Best of NFL News Part 2: STUNNED Bears TRADING DJ Moore to Bills for Josh Allen MISSING SB LXI piece!, End of an ERA in Detroit after D-MO TRADED to Texans

This is the biggest night in podcasting. The countdown is on to our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards. Live from South by Southwest, March 16th, we'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative, talented creators in the industry. It's truly a who's who of the podcasting world. Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. And the winner of the iHeart Podcast Award is... See all the nominees now at iHeart.com slash podcast awards. Audible is a proud sponsor of the Audible Audio Pioneer Award. Explore the best selection of audiobooks, podcasts, and originals all in one easy app, Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. The Chicago Bears are trading DJ Moore to the Buffalo Bills along with a 2026 fifth round pick in exchange for a 2026 second round pick. According to Albert Breer, the Bills had sniffed around for A.J. Brown and Alec Fierce, so they weren't actively looking for a better receiver help. They wind up with D.J. Moore, who will be reunited with Joe Brady, his offensive coordinator in Carolina, in 2020 and 2021. The Bills had the ninth-fewest receiving yards by wide receivers in 2025 with 2,107 yards. DJ Moore ranked sixth among wide receivers in receptions, receiving yards and receiving first downs with 392 since being drafted in 2018. Ochoa? Yes, sir. You like it. You see Josh Allen. You see James Cook. You see DJ Moore. You see Khalil Shakir and Dalton Kincaid. Obviously, you know, Keon Coleman. Joe Brady said it's his job to make Keon Coleman great. Yeah. I like the move, huh? I like the move. Obviously, going with your offensive coordinator, you're familiar with the offense that you ran when you were in Carolina, and people need to understand some people don't like the move. Some people are upset. Oh, why would you let DJ Moore go? Hello? Did y'all see Luther Burden play last year? Thank you. You don't make moves like this until you're sure about someone else that's on a much, much, much smaller deal. For one, they want to get the money out of the book. You took Roman Duzay in the first round. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Listen, you took a Roman Doomsday in the first round, right? But Luther Burden has been out playing Rome. Rome has been playing good. He got a case of the drops a little bit. He got hurt too. He got nicked. He got hurt too. But he's going to be good. But Luther Burden, I mean, he showed promise. He showed extreme promise. And we've talked about it multiple times. And he's popped out on film every time he's played. Every time he's played. So I think it's a good move, especially for the Bears. it give Josh Allen another target, another reliable target at that. Yes. And DJ Moore, there's some things that he does really, really well. Great at contestant catches. He can go deep. He can catch shallows. He can catch the bubbles. He can catch underneath, intermediate routes and short. And he get jiggy with the ball. So you got your damn near Swiss Army knife when it comes to DJ Moore and him being able to do a multitude of things for you offensively. I like it. I like DJ Moore over there with Buffalo. I think it, I kind of piggyback what Ocho was saying. That reliable target that Josh Allen has been looking for, I think he has him one now. You know what I mean? So I'm pretty sure he's happy about that. Yeah, yeah. Ocho get the young fella right. Boy, hey, Buffalo might be back in business. Hey, boy. I can't wait to see them boys. I think I see them boys in April, too. Yeah. Yeah, man. Yeah. It's going to be interesting. They just, you know, hey, build on what you got. James Cook still keep running the football. And now you add another weapon with Shakur and Kincaid and Keon Coleman. DJ Moore steps right in. Let's see what they do. Because I don't know if the Patriots take a step back. The Patriots and the Ravens are the most likely potential trade partners for A.J. Brown per Jeff McClain. Philly is rumored to want at least a first for him. Ocho, where do you see A.J. Brown playing next year? Give me those two teams again. Patriots and the Ravens. I see him going to the Patriots. I think it's probably going to happen. He's going to go to the Patriots. Obviously, Stephon Diggs was released today, or maybe it was yesterday. I'm not sure exactly which day it was. But Mike Vrabel, very familiar with A.J. Brown. Very familiar with A.J. Brown. Absolutely. I think they're going to reunite again. It will give Drake May another reliable target. Yes. Stephon Digg coming off a great season. He's going to end up somewhere else, probably Baltimore, if I'm not mistaken, if my sources are correct. But A.J. Brown will probably be with the Patriots. Just know I said it first, and every time I've said anything about anybody going anywhere or anything sports-related, I've been right. Every single time. That's what we do at NICAP. We get it right. But Ocho, why was everybody so upset at us when we were saying this is going to happen? Man, y'all just trying, y'all just talking bad about Finland. Oh, yeah. He ain't going to get, I said, do y'all not see the writing on the wall? Yeah. I mean, but those are actually fans of the team. So fans of the team actually don't want said player to go anywhere despite the issues and the turmoil that's going on with their team. Don't you want to be told the truth though? Yeah. Yeah. No, them Philly fans. Them Philly fans. They don't want to hit that. But Philly fans don't play, boy. You're right. You're right. But you know what? I think it'll be beneficial for both parties. Yeah. I think AJ needs to change the scenery, and I think they need another place, another guy. And this was two years because even when they was winning the championship, he said he didn't get the fulfillment that he thought he was going to get. And last year was bad. Last year was bad. Who they going to replace him with, Uncle Ocho? If Philly give up A.J. Brown, who they going to replace him with? That's a good one right there. Because if I get a first for him, you know, there's normally depth at the receiver position. You know, you could normally go in there fishing and get you a DB or, or not, excuse me, a wide receiver or running back. Yeah, and it ain't going to be no A.J. Brown, though. No. It