"Preparing For First Contact" with Sylvain Rochon

And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. Welcome to The Politics Prepping and Paranormal Podcast. Flibbity-jibbity-nonsense. I thought it was terrific. It's not just big, it's you! Welcome to the Politics Prepping and Paranormal Podcast. I'm Jeff Morian. I'm your host. This week, I have a special guest who is part of a very special mission. Joining me, his name is Professor Sylvain Roshan, and he is a public speaker, best-selling author, futurist, entrepreneur, expert in AI, and a visionary. I recently learned about his work with the AEDC, which stands for the Alliance for Extraterrestrial Diplomatic Contact, where he is one of the founders and a spokesperson. The Alliance for Extraterrestrial Diplomatic Contact is an international network of diplomats, politicians, government officials, experts in extraterrestrial affairs, and interested people with the shared goal of welcoming extraterrestrial civilizations to establish diplomatic missions on our planet. He's had a fascinating career and is doing some remarkable work, and I'm excited to talk to him. The Alliance for Extraterrestrial Diplomatic Contact is a non-profit international network of organizations and professionals who support projects leading up to the formal welcoming on earth and diplomatic contacts with extraterrestrial civilizations. As soon as our humanity and the political leaders governing our world will be ready to do this officially in an internationally recognized embassy. We believe there are many advanced civilizations neighboring our galaxy and one in particular has been observing and preparing us for a long time for an eventual encounter. They are simply waiting for us to become more supportive of a peaceful and open contact. Building an embassy with the support of the United Nations would show extraterrestrial civilizations that we are ready to become an integral part of a greater galactic community and to embrace the science, technology and wisdom of more advanced civilizations. Alliance members would benefit from the progress of this project on all levels. And if they wish, they could also be involved in the planning and construction of a scientific, touristic and economic center built next to the very first embassy for extraterrestrial diplomatic contact. Join the Alliance Network and help make the Extraterrestrial Embassy Project a reality. Be part of the most important event in human history. Contact us at our website, www.alliance4et.org. So at this time, I want to welcome Professor Sylvain Roshan to the show. Welcome, Professor. Thank you so much for inviting me, Jeff. Before we talk all about the AEDC, is it okay if I use the acronym for that instead of saying the whole word out every time? Yeah, it's a mouthful, so yeah. I figured that'd be easier for people to follow along with. Would you please tell us a little about you and a little about your background? Well, I started off in science, so I have multiple university degrees. I started off in biochemistry and I also did a chemical engineering degree at the university. University of Ottawa, for those interested, that's where I'm from, Ottawa, Canada. And then I did an education degree. And my first career was just like high school teacher, really, after that. That's what I was doing. but uh since i'm out of but since i was a teenager or even before that i was fascinated about the universe and how everything kind of came together what makes sense the mysteries like i was really into the paranormal for example because those were just mysterious things that didn't seem to have an explanation just bothered me it's like you know ghosts and ets and like anything i could put my hands on that no one seemed to want to touch because it was just unexplained so i got into eric von daniken i got into all sorts of people that are just legitimately trying to put an explanation on things on the pyramids all these stuff that you that's your thing about i was into that um not because i was part i was mystical about them but because it i was trying to make sense of the world like where do these things fit like in you know are they real are they not like is it our imagination that kind of thinking right so uh after a bit of time i met a an individual and a group of people through my father actually we brought a brought home a book that was called um uh those who came from the sky or what was that what was it the title changed a couple of times I think in this book but it was a um oh at the time it was the book that told truth I think was it was the the operational title now it has a slightly different title um but anyway it's uh it was a book written by what we call now an experiencer so somebody that had contact with an ET uh in France his name at the time was Claude Vaurion the Frenchman and he had a over seven days he met an et that called himself yahweh but same as in the in the bible he says well that is me said 25 000 years ago or uh and change he came to earth he created life on earth and we sent messengers and guided humanity early on and then uh eventually like we'll come back at the age of apocalypse which means revelation from greek not the end of the world, like some people think, right? And revelation, meaning like being an age of understanding, like be able to, things can be revealed, like what are, what is our past? And that really appealed to me because it, it, uh, it was a book that put some amount of answers into what I was seeking, not, not like on the ghost pieces so much, but on the ET and where do we come from, that kind of thing. And so I got into that. And one of the things, he, this man who ended up calling himself Rael while he was giving that, that name, actually, he was given two missions. One was, well, tell people about, but what I told you, so the creation of life and our contact with your ancient ancestors and so on and so on. But also create, start creating an embassy for ETs, because when we come back, we want to avoid conflict between human nations. We want