Miracle Mentality with Tim Storey (Motivation, Self Help, and Mental Health)

Sahil Bloom: Finding Success Beyond Financial Abundance | Mindset | E24

39 min
Jan 26, 20264 months ago
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Summary

Tim Storey interviews Sahil Bloom, a bestselling author and mentor, about redefining wealth beyond financial abundance. Bloom discusses his framework of five types of wealth (time, social, mental, physical, financial), the importance of curiosity-driven discovery over rigid planning, and the shift from work-life balance to work-life harmony.

Insights
  • Curiosity and energy alignment are better predictors of success than formal planning or credentials; following what creates energy leads to asymmetric opportunities
  • Time is the most precious non-renewable resource; deliberate allocation of time should take priority over financial accumulation at all life stages
  • Relationships compound like financial investments; small consistent investments in relationships predict health and happiness outcomes more than wealth
  • Creating forced space and stillness between stimulus and response enables strategic thinking and creative breakthroughs that constant connectivity prevents
  • Life operates in seasons requiring different wealth priorities; early career financial focus can enable later-life flexibility and relationship investment
Trends
Loneliness epidemic and declining in-person social connection among teenagers and adults despite digital connectivityShift from traditional success metrics (money, credentials, school prestige) toward holistic well-being frameworks emphasizing multiple wealth typesCreator economy and newsletter-based audience building as viable alternative to traditional career tracksMindfulness and intentional space-creation practices gaining prominence in high-performer and entrepreneur communitiesReframing of work purpose through personal meaning-making rather than job satisfaction or compensationMulti-platform wealth education and personal development content consumption among millennial and Gen Z audiencesEmphasis on discovery-based learning and curiosity cultivation over structured goal-setting in mentorshipWork-life harmony framework replacing work-life balance discourse in organizational and personal development contexts
Topics
Five Types of Wealth FrameworkWork-Life Harmony vs. Work-Life BalanceCuriosity-Driven Career DevelopmentTime Wealth and AllocationSocial Wealth and Relationship InvestmentMental Wealth and StillnessPhysical Wealth and HealthFinancial Wealth BuildingLoneliness Epidemic and Social ConnectionNewsletter Audience BuildingAsymmetric Opportunities and Nonlinear GrowthForced Space and Solitude PracticesPurpose-Driven WorkLife Seasons and Priority ShiftingComparison Culture and Social Media Impact
Companies
Penguin Random House
Publisher of Sahil Bloom's book 'The Five Types of Wealth' in the United States
Harper Collins
International publisher of Sahil Bloom's book 'The Five Types of Wealth'
Amazon
Recommended retail platform for purchasing Sahil Bloom's book with competitive pricing
Walmart
Retail platform mentioned for discounted hardcover availability of Sahil Bloom's book
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Platform included in Global SKU app for scanning and pricing items across multiple marketplaces
Facebook Marketplace
Platform included in Global SKU app for item pricing and resale opportunities
People
Sahil Bloom
Bestselling author, mentor, and former Stanford pitcher discussing five types of wealth and curiosity-driven success
Tim Storey
Podcast host, life coach, and former high school pitcher interviewing Sahil Bloom about wealth and mindset
Warren Buffett
Referenced as example of financial wealth versus time wealth; used to illustrate value of remaining years of life
Larry King
Cited as example of curiosity-driven success; discussed his interviewing approach based on genuine curiosity
Ferrell Williams
Referenced as example of curiosity leading to diverse career success across music, Broadway, and luxury fashion
Lionel Messi
Used as sports analogy for strategic energy deployment and creating space for optimal performance
Malcolm Gladwell
Referenced for 10,000-hour mastery concept; discussed in context of deliberate practice and mentorship
Victor Frankl
Quoted on the power of space between stimulus and response as foundation for personal agency
Blaise Pascal
Quoted on humanity's problems stemming from inability to sit quietly alone; referenced for stillness importance
John Paul DeGiro
Previous podcast guest mentioned as recommendation for Global SKU sponsorship discussion
David Beckham
Referenced as owner of luxury box at sports venue where Tim Storey observed Messi playing
Mark Efron
Friend of Tim Storey with season tickets and luxury box at sports venue
Quotes
"Curiosity is the key to life. I really believe that people that are curious find a way to achieve incredible outcomes."
