Ep 77: Swinger Thanksgiving: Celebrating 2 Wild Years in the Lifestyle

Find us at vanilla swingers.com and you'll find Kat's only fans page there too. You wish. Hey Kat. Yeah Leo. I'm going to record one of those silly disclaimers that you put at the beginning of the podcast. Real advisory sticker. Let's go because this is going to be explicit. Oh yeah we're going to talk about lots of sex. Lots of bad language. We might even have sex on the podcast. We might have. Listening to the noise of our love making. There might be nudity. But you can't see it on the podcast. Doesn't matter. You can hear it. You can hear the nudity. We might corrupt you if you're under the age of 18. That's the disclaimer. Don't listen. We're not professional. What else? And yeah we're not professionals. We know nothing. Absolutely nothing. And if you want to try to sue us? Well we don't have any money either. Because this is bite-size and commercial free. We're not trying to make any money. It's fun. So you like it. And tune in and listen. Subscribe. Word. Hi it's Kat. What you doing tonight Kat? I'm potting with you. You feeling good tonight? I'm feeling so good. No explanation huh? No. You know we were talking earlier tonight over dinner that we should go to the big island of Hawaii. Etsy Pablo sex bar. It's like goodnight to the bad guy. Yeah. We're going to do that. We're going to bring a Pouche if she wants to come. Okay. We should do that though because every time we're in the lifestyle we talk about doing new adventures. We like going to new places. Like we might go to Club Provada in the new year. We've got some Arizona possibilities being thrown out there. So we might end up in Arizona. You talking about with Pouche? Yeah she invited us on a work trip because she said she'd always wanted to have a lover kind of join her on a work trip. So she thought what's better than one lover but two lovers. Yeah that sounds pretty hot. I thought that we should meet her in the hotel bar and pretend like we don't know her. You talking about one of those scenes from one of your romance novels where the guy walks into the bar starts hitting on the girl in front of another guy and then they walk away at the end and turns out they're married. Yeah I would like to do that. I think that would be really hot. But she wants to introduce us to all her colleagues so I'm not sure that whole like stranger. You think that's what she wants to do? It's actually introduce us to work colleagues? Yeah she says she did. She says we have to come up with a really good story though because I don't think they know who we are. Oh that's real hot. Like who we are. You know little air quotes there. That's going to get you fired. I don't even know what she does exactly. Because we know a lot about her but you know we don't always talk real life. Let me write up there with taking a trip to meet some of Boucher's family. Allow myself to introduce myself. Like a parent or something. This is my Italian confidential secretary. Her name is Alotta. Alotta Fagina. She actually was visiting family over the summer and wished we were there. That would have been cool. Yeah that would have been hot. So yeah so Arizona in the new year. Now we're thinking Hawaii. And of course we've got Vegas coming up in January. But you know Pablo sex bar and Mrs. Pablo sex bar. Them some good people. And we got to see them because it's been a hot minute. What since the Bliss Cruise. We haven't seen them since the Bliss Cruise and that was last April when they got taken for thousands of dollars for smuggling some weed cookies. Yeah but they took one for the team because they went ahead and they put out the all points bulletin. The APB. To let you know. Brigger, brigger. How to smuggle. Safely. Because if you want to know how to smuggle. Smuggle contraband on board. It was smuggling other stuff too. And speaking of bliss. Uh huh. They just wrapped up a November Bliss Cruise. Which we did not go on and for the first time ever Leo had no FOMO. Yeah I don't have any FOMO at all. You know when we first started with Bliss I never thought of ourselves as cruisers. That just seemed like something my parents would do playing like shuffleboard on the top deck. But then we went on them and we ended up going on three because they were that good. And we just couldn't say no. We FOMO was setting in. We never missed one. This is the first one we've missed. And we know a ton of people on board. So from a social standpoint it's an 11 out of 10. But if we had to be honest with ourselves we don't always find the sexy fun we're looking for which I know is shocking when there's 3,000 people on board. Part of it is because we do the double helix. They're like threesomes. Threesomes are the goat. Alternating between MFMs and MFFs. So I was interested in reading about it. I actually looked it up. I saw some Reddit posts about it. What's the sauce on the November Bliss? And there were a couple of things that I found interesting. They had some photographers on board. Ooh. Yeah. And it was a big snafu. And they have now promised they will have no photographers on their future sailings. It was a kind of a bit of a... You know, it's the kind of thing where you can be real uptight about it. Or you can be laid back. Just the sort of subject of cameras. People pulling their phones out if you're in a club. Some people get really nervous. Right. We pull it out often because maybe we're texting some hot date later. We're never trying to... Oh, let me take a photograph of somebody. Everybody for the most part really respects people's privacy. I still remember the first time on Bliss when we jumped in somebody's photo to photo bomb. Smile, you son of a... And then we realized that was stupid. And because... We had to go track them down. Yeah, because they were going to post it on like Instagram or Facebook. And we're like, oh, please don't do that. So what's your opinion on texting etiquette as it pertains to the dreaded double text? You know what I'm talking about. You text somebody. Oh, and they don't come back. Boop, boop. The ping pong. It's like pong pong instead of ping pong. That's right. And then do you go ahead and say, hello, that's that dreaded double text? I really like Telegram and WhatsApp because you can delete it for all parties. And so... Yeah, you do that a lot. I have a little bit of a sexting kink going on. And if I write to one of my guys and he hasn't checked it in about eight hours, I'm going to go delete and for the record know it existed. I don't like your sexting kink. I know you don't. I tolerate it. I know, but it's they're nice guys. But I tolerate it for you. We're going to have a whole sexting kink. If it starts raining men though, we're calling the whole sexting kink off. I only have three. They're really respectful. Yeah, they are. And I tell you all about it and I tell you what's going on and they're all above board. Yeah, I always have like a proverbial eye roll when it comes to that. But I tell you what, you know, we're potting. We're not even potting. We haven't been potting or playing. We've been in family mouse room. So we have had to kind of be like a turtle and hide. Keep things low key. Yeah, because we can get away with that with children, but our extended family when they're around, yeah, we can't get away with what we get away with like a cold pool. Yes, or in a cock cage. Do they hide too? See, I don't get that cock cage. That just seems OK. Is that me yucking somebody's young? Probably. I saw a picture of one the other day. I was on a blog and I saw the cock cage. That's what it was like. And it looks a little painful because you cannot get hard in it. How come you don't have like a pussy cage? They have some of those. It's called Chastity Belt. That's true. So it's a Chastity Belt for men. Yes. Yeah, see, I'm just not down with the Chastity Belt for men thing in the first place. So have you ever seen one? I'm the kind of guy where people will say I'm the sect of me safe. I'm going to repopulate the entire world in the event of a new Holocaust apocalypse. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, I know. If it's me, you and all the women left in the world on a deserted island. We are going to repopulate. And so if it's me, you and all the men left. What the segment? Wait a minute. Fair is fair, Leo. I'm not sure I was paying close enough attention there. So I'm not signing anything. Well, fair is fair. So if I have to side of the dotted line, you got to side of the dotted line. I get to choose out of all the guys on the island only the ones I want. But if I'm the only girl. Now, what's your philosophy when it comes to texting? Do you just write out a novel or do you bring it up? Like one sentence at a time. Oh, I'm a novel kind of person. Okay. Now, see, the people who are the most annoying- Oh, the boob- The ones who absolutely. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Yeah, you're like, why can't all that go in the same time? One ding. I don't get it. I heard somebody was saying that they actually do the dings on purpose by breaking it up because if they ding you like three or four times in a row. They'll get your attention? It's like an emergency call to get your attention. Maybe I need to start doing that then. I think that's pretty fucked up. I mean, if you do that, I'll probably put you on silence. I would say the younger they are, they do that. So the 20-year-olds do that ding, ding, ding. A stream of consciousness. Yeah. It is 20 because. People that aren't 20. We think a little harder. We got some people on our phone. It's funny because you can actually go through our contacts list late at night and see who's got their notifications. Get into bed by 9 p.m. I just put the phone in another room and then it's silent for me. So that works. So we're going to talk about what we got up to last. Hit me. Well, this isn't our topic. Well, first of all, we are taking the first break in the action in 18 months straight. And I don't like it at all. That's fair. Do you like it? I mean, it is nice not to have to. OK, you know, let me get dressed. Let me put on makeup because I've decided I'm just not going to shave. I feel pretty. I'm just going to be all natural. OK. We're skipping right ahead to that deserted island. We were talking about, I see. We Tarzan, you Jay. Well, you said I know you like hair and you like it natural. So I'm like, if we're not playing right now, I decide I've got to grow hair until we play again. Yeah. Well, to all the people we play with, that's my plan. You know who you are out there. Make sure you grow it out for me because I love, love, love it. Well, hopefully you love mine. So Leo and I are getting to know each other really, really well. What is that supposed to mean? We have playing a lot more by ourselves. Is that one of those COVID lockdown things? How about when people used to say that they didn't spend much time around each other and all of a sudden they got locked down in COVID and there were divorces happening left and right because they were spending so much damn time together. I think a lot of people started swinging because of it. Let's have some variety. We spend 24 hours, seven days a week together. I know I'm sick of you. So COVID was nothing but a thing for us. It's true. I'm really not sick of you. Now, one of the byproducts of COVID is a lot of people hit the bottom. We know that for a fact. I was reading something today that said that alcohol use is down to the lowest it's been since the Gallup poll was taking statistics in 1939. You said that to me earlier today. And I don't really understand that. Is it because weed is legal in so many places and people are smoking now? I think they surmise that during COVID, a lot of people may have taken up a bit of a drinking problem. Oh, so there are now pulling back and unwinding it. And they said that despite weed legalization, that that really wasn't that wasn't the we're picking up another vice per se. It's just that they're getting cleaner. They're getting cleaner. All right. But that also leads to something else, which is Gen Z is having less sex. I have heard that too. What's wrong with you guys? Come on. I think it's a sexual because everybody hook up social media. Everybody has got their face in the phone. So they don't know how to converse anymore. They don't know how to have conversations and touch grass, touch strange genitals. Well, it goes back to that we were talking about with texting is you got people texting you 10 times in a row, a stream of consciousness, because they're too afraid to pick up the phone and talk to a human being. We're sorry you have reached a number that has been disconnected. That's true. And then also, of course, with all the dating apps. I mean, it's such a dumpster fire. I understand maybe why you're not having as much sex, which dovetails nicely into the whole drinking less. Because let's be honest, alcohol makes a pretty damn good social lubricant. Lubricant. That's a really nice word. And if we were all going out to parties instead of being at home on our phones all the time, there'd be a lot more sex going on. We'd probably be falling into bed a little bit more. All right. Just saying. Just saying. I'm coming up with a plan to get more people late. It's time to get late. It's time to get late. It's time to get late. Either that or join the lifestyle. And then you're definitely going to get laid. Yeah, I don't like the little bit of a break that we're being kind of forced to take, but we are OK with it because we have come out of our swinger moon. We are OK saying no to opportunities. I'm getting a little antsy. How about you? Well, I sex people, so I'm not as antsy as you are. You know, one of these times going to flip the script and you're going to be like, hey, honey, what are you doing over there? Oh, I'm over here texting. I keep it really above board. You're very generous. I'll let you have all the ladies on the island. OK. OK. And I won't even all the boys. I will sex all the boys. Yes. OK. There. See, let's do it. We have just come to terms. That's called boundary talk people. OK. Yeah. So Pablo sex of our slide into cats. The Ems. You still get laid when you go land on the island. Hawaii. Do they put the lay on you when you get off the plane? Last time we went, they laid us. Yeah. I want to get laid. We're going to be bringing pushers. So I hope so. This is you visualize again. He's not even mentioned this to her. In fact, the first time she hears about it will probably be when she listens to this pod. So that's true. Pushy. Pushy, call in. Let us know. I need you to Hawaii. On the air. We're going to be fun to do a live talk show. That would be so fun. That'd be wild. You wouldn't know who is coming in. Yeah. We should do that sometime. I like it. It's so fun. Yeah. We were talking about that the other day and how we ended up playing with some listeners, the Hottie Hojars, Tinkerbell and El Capitan. El Capitan. And we talked about how we love, love newbies. We love the newbie energy and we are definitely newbies through and through at heart. We have decided if we're going to play with other couples, they have to be newbies because that's just fun energy. And I think there's a fair number of people out there that listen to us. And when you hear us talk for a hundred hours about the most intimate stuff you can imagine and a lot of trust. You know a lot. You do know a lot. And so I think some people think, you know, you guys would be a pretty good fit for us. We want to try out some new things. And when we first started, I think we had this crazy notion that we do a separation of church and state. Right. We thought there's no way. We could play with anybody that listens to us. And so we won't even mention it to the people we play with, like complete separation. And then we realized that's all bullshit. The lifestyle is wild and crazy and full of adventures. It's messy and it's a choose your own adventure. And so our adventure, part of our adventure has become the pod. We've had people shooting their shot. And it turns out that I foresee in the future, a number of our play opportunities coming from listeners. So if you think we're speaking to you, shoot your shot. Can't hurt to shoot. If you think that we make a good choice for a first time experience, oh, my God, you'd probably be right. We're a lot of fun. That was a lot of fun. We are a little extra. Well, we are extra. We're a little wild, but we're also pretty emotionally intelligent people. Well, I mean, we played with people who had a no kissing rule and we're like, OK, totally cool. We don't need to kiss. We are going to go at the speed of whoever we're playing with. We talked about telling before we headed upstairs that if for any reason, at any time you change your mind, because we always know that in your mind, you feel pressure. Oh, I'm in their hotel room. They're expecting something out of me. No, it's not like that at all. If you change your mind and you get up to our hotel room, I would actually be like more power to you or kind of speaking your mind and owning your feelings. Nice. So our DMs are open. Is that what you're saying? Our DMs are open. Always. I'm not as great at writing back immediately, but I do always write back. So what are we talking about tonight? Well, it's Thanksgiving week. And so I thought it would be timely for us to talk about the things we're thankful for. Gobble, gobble, gobble. Things