The Business Plot: Coup or Conspiracy Theory? | March 26, 2026

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Visit nobleproject.com and use code macro for 35% off your entire first order. That's www.nobulproject.com and use code MACRO for 35% off. Welcome back to macro dosing. It is Thursday, March 26th. I am joined once again by chief. Thank you for joining us again. Happy to be here. Am I filling in for PFT or Arian today? So you're in PFT's seat. And yeah, so I would say you're in for PFT again. We didn't have a fill in for Arian on Tuesday, but today we do. Uncle Chaps, welcome back. Thank you. Thank you boys for joining me. I like this crew. Yeah. This is a solid three. So yeah, PFT will be back next week from everything I understand, but nobody tells me anything. So I think PFT will be back next week. PFT is in that golf tournament. I don't know what days that is, but he'll be back at some point. We'll have the regular crew. But today we have myself, chief and Chaps. How we doing boys? I'm good. I just got back from Arkansas. What are you doing there? I went for a draft Kings. Me and Donnie went and did a little day tripping there. So we left yesterday morning and came back that same evening. Arkansas, Northwest Arkansas underrated beautiful. Is that? I was shocked. I loved to do the hot springs. Is that what you? We didn't go to hot spring. We went right around the University of Arkansas, but it was great. What were you going to say? They love talking about Northwest Arkansas. They do. They're like ignore the rest of the state, but Northwest is good. Everybody, like even the airport on the screen when you're going there says Northwest Arkansas. Yeah, they love it. Like it doesn't say Fayetteville or Bensonville or anything like that. Northwest Arkansas. I have to admit that place is beautiful. Like the natural scenery, the bluffs. I'm a big bluffs guy. You love a bluff? I love a good bluff. Did a little jumping off bluffs into the water yesterday. You ever been down to? Oh, what's the name of I'm blanking on it? Starfrock? Been there yet? Take your family down to Starfrock. Some good bluffs down there. Okay. If there's a bluff, I'm in. I'm in for a bluff. I want to find the best bluffs in America. Okay. Bluffing. I think I'm going to Columbia next month and I think there's some bluffs down there too. They got bluffs. Yeah. What distinguishes a bluff from just a mountain? I'll tell you this. I don't know. Because you hear about bluffs, but I don't know if you showed me a lineup, I don't know that I could identify the bluff. And the Ozark Mountains aren't mountains. They're plateaus. Sure. Like it's the Ozark Plateau region. So there's a lot of different types of geography that I'm not. So it says here a bluff is a steep, high bank cliff or slope typically with a broad rounded face formed by erosion along a body of water. So Starfrock, definitely a bluff. Okay. It's only like 90 minutes from here. I like bluffs. I like archipelagos too. Oh yeah. Archipelagos are nice. I can be talked into a billabong. I don't know what that is. I thought it was like a surf brand. Yeah. It's like a little body of water. So you know when you go to the beach and you have that little area away from the main body of water and it'll form like a little body of water in the sand, like still on the beach that gets like really, really warm. Yes. That's a billabong. The hotel I'm staying at in Hawaii when I'm going this summer has like a man made big one of those like within the hotel. Where are you going in Hawaii? I'm doing half and Waikiki and then half on the North Shore of Oahu. Are you a curry guy? Do you like curry? Not really. Spicy? Okay. Yeah. Like the Japanese curry specifically. So there's various types of curry like Jamaican curry is different from Indian curry, different from Japanese Chinese, but the Japanese curry is my favorite kind of curry. And there's a place there that I absolutely love called Koko Ichibanas and Waikiki. We've got a list of restaurants to go to and they have a ton of like Asian food obviously because it's probably closer to Japan than the West Coast. Yeah. They've got all sorts of stuff there. I've never been so I'm looking forward to it. Yeah. It's great. You'll love it. Waikiki is beautiful. There's Waimea Falls is there. Like if you're going up to the North Shore, highly recommend. If you can rent a car, do that because you're going to see so much more and get out of Waikiki. Yeah. That's the plan. And then we're the other half, we're staying at the hotel where they filmed for getting Sarah Marshall. Nice. Okay. Yeah. Which is supposed to be like one of the nicest ones we got. Okay. Honestly, her like a Kristen Bell in that unbelievably attractive. Agreed. I had a good impression on her back then. But she was on my hall pass list with my wife for a long time. That's all right. Yeah. She's the hottest one in that movie. Me and Kunis. Yeah. I would go Kristen Bell for me in that particular environment. I think I'm still going me and Kunis, but I did love Kristen Bell as well. I just think her personality is adorable as well. She's cute. Yeah. She's cute. Yeah. She's a cutie. Yeah. It's a good movie. It is. Not a bad choice. Unbelievable dong on Jason Segal too. He had to write that in, right? Oh yeah. I mean, you got to find a way. You got to find a way to get your penis like that. Yeah. And you're like writing. You got to figure out a way to work that in there. You think that was real? Oh yeah. Yeah. I think so. I thought so. Yeah. I don't know. He's a really tall guy. Yeah. He's got a long wiener too. Yeah. I saw that movie. Yeah. It's either he asked to put it in and it's real or it was put in for him in which case I think it's fake. No, I think it's real. I think it's real. I think it's real because they are all like buddies, everybody that's on that show together and they're like, dude, he's got a hammer. We got absolutely to this wrench in here. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Has he ever, did he go on like a run, like a Jeter run after that movie came out? I mean, how I met your mother. No, I mean, like, yeah. Stating. Probably. Because otherwise, like, what's the point? Just for us to be talking about it. Yeah. I mean, imagine exposing your penis 15 years later, then you got three dickheads on a podcast behind the dynamite dick. I hope he gets his clip. Yeah. That would be nice comment. All about Jason Segal's fiance and dating history. Yeah. How is this an article? He's engaged to a dancer who's beautiful. Yeah. Checked out. Let's see. I gotta take a look at her. She was a so you think you can dance contestant. Oh, Kayla Radomsky. Appeared as a Laker girl in the HBO TV show, Winning Time. Oh, shout out, Mark Titus. Is he in that show? No, but he was almost Kurt Rambus. Really? Yeah. Oh, I remember him saying that now. Yeah, she's, she ain't bad looking. Mad Dog, who is Alexis Mixtor? I don't know. Is she an unknown? Mixtor. M-I-X-T-E-R. Alexis. Dated Michelle Williams for a year. Oh, I do remember that. Oh. Heath Ledger's ex-wife? Yeah. Well, widow. Oh, yeah. I guess that's more appropriate. Good bone structure on Alexis Mixtor, but not my type. Okay. Linda Cardellini. Oh, yeah. She, what do I know her from? So to answer your question, no, that is not a Jeter type right. No. No. You know her from, she was in Scooby-Doo. She was in Freaks and Geeks. She was in Dead to Me. No, I know her from something far more ridiculous. I know her from the Daddy's Home series. Yes, she was the mom and daddy's home. Would you say Segal is attractive? I think he's handsome. Yeah, I think he's a good looking dude. I also think he's, let's see how old he is. Because I would say like, he has a personality that would be more attractive the more you get to know him. I would agree. Here. Which is why I was asking about the Jeterun, because he's tall. Yeah, he's really tall. Successful. Handsome. 6'4". Hammer. Big T, what's your guess? He's got to be 52. 46. See, I was thinking 40s, but then I was like, he looks like he could have been in his 40s in, for getting Sarah Marshall. Yeah. He's kind of, he hasn't really aged a ton. I would say he's aged gracefully. Good for him. I think he's handsome. I do think he also, I wouldn't say he's like, super, super like hot, but his personality, very much bumps him up a weight class. He's like the Anne Hathaway of men. Anne Hathaway, literally. Well, Anne Hathaway. Drop dead gorgeous. No personality involved. Yeah. No personality involved. Anne Hathaway is an all-timer. You think so? I think she's like, I think she's like classically beautiful. All-timer, wow. Yes. You don't agree? I wouldn't say all-timer, no. I think, I think she's- I think most dudes would say all-timer. Oh, really? I don't think most dudes would. I don't think so either. Oh, thank you. Should we all text a random dude right now and see what they say? Mm-hmm. Let me face it. All-timer to me means like, Adrenalima. Like, that's when you say like all-timer. The fact that that's who you go to is an all-timer is nuts. All-timer for me? Jennifer Love-Hewitt. Yes. Jennifer Love-Hewitt. I think, literally there is a meme that's like, my buddy just woke up from a 15-year coma. What should I tell him? And it said, LeBron James and Anne Hathaway still doing it. Yeah. Okay. All right. I'm texting a random guy. I have one friend whose thoughts on Anne Hathaway I know and he would agree, but I'm not texting him. I'm texting a rando. Is it reasonable to assert that Anne Hathaway is an all-timer? Why do you say saying Adrenalima is an all-timer is like preposterous? Not necessarily preposterous. Just like, it's interesting that that's who your mind went to first. You know what? In terms of like most beautiful women who have ever lived, I think Adrenalima is near the top of the list. Yes, but that's a different thing. You know, well, what are we talking about? This is supermodel. Right. Like Anne Hathaway is an actress who has, I think, actress and supermodel is different. I just think it's a different kind of. You know what? I'm going to recant. I'm going through pictures of her. She is gorgeous. I don't think she's not like, pin up. You're going to buy her posters from Spencer's and put it up on your wall whenever you're 15. Like that she's not that type, but she is. That was Brittany for me. She is like, if you're going to like a Vogue release party, you want to bring somebody that looks like Anne Hathaway. Yeah. If you're going, if you're going, yeah, some kind of black tie event. Classy woman. Yeah. I mean, she was in Princess Diaries. I mean. Chief, I'll let you read the response, which I'm not going to read out loud, but just suffice it to say the person I texted agreed. Yeah. He referenced, we could say, Love and Other Drugs where she's. Good move. Topless quite a bit. Yes, James. The person I texted said she's in the hall of really good, but not the hall of fame. She's Paul Kinnariko. No, that's disgusting. That's disgusting. She's Tony Romo. No, she might be Albert. Everybody knows respects the game. She's Albert Pujols. Albert Pujols. My God. Albert. I can't believe you all are 700. That's an all timer. That's all. That's all. All timer. That's yeah. If you're going to. I mean, like you said, when you think all timer, I don't think of necessarily the hottest woman you've ever seen. For instance, I don't think of a woman. Arian does not find to be attractive. Margot Robbie. I don't think of her when I think all timer, incredibly hot. I think of someone like Anne Hathaway. I feel like the Wolf of Wall Street is when she exploded. She was all time in that. But she was only like 23 in that movie, which is crazy. Yeah. But yeah, like that's one of the hottest times anyone has ever. That's one of the hottest people that's ever existed in that exact moment in time. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. She comes out of like the bathroom or the closet or whatever in that movie. I've seen it. Yeah. Yeah, I've seen it with the scene. Yeah. Good scene. Good movie. Good scene. Great movie. Relatable scene, except I like the, you know. All right. Well, yeah. Anyways. Good show, guys. Yeah. Yeah. All right. And that's the show. All right, fellas. Quick question. If you're a bigger guy, how many times have you bought a shirt that technically fits but doesn't actually fit? It's either baggy, tighten the chest or shrinks in a crop top after one wash. It's brutal. That's why one bone exists. They make premium essentials engineered specifically for bigger builds, not just sized up medium teas. These are designed for the ground up for broad shoulders, bigger chest and longer torsos. The proportions are dialed, cleaned through the body, no boxy look and no weird pulling. And the fabric is super soft, structured with stretch. It holds its shape. 