Sahil Bloom
"When you measure the right things in your life, you take the right actions to build on those measurements and then you achieve the right outcomes that you actually want."
Sahil Bloom
"Work-life balance is fundamentally broken because the term itself places work and life on opposite ends that are in tension. What we need is work-life harmony."
Sahil Bloom
"You cannot plan for the true asymmetric things that are going to change your life because they are invisible to you. The only way they are revealed is by pursuing your curiosity."
Sahil Bloom
"An investment in your relationships compounds the exact same way as an investment in your money. The tiny thing done today is going to stack and compound into the future."
Sahil Bloom
Full Transcript
Hello, Miracle mentality. Family just heard my good friend, John Paul DeGiro. He was so good on this podcast. I want to tell you something that he's doing that I think is amazing. I'm introducing to you for the first time, global SKU is in that designed to help you make extra money for stuff that you have just sitting around. Now, how does that work? Number one, it only costs $12 a month and you can cancel any time. What happens is that you scan an item and it tells you what the item sold for in the last 90 days. And it lists across multiple platforms, including eBay, Amazon, Walmart, Facebook, Marketplace. This is amazing. Go to the global SKU website or the app store and start making money today. But I have something really good for you for the first 50 people from my world that comment, I'm going to give you global SKU for absolutely free for one month. For the first 50 people that comment, I want to give you a free month subscription. So respond right now. That's global SKU. Hello, my name is Tim Story. Welcome to Miracle Mentality. It's for the dreamers, the doers, the believers in something greater in each episode, I'll invite you to rise above the mundane, to push past the messy and learn to live boldly in the Maraculous. Every episode will have practical wisdom, spiritual insight and my guests will explore what it takes to activate your Miracle mindset. Remember to subscribe, follow and like. Welcome to the Miracle Mentality podcast. You guys must like it. We keep being in the top 10 in our category, both in all the different areas that matter to us. And I think part of it is the great guests that we get. We've been getting fantastic guests just talking about life and mindset, mentality, working through challenges in life. And thank you for all the feedback that you guys are giving us. So make sure and continue to like, subscribe and tell a friend. I learned that from watching another person's podcast. They said that. So like, subscribe and tell a friend. Today, the person that I'm interviewing, I studied so many of his videos, I feel like I'm his former roommate. But I'm excited about his life and what he's doing with his wife and his amazing child. Because he's an educator, he's a mentor, he's a tutor, he's helping people with life. At Sahil Bloom, he is now living in Boston, which is a beautiful city. But a couple of things that are going on in his life, he has a best selling book and they sold quite a few. We'll talk about that book, New York Times best seller. He's been on a tour for a long time, speaking about this book. And one of the things that I love that he talks about is that there are five types of wealth and that sometimes we got and chased things, but he's finding that that's not really the best way to go. And he talks about not work, life, balance, but work, life, harmony. And he's also a former picture in baseball and played at a high level, even at Stanford University. I'm a former pitcher and I went all the way to high school baseball. So that's close. So let's welcome to the program. Sahil Bloom, hi, Sahil, good to see you. Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate the warm words. So Sahil, let's go baseball for a minute. When you were in Little League at 12, were you a pitcher and a shortstop or what was your position? Yeah, pitcher shortstop, you called it. My baseball trajectory was kind of funny because I was really good in Little League and then I didn't grow. So like a lot of people grew and hit puberty and I was really small. And so like my middle school years and like the early years on the big diamond, I was pretty mediocre. And honestly, in hindsight, that was probably the best thing that happened to me because I really learned how to pitch during those years because I wasn't able to just throw it by guys like I was in Little League. And so by the time I sort of hit my growth spur freshman sophomore year of high school, I had really learned how to actually pitch and was pretty well set up to kind of vault from there. You're literally telling my story. That's why it seems like we were former roommates. So watch when I was 10 to 12, I was a pitcher and a shortstop. I was throwing heat mostly at like 11 and 12. Then in our league at 13, then you went to the pitcher's mountains like far away. Man, guys started like hitting me all over the place at 13. I was in shock. So what kind of pitcher were you? Were you more of a spot pitcher? Let's say at 14, 15, you could hit your spots well. You develop what kind of pitch? Yeah, I mean, I learned how to pitch back or it's really well during those