Nightcap Hour 2: Allen Iverson CALLS OUT NBA Stars + Myles Garrett SKIPS Browns OFFSEASON PROGRAM + Jags Make Travis Hunter FULL TIME DB

Sorry for the voice note, just running for the taxi. Did anyone pack hair straighteners? No, I didn't. I've got hair straighteners, everybody relax, pre-departure drink anyone? Sure you can roam in the EU at no extra cost, but what really matters is friends and family. That's why we're happy to be your second most important network. Tesco Mobile, it pays to be connected. Terms apply, see tesco mobile.com slash home from home. Check availability at gigaclear.com. Alan Iverson is calling out modern NBA stars for load managing. This all hit different for me. Load management, they took me to the hell for allegedly not practicing. Now they're crying about players not playing games. I played every, he said, I played with every engine you can think of to the point they had to hire my jersey to keep me from playing true story. Now we talking about the game, not practice, not practice, we talking about the game. Don't cry now, what the baby's gonna do. Hey look, I understand what AI is coming from. Hey look, you talking to a guy who was Ironman in the NBA for over a decade, uncle and uncle Joe. Like I thoroughly enjoyed what I was doing and I thoroughly enjoyed the game and I never wanted to cheat the game. But I think we do have to take into consideration the way the game is being played today. Meaning it's a lot faster, the tempo is more upbeat, more up, more pace. And you know, back when AI and T-Magnum was playing, the game wasn't played this fast, man. You know what I mean? Yeah, those dudes average 30 plus a night, but hell they was the only one on their team who was doing that. They, you wouldn't put up about 85, 90 points, you know, 95 points a night. It's just totally different, man. These guys play at such a healthy, scale to pace. And you know, it's starting to hurt our stars as we can see a lot of us. Look, look, man, can't nobody even make the 65 game threshold to even be, you know, in the conversation for any of these awards. You know what I mean? So it says a lot. I think the pace of the game has really, really, has been upgraded to the point where it's taking a load on a lot of these cats. So Joe, what do you think? You think the answer is obviously fixing the issue is taking some of the games out because the pace is a little bit more upbeat now? No, the color ain't gonna take the money out. Cause you know, you play less games, you get less money, old Joe. Yeah, I mean, yeah. You give it up some of your money? No, but I'm just saying, how do you fix the problem? How do you fix the issue when you're starting? You're superstars are getting hurt. Probably you're gonna have to train a lot harder. If you asking me, meaning like in the off season, you're gonna have to be, you can't take no two months off, bro. You kind of gotta stay consistent, whether it's just standing shape, running things of that sort, because that's all it is, bro. It's just the running part that's really killing cats, playing at this ultra high level. You know what I mean? Especially when we get in the post season, you know, you can't take a playoff. You know, I know y'all, we sit here almost every other night, man. I'll talk about playing the game of basketball is three and a half, four miles a game, bro. Can you imagine running four miles every other night? Every night? Yeah. Up and down? Yeah. You definitely have to condition your body. You have to condition your body to withstand that kind of, and that's what Ochoa and I was talking about, is that we played a physical game, they were hitting, we were doing all those things. They didn't ask us to go from zero to a hundred, just on Sundays. We had to crank it up during the week. And I don't know if they crank it up like what we did. And I'm not saying the guys are not tough, it's a different game now, we understand that. But, and maybe it's because everything get covered, the NFL is covered so much different than it was when I played and when you played Ochoa, and even when the beginning, when I first got to the league, but I don't remember guys getting injured like they get now. I don't remember it. And I'm not saying that it didn't. So Chad, don't beat me up too bad. I just don't remember. Did the guys have ACLs? Yes. Did the guys have Achilles? But not these non-contact injuries, not the injuries that we see now. Look, look. Yeah. I mean, definitely not to the star players. That's what I'm saying. It's happening to the stars, fellas. So it lets you know that obviously, they're playing a substantial amount of minutes, and it's obviously wearing tearing on their bodies to where they're breaking down. Yeah. I mean, Uncle Joe, you know, my whole thing is obviously, for one, it's hard for me to even have, you know, input on conversations like this, being that I didn't have any injuries. But I always say, I know I play around with nutrition, but for getting nutrition, you know, for this point, but I think people or players, we've also, what sports you play, you have to learn to build a callus in the body. You have to, body has to get used to, you know, ramping up to a certain amount, to a certain degree that you do on Sundays, which is why when I did practice, I always practiced full speed as if it was a game. You know, there was no relaxing, there was no, you know, taking a playoff with, hell, the funny part, I used to get cursed out on and walk through, because sometimes I would do walk through, full speed. I mean, I wasn't doing it to be funny, I was doing it just so to continue to make sure my body stays activated and always at a high rate of speed at all times. And for some reason, I think it's those small things that I did, that one of the reasons why I didn't get hurt. And obviously I played the same sport, Uncle did Joe, a barbaric sport. I played very reckless Joe, you know, cross the middle, you know, diving and hitting people, even though I lost every time I tried to hit somebody, I lost every single one. Joe, but I still never got hurt. And I'm at the talking, everybody trying to knock my head off, everybody trying to kill me. Joe, but I still never got hurt. You know? I mean, they call it walkthrough, but I was with a brisk dog, it wasn't no walking. And they was like, hey, pick it up. I said, you said it's a walkthrough, nah, that's just entitled. Ain't no walking. Right, right, right. And you know, and I said, well, nobody walked but the mailman. That's why he don't make what you make. Right. And it don't gave that joke a call now. He doesn't, the mailman don't even walk no more. Hold on, hold on, you see the news. I don't know about y'all, but here in Georgia, boy, they got some new mail trucks in the month of June and July, them boys in AC. Yeah. Do you see they sit real low, right Joe? They sit real low? Yeah, it's like the mail truck is made different. Look, almost futuristic now. Okay. So he ain't nothing like that. But they, they got to be on about it. I ain't seen the mail truck. Nah, nah, nah. Yeah, they got to be at two Joe. Yeah, cause them old mail trucks, they had this line and had the one, had the one seat in there and the guy had the mail right there. He, he pulled up there to my all your head and he go, but he knew everybody. I mean, that Joe, I was like, how do you know everybody? He done sorted the mail before he went out there. He know the route that he's gonna go. And the first box, I stop off and put the mail right here. But yeah, man, the mail, the joke was, they got them short sense. They had them have sweat all in their uniform. They having that down. Okay, Ocho telling. And they, they living good boy. They be, they be clean now. But, yeah, I look, and the thing is practice. See, I enjoy practice. Practice was really the opportunity, Ocho and Joe, for me to really work on because this guy that, he sees me every day in practicing. He knows all the little nuances of my route. He know that little wiggle at the top. He know the little head nod to the top or the three steps to the like nod. And the thing is I give credit. Ronnie Bradford, Derek Dodge, Tony Veland, they would always give me great feedback. They like, they like sharp. You got on your toes. I knew you was breaking it. Cause I would ask, I said, bro, how you, how you knew that route? He said, man, I saw you get on your toes at the top of it. So I just took a, I took, I know you break it in or out. So I just took the, I took the thing or put myself to jump under it. Okay. So it kept me, okay. Make sure I stay off my toes and I would, you know, be people to have it cut up. And so I look at like, damn, I gave it away. I gave it away. But I'm saying to myself, he don't know this. The guy that's in the game don't know this. But even then, even though he don't know it, I'm trying to cut out. Cause I don't want to give away no tendencies. Cause we're a Tennessee. Look, we studied Tennessee's. We're going to get TV copy. That's why they tried to get the cadence of the quarterback. Huh, huh. We trying to get that. We trying to get how you stagger your stance and jump off the ball. We trying to get that. Whether you're dropping, whether you're coming, whether you're doing a TE or ET, whatever the case may be. We're looking at all that. That's how, that's how the game has evolved. That's how the great players, they know, ah, we got a bird over here. Which means he about to fly. He about to pull. Yeah. He sitting like, hey, cause, and I had a thing was like, cause I didn't want grass to get on my thing. Cause you know, I had those little tank to find gloves. And I was like, if it was, if it was a pass, I'm down like, here, if it's a run, I'm like, this, ah, you don't think you know him? What you know? Don't worry about it. So I had to