Ep. 395 - The Old Way Is Collapsing—Here’s How to Manifest Through the Shift

This year is the wildfire, acceleration, radical independence, charisma and rebellion, breaking from constraints, unwilling to live small. The era we're moving into, it's where we're actually going to have fulfillment because we're so ourselves. If you are sitting there almost banging your head against the wall wondering, why can't I solve this problem? Why can't I step through this threshold? why can't I step into the life I want? Why can't I figure out this problem I'm trying to figure out my life? Why is this thing coming back up that feels challenging right now? If that is you, you are not alone. You are actually right on time. There is a massive shift happening right now. We talked about this a lot at our TBM speaking tour this fall. Jenna Zoe talks about this a ton on her substack, the new paradigm. But even if you're just energetically tuning into what you're seeing, you're watching an old world start to crumble. You're watching people's inauthenticity reveal itself. Things that are built off of foundations of lack of integrity, lack of embodied intention, you're watching that start to shed off. And as we do that, our nervous systems are trying to recalculate and our egos are trying to figure out like I used to protect you in this way, but the way the world is operating now, I don't understand how to do it. And it's making us even more overwhelmed probably than ever before. So if you are feeling that you are not alone today, Lacey and I are going to dive into the energetics right now and what you can do about it and how you can start to prepare yourself and how you can start to hold a bit more compassion for yourself as you're navigating this in-between liminal phase. I am someone who is studying so much about what this new energy that's coming to us is going to hold and bring and that felt sense within me. But simultaneously, I'm in the real world. There's real shit happening all the time and having to process and feel that. And I feel like we're all not alone in this. I've talked to so many people that have this push and pull within them. They want this better world, but then they look around and they're like, what's going on here. And so I think this is an invitation in this episode to figure out what feels true for you. You know, what are you seeding into in this chapter and in this season? And how can you attune to those parts? How can you let them have a voice? How can you journal on them? How can you utilize the DIs to process those emotional swings? Because that's the way we're going to get through is really, really developing that trust muscle with self. Lacey's going to share a brand new channeling that came through for her recently about a really archetypal energy that we can start to bring into our meditations or bring into our deep imagining practice or even just our day-to-day to help be a bit of a comfort during this time and during this season. So by the end of this episode, you will be feeling a lot more grounded and just starting to get the seeds of what things you may need to attune to more and where you need to self-soothe and where you need to ground and where you need to come back to self. And really, really, if there's one thing that I can reinforce throughout this episode as you're listening, what is true for you? What feels correct today? And is that truth coming from fear or is that truth coming from alignment and your higher self? discerning between those two will be the magic in this season. Because what we're describing in this episode isn't a nice to think about. It's energy that's already happening and already affecting us. So let's talk about it. And now a word from our partners. I am going to give you a massive beauty hack that a lot of people don't talk about. Our stress, our tension, our unprocessed emotions show up on our face, our clenched jaw, our forward brow, overstimulated nervous system. 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And now onto the episode. lacy welcome back we have so much to talk about it's so interesting because when this is live we will have released the new york city speaking tour as a virtual event if you guys were not able to hear us in person meet us in person this conversation is so potent like watching it back i'm like of course we released it at this point in february because this is the exact thing that people need to hear right now on their purpose of what's shedding, what's coming off. I mean, I said to Daniel last week, I'm like, wow, the wheels of the bus are really coming off. Society right now, the collective wheels are coming off. This is going to be so interesting to see where everything lands. And, you know, we hear the fire horse year, everyone's buzzing about it, but it's even so much more than that. So let's get into it and how we can manifest with alignment through this? Yeah, I do see all of the fire horse buzz energy. And it's funny because you and I and Jenna are so deep in the perspective of the big dissolvement that's happening through the new paradigm. But also Jenna, if you guys haven't followed Jenna Zoe, her sub stack, she launched one and she's really been putting out incredible content on astrology as well. And so it's really interesting to see all of the depths of systems overlapping and having a lot of similar messaging. I personally, like I know the energetics of the fire horse, Chinese zodiac astrology hasn't ever been the system that connects the deepest to me. It hasn't felt, and obviously the people who practice in this and the depths of it, and especially in feng shui are so skilled that it makes such deep sense to them. But I'm personally finding human design feels a lot more present in the moment. But I have to say everything that people are saying, you know, and all the buzziness of the fire horse of 2026 aligns with a lot of the human design stuff. So I'm really excited to dive in. Just as a reminder to people, we've been talking about it so much, but the new paradigm and what we've learned from Jenna and how if you've been doing to be magnetic work, doing these tools that we've been sharing for the last 10 years, and you are so anchored in your authenticity right now, you are fucking floating through