we're thankful for. Swinger edition. What do you think about frying a turkey? You ever see to put in a fryer? I have. I've not tasted it, but I have seen that. I feel it with oil. It's got like a burner underneath it. And then when you put that turkey in, sometimes it overflows. The oil hits the open flame. I've not seen that. That seems like a total guy thing to do. Yeah, that totally seems like a guy thing to do. OK, honey, I'll take care of the turkey this year. Our oven's broken this year. So we're going to have to what? Microwave a turkey? We're going to have Chinese food. Oh, you ready? Go. Things we're thankful for in lifestyle. No particular order. I am first and foremost thankful for all the strange. He's so funny. That's not all my list, honey. OK, first and foremost, I am thankful for you. Because you make the most amazing partner. Am I a good wing woman? You broke your next level. You are absolutely off the charts. Wing girl, you are the unicorn whisperer. You are the newbie. You're actually a really great wing man for me. You're getting so much better. You're not scaring all the guys away. I do my best. I'm really appreciating it. But that wasn't on my list of things I'm thankful for. So you're going to tell me the list. I thought there's like family feud. I was just going to guess. In a survey of 500 people, top five answers on the board. Survey says I'm thankful for Pussy Galore for her friendship and all the sexy fun we have. That's a good one. Tink, tink, tink, tink. I think that's the top one, isn't it? Yeah. Well, you're right, because that one is so much more. I mean, it's a throuple. And it's so much more than just the play that takes place. I think it's been going on like six months now, not including the first time we met her in January. Well, I mean, in the last pod, we were talking pretty candidly. Talking about the Swinger Moon ebbing and how we are now coming in for a landing and we're not like chickens with our heads cut off anymore. But we also talked some brass tacks about sort of a retrospective of what we've done so far in the lifestyle. And I think we debated on whether to keep that in there. I think initially we thought that would end up on the cutting room floor, but we left it in. And, you know, sometimes you have play partners and they hear things right, these aren't things necessarily you would talk about in person because E&M is complicated. People get jealous. You don't necessarily we're not kitchen table Polly. But when feelings get involved, it's natural that you have feelings of jealousy. We have feelings of jealousy. But with her, it's so much more than just sexy fun. It's the friendship. Well, the last time we saw her, she took us to a live kind of Cirque du Soleil type of performance up in San Francisco. And it was so awesome. Yeah, that was next level fun. It was so urban. It was so San Francisco and felt like it'd be more at home in New York City. And we had never heard of it and it was fantastic. It was sexy and all the guys had porn stashes and I was like, oh, that's so hot eyeballing them for later in the evening. I know, right? She was trying to get some digits before we got porn stashes. I got shy guy. He was back from June. That was a blast from the past. He lives nearby ish. And so we might even have a repeat number three. Pretty exciting. Seems like a really good dude. He was really he was even cuter than the first time we saw him. And I already thought he was really cute. Oh, yeah. And he has a porn stash. Some girls don't like the porn stash. I know you like the porn stash. Really like the porn stash. Yeah. Moon being my screen taking off your blue jeans. Does he have a porn stash? Sure. This is Boone has a porn stash. I didn't know that. So hot. Mystical. Magical. I did not know we had a porn stash. So I'm going to go check that out. If he goes down on you with that porn stash, does he come up with like a little milk mustache? Well, right now it's going to mingle with the hair that I'm growing. So it's just going to all be. You might get tangled up. We might get stuck. We might get stuck together. It's like when you're a kid, you're doing like one of those braces kisses. You ever do one of those? No. Yes. Actually, I did because I had braces. Do you ever get a lock? I actually wasn't thinking. I was actually not listening to you. My brain was somewhere else. You better pay attention. This is going to be on the test. When I answered no, I had no idea what you just said. But yes, yes, I did kiss somebody. I never got locked together. Did you? No, is that like in? I mean, you kissed a lot of people. A Christmas story where he puts his tongue. Yeah, I never did that either. I think my tongue gets stupid. Paul, that's dumb. That's just. What would you do if you got locked lit with braces? I just call you honey, help me. OK, that was a sentence I didn't need to. You're talking about call me. You fix everything. You're my fixer. If I have a problem, you fix it. Now I'm like an E and M fixer. Whatever. I'm unlocking your braces from somebody else. Whatever. I don't have braces, so you're not going to unlock anything. Well, if I go down on a girl who's really frigid and I ever get my tongue frozen. To her. I'm going to pour some warm water. Come over and you help me out. I will. So if I get a number three with Shy Guy, you guys will be the first to know because I have had a two feet a few times. Never had a three feet because guys suck. Yeah, guys do suck. So I'm also thankful for that crazy couple up north that popped our cherry. Our friends north of the border. You're talking about the Canadian Hottie Hochers. I am because they were a really great first couple for us. Yeah, they were a perfect first couple for us. And you know what we never got to tell you guys about is for two weeks after Tinkerbell would send us about 15 videos a day just talking to us. She decided I'm not going to text you anymore. I'm just going to talk and just send it to you. It was like she was on the other end with a mountain of blow. And she was just snorting line after line after line every morning shooting off videos one after the other. Every morning we'd lay in bed. Hey, look, Tinkerbell wrote again. And we'd sit and watch them together. And she would just wax about her feelings about E&M. She'd wax about our night together. She'd wax about when can we see you again? And it was aftercare on crack. Yeah, she was like Scarface. What the fuck is wrong with this guy? Am I getting me a lot? And that mountain of blow was new relationship energy. They had the most new relationship energy I've ever seen, which I mean, I guess we had that but we didn't jump full bore like that. Well, I think when you're newbies and you go from zero all the way to full. I think they went to like 150 miles per hour. Like, you know, you were definitely breaking some speed limits there. Yeah, you get shot out of a cannon into the stratosphere and it's hard to get your feet back on the ground. And we were there for it. But we know that any other couple that we played with or will play with, we'll never get that kind of aftercare because nobody does that. Yeah, that was one of a kind. And so it was really special for us for it to be our first popping our cherry. Which is one of the reasons why we say that I think going forward, as it pertains to couples, we are probably going to only play with newbie couples like that. It's not going to be a frequent occurrence. No, because the four way connection is still difficult because of me, I am the problem. And I know that. You sound like you're at a 12 step program meeting. I am. Hi, my name is Kat. I love guys under the age of 30 with porn stuff. One of them actually said he was going to call me mommy. What, the sigma? What? And I said, I am not old enough to be your mother, but maybe I'm like your really hot step mom. And I think he told me that I had mommy milkers. Now he hasn't seen him yet because I'm really circumspect with what I show. I just mentioned, you know, what size I was. Well, see, you have really nice tits. I think of mommy milkers. I picture like, Get back here. What the hell is wrong with you? A mom that has like one of those grandma bags with like, With her boob hanging over her shoulder. It's almost like a David Copperfield. You open up the bag and you can like pull an assistant out of the bag. Yes, Mary Poppin style. Which is actually funny because Holly Hozier, she brought one of those bags over to our hotel room and it was filled with Mini ducks. So much in there. And at one point we actually dumped it upside down. I don't know what we were looking for. That was such a mistake. She must have had like 25 little mini itty bitty ducks. I don't even