add to, sometimes you have to self scout yourself. But I agree with, I agree with AI. But I tell you what, Joe, just think if that 65 games wasn't in place, how many more games would they have missed? Let's just say for the sake of argument, the 65 game isn't the cutoff. A lot of guys came back just to make the 65 cutoff. Right. You're right. So we have other guys like Wimby. Wimby gonna get that 20 minutes in the last three games. He ain't been to miss that defensive player of the year. He's not been to missing all NBA because now that puts him in line for the Super Max. Right. Yeah. Yokey's ain't gonna miss no more game cause now he's in line for a Super Max. Ant-Man is gonna come back next year and do everything he can to make all the NBA. Because if he makes it, now he's in line for a Super Max and guess what? In 2025, in 2027, 82 million points. Man, we ain't show you up again, Ant. He just shaped your sign four years, 294. Last summer? This year? This year. He has the effect now. Hey, that's crazy too, Ant. When I think about it, Joe, and Ant, I'm talking about the top players, you know? Yes. The Cades and the Wimby's and some of the players that you know that deserves Super Max based on their value and what they bring to the team, skill set, and what they're able to do. And the fact that, well, if they miss this amount of games, that means we can't reward you for what your true value is. That's, in a sense, that's messed up. That's messed up. The fact that they even agreed to that when, listen, entries is a part of sports. Entries is a part of anything, any sports you play. And the fact that now they're kind of punishing players where if you miss this many games or you don't play this many games, you know what, we're not gonna reward you with what your true value is because your ass always hurt. Yeah. And guys would just sitting out and see here's the thing. How do you, that's their body. You don't know, they could be hurt. They could be telling the absolute truth. But, oh, Joe, when I got a game on a Saturday night, and it's supposed to be a big game, or I got a game on a Sunday, and guys sitting down in the street clothes, and they got the NBA said no. They don't worry about it. Yeah. We gonna fix this. Yeah, the NBA PA signed off on it. Joe, they couldn't have done anything. This has to be, this is collected. You're right, you're right. You're right. The players, see, the player signed off on it, and then it's like, oh, I got buyer's remorse. Cause this is really, hey, this is really, this really hurt me. Damn. It's hurting the game, bro. It is. I don't think I've ever seen a year to where we've had this many of our stars out. Yeah. You know, missed a significant amount of time. I don't think I've ever seen it, man. I'm telling you, I think this is probably historic this year. Seriously. Yeah. And the guys are getting bigger, stronger, faster. So they're gonna have to get themselves in better conditions. Yeah, they do, man. They do. Hey, Joe, you been in the gym yet? Come on, man. Come on, stay in the gym, baby. What's up? I'm talking about like, you know, getting some shots, working on the ladder movement. I didn't see you some footage when I go tomorrow. Nah, hey, hey, Joe. Hey, I got to show these shoes. I got Joe just for you, Joe. And I got them literally just to play you, to make sure you got. Hey, Joe, you, hey, hold on, hold on. I don't want to leave and go get them. Okay, okay, okay. Let me, let me know. Let me make a call and tell them to bring my shoes. Hold on. Hey, hey, look. I'm gonna tell his a-head, can't rag the hell he don't. Hey, Joe, I promise you one thing, Joe. I promise you one thing. The way you think and you talk like you finna drag me on my mom arresting. No, don't, don't, don't bring your mom in this. Don't, don't. I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna tell you, Joe, I'm telling you how it's gonna be, Joe, I know you wanted to grade it, Joe. I just studied you. Oh, Joe, I, hey, hold on. I made a DVD, I made a DVD in there, right? I made a DVD in there. I have all your, all your, all your, all your clips, right? Your best move. So I've been watching your tendencies. What the move you like to do? Hey, one, two, and come back to the left and pull up. Joe, I've been watching it, Joe. I've been watching. No, you laughing, I'm serious. Tell me I'm lying. Hey, uh. Dribble twice to the right, come back, cross over with the left, and pull up right away. Tell me I'm lying. Hey, uh, who raised you, man? Okay. For real, for real, who raises you, for real? Joe, I got, I got the whole breakdown, Joe. I'm ready. What? You ready for it, Joe? Hold on, matter of fact, and let me go get the shoes. Hold on, hold on, cause she's sleeping. Hey, hey, Joe, did you watch LeBron tonight? Did you see how he came out tonight? Hey, boy, I'm playing Winnie Man. Did you see how he came out tonight, Joe? That's what we been looking for. Man down, though. There, get it, get it, get it, how you get it. Look, the man, what he got? 26, eight, and 11. 26, 11 today? 11 for 17. On level of 17, three or five. That's what I'm talking about, Joe. But that's what I'm saying. If he gone just assert himself early on, then the rest of them dudes will catch up, man. The game will be easy for them too. You know what I mean? Like, you ain't necessarily gotta just come out and be Magic Johnson right off dump, the way you just facilitating the whole first quarter, man. Damn, all that. I need you to get to it. Yeah, I mean, he like, you try to break Scottie Skye's assist record, try to get 31. Hey, you see, hey, hold on. We need 35. Hold up, you see Brunney in there with 10 points, four for seven from the field. You see Brunney, I think. Hey, look, I don't know about nobody else. Chat, y'all let me know what y'all think. But for me, when I watched the Lakers play, I love seeing Brunney out there with LeBron, for whatever reason. I love seeing them run, pick and roll together. I love to see Brunney get assist, I'll Brunney, Brunney get assist. Like, because I feel like this is so historic that it's happening in real time and a lot of people can't even appreciate it. But I can't even imagine being in the NBA, me and my son on the same team, bro. That just sounds crazy. What's this you got, bro? And LeBron don't look at him as a son, because LeBron, he gave LeBron that bad pass against Dallas. He like, Brunney. What the? Oh, what did he do? He probably got home and Savannah like, hey, don't you yell at my baby no more. Hey, you know what's funny? All that cursing they do on the court, Joe. I mean, you couldn't play with your son because the first time he cursed you off the mountain. Oh, you got them carries, huh? Yeah, yeah, Kari sent these to me. Hey, Kari be watching the show. Let me see what they look like. Let's see what they look like. Hey, hey, uncle, Kari be watching the show, right? And he told me he gave me his blessing to give Joe that work. I'm gonna knock them damn tassels off them damn shoes, boy. When I get done with your ass. You see that, Joe? Yeah, I see. Hey, that's what you gonna see. You gonna see them tassels going right by your ass. That's what you gonna see. Kari going back to his heritage. Hey, Kari, I appreciate that boy. I love you, you hear me? I ain't gonna let you down. I'm gonna give Joe that work. I'm telling you. What I'm hooping in, they ain't gonna be the mess with what I got. I ain't even gonna show you. You gonna see them when you see me, partner. Yeah, that's how I roll. Hey, hey, hey, okay, okay. Hey, mind your mouth, Joe. Mind your mouth, now. Trends come and go. Your skin barrier doesn't. E45 lotion is effective, science-backed hydration for everyday use. Light weight, fast absorbing, and trusted to do what your skin needs. No fuss, no compromise. Just soft, smooth, healthy-looking skin every day. Grab your E45 lotion now. Co-op members now get prices matched to Audi. Hold on, no way. Okay, then, so, co-op members now get everyday essentials priced matched to Audi. Sign up and start saving. Co-op, owned by you, right by you. I wasn't expecting that. Colt member prices matched versus comparable selected products at AudiGP. Colt membership required. Colt group foods at alsonysc.co.uk. slash AudiPriceMatch. Chet has finished as the number one seed his entire career. In 2018, 19, and 20, in 21 at Miaha Academy, he was the number one seed. In the 2021 Feeble Under 19 World Championship, number one seed, Gonzaga, number one seed, O.K.C., Oklahoma C., O.K.C., number one, number one, number one. I told you, what I told you on Ocho doing the playoffs, I said, the better check becomes, the better O.K.C. will be, and he will determine whether they be a dynasty or not. Because if he played great, it's gonna be hard to beat him. Look what he did yesterday, Uncle Ocho, he had 13-14. Yeah. Four blocks. You know what I'm saying? So he rim protected. Not only is he scoring, but he rim protecting. He making the game easy for the guys around him as well. I think his growth and maturity for O.K.C. will determine how great of a team that they are. Yeah, we know Shay gonna put up 30 plus. We know Jalen, Jalen Williams gonna do his thing. But if Chet can play at a high level, man, they gonna be almost unbeatable, fellas. Would you? Yeah, I mean, he's, look, they just got so many, they just come at you. It's just gonna be hard for somebody to beat him unless they have, and the thing is, what are the likelihood of them having four bad nights? Not likely. Four bad nights, because they got guys that can shoot it. McCain was a great pickup, Caruso, what's the lefty, what's the lefty? What's the lefty who be ballin', little light skinned? Mitchell, Mitchell. I know we talking about, I can't make it with the name, Joe. Is his name Mitchell? It might be, it might