this so magnetically as I feel I am. I don't know. Do you feel that Jessica? Yes and no. I feel like I'm on two different timelines. What is coming, I feel as it's like crystallized, like it's real. Like I feel what that is going to feel like. And I'm so rooted in what's happening here too, that it's still a dying off process of, okay, this is like, I'm talking to friends. I'm going to the coffee shop. I'm interacting with these people. I'm doing this. I'm on the social media marketplace. I can feel into those energies that are happening in there. And I think because of that, I'm like, oh, there's a gap. There's this and we see where we're going. But I don't think as a collective, we know, and even internally for a lot of people, like, I don't think they know what that means, what they're going to have to give up, what they're going to have to shed, what they're going to have to let go of. I'm actually writing a sub stack on this about like our ego deaths and the layers of the ego deaths that are happening right now. But do you feel like you're having those or do you just see that happening everywhere around you? I see it happening everywhere around me internally. It's actually more if I like get to the root of the sensation, it's actually a grief for any prior parts. All of these old selves, they will not exist over here. And not even the old selves that I'm embodied in right now or like I'm living from. But it's like all these flashes of some of the beautiful things that are part of society that may not continue on in this way. And there is a lot of like, oh my God, like, yeah, we're going to have to really let all of that go. It's going to be such a shift to like a more pure way of interacting with things. But also like we leaned on these things for so long. The other thing I'm seeing come up, and I'm definitely feeling this, is old protector parts. So like one route I'm seeing it come up is in business, where as a brand, you always want to grow. You want to get to that next level. And I think the decisions we're making as a brand is we want to be as informed of the marketplace as possible and also always doing our own thing and building it from the heart. and I'm constantly, especially with content and social media and looking at that, I'm a student. I'm like, okay, what are the best of the best doing? How are they doing this? What's the trends? What's going on here? And it's almost like I need to learn it. I need to learn the rules. And then I need to check myself and be like, okay, break all of it. Like forget you learned it. If it applies, great, but like totally forget all of that. And then, okay, what do we create from this space then? but it's so easy to get sucked into the matrixy thing of everyone. I mean, I'm sure other content creators out there can feel this. Every other thing you see is here's how you grow. This is how you have a hook. Everything's about storytelling. You need to be a media empire. You need to be this. You need to be X. Like the programming is so strong. And when you look at the people who are doing it most successfully now, it's through those needs. It's through the optimization, it's through the hacking, it's through all of that stuff. And not to say that you can't find success in that route, but I think where we're headed, there will be a disconnect when it is not truly coming from the heart, when it's not authentic, when it's not someone's actual words, when it's just chat GBT regurgitation, it's going to be felt and people are going to get the ick and then they're going to tune out and then the pendulum is going to shift, but the pendulum hasn't shifted yet. And so I think people are like, but that route is still working. And I'm trying to grow my business here today, not in a year or five years. And so I feel like I'm sitting in this weird seat of, yes, that is true today, but I'm always thinking about the future thing. I'm just like, yeah, but like, we have to think about this because that's coming. And so it's a weird time to be creating content or putting things out because I'm so duly aware of both things happening simultaneously. I love that. And I mean, it's so fun to watch your process too. I'm getting to watch your process in real time, which is so fun because we know, I know as a brand internally, the goals that Jessica has set for TBM. And so now all your Capricorn is like, we're going to get there. But then, you know, there's this duality and you're like, damn it, I've learned this formula. And I know we kind of have to do it, but it's not authentic. And we, I know where this is headed and that's going to outperform everything because that's all that people are going to be interested in eventually. And so it's going to be so fun to watch when you hit that breaking point where you just have to let everything drop it off. But this is what the magic is because like when I was saying at the top of this episode, if you have been practicing this work and the same message we've been giving for 10 years, this is when it all comes together and you really soar from that place. And what I'm talking about is the purest forms of authenticity. That's going to be the only thing that truly takes people forward. Could you imagine going into the new paradigm, even into the firehorse energy, which we'll get into those energetics in a bit, or even into all this astrology that's coming to a head in this next week? Could you imagine going into that and not having TPM tools? No. Oh God, dear Lord. That's like a level of all I can attest that to or compare it to is like the worst rock bottoms breakups of my life. Because you're like, whoa, everything's changing. The world is changing. Things are getting stripped. But knowing this ahead of time, and I love that that's how Jenna's talking about the new paradigm where she's like, I'm trying to set people up before the hit really hits. because when I say I feel like I'm cruising through it, I had to have a really big ego death the last few months of the year last year 2025 which happened naturally for me It was like if I lose all this if I lose all that but all I am going to wake up and do every day is ask the universe how can I be more authentic and only engage in the things that are the purest forms of authenticity for