The Shotgun Start

Fitzpatrick bros take New Orleans, Nelly Korda’s dominant 3rd major, and Garage Sale tales

63 min
Apr 27, 2026about 1 month ago
Listen to Episode
Summary

The Shotgun Start hosts discuss the Fitzpatrick brothers' team event victory at the Zurich Classic in New Orleans, Nelly Korda's dominant third major championship win, and share personal anecdotes about hosting a garage sale. The episode covers PGA Tour exemptions, women's golf coverage challenges, and Champions Tour highlights.

Insights
  • Team event formats can generate compelling narratives but lack structural integration into the tour calendar, creating questions about player qualification and exemption legitimacy
  • Exemption structures for team event winners create competitive advantages that may not reflect individual merit, particularly when paired with signature event access
  • Women's golf coverage fragmentation across multiple platforms (NBC, Peacock) and scheduling conflicts with signature events undermine audience building despite having marquee talent
  • The LPGA's new championship venue strategy requires multi-year commitment and on-site experience to build tradition and fan engagement comparable to established majors
  • Champions Tour broadcasts deliver authentic, unfiltered commentary that resonates with audiences seeking genuine personality over polished production
Trends
Scandinavian and continental European players creating competitive waves on PGA and DP World Tours, inspired by early success storiesTeam golf formats struggling to justify calendar placement without clear competitive structure or series integrationLPGA major championships facing attendance and ratings challenges despite world-class talent, suggesting disconnect between fan interest and event positioningExemption inflation across signature events creating scheduling conflicts that disadvantage traditional tournaments and weaken field qualityStreaming platform exclusivity (Peacock) fragmenting sports viewership and potentially limiting audience reach for women's golfChampions Tour gaining audience appeal through authentic, unscripted commentary contrasting with polished mainstream broadcastsPGA Tour captaincy selections trending toward safe, experienced hires rather than innovative leadership approachesMemorial Park as permanent LPGA major venue positioning public golf accessibility as competitive advantage for fan engagement
Topics
Zurich Classic team event format and competitive legitimacyPGA Tour exemption structures and signature event accessFitzpatrick brothers' victory narrative and family golf legacyNelly Korda's dominant major championship performanceLPGA coverage fragmentation across NBC and PeacockWomen's golf attendance and ratings challengesChevron Championship venue permanence and tradition buildingScandinavian player pipeline and international competitivenessPGA Tour Ryder Cup captaincy selection processChampions Tour broadcast authenticity and commentary styleGolf Galaxy club fitting and equipment optimizationOklahoma State golf program representation and media coverageGarage sale economics and consumer behaviorDP World Tour international tournament schedulingAlternate shot format pace of play and rules
Companies
PGA Tour
Primary focus of discussion regarding tournament scheduling, exemptions, signature events, and competitive structure
LPGA
Women's golf tour discussed regarding Nelly Korda's major championship, coverage challenges, and venue strategy
DP World Tour
European tour mentioned for Alex Fitzpatrick's qualification path and international tournament results
NBC Sports
Broadcast partner criticized for delayed coverage start times and fragmented LPGA major championship scheduling
Peacock
Streaming platform exclusive coverage of Chevron Championship pool jump tradition, fragmenting audience access
Golf Channel
Broadcast outlet for Champions Tour tape-delayed coverage featuring Mitsubishi Electric Championship
Chevron
Title sponsor of LPGA major championship at Memorial Park, Houston
Masters Tournament
Referenced as example of tradition-building and venue importance for major championship prestige
Ryder Cup
Discussed regarding Jim Furick's captaincy selection and US team competitive challenges
TGL
Golf entertainment format mentioned regarding team event format and broadcast presentation challenges
People
Matt Fitzpatrick
Won Zurich Classic team event with brother Alex, hit crucial bunker shot on 18th hole
Alex Fitzpatrick
Won Zurich Classic with brother Matt, received controversial signature event exemptions and PGA Tour card
Nelly Korda
Won Chevron Championship for second time in three years, returned to world number one ranking
Brendan
Hosted podcast episode, discussed garage sale experience and golf tournament analysis
Andy
Celebrated 40th birthday during episode, discussed Fitzpatrick victory and women's golf coverage
PJ
Provided Champions Tour coverage analysis and Golf Galaxy sponsor segment
Jim Furick
Selected as 2025 Ryder Cup captain, discussed as uninspiring but safe choice
Luke Donald
Referenced as successful opposing Ryder Cup captain, contrast to US team challenges
Gino Wijnaldum
Lost world number one ranking to Nelly Korda after Chevron Championship
Victor Hovland
Oklahoma State player omitted from graphics despite being top-ranked team member
Matthew Wolff
Oklahoma State player omitted from tournament graphics despite being team leader
Retief Goosen
Won Mitsubishi Electric Championship at TPC Sugarloaf on Champions Tour
Zach Johnson
Competed in Champions Tour event, finished second to Retief Goosen
Craig Kessler
Discussed as facing difficult leadership challenges regarding women's golf fan engagement and coverage
Joseph
Expressed frustration with Davis Thompson's performance and tournament quality
Soren Kelsen
Referenced as inspiration for wave of Danish professional golfers entering tour
LeBron James
Tweeted support for Nelly Korda's Chevron Championship victory
Quotes
"Nothing prepares you for a weekend garage sale. I mean, that's just not a place I could envision myself being."
BrendanEarly in episode
"Playing with a big lead is really hard because it's you're not used to it. You're kind of used to playing in the way of like, OK, I have to play well."
Andy (discussing Nelly Korda)Women's golf segment
"Two things can be true because I think like social media has made this a do. It's either people are like, Oh, this is such a cool story. The brothers winning together. And then there's the other side of the coin of this is such bullshit."
AndyFitzpatrick discussion
"Cooler than the hallway at the Sawgrass Marriott this morning."
Paul A. Singer (Champions Tour broadcast)Champions Tour segment
"I feel like we're heading to a world where these exemptions don't exist anymore. I just don't think he should get a two year exemption and like be vaulted to this top list of exemption categories."