be. But Jeremy Clayne was a solid pickup, because remember he was playing really well in Philly before he got hurt. Oh yeah, yeah, no, no, no, he was a great pickup. You know, a very underrated pickup. You know, a guy who is hungry, ready to prove himself. Obviously he feels slighted for what happened to him in Philly. So, you know, he coming over there with, you know, with Avengers, bro, he look good out there, huh? Check this out, Miles Garrett skipped the start of team's off-season program. That puts him on track to lose $1 million in 2026 compensation. Garrett contracts includes a $1 million workout bonus in 2026. To earn it, Garrett must participate in 2026. I can't hear you. We can't hear you. Hey, what's up? Hey, Joe, man, Miles ain't trippin' about that. Man, please, a million, what you mean he ain't trippin'? Well, we talk about Miles Garrett, boy. He's not there for a reason, huh? Sometimes the message is clear. The message is over. What's the message, Joe? Man, he don't wanna be there. Man, come on, now. Come on, now. He don't wanna be there. So you think that's why he ain't showing up for the, for the many counts? Yeah, he ain't never missed before. It's OTAs. Obviously, OTAs is voluntary. It's in your contract. You don't have to come, but if you don't come, obviously you're missing money. He ain't never missed before, I'm sure. I don't quote me. I'm just saying, why would they make it a story now? If he's always been there, if he's always been there, he's not showing up this year, you're not showing up for it. Hell, he got his money, oh, Joe. He took the money. If he ain't wanna be there, he shouldn't have took the money. He took the money. Now, come on, Joe. We got it. Yeah, we got it. Yeah, we got it. Oh, but here's the thing, though, Ocho. What do they have? What is, what's different? Coaches. A new coach. Yeah. A new system. Yes, sir. Remember, we had this, the same thing with Lamar. We had this conversation about Lamar, new system. So, and look, I'm like, Joe, if they'd had a million dollars in my contract, I would have been there. But like I said, they was trying to give me $50 a day. I said, I'll hell with you. I said, I worked my last $50 a day job when I was landscaping back in college. I said, ain't no more $50 a day for me. But I got a question for you, and Joe, think about this. Someone like Miles Garrett, you know? As well as he played last year, as well as he played in general, someone like that, that is as valuable as they are, who is the identity, not just that defense, but the identity to that franchise, they still won, what, five games? Four games or whatever it may have been? Why not give him... Yeah, Joe, why not give him the opportunity to go somewhere else and give him a chance to win? Why not? Because you're losing with probably the greatest defense in that's playing in today's game. Why not give him opportunity to do that? Well, maybe they... And I think, and the message to me, I mean, I don't know, maybe I'm tripping, chatting, you can let me know if I'm tripping, but to not show up to OTAs, which you've always have, and there's a new regime, new coaching staff, new defensive scheme, new offensive scheme, everything being implemented in, and you don't show up? I mean, the message has always been clear. You don't have to come out and say it, you're actually gonna show okay, as enough is enough. I might be wrong. I kind of thought that like, okay, a new... Like, a lot of times, like, with a new coach, when a new coach comes, they can have three men in camp, you get in, you wanna show your face as a leader, you wanna learn the defense, and plus a million dollars. I pick up a million dollars while I'm doing that, but I mean, it'd been tough for me, because when I'm there, I'm there. I really didn't go home, like, all the weeks and stuff like that, or like, some guys, we get off, and we wouldn't have to be back until Wednesday, and some guys would go wherever they go. I was never like that. So when I was there, endeavor, I was there. Once I left, I wasn't trying to be back until I absolutely had, positively had to be back. Yeah, I ain't do that. I ain't do that. Joe, we had our offseason program for 13 weeks. It was Monday through Thursday. Friday, Friday through Sunday was off. Nine times out of 10, that Friday through Sunday, I'm going back to Miami. And I would always, I would always do the morning work on a Thursday, and I'd get on a flight Thursday evening, fly to Miami, relax here, don't do anything, probably do some training as well. Relax Thursday, then back on the plane, Sunday night, and then repeat it. It was a 13 week program. It was fun. I really enjoyed it because I'm a gym rat, Joe. Hell, I can't stay out the gym. I can't stay out the gym now. And now I'm playing nothing. So you can imagine back then when I was playing. So I was excited to go to the offseason program and just, you know, see the fellas, man. It was cool to see the fellas. I was trying to see no fellas. Hey, I remember moving my rookie early on because Dan, that was a big thing for Dan. You had to beat her. I was like, man, I sure hope I can get good enough one day I don't have to come to this issue. As soon as I got good enough, I had to come to this issue. Oh, yeah, you one of our leaders, I'm leading from Atlanta. That's what I'm leading from, I'm a me for Atlanta. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Y'all not paying, y'all paying him to lead. He making the big bucks. Y'all ain't paying me to lead. I'm being Atlanta. And besides, and then Mike just came to the realization, he said, you know what? He's like, I remember in 96, I didn't come back and they didn't do no off-season program. And he was like, we got there practice. He said, let me see what you looking like. So I pulled my shirt up. He like, you ain't never got to worry about coming back. Obviously you had the nuts in your stomach. What? Joe shredded like a truck tax return. Hey, Joe, that's what I look like now, Joe. Yeah. Well, hey, that boy was looking like an email. It's gone. Disappear, you know what I'm doing? I don't like that. Yeah, man. But I'm like, Joe, you know damn well, if the bingos put a million dollars, in no matter how much you, you ain't let that go. Hey, mine was only 250 and I was there. So a million. Yeah, oh, I mean, I'm there. I'm there. And you know, it's funny too. It's out there. When it comes to my crap in general, you don't have to incentivize for me because I love what I do. I love working, I love training. I just, I love being in that environment. But just the fact that to be there, you mean you're going to pay me this to be there? Yeah. And I already like to do it anyway. Well, hell, shoot. No, no, no, no, no. But see, the thing is with that, I did away with the senators in my contract. After they screwed me out of that 100 grand, I ain't put no more incentive. What you mean? How they screw you out of that 100 grand? What happened? Cause man, I was supposed to get 100,000 for a thousand yards. Joe, I had 995 yards at the half. I had 116 yards and two touchdowns. And they ain't throw the ball to me? On six catches. And they catch another pass to throw the second half. Hey, they did that on purpose. I know they did this. And guess what? I ain't put another, tell me if you wanted to say that, I want nothing. Cause y'all, y'all gonna pay me what y'all supposed to pay me. And I'm supposed to lead the team and catch it. I'm supposed to lead the team in yards. I'm supposed to be an all pro. I'm supposed to go to the pro bowl. I don't need y'all to incentivize that. Cause y'all pay me enough. That's what I'm supposed to do. I don't need no extra. Hey, Joe, they play that game. They all go screaming anyway. Like there's a lot of people, Joe. Yeah, I know. I ain't gonna lie, but that football cut through. That football. Hey, Joe, they play that game with a lot of people. What you have incentives you need to catch is you need certain yards that are running back. They would play with you. If you're being on the field, a certain amount of snaps, all that stuff, they keep tracking everything. They keep tracking everything. And they will not let you hit it depending on who you are. And they do it on purpose every time. Like that little chunk of change compared to what they have is gonna make a big difference. Cause you gotta realize, Hunter Fowler with a lot of money than me cause I was only making 325. Right. Hunter Fowler, hey, that was not a little chunk of change in the whole shake. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And you know, I had three. Yeah. Pampers, I got a, got a, got your boy, that got your boy about two, three years of Pampers right there. Pampers, hey, daycare, man, you know daycare was expensive back then. I don't know what daycare is now, but I know it's expensive on your boy. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I can only imagine. I mean, hey, you gonna know what it's like soon. And now you're gonna- Oh, Joe Mike, I don't know nothing. I thought we talked about this, fellas. No, we, no, no. You and Joe talk about this- No, no, no, no, no. No, Joe was on my side. Joe said he done- Joe and then me and- Hey, hey, you know what? You know what I just thought about? Think about this. Think about how other ethnicities, other races, they plan having their kids at the same time so they could do everything together. Can you imagine all us, you know, with our babies pushing strollers at the park? Nah, I can't imagine that. No. Pretty soon somebody will have to push me. That's what- That's what I'm talking about, push the baby, me. That's gonna be my big ass in the chair. You're talking- What the hell you talking about, man? Hey, it's a movie, it's a movie like that. I can't remember what movie it is. I think that would be dope though. Like that's a TV, listen, that's a TV series in itself. You know, Nightcap with the kids. I'm already sitting in the third seat in the SUV. I'm already sitting in the very back with the thing pulled down with my leg on top of it. I'm done, oh Joe. I'm gonna practice, I'm gonna practice, I'm doing all I can, but I'm gonna go to coach, don't put me in, I don't know no place. Hey, hey, hey, oh Joe, oh Joe, your boy over here, I ain't doing number shooting blanks, man. I cut the line over here. Yeah. Line cut over here, man. Oh man, God ain't got it on me. I'm already playing, I ain't got no doggy water. Come on, but nah, come on Joe, you did that, Joe? I struck out, oh Joe, I got three. Three strikes out, baby. But Joe, you weren't supposed to cut the line because all numbers is bad luck, Joe, it's in the Bible. Ain't no bad luck, your boy ain't doing number shooting blanks, man, that's all right. Yeah, yeah, this ain't it. I'm like, me and my lady, we just practicing. We just practicing. That's it, that's it. Oh Joe, I ain't got no more some pond water in me, this ain't strong at all. Damn man, I can't believe, this ain't water, ain't got no bubbles to it. This ain't no spark water, you know that little field? They say, what you want, flat or spark water? Give me flat, because that's all I got, give me flat. Hey man, y'all done messed up. I just had, I envisioned us having a TV show with its new fathers after 40. I mean, listen, Netflix is gonna pick that up. Hey, hey, hey, now if you, I can reconnect it, I can reconnect the line now, but it's gotta be worth it, you know what I mean? Oh, I'ma talk to Netflix, because they approached me about it, I say listen, I'ma talk to the fellas and see what they can do. Oh man, I ain't gonna know what y'all done. Y'all ain't got one more, you ain't got one more in y'all. There we go, Joe, there we go, Joe. There we go, Joe. I ain't got it, Joe, I ain't gonna lie to you. I wish I could tell you something, but I ain't got it in me, bro. I ain't gonna hold you right, but because of who you are, because the value in which we possess, you know, they were talking, they were talking, you know, North of 400 million. Huh? You just don't want to be. Boy. Listen, I ain't tell you what I heard, I ain't tell you what I heard, I'm telling you what I know. Boy, look at her. Hey, but they, they, they, they, they, they, I'ma have to take this off the jacket, Casey. I'ma have to take it out the jacket, I'ma take it. I'ma take it, hey, hey, hey, come on, now. Hey, that's how the brand, hey, hey, hey, listen, I'm just telling you, I'm just telling you what they told me. Now it was a conversation in vague, you know, and I was vision, like I was giving them the play and the possibility of it happening, and I'm like, man, that would be dope, because no one has ever had anything like that. Nobody, at the same time, you know, it do one, it do nothing. You know what, you know what, guys, I'll be honest with you, if I was close to your age, if I was in my mid-fifties, I'd say, you know what, guys, let's do it. And I'm down to 60 years. There's a, hey, hey, hey, hey. And by the time that thing said in, you know, I had to catch one when she just right, about seven days afterwards, catch her just right, probably about four, five times a day for like three, four days. Right. You good? You good, that's when they got them real spoilt. Man, I'm 75, 76 years old, going to a high school graduation. What's wrong with that? They tell my little Sterling, because I was naming them after my brother, little Sterling, your granddad out here, that's my daddy, boo. I don't know. I mean, them numbers, them numbers sounded real good, which is why I can't do it. They do sound good. Oh, Cho. Yeah. Hey, mama changing two sets of diapers. Here's that man. Hey, y'all now. Hey, pick up some diapers for me or for him. Oh man, that's funny, bro. Hey, I know what you mean, boy. Ooh. I don't know what that they... Joe said, I reconnect the line. Oh. Bad, Ocho, I didn't dare. I'm like, Ocho, you got eight. I know, I know. I want twins and I'm done. That'll put you right at, not only will you have a start in five, but you got a bench too. Yeah, and my bench is going to be just like O.K.C. Damn. I'm saying how many boys you got, Ocho? Damn, you only got two. Yeah, my... What? Yeah, my younger son here, he play receive at Noel and he here with me now. Damn. You only got, you so you got, hold on, you got six girls and two boys? Yeah. Oh, you know they have a number, you don't have twin girls, they don't have eight and two. No, I'm doing FBI. Make sure you have boys. You ain't no FBI in vitro. I said FBI. I be in vitro fertilization. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's a, yeah, that. No, FBI there investigating. You don't need to investigate nothing. Nah, hell nah, man, please. And you don't want that, cause you already know, man, you don't know how much that cost, man. Let me say it cost. What? Man, that's expensive. No, it ain't. IVF? Come on, IVF probably, what, maybe 2000. Hell no, it's about 2025 K. 2025, 30,000. Man, don't let the people rip you off. Come on, that's a rip off. Now you have to go to multiple places and do the price comparisons. Like, they can't get that much. They must, they must run and put a chicken in you girl. That boy going, hey, he going somebody back yard. You be a gay man, you be a gay man. Gay birth to a two pound hand. Man, you better go to, Joe, you better go to a rep. He going, hey, hey, he going, hey, you be like the people that be suing, all of a sudden there is a white couple and they got a black baby. Or this black couple, they got an Asian, man, you better go to somewhere rep. You talking about you trying to save money. You talking about somebody back yard. Talk about men, please. Yeah. They got a, they got a chicken baster. Like they put gravy on the turkey. Hey, that's funny. Hell nah, I'm good man. I got you. Jacksonville Jaguars expect Travis Hunter to be a full time corner and a part time receiver. Rappaport adds Hunter is expected to be a full participant in training camp as he continued to recover from an LCL tear that ended his 2025 rookie season. Hunter's snap count weighed heavily favor of the offensive side of the ball last year. Overall, in 2025, Hunter saw 324 snaps on offense, 162 snaps on defense. So hold on, Ocho, what in Rappaport is reporting is what you and I have been saying. Yes. Yes. Go ahead, go ahead. Take it off. Y'all watch out, take the conversation. I don't want to be one of them guys to say I told you. So go ahead, Ocho. I mean, Joe and obviously Travis, his dream was going to the NFL, he said it to multiple teams is I'm hoping to do exactly what I did at Colorado. I want to be able to play both sides of the ball and be able to impact the game on both sides of the ball. Unk said, and I said as well, and I agree with him, that would be too much because of the level of talent and elite players at set a position. Think about it, Travis Hunter playing DB didn't have in a cover, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson. And then some of the elite while I was receiving the league and then having to turn right back around and go play on goddamn offense and play receiver and then still be of value and being very, very tactical and technical when it comes to playing a position. So at that point, you could only be just good on both ends. We could just focus on one position and be great at defensive back, which you really good at and then have packages to play on offense, which you can also be impactful where they have special plays designed just for you to get the ball because with the ball in your hands, well, you are special, special, but a full time DB is perfect. It says in the wake of Hunter's injury last season, fans were calling a jack to choose just one position for Travis. Though we could see Hunter get some snaps at Y receiving 2026, it looks like he'll be dedicated cornerback for the foreseeable future. That's what I'm saying. It's easier. Out, Ocho, I mean, in order for this, and I didn't think like, he's like, oh, I can do it. I said 130 snaps, like, eh? Yeah, eh. I said, it's easier for him to play corner and build a couple of packages in, Ocho. We got a couple of sets like they did for champs. Like they did for some of the other guys, like they did for time. There've been other guys that played. Charles Wilson. Yeah, Woody. Roy Green actually started off as a corner, got some plays at Y receiver, and then he was so good, they ended up moving to Y receiver and took him out of the corner. We're going at Joe Wood. No, I agreed with Ocho. I think, you know, him being a DB, and then kind of similar, similar what Uncle just saying, like how the Cowboys used Deon, you know, he was a DB, but they had a package in there for Deon where, you know, he would be on offense from time to time. And I think that's the same way to Jaguars probably gonna use Travis Hunter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like you say, 130 some snaps a game. Hell, that's basically full time on both sides, right? And it takes a toll on you, bro, cause you never get a rest. Nah. Nope. I like it. I like it too. I like it too. He's doing this so he can focus on one thing, focus on being the best defensive back he can be, depending on where they move him. Listen, and obviously, as great as you are, I hope you become not just a DB, but a traveling DB, a DB that follows the one. Man. Do that. You want to hit that payday up, hitting another payday, follow the number one on every team and then have small packages on offense and go impact the game that way. Hey, look, I understand what you guys are saying. Hell, y'all played the game at a very high level, but I love seeing Travis on offense too, on Ken Ocho. Boy, got