ain't going to be that. But you know what you can get? What's that? You can get some goddamn speed. Yes. You get you some speed, and hopefully that speed is able to develop into something nice. I just think the thing is that it puts a lot of pressure on your quarterback. It puts a lot of pressure on your offensive coordinator when I got to focus to try to get you the ball. Yeah. I understand. Man, for me, I think as an offensive coordinator, you try to get the guy the ball early. But, you know, teams know you want to get him the ball early. So what I'm going to do, Ocho, I'm going to roll the coverage. I'm going to take it away. Every time. And then I'm going to force you. And I know the longer it goes and he doesn't get the ball, boy, that plays into my hands. There you go. He says good frustrating. Yeah, that's all I need. I know Ocho woke the ball. hey I need you the first quarter first quarter to have don't you let Elcho touch this ball oh I'm a touching that hey double team for the class come to two Joe in the first quarter I'm a look on the sideline he gonna be over there like this hey mad as hell look at it look at it hey I hate I remember them days boy this is the biggest night in podcasting The countdown is on to our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards. Live from South by Southwest, March 16th, we'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative, talented creators in the industry. It's truly a who's who of the podcasting world. Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. And the winner of the iHeart Podcast Award is... See all the nominees now at iHeart.com slash podcast awards. audible is a proud sponsor of the audible audio pioneer award explore the best selection of audiobooks podcasts and originals all in one easy app audible there's more to imagine when you listen sign up for a free trial at audible.com i'm daniel jeremiah and i'm greg rosenthal and this is 40s and free agents the games may be over but the nfl never stops this is my favorite part of the calendar. Yeah, mine too, Greg. Free agency, the combine, the NFL draft, pro days, trades. This is where teams reshape their future. This is where Daniel Jeremiah makes his money. On 40s and free agents, we break down every move that actually matters. From my draft evaluations, mock drafts, and team fits. To my top 101 free agents and how real rosters are built, cap space, contracts, and all the tough decisions included. You got quarterbacks on the move. We got teams rebuilding. It's hope season. Absolutely, it's hope season. We'll tell you what's real, what's noise, and what it means for your favorite team. Smart analysis, real conversations every week. I don't know about the smart, but definitely analysis. Listen to 40s and Free Agents on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Dak Prescott spoke about George Pinkins and the Franchise Tag. Let's take a listen to what Dak had to say, guys. Uh-oh. Yeah, George, George loves football. That's the one thing about it. I just want him to know, don't change your love for football. Don't get in the business mind of this. You played last year on one year for not even that much, right? So if you can go 30, whatever it is now, I think it's the same thing I got. So, you know, when I'm frantic, I say, hey, go do it. At the end of the day, bet on yourself. He's a hell of a player. Hopefully we can get him long term and sign that. But if not, I think the way that he plays the game and the person that he is, it'll be just fine. Hey, look, look. I'm with Dak on this. I understand you and Ocho. Oh, man, pay the man his money. Make sure he get... That man gonna get his money. Okay, Ocho, he just gotta do it another year, man. Do it another year for him. Then we get in a long time. We'll guap you up. You know what I'm talking about? Make sure you straight. Well, come on, man. Come on. The difference is, Joe, is that a quarterback can get hurt and get his money. You see Daniel Jones coming off an Achilles, going to get his money. You see First Cousins, wide receiver or any other position, you coming off Achilles, you not getting no big money. You think a wide receiver can tear his Achilles and still get a top contract like Daniel Jones or like First Cousins? No, no, I know that ain't possible. I know that ain't possible. That's worst case scenario. that's why you want the long term money because of the worst case scenario I'm playing for the worst case scenario hey Joe listen Joe man I love you Joe I love Dallas fans too Dallas fans always been good to me they kind of been upset at me because I've been talking about the George Piggins situation and wanting him to leave it's not that I want him to leave Dallas fans I love you you know I adore y'all y'all been good to me and I've been good to you but I'm just understanding I want y'all to separate your love for the Dallas Cowboys because George Pickens is a part of it. I just want George Pickens to be able to get what's best for him. I understand. I understand. No, no, no, he not. Because I just heard Dax say, bet on yourself. Bet on yourself and do it one more year. I heard him sneak that in there. That's because Dax said he had to go through that. He understands. Yeah, but it's different because he also understands even if I got hurt, which he did when he dislocated his ankle, they still paid him his money anyway. But he's a quarterback now. He can do that. Yeah, thank you, Joe. I appreciate that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, Joe. Oh, what's my favorite word? Ta-da. Yeah, it is. Hey, Joe. Joe, let's say George Pickens play on that franchise tag, right? Yeah. 28, 29, 30 million, whatever it might be, right? Yeah. He go out there and he get hurt. Come on, man. Stop thinking. Listen, dude, let me finish. Let me finish. He get hurt. Joe, he don't have no security. He had no security. Now, what I'm hoping for Dallas Cowboys fans, because I'm a fan of y'all, because y'all are a fan of me, and I'm a fan of the star. I just don't like the way your owner operates sometimes, and you shouldn't either. Now, I'm hoping that they gave him the franchise tag to be able to work on a long-term deal. They got until July. I'm hoping. Yeah, we got until July. July 14th, to be exact, if I'm not mistaken. So, I'm hoping, Joe, I'm hoping that's the case, because I love the duo. I love having a dual threat. I love Dak having those two weapons in his arsenal. But one of the things y'all also do need is you need defense. Because now you got all this high power on offense, and you can't stop goddamn nobody. You can't stop a goddamn runny nose, Joe. Guess who they remind me of? Who? Ta-da! The baby. The damn baby. Shit. You talking all that, man? Nobody's right here on that. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Nobody's right here on that. Look. Hey, Joe, I'm talking good. I ain't being disrespectful. Ain't nobody trying to hear that. Look, man, look, we need fingers on this tag. We going to take care. Pingers going to get taken care of, Ocho. Okay, Ocho, we just got to come out and ball out. But, yeah, we do need to beef up our defense. We need, like Oc say, we need a hell raiser who can get out to that quarterback because, boy, look at here. We struggled this past year in that area, especially defensively. We got cooked. Joe, you been to a Cowboys game yet? No, I ain't been the one in a minute, Oc. Hey, you ain't no real fan, Joe. Cheer, cheer, cheer, Ocho. You ain't no real fan. You got to cheer. Bad Joe, who'd everybody? Yeah, ta-da, the bingo, Sam. Hey, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Listen, your owner, Jerry said he going to make a splash. Jerry said he going to spend money this offseason Well let see Which is something that the Cowboys don do Give him a chance Give him a chance He been game 30 years You got the man worried All he got is his word. He said he's going to spend some money this summer, man. Let's see what he do. Hey, Joe, I don't know if you've been around, but I don't know what rock you've been under, but his word ain't been good for a long time. Yeah, but Cowboys fans, I'm hoping y'all get what y'all looking for, man. You know, I'm here for y'all. I'm here for y'all. I'm just telling you my opinion in high field. I know your allegiance is to your team and the players that are on it. Therefore, you want said players there. But also, I think it's also selfish to not want him to maximize and get as much as he can, especially going out there and getting hurt on that franchise tag. Come on, man. Stop talking about the man getting hurt. You are killing me with this, man. I'm not kidding. Joe, I'm just being honest. Joe, you got to weigh all your odds. Ocho, let me ask you this. Hey, Joe, you got insurance? Yeah. Ta-da! Why you got insurance? See? Listen, man. Look, he going to be all right. He going to be all right. I want him to be all right. I want him to get, I want him to get, I want him to get, hold on, 5, 25. Hey, if he get $155 million, five years, $160 million, $100 million guaranteed, Ocho, I'm good. Damn, that's number one. He getting paid more than CD? Well, I got signed after CD. CD contract, two, three years old. This one brand new. Fresh off the press. Damn. Fresh off the press. All right, we're going to get you out of here on this one, guys. It's time for our final season. Hold on, wait, wait. Hold on. I'm going to ask something. I'm going to go back to basketball real quick. Hey, Joe. What's up? You played in Boston, right? Yeah. You know anybody there? How much courtside tickets in Boston cost? Ooh. Hey. It's not that expensive, huh? Yeah, yeah. That's one of the problems. Yeah, you talking about... What you think? Just give me a number. And please don't say it's like being at a goddamn liquor game. It probably going to run you about $25,000, $30,000 for a floor seat. Hey, you know what? Hang up the phone, Joe. Hang up the phone. I ain't telling no lie to you. Depending on what you go to. What game you trying to see? No, I mean, listen. My baby going back to Boston. She going back to Boston Saturday. I'm like, you know what? I'm going to come on down to Boston and since I don't know what to do down there, it ain't football season so what's the next best thing that I can do? Go to it. Maybe go to a Red Sox game. Shit, while I'm there, I might as well hit the goddamn Celtic game. Huh? They're in spring training and those not in spring training is getting ready for the baseball classic. Oh, my bad. Well, I ain't no one. But I'm saying what game you want to see, it all depends on what game you want to see. If you're trying to see a Lakers or you're trying to see somebody with better players or better teams, it's going to cost you. Oh. Well, I just want to go to a game. Whatever's coming up soon. Like, I'm talking about, you know. You on floor seats. Hey, Joe, I'm not going to no game where my feet ain't on the hardwood, Joe. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you're going to be. If it's two people, yeah, you're going to be looking to spend lead 30, 40K. Well, I tell you what, that's out the door. Now, Joe, are we still going to the game March 16th out there in Atlanta? Yeah, I got you. You know I got you. Okay. you sitting with me right our feet on the wood yeah I got you I know you if your feet are on the wood it ain't no good I like that I like that Joe Detroit has traded David Montgomery out of the Motor City the Lions agreed to trade the running back to the Houston Texans and the Lions will receive a Houston 4th round pick offensive lineman Juice Scruggs and a 7th round pick in exchange for Montgomery the move ends the three-year run in Detroit, where Montgomery started alongside Jameer Gibbs as part of arguably the league's best backfield duo, officially known as Sonic and Knuckles. Ocho, remember we had a conversation last night? Yeah, what else? Did D-Mo talk? Did y'all hear that from me? Well, hold on. What did I say? Chat, what did I say last night? Where would be the perfect place to go? I mean, looking at the landscape, you know what teams you can go to, He can take some of the pressure off of the quarterback, you know, so he don't have to drop back 100 times the goddamn game because you have a quality running back you can hand it off to. Someone that's decent. That boy's going to go over there and eat. Yeah, he can run through the tackles. He can run on the outside. He's decent catching the ball out the backfield as well. Hell, maybe Houston. That's the right call. And lo and behold, Joe, 24 hours later, he end up in Houston. That boy's going to eat over there. Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. This is the biggest night in podcasting. The countdown is on to our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards. Live from South by Southwest, March 16th, we'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative, talented creators in the industry. It's truly a who's who of the podcasting world. Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. And the winner of the iHeart Podcast Award is... See all the nominees now at iHeart.com slash podcast awards. audible is a proud sponsor of the audible audio pioneer award explore the best selection of audiobooks podcasts and originals all in one easy app audible there's more to imagine when you listen sign up for a free trial at audible.com i'm daniel jeremiah and i'm greg rosenthal and this is 40s and free agents the games may be over but the nfl never stops this is my favorite part of the calendar yeah mine too greg free agency, the combine, the NFL draft, pro days, trades. This is where teams reshape their future. This is where Daniel Jeremiah makes his money on 40s and free agents. We break down every move that actually matters. From my draft evaluations, mock drafts, and team fits. To my top 101 free agents and how real rosters are built, cap space, contracts, and all the tough decisions included. You got quarterbacks on the move. We got teams rebuilding. It's hope season. Yeah, absolutely. It's hope season. We'll tell you what's real, what's noise and what it means for your favorite team. Smart analysis, real conversations every week. I don't know about the smart, but definitely analysis. Listen to 40s and free agents on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Absolutely. They need it. They need it. Yeah, because I don't think. Ocho we talked about Mixon and that injury that didn't seem very positive that he was going to have an opportunity D'Amico didn't seem very positive about him being able to return this seemed like a pretty serious injury because I think he missed the entire season he did an NFL team reportedly told Fernando Mendoza to get arrested so he slides in the draft and they can draft him. Ocho, what was the craziest thing you were asked during a pre-jab process? Oh, that's a great question. Golly, that's a great question. It's a great question. It's one that I can't remember because I can't remember some of the questions I was asked that long ago. Oh, my God, that's 2,000. Goddamn, that's a great one. yeah i don't think even during my draft process i think the the craziest thing i might have been asked is why the hell did you bounce around to so many schools that's that's that's about it nothing nothing personal no one took any shots at me you know as far as for you know character issues or they thought it were character issues for me bouncing from school to school right but it wasn't really joe it wasn't really about me getting in trouble in just the fact that my grades were ridiculous. And obviously I had that one fight at Lancaster University where I got thrown out. But outside of that, it was nothing for, it was just school. I told them, I told all scouts, I told all GMs, like, listen, I just want to play football, man. I didn't want to go to class. I didn't want to go to school. That wasn't my focus. And I felt I was good enough. I could skate by, by being great at football and, you know, put school last. Right. I told the truth. the Chiefs informed right tackle Jawan Taylor that he will be released before the start of the NFL's new year barring a trade according to Adam Schefter the move will save the Chiefs 20 million dollars against the salary cap and allow them to be under the cap when the league's new year starts March 11th while Taylor was productive in pass blocking he struggled with penalties committing 49 penalties He committed 49, Ocho. 41 of them accepted in 45 games with the Chiefs. The most of any lineman during that time. No one is surprised by this move. We knew he was going to be a candidate to be released or a heavy restructured pay cut, reduced salary. So I don't think anybody is surprised by this move. No, not with the way he played, especially last year. I mean, that many penalties always costing your team. he put them in very bad situations consistently throughout the season so I know they're looking forward to probably drafting somebody I'm not sure if they're going to move somebody else to the right tackle position well I think they're going to move somebody because you remember Simmons that they took with the Ohio State kid who played really well and then he had some personal issues that he had to get resolved he's going to go to left tackle and they had a guy at left tackle when Simmons went out I think they're going to bump him to right tackle yeah but he was bad And so, you know, obviously Trey Smith, who's a perennial law pro, he'll be back at right guard. Creed Humphrey, who's one of the premier centers in all of football, he's back the man down the center. I don't know who they're going to have at left guard, but I think they, you know, they need a running back. They need a running back and they need some wide receivers. And the one thing, look, we do know if love is there, they're taking love. You just got to hope somebody don't zoom up past you. Don't get him. And take him, yeah. but yeah they they got some they got some issues and hopefully my home is on track to be able to go uh they might put him on the pup list uh he starts the season he missed the first four games of the season but we'll see how that plays out yeah i got an x i'm talking about the x from way i'm talking about way way way back you hear me yeah you to my twitter that's the only x i know twitter No, no, no, this back, no, this back. Oh, oh, oh, you talking about, you talking about, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. In 2000, from 2008, you know, I was out with Andre Johnson, right? And she had the nerve, you know, to come up to me and say, oh, I see you still the cheapest man in the world. Mm. You know what I told her? What'd you tell her? I ain't buying it. What you wanted a drink? Yeah. Nah. Man, stop playing with me, man. Get up out of my face, man. Like, come on, man. We talking about it's been, what, 10, 15 years? She thought things had changed. Yeah, ain't nothing changed. I'm still tight. E-park is still tight. You've never bought an ex a drink? No. I mean, once things, once that, eh. Once it's over, it's over. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, if I'm with you, I ain't really spending like that. So if you gone, you definitely ain't getting nothing. But I'm saying you would buy a drink. I mean, you go out with the lady and she'd say, I want a drink. If Cambodia said... Nah. So you ain't buying Cambodia no drink. Oh yeah, I mean, she can get the whole bar. But that's what I'm saying. No joke. We won. We's a union. But I ain't seen you in damn near 10 plus years. That's what I've said. I say you buy your girl if she was your lady you buy her a drink you just not buy it I don't play that to me that's lightweight disrespect but then are you still the cheapest man in the world yeah ain't nothing change yeah yeah Filthy McNasty for ISO what was your I'm here moment in the NBA what did you want to play who did you want to play with but never had a chance to. Do you believe D.C. will ever be a threat in the East? Much love to all. No. The last one, no. The Wizards are not going to be no threat. Go ahead. They're not going to be no threat, but to be honest with y'all, man, I got a chance to play with, I got a chance to play against pretty much all my idols that I grew up watching and admiring their games, whether it was Jordan, whether it was Penny. I played with Penny Hardaway for two years. Okay, yeah, Penny with Phoenix. Yeah, I I played with Tracy McGrady for a year. He came to Atlanta. He played with us here in Atlanta. You know, I mean, those guys were everything to me growing up. Them big, tall guards. Like, so just getting a chance to compete, getting a chance to get some wisdom from them. You know, I hung out with Penny when we played in Phoenix. He had a big old house in Scottsdale, Uncle Ocho, about $10 million. I'm talking about it's just him living in there. He had kids at the time, but they weren't living with him. That man lived in a $10 million house by himself, man. Damn. We used to invite – I had my partners who used to live with me. He used to invite us over to watch the games, eat. He had a chef the whole night. Man, I had a – my career was great, man. The NBA don't owe me nothing. You know what, Joe? Now that I think about it, I forgot Anthony Davis got traded to the Wizards also. So him and Trey might be able to do something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I forgot AD was in the Wizards. Well, well, now, you know, it just depends on what his mind, what AD mindset going to be like coming back. You know, hopefully through everything he's been through, you know, coming to Dallas, coming to camp overweight, you know, regulating that weight, getting his weight right, and coming into camp ready to play, man. Because I think Trey going to be ready. I think it's going to be up to AD and what he's capable of doing. But they got some great pieces, man. They got a chance to be special, you know, to have a quick turnaround, but it going to be depending on their key players Hey and Joe Yeah Y didn even get that last one You know that was a joke right What What a joke Yeah. My girlfriend said I'm the cheapest man in the world. What did I say? Shit, I ain't buying it. You don't get it? You said an X. same thing I ain't buying it I got one more good one not yet when we get towards that Jay 1984 out what was the hardest thing to remember in the NFL playbook and what was y'all favorite play to run I mean yours was verbiage huh yeah I mean for me it was pretty easy for me obviously in Cincinnati all those years we had the number system so the number system was pretty much easy and my favorite route the run it really didn't matter what was called um i prefer people play man-to-man they play press or sometimes double team because carson and i we'd we'd always check to check to a check to a seven route whether whether they were playing two man or whether they just playing cover two in general we i always had a way to beat that coverage uh obviously a man-to-man trying to think i mean the routes were so, I mean, the route combinations were so simple. I write I write 628. I write 525 528. It's so easy. So easy. It's easy if you've been doing this your whole life. Yes, because the thing is with the playbook is that they install, you go practice that and then you don't go back over what they install. You open the next day install. And then you on to the next day install. And then you on to the next day install. And then you alter the next day. So if you're behind, it's so hard for you to kick up. F it up. That was the hardest thing. Like, you know, you had been in the system. I mean, the plays that you had run in college, I run those plays because I had the same coach for four years. So I didn't have to ever learn a new system. And then you get there and everything. The hardest part was it was backwards. 2, 4, 6, 8 from the time you was this big was to the right. Yeah. Well, in Denver, 2, 4, 6, 8 was to the left, Ocho. 1, 3, 5, 7 was to the right so they say you know a 15 you going to the left, no you to the right since when is 15 an even number even to the right or to the left Shannon are you paying attention yeah I am, I know y'all effed up this triple x cop sanity every time iso is on it's welcome to nightcap feature uncle ocho and still see there you go hello that ain't what he said hey man can y'all stop acting like that i'm just i'm just saying they getting carried away with it man they eyes are not deceiving them they know what they seeing okay what y'all want the people I mean, that was two weeks ago, Joe. That was two weeks ago. That's all they got to go on for, Ojo. All right. All right. Terrence G, start, bench, trade, Bo Jackson, Earl Campbell, OJ Simpson. Damn. look we know what oj uh what oj was accused of and all that other stuff but the football player everybody wanted to if you grew up in the 70s and you played running back 32 you wanted to be yeah now i ain't telling what somebody i ain't telling what somebody told me i'm telling where Everybody wanted to be him, the Jews. And he was the first black, had major commercials. In movies. Movies. He had her. He had car commercials. He had the orange. It was him. I would start me. I'm starting OJ. I'm a bitch. Who am I? I don't want to get rid of Earl. You're going to have to because I know you ain't going to bench Bo. No, cut, cut Bo. Cut, cut Bo. Nah, you got to start bench, trade. Trade, cut, same thing. You going to trade Earl. You going to trade Earl? y'all don't see y'all too y'all remember Earl the Tyler Rose hold on Earl which Earl with the Oilers yes love you blue the 1977 Heisman Trophy winner he goes to Houston