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That was a jarring headline. He's been in the news several times the last few months for stuff that you just don't want to be in the news for. What else has he been in? You want to read the headline here? Yeah. So he allegedly shouted an anti-semitic phrase and then also bit a woman. I'm curious how those two interact with each other. A woman in Los Angeles claims Pukinakua made an anti-semitic comment and later bit her so hard he broke her skin. Allegations the Ram superstars says are total BS. So he denies them. The alleged victim in an application for temporary restraining order lays out what she claims happened on December 31st, 2025 after a group outing in Century City. The woman says the night got off to a rocky start after the 24 year old allegedly said something about Jewish people which distressed her. Unfortunately, the woman says the remark was just the first act in what became an escalating course of rude or vulgar threatening, violent and harassing conduct. His lawyer from what I saw didn't even dispute the biting because they have pictures of it and he was like, oh, they were just messing around. Just classic horse play. But yeah, just a nibble. I mean, great receiver just seems to be in the news for some weird stuff recently. That's quite the bite mark. That's like, that looks like a shark bite. Yeah. This is like that old Seinfeld episode where they're trying to match up a pencil with a guy's teeth marks. Steve, if you bought the right car, he wanted to buy a famous actor's car. You've missed me with Seinfeld. No Seinfeld for you? No. No Seinfeld for you? I can deal without it. Yeah. Okay. I've watched one episode in its entirety and it was an episode where I guess they were highlighting the absurdity of the show. I think in the episode of the show, Jerry Seinfeld was talking about creating a show that would just be Seinfeld. Yeah, it was like bringing it to NBC and making fun of how stupid it is. Correct. A show about nothing. But to someone who views the actual show as that, it was just kind of a meta like, so you see it too kind of deal. Well, that was the point. Yeah. Yeah. It was very intentional. But like other people would find that funny if you like the show. I don't like the show, so I just find it off-putting. Are you a Larry David guy at all? No. Oh, I love Larry David. But I haven't, I've seen a couple episodes of Curb Your Enthusiasm and I've seen clips that are funny. I've just, it has not struck me as something I need to sit down and watch. I think Curbs is miles better than Seinfeld. I agree. I think it's... Larry David is a better main character. Jerry Seinfeld is a fucking horrific actor. Yeah. Larry David's bad acting is hysterical. So Larry David has said in an interview somewhere that he's such a bad actor that they don't have like real scripts. They have like ideas and then they kind of like improv or they might have a line and then they improv and improv and just try to get like the best. It's perfect. Yeah. The way that they do it is great. I can't actually act. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think you could take it seriously enough. Yeah. The relationship, Larry David's like interactions with his daughter are amazing. They're so funny. Yeah. Because they're so much alike. Yeah. Like how she'll just start going off on some random inconsequential thing and he's like fired up about it too. She's like, somebody waved to me when I let him across the street. I don't need you to wave. Just get across the street. I'm letting you go. I don't need, we don't need to have this whole interaction. And then they just start ripping together for like 10 minutes. Beautiful. Yeah. It's nice. Yeah. I was just reading Puka's lawyer's statement. They seemed to pretty unequivocally deny the allegations. So. Oh yeah. You're not going to come out and just be like, yep. That was me. No, the bite is indisputed. Yeah. There's a photo of it. Yeah. So. But yeah, we'll see what happens with that. You know, one of the top receivers in the NFL, but might be a weird guy. Happens. Did you all see? I sent over, do you know who chief you obviously do? Chaps, do you follow Tyler Glass now at all? You know of his work? Um, not familiar with Tyler Glass. He's a, he's a really good pitcher. He plays for the Dodgers. He was asked the three people living or dead he would like to have dinner with. I assume you haven't seen this. Nope. Okay. Don't watch it. Well, you'd never be able to guess. Okay. Probably guess one. Yeah. One of them is, uh, maybe the most famous person who's ever lived. Jesus. He goes, Jesus, one strong one, one. Yeah. But he says like, I'm not a religious person, but I would just like to, to talk to. Also, when we have these conversations, people need to say what kind of dinner it is. Cause if I'm going to drink with the boys and have like go to a steakhouse, have a couple glasses of wine, maybe a whiskey or two. I'm not, I don't want to bring Jesus. I feel like you have one guy that's not drinking at all. Drinking? Jesus drank. Yeah. But he's not drinking whiskey and he's not getting out of control. I feel like you're just going to mind your, it'd be like going with your biggest boss. Free drinks though. You know, like it's going, you're going with your boss to drink. I'll talk to you after. Let's have him. He's going to know what you did anyways. Yeah. It's like Santa Claus in that one. Yeah. Okay. Jesus. He goes, Jesus, one, one. Strong pick. Yeah. I'm here. Yeah. Number two, he goes, Mohammed, which stark contrast to Jesus, but I guess in the same realm of like he said, he's not religious, but if you want to talk to, there's a billion and a half people that would disagree that they're on different realms. Seeing that Jesus. No, the whole thing would turn into like, I'm the son of God. No, you're not. You don't know that. Of course. You want to get them together. Why would you not? It'd be like the biggest meeting of the minds ever. Yeah, but Mohammed is like, you're not the son of God. You don't know that. He does say that. Okay. Well, that's like the court. That's kind of the big difference. Yeah. Like Jesus. I'd like to see him hash it out. Okay. I think we could, we get to the bottom of a lot of stuff. Okay. So he has Jesus and Mohammed. You live stream that. Tell me that doesn't go insane. No, you would do numbers. Yeah. I mean, if you had, I think a great three for me just based on this initial two, Jesus, Mohammed, little sass. That's about