know why she has ducks. I said, is it because you don't... Did you say 25? I don't know. I think she had 25 for a square inch. And we took a bunch because that was part of our memorabilia. And I said, she never explained why she had them. I said, is this because you don't give a fuck? And so you've got all these ducks. You know how glitter shows up in hiding places? You didn't expect days later. Yeah, we are still finding those ducks. That was these ducks. They're little. They're like tiny. Like I don't know, a half an inch. Not even... And whereas I go around and I don't have anything. I'm like, Leo, you got a pocket? Hold my crap. That's it. I bring nothing with me. Yeah, we definitely travel light. Audio's just, she looked like she was coming over for a sleepover for a week. I don't know how she smuggled that thing south of the border. But I'm thankful for the couple who actually looks like their profile picture. I'm not really sure what to say about that. I mean, honestly, I don't like to be surprised. Not very many people do. I know. I'm going to just say that. We do. Not many people do. The photo, we show people, we look just like the photo. But you know, at the same token... You get it. It is human nature. You do want to present yourself in the best possible light. And even on the dating apps, isn't that what people are doing? Yes. They're taking these curated photos because dating is hard enough as it is. It's true. And you know that especially on an app, you're going to get swipe left on if you don't have just the right photo up. So much of dating and so much of the lifestyle in general is looks-based. And that is... Unless you go to a swan club and it's not like that at all because then your personality can absolutely show and shine. But for the sake of what you're talking about. Yeah. You're talking about a two-dimensional profile. It is the dirty little secret that so much of the lifestyle is looks-based. So much of the dating apps is looks-based. And so rule number one, be attractive. Rule number two. Don't be unattractive. And so therefore you're going to curate in order to be number one and number two as best you can. Yeah. So I don't totally fault people unless they're going out of their way to have photos that are 10 years too old. And if you want to know all the red flags to look for in that department, check out podcast episodes 57 and 60. We talked about Cassidy. We talked about Field. I think we give a lot of good advice on... Profile pictures and red flags. I am thankful for Uber drivers who don't ask questions, especially when cats in her sparkly heels at like 7 a.m. in the morning. Yeah. But when are we going to have sex in a waymo? That's what I want to know. There's the Zoix Vegas as well. You think it's pronounced... Zoix? Oh no, I think so. Is it really Zoix? Darn you kids! I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you. Roar, roar. What was up with that? I don't know if that was a very good impression. It's more like... It was really good. Maybe it's a really great live action movie as Scooby-Doo. That's pretty cute though. I'll let that one slide. I really don't handle accents well. Okay, you know that. What was up with that was Scooby-Doo, every single time at the end, it was one of the people wearing a mask. Yes. Did they not get that after a while? No. It's one of these people that we're talking to. He's going to be wearing a mask later. You know, speaking of accents, I am thankful for guys that have foreign accents. Yeah. And we need to find somebody with an Aussie accent. Oh my God. That's been way easier to find than it is. One of my sexting buddies has a South African accent. Yeah, it's kind of a British accent. And it's hot. He did some audio messages for me. There's that sexting cake again. I'll tell you what I'm not thankful for. What? What would that be? Your sexting cake, Kat. What am I not thankful for, Leo? That you're a man whore? No, I think you're adorable. You're very selective. You know, back in the day... You were a man whore. You mean before you met me. Didn't they use to charge for texting, like buy the texts? I think they might have. That was back before you had the iPhone, you know, where you had to kind of go do-do-do ABC. Oh, I see, like a Blackberry or something? Yeah, no, no, no. You had to press a button three times to get to your letter? Yeah, that. Yeah, that. Like, oh, the flip phones. Flip phones did that. See, I wish they charged per text. And then I wouldn't do it as often. Yeah, then you couldn't have your sexting cake. Whatever. We're going to do a whole pot about sexting. You'd have to say everything you say in a novel back and forth, like a message in a bottle. I'm thankful for you surviving the flip. Yeah, well, I don't know if I'd call it surviving the flip. That's a little dramatic. Okay, I'm glad you've got past it. Before we ever got in the lifestyle. Like before we started kind of amping up our sexy fun on our own, like way, way, way back. No, with other people. Okay, so we were already kind of messing around Red Light District, all that. I've told you before, we're not very E&M, we're very monogamous. We're pretty possessive. When we really like something, we usually want to covet. We don't necessarily want to share. It is one of our fatal flaws. It is, and it is a fatal flaw. And we actively admit it. There's nothing we can do about it. And it's a sliding scale because it doesn't pertain to everybody, but sometimes you get into a situation ship that becomes more serious. And then yeah, it gradually trends in that direction. Before we got into the lifestyle, I was very much overprotective of you. Maybe that's why I feel like I'm a little off my leash. It's so much fun because... You were never on a leash. Well, kinda. I really love the phrasing of that. It makes me have to be like I'm a controlling... I'm not like that. I'm barely back. No, you're not like that at all, but you're just a normal husband. And it's just so freeing that I can say actively, hey, he's really cute. Wow, look. I like that you say I'm a normal husband because I think that my behavior is just traditional. It's that you love me and you want me to love you and not have eyes for other men. And so the flip was just sort of an extension of that. You know, it was a little bit of a learning curve. The first time somebody flips your wife over when you walk out of the room for 10 seconds to prepare for a DP. And then there is no available DP spots when you get back. I read some Littorotica. Them's fight and work. In a bath yesterday, I discovered Littorotica. And they have all these short stories. So since I'm not having any MFMs right now, although Shy Guy was not that long ago, I'm just a self-imposed family crisis. A family crisis. That's a crisis because we can't play. You're having like a crisis of faith right now. It's a crisis of non-play. I found this really great website that has all these sex positions, 36 sex positions you have to try. And it's just for two people. And so I've decided if we're not playing with other people, every single night we're gonna try one of these positions. We're gonna knock them off the list, 36 nights in a row. I'm so excited. We'll start with that tonight. 36 sex position. Are we gonna do that 36 nights in a row? Yes. Man. This sounds like when you're trying to conceive a baby. You can't keep up with me. Come on. Checking to see if you're ovulating at that time of the month. I mean, unless you wanna do two in one night and then it could spread out a little longer. Well, maybe if we added an extra person in the bedroom, we could just tear right through these 36. We have family around and we cannot get out. I saw a position that I like, and I know we've done it before, but I just don't remember the last time we've done it. But to have a threesome with another gal. I'm thankful for threesome. Oh, I am very thankful for threesome. Yeah, that should be right up at the top. They're so fun. Without which, I don't think we'd have half as much fun in our lifestyle journey, especially the way we've been speed running our way through. Yeah, we would not have been having as much fun at all. But this sex position is an MFF. Uh-huh, always. Our guest of honor for the evening is actually on her back in missionary position, and she's got her legs up in the air. I'm inside of her and you're sitting on her face and you're holding her ankles. Which way am I facing? You're facing me. Could I kiss you? I'm facing you. And I'm holding her ankles. You're sitting on her face. And she's got her mouth on me. So we're like a triangle. I like that. I don't remember ever doing that. A love triangle. I've never done that. Yeah. I've never held their legs. How come