AndyFitzpatrick exemption discussion
Full Transcript
Now the shotgun starting golf is full of mathematics. There's a lot of setup work that we have to do in order to make a tournament work. So I'm going to demonstrate to you just exactly how we do a shotgun start here. And here we go. Alright, alright, alright. Gentlemen! Start your engine! Greetings and welcome to a Monday edition of the Shotgun Start. It is April 27th. Andy, how we doing? Brendan! I'm doing alright. I gotta say I'm a little worse for the wear today. What are you worse for the wear? Just celebrating big weekend out on the town. What are you worse for the wear from? The wife and I took a full swing on Saturday night and spent the rest of my weekend administering a garage sale. So, to tell you what, nothing prepares you for a weekend garage sale. I mean, that's just not a place I could envision myself being. Socializing. The people who come to garage sales, I mean no offense if you're a listener and you go to garage sales, I just don't think you're shuffling and working with a full deck. There are a lot of nice people that came to the garage sale. I would say they weren't nice. I just said, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, the thing that's amazing is we had some people that came. I would say they made like six or seven visits to the garage sale over two days. They just kept coming back. Looping around, yeah. And it's like, I don't know what they're doing. Are they keeping an eye out on one thing? Seeing if it goes. Are you marking stuff down as the hours wind down? How does that work? Yeah, this afternoon we got pretty desperate. I mean, we were... I mean, the thing though is, I mean, we just have like a bunch of crap that's just sitting out there with a free sign on it now. Yeah, they know. I mean, they know you are ready to just, you're trying to just put this on the curb whether you, at the end of the day, whether you want to or not. So, they could just wait you out. There's a guy down the street that always, that like has 20 garage sales a year. Oh my God. It's insane. No. We've talked about it a lot, but we bought a planter from him a couple of years ago for $40. And sure enough, the planter went into our garage sale. Yeah. And my wife's like, what are we listening for? I'm like $40. Yeah. Okay. So anyways, this guy, the guy showed up like late yesterday. Oh no. And then we're like, he's going to come back and he's totally, you know, get the goods. And I said, we're not selling that thing to the planter to him for less than $40 out of principle. So today, a woman offered $24 for it. And I was like, done. Done. No. I'm just taking it. That's good. It cannot be here when this guy comes back this afternoon. God. That's good. I thought he was going to get it for last, then put it out as next of one of his 20 garage sales and just keep the jig running. That's amazing. You know what he asked for? My wife is a very creative person. Yeah. Yeah. She made these great colorful signs, put them all over town. And he came by and he asked if she could, if he could take the signs once the sales over. Oh my God. It's like, it's a full time garage salesman. Yeah. This guy says all over it. Taking her signs, but they say the date on it. I don't, I don't understand what he's going to do with the date and the time, but he's taking the signs. Maybe he's using it. He's going to put it in his lab and use it as, as research. That's interesting. I don't know why you need signs. You could just crumpled granola, made a trail of granola leading to the front of the house all around town. Just spread it around. I don't know. I don't think, I don't think a lot of our, our patrons were the, were the granola lovers that you can buy. You know. Well, all right. That sounds, I've, I've, you know, we got through it. I don't know if I said probably ridiculously low sum of money for the amount of work that goes into it. You get like a 12 pack of Coke at the end of the day with these things. And you spent your whole day tagging along and moving shit around in the driveway. Moving to shit down, moving it back up. And then the next morning after, I mean, we earned our drinks last night. Okay. Well, that's good. You took a real swing. I didn't know if you were, you were worse for the wear from garage sale and, but sounds like combo combination of everything. This morning was rough when I was, when I was getting the stuff back down. Yeah. Just sitting out there. That's good. That's good. I don't know if I could do the socialize. That would be the hardest. I think you should have a garage sale. No. It's worth it for the social experiment. They do like this community yard sale every year. Like everyone in the, in the whole, our neighborhood, you know, you're supposed to, and then we never do it. Lord knows we have so much shit we need to get rid of, but I'd rather just throw it out or put it on the curb and grab it and then have to do the sale, have to organize it and get out there. But maybe that's just us being, being lazy or not enterprising enough. But Hey, we are, we, what's upon a time to your great angst and agitation. We were a birthday podcast and we would wish, wish people a happy birthday every now and then. If you wrote in nicely and you asked for your husband or significant other, you know, and you were very pissed off about this so much so that one of our friends of the program offered to sponsor a segment where we just wished a happy birthday to people. Steve Smith of Smith, Deborah Wines way back in the day. The original listeners will remember that. We got a sponsorship deal out of that. Your agitation was just saying happy birthday to various people. It's so bad. So we're going to be a birthday podcast here for half a second and your, your turn 40 on Monday, the 27th. So happy birthday to you. Thank you. It's been a fruitful decade that the, the fried egg turned 10 in December of the land of last year. Is it? So what do they say about your 30s? I forget the saying pursue your, pursue your passions or find stability. I don't know if you, you definitely pursued your passion and eventually found stability. I think so. I don't have a good one. I'm a good one. Jeff Putter like you. Good one. Good 10 years for you. Good 10 year run for you. I mean, I don't remember much. I don't, you know, they feel like I just, you know, yeah, it's been, it's been a good 10 years. Yeah. I'm ready to write 40s. There you go. You're good. You're ready to rock. So happy birthday. I figured I would surprise you on that one. Thank you for your earnest birthday wish. It is earnest. It is earnest. I think you're insane for doing garage sale, but you know, I'm, I'm happier. It's the dream 40th birthday weekend. You have a garage. Yeah. Seriously. Seriously. A lot of people go to, you know, Vegas or, you know, Tropical Island. Well, you can do that. We had a garage sale. June or something. May you never have to celebrate on your birthday, you know, but yeah. This is what we do with Father's Day too. It's never on, on the, on the Father's Day. Cause you're at Chinacoc or wherever you are. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, happy birthday. We're very, very happy for you breaking into a new decade. Um, happy for the Fitzpatrick brothers too. How about that family? Special moment. Special moment. Um, they get it done wobbly to say the least. I mean, I was watching Saturday. I was like, this is over and done with, of course, alt shot can be a, a turbulent format. Um, where you can, you know, it's a, you had kind of have to grind out a number. Although the Norwegians posted a, a 65 with three Eagles and alt shot is kind of insane. The two Christophers, three Eagles, three Eagles and alt shot is madness. Uh, but the Fitzsies were slow and not great, but they got across the line. Thanks to a fabulous, fabulous bunker shot by Matt Fitzpatrick, who was, I would say the lesser of the Fitzpatrick's for much of the day, but gets it, gets an incredible bunker shot at that 18th hole, which we've seen a lot of fireworks there. Josh Carpenter had a tweet tonight of sports business journal about like a lot of, you know, agitation. I should have had it up if I was a good pocket. A lot of agitation and criticism about this. A lot of comments all week about the field tournament should be canceled, et cetera. But man, that was fun. I guess my retort was what was fun. The one shot, like the, what the preceding 72 hours, I don't know that shot was super cool and sick. And the story of the brothers doing it together was awesome. That's great. I don't know. It still wasn't that great a tournament, but, uh, it was an awesome, awesome finish. If that redeems it, then I've not hear the disabuse you of that notion per se. Um, I loved it. As soon as he hit it, Dottie's like, all ball got to spin all ball got to spin them. Boom. It just stops on a dime and then in Matt or Alex just has to tap at it. I'm going to go more with, uh, with Josh here. I cut, I cut the closing stretch. Look at you. I thought it was actually, I mean, I think this tournament always has a pretty good finish. It goes recently. I mean, you even go back to the Brian Stewart win. No, no, that wasn't a good in any way. No, wasn't it Monday? It might have been Tuesday morning, but, um, I, you know, Brian Stewart, two things can be true because I think like social media has made this a do. It's either people are like, Oh, this is such a cool story. The brothers winning together. And then there's the other side of the coin of this is such bullshit that he, that Alex Fitzpatrick now is like in all the signature events because he won an event with his brother, who's the number three ranked player in the world. Number one in the FedEx Cup, number one player. Number one. I was going to say that, but, but anyways, like, so there's, there's two sides to it. And like, should Alex Fitzpatrick have this lofty status on tour because he won this team competition? Maybe not, but the story of them winning this tournament together is still really cool. You know? Yeah. I, I agree. Like, should he be getting all of these things because of it? Should he get a place in the PGA because he won this event with his brother, which is a team event against like a pretty weak feel. I mean, that's a PGA issue. I mean, I got, they're about to put 20 club pros in, abandoned. They're playing that tonight. You should tell your wife, honey, for my 40th birthday, I just want to watch the second round of the PGA club pro from Bandit. It's all I want. I might be able to do that after administering a, honestly, I might be able to do that after, you know, being a, being a good sport with the garage sale. So here are the actual, the perks. PGA tour card through 28 for Alex exempt in the PGA, exempt into all the remaining SIG events, which start next week. This is insane. We have five of six, five of six weeks are SIG events. If you count the two majors, he's exempt into the players next year and exempt to the PGA. So they're on a make, um, you know, I typically would like, you know, we tend to be watch dogs on some of these things. Like the, the sort of circuitous membership of the PGA tour and the Byzantine rules and regulations. The guy playing his ass off, he was so good. It wasn't like Matt was dragging this carcass alone. He hit the shot at the end. Alex was incredible on Saturday. He just won on the DP world tour. He was probably, I think he was as good, if not better than Matt for most of Sunday. I mean, all these mules who are like going to be, well, he just beat you. Most of you were in that field. It was a mule heavy field. I don't know. I would typically be sort of have my eyebrow raised about this thing, but the guy played really, really well. He carried more than his weight. There's so many stinky exemptions into so many events. I just, you know, the guys have, he's made, become a bonafide tour pro winning on the DP world tour. And this one was seemed above board. I think some of his early exemptions when he was fresh out of wake or still at wake were a little like more suspect. It was kind of like the last name, brotherly love thing. But the guy has worked to get up to a bonafide DP world tour pro and was awesome this week going out and getting it. Yeah. And listen, he's, he probably was getting his card this year regardless from the DP world tour. He was seventh in the DP world tour standings just behind the bumblebee and in our favorite author, Dan Bradbury. I mean, the bumblebee might be coming to the tour. I would be, oh my God, imagine him just getting dropped into like the Quad Cities. No way. The bomb. No, he'll get, he'll get smushed blown away. Fly swatted the bumblebee. Yeah. He was going to get his card. I think the question is, I feel like we're heading to a world where these exemptions don't exist anymore. I just don't think he should get a two year exemption and like be vaulted to this top list of, of exemption categories where he's this winner and he gets into the signature events because he won a team event. Yeah. He did, he didn't take, there's two 57 strokes. How many of those were his, you know, like I don't have about. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the right. But again, it's, what's the most offensive exemption? I think like quite frankly, the most suspect. Okay. Well, that's just the thing you have with the whole tour. And it's like two and a half years because he gets this half year is two years plus that. That's what I don't get. It's like, why is it not just exempt? I don't know. It should be one year. To me, the most eyebrow raising one is like SIG events for the rest of this year. Like really? I don't know. I think that's like, that's a pretty lofty cutoff. Like once you're in, it's really hard to, it's harder to drop out. And there's a lot of them. I don't know. Speets not even exempt into all the signature. Well, you can get the sponsors exemptions that he'll find this way into those. I did hear from some folks in New Orleans like, hey man, the tour gave us no chance to be good. We're jammed behind RBC heritage, which is signature, behind Cadillac, which is a signature, behind Quail, which is another signature, and then the PGA. It's like, what are we supposed to do? And that's fair. That's fair. Like there is no real fighting chance when that's the schedule. And if you want to talk about scarcity, this is probably one that you're just wondering like it's never, it's just sort of always, thankfully we have a PGA now, but man, Masters US Open just to be like, used to be this lawn like wander in the wilderness. If you're going to go scarce, you kind of look around and be like, this one feels vulnerable. I do think that this is, I don't think that this shouldn't exist. Like this tournament, I think should exist in some form or fashion. But the way that it came to be a couple of years ago, I mean, it would have been what, eight years ago now, seven? The two man thing? Yeah. Where Zurich just was like, you know, people