to follow the human rules of first contact. So he agreed to that mission. This is 1973 and 1974. So I read this. It was the mid to late 80s in my case. So I latched onto that because that explained a lot of things. And as a scientific-minded person, it made sense, connected with a lot of dots. It's not proof of anything, but it explained a lot. So fast forward to today, I was involved with the ETMBC project within the organization that came out of that, called the Raelian Movement, at a distance, not really closely. And then in 2020, so not that long ago, I had a feeling that things had changed on the earth about how people perceived extraterrestrials. So I'm giving you more than my background. I realize this. I'm giving you more of the history. This is what people want to hear about. so all right and the feeling was well you know you can talk about ets on the kitchen around the kitchen table now and people don't really blink like it was not ridiculed it was more like asking questions about it the winds had changed on that topic of uap and so and you know the disclosure movements got started really strong at that time like people were talking about it so i had a thoughts like wait you know within the aurelian movement which is a philosophical group that emerged out of a contact over many years raised a bunch of funds for the etmbc but it was a project that was handled by a philosophy or a group of activists really because the aurelian movement is is kind of an activist group about about multiple things including uh including those two missions but a lot more things than that so i contacted the person in that organization daniel took cut about this it's like well look then it's like things are changing now and this is a project that belongs to humanity it doesn't like it has to be organized by humanity not a philosophical group that has a bunch of other missions in the other context it has to be like focused on that because the embassy has to be built and we have an organization that has to we need to create an organization that has that it's going to guide it to its goal without all the other attachments of other messages and and uh other missions and activist groups and all that stuff so so he agreed we contacted rael because he's still alive he's still with us he's like what do you think he said like go for it so it's like okay we got the blessing of the person that got the embassy project started uh which allowed us to bring them in as partners to access the funds they rose uh the the sensitivity that was that was brought into the market like so we we brought that in and created the alliance for extraterrestrial diplomatic contact as a collection of organizations individuals and scientists that want to see this done that wants to see the embassy agnostic to everything just every big tent everybody come in bring what you uh what you got what you built over over the years your resources whatever we we're getting this done right now after uh officially we registered in canada in 2001 as a not-for-profit it's a completely volunteer-based organization through the collection the the collectivity of all the organizations which is now i think it's 36 organizations representing about 2.2 million people in total. We have plans. We have videos. We have $50 million raised to get the project started as an offering to a nation that wants to get this done. In 2000, early on, packages professionally done were sent to all the nations. We got half a dozen nations are interested in providing land, because it has to be official land under the Vienna Convention, like it was called extraterritorial land under that, to make an official embassy, not just a building in a field somewhere. And one of them, a couple of months ago, one of those nations signed a memorandum of collaboration with us and the Relian movement combined to discuss moving forward with this. Are you at liberty to decide which one it was? No, I know very few of the nations that we are contacting. This is Daniel's department. He's the president and I'm the VP. I'm responsible for the development of the network and growth of the awareness. Daniel is doing all the diplomatic discussions. And all the discussions are under strict confidentiality. So unless I was involved in some way, I don't know which nations he's talking to. There's only like three people that know. And this is on the request of the nation states. They don't want a leak to occur from our side. So they insist on that level of conventionality. I guess there's still a lot needs to take place in the meantime before you would disclose that type of thing to the world anyway, right? Yeah, and it's the agreement we have with all of them is that we're not the ones that will make the first reveal. That's a requirement from them. Like they want to control when the new information come how and where. so and ultimately it has to be this way because when a nation wants to establish an embassy from any nation or under the vienna convention they have to declare to the world not in secret they have to declare to the world we have a new like it's public knowledge like we're making an embassy for so-and-so nation on our land it's official so that everybody can recognize that an embassy right so it can't be done in secret so uh so that's the process for them it's like look like you can say anything we declare it in the media when we ready so that the uh if they choose to to do it and they any nation can do that at any moment in time And as soon as something like that is declared other nations typically just accept it as an official embassy because that's how these embassies are structured. This one is a bit odd in a way because typically the host nation gives land to another nation and it becomes the other nation's land, right? And building. In this case, it's not a human nation. It's a civilization from elsewhere. So it's a bit different. I'm sure there's going to be some questions from other nations about how to interpret that, which is why the optional protocol process, if