me, right? And I'm in a really privileged position because I can't do that. But I noticed myself from where I was last year to now where I was still in the wheel of fear. Gotta learn how to optimize the content and the social media and the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It is really a cycle of fear. And I do think that the duality is going to become this, where it's like we start to lose fear because things get so stripped from us that all that's left are these tools we know, authenticity expanders. I mean, every single teaching we've had in this program is going to super speed serve someone because we're all going to face deeper stripping this year. I completely agree. And it's, it's interesting because talking to the TBM community, talking to the team, everyone who's doing the work for anyone who's not a member who like, doesn't understand like, okay, what does that mean on a practical level? Like to be utilizing these tools alongside, it's being able to clock, oh my gosh, these tests are coming in like this. What's the story behind it? Let me go do a deep imagining to access my subconscious to actually feel the pain that's underneath that fear so I can process it. So I'm not afraid of it anymore. So my nervous system isn't afraid of it anymore. And then, okay, get clarity. Like what actions do I need to take? What expanders do I need to find so I can live in that authenticity, so I can understand my truth, so I can understand what it feels like to be safe within my body, not needing any external things, and then make a decision from like what is on my soul, what's like pulling me forward from my soul versus all the input I'm getting, what I think the smartest or wisest thing for me to do based on the evidence I see in front of me. Right now, more than ever, people are being asked to take that leap of faith on themselves, take that leap of faith on their intuition, on their gifts, on their creativity, on all of those things. And that's not to say, and this is where I get caught up. I do think there is such merit in studying and becoming like a master in something and learning something, but there is a difference between learning it. And I'm very much learning this, but there's a difference between learning it and giving it power over you. You can take it in and be like, okay, cool. How can I apply that to my own gifts or my own thumbprint or my own authenticity? And where am I letting it become like the rule that I like live under of restriction in some ways. And the other way I'm seeing this play out for a lot of people is their ego of protector parts, keeping them small. I put something out about visibility, just seeding like, because that seems to be a big theme for people right now, whether it's visibility in their career as a public image, putting their art out into the world, pitching at their work, being seen in their friend groups, whatever that is. It's like, okay, if I'm clear on my authenticity alone in my cocoon, how do I bring that authenticity and not have my nervous system shut down outside of that? Like when I'm in public and doing all of these things or online for so many people. and a lot of people wrote into me this week they're like my inner critic is picking me apart right now it's like oh you should have done that why didn't you do this blah blah blah blah blah don't put anything out until it's perfect don't you know like just going crazy and I think we need to start reframing that as like okay that's that old ego protector part that wants you to not face rejection that doesn't want anyone to have like a leg up on you or for you to get blindsided by a hater comment. It's trying to keep you small. And can we see it for what it is, attuned to it with the TBM tool so it can like calm down a little bit, but then still root back down to that authentic part and say like, okay, I see you inner critic and we're moving this way anyways. I love that. I think that's so valuable for so many people to hear. And I think that because we are all so intuitive and psychic. Many of us in this moment maybe don't know, if you haven't been tracking all of this, that big change is coming, but they can feel it, right? We all can feel it. We are animals. We are intuitive. And even if our brain and all the programming we've had throughout the years in order to not tune into it, there's this micro anxiety, acute anxiety in us right now that things are different or should I be worried? It's that animal behavior of staying safe. And so that's why I'm glad we're having this episode to kind of name that for people who haven't been tracking this, who have no idea about that, but they have that awareness. And I guess the biggest message I wanna say is it's all gonna be all right. More so, it's gonna be better on the other side for each of us individually, because where the era we're moving into, it's where we're actually going to have fulfillment because we're so ourselves, doing the things that bring us so much joy, the essence we came on the planet to be. And I know that because there's going to be no way to hide from that. The universe is going to take everything out of our lives that isn't that. And that sounds really scary to hear someone say that, but it's also the same as like in The Wizard of Oz, you open up the curtain and it's just this little man in the back who can finally be himself, right? And not only can he be himself, moving out of that analogy, be rewarded for being yourself in the ways that your essence actually wants to be rewarded, not in the old paradigm ways that we're told you're valuable if you're rewarded, if you have a big following, if you have an empire, if you have the blah, blah, blah. That's it's gone. It's leaving very soon, very quickly. so on the other side of all of this will actually be like a deeper exhale when things settle in our lives and in the world there's so much to say on this but we'll continually talk about this as as new layers peel off for people who i i feel like everyone listening probably has heard of the fire horse and it's interesting because i feel like this year in particular is the loudest i've ever heard people talk about chinese astrology and this shift and i think it's because we feel into those energetic so much like last year being