about it I'll come back to me the first thing that comes to mind is I'm still killing these niggas I got to get through mad There's mad shit in my brain Before I get to like the lesson Too much shit to celebrate I can't fuck it That's the first thing to come to your mind That's the first thing Still killing out here God damn Yeah somewhere in the middle I'll come back to that question Listen man episode 900 Brought to you by powered by, fueled by PrizePix. PrizePix gang. Salute to PrizePix. Salute to all our partners. Salute to everybody that's just helped along the way. This is awesome. Now I'm in humble mode. There you go. After I shit on niggas, I get humble. You got to get out of the way first. I get humble, man. Get out of the way. I got Big Queen slipping the building. Couldn't have got the 900 without him. You already know what he did to the platform. You already know what he did to the content game. Come on, stop playing with us, man. Next to him. Come on. They don't even know why he's still here. They confused. They have no idea what every week he is fighting for his life out there as to why he associates with us. And that's why I fuck with this guy, man. Couldn't have got the 900 this way without him. Our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill, in the building next to him, man. All right. Next to him. Come on, man. Stop playing with him. Come on. Stop playing with him, man. You know that humble shit nigga smile. You know they're announcing this official for the month of January. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Part of the month. Part of the month. Part of the month. Actually, hold on. Part of the month. You excited? Part of the month. He happy. This is the second one? No, I ain't. This is first or second one? Second. You are old. You are old grumpy nigga. Let me introduce this first real quick. What the fuck is that? You got me some cupcakes? Our good friend, Vic Solomon, you know, he made our NBA basketballs, brought the trophy up here. He said he wanted to create something to incentivize part of the month. That shit look dope. Whatever it is. We start with this. Oh, shit. Oh, that's fly. Oh, that's fly. That's not a joke, yo. Okay. Okay. Okay. That nigga's gotta play That nigga's gotta play What's going on? He's piling it down Get the fuck out of here nigga Get that shit the ball nigga That shit heavy You gotta wear that boy I feel it That shit heavy This shit is fire Look at this Oh no this shit Are you crazy? That shit fire Shout out to Vic for that. Shout out to Vic. Thanks, Vic. Thanks, Vic. Thanks, man. That's funny. You got to put that on, though. I mean, that should start this month. Right. Right. Nigga, it should start. Yo, Mark won this shit $90. He just sent it to me last month. He got us. So he was like, and I told him I'm going to hold it. That's the next part of the month. No, it was the middle of the month. Okay, okay. So I'm gonna hold it until we do the next part of the month and then I'll you know present it So why do you at least have can you give a word? Yeah, you gotta think something to the people now. You're not gonna wear it Is there anything that you could say You know I'm good. Hold your thoughts. Hold your thoughts. Wait, wait. Huh? We good. We good. Why niggas stand up? Why would you pop up a boy, nigga? He's standing in a dance. It's the exact opposite. What you just... Please. It's a podcast. I'm good. Thank you. Fuck. That's what y'all did. That's what y'all did. I'll tell you one thing. It's his sister. He ain't on broad. He don't do that. It's the same thing where you win when you don't win. Those are all the voters out there who stuck my dick. Don't fuck with y'all Hey yo, Simon, DM me right now What they say right now I'ma go to the bathroom sexy I can't I can't I can't Simon, DM me right now Simon, DM me right now Simon, still be fucked Tell me your shit? Nah, I ain't gonna tell me your shit in a while We cursed him out We fucked up his vlog We fucked his We fucked his We fucked our vlogs up Do you still have an account with him? No idea He just stopped, nigga Once the nigga started I'm getting cursed out In the internet streets For they bootleg Patreon plug Being dead And I ain't got nothing To do with that What? You was letting it rock You was insane I'm a fan of bootleggers Joe stop Not the Patreon Come on Joe's been saying That he didn't give a fuck About that It's promo Crazy Yeah I'm not heard You said it But come on It's promo I ain't mad at that You know where you're from I ain't mad at that You know where you're from Get this down now Simon I'm finding that little ice He didn't be like Simon Take that down now We let it rock a little bit too much He's not playing that Yo shout out to eight listeners man I love you guys I love you guys And from this point forward You are volunteering to be here This is a choice that you are making To listen to somebody that you disagree with hate or just don't fuck with it all but please every listen counts this shit is zooming and I got big plans for 26 and part of that includes your listenership alright uh we got parks, corners, balls oh yeah we got big freeze come on let's be able to where are you from Elizabeth's finest In the building, huh? Checking that health app. Hey. Checking that. Nope. Checking the health app. Step back. Step back. You stop laughing. You bring it back. Stop laughing. Yeah. Why you mad at me? Uh-oh. What? Move on. Yeah, spit him down. Uh-oh. Because you play too much. Free one. They got this. You play a lot. You do a lot of joking around. Everything ain't a joke, yo. Hey, it's for free. Is that bad? Everything ain't funny, yo. I asked my wife to check her step back the other day, nigga. She said 5,000 steps. Nigga, where did 2,000 of these came from? Nigga, I'm on your time. You're not on my time. Oh, you're on different times. No, because I'll be home. I know what's happening in the house. So you definitely, we're on different times. It's a shock. It is a shock. I'll be home as well. He went home and worked on that just for you. No, that was just for you. That ain't the one I worked on. Which one you worked on? I got a clip. Oh, for me? Yeah. Picking and choosing. Picking and choosing? No, because everything is a joke. You be bringing shit up today. I'm shooting. Come on, man. I'm shooting you today. Let me know what I can say. Let's get it. Listen, Punks, I'm on your ass now. I'm saying. All right. Parks don't check the Step app at all. Rem be in France. Punks, yo, you should check Rem be in France. Fuck it. I'm out of the life, man. Get out of here. Parks just make it a beat. No, my response is big, Mark. We're probably, we're probably, Parks, McPart. Poe is here, Corey is here, Erickson is here, Tanner, Savon is here by Remote Labs, but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here. All right, come on, let's get right to it. Let's get to it. Well, is everybody feeling good? We're good. We're feeling great. We're feeling great. We're feeling great. Let's get right to it. Grammy time? Grammy time! Grammy time! The Grammy! Did everybody watch? Let's start with this. Yes, I did. Yes, I watched the entire show. Okay. I ain't watched the entire show. I've seen a lot of it, though. Okay. How much? She turns it over the middle? No. I was doing shit. More than an hour or less than an hour? Yeah, more than an hour. We be bothering you, right? I know. Tell me. We just like a bother to you at 50. You outgrew this shit? You outgrew us? Outgrew the pot? And us. Like everything. You changing the game. I saw the pre-game. I saw the pre-Grammy shit. Yeah, I saw it at 330. And I saw the Grammy intro, and then I had to turn back to the fourth quarter of the Knick game. And then when the game was over, I went back. So I missed the rookies, the new artists. I missed that. I was actually pretty good. It was cool. It wasn't as good as it was last year, but it was still pretty good. I liked it. I didn't like the girl that was in the parking garage. Yeah, that was weird. You start on the back of the truck, and then I could have done without that one. But the British girl, Lola Young, I never had heard of her. She had some pipes on her. And that's the girl that won later. Yes. I like Olivia Dean. She did this. Olivia is amazing. We know that. She's always and forever. It's my first time here. I'll be out of the loop. I'm not like y'all niggas. It's my first time seeing her. Okay, so we're on the same page. Alex Warren? No, we're not on the same page because I had the album and loved the album. But I had a girl look. Beautiful. I was very happy to see Olivia Dean. I was very happy that that's who she was. Black girl. I didn't look. Mark. Anyway, go ahead, Fork. I don't remember what the fuck I was saying. Because I wasn't watching the Rookies, so I have nothing to say here. Yeah, that was cool. It wasn't as good as the last couple of years, but that's not any fault of anybody. Leon bought it. Leon and Olivia bought it. And the British girl, Lola Young. Those three went crazy. And the three of them won big awards. Shout out to Leon. He won R&B, Alamo, something else. He won two, right? Yeah, he did win two. Yeah, get the winners. Congratulations to Leon. For the most part, everybody that I wanted to win won. Most of my votes won. Before it started. Most of my votes won. That's why I watched the pregame, first of all, to that point. A lot of the awards that I give a fuck about were in the pregame, which is like R&B Album of the Year, R&B Song of the Year, Kalani won big there, rap, not album, but song and rap performance, which was Clips and Kendrick respectively. I'm trying to pull up the winner's list here. All right, so I got the winner's list. R&B performance was Kalani folded. Well deserved. Traditional R&B performance. That's the other one that Leon Thomas won. Got it. Nice. For Vibes Don't Lie. Best R&B song, Fold It. Yes, sir. Progressive R&B album, Bloom by Duran Bernard. Oh, he bought his... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love this. Chaps Duran. Best R&B album, Leon Thomas Mudd. Best rap performance, Chains and Whips Clips featuring Kendrick Lamar and Pharrell. Deservedly so. Best melodic rap performance was Luther. Deservedly so. I agree. Best rap song was TV Off I had Burso sing there But I'm not mad at TV Off I wasn't mad at anything As long as it was Clips or Kendrick Best rap album was GNX Again I'm not mad at it I think I voted Clips I wanted Clips to win I loved GNX I'm pleased either way As long as it was one of those two I wanted Clips to win But as I was watching And I was like, oh, sorry. It's still levels. Yeah. Like, hip-hop had me wanted the clips to win. I felt like, Kendrick, we got it. But once you see Dolce up there presenting, it's just like, okay. You see Kendrick got dressed. Yeah, he did. Like where he came. Yeah, he really got dressed. So it's like, and you see that he's still there. Yeah. Because once he won early, I was like, okay, he wants to get the fuck out of here. But once the show was going and he's still sitting there. You know what it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And when I look back at the year before, it was all not like us. So I wasn't mad at you. TNX deserved to get a lot of the accolades that it did. And Cliff's still got to win, so I'm not tripping. Yeah. Yeah, as long as Cliff's got to win, I'm fine. And they had a great performance as well. Yeah, they did. We'll get to the performances after Yeah I have thoughts on both But yeah Great We're talking about just the winners First Again There was no award that I was outraged by There was nothing where I felt somebody I think the word snub gets used too much Just for somebody that doesn't win I really did not want Kendrick to get Rap Almond of the Year Really? Well let me put it differently I wanted Clips to get Rap Almond of the Year I just thought they really deserved it Far more But I don't think it was a bad choice I just really was rooting for Clips. That's all. Yes. I think we're all in the same boat. So that's the only award that I was just like really, really frustrated about. Or not frustrated. So we're not all the same because I am not frustrated with Kendrick winning that one. Oh, no, I wasn't frustrated. I think I'm agreeing with you. I think disappointed is a bad word. I wanted, I just, I felt like seeing them everywhere, everything that they did, as great as the album was, it being a comeback album, it seemed like all the stars were in alignment for them to win. Yes. And when it didn't happen, I was just like, damn. to come back I'm sorry I'm sorry but to lose to G and X is still they weren't snubbed this is not good kid mad city losing to Macklemore this isn't that this is still a great album won best rap album of the year I didn't love Billie Eilish winning song of the year really and I like her a lot and I like Phineas a lot my problem was that song came out on an album in 2000 it was in the last Grammy cycle but then they released it as like a video and a single so it gets eligible for this. And I still think it was the best song of the year. I think Bad Bunny should have won that one, too. There was a jig in there. Well, Billie Eilish was going to get one. And I'm not bad at it. And I loved her speech, so I'm not bad at it. And I liked them both. I just thought that that was a weird technicality that shouldn't be. Yeah, but it's... Yeah, the record, because they pushed it as a single, it charted the whole year. So it was tough for them to not... It's still a cultural, there's a phrase for it, cultural currency. Relevance? Yeah. Yeah, I guess that's what I'm trying to say. Like, even though it was released last year. Yeah. Again, I also just think the Bad Bunny song was the song of the year for me, personally. I agree. And one album of the year, so I'm still not all the way mad. It's fine. What did you guys think? I know we're a little all over the place. What did you guys think of Trevor Noah this year as a host, his intro, the jokes? Wow, what did you think of the Nicki Minaj name drop? What did you think of him standing next to Kendrick, even though that came later with the Drake shit where Kendrick looked a little uncomfortable? What did you think of Trevor Noah during the evening as a whole? He did it six times in a row. This is his last time doing it. I think because it was his last time, they intended for the joke to be a little bit more edgy. And I don't want to say cringy, but it's like going out with a bang type shit. Like, I'm going to say the things that y'all are thinking that I probably wouldn't have said before. and we can hide it under this is my last time doing it i thought he did great i don't think it was his best i was just about to say i don't think it was his best outing it was a little when he was standing next to beaver beaver looked like he was ready to swing everybody that he really outside even i think even the bad bunny shit bad bunny was playing into it but he kind of was like I like that one It turned out dope But initially Bad Bunny was looking like Yo fam And then he just was like fuck it ain't gonna go away He just kept speaking Spanish and it was like oh okay And I leaned into it but in the beginning Even that part didn't look Kendrick looked like That's not how that happened Like The band came out So it had to be But the optics of it Looked like Supposedly though I think it was supposed to And I think that Bad Bunny had acted So he was probably Into character So I'm not I thought that was actually One of the Yeah Trevor No even knowing All I did to a T Like that That was impressive That was impressive That blazer That Bad Bunny had on Was fucking Big up all night With the shit on the back The cold shit on the back Oh my god Absolutely Absolutely Sickment Him and Kendrick Fitz were fired It's simple but fired Kendrick looked nice. Kendrick was, that was absolutely sticking to him too. Damn, I wish I could shout out who styled Bad Bunny. I'll look for it later. But did y'all see Kendrick's left hand with the boxer shit on it? Yeah, I didn't. Yeah. Yeah. Was that fashion or was that a statement? I think he'd be traded and shit and fuck his hand up. It looked like an H bandage or something. Nah. It was the knuckles wrapped or it looked like an injury. It didn't look right. To me, it didn't look like an injury. It looked like the shit. Like he just took a boxing glove off. How do you have your hand wrapped? Like the knuckles would pat it. That's what I'm leaning. It wasn't just your hand. With a black power pick in his head. All that shit. Say something. You're saying something. Kendrick being intentional. That shit on his hand just seemed like it was there for a reason. I agree. Shia Pirelli, I think, was the designer of Bad Buddies. Chef's Kiss. Yeah, that shit was. Chef's Kiss. If I were the clips, because I thought that they looked marvelous. I love that. Moir Salmon shit And A lot of groups showed up And dressed the thing So I'm fine with that No way I'd have let Pharrell Put that same shit on And we walk out like fucking triplets Looking like the Delphonics Nah no way in world They look like the fucking Delphonics The pearls with the window No way on earth No way on earth do I let them do that Cause y'all wasn't dressed the same on stage True Oh that white shit He had on was fire Who had on Pharrell That white shit And that's part of my point That white shit was fire So if you're gonna do that And then he had the coat on On stage He looked absolutely amazing Everybody did But I'm saying We ain't dressed the same now You wouldn't put that shit on Take this shit off While we on the break Are you crazy now You're doing it enough now You know what's crazy Pharrell's so skinny That that shit just Had it the right way That shit just Loads and rings We all got the same shit on you gonna look better in it now fuck that Pharrell's tiny bro that shit looked amazing on no way on earth. I would have let him walk in if I was a clip That that that would not have happened at all. Yeah, he would have to go change Also Pharrell at the podium stop working stop doing anything else but working. Work, man. I'm with him. Because when you, when I'm 52, I get to do this every day. I love what I do. And if you do what you love every day, you'll get paid for free. Dog, I'm sick of Pharrell. For real, something about him really just irks me. That's what you went up there and said? You were talking sad, huh? All this shit going on in the fucking world We already got you on camera In the last six, seven months Saying stupid shit Yo, they came up with a cool little phrase Two words, iced out Or they came up with some shit If you didn't know And you get up there with this Yo, do what you love Work harder Go to work Like, shut the fuck up, Pharrell I was disappointed by a lot of the He's thickening A lot of the artists not saying He's thickening, though Enough of him You're not wrong I just given what he's prone to say, I'd rather him not talk about nothing than talk about some shit and say something crazy. I agree, but then get up there and say something meaningful besides this bullshit, generic, this shit sounds like it's out the Crunchy Munchbox. You just say, use the moment. Use the moment. You are Pharrell. Niggas, look up to you. The big eclipse is back. You up there, you put the same fucking tune on, nigga. Say something. Especially you getting the Global Impasse Award. Yeah. This wasn't just an album award you got. You get out there. Yo, go to work. I love what I do. Shout out to Chocom Quest. You make it great. Oh, yeah, I'm sick of Pharrell. But anyway, anyway, sorry about that. That was my little, I'm just, he's sticking to me now. Like, if he ain't on the MP or the Triton or some shit, or whatever the fuck he make a beat on, I, yeah, yeah. Or doing the Louie Runway shit, because this means this fly. He's just a weirdo. These niggas are a fucking weirdo. He's not the greatest in speaking. But I did like the, uh, keep working. I did like that. That message. I, I, I, I am. The older I get, the more the key work and message resonates with me. I get it. What do you want me to do? There's not found. But I wish he would have said something. Some niggas don't feel like jeopardizing their relationships. I'm not saying that's what it is. But some niggas stand on the other side. Yeah, some niggas stand on the other side. So if you have nothing to say positive, don't say nothing at all. He might have said go ice. You know what I mean? I agree with y'all. I'm saying he's a weirdo. For that. And I'm a weirdo. So, I mean, everybody, they own version of weird. I don't want to be in that weirdo room. Okay That's another thing I thought a lot Throughout the night Like just looking at the room Honestly I couldn't hang with A bunch of these Oh you niggas Yo this is a Different universe With some of these Niggas that's in this room Yo That's why I like The early show Because that's usually The cool people Like the star writers And producers are up there Giving the speeches And I kind of rock with them I can hang out with them That room ain't The super rich stars I don't know What I hang out with you Most of them I went to the Grammys When Whenever Pump It Up Was nominated And I went And I looked a mess but just the experience of being there, like some people have heard me say before, that's not for me. Unless you are winning and you got a call that said you won, and even that is for niggas that M probably won't ever go back to the Grammy. If you were the cool seats at the front with the little circle tables, that's cool. If you were anywhere else, you said that shit was horrible. You know, but what he said, I couldn't imagine me saying this, but I was pleased with what Billy Eilish said and what this nigga did. Now that he's saying it like that, you know what I mean? No, a lot of people say that. Olivia Dean, Bad Bunny, Billy Eilish. Kalani. Kalani for sure. A lot of people. That shit was fire. Yeah, they used that moment. Shout out to people saying their business. But then, being that you won me with the type of award that you won, you were supposed to get up there and talk about hip-hop history or black music, whatever the case may be. He got up there. But a lot of people want to, yo, don't quit, do the work, don't quit, don't quit, do the work. So I guess he might have resonated that. But being who he is, he could have gave