Todrick Hall & Michael Beck: Unf*ckwittable & Storage Rats

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Great brands, great prices. That's why you rack. When you're Jeff Lewis, the drama never stops. They said that I am by far the most difficult talent that they're working with. You know, we could say we don't judge, I judge, and I was judging. Money doesn't make you an asshole, but if you're an asshole and with a ton of money, you're going to be a bigger asshole. Why are you looking at me? No, I didn't, I didn't mean to, I didn't mean to look in that direction. You're looking right at me. Jeff Lewis has issues. Hey, welcome to Jeff Lewis has issues. In today's episode, Todrick Hall and Michael Beck joined the show from New York City. We talk about diet, lemonade, and storage rats. Plus, Todrick discusses his new life motto. Welcome back. You both. Hey. Good morning. So Todrick, Todrick has been what, gone for a year and a half. Is that correct? Like a year and three months. I think I counted. Wow. That's a long time. And then how long have you been gone, Michael? December 31st. That was my last appearance. So three months. So because he's the showrunner on the new flipping out spinoff, Bravo did not want him on the radio. They didn't want you moonlighting. No. But now you're, we're done with principal photography. We are. So you're back on the radio. Yeah. No, Todrick, I do want to apologize. Todrick was, by the way, Todrick is very professional. He was very punctual. Punctual. Thank you. So punctual. He was actually earlier than the time than his call time, which I appreciate. Thank you. However, you walked in right during a little bit of a heated moment between myself and set up employee, Annie Sharp. Yes, I did. I wouldn't say I walked in on it. I watched it all happen from the moment you walked in. So we were coming up to elevator and they were like, did Annie ask you if you wanted something to drink? And I, I didn't realize it was the shots were about to be fired. I was like, no, she attacks me. And I just saw your eyes went sort of like red. And then we walk into the room and you're like, Annie, did you ask Todrick if you would like something to drink? And she was like, no, would you already knew the answer? But then he was like, so did you put up the cameras downstairs? And she said, yes, he said, okay, I want you to unput them up. I want you to fold them up when you take them to the hotel. I want you to edit six to video needs to be ready by three p.m. Today, I need two videos and reels by the end of the week. I need you to get behind the scenes footage. And then he was like, that's all. I was like, if I'm devil with product three, what's happening? I was like, oh, shit. And then it was quiet in the room. And I was like, hey, Annie, nice jacket. Yeah, you were very uncomfortable. I'm sorry to put you in that position. It's okay. But I was like, oh, shit. And as soon as she left, I said, oh, Annie's interest. I said, Annie, are you okay? Are you okay? A year and a half and just walked into a shit show. It was wild. Yeah. The back story is, that ain't true. The back story is, you know, I elected to bring her on this trip. We flew out on Monday, we're leaving tomorrow. And literally nothing has happened since she's been here. And, you know, we were, Mike, you and I were talking, she has been going out at night. And really truly, I don't, I mean, look, unless she's coming in at three or four and waking people up, it's not that big of a deal. If you were getting your job done, but she's not getting the work done. We had this problem. It wasn't the last time in New York, the time before. It was in June, I remember, yeah. Where she's just posting all day, every day on her Instagram of what she's doing and failing to do what she's been paid to do, which is come here and, you know, she films reels, she clips reels, she does behind the scenes. And we were not allowed to do behind the scenes reels while we were shooting. So it's important that we get those back on Instagram because they really have the most engagement. I haven't seen one of you. I mean, of course, my instinct is to like, stand up for her. But then Jeff's like, okay, what videos have been cut this week? And I'm looking in the group chat and there's just like, there's not much going on. I was coming here to like, I was going to be prepared to like defend her and have a little fun with you about her going out because we went out last night. But I didn't know that she's not doing her job. That's the problem. Yeah. So. But her outfit was so cute, you guys. She looked so cute. I've been in the situation before. I had to talk to an assistant before because he was supposed to be shooting content for me. And every day I go in his story and I'm like, this is amazing. And it looks like he's on vacation and mine was dry boots, desolate crickets.com. And I'm like, why is my content? That's the most frustrating part because if you look at her Instagram, there's behind the scenes of American Dream Mall, the caviar place, all these places that you were, we were there and you were being paid to, to basically document our lives. So, you know, it's, I think the writing's on the wall. And your Instagram is dry boots. Your Instagram is dry boots. But I do before, you know, I get myself riled up, but then I calm down and I, before I react, I said to Shane, okay, what is realistic? I want to be very reasonable here. How many reels should we have seen already? It's today's Friday. And, you know, we, we had three film Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. And they were each two hours. We had really strong guests. So I said, you know, three clips would be great, but we've had, I mean, five would be exceptional. We've had a really strong guest. Yeah. And, but we've not seen any, any, any reels. But if you look, you know what, actually, you should go to her Instagram because you'll see all the content is popping. She's shaving her legs, reels that I have paid for. And the, I mean, the flights, even the flights are expensive. I mean, one of those like, Yeah, a few grand. Yeah. So I'm not happy