at that time, this was pre-live. And if I, my memories are calling like people were like, oh, the tour is getting stale, little stale. And then Zurich went to the tour with this idea. And if I remember, like other sponsors were kind of upset about them getting this deal. And it's ironic that, you know, the first couple of years it was like new, they got big names playing in it, and it was fun and different. And now it's morphed into like, it is going to get killed with the scarcity schedule. But my, the fact that it just is like this random team event on this date on the calendar. Random is a great word for it. It's just a random team event dropped into the middle of the calendar with no rhyme or reason why it exists. But the problem is, is that people are going to be like, the team format didn't work. And it's like, did the team format not work? Or did you not give it a chance to work because you had no planning go into this? And the sponsors just like, I, we want to do this. And for a couple of years it differentiated them. It gave them more value of the sponsorship. But at the end of the day, it feels like this needs to be more than just one event. If you want to make like this team golf work, because I do think it's an interesting format. And if you got the very best players playing it, people would find it pretty, pretty fun. Yeah. I mean, you're right. They did get players and now it's become sort of this like Trojan horse. Where a player will come in and then out pops underneath Russ Cochran pops out of the Trojan heart. Right. But they're cold. Like that has to come like this vessel to bring like the smuggle these players who have no business on tour. But you're right. It should be some sort of series, some sort of connective tissue to why it exists. And with the third week of April, we just are going to have a team event along in a schedule of 45. Individual stroke play events. We're just going to have this one team competition. Yeah. No rhyme or reason. It was really cool to see the Fitts's, you know, Alex was, they're almost like incredulous aside themselves. They've clearly a meaningful, very meaningful victory for both of them. The Norwegians and the two Danes right there nipping at their heels. God, we had a good chat with the some Danes at the Masters and they're like, they're coming. There's just more of them coming. There's so many coming from the continent. They're 14, they're 15, they're 68. Like they're just common. There's, I don't know if the balance is going to flip from continental youth players, continental players and Scandinavian players from out of the UK. But it just sounds like there's waves of those players coming and they're already just, they're already making an impact on tour. You know what we call this? What's that? The Soren Kelsen generation. Inspired by his, what was it? T4, the Masters? 2016 Masters. He was the rightful winner of the 2016 Masters. Not Thomas Bjorn. This inspired a whole generation and it is pursuing the golf career. Not Thomas Bjorn's contention at St. George. Is there anything like that? No, Soren Kelsen. All right. Love that. So, this is the time you're at a senior tour event. You got to ask Soren Kelsen about him, his role inspiring the wave of Danish prodigies on the DJ tour. I mean, hopefully we get some wins from the Danes by then. There's so many of them. We got to start checking that box first. I just to note, I'm talking Rasmus Niergaard-Petersen and Jacob Scovalson who are T4, two back ones. 66 in the old shot on Sunday to make a run at it. And then the two Christophers. Alex Small, the Hayden Sprayner also finished T2. God, we were on a text chain with Joseph, just who was disgusted, absolutely appalled by the quality of play in this event. I think he treated something similar like this is just house cat central. Everybody's terrible. The Davis Thompson's just should excuse himself from the proceedings. It wasn't well played until Fitsie's bunker shot essentially. A lot of just scuffling around. Not a great tournament in terms of quality of play or pace of play. Hey, alternate shot 420. That's going to get you throwing out. It should be like 320. That's going to get you throwing out a lot of clubs. If you go around Muirfield playing old shot, four plus hours or any of these places, should they do the sling shot where the guy hitting the second shot should have to wait out out there somewhere. 160 yards. You know what I've never understood? What? Like why people read Putts's teams? Like why you bring your partner, especially these guys, they play, we'll call it 30 weeks a year without ever having input from a partner on a putt. It's like you working out with you and your caddy or just yourself. Why? Because you have a partner, you just change and be like, Hey, what do you think? Yeah. Like if you had a partner and you're driving a car, would you be like, Hey, do you think I should turn left here? I could never figure that out with TGL too. If well or not. Like I don't mean to even bring it. But like why did like, we had like three guys reading the green all the time on TGL. Yeah, it's a fair point. It doesn't make any sense. You read Putts by yourself all the time. I wanted to just reiterate, I will mark this day in the calendar, the day before I turned 40 as the day that I got to witness Joseph melting down and selling all the shares on Davis Thompson. I was so mad about Davis Thompson. I mean, I've been listening to him talk about how Davis Thompson is like, you know, going to be the next guy for, I feel like four years, five years. And it seemed like today just he gave up on it. It was terrible. They were in that final group, him and Austin Acro. They were bad. I was clarifying, working to clarify this as we record if top 10 gets into the next event is top five. So you have Ben Martin and Trace Crow of like their status is, I don't know what their status is. It can't be good. They're getting into whatever the next event is. I can't believe Ben Martin is still a name that we talk about on our golf podcast because he hasn't done anything relevant. Nothing of relevance. Since we started this podcast. You're T4. You got into whenever I don't know what the next maybe the opposite. Is there an opposite field? Well, it's Myrtle if it's an opposite. But if it's not, then it's Craig Ranch, which is, you know, the biggest, the biggest event of the year, perhaps. Love that. Ben Martin, 425. Do you know how many top three finishes he has since since 2016 BP? Top three. Yeah. Zero. One. Zero. Okay. I still he has a second in 2016. I mean, he was a very, very small P problem there for a few. No, he wasn't. He's never a problem. I just wanted to see if you're paid. He was pretty good. That's an insult to the problem. The category of problems. Can't put him in. I just want to say he was like, he was okay. He was not bad there for a while. He won twice in 2013. T6. Tom Hogan is shocking because we got reports of him out patronizing the casinos of New Orleans on Saturday night as it's, as his natural habitat. But he and Billy Ho. I think it's T6. Nothing else. I have nothing else from. Well, I just like to point out Billy Ho, good finishing a team event. This guy's built for team events. He should be, he should have been the Ryder Cup captain or he should be on the Ryder Cup team. Yeah. You're just giving him the captaincy. I don't know. The Furick thing. You guys hit it on YouTube. News. Jim Furick is the Ryder Cup captain. I did a quick 20 minute chat on Friday