years. So I would throw a lot of off-speed pitches. My freshman sophomore year of high school, I made it to the varsity team and did really well mostly because I could throw three or four different pitches for strikes, which is pretty rare at the high school level. I did not throw hard. I was throwing probably like between 75 and 80 miles an hour then. And then junior year, I started working out. I started training. I got bigger, hip-huberty. And I came back my junior season and I was throwing 89, 91 miles an hour. And I could still throw those off-speed pitches for strikes. And so then all of a sudden I went from being, maybe I could try to play in the Ivy League or something to, I had scholarship offer from Stanford. And that was just good fortune in a lot of ways. I worked very, very hard. But then during my Stanford years, I was mostly like a sinker baller. When I was healthy, I threw a pretty hard sinker. No, this is amazing. And to throw the ball that hard is not easy because I'm a life coach. So I life coach a lot of major league players. And I don't think it's that easy to consistently throw that hard. And then for you to develop these off-speed pitches, you were like the show hey, Otani before, show hey was around. That is way overselling me. I would gladly take the compliment if it was within the realm of my capacity. But I mean, I'm blown away by how hard guys are throwing these days. The game has really changed a lot since I played. But I had a lot of fun and learned a lot of lessons from the field that I've carried with me into my whole life. Okay, so let's jump into the fact that you are well known. And how many people that subscribed to your newsletter right now? It's getting close to a million now. That's been my main thing for the last four years. I started it May of 2021. So you do know that those are pretty amazing numbers because I roll with a lot of the guys to do the same thing, you know, that you do almost a million people. So what is the name of the newsletter? And then how does somebody get this newsletter? The newsletter is called the Curiosity Chronicle. You can find it at my website, which is just sawheobloom.com. If you go to sawheobloom.com slash newsletter, you can find it. Or it's on any of my social pages. You can just click the link. It's a big deal. Is it like a page or two pages or what is it? I send out three newsletters a week. Monday and Friday are like shorter, you know, call it two to three minute reads, single idea, you know, hit you with something to make you think or inspire you or a question to ask yourself to go deeper on. And then Wednesday is sort of a deeper dive, more like a seven, eight minute read. And then Saturday we send out sort of a review in case you missed anything that you can go into deeper. So this is kind of an interesting thing. I teach this thing where sometimes you decide and some things you discover. And I think that a lot of your life is in the discovery zone. And knowing what your father did for a living and maybe still does call it professor like at the high level, then your mother, you talk about your sister being smart. And then you're trying to find your way like when you were younger, right? And getting into finance, business, everything else. And now you find yourself perched in this place where you're like this mentor teacher person. Did you ever see that coming when you were younger, when you were like 17, 18 years of age, did you think you'd be this guy? No. But my newsletter is called the curiosity chronicle for a reason. It's because I believe that curiosity is the key to life. I really believe that people that are curious find a way to achieve incredible outcomes. I mentor a lot of young people now as I know you do. And I have found that there is this enormous amount of pressure and an almost obsession on things that I view as pretty unimportant like where you get into school as an example. There's so much pressure on kids on getting into the right school. And my view is that it doesn't really matter where you go. What really matters is that you are curious and you surround yourself with good uplifting positive people. If you do those two things, everything pretty much will work out in your life. Being curious leads you to be interested in the world, which means you create value for others. Creating value for others is how you receive value in return in the form of money and the form of relationships, et cetera. And I really just think that my journey is sort of a manifestation of that. I never had some grand strategy or plan to do the things that I'm doing today. I was just really curious and I leaned into things that created energy in my life. I started writing in 2020 only because I really found I was getting energy from it. I was working in a finance job down the stable career track towards the quote unquote successful life. And I stepped off of that to follow this energy that I had for writing on Twitter at this time, right? I was writing threads on Twitter. That makes no sense to step off of a stable lucrative track to go do that. But I had a lot of energy for it and I pursued the curiosity. And now here I am a few years later getting to do this. And I say that to say, I don't think there's something particularly special or incredible about me. I am really just someone who is willing to lean into that