to. So kids, if you're out there and you're assisting somebody, if you're going to post good content on your page and not on theirs, mute them. Okay. They can't be, you can't let them see all the great content on your story. Now coming up the elevator, when I realized that your drink order had not been, nobody reached out about your drink order or breakfast order, I was very concerned and you, you called it out. Racism. It's alive well in 2026. And I didn't realize that she didn't ask. That ain't true. I didn't realize that your order had not been taken either. So initially racism, I just, I really went there and I said, I am so sorry, Todrick. I thought we got rid of all the racists in the office. They're still alive. They're still amongst us. They're still here. So I was happy to hear that she also forgot to take your order. She did. But you're, you're a little, you know, you got a little sauce in it. I'm half Mexican. So that's still, but why do you watch us eat breakfast burritos? I'm sorry. I know. I was wondering about that. Actually, I went to Toast with myself because I hadn't heard and it was like 1125 and I was like, I haven't heard. So me, let's go myself. We should go and talk about how they're starving the guests on Jeff Lewis live. We're all famous. Budget cuts. The budget cuts are real. Why didn't she just ask you with the bar last night between shots? I don't know. Maybe she forgot. I don't know. Oh, okay. Yeah. All right. So how many bars did you go to last night? I went to two. Annie only went to one. She came out for just a little bit. I think she only came out for one drink and then she left. But I went for two. I met some friends and had a couple drinks. I'm really sorry. I missed out on Uno. I almost got shamed into going back to Jeff's hotel to play Uno, which would have been really fun. I just had other plans on four days. It was really fun until Monroe started crying. Well, because you were a really sore winner. I'm a sore winner. I won three times in a row. But she got to learn. And then you rubbed it in her face. She's got to learn. Oh, no. You're not always going to win. I would hate that. She wins a lot and she loves to gloat. She really does. Very rarely do I win like that. So I got a three first place and one second place. Right? Yeah. Pretty good record. I did pretty good. You let her have it. And she cried. But she got me back today because this morning, so she had some money that she had earned and she fine earned. She worked for it. What did she do? She was our flight attendant on the way here. And she did a great job. Very professional. When she's on it, she's on it. Yes. She loves her brakes, but who doesn't? Yeah, right. She deserves it. So she got paid $20 an hour. It was a five hour flight, so she made $100. Wow. So she went to FAO Schwartz and she bought a doll named Debbie. She named her Debbie. She has gorgeous blonde hair. She's a stunner. So Debbie is, I was told this morning that Debbie is lonely and that Debbie would like a boyfriend. Join the club. So she said she would like $50 to go buy a ken for Debbie. And I said, no. I go, do you have $50 saved at home? I said, you can pay me. I said, I'm willing to lend you the money and you can pay me back when I get home. And then she was kind of stumped by that. And I said, look, I'm going to give the $50 to Alyssa, her nanny. And I said, if you and I come to, I'm going to radio, if you and I come to terms, you can borrow the $50. So, and then the nanny, you know, so she just texted a picture of her. I think she's at the Tiffany, Tiffany cafe and, or somewhere. And she says, she's getting the Ken doll. She said she'll pay you back because the Easter Bunny is bringing her money. That's my girl. I'm sorry. Did we ever discuss that the Easter Bunny is bringing her money? She's taking a payday loan towards her holiday gift. Yes. Well, she's just assuming she's getting money for Easter because you've set a precedent on St. Patrick's Day. Yes. You're getting her gifts and money for every other holiday, including she told me MLK Day, she got a gift. She got, she had emeralds on last night. She was showing us her bracelets and she's like, oh, these were my St. Patrick's Day gift. I said, is she Irish? No. I think we're a little bit Irish. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I think we're a little bit Irish. Right. But the reason I bought her is, I told you the reason I bought her a St. Patrick's Day gift is because I do think I was drinking and it's possible and promised her something. I think it could have happened, or she just took advantage of me. Can you drink and promise me something because my birthday is tomorrow. Happy birthday. Happy birthday for you tomorrow. I wonder if you were drunk and you promised Annie shouldn't have do any reels. Do you think that's what happened? That's what happened. And she's like, now we're getting somewhere. I think at dinner, I was like, don't bother taking her order. Go ahead. Just go to the bar. They already had their month. You're not here to work. Pride month is not for a couple months. They can have dry mouth. Now, so New York, that is now your home. Yes. I just moved into my apartment, which is very, very, I think it's really cute. And the standard is different in New York. There were some like little shady queues in my comments being like, this apartment looks like a downgrade from your house, but I absolutely love it. What I saw was a two bedroom corner unit with wall to wall windows. And that bedroom was huge. That's a big bedroom. I'm so happy to be here. I like, am in love with the city. I've lived here five times before, but only when I was doing Broadway shows. So this is the first time I'm being like in the city unemployed. I'm just like living my life, going to see Broadway musicals working on my own show. And I might get on my first birthday here tomorrow. It's exciting. So originally you left LA and you went to, I believe London to do Shrek the musical. Is that correct? I went there to do burlesque and then I took the role as donkey in Shrek. Just to be quite precise, I was the donkey. Yeah. Okay. So