about that. I don't know. I guess like I've done, you can't get frustrated because like frankly there just aren't very many good choices. Like everybody's throwing their hands up. But this is a very uninspiring choice. It also feels like you're sending Furick to go out and get slaughtered again. Cannon fodder Furick. Is that what you're saying? Is that what you're saying? I mean, there aren't, there's no magic. There's nobody there. There's no magic bullet. There's nothing. Yes. And it might be uninspiring, but I don't know. It feels like a safe, like you're just taking a safe coordinator hire in the college, right? You know, or in the NFL ranks. I've taken a left tackle like what the Browns did for the 100th time in my life in the top 10. Everybody's raving about the Browns picks. They always are. People are raving about the Jets picks too. Congrats to the Jets. That's great. So yeah, they just, it's Furick. I don't know. Do you, do you have a, we did, we talked 20 minutes. I don't think it's that big a deal. I don't know what the other option were. I think experience kind of could matter. You know, in a way we always talk about, it's probably better than the whiplash of like some cowboy riding in. They're underdogs. Like think about anybody against Luke Donald at this point. You're just, yeah, you might be cannon fodder at this point. Maybe they should have made a Charlie Hoffman, just he knows how to be proper cannon fodder. Phil sent them out there to get blasted. Just waddles out there. Boom. Honestly, would you be more excited about Furick or Nick Saban? More excited is the question. I'd be much more excited about Saban. I honestly think the US teams at a point where they should just like enlist some celebrity coach. Who did Phil said he wanted Lou Holtz? No, right? Isn't that who he said? Yeah, I think so. I mean, he's not an option now, but I think he gave some inspiring speech or something in Valhalla. I think that if you're really good at this, as Luke Donald has proven, you can be really good at this. But like if you're average, it just doesn't matter. I don't think the US has any good picks. Great picks that are non-active players. They need a dodo. Everybody's average. You might as well just go with somebody who's going to be a motivator. Yeah. Is that Nick Saban? Maybe. He just did 70 hours of draft coverage. God, that seems like a terrible thing to have to do. Walking out with Morgan Wallin at the concert there. He's in the public eye a lot lately, seems like. He got caught on a hot mic calling somebody something a reach, I guess, a pick a reach, which like quite frankly is what you should do at the draft, right? Give real takes. People say that you can't do that on these young men's most important day of their life. But that would be an interesting show. Hey, you know what I'm talking about? Insane behavior. Option one, going to a garage sale. Option two, going to the NFL draft. Who are these grown men who go to the NFL draft to watch names read out? Were you doing social media when Detroit had it? Yeah, I was down there. You were an executive then. You were one of the NFL executives then. I mean, it was like there was like 200,000 people. That was the biggest one until this year, I saw it. Yeah, because Green Bay couldn't fit enough people in their parking lot. No, it's because Green Bay sucks. But like why? Why are you going to that? You know, we should do this a different time. We had a great conversation with your friend, our friend now Gil, when we were in Chicago. He's like, what's like the most insane fan behavior? And he proposed a good one of like, you telling your wife, I got to go out to the fridge in the garage and get an octopus. And you shove it down your pants to sneak into a Red Wing game. Like that, that's bizarre. Like, honey, I got to go and I'll see you. And you go out to your garage fridge and get a frozen octopus or whatever. You shove it down your pants because you got to sneak it in. Like, what are you doing with your life at that point? I think growing NFL drafts up there. That's the thing. It's like, that's the scale is like, what would you be ashamed that your wife is dead? Yeah, I think the octopus one is pretty bad. Putting face paint on to go here names read out loud on a stage. It's kind of weird. I don't know. I mean, like going to like one of those really cold games, whether it's at the Browns, the Jets or the Bears, going outside with like very minimal clothing on and painted is to be up there. It's like, why? Makes no sense. All right. We've grown winding. Some people would say going to the Zurich Classic. I'll tell you one thing that's not crazy. Yeah, they might. PJ has a hot take. PJ, get in here about going to Zurich Classic. What was your contention about attendance? No, this was Mitsubishi. This is champ champions. I understand that. Oh, you said there were more people at TPC Sugarloaf. Then, then I think potentially at Memorial Park or Zurich. Or the LPJ major or the PJ Tour event. Yeah. Sugarloaf was packed out for some legendary moments today. I feel bad that these people didn't get a full dose of Zinger like we got at home, but it was most of it at the really tournament to watch in person. I think we can do this later. I think the camera might be playing tricks on you, but you know where they don't play tricks on you? Is that Golf Galaxy? I do because I've been there. I do know this for a fact. They don't play any tricks. They try to get you fit just right. Golf Galaxy. It's easy and convenient within app. What is this graphic, PJ? Bring your tastes to the tea. What does this mean? You can bring food to your fitting. Is that what there's a Taco Bell? There's a bunch of junk food in here. Golf Galaxy. It's easy and convenient within app booking or stop by your local store to schedule. Bring your full bag of gamer clubs and our team of thoroughly, their team, not our, that's the wrong pronoun, their team of thoroughly trained fitters will optimize every club in your bag to get you playing your best golf. Visit your local Golf Galaxy and download the Golf Galaxy mobile app. It's the best way to upgrade your game here as we hit into the high season. It's almost May. Get dialed up. Download the app or visit your local Golf Galaxy. Great graphics work, PJ. Were you trying to mess with me there? What was that, PJ? What was the, what was the cook there? Just trying to throw me a purple. No, I just, I, I'm just, I following instructions. I'm supposed to put the graphic up during the ad read. Here we are. You did a great job. You got it up. I appreciate it. Say something about the taste. Yeah. Bring your taste to the tea. They got head covers with Tsutsi Roll and Taco Bell and. Oh, those are head covers. God, we need to roll back the head cover. New fancy, fancy head covers. I love those head covers. All right. You know, just like a spoof of, you know what I wish I still had. I used to have a Vienna beef hot dog head cover. I should start using it. Go back to that. Go back to that. Did not get sold into the garage sale. No, I didn't put much golf stuff out in the garage sale. I did, you know, I did have. I had like a couple items in there, but nothing, nothing, nothing. My wife was like, why don't you put something out there? I'm like, this is, would be the worst forum to sell my golf stuff. If we wanted, if we wanted to talk about selling my golf stuff, we're not putting it out in a Gen Pop garage sale. Might be former current sponsors that you just don't want