energy. And I believe fundamentally that when you are working on things that create energy for you, you will achieve the greatest outcomes. I'm loving this. Larry King, as you probably remember when you were really young, was an anchor and CNN where he had his own show, the Larry King show. So he used to eat breakfast at a place called Nate in house in Beverly Hills Monday through Friday unless he was on the road. So I'd see him like three days a week. It was like a delicatessen and super, super nice. So I used to sit with him a lot. And he talked about why he was good at interviewing people because I asked him that question. He goes, Tim, I'm curious. I'm curious. I'm curious all the time. And that's so, so true. Same with the Ferrell Williams. He says part of his success is curiosity. I mean, he goes from what? Introducing music to Broadway plays to now leading at Louis Vuitton men. And I love what you're saying because you never know or curiosity will take you. All right. So let's get into your latest book. The title of the book is what? The five types of wealth. You answered the question correctly because I have it right on my notes. I was testing you. Okay. I hope I know the name of my own book. Hold it up again. I'm going to see it. What a great cover. What a great cover. What publishing house did you end up going with? It was published by Penguin Random House in the US and then Harper Collins published it internationally. You ask, you had the two powerhouses. I did my last book before with Random House and my then my current book with Harper Collins. But you had you had to upstage me to bull. I had to. I'm sorry. Dog got it. All right. So let's dive into this book. So you talk about the five types of wealth, right? What I like to do if you don't mind because I've seen a lot of your interviews, if you could just give us just state the five without telling us what they all mean. And then let me pick two of the five. Is that okay? That sounds great. And then we'll dialogue. That sounds great. So the five types of wealth that I talk about in the book are time wealth, social wealth, mental wealth, physical wealth, and financial wealth. Okay. And you break them all down for us. So here's what people say. When you're going to be interviewed by Oprah, you're going to go through three of her producers. And they're all friendly. And what they're going to say is where did you get your material? Where did you study? How did you come up with this? So when you get into some of these subjects of these five areas, where did you get most of your material? Is it more experience or is it more research? Tell me where you got some of the material. The material is really a hybrid of everything. If you dive into the book, what you'll find is that it's a combination of personal experience as sort of the overarching through line, my own journey from going down this path of chasing the one thing of making money at the expense of everything else, rather than in conjunction with everything else. So there's the personal through line. There's a lot of human storytelling from real people. You know, I spent time with an interview thousands of people over the course of the three years writing this book. So real people who have encountered and lived differently on the basis of thinking about wealth in their own unique way. And there's research, science, storytelling, real science to back and support these ideas on these different types of wealth and how they create well-being, how they create longevity. And then there's a lot of ancient wisdom digging back through history of how humans wrestled with and struggled with these ideas of these different types of success of wealth of what it means to live a good life. Because the truth is that this idea is universal. This is not a Western culture. This is not only 25 to 30-year-olds encounter this. It doesn't matter if you're an 18-year-old just starting out your life or a 90-year-old thinking about the last 10 years of yours. You need to wrestle with these concepts of what it means to you to live a good life. And my fundamental thesis around the whole thing was that measuring the right things in your life is what's most important. Because when you measure the right things, you take the right actions to build on those measurements and then you achieve the right outcomes that you actually want. Okay, so one reason I asked the question is because I am so loving what you're saying and now reading your book knowing that you are going to be on. So I think that you are creating paradigm shifts in where our thoughts have been for so long on certain ideas. You are reframing things. So that's one reason I'm asking this question for the listeners to hear how this happened and why we're all listening to you because I'm listening to you and I've been coaching people a long time and I'm pretty good at it. But you're saying some things so I'm going to pick two of the five. Let's go with time. Okay. I like what you said about this thing about even like work-life balance. Let's put that in the time area, right? Where you call it more like being in harmony with something. If you can, talk to me about work, life, family, and time. What would you say about that subject? So the whole idea of work-life balance is fundamentally broken, in my opinion, because the term itself places work in life