you did burlesque. But then when did there was an, there's another one though that you did midnight. Midnight. That's my original musical that I started writing whenever I was, when I was talking to you all, I would be like writing that musical. Did you do that in London too? I did. Yeah. Okay. Sold out baby. So the burlesque and tell me if I'm correct. I read something. You said that it was a very challenging work environment. Yes. It was. How does it compare to Jeff Lewis live? I think I'd rather deal with the challenging work environment. Burlesque has been being it today. Was it cast drama or the audience? Like what was the vibe? I think that it was just like a really hard experience from the top down. Like usually when a work environment is difficult, it's from the top. And it was, it was just like a very different experience. It was just a very difficult experience. I was actually on the phone for four and a half hours last night with the writer and creator of Burlesque and I was speaking to him for the first time in six months because they're bringing the show back to London this year. And I was just like this, it's crazy. You know, I was dating Liam at that time and I thought we were going to get married and that show like was so stressful that we ended up breaking up like three days before the opening. But we were still in the show together. So we still had to dance and sing and like see each other and touch each other every single eight shows a week. It was a quite the journey. I was wondering because you guys, yeah, you guys were like thick as thieves. Yeah, it was, it's a long story, but yeah. We have time. No, you know, I think, I think that like I'm a person that requires a certain type of like love. I want somebody to like ride for me and that one day like really solidified a lot of things for me. First of all, there was a guy that was in the cast that I just felt like he was getting way too close to and it made me uncomfortable and I never expressed his comfort before. And I was like, I don't like that you're hanging out with this person one on one because I already had history with this guy and another guy dated. So that didn't make me uncomfortable. That made me uncomfortable. But the main thing was like, at one point we didn't have costumes for the show and we were going to have to open the next day. So I went on social media and said, I need people to come help me sell costumes until like all night. It's going to be from like 10pm until 6am. And he was just very like, oh, these people are in our apartment and I don't know how I'm going to sleep. And I'm like, I don't I'm not expecting you to come out and get some rhinestones and bedazzle costume. But I need somebody who's going to like be okay with me doing this for myself. Like I'm not going to not give myself the best chance to succeed. So I just saw sides of him that made me sort of be like, I don't know how right or is this not the gayest breakup ever. I needed him to rhinestones some costumes for me. That's not enough. Not enough. How old is he? 20, 31. So I mean, the problem is a lot of these, you know, 20 year olds and early 30s, they're still kind of in a very selfish space, right? Trying to figure out their lives. And, you know, maybe maybe you're just a little more evolved and mature. Yeah. Maybe you need someone closer to your age. Yeah. Or, you know, 16 years older. Yeah. I just, you know, if I had known, if you were taking applications, maybe I'll take Annie's job and then I'll be closer to you. We can make some reals that will really get some traction. You know, get these numbers up. You know, the issue is though, you see 12 musicals a week. So my question to you is, how many musicals would I, because I don't really love them. But I feel like you know, which ones I'd like now. I do. I know what you like. Six, because it was 80 minutes with no intermission. And there was lots of, I mean, lots of stuff to keep me occupied. Yeah. You're a little ADD, right? You need something that's like constantly keeping your, if too many ballads, you're out. Correct. Yeah. I can tell that about you. You couldn't even make it through Wicked. We left an intermission. A Wicked? In your, the second half, like who cares? I just went, hello, who cares? Defying gravity, that's a finale. The chills that you get with defying gravity, like I would have been like locked in my seat. I can't believe you would get up and walk out after defying gravity. Believe it. Ed Monroe went with you. Why did you see it again? Didn't they sing it right before intermission? That's what they mean. No, that's what he means. Like that would be enough to usually bring people back. I was like, I've heard it. I don't need to come back after intermission. I did like Ann Juliet though. Was there an intermission on that one? Yeah. Yeah, there was. Yeah. Because then he can, Romeo comes back right at the end and that's the cliffhanger. Spoiler alert. You said chess is not for me. Chess is not for me. I don't think it's for you just because you don't like all the ball, there's a lot of balance. It's like three hours long. I don't know that chess is for you. But there are some other shows that I think that you would like. Sometimes I feel like, like I told you, I think you're the gay Grinch. But I feel like your heart could be warmed by the musical, maybe happy ending. I would love to take you to go see that because it's a very cute show. How long is it? And is there an intermission? It's 90 minutes. There's no intermission. Okay. All right. This sounds like a date. No, we're just friends, Michael. Oh, okay. Okay. Come on. Come on. I feel like it's not a no though. If Shane, like if Jeff ends up being single again, it's a chance. Would you change your name to Jeff Hall or what I have to be Todrick Lewis? These are the questions that need to be asked. Hall Lewis. Maybe a hyphenate. Hall Lewis. Just keep your name and keep my name. Hall Lewis. Are you going to change your name? I would just keep your names because it's probably going to end a divorce. So you just make it easy. Wow. He don't have hope for us. Wow. I mean, look