where he goes. That's about what he does. So you have Jesus and Mohammed. You would think the third one would be, you know who? Abraham. I don't know. Yeah. Moses. Gandhi. Sure. Dave Chappelle was the three. Okay. Jesus. A little levity. Yeah. Mohammed and Dave Chappelle with Tyler Glass now. I feel like you don't get the full Dave Chappelle experience of Jesus. Oh, you might. He doesn't care. Yeah, he doesn't care. Yeah. But yeah, just a fascinating three. That's a good three. Interesting three. I mean, definitely if you're going to bring Jesus, I feel like you bring Mohammed too. I just feel like that conversation just evolves into shouting. Yeah. So I'm not interested in that. I want to have a good time. You can bring one of them. What type of dinner does that strike you as? Like if Jesus is going to be there? Jesus, Mohammed, Dave Chappelle and Tyler Glass. I mean, you're probably, if I'm bringing Jesus, I'm probably going to get seafood. So then we're going to get one meal and then everybody could just split it. Sure. Yeah. I'm going to get the fish. Yeah. Oh, well, everybody's having the fish. I have a brand-zine. But you know, maybe go get a deep dish. I can see. Okay. Yeah. This is a more casual meal to you. Yeah, casual. No wine. No, like a, yeah, because Jesus is there. Mohammed's not going to drink. He's definitely not drinking. He didn't drink. So I feel like, yeah, I'd probably just go get it. They're at odds right away. Yeah. I'd go, but I'd make, I'd call ahead and make sure it was a place that I could get the kind of soda that I want. Oh, you're not drinking either then? Huh? You're not having any wine either? Not if they're not. I don't want to be the only guy. What do you mean? Like I want to go to a Coke restaurant. I don't want to go to a Pepsi restaurant. I don't want to drink Pepsi in front of Jesus. Okay. No, that's fair. Yeah. I think this is one of the places you kind of want it to be quieter. Quiet spot? Yeah. Yeah. So you almost need the steakhouse. Dave and Buster's. Jesus, just killing skeeball. That would be awesome. Jesus, I was it again. Let's get you on Papa Shot. Yeah. Imagine what he would do to those little beavers that pop out, the little gophers. Just look at them. Those big rubber mallets. Yeah. Yeah, whack-a-mole. That's a good three. Yeah. I had fun. It's an interesting three. It would probably be fun. As long as we got to set terms where it's just like we leave certain subjects off the table here. Like I don't want to be arguing about Jesus as a litty inch the whole time. Who his dad is. Right. You know. See, I would. You want? I want to get into it. Yeah. I don't think you can get by it. I think you got to have the conversation. Otherwise, there's a huge elephant in the room. The thing about Jesus is if you have Jesus there, you can't talk to anyone else. You can't have Jesus sitting in front of you and talk to Chappelle. Yeah. I don't think I'm talking at all. And that's fair enough. Yeah. I think you just, but I would want Chappelle asking questions. I don't want Chappelle there at that conversation. No. I don't think he fits. No. Yeah. It's a hard pivot. Yeah. I don't think he's intellectual. He's a smart guy. You're going to need a guy to break the tension, but you could do that. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. Also, that group with Kate would be fantastic too. She'd just be apologizing over and over again to everybody. For everything she's ever done. Yeah. For existing. Oh, I'm so sorry to ask. So sorry to ask and talk. All right. Yeah. Do we have a three? Do we have a three? These are the questions that I just don't, I never have a good answer to them. Yeah. I feel like it depends on what kind of mood I'm in. Like there's certain days I wake up and I, if I wanted to go out, like when I interviewed Ken Burns, I could go out to dinner with Ken Burns and every night for 10 years and not be bored because of the amount of stuff that he knows. Right. And that's a, that's a good answer is someone who, a depth of knowledge. Conversationalist, somebody like that. I think Ken Burns, I'll do, let's do people we've interviewed. You want to do that? Okay. I have one for sure. Okay. Stone cold. Okay. He was the man. Yeah. And I would love to go to dinner with Stone Cold. He was awesome. I would go, so mine just off the top of the dome, it might be different if I thought about it for a while. I would say John Stuart, Ken Burns and Woody Williams, the Medal of Honor recipient for World War II was a flamethrower guy. Okay. Asterical. And he was like a hundred years old and was still like quick as shit. I feel like those three, like with Ken Burns history knowledge, John Stuart's like respect for veterans and things like that in American history and then throwing in Woody Williams, I would go out with that crew all the time. When you say flamethrower, is that a euphemism or is that? No, like a legit flamethrower. Yeah. But what does that mean? So in pill boxes in World War II, like on in Iwo Jima, they would have these machine guns that would go inside these fortified positions on the side of Mount Sarabachi. And they went, Woody actually told me an insane story. Like they had been doing island hopping campaigns. And I think that a lot of folks, when they think about World War II veterans, you look at Iwo Jima, they did that battle and that was it. No. Those guys went from like Okinawa to Iwo Jima to like they went all over the Pacific, like constantly over and over again. So they were learning different things. One day on the on a beach, they brought in these huge pallets that had these big flamethrower guns that they put the big tanks on your back and you have like napalm that you're essentially napalm that you're gassing people with. Like a legit flamethrower, like the thing that KFC bought, but like a huge version. They did not train on those in the United States. They brought them. They had like the manual they read and they asked for volunteers. Woody Williams was a 19 year old kid who elisted illegally because he was so young when he went like he went without his parents permission, got there. They asked him if he wanted to do it. He asked what it did and they told him he was like, yeah, I want to do that. So he he put it on and then you would just run up to those pills. Pill boxes and you would unleash the fire and you burn people alive. They showed it in a safe and private Ryan, too. They're insane. Another one