to throw under the bus. Hopefully not. I mean, one of the items I sold had a Baba Buoy button on it. Okay. All right. There you go. Did not sell for very much. That's fine. That's fine. All right. One more thing. I guess a lot of a lot of uproar about this Oklahoma State golf graphic. Did you see this? They whitewash amazing. I'm a tell cast. They didn't have half one. This was, this was Mark. Dude, was this because of a Bosch you and Sam Stevens? I assume they put them up. Then they should have. I was playing too. And they're right. And so they put this graphic. Or they put this picture. And Christopher. Right. Yeah. So several of them. I'll get it pulled up. And they removed. Howland and Matthew Wolff. Who is. Let's just like, what happened was the. What's in the graphics kid and they said, Hey, these four Oklahoma State players are playing in the field. Or playing in this tournament and and they're in. In the mix, you know, yeah. So, yeah. Now look at this. They didn't on the telecast. They did not have Victor. Howland. You can tell that the Howland graphic is different here. It's a different font. It's a different box. You can just tell. For social and digital, they added a caption like this is Victor. Howland also a notable professional. So anyways, this graphics kid, they told him to do this. Probably didn't have the wherewithal to know that the. Howland and Matt Wolf were also on this team. Matt Wolf and Howland were the one and two on this team. Crazy thing about Sam Stevens. Yeah. He didn't even play. He was number six on this team. Which is wild. Like you think about it and. He's had a better PGA tour career than Ventura. Bo shoe. Obviously not to where acroats gotten, but yeah, you know, if you would have said, you know, Sam Stevens is going to have a better career than Matthew Wolf. People have been like, that's insane. He's had a great career. Well, I mean, good, good career. I don't know if somebody, you could probably make the argument that Matt Wolf's career is still better. I would agree with that. I mean, I got, he did a lot in a short amount of time. Wolfie. Might be not enough to make the graphic. No, I can't believe that. So they got lambasted for this, but it was just, yeah, they were just labeling things. They forgot to mention Matthew Wolf and Hovland. No, they added Hovland later. That does it for New Orleans. Let's get to the women's major championship on LPGA. We're trying to schedule Megan Matthew. We might get them in here before all of a sudden done, but Nellie Corta wins the second time the Chevron, the Chevron championship. It's takes the jump into the pool. It was kind of cruising the entire weekend, right? So they're on NBC and she goes to jump in the pool. You know what happened? Yeah, they went to Peacock. They got moved over to the cock. I, yeah, you know, while they're trying to get subscribers, that's how they do it. You know, they do one Notre Dame game, one NFL game, and one pool jump exclusively on Peacock. And that's how they get these subscribers in the boat. Can I read a story from a couple of years ago? I was watching the last few holes of the Chevron with my daughter, who seems to have an interest in Nellie, but she started getting bored and whining at the very end, asking if she could put on one of her shows. I was convincing her to keep watching because Nellie was going to jump in the pool with all of her clothes on. It's going to be pretty funny. Next thing I know, there's no pool jump. And I see Ava and I, we're going to jump in the pool. We're going to jump in the pool. Next thing I know, there's no pool jump. And I see after the fact, it was moved to Peacock after all that. I mean, and as PJ said, they strained to make sure that pool was not a word that was available in the English language to them. We heard temporary water feature. I mean, come on. It's a good call to pool. There's a word for what that is. Is an installation of water in a rectangular feature. There are stairs in it that you can walk out of. We have a word for that in English and the word is pool. That pool was heated. What color pool? What in the pool was heated? No, no, that would be an insane waste of money. I can't, I can't put it past them to eat it. Honestly, I would not be stunned. My thing, they jumped so high. Silly. Like they hit the bottom. They absolutely hit the bottom. She's 5'10". He's got the caddies, big boys, agent. They're all running and it's four feet. Full cannibal. Full cannibal into a 4'4". She had to hit the bottom. You would get kicked out of a public pool for that. Yeah, they'd throw you out. So that happened on Peacock. One after you'd watched and did the, I'm like, look, she had a great bit about like this is a tradition. Traditions die when you stop doing them and I'm going to keep doing it. She's now done it twice in three years. What are you giggling about? I just, I just was opening Twitter because I wanted to re-watch the pool jump. But I re-opened it and I opened it to the LeBron tweet about bring it home, Nellie. And then the other tweet right under it that showed up was Joseph's, Hi LeBron, any thoughts on the TIO pool off of 18? Thanks. Good luck tonight. LeBron, if you're such a golf edge, shouldn't you have gotten across town to watch it in IRL, in person instead of just tweeting about it? He probably was watching it from some, you know, recovery. There's probably a video of him watching it from some, you know, recovery, which he'll later put on his Instagram story about putting it in work. Brennan, I can't believe you are not even, you're, you teed him up to slander LeBron on top of what may be the most like improbable sweep in NBA history tonight. I mean, you know, we're all witnesses. He's been doing it for 23 years. It's kind of insane. It's incredible. You know, the fourth best player of all time. He's scoring points now, just two outstanding individuals. Love it. He might get, you know, this might put him in, you could maybe have a conversation of who's greater LeBron or Tim Duncan. Okay. You can have that conversation with yourself if you want. Tim Duncan's, if Tim Duncan had put a shred of self-promotion in his life, he would be known as the second greatest player of all time. This is what these debates do. Like you want me to like besmirch Tim Duncan, which is not a place I want to do, live and do. That's not what I want to do, but come on. Nelly Corden. If you were starting a team, would you take Duncan or LeBron? LeBron. Stop it. That's fine. You go do that. You go do that. That's fine. Open up your NBA. You know what we know? We know our team wouldn't get hijacked in our future because we'd have someone that would allow the general manager to general manage. Hey, both are great options. I'm not going to sit here and talk bad about Tim Duncan or Nelly Corden, who's now won two Chevron championships in three years, 24. She's won in both venues in Houston now. She's got to go with her Atlanta Athletic Club PGA back in 2021. She's got three majors back to world number one takes over from Gino, which didn't seem like that would happen for a while based on how Gino had kind of grasped it at the end of 25. She spent, I think the stat Justin Ray had was T2 or better in five straight starts, you know, had like, you know, battles out West in addition to the three round win at the Hilton Grand Vacations, whatever that is. It's just kind of like an asterisk, but just clearly a top five of the leaderboard pretty much since she started playing this year. And