at poor Annie. Well, you know, I did reach, you know, it's interesting how you write future man requirements. How many do you do check? How many boxes? Wait, you, is that my post? Of course. This is your post. You posted it out. Oh my God. Because I considered applying, but then it says, you have to, first of all, you want someone who's, you're aligned morally and ethically. That's a big chop for you. I couldn't even get a water today. Must love musical theater. Okay. I could learn to love some of it. Must be empathetic and try to understand the black experience if they're not black. I think you are very empathetic and you've been trying. He wants the black experience. Yes, he does. Must want. Must want. Must want children. I literally have four kids. I think I'm, I don't think, I think I'm done. Can you imagine Monroe with like a little like caramel? A little black brother. Yes. Let's see. Oh God. It'll be like shameless. Get ready, Jameson. A connection to Wizard of Oz and Disney is a massive plus. Wait, you don't like Disney, Jeff? I don't do drugs or really drink. Doesn't have to be sober, but it can't be part of your identity. That's literally your whole identity. I can't hear the bell. I like number one, two. A big booty is my weakness, just saying. Period. Does it have to be real? I need some. Oh, here we go. I need someone with stamina. Yeah. Who is willing to roll up their sleeves and get their hands. Who do I think I am with this list, by the way? I posted this with my chest too and I didn't take it down. Have you got to take her? Self awareness. Nothing is worse than someone who can't read the room. Yeah, it's a no. I don't think it's going to work. Yeah, it's going to work. Keep on looking. Yeah, okay. But I honestly, I liked you and Liam together. I'm, you see, you know, at the time, you seem to be very happy. I'm sorry about that. I think that he is genuinely not just saying this because I have a microphone in my mouth, but he's a lovely person. And I just, you know, I think sometimes when you're in a relationship, you really want somebody. I think like, because so many of us as gay men work taught how to be gay from watching, like, can we say porn on the radio? You know, like, we didn't get to watch like the notebook and all these movies that teach you what a gay relationship should look like. So we all have been trying to figure it out by ourselves. And I think that when now I'm like, I need somebody who is going to like be willing to get their hands dirty with me when things get really, really rough. Like I want somebody who's going to show up in a massive way when things aren't great because the honeymoon phase lasts for five seconds. And that is what I would really like. With partnership. Yeah. When you were talking about how Liam was getting close to someone in the cast, were there trust issues between you two? Is it because of all the traveling and the long distance? No, that's the thing. Even when I said it to him, he was like, you've never asked me to do that before. And I didn't say don't hang out with them, but I just don't want them to be hanging out one on one because I had already had history with this person had already like slept with one of my ex-boyfriends behind my back and lied about it. So, and I was really forgiving and still hired this person to be in the show. But then at a certain point I was like, I don't feel comfortable. I don't trust this person. And I don't really want them to be in close proximity to my boyfriend one on one when I'm not around. Don't put yourself in opposition. Just go with other people. Yeah, I didn't like that. It was just too much. And I feel like if you are in a relationship and that person is like, he doesn't know this person and it's not in my nature. I would be like, go hang out, go spend the night with your ex-boyfriend. I don't care. But if I'd expressed discomfort, it should just be immediate chop. Like there should be some sort of loyalty there. Right. There wasn't. So I did not eff with that. Interesting. So for whatever reason, he felt that relationship was important enough to hold on to. I think it was just like a stubbornness thing. At the detriment of yours. Yeah. And at that point I was like, I have to be a priority. And I had done so much to like get him there. I cast him in the show. Like he was in the musical, got him a job, negotiated his contract for him. And I was like, I'm not asking for the world. So if you can't do this, it's not meant to be. And it's devastating to me. Like being here in this city and moving into an apartment and going to see all these shows. Like Liam and I saw like 160 something musicals together trying not to throw up. And so. Can you do the throw up? The throw up sound please. Go continue. But at least you saw it before you got married, right? I know. You were close to getting married. I was. So at least you saw that. I actually asked the producers if I could propose to him on opening night. And they were like, no. But I'm so glad they said no. They did me a favor. They did me a favor. Yeah. Now, speaking of trust issues, are you not at all concerned? So you're, you know, you're here in New York and Austin is he's home in LA. Does he still text with the waiter at Tamo Shanters? No, not anymore. You should tell Todrick what happened. Yeah. He actually blocked the waiter at Tamo Shanters because the waiter kept following up. We went to, we went to like a Christmas dinner at Tamo Shanters and where's that at? Pastine or silver? Silver Lake. Silver Lake, yeah. And we were propositioned for a threesome by the waiter. Oh, that's beautiful. Yeah. And Austin's just very, very sweet and very nice. And he was just a little naive to the fact that this guy was flirting. And so the number was exchanged. And then. Was he naive? No. He, if you knew him, you would know he's like, I was catching up. I think he likes the attention and we know you do. Well. But are you guys like open? No. A little bit? No. Not at all. Because I just think we got to talk about that. That's like the thing. If you don't want to be in a boy band these days, like if you don't want