something a little better. Yeah. I guess especially in the award that it was, he could have gave something better. It was the Dr. Dre Award, too. So it was kind of like, I mean, I like that he shouted out Tropical Quest and talked about the impact of Q-Tip in particular on him. I thought that part was dope. But, yeah, I liked him to pivot to something bigger than that. But this is not who he is. I don't expect much from the Bull. But, yeah. Yeah. I'm saying that shit with the jellyfishers on. I was thinking I wasn't going to say it, though. Hey, I put a disclaimer in the front of this. That should clear me. It's your man Jelly Roll on the red carpet. And Jelly Roll's my man. Yeah, fuck with Jelly Roll. You know, I'm a dumb redneck. I haven't watched enough. I didn't have a phone for 18 months. I've had one for four months and don't have social media. I hate to be the artist as static aloof, But I just I've come so disconnected from what's happening. And I'm just not a I grew up in a house of like insane pandemonium. And like you'd like I didn't even know politics were fucking real until I was in my mid 20s in jail. Like that's how disconnected when you grow up in a drug addict household. You think we like have common calls about what's happening in world politics? Like we're just trying to find a way to survive, man. You know, and I have a lot to say about it. And I'm going to in the next week. And everybody's going to hear exactly what I have to say about it in the most loud and clear way I've ever spoken in my life. So I look forward to it. Thank you for bringing it up. He fucked the city, sweetie. He fucked himself in the last three sentences. I was rocking with him the whole time until he said them last three sentences. He said, dog, like, basically, politics is not something I do. Right? And so you could get away with that. He said, yo, how I grew up, politics wasn't in my house. And at the very end you said And he said yo I'm a dumb redneck I don't know nothing about politics But at the very end he said Yo I got something to say and I'm going to tell y'all next week How I feel about Which one is it? You don't know what's going on in the political world Or you got a lot to say I got a lot to say I took that totally different I had no idea I've been informed myself But I also want to make this statement Not here I want to make this statement I have two people that want to do it on my own platform, on my own terms. So I think he's gotten some more information, and now I'm ready to speak on it, but just not right here. I want to gather my thoughts so that I can't say the wrong thing, get taken out of context. Let me do it in the way that I know how when I'm ready to, and it will be soon. I'm not going to keep y'all waiting forever. I'll be next week. So now we're going to wait for the big jelly roll political. For people that want to hear it from them, you're going to wait and hear it whenever you hear it. Yeah, and I think that's – if you're not going to do it in the moment where it matters, which is the Grammys, then it's just Jelly Roll talking I don't give a fuck what Jelly Roll thinks outside the group you know what I'm saying I want my Grammys I know that I know the the he knows the fan bases on that side and no no no but I know what's going on here and I know the sentiment in this room overwhelmingly is leaning one way so I'm not gonna get up there and wear my first Grammys and now say some shit that's anti but I was red carpet right yes because I wanted to show this was before the show I think that he absolutely smoked his speech yeah I like his speech too His speech was What he wanted His speech was A nice He killed it Middle line Of I'm about Jesus And you ain't gotta be You could be from This is for everybody Jesus is for all I fuck with Jelly Roll Child to Manili Congratulations But then you know The internet Go internet I know they found him With Christy Noem So they went and got him With Christy Noem Saying how great Of a person he is And blah blah blah blah You politically tied You can't say You don't know nothing about politics. Yeah. It's tough. All right. The optics is bad. But anyway, we're back to celebrating music. Yeah. Back to celebrating music. What else? What else? Performers? Oh, come on, let's do it. Lauren Hill. I just had to come to Jesus. I was about to say. Listen, you will never get no more slammed out of Jesus. You can get there as late as you want if you want to do this. I don't give a fuck when you get there. I was damn near in the crib standing up clapping. That entire performance, that might have been my favorite performance of the whole night. That shit was fire. The Roberta Flack, the whole shit that part was great the D'Angelo part I hated how they it was like two bars of performance for everybody it was like it was a lot of motherfuckers Bilal Bilal went crazy Bilal went crazy Bilal let's slow down for a minute we're speeding let's slow down Freeze yes tell me more about this because this is big I know I'm just saying like she went up there what did she do she sounded great she looked great she like again Lauryn Hill she sang the fuck out of the songs where she was singing It made me feel like Damn yo I shouldn't be slandering you like this So what you come late If this is the show you put on I've seen Lauren Hill perform I was at Roots Picnic When she's up there doing Other versions of songs They didn't sound the same way I've seen people at her shows Say yo She's performing You want to have a real conversation About the speaker And mic setup at Roots Picnic Let me I'm not even talking about I'm talking about the actual Beat that she's playing to She's not even playing to the song I've seen She can't do the tempo Yeah That's what I'm asking The whole song sounds different the reggae is a version of X Factor yeah but we've only got one album you gotta figure out how to make this interesting for 35 years not when your album is that not when it's the number one album of all time no you don't I get it but I also get why she would want to change it I get it for a lot of reasons still but anyway I'm off that Janet Jackson does the same thing at her shows but everybody also have the negative track record that long a lot of people do that and I've been to shows with legacy acts where they play like with bands They play it exactly like the CD And that shit is boring too I'm just speaking for Lauren And how I And my stance I think she did amazing at that And again I was like damn Alright cool You won me over When you performed this well And y'all smoked that shit That way you won me over So I'm cool And I thought Every performer For the most part Bodied it Sounded good I totally did too I saw it Lucky Day And you had Rafael Sadiq You had Marcus Miller Marcus Miller You had Marcus Miller up there You had some legends up there Rafael Sadiq just subtly in the background Chilling You know what I mean I thought it was great Shaka Khan All that's real legend John Legend with Shaka John Legend will always be... I think it's down. Exactly. Their voices... I like their voices. Their voices aren't good collaboratively. They're stacking it up. The average isn't... Yeah. Shaka looked good, though. If you have too much vibrato and character in your voice, it doesn't mesh well. Got it. A lot of times. Unless you're the definitive lead in the other persons or backgrounds. I love John Legend. I do feel like we need to find more pianists. He didn't play piano. Yeah. It was John Batiste. Got it. One point. He ain't got to be there. We can get somebody else. What are you saying? He sounded good, though. He did him all the shit every time. He always sounded good. All right, Joe, what's up, man? Yeah, come on. You got something to say, man. No, I'm not a thing. Yeah, you do. Come on, Joe. Come on. Actually, I do have something to say. For the people that were privileged enough to see Bilal at Village Underground just on a random Sunday, boy, were we blessed. That's what I was thinking while I was watching this. Bilal's incredible. Bilal's incredible. And he showed people that maybe didn't know. I did not. I forgot all about him. When she said his name, I was like, they couldn't have found nobody better. Oh, yeah. Pull this off. He's contemporaries. No, I forgot all about Bilal. Yeah. Right? I forgot. When she said her nigga name, I said, oh, he about to go crazy. He's a singer. He did. Yeah. She about to go crazy. He was a blue dog a couple months ago and bodied it. I mean, people from all over come to see him like singers. I'm just about to talk because he's so special. Are you saying? Yeah. Yeah, Bilal's different. Is that? And he sounded great and he looked great. He sounded amazing, bro. And then I love that they ended it with Killing Me Softly. First, the version I like more than y'all do. Clef looked amazing. Revert of Flax. Revert of Flax version. But then when Clef came out and they did that. The bougie version, Clef killed it. They killed it. The crowd was rocking. That was the perfect way to end it to me. Perfect. Perfect. That was my favorite performance of the night. Montel? Yeah, Montel. Why do you keep looking at me? Because, nigga, we know you. I keep doing it before us, man. How do you feel about Lauren's performance? I absolutely loved it. Okay. Everything that y'all was saying, I agree with. Why y'all making my opinion out to be something different? No, because it looked like it was. It just looked like it was. No, he looking like that. He always looked like that. What is your rat bastard? You too, nigga. You know what my face is? My face is, that's the Lauren I've known since Lauren came out. My face is Lauren didn't even sound like Lauren can sound. Yeah, because Lauren can sound a hundred times better than that. Because Lauren went to the Gamma after party and was doing X Factor live sounding like the record. So, I think I've been watching that girl sing since high school. She can get ten times busier than that. So, when Ice was saying, yo, if that's what she going to do, I'm like, Ice, to me, that wasn't even the best Lauren. Yeah. How she did it And facilitated it And all of that Was a monster Yo Her voice My nigga Lauren Can sing a thousand times Better than that And she still bodied it Quick sidebar Sister act Did y see homeboy On uh Did y see Oh happy yeah did y see him on Tank podcast talking about how on Sister Act he thought he had a shot with Lauryn Hill like he had a crush on her and then one day her boyfriend came to the set her boyfriend was Omar Epps fresh out of juice yeah I know that like fresh off juice you had to fuck your whole shit up yeah yeah but they were sitting there talking it was hilarious yo I guess yeah I was humble the shit out of you. Yeah. What? Fresh off juice, too? That nigga Omar, he, that nigga was something to deal with. That nigga was something to deal with back there. I ain't going to lie. You got us up out of there, all of us. I mean, Raheem held us down a little bit, but that nigga Omar came to. Like, what? Now y'all making me want to see if I can find it for y'all. No. Because it is that funny. Yeah. I believe you. I didn't mean to derail us. I'm coming right back in with my thoughts about Justin Bieber's performance. You like Biebs in the undies? I fuck with Beavs. Me too. I fuck with Beavs. I like that performance. And they want me over. Huh? Y'all like this song? Yeah. But I just like it more now. Because it's about the performance. Oh, the boxers did it for you? Go ahead. Get the shit off. Get the shit off. Get the shit off. No, he's got the shit off. He's got the shit off. We flew out to LA. Met a young Lauryn Hill. We hit it off because we was the only two kids from Jersey. And me, her, and Jennifer Love Hewitt were the only real high school students in the cast. Everybody else was older. Everybody else was grown. Oh, okay. Jennifer Love Hewitt. Yeah. Wow. So we all would go to tutoring and stuff. Yeah, I don't fast forward on this shit. Look at a young Omar Epps. Uh-uh. Yeah. Omar. On the hill over at the Oakwoods, boy. Man, I had a crush on her. And you know what broke my heart? A real dude came to visit one time. You know who it was? Who? Omar Epps. Yeah, that's... The juice niggas. You couldn't compete. You couldn't compete, bro. You was out of your league. You couldn't compete. Yeah. Oh my God, what could I do? What? He says they talk about the end of the movie. That's the juice now. Fresh off juice. Fresh. He was the one. You lost that battle. Oh, I lost. I ain't going to lie. You wasn't even in the fight. You wasn't even in the fight. You could look at a young Omar after me like, tell him what you're saying. Yeah, I got a lot of respect for him that day and just understood that. You got to take what you want. It's lovely. La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la. Wasn't no happy day that day, Monty. No, no, no, no, no, Monty, you crazy. So Justin Bieber got on stage in his boxers and performed. But before you even get there, I was lost. Because they pissed me off because they kept pointing the performance like, yo, it's going to be the one that everybody's talking about. This is going to be the performance. It kind of was. It was. It wasn't that. It wasn't that. It was a good performance. I don't know how people are talking about it. I'm a Justin Bieber fan. I like how you sound. I'm a Justin Bieber fan. Same. I guess. Maybe I'm a Justin Bieber fan. It sounded good. Yeah, that's not good. But I was lost with the... The boxers. Yeah, you got up there in your boxers. The shit looked mad, sad, and somber. That UConn song is not that type of song. You know what I'm saying? You getting up there, you making the beat with your foot in your hand. That was cool. He's on his Ed Sheeran shit. I was just... He sounded amazing I thought it was cool Boxers inside I was a little worried He might pop out You know what I mean That's what your mind was? Yeah I was fucking Like please don't pop out bro Please don't pop out My thing with Justin Bieber Recently Or for the better part Of a few years now Is every time you see him It look like It's a cry for help Yes I agree I think you're leaning into that And that's my point Like dog Him getting up there With them boxers on To me sounded It looked like Yeah like a sympathetic plea It looked like He wanted to tell us something I'm troubled Yeah I'm troubled I swear that's how I felt bro I'm not But he won't tell us More years higher than that He leave it up to us to guess Like they zapped the joy Out of this little nigga Yeah bro Like Like it's just right That song That song you're supposed to have like Some confidence Yeah When you sing it You're bagging It's bright It's bright Couple cute chicks He up there in his drawers In the dark In the dark Just Come on man What happened nigga Tell us I don't Nah I thought it was Nah I just think he was Just doing too much with that He ain't been the same Since they made him Do them push ups He ain't been the same Since they made him Do those push ups man I don't know if he won anything He kinda got snubbed That was a very good album I don't know where He would've won That was a good album bro I would've been mad If he would've Snuck on it And it sounded like And you know I ain't the music guy And it sounded like All that shit Wasn't even mixed Dubbo's yeah And it still was good. That was a good-ass album. I love that album. He didn't get nominated for nothing. Don't be taking me Parks and Heist lingo out of here when you talk to other people, too. I don't know what that means. Like, when you talk about records being mixed and all of that. Do that up here. Don't show me if I hit the hoop the lounge. You hear the mix on this? I looked at the mixologist and took me the confirmation. I think you did good. You did good. Yeah, I agree with you. That shit ain't sound. I agree with you. It felt a little bit like unfinished records a little bit. But I liked it a lot. That Yukon song wasn't even nominated. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. That's nuts, man. That's kind of crazy. I was speaking of moments to say something and they didn't say something. Post Malone covering War Pigs and no one up there saying nothing was also kind of crazy. The song's fucking War Pigs, though. Right. And rest in peace to Ozzy Osbourne. I guess maybe in the interest of not messing with the family and the emotions of the family, you didn't want to do that? Yeah. They were emotional. They were. They were. At least, though. Rest in peace, Ozzy Osbourne. I don't know if we even said that in the pod. Hopefully, we did. We did. A legend. A legend. But that was a great performance. They bodied it. They bodied it. I just thought it was a moment where you could have. What did you think of that Bruno Mars performance? Both of them were ass. He performed twice. He did the opening song with the K-pop girl. That was ass? I didn't like it. I didn't like anything he did. I didn't even like the shots of him in the audience. The crowd shot. Bro, he looked a little, he looked like, he looked a little like that boogish. Oh, wow, wow, wow. He was mad. I don't know what he was, but I think I looked. He was there. What are you talking about? Was he sitting next to him? That's why he was mad. Put me there. I need to be at that table. Oh, man. That was funny. That nigga, my was doing this. What's that song with the nigga name? What do you guys think of Bruno Mars I love Bruno Black Lester performances He looked Like he may not have been fully invested in the moment I like the first performance And he looked like He was performing for the niggas that's invested in him Standing on the side of the stage That's what he looks like I want to get this shit over with Like that kid in the mean The nigga said, yo, you getting paid? Wait, we getting paid? It looked like he was nervous. They was putting a camera on him. He was like. You know we're going to be watching with the Grammys. No, we there. We a post-workers. It looked like that. He another one. I love him and I fuck with him. But how many times I'm supposed to see him with the 70s out there with the band? How many times do I have to look at it? So we had that talk when the record came out. and y'all was kind of saying that. I did say that when I saw the second performance. Like, all right, I'm tired of this look now. You don't got to do this. That record isn't even so explicitly 70s. Yeah, it didn't call for that. That's what made it weird. It did. Because you could have vibed after this song. You got to do that little bop. And you went right to the 70s. And I was like, they were right. That's what I said to myself. I'm like, yeah, the guys was right. He don't want to show them niggas he buying new shit. Hey, look, guys. Hey, look, guys. Hey, look, guys. Hey, look, guys. Hey, Rocko. Hey, Rocko. This is my old shit. Hey, Rocko. I got the old bed. I got the old bed. I don't know. How you doing? They doing it for a trip. They did look like they was back here doing it on this trip. They were going to squirt. This awesome. Shoot it. Shoot it. That was a mess. And I fuck with Bruno I don't know I don't know You really I like the M's Elbum comes out Friday too Bruno Bruno Bruno Wait I believe so It's not right We said like next month Like a month ago I just The time he moved Well he's gonna be fine So I mean I'm not even Bruno Mars That's like crazy He's gonna be fine The tour is selling out Oh I mean correct 27th Okay I thought it was Bruno could care less about Cole I'm just saying numbers wise for the number one. Who get the number one? That's the conversation. Right? You think that's the conversation? Yes. Yes, I do. I absolutely think that's the conversation. What's the conversation, Breeze? I think I'm on your side. Oh, we're on the same side. I'm just saying. I don't think... You call. It's different, bro. Okay. I think J. Cole has a short shot at a number one. I don't think anybody's going to drop with him. And not for nothing, the double disc weight. Put him in that. I'm with y'all, but Being a double disc It might push him A little bit closer Anybody? I don't know Right now Outside of your Adele Taylor Outside of them Bruno's in that sphere No he not He also not in the J. Cole sphere Do you know what that song is? I don't know about Adele You know what He wrote about Nobody named Cole Do you know what that APT song did? What did he do? A bazillion A bazillion You know what the APT song is? Yeah of course That's a record that They started They started to show it That song is massive It is It is Like different Massive Yeah So I Don't disrespect to Cole I love you Cole Yeah it's different bro However Last album 24 Karat Magic First week sales Was 231,000 Yeah You telling me Cole That ain't Cole number You telling me Cole Can't do 230 That'll change a lot I didn't say he can't Debut at 231 Yep So my point is What Cole debut is Fight back for you So my point is It goes over 6.5 though I'm talking about That'll change a lot That's right I'm specifically speaking on the first week. I'm specifically speaking on the first week. I'm saying them dropping on the same day. There would be a fight for number one. I don't think it's going to be a blow out of the water for number one. I would gladly check with you. Backboard on fire. That was a good album. It was a great album. I forgot the name of it, but. Hold on. One time. I think I remember. 282. Is it 2021, the offseason? Yeah. Yeah, the offseason. Yeah, 282. Oh, I don't know. 282. What did, uh, which one called you? I'm so excited. I'll check that one. So I can't do nothing. 