the snake the stripping the shedding and this year being the fire horse some of the elements with that the horse is freedom movement charisma independence mixed with fire visibility passion speed volatility this year is the wildfire acceleration radical independence charisma and rebellion breaking from constraints movement that can't be contained, bold, expressive, unwilling to live small. I think what's interesting in this shift, and this is probably what people are feeling into too, is that they kind of have a vision of that next piece and they feel into it. They know that change is coming, but those old ego selves that have been keeping them small and keeping them from action specifically, that's another huge theme I've been hearing from the community is like, I don't know why I can't get myself to do X. I don't know why I'm having such a hard time. They're finally clear on the thing that they're like, this is my authentic thing. Like I've found it. I know it. I want to be a florist or I want to be a writer. I want to do whatever their thing is. They've like figured it out. And then they're like, I can't get myself to do it. And I do think the fire horse energy will come in and just be like, I'm going to strip every ego excuse you have for this until you realize there's nothing left until you do this. Agreed. Yeah, I think that's going to be a big part. And I think that there's this other element that I don't see a lot of people talking about when it comes to this energy, but horses are so, they're so sensitive. Their nervous systems are so sensitive. They're so, so psychic and have such a deep sensitivity that way, that I also think people are going to have to reckon this year with how they have not been listening to their bodies, their nervous system, their true communication through their psychicness. And I think that's going to be a big communication dialogue that they haven't had to experience before, where it'll be burnout if they're just doing the thing and going after the thing once they get that pep and that step. And I do think that there's another thing to talk about in this energy. Again, not somebody who's an expert in this, but just sort of what I'm deducing from the energy I'm feeling into is it's a year of like putting the things out there, but really putting the authentic things out there, not the volatility of just doing things to do things. right? I think of people I've known in this community who just want to be seen so badly. And so they're just creating content, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I think that's going to be burnout. It's going to die. And the quietness of, because again, like we talked about at the top of the episode, people are just going to become very disinterested in that. Whereas when somebody is really aligning to what their thing is and understanding it and just putting that energy out there. A great example of this, Jessica, you were doing a lot of research before the new year and you're like, rather than putting out any of the ideas coming, let's actually stick with three. And if it doesn't feed those three things, that is fire horse energy. You need to stay rooted and anchored in those one thing, those two things, those three things. And if it's not feeding that, the rest has to go. I think that's a really big thing people aren't talking about in this. And I think that aligns deeply as well with the new paradigm. A lot of the astrology we're seeing come down the pipeline that rather than just waking up and trying the thing and doing the thing and dating the person and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever this stuff is this year, I think there's going to be a little bit of a reckoning, a little bit of a sobering effect. And I think the biggest gift we give people at TBM a lot of the time is some foreshadowing. We did that at the top of the year last year. The universe was telling me this is the year of stripping. We came on, did a live channeling, gave you guys that, talked about it all year. And so help me when we look back at that year, which did really align, obviously, with the Chinese astrology of that, the snake, it was the year of stripping. So if you can hear what we're really saying in this episode at the top of the year, I think it can really serve you. The other thing I want to give permission to people on, just knowing how stagnant some people may be and taking those actions towards themselves, is for someone who has been putting things out, their medicine, their next step is going to be restraint to their authenticity. for someone who hasn't been putting anything out, just get comfortable getting in the arena. And even if in a month, two months, three months, you're like, okay, I tried all the things that didn't really work, but at least I'm like comfortable trying on these things. At least I expanded to stepping into the arena. Then you can pare back to that restraint, but don't let getting the perfected, authentic expression stop you from taking any action. Because I do think that that stops a lot of people where they're like, oh, fuck, is this from ego? Like, I don't want to do it from ego. Like how do, and then they just don't do anything. You are better off going out, doing it from ego, trying it out, and then having that check-in, doing the monthly check-in, seeing what's testing you, what's triggering you, and then go through whatever you're doing and say, is this authentic? Go back through the authentic code and refine, refine, refine. But if you're not doing anything and you're refining before you start, you're almost like clipping yourself off before you can get going. You have to be willing to just stop the analysis paralysis and go. And I think this fire horse energy will help that. this year i am all about the small habits the small wins that i can make on a regular basis consistently that will transform my year over time and one of those spaces that i'm looking at is what i'm snacking on i am a huge tortilla chip fan it is one of my most favorite not guilty pleasures. But so many brands out there use seed oils or processed oils that can make you feel bloated, sluggish, break your skin out. And so I have been on the hunt for the cleanest possible tortilla chip and recently got hooked on masa chips. They are made with just three ingredients, organic, nish tamaleas, corn, sea salt, and a hundred percent grass fed beef tallow. No seed oils, no fillers, no mystery chemicals that you can't pronounce, just real food. And it makes such a difference. After eating the masa chips, I have no bloating. I don't feel sluggish. I have full energy. And I also just enjoyed one of my favorite new snacks. 