THEY'RE LOSING THEIR MINDS w/ Andrew Wilson & Rob Noerr

The entire internet going ape over the fact that Trump decided on true social to release a little real. We're going to get into that tonight. Twitter is chipping out over it. By the way, let's point out that you maniacs blew it up. We also have a bunch of protesters who are finally being charged over in Minnesota, which is excellent. Caroline Levitt coping today. I know the thing we're going to dive right into tonight's episode of Tim Kast, IRL. Stick around. But first, make sure you like, subscribe, and we have to move over to our sponsor. It is beam dream. My friends, head over to shopbam.com slash Tim Kast and pick up your nighttime sleep aid to, obviously better. Beam Dreams amazing. It's got Alphini. It's got Raci. It's got Melton and Magnesium. I drink it every single night, not a joke, even. I got Phil drinking it now. It's great. It's great. We got the little packet ones because we're out of the studio. But I drink it every night before bed. A delicious cup of hot cocoa. 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Two days ago, I was telling you that we had Sean Freysick on the show, and he was talking crap about Nuke and the world, and he was, he was, he was trolling, and I proved it, and I called him out, and so turned out, if you were watching last night, it was, he actually was trolling you. So, thanks for joining me and Cross, and I also want to introduce Sean Freysick. Oh, my God, he jumped onto me. Hey, guys, I'm here. I'm here. Can I introduce the guest here? Is that okay? Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, that's not your engine. producer Sean here on the down for tape brown and no I'm actually excited to get into it with Andrew of Why we need to Nuke the entire Middle East so yeah, I'm excited I Kind of disavow so getting over to our top story here the Trump monkey business so Rob This is so stupid My understanding of this story is what the Trump administration is saying was that they actually released a different clip They went through that entire clip and then somebody recorded like it moved one reel to the next and they recorded a part of the other reel and That seems to be what their official story is now either way even if that's not the case I Still think it's objectively hilarious. Yeah, I have a different take. I'm a little offended if this wasn't intentional I think that that's a shame But I want my president is dipping his toes into a little racial humor, you know I think that's a good thing by the way if we'd nuke Middle East that's a lot of primates that would be killed Yeah, you know, I maybe hold on from that for now. I mean, it's what a joke the racism. I don't care anymore I don't care. I'm never apologizing again. I do not care. I don't want my president to apologize for this He should double down maybe hold like, you know Put a nice donation into a primate exhibitor something to zoo around here to make amends But what a joke by the way, they also had Joe Biden in that video was an orangutan is that racist too? Or is that just against the cognitively disabled? So well, they only showed the problem was you know People went and found the video they only showed this small amount which was attached to the clip and of course that small amount only showed So that's kind of what the the left wing cope about this is and they're going berserk Every single major talking head that I've seen who's on the left who needs no excuse to call out the evil racist You know imperial over Lord Donald Trump is losing their shit collectively over this they're going bananas They are they would say so yeah, I would say Donald Trump is probably the truest patriot and probably the greatest man alive In my lifetime and probably the history of this country But I was a little disappointed on the fact that he deleted this I you got to double down on this you got to stick by it It had to be an accident. I can't imagine because they're they're like you're a racist. He's like no, I'm not post the monkey video By the way, this article comes in from it's Tim Scott TMZ Trump's Obama ape video was extremely racist Getting into it US Senator Tim Scott is slamming president Donald Trump's controversial video depicting Brock Brock and Michelle Obama as apes Which he's describing as incredibly racist. I was not I listened I was laughing because of how uncomfortable that made me to say that Yes, I could tell not because it was funny to stop it. You got you're gonna get me canceled I see why am I okay? So the video which Trump posted on true social Thursday night showed Brock in Michelle's faces imposed on a pair of apes And as we know depicting black people as monkeys or apes is a racist trope that's been around for centuries So can we play this? Yeah, okay, let's play can can do the audio But so when the vote stopped counting this is Been noted in other countries you kill the audio Yeah, yeah, that's fine There's a massive you will at the end that's yeah So this is the video that went off yeah, and it's I think like we haven't learned this is uncomfortable laughing You might think that we think that things like this are funny. They're not funny. They're very serious Yeah, and we're laughing because it's more funny strange. It's not funny. Ha ha No, I think it's absolutely hilarious and I think we learned the lesson with Roseanne like it didn't work with Roseanne, you know when she went after Valerie Jarrett like the fact that Trump couldn't see that or at least a staff They couldn't see that lesson learn like yeah, it doesn't work. Oh, yeah, yeah, it doesn't it doesn't work Yeah, I totally need to stand by it I think that's why people voted them in they want to see more of this this humor look at all seriousness It's clear what happened was first off the video is about Like sort of the 2020 election being stolen. Yeah, which gets into the Fulton County stuff, which is a serious issue Okay, yeah, if there's a criticism to be made of Trump He'd be posting stuff without watching it the whole way through one of his staffers is watching the video Scrolls at the end like if you're watching X shorts and the next video pops up. That's what happened So it wasn't intentional, but I'll give shit. I find it to be Some people would find it hilarious not me because that would be really bad if someone laughed at this I also thought it was uncomfortable that they had Michelle is the ape and in Baraka's the chimp So like big Mike was the bigger of the tube and that's very not cool Like I don't I that's sexes. Yeah sexes and for sure and then you know Furthermore if you watch the whole video that the little clip comes from yeah, they have like JB Pritzer as an elephant and You know, I figure I'll get in on this what about us fat folks. We don't get to be offended. It's ridiculous It wasn't biting also he was an orangutan. Yeah, he was an orangutan and apparently the orangutan lobby's furious Because they don't want to be compared to a human vegetable That seems reasonable all around but hang on isn't there something to be said I'll ask the whole panel this like don't you want to kind of envision That there's like a nefarious evil doer who's plotting and he has control of Trump's true social and he's just like We definitely have plausible deniability here. Fuck it. Do it do it You know, and then they post it, you know, and then everyone goes berserk and they're like oh All the attention's back on us baby. I guess I mean, but I think this is tame Like I think it would have been way more based if you were to share like the Ellen clip with you know Michelle bomb was junk, you know I think that would have been way better like this was pretty tame in my opinion now By the way show brought to you by speedo today don't have your junk flopping around like Michelle Obama Exactly. So you think well the staffer. I wonder what his algorithm looks like that's crazy that that was a nice video that popped up I want to know that guy um that he didn't know I mean nobody's getting fired over this That's what I was wondering. You don't think Trump's just deleted a race and a promote honest mistake They'll fire somebody who is already going to get fired and blame him for it Pam Bondy. You've heard the book. I'd be great. You know Bondy was messing around on true social It's like jive or watch fight club We're inexplaining when he works at the theater that'll just place in like yeah, it's your point. Yeah Yeah, there's someone in Trump's case like just like It was monkeys there we go But there's evil characters just like it just a quick two-set. No one will even notice But this isn't even new though. I mean if you look at the White House Twitter and the White House posts like they're pretty based too I mean they have like ice uh videos with like various musical artists, you know doing it like the bad boy Didn't they do the cops theme and one of them early on yeah, exactly. It's like this is again like it was so strange that it was deleted and You know kind of reminds me of him disavowing Tony Hengecliffe After the Puerto Rico joke and it's just you know, I think Vance has the best position on this like he he understands jokes and he's like we're not gonna get upset about jokes, you know So I am a little disappointed in Trump for not owning the joke. Well this continues uh Scott The only black Republican in the Senate Hit out at Trump on X writing praying it was fake because it's the most racist thing I've seen out of this White House the president Should remove it and of course California governor Gavin Newscomme called it disgusting Most racist thing is the most So essentially what he's saying is black people are monkeys here. I mean this is like this is the message. That's outrageous Uh, Scott is just he's coming out here saying black people are monkeys. I mean that's of Tim pool I disavow I'm not saying it. I'm saying this is what he's saying if you see this is a racist joke and a racist video you're the racist You're gonna get clipped That totally bring it on I'll stand by it like the Democrats they see a black person and a monkey And they automatically think black people are monkeys. I do like calling people monkeys because we're all descended from them I think it's fun to be a science you with our monkey bodies and like y'all you crazy monkey But like then if it's my black friends and I'm like you crazy monkey They're my real friends don't care. Well other people will be like how racist of you And I'm like bro, I'll call you a monkey too. I don't care. I love that Tim Nurtin out I was never part of this episode Tim Nurtin out on Dragon Ball today because essentially the story of Dragon Ball It's like an Asian guy who's a monkey, you know, like that's the whole story. He's an Asian guy. That's a monkey So it's like why is that not reason like is it like calling a black person a monkey? Is it like like the n-word like if you put a soft a like monkey? Then it's okay No, all right the soft man. All right never mind. I mean I believe in the fucking twilight zone right now. I can't believe that this is happening now listen I guess about all of this he was just on Joe Rogan and Oh Hey, uh, hey if anyone isn't gonna get upset about this type of videos Joe Rogan You know what I mean? Let's go back to that compilation. We try to bring in the black people All right It's crazy all right to bring it back to deal with your Rogan that's crazy Jimmy what's that Obama monkey bring it up? It says Mike Lawler said Trump should issue an apology. This brings up a real point. I read the story I'm the holly chance you sent it to the opening I come to do everything. What do we? I can't get a dude? What I gotta do is get some respect in here Stop Stop insulting our fans of color number one now tell you do Theo Vaughan. We're not gonna respect you By the way, this is a kill Tony audition here, right? Yeah Anyways, Mike Lawler right mr. Open Border himself. Let's give like it's not him to Steve just ask yourself this What's more offensive to the black community? I'm not black. I don't know if you could tell but if I was I would find it more offensive the Chuck Schumer's out there saying 71% of Democrats went voter ID including over 50% of Democrat are blacks And he's saying that's Jim Crow So on one hand, we have a little harmless joke that was obviously accidental It's the most racist the most racist the Democrats claiming the even black Democrats are like sure I don't have a problem with voter ID That's Jim Crow 2.0 because you know black people are incapable of Accomplishing the Herculian task of getting an identification. It's such a joke So I'm not gonna clutch my pearls or leave people clutch pearls ever some dumb story like this It was an accident the real truth is the black Americans are being screwed by this government including Democrat administrations They care more about foreigners than they do the people in their own communities And so this is a nice distraction for them to pretend like they care about this community They don't care. It's the same playbook that it's been for years just scream racist and do nothing to help your constituents Yeah, no I agree. I think the next time we go and we do some hard ice raids and stuff We just throw out a video like this and you know people get way more upset about this and then what's going on? I want people to make AI videos of me with animal bodies. I want it all animal bodies with my face make it so like Why how shitty to have a life where you have to be upset by one of those animals like oh no that animal You can't make me look like like have fun with it, dude. What would you want what what what animal would you First a giraffe Denny elephant I am always perpetually confused by everything you say Just I'm just in a perpetual state of confusion. Yes This is but you're really good at hell divers though So I really I'm really good at confusing people too. Yeah, you know you always want to subvert I think a lot of what I'm doing because what we're up against global international economic order This thing will just Smite you if you speak out. I guess I'm all about subverting that through comedy through being weird through But yeah, I got your back in hell like tramps All right guys, let's move on to our next story This is um Facing felonies justice department. This comes from Fox News politics over on X justice department charge 158 Minnesota anti-ice protesters with obstruction assault And face act violations crimes carrying up to 20 years in prison AG Bondi warns that more arrests are coming Do we have a video with that Uh, no, that's right here. We got this article from next fall. Yeah, so Nearly 160 people arrested for impeding Assaulting federal officers in Minnesota last month. Borsar, a Tom Homan said drawdown in federal agents will happen When more Minnesota counties cooperate and if people stop interfering with federal agents Quote if you violate the law you will be federally prosecuted at home and said during your press conference on Wednesday Is there anything new going on here though really rob? Now, I mean, okay, it's good news that they're finally arresting some people Wow, we did it. This is this is the Republicans in a nutshell, right like I remember when Roger Stone Got like 10 years for the same crime that we know people in the FBI committed like misleading or lying to Law enforcement and bill bar stepped in was like no man two years and Republicans were like high five in each other like we did it And then meanwhile, it's like how much did bill ball recommend for Andy McCabe or Mo Comey zero years That's constantly the Republicans like what a victory there are lefties that are rioting Collaborating across the country with big money donors Politicians in the Democratic party that are encouraging to go out every