you've read about it on our website, is part of a way to kind of adapt to the slightly different situation where the embassy would be in. And I can always talk about what the optional protocol is. It's a bit technical. I mean, I guess the bottom line is the Vienna Convention would basically have to be completely amended at this point, wouldn't it, so to speak? Well, that would be the ideal situation. However, to amend the Vienna Convention, you would have to have the agreement of all the signatory nations. And when they wrote the Vienna Convention in, I think it's 69, they thought of this. Like, okay, this is going to be very impractical to amend the convention as a whole. So they established an optional protocol process. so that you can attach, and this is, there has been two that were two protocols. Basically, these are not amendments, but additional components that nations can choose to sign off on or not, to ratify or not. So it gets attached, but it's optional. Nations don't have to agree to the optionals if they don't agree to it. And the Vienna Convention as a whole, the way it was written, remains intact. That's the mechanism. Right. So that's why it would be an optional protocol to say that says basically and we have on our site, we have a downloadable version. Like that's a suggestion for us because the nation state would have discussed it in a convention and, you know, write something different. Probably we have a model, but it basically adapts the language to the convention to an extraterrestrial civilization. and so it's not that long but it's there's there needs to be a different language because we're the situation is a bit different but applying the same diplomatic immunity and protections of diplomat that come from outer space to what we currently have our ambassadors here on earth in our nations so that's really the purpose of that look before i go any further i'm going to ask you this because this is what a lot of lay persons and a lot of non-believers are going to say so i just I just want to get your take on this. I think there's no question that you and I believe in the existence of extraterrestrial life, but technically it has not been proven that there is indeed life beyond our planet and our solar system. So I'm sure you get asked this all the time. Why spend so much time, so much money, so much effort to facilitate something when we still have not yet technically confirmed the existence of extraterrestrial life? yeah it comes up a lot and for good reason like i said i'm a scientist i i don't have more proof than than the listeners do i really don't so it's a leap of faith on the problem side of a scientist what i have a strong feeling about this like i said like this was something that was like in my gut since i'm a kid right like like trying to understand how all these things fit together so i have a strong feeling that extraterrestrials were involved in our past they are still involved in some ways now but it's a belief it's a it's a hypothesis and a scientific framework like i'm emitting this hypothesis and i'm doing all this effort to see whether or not i'm right which is a it's a leap of faith and it does apply to sciences like you gotta like you got to do something and then okay well let's build an embassy let's build a framework well let's prepare everybody and let's see what happens that's an experiment to me right but i have a strong feeling that this is this is going to happen and that we are visited and so on because others that i've learned to trust including rael and a bunch of others like over the years have had or continue to have contact with ets on a personal level and you know you always have to put your question marks like okay is this person sane is this person hallucinating is this person seeing things that are not there you know you gotta ask those questions right i think we're past that point aren't we i mean there's enough experiences and enough people in this world that you can't just rule everything out there's too much evidence there's too many experiencers i mean here in the united states i know you're in indochina But here in the United States, I don't really know. I need to explore a little bit more about the world. But I feel like we're moving towards some kind of disclosure event. Like they're throwing us breadcrumbs. I talk about it all the time on this show. It's one of my biggest topics of interest. It's one of the biggest things that I cover. Some of our elected officials, we have multiple congressmen and women. We're having UAP hearings constantly in Congress. We're getting a lot of breadcrumbs thrown our way. Of course, Steven Spielberg is releasing a film this year. Age of Disclosure was released last year. So, I mean, it feels like they're leading us into something. So what's your thoughts on that for the remainder of the world, I guess, per se, not outside, because I only know what goes on in the United States. I can't tell you as a U.S. citizen, and I've talked to some of our elected officials. I can't tell you what's going on in the rest of the world. What do you view as the rest of the world? Well, it's good because I do have contact with the rest of the world. because the alliance is international. And as a Canadian, my perspective was Canada-US for a long time, right? Pre-internet, mostly. You know, you get access to what you got here. Now I'm in China and the network is really international. I can tell you three stories that kind of like summarizes what's happening in the world. One is the American story. which the one that you know, and most of your listeners probably already know, Disclosure, Roswell, all the gems, right? And it seems to me that there's a lot, there has been a lot of contact for a long time in the U.S., North America in general, and possibly some with the governments in the past. The military certainly has really good investigative capabilities and sensors on UAPs. I would be as confident as saying there's registered proof of unidentified flying objects that are non-human. And I think