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And when we say authenticity, it's really, it's like unapologetically knowing yourself and being detached at the same time. You're doing it, but it's from that flow state. It's from the, I'm not trying to control. I'm not expecting an outcome. Sure. I think good outcomes may come, but I'm not attached to any of them. I'm doing it because it's pure channeling. It's pure joy. It's just coming through me. People who are taking action on things like that, that's what's going to take off fire horse because they're melting like butter into the saddle. Yeah, such deep alignment. And so just to put into context, like what Jessica was saying too, with a TBM teaching is the opposite is always the medicine. And I do think that this year there is going to be a lot of messiness because we're between realities really, between era shifts. And I think like at the top of the episode when I say, I just feel like I'm flowing through. It is that melting like butter because I'm not attached to anything right now. I don't have one attached goal this year. My manifestation list really is like, there are things I want to learn and do. It's actually one of the first years I don't have like, make this amount of money, do that, you know, this house. And well, it's like this year is, and I think that's something we definitely talk about a lot in that New York stop is all about like really listening to the messages of interest I've had and now taking this year to truly learn them which for example is like beekeeping I want to take harp lessons I want to learn to spin this year mine are different than everybody else's but that's how we get into understanding like our own gifts. And we talk about that a lot in that New York stop and how those gifts in the next so many years are going to actually be the things that bring you the most reward and magnetism. Okay, Lacey, I have to ask you questions now because I feel like I have so many, because you are living in that authenticity on so many levels, help expand, help vision hold for people. Because I think there's so much power in what you're saying with, yes, you could put, I want to make X more dollars this year so I can buy this authentic thing or whatever, but you're not. And what restraint and what does that feel like to say, I witnessed maybe a part of me or an old part of me that would have feared and put that on there, but I'm not. Explain the energy and how you're moving through it, or was it just kind of a natural progression to get there? I think the biggest thing, and I'm wondering if it's my Capricorn moon or many of my planets in Scorpio, like all the big planets, like Saturn and all that fun stuff. I've always really heeded advice always. And so like, I don't know if anybody ever remembers that commencement speech that Baz, is that? Yes. And if you fucking listen to that thing back, solid, most of it's really solid. And I remember being like, check, check, check, got it. So I'm somebody who like when I really and I have the gift of when I hear it from a source I really trust, I just I do it. And so I think it was all of our all of our talking with Jenna, the channeling I was receiving as we were on stage with Jenna during that time that I went, got it. Cool. And what I mean by that, when you guys do listen to we're putting that out inside of the pathway, that speaking stop in New York where we really go through all of this, I was like, oh, well, this is going to be the way to optimize the next so many years. And how refreshing is this? And I've always been good at that. I think a lot of my trajectory shows that. What I mean by that is like when I go, okay, so this is what the universe is saying about the new paradigm. Been hearing about that for a long time through Jenna, but it really clicked in last year. got it. So if I follow this, if I'm one of the early adapters of this, like as I know Jenna is and many people, as I did through the Piscean Age and really prospered, I will really prosper through the new paradigm, you know, as we move into that individual era. And I really trust it because I trust it because so much of the channeling I receive from the universe aligns with everything that we've been hearing from Jenna that Ra, I think that's his name, the founder of human design channeled for this era. And okay, so there's that piece, right? Like on tour and all a lot of last year, but really on tour, it clicked and I've been feeling it psychically. So Jenna and I had a real rapport like around the holidays where I was like whoa it was the cancer full moon the January one it just switched that the switch has happened it's here and Jenna was like I felt it too oh my like we can feel it and so you know and this isn't probably super helpful for somebody who's entry level into this work or entry level into spirituality or doesn't have a huge trust muscle that's a concept we talk about a lot in this manifestation work trust muscle meaning the more and the bigger things you manifest through this process the stronger you just really trust this process and you can take way bigger swings way bigger jumping off cliffs and the magic darks become like so fun for us which is that period of time when you're first beginning this work the universe tests you all the way it's going to you've passed them all and then all of a sudden it's crickets like you were so close to your manifestation it's that ultimate last trust the universe is saying, do you trust me implicitly? Or are you going to go back to that low self-worth behavior? So my trust muscle is so strong. And so, yeah, once that hit, it was kind of like I surrendered, really surrendered. And what I mean by that is I went, okay, I'm not sitting here calling in these lofty things I used to call in anymore because they're all coming, not in the way that they used to. So like