60 grand. No, I did some numbers. But we didn't like it. Yeah, they love the record, but it's sold. 104,000. Yeah, it was great. So again, to my point. Okay, I see what Freeze is saying. I see what you're saying on the first week numbers. That's what I said, though. I need to see more information. Don't move my argument. I literally said them two dropping on the first day. We'll probably drop for one day. So Freeze shut down. It's your mark. So Freeze is right. Yeah, bow down. All right, take the change. Freeze. I earned it I earned my mark I earned my mark Wait You earned yours Yeah Yeah you got doing a nasty month Yeah they got a slow break That was a nasty Watch out It was a nasty month Don't fuck up Watch out If he ain't gonna rep it You might look You know what I mean That wasn't an ass month Don't fuck y'all did number one That month was an ass month That month was horrible Did you want I Bubbles I'm not saying mean is I'm not gonna say don't mean nothing to me. Oh, you know how much you meant Just cross them off and I'm not I'm gonna say nothing because that's what they want He wants some clips. I ain't going to go. You know, we put the nigga with the scully on. He different. Yeah, yeah. I do want to quickly highlight Tyler's performance because that was amazing. I love that shit. Him staying in character and laying on the ground, all that shit afterwards. Security nigga walked over. He said, hey, yo, yo. All right, go to commercial. He smoked that. He's one of the best live performers we have in music period. Tyler's performance on stage was crazy, and Tyler's performance in the audience was crazy for Kendrick and Clips. in the clips. Yeah. Like, I love that. That's what I mean about just the energy in that fucking building, yo. That video was hard to watch almost. Like, he provided the energy, but everyone else should be too. Yeah, man. Shout out to Tyler. Shout out to Tyler. He looked great too. He did. He looked great too. He did. Overall, how'd you feel about the show? I thought it was not my favorite, like, overall show, but I think they did really good with the awards. The Grammys. The shit that I cared about, they did right. It was good. So, I'm cool. We've seen so many years Weird soundtracks and shit Went album of the year Yeah like Bad Bunny to me Had a cultural Defining fucking album And should've won And did I knew he was going to win I knew When they announced The Latin album award I've never seen them Announce this award On television ever And then when I realized He's still there I said oh okay This is Bad Bunny's night He's winning album of the year They set it up Superbowl next week I got it This is the run And well deserved I'm not knocking But some of these things You can see the play And he used the moment He did I love his speech his speech was amazing he did and I part of me thinks that's why that also played into it I think they knew certain people was going to get up there and seize the moment oh yeah so we can't do it as a network or as a whatever but I know you're going to do it right and I'm going to give you the runway to do it because if it was the other way around they'd have made sure he wouldn't have won true shout out to Shibuzi winning congratulations to him for sure first black dude to win whatever that country category was that he won The black country category? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The colored section. He and other one. They're on his ass. Yeah. They're on his ass for that little speech. Why? What did he say? He said that immigrants built this country. Oh. They did. Longer black people. Yeah. Slaves. Yeah. Slaves are nine. There's always got to add that when they say immigrants. I mean immigrants are rather about voluntary or involuntary. Both. I'm glad he said that. He needed to say that. He needed to say that. You should. Happy Black History, Macho. You disagree? Yeah. There you go. Yeah, I think there's a lot of context missing. Y'all ain't going to trick me into having the FBA conversation, right? Because that's what they're going to say I'm doing. I'm not going to do it. Well, I'm the only one that says that. Yeah, but you spread that, and then they put that out. Well, if you say whatever you say, I'm not going to say it this time. I'm not saying no. They got him. They got him. And I'm not mad at him. I think those are great words. I think those are great words and a great message. I don't think he was intending to offend anybody or make anybody mad. But to say that, he should have said some more. He grouped it all together. And no. You can't do that. That's what the problem. Slaves and not immigrants. You keep looking at me sometimes. Slaves and not immigrants. Did you hear what I said? I said whether voluntary or involuntary So the involuntary people Were slaves that were stolen and bought here Me and Mark said yes Whether voluntary But that's the only thing That's it But congratulations to them Who else Somebody else Oh Cher Cher She was hanging out with Bruno before She wasn't there at all Before we I just want to clear this up because that is why they were killing Shabuzi, and they are correct. You said voluntary or involuntary immigrant. The definition of an immigrant is a person who moves to a country other than their own country with the intention of living there permanently or long term. The people didn't have the choice. Well, that's what you had. I will just add for a little context, nothing anybody cares, but there was a major paper written about 50 years ago by a man named John Ogbu, and he referred to enslaved people as involuntary immigrants. to say like some people are that but then there's an involuntary piece so we're all saying the same thing I think sometimes we need to get to the spirit of what people are saying and not hang up on the words yeah because we know what you mean and we know why you're saying it now there are people who ignore foundational black Americans ADO whatever you want to call them and they ignore that and only focus on the immigrants nah black people built this shit we gotta be honest about that but I don't think he was saying anything different I think he was trying to in a moment where ICE is attacking people and immigrants are under attack I think it's reasonable To say hey wait a minute Stop the xenophobia Y'all are living off these people I thought it was a good moment And I ain't gonna kill somebody For Again you know where his heart is You know what he's trying You know what he's trying to say That's what I'm saying Nervous as fuck It's the first Grammys Like you up there In front of the world And you trying to make A political statement I think I think instead of us I think instead of us Critiquing them I think we need to be Applauding them Because it took some balls To do that Especially On the biggest stage In the world Especially when we up here getting on everybody else for not saying something. Can we get back to me wanting to fuck share? Yo. She took the word right. Can we get right back to whatever? She doesn't look good. She was looking like something. Yo. I see what the young boy was doing. Knock the fucking dust balls out of here. Are you kidding me? Yo. Oh, since we doing that, I got one more name to throw in the mix and y'all might judge me for. Let's hear it. I knocked Shaka Khan off. Oh. Oh. Oh. Shaka Khan. Okay. Don't break the week. Okay. All right. I'm looking at someone. I looked at her on the stage. I think I love you Nigga you crazy Cher was looking like Cher That nigga Alex Is turning it up on Cher Yeah He just said And he will Oh she don't know What's going on She don't know What the fuck She told me She told me She told me Oh shit Lose her She told me You know You know You know You know I got loser Like I was like Wait hold on That nigga's on I love when they pan to Kendrick and Dave and Salway. They're cracking up. You got a gandrew. He's got to be about to leave. He cleaned it up. Kendrick did a great job of cleaning it up. Even before that, she walked away. They were like, yo, yo, yo, you got an award to present, dog. Like, come here. Oh, that was fun. I don't know what the fuck was going on. Her and Joni Mitchell earlier, I don't know if anybody saw that, in the earlier presentation, she won for something, best repackaging of an album. She got up there. It might have been dead silent with her standing at the mic for like 30 seconds, which feels like a lifetime. Right. In an award ceremony. She's like, I guess this is for whatever the album was called. And then she was just rambling. So those two, chef's kiss. Yeah, chef's kiss. The sham made me realize how much I love mistakes during award shows. Live shows That's why I love live shows You want to see something Like the Will Smith slap The fucking What was the big one With Not in music Miss America shit Was it that one? Miss America was another one But no It was one of the Oscars Where they got up there And announced the wrong movie Moonlight Yeah That one Yeah Miss Universe That shit was crazy No that's Miss Universe Yeah But that Moonlight shit Yeah Like mistakes turn award shows up They do They do I appreciated that from Sharon. Give an award to the guy that's dead. That you know is dead. You were friends with him. Technically, he does get an award for that. Nigga, he's a fool. He's coming to the table. He didn't remember. He was hiding. He's looking for that nigga. He didn't move. Where's he going, girl? Where's he going? Alex, I'm fucked up. Whatever you're doing, nigga. Keep doing it. Yeah. Salute. I can see how you're getting in the window, nigga. I'll hold you. What was she talking about was a dick up there? Yup. That little lace. That's funny. No, man. Yo, it's funny you admitted that. No, look at you. I should agree. She's like, hey, hey, hey. No, face age. Believe it. No, face age. Her face looked pretty good for 80 or whatever. That's like 80. That shit was injected in her face. That face ain't moved. Yeah. Oh, please. We fucked a 26-year-old who face ain't moved. Word. What the fuck are you talking about? All right, now we won. Judge. That's a bowling pin. I would knock down. It's E-Ray. What? That would be the best. I would give the best dig I ever had. Go get a drink and come back and ask the whole 100 mil. Yo, baby, I'm about to run to Target, yo. Can I get like 200 mil or something? No. Like, where's your car? What's your shit again? You go to bed, right? Shit, I don't remember nothing. once you get that card sign this power of attorney real quick remember you said I could go get the remember the authorized user while they was talking doing the speech camera she was in the back talking she was the whole time you know she was her what Amber was going to say that's Cher you can't even get your jokes off you lost your man to an 80 year old You can't get no jokes off Because that 80 year old Is her Yeah That's crazy Shout out to Luther Vandross Always shout out to Luther Vandross Rest in peace Shout out to Luther One of the greatest One of the greatest Anything else from the Grammys we need? What did y'all think of the Clips performance? That was great Yeah I loved it It was great I think that was dope The whole snowing You know On the stage shit I'm so sad they ain't winning me I'm sorry I'm still fucked up Oh you alright my bad First of all sectional one But yes Alright so it's Performance No I like the performance That's my favorite song On the album So I'll go ahead and hear that I've seen that part That was fire It was a dope performance Okay but why It was alright What was the Well tell me your thoughts On the performance I liked it It was a very It was a rap performance So I liked it I like anytime They get up there With their breath control And their cadence They always kill that shit I didn't love the song choice Me either I did I didn't love the song choice In that setting What would you have done probably Berzold Sing. Berzold Sing to me is the obvious one. But then you already did that in front of the Vatican room. Fuck that was. You can't top that. John Legend just saying. Honestly, I would have done anything but that. I would have done Fico. I would have done the shit with Tyler. I would have done... I don't know if you speak. It's like you're doing so far ahead. You got the choir. I would have done Choir. You had John Legend. I don't care. You want to do that because Pharrell just won the award. I'm not bad at the song choice. I do. Oh, I'll be a little anti-climatic. I understand. That's what I'm saying. I mean, remember when Hey Y'all was everywhere? And Andre at the grave was like, for the 3,000 goddamn time, here it is one more time. Sometimes you just got to do that. Like, you do it everywhere, but it worked. Like, where's those things work? It would have moved that crowd. And you said John Legend was there sounding like velvet. Yeah, I believe that. That's what I'm saying. And them niggas looked amazing. Man, they wanted to show them Louis Vuitton choir robes off. That's what that was. That too. How do you do birds on the same? And then the choir, I didn't, that, the choir, I liked the bop when the beat dropped. I liked the choir bopping. But other than that, like, it was a bunch of choirs all night. So, like, I didn't think it was a standout. Right. But they smoked it. They smoked it. It was good. I had to pick a different song. Okay. Not me. How much of a reasonable? But other than that. How do you, I would have been bad if you still got on the stage? Yeah, man. Turn shit up. Clip, see shit out. Yeah. But, I mean, they did that because that was still a very clip song. It was. But all that for, you know what it is. I know. You off the world. You off the world. Nigga, move, man. You can't do that with your stickers on. You got to take them off. I bought every color, too. How do you feel about the Billie Eilish stolen land comic that they killing her for? I didn't see nobody killing Billie Eilish. They are. Yeah. Oh, the other side. Oh, no. Billie Eilish and her brother. Don't worry. They're my favorite siblings. I'm just making sure. No, I thought Phineas had a nice little joint with him too. I'm like, alright, Phineas. You seen him? Yo, on gang. But listen, I think that's one of the reasons that Billy Allen's kicked the war because we need somebody who's going to get up there and do what Billy Allen's going to do. I love that. She should give back her million dollar house or whatever the fuck. What the fuck does one have to do with the other? Oh, please. Don't fuck up. Deflection. Was Sabrina Carpenter singing? Probably not. Was that a lot of mic? Probably not. I didn't think it was either. That was a cool performance. She's another one. She puts on when it comes to... I'm not the biggest fan of her music, but she puts on. I am. I enjoyed the performance, and she looked great. Yeah. She looked great. That's not my wheelhouse. I didn't see. Oh, okay. I don't see that kind of thing, but she sounds great. In the afterlife, you marry a white girl. What? See? You chiming in on his afterlife. Now you know what he's doing in the afterlife. How are you to marry a white girl? Oh, well No, I don't think so Thank you, Ish It'd be dope I was going to make a joke about whites being in the afterlife But that would be inappropriate Oh, thank God, please Lord It'd be funny, but it wouldn't be So I wouldn't make that joke I don't think I have anything else to say about the Grammys But let's gloss over Sabrina Carpenter What else happened? I just want to spend some time on Sabrina Carpenter I think the performance is great That's all I think the performance is great I just want to reiterate that Okay How does she look? No, there's a growing community of people that saw the awards and said I'll fuck the shit out of Sabrina Carpenter Oh, I see where we're stepping in I'm not saying that Mark is saying that But there's a list If I were to have a wife Actually, and it was a meme because they put the camera on her when she made that face when she was kind of biting her lip. She does her little sexual. How old is she before I participated in the conversation? She's late 20-something. Oh, yeah. Take her right to Crown's chicken. Take her right to Dr. James. I'm like, I'm going to get over her and what to share. I'm like, God damn. No, Sabrina Carver did look good. She did look good. 26. That's late 20s. It's like a chili five feet Yeah Yeah What's up Thoughts When you are part of the month What's the thoughts Zero That is your responsibility as much I know If y'all was sitting at one of them front tables With your wife Or your girlfriend How many times would you get up from that table And leave her To go talk to somebody I got to go get drinks I got a bladder issue so I got to always get up I'm in the business so I want to go shake some hands I drink a lot of water this is definitely networking I got to get up the water and tea are just running through me you know that green tea Tim Mark and Sabrina Clark Harpenter alright that was the end of our Grammy coverage congratulations to all the winners, each and every winner, everybody that was nominated. So to Jesse and J'Nai and all of them on the production. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go, Jesse. I'm curious where it's going to land. They're done with CBS. Yes. I'm curious where it's going to end up. You think it's going to be streaming now? Netflix or YouTube about to pay a shit ton of money and get the rights. Because you saw the pre-shows on YouTube. And it felt very natural and normal. It's an easy platform to do. I think YouTube. My guess would be YouTube. It's YouTube. Yeah. Because I think you could have watched it on YouTube, too. Because I only saw the pre-show. You've been able to do that for a couple years, right? The pre-show's been there for a while, but I don't know about the dates there, boy. YouTube. Interesting. Starting in 2027, the Recording Academy has signed a new long-term 10-year rights deal with the Walt Disney Company. ABC will take over the Grammys, live streaming on Hulu and Disney Plus through at least 2036. Oh, there we go. And there you have it There you have it And Disney announced the new CEO right Yeah Iger's out of here Anyway Now it's time for my favorite part of the show Prize picks Alright The big game is almost here And there's no better way to cash in During America's biggest sporting event Than prize picks Where it always feels good to be right And since the big game is right around the corner this Sunday, that also means it's your last chance to get into the football action before next season. So close the season outright with prize picks by getting $50 instantly in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup. Really easy and simple to play. All you have to do is select two or more players, look at their projected stat line, and pick more or less for your chance to win big. Also, prize picks now has early payouts. So if your player gets off to a hot start, you now have the option to cash out those winnings before the game even finishes. All right, it's time for the Joe and Ish picks of the week. I know you're on the edge of your seat out there. You're on the edge of your seat out there trying to figure out what Joe and Ish did this week. Well, I'm going to tell you. We're going with Travion Henderson for more than five rushing attempts. Cooper Cup for more than 32 receiving yards. Kenneth Walker for more than two and a half receptions. And Sam Darnall for more than 19 completions. Don't forget to download the app right this second and use promo code J-B-P for your chance to win $50 instantly when you play your first $5 lineup only on Price Picks, where it's good to be right. All right, shout out to the Giants. Hired Matt Nagy as the offensive coordinator. Okay. I'm not sure our Giants fans are feeling out there about that one, but it's hot off the press, so shut up, him. What do we need to get into with sports? The fight. The fight, yeah. Yeah. Hey, take it away. Take it away. Don't play. Big Jersey. Yo, you from New Jersey? I am. Be hype, then, nigga. They were saying that. Be hype. Don't just go, yo, what do you want to do? Your sports with the fight? Be hype. Be hype. Be hype because Shakur won? Yeah. Yeah. No, he didn't win. No, no, no. He didn't just win, though. He didn't win. Bring it in. Put on a clinic against somebody the nigga said could beat him, against a killer. He made the killer look like a puppy in the ring. Just totally dismantled him. Talk big, big nook, especially. Congratulations, nook. Yeah, so all the naysayers, shut the fuck up. I didn't hear it. I didn't say you. I didn't say you was a naysayer. No, no, no. I didn't hear one person say that this dude was about to beat up Shakur. I just didn't hear that. They said this is the one that he can do. Bro, niggas have been dissing Shakur for the better part of five years now. He don't fight nobody. He's mad corny. He's boring. He's running from all the top fighters, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, he caught a lot of backlash because one of those fights was really boring. No. One of his recent fights was like. Is he ducking people? Really, really boring. He's just a defense first fighter. So his plan is like Floyd's plan. Yo, I'm going to hit you. I'm not going to get hit. I'm not boxing is not just standing in the middle of the ring and both of us swinging to our arms get tired to see who get knocked out. It's a sport. Yeah. But as he is, he's the right people. Is he duck top challenges? No, I just think whoever you put in front of them, they line it up. And nowadays, boxers are just smarter with how they pick fights. Like back in the day, you would just, yo, I'm a fight parts because he's the second greatest duel. And they given us peanuts. nuts. Nowadays, they strategically get to the Pacquiao Floyd moment where we both going to cash out $300 million. Like, they've learned now that if I'm going to go in the ring and get hurt and potentially get life altering injuries, I'm going to get paid for that risk. And so I think the real fight that everybody want to see is, of course, Tank and Shakur. That's the one that they're building up for, but Tank got to win some more fights and stay out of fucking trouble. And then Shakur got to beat up a couple more people. And then I think they'll get there to where they both could get that payday. Their payday would damn near be a billion dollars. Wow. So, Shakur beat the shit out of T.O., and T.O. is good. Shout out to him. But Shakur just basically dismantled him. When you could take an A-level fighter and make him look like a D-level fighter, that just speaks to your skill sets. Now, Floyd used to take real good fighters and just make them look like they wasn't shit. That's how he made them look on Saturday. And I guess that's just not shocking to me Because I recognize him as being that good Yeah he's great Like he's great He is He is So Fight started later I watched it It was entertaining Was it Yeah it was a good fight It was a good fight What was the fight I saw to mean When a dude got hit so hard His hairpiece blew up Yeah That was That was the same card right Yeah it was the same card It was the same card If there was anywhere where I Wouldn't glue