I haven't gotten around to. Really? Yeah, we talk about this fairly often. I have an extensive list of movies from 1970 to 2005 that I just haven't gotten around to yet. I might watch some of them. I have what do I have until? Is it June 1st to watch training day? What was the date? That was June 15th, but you may be something. I think it's June. Yeah, just after March Madness and everything. Yeah, it's in June. I have to watch training day. Aryan has to watch The Godfather and PFT has to watch something. You guys just got to put leave AMC running. You'll go bump into all of those movies. Yeah. But yeah, I have a whole list of ones that I haven't seen either because I know I won't like them or I just haven't gotten around to it yet. OK. I'm more of a video game guy. I don't do a ton of movies. Really? Yeah. I haven't. I just I fell off of video games. I had I bought a PS5 because I was going to play the college football game and I got FIFA. And I had some worker guys in my apartment and I was in the back bedroom with my dog. Stole it right off my right off my mantel. I didn't know for like a month because then my brother was going to come to my house and watch my dog while I was out of town. And he's like, can I play FIFA? I'm like, yeah, knock yourself out. He goes, well, where is it? I'm like, how long between those two events? Like a month. Wow. Yeah. So like I just never even didn't notice that it was gone. Never had the urge to play. I think I played that PS5 like twice. And it was just something like I'm out. Can't do the video games anymore. Ben DiGiulio and I went to meet up with a sketchy guy in Hoboken, a Facebook marketplace who was this is when the PS5 first came out and you couldn't get them and Ben wanted an Xbox and I wanted the PlayStation. This guy was selling both of them for some exorbitant amount of money. And we went over there and we met up with him. And he seemed he seemed pretty legit, but like they exchanged drivers licenses and like all this stuff. Shit. And he was like, can we open the boxes just to make sure they're in there? And the guy was like, I can't let you open the box because then something about, you know, whatever. And we were like, OK, so I went home in an Uber with what I hoped was a PS5 and open it up and it still works. So yeah, I paid a bunch for it. But I ended up, I mean, you couldn't buy one for a year after that. So I got my use out of it. But yeah, I still I'm still rocking with the PS5. I'm sorry that happened to you. Yeah, like it sucks because it's just I was going to give it to my brother. Anyway, I just take it home with you. But yeah, it was an expensive thing that I just never used and it got stolen. What was the area of work that those people were doing? They were repairing drywall because I bought a sauna for my second bedroom and I needed more power so they had to knock out a wall to do it. So then I had other guys come in to replace the drywall. There's a giant hole like the size of a TV wall. So they repaired that and I was in the other bedroom because the dog doesn't like my dogs a little bit racist. Oh, interesting. Yeah. So I had he goes nuts when there are people of color in my apartment. So I had him in the back bedroom and and then they're like, hey, like we're done here. And I'm like, all right. And I went out and like, you know, put him back in there and close the door. They shook hands say goodbye. Conzo. Wow. Yeah. So white guys, he doesn't flip out. But he will like anybody who's a stranger who comes in, he like kind of freaks out but then calms down. But if it's a person of color, he never calms down. Interesting. Yeah. It's unfortunate. What color is the dog? He's a multicolor. He's a hound, so he's black, brown, white and gray. So no matter what I wear, I got dog hair showing up on me. Yeah, it's tough. Yeah. Could be worse. Could be your your washer could make your clothes stinky. That guy is something else. Yeah. Yeah. He's mad at me right now. Why? Because he does white socks, Dave, because he does this thing where he parrots people. And on Monday or Tuesday, I called him out because you'll be like, like on the show today, Rudy, we did a draft and Rudy called somebody a junkyard dog. And Dave goes, yep, he's a junkyard dog. And he does that all of the time. And it's not even necessarily just like we had a call with we're trying to have this congressman on Ro Khanna, who you've had on. Yes. And we had like a chat with his PR woman and I said something and Dave, like she answered my question and then Dave repeated the exact same question as soon as she was done. But like verbatim. And he just so I start, I brought it up on a show how he just he does this parrot thing and he got very mad about that. And then I pointed out on the show and I just started laughing at it. He's like, what are you laughing at? And he knew exactly what I was laughing at. And he got mad. He got mad. He's got a little mad at me. How long do those last? The parrots? No, when he gets mad. Oh, it depends. It could be the rest of that recording or something will linger a few days. But he normally gets over it. Yeah, I love Dave. Yeah, he's Dave's very funny. He's one of a kind. There's only I've always said he's one in a billion. He's easily one of my favorite people in this company. Yeah, easily. Yeah. His thing about his law and underrated smart people always say he's dumb. He does so well on my questions. He knows he knows he knows he knows shit. He's not an idiot. He's had like far from an idiot. He's had such like an awakening. Like we used to call him our foul little boy because like something happened where he COVID and then he got a very serious girlfriend who's lovely. She's she's a great girl. But like those two things. So like Dave pre pandemic Dave. A totally different person, a totally different person. So like his if you were asking him these questions in 2019, I don't think he'd have a shot. Yeah, so did COVID make him more learned? Yeah, I think he does a lot of documentaries and he does like a lot of he reads. He read. He audio books. Yeah, he does some audio books. Yeah, which I count as I count as reading. There was a big blue sky argument over that the other day. You see that and you know who does who else cause it reading scientists, brain scientists. Like if you read like they did these scans where if you put like sensors on somebody's brain, the same exact portions light up if you are reading it with your