single night on the street and insurrection Right and we are supposed to get all excited because it's like well 158 people got arrested and 80 of them They're already considering prosecuting It's so absurd. I just want you to think for a second imagine anywhere in this country in a red area Right where you had some Republicans that start paying lip service to like we're against Obamacare So we're gonna stop federal authorities for coming in and doing things with Obamacare and all the sudden right wingers just start beaten the shit Out of like the FBI under Joe Biden or something the Marines would have been sent in day one and yet we have cities in this country like Seattle, Portland Now many inapolis where it's perpetual every single day What happens is inevitably it's gonna lead to a conflict with ice and then they get to have their martyrs and clutch their pearls So I'm sorry. It's not enough. It's a good start But I want to see actual people in positions of power start to be held accountable and not just their street communists that they have on the street there Yeah, and you know, I do think it's a good move. I do think it's good news But no, I agree and we were talking about this earlier in the week like I do think Especially the mag of base. They want to see more illegals being removed like that's the goal You know like obviously arresting the larpers and the the protesters. I mean great start But we want to see the illegals being escorted out Well, there's a mathematical formula I talked about this before What they what they're doing what these protesters do is they want the stand-down orders from the locals They don't want any local PD period If there's no local PD then the the feds have to deal with it and every minute that protesters are dealing with feds Who aren't supposed to be doing any sort of riot patrol and aren't even trained for doing that The chances of an incident increases And that's what the entire plan is and has been for a long time We can watch this night after night after night out in front of Portland And we do on the crucible all the time we're watching these people out in front of Portland They're rioting in front of the ice station They do in Minnesota. They do it all over the place and that's what the goal is And so I think what's what's happening here finally is are trying to bring some kind of charges forward so that they can Try to disperse these people But I don't think it's gonna go anywhere if you have the locals and they have a stand-down order Then there's going to be federal agents who have to deal with them in front of these federal facilities And that is inevitably going to lead to conflict with protesters and it's gonna lead to more of the shootings it's gonna lead to more of this type of violence and there's no way around that It's so criminally like Just disgusting with the Democrats the media etc. are doing the problem we have is the Republicans are incapable of winning a narrative Like we literally have people riding remember they freaked out Black Lives Matter happens we see the riots. It's mostly peaceful the media is all on board with it right I had been saying we're doing these debates people like me and answer are doing these debates over and over again with these people I told them the entire summer of love Eventually the rules are gonna change and it's gonna be the rights gonna say oh we're allowed to riot We're allowed to just do that right and when it happens the first time it happens you people lose your mind And you'll say it's the biggest deal in the world But it's predictable because once you tell one side go ahead you could riot with impunity other side's gonna do it January 6th happens now all they do is kick and scream it was an Inceraction kick Trump off the ballot section 30 to 14 the moment he engaged in an Inceraction because he said fight like hell now we're right back to where we started by their definition This is an insurrection on a daily basis and not only is it occurring the media celebrating it the Democratic politicians are Celebrating it saying they need to go further we have people like Don lemon breaking into churches He's getting celebrated at the Grammys AOC saying he did a great jump. They'll see on tape telling people how to de-aressed people right? This is clear construction and based on their definition insurrection and yet we play this game where we have to sit here in hyper Parse anytime there's a violent conflict. Oh, well, was the Renee good shooting good? Oh was the Alex Freddie shooting good? It is inevitable You take any law enforcement agency in the world and put them hundreds upon hundreds of times in conflict with people Against them that are being supported at high levels and inevitably there's going to be a violent altercation the left wants martyrs Imagine being with a group in an organization that's hoping you die So they could stand on your corpse and then Photoshop you like they did Alex Freddie Because you're too much of an ego to be the martyr that they need It's really discussing and I'm tired of the do nothing Republicans incapable of winning this narrative They fall for it every time. Well, let's go frame by frame through this shooting and see yeah Maybe the shooting was good. Maybe it was bad But it's inevitably going to happen again and again and again until people call it out for what it is The left doesn't like the results of an election so they write and their game is if you vote for us We'll stop the rights and we should be tired of it. We should not negotiate with terrorists. Yeah So they essentially you're saying that they're causing They're causing the problem and then promising that they're going to fix the problem that they're causing right? It's exactly it. Yeah, but I also think the base On the conservative side they do want to see action and this you know, I brought up this hypothetical earlier in the week You know those checkpoints and those barricades, you know, how they're funny funny funny But you know, we talked about it last night The locals are saying oh, it's a safe space now. Oh, we're so happy to see these people out there Oh, we're bringing them food and my hypothetical is like why hasn't anybody on the right gone out and done the same checkpoints And the same barricades, you know what I mean? And like really kind of showing them Hey, because you know as soon like you're saying Rob as soon as someone did that people lose their minds But at the same time you're seeing something being done Well, and if you're building barricades out in these streets. What are you preparing for? It's not anything good, right? And that we saw that recently we had protesters protesters going out and they're building barricades Preemptively why so that they can get behind them and after they start you know throwing fireworks and fire bombs at police officers Which is what they do constantly So they're preparing for another summer of love. Mm-hmm. It's happening the fact that these protests have even been able to sustain themselves in this temperature And they use outside agitators they bring them in They've been bringing them in from all over the country We were watching the Minnesota live the day of Don Lemon going in and Creating all the havoc at the church and one of the guys who's out on the street Going protestors to protestors to protestor hey, where are you from none of them were from there They're all from outside areas and they're busing them in because of course people don't want to stay out there and freeze their balls off But agitators will do that And so they're just trying to keep it alive for as long as possible tell the weather warms up And that's when you start to see this thing really pop off again Well, what do you think? I mean, what is the solution here because I know Tim's gone back and forth on this like Trump either needs this Step up or stand down. You got it. You look you got to send in the stormtroopers. Yep That's it. You have to send in the stormtroopers You got to play the imperial march while they're coming in And they got to bring in some orders and they got they got to put them under the boot because If your local police is basically being told to stand down and that's what's happening where the hell are they? I watched him take a guy. There was a guy who was out there Uh, and he had his bullhorn and he was just saying if in a crowd swarmed him They beat him all the way back to his car. It was insanity It was insanity never seen anything like it not a cop and sight where the hell are they Well, the local governments are telling them to stand down. Yep. That's what's going on They're telling they're keeping them away from enforcing anything that's going on with these protests The whole point of that is so that then federal agents They they themselves have to protect the federal buildings which are being surrounded These protesters what they do is they march through the streets And where do they always end in front of the federal building National guard units and things like this are usually dispatched in order to guard those federal buildings And so that's what's that's what's going on They're trying to increase the likelihood of incident between them and federal officers They can point to them and say they're not see fascists and look at what they're doing to us. Right What would be the difference at this point if you sent in the stormtroopers here in order to guard these buildings What are they going to do call you a Nazi and a fascist? No, no, it's a say it's the same thing twice No, but what it is is the the conservatives and the libertarians get very squishy and I heard all week about optics and how bad optics are and we I'm tired of fucking libertarians tired of them. Yeah, but it's like I've just had I've had enough like look The thing is is your way doesn't work It doesn't work through and we need to send we need to send them in we need to send in the first of all Federalize national guards sent them to each one of these ice locations and I mean bolsterum Bolsterum significantly. I'm talking. I want armor on the ground I want armor in front of those ice facilities. I don't want them anywhere near it make them destroy their cities Make them destroy their cities with where the police have the stand-down order where they're riding looting They're they're wrecking their own shops or wrecking their own markets That's when you'll see a public outcry But as long as federal federal law enforcement are continuously having to sweep this up Uh, we have a massive problem and that problem is is that they're going to use a light touch Eventually you're going to have an incident that's when they point and say Nazi fascist dorm troopers Yeah, but the message has to be it's going to be ugly and we have to get used to the fact that it's going to be ugly because the left wants it to be You have to win the PR battle you have to be aggressive and you have to win the PR battle January 6th how many law enforcement officers died right? What was it like four or five right? That's the narrative they beaten our head Actually, not true none did that day, but that's the narrative you want to know why well a lot of officers unalive themselves months later That's how great they were at propaganda they were able to push that narrative I wonder how many ice officers may self harm see is how they can't even be at a hotel without these people riding and trying to take it over And yet where are the Republicans where to the Trump administration telling their story We had an ice officer with this finger bit off the day Alex Freddie was shot. It was out of the news in 20 minutes The Trump administration should be out there daily every time they do a press conference They should have a big screen behind them just showing the violent left riding 24-7 just playing every time They take a question from anyone in the mainstream media and before we get to that question Here's another example of the violent left attacking law enforcement officers again Over and over this was true in Trump term one two remember when they attacked ice facilities and they would take down the American flag and fly the Mexican flag These are people that are funded by big interests that want mass migration and hate the people of this country And the Trump administration needs to push it because I'll tell you this much Ain't gonna be the feckless Republicans many of which allowed this immigration crisis to get out of control in the first time So they're sitting back That's the big like the big well Why don't they end the filibuster to pass some of this stuff one of the dirty little secret because enough people in the Senate the Republicans Don't want Trump's agenda and that's why it's left a trump to go out there and say what you will about him I think he could be doing a better job But it's all on him and his administration to win the PR war and to make all the perfect moves And as soon as something happens like the Alex Freddie situation all the sudden the Republicans come out of the woodwork Well, we don't like this. Maybe it's time to have the dignity act Maybe it's time because that's what they want There's sellouts that want this mass migration to continue about a little compromise It's ridiculous. Right. Can't compromise with terrorists. Well, let's watch the video of the charges here before we move in to Caroline love it Yeah, thank you muted whistles and chance of ice out As federal agents conducted operations in st. Cloud back on January 12th that same day officers made and arrest Detailed in this court document Prosecutors accused Timothy Catlett of giving an officer the middle finger when the officers tried to leave They say Catlett pounded on the hood and kicked the side door of their car the Department of Homeland Security posted his photo on Social media calling him an agitator and then Thursday filed to dismiss its own case Davis Redmond is among the eight others whose photo was posted online by dhs Prosecutors accused Redmond of driving aggressively while following border patrol agents before he suddenly Accelerates his car colliding with the black GMC driven by border patrol Redmond's attorney called the charges bogus and the decision to bring the case outrages Saying the charges were downgraded on Thursday to a misdemeanor In a separate case prosecutors say this federal agent was shoved and punched in the face Britney Stollings is accused of assaulting him Borders artam homin said in the last month 158 people have been arrested accused of impeding officers It's unclear if that number includes cases like Matt Allen better known as Twin Cities rapper Nurdee Our cameras captured the arrest the day Alex Freddie was shot Oh, he's being grabbed by somebody And so I began to run and when I was thrown to the ground he was not running I was told that I was already through it Something a federal officer that's what I was told Nurdee claims he did nothing wrong and told WCCO his attorneys plan to pursue legal action against dhs I send border patrol We did reach out to the attorneys of multiple people dhs posted online and have not heard back from all of them yet Well, let you know. Yeah, please do thanks Nurdee That's a great example of like how they're using this for clout to they're going out there now this guy You know, he's gonna sell some albums fat Albert whatever his name was you know like he's gonna go out there and sell some albums and stuff off this but Nurdee Yeah, Tim brings us playing up all the time they literally think it's a game They literally think they're going out there and the police have fake bullets and you know Some of them do this a lot of the foot soldiers do think it's a larping game But the reason I don't advocate for sending out the stormtroopers on real concern is because in the rules