and tape my toupee on my head It's a box I saw him on the breakfast club Kind of explain his thinking I still didn't get it What did he say? What did he say? He said his man that did it Put the super glue and the super tape on He said he paid $700 He said he really thought that It would stay on He said he had a hair accident a few days before And he was just contemplating ways to get around it And his man said there's no way that this was going to fall off His name is Big Baby Miller Wow Every part of that play is sound fucked up fucked up. My man's $700 super glue dancing it a week before. All that shit sound like a bad idea. And it's wild because Paul's he has the right head for Baldy. Some niggas don't accept the Baldy though, man. Some niggas don't know that they have the right head for Baldy. Like, I understand why Ish is holding on. Like, his head ain't Baldy's head. You feel like you got a bald head? No. The second he do that is over. He looks like Common. Full-time dad. Y'all never do it about, like, why he do that? He's damn near a bald. He's not. If he were to be bald. Now, he can get that shit shined up right over you. I think he gets the rocket. He can kill the speech with a bald. He's going to hold on as long as he can. He's going to hold on like fucking Snipply Red. No, for real. He's going to keep holding on. That's cool. How long do you think he'll hold on? I'm not. You think you'll do it? Come on, you're throwing the ball at me. Come on, help me out. I'm not even listening to you. Power with me, power with me. Help out. My hair's going back. Wait, I'm sorry. You mean like... He's going to pay for the surgery. You mean that literally? Bro, we're not going to center in. My hair, I'm not cutting my hair off. I'm not telling you to do it. You'll go to Turkey first. Yeah, I'll go to Turkey. But you said it's actually going back. Like you're going to have a full head of hair again. My hair's already going back. Will you have a full head of hair again? They're going to take this shit for the back game. Yeah, but where's it going from? Put it up here. So you have a lot right here so we can be able to tell. Did you do it already? Is that why you're wearing a hat on the top? Take the skelly on, nigga. You did it? You did it? Wait a minute. Oh, that's why I grow back. Take the skelly on right now. Take the skelly on to the turkey. Take the skelly on. Oh, that ain't growing back, boy. You just got to keep it low. Hey, you look a mess. You look a absolute man. Oh, you're an idiot, brother. But I mean, he's one of them gods. He's not going to let it go. But he can pull it off, I think. It's looking good in the front and his eyes now. You did the LeBron Joe? I'm chilling, bro. Nah, that career nigga doing some shit in the front. He's a Chinese dude. He's bugging out in the front a little bit. Yeah, he's body issue. You got to tell him to relax. All right. I hear you. I'll tell him. Give me his number. I'll text him. I'll tell him. I got it. Congrats to Shakur. Congrats to Big Baby Miller. Yes. He still won. He did. He did. He did. Jayon, might as well win. He won. You got to win. Word. Because I was punching the shit out of his face. You'll meme forever. You can't lose. You can't lose. Yeah, you can't lose that. Nigga's fist lit right across the top of your head and peeled your shit back. You have to win that fight. They was like literally nigga got his cat peeled back. Did y'all see Deontay Wilder's interview talking about Tyson Fury cheated at least two of the fights he caught him? I didn't see it, but I saw the clips. I don't know what I told him. What did he say? He blinded me. He hit me too hard He said go look him up Google him He's a cheater And that's the reason He's not allowed back in America And I got the proof And he won't sue me for defamation Because he know I got the proof And I dare him I'd love to get up there And show receipts to what I'm saying Whatever Deontay Wilder is saying I'm agreeing with Because I can't beat him They got clips though Showing that Tyson Fury Every hand was outside the glove, right? His glove was bending when he hit Deontay Wilder. Now we're on the dark web. The dark web is a regular situation. His hand was bending? Yeah, like the glove was bending. The top of the glove was bending. So it seemed like his hand wasn't... You know how your hand go in the glove and all that. He was hitting it with more knuckles. Yeah, more knuckles. Oh, okay. In glove. Watch this shit. I swear to God. I'm not a conspiracy. That's not a fight I'm looking to see again anyway. Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury. I've seen it enough. I'm cool. He's so crazy. Yeah, I'm cool. My nigga, I don't care if he had hammers on his hands. You was getting hit. If Deontay Wilder is sitting in front of me saying Tyson Fury cheated, then that's what he did. He cheated, big dog. Hey, big dog. Man, I'm with you. Yeah, let's get them niggas. Man, I'm with you. Fuck off with Fury. I'm with you. He's out now. But right now. Yeah. I can talk to you. Beat your ass. How many ices do you think it would take to win against Deontay Wilder? He's doing that stupid game. I'm a whole tree. I'm a whole tree. I That's hilarious No, no anymore for me more than for you to be the other fuckers more than four shows How many issues? How many issues? He's tough It's going to take a lot Double digits 10 Higher double digits Probably 25 25 25 ices Ish Answer Ish I know Ish is thinking Four I was going to say three Four issues Hit that first Ish And the other two Ish is going to fall with him Six Six Mark I ain't gonna hold you. Deontay Wallace. Hey, 40%. Hey, 40%. I'm betting on Deontay. Why do you always have to be so cool on the party? Nigga, that was even the world champion. Have you seen a boxing match? That would make a difference. Anything he's going to do to y'all If we fight, I'm saying three If we fight, I'm saying three If we boxing, I'm saying a lot Give me your plan of attack for three One of the three got a gun to the ground Once one of the niggas grab his legs and get him on the ground It's night-night How many marks do you think it's going to take to get Deontay Wilder's legs to the ground In this night-night? One mark With two other niggas fighting you from the sides? How many punches do you think he needs to get y'all off of him? I'm just gonna not tell me for that a grab and quit. We're gonna be not let him punch me, right? You you understand Eight Five six Trained in Jiu-jitsu he's trained in Muay Thai you think he just gonna sit there Let a nigga hit him by the time I grab one of the niggas grab his legs and tie him up his balance gonna be Hey, niggas, tie a rock! They got a rope! He's a cowboy! He's a man, tie a rock, nigga. They got a rope, bird. And a box of niggas. Oh, my God. And a boxing match, I think, six of us. And a boxing match, I think, six of us. Not crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think. Y'all got a nice niggas. You need a bunch of niggas. Six, bitch. How many of you think it was six? Oh, I said it's good. More than four and six. That nigga six, seven. Yeah. How much do you weigh? 226. 228 that crazy. Y'all got it. You're going to lower your number. Stop it. I ain't taking another one. I'm saying six. Are you lowering that? The number I'm putting out there is to guarantee a win. Like not beat up. How many of you? How many of you would you say? You're going to get a move. I got swam. I used to do it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Six is that crazy. Let me 25. Give me 25 of me. We got them. No stopping them. I think that's 40 pounds. That's 40 pounds too much. And I got half of your number. Give me 12, 12 and a half. And lights out, fam. Double digits. I think you underestimate yourself. No, I'm trying to get this done. I'm trying to get this done and get out of town. I'm not trying to have a debate. I might not even get in that shit. Y'all do it. Word. I might be in the back. I'm coaching. Yo, yo, up to the top. You're free. Wait a minute. He said he coached. Even in your fantasy fight, you still a chump. You call a chump? Even in your fantasy fight, you're a bitch. I'm fighting for home, baby. He's still calling the police. And he's still speaking. I'm a jitter. Help! Yo, I'm sitting 11 clothes in the ring, and I'm going to sit back here and be sick. You got damn right. What? 911, what's your budget? You got damn right. Yo, this is shit here. What? All right, my last question, because I don't want to drag this out. This wasn't on the board at all. It's your mark. How many of you guys would it take to be the prime Mike Tyson? Jeez. I just want to understand y'all's 30 games. Way more. Give it to me. Give me a number. Double digits. Double digits. Please, a number. Think. Help. It's a segment that we created. It's fast, bro. 20. Okay. 15. But you lost. Well, only three for Deontay Wilder. Deontay Wilder and Mike Tyson. I'm just asking. We didn't say three for Deontay Wilder. He did. No, I said four. 15 to 20 for Mike. That's what I'm saying. 15 to 20 for Mike. Mark? In a boxing match, I'm going to say the same. In a fight? Six. See, I look at Mike different in a fight. Let's move on. I think y'all underestimate what people can do. And Mike is fast. In a boxing match? No. I said 15 of us. In a boxing match, it's going to say 15 of y'all. I should be. Do you think 15 punches will make him tired? I think if you have 15 people, you can surround him. I mean, you can't defend from 15. And then what? And what's going to happen then? Are y'all driving? My point is still there. Do you think 15 punches will make him tired? Yeah, eventually. Wait, wait, wait. You think he will get tired eventually? If 15 of us would fight him, I mean, crazy. Hold on, last question. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Last question. How many punches do you think he has to use? 15. I think if they hit one of the Mark, six marks is leaving. Check me. Where is that? All right, moving on. That's why I love male ego. I wouldn't want to live on this earth if male ego wasn't this far. I don't think it's ego. Oh, fuck. What do you think? How many you would it take to beat Mark Tyson? There's not enough See It would be like 200 Really? 200 punches You'll be a little tired You better off asking me How many Joes Would it take to apologize To Mike For whatever Whatever went wrong Whatever he's angry I'm on solid content That's right You are Good job Shocker Shocker Shocker, shocker Oh my god Alright Come on Oh shit Plies versus Come on I don't even know How did we get here Cause of Ice No one cause of me I'm just playing Trick Daddy Trick Daddy Yeah Trick Daddy Trick Daddy went on an interview And he was saying like Plies can't see me in no way I got anthems For the streets I got anthems for You know Commercial records Which he does He does And he was I don't know where Like why he chose the name plies i don't know if they asked him i'm not i didn't see the the what led to it but that's what pissed you off no it never pissed me i've been on the other side of this nigga i came in here and told y'all i got plies taking juvenile universes i've been standing on what plies a lot of people just forget about plies a lot of people forget that plies run a lot of people let the the the perception of his image after the whole jamie fox story change how they looked at his music I forgot I don't remember that It was a video shoot And there was a bunch of people Coming to check Plies Plies hitting the bathroom And caught security Shit like that So people started looking at him Like oh you not tough You not this You not that We don't hear your music the same Because you didn't let these 20 niggas come Jump on you for your drill I remember when Plies Used to cut on the camera What happened to that What happened When he used to cut on the camera And talk shit It's been a while He still does He still does I haven't seen it in a while He tweets a lot and shit now What does Plies play When Trick Daddy plays man Trick Daddy's highest Hold on Give him some time I'm just trying to think Can you throw him off the record I'm throwing up I've seen you throwing it out the blue I don't have to listen for me But if he plays Then I would go to A 10 of spades 1-0 No No I'm just trying to think Alright fine 1-0 I'll throw a record out there It don't matter It's 1-0 Alright 1-0 1-0 No, no, no, no, no. Let me return now. What is the trick that he played when Ply does Busted Baby 2? Busted Baby 2. That's the one with Neo on it? Sheesh. I like that song. Shut up. Yeah. Throw some trash. No. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Uh-huh. Okay. What's up? Shut up. What's up? I'm playing it. Let's have a fight. Let's have a battle. Oh, I'm a thug. I was about to say. I'm a thug. I'm gonna get my plaza list out No, no, no You're gonna do that Cause I'm off the dome Well, I'm not Alright, then forget it then No, you don't forget it You don't forget it I'm right here with you Now you gotta go to Ply's Essentials I'm on some mind No, never Now you go to Ply's Essentials I don't do Essentials He got the one I just want the record to show He got the one Ply's record off the dome He played He got the one record Off the dome Because you're going match up I wasn't doing match up That's why Alright Shorty With T-Pain Even though I'm not your man You're not my girl I'm going to call you my Shorty That record That's a good record Take it to the house That's not going to win against Shorty I'm just telling you what I'm playing I'm just like That's not going to do it I'm just telling you records That time So you're still on your phone I'm done with you I'm done with you I'm not talking to niggas They ain't hip hop from Essentials Yo I'm done I'm done I tried to do this off the dome. You got your phone. I don't. I'm hands-free. Now we good. You done read the whole shit. Fuck you, nigga. Anyway, and I don't even know that I'm disagreeing with you. I just wanted to hear it. I just wanted to hear it play out. Wasted. Versus. Wasted. Listen, man. I don't know. No, no, no. 20 is going to get slippery for a trick. But a good 10. The first 10. No, I'm talking 20 records. I'm talking 20 records. Plot's going to his feature bag And you can hang it up I don know that Because I didn go on my phone I didn check my phone I a thug holiday nigga I love all of them I love Trick Daddy first three albums are He got some shit. He do. Amazing. And then I can say, Playa's first three albums, personally, Playa's first two albums are personal classics of mine. Like, when you have that classic, the album that's a classic to you, but everybody else just might not agree, The Real Testament is an amazing album. Maybe if y'all didn't understand, it is a personal classic. But again And then let's let Plows get into the feature bag We can go all day Feature bag is rough All day Hang it up His feature bag is rough There you go Lose my mind Jeezy Plows Go I'm so hood Go Yo you read your phone I did not read all this My phone was on the other chair Don't try to That dick big If he read his phone I know You was humble When you didn't read your phone I wasn't humble Because I was trying to do match up with you But we just naming the songs We can name them we can absolutely name that don't mean nothing to me though because on the verses like if you got enough street joints then you could gucci jeezy this gucci jeezy this what a lot of people had gucci winning that a lot of people had gucci winning that off of the antic of you dissing the homeboy but when we talking about no he played a lot of he played a lot of mixtape joints but from the record of you go song for song this and i'm not i'm taking my jeezy bias out of this just talking to people who love the music, it was not even close. The moment of the battle... I'm just telling you that depending on your performance and your mixtape records, you can make this... It wasn't either one of those why people picked Gucci. The two things you listed are not why they said Gucci. They said Gucci because of the antic of the smoking on your dead homie, oh, the disrespect, oh shit, you did that in his face. That's not... It was one song. You did one song. One song. One song does not win you an entire versus. So you win that round. Cool. You won that round You got it And Jeezy's rebuttal to that People was like Oh shit He smoked that He did But again The moment No that wasn't saying That in the moment No you got Jeezy That was the shit That was not being said In the moment Jeezy's rebuttal was hot That was not what was Being said in the moment That's not true That's just not true He was like One thing for certain Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Joe You're wrong here I'm not gonna have A Jeezy talk with you It's fine It's not fair That was not the overwhelming extent right after that battle. Sam, at all. What did I just say? Nowhere near. Niggas was worried about Jeezy. Niggas was afraid for him. Niggas felt like he could get shot in the middle of that. Nobody cared about that mature bullshit at the moment. And that's what he was talking about. And Gucci himself went and said, this is why it was good. You're talking about way later. My nigga, I'm telling you. Even you had to come over here and say, oh, no, they spoke first. They spoke first. He looked away. He looked away. What do you want me to say, Joe? And you know why you had to say that? Because. You took me fucking mature and I'm going to let you get your shit off. I'm going to show up dolo because I don't want to. I'm going to come by myself. I don't want to make sense of saying I know you got a point to the woman. You got a chip on this dolo. It's not revision. All this is what niggas say in the moment. I think that all of this is revision. Well, you can think that and you'll be wrong in your thinking, but we're talking about what the two people that were there said happened in the moment. I've been wrong before. I've been right a lot. More than that couch. Well, we're not going couch versus couch. I'm going to be challenging. I'm telling you, I'm going to bet on my wrong. I'm going to bet on that one. Well, you can bet on that. Don't bring me into that. You got to be wrong as hell. Joe, you be wrong. You got to be wrong, my nigga. He got his GV underwear on. I don't want to be biased and then be biased. I'm not being biased. I'm being objective and real. You got on GV boxer boots, nigga. You're just wrong. You're just wrong. You're just wrong. Learn how to be wrong and be idle. I've been wrong before. Be wrong now. Be wrong now. Your man got clapped up. Don't be mad about it. Be wrong now. I know. Come on. What's next? Versus. Versus. We here. Let's do it. It's all versus. Yeah. Versus. And my God. It was an ass woman. Who picked Hitboy? That's what I want to know. Who picked Hitboy? Show yourself. I don't think anybody up here. Nobody up here. Yeah, I'm going to go back and watch. None of you think he's better than I. It was a lot closer in our predictions than we making it sound right now. It wasn't like a nigga said Mike Lewis was going to put belt to ass. It could have been closer. Hitboy was terribly misplaced. Yeah, I don't know. Hitboy had going on again. Yeah, he misplaced his hands. And he did it before. Yeah, he is. I don't know. He did this in the boy Wonder Battle. think that or they don't be in touch with what the world looks at as the slaps versus what they look at as the slaps i don't know i don't think about the slaps i don't see how that could be i would have to imagine that there's someone on the production teams helping with some of the playlisting to some level no like no no disrespect too important to think that that wouldn't be i don't know it should be if it's not evidently i don't know because again this didn't look like Some of them verses, it looks like they have the songs already set and everything. When you see niggas going back talking to the DJ and stuff like that, I'm telling you, play this record. Yo, we doing this on the fly. Like Ja did. That's what Ja did. Like, yo, I'm making adjustments. All right, do this, do that, do this, do that. That's what it looked like happened here. No disrespect. Again, I keep saying this. There's no reason I should hear that A$AP Rocky song in the verses off of the new album. Oh, yeah, yeah. The song not bad. That's my point. The song not bad But this ain't the time Yeah yeah Questionable choices Questionable songs Yeah And even doing three of them In one round Was also not great I don't know what he was thinking I really don't know And You ready to tell me I was right Give it to me Ray Shremert Whew Oh yeah I was just making jokes though You figured they would come out They look good They look good They sounded good And they sounded good And that shit worked Juicy J Like when that happened I said alright It's a wrap Yeah What we doing And that would have been Before the Rihanna record It was before It's like I was like What we They was dragging Hitboy They was dragging Hitboy's name I ain't gonna lie It got sold Did you see him on Twitter afterwards No He took the X They had him He was letting him have it Yeah What he's saying He was like Oh fuck outta here Like he cursing fans out and stuff Cause they getting on him But why you playing Nas records And da da da da Like they He was just, nah. He didn't accept the L. You know how I went on a URL battle, and you can kind of tell who lost by when they go on Twitter after the battle? Yeah. This was that. It was clear as day from Hit Boy's timeline. He took the L and is taking the L badly. I ain't got nothing bad to say about Hit Boy because, like I said in the other part, he'll take the fight. Yeah. He's not going to run from the fight. He's got great records. I think he just misplayed the records. Like the Nas record You play a Nas record Very early on in the set Or put it up against Something that You're not about to win Or you don't play it Or you don't play It's always that No disrespect Again This is not If you don't I think I think what happened Was you looked at the verses Like let me just play Like my best beats Or something Or my favorite beats Maybe This is not the place For that Shape the crowd Type of our faves Right Right They didn't even budge When he did the whole trophy sample. This is where I got it from. They didn't even know. And you can hear it right away. The crowd was kind of whack, though, in