what you were talking about your example at the top of the episode was if I learn all of the formula essentially like in content social media blah blah blah then I know what to do but I know it's changing. Well that's the exact similar thing that's happened here where it's like I used to do in the old paradigm all of the things I was mastered in it and I manifested in those ways. But fascinatingly enough, I believe that the new paradigm is calling on us to do this work in a much deeper level, not meaning you have to dig deeper, in a much more truthful way. It's all the same tools still apply. And I believe that this had to happen over time and seasons change in life. But when you thought you were really authentic, when I thought I was really authentic a year ago, the level of authenticity I'm at now is exponentially greater. And so I'm going to loop that back that in between this space, all that hustle, mastering that energy, mastering all the things, and now the foreshadowing of knowing what the new mastery is, which is honestly a lot less exhausting once we can all just trust it, and anchor so much deeper into our authenticity, I was like, okay, no, I can just give the reins over and just do the things that bring me an obscene amount of joy and authenticity within constraints. Like I still have to do working things, you know what I mean? But all of my free time is, there's no hustle anymore. There's none of that. And in fact, I was looking at, if you like really scroll at the bottom of Tubi Magnetic's feed as my old personal feed. And it was like, hmm, what was I doing before I hustled? Gardening, knitting, cooking. It was all the shit I really am interested in. That's not everybody's example. Everybody has their own example of like, what were you doing in your private time that like didn't have to have any type of reward around it? your deepest interest that's all I have I'm sinking into at this moment so it really is what do I want right now I want to work with my fiber animals and learn to spin I'm gardening I'm doing all the things that like I've been wanting to play an instrument forever it's like the harp it's all the shit that's so authentic to me and not one thing is crossing in my mind that's like any external hustle or validation. And I know through doing this and the TBM tools, being an early adapter will soar very quickly. And in fact, it already is. That's a really long tangent. No, but it's really good because there's a couple of things that I noticed too, where I'm like, okay, like clocking, taking notes, the confidence, but also the ability to step through the fear to do something different to say, and you're Aquarius, like you're used to always beating to your own drum. Like that's not a problem for you, but for other people having that, this is what I'm seeing the world doing that it's telling me I need to do for success, but this is what's on my heart to do. And I'm betting actually on myself. And I'm going to align with this more than I'm going to align with the evidence that I've seen in prior situations. So there's almost like a leap of faith in yourself, in your gifts, in your interest, in the things on your heart. But then on top of that, it's that trust muscle. It's having done it like this so many times where you're like, I know when I come from this place, it always opens me up into a new level. And so for TBMers who have been doing this a while, for people who are brand new, like your focus should be creating that trust muscle with yourself. That when you take bets on yourself, when you try things, when you can discern between your truth and your programming, when you can discern between your ego self that wants to be attached and get needs met that weren't met in childhood versus what is truly on your heart and what is your passion. And if nobody saw it, if nobody interacted, if you got no external validation for it, what would you be doing? What are those things that you would spend your time on? Like that is the bet that it's asking you to make on yourself now. And the more that we can do that now, the more when the outside reflects it, you're going to be in such a better situation. But with the caveat, you're not doing all of this to future proof yourself. There's no attachment to like, I'm going to do this because then I'll be safe and secure in the future. You're like, oh, this just feels correct for me. Like I felt the channeling. I learned the lesson. This just feels right. I just have a feeling that this will all take care of itself. I don't need to stress over it, but there is no dependence on this bet on myself will secure me in the future. It's not coming from that energy at all. And that is where like, I keep telling people that's gone and it's going to take a lot of us a long time to really truly understand that lesson and I want that to be a big takeaway for people the dog paddling is over it's going to get nowhere it didn't get very far from many in the past but it's gone and so an example of that is like if I dress in this way in this way in this way, I'll secure this date or job or blah. It's gone. Nobody's interested anymore. And if it still seems like they are, it's just because the universe hasn't rocked them yet. It's all going to be gone in the next two years. You can take your time and adopt it slowly, but we're headed in that direction. The old systems in politics and corporation, it's going to drastically change. We're seeing that already in real time and it's being packaged in certain ways, but you'll see like the crumblings happening, already happening. And when I'm with like my mom or the really deep gifted people, we're like, whoa, there's a big negotiation and power right now of darkness and light, good and evil. And it's so interesting, like before the Epstein emails were even announced that I was unaware that they were going to be released. And I kept having these dreams of, yeah, layers of stuff happening. And I was like, wow, there's a, and people can feel this. If you're very psychic, you've been having these dreams at night. You've been having this energy around where you're like, wow, I'm having to do a lot of extra protection right now. A lot of anchoring right now, because what's, in my opinion, what's happening is the systems that