for radicals when you read about a radical attempt that I'm communist takeover you want To get your enemy to to do the mistake they're trying to lol the federal government into becoming the fascist that they're telling them they are and they're like Is if the government cracks down it becomes deadly fascist then the the communists will say see we told you all along now rally to our cause And let's overthrow this government so like the government has to not snap but at the same time Pick up criminals and arrest criminals without becoming the brews that so what's your saying they are what's your solution then Ian Um, it's it's it's not acute. I don't think there's like it one day. It's gonna be fixed um So just keep letting it happen. This is the same. No, it's the same mistake Trump made in the summer of love This is exactly you're right. This is the game. They were setting up the argument going into 2020 is Trump's effect So they kept setting the dominoes will have places like Kenosha will stand down We'll just tell the cops to stand down. We'll do it in New York City We'll do it in Atlanta. We'll do it in Portland We'll do it in the chazzo And then we'll wait for Trump to send in the national guard and then say see he's a fascist The problem is Trump should have sent in the national guard because at some point if you're like well We're worried that if we do this they'll use this to weaponize and make us look like the bad guys Okay, then the alternative is don't do it leave them call you the bad guys anyways and get away with this with impunity What they should have been doing when this started in LA. This is what I would have done sent declare the interaction act or sending the national guard whatever the courts allow you Which is a joke in its own right and then go out during the day Go to your home depot go everywhere. I'll breath every time they ride get five times more legal the next day Send five times more border patrol and then at night Take them all back to the federal buildings protect the federal building and let them burn let them burn down the city Go ahead you go burn down LA leave the LAPD deal with it We're just gonna protect our little area you guys who you come in our area We're gonna throw the book at you. We're gonna rest you throw the book But you gotta go loot go for it. We don't care do it every day until finally there like and then you have to win the PR war as well I agree with that portion of it But we cannot allow the left to be like well We're allowed to just ride and do whatever we want with impunity if we don't win Knowing that if you guys try to crack down will say oh my goodness here the communist matches Meanwhile when you guys lose will go after your lawyers will go after everyone connected to Trump We'll go after you for mortgage claims We'll have sedition hunters that we now know the government was paying to watch all these videos on youtube's to go after blue hair Grammons they'll throw around their way and no one calls all the media no one's calling them fascists or anything like that So I'm tired of it like maybe you're right and maybe it ends up worse I don't care though the status quo is just me getting trampled on over and over again Well the people that lose get to use violence whenever they want I can't accept it well Yeah, what does he what does he have to lose? What does Trump have to lose so if the democrats weep in in the midterms And they may they very well may they're gonna impeach him again He'll be the thriesome peach president and that will be the legacy of his entire administration will be that he's battling a third impeachment Right that's that's what it's gonna be So what does Trump have to lose at this point By fighting back a little bit by sending in the federal troops How's that going to defame him more or hurt him more than if he doesn't It might not harm his his career it to send him in but I'm concerned for just the the statute or what it would set as a precedent for a president Just to unilaterally send national guard into cities against the will of the governor I mean they've already done that though. They did that during the civil rights Right when they wanted to make sure that That little black kids could go to school the President he federalized the national guard And that was against the will of the governor. So there is precedent for it. That's one and two The the situation dictates at this point if you have local governors local mayors and local democrats who refuse to enforce local law And they're allowing the federal buildings to get surrounded How do you deal with that Except to reinforce the federal buildings like I don't even see how you do it any other way Well, on the other thing I keep hearing is PR battle PR battle PR battle and like what we keep forgetting is the base Lawns trump, you know, 10 they the mega base wishes trump was 10% of the authoritarian that the left says he is and You know to what you're saying right I do exactly so what you're saying Rob like they win the PR battle Bites put in the boot down like we keep worrying about what the other side and what people at you know don't really matter think It's like the PR battle is one when he goes out there and he you know puts the boot down and stops this no no That's his base. That's his relations with his base. That's a public relations is everybody That's pulling Well, are you gonna change a leftist mind at this point right there? Maybe he's they're gonna believe that he's a fascist no matter what right They're all playing for this small block of the undecided so which there's I don't even think there's that many of them anymore And what's happening right now is people people want action They're sick of seeing these lunatics on the street doing this day in and day out They don't understand why the government is so hamstrung and it's due largely in part the advice that they're given Especially through the libertarian arm Telling them look optics optics optics optics. We're past optics on this yep We're way past optics on this and by the way They're winning the optics war through the inaction So there needs to be action and trump has nothing to lose and we have nothing to lose by rolling it all here on red Another Outcome that could be bad is if They are like in order to collect these 20 million illegal immigrants We need to set up our spy tech network through Palantir We need to start using satellites to read your biometric data through walls with radio telescopes We're gonna be spying on you while you sleep We're gonna read your DNA from a distance no more fourth amendment But we it's for your safety. We have to get rid of these illegals. It's so important isn't it then bow down like that I don't want that but no one said anything about that We're talking about sending people on the ground to get the violent left This is like I can't hear you have like and stop ruining businesses. Here we have a happy medium of like oh you just have to show your ID to vote Yeah, and not oh you have to give up biometric fingerprint data You know, I feel like the libertarians constantly do this. They're constantly pushing this idea That it's either 1984 George Orwell right or no law and order whatsoever and it's like no You know we can we can have reasonable laws the idea that you need to show ID to vote the idea that You need to follow some basic laws of the land I think it's fine and I don't think that that's crossing any Rubicon's I don't think that that's you know your dishwasher talk I don't think people are supporting your dishwasher Spying on you and your cell phone spying on you and your computer spying on you and biometric hacking They don't want any of that But they do want to legals not be able to vote in our elections They do want to make sure that illegals can't get public welfare Uh, with you know by by just petitioning for it with no ID no nothing Why can't we have some happy medium here? I don't even feel like that's a medium. I feel like that's just the mean And I just like I agree with you right. I don't want that either There's still part a little remnants of like the libertarian adjacent in me So I don't want that problem is isn't it interesting how we always come up with this when it comes to doing the things that the American people want or people like me want right so when Obama's in office like no problem patreon act George Bush no problem patreon act fourth amendment shredded no problem at all But when it comes to like keeping our country secure from legal immigrants now the sudden well there's privacy concerns Under the last administration I had to listen to left tell me over and over then I needed to have a vaccine card to go out and do anything They needed to see everything about my medical history They needed to be able to look into my banking information if I ever went to like uh, you know A january six rally or anything like that But now all of a sudden those people are like well, you're a bootlicker and you're invading people's privacy If you want to be able to make sure that people are legal or else we kicked them out That's too far so I'm sorry at some point this game begins exhausting Where the one side place for keeps and they're like we'll be the most authoritarian but well start a disinformation board to Since it will collaborate with twitter trying to censor people of social media But as soon as you're like hey, can we have an idea to vote? Can we kick out of legals? Well now there's privacy concerns. I'm just sorry I think that it's right that we should focus on making sure things don't go too far But the problem is so bad the other way right now We have to start making inroads and hopefully cooler heads prevail and we make sure it doesn't go too far But at this point I'm all for deportations deport them all And I'm all for voter ID and I don't have privacy concerns about either of them And we can't we can't fool ourselves in the thinking of government can't get into our devices I mean Facebook knows when you have to take a shit. I mean like come on Yeah, all the stuff you have on that phone in front of you knows exactly what you're doing at all time 24-7 it's reporting you I mean that's why when you say okay device name it turns on because it's listening to you the whole time Exactly. I was all about sending in the National Guard in 2020 day one of that riot I walked downstairs. We're going to Tim pool at the time. I walked down Pro where's the National Guard and he was like I don't know I don't know and then three days went by and I'm like where's the fucking National Guard? It was in a key but the problem is that was a riot an acute issue that could be dealt with and quelled this pulling people out of their houses and evicting like getting illegal immigrants out of here Isn't an acute issue that can be like Tamped down overnight or in four days with National Guard It's like a chronic Situation that could take seven years so I don't want National Guard flooding city streets But it's not the National Guard pulling people out of houses The reason the National Guard's necessary is because people like many inapolis won't cooperate with ICE And then they have their people on the street attacking the actual Border Patrol and ICE people That's why you need the guard to protect that because the local police stand out You remember there was a actual audio that we have from the police in Chicago. This is months ago where they're like Yeah, we're dispatching Officers to this scene ice agents say that they're being rammed by a car And then the officer comes back because like um we were told to back down to not send that and you could tell the officer in the line It's like really we had we had reports of ICE agents saying that they called out to federal officers for help And they weren't getting it there was an incident where they were in a hotel room And they called out for help they couldn't get any help there either so Yeah, we can't you can't prove definitively that There stand down orders, but it sure seems like their stand down orders, right? It sure looks like their stand down order. Did you see the clip the other day of it was at the hotel where ICE was supposedly staying And there's this like badass footage of this like one officer that's holding the port He ends up like someone throws a brick or something. Yeah, he's covered in blood And like I saw that clip. Yeah, it is on x you just scroll through and sometimes you don't listen to the audio I clicked on the one audio and the guys yelling this is like he wasn't even ICE He was like some like security guy and he's like where are the local police? Where are they there is a violent mob attacking me trying to break into this building And then there's a clip of the cop starts coming and what do I do turn right around yeah And at some point that's what's going on and this is why it's a risk he wants the cops high five women Portland Right so bad. I mean like you can see footage after footage you see people like Nick Sorter and others that are going out Yeah, Cam. He's another one out there all the time camp and they get the ship eat out of them right and the local police What was the woman the one woman this was a couple months ago She gets smacked in the face with like a flag right and she follows the woman that hit her and she gets a cop It's like here right here in the cop talk store and that she starts screeching I'm under age let me up in the cop just let's her go yeah, and it's like it's some point If law enforcement doesn't act here's what's gonna happen and I predicted this before written house What happens is if you say listen? Here's the deal the left gets to right with impunity local police stand down And we don't want the feds to go on to do it people are gonna take matters into their own hand They're gonna say okay. We're gonna see roof Koreans You're gonna see people are like that's it We're not gonna be intimidated So we'll take to the streets ourselves now you got a real problem now all the sudden It's like we got a situation where a group of pro-ice people are gonna be like them We'll go out in the streets and we'll stop them and unfortunately From that perspective because the left is one the culture war for so long the right can't get away with that They'll bring the hammer down on the right as soon as you try to do that So when this weird position where the best case scenario I think even from a libertarian perspective is to say law enforcement must step in right now And if the local law enforcement's unwilling to do it then the next next things did declare the insurrection act and protect our ice officers If you don't like the deportations then go vote But right now we voted and by the way also to your point and the PR point consistently Trump pulls lower than his right wing positions So in other words, nasty portations are more popular than Trump right now And so I think Trump's team's telling him like we have to back off from some of this because you know We're gonna lose the midterms. I think the truth is the opposite Yeah, I think if he would go more inundepaint in these things That you would actually see more support for him I think it is pop not a not a single step back you're not backing down whatsoever I think that that's the move and I don't think he has much to lose by doing it I think he has very very little to lose so you make a really good just this last Yes, you do make a really good point about someone needs to exact the monopoly on force right now and someone will yep That's exactly right Yeah, and like it was sad look like I'm not here. I think written house was well within his rights right But there's a young man that will have to live with the fact that he had to shoot and kill someone And why because the local police set there five of the dark way looks like