respect to that. That crowd should have been a little bit more lit. It seemed like it was just the production team or something in the crowd. It did look like in-house crowd or something. Yeah. It looked like a sausage fest and no one was having fun. They had one stripper coming out. It was like, alright, man. Y'all got a couple dollars. We could have made this look a little bit flyer. I didn't like the venue. It was too dark there like that shit made me feel my age because i i know i don't want to see all you niggas on stage no more that part too yeah it might have been all the chaos and madness and i know who like a headache yeah somebody was babysitting up there like he was he wore the sun out with him hey dog what are we doing up here yo let's get and and you're the hometown favorite Yeah Like you get what I'm saying Like you should have had A better understanding Of what This Calls for Yeah It was a mess Alright It was a mess And you know what it is too I'm just sitting here Talking shit for three hours Fucking Old man I'm on some Old school shit This is gonna come off So far Producers Wasn't really meant To be seen Like this you're not wrong I hate this that's that's fair I don't think so it's some of them obviously the ones that perform we're not talking about Pharrell Eric Sermon we're not talking about Chris Lee yeah yeah yeah no there's a list of people that are excluded from what I'm saying it's small but just back in the day if you were a producer no matter how ill you were you were normally in your own producer world like Not really trying to be seen too much. What do you think that changed? The tag. Tags. I changed it. Just voice? I mean, what was the producer tag before that? I don't care for that. I'm open to hearing it. You might be right. Yeah, I never. Pharrell was using his voice. Alchemist had a tag and Beatliners had tags pretty early. But yeah. And I'm talking shit. I'm not trying to take credit for this. But when the beat tag became popular, the producers had to now change the game. They did. That's my opinion of it. I think also, not for nothing, when the producer became less of, like, the crew, and it became super freelance, everyone for everything, which is around Illmatic, that was kind of the start of it, really. Because no longer was the producer the RZA or Eric Sermon or Havoc or someone who was in the crew. You're now just a bunch of freelancers, everybody getting beats from everybody. You kind of had to do some shit to set yourself apart from whomever. I think these two niggas on stage, it was a lot of producer swag up there. Went for real. Say more. What do you mean? What's producer swag? Producer swag. What does that mean? What does that mean, bro? I don't know what you're saying. Come on, man. You just know what I'm saying, man. I don't get it. I don't get it. I'm not going to do it. Respect. Hitboy's a pretty good rapper. I don't want to hear him rapping when, like, Kanye or someone else is rapping respectfully. Oh, yeah, that was a mess. Yes, if Kanye is doing the verse, shut up, man. Do it. Get your hype man bag. You know what I'm saying? But not wrap the actual verse. All along with the whole show. Produce their swag. And I get it. It's a live performance, so you've got to try to do something. Can you say a little bit more? I'll tell you what it is. I hate more. Thank you, Park. Save me. Please. I'll tell you what another problem is. When the producers stopped becoming traditionally DJs, that didn't help either. Because back in the day, producers were typically DJs, so they know how to just hype the crowd, get out of the way, let the record be the record. They're not really DJs no more. Most of them. So they might have been rappers at one point or still trying to rap. Now this is how they know how to perform. Whereas a DJ would just get up there and... Listen, don't attack me. Don't come attack me. I ain't never had no swag neither. It's introverted rappers Didn't have to have swag either I come from that era But producers Oh my lord Rapping over the vocals The Nietzsche jeans It's just to be a mess It's just to be a mess A fucking bubble vest With some fucking Caterpillar boots With some fucking They be a mess Producers yo Pharrell did it Pharrell and Swiss Because Pharrell Pharrell's one of the best dressed men and always has been. So Pharrell, Swizz, and Tim became stars as the producers. They became from behind the scenes to be in the forefront. You didn't have a bunch of producers doing that prior to them. Niggas was making beats. Niggas didn't know what these niggas looked like until niggas knew the producers, but you couldn't spot them niggas in the crowd. Well, again, outside of Eric Sermon and Havoc. But they were part of the group. They were part of the group. Q-Tid. They were part of the group We're not talking about none of them A lot of real hip hop niggas Nah I ain't gonna say that But like Ali Shaheed Muhammad People might not know who he is if they see him If you're a hip hop head Niggas know Pharrell worldwide People know Swizz, Tim, worldwide They came from behind the camera So now every producer now thinks that they can do that And it's not the case It was really Kanye No because Swizz was popular before Kanye No, but Kanye put the super on top to that. Kanye was super. Two polos. Yeah. Swish beats. Blue book bags. He was, but he wasn't necessarily fashion. Fashion. Fashion. All up in the limelight. He didn't get looked at like the goofy producer. Okay. Never, never, never. That's what I'm saying. Swizz. So nobody really. Pharrell was weird, but nobody looked at him like, get your goofy ass out. Pharrell and them niggas became stars, and they own right. I hate that I'm having this talk On the back of Mike Will vs. Hitboy Because it sounds like I'm directly Speaking about them and I'm not But they inspired My train of thought while I was Watching And now I'm looking at producer entourages Too Niggas with glasses At least if I'm looking at the rapper entourage I'm looking at 70 niggas that I know will kill me if I do something. The producers just be having eggs. He's my cousin from Cincinnati. My nigga Rodger. Now he's on the trumpet, nigga. And this nigga right here will kill you. Yeah. Shout out to him. I'm sorry. I had an entertaining two hours. It was fun. I just think that Hit Boy completely misplayed his hand. That's all. Shout out to him. Shout out to Mike Will. Shout out to him. So you're saying that it could have been closer? It could have been way closer. Based over the discography that you guys know. Yeah, Sip Boy has a choice. I think Hit Boy had a better performance the first time he did versus. That too. That too. I did. I do. You're doing like unreleased records? It's not the place for that. Yeah, I think just producer versus should be set up differently than, like I wanted to look like it looked when Earth, Wind, and Fire battle. What's the name? It's Legend. It's Gold. It's Couches. It's Respect up here. And that's it. All that script. I think for two producers who aren't DJs or rappers, even though Hip does rap, but he's becoming more known for that. I think like a studio setting would have been better than a club setting. Yeah. Even though their records are both club records, I just think that it's... That would have been fire. Studio setting is fire. Like DMX or Snoop. Right. That would have been fire. Do y'all think Mike Will versus Mustard would have looked different? Yes. Oh, yeah. That's a heavyweight fight. That's a fight. Yes. That's a heavyweight fight. Yes There's not a lot of people That want to stand by Mustard Neither one of them Or Mike Will For that matter But you got to go Into a different You got to go into A different bag If you Mike Will Stand in front of Mustard Shit That fucking He's got records He's got records Mustard Mustard in a fair fight Yeah Mustard's not I was trying to tell Hitmaker that When he was up here Talking to Mustard Relax yo Relax You my man And you might You got joints But You got joints But most people That's That's I was saying this before now Right And TVO And TVO And TVO Yeah Oh god Anyway I didn't want to think about it anymore Yeah no Luster's one of them ones He's a tough one to go against The thing Versus Word That's a Y'all it's a story that And he DJs And performs He knows how to put on Sorry Carry on It's a story that we gotta cover People out there I think we're afraid to talk about it It's been all over the news Obviously It's all on social media is related to hip-hop, and I just think it would be irresponsible not to talk about it. Steel Smooth and Pete Rock have been going at it, and I'm not afraid to touch this. I don't know about y'all, but I'm not afraid of this story. Parks, can you tell us a little bit what's going on? Other blogs are ducking it. For sure. I know you're nervous. I think it's not political connection, but I'm going to take it on. You see me and Mark? I think a heart drop. I think I put you on the air. He was going to come out He went, I love you now I'm going to go to the bathroom B-Rock was on Joe and Jada And he was asked about his relationship with CL Spoof Which he replied It's not great Attributed that to jealousy Essentially It's the abridged version Although it wasn't much deeper in that CL Spoof Has a different side of that, I know I think he feels wronged in the relationship But I don't exactly understand why Oh I haven't heard CL sign And because about two years ago P-Rock was like I'm taking a high road on this You know what I mean and it seemed like he feels wrong by P-Rock I don't know if it's about money He replied and said There's not a jealous bone in my body If you know me you know who I am You know who I work with This is how I'm making my coin today Like I'm totally good with my career I play it out that couldn't be further from the truth But he was unclear on What's happening So is it one of those like Dog you know You know what you did You and I we both know what happened I ain't got to tell you Cause that's what it sounds like you said No it ain't jealousy I'm good My money's good I'm doing this I'm doing this It's something else I don't want to say it But you know Yeah You know what I mean That's what it feels like to me And I just hate that So many of these Legendary groups These legacy acts End up split I'm like what does it take For a hip hop group Duo Band Collective Whatever to stay together This is a very normal thing Groups I just don't like When it becomes public That's what I mean I'm not mad at the beef I'm mad at it being out Yeah I'm mad at one of the group members Not holding it down No matter what y'all went through Yeah Yeah Yeah Well I'm glad we were Taking on that story Because Shit that was my clothing house We can hold it down Whatever we going through What the fuck y'all got Out mouth for I remember that Yeah Yeah Yeah I don't want to hear From the legends And all these years later That part too rock and seal smooth yeah come on man it was like sacred sacred figures for me so listen but speaking of battles right because we were talking about the verses speaking of battles here's what i got for y'all i have t-rex speaking about a dispute that he's having with beasley about the battle where he had the seizure okay i thought this was pretty interesting i'm going to play the clip Show up at times look I assume y'all cuz of that. I'm still waiting on some motherfuckers on a Grievance We ain't talking about get you until I come They talking about doing it again until I come We ain't talking about that Your contract say you for you to show up I suppose got my money before I walked in the building You are really in a power party caffeine no more. So what I'm waiting on my money for I suppose I had that on the walk-in but see us again being a friend with Beasley I'll let you get away with that But what I'm not Gonna let you get away with Is not taking care of me Before we handle This Gigi Gani shit If not I'll be battling Everywhere else Business is business Right If I messed up on the car So I can't I can't battle nowhere else Right I'm so you gotta Fix your part too And I'm handling niggas The way they handle me You're fine It's business Friendship Is friendship We gotta separate them You saying Yo damn Yo T what's up Yo yo yo Your rent was good Yo look I need y'all to come Shoot this I need you to And I'm talking to you like a friend So now I'm getting friendship love from you But then when it turns around And you need me I'm talking like a businessman That's a talent Beasley got He could turn it off I'm saying it's business For them to say Shine care battle to wear Into this right? Yeah So it's business to say Until you give me some money I ain't going back on that stage This is really, really interesting to me. He's always been like that, though, right? So, shout out to Rex. I mean, if there was a battle that didn't happen that he did, and, like, he feels like if you paid him initially, you paid him to show up. And he felt like if the battle did not happen, not because it's my fault, that's all y'all. Y'all still got to pay me. And it was a situation like that before where if you want me to do it again, you have to rebook me. So Rex has always taken the stance of business. He said, I showed up. I did my part. I came to the building. I was prepared. Whatever happened, the battle couldn't happen. That has nothing to do with me. That's on y'all. So if you want me to, now if you're asking me to come back and re-battle him, you got to pay me the other portion that you owe me. And then you have to rebook me. So I have two questions with that. Because one, you're saying whatever happened is not on me, it's on y'all. But he had the seizure. Yeah, I'm talking about another incident. Oh, you're asking. Okay, okay. Why this is intriguing is because T-Rex had a seizure mid-battle. Yes. And my understanding is that he hasn't been paid. Because he goes on to say that Beasley had mad shit wrong with his contract. They should have had EMTs on the scene. They should have had – they said – he said, when I got there, the building was past capacity already, and I'm there with 20 niggas. By law, you're not even supposed to let us in the building this way. That's what he said. No, I'm just saying he's saying that. Go ahead, go ahead. I guess he's just trying to talk in his legal jargon to make his point. I just think it's interesting morally. It is. A thousand percent. Y'all know this is not my necessary. If you come to the event and have a heart attack, so you don't finish the battle, And I haven't paid you yet That's where I'm stuck at But that's his point His point is I shouldn't have opened my mouth Yeah Until I got my money Because I don't know what their contracts say But he just said The contract says When I show up I'm supposed to get paid You know how When you used to do gigs Nigga don't even get out the car Until the money That's why this point is moot It's not They change the contract At one point They change the contract At one point If you're not able to perform Or if you choke I don't know about that one But at one point Like if you choke Remember a lot of niggas are choking You're not getting your other half over a deductive But he just said that I don't know it, but he just said, yo My contract stays when I show up Yes, that's true If that is the case, because we boys I'm like, yo, just pay me later Because we boys, if it's strange If there's a promoter in Oklahoma that I don't know I'm going to get my money before I get out the car Before I walk in the building So you come in the building Unpaid And you started this battle Unpaid then you had a major health condition and we're unable to finish the battle unpaid yes is it totally off base for beasley to think we have we got to do this battle because i still got to pay you you didn't finish the battle i have your money and you didn't finish the battle i want to give it to you so finish the battle so i think that's what their discrepancy is but he's saying It's other shit that I've done for you that went around with the contract states. So you can't have it on both ways. You can't have it that when it benefits you, we can circumvent the contract. But then when it benefits you, we got to stick to the letter of law or the contract. You can't have it both ways. And it happens like that with niggas that have leverage. A lot of times the boss or the nigga with the most money or whatever the case it may be will have the leverage and pull that. But it's nobody's job to make T-Rex go by proper protocol. That's not Beasley's job. That's T-Rex's job. So if he came in the building and started rapping without getting paid, then you can't later say, I was supposed to get paid before I came in the building. I agree with that. Even if you look past it for the friend aspect, what you're expecting is somebody to also look out. No. That's what you're expecting. Basically, I did you a solid. I did right about it. You're shaking your head, no, but this is what he did. If my contract says I don't get paid, I mean, I get paid on the walk-in, Or I don't even walk in without getting paid. Like, I've been to battles with my brother. Ars is not going on that stage until he got that money and that money is taken care of. They do that. And if you do now go on that stage for whatever reason prior to that money getting you getting that money. Yeah, you already stepped in there. Now, the quote unquote right thing to do is to still pay you. But they don't owe you that, though. That is just the right thing to do. The right thing is that, nigga, I had to seize you on the stage. You my man. If Rex thinks that I had a seizure on the stage, give me something. Like, nigga, look out because I had a seizure on the stage. Look out. Now, if you want to go the legal route by saying that, yo, A, you didn't complete the battle so I don't have to pay you, then I'm going to go the legal route and say, well, these are the things that were missing here. If you want to go that route. These are the things that were missing. My contract says this. You didn't do that. I looked out because you're my man. And if you want to go that route, if you want to say I didn't complete it. I'm with him. Is that the order that it went? Bro, I'm at a contract. Is that the order that it was? Yes. That I was on the right side. Yeah. I know. Rex feels like, yo, I can't. Rex feels like, yo, I came in here. You know how I usually do it. Rex always gets his other half when he walks in. He said, I didn't even do that. And he said, just because I have a seizure, you should just steal in your heart as my man, as my 50th case. Again, do the right thing. Now, if you're talking about contractual that you didn't complete the battle, so I'm not paying you, then let's go based off of the contract. I want you, because if you're saying go off the battle because you didn't complete the battle, fine. We'll do that. I'll eat that. But now, you have to rebook me again then. If you want me to battle again, we have to. And that's what Rex is saying. And I'm with that. Oh, hell, y'all crazy now. I'm with that. No, I'm saying. If we're going by the contract, we're going by the contract. I don't agree with the whole rebooking thing either. So, and either the outcomes, and I'm not going to drag this because I don't know how important this is to people out here. But it's a business combo. forget you know we still have it and in any of these in any of these other scenarios bees gets fucked in because if he does things the right way here here's your money before you walk in you have a a seizure or a heart attack you can't finish the battle bees don't get a battle the crowd don't get a battle i have to rebook you to get the battle i paid for already okay cool or you could come in here uh you have your seizure now i'm your man so i give you the money anyway and now i still got to rebook a battle and pay you again i thought he wasn't he saying if you look just give me something yeah just give me something and now we can do that i'm not talking about this packages yeah my biggest thing is what does the contract say yeah that's my biggest thing if the contract says yo you have to finish your battle in a certain manner like flip said where you don't choke or whatever the case may be, and then you get paid? If I have a heart attack and then my man looks at me and says, what does his contract say? I'm going to punch you in your face. Cool. But if I have a heart attack, I don't care what the contract says. If you're my man, nigga, send it. I'm fucked up. And I don't know that T-Rex is fucked up. And in the event you don't, we don't talk about shit else unless we talk about some bread first. Which is what T-Rex is saying. And that's what he's saying. I'll never be understanding. Unless you have to book me now. I'm not doing that battle. I'm not doing shit else. We're going to talk about some bread first. Hey, brother Sean shit, too. Yeah. Sean was able to go nowhere until he completed a certain amount of battles for you guys. Contractually. Right. Honor this contract first. Okay, fine. And until we honor this, we ain't got nothing to talk about. And I'm with Rex on that sense. Would you do that, Joe? If you have somewhere to show up, you got paid for it, and then something happened, And Let's remove the relationship Off the table Something happened Would you tell the company That you had to rebook me Or would you just go up there Like when you feel in bed Or whatever happens And just do the obligation I mean Say it's somebody that has it Say it's a company that has it You got to I don't do business like that I would complete the gig You would complete I'm completing the job I'm not going to make anybody rebook me not to say that that's the wrong way if it were me but if they plan with you and not taking care of you then okay if we only business then we only business you have to book me now and that's what Rex is saying I'm not mad at that the relationship was over period the relationship was over once I had a heart attack and you told me fuck out of here on my brain honestly if you my man The relationship The friendship is over At that point Well I don't think You can't fuck out of it I think Beasley just wants you To come completely I don't think I just want you to come back For free and do another battle If somebody came to God And had a health condition And had to leave For half the day There's not a world Where I would call them And say I'm talking I'm talking You half the day Yeah I agree Exactly That's just That's not who I am Exactly And that's what I was about to say When you took the other side of it I thought you were taking The other side of it At first like yo dog and and and for me we gentlemen right so we're gonna play a gentleman's game we're gonna conduct business as gentlemen until i see that we're not gentlemen anymore yeah so once it's not gentlemanly now all bets is off we're gonna stick to the letter of the law and so that's how i conduct business in my real life like dog we we gentlemen that's why i split that was the order so you show me that we're not because if that's the order then yes right like Yeah. Okay, this is how we're playing now. Okay, cool. I don't want to go back to the Grammys, but Will.i.am, who I listen to. This is probably one of the last years where it's only. Will.i.am says this is one of the last years that we'll have human interaction, so you better enjoy it. And I don't think he's far off. He's far off. And the reason why I'm here at the red carpet at the Grammys 2026, because I predict that this is probably one of the last years where it's only humans on the red carpet. Oh, okay. Just like if you were to go out and absorb what the world is like in 2022, 2022 is one of the last years where it was only humans driving cars on the street. Now there's Waymo's on the street. And just like there's Waymo's on the streets where there's no human driving the vehicles, fully autonomous, level five autonomy, there will be level 5 artistry. And that level 5 artistry will be agent and robot. And that agent and robot will be here on the red carpet before 2030. And AP will be like, hey, whatever the name of that bot is. And it will be telling you the things that it's done and what it's working on. So we're out. He's not always right. When I went to Atlanta for InvestFest, we don't have it as much up here. Bro, they got them them cabs are in abundance in Atlanta. We don't really got them up here like that. Down there, that shit was normal. That shit was normal down there. I was like, damn. I saw the clickbaitiness of that interview, and I didn't watch it for that reason. But I agree, because he said words only humans. That's a very important distinction. Yeah, they make me sound like there ain't going to be no humans. Correct. And I think what the reality of how it will look sooner than later is more like the girl that did the interview with Gayle King being on the red carpet. Because that's the reality of AI as we deal with it now is just some dude using technology as a likeness visually and audibly. But it's really a dude or a female creating this shit. And that will be the person that's representing on the carpet. Lastly with the Grammys, did y'all see what Wayne had to say about it? I forgot about Carol G and that whole girls that look good at the Grammys. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. Wayne, he said, congrats to all the nominees and winners. Wasn't included, as usual. I got to work harder, as usual. One time for my slime, Bill Belly. To my Belichick. Always. Bill Belichick, who they are not letting in the Hall of Fame. Yeah. At all. Which I understand. Now. Which I understand. For the first ballot. First ballot. Yeah, first ballot. No, you don't. You can't make sense of that. I must say I would vote that way. But if they're saying, look, we got to give you a little tap-tap because we believe you cheated, and so we're not going to vote for you the first round. But no one has said that. That's just what we're guessing. And if that's the reason I'm saying I understand. Then you get it. I think you should stay in our business and say that, though. Yeah, I still don't get it. I still don't get it. Yo, dog, how many rings have I got? Seven? Eight. Bill has eight. Eight. He has eight. Two as a DC. I cheated. Six as a DC. I cheated all of them? How many of you got to cheat to get punished, though? Prove I cheated. Stand up business. Say it. Otherwise, you look like a coward, quite frankly. I'm just saying I understand the logic of it. Again, like, you know why you can't defend that logic? You don't think they're going to do that to Tom, do you? That's an interesting question. No. And that was the answer. The answer was no. Would you hold Tom? And this is a football question for you because I don't know the answer. Would Tom be held accountable for a cheating scandal? They were deflating balls for him. They said that he was one that would be a cheating scandal. He doesn't have plausible deniability. He can't be like, they did this and I didn't undo it. He could, maybe. That might be the reason why they might justify it. But if he could, then Bill could. Wasn't that part of the ball boy scandal? Where it was Tom's first ball boy? I'm asking because I don't know. Okay, then yeah, then they should do it to Tom, too. Tom is a first-bound Hall of Famer. For sure. And here he becomes available. He's going to be the first name. Fuck first bout. We got Tom and who else? And it's for that reason that the rest of that is just motion. Then you're right. If they're going to hold a double standard. He's the dick. Bill Belichick is the dick, and I think they're trying to punish him like, aha, you've been a dick to us, and this is our chance for the get back. The voters are oppressed primarily, and he was not a oppressed darling by any stretch of the imagination. I mean, okay, but Robert Kraft? Oppressed darling, though, compared to Bill. Joe, he's got personality. He's one of the only owners that really you see visibly out your show. He'd be outside. Nigga getting his dick. Anyway. The reporters I spoke to got caught in a rubbing tug. You know what I mean? Down at the Super Bowl. Turnover Priest. Robert Kraft should be an old fan. Of course. He should. I agree with reporters, though, standing on business. Because I've talked to a couple of reporters who have said they weren't voters, but they said that the voters they spoke to. So this is second hand. That's what I've heard, too. Yeah, but they've said very clearly that that's the reason. Yeah. Stay in business. I respect that. Yeah. Let me deal with Pete Rose. We were talking about something before I derailed us. Wayne. Wayne. Wayne. Do y'all agree that he was left out? What way he was supposed to be on? Stop it. Carter Six. What way he was supposed to be on? Respectfully. I love Lil Wayne. He's been absolutely killed in the future. He said that album should have been nominated? He wasn't included in the Grammy. Chance has a fight. But he did say, I need to work harder. I need to work harder. Politically correct? As usual. I respect that. This is a normal thing. He's been nominated over 20-something times He has five Grammys So he's saying He's underappreciated by the Grammys I will absolutely admit that I don't think this was a issue for that though This was not one of them times Respectfully I mean, I forgot that one came out And that's probably for the best How many Grammys does Wayne have? Five Five Which is not bad, by the way Take a bow That was a lot of fucking Grammys I mean, my fucker got none Take a five Grab your glass cleaner, your Windex Whatever you clean it with Wax it Yeah, go You got it You got five of them motherfuckers Yeah You got five What you I don't know how anybody can hear that album No need to be gluttonous Right Right You get it No need to be gluttonous I'm not gonna hold you yo I think it's something there yo Even when the Kendrick announcement You had to say something Kendrick wins It wasn't until that Like I think it's something I could be reaching But I think this is a Kendrick thing I think it's just keep seeing Kendrick win Every time Kendrick pop up with something, here come Wayne. Okay. I don't know. I'm just, it could be something else there. Nothing to matter, if that's sake. I'd be trying to see it through. I can't because they, it's another level that they just were on musically. But I'd be trying to see it through the eyes of someone who was the best rapper in the world universally. And then now you have to look at somebody else kind of be that and how you'll behave as you watch that. But not just that. It would have to be tough. Look, look, not just that. I try to have some grace. While I was the best rapper, I didn't get none of what you're getting like this. That's not fair. But I'm just saying, look, from those eyes, though, while I was number one in the world. No, but that's no musician in Grammy history saying Stevie Wonder has gotten what Kendrick has gotten. I'm not just talking about the Grammys. I'm talking about like Super Bowl There's things but for Wayne I ran hip hop I had hip hop on my back for years Let me just get to my point What I'm trying to say I'm looking at it from Wayne's point of view Where I was the man I'm no longer the man And now I'm watching the man And y'all are holding him up In a way that I've never been held up It could be some type of It could be something there I think we've always held up Wayne as one of the ghosts, as anybody within the culture or commentary on hip-hop. If you don't, I don't really take you seriously. That being said, most of his major run was mixtape shit, and unfortunately, that does not allow you to be qualified in these categories. At least at that time, specifically, now with the Chance record 10 years ago, it's changed a little bit, but... I'm not even talking about mixtape shit. I'm talking about Carter 2, Carter 3 Wayne. I'm talking about what I was still fish on the commercial records. What Kendrick is right now. No, Carter III Wayne was something. No, I'm talking about talent-wise. I'm talking about attention, mainstream attention. To Parks' point, when you start putting Wayne as the best rapper in the world, the Grammy board might not be listening to mixtapes that solidified that position. I agree. Not just that, when you start talking about Kendrick Lamar as a representation of hip-hop and as a representation of black America, he and Lil Wayne are on opposite sides of that spectrum, bro, to anybody with eyes. He also won Best Rap Album for Carly 3. Carly 3 was it? It was represented. He was represented. And Rap Solo Performance for a milli, Best Rap Song for a milli. He was represented when he was supposed to be represented. At the height of his career. But to Ice's point, most artists still feel slighted. They still don't feel like they've got enough. Whether it's fair or not, because I agree with you. I think it's apples and oranges on the mixtape versus mainstream. Does how an artist's age matter to y'all? How an artist presents themselves, bro. I don't want to be disrespectful. But a lot of people, when they think of Lil Wayne, they start thinking about his issues, the troubles, all of that stuff. People be scared to put him on the stage sometimes. Because you never know which Wayne is going to show up on the stage. I'm not being disrespectful to the man at all. We love Lil Wayne But The Grammy board Got something to think about That was the conversation Around the Super Bowl That was the conversation Wayne go do a comedy album Real quick I just read it It says Drake only got five Grammys It's kind of surprising To me Drake don't fuck with them right It's ancient Young Money in general Just don't Like five Grammys Don't fuck with them Oh okay And Nicki has zero Nicki has That's what I'm saying To me Anybody got a gripe It's Nicki I mean Nicki Nicki and Drake Nicki not having Grammys Is crazy How many he got? 27. Oh, he was on the all-time list. That's the case, and Drake and Nicki have fights, for sure. Look how y'all says producer credit. I mean, there's a lot. Yeah, he got it. I'm just saying, Drake and Nicki have a fight, for sure. If Drake only has five and Nicki has zero over the last 15 years, they have a fight. Fact check, Drake only having five Grammys. I just Googled it. Flip just said it. I think that's accurate. Flip said it, it's true. I'm agree with you. Drake has won five Grammy Awards from 55 nominations. Throughout his career. That's a problem. That's sick. That's a problem. That is sick. But, I mean, honestly, I think that's part of what made the Grammys course correct. Maybe. Yeah. That's a good point. They got a lot wrong. That regime got a lot wrong for a lot of years. That's a good point. So, yeah. 55 nominations and I only won five awards. He had a lot of joy. If I was homeboy from the Grammys, I would just go drop 10 off at Drake's door. On the strip. Yeah, yo. We got about that. We going to make these up. Y'all think you ever see Drake at the Grammys again? Ever. Yeah. Probably. Now he will. Yeah, now. Now you will. If you get that 10. You got to drop that 10 in his door. No, if he make up with Universal. Like, I think if he and Universal, like, get back into chummy chum land, and he put out a good project, I think they'll make it up to him. I'm like, yo, you're just going to run this. Yeah, they're going to give him the big one. You're going to run this. Go ahead. Take this. I'm shocked that y'all said that. I think so. I'm shocked y'all said that. I don't think that he'll ever make up with them. But I said, if he makes up with them and he puts out a good project. Next year, Grammys, do you think Drake will be there representing Iceman? No. Depends. Depends. No. I don't think next year. Depends on the music. Depends on the music. I think that's a solid no. I think it depends on how the music. I feel like next year, even if he gets 55 nominations, he's got to stay out home. And I don't think that's what I'm saying. And let me be clear. I don't think they're going to nominate him that much after that last Grammy speech where he won. When he was up there holding an award, telling people, yo, these don't mean shit. He literally was saying, yo, everybody out there, keep working. You're winning. As long as millions of people are saying your lyrics word for word, that's a win. This don't mean nothing. When you stand there and say that, they're like, all right, cool. Next. Yes. Yo, go drop 10 of them shits off. But if y'all ain't short me and shabbed me, I wouldn't even be able to do that. No, I agree. I agree. But the fact that you make that stance. Now I almost want to know what songs Drake won for the only other. That was God's plan. Hotline Bling. Best rap album. Oh, never mind. Best rap song. Wait for you. It says Demonstra. I don't know the fuck that is. They gave him a Grammy for the Thames joint. Best rap song. Hotline Bling. Okay, that doesn't surprise me. That's a fact. They couldn't lie about that one. Yeah, that shit was. That's undeniable. Best Rap Song God's Play Been Fence Melodic Rap Performance Wait For You 2020 The 5 awards were Take Care Album Flip this up We just said that Rap Song And Rap Song Performance Both Hotline Bling And Rap Song Rap Performance Both God's Play And Rap Song And The Monster too I don't know why He got it up there It's fine It don't matter It's fine He won't be there Yeah that's disrespectful He shouldn't Yeah, he should. This is more than it. It should be more than it. Nicky's been nominated 12 times with zero. Even from best new artists all the way up. That's crazy to me. Nicky. That's awful. Yeah, that's awful. Yeah, but that's a tough. The list was going around all the rappers to never win a Grammy. It's a tough list. It's a tough list of MZs. I mean, not saying that. I've been a long time without a Grammy. Yeah, you did. Yeah. I've been a long time. How many Grammy Jay got? Long time. Jay's got a lot. Jay had the most until the 75. Kendrick got 27 Kendrick just passed Jade like this I do feel like the Grammy Should kind of add like They'll never do it But add like a retroactive Grammy I agree Hey We missed this one Yeah we missed this We missed this one Yeah for sure And that's where some of them All time careers They're doing Sharegot Is going to come Like the Like I'm Achievement one True There's some rappers That's going to get that soon Um Sherry Shepard Do whatever you say Courtesy is Kelly Clarkson To announce Ooh We getting tea Because Sherry Shepard's show Ended Kelly Clarkson's show ended. Sherry Shepard after four seasons. Kelly Clarkson after seven seasons. Sherry took over after Wendy, right? Sherry took over after Wendy and had signed a contract that had her working through the 25-26 season. Okay. So to a lot of fans, this was unexpected. Lonnie Love says, Sherry should have been given the courtesy of announcing her show's end instead of an article announcing it. Just like Kelly got to announce her show's end. It's not The Real, which was a panel show, but this was a solo-hosted show. Or the production company could have at least made a joint announcement as a producer and host. Scene canceled, stamped all over your picture is depressing, especially when the show was having good ratings. Only onward and upward from here, Sherry Sheppard. She wrote that. No, Lonnie Love wrote that. Lonnie Love wrote that. I agree. Somebody said many shows canceled. So I can tell you, you always want the opportunity to take a body of your audience. You always want the opportunity to announce it on your own terms, to frame it the way you want. I mean, I thought the production company did a decent job of saying, hey, we believe in this show still. We want to put it on other platforms. We want to explore opportunities to put it elsewhere, maybe stream it, maybe make it a podcast. I don't know what their options are. That might just be bullshit. But regardless, they're saying we still love Cher and believe in her, which is a good thing. But the artist or the presenter, the host, whatever, should be able to say that themselves. I agree with Lonnie 100% on that You said the show was contracted To 25-26 right Yeah and they're still going to air They didn't just clip it They're still going to air Which is all the more reason why she should be able to Yeah Lauren LaRosa said that Jennifer She got from a source Jennifer Hudson show The next cancellation And I'm tagging that as gossip I need more than Lauren DeRozan I'm not a fucker But you know I'm bad with it But yeah I need more than A source told me Jennifer Hudson is on the chopping block Yeah Yeah nah I'm a whole off on that Yeah But I Even though I told you Like Lauren is a I respect her and I fuck where I'm sure she has a source I'm gonna wait to get more facts I got you While I say anything about it But I'm worried But I did tell you motherfuckers that the spirit tunnel was losing spirits. You said that. For real. You said that. But that was when I thought like some of the D-list celebrities was there, but it's A-list niggas there and the spirit tunnel is still and I'm going to miss it. I mean, I'm not going to lie to you. I'm going to miss it. The spirit tunnel or the show? The spirit tunnel. You should do the show. Yeah. I should do what show? So you can do the spirit tunnel. Joe Button. Joe Button. Pump, pump, pump it up. You know it's going to be a punk. You know it. Huh? You know it. Funny shit. I seen Skills do the spirit tunnel. So I pulled the phone close to my face to watch him make a fool of himself. But he didn't. He killed me. He smoked that shit. He killed it down. Okay. So then by the end, I was a fan. I was like, oh, man, let's go for the thing. I don't want to win a skill. He's killing that shit a little bit. I would look like a total doofus. I got two left feet. I mean, it's spoken words. It's spoken words. Yeah, right. That's a Grammy. Yeah, you got a Grammy. Skills, crack the code. I've been saying I want to do that album for 17 years. We can't get that spoken word. Well, some spoken word artists was on fire today. I've seen people posting on social media very upset that Skills got the spoken word. They basically were like, we've been doing this for the crap for years, and now rappers who don't make it make a spoken word album as a kind of backdoor way to get a Grammy and get the recognition that they wanted as rappers. Ta-da! I'm not saying that's true And I love skills I'm just saying that was a That is a big backlash In the poetry It is rap I would only need I would want to know I would only need to hear that From people in that community That have been nominated Well it's a new category That's the problem They're basically saying Like they finally made a category for us And then here come The rappers That takes You know To just Steady rap slow It is fucked up Is it? But I love it. I'm on. I'm on. I'm not trying to be funny. I'm not trying to be a dick. Is it? I think it's fucked up. Take the beat away. What's right? Have you take. You heard Kanye at Death Poetry. Mm-hmm. That man, I promise. She's so self-conscious. Bro, he. It's a poem. When you add the beat and you add the. I don't know that shit y'all do. Then it becomes a song. But if you take the beat away and all. No. So why would they not be correct for being nominated? It's still my same talent. That's what I'm saying. I agree with the gripe. You rapped over and beat your whole career. No, I didn't. I might write. This would be like what if Taylor Swift dropped a rap album tomorrow We be pissed if she won the best rap album I would I saying it not the same The spoken word there are a lot of rappers that are poets You don know if they're a poet or not. The category is brand new. So my entry is here. I am a poet and I'm a rapper too. You can't just necessarily put me in one box. You're making sense. I'm just telling you I would be mad. I would be mad but I'm also happy for a skill set. I'm planning to follow right up next year spoken word album. This is the second word. It's his first win. You know what I'm saying? It's his third spoken word of him. He's been doing this for a little bit. Let me take it off skills for a minute. I like skills. I respect skills as a rapper, as a ghost writer, as a poet. This isn't about him for me. But there is a difference between just taking your rap and slowing it down. Spoken word has its own culture, its own genre. It has its own way of performing. I find when rappers do it, they literally just... Like, you gave a great example. When Kanye is doing the All Falls Down, that first All Falls Down verse, it's very much like a rap verse, a very traditional rap verse, even in terms of the rhyme scheme. Whereas spoken word artists go in a lot of directions. It's more complicated. It's