eyes or if you're reading it with your ears, it's the same exact thing. I will say so when I I've been kind of late on my reading lately, but I'll usually have the audio book and the physical book and I'll like if I'm reading, then I'll go if I'm in the car, I'll just pick it up where it was. But I have a much harder time focusing on just the audio. A lot of times both at the same time. That's what I like to do. Immersive reading where you read the audio book and you're looking at like a physical copy or Kindle at the same time and you're just kind of following along. Do you have to speed it up? Yeah, I usually speed it up at like point or like two speed one point five at the very minimum. But yeah, that's how it helps with memorization, remembering things. But I do audio books. I think the Bible is the only book I read physically because I can't I can't do that. Audio feels wrong. You'd have to have a hell of a narrator and have to be like, yeah. And also I just I like I take I take time in the morning and I read it. But then if I'm reading like a book, I just do an audio book while I'm playing video games or something. And you feel like you retain the information? Yeah. What's your number one video game? What do you spend the most time on? Well, during baseball season, MLB, the show just came out. So my friends and I are on that. OK, two hours a day. But you're not you're not like a backup for Bush, are you? No, no, no, no. OK. I play Fortnite a little bit just because it's so it's so ridiculous that it's actually fun. Like it comes all the way back around to like it's so dumb, it's funny. OK. That's like a first person. I've never played Fortnite before. Yeah. But it's just like you can be Buzz Lightyear and do like the. And I spiced dance like it's dumb as hell. Yeah. What else do we play? FIFA, a tiny bit. NHL also NHL. NHL is a good like three or four guys. OK, playing. Yeah. So I haven't done NHL. I mean, it might have been like N64. Wow. And. But I went through like a big FIFA kick during the week with my PS4 during the beginning of covid. That's really it. Like I just I'm kind of just done. That's how I got into soccer was playing FIFA during covid. And I liked Man City's uniform. That year they had the like tequila sunrise, the pink and green. And I liked that. And so I was like, I'm going to that's your squad city. And then it turns out their bar in New York was right down the street from my apartment. So it was a it was a fortuitous deal. I do like that. All the teams it's kind of like College Forest where they just like there's a place for nottingham forest called the Embassy in Little Lily. And you go there during the game, there's at least 10 people there. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good time. Yeah. Speaking of England, there's there's a bit of an epidemic going on in London. Have you all seen this? No. The squirrels are vaping. Stop. People are leaving vapes all over the place, I guess. And the squirrels smell the fruity aromas and they mistake it for food. So the squirrels are hitting the vape. They're not inhaling, are they? I don't know. It looks like they're. Yeah, they're blowing mad. They're on the pins. They're doing mad clouds over there. It is a funny image now that I clicked on the link you sent. Yeah, you would think this would be a problem everywhere, not just London. Yeah. Are you a nicotine guy? No, you? No. No. I was a weed and whiskey guy. Yeah. I like both of those too. Maybe I have too many vices. Do you do the pouches? Yeah, that's all I do. What does that make you? What does that do? Dude, I honestly don't know. I don't know. Like people say. You don't feel anything? So if I I don't really have an addictive personality. So like this is now empty. I've got the last one in my mouth. We don't have any of the flavors here that I like. So I'll go like several weeks without having any and not have a problem. But if I have like a 12 milligram one, I am like buzzing, buzzing. But if I but I just kind of like routinely just kind of pop them in. Maybe it might help. They say it helps you like relax. They say it helps you focus. Those seem like two different things to me. Yeah. So I don't I don't know. So would you say it's like a caffeine? No, it doesn't. Well, like caffeine, I am like impervious to caffeine. So it doesn't really do like I could have a big coffee at six o'clock at night and have no issues. So so I don't know. No, I don't get like it's more of like a head rush when you go from zero to, you know, like a 12 milligram pouch for me. But I know other like White Sox Dave will put like three twelve in at a time because he grew up on like the long cut stuff. And so it's just I don't know. Like it just it's almost like a force of habit at this point. But it's like I don't necessarily need it. Like I think I could I like I know I could just quit. I'm going to quit today until they restock a fending machine with the flavors I like. So I don't know. It's just like just I don't know. It feels good, I guess is why I do it. But I don't necessarily need it the way that some people would say that they need their nicotine fix. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah, I've just never I eat enough fried chicken. I can't be doing that. I knew I knew a girl who she had she would vape and she would like have it in the bed. And she would be like sleeping and you'd wake up to her like trying to feel under your body, she's like to find her vape in the bed while you're sleeping. So but like she wouldn't be awake. It was just like she would hit hit it while asleep in the middle of the night. I do that to myself, but with AirPods. I fall asleep like watching TikTok. Yeah. And then I'll wake up and my AirPods are under my back and that it wakes me up and then I got to put them away at 3 a.m. Yeah. I'm bad about it. You got to figure out a new system to fall asleep. That's horrible. Yeah. Yeah, but you know, if I if I am sleeping alone, my mind will just race and I'll just kind of be up like thinking about shit that I need to do. And so I have to put on like an audiobook or a podcast that I've listened to a thousand times. So it's almost like a hypnosis. I set the timer to go off at like 15 minutes. I never make it to 15 minutes. Interesting. Are you doing it with headphones in? No, I just plug it in and I have like the I have like this dog crate that's looks like a piece of furniture and I just set it up on top of there. Plugged into charge. Just playing out loud. Just playing out loud. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm bad about falling asleep watching videos. I don't know how you do that, especially TikTok. I don't either. But yeah, I got to figure out a better way to go to sleep. I just did. I think I've got more time and then, you know, I wake up and it's doomscroll. It's already happened. Doomscroll to your sleep. But it's I like it, though. I like TikTok, even though I've got I know I got to get off it. It's bad. It is bad in several ways. Yeah. But anyway, it's an addictive app. The most addictive. Yeah. And I know there I texted someone the name of a college. What were we? Oh, we were talking about Miami of Ohio, who Tennessee beat in the NCAA tournament. And I said that they played our high school and Carson Newman, which is like a D3 school in Tennessee, and to get to 31 and 0. The first TikTok I opened that day was of the Carson Newman women's basketball. They are listening to you. No, they track your keystrokes. Oh, is that what it is? Yeah, they track what you type. Don't love that. No, it's terrible. And I know it is. But whatever. I'm going to watch it. Oh, also my future brother-in-law said he met you and your mother. Yes, my mother was there and said that you guys were lovely. Oh, I appreciate that. My mom, my mom was chatting up a storm with half of the Miami football team last week. She spoke with him quite a bit, I guess. She's the one that told me, oh, chiefs, future brother-in-law. And I go, who? Wait, what? No, my mom was the one who alerted me of your future family being there. Oh, yeah, no, she there is nothing my mom loves more than to be in a college bar hanging out, hanging out, chatting the boys. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, she loves it. And she doesn't drink. She's not a drinker. She will drink the equivalent of what she drinks in a year, one college weekend. And that's not even a bad like she's not drunk. She just doesn't drink. She gets into Oxford, Ohio, special place. Something comes over her. Did she go there? Nope. No, her and my father went to Toledo. Yeah. No, she just loves. My parents love being in the college town with us. They buy everyone whatever they want. My mom wanted to buy me my hotel room, I said. So actually, my work will pay for the hotel room. But thanks for the offer. Thanks, mom. Yeah. Yeah. No, but she's a lovely woman. That's that's what I hear. Yeah, she's great. Yeah. Likes to party, loves to party. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Everybody needs a little bit of help now and then. You can talk to to somebody. BetterHelp is great for that. You just get online, talk to any one of their licensed therapists. Mad Dog, McKenzie, I know y'all love it. It can be challenging to make time for therapy. BetterHelp makes scheduling and attending your weekly sessions easy because it's all online. You do phone, video or message chat according to your schedule. With over 30,000 therapists, BetterHelp is the world's largest online therapy platform, having served over six million people globally. 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And I think I'm still in the minority on this. I've always found Apple Maps to be perfectly fine. I agree. It has never led me astray on the road. I use it if I'm somewhere unfamiliar to find restaurants or whatever. It's it's been fine to me. You're not a wayshead. I will never. I hate ways. I hate the people who talk about ways and they're like, I can't stand it. Yeah. And then Google Maps. Everybody's got to use Google Maps. I don't want to download another app to do the thing that this one already does. But now they're putting ads in here and they're like, oh, go to this. Now I might download Google Maps. I don't know. I'm in a I'm in a tizzy over this. Do you guys remember MapQuest? Oh, yeah. Where you print out. Do you know that they they want to say this is them? But they would take your route near some of their partners. So they might partner with British Petroleum or 7-Eleven or something like that. And they would alter your route ever so slightly to make sure you're driving by those establishments. Yeah. Really smart. I remember I was on a family vacation to Montana to a ski resort and MapQuest led us to I don't know if it was like a frozen lake. I don't remember the exact details. We ended up on a patch of ice somewhere that we weren't supposed to be. And we called the resort and we were like, hey, that were at such and such and they were like, you use MapQuest. And we were like, yeah, it goes. Yeah, they take everyone there. You got to do this, this, then this. And I was like, that seems like something that should be fixed. Yeah. But yeah, that was a little scary. But other than that, that's my main memory. Driving a car on a frozen lake would be that would be scary. Yeah, I don't remember exactly what it was. Something akin to that. Oh, but yeah, shout out MapQuest. Like I think about businesses like that. Do they just not exist anymore at all? I wonder like that had to be a very big business. Certainly probably had more employees than like we do. Yeah, the map version and so wailing industry. Yeah, so do they just active website? Yeah, so what do they do now? It's I think they probably have an app. AOL bought MapQuest in the year 2000 for one point one billion. Good purchase. Wonder what you could sell it for now. Eight dollars. Yeah. Yeah, probably buy AOL for eight dollars. I'm on MapQuest right now and you can get directions. It's a similar setup to like Google Maps where it has, you know, search places and then on the map, it has different tabs for coffee, food, gas, grocery and things of that nature. But it's I mean, similar enough to a Google Maps look. But I've never heard of anyone be like, actually, I use MapQuest. I just really like the interface. It's definitely a little bit dated, but it's not. I wouldn't consider it a less accurate product than Google Maps based on what I'm looking at. Verizon, which bought AOL for four point four billion, spun off MapQuest for an undisclosed amount. Chat GPT estimates 10 to 80 million today. That sounds high. You know, none of these valuations for tech things. They're making any sense to me. It's all money laundering. Oh, speaking of tech, were we going to talk about Sora? I don't know. We can. Did you have that on there? No, I don't know what that is. That's the AI, the open AI