allowed a lot of that stuff and that stuff's been going on since the beginning of time. It's horrific. It's awful. Like it's human behavior since the beginning of time. It so so so horrific But because we moving into this era that a lot of that scaffolding coming down You seeing we feeling the deeply in tune deeply psychic is feeling that grasp of control still because those systems are losing that control. And we talked about it a little bit, but I think that is part of the anchoring of like exactly what you're talking about. Like as the darkness comes up in such a way and in such an intensity and ferocity in so many people's faces, so prevalent, like unthinkable things happening in the world, being so mindful that you're not then co-creating from that energy of fear, from that energy, from that darkness, not stepping into that. And not to be in denial of what's happening by any means, but figuring out a new way to metabolize and then hold your light, hold your humanity, hold your love within yourself for others, rooting yourself into safety, rooting yourself into protection. Yeah, there's so many things to say on this, but I think the channeling is coming through for you is exactly this piece. Well, yeah. So for anybody who's sitting here and they've been able to track this episode, or if you're like, you're like, wow, I have no idea what these people are talking about. And it off by now, that's great too, because you'll come back to it in about seven months. We'll see you in a year. I know what they were talking about now. If there was one practice that I could recommend to you that has transformed my life more than anything else, it has been the 2B Magnetic work. Obviously, I may be biased because I am the chief content officer. I'm the host of the podcast. I develop all the workshops with the brand, but it is also the tool that has helped my life the most. when I am in a season of doubt, when I'm in a season of fear or tests or triggers, when I am trying to get clarity on my next chapter, when I'm trying to design a life for my future that I want to be really deeply connected to my soul, to my potential, to my purpose, to my ambition. TBM houses all the tools and workshops that you need to connect deeper to yourself and not let your past patterning, your past programming, your limiting beliefs run the show anymore. Because every time I get tripped up on one of those things, it is always younger versions of myself coming in, taking the driver's seat and running rampant. And until I can connect with them through the TBM work and really learn to process it in a new way and recontextualize the things, that is when my life actually shifts and I reprogram my neural pathways to be in alignment with what I truly want, which is how you manifest. If you are interested in joining the pathway, we have a special offer for our podcast guests where you can get the first month for $20 and then join our annual membership. You can use this work through our various workshops that we teach you how to manifest. We go through an inner child program. There's a shadow program, one for rut, rock bottom, money, love, you name it. Or you can use it as a daily tool to reprogram in the moment issues as they come up to reset your nervous system, give you high self-worth, reconnect with your magnetic self, or talk to your inner child part that may be in the way and running the show and self-sabotaging. So if you're getting the ping to join TBM, now's the time and you can use code EXPANDED for $20 off your first month to join the pathway. I've been getting a ton of channeling from the universe about a really specific energy that's going to help anchor many of us as the wheels fall off. And I personally have been engaging in that energy. And it's so loud from the universe, right before I'm going to sleep, right when I dip into my meditation, right before a DI, the universe is like the way that it'll communicate these things to me as it'll flash a feeling. And that's the only way I can put it, because I don't see anything. But it's like, I flash a feeling in front of my sort of third eye while I'm in the depths of those things or before I'm falling asleep. And it's the same messages over and over. So the universe before bed in meditation has been like communicating that I need to, and I haven't fully synthesized how to say this yet, but those who get it will get it. And it's like, you need to tell your community about, you need to teach this community of TBM about this, it keeps telling me grandparent energy. That is going, so if you don't take anything else away today, and not all of us had a proper example of this, but it's telling me this because I have an example of this. And so it's trying to show me what that means. And so during this oscillation between eras, profound fucking historical new changes that are going to happen astrologically in this month alone. And the fire horse, it's saying grandparent energy and what it means by that. So when it's showing me grandparent energy, it's showing me the era of life when people are no longer in their adolescent phase, right? Which is what we've been as an era. It's what we've been in social media. It's what we've been in building empires. It's just this young rattlesnake energy that's like, I've got to do this. Got it. It's very, very adolescent. And often when you think of like the coastal grandmother who's in her cottage and she's growing her herbs. She's taking care of her family. She's with her beautiful friends at tea time or whatever. Everybody has culturally different versions of grandmother, grandfather energy. And what it's getting at is those people or that era, that age in life, not everyone, but if we're going through this sort of poster version of it, they are now only doing things that are aligned for them. They are only in company that's in resonance with their true authenticity at this point. They are doing activities that are so authentic and independent to them. You think of what the fuck was your grandpa and grandma up to? That's because that's what they cared about at that point. And it's what meant something to them at that point. And it's all they had energy for. And then there's this deeper level of anchored, a lot of warmth in your life, in your house, in