that's some of the statements from some of the professionals are saying that way. This is not human technology. It can't be. and we can't explain these away. I forget the name of the report. It was a report that was released as part of disclosure a few years ago. This was from IRO. I think it was like 104 investigations on UAPs from the Air Force and whatnot that are still unexplained. They still don't know what those are. That's a lot of unexplained, especially since we have radar, video. You got a lot of material that can be poured over and experts were put into it. So that's the American perspective. And I think there's a lot of proof there. If you go south into Latin America, that's the second story, I guess, to paint a picture. Everybody from elected officials to common folk around the dining tables, they talk about UAPs and UFOs like it was cows and cats in the field. Because they see them all the time. Everyone does in Latin America. It's just a fact. But just seeing something strange in a spy doesn't prove that this is aliens and stuff like that. So they still have, you know, there was a crash. Wasn't it in Brazil, I think, a number of years ago? And it was like they saw ETs on the street. Some people discovered them. They have stories like that, too, that are more like close encounter from a closer kind. also. And there's more and more of these stories that are happening all the time. And I feel like a lot of them are being, I don't know, they're being covered up. You don't hear about a lot of them in the mainstream, but we get little tidbits of them. I've heard a lot of these stories you're talking about. I think I know the Brazilian one you're talking about in particular. Yeah, because it was also back in the news recently, right? That particular story. But The point is in South America is that they have big UFOs, clearly in the sky, overpopulated cities in daylight. Like, it's not like a small speck that flies around. Like, the stationary objects, they take videos and pictures of them. Like, it's, for some reason, that happens there, but you don't see that. Like, have we seen, like, a large two-kilometer-wide UFO over New York City? No, that hasn't happened. That would be reported by like 10 million people, right? Phoenix Lights. Yeah, but there are some, but they're more, they're sneakier, it seems, in the US, less obvious. In Mexico, it's like, I had a friend of mine, which was funny because he was organizing a conference. This was in Lima. This is Peru. A conference about extraterrestrials and the embassy and that kind of thing. this was many years ago, maybe 10 years ago, there was a reporting of a UFO just like that, broad daylight over that particular city during that day of the conference. And it was in the news, clearly, like videos, like these are Peruvians, they're just like, yeah, okay, here's another one. And my friend, he's from that city, he came out of the conference center, he looked up, he's like, there it is. and it was on the same day that it was giving the conference. This is Latin America. This is stuff that happens there, right? Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Peru per capita have the highest amount of UAP sightings in the entire world? I don't know the statistics, but there's a lot going on in South America and it's increasing, yeah. And because they're so obvious, it's really hard to disprove them because, I mean, this is not a plane. You know, you can, this is not a balloon. You can, with your own eyes, you can clearly see these things, right? Well, I think for context, too, you got to think, because the prevailing theory, I feel like, is people just write this off as military tech a lot of the time. Sure. When they see something that's unexplained, and I think what people need to understand, too, is this is Latin America. So I'm not disrespecting those countries in any way, shape, or form, but their technology isn't approaching what the United States or China or even Russia's technology is. These countries do not have – we know for a fact these countries do not have this kind of technology. So I mean I think that's something you have to take into account when you're seeing them in some of these third-world countries. And yes, I guess it could be a United States, some kind of U.S. tech that's down there, but why would it be there? You know, we have our own testing grounds. We have our own areas. That's just my two cents is, you know, to add a little bit of context and perspective for some of these sightings down there in particular. Absolutely. And each one of us has to be a bit of an investigator. You see something unexplained. The default should not be, this must be an ET driving it. Most of the time, especially if it's like a distant, fuzzy, whatever, it's probably not what you're thinking. It's probably something explainable. It's a satellite. It's a reflection. There's a bunch of things. so you got to go through the process okay what could it be eliminate those possibilities and if you end up with something you still don't know that it remains unexplained then yeah okay it could be like an extraterrestrial drone could be like different things but usually it's something else just because people are not trained to really look and some people are they wish it's et So they go to that first. But there's plenty of observations that are really clearly non-human. So there are many of them. It's just there's an abundance. The third story is the rest of the world. I'm putting them all in one bucket. There's variations by nation and by continent. But generally speaking, there's way less discussion in the rest of the world about ETs and UAPs. And there are less apparitions, let's say, of all kinds. There are some, and some good ones. But the volume is much, much lower. And in some nations, because of that, in some nations, it's just not part of the conversation at all. Because it's not part of their lives. There's no need for disclosure because there's no landing or any kind of stories about that. It just you know let talk