version of the pictures and the videos. It was the thing that people would make AI videos on. And Disney, I think, was acquiring it. OK. And then open AI announced yesterday, they're just shutting it down. Yeah, completely. So that's one win, small win. But that there's something nefarious behind that. I don't know what's coming after it, but they didn't just do that. As like to be altruistic. What do you think that same altman's up to? Well, who knows? I mean, if I could answer that. But yeah, I don't know why they shut it down, because it was supposed it was a big deal three or four months ago when Disney was acquiring a huge chunk of it because people were like, oh, they're going to use AI and all this, whatever. I'm sure they already are. Yeah. Do you see the trailer for the the live action Moana movie? No. It just looks like like visually looks so terrible. Also, who's asking for that? You know, it's too soon. Moana is not that old. You got to have 25 years before you can make it a live action if it's a cartoon. Well, they're just out of ideas. Yeah, they are. But I remember I want to watch Christian Anderson is not walking through that door. This one makes more sense because at least the characters were human to begin with, I never saw Moana, but the Lion King version, the live action Lion King was a disaster. I hated that. Who would have thought trying to make talking animals a thing? Yeah, it'd be tough. Yeah. Well, it's not live action because it's fucking CGI. Also true. And but they had like a star studded. They did. Yeah. Yeah. Shout out Beyonce. Beyonce. Earl Jones. James Earl, who is the original too. But they yeah, they had all like it was a he died. I think so. He might have died. I think he died like four months ago. Didn't he? This is ringing a bell. Yeah, September 9th, 2024. Oh, longer than. Yeah, 18 months. But honestly, that's four months as for a 43 year old. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty good. Thank you. But yeah, so Sora is no more. I just I'm kind of at the point now I have to opt out with the AI stuff. I. Do you chat, EPT something earlier? Like it was like five or 10 minutes ago. Well, I know, but to get an estimate. Well, that's exactly. I'm not saying I'll never use it. OK, I'm just saying with every day it's something new and I just can't. I can't bother myself with it. Wake me up when there are overlords. Right. Yeah. And I'm dubious of that to begin with. I just hate the people running it. But I just, you know, they're shutting down Sora. Their snap face is is rebrand. I don't know, man, do whatever you want. Yeah. You know, stop using so much fucking power. Stop making it where there's towns in Texas that won't have any water. Yeah, that's not good. Yeah. Bad. Yeah. But I was reading about the water thing. I think that might be like overblown. Again, I hate these people, but I was I was I forget exactly what the deal with the water was, but it wasn't like. They use a substantial amount of power. I'd have to go find. Oh, I'm sure. I mean, more like open AI uses more than New York City and San Diego combined. What? More than New York City? More than New York City and San Diego combined. They should have to pay like their own separate premium or shouldn't be allowed to do it. Yeah. They shouldn't be allowed to ruin natural resources to use that much electricity. And if they do it, they should have to do it sustainably. Like, even if you're like, OK, all of you guys, you could build one nuclear power plant and all it is going to be for is. Yeah, I remember. There's got to be ways to get around it. Like the water situation of how much water using siphoning off all the different natural resources causing people's power bills to be insane in certain areas. Having different like surge pricing affected based on what time of day people are using chat, the most. Yeah. And then they want to sell it back to you as a utility. Yeah. And then all these people, they don't like the folks that it's affecting. Percentage of people that use chat, GBT, what do you think it is in the United States? I would guess less than 15. Yeah, it's not as high as you think. I think it'd be way less than 15. Like, like nobody that's in my extended family is definitely not as high as I think it's high. Dude, it's every single person under college age and younger. I think you're at 95 percent college age and younger. That's not a significant portion. I understand. But I'm just saying you have that entire population. Then, you know, my age to your age, I think it's probably 60, 70 percent. 2.5 billion prompts per day over 900 weekly, 900 million weekly active users worldwide, 900 million active worldwide. So that's about that's about 12 percent. It says since its launch, chat, GBT has been used by 10 percent of the global adult population. 34 percent of adults is what I'm seeing here in the United States. Yeah, I think that would check out. Yeah. Yeah. But I think that's only going straight up. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. I mean, it's unavoidable. Like even with your new updates on your phone, you can't avoid using AI at this point. You just can't like you can't even fucking go to Wendy's, dude. Like I went to Wendy's the other day and like near my house. It's the worst shit ever because you're like, I would like to have a double stack, double stack and then you're like, can I have no ketchup? It's already moved on. And if you can't go back like it won't it doesn't and then I go to the window. The person comes like, hey, I actually wanted a large fry instead of a medium. They're like, oh, we can't act once it's already in. We can't do so. It was an AI taking your order. Yeah. And it's like, dude, you're making less money. Because of AI. I couldn't add things on ridiculous. Yeah. And it's like nobody's a fan, you know? It's not like this is a like a politically divisive issue. I don't think anybody likes this. There's certain things about it that I think are absolutely incredible. Like what I'm doing a series where I go through every single country in the world alphabetically and asking certain very like poignant questions about like a certain area and it can give me information about that like in a format that I want. Repeatable, give it a project. I love it for that kind of stuff. I think I think for recipes to toss them for us. I think as if you're like, I have these ingredients. What can I make as it exists now? Like, yeah