some hands. He electric when he catch the ball. You know what I mean? I feel like he's always a big play away. You feel what I'm saying? So I definitely hope they still keep him on offense from time to time. It ain't gotta be every down, but for the most part, I want to see that electric side of him too. Yeah, of course. And I think the thing is, look, you got Parker Washington, you got Brian Thomas Jr. in this company that had it off season. So you can plug in me and defensively is where, like, okay, we need a little help here. Guys that can get up to the quarterback, we can really use travel. Like you said, Ocho, travel. Take care of it. Because you got Nico Collins and you got guys in that division. Vision. You gonna have to deal with that. So, I like it. All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. ["Cue the R&B Theme Song"] Hopefully we sit at the memo. Y'all stop with the corny jokes. But before we get to our super chat, we do got five video voicemail from our Discord. Let's hear video number one. What's going on, y'all boys, man? I just want to say, I relate to you, like, on a spiritual level for real, because my folks, I grew up on my grandparents, you know what I'm saying? And they from Washington, Georgia. So it's them, we got the same grandparents. Like, when you say what you say, like, I feel that's in my soul, you know what I'm saying? And then Ocho, I ain't gonna lie, like, I fuck with you heavy. We were out with you heavy, but you know, Joe walk on water in Atlanta. So you put your hands on that boy, you cannot come back to Atlanta no more. I'm just playing, but man, I love y'all. I show them, I watch every day, you know what I'm saying? I'll play keep it going, man. I love y'all boys. Ocho, I totally appreciate that, man. That's awesome. Don't play without me, Ocho. Hey, you heard him say I'm just playing it then, too, because it was gonna have to be two people on the hit list. He was gonna get this working. You know what I'm gonna get to. But hey, listen, y'all are gonna be a combo, man. Y'all gonna be a two-fool, y'all gonna be a two-fool. I appreciate Buddy for even speaking up, but he ain't gotta worry about nothing. You hear me? Yeah, don't even worry about nothing, play boy, I got it. Hey, Joe, hey, Joe, hey, Joe, man, listen, man, Joe, I'm about this far off your ass. Boy, you hear me? Hey, I'm telling you, I'ma tell you what you need to do. Hey, I'ma tell you now, put a condom in your ear and fuck with your head, because you're gonna get your ass wet, boy. Zahl media hall of fame. You cannot tell me these are not going to be first ballot inductees. Right. Cat Williams, Coach Brown, Michelle and King ISO. Those are first ballot hall of fame. Shea Shea media inductees. Damn, I appreciate that, bro. Appreciate that. Hey, what can I say, man? Hey, what can I say? You know, who, who gave it? Who gave it? Who gave it? You know what I mean? Here's video number three. Let's take a listen. On old Joe, ISO Joe, this is boy Trey. In the chat, I'm beer game 268. Question for you all tonight with the NFL draft coming up. Do y'all think we'll see any more of those gigantic trades like the like the Herschel Walker trade from the nineties? I know that one around the draft, but you know, that massive kind of trade or the Ricky Williams trade, which was for the draft when it got rid of all day, first round draft picks to pick him up. Do y'all think we'll ever see another one of those big trades again in the NFL? Appreciate y'all. Yes, absolutely. Well, we got this memory trade, trade lands was a big trade. Yep. I think, I think in comparison and comparison to that Ricky, Ricky, William trade where they gave up all those first round picks. Yeah, I say, I say Miles Garrett is on the move. I say now I don't know. I don't, I don't know if it, it, what probably won't happen draft day, but I think AJ Brown, AJ Brown will also be on the move after the June 1st, June 1st, after June 1st, June, he would be on the move as well. Any other players, there aren't any other players right now where where it's, where the roads are rocky, that, that, that it would make extreme headlines. Oh my God, so and so just got traded. I mean, everyone else is probably setting stone. Maybe Dexter Jackson, Dexter Jackson, who says he, you know, he wants to be traded. Dexter Lawrence, you mean Dexter Dexter Lawrence, I'm sorry. I'm thinking about the Jack that played with me and Cincinnati and played for the Bucks. I'm tripping. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I look, I think the thing is D. Lawrence, he don't have any more guaranteed money. Oh, he trying to get a new country. He won't get maybe he trying to pull, he trying to pull the mouse. Do they value him the same way they value Miles Garrett though, where that was Ocho is hard when it's sat total depth away. It did. I just can't. But I can't. I can't. Oh, Joe, he the detackle. I know. I know. Look at his numbers, Oh, Joe. And you got Brian Burns. You got Thibodeaux. You got Carter. They both had double digits. It brand brand burns at like 1718 sacks. Yeah. I cannot. And I think I think Dexter is a phenomenal detackle, but I cannot reward him coming off the season that he just had. Damn. I can't. I just can't. I would say I would think I would think in a sense based on how well he's played despite his dip in sack total, he still is. I paid him. I compensate him. I made him a high speed defensive tackle. I mean, close to the high speed one time. Right. I paid him. I paid him. Oh, Joe. Now I'm paying on both based on what I think you'll do. I can't pay you on what you done because I've already paid you on that. You for that. Oh, yeah. That's a good one. That's a good one. Hey, you talking like a GM there? I mean, look, I think I got look and and and and got burns. I don't know what he's going to do with them, but though I don't I don't know what they're going to do with them. I mean, I do Carter. He's the third pick of the draft. He ain't going nowhere. I think they were the ones like the fifth or the sixth pick in the draft. You got Brian Burns, who's been unbelievable. Oh, Joe. Yes, sir. That man had a half a sack last year. So what do I pay for a half a sack? Oh, Joe. Hold on. That's all he had for the year. Yes. Hey, Joe, he a detackle. Joe, he taking on a double team every game, Joe. And the year before he took on double team, it had eight and a half. Yeah, it is a Joe is hard for sex to, you know, hard for detackle to come by sex. I mean, that's why Aaron Donald was Aaron Donald. It's hard to do what Aaron Donald did. Right. Dealing with that double team every you got to 300 pound people on you every play. Yeah. Oh, Joe. Oh, Joe, he went from nine sacks to a half. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you. Oh, I can't. I can't. Well, that's a that's a horrible precedent to sit. Right. Because you know what's going to happen. Guys are going to have terrible years and they don't have any more guaranteed money. They're going to say what you did for Dexter. I like I like where you going. I can't. I can't. I got you. He got to play. He got to play for this one. Thank. Mm hmm. I mean, he he went from seven and a half to four and a half to nine to a half a sack. I can't. I can't. Oh, I'm sorry. Here's the fourth. Well, let's take a listen. What's up, Uncle Ocho and still you King Iso, man. We don't even care about you losing, man. You still a king, bro. All that stuff, you all that work you done put in on them boys. Man, we forget bowling golf in the frisbee game. We ain't forget that, man. You really what, three and one against them boys. Right. They ain't messing with you. But you a cancer, I'm a cancer. You know, I'm going to order some of that La Portier, man. I don't know where to get the cigars from Ocho from, man. So I'm going to have to beat them up to find out about it. I guess, man, he'll never drop them in the chat or nothing. I'll never say nothing about the cigars no more. Man, what's up? Like I'll put these paws on you or what, dog? All right. I'm five 11, 185. Ocho, boy, I'll do it to you. Five 11. Yeah. Hey, you catch a strange from everybody, bro. Now, they may know straight. Them just from people that want their ass up in the actually, you know what? He want he want me to put these paws on him so he can take me to court. He think he's slick. Hey, hey, hey, young boy sign this waiver so we can get this thing on. So you can see what these hands see with hella hands. No talking back. Here's our last one. Our fifth and final one. Let's take a listen. What up, huh? What up, Iso? What up, Ocho? Man, I'm just 24 year old from Mississippi. I just knew what y'all got going on. I just want to ask a question. I really, really be on my mind a lot. And I'm a 24 year old, like I said, got two little boys. And it get hard here a lot. You get to get real hard out here. I ain't gonna lie. Working a job you really don't want to do, but you just trying to make ends meet. Well, what's some advice you would give to me? If you could give me advice, what advice would you give to me? Thank you. Work your job that you have until you can get to find a job that you won't. Because like you said, you have other responsibilities other than yourself. Maybe if it was just you, you could like, you know what? I'm going to kind of look for me a job that I really want to do. But in the meantime, you don't have that luxury because you have two other miles to feed. Now, I don't know if you have a girlfriend or wife or significant other. I don't know. But I just know that you said you have two little boys and them two little boys are depending on you. So until you find something that you want to do or you like to do, you've got to stay where you are and stay and stay grounded. And that happens a lot. I mean, that's the whole