your perception of self, taking care of self, a lot of nervous system, eating in ways that support you. So I'm just gonna lay that out there and you can probably digest this more and Jessica have something to say about it, but that grandparent energy is not hustling. It's not dog paddling. It is in an era of life that is matured and authentic and only doing things in residence and alignment with people in residence or in alignment like truer community and having this nurturing component to it. Oh my God. So good. I have so many thoughts, but the first thing that came up was like the wise elder, the reverence that we used to have for the wise elder in the community who has seen the shit, who's lived through the generations, who understands the chapters of going through adolescence, who understands why they're going through all of these phases and pieces. But then, yeah, exactly. Like the visual you painted, Lacey, is perfect because it's like, what do they give a fuck about at that chapter in their life? They're not trying to impress their friends. They're not trying to build these huge things. They're like, well, let's ride it out. Let's enjoy the next chapter of our life. Like, what do we, we don't even have the energy to do all the things we used to do. I can't take brain power to care about those things anymore. It just isn't worth it. I'm not willing to give up my energy to worry about those things. What's also fascinating, and this is why I see such a dichotomy right now, I mean, amongst other things, but the people who are so to that energy is because that energy so closely mirrors the season before death. Yes. And they are running away from death by busying, by filling, by succeeding. And as a community, it terrifies us to move towards death. Yes. And we are all going to go through the ego death. Yes. All the fuss are headed there. That's a really incredible observation. Absolutely. I mean, wow. Yeah. This is big stuff, guys. Yeah. This is huge. Let's give a teeny digestion for people really quickly because this was a lofty conversation, not for people who are like on this wavelength and happened for a long time. But if we were to just give like a teeny little action takeaway closure, Jessica, you're the best at this. That's like your greatest gift in the world. So the first thing I want to say is no matter where you're at on this pendulum of this shifting change, the opposite is the medicine. So if you are not taking that action, or if you're taking so much action to prove your worth, opposite is the medicine. And work with the fire horse energy to get some momentum under you. But momentum doesn't mean just acting for acting's sake. it's momentum in the directions of the very clear things that connect to your authentic code so if you haven't done authentic code exercise highly recommend doing that that's such a north star if you listen to the virtual speaking tour and do that purpose and soul's essence di that's going to be a north star that is where you're starting to see like oh this is my truth and anyone who's been with us through the return to magic challenge, they will get this is the root of my soul. And this is really what's being asked to come of me. So I think for anyone out there listening, just start to understand the two energies, understand your old paradigm energy, how you showed up, ways you played small, limiting beliefs you had, how you tried to prove yourself and understand your authentic energy on a whole new level. Even if you've been with us forever, There is another layer of authenticity that wants to come through now. Like start to paint the picture of that. And then in your day-to-day, start to drop this off and start to step into this more. Little actions, big actions, your tests and triggers will be at the crossroads between those two things again and again. And use the tools. Synthesize like, okay, what were all the tests? what is the through line here that I'm afraid of giving up? What do I think I'm giving up? Can I sit with the fear, metabolize it so I can actually say like, okay, I can finally make the new decision. I can finally step towards this authenticity. Like that authentic archetype of yourself, your future self, higher self, whatever you want to call it. Like that's what we're marching towards. We need everyone to be in that because that's going to shift the course of humanity that's going to bring that light back in. So yeah, just have those two parts, understand them deeply, which one fits in which category and start moving in the direction of that authentic one. Agreed. And I love that archetype of the wise elder to help just root you and ground you in something you may have some familiarity with. And the last thing that I will say, if you are spinning out listening to this episode and being like, oh, none of this fully, I don't know how this applies to my life right now. Don't worry, let it go. You've heard the information. The universe is going to make that abundantly clear in moments of this year and come back to this episode. And I would say, Jessica, arguably, when stuff like that happens, which could be forms of rock bottoms or stripping. I think that authenticity challenge is so clutch for this energy. So clutch. A hundred percent, especially those first three weeks and even the last three weeks too. But just to get that picture, that sense, like who are you right now? What are all the parts of self? What are all the parts of self that are not you, that you've been masquerading as around life, you know, that you're like, oh my God, this whole time I thought I was this and I'm not. And I know we say this so much, but I find new versions of that every single year, every single month I find new. I'm like, oh, okay. That's actually not me. I just, just recognized. And you step in every season. And so in this season, that's going to get really loud. So I think, yeah, that's an amazing place to start. agreed well thank you lacy we are off to the horse races and it can be so pleasant too like i'm feeling great i've been feeling great for the last month two months and i'm just like well we'll see what comes down the pipeline i'm in full surrender you are our expander leading the charge as we are all navigating it thank you thanks guys Thank you.