about something else right So the rest of the world is kind of like compared to the americas generally speaking they they sleeping they not really talking about it there a few nations like japan where it's really hot there's some exceptions but not for particular reasons that i'm aware of so that's the picture of the world so it gives you a sense that you know disclosures really like strong strongly happening in the states particularly in Latin America, it's day-to-day life stuff. And these are the exceptions, but that demonstrates the existence of them anyway. Just because they're not active as much elsewhere doesn't mean that they don't exist at all. They just appear more in the Americas. Let's talk a little bit more about the ADC. You brought up that you have received $50 million. Is that what you said in funding so far? Right, that's what's accessible to us, yeah. Can you talk a little bit about, are you able to disclose a little bit about where that came from? You know, just the sources and the revenues that you go about your funding. I'm sure that's what a lot of people would have an interest in that. Yeah, an important point. It's also the nations that contact us, they want to know where that comes from too. They want to know if it's real. Right? Well, that was a fund that was started in 1974. so it's not something we raise by you know some billionaire like last year it's from donations to the Raelian movement by people that believed Rael at the time in the special fund just for the construction of the embassy back in 1974 because he had this mission he set up a bank account at the time and then people just started donating specifically for that and that's been growing and reinvested and all that stuff since then, it's still an amount that's controlled by the rallying movement. But they've partnered with us, the alliance, for the, we adopted the same mission as them, but it brought it to everybody, right? So now they're contributing or they're pledging, let's say, their bank account with their purpose for our success in the embassy, as well as their support and things like that. So any organization that joins the Alliance is bringing something to the table. That's one of the things they've accumulated for years and years and years. This is about 30, about 50 years, right? Growing in amount from donations. The Alliance itself would like to have its own fund and we'd like to get that started. but most of what we raise is also donation based and it's for operations that we use the money because $50 million from that partner is enough for a developer project like this. If people out there that are in real estate or doing big projects, especially if it's buildings and land, you don't need to have all the amount for everything. you just need seed money right 50 million dollars is not enough to build an embassy and every uh everything all the infrastructure that's supposed to be around it and all that stuff no you you have seed money to get to get things started get people interested you got developers that come in and and build on it so that that's the amount we have actually that's where it came from uh we are still raising from donations and the alliance is likely to have to start its own separate fund for the ABC so that we control a little bit of that. So if anybody out there is interested in getting it, kicking that off, we have plans to get that started too. Yeah. So money still rules, right? You still need it. And it's in our discussions, like they always ask, like, do you have funds to kick this off nations? And do you have, like, how many people also want to, are interested, would they come to see the embassy? They want this to create jobs in their own nations. So they want it to be like a Roswell or a Giza pyramid situation where people come because they want to participate in the vision. Well, let's talk a little bit about the embassy or the proposed embassy, I guess I should say. Can you talk about, I guess, a lot of the questions people are going to ask, number one, the size, the scale, the design, how many people is it going to hold? I mean, I guess theoretically here, we don't, you know, we've never made technical contact with any extraterrestrial. So we could have 10 different species that have 10 different types of atmospheres. So you could be talking about, you know, 10 different meeting rooms per se, I guess, where you'd have to have 10 different atmospheres or something like that. Just talk a little bit about what kind of the thought process is here and the actual design and construction. You see the model in your background behind you. Can you talk a little bit about what some of the scientists and the experts have put into this and what moving forward they think they're going to end up with more design? Yeah, we're making some assumptions here. And we're also basing ourselves on, in the case of this embassy, the architects worked on that in 1990. And they got, that work, they got started. And that was off the story and the direction from Rael. So this was all designed for the ETs he met, which were, they look, in his case, they look, they're the size of our like a teenager, or a child, like a 12-year-old child, human, humanoid. Is this the prototypical gray aliens that we usually hear about? Kind of, not really, because they look really, like, The greys look more like clones. They don't look like they're complete. They may be biological drones that are sent. No, they are the same size. The eyes are a little bit larger in almond shape. The head is slightly bigger, but their skin is more like olive green, not gray. And they look a lot more, like aside from the slight difference with the eyes, they look like a child to us. So they're very, very much more human looking. And so the embassy was created for human sized people. So as far as size is concerned, there is a lobby, basically. There is a conference room. And then there's a merlock. and then leading into the donut, which we call the donut, like in the shape, which is a living area that has, I keep