thing of eventually finding something that you love because there's nothing worse than being on a job that you don't want to. It's nothing worse than being in a relationship that you don't want to be in. Oh, Joe, remember, I mean, the loneliest places to be somewhere that you're not wanting. But, bro, don't give up the faith. Don't stop because, like you said, you got two little boys that are depending on you, that are counting on you. So until you find something that you like and that you really love to do, just stay where you are. Just keep grinding. Hey, things are going to change. But hey, stick, pray about it and start putting in applications. I don't know what you want to do. I wish you would have said that, you know, I'm doing X, but I really want to do Y. I wish you could have given us a little bit more information. Yeah, bro, you got to hang in there, man. You locked in big fellas. Yes. So, yeah, especially for the little ones, boy, them little ones. Yeah, yeah, whatever. Hey, sometimes, sometimes whatever you got to do for them to make sure they straight, you know, like, I'm saying just lock in on X until Y comes about and comes in the fruition, then you'll be able to do what you love. Yeah. Ain't nothing like it ain't nothing like putting a smile on them kids face, bro. But yeah, yeah. And it don't take much. Don't bro. Don't. It don't take much because they don't know that. Hey, hey, we want to end. We want to. I took my kids and dreaded today because they on spring break. What? Hey, I'm hell on them go-karts now. I don't play no game now. I'm hell on them go-karts. But, you know, my kids love and dreaded, bro. We go to and dreaded. Yeah, I do take back my son. Now he four years old, he play everything in that boy. He be hell to get him up out of there. Yeah. Yeah. But they love it though. Loving me. Long as they smile and I'm good, bro. Yeah. Jiu Jitsu 83, Pym Bluff here can 100% remember I so winning at all. Pym Bluff, Arkansas, 42 year old man. Love y'all just wanted to say the way you interact with us fans make us feel included. That's it. Three million this time next year and I'll be here. Hey, man. Hey, look, I told y'all man ain't gonna lie to you because of sound fly to your own show. I don't do that. They ain't what I do. One from we'll get down like that. You feel. Hey, Joe, that was a Joe. That was one person that that that that like Jay Z said that ain't enough. You need more people. Now what you want from me now? The man them bouts. And you need a one person bouts. Well, then how many people you want to vouch? I can make sure we get many in here now. That ain't enough. I need to see footage, Joe. I need to see footage. Aaron Owens, five one three. Hey, I interviewed Vince Buck from Central State about his senior bowl experience as an HBCU player. What was yours like and how did it shaped you? I did not go. I actually me and VB. I think I know I know I went to the East West Shrine game with VB because VB and I came out the same year. Vince Buck, I think I'm trying to think where did Vince go? Did he go to New Orleans? I had no DC because me and Darian Goren came out also and he was from Jackson State. He was a coach WC Goren. What a WC Goren's boys. I'm trying to think but going to those bowl games and seeing those guys. I went to the blue-gray game, which was in on Christmas in Montgomery in Montgomery, Alabama. And then I went to the East West Shrine that was in Palo Alto. I would like to go up against those guys at the University of Miami and know the name and all those guys. I mean, I knew I belonged. But to be there and to be on the field and be able to compete against those guys, I was like, yeah, man. It was an unbelievable experience and it's great for an HBCU guy to be there and people think enough like, you know what, let's bring him up here and see. I know he did against lower level competition, but let's see when we add competition if he's still willing to compete. Oh, I am. Let's see if they still willing to compete. When they see, they ain't never seen those six, two, 225 pounds a season. Yeah, built like an African God. They ain't seen nothing like this here. Goat 2022, Ocho King Isle, that Gucci man and Poo Shire situation going to have ever been in a situation where you signed a bad contract or felt someone slidered you and how did you react? Man, you signed a contract. You suck. That's why they don't do in the beginning. Yo, when they say word is bond, that's what they meant. A contract was a means of the minds. You agree. Okay, Joe, I tell you what, for a pig and a bushel of corn, I'm going to trade you goat's milk or cow's milk and some chicken. Okay, we have a contract. Okay, good. But guess what? Somebody got what they intended to get first and the other guy renewed. And so they say, you know what? Now, verbal contracts can still be binding. But once you put your name on the dotted line, it's rough. That's what it is. Kind of hard. It's kind of hard to get up out of it. Hey, hey, like Gucci say, what the hell? That's the truth, man. Damn. But I ain't going to jail. What? Hey, hey, not if I just got out. If I just got done doing four or five years. Shit. I ain't going back. I like freedom too much. I like money. I like everything. I don't. I'm trying to think. Unless they got a bear, let's say you got 700, 800 million buried up under the jail somewhere. I ain't really trying to go. Hey, they got no bear treasure. I heard no bear treasure in the penalty entry, no jail or nothing. There ain't no bear treasure. Oh, I ain't trying to go there. See that? And. Big ant. What's going on? Nightcap fam. In your guys opinion, who's a better power dunker? Dominique or Sean Kim. That's a good one. That is a very good one. Man, I think power power power. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't look. Kim Kim a bad boy. He got some power, but Nick has some power. But neat. Oh my God. Yeah. Come both of them. I mean, Dominique with double pumping back was on people. Man, man was windmill in two hand. I'm talking about. Come on, man. But Sean Kim got some nasty ones too though. Oh, you remember he dunked on Kim? Yo, yeah. You got it. Yeah. Point at him. He cuffed that thing. He come through that thing like that. Yeah. That's how I'm gonna do on auto. Boom. Oh, man. I flip you. You think about dunking on me, man? What you thought this was, boy? I Joe, I flip you, man. By the time you jump, you're going to be on your head. Joe, Joe, I'm not one of them. Joe, I'm not one of your little NBA friends. Joe, like I play dirty, boy. You hear me? Yeah. Hey, oh, Joe, I'm and you and your best bet is to have a referee to need that. I'm built for the bullshit now. You know what I mean? I'm built for that. OK, OK. I'm built for that. Yeah. Oh, we miss one. We miss one. I miss one. I got to go back. Dr. Frank L. Bellam is like, how are you guys doing? Are you all taking care of yourselves? Are you getting enough rest? No. I'm glad. I ain't gonna lie. Oh, Joe, I slept till I slept till like 11 o'clock today. When? Oh, oh, so you in Miami and show the get beauty rest instead of hit your boy. Hey, I'm in town. Let's go for a break. I've done two podcasts. This is my this will be my fifth podcast in two days. That man working. Oh, Joe, man, he gets to the point. What does that have to do with seeing me hollering at your boy? I'm looking at you right now. I'm looking at you right now. I could I could I could took you to breakfast and some I could treat you something. I'm glad you in here this day. Damn it. May everybody stand there and say I'm glad. All right. All right. Burn rub on his ass. We get up out of here too. Yeah, OK. Hey, Joe, Joe, you are most of my last learn. I'm telling you now. Like my grandma used to say now. All right. But yeah, yeah, I be bad. I've been. Oh, man, I be trying to get some I be trying to get some sleep on the plane. And OK, you don't have no problem sleeping on the plane. I get it. But I don't have no problem sleeping on the plane. Oh, I do. I could probably get like 10, 15 minutes. I can't sleep like Jordan before they take you. Hey, you see, you're making a life. Hey, hey, Jordan, that's me. Come tell me. Hey, look, the only thing that wake me up is when we hit the ground to what's going. Yeah, I be knocked out. Going to the airport. What the hell? Somebody for the conversation we were supposed to have. That joke. And I ain't that. I'm not that joke. I sleep anywhere. Yeah, I sleep. I sleep good on the plane, too, but it's not. No matter how long. Whoa, Paul. What I say, no matter how short or how long. The flight, I said, no matter how short or long, I said. I just say pause. Good. Pause. Come on, Joe. I said flight. Daniel Wells, 49, 70, big, big three question. How do you guys choose your game to accessory? Do you guys like the color coordinate gloves, cleat shoes and elbow bands with the jersey? Nah, hell nah. I mean, they already picked that out. I mean, you got a home jersey. We have all those jerseys that they got now, oh, Joe, we had a home jersey. We had a road jersey. Hey, that's it. Home fans. Not me. I ain't going to lie to y'all. I like that when I give my ankle shape up, and we wearing our real uniforms for the house, I want that real tape down there, you know what I mean? They're coming up out my sock. Yeah, I want that real tape down there. And we playing on the road. I want my, whatever I'm getting my ankle's taped, whatever color jersey we wear, that's what color I want on my tape. Yeah. Yeah. Now you're on Joe. You about to be superstitious. Maybe, maybe. I just like the color coordinate a little bit. You know what I mean? Nah. On the road, we were in white, and at home, we were in orange. Or blue. Later, we got, for the most part, white and orange, or white and white, or white on white. Don't tell