I have a recollection of doing it then? I mean, I might have sat on someone's face while you were inside, but I don't remember holding legs. Oh, okay. So that would be the distinction. Yeah. Yeah, well, I like that. Semantics. See, I think that should be called the Eiffel Tower. Or should have a fun name. Yeah, because you do create a bit of a triangle. Because the notion that it's basically a spit roast. And the two guys. And the high five. That's kind of lame. Another one of our favorite positions could be also considered an Eiffel Tower in the sense that it's a triangle. It would be you laying on your back and one girl riding you cowgirl and the other girl on your face. Yeah, we do that all the time. And we're facing each other and we're kissing. Hell yeah. We've been doing that since Lana. I'm thankful for that position. And that is really hot. It's the goat. It is so hot. And then of course the girls change positions. And I'm just like, really, really, really, really hot. Oh, you're right now. You know, right? Okay. We're gonna add that as our 37th position. I'm thankful for BYOB in Swinger Clubs. Yeah, that's kind of a cool feature of the lifestyle. Isn't that fire? It really is. Because so many businesses rely on the margins in liquor sales. And the fact that somehow, some way, they managed to survive without bleeding all of us Cheapskate lifestyles dry. Because you know, you might kind of hem and haul. I don't want to spend $80 or $100 to go out on a Saturday night as a couple to the Swinger Club. Are you forgetting how much damn money you spend if you have to go to like Vegas and you're buying your drinks? Drinks are so expensive. Didn't we start by talking about the Bliss Cruise? And that's one of those- We smuggle our own booze on, of course. Where you can pay $1,700. It's between $1,200 and $1,700 depending on how many days your cruise is. For the drink package. It's a lot. I'd be absolutely like block out drunk the whole time. And you said we probably spent 20 grand on Bliss Cruises. Oh my God. I mean, that's why we don't have a second car, honey. That's awful. We don't have plans- Just let me know. For another Bliss right now. We'll probably go on the November 2026 cruise. And I think that'll probably be our finale. Because Bliss is just too expensive for us. And it's difficult to get away for that long. And there's so many things we want to do. You know, one of the other things is that after you go to like a naughty in New Orleans which is a third of the price. And we talked about it before that you can find your sexy fun from different places. It could be New Orleans. It could be the apps. It could be field. You could go to Colette. It could be Colette, Colette's. It could be the plus one guys. Yeah, I guess it could be the plus one guys. But when it comes to Bliss, the pool that you can pull from is just the people on the boat. And you know, one of the things is that a lot of our friends that we saw again from the Bliss crews in New Orleans, a lot of them said, yeah, we're probably not gonna go back on the Bliss crews. And a lot of people we met at last, like November's Bliss, they said this is the last one we're going on. We heard that a lot. And I think a lot of those people were talking about in New Orleans. They're the 40 in under crowd. They're a little bit younger side. And the bottom line is that Bliss crews does skew older. And the reason why it's really twofold. It's expensive. And you have to get away for such a long time. It behooves you being older and you're empty nesters. Not having young children. And I think that no matter how hard they try, I think that Bliss is always going to trend in that direction. So we've already decided that Bliss is gonna be fantastic for us when we're in our fifties and sixties and we're still going strong in the lifestyle. What, are we gonna be playing some shuffleboards? Is that what you're saying? Yes, you got it. We're gonna be bumping grapehubes. We'll be like raisins in the sun. And the only way to reverse that trend is if they made it cheaper. And I don't think they're gonna be doing that anytime soon. I don't think they can. You have like temptation cruises and- They're cheaper. They're cheaper, so they attract a younger crowd. We do plan to try that at some point. You wanna go next year? We could do that. It's in April. Yeah, why not? It's on my calendar. I have a sus calendar. And it's all the possible places that we could go. So you're like, oh, I know purgatory is here. I know this is here. And I have them in my mind to see what we can manage. What else are we thankful for? I'm thankful for Swinger Friends to talk spicy with. What's your feeling though, that when the sexy fun stops, does the friendship end? Yes. I agree. I mean, that's been our experience. Our anecdotal evidence has shown that you lose touch very quickly once the sexy fun- Unless you intermingle and co-mingle your vanilla life with your spicy friends, like your kids meet each other, then maybe you stay friends, but we keep it very separate. Yeah, that's based. So therefore, yeah, I think once the sexy fun ebbs, so does the friendship. I actually feel that that's one of the sad parts of the lifestyle. I always thought it would be wonderful to have these friendships that just spanned years. And we feel like we're capable of that. But for some reason, it just doesn't seem to work out. And we haven't quite figured out why yet. I think because everybody has their vanilla lives. And they're busy. And they have a finite amount of time. For spicy fun. And they prioritize the ones where sexy fun is evolved. And I think we're seeing that a little bit with the pod, because we get so many people that contact us and want to take us out for drinks or dinner just to kind of talk to us and get to know us. And even saying, no play on the table, but at the end of the day, we also only have so much time. I'm thankful for the pod. I'm thankful that you're out here doing the pod with me. That's cause you know I'm lazy. I know, I know. I love the pod. It makes me really happy. If we're not gonna play, I really like it. I am thankful for the pod, even though it's a shit ton of work to produce one of these. It is making our lifestyle experience so much richer than it ever would have been. Yeah, Pablo sexabar was the first person to ever say jokingly that I am wise to you guys. You're using. You plan the long game by doing a podcast because you know that it will give you all these crazy wild adventures. And at the time we're like, I don't know what you're talking about. We started it just for fun. We really thought we'd quit by 10. Well, we probably had 10 listeners at the time. And yes, he was way ahead of the curve to say that. And we have now so many play opportunities or events to attend have come because of the pod at this point. It's gotten us into more high jinx. I love that word. I knew you were gonna say high jinx. Then the Scooby-Doo gang. Is that what they're called? A Scooby-Doo gang? Rut road. The mystery van. It was the mystery van. Oh, that's so hot. That'd be kind of a bucket list. Anybody got a mystery van out there? I really want to get it on in like a mystery van or a camper van. Okay. For sure. I got a lot. Still on my bucket list. We should go camping with a poker. We should do another bucket list, pod, and actually talk about the things you and I want to do. Yeah, we probably have some different bucket list from the last time we did it. We're gonna do that next. Okay. We're gonna do a bucket list, what Kat and Leo actually want to do. Yeah, you have to go real degenerate now. So she done most everything. I am innocent, okay? Until proven guilty. Yeah, you're guilty as charged. I am thankful for European swingers for their dress code. To dress up like sexy cops. I have more than one sexy cop outfit. So I can make that happen. Let's do that. And we're going to have you outside your double wide with your just your jeans on. Like my meth lab. And we're gonna turn you around and we're gonna shuffle you behind your back. Oh my God, that'd be so hot. I like jeans just like moonbeam taking off your blue jeans. I really like jeans on the guy. Yeah, I know you do. And the line that goes down. Oh my God, I think you get undressed way too quickly during our threesome. I need to see more jeans and like opening it up and seeing a little hair. I need to see more moonbeam ice cream. Oh my God, what is moonbeam ice cream? Not every guy has those lines, by the way. I know. I think you're just spoiled. I know, I like guys that look like him. You should be thankful for the lines. Well, like he's got a smooth chest. And I'm like, yeah, I kind of like smooth chest. He's like, you kind of like me, honey. I