on these two opposite ends that are intention, right? They're pulling against each other and you need to choose. My belief is that what we need to be striving towards is work-life harmony. Work is a huge part of your life and that is a truth and a reality. So what we should be striving towards is this world where our work is a part of our life and we are including the people that are in our life in that journey that we are on. I spent time with, I think, a perfect example of this, is a gentleman who works on an assembly line. He's a very minimum wage or just above it, putting together widgets for eight hours a day, ten hours a day. And he self-defines as someone that has a really purpose-filled life. He feels a lot of purpose. And you think like, oh, how does he have purpose associated with that work? Well, he defines his purpose as creating a life for his son that he didn't feel his father created for him. And every day when he goes to work, he connects to that purpose. The work itself is not the purpose. The work itself is monotonous and boring and he probably doesn't like it a whole lot. But every day when he shows up, he has energy for that because he's connecting it to this higher order purpose. That is work-life harmony to me. That is you choosing to have a narrative, a story that you're telling yourself about what you are doing and the broader meaning and the broader purpose behind what that is, the vision of what you're actually trying to create. Thank you for watching the Miracle Mentality Podcast. So many of my friends are texting me, DMing me, speaking to me and saying, Tim, thank you for these great guests that you're bringing on. So share it with somebody, a friend, a family member, a colleague, and then make sure and reach out to us at Tim's Story Official and let us know that you love what we're doing. Thank you for being a part of this movement. Okay, so you also talk about though in your 20s, your aspirations may be different. Like you may go after that work side really, really, really hard and I so agree with that. I see it in coaching people, just studying people in the 20s, you see all these guys like they're on their grind or on beating the sun up, all that stuff, right? Then you give this great illustration about Warren Buffett and it was in an interview that you did in New York. You talked about who would like to trade with Warren Buffett because he's worth all these billions of dollars. But then you state something very interesting that, but at the same time, he's 95 years of age and you are sitting in an audience with people that were, some of them were 20, 21, 22 years of age. And so that's something to really think about. So when you think about how you spend your time now at the stage of your life compared to how you spent your time in your early 20s, give us a little bit of the difference. Yeah, I think that this is an important idea, which is just to say that when I talk about the five types of wealth, there is an immediate misconception, I would say, that what I'm saying is that you need to be in perfect balance across all five at all times. That is not the case. What I talk about in the book is this idea that your life has seasons and what you choose to focus on or prioritize during any one season will and should change. What that means is that your 20s and 30s may be a great time for you to lean into that financial wealth, the career part, and to build up that compounding engine that you know can set you up quite well for the rest of your life if you do it. I personally believe that for most people, the appropriate decision is to work hard in your 20s and 30s. That sets you up. It sets that engine going and you can financially coast if you work really hard in those early years of your life. It also just creates and expands your opportunity surface area for things to come in for you to meet people, for you to create new things in your life that you will benefit from for the rest of it. You may then want to scale that back when you have kids. You may have young kids in your 40s and you don't want to work 90, 100 hour weeks because you only get this short window that you have with your children. You know, that Warren Buffett analogy that you bring up, that question that I ask, what it's pointing out is that you in your own mind understand that your time has quite literally incalculable value. You would not trade lives for $130 billion because you are 30 and he is 95. That 65 years of time is not worth $130 billion to you. So as a result, if you are saying that on a daily basis, then you need to be so careful and deliberate about what you are allocating your time towards. It is the most precious resource and asset that you have. You can never get it back once it's gone. So be more deliberate about the way that you're using it. I love how you're saying this. So my background is my doctorates in world religion. So you're basically quoting Ecclesiastes chapter three of there's a time and a season for everything. A time to tear, a time to mend, a time to be silent, a time to speak. I think that in hearing your types of teaching, we're living in such a loud society where people are taken to social media and you talk about the comparison and looking at what everybody else is doing and chasing down these things. I also love what you say about that you're not chasing