confusing numbers, I think it has 12 units in it. All right. So people have, you know, they can come and land and they're in an airlocked area where they can inject whatever atmosphere they prefer, you know, like a sealed. And then there's another airlock in the back and there's another room that is multipurpose. So you have like three rooms outside of the donut. You have three rooms for purposes. And then you have the living area where they can land and access the living area. So it's just an airlock. The high technology there is just the airlock because the assumption here is that they won't be giants. and it won't be like tiny cat-sized critters either like they were going to be human-ish size so all the clear ways are of design so that it can accommodate this uh doors and whatnot uh since we don't know the atmospheres we don't we're not sure who's going to come exactly we're just creating the infrastructure so that they can they can put the atmosphere they want that's it the other assumption this is more like mine uh when i'm thinking about this like we there are likely not just one extraterrestrial civilization that's that's looking that's watching us uh from all the accounts that we've that i'm reading about that i'm talking with they're most of them are humanoid uh they kind of look like us some of them are a bit different and so on but they're there many kinds and they come from different worlds so we don't know what's going to happen on the point of contact or first contact or who's going to come exactly. Some different organizations have different ideas of who would come first, that kind of thing. For us, as far as our project's concerned, it's like first come, first serve. Right. It's like just any one of them come, we'll be happy. They're going to be able to adapt to it. But what's most interesting, I think, in our conversations is that the embassy is not really for them. It's built to accommodate an ET civilization, but it's for us. Let me explain this. We're following the Vienna Convention to get this embassy built instead of having just, like I said, a building in some field somewhere. We were offered dozens of times. You know, a land built here, even from Aboriginal nations, offered us, because they have close ties with ETs in North America, South America, in Australia, Puerto Rico. We've had offers from a lot, but they can't give extraterritoriality under the Vienna Convention. And we need that because we need this to be a safe place for us. The Vienna Convention has rules that says diplomats are safe when they go there. This is a place of diplomacy that we all agree on. All the nations of the earth, we agree this is where people are going to meet for diplomatic contact, diplomatic missions. But what the fear is, even among scientists in a situation of first contact, is that let's imagine there's no embassy and an ET arrives and says, you know, take me to your leader like that. right stereotypical hollywood yeah it's like okay i'm landing in in front of the white house or i'm landing in a field somewhere it's like okay we're here everybody knows it's very color it's obvious take them through your leader okay how much funting would there be between nations when this happens it's not like the movies right like if it happens in russia or the u.s i'm gonna like and China are going to come and they're going to say, look, no, we want to access. The Russians are going to say, no, it's ours, but it's on our territory. You know, it's going to be all this mess that could trigger massive destruction among ourselves. ETs are going to still going to, they're going to fly away. It's like, look, man, like, this is not my problem. And we're going to destroy each other, right? If we do this right under the Vienna Convention, there's prep time. There's a declaration that the embassy is going to be built for this purpose. People are going to have time to think about this. And they're going to talk with each nation. What does it mean? Like, should I have my own embassy? Because any country can just build an embassy. Like, they can just settle down and build an embassy and say, well, this is also for ET. I want to have dibs. That's fine. It's great. We don't need only one embassy. Like, most nations have an embassy for all other nations. Yeah, build more than one. We just want to build the first ones. We're fine. Right. But it's the ambassadors that come have diplomatic immunity. And every nation agrees this is embassy for ETs. We all know we all agreed it was public. Prior to a visitation, unofficial one, there's this discussion that happens saying this is what's going to happen. These are the rules for embassies. We know them. We've been using them since 1960 something. Right. that's what really needs to happen that whole process pre-meeting doesn't need to have to be long but we build the embassy it's declared we get used to it nations position themselves in the eventuality that something is going to happen they're going to discuss access all that stuff ahead of time at least a little bit and then when it happens at the embassy nobody's surprised and everybody knows the rules. That's protection for us. These ETs that are coming, they were likely able to cross the distance between the stars within a reasonable amount of time thousands of years ago. They have technology that we don't understand, that we don't know. They don't need an embassy to contact us. They probably don't even need to come to Earth to contact us in our own brains. They can probably send messages to 8 billion people at the same time and say, hello, this is who we are. I'm just creating a TV in your mind and talking to you right now. They can do that. They have technology to do that. We will in 3,000, 5,000 years. We went from the Stone Age to Internet and AI in less time. Okay, American? They're fine. they are watching us and waiting for us to be ready and prepared so that it's safe to make that contact just like you see on star trek you know star trek the prime directive love rotten berry like you see all