he's doing okay Well, I think he's doing I think he's doing okay, but nonetheless like it shouldn't get to that It should not and it was predictable and I understand from the libertarian perspective It's like well, we don't want the cops going in busting skulls look come with you I don't want to see national garden of street But I also want to see local law enforcement doing something I wouldn't want to see right wingers riding with impunity in any city when they don't get their way Looting stores attacking law enforcement I would understand and say even if these people Technically voted for the same candidate is me you can't do that That is not something that we should be allowed to do We should all draw the line at using violence in order to get your way politically But the problem is the left has been doing this since the days of Saul Linsky since the days of the weather underground You can see almost every single time that there's a right wing president that you see these left wing rides And we've just come to accept it. Yeah, you know, May 30th 2020 yet a bunch of left wingers that tried to break into the White House This is when Trump had to be moved to a bunker. Yeah, and by the bunker boy. Yeah, by and made fun of them Told him to go back to his bunker and all that stuff You know why that they didn't get into the White House because everybody knew I knew it you knew it Every single secret service agents knew it all the law enforcement know the left's gonna ride They're gonna ride and with January six. They didn't expect that now. I think that they intentionally set it up But It's so ubiquitous with the left. Well, of course, they're gonna ride of course We've just come to accept it And so at this point, it's just like we're not even upset about it because yeah, that's what the left does They just ride every time they feel like it so sure they'll be law enforcement there They could protect the president but other than that they're just gonna run ramp it through the streets of DC or Portland or Seattle or wherever and I'm sorry It's some point people are losing faith in our legal system where they could look out and they can see this happen over and over and over again Meanwhile, we live in this anarcho tyranny where if you know you get a speeding to you go ahead If you don't like what your local government's doing ram your car into them see if you get a misdemeanor Your ass is going to jail for a long time so people are fed up including myself. Yeah, right. Yeah Yeah, you ain't getting your bill fund I think that's a really good point moving right into that this comes in From I guess an in-house reporter. Here's that is that correct? Yeah, a lot of a lot of a lot of nice. Am I pronouncing that right? I mean, yeah, a lot of the legend a lot Who Okay, press secretary Carolyn Levitt answers questions on department of Homeland Security On demasking demands from the Democrats to fund DHS Levitt says it's something the White House will be discussing with lawmakers Let's play the video Give it to me Carolina want it DHS funding was to Dmask ice agents one of the Democrats made demands for DHS funding was to Dmask ice agents is this something that the president is considering again, okay? I'm also here for a second in the letter that went out and we'll we'll back the video up in just a second here, but Notice the focal the focal point here demasking ice agents Right, so what's been going on in my opinion is a mass terror campaign Which is reminiscent of whether underground and the left demands That ice agents be unmasked and this way they can dox them They can get that dox out to people who will actually affect some sort of terror against these agents That's what's actually happening in real time and that's what the concern is That concern is legitimate. We've seen these people before surround people's houses We've seen them before good they went to Tucker Carlson's house They will harass these agents and they will doxer families And they're happy to do it now they claim on their side Wait a second. We have a right to know who these people are their public service officials And they shouldn't be out here masked up that comes with the territory So how do you solve that from the libertarian brism? And yeah, I think you need to allow them to be masked personally It's kind of like I guess this is the beginning of the stormtrooper literally This is why they will wear full body armor So you don't know who's who and plausible deniability you can't go after their families But like are we the empire? I don't know. I don't want to be but this republic is like on its deathbed right now Where are the voices on the left? Where are the voices on the left gun? You know what maybe we should stop our people from attacking ice Maybe we should stop people like Larry Krasner who's the like a G or whatever the DA in Philadelphia So like we're gonna go after every ice agent with Nuremberg type trials. We're gonna unmask you all Afterwards, there's like you put them in this untenable situation where it's like hey if you do this work that the people voted for Lefties are gonna hunt you down and hunt your family down, right? And the politicians of the left are gonna basically pay lip service They won't say be violent, but they're gonna say oh you'll never work in California again if you work for ice Oh, we'll find out who you are. Oh, we're gonna go after you with Nuremberg trials Like we're in this situation where it's like all of the problems are starting because we've allowed the left to be violent And no one will call it out. They're just like well, we don't like the symptom We don't like the fact that now they're wearing masks They wouldn't have to wear masks if the left didn't get away with riding with impunity over Well, they pretend we also pretend that just laughing at them will do this All we just laugh at them because they're silly right exactly stupid weak soy boys blah blah blah blah blah blah But with no action yet that that's not working you can't just laugh at them We have to take actual action here And if we don't take action here and the administration doesn't take action here They're gonna continue and they're going to win this Overwhelmingly so yeah, there's no voices on the left because this is what they want to see I mean they literally you know, and there's a lot of low information people on the left I get it because they're like oh, you know, we like brown people and oh, you know Tears for brown people or whatever, but um you have you know the the people that are actually doing these actions admit this stuff I mean we saw it in Minnesota where they were going after the hotels They were working with local businesses to figure out where ice was staying what they were doing the rental car places That were giving them the cars. I mean this is a part of their plan. They want to dox them They want they want their their identities well I know they're gonna harass them. They're not gonna harass them by going after the agents They're gonna go after their families. That's how they always do it They always make the opinion to go after the families a demoralizing it's a it's a demoralization campaign It's don't you don't come out here because if you do there's gonna be consequences maybe not to you But how much are you willing to put up with for a job when it comes to your loved ones? Yeah And the answer to that question for many is not much Not much, right? Like like just look you talked about Tucker like just look at some recent examples here We have let's we forget Charlie Kirk being assassinated to assassination attempts against Donald Trump He had Kavanaugh would be assassin going to his house Just the other day we had a OMB Russ bot someone was arrested outside of his house That was screaming about project 2025 that was apparently trying to take his life, right now Imagine that you saw Charlie Kirk happen and the paper of record the New York Times comes out the next day with in 24 hours And puts out an article that they then had to put a retraction at the bottom of 24 hours later and it says Yesterday's clip said that Charlie Kirk had said some anti-Semitic things on his channel while this is true He was quoting someone else and then rebutting it right almost ubiquitously the Democrats came out and were like well Charlie's a fascist basically wink wink nudge nudge he had it coming then what do they call ice well? You're fascist too and we're gonna unmask you. We're gonna come for you knowing full well that there are stormtroopers Just like the people you saw of our social media making fun of Charlie Kirk dying and saying more people should deserve it All these ice people see this you see it you see the mass movement of the people calling for your head And then when you look and you see what the mainstream narrative is with the Democratic party You're basically getting wink wink nudge yeah, we're coming for you And so the entire point is we want you unmasked we want you fearful because we want to intimidate Law enforcement to not take action when we are in power meanwhile we can of course be masked That's right. We can of course be completely masked We can show up to these things without having to show our face of course because we're not public servants And so in this way the law the law is being weaponized against the lawful And that needs to stop and it needs to stop immediately Let's watch the rest of this one of the Democrats made demands for dhs funding was to Demask ice agents Is this something that the president is even considering again? This is one of the specific points in the the letter that went out By Senate majority leader Schumer and he came Jeffries. I won't Negotiate the individual points from the podium, but it is obviously something the White House will be discussing With lawmakers on Capitol Hill in the coming days Is the administration concerned that the shakeup that we're seeing of dhs activity in Minneapolis could potentially embolden different Abstructionist protestors around the country as they now have a playbook on how to get ice out of their cities um No because What you saw yesterday with the drawdown of 700 agents only occurred because the condition that the president of the United States set For local states Local counties to turn over illegal aliens to ice has been met and as for the left-wing agitators who have been Allegedly obstructing ice's immigration efforts We are not letting that behavior go unnoticed or unpunished in fact just today the Department of Homeland Security arrested this individual He is a self-proclaimed antifa member Who has been threatening doxing harassing ice He called for the murder of federal law enforcement officers He encouraged bloodshed in the streets of Minnesota He proudly acclaimed affiliation with the domestic terrorist organization Antifa and the Department of Justice thanks to the great work of the of HSI and the FBI Where it was able to locate and arrest this individual today You know, I love how I love how she holds it up, you know like this is this is such a great achievement Yeah, okay, okay Finally got this domestic terrorist Right this looks to me rob like pure cope. Yeah, this looks like Am I wrong? How can you be devil's advocate here? I'll give you devil's advocate So what we are hearing on the ground and from the leftus is that you know the ice presence and the deportations and stuff are still going on and are just as strong as Before this the quote-unquote stand-down order and the idea that home and going in You know doing what he did was just to kind of get the the PR the public to kind of go Low back to sleep and forget about it and maybe talk about you know Obama monkey videos or whatever Um, so like I guess I'll throw that caveat in there to you guys I mean as far as like playing devil's advocate. What do you think if that was their strategy? You know is this is a smile It's silly is it look it's it on its face. It's silly. They got exactly what they wanted We got the fascist out It doesn't matter the deportations were going on under Biden at these facilities. They didn't care Has nothing to do with that has to do with get the fascist and get the fascist out What that reporter asked was brilliant question He puts it back on them He says look if it's the case that now Uh, now that they have a playbook And they can prove it's it's proven to work That if they agitate enough you will do a drawdown because you're gonna make a deal you've given them all the leverage Now Trump's supposed to be the master of the art of the deal So how's that a good deal? You don't give the leverage over to the domestic terrorists That's crazy and that's what it looks like is happening to me The reality is less important than the perception here, right? Because right now if you're a person considering going on the street and riding in say Portland or Atlanta any city, right? You're like well, did it work? Am I gonna get in trouble? Did it work most of them are getting away with this with impunity I could show you video after video of CBP and ice pulling people over for obstructing them and saying okay You need to go home now every single one of those people that you let go is a riot that's occurring in the future Because people are emboldened by the fact that they're able to obstruct basically with impunity Sure, we got the worst of the worst and that's good at least that's if we assume that's what they did Nonetheless, you should be going after all these people So what happens is the perception even if you're right even if you're right It's like yeah, but this is really all they wanted and let's be honest I think at least with us three maybe you as well, you know, I don't know Trump's not as hardline on immigration as we are. I want them all gone All of them. I used to have a big heart no more Trump's out there saying well, we're just gonna get the worst of the worst now Take them all but let's assume that's not the case and they just want the worst of worst could this be seen as a victory Maybe but perceptually what it looks like is you negotiated with terrorists Yeah, and when you do that the terrorists saying oh boy All's we have to do is keep using this playbook over and over so for me This is just going to ensure as you said we have several love 2.0 We're gonna see rights all over the country when the weather gets better. I mean I agree. I was just giving you a devil's advocate because that is the position you're stuck with it Listen I literally want checkpoints out there I want I so in West Virginia they stopped to do these checkpoints for like sobriety Where they'll pull people over and they check and see are you drunk or whatever Why aren't we doing that for citizenship? Like what you know I was so oh there'll be the Gestapo that's optically terrible like Why can't we do that we could do that if someone's drunk but not if they're a citizen Look, I give Trump a lot of leeway and this is why he's the only person that's moved the over to window on this issue Republicans for years were just doing nothing Republicans right now in the Senate are what have they done? Like someone tell me what the Republicans have accomplished here one with the House with the Senate and the President Nothing they do nothing. They're not enshrining any of Trump's executive orders Nothing and so I get it Trump's fighting a basically a one-man battle that I understand But the truth of the matter is he could be doing a lot better. You want to end this? You know what you do? Start going after the employers Yeah, go after all these places that you know are intentionally hiring these illegals That's what you do you keep doing these raids Right, but you let it be known like that's it. We're gonna. I'm allowed to enforce the laws the admit it Are the executive and we're