you, you ain't had nothing. You ain't had no, I know you had some accessories. You look. They were catching up with what they were doing. Hey, orange shoes, orange tin strap, orange gloves. Black shoes, black tin strap, black gloves. I just paid the fine, Joe. How much was the fine? I mean, it went up every time. First offense, 5,000. Second offense, 15, no, 10. Second offense, third offense, probably went to 25. I ain't care, Joe. I just picked and choose when to do it. I wore gold cleats, depending on who we were playing. Hey, you know what? When you look at these guys now, especially in the NBA, they ain't even got a, they shoes, they ain't even got a match. They jerseys no more. Yeah, I mean, you look at Boston Hill, they got green uniforms. It might be somebody with some orange shoes. Yeah. Red, look at LeBron. LeBron ain't had shoes yet to match his uniform. LeBron, hey, LeBron coming out with a 23, he's like, look, these gon' be a baby. Go buy these. All right. Tell this uniform. Right, thanks, thanks. Who did Jim rat? Coach, you'll basically say McDonald is a preventive medicine. I mean, I mean, the proof is in the pudding. It's a scientific fact. Scientific fact. Well, you know, Brendan Crowe, do you guys believe the top three wide outs in the draft are Tate, Lemon, Tyson, or the three sleepers out there, like Ted, Hurst, Chris Bell, and Bryce Lance? Um, I think Lemon, was it Lemon or Tyson that won the, uh, the Blitner-Coffee Award. I think he's the guy from USC. He likes. I like Tate. It's, look, those wide receivers, it's hard to pick against Ohio's wide receivers because you've seen the production, you see a larvae, you see Garrett Wilson, you see a Bucca, you see J.S. Ian, Marvin Harrison, Jr., off to a little slow start, but don't you, maybe you lose a little weight, get some flexibility back and become that. So we've seen the success that the Ohio State receivers have had over the last several years. So it's hard. It's really, really hard for me to say, like, you know what, I'm gonna take somebody over one of those guys because they are, they're coached up extremely well. They compete. They're great. They got big catch radiuses, they're good run after the catch. And based on what I've seen, it's hard, it'd be hard for me to pick against Tate. Hey, y'all think, y'all think old boy, Jeremiah Smith is gonna be number one pick next year? Man, number one. No question about it. Number one, if you have another season, like he's had the previous two years, number one, there's not, I ain't seen a quarterback. What if Arch Manning plays next season like he played the last four games? That's a good one. Because we were talking about him last four games and he showed out in the bowl. He did. He did. And he's a quarterback. I mean, I mean, I'm starting to think, the last, what last Y-perceived the winning number one overall was what, Kishan? 90 six. Has it been that long? I don't think, you know, yeah, Kishan, 96. And before that was Irving Friar in 84. Yeah, Joe, he special. Because, you know, remember, Calvin was number two behind Jermakas. Jermakas Russell, yeah. So I don't, I don't think, I could be wrong, but I think the last Y-perceived to go number one overall was Kishan in 96. And that was the year they had a bunch of receivers go. Tio was in that draft, Marvin Harrison was in that draft, Moose and Mahami was in that draft. I think Eric Moles was also in that draft. If I'm not mistaken now. Hey, Eric Moles was big in the joker, boy. He was big. He didn't peel this price. Kevin Boat Night. Who should we take it 27? I'm stressing over here, the 49ers. Might need a wide receiver. I don't know if one's gonna be available. Probably another one. Who they got? And wide receiver? Yeah. Who they signed? Ricky Purcell, Mike Evans? Okay. Purcell, Purcell, John Jennings hadn't signed with anyone. He's not back yet. IU is gone. The other guy, what was the guy he ended up going to Arizona? We had him on the show, I forget his name. He was in New England. Then he was in San Fran, goes to New England and then comes back to a. Kendrick Bourne. Yes. What you think? What you think they need? D-Line, DBs? They just gotta stay healthy. That's it. They don't really have a weakness. I'd say maybe a DB, a solid DB. T.S. Carwash Detail Service. I'd say Denver coming out of the West. I don't curse around my parents, my elders. Unk, tell me about Terrell Davis. Man, you would like that, bro. I just love the way he came in and just worked. He started like number six on the jump chart and every day in practice, he just got better and better and getting better. Now I'm not gonna sit here and tell you, I knew he was gonna be that. Cause I didn't, I just knew he worked hard. And like I said, he getting practice and A, he make it happen. And, but it was that play in Japan on the kickoff team that he came in like, man, who is this boy? I said, man, that's that running back TD. I said, they gonna move in after DB. Tell my TD. Yeah. Bro, they put him in and he ain't look back. He was special. I just, obviously he made the Hall of Fame, but there wasn't a better big game running back than you. He was like that. He was like that. Every, I'm talking about any big game that we had, he was showing up, he was gonna do his thing. Darkborn, Unk, oh, Joe Isow, what are your thoughts on Arkansas assistant Chuck Martin joining coach Malone with the Tar Heels? With the Tar Heels. Damn man, that's a huge opportunity. I love Martin and what he's helped Coach Cow, do up there in Fayetteville, but Northwest Arkansas. I hate to see him leave, man. Obviously they probably, they probably dropped him off with a big bag. Okay, oh, Joe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For him to dip like that, but, you know, good luck to him. We got a young class coming in this year, fellas. Y'all thought there's eight couples, nice. Now I ain't gonna say they're gonna win SEC player of the year and freshman of the year Malone, but we got a class coming in, bro. That's gonna be like that. Oh, y'all got some spending. Yeah, it's gonna be like that. Yes, sir. Tino underscore SB, Unk, oh, Joe, still King Isow. You guys watching the Masters all weekend was hoping Bryson D. Shembo could win it, but doesn't look good. I think Rory is tired for the lead. Rory won it last year. I don't know, I used to see a stat, no one that's led opening day has gone on to win the Masters. Normally the guy, you know, starts off slow, is in striking distance and picks it up over the next three days, but I really, look, I like golf. I mean, they better not let Scottie Sheffler get close. All he do is win, win, win. I mean, I don't, I like golf. I don't watch it as much as I once did, like when Tiger was playing, I watch, you know, I find myself sitting down cause I want to see what Tiger was doing, especially the majors and seeing with that red and those black pants making that charge, but. On a Sunday. I just want to go, I just want to go and get, no Ash, ain't nobody eat no pimento cheese, but they still got the prices like they had in the original. So a sandwich would cost you like a dollar, sold us like 50 cents. You ever went to the master's on? I have not. I had an opportunity to go, but man. It's too much walking. I can't walk. Now I am, I'm stuck. I'm stuck like Chuck. Man, this is over those, over those, I think it's what four or five days, they do $70 million in merchandise. Everybody want those hats, those T-shirts, those coffee, those cups. 70 million in five days. I can see that. Jonathan be good. Any chance of bringing a molecule or genitalp on nightcap? What do you want them to do? You just want to have a conversation? No. Keen down Anderson. Oh, Joe, nothing wrong with eating groceries. Been doing it since I was 18. I'm 26. Damn. There we go. What? Hey, hey, that's what that's the saying is say, get behind it. That's what it be. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Now, I know we talked about, you know, we know Ocho like to eat groceries and all that, but both of y'all like y'all groceries, so I don't know what's worth. Yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa, your high. You want to be on, you getting lumped into it. All I said, they call you boy cause call the duty, Ocho, I'll be crawling, Ocho, I'll be crawling. I'm just saying that's all. Hey, Joe, you got to live a little bit. Hey, Ocho, I'm living, babe, I'm talking about. I know, I know, hey, no, Joe, you know, you know, Joe, you living inside your box. You need to get outside the box, okay? So the things and life that you haven't done and you haven't experienced, and I want that for you. I want that for you. I'm sure you're a lady watching the show. Tell her, tell her, tell her how you came home. Don't you know, don't you know when my lady got up, man, that was top of good discussion. She said, she, so many of her friends had done sent her, she said, she said, what's wrong with Ocho? She was like, I said, I don't know, babe, you know, we good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'all in the same boat, yeah, yeah. That was top of good discussion. No, come on, Joe, come on, Joe. Think about this, she up at 730 in the morning talking to me about this. I'm like, baby, come on now. Yeah, yeah, we good, we good over here, we good. Hey, listen, hey, listen, hey, listen. That's Ocho, I be dropping out. Hey, Joe, hey, Joe, it's on her mind, Joe. Just go ahead and man, just let it happen, man, just, you know. So you can come back and tell us about your experience. We good, though, Joe. I mean, these kids starting up young with this stuff, man. I don't know. Joe, hey, uncle's on TV everywhere, man. It's on TV. I mean, I just want to know who, I want to know who the first guy to like, man, guess what I did last night, the old lady. Hey, hey. He, whatever