these scenarios from science fiction it's like it's a bad idea to make contact too early the people have to be ready in a certain way they have to to avoid infighting and then they teleport down hello here we are you know so first contact may be like the way There an embassy people know They expect some kind of craft to come That what they going to give us It like here a craft you know slowly coming down people dropping the staircase and walking down into the building And I joke around they maybe carry briefcases and suits Yeah And you know like be as familiar to us as possible you know sit down at the table in a chair in front and then have a conversation. This is familiar to us. We're cool with that. We understand this kind of meeting, non-scary, non-threatening, right? Second meeting, the spaceship just appears on the landing path. And they walk down. Same deal. It's like, oh, they can do that. It's like a little surprise. You know, after a while, they're just like, you have an ET and a hog rat in your living room. Because people are just like, yeah, they're around. I can have a conversation with them now. And they can do that. Right? So I think they're going to ease us into it. yeah i mean i think i think that their level of technology personally i believe they can bend the actual fabric of space and time and i think people just view it as conventional travel with warp drive or something from star trek but i think basically they create some kind of either interdimensional travel or some kind of wormhole or something where they can actually bend the fabric of space and time that's not just jeff's personal theory but uh you know and I distance between the stars is are crazy. You know, the alpha proxima was the closest star to, to solve. Yeah. How many billions of light years? Four and a half light years away. Yeah. Right. So using conventional propulsion, the maximum you can do is speed of light, but that requires infinite energy. So you can't do that. You have to go at a fraction of the speed of light. So four and a half years travel time at the speed of light. If you go half the speed of light, that takes nine years. At least that's doable in energy, right? Right. Half is still like, that's really fast. It's a lot of energy, but it's still, it's not infinite. That's nine years. You got it. And in between stars, there's nothing. It's super dangerous to spend nine years. if there's a problem, there's no air. It's all self-contained. It's a big problem. There's no parts and there's nobody to fix anything if anything breaks down. No. You have big ships that have to have all these redundancies and recycling systems and they can't have to be able to repair. It's a big thing. It's complicated. It takes a long time. That's a long part of our life. So, Doopal can send drones that way. Like, Voyager is still, you know, traveling. It's still transmitting, though weirdly right now, because it's old. You can imagine a drone, like a robotic, AI-driven kind of vehicle, way more. It's still going to take years just to get there. And that whole solar system may be empty of anything. It's just exploration. So anyway, my point is, these extraterrestrials that come here must, especially if they come here frequently, have one or two things. They already have a base around that we just can't see or detect. So that it's more comfortable. You bring a bunch of resources. You have something here inside the solar system. Or they can do the trip using nonconventional means. And yeah, we have a bunch of theories about how to do that. venting space to space time is one of them uh wormholes is another and we they're probably a bunch of things that uh we just don't know that can speed up that process but in principle they're not they're likely not traveling space like from point a and b like we're thinking about like a like a race car they're doing something funky to space time to kind of and bypass the uh the conventional physics yeah um but we don't really know we just have theories and warp drive is an actual human theory it's not just science fiction it's uh warping space time is a an actual engineering design that we can't yet build but it's a eventually maybe in 30 years we could have a prototype of warp drive like we're We're actually not bad with science. We can figure things out. And eventually we will find ways to travel space at faster than the speed of light. Even though because you're not actually traveling, that speed you're bending the rules of space. That's what you're doing. And then you're popping yourself into a different area real quick. Anyway, so that's more like physics and quantum mechanics. Yeah, it's a little deeper for this show. Well, you can save that for a physics podcast. Well, Professor, I'm going to ask you, I mean, are we ready? I think we are. Well, you have to think at two levels. One is the political level. The other one is the popular level. The population is ready. There's always going to be people that will dismiss or freak out on a first contact, even 100 years from now. Talking about the general population, as a population, we always operate on a bell curve. you always have edges you know but most people are the feeling when I talked about 2020 went from when you have conversations from a very much like fear based like if they come like am I going to be safe kind of like thinking or just disbelief they don't exist to yeah like I'd like to know more like curiosity now yeah I'm curious I'm a little afraid but I'm curious I would like this to happen in a safe way like in a non-aggressive way because the question of is it possible it could be aggressive does come up so there is a concern but it's not like it was before where they were like there's going to be really a big problem it's this more curiosity concern asking questions so that that means to me like population is is thinking about it and they're positioning themselves in that situation in their imagination so when it happens they know how to behave they know they're prepared they've had conversations