more nuanced. And I, it gets a lot, people, to me, that's the heart of spoken word, especially since 2000. Take your pentameter somewhere else, man. Let Mad Skills get his fucking W. And I got different flows. But I don't want to think about him because he's the one that won. I understand the gripe outside of skills. I don't want to make it. Because if I defend it, it's like you're mine. Those are your niggas, them spoken words. I love skills too. Now you want to get in there. Yeah, you hear him? Get your fucking ass. That's over there. That's true. Let me tell you something. This got it done. In 2002, Black Lily, five spots. O2. O2. O2, man. O2. Jardin laughing at the top of it. Oh, man. That was a lot of fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 99 was lit 95 right Keep going back Every man better have that In his head Just ready at all times The year you can freely speak about And before then Fuck around and say that wrong year if you want Oh my lord I'm Scott Friedman Yeah, same Don't have a spirited conversation Look, what you said you did in 2017 Loving you That's it That's it That's all that I want to do Mark how things go With your spirited conversation Great, man I heard nothing about Total Logo in a while Yeah, man, life is good, man You know You got a high voice, Doc You already know, boy She let her back in the house Yeah, I'm back in the house Life is good, man You know, Barry, life is good Y'all know how it is. Being coupled up, partnered up, enjoying life. I ain't got no complaints. How about y'all? Amazing. Silky smooth. It's great. Peaceful. Be peaceful. Happy. Happy and in love. No fights. No arguments. Nope. I even just randomly those days. Yo, man, you ain't too chappy, man. That's awesome. You know what? You all right. I ain't going to hold you. Unprompted. You ain't had bad. Hey, when we all right, we all right. I really can't see life without you. I got to be dead ass. I got to be dead ass about it, man. I do love your stupid ass head. I saw the clip of you and your wife of, uh, oh, I must say, they don't have ass on the internet. Wait, why? Play the clip. Play the Mark clip. See, I thought that. Mark White ain't playing with him no more since Toso Loco and all that. That's really what the bottom line is. So she is really serving it to him on multiple issues. One, the last name during marriage thing, she put belt to ass with him. She's taking him on that one? Belt to ass. He lost his voice. He muted up. He didn't say a word. And the sharing your location digitally, she muted him up there. Exactly. Ended him. He didn't really have much to say on that topic either. Yeah, your little comedic wit. I'm talking again. It just fell at the twink. It don't work, huh? The boys come back. No, it was bad. It don't work well. What are we doing this one? In the first two weeks of the show, asking why we don't have the same last name. I think people also don't realize that much of the world does not change their name. We also have to think about the history of why people change their name, because you had dominion over me, the children, the house. Like, we were all part of your property, essentially. So there's different levels of locations here. You let I get that off completely me. It's not even something that we ever considered I don't share my location with anyone. I just don't need to do that. I don't want to do that I don't want to feel like I'm in surveilled so when you bought with your girlfriend You never look out to the spot You need body and you Like why do you need to track me? I just told you I'm both That's enough And don't ask again Now I get why you come here and turn up on us nigga The only shit you want to tell me I'm going to take it out. I can abuse that over here. That's what they do. The user turns into the user. She does not play. So, first of all, the clip is from our podcast and this thing together, Patreon, check it out. Check it out, fire. I gave responses to both of those things. I just thought they were less spicy for the real. First of all, we both agree on the last name thing. I don't want my wife to have my last name. Really? No, no, no. You're not. Why? Yeah, you talked about it. She got a bigger foot than him. Why? She put it down. I've never. Why would I want to take my last name? Take her last name. Well, for her. I agree. Thank you, Parks. No, what's the reason? You can't just say you agree. I should say that I agree. No, you say you agree because what? Your wife? No disrespect. Your wives are saying that I don't want to take your last name. Is that why you agree? Because you don't want to have the fight? Before I met my wife, I didn't want somebody to have my last name. So what's the reason? I encourage my wife to keep her last name. You don't have to urinate. Don't kick me either. He don't. Don't kick me. He got a 60-year-old prostate. He might. I think it's fine for her to maintain her own identity. Because he wants to. Okay. He wants to. You seriously wanted to take my last name. And you told him not to. I said, you don't do that. These married niggas be getting up. Seriously? No. I'm married. I'm married. I'm married. I'm married. I'm married. Exactly. I got my last name and I'm married. What the fuck are you talking about? My mom doesn't have my dad's last name. I grew up in this. This is like normal. My sisters don't have their... They got these guys. We just don't want that. It's like a buffalo law. Why should she have my last name? Tell me that. Because you got a dick. No, no. You reverse nonsense. I don't know why. Traditionally, in tradition, right? Wives take the husband's last name, correct? Would you say that? In America, yeah. And there are a lot of countries... My point is there's other ways to do it And I don't want to do that And I don't see any reason I don't see any reason to do that You know what I mean What reason would that be I'll come over What I'm saying is Before I ever met my wife I didn't want My future wife to have Only the children though We share names My children are hyphenated All my children are hyphenated For that reason Because they're both about It's not my property Did you do anything? I see why you go to karate. I wasn't doing it. I see why you go boxing. Them bright niggas. What is it? What are you talking about? What? I'm saying my kids are hyphenated. That's his thing. Okay. Does your wife hyphenate or no? No. And I'm not hyphenated. Neither of us are hyphenated. But the children are. You're in your father's name, right? Yeah. Okay. But the children are hyphenated. And my father has, I mean, like, tradition. Yeah. Yes. My father also has the name of his slave owner. Like, you can break a tradition. My question was did y'all get married at a church or anything like that? Did y'all do anything else traditional in terms of your marriage or your wedding? No, but I'm not against tradition. I'm saying I just don't believe that every tradition you have to keep going. You just didn't like that. No, there's other traditions I'm sure we don't believe in as well. I'm just saying like just because you've been doing something for a long time doesn't mean you have to keep doing it because some traditions aren't healthy. Some traditions don't work for everybody. So you are technically the end of your lineage Well no No My son has Not the same Sure I mean there are other hills in my house I mean in my family I have siblings But y'all are the last line of hills Well no And solely hills I have siblings whose children Oh yeah But yeah if I were an only child then yes, it'd be the end of my lineage, which I'm okay with. I'm okay with it. The hills go back like four generations, and it goes to Lottery, Meriwether, Hill, the slave mass in Georgia. Like, I'm good with that. I'm good if it ends. I was the same way. Like, because on my end, I'm the last. Like, well, then my daughter has my last name now, but there's no telling when she has children, she'll be married. You know how that goes. Unless she decides to keep her name. But there's no other, like, have y'all had that talk? What about you and you? Have y'all had to talk about last names? Like, is she going to take frees? Yeah, I'm going to stop, dude. I'm serious. I'm joking about Breeze Is your lady going to take your name? Is that important to you? They know that Breeze They know that Breeze You're doing it You're doing it You gotta be careful You're doing it You know Big Breeze ain't playing with me Come on man You want to do what? Now that I'm listening to you married niggas There might have been a time where my girl was pumping that up. Fuck out of here, nigga. Who paid the wife? I'll now pronounce the man and wife. You don't even want hyphens. No. I don't want hyphens. I don't want hyphens. I'm just curious to know what people. No. I don't want hyphens. I have friends, for example, who hyphenate, but the whole family hyphenate. I get it. So if he's Smith and she's Jones, it's like they both become the Smith Joneses and the kids become the Smith Joneses. No, her last name is Ahlief. It's the best family. You don't get to be no more Lillard or whatever her name is. No more Lillard. Yeah, that's it. You're done now. That's it. What do you think? The king has chosen his wife. And part of that is the last name. I'm picking my thing coming to America. You are a queen. You're a button now. Yo, I'm going to holler at your dad. It's hot. All of that. That last name shit. Lillard. It's a rat. He's not yours. It's a button now. That's mine. I'm taking care of this. This is our family. Sorry, Mr. Lillard. What the hell is yours? It's my family. No, yes. Yes. Dog, when you go pay the girl's father a dowry or when you go ask for her. What? I was talking about from yesteryear Or you go ask for a girl's father I mean girl's father for their hand in marriage You are essentially telling her father You are my time Your responsibility I got it now No more Lillard Yeah I hear what you're saying I'm saying like that whole tradition of going to the Father taking her from him and keeping her giving the dowry that whole thing is like I'm replacing the father that's patriarchy I understand what you're saying it's patriarchy but it's also symbolic it's also symbolic it's patriarchy to tell the dad he's the patriarchy it's rooted in patriarchy it is by definition the father is the patriarchy Let me ask you, let me ask you. Do you believe that the man is the head of the household? No. Okay. I believe we head our household together. We are partners. What if the man has a dick? I would know. Clearly. God damn. Listen, he just don't everybody else. Everybody else is there to run. I love Park Story. I was trying to give up the last name I brought you You know what Nah, I'm cool If my wife had said that to me I'd be like, no, I keep yours Really? But she didn't say that to you She said that she wanted to keep hers See, that's the part It wasn't even a discussion No, no, we know We don't want that No, it wasn't a discussion That's what we're saying We know that it didn't need to be one That's what we're saying. Fuck you. Do y'all talk about it in detail in the episode? Well, what's your stance on, not to spoil too much, on her hand putting belt the ass on the digital footprint thing? Again, we see that a tiny bit different, but in general, I don't want to track nobody. What's digital footprint? I agree with that. I think that shit's crazy. Boom. I agree with that. And Mia, it's your bad. I don't think that's crazy. I don't think it's crazy. I think it's, for me, it's always about the why of it. If you're doing it for safety, that's one thing. If you're doing it like, I need to make sure you are where you say you are. And a lot of people pretend they're doing it for safety, but they really are doing it for insecurity. Don't shoot at nobody in here, yo. Just make your point. Come on. You should always get personal when we have a regular, normal conversation. Word. Don't consume that joke. Let him do his thing. Don't consume that joke, man. Stop. Come on, man. Niggas are sitting here. Word. We already checked out the whole thing on In This Thing Together on Podcast Mark on My Hill Patreon. Please check it out. God damn, boy. I wish you would try to hyphenate. I'm not with the hyphen shit. I think it's clunky and it's still clunky. Yeah, it's not. There's no need for it. Your wife got your last name? I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I don't know. You know that. Thank you. You know that. Fish don't take his girl last name. No, you don't. Fish, what do you do if your girl... I know you ain't going to do that. Fish, what do you do if your girl... Escalador. Escalador. What the fuck is that? What the fuck is that? That's a Portuguese last name. We all know no Portuguese last name. At all. It's like Escalador, nigga. Nah, it's a play that shit. Can you imagine? No. If your lady said, we're not getting mad. No, I know if you're going to say that. Never mind. If your lady says, it's a non-negotiable for me. I want to keep my name. You keep yours. What do you do? Oh, then you're going to go. question I don't know how to answer it cuz my girl wouldn't say that we've got One God Oh, she should honestly speak at all right. Never mind. I guess my question. How important is it to you? I get this all value is important. It's important to you. It's important to you as well. Yeah, okay Some things people do just out of tradition, but they don't really have an image. You better have a boy, though. Yo, dog. If we married, we become in one house, like one family, one household, all of that shit, then yes, you're taking my last name. That is happening. Or you could live in a different house. Lineage, tradition, all of those things that we build, and we're trying to build our name. You know what I'm saying? Your name. No, our. Then why don't you take hers? Because I got a dick. I'm not kidding. Tell me why. I said if I got a dick. We get it. Everybody here has a dick. No, everybody don't. Because my girl's father, that was their family. That's their family's name. So it's patriarchy, but I'm not disagreeing with you. What if she pays the dowry for you? Yeah, she can't. Why? Because you're a bad father's past. Oh, you got you. Pay moms. And my mother don't take care of me. My mother's not responsible for me. Is your lady's parents taking care of her right now? Her father, too. Till you pass off the hand in marriage, her father definitely. It's patriarchy because he's taking care of his daughter. Yeah. In a traditional sense, no. But listen to this. If I'm not around, let's say this. I'm cool with being dumped. Look, if I'm not around, right? If I'm not around and my girl catches a flat tire or my girl gets into something that she can't handle and she needs a male presence. Who does she call? She calls her dad. And so then when I come on to the scene. I'm going to say on AAA. No, if I come onto the scene and now I have relieved her father of all of those responsibilities. Well, y'all following the... You follow? What are you talking about? I don't know what they're doing. My wife better call me. They married. I'm not. I'm just not. My wife better call me, nigga. The two married people have a different... I said if I'm not, I'm not. I wasn't here. I hear you. I hear you. I'm shooting him. Oh, shit. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. That's it. You'll hear it on playback. You'll hear it on playback. Oh, shit. Nah, I don't want to hear it on playback. But yeah, dog, if your girl don't have a boyfriend. Hey, yo, listen. Hold on. Let's talk to you. What did Pop say in the room? Stop. You can't talk to me. I'm saying if your girl didn't have a man. Who's the first male presence your daughter calls? Your girl calls. She calls her dad if he's available. When you now, your father can be there. My girl's calling me. She's not calling her father. Hmm. What are we talking about? Those responsibilities that we once had fell on me the second that we decided to be committed in the relationship. And that's patriarchy? That's what I'm saying. It is. It's kind of rooted in peace. You're literally saying I'm her daddy now. No, it's not. No, it's not. And that's when y'all make it sound bad. I'm not saying I'm her daddy. I'm saying I'm her partner in life. So those responsibilities should fall on me as a man in her life. It's like you calling another chick for something that your girl should be doing. But I wish you is, but that's what they were partners. But in this thing, she's taking your name, not the opposite to it. It's not an equal partnership in that way. Have you called another girl for advice or for anything, right? Let's keep apples to apples. Call your mom. Or that. Right. How about that? I want to hear. I'm going to keep apples to apples. A lot of things, their mom was their emergency contact on a lot of shit. Wham. And then you turn around and get married. Who's your emergency contact? Not even married. Not even married. When you get into a real relationship, your emergency contact is now your girl. It's the same shit. So if it's the same shit, then why is she taking your name and not the opposite? Can I say something? That's all I'm saying. Because I said so. Because that's her father's name. I need a patriarchy. That's her father's name. I think it's unfair that y'all put, even if it is patriarchy, I think it's unfair that y'all put patriarchy with something that's tradition. Something that's a lot of tradition. Because you didn't make that decision. I don't think it's patriarchy. It just sounds so bad. It sounds bad. I don't think that's what you put on that. But, Mark, you making an excuse to put you. The whole marriage. I mean, from I go to the father and ask for her. He gives me money for her. We have a ceremony. He walks me down. Give me her hand. I take my name. That's mine. Hold on. Lafferty. No, no, no. Let me ask you a question. We got to get the fuck out of here. No, no, no. Let me ask you. He's not wrong. He's not wrong. He's not wrong. He's not wrong. But we say it's like, yo, everything in patriarchy is bad. It's not. We all come up here and say, yo, double standards sometimes are just double standards. They all are bad if that's the case. But you have said on the podcast before that you pay majority of your bills in your household. Yeah. Why is that? Because I make a lot more. I make 10 times as much as my wife. But when you were leveled out, you would still find that you're masculine. Bro, don't act like you're not a masculine man. I just say that. We know you. But you feel like it's your duty. Even when you were laid off or going through some financial problems, you still feel like it's your manly thing to step up to the occasion. Yeah. And I think it's unhealthy. I'm not disagreeing. I know that way. That's good. And patriarchy, too. Yeah. I have some unhealthy patriarchy. I'm trying to get rid of. But some of it you got rid of already. Yeah. Yeah. We work it. The Lord is working on me. You know what I'm saying? That's the whole thing. Like, yo, some of these things are patriarchy in nature, but you pick and choose when it's beneficial for you to be that. Yeah. I'm just trying to pick and choose. Fantasizing. I'm not mad about that. And I teach my wife about that. Because, you know, when it's time to open doors and pay for checks or, you know what I mean, if a hacker comes around, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like, I get it. You know what I mean? We all got to like this. You niggas sound like, they big. Go downstairs. This is our house. Hey, wake up. Wake up. You heard that? Yo. Did you hear that? We're not your mace bull. Go down. This thing is not like you. You can stand back to do a wolf run. That's not like you. Y'all are wild. Yeah, we okay? Y'all heard that noise in the basement. Yeah, we still got our own last names and we hear a noise. This happy man for himself there. I know the good hiding spot in the house. The button's over here. Okay, y'all. I'm waiting for my splinter. Both of these guns is mine. Get your own gun. Get the hill gun. These are the old guns. These guns are the old guns. I get it. I'm so uneducated. I never looked at any of that wedding traditional stuff that y'all just named. It's all patriarchy. It is. All of them. David's definition. Yeah, but I don't like that because I don't like the definition of patriarch. What? A form of social organization in which the father is the supreme authority in the family, clan, or tribe, and the descent is reckoned in the male line and the children belonging to the father's clan and tribe. That's a picture. You are a button What's the opposite When you say you're a button You are a part of the button clan You are a button When you go home to South Carolina And those tombstones say button That is your clan, your lineage And that's how it's always been How would it go in matriarchy? Follow the There's a really Interesting documentary on a On a West African village That is matriarchy A lot of African vids. Matriarchal and matrilineal societies. I mean, our... Americans always want to take me to an African village. No. Is there any other example? Because I want you to... Is there any other example anywhere else in the world? Before we were enslaved, a lot of shit didn't come from us. That's the point. Like, if you go back before we were enslaved, shit looks different. Is it the Jewish religion sort of matriarchal? Is that it follows the mother's bloodline? That's another Jewish example. Halakha says that, you know, that Jewishness, Jewish identity is transferred through the woman and through motherhood. If my dad's Jewish and my mom's not, then I'm not Jewish. But if my mom's Jewish and my dad's not. Yeah. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. And the more you know. Anywho. Corey, undo this. Oh, that's a beautiful picture you're doing. That's a beautiful picture. Nah, this is fun, man. You crazy. I'm going to listen back to what the fuck you're saying. All right, here we go. Disney and the NFL have finalized a major media reshuffling that brings the NFL network under ESPN's control, marking one of the most consequential partnerships in modern sports media. ESPN is buying the league's in-house TV assets, including NFL Network and the rights to distribute NFL Red Zone, while the NFL takes a minority ownership stake in ESPN itself. Oh, wow. Whoa. That structure tightens the relationship between the sport and its biggest broadcast partner, aligning incentives on content distribution and long-term growth rather than keeping them at arm's length. That's crazy. I can't remember a time where I've seen two bohemoths actually, like it's not just one gobbled up the other one. Right, right. The deal tightens ESPN's control over must-watch NFL content while giving the league a financial stake in the network's success, reflecting a shift toward deeper and shared partnerships between sports leagues and media companies. That's interesting. That's big, big, big, big, big business right there. 