to be polyamorous and have 16 boyfriends, like it's like, you might as well give up on having a relationship. This Austin's the first guy, I tend, I'm a cancer. I tend to be a tiny bit jealous in relationships. But Austin's the first guy that I've ever dated in my whole life that I just feel completely at ease, zero jealousy, zero insecurity. Like I just completely trust him. That said, you blocked the waiter at Tamo Shanters. You blocked him? He blocked him because the waiter was making us uncomfortable. Oh, sure. I love how you just put that on to Austin's play. Right. Right. Now, Jameson, you never, so Jameson obviously heard about this and so he took his boyfriend to Tamo Shanters. And the waiter had no interest? Racism. No, I don't think we ever got to actually see that waiter because. Because he asked to go to another table. Every waiter that came over was not someone we imagined Michael sleeping with or Austin sleeping with. It was all, so we giggled every time someone came over like, could this be them? So I just don't think we ever got the waiter actually. Wait, would you have, would you, are you and your boyfriend open? No, we're not. But they would have liked it. I don't think there's anything wrong with people who are. No, I don't think that there is anything wrong either, but I just, I'm like, is that the new requirement? Have you done open relationships? I've never done it. Have you? I don't think it's a requirement. It feels like it's becoming a requirement. I mean, I'm the only single person in the room now. Because you're not going, you're not going old enough. That's your problem. Truly, you're going too young. I go on the Atlanta's cruise where there's a bunch of senior assistants and they're all open. Okay, the Atlanta's cruise is not the place. It is crazy. I told them I took my mom on a gay cruise and she asked me if she was a top or bottom. That's what I was having to do. Oh, Lord. You knew what you were signing up for with that though. Yeah. That's crazy. Now, when you go to all of these musicals, are you actually, are you scouting for talent? Like, as I know, obviously you write your own. Yes. Yeah, you write your own plays, you write your own musicals. I like to see people in their natural habitat. I want to see what someone does because sometimes people come in for an audition and they don't, it's not, you don't see the spark. But sometimes when you see someone in the situation on stage, you're like, oh my God, I would love to work with that person. I'd love to write a song for that person. So yeah, but I just love musical theater. I think that we live in a world of TikTok and stuff where people need things to last for five seconds. And I love that people are forced to like turn their phones off, be engaged, and there's not that many forms of entertainment that do that now. So I think performers are the hardest working people ever on Broadway. Like Meg Dostalion just opened in Mulan Rouge. I went to go see her. And then she had to call out a few shows because she was exhausted and she was telling people in the cast, she was like, this is the, you are the hardest working people in the industry to do eight shows a week, two and a half hours singing, dancing, acting, keeping your body, your voice in shape. And she stopped in the middle of the show. Yeah. Middle of the show. They had to end the show in the middle of it because she got like sick and had to go to the hospital. Because how many shows a week is she doing? Eight. Eight shows. Eight shows. And they're what, like two and a half hours or something like that. Two and a half hours, yeah. Can you think of anything worse? I mean, you do 10 hours a week. We're here right now. Yeah. Yeah. I can. I will say though, when I, I was watching, I kept watching Monroe's face and she was just lit up. She loved it. She loved every minute of it. And for me, that was really rewarding. I mean, I, I do get antsy and, but I think as far as musicals go, I think Anjuliette and Six kind of kept my attention. Totally. Without Titanic, you think you'd like it? I think you would because it's funny. It's 90 minutes. It's like in the same Will House of all those other shows that he was describing. It's fun. Super gay. Yeah. Gary New Hampshire saw you in London. Line four. Hi, Gary. Hey, I love Todrick so much. I just think I love that. I love that you're on Instagram talking about the 16 bags that you needed to help, to have help moving in. You just keep it very real. And then on the other side of it, I don't think anybody knows the incredible genius you are. And Ayanna George and that song is something that I can't recover from. Oh, thank you. Thank you so much. That's very sweet, Gary. Are you extending it or bringing it to the States or just trusting the universe? I moved to New York because my dream is to get that show on Broadway. And I got such great feedback in London and we sold out all of the shows. And now it's like my sole live submission to get that show to Broadway. And it's really, really hard to get shows on Broadway to raise the money and to find a theater and to just find the time slot. So I packed all 16 of those bags and I moved here. And I have been sharing every part of my journey on Instagram because I'm rebuilding. You know, I had a career in LA. I gave up being on TV and doing reality shows for the time being and moved here. And theater doesn't pay anything. So I'm living this humble life in New York and in London. But I'm the happiest I've ever been. I wish that I was dating somebody, but I, you know, I am very, very happy to be doing the show and I think the right person will come. And that means the world to me that you saw that you saw the show and you heard the music. And I hope you get to make it to the show when it comes to New York. Because I think now I'm in a place where I'm like my imposter syndrome is going on. Like it's a matter of if not, I mean, it matter of when not if now. Thank you, Gary. Now you said you've given up reality TV. Is that because you worked with Joey Zauzig? No. I'm probably going to give up reality TV after working with Joey Zauzig. Well, he's definitely given up. If you dread dealing with your insurance company more than you dread being stuck in an elevator with a total stranger, who's an overshare. Oh, being burrito for lunch. Then you might have insuranoya. And if you have insuranoya, then you should have NJM. 