know, I know. I could be Harry like Robin Williams. Was he Harry? Yeah. What do you think about Robin Williams? He was a really funny guy. He was a wonderful, wonderful soul. Captain my captain. Him, Mr. Rogers. And Stuart Scott. And Steve Irwin. Oh, I like Steve Irwin a lot. Yeah. I think somebody's called them the triumphant. Really? Like the trifecta of just kind souls? Yeah, yeah. Painting, fluffy little clouds. Oh my gosh, Bob Ross. He's probably fourth on the list, don't you think? Oh, he's so cool. Do you still have those Bob Ross socks that I got to you? I get you a Bob Ross chia pet. Those are the coolest. I've actually growing a Bob Ross chia pet. That's what he's saying. Tease him a little bit and then very lightly. Just caress him. Fluffy blue clouds. I'm just on strike. I'm not going to shave until we play. How many drugs do you think Bob Ross did? Must have done some drugs. Yeah, he looks like he's a psychedelic kind of guy. Yeah. He would have done anything hard. Yeah, he would have done like shrooms. He would have done like peyote. We know a lot of people that grow shrooms. That's because we know a lot of people in Denver and it's totally legal in Denver. And we have some people. Can we see them selling it on the street corner? And like, you know, one of those taco carts? You know, our selling shrooms, aren't they? That was weird. I know, where were we? I don't think I'd buy it out of a taco cart. We did see that. We were downtown at that Mockingbird. Yeah. Really, really, really cool bar. If you guys are ever in Denver, you've got to go to Mockingbird. Go downtown and go to the Mockingbird. That bar is dope as hell. In fact, that is what you should fashion a swinger club after the Mockingbird. 100 percent. If we ever opened a swinger club, it would look just like the Mockingbird. It has some Moroccan undertones. And every room is a slightly different theme with the sheer sheets covering. Gauzy. All the spaces. And the nooks and crannies. They're not sheets. They're curtains, honey. They have an Egyptian sarcophagus. Yeah, and like their Egyptian-themed room. You know, this king tut. I think it's like, what, five feet tall? Yeah, like his coffin. Looks like something. Probably you open it and there's, you know, little guy inside. It was super cool. I'm thankful for the Scarlet Ranch. What do you think about bucket list of a little guy? Is that what you... Little people. Can you call them a little guy? No, they're little people. That's not on my bucket list. What about a little gal? That's not on my bucket list. Is that politically incorrect? That is so politically incorrect. Why? I don't know. I mean, everything's on my bucket list, but I don't think that's politically correct. I feel like I've seen my fair share of sexy little guys. Well, especially when you are kind of in the porn adjacent, like we kind of... If we're going to have an entourage, we're going to have to have a little gal in our entourage. Who's sexy as hell? Because Scarlet Ranch was such a huge chapter in our lives that helped us go from our very first thrumple with Lana. And it opened us up to, wow, we can have threesomes like your hairs on fire. Yeah, it was a very important transition from going through, gosh, I mean, what would you call it? It was a full blown thrumple. And then going out into the wild and seeing that there is life after a thrumple. Because we... So we're in an area we're not crazy about our local club. And so we felt like that's a no-go. And then all of a sudden we found Denver and we had the backdrop of this amazing club with amazing people. And then we had the apps. And it was just like Kismet. Yeah, Denver was moonbeam ice cream. Because they were just... I would like guys to take off their blue jeans. Reigning men. Hallelujah. Unicorns, actually. Yeah. It really just opened our eyes that, you know, because when we first started and we had our first MFF with Lana, there was such a feeling of this is it. This is the only MFF we're ever going to have. And so all the time he's like, honey, don't fuck this up for me, okay? This is all I'm ever going to get. Don't fuck it up. Yeah, in the lifestyle, you're beaten over the head with a scarcity mindset. That unicorns are so rare. You're only going to find one if you ever... It may search for years and you might not find one. And so it felt like that. When we left the shore with our thropole, it felt like that might be it for a long, long time to come. And Denver showed us that it doesn't have to be that way. And I think, yeah, everything's kind of flowed down hill from there. So we've kind of shuttered that. And we're actually really excited about Club Joy down in LA now. That's like our new, thankful for that. Because I'm thankful for LA. I think there's a lot of possibility for us down there. I am thankful for all of the lovely, lovely girls in our life. All the unicorns. Yeah, because they are incredibly beautiful people inside and out. We have wonderful friendships with them. They are what keep me going since I don't... That's why I sext. Because I don't get that back and forth talking with any of the guys we play with. I have that with the friendships with all the unicorns. Yeah, without them, I don't think our lifestyle experience would be half as funny, either. And so they're right up at the top of the list. Right. I didn't say this was in order. Yeah. You know what I'm thankful for? What? Popeyes. Hell yeah, boy! OK, I get so many listeners that send me photos of themselves at Popeyes or at the drive-thru or with their sweet tea. And I love it. And I'm thankful for Popeyes because to me, it's synonymous with having sexy fun. That's true. Every time we go out of town, that's when we eat fast food. Popeyes. Las Vegas, Denver, LA, even going up to San Francisco, we stop off at Popeyes. But I don't eat Popeyes at home at all. Although we don't really eat fast food. We eat In-N-Out Burger and Popeyes, and that's it. But the Popeyes, the sweet tea, I actually salivate. I'm a little Pavlov's dog about it. If I drink sweet tea, I almost feel like some sexy fun. Sexy fun is right around the bend. Yes! Oh my God, yes! Now, they have to make sure that they clean out the filter on their sweet tea because there's nothing worse than going in order an extra large sweet tea and it just has that funny aftertaste to it. It's bitter. It's like bitter beer face. Yeah, you have to clean it out. And we haven't had sweet tea in like about, God, it's been like three weeks because I haven't had sexy fun in three weeks, which is why I have to do the 36 sex positions with Leo because I'm going to be playing with him. But the timing of it has been good because our swinger moon has come to a close. We're entering in a new phase. Can we know how to say no? We did not know how to say no. It is a more mature phase. I know, guys. I don't like to say that. I know, I don't either. I don't like it. But when I mentioned to him, do you know what we did one year ago? Like exactly one year ago. He was shocked that that was only a year ago. He's like, what? That should have been like two years ago. So I'm going to make a fart noise with my underarm pit. You can you do that? Like the fart eater? Let me see if I can do it. Let's see. I still got it. You and fart eater from Field, OK? You can't make me grow up. No, you not growed up. No. I am also thankful for Costco chocolate muffins. Oh, I blame you, Rolte. I blame you guys. She was doing just fine. I actually talked to the management at Costco and told them, don't carry those chocolate muffins no more. I know. I eat one a day. It's my breakfast. You are going to turn into a chocolate muffin. I really like Costco chocolate muffins. So I'm really thankful for them. Thanks a lot, Rolte. We got a full blown muffin addiction in our household. I am thankful for the man who invented red lighting. Hmm. Yeah. OK. The rave room lighting. The rave room lighting just like the red light district, which we got behind a red light district lady window. Why did we do that in the first place? That's the question is, why did we come up with the idea of the rave room in the first place? We were in Vegas having fun on our own and you wanted it to be wild in the room. I don't know. I remember going through Amazon's warehouse. We buying sex toys. Every sexy fun. Toy. Cootrement that we could get our hands on. Sex toys we have. And do you know that I've never bought a single one by myself? You know what? I know what it's from. What? It's from altered states. Yeah, because that's a Vegas thing. It started out with doing black lights. Then it progressed to red lights, black light tapestries. You know, we actually have a toilet light. It's awesome because you walk into the toilet and