back to world number one, dominant win called it like one of the harder mental challenges of the weekend because you're five, six clear. There's like, there's two outcomes. You're expected to win or you have like an all time collapse. It's kind of a tough spot to be, right? I don't want to suggest like, oh, you're up by a lot of shots. That's a bad place to be. But mentally, like either this is going to be awful collapse or like I do what I'm supposed to do when up five or six. It's a tough spot. I think like, listen, it's weird to say this, but you're, it's so hard to play golf with a big lead because it's you're not used to it. You know, you're kind of used to playing in the way of like, OK, I have to play well. There's going to be people really close. Like you're almost comfortable doing that. Nellie talked about in her post round, like how this was one of the toughest mental mentally toughest weekends of golf she's played because it and I totally get it. It sounds super counterintuitive, but playing with a big league is really hard. Right. She got a cross line. Never really got close. You know, she have a tan a kick got close. Like or try to it never really was, you know, two or three strokes. She she kept it her arm arms length the whole way around, especially on Sunday. Never uncomfortable. A lot of a lot of hollering as there often is about the coverage. You know, NBC didn't come on till late. Nellie played her first hour, 20 minutes when there wasn't broadcast. It was on Peacock and NBC. That seems to be a frequent sort of punching bag with the LPGA majors or the coverage. I don't know. I'm hearing reports of the pool. The pool is pretty good. Pretty warm. It wasn't heated. You're getting firsthand reports. First-hand reports. Okay. Well, Nellie was talking about how it's so hot this weekend. She was looking forward to it all weekend just to take a plunge. Whether it was warm, maybe it didn't provide. You know, they took the nephew and just dunked him. The Jess's son that needed to react to it. Well, as one should scream in his head off, screaming his head off. And the broadcast was very awkward. Just having to acknowledge it because you could hear it. I think Carl said he's not yet aware of the great tradition. He's like, yeah, I mean, he's three or whatever he is. He doesn't, none of this matters. He developed childhood trauma. I also, I would just throw out that I mentioned this. Is this like the Stanley Cup for Jess where you touched it before you won? I like, it's kind of, as a man of superstition myself, I would not. I think you just go with your family and yeah, she happens to also be a tour pro. Anything else on the Chevron championship, Andy? Nellie, it was like over all weekend. The coverage stuff. It's tricky, right? You want the sport to get more eyeballs. You want the sport to have more opportunities, but when it has opportunities, it also has to deliver the eyeballs. And I think it's like tricky, right? I think there's a lot that was made earlier in the week of the attendance, you know, and a lot of lack that are of, you know, where the number one player in the world is playing on the back dine on a Friday afternoon, you know, shooting 31 and there's, you know, a couple dozen fans watching, you know. So it's, I think that this job, the kind of Craig Kessler's job is one of the more difficult commissioner jobs in all of sports. Because like there seems to be, you know, if we're speaking honestly, a disconnect of right now, fan interest in the sport and really like. Publicization, women, yeah, recreational golf. Yeah. It just hasn't taken off. And I, you know, I don't think the extra hour on NBC makes a difference. I would agree. I didn't want to like, I just, I'm not like, I have, I'm not here to defend NBC really in any way. Like they should probably could. They have 8 billion networks just to add the hour. I think that's just like the the intensity of the hollering about that doesn't match like the actual impact or problem in my opinion Yeah, I think you know I think this event I'll be curious to see what the ratings are they they've not been good the last few years. They've just not been good This event just feels like it needs something more. You just had this superstar number one player American woman win who's obviously finishing top two every week It's probably the best case scenario as for a winner I'm curious to see how it does it just feels like it doesn't have juice right now this Chevron championship And then I think like the intensity and pressure is gonna ramp up on on this new LPGA regime And it's a hard job. I think the honeymoon period is already getting getting a little short It seems like not just cuz that's the way these things go But there's something about this event that I feel like just needs a little bit more and maybe it'll in that traction with year over year at Memorial Park I Don't know the issue with the event was it it was bought by Chevron it was a it was like a bought major and Because of that it's effectively a new thing that people are saying is super important But the importance like tradition is what generally builds Important like history and tradition is what we just I mean we just covered the Masters a couple weeks ago And why it feels different is because the players feel different when they come down on the back nine Trying to win it and I just I think they had that more at Mission Hills You don't know weird way I wonder if if that if LPGA majors would be more effective in smaller markets Well like the Invernus it's her Toledo or like a soulheim when it went to Iowa I was it record crowds Like go into Houston in April I I Don't know I I don't I don't think it's it if you want to have a big fan Turn out, but I don't know what's What are they trying to do? Are they the the issue is they aren't delivering a great on-site? You know product they're not delivering a great television product And I feel like they need to deliver one of those two You know yeah, I think the move to if you're you're gonna be in Houston for this the move to Memorial Park Really good move that is a great move because at least like you have a chance because there's all these people that play golf there There's a public recreational golf or connection there. Yeah. Yeah, but the first year, you know turnout wasn't Was not great, and I don't know how you make it better. Well There was a comment and it was just like towards the end of the broadcast I watched most all day Sunday and Saturday There's like a comment like this great first year at Memorial Park the permanent home of the show like Anything nothing about this championship in recent years has suggested anything is permanent like okay You might say it's permanent you might say this is what the plan is but like there is nothing permanent right now Just call it the permanent almost like alright, maybe I could see it in three years Like they're gonna switch it up and it's now it's going to a different city I just to use that word permanent feels like really Really tenuous right now with this specific championship. So But Nelly Korda seems to have found a fondness for it. She's now wanted twice in three years Yeah, I mean Nelly for the LPGA another great run It seems like it will see how many when she could pile up this year But you know you're talking about in the last you know four years just some historic runs. Yep. Yep Great for her to just get another major. I think you know It was kind of weird how she only had two Yeah, it's a career that feels like more deserving of more majors commensurate. Yeah, she's so like Should be on a pathway to four or five. I don't know. She just feels like it should get more So she's up to three now continuing on with the Champions tour PJ get in here TPC sugar love the Mitsubishi electric championship who won it? I know that was in it Goosen Goosen was cooler than the hallway at the Sawgrass Marriott this morning According to Paul A. Singer I Mean to use Andy's favorite word. This is an earnest recommendation You Just need to find your way into champions tour broadcast at some point in your life in the next few months It is a cornucopia of delights. It is so fun. It is hilarious Maybe unintentionally so I cannot I watched tape delayed Tape coverage this morning while I was waiting for girls across the start of yes Saturday nights round I'm golf channel at like 8 a.m. This morning in my car. I could not I could not have been more entertained we had zatch went to the plum Bob That's Johnson and John Cook immediately goes love the love that plum Bob Paul A. Singer So cookie a big fan of the plum Bob to which Zaynir said yeah, I love it I like a lot better than that aim point stuff That aim point takes forever. I don't even know what it's all about or what it is or what it does has no idea What aim point is you just mad about it? You've got cookie Essentially cookie and Zaynir Blissfully and like look these guys were bona fide tour pros are allowed to be you know Just not up on the scene and still have an air of confidence like hey man. I did it. I can say whatever I want But just they they don't care Like I love to see the plum Bob get the same point shit out of here And I don't know what it is, but I wanted out of here. I mean it was I have some more notes from today if you want to go they were talking about I Believe it was an approach into 15 It's like kind of an elevated approach down into the green and Zaynir just goes You know, this is this is our favorite approach out there like when we're out there playing This is your favorite approach to hit and Papa just goes well Paul. I've never played it Singer played it I mean apparently Zaynir probably has been out at the loaf before They're sort of sub-tweeting by saying these at the Sawgrass Marriott's he's just still pissed. He's got to be doing it They're not out there Cool in the hallway at the Sawgrass Marriott this morning was a banger Sabah was putting with the sand wedge after breaking his putter early in the round. I didn't there was no How that happened but the phrasing was Parting ways with his putter earlier in the round And then Zaynir Zaynir asked Longer than some coaching hires in the NFL which just teed pop up to talk about the giant straff It was great. We were talking about how great the giant straff was on paper and Papa just goes always on paper It's pretty good. Just taking some some you know pops and Joe Shane It was just amazing stuff I've gotta watch the champions to a brock even 15 minutes you will be underpaid Yeah, if you give it 15 minutes somebody will say some absolutely absurd thing like guaranteed every 15 minutes We I mean I said in our text read like we need to free ziggers had like Walt Disney like we can't lose this This is just this man's just throwing heat It's the best is the best Good all right. I will say How about Zatch riding a cart? You mean no way. Yeah confirmed. Yeah, he's riding a cart. Well, I will tell you the zatch's pace of play Not at marble not admirable in the champs tour took like three minutes to hit his approach in 18 today To immediately get stuffed in a locker by the goose again cooler than the hallway at the sawgrass Marius this morning That's just a talk You know the worry Bryson treatment Yeah, he ended up losing by one today's hatch and as he made his putt I think he lost by one and as he made his buddy was what they zoomed in on him walking off the green to get to his caddy And you could just hear him yell Some unsavory words very angry he can't that yeah. Yeah. Yeah, not happy I guess that on the 12th green. Yeah, not happy out of itself All right Just you felt like you left it out there for sure, but it looked like I mean stu-sink had a chance Playing motivated perhaps after another slight by the PGA of America. So keep an eye on that for the rest of summer I mean, how much time are you spending in a hallway of a hotel to have like a real take about it? Use it as a frame of reference later. Anyways, congrats to goose and stable for for reasons I don't know reasons that are unclear Elsewhere on the DP world tour. We've got burnt cheeseburger Coming back back Winning the Volvo China open burned V's burger beats the volman at Adriana Togway by three wins over there Andy the Royal Burkdale we've gone ham at Royal Burkdale The Singapore open John won John whoa ham Because and Cameron John have qualified for the 154th open at Royal Burkdale Winning the Singapore open and finishing hide the Singapore open presented by the business times No, so when we get to July you see the word ham on the leaderboard and Cameron John is it John Cameron notes Cameron John That's you're just gonna think back to April's Singapore open You want to talk about giving Alex Fitz up a place in the PGA I would suggest giving these two guys the place in the open Maybe more suspect beat out by a stare and jazz Jan Awanan The jazzy J. All right. He's kind of falling off Kaila Sirot did Caleb Sirot things he first in the top 10 John woo ham and Cameron John congrats to them and then I know your event of the week You're monitoring this one all weekend through the garage sale on the stay short tour Greg Owen produced a This is straight from the press release because I have nothing else about this event Greg Owen produced a superb bogey-free final round 64 to secure a two-shot victory at the Barbados legends hosted by Yidwuznum at apes Hill or Opus Hill whatever everyone to pronounce that Congrats to Greg Owen. You're a friend of the week winning on the stay short short stage or tour formerly the senior See beat Scott hand Jamie Donaldson was also involved Steven Gallacher. We're all what's going on with Stenson How is he not? I mean he hasn't played the real these guys because he's Been with his magic sticks doing different things for the last three years. I don't know what he is he first T20 He's he's lost it Not not a lot of reps. I don't know he's lost it. He's wandered in the wilderness before I think that does it. Oh and congrats. This is a friend of yours friend of the program Patrick Flavin wins on the PGA Tour America They're not a friend of mine. He's just an Illinois guy. All right. Yeah, Illinois guy Patrick Flavin wins on the PGA Tour America's that does it for a weekend was he finished 49,000 60. That's definitely it's hard being the host That's that's what it is. That's why he finished 49 Hard to host. Um, all right That does it. It's been hard to host this episode. We'll we'll be back Wednesday Happy birthday Andy enjoy a day off. Hopefully you don't have to do much on Monday Have 25 calls or whatever you got going on. I mean, I worked all weekend. I worked a garage still all weekend, so But you what three glasses of wine maybe last year last night You'd be surprised all those dollar items add up over time, you know Congrats. All right. Everybody enjoy your Mondays. We'll talk to you on Wednesday We got the Cadillac championship at D'Areal back in our lives this week, so we'll talk to you on Wednesday about that You