10% ownership. Yeah, yeah. And ESPN. And Disney? 10% ownership sake in Disney? No, probably ESPN. Just ESPN, okay. I'm sure. Yeah, don't get crazy now. I'm just... It's still big business. It's still big business, yeah. What I was trying to ask you, Mark, because my brain is delayed. If we're against patriarchy here, Then what would be the alternative? He was answering I think the answer is equality I don't want a matriarchal society either In the same way like If I want to get rid of white supremacy I don't want black supremacy I want a society where we can all be equal And where we can all reimagine Our relationships in a way where One doesn't have to dominate the other That's the point for me It's about trying to have a war without domination That's all Got it So that's the word that's throwing things off here supreme because why can't we both be authorities that's what i want well that's what he's saying with the but take out each other's last name and i kiss have both last names but what we are we both authorities but i have a say and you have a say When the say is tied Somebody has to have The electoral vote You know what's crazy yo When me and my girl really disagree on something Most times I give way Like literally 90 Probably 95% of the time My girl I just be like alright cool You got it You know what I'm saying Me and my girl Sometimes she has a point and I have a point We just are in a disagreement Or You just give it to her Or some mansion Like alright man She'll stop cooking for me You know what I'm saying Like most times I just like I'm not No You're gonna trick me I got Nope You good for it Nah That's I don't know I almost got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got That shit That shit was tough You such a kid Anyway What else is important man Can we do a quick rest in peace Before we get to the end of the show Definitely For the great We're at the end Huh I said before we get to the end That's why I was left Oh I know That's what I'm saying I'm going to do it right here in the middle To the great Demond Wilson Name is Grady Demond Wilson But the great Demond Wilson Also known as Lamont From Sanford and Son Yeah One of the most special shows of the 70s, one of the most important sitcoms in American history, one of the most original sitcoms, Norman Lear, one of his products. But Norman Lear wasn't really on the set for this one. It wasn't like All in the Family and Them. This show was about the genius of Red Fox. And it was a genius also of DeMond Wilson. And a lot of times people think about Red Fox but don't understand that that show don't work without DeMond Wilson's genius. He was a brilliant actor, grew up performing at Apollo, was a dancer, trained dancer, tap dancer, and other forms of dance. I mean, you saw that in some of the special episodes where they did talent shows. You know, back in the 70s, when they had the talent show, Good Talent would be the Red Party, you'd realize all them black actors could do everything. They could sing, dance, play sports. I mean, they did every fucking thing. And DeMar Wilson was one of those people. You know, he did the five-year run on Sanford and Son. Then he had his own show on CBS, Baby, I'm Back. He also was, for a brief time, on the New Odd Couple. And then he kind of walked away from Hollywood and was a very influential minister in the Kojic Church, Church of God and Christ. Which is what he spent much of his career doing So he was somebody who was filled with Spirit and hope and love He was a beautiful spirit to a lot of people And he was a wonderful actor And one of the really unsung legends In our tradition So salute to him and rest in peace Rest in peace Very well said I'm glad that I know what patriarchy means We gotta say rest in peace to Michael 5,000 Watson real quick DJ producer, founder of Social House Absolute legend, Houston legend I think he was 51 52 something like that Don't know the details but rest in peace Thank you Yeah word thank you Because now when somebody says Hey that's big junkie Like yeah bitch Oh now you know Yeah That's a script You want to break the script How you think How you want it to go We can break a lot of Tradition now That'd be my thing But it's a Baby saying Oh my god The world is Right on picture No No no no Real talk Is Patriarchy They love patriarchy When it's beneficial Yeah If you really want There's a real conversation I love that shit That's why I think You gotta make more money Than me Listen man I'm about to start Showing up to the Patriarchy debates Hey, put me in that shit where they got the desk in the middle of the circle and you got to debate 90 people that disagree with you. Go on, let me argue for Patriarch. That's horrible. Mark, you shouldn't work with us. This dude just speaks to me. Turns out, right down the holdout. Did you guys see, I was talking about the Knicks game, and they played the Lakers earlier. That was like in the first 10 seconds of the clock. But did you all see – Caitlin Clark was talking to Reggie Miller and the panel, and they asked Reggie Miller who Caitlin Clark's player comp would be in the NBA. Did you all see any of that? No. Missed it. Oh, then you all missed it. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Before you play it, who do you think it is? Well, he already knows. He watched it. I'm saying your personal opinion. Who do I think her player comp is in the NBA? Right this second? Y'all going to kill me. Conk Nipple. Steph. That's the young Steph. Steph with Trey. And young Steph. Yeah, Steph. Trey's also good, too. Because she passes better than Conk Nipple. Yeah, she's a much better playmaker. Much better. Yeah, yeah. She's a star of the league. And that part. Okay. Now play it. I'm going Steph. Now play it. Mind you of the young lady to your right. I like Peyton Pritchard from Boston. The way he's able to handle it. The basketball, he makes big shots when the shot clock's running down, a lot like this young lady right here. Isn't it a freak? Now I'm going to show it to y'all so y'all can see her face. Mind you of the young lady to your right. I like Peyton Pritchard from Boston, the way he's able to handle the basketball. He makes big shots when the shot clock's running down, a lot like this young lady right here. See, that's the other thing. You asked me, in my opinion, who the player comp was. But sitting right here talking to you I'll just say whatever If she was sitting in front of my face I would have never said Conquered Apple Never I would have said Michael Jordan I would have said that If she's sitting right next to me I believe it Imagine that fucking Pistol Pete You can't look You can't look her in her face And say Peyton Pritchard Peyton Pritchard And again no disrespect Peyton Pritchard I love Peyton Pritchard He's a guard on the Celtics He's super tough But in no world I respect him That nigga He's dragging my nephew and then Nevada camp. I said, ow! That nigga was a monster. And Reggie's being literal. He's talking about the exact style. He made a mistake. That's an error. That's the broadcasting mistake. He's just doing like saying like exact player style. He's not talking about talent. No, she plays similar to Steph. Oh, I agree. If you wanted to fight, that's why I said her or Trey. Like, yo, dog, she plays, she don't play like no fucking Peyton. Even if he thought that, he shouldn't have said that to her. Yeah, I think. That's a broadcasting error. You got to go big. You got to say stuff. You got to go big. I think it's the... Peyton Pritchard don't start. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, he's not a starter. And I'm not disrespecting, because I think Peyton Pritchard is a monster. He's super tough. But fam, you can't say the girl that damn near is her and Angel Reese and Asia, respectively, are holding this league on their back, and you call her Peyton Pritchard. Can't do it, bro. You'll need to unlock your iPhone first. Yeah, that's what you got to do. I'm sitting on the coat. Well, Melissa can get your look. Why you got your phone lock? Huh? Why you got your phone lock? She got a password? Oh, no. She said the pocket no more. Wait, she got her last name and the password. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. It's worse than we thought, y'all. Do you have a password, too? What did you say? Do you have a password, also? Somewhere, yeah. I don't know about her. Oh, fuck. Wait. I'm saying we have each other's passwords. I just didn't memorize. Here you go. What am I missing? We got a great part of the show. What am I saying? Nothing. I'm saying we have each other's passwords. I just don't remember my heart. She writes it on my heart. That's what I'm saying. I understand. What, you think I should only have hers? You made it feel like you don't have hers. No, I said I do. I just have to. She remembers yours, though. I don't think so. I don't think she remembers hers. Listen, check out All in this thing together. Because they got all in the family. Check out what they shit on Facebook. They're in this thing together, yes. I have nothing more that's important to share with you guys. We're already at the three hour mark. I love this part. I do think that it could end now. It can. But however, I could introduce you guys to Brittany Renner's new man. and let y'all hear. That's such a good show. Think about it. I can let y'all hear him directly speak to her. They have a podcast coming. That's my birthday, Tweet. We're not doing that, Tweet. Y'all sure? We don't want to hear it, but go ahead and play it. God damn, yo. Fuck. Y'all sure? Yeah, but I can play it. I appreciate you letting me and with your son, you know, and being able to be a stepfather, someone to, you know, care for him in ways that people didn't believe they would for you. So I really appreciate that. And that's, that takes a lot of trust to even open up like that, you know, so I commend you for that. I have trouble with my daughter and seeing her at the moment and it hurts me every day. But seeing y'all together, it makes me feel better. It makes me feel like we have something. It's not like mom. Unfortunately, I got baby mama issues. And you got baby daddy issues. But we're handling this together and And one thing I would just encourage anybody to do is to never give up on yourself. I've seen the Shannon shot, right? Where he's like, you'll never be in a relationship with someone that loves you, basically. And we're here to debunk that, you know? We're here to just say, hey, look, you don't get to write God's story, you know? You don't get to do that. You're safe. I'm here. I'm here, too. Nigga, when did she meet this nigga? Are you fucking crazy? Yo, nigga, are you crazy? Nigga, is that the best you can say? Man, shut the fuck up and turn that pop cat off. Get us on, nigga. Oh, my God. Talk your shit, Playboy. Kevin gave the win, nigga. You ain't with that nigga. What is it, man? Talk that shit around, Rocco. I just looked. I couldn't find it. I couldn't find it. I'm with nothing Brittany Renner is a friend of the show so I support her I just thought that y'all might need to hear from her new man fresh out of her marriage with Kevin Gates yesterday she posted more on Instagram and said like next chapter yeah so they're doing it they're doing it congratulations love wins again god damn it she said she want to come up here again I want to have her I would love to have her alright she's in the top five of people I want to come up here again Are you kidding me? She said she's doing something, but after that she want to come up here. Oh, please. Please. I'm at the edge of my seat for that one. Let's go, Brittany. Good show. Good show. All right, my last question about the Grammys, and it's not about the Grammys. When I bought the Clips album, that's when they changed the beat on that joint. And then they changed it back. And then they changed it back. So now I don't have the one that it was, and I like that one. So how can I get it? I think I have. But how can they do that if I bought my album? That's why I keep telling you. Even when you, well, if you bought it and if you downloaded the original, fully download it, because remember, that was a mistake you was having. You're not downloading them all. If you download it, you have the file, and then it's always there. If you don't download it, whenever you go back to click it, whatever changes they make is what you're going to get. Oh, that's horrible. I keep telling everybody, do you have the other version? Of course I have the other version. All right, man, I need the other version. All right, I'm done. I'm done. Good show. Y'all got anything else y'all need to get off your chest? It was classic. They're going to say we ran for it. Shit is a classic. This is a good episode. Don Honey. They're going to say we ran from it. Which? No, we took Pete Rockets. He was a head on. Oh, okay. You're right. And, like, look, man, we're not scared of the powerful up top, man. We're not running from nobody. That's right. No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. No. You're back. Listen. You going to take us out of here, boy? I ain't never been. Let's see. You got a big one. I ain't never been pussy. I ain't never ran. Never will. If you're listening out there, I want you to know I see some of the same exact things that you see. And I'm really, really disturbed by it all. So much so, I'm making a call to action right this second, y'all. I need me and you guys out there to head down to the Roc Nation office. Seriously. At 5 p.m. this Saturday. 5 p.m. this Saturday. Eastern time, y'all. I think that along with you guys' help, we'll be able to get to the bottom of what that undercover anonymous hotline tip meant. And when we finish down there at Roc Nation, we're taking this bad boy down to Virginia. Pusha T's name was in that, too, on that phone call. The train being Jay's D, Pusha T, and Harvey Weinstein. In 96, too. In 96. Yo, man, come on up, boss. Can you believe that? Yo, biggity-danky, the white man said it. Come on, sit down, bro. Harvey Weinstein didn't push a tee. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, man. Biggity-dank of tee. Push was 18. Probably 130 pounds. In depth. Yo, he goes, okay, yo, he kissed. No, for real. Yo, honestly, no, we have to get to the bottom of what was going on. That shit don't sit right in my soul and spirit. Some of these people we look up to, yo, this Saturday at 5 p.m., meet me down there, and we're going to really get to the bottom of what they meant. Somebody got some planning to do? Yeah, we're going to. Don't worry, y'all. We ain't running from that. We ain't running from that this weekend. Watch. It's going to look like January 6th. Oh my god, yo Mark got the fuck out of here Where you go, yo Why you get up? Come on, come on, Mark Cause Mark worked in Rock Nation Yeah, we're all about Rock Nation One day we're gonna go down I don't know if I y'all work for it too Since y'all tried to hit me I've been putting the case together Let me get you niggas Not today You can play the music But who's the person you're gonna start with? Flip, you already said it. No, no, no. Probably you. Nigga, you just wave me off, nigga, like I'm nothing? I'm not starting with you is what I was saying. Nigga, you need to. I don't need to. Ooh, I agree. What's up with Joe? Yeah. We got you. We're going to break this whole love. I went to watch it, too. You were legit, yo. Walking down the street, watching me. So imagine you're fresh off your debut album. Dead Presidents of Can I Live. You got to be fresh off of it. No, no. Yeah, should have been stable. Street single. Yo, you blasted up. Yo, Fox, you so stupid. You're my lifetime. You think Bobby Wiles is getting a little head and you look down. You're getting out of the way. There's a big harm. Terrence, sit up. Just to be clear for the audience's benefit We're not laughing at The accusations They're saying that they're implausible That they don't believe the accusations I don't want people to later on be like They're laughing at somebody No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't want them to twist them. Of course not. I know, but people make them. You're right, you're right. Yeah, it's very important. My apologies. This is why we need you here. The joke, what they're laughing at is the implausibility that at that time, in the 90s, that Jay-Z would even be at the social status, he'd even have access to those people. And Pusha T even more so, whether it was 07 or whatever, that he would have access to these social services. 96, bro. Yeah, it seems implausible. Right, 96 or 06? I think it was 07 for Pusha T. So they were saying two different time periods. both of which seem implausible to a lot of people. It was an anonymous tip, and those papers are filled with that. I don't know what's true. They're going to say we're capable for Jay-Z. I'm not capable of. It's the same way. Some of the ones against other people who are revered from a different sector of the world, I don't really necessarily agree with you. I don't know if Chomsky was in the training. That's what I'm saying. He was filling in. My whole thing was, and I just posted it up there on the screen, the same justice.gov that posted these three million pages also wrote, This production may include fake or falsely submitted images, documents, or videos As everything that was sent to the FBI by the public was included in this production They're admitting there's a lot of bullshit in there We didn't, all of this shit, there's a lot of bullshit in there We don't know, we just, hey, if it came to us, we gave it to y'all So y'all can't say we held it to you So to be clear, we're not holding a hold and pushing teeth to a higher standard or a lower standard We're saying everybody in those documents should be examined We should look for the truth But we shouldn't assume that anybody in there is innocent or guilty Just because we like them or don't like them That's all. That's all. Very, very, very well said. Listen, some of y'all kids out there missed the memo. There's this new trend on the Internet where adults are replying to things now. So adults are reading. Adults are replying. We're not just taking the kiddie version of what's going on, which would be we need your voices because Pusha T, Jay-Z, and Harvey Weinstein in 96 had too much fun. Call me when you get a little more on that. Hey, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute now. Hey, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute now. Yeah, you're going to swing and throw in my mind. You've got everything moving inside. Great show today, great show today, man. Hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time, hey. I bid you adieu, farewell, adios, arrivederci, hasta la vista, au revoir, so long, goodbye, with simple head novels to fights. Hey. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time. Hey, remember life is a series of moments And moments pass So let's make this one last As if it's all we have And last but certainly not least The baddies are insecure The stagnant women want to travel And the closed-minded women want you to cheat some things Grab you a Tylenol, you might need it Yeah, come on Rock on, don't got this in them Rock on, don't Stop it Stop it Rock on ain't never gonna give you slave in the Odyssey. He never even heard of that. Stop it, man. Stop playing with me. I think you want Rock on to pop out. Rock on just can't. You should stop saying his name, honestly. Rock on can't fuck with me at all when it come to just selecting records. So let's just, let's go down. Let's go down. I think you should leave his name alone. That's my man, though. Shout out to him. Shout out to Doughboy and all that. Hey, I mean. Hey, wait a minute. Hey. Hey. Say your name. Don't try to be tough with me. You got sparkles on your hoodie, nigga. Dance to this. You can dance to this. And on your sweatpants. Uniquely defined. Watch that mouth, boy. What's everybody doing this week? Anything fun? Anything fun? Anything I can make fun of? Anything that's interesting? We live in life, bro. We live in life. Enjoy the music. It's a 900 episode. We just want to go out party. Fuck how we gonna go I want to be inside out Oh, I want to be inside out Oh, I want to be inside out Oh, I want to be inside out Oh, I want to be inside out Mark, you still doing a Super Bowl kickback or something? Nah, I'll be out of the country. Got it, got it. Cut up. Got it, got it Parks, I saw the Super Bowl flyer you made Yeah, man I saw that flyer you made Bonito Bowl Yeah, we saw your flyer skills We saw it My kava skills No, that's not me That's my wife That's my lovely, talented wife Is she ordering the catering? It's going to be No, I'm getting some wings from a spot My man's bringing some mac and cheese from the spot I'm going to cook some shit Some other people cooking some other shit Potluck, I guess Got it Got it, got it, got it, man. I'm going to be in there starving on Zep Bound. Or not starving on Zep Bound. Fuck it. Until next time, man. We love y'all. Y'all hold it down. Out! Come on, come on, happy! Last year. And she's always on that phone, when you're supposed to take a few times, and friends of life. Don't get up, she's gonna get up, don't get up, don't get up, don't get up, don't get up, don't get up, don't get up, don't get up, don't get up. If y'all don't bring the hook back, oh damn it. What the hell? They was grooving. God damn it. Alright, enough of y'all. They got three minutes left on the record. Back then they put the 12-inch version. They would be damned for 13. Music gotta keep up with that cocaine, huh? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Joe Bud. Enough of that. J.B.P., J.B.P., where would you be without the J.B.P.? You've never heard of Joe Bud?