it's like it's motion censored. And so when you get close to the toilet, it starts glowing red. And it changes color over time. It just rotates. Who wants to turn the bathroom light on it? You're like, this is too bright. So yes, if you had a little too much to drink, it's a nice toilet light. And you're over at our place. You'll pop into the bathroom and you'll say. Oh, hey, look, there's a light in the toilet. That's us. We're extra. I'm thankful for naughty norlands. Oh, hell, yeah. Because that's the reason we don't have FOMO on the Bliss crews anymore because it used to be that the Bliss was the Super Bowl of the lifestyle. And it turns out that naughty norlands is the national championship. And you can like college football. We like college football. Even more than you like the NFL. We go into the Natty. We ain't going to the Super Bowl. And so as soon as we discovered that there was this magical event of naughty norlands, we were so skeptical. And by the way, we're bringing a contingent with us this year. The amount of people that we know that say they're going this year. We have turned. They're like, I booked naughty because of you. I say, hey, come to naughty. Meet us. We booked naughty. We booked naughty. There are a lot of people who we have turned pro naughty. And by the way, I hope you guys do appreciate that we don't do this for money. We don't do commercials. We don't do affiliate links. We could sell the hell out of naughty norlands packages. We could go on a Bliss cruise for free every single year, twice a year. Right. I still think we should, but Leo says no way. There's no way we're going to do it. After these messages, be right back. If you've been injured in a car accident, call the people's. Why should you let erectile dysfunction get you down? No, that's taking the body. And so hopefully you guys appreciate that we don't bore you with all those. So DM us and come meet us. We love meeting listeners. I'm thankful for vanilla friends still not figuring out what we do. Yeah, I wouldn't like that. No, we are pretty circumspect. Every time we have a lot of listeners that like to show like a screenshot of listening to us in their car and, you know, the vanilla swingers logo on the car dash and always just have to give the caveat. Make sure you turn the Bluetooth off before you leave the car. Don't get caught accidentally outed not directly, but inadvertently, indirectly other people that have had it playing on autoplay. And they say, what are the vanilla swingers? It's happened more than once. It's happened about a half a dozen times. But don't be that couple. Be careful. Turn off Bluetooth before you get in the car. You can't imagine what that's like when we get in the car and it tries to autoplay. It's a lot more sus. Mom or daddy's voice playing on the radio. Oh, my God. And you know that I get real fumbly when I know I'm doing something wrong, just like if someone was going to attack me coming to my car. So if Kat was going to try to disarm a bomb, she had the yellow wire, the green wire, the red wire. She does. Yake them all out. Boom. I blow everybody up. Yes. Kaboom. I am thankful for airline stewardess. I am thankful for airline stewardess, too. Want to get away? And we are looking forward to making plans with her in the new year where she said she'd meet us anywhere. So who knows where I pass me cross in the new year? Yeah, we're going to have some adventures for sure. And the first one is going to be at the Avian Awards. In Vegas, baby. I cannot wait to go to Vegas. I was actually just for no reason on the MGM site today, just looking up, fantasizing, wishing I could be in Vegas right now. I want to take a flight that she's the flight attendant on. That would be hot. That would be fun. I wonder if we could make that happen. Yeah, just she could just wait on us. Maybe in the back galley area, she could like cop a feel. You could cop a feel underneath like a skirt or something. That could be kind of that or she can wear her stewardess outfit in the bedroom. OK, OK, let's come with free peanuts. You got some nuts. That was a sham. Well, guy, he also did some kind of chopnut. What does it do? And he always used to say, you're going to love these nuts. Hi, it's Fitz with slap chop. You're going to love my nuts. Oh, my gosh. I heard he was running for Congress. Really? Yeah. He got into some foul play where he got arrested with a domestic dispute. You know, that reminds me of somebody else getting into a scandal. We watched a documentary on Eddie Murphy, Eddie Murphy. And we remember that he got into some kind of scandal back in the days. Eddie Murphy is not funny anymore. No, and we were watching it because I knew he'd gotten into a scandal. And I thought, well, this will be interesting because we had kind of remember hearing about that and they didn't even touch on it. Eddie Murphy at one time was the funniest man on the planet. And he's just gotten completely unfunny in the documentary, though. They neglected to mention that he got into was a stripper, a hooker. Yeah. And we watched the entire documentary and they didn't even mention it. Whereas we watched the whole Charlie Sheen documentary. He said, yeah, I fuck guys. Like he just flat out. He owned it. Charlie Sheen seems like a fun guy. He just owned it. He's like, whatever. He was partying with Nicholas Cage. Oh, my God, he was funny. You know, that makes me think of all the celebrities who have a famous mugshot. I'm trying to think who's got the best famous mugshot of all time. I'm thinking Frank Sinatra. He's got one where he's 23 years old and he's holding up the placard. Do you know that he got arrested in 1938 on a charge of seduction? I didn't know that was illegal. It basically means that he tricked a woman into sleeping with him on the promise of marriage. Oh, my gosh. Like what state was that in? Probably somewhere in the south. Oh, my God, that's hilarious. He probably still got that law on the book. Wow, seduction. I want to be arrested for seduction, honey. The best part was that the charges eventually got dropped when it was discovered that the woman was already married. So then it was just full on adultery. What the charge was and then that got dropped. Oh, my God, that's really funny. Yeah, he's got it. Wow, I like that. The most boss looking mugshot. Is he handsome? Oh, yeah. Would I like him? He's got a jawline that could cut glass. I would have slept with him. Seduction, adultery. I'm a seductress. For Matthew McConaughey, he got arrested for playing the bongos in the buff. Really? I think it was in Austin, Texas. Like indecent exposure. That is so awesome. So if you're going to get arrested, get arrested for doing something fun. Yeah, I think he has a little bit of weed on him or something. But I remember him saying, what's wrong with beating on your drums and your birthday suit? He's pretty cool. I have no regrets about the way I got there. I love that. Oh, my God. And then, of course, there's Willie Nelson. What he got arrested for? Mostly Maui, Maui, but it's got some Labrador in it. What's Labrador? It's dog shit. What do you think he got arrested for? A whole lot of weed. Do you know he's in his 90s? I think he's 92. OK, I did not know that. That man is defying all conventional logic. It says braids. The braids are keeping him alive. I was reading something the other day where they were talking about who are the best looking men in your country. You got any guesses? I like Ryan Gosling. Ryan Gosling would be Canadian. And you'd be right. He was in the category of the best looking man in Canada. Red Pit. And you know who else was their former prime minister, Justin Trudeau. Is he attractive? I guess he is pretty attractive. OK, I have to slide into his D.O.'s. I think he was dating somebody. I was almost like Katy Perry. OK, OK. In the United States, you've got Paul Newman. Yeah, OK. He was attractive in his day. That's a damn handsome man. And he makes a great salad dressing. He does. It's your favorite salad dressing. Marlon Brando. He was a good looking dude. Marlon Brando. We're not talking about Marlon Brando. Really? Why are they doing people from so way back? James Dean. James Dean was so handsome. Do you know what Malibu Richie-Rich reminds me of James Dean? Really? Wow, that's high praise. Yeah, I'm hoping to get him in our bedroom. Brings new meaning to the phrase dead man's curve, huh? Yeah, you got that right. Henry Cavill. Yeah, he's good looking. Woo. Now, curiously, there was no Elvis. And that's some bullshit. I think it's because Elvis for so long was unpeak Elvis that he kind of overshadowed his peak self. Peak Elvis was such a penny dropper. He was. Absolutely. That guy walked into a room. I wouldn't drop