and he's a three time he's a three time offensive player of the year he already had They had Ken Burrows, double zero. I think they had Mike Renfro. I'm trying to think. Who was the damn tight end? They had a nice defense, too. They had Dr. Doom, Elvin Bethea, Curly Culp. I'm going to start OJ I'm going to trade Come on now Come on now Well it shouldn't even take this long It does First of all you only got two years of both In the NFL What the hell y'all talking about I mean we talking about both I mean we talking about both y'all better go back y'all better go back I done seen Earl I done seen Earl I done seen him in the powder blue oily jersey with the white helmet running through people's chest I remember jersey torn off still moving yeah yeah yeah but I'm it's tough nah I'm I'm a bench bow and I'm a trade Earl that's what there you go there you go but Juan Palafox 1997 Ocho what are your three favorite quotes by Unc that you've written down I don't got my pad in front of me now bring the pad on Wednesday Uncle Mike 1988 one time for the nightcap squad show held me up in some dark days which state has produced the best football players Texas Cali or Florida Florida and Texas gotta be Florida and Texas hey y'all be sleeping on Georgia now Georgia got they producing Texas and Florida wherever it's warm at wherever it's warm at if you want to look at the best players go where it's warm California got some dogs too yeah it's mad at 2215 all hail king iso hello shout out to Ocho for calling the trade destination for Debo yesterday fellas are y'all going to any world cup group matches Ocho you going I'm going as many as I can hit kitty fresh hey Ocho iso have y'all watched every day I've watched y'all every day I would like a shout out to my fiancee, Brish. She had successful surgery to get a defibrillator in her chest. Brish, I think it's Brishy. Brishy, your fiancee wants to tell you how proud he is of you and how thankful he is for you. And here at Nightcap, Ocho and I and the entire Nightcap family want to wish you a spready recovery. We know you're going to do just great. and congratulations on everything, guys. Look forward to seeing you guys walk down the aisle. Oh, yeah. I wrestle, I win. Ocho, act like a grandma when you on the phone when it's lighting with that nightcap sign. Hmm? Bobby's World, let's do a nightcap NCAA bracket. Winner gets something autographed from the big three. Ocho, what you thinking? What you thinking, Joe? Oh, yeah. Y'all gonna lose that one too. Don't do that, Joe. There you go, Joe. I'm just keeping it real. No, you're not keeping it real. Ocho gonna pick mascots because he ain't gonna know. Tim Bid say if math ain't math, it was a person would be me. Yeah, man, me and math, I don't know what it is, man. They start talking about the pie rule and you got five different ways you can solve a problem. Nah. Ooh-wee. Alan Fletcher Ocho enroll at FAMU and let me do your school work how much you charging I'm going to charge a few grand Ocho don't you want to do the own work I'm going to do it myself I don't really need no help they ain't going to be smarter than me no way Big Mike can you explain when Tyson fought Andrew Gulotta why he just walked out of the ring man he hit Andrew Gulotta so hard Andrew Gulotta he tried to get him to go back in there Gulotta said man I'm done with this y'all go in there and take them licks Tyson said well I'm done with this man that man ain't gonna fight let me go Rory underscore two N's thanks for the free entertainment and Cap-a-lot Ocho keeping the buck with all the money the Cowboys got in free agency. All the money the Cowboys got free. They're going to need all defensive players they can get. They need corner. They need a stud-ass middle backer. Somebody who can break having it. Hey Joe, I know that's your team. Right Joe? If you look at what Jerry Jones has always done every offseason, when does he ever spend in free agency? When does he ever make a big splash? He said this year going to be different. Joe, Jerry never spends a free agency. Jerry never makes a splash. He makes a splash with his own players, and he waits until the last minute to make that splash, but he's just never done it and going to acquire someone from the outside in free agency and brings them in that can make a huge difference. And this would be the year to do it. Now, he always says a lot of things that he's going to do, but he never fulfills them. he spent early. You know, he went and got T.O. You remember, Ocho, he gave her two first-rounders to get Joey Galloway. I think the thing is that he's kind of been burnt with some of the free agencies that he's got. It's not – it's who you get in free agency. Right. And so he's kind of missed, and it's kind of got him gunshot. So he's kind of hesitant right now, Ocho. But I'm going to take him at his word, Ocho. He said he's going to spin. He said he's going to spin, Ocho. I know who he's going to get then. If that's the case. Righteous K, though, Louisiana got some dogs, too, now. They do? They do. They do. Yeah. I mean, basically, it's Florida, Georgia, Texas, Cali, Louisiana. Then you probably go, what, Ohio? I would say that. Ohio normally have linemen. Yeah. the southern states normally have the speed guys wide receivers, running back yeah Texas the quarterbacks Cali the quarterbacks cause you know you got two guys you got Stroud and you got Bryce Young and you got Jayden Daniels yeah so Ocho, the Colts have given Anthony Richardson Sr. permission to seek a trade, his agent told ESPN. The former 2023 fourth overall pick has made 15 starts for the Colts, throwing 11 touchdowns, 13 interceptions, while battling a string of injuries, including a shoulder surgery, a fractional orbital bone, and vision issues following the procedure. The Colts are expected to move forward this year with Daniel Jones and 2025 draft pick Riley Leonard at 1-2. Ocho? Yeah. What do you think Anthony Richardson ends up? Oh, that's a good question. That's a good question. I mean, what teams are willing to develop Anthony Richardson and allow him to be a backup? I mean, that's the part I don't know. I'm sure there's someone, some team that might give him a chance. But that's tough. That's tough. You understand the quarterback position. It's a premium position. Yep. And it's very, very important. So I'm not sure. I mean, your guess is as good as mine. Who's willing to give