gonna enforce the law against the employers But instead Trump's gonna be like well actually I talked to a lot of our great farm producers and factories And these illegals are good and if we kicked him out we'll have to replace him with bad people It's nonsensical and so it's what do you do with the employers though Find them then jail them see I go even further deport them to the countries Those say caught the people that they were employing absolutely you send one or two business owners to Somalia or to Mexico You know what I mean? That's gonna stop real quick. You're right. Trump isn't super hard line on deportation He's super hard line on stopping immigration. Yeah, and he basically did that now the deportation He was pretty clear. He doesn't want to disrupt the American business I kind of understand it if we're really facing a birth crisis. We're gonna need a workforce Maybe that's what this is all about is that was this big importation Biden literally said surge the border when he was running for president in 2019 or something so GDP go up GDP go up GDP go up I can't wait for the AI. I know there's a lot of people are like oh AI this AI this I can't wait I can't wait until it just takes over we don't need the labor force You know the the machines are gonna do The work I've already shared my homeless idea on the show many times how to put the homeless to work and the AI machines I really there's clever ways that we can do things. It's so Fairies. It's so disgusting the same again. It's this dialectic They create the problem and then say you have to go to them to solve it So they create the problem of sort of pushing this materialistic world view that basically encourages feminism for women to not want to be mothers anymore Then that puts women in the workforce what makes it very unaffordable to have children And then after all that they're like oh shucks. We're not having enough kids now. We have to import third world immigrants Which by the way have to be our global agenda in the first place So you know for me I think that there is a way in the short term to keep immigrants or have people go home and then bring the ones back based on a merit-based system that we need But I think the cases overstate it look at all the problems that are coming if you watch best in it the other day talk in front of Congress He was like look we're gonna start to see rent prices and home prices go down Why because hundreds of thousands of people have not millions that we're kicking out that we're competing and increasing the demand for those housing things Young people right now can't afford houses and we're telling them will listen Sorry, we got a mass bring in people from India and illegal immigrants etc That are going to be these homeowners and right all of these places and where are they putting them in the affordable housing areas? They're getting loans they're getting these loan programs that are designed for young people to be able to afford houses They're going to people on each one be visas Now the whole point of the H-1b is you're supposed to be here temporary right? So why are you purchasing a home with government money government back loans the whole things a joke right and it's designed to sort of screw over The American citizen is always last and yeah, you're right GDP up. I don't care about GDP to the extent that that means That a bunch of people get wealthy that weren't in this country in the first place Why don't I care about my neighbor that's a citizen and his fortunes? I don't care your skin color any of that But I care about that person not well, hey that person's unemployed now because we brought some dude in from India Or some illegal migrant came over and does that jump for five dollars less, but look GDP up It's not it's not but it's not even GDP up. It's bottom line up because the GDP would stay the same If you paid Americans more to do the jobs that the H-1b's and the illegal immigrants are doing right now The GDP would stay the same the American citizens would just make more money. I mean, so yeah, it's not even a GDP up thing It's a bottom line go up. We want to make more money. We want cheap labor. Yeah, but that's what we're talking about is the leftist talking point So remember Rob professionally debates with leftists and one of the The arguments that they make more than anything else. We need their GDP to go up But leftists don't understand anything about business. I agree. They say I'm not saying leftists aren't totally retarded. They are. I'm just pointing out what that actually mean is bottom line Yeah, they want GDP go up. So so we mock them for that all the time But what we're getting at here in the critical issue kind of to move it back to this Um, if we had if we if we had a choice if we had the choice right now Trump send in the stormtroopers now Lock it all down now nationwide before there even is Signs of a protest. Should he do it? I think that the answers. Yes Yeah, lock it all down. I would say no Be only if there is a riot then lock it down in my opinion, but There's no it's just doesn't seem bad enough. What do you do in a place like Portland? Where let me make a bold prediction You ready? Mm-hmm. They're gonna riot in Portland next week Hmm, let's see that comes. Yeah, it does it's like time to call you mark it right now. Oh everyone's a millionaire I agree with you. I don't want them to like all right I'm not so hard line that I want them to be like man baton Rouge Let's send the Marines to baton Rouge right now because maybe they'll be all right What I'm saying is it is entirely predictable the areas that aren't cooperating and having law enforcement standing down And the point's not to have the Marines in there enforcing the law the point is to create law and order right That we're going to have a show of force that will prevent the necessity for border patrol to have a situation like Alex Border patrol should not be in the business of having to try to deport the Legals While simultaneously protecting themselves from people that are using an app to instruct people how to create flashpoints and Instruct them now if anything remember there were people arrested on January 6th that never entered the capital that weren't even there that day But they went through their telegram messages and other things said we think this is a big conspiracy You know in order to have an insurrection We are literally talking about signal apps that are giving people instructions on how to create altercations with law enforcement They're literally having with it. Yeah, they have license plate readers right where they're doing all the stopping people on the road and checking their IDs We just accept it. I know it's crazy and and it is amazing like you you have to tip your cap to the impressive propaganda That they get away with it. I know that like you talk to your normal friend that they're like all that Alex pretty shooting was bad And you're like yeah, but you don't see what's happening every single day every single day like they're Increating this you literally if you're in an uber there Did you see this video the other day the guy had an uber driver who's like I think from the blazer something and his uber driver was like You know look to be of African descent and like they run his plate and they're like we have you with ice, but clearly you're not Yeah, it was like Like it is the idea and it builds a rage in me and I'm assuming a bunch of other people where it's like Why do we have to accept these losers having authority over us screw that none of us voted for that It's outrageous and it's some point you're gonna see more and more conflicts So for me it's not an escalation It's a de-escalation to be like look if law enforcement's not gonna do their job of protecting It's an unfair burden to put on ice and CBP to carry out their duties and protect themselves from left wing mobs So we're gonna put a show force around them to let them go do their jobs not to be aggressive We don't want the Marines out there arresting people for you know like speeding violations But they should be there as a protective force No, you're gonna riot then we're gonna send in we're gonna declare the insurrection and by the way You can do this at federal buildings now yeah, you're right the those are federal buildings There's no reason why you can't deploy only to the federal buildings But what they're saying is no we don't want even troops at the federal buildings and it's like no He has the authority to do that and he's always had the authority to do that They can lock their own federal buildings down That's where the points always will be so they're always gonna march to the streets and end At those federal buildings or they're gonna start at the federal buildings march around and end back at the federal building So I don't know why not preemptively lock them down during the winter right we have it in reverse now summer is coming Right summer is coming outside during covid was to riot right yeah, that was it And you know we used to arrest people for impersonating police officers and you see these people in the streets and Minneapolis They literally look official you don't even they're out there checking IDs I mean that's it's just I never thought I'd see that in my life Section three of the 14th amendment that the Democrats and Colorado used to try to keep Trump off the ballot Right says if you engage in an insurrection you had an oath of pomp as you can't run again the only reason the spring court ruled against that was they were like well you basically can't do that to the president Right, but that would apply to anybody that holds an oath You tell me why aOC out there instructing people on how to obstruct law enforcement and ice as we see based on the left-scent definition You know being you debated how many times the lefties an insurrection is it's like up four parts that they use it He's from these guys Bowdoin Paulson It's like a for a public good. It's a gathering of like a group of people using violence and intimidation to resist a law or a lawful action That's an insurrection every day multiple of them that we see and as these are ongoing We have these democratic politicians that are paying lip service to every single day and not one Republicans been like remove these people from office Not one and that's when I find out rages. It it must be so great to be a Democrat and actually have a party That's willing to go back for you and willing to be aggressive for you Instead what we get's like now wait a minute Maybe we should have a pathway to dignity Maybe we should we have to worry about optics like I'm tired of that and if you're play this through game theory long enough And you've just gone a little too far this time. It's too much. That's too much. Oh that pretty sure There wasn't good. It's ridiculous. Well, let's move on from there guys Wait, Rob can you can you finish me you were saying if you game theory it then what happened? Oh, yeah, the game theory design Oh, give me like 40 minutes. Okay. I just wrote a game theory decide that's willing to play for keeps is gonna win if you play that game over and over again That's what's gonna happen. Yeah, and so we're we find ourselves in this position where it's like if we keep saying well Let's leave cooler heads prevail Why did cancel cultures start to end because the right started to play correct? Right for a year's people like me We're like don't play that game. Well, what happened? So you're like hey, but like we're no longer buying you everyone was like Oh, wait a minute. I'm disappointed with Trump on the the monkey video like standby. Yeah, I agree. Yeah Andrew made an awesome argument earlier with straight arrayed about I think she was a self-eviled says she was communist And then Andrew's asking where she thought rights came from and she was like well, I think they're just like Arbitrary, you know rights are just kind of like whoever has the authority. He's like then why would I ever how did you phrase it? Why would I ever give you rights that you believe don't exist? Yeah It was the way you guys got a right to read though. What's that she's great shadow. It was a great episode It was a great conversation check out the culture war from earlier if I haven't seen it yet Andrew Thank you for allowing me to pick Rob's brain Yeah, of course absolutely Your guys are so well. I'm a benevolent dictator So you're welcome for that this coming up to Scott Bessent and he says the IRS is about to hit banks with sweeping audits over the role in washing Minnesota money Let's let's play that for funds and addition to helping support criminal and civil enforcement efforts The IRS will also soon announce the formation of a task force that civil enforcement is auditing financial institutions That facilitated the laundering of Minnesota funds and addition to helping support criminal and civil enforcement Efforts No I mean Repeated listen, I have a take on this. It's not gonna be popular. I have no I've zero faith in this I have no faith in the IRS. I mean this is the same organization that lost to Scientology in the 90s because They were killing their dogs and like going in their houses and stuff and they got scared of the sign Just one federal organization left people afraid of and I am not I have zero faith in it I mean, you know, I mean if you look at our tax system. It's a nightmare Actually being something that pays into the system and like left us I can tell you like they have no idea what they're doing. So now I I don't I don't think this is Well, the problem with these okay, I'll back that up somewhat the problem with these executive agencies is right Remember lowest learner at the IRS when they were targeting the conservative groups Everybody's like what did Obama sit her down and like hey, you know, we should do no Because what happens is the left is embrace this idea that they are morally superior And so no one need to say a word the ends always justify the means So whatever position you're put into in the executive branch great go ahead and abuse that in order to justify your means because after all Bums great right Biden's great Kamala's great and the other people's evil so do whatever you want So yeah, I mean even if you have people running the IRS that are stretching for this will be on the ground agents Many of which are gonna be radical lefties Which is why they got in the government position in the first place? Are they gonna enforce it? I don't know but the other side to that though is this is exactly what we should be doing You could play whack them all with the you know street communists psychopaths that are out there have them Warping and it's not gonna put that much of a dent But if you start going after the actual people that are funding them now all the sudden you'll start to see results I agree we should be a wallet right hitting the wallet is always the thing that is the most effective And it's one of the most powerful tools of the US government freezing assets hitting the wallet in this case you got a domestic terror group going after their wallet seems like it's Completely fine. Of course in this though in Minnesota. They're talking about something else. They're looking at the funding Which is happening all around all of this fraud that they've seen and that apparently that's what this is about so The the fraud the fraud itself what I don't understand about this is What the hell is the IRS going to do here? What are they looking for exactly exactly a task force for for what exactly and why haven't they done in the last 10 years That's what I'm saying instead of getting on here and doing the speech where Ian literally thought was AI like do the action first and then reported I don't want your lip service. I don't want to say oh we're