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Actually, people have been asking me lately, and I, this was one of my favorite shows to do in a long time. I think we had a... Lie detector, please? No. I mean, you are... The lie detector determined that was a lie. You are a pain in the ass, but to be honest, your schedule is amazing. Because most shows shoot like six days a week and you get, you know, they're 12-hour days. Jeff's like, I shoot Monday through Friday for three hours a day and, you know, we're home by five. So it's a pretty easy schedule. Well, I'm juggling other things like the radio show and, you know, parenting and man. Yeah. So what do you mean? Yeah. I mean, it's two weeks above me. It's a long two weeks, though. Yeah, you must be exhausted. Yeah. But you and I, we had a few... We have had a few confrontations slash arguments, but we diffuse it pretty quickly. I respect you, and so I do listen to you. And so I come around pretty quickly with you. Yeah. I think we have a mutual respect for each other, and I think when we have a disagreement, we usually talk it out. And I think you've also changed. You're not like, you know, just flying off the handle like you used to. I think people are going to be kind of surprised by that because you are more rational. You take time to like really think things through before you react, which was very interesting to me. He has a heart. That's so cute. Look at his smile. He's growing. He's growing. He's growing. He's growing. You're three sizes. Now, there is something that you said that I thought was funny, Todrick. You said the 2026 motto is being unfuck with a bull. Yeah, unfuck with a bull. Yeah, unfuck with a bull. You can take that fuck with a bull. That H off of it. The H is silent. Unfuck with a bull. Yeah. Okay. Explain. Did you get fucked with last year? Is that the problem? I feel like I'm always getting fucked with, like with the internet, with boys, with, you know, sometimes people in my family. And now I'm just sort of like at this place where I'm like, I'm going to try to be nice and be kind, but I'm not really letting people fuck with me. But also it means like, be so undeniable at what you do that nobody can like take it away. You know, because sometimes I'm like, why am I not getting here? Why am I not getting in the store? I think we all as human beings sometimes feel undervalued. Like we're doing all this work and, you know, your boss sends you away and makes you like make reals in the middle of the day when he doesn't appreciate your own. You're not a detective to tell me. But people come for you hard. Why do you think that is? I think, I genuinely think there's a lot of things. I do think that people have like biases about certain people who look certain ways. If you hear someone did something, I think you will believe that. But I've also just taken a bunch of massive, massive swings. Like I'm unapologetic about the fact that I'm here chasing my dreams. If I want to do something, I put myself out there. That is like sort of like not a quality that a lot of people respect, but some people do. And usually the people who have a problem with me are not people like Jeff, who has had to like get his hands dirty, run out of his own business. He knows what it means to like put yourself out there to like see people watch you do something in a massive way and sometimes fail and not be successful. And I think a lot of people are defined by those failures. And I feel like that's why I admire you because you get back up and you live your life so unapologetically. And I think that's why people like even who would in a normal situation, I'm sure you have a lot of people who are quite conservative that watch this show that theoretically might not think that they would fall in love with a gay man and his gaggle of gays on the show. But I think you speak to people's humanity and you're like so real and raw and like you share when, you know, going through a divorce and all of the things that you've gone through is really difficult thing to do and people would shield it, but people fuck with you because you're so real and raw. My un-fuck-wittable. Thank you. I would say my least successful years are the years that I am too nice. I feel like unfortunately people do mistake, you know, kindness for weakness. And unfortunately in this world, you kind of have to be a little bit of a bitch to get what you need done. And so you've seen me fight with, I mean, even just Bravo and the production company and all of that. I mean, we're good now, but you have to very much push back very much. Otherwise you get, and it's an example. Bravo is just an example. Everybody, Sirius XM, anybody, you know what I mean? You unfortunately sometimes have to be an asshole. You don't, I don't want to be. I mean, I'd love to just be nice and not have any sort of confrontations or push backs or threats or any of that, but you just, you kind of have to do it. Now I'm going to tell you something did trigger me, which made me very defensive of you, is that I saw the video of your new apartment. Now your new apartment is basically a white box right now, right? You just moved in, you haven't decorated it. It's a two bedroom, is it two bath? Yeah. Two bedroom, two bath in prime Manhattan. And then people were kind of like, I saw a couple of shady comments. And I thought, you idiots, do you realize that he has to gross 20,000 a month to then pay taxes, to then have enough money to pay that rent? Yeah. That's not a loser by any means. And I just, it makes me defensive. Like, you know, these people are probably sitting in their $90,000 homes in Ohio and like, you know, coming from you, but you know what I mean? It's very different. It's very different. Like, they don't understand the value of what it costs to have that little cramped two bedroom, two bath apartment