him a chance? That's the only thing. And you might have to go be a backup for a couple of years. You know what I'm saying? Because we look at Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold left. He went to Carolina. That wasn't a great situation for him. Remember, Ocho. He went to San Fran before he went to Minnesota. Yeah. And he said it was there where he learned how to play the quarterback position. Yes. So now he goes to Minnesota, parlays that, plays really well, goes to the Pro Bowl, and boom. That wasn't enough to convince the Vikes to keep him. He goes to Seattle, and the next year he wins the Super Bowl. Damn man That messed up I think a lot of it going to be contingent on Ocho how much do I have to give up for Anthony Richardson I mean the best you can probably hope for is the fourth round pick you're not getting the first the top five pick and three years later you're getting up off and four years later you're getting up off and Ocho for third and fourth round pick he had the Colts right in the palm of his hand You know, I mean, he kind of forced their hand in a sense with some of the issues that were going on internally that we didn't know about. Obviously, I've heard about him and obviously his play on the field. And then Daniel Jones comes in and takes the team that we thought there were issues and look at look how things turn around. Oh, Joe, when you had the conversation, I said, this is going to be an issue. and everybody jumping on us, man, you old school. Man, let that man live. Let him breathe. I say, guys, you don't understand how locker room works. You can't do some of the things that he's doing. I'm not, look, I don't want to beat the young man up, but I'm just telling you the mindset. They paid this man a lot of money, and you think that you can be the last one in the building and the first one out. You think you can take yourself out of the game, and that's just going to be okay? See, I think you guys are looking at it from, You're not looking at it from a team perspective. You're not looking at it from a competitive perspective. Okay, you work a regular job, Ocho. You know, hey, I'm tired. I ain't going into work today. Or I'm going to leave work. You can't do that in the NFL. You can't. Yeah. Because you can, but they're going to get you up out of there. Yeah. They're going to get you up out of there. It's really that simple, Ocho. It's really that simple. Yeah. and the mere fact, Ocho, you a rookie and having a team meeting to have to talk to you? I've never, Ocho, I've never heard that before. You played a long time, I played a long time and we stayed around the game. I've never heard of a team having to have a meeting to talk to a rookie. Not at that position. And a quarterback? Not at that position, no. Absolutely not. That's the one position you shouldn't have to worry about. You shouldn't have to worry about. No. but you can't everybody can be replaced you just hope it comes later than sooner but they will they'll eat that money whatever they gave him 30 million guarantee they'll eat that and write it off absolutely we've seen them teams they take on 80 million 100 million dead cap they don't care they don't care They don't care. They don't. Hopefully he bounces back and gives an opportunity. Sometimes, Ocho, you have to go through something to really appreciate it. I think he really appreciates the game of football now. He dealt with some injuries, the shoulder injury. The freak accident with the band pops him in his eye and fractures his ombrolet. He has vision issues after that. I think his agent said everything division is healthy, it's healed now everything is good to go but maybe this is the wake up call that he needed I sure hope so I sure hope so, I think he got put in a bad situation, I thought he was a project coming out, watching him at Florida yeah, I understand all the measure with Ocho, you're talking about somebody 6'4", 6'5", 245 running 4'4", can throw the ball standing long jump, all of that. That's a great project. All that stuff does not equate to playing the quarterback position. Yeah, that's a great question. Who cares? Let me ask you a question. What are you going to be doing? Is Superman jumping over the top? Right. Now, if you got something like the tush push, where Jalen Hurts' 600-pound squat comes into effect, for the quarterback with a 40-inch vertical, what good is that going to do to be unless he had the one-yard line going over the top like Walter Payton? Right. You're right. Right. But listen, that was a good project to have based on the measurables. It was a great project to have. It just, I don't think they... I can't say they didn't give him time to develop because they did their due diligence. Let me ask you a question. Yeah. They still fixing it on your grandma's house. When you asked Chauncey that you put Chauncey up, you couldn't move right back in there, could you? Nah. Because it was a project. You see? He was a project and they tried to get him to play right away. Right. You didn't develop it. Mm-hmm. So now if you take time, possibly develop him the right way. You said he was a project. Everybody said he was a project. Yeah. They ain't got that kind of patience, though. Well, you should have left him alone. They don't have that kind of patience. We should have left him alone. Yeah. Ocho, I get a car. Ocho, this is a fixer-upper. What I look like trying to drive it when it put me down side of the road on the interstate and I'm mad, man, Ocho, this mofo put me down side of the road. Well, you said it was a fixer-upper. Yeah. So that means you got to take time to fix it up. He's a project. That means you got to invest time in him to get him up to par. But they can't invest time because the longer you wait, you understand what's coming up soon after that third year. I do. Boy, they ain't let Patrick Mahomes play his first year. He damn sure can wait. Yeah. You moved him up. It's hard for me to see a scenario, Ocho. Now, I don't know, and I forget who was in front of him, but it's hard for me to believe. Based on what he was when he actually got in the game, he had shown you enough in training camp and mini camps and OTAs that, yeah, this guy deserves to start right now. It's just hard for me to see that scenario. Mm-hmm. And so when I look at it like that, they didn't do him. They didn't do it any favors and he didn't do himself any favors. Yeah. You got