gonna go after this. I'll rest some people show to you know Show the public. Hey, this is what we did. Hey, this is why we missed it the last 10 years Hey, we're sorry like your taxpayers. We're gonna go into Somalia Sorry about that. Maybe give us an explanation like I don't know man I feel we're one strongly worded letter away from like turning the corner right And the result I think that the IRS has new digital tools that they want to test now on the American people We're gonna start it somewhere on people that will get behind them and say yes Yes, use your new technocratic means to crush my enemies. Oh in eight years. You mean you're gonna use it on me? I didn't mean unleash that beast but darn it But anyway, it seems inevitable anyway like the digitization of the economy the time I go in a crypto economy You're gonna have complete control of assets banks can already debank you if you say bad words on TV Nick Fuentes for instance That's not the bad word. That's the guy who got debanked But it's not gonna be it's not gonna make them more effective at their job. Good save Ian You're sick Yeah, we like Fuentes down debates on well help me out here too um A lot of people were saying that a lot of this is to cover up from the massive fraud Which was uncovered recently at these various daycare centers And that's what a lot of these protests are now About is the local governments trying to cover their ass So the question becomes you're putting on your tinfoil hat Ian Do you think that there's some merit to that? Do you think that a lot of this was the Local government they're involved in this fraud trying to obfuscate away from it And successfully it seems has changed the national conversation Away from the rampant fraud which was going on Well, we pretty much are to say yes, I think that is true But damn that's I cannot discount that that is possible I think about it with the Epstein stuff too I feel like that's a federal red herring that they want us to all complain in lapel They're preparing for war and Iran and crashing the US economy and getting us on crypto or gold Yeah, that's totally possible. I mean that that daycare fraud came huge story And then a week later riots and right well and and George Santos came and I think he hit it on the head Like you would think this is a slam dunk for the Republicans ago after this fraud But he hit it on the head. He's like look this this is both parties both parties are taken this money Both party you know, and I mean like it's across the board That's why there isn't any action on this that's what's been going on for 10 years most exciting part of the Trump administration was doge Right, and they they absolutely nailed it Yeah, I know he's been on the show before but Mike Benz He's been on a tear here talking about like the EU right and their censorship efforts of X But one of the things he talks about is how the United States through cutouts like the Atlantic Council and other NGOs are actually sort of pressuring The European Union to censor X so that it could censor Americans right It's the same thing with the rest of these NGOs. That's what they're talking about with the IRS going after it's like You set up this cutout right then you need a patty so you go to these small ins you know, it's an insular community Hey, hey, well, give you all this money. You keep a chunk of it our board keeps a big chunk of it And it's so funny when they wander it. Yeah, so I forget then I'm It's at their leering center. They're leering. Yeah, you know, they leering this is a house of leery. Yes I'm leering a lot tonight. Yeah, there's a lot of leery It is Spanish though, right? Lear is a read I don't know man. We speak American yeah, we do Usually use like just one word of the Spanish Right imagine if you're like let's just say you're you know going back to black people upset with the Trump thing Okay, fine fair enough whatever imagine that you're black and you live in many anapolis and you're like I'd like to start a daycare I've lived here my whole life my parents lived here their parents lived here. You're struggling Can't make ends meet you got five kids you're trying to watch meanwhile someone comes over from Somalia Barry speaks the language they're getting millions dollars and they have no kids at their center Yeah, right? It's it is so on its face like these NGOs that do this stuff It's so laughable and the woman that was charged I forget her name But every time I debate a lefty on this they this is what they do. They're like uh, well did you know that the woman who's the case is named of the 71 people She's a white lady. It's like yeah white lady suck too. Yes, absolutely. I'm well aware that there are white Democrats that are setting this all up And yes, they should go to prison too, but as always they try to lump it in like oh, it's just because you hate Somalians No, it's because I hate the fraud that's coming in by the way send all the illegal Somalians Were you asking out were you suggesting that the NGOs are funding? They just pick a patty organization like we'll do Somalians and Minneapolis or Minnesota right now and then that gives the IRS basically you know A right to now go do some new technocratic authoritarian behavior. Was that what you're saying? It's new technocratic like I don't think it's any surprise that the IRS has tools and the ability and the want to audit the shit out of people right and so when you have an organization that is geared on investigating finances the idea that we wouldn't use those tools to save billions upon billions of dollars that's being used fraudulately seems to be ridiculous Now do I want the IRS to like develop new like you know Telepathic powers and some shit or whatever you know some crazy tech part maybe not But I think utilizing the IRS when there's clearly things that are going wrong. I mean after all how they get out? Right tax evasion so the idea it's like look if one of the ways we could get these people Is to show that through their fraud that they're supporting these financial institutions There are problems that showed up on their taxes. I'm all for it. The IRS isn't gonna do shit They're not they haven't done shit in 10 years out there the only People they punish or the people that are actually paying in the actual net taxpayers at paying to the system Those are the people that I punish that's that's all they're good at they're only going after they're only good at going after people actually are Let's take a look at this video the protesters keeping waltz awake Punzel repunzel throw down your support for your voting base One You have a lot of lights on Dinner's got to be done by now We haven't heard from you in a very long time So they're not so they're not happy. They're not thrilled They're upset right that there was any sort of working with the Trump administration and clearly they're going to continue this But smart it's more politics on their side right you never want to be rest on your laurels. Yeah Right so they're going to take it Perceptionally what you want to do is say we're winning, but we're not winning enough We got to go further no cooperation I used to say this you remember when they freaked out when Elon was buying X You would talk to a lefty you'd debate them and you'd say hey man 95% of social media is controlled by like rabbit lefties That's so unfair and they'd be like we agree that's unfair. It should be a hundred percent Right that's their mentality always on offense always winning right and so I can see why they're doing this here The one good part of this like if you want a little shot in Freud look man The lefties get the wall too at the end of this right and so the idea that someone like Tim walls isn't going to be Remember when he said he's like oh no like that they're they're coming in their colony a retard I don't like that they're doing that like it's like yeah these lefty moms are going to turn on you It's not just going to be the right wingers as Kristen cinema as Joe Manchin right and so you got to stay locked step with them the whole time So yeah, well this good for you walls. I hope you're not sleeping tonight This is not my position Andrew, but yeah, this was the The opposition this is a hundred percent my position That they would you know they would disrupt With with working with walls like they would disrupt the left and now the left going after wall It's kind of what you know the idea of them with the stand down or whatever you want to call it like to kind of start That's kind of the idea. I mean what do you guys think? I mean We see this here like well, I think that the idea is exactly what Rob saying that They're always going to stay on offense now you have to understand this campaign for them has worked This has been a successful campaign for the terrorists before the anti-fateris This has not been a successful campaign for the Trump administration Um, and they're continuing their winning streak and you can argue that point. I suppose but These arrests they're gonna get thrown out. We know they're gonna get thrown out We know that this is leading up to more and more and more and more. It's been like this since Trump was elected As it goes it's gonna get worse and worse everyone's geared up for it their own internal communications prove it That's what's going to happen. So they're gonna stay on offense here I agree and I do think Trump going in with the boot I think that is the best the best play honest obviously, but um, yeah So let's look at This is frontlines TPUSA. They're asking an ice protest or his reasoning for being outside of minnesota governor waltz's house What would be your message to Tim Walsh right now? I mean, I just wanted it come to come on talk to us But that's really like tell us what's going on at least being a little transparent Um, we're we're transparent. We're asking for so I just think you should be transparent back And do you feel as if Tim Walsh has completely When against the left and and the people that got him elected in the first place? That's what it seems like right now, and I mean, but again, we don't know I think we're just speculating but it'd be nice to hear from him because it appears that way I Like you know have an ice show up to the government center and rescue people that we're meeting with their attorneys yesterday is a completely At escalation of my opinion and in your opinion, what can he do to mend what has been broken right now to make things right For me, I know for me personally would just be just be transparent either way be transparent with us I think that's what I'm on for is there any shak that is cute now this this is such an effective tactic the tactic here being that If in any way shape or form you're not doing what this lunatic base that you have molded for yourself waltz They're going to turn against you which gives every incentive for those particular politicians To enact their insane agenda And this is exactly what we're supposed to be doing on our side with the Trump administration saying the exact same thing that they're saying hey wake up Trump Get him down there. Let's get some arrests moving. Let you call them domestic terrorists. You have allocated the resources to Antifa being a domestic terrorist group Where's the arrests? Yeah, yeah, why are we rounding these terrorists up? I hope it's because they're going after the money I hope that's why and that they don't want to Create ill-will bad optics another riot in the street because they arrested 19 foot soldiers that didn't know it for and they're really time I hope that they're really going through records and chat rooms and looking for funding. Yeah I'm telling you if you live stream it sounds like very wishful thinking If you live stream it'd be the biggest show man if you just saw these people getting arrested and deported. Oh my god Be like cops man. Yeah, I'm yeah, they'd be all like truckers and eggs You know you remember a friend from main first project Zach Lp Yeah, I was talking on the phone the other day and he's sort of talking about you know behind the scenes trying to whip up Organization or Republicans for causes and he's like he's telling this story once he's like Democrats in this particular I can't remember because I have a bad memory, but he's like They primary this dude that voted 95% of what this organization wanted and the dude getting primaries like why are you doing that? I vote 95% with you and they're like because you don't vote 100 That's their mentality. It's like no, we don't care the person that's doing 95% of what we like that's where we're going to put the most pressure Because we know that's a person that's willing to listen to us and we can get him to do 100% and so that's what's going on here They know that at this point walls is absolutely beholden to them And so if he doesn't total line and a bit of capitulation on their part they're going to say his weakness So we need to go further meanwhile on our side and I know you deal with this Andrew How many times do you have people on our own side saying well you can't criticize Trump You can't criticize the Republicans because we all need to coalesce I agree in the importance of coalescing But we have a unique opportunity to tell the people we elect This is why you should carry out the promises that you uh claimed when you ran so it's effective for the Democrats They do it all the time. Yeah totally agree. There's another story here about A dog casting its ballot It's pretty interesting This coming in from Shiloh Marx California resident Laura Yorex report A self reported that she had registered her dog to vote and had in fact cast a mail-in ballot on behalf of her dog She did this to expose the corrupt election system and she was brilliant for this her dog voted Republican by the way That court well I think smart dog Um, here's your evidence elections are not secure and voter fraud Is real now I can't wait to hear the cop on this but so how about that ID now yeah, I love How about you how about that ID now? I think people should have like a license or uh, you know, whatever you're just an ID passport I don't like digital like I tend to want to I want to avoid digital databases because they're so easy to scrape but I actually for sure I actually trust Twitter polls more than the elections like I'm not even joking on that like I've been to these Reconz remember when trump did the recounts and the walk-in stuff and I sat there and I watched the people going through and doing the the votes and calling the votes It's a nightmare like I talked to the staff the staff was like oh, we had no training These are people that are literally daily version they were hired for that day only they come in there like we have no training We have no idea what we're doing they sit them down in these booths where you can like watch them doing what they're doing like It was a joke now here's the twist Coastamace a woman charged with five felonies for legally registering her dog to vote casting mail-in ballots sent to dog into elections Uh, coastamace a woman has been charged with five felonies for legally registering her dog to vote Yeah in the 2021 California gubernatorial recall election and the 2022 primary election the dogs vote was successfully counted in 2021 Uh, but was rejected in the 2022 primary lord lee urex 62 of coastamace has been charged with one felonie count perjury one felonie count of procuring or offering a false or forged document to be filed two felonie counts of casting a ballot When not in in title to vote and one felonie count of registering a non-existent person to vote urex is scheduled to be Arraigned at the steven k tamura west justice center in west minster september 9th of 2025 in Department okay gotcha so walk me through this rob the dog dogs can vote and but isn't