it was, I guarantee he was under the influence, boy. You got to be on the influence doing that. I don't drink, Joe. You got to be doing something, boy. But he wanted to get his stripes, you know, he a tongue fool, man. Yeah. Nah, he got to do it, hey, Joe. I'm just, hey, sometimes, you know, you like to set the standard, man, that's all. Nah, okay. But here's the, but see, but like you said, he said, oh, how you think I get them 12? Oh, okay. Hey, hey, Joe. Oh, okay, I see what's going on, okay. Ain't got, ain't got, ain't got nothing to do, you know, Joe, I ain't spending no money, Joe. I see, you ain't got too well if you, if you eating groceries. Yeah, that, that, that, that, that just happened. That's the story, hey, Joe, that just happened, Joe. Put that baby, put that baby on him. Hey, man, listen, man. Hey, say, you know, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they here for, they here for a good time. Not a long time, Joe. Hell, hell, hell, okay. Yeah. Oh, Joe, man, you got to stop. Oh, Joe got to be stop chat. Y'all tell Oh, Joe he wrong. I'm wrong. Hey, y'all put them, those, uh, emojis in there with the throwing up with. Hey, yeah, no. Okay, okay, oh, Joe, y'all got to chill, bro. Y'all got to chill. Hey, hey, hey, Joe, it's all about. I ain't doing that, Joe. I be chilling, Joe. I ain't like that. I ain't on that type of time. Did you see, hey, uh, uh, did you see that man stand up the other night and spread his cheeks, tongue-bustle? Yeah, did you see that? Yeah, I saw that. Hey, Joe, you got, Joe, you got to lean over the bed, Joe, don't be scared, man. Lean over the bed. Come on. Huh? Hey, tell, tell her to do the hit, do the donkey punch. Tell her punch in the back of the head. What, what did you think? What was playing? Yeah. Yeah, Joe. I'm telling you, Joe. Y'all got, y'all got, hey, Joe, hey. I'm a, Joe, I'm gonna see you. Hey, I'm gonna see you in some video, Joe. I'm about to be 58, oh, Joe. I just, I just, I just, I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to, just trying to make it. See you in another day. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, you want me to see you in some video for visual reference? Hey, uh, uh, that's another episode of Nightcap. We, uh, thank you guys for tuning in. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. Let's kill these asses up outta here. We, ha, ha, ha. Thank you anything would you ever entertain a nightcap roast if so named three comedians Peace and y'all would have to have to like have to have it on it You down for a roast oh Joe yeah Get roasted I mean we all get roasted. I'm an easy target though. I'm so easy to roast No Cuz I say stuff that is roastable and don't care so I'm an easier target than you Yeah, but I have some I have some some incidents doctor. Yeah, but that's not that ain't no My roasting would be way worse than yours Hey Hey, I would I would a same pants every single day. Don't take them off Hey, they did a Joe. They didn't kill my cheetah pants. No, you don't kill Joe damn cheetah pants. Yeah Joe this one for you it says hey, oh Joe Need to teach ISO It up eat the stuff stuff cause pizza man. Come on, bro Yeah, thank you for joining us for another episode of like y'all know who I am Damn Come on, man. They don't do it too much man. Hey y'all come on now Man, don't be falling over on your foolishness. Hey, but the one thing I do know I know he ain't the only one out here doing it though. He's the only one. He definitely the only one night Now y'all just not y'all having matured yet. That's all I'm fully mature Yeah Lord have mercy I Mean if this was going on when I was when I was young Joe if this was this what it was taking when we Joe I don't know what we do Joe Joe man. Come on. Hey, look when I was young what mean like when I was a little y'all So my teenage years I never heard it is I never heard of cats doing that. No Hey, and if a guy did it the girl would get mad and what's once the girl got mad and that's why you Yeah, that insult don't work no more Yeah, that's like like, you know, you call a girl promiscuous you call a H. Oh e I don't work no more You know, they they proud they proud of that stuff. There's really nothing. There's really no way to insure You know us people with spirits. Oh you keep your free spirit in there Yeah, I'm like I'm with I'm in Joe Joe we Oh Joe that friend that's gonna always that would take one foot. Yeah So you gotta keep a guy like oh, no Everybody ain't gonna be ain't gonna be the team. Yeah So You see how you lying Joe that's how my boy You ain't never seen the tools and fuse No, no, no when you was it when you was growing up you had some twos and fuse and hold on y'all y'all never had to take one for the team. Oh No, I was too good of an athlete. I was too good of an athlete. I know Ocho it took one for the team here Absolutely not but I was that boy in high school. What I look like now We have a homeboy for that. Yeah, we are that homeboy Hey, Joe, I was I was him in high school Hey, I'm taking one and I what about when you got the college you oh Definitely, oh absolutely not Come on Joe, so y'all got a golden tip, huh? No, yeah, I gotta go play that's a Joe it's so funny you said that it's so funny you said that Joe they used to call me golden You know what you know what Joe asked you a question, you know, Joe with that guy took a couple of yeah, yeah Yeah, Joe took a couple of blows Joe took a couple of blows. He's a crafter. No, I'm saying it may have been some some some Unfortunate situation I might you know Hey, I might you know had to entertain somebody for you mean like Yeah Conversation No, no, I had a homeboy had a homeboy they me show he didn't it didn't matter he even didn't matter what came through the door No, it did not matter why a did not I got some home Hey, I'm like a Keep on Let me see a miss you I need a thing What you need Me showed it Me show take one for the day Real true but to this day I can I guarantee you I can call my sister as a living Go find me show Hey, I got a ticket for you go to the airport. I need you to take one me show getting on the floor. No question of that Yeah Get on the plane right now. Yeah. Hey, look, we all got some homeboys who took one now Cuz boy, I didn't see I had a scene from my partner come through with some boogey walls. Hey I'm talking about oh Joe I Call my partner one morning boy that was up early in the morning You know what I'm so early Just so happen I was up Yeah Hey, I got a I got a homeboy. I don't call it name cuz he I know Look here. Oh Joe I Say man, you must be a zookeeper cuz I know you get this one from the zoo. Ain't no way I'm talking but it might be let's just say it's 300 people in there and out of the 300 They might be say let's just say for the sake of argument 25 Yeah, he gonna find the worst looking one And be posted up and then cuz you know, I'm over in the corner I'm up in the cut and then he gonna come I I said look here man Meet me at the truck at 12 Don't you come back over I'm being truck at 12, right? Don't you come back over here by me? Cuz I don't want nobody to think right Listen what I'm talking about. I'm talking about I Don't know what I say up and I told him he'll tell you this I say of all the women in here You pick Hey, oh Bringing the Denver he come to Denver is the exact same thing. I'm like You know, you don't have to do this though, right? You know what they do it They they want somebody with low self-esteem man. Hey, hey Understand low but no Low but no Now I'm good if mutual on oh Joe with the World Cup coming up We gonna see y'all at a game if not we getting some coverage on it. Yes, we're definitely covered real football talked about on that Yeah, yeah, oh Joe tried to get me to go to a game now We're definitely gonna cover it. I'm trying to see what's close by Atlanta, but yeah Jumping out here. I think I think they got something. Do they got anything in Vegas? Do they got anything in a legion stadium? I Know they got something so fine Mmm That Concludes this episode of nightcap want to thank you guys for watching it I want to very thank our special guest for joining us also Y'all know who I am. I'm your favorite up. That's my partner and co-host the food gauging king former being Being a real fame artery a former pro bowler and at all pro He's Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson and the third member of the big three a seven-time NBA all-star from the Atlanta Hawks Little Rock Arkansas native that is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from Thank you guys. Thank you for your support and your continued support those looking to purchase a bottle of shame I look for to a head over to the portier cognac.com If it's unavailable, and Joe or city near you the best tasting premium VSO P cognac on the market Please please direct responsible and stay safe. I want to thank our very special guest. Oh first of all the nicks beat the beat the number beat the Celtics 112 to 106 thank to two dagger threes in the fourth quarter by Josh Hart He was the leading score scored 15 of his 26 in the fourth Jalen Brunson added 25 and 10 as they beat the Boston Celtics 112 to 106 and Kevin the ranch scores 29 is the Rockets beat the 76ers 113 to 102 But the sixes were missing Joel and B who had an emerging emergency Appendectomy due to an acute appendicitis. I am Very special guest join us tonight Ohio State defensive tackle Kaden McDonald 62 326 all-american projected the first round pick seems so excited full of personality man We wish him and his family all the best on that big night two weeks from the third day Again, thank you. Thank you guys for joining us. We greatly greatly appreciate that. I'm he's oh Joe He's ice. Oh, we're off tomorrow, but we'll see you Saturday. Thank you You