it. That position, you got to know everything front was in backwards. Every position. Not only do you know what they're doing, you got to know what you're doing. You got to know what everybody on off. You got to know what the offensive line. Hey, look at me. You see, running back. Yeah, I'm going to be going real. But let me and Liz this. And let's throw hot. Let's throw hot at the guy coming in my face. not the guy that's going to drill me in the back. Not only do you got to know what pause. Not only do you got to know what you have to do. Not only do you have to know what the quarterback you have to do, what the entire offense you better know what that defense doing. Oh yeah, you got to. You better know what they doing Ocho. You got to. But I just hope the young man I hope the young man finds a home. somebody have some patience and and he develops somebody develops him but see the problem is Ocho is that if I trade for him I gotta take the contract yeah I like him I ain't in love with him I like him I mean man I like this outfit if it was $500 cheaper. I'd like the quarterback, Ocho, if I could get him at minimum. Mm-hmm. So, but I think the first five, the contracts are guaranteed. Yeah. Yep, it is what it is. I wish him the best, though. I hope he finds somewhere where he can develop. And what he has to do is is he has to make football his number one priority. I don't think football was his number one priority. It wasn't. From what I'm hearing, it wasn't. He has his other passions, and he's putting those other passions before the game of football. Not when you young coming in. Get you about 10 years in the league. Yeah. Then. Tom, if you go back and look at most of these guys, they didn't really do nothing until they were really, really established. Right. You got to win something first, bro. You can't be trying to get in all the commercials and you ain't won nothing. Right. I get it. You know, everybody, oh, man, you man got to have something. You got to do something. You can't be football 24-7. Well, if you play that position and you want to be good at it, it better be. And everything else will take care of itself after that. There you go. The NFL Network cameras captured Aaron Glenn, the Jets' head coach, after 3-14 rookie season, appearing to nap as prospects like Texas Tech David Bailey ran the 40-yard dashes. This obviously went viral. Ocho, is this a big deal or no? They're going to make it a big deal. Huh? They're going to make it a big deal. Yeah, I mean, they're going to make it a big deal. I mean, Mr. Glenn was obviously sleepy. try to, you know, try to, I don't call them naps. I call it a quick little blink. He took an extended blink. I don't think it's a big deal. Obviously, it's not just you there as a head coach. Obviously, we have a team of people there to let you know if there's anything that you might miss. You're doing your homework. You have scouts. That's what the damn scouts are for. I mean, yeah, you have everybody you need to there. So I'm sure people will make it a big deal because you are the head coach. Honestly, it's really not, man. Get your little nap in, whatever it may be. It's a long day. You've had a long day. People don't know what goes in and entails in being a head coach and all the hours that they put in, especially around draft time. Oh, you up early? Long time. Because you probably got your meeting with your staff before you head over there. So they probably up at the crack of dawn. They got meetings with players. You know, you get your players that you want to talk to, okay, have a conversation with them. for the most part they're not going to be like time because you know you have meetings obviously time's going to come off the board the Giants call time in there time's sitting down he's looking around he's like hold on where y'all pick? he's like nah I ain't going to even be there what pick did time go? pride went five okay well hold on Well, who the hell went in front of them? Troy Aikman. Okay. Tony Mandarich, Barry Sanders, Derek Thomas, Prime. Okay, understandable. Understandable. Understandable. Because they got four of the first five in the hall. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Tony Mandarich. Ooh. What happened? Oh, Broderick Thomas? Yes. Can you name the guys that went after Prime? Hold on. Where did they go? I know what Broderick was. He went to Tampa. Steelers. Steelers. Who went to the Steelers? What year was that draft? 89. God damn. Okay, give me the next thing. I'll come back. The Chargers. Bert Grossman. Oh, no, no, no. Rich was came out my draft. Reb came out my draft. The Dolphins. Not sweet Lou Oliver, did he? Oh, Sammy. Florida State. You remember Sammy Smith? I played with Sammy. We ended up swapping, trading Bobby Humphrey for Sammy Smith. Sammy didn't want to do nothing. I'm going to play to him. Oh, I ate. Who else? I ate an 89 draft. Went to Cleveland. Tim Worley. Yeah, the Steelers. Okay. They took Tim Worley and Lars Tate. Where did Lars Tate go? Did Lars Tate go to Tampa? because all of them was in the same backfield. Tim Worley, Lars Tate, Rodney Hampton. Hampton came out in my draft and went to the Giants. Hey, it's some good people. Lars Tate. Lars. L-A-R-S, Lars. Hey, it's some good picks in this first round. I ain't seen some of these names in a minute. Where did Lars Tate go? Where'd he go? He had to be in that draft. He wasn't in my draft. he was in 88 he came out my brother then wow I didn't know that it's Lars I was like damn David Bailey he put on a show too Ocho from Texas Tech yeah yeah he put a show on today but look anytime you're a coach, they're going to make a big deal out of it. So you just have to be mindful. The camera's looking to catch everything. They're looking to catch everything, bro. So you just gotta be mindful. You gotta be mindful. This is the biggest night in podcasting. The countdown is on to our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards. Live from South by Southwest, March 16th, We'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative, talented creators in the industry. It's truly a who's who of the podcasting world. Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. And the winner of the iHeart Podcast Award is... See all the nominees now at iHeart.com slash podcast awards. Audible is a proud sponsor of the Audible Audio Pioneer Award. 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