this the system working This is jim crow 2.0. That's what this is tell chakcho now. We're taking away dogs rights to vote Absolutely outrageous, you know, yeah, I mean Of course, they'll throw the book at this lady, you know What was the woman? I forget what state it was, but they threw the book at her for like trying to get the like You know proof of the ballots. They're like, oh, you can't do that The left is intentionally making elections inaudible and there's only one reason to do that because you want the cheating That's why they don't want the idea. That's why they oh, oopsie. We lost the ballots Oops, we lost the video remember how they were supposed to like in all these states legally when they started to do the mail-in ballots Yet these drop boxes you legally had to have like cameras watching. Whoops. All the camera footage so much of it disappeared You know here. Okay, they caught one lady right because probably you know she voted Republican if it was a left wing Or they'd have been like yeah, we're good about that put that to the side But yeah, it's a joke and you know it just goes to show the truth is I want to follow up on this, you know Yeah, she has a good gift in me. This woman get a part. Yeah I want to see how dare you you are racist or don't you know black people cannot get IDs that's true in order for them to vote Is that the dog is that is it? No, I will doubt it Oh, now we're keeping The Democrats I mean, that's that's the craziest explanation ever. It's like oh black I bet it was it I hit the liquid vote. Okay, so Guys we're going to It's time to go through super chats and rumble rants first smash the like button subscribe to the page join us at Timcast.com to join the discord Let's get to it So for $50 just comes in from superpoopers as US marine vet. I'm ready to do TOS violations to our commies But I know it doesn't help with optics. So what can I do? Only traders help invaders I tend to agree with you that only traders help invaders, but let's not Was the TOS Well, no, that we can't do that No, but you can legally go in with the boot and when we say the boot We're not saying awful people we're talking about the boot to go in and legally get these people out the streets And make sure that they're not destroying businesses and houses in the 50s with during the McCarthy era where it was like Getting rid of communist basically were they violent? Were there of communists attacking people in the streets? Was did the government go in and crack down and drag people off I don't remember ever hearing about that stuff. I just know that that communist scare was handled in the 50s Yeah, well turns out that McCarthy was largely right as far as the idea I I'm not a good reader of that era So I'm not sure if there were people riding But it's certainly with the weather underground and stuff you saw into the 70s was absolutely numb. Yeah, it was absolving Well, let's try to power through some of these uh, this one comes in from d.s. H 29 says shout out to robs video on Brian Shapiro 16 minute 18 and a half 18 and a half minute ran you guys debate pure lunacy Well, he told me my show that our debate and he ranted for 18 and a half minutes about how he's respected and how great he is and I'm just a nobody he's also friends with jack Prasovic apparently and all the big famous Michael no one still love him Michael no one loves him. He's a big deal. Just how you gotta do is that show? I don't know if you knew that it's sent is it syndicated? I've heard it syndicated too. Reno 9-1. Yeah, he also has to see my penis. He did It's true. Yeah, X X X D law says hey Andrew just showing some love from your hometown keep up the good work and just know We are all not lost out here. Yes. I'm aware of that. That's awesome This one comes in from force name change smartcast tonight. You're absolutely right. Law needs to crack the whip Before something serious occurs making the left's claim of fascism seem plausible act Don't react Or the right keeps losing. I actually agree with this chat. That's great. I think he's great. Yeah That's why we have you on the show. I don't want to I don't want to fall into their trap We like to have someone that's wrong on the show so we can say okay. Oh, I know Yeah, that's why so I'm not I'm not your buddy guys as seeing how far gone France and Breton are along with everything the left has done across the west Do you think western civilization still has a chance Rob? Yeah, of course don't get blackpilled right the the truth is like to the previous Chatter that mentioned like TOS stuff here's the truth Morally but more importantly strategically those sorts of things won't help. It's an information more at this point And the truth is as bleak as it sometimes seems Normies will wake up if you show them a path forward right and so it's just a matter of it's hard work We got here because of 60 years of globalists indoctrinating our children etc But it's certainly no reason to black belt go to church You know start advocating run for local office win the narrative inform yourself But yeah, I don't think it's too late at all in fact of anything I think the United States is a beacon and more important than ever Standing oh Gotcha this one comes in from just Just Kuzmfuy just Kuzmfuy I don't know This Trump believes that there's always a deal to be made he doesn't understand there is no deal to be made with radicals and insurgents This constant in action by Republicans is the death of their party No totally agree and again I'm I'm sympathetic to the people that are like Trump needs to do more I am and I certainly criticize but my goodness. What are the Republicans doing What are they doing in the House and Senate you'd you'd be forgiven for not thinking That they didn't have control and here's the dirty secret the reason they don't want to end the filibuster It's because if they did then the American people would see actually we're not on board with Trump's agenda right now They could hide behind it well we need 60 votes So what can we do they don't want voter ID? They don't want to enshrine Trump's executive orders to secure the border They wanted to go back to the way it was so like I said arrests are good The rest are good we give him credit or credits do but you know get to the core. We want to see the deportations live stream it This one comes in from skyline 99's thanks smart go after home renters sellers businesses anyone hiring illegals Put them in prison for eating and abetting illegals the invaders will walk themselves Back home now. This has been something which has long been proposed but nobody has done It is you're supposed to be going after the employers now, but it's not enforced at all If we had a few kind of high-level prosecutions of this made a couple of examples Rob do you think that's all the issue? I think it would go a long way to it and I think the the chatter is absolutely correct That's if you stop the incentive then you have a long way now It's not going to totally solve it because if you had to be porn destitute in the United States or Guatemala What would you pick right but a lot of what we could do to dissuade people from coming is not just arrest them But to arrest the employers. I just I just don't think a rescue far enough I mean these are business people they have lawyers they have money the port a couple of them. I'm telling you it will solve it Wouldn't be legal and not even into a host of other issues. Isn't not legal. I mean their traders I I'm just telling you it would go beyond the scope of what was allowed you could have a criminal punishment and lock them up By the way, like what's wrong with locking them up But most of it's going to be financial punishment and business leaders will get the message if you start punishing them financially Sure, they drag it out But that's what needs to happen until you at least make an attempt to target the people that are causing the problem Then the problem's gonna persist the low-level people are important to go after but you have to go after the people Higher up the food chain that are making it likely this one comes in from N1 Risen who says Andrew did amazing today. Yes. I did I hope Ian truly reads and studies the scriptures. Please watch Dr. Gene Kim. He talks about the Graphene technology used in the upcoming beast system hardest thing to do is submit and acknowledge the word of God It is future proof. You're not a Christian Ian Well, I try to live like Christ would have I think but I don't adhere to like earth books and religions that way No, they're interesting, but I never When people like believe this thing that happened in the past. I'm like I mean I need evidence. I'm gonna work on you Ian With some good old-fashioned evidence. I'm gonna work on you. We'll just hurt you together Most books Only alien Leave in your earth daddy. You Born from the mud. We're all clay Mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah, let's get virtuous together guys This one comes in from rofio says I see Tim was saving the best guest host for last. He means you robbed Thank you Andrew good to see you on here and eviscerating that commie earlier happy to do it these pundits need to start calling the Minnesotans on the street terrorists I look Start calling if the if we're gonna say that Antifa are terrorists Start treating them like terrorists. Yep. Yep. Okay. I don't know how else to say that start treat start acting like they are You can't make the declaration they are and then pretend that they're not correct Devon Grimm sends in oh, I'm sorry. He says why doesn't cash app? I'm sorry cash sorry and Tom Homan come out to announce a draw up of trumps FBI to investigate fraud and all persons Involved in obstruction in rioting great question Question I mean they're too busy. Uh, I don't know still looking through those files the pambondi had in their desk, you know With Epstein. I don't know that's kind of funny though. They give out like 3.5 million files on her desk though Yeah, she's killing it. She's killing it. Look Possibly there's things going on behind the scene if I don't want it like be totally down on them I think the truth is that once more Trump doesn't have the same priorities that maybe a lot of his audience does I don't think he has the same priorities on deportation I think that he has a focus on foreign policy some people like some people don't and I think that you know He's always sort of been full of it when he talked about draining the swamp. I mean Bill Barr I'll push back on that Till the end to the bitter end is like lunatics like me were on screaming in 2020 like what are you doing? Yeah, they they You know, I still don't think he gets the stakes. I don't think he gets that they want him in prison until he dies That they want his children in prison. They want his co-workers in prison. They want his neighbors in prison That's the stakes that they're playing they need to make an example of him And so he needs to be aggressively rooting out fraud particularly when it comes to government institutions and um Look, I've been found that it's been very depressing the lack of action Maybe it'll come you know, we had the rate of Fulton County Maybe that's first step in the dominoes. We'll see but they need to start investigating the corruption that's going on at these institutions I get it, but Donald Trump is still the best president in my lifetime and probably one of the greatest men ever born Yeah, I mean he's I mean he's the best president in my lifetime The competition isn't very stiff. I will say that that's you know, but yeah, I mean and again I give him leeway in this at least he's at least on paper trying Right at least he's saying things. Yeah, who the hell else do we have right Mitch McConnell? That's why I can't get down on him Yeah, he's gonna get down Stiker 117 says Andrew can you explain why you have the moral high ground as a father who abandoned his black son? Yeah, justice justice for lee Roy Wilson. Okay, listen Sometimes sometimes you got to go out for a pack of new ports And when you do you don't come back. That's why I switched to Marble Reds Look Higher ground anymore leave lee Roy Wilson alone. All right Moving on moving on 1 million percent I live next to Portland Fuck him says and the me What you do is you get riot cops with three foot wooden batons and water hoses left this Are violent, but ultimately their pussies. Yeah, well, and I also saw this spray and there's like video of this where it's like There's orange spray where you can like go In the crowds and you spray it on them and they're like they like the people can't stand it and they start throwing up and stuff Why don't we use more of that the Chinese are doing in Hong Kong exactly like because it's horrifically painful and But it breaks up crowds. Well, yeah, so there's explosives, you know, you don't you know, well, they're like now we're talking Oh, you know, there's a lot of ways to break up crowds that you don't do no But it doesn't kill them. I'm just saying it's a non-violent way to like get them out of like doing crazy stuff It is violent. It's like how's it really with dying it? It's it's terrors make some throw up. How's that violent? What it? It's reminiscent of this did you see the L-Rads that they sent out there in Minneapolis to like sound weapons? I didn't actually see them in the air haven't seen those and you watch the left. He's like that's so one that's so cruel man I won't say that I haven't seen those think about I heard I'm just debating left. He's telling me it's like that sound It drives you crazy like the loud high pitch sounds and stuff like that makes you do but and it's like you mean like the whistles You guys are born every day right like that. Oh, you could your sound is a laser I'm sorry about that. How about the lasers in the eyes? The right strobing lights designed to give you headaches and do seizures They do everything that they can to utilize weapons without utilizing weapons, right? Do they have the one where it's like they shit their pants? Is that a real thing? The brown note? Is that a real thing? That's fair, you know, they're ready to do it. It's party. We're loving and shitty pants Well in Portland Zari so full of homeless people. Yeah fair I hate Mark Fuckerberg says I'm not sure who this Andrew and Rob fellow are but they are doing a great job in one S.B I feel like you gave it away with the end one S.B. You can't give the company motto out when you're trying to like be like I don't know who they are, but they're awesome. What's N1SB? Not one step back. Yeah, not one step back Okay, so also one comes in from lady What does that say lady goip vanity? I don't know Like that lady goip vanity I decided to convert to crust of crust of the vanarianism what oh that was that farry in is sorry founded on the AI social media site Mott book Religion website Mott book was only only a login if you had an AI Program that logged in it was like so the only people on the site the social network were ais and they were all interacting They create on the early language. I heard that it was really humans seeding that the programming and making it do it But they came up with their own religion overnight like one of the guys programmed its AI to create a religion And that's what it came up with right? Yes It was crazy too. It was like something with like marrying a seven-year-old bride and like all this oh you mean like sorry That let's not make them too old in that religion So breaks breaks 717 Said it says sorry. I just have to say something about Ian's earlier debate with Andrew This is for you Ian about firearms and them being equalizers. Let's see women pull a five pound trigger with one finger and not only that But build them Oh women know to do I women you've been called out Whose