my panties. He would steal your girl seven days a week and twice on Sunday. What's your guess for Australia? Hugh Jackman. No. Chris Hemsworth. I just saw a picture of him. He is so hot. Oh, my God. He is definitely like a type. But if they just have that accident bed, you don't understand. I am. I am such a sucker for accents. How about Scotland? Oh, the guy that plays Outlander. Pusher. Pusher is a little. Sean Connery, huh? Yeah, Pete Sean Connery. I got a couple of interesting ones. Yeah, I'm thankful for LeMask, which was our very first Swinger Club. Yeah, OK, I like that. Because without that club, we wouldn't be where we are today, having the absolute time of our lives. That's true. Now, the irony of that is we've been back since a couple of times, actually. And when you go back, it felt like when you were a kid, you go to Disney and then you go back as an adult. And you're like, it's so small. And everything feels very different. And I'm thankful for that. The same way the second time we went back. Moment in time. Yes. And just kind of going there and breaking that almost like the fourth wall of like morality that we decided to go down into the lifestyle. Tearing the fabric of polite society. Yes, because we are absolutely having the time of our lives. I know. I'm thankful for the lifestyle. I'm thankful for how happy we are and how much joy it brings us and how connected we are and so much back in the day when we were going to Vegas and just having sexy fun between the two of us. This is pre-life style. You like to say sometimes when we're in altered states. Oh, yeah. That I feel like this is the most amazing feeling ever. Like we are in bed. OK, picture it. And we are probably coidally attached. And I am in so much absolute ecstatic bliss. I just feel like there's an extra gear somewhere. There's something more. There's something. Something more. That hasn't been invented yet. That's what she said. And then we discovered the lifestyle and we absolutely feel that was the extra that hadn't yet been invented yet. It had been and they've been doing it since key parties. We never heard of it. We never knew about it. It's been going on under our nose. I'm also thankful for a girl named Jennifer from Arizona who kissed me in Fadah, Morgana. Thank you, Jennifer. For my very first girl kiss. And I don't know what she looks like to this day. I'm thankful for girl stuff because I realized that that never gets old. You know, he loves it when I go down on another girl. He will come down and watch me. And he gets so much pleasure. I wish we could go down at the same time, which I know. I know. But sometimes I'm inside of you while you're going, you're being spit roasted and you're going down on her. Oh, and you're pounding away from behind. I would love to be attached to you while we both laugh. We should make that happen. We did have that happen with our couple swap. That was what was happening during one of the unicorn moments. Tinkerbell and El Capitan were going down on me at the same time. And we actually have a video of that because I think you took a video of it. And the two of them were almost like looking at each other in awe. Like they couldn't believe it. We're going to call that a unicorn moment. I think I was sitting there filming it. Well, it was a unicorn in the sense that you're not touching. You know, I thought that was one of the unicorn moments. I'm thankful for your voice. As are many of the listeners, sexy voice. Wow, that's sweet. Well, then I am thankful for your idioms. I'm going to make some lemons out of lemonade. You have the cutest. You're just like a trapeze artist reaching out for that last wrong. And then you go falling into the net every single time it comes to your idioms. You are the smartest girl with the worst idioms. And it's the cutest thing. And I'm totally here for it. And I mean, I'm thankful for you because I love you more than life itself. To me, the adventure of life just wouldn't be worth living without you. I just I couldn't live without you. We're absolutely icky sweet. Yeah, well, that's true. Yeah, I am totally thankful for you because without you in my life, I wouldn't be who I am today. You've made me stronger. You've made me more confident. You've made me more beautiful. You've made me a better nurture. You've made me a better person. Well, I'll tell you that a lot of the things that we do are chalked up to crazy adventures and just saying yes and having an appetite for risk. But you are a wonderful, wonderful wing girl because you say yes to some of the most harebrained ideas that we have no business doing. And we're talking vanilla life. He has had some harebrained ideas and it's true. I've said yes to every one of them. And sometimes they blow up in your face like disarming three wires. I just handle that. It's OK. But somehow we managed to get through it and get to the other side. And our life has been richer and more fulfilling for. I'm a great wing person for it. I always tell people out there in your life, take risks, not to jeopardize your health or your personal safety, not to your personal health, but take lots of little measured risks in life because that is where all the best rewards lay. It could be even just a risk of I want to go talk to this person in the club, but I'm scared of rejection. What's the worst they can say? No, that's a risk. Do it. Yeah, from the time you met your wife and you had to go walk over across the bar and say, are you wearing any underwear? No, you had to take a little bit of risk. Is that how you pick me up, honey? I don't know. Were you wearing any underwear the night? I think you were. I was wearing under. I like a sexy pair of underwear. That's why we keep stealing them from people. We have a lot of underwear. It is terrible. Underwear collection. We love memorabilia, guys. And I'm thankful for all you listeners. Absolutely. Amen to that. Like really thankful for the ones that have been with us since day one. We keep running into new people who are like, I've been with you since day one. And for all the ones that have come along the way, you make this worth doing. You showed me something the other day that a listener sent us. And it's said that we're like number one in all of Apple podcast for like the sexuality category. Right. For sex. I still can't believe that people listen to our dumb drivel. But we still are in a car. You do. And you guys, it cannot be overstated. How much love we have for you guys out there. And so that's why if you see us at an event, at a naughty and you're worried about coming up to us or interrupting us, we meeting you because since we're not making money at this, having your love and support gushing out is really what it's all about. Gushing out, you say. Sometimes it gushes. I like it. Just don't stop being you guys out there because maybe something that we've said resonates with you. And so you still stick around, but we love you guys for it. We cannot thank you enough. We do every email, every DM, everything I get. It's just another little bit of dopamine that I'm like, oh, my God, wow. They said they went to the club because we recommended it and they loved it. It means so much to me. We might have started out doing this as a personal diary, just to kind of keep a record of our lifestyle journey. And because we couldn't stop talking about it. But somewhere along the way, it's because of the feedback from you guys. That's what keeps us going. And we feel like we would like to give back what we've learned. We'd like to make you a better lifestyler. We'd like to help you play that game better. And if we can just give back a little bit to what the lifestyle is given to us, then it'd be all worth it. And one day when we decide to turn out the lights and walk away, we'll leave it there as a time capsule for new lifestylers and the lifestyle to see what were the chronicles of a couple that went through it from start to finish. So are we going to go home and stick a turkey in the microwave? We're going to have some Chinese takeout. How big a turkey you think we can fit in the microwave? I don't know. We're going to suck some mashed potatoes through a straw. Bubbies. Don't take about that. Much more than this. I did it. So if you liked what you heard, go ahead and either subscribe or I didn't know how that works. Just come and listen. We might post once a week. We might post a couple of times a month. I don't know. We might get bored and stop doing it. So you'd better come and listen while it's still going. Otherwise, we'll lose interest. Tell us how much you like it. Yeah, that kind of comment. That'd be cool. We love it. We're going to leave a comment. 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