to be a billionaire. But I think someone like you may back up and just become a billionaire because you're not chasing it. This is really what I find in my life. Some people say, how did Tim's story become Tim's story? And then one guy said, he's like a forest gump. He just does these things pretty well. And he just keeps showing up places. It's really the dog on truth. And I think that sometimes when our intention is not so laser towards having all that money, but really spending our time being in the moment, we can come up with some pretty creative things. What do you think about that? I think that's right. I love the forest gump thing. I can't imagine you getting a higher compliment than that, by the way. It's one of my favorite movies. I have always believed that the greatest opportunities in life are nonlinear and invisible to you in a lot of ways. And the only way that you reveal them is by taking action. I have thought about this a lot. Five years ago, if you had asked me to create a plan for the rest of my life, like, where will you be in five years? Create your five year plan. I would have sat down and written down a hundred scenarios of where I might be in five years. Not a single one of them would have been here having this conversation with you, having published a book because I was working in finance at the time. I hadn't even started writing yet. And so what it reveals to me, it's just this idea that you cannot plan for the true asymmetric things that are going to change your life because they are invisible to you where you currently stand. The only way they are revealed is by pursuing your curiosity, leaning into your energy. And suddenly, those opportunities start to materialize. So I don't know if I will become a billionaire. It certainly won't be because I tried to become a billionaire. But who knows? You know, if you go out and you create so much value for other people in the world, which is really my intention in whatever it is that I do, whether it's with companies I invest in or things that I am working on writing that I put out into the world. If you create enough value, you receive value in return. So we both like Malcolm Gladwell. He talks about 10,000 hours to master something, but that would be with the right to do lage and mentors, etc. And I think some people have taken that and they just go wild on really trying to put in all those hours to master that thing, right? I think being you go a different way that we want to be really, really good at what we do, obviously, right? But at the same time, we want to get into that discovery mode and just figure things out. And I think that that takes time. So talk to me about you taking time off and just being by yourself, being in the moment and what that does for you personally. Because you got a lot of things pulling on you now. You're getting even bigger and bigger in this space. But when you are in the moment and you have time off, what is that doing for you as a human being? I am a huge believer in the power of space for creating the nonlinear asymmetric outcomes in your life. There's this quote, Victor Frankl said, our power is in the space that we can create between stimulus and response. If you think about your own life, very little space on a daily basis. You wake up in the morning, you grab your phone off your bedside table, thousands of people rush into your bedroom, right? Email social media notifications messages. You would never allow 1,000 people to physically come into your bedroom, but technologically for some reason we allow it. And from the time you wake up until the time you put your phone down in the evening, when you fall asleep, you're in this fixed loop of stimulus and response. What happens is when you're in that fixed loop, you're never able to see the bigger picture. You never zoom out enough to say, oh, there's the opportunity that really matters or there's the person that I'm neglecting that I really need to lean into. There's the thing that I should really be diving deeper on. You don't see that. You're living one foot above the ground. You don't see that. I try to create forced space. That forced space is the zoom out. If you think of a sports analogy, it's Leon El Messi walking around the soccer field for most of the game. Commentators constantly get angry that he's walking like it's laziness. What it actually is is he's creating a map of the field. He's conserving energy. And at the right moment in the perfect angle, he's deploying 100% energy to get the ball in score. We all need to live a little bit more like that when we think about our lives. That is about creating space, slowing down, being intentional about how you structure that into your life, even if it's as simple as a five minute break between meetings or a 15 minute walk after lunch or an hour once a month to just go to a coffee shop by yourself and just journal on some of the bigger picture things that you're facing. All of those tiny interventions add up to you seeing the field so much more clearly than you currently are. This is one reason you're getting huge. Just so you know that. So you just hit with such a great illustration of Messi. So I had never seen Messi play in person. So about five months ago, my friend Mark Efron, he has seasoned tickets, but he's got a box. He's got David Beckham's box. So you come out, see