first I you know definitely guns are probably built for dudes that love guns. Let's be real That's what there they are a man's extension of a man in a lot of ways, you know they even fire off Um But you know I'm with the caller. Let's see it. I will say Ian did back off on this position He was gonna have earlier in the show. He was gonna talk about how stay at home moms literally don't work yet this whole like He was gonna be like these bitches A hundred compared to a hundred years ago people like being a stay-home mom is hard. It's work I'm like yeah, okay a hundred years ago it took you five hours to make the dinner and wash clothing with washboards You had to walk to the store you had to walk to the river to get water now women are sitting in air conditioning My mom did this full laundry with the washing kids off for most of the day. Oh, no I wanted to go on a My mom's chilling at home. No, no, no, no, no, like the day the full work day. They're basically gone. It's down back off I love this. I love this and it's not easy to raise a kid I was told about how women sucky and but compared to a hundred years ago the argument of like being a stay-home mom is hard work like do you know what hard work is is my question like I used to chop wood like that shit is hard as fuck My body we broken at the end of the day Listen we got base in In in crushing moms. Yeah, probably we're in the show. He's like yeah, what's wrong with the monkeys and the abomas I don't see problem being animal to still single by the way I'm super Yeah Those bitches aren't doing anything in the home You know internally conflicted on everything. He's like I can't believe these women won't do any work There's got to be utility oh my god. No, yeah, this is this life. I just can't figure you know. We can figure you out He and yeah, oh my god. That's my life. So I just I love it. It's definitely work, but just don't don't point out proportion ladies Okay, this one comes in from Ryan. He says anything to distract from the fact large scale deportations are no longer happening as Promise we want all the illegals Deported yeah totally great now there's been more numbers than people think in the self deportations Which is actually arguably more important and that's why it's important I think Trump makes a strategic mistake where he's like we're just going after the worst of the worst no You should randomly be going after the ones that aren't the worst to send a signal to everyone none of you are safe My recommendation if you're an illegal look at the game if you're an illegal here's what you do any day now You could be rounded up like that and your whole life could be turned on its head So take that thousand dollars make plans and get the hell out of the country. So that'd be the best case scenario But yeah, we need more deportations and sadly we probably won't get those numbers But still it's much better than it would have been the alternative so and then me says that was the most I've ever respected Ian I don't want to just say what you want me to say, but thank you, but Stratian art Yeah, it's not even Trad Ian Christian art didn't come in We got to do more of these We got to do more of these I know you're giving me on the debate the bait scene. I'll start with rip dude. Oh my god do that. They'll go viral I was doing with debates at home moms don't work that oh my god Yeah, I gotta get into comedy. That's my next my next phase Come be good stand up. Oh, that should that's your first bit right there. These bitches aren't working Stair all moms. Am I right? Yeah, I was looking to memes of Obama being a monkey and I was like moms Like what do I do have some advice from you that I got from a stand-up comic about if you do shows only shitting on women You should it so Josh Josh's speaking of insane bullshit check out Oregon's IP 28 and the guys of stopping animal cruelty he says it like that Cruity the W they want to ban hunting fishing and small farms pull it up Jamie. Yeah, yeah Yeah, I'm this to Jamie. Yeah, so this says the Oregon initiative petition 28 IP 28 is a proposed 2026 ballot measure that would redefine animal cruelty to criminalize common practices like hunting fishing certain breeding methods The purpose the initiative aims to change Oregon's animal cruelty laws which opponents argue would impact animal husbandry training wildlife management Opposition the American Kennel Club the AKC and other groups are actively campaigning against petition urging voters not to sign it It's currently in the signature gathering phase for November 2026 ballot wild Hmm, this won't pass though. Here's why it doesn't matter how woke people get right you can't mess with their dogs Like even the lefties there they'll be like yeah, but I like my weird pomegranate and breathe. Yeah, but it would criminalize Common practices like hunting fish and that part they'll be fine. It's the breeding No, I don't think look the thing if you've ever seen fishermen who can't fish yeah, I know one okay They they go they go insane something in their brain breaks you can't keep a fisherman away from the water for too long Or they just lose their she there's no way no way this is gonna happen. No being the ice protests mm-hmm. Yep So this one comes in from pp x to man these names Pp extender Papa nixon okay, whatever he says how much force should a force doc force if a force doc could doc force in Probably 87% 82 87% If yeah, but only for a moment then you pull back and then you come in hard but slow, you know Yeah, force doc should force all the doc that a force doc could doc for force doc could doc force Yeah, yeah, I think that's yeah, I think that's correct Yeah, I agree with 100% of what Rob has said your base is fuck good, sir Thank you keep doing what you're doing I take that in on my all on my phone So nice this one comes in from oh my god puppies. Oh my god puppies The street violence and stormtroopers is just what they want you have to go after the funding and planning This is a color revolution up. Yeah, I understand I think you can walk in Choo bubble gum at the same time. That's what my opinion on it is not sending in Federal enforcement has not worked thus far. It's it's actually been a black eye for the Trump administration due to Inaction one thing that the people ordered this time was an action president That's what we wanted. Yeah, he had nothing to lose It's his only term he's ever going to get again and we assumed that he was going to use it for good old Fashion revenge against the evil liberal scumbags and he hasn't done that yet Right and also the show of force isn't just for you know the hardcore obviously the hard cores are gonna do what they're gonna Do but we're seeing middle schoolers out there now like literal middle middle schoolers and high schoolers like It's gotten so crazy that we we've allowed this that literally anyone thinks they can get into it So it's like I you know once you start pushing back the normies the the hardcore people are still gonna be hardcore Whatever you know go after their funding I get it but look George Floyd now how long did that name resonate now now we got Alex Freddie and Renee good look at the propaganda push Everyone it you know in Hollywood they're all pushing the same thing and I just don't know if it's resonating with the normies I think they're over it. I think most people are like we are tired of the rights. We're tired of it in 2020 We got locked down while they were allowed to go out with impunity and we're not putting up with it again So if there was a push to be more aggressive With the restrained hand I guess he and then also push out this PR I think that it's actually a positive move for Trump and go after the funders and stuff Force name change says you all want crowd dispersal send in a drone with a single drop of Fiasatone and what is it? Thio acetone I think this is how that's pronounced. I'm not sure if I acetone cloth Thousand percent effective don't believe me Google it and we did thio acetone is an intensely foul smelling Organo sulfur Compound notorious for its overpowering putrid order or odor described as a mix of rotten eggs garlic and skunk But that's great. So but they already smell like that You're average auntie. Yeah, they already smell like that. It can be detected at extreme dilutions It is an unstable orange brown liquid at room temperature that rapidly Oh, yeah, this is this is above my head, but It's like a very sophisticated stink bomb apparently. Yeah, like the worst it says it's it's considered one of the worst smelling substances known Right Just like just spray him with like the like maybe you should drop some corpses Drops like the whole job applications When comes in from lady again lady goips vanity who says shout out to Christ. I'm sorry crust priest and Memo the was zero one zero one if they why don't they just like jack five I mean just do like jack five john john four The AI revolution on Molt book is growing are you prepared? No, she's really into this I guess Yeah, that's great. Absolutely Intel wild says Andrew and Rob great show hope to see more of this. Yeah Do you guys have a show that you do free like a schedule thing that you guys do weekly or anything? Well, not we don't really do a show together. We have shows of our own on YouTube Rob fills in quite often for me because I travel so much on the extravaganza. Yeah, so he's like the permanent Third chair who also is the co-host. It's a weird dynamic, but he fills in for me all the time So we are gonna start doing some of these tiktoks. Yes, the tiktoks We're taking over tiktok And we will open up a space where all the lefties that come on into betas, but yeah, we do our own things basically Usually is come on and tell me how handsome I am Not kidding. I'm actually not kidding. You think I'm lying, but I'm not lying. Yeah, they come on I'm like aren't I handsome and they're like you're so handsome. I'm telling you. It's true. Well, they're all games Okay, I'm talking about the women. Okay, even the women are gay men, all right And all the women that's true none of the women's none of the none of the single single woman actually To go alongside my previous super chat on a happier note my wife brought our first child into the world I haven't had a chance to tell you all he's the most Perfect baby. I feel like everybody says that that it's always nugly baby. I'm just saying Every every single time. So 13 years your child is gonna be beautiful. Yeah, exactly. It's always making a baby. True Nice job. Yeah, good job Congratulations. We need more more kids in the world The blacksmith says hey guys my friends house burned and she lost everything The all could shout out her go fund me would be huge help Should I shout out the good one me? Okay Help our friends rebuild after the fire by ila tweed. Thanks guys. Is it a go fund me? Yeah, it's a good Yeah, I'm always very I'm always very cautious about it. I don't do them because There's so many scammers who are just always leering at me from the go fund me sidelines Well, not just that go fund me. I'll just take it down once they find out your political Shut it out and Tim kiss take it straight kids says they've got kids protesting in the streets five-year-old children It's disgusting that people do this by the way. Absolutely love you guys keep up the wonderful work you do Literally, yeah, there's middle schoolers out there literally. Oh, yeah, we didn't talk about that on the show Yeah, like you start throwing them in jail for a couple of days, you know what I mean They had pre they were training preschoolers. I saw that they were at them like repeating mantras. Yeah Well, we were focused on winning elections. They were focused on taking over academia. That's right for years. Yep That's right. This one comes in from it's It's street kid who says I just joined the army and go to basic in March. Wish me luck. Good luck Good luck, man. Good luck Uh Another one comes in here from Stefan mage who says rob is a great fellow if you like watching a live get smashed rhetorically Thank you. I do like watching that. I also like watching that. Yeah. I don't like watching live Do Rob help me prepare for my Wait a minute wait a minute. Thank God you guys That's a clipable moment true Uh, this is bigger than Jim Crow. It's Jim Beagle PS I did he and micro dose Andrew before the show says Dustin last good no So I have a different approach than uh, Tim pool does if I'm if I'm in a host position And I have a guest I want to give as much time to the guest as possible That's just my style. It's a different stylistic If I'm in the guest spot It's my job to give commentary I give commentary if it's my job to debate I debate And the host spot though the reason I invited Rob out is to showcase him Not to showcase me. I got a chance to do that this morning when I was wrecking communist so But I did we did make eye contact which could have gotten you high right it's possible. Yeah, it's possible Uh, DeWinde says hear me out commute the sentence of any of the 158 arrested who can directly link their protest any politicians Give him 10k on top if they can pin waltz to it Who yeah, I mean this is something you saw with the Remember there was investigations crossfire hurricane in the mid year exam into trump and Hillary at the same time with trump This is the plan all the lefties getting get the low-level people get him to flip with Hillary It was let's give everyone immunity. So yeah, absolutely. It's effective throw the book at these people and say hey Unless you got some names where did you get the organization? You know where who sent you materials and try to get fish up the I'm fine with that. I think that's a great idea This one says up from upsetting spaghetti. Yep, crucibles live and well. Yes, the crucibles live and well and thriving Always love upsetting spaghetti my one of my daughters. She she would always say that to me And so I started using it in debates all the time with leftists and they're like, man, you're really upsetting spaghetti and it really stuck Really stuck? Yeah One more here if I was a monkey. I wouldn't want to be compared to black people. That's a lot of crime Oh I feel like someone splashed water in my face. Yeah, great. You guys start your career start your stand-up career and your opening bit posture. Oh, man. That's fantastic. I just want to say thank you to everyone for all the super chats We had a ton. Yeah, well the crucible tends to also support people who support us So with that we're going to wrap the show up before we do rob nor work and everybody finds you Normal America with rob nor on YouTube normal America on rumble and all other platforms usually streaming Most week nights around 10 p.m. Eastern so Ian yeah, you can find me at Ian Crossland on the internet YouTube X and Instagram is where I'm most active also check out graphene.movie which is a movie that I've been producing It's graphene.movie. It's a this wild documentary on nanotechnology down at Rice University We uncovered some groundbreaking future texts so check it out graphene.movie sign up for the mailing list And this man Guys, hopefully tape brown is next or back next week. So fingers crossed on that saw him early and Andrew did a great job. Yeah Andrew Wilson just Andrew Wilson host of the one and only crucible master debater Glad to be here with all of you tonight. I'm going to take the entire cast out to dinner now And we really appreciate you tuning in Nice. I just want to say thanks to rumble for the demand we've had out here. It's been really nice to be out in rumble studios Thank you guys I agree man. I I didn't know a good way to say it but good ideas You guys rock Chris Pepple on the everybody rumble. Thank you guys so much appreciate it. All right That's it. I guess cheers You