now and they're having more conversations At the political level, not ready yet. Because people are, there are few governments are having those conversations. They're concerned with, rightly so, earthly matters, mostly. But they're not having the conversation about what would happen? How would we manage this as nations with each other? That's where the embassy comes in. Because that will, we are triggering a lot of conversations with nations that are in conversation with us. There has been some backroom conversations in most nations, I'm sure, different people. Like in the States, you have some senators and some congresspeople talking about it. It's like, yeah, this would be a good idea to be ready. Let's hear Mr. Grush, let's, you know, blah, blah, blah, all these committees. Not all nations are like that. Some nations are, some nations aren't. The U.S. is politically, I think, ready because of the disclosure discussions. Something happens. You know, there's been all these discussions. South America is ready already politically because each individual has had contact in the sky. And the population is already on board. The rest of the world is case by case. Yeah. Yeah. So our work with the embassy, when we're doing my work, which is more the advocacy, kind of putting the information out there, that helps a lot the general population, but also helps policy makers bringing that into the political conversation at the national level, like being prepared. Should we build an embassy? Maybe not. Let somebody else do it, but let's have a conversation, like that kind of thing. so in the next few years especially and i can tell you like since the uh moc was signed with a certain nation a memorandum of collaboration that was not a secret document it was not you know no one in the new the mainstream news picked it up but it was disseminated in in the public like we we did we did our part the movement did their part and other organizations kind of picked it up in the in our network that kind of thing Some news and podcasters talked about it. It's public that there's a nation that's in active conversation to make this happen. So more nations that have had interest in the past few years are looking back at it and asking themselves the question. So this whole laying out information out there is creating more conversations in the back rooms of governments about the topic. When a nation officially declares an embassy, that's where things are going to, all the discussions in all the nations are going to happen simultaneously. There's going to be a convention. There's going to be a discussion probably at the UN. There's already a community about UAP and possible visitation, official visitation of the UN that was triggered. That was Project Titan by San Marino, actually, a couple of years ago, I think. So these discussions have started and they will accelerate, especially if there is a public, an embassy announcement by a nation, then it's going to become real. People are going to say, OK, we officially have to talk about it because people are asking questions now. a lot more on the top level. With that done, with the embassy kind of settled around laws and rules internationally, the whole planet's ready. So for us, from then on, it's basically just keep doing what we're doing, advocacy, education, and it's a waiting game. Like, is somebody going to come? Because I'm not an experiencer. I'm not sure. I'm making a bet. And I think it's a good one. But I'm still making a bet. I don't have tangible proof myself. But I'm making a bet once we lay that out, there's going to be an announcement, there's going to be some sign, and then they'll come at the embassy or elsewhere. Because the embassy doesn't need to be used, really. The existence of the embassy as a structure allows us to be ready for maybe they're going to do something. Maybe they're going to pop an embassy themselves in each nation and make an appearance in each nation. Maybe that's the plan. I don't know. But they can do anything. Once we're ready, they can do some creating. I think it's a good bet, too. And there's millions and millions of people in this world that agree with you and agree with me. So before I let you go, how can people support the ADC and its goals moving forward? Well, mostly it is to talk about it. So talk about us, talk about the project, talk about how needed it is. Contact your political leaders about it. Make it known that it's of interest. Contact us if you want to volunteer time, resources, you have some ideas, whatever. Go to our website. You can get in touch with us. But our main goal, really, what we need to do openly is, my task is to spread the word. So more people that spread the word that know about this, you know, I would love to be, for example, love to be on another podcast like Joe Rogan. Like a big one. Get the word out really wide. Well, if you have access to that, let's bring me on there, right? Anything to spread the word is good. And you, Jeff, you are playing a part here because you are spreading the word. And we all, this is a humanity project. So everybody can contribute in any small way they can to bring humanity into readiness more and more. And then we'll see, like, if we're right and they're waiting for us respectfully to be ready, they'll come on their own terms. And then we'll have a blast because that's going to be transformational for our civilization. It will change the course of history, everything as we know and everything as we understand. I think so. In the first day. That's exciting. It's very exciting. Interesting stuff that you're a part of, Professor. Thank you for your time. Best of luck. I can't wait to see what the next decade brings for the ADC. Thank you so much. Thank you for listening to the Politics, Prepping and Paranormal podcast. Your source for real news and analysis on politics, prepping, paranormal, conspiracy theories and the volatile state of the world we live in. Tune in next week and every week for a new episode and stay safe, stay healthy and stay vigilant.