in New York. But some people are just haters. Some people hate for the sake of hating, and we've seen it, obviously we've seen it in the comments, we see it with our shows and stuff, but people just don't love. Not at my show though. To hate. I listen. Well, no, it's valid, it's for your show. I'm really, really like two years ago, I was so like wrapped up in my whole LA persona, and I fought and fought and fought for this house that was like way too expensive for me to have. And at a certain point I was like, am I going to kill myself and keep doing reality shows that I don't want to do to keep up this house for more reason with Madam Zawzi. That was a sick house. That was a big house. I love that house. It's hard for me even when I was in LA this past week, it feels like a failure, like for me to not have been able to upkeep that house. And I know so many people have felt like that. I felt like I'm going to have to explain to all these people why I'm not going to be able to afford this house anymore. And then at a certain point I just said, fuck it. I am so much happier playing the donkey and Shrek the musical in the UK. I was, I felt like so at home when I got back into musical theater, because I love it so much. We're going to work on it for you. But I, I've gone to two already this year. Yeah. Did you make it to the end of them? Oh, they didn't have intermissions. Yeah. Okay, good. I couldn't leave. I do have something to ask you, because I'm a little concerned. Okay. When you moved out of your home, did you put things in storage? I did. What? Soft goods. Where? Where? I don't know. It's one of those big storage units where they lifted up and they, they, I didn't actually find it. My business manager did. I couldn't even move out. Who even knows if it's, if it's really there because I was so devastated that I was like, my cousin who was also my assistant helped move it in there and they're in these big storage tanks. Rats. Well, they're lifted up. Rats. They can get in big. Nope. There's, I guarantee it's infested with rats. It's not infested with rats. No, it is. I don't want to, I don't want to upset you, but it is. Jeff, stop this right now. No, there's ours. We had rats in our storage unit. We had rats. And what, what do you want with a brand new dishwasher? What are you doing? Rats. And they were, I mean, they burrowed in our rugs. We had to get rid of all the rugs that do you have rugs in there? I don't think so. They're full of, they're full of rats. They're wicked costumes in there. That's all I think about them. They're full of rats. Don't do this. Rats love wicked costumes. Jeff, stop this right now. You're making my heart. Didn't they go for my wicked costume? All of them. That's why I had to have this. I was going out. My heart just dropped. I was like, what? How long, how long have, have there's, your things been in storage? I'm just trying to count all the rats. Stop it. Seriously, how long? A year and a half. Guys, to our list. Oh, they've had so many babies in those wicked costumes. Don't do this. No, really, truly. There's rats. This is homophobic behavior once again. What are you talking about? Don't do this. Rats love gays. They loved my unit. My storage unit. They loved. I do feel safer about that if it's like, if it's one of those like cargo crates or something and it's up in storage, yours was a ground floor unit. They, where do you think, do you think it's just, they suspend it with chains? It's sitting on the ground somewhere. The rats have got into the wicked costume. What else do you have in there? Do you have other clothes? Yeah, all my clothes. I only took like rehearsal clothes with me and then I thought I was going to be coming back and then I didn't come back. So don't do this. Do you know that? They're in every storage unit, Todrick. I went to Graceland recently and did like a tour and they were like cataloging clothes and they had told me that when Lisa Marie Presley died, she had 95 storage units in Calabasas that they had to empty out and bring to Graceland. Do you know how many rats were in those fucking storage units? Not as many as Todrick's. You guys, I think we should move on. Do you have one storage unit or do you have more than one? I have three. Three times the rats. Oh my God. You guys, don't do this. Now I'm really worried and I'm in New York. You should be worried. Can you, if I give you the key, will you go there and look? No way. It's too dangerous. I'm a little rat. I thought we were close. You keep saying you want to be close friends. Like you were... I actually was thinking about that when you had that house. We were neighbors. I walked by your house every single day. I wish we were friends then. Well, we are friends now and now I'm back in the country. So every time you come to New York, I'd love to be on the show. We just got a rail from Annie. Oh, wow. Oh, the rails are coming in. She's cutting quick. I hate it. I hate it here so much. We have a live feed from storage. Oh my God. Y'all are the shadiest queens I've ever met in my entire life. You didn't put... There's no food in the storage unit, right? No. There's no food. All right. Now, did I hear that when you landed in New York City, you went right to Chick-fil-A? We love Chick-fil-A. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I feel like I'm such a bad gay, but those waffle fries got me in a chokehold. I cannot do it, and I'm like, I got a beard. No gay. They're so good. Does that make us a bad gay if we go to Chick-fil-A? If we didn't go to places that hated the gays, we would have nowhere to go. So just go. You know what I mean? We wouldn't be able to come to the studio. Sorry, Shakira. I'm not including you. Yeah. It was Annie that didn't take your order this morning. Yeah. Sorry, Todrick. I'm really sorry about that, Todrick. It's OK. I forgive you, Annie. But Jeff kind of fosters a homophobic environment, though, because he doesn't really like the gays either. You don't. No. I do love Chick-fil-A, though. Exactly my point. The Sunjoy Tea is delicious. Have you done the Sunjoy Tea yet? No. You needed to wash down those fries. I like to get the lemonade. The lemonade is like the best. No. You're missing the Sunjoy Tea. The Sunjoy, they add the sweet tea. To the lemonine. Yeah. The diet lemonade? Have you had that? Of course. Or would I have the? Oh, it's so good. It's good. It's wonderful. Why would you do diet lemonade? Because it's just so full of sugar. And obviously. So you're doing like sweet. I'm watching my figure. You're doing three chicken sandwiches, two waffle fries, and then a diet lemonade. OK. You've got to cut somewhere. Let's take Suzy in New York line two. Hi, Suzy. Hi, Jeff. I was just calling to defend Annie a little bit. I just wanted to see, did you give her her expectations before she arrived to New York on how many reels that she was supposed to make? We've had many talks, and there was a little bit of a hiccup. Not the last trip to New York, but the time before where she was reprimanded for this exact same thing. So I guess I just assumed we didn't need to go over it again, Suzy. And the expectations are the same in New York and in LA, where you get everyone's coffee orders. You bring that to the studio. You film the shows, and then you cut a clip. I mean, it's one clip a day. That's the bare minimum. Which. Yeah. Finish her. Right. I want the orders, I understand. But the reels, I was just unsure if you set the expectation. And I also think sometimes people that work for you, they get wrapped up in like the fun and hanging out, and they think they're more your friends than your employer. So I think sometimes it's good to set expectations again. But Suzy, we're traveling with three other employees, all of which everyone understands the job descriptions and their expectations. And so even last night, when we went out to dinner as a family, we came back, Annie disappeared, went to the bar with Michael. And then I had Kean and Shane sitting at the dining room table working, like working on the show, doing interviews and writing notes for the day and all of those things. So I feel like the other employees that are on this trip understand the assignment. And to be honest, I didn't feel bad about Annie going to the bar last night because I thought I didn't know that she didn't have her work done. So to come here today and to hear that she didn't do her work, that's when it doesn't feel right. Yeah, I just don't know. We're getting to a point where I don't know how many more conversations I can have, Suzy. I know. All right, just give her one more chance though. We've had a few chances already, Suzy. And there's a point in time where we just got to cut the cord. Anyway, have a good weekend. All right. Thanks for calling, Suzy. Bye, Suzy. Have a good one. Take care. Bye. You, congratulations, Michael. You won a GLAAD Award. Thank you. For outstanding reality program, Southern Hospitality. Yep. Can you submit us for that? Yeah, it's a no. They're definitely not giving us a show. I'll bring the Chick-fil-A. Yeah, no. I went to the GLAAD Awards with you once and it was, that was scary. Why? What happened? Because the gays don't like you either. They don't like you? They were like, why is he here? The lesbians love me. Oh my gosh. But the gays don't. I find you to be very likable, but I was terrified to come in here the first time I saw you. I was like, he is going to be evil. But you're actually really nice. Thank you. Yeah. I mean, nice to you. Yeah, I've never actually seen you be rude to anybody ever until this morning. I don't know if that was rude. I think it was just setting boundaries, right? This is what I'm expecting. You are the gay Miranda Priestly. It was just like a little level of conti that would do you like that was like that. And I was not expecting it was matter of fact. It was matter of fact. I said, I said to the cameras, they said up, she said, yes. And you said, take them down. Please break them down and go back to the hotel and cut reels. Because my feeling is what's why are we getting all this footage if you're not cutting reels? It's it seems like a big waste of time. So I said, I expect a reel by 3pm today. But you said it in the tone like an Annie, if you don't have the unprinted manuscript of the Harry Potter, don't bother coming in. That's all. That was the tone of it. What is my favorite was you said, she was like, are the cameras set up? Well, take them down. Yes. The trick bag of the question. That's all. Now you arrived to was it JFK with 14 bags, 16 bags. What 16 bags, 16 suitcases. Can we even do that? Yes, but it was really expensive. Guarantee there's rats in there too. Stop. What does that cost you bags? Well, it should cost a lot, but I had there was a sister at the at the at the booth. And so just for, you know, we there's like a black coat, you know, like I looked at her in a certain type of way and she felt that Wakanda energy and she and she just like swiped them on through. Are you didn't have to pay for those? I did pay, but I paid about like $400 or $800 that should have cost me like thousands of dollars. I love her. It's so shout out to my girl. It's great to be Todrick Hall. Yeah. People just checking your bag. She would charge Jeff extra. She would charge Jeff extra. She said, this is reparations bitch. You pay a triple. By the way, if any of you need a good foot rub while you're here in New York, I paid my nanny $150 last night. One of the best, one of the best foot massages I've ever had. I can't hear it. The fact that one of the best foot massages. The fact that your staff is massaging you is a whole mess that I just can't even get into. That's HR issues. Didn't you just get a massage? Yeah, I did. Where? Why? I got a get certificate from an executive for a massage. So I used it yesterday. I don't know what the fuck happened. I was facedown with my head in that little hole. About to fall asleep. And this lady is rubbing my back. She touched something on my back. Threw up. Threw up through the hole on the ground. Thanks for listening. If you want more of this, listen to Jeff Lewis live every weekday on Serious XM, as well as the Jeff Lewis channel, exclusively on the Serious XM app. Being a burrito for lunch.