he'll watch, your feet are on the grass. So Messi is right in front of me. Look, I could grab his calf and I'm watching him. He's looks like he's walking. He's walking. He's barely jogging. He's walking. But then he strikes. Oh my goodness. So that particular game he scored one goal and one assist. But the way he scored the goal was he looked like he was just walking. As you just said, he picked a moment and he bam. There's something about this. Good going on that. Have you seen him playing person yet? I haven't unfortunately, although that sounds like an amazing experience. So I need to make sure I do before your retires. We'll go to Mark's box. He's a nice guy because it's a trip because look, the grass that there's a legend like that close. Don't twist my arm. I'll be there. What you're saying, he was so amazing because when I was in Sweden the first time when I was 20, they do this thing called Fika. And they're like, okay, now we're having Fika time. I was like, what's that? So they're going to have like hot tea and then they're going to bring things out on a train. We're all just going to just talk for like an hour about life. And I'm like with this famous heart surgeon, and he's just talking to me about life. He's not bragging about anything. He's just talking about life. Why is that Fika stuff so important to us to just be in the moment? If you think of life in general, there is this approach or this mental model or framework you can think of, which is just to say that you can get pretty damn far in life by doing what most people avoid. Most people avoid stillness and solitude. So you can get pretty damn far by embracing it. Most people avoid discomfort. So you can get pretty damn far by embracing it. Most people avoid reliability because it's hard. You can get pretty damn far by leaning into it. That applies to a lot of things that I try to pursue in life. I'm like, what are most people just actively avoiding? Let me go and do that thing. And this is one in the modern age of social media in particular that people are so afraid of being bored of slowing down enough. I mean, people take their phone to go to the bathroom. You're sitting on the toilet with your phone because you're afraid of being bored for the five minutes or two minutes that you're there. We have completely lost the ability to, as Blaze Pascal said, sit quietly in a room alone. He has that quote, all of man's problems, all of humanity's problems stem from his inability to sit quietly in a room alone. It's very true. What you find when you spend a little bit more time with yourself is that at first it's very uncomfortable than you cross the chasm and all of a sudden you start having these insights or these aha moments. It's the reason a lot of people are most creative when driving in the car or when in the shower because you don't have external stimulus popping into your brain and constantly filling the silence you're allowed to hear yourself, hear your own thoughts. Creating structure and creating rituals for that is a tried and true way to achieve some of the things that you've been missing out on in life. I'm loving this. I'm going to go to social in a minute. But before that, I'm going to tell you a story that's only that long. So I was in the studio with a rapper that you would find that this is interesting that I was with this rapper. He's one of the biggest we have. So he is writing a hit song that comes out later that's a gigantic hit. And the way he's writing it is he's humming this beat because I watch the whole process. He's humming this beat. He tells one of his guys, this is what I'm thinking about saying. This is what I'm thinking about saying. So then he says to me, well, what do you think about that? And I go, well, right now I'm just watching because I'm just watching this process. Sahil, in about a two hour space of him just being quiet and him just coming up with stuff, they put this beat together and he spits in rap terms. This thing that becomes one of the top rap songs, one of the top 10 rap songs in the last 20 years. And I literally went like, what the heck? And I think part of that was in the stillness, don't you think? 100%. You find this across the best creative minds and the best entrepreneurs. They live as a barbell. There is moments of extremist stillness and solitude on one end. And then there is moments of extreme intensity on the other end. And there's nothing in between. There's none of that nonsense grazing meetings, all of the stuff in the middle. It is one or the other and they are all go or they are all silence. It's not easy to live that way in a world that wants you in the middle, but it is really rewarding. Can you hold your book up for me again? Keep it up for a minute. You guys look at that cover. How'd you come up with that cover? My wife was a huge part of this. My wife is an amazing designer. When we were going through the whole book design and book cover process, she's home with our son. And we were looking at a bunch of things and she was like, hey, let me quickly just mock something up in different colors and she turned it around to me and I was like, oh my god, that's the thing. That's it. It was a pretty cool moment. Super, super good. Okay. So how can people get that book right now? You can get it on Amazon or anywhere books are sold. There's always discounts on Amazon and on Walmart.com. I find so you can get a really good rate on the hard cover if that's what you like. And then best way to get your newsletter. Best way to get the newsletter is on the website, sawhillbloom.com slash newsletter. Okay. Out of your five, it was interesting to me that I really tied to your social side of things because I so agree. Again, remember, I have a biblical background. So you reap what you sow. You said this in an interview, if you're not like being kind to people in your 20s and your 30s and showing up for them, why would you think they're going to be there for you in your 60s? That's the dog on truth. So many people that become 60, 70, 80, 90 and find themselves without a community, they never sowed into the community. So give me a little bit in this seven minutes that we have on the social life and why that's so important to the society and for us as human beings. Well, first the problem. We are living through a massive loneliness epidemic. The statistics on this are damning teenagers in the United States are spending 70% less time in person with their friends than they were two decades ago, partying in the United States defined as people going out to spend time with others is down 90% in the last few decades. We are losing our ability to truly spend time and build relationships in that meaningful way. That is damning for very clear scientific reasons, which is that loneliness is worse for your health than smoking or drinking or a lot of other negative habits. It actually leads to your demise. We have robust scientific evidence to support the fact that your relationships are what lead to the long, healthy, happy life that we all want. The Harvard study of adult development, they followed the lives of 2,000 people over the course of 85 years. They found that the single greatest predictor of physical health at age 80 was relationships satisfaction at age 50. How you felt about your relationships was what determined how well and how happily you age. What better reason do we need to invest in those relationships on a daily basis? Unfortunately, relationships are the first thing that fall by the wayside when we get busy. Life comes, chaos hits, and we stop sending the text to that friend. We stop getting together with our mom for that walk. We don't get together with our sibling. We don't get the old group of friends together for the annual trip. The first thing we drop the ball on, when in fact, it should be the first thing that we maintain if we're focused on building this great life. So the mindset shift that I want people to have when they read this or when they just hear me speak is to recognize that an investment in your relationships compounds the exact same way as an investment in your money. We know that putting away $50 or $100 today is better than zero because it's going to stack and compound and grow into your future. Exact same principle applies to relationships. The tiny thing done today is going to stack and compound into the future. It doesn't have to be grandiose. You don't have to go spend hours with someone. Send the text, make the phone call, get together for the coffee date, do the tiny thing today, and you're going to benefit from it for years and years to come. Ladies and gentlemen, Sahil Blum. Sahil, give me one thing you liked about this interview. I really love getting to spend time with selfishly people that I've admired for a long time. It is one of the great joys of my life that I now have the privilege of getting to spend time with people that I've been following and listening to for many, many years. And so this was a real treat for me and I hope we get to do it in person soon. Yeah, that was nice. I didn't expect that answer. But thank you for that. But also for those that want you to speak because you're a great speaker and a lot of speakers follow me for some reason and a lot of people who have big events follow me. If they want you to speak, where's the best place to take them? You can either email me, which is just Sahil at SahilBloom.com or there's a website, SahilBloom.com slash speaking. You can find more info and get in touch that way. Thank you for being you. I'm glad that you played at Stanford, but I'm glad you didn't go to like the angels or the blue jays or somewhere else because maybe you wouldn't be doing what you're doing right now. You're on fire right now. You really got me thinking and even shifting some things up in the way I'm going to coach people and look at life. So I'm appreciating your journey. So guys, keep on watching the miracle mentality or listening to it. Thank you for liking, subscribing and sharing. Make sure and follow my guest, SahilBloom. You guys, I get to talk to a lot of amazing people. This guy is brilliant and he's curious. So he's going to escalate his brilliance. Life is good. Don't ever put yourself down. You may not be what you want to be, but thank God you're not what you used to be. See you next time. Bye-bye. Thank you for sharing space with me on this episode of Miracle mentality with Tim Story. If today sparked your courage or helped you understand why you're created for success, I invite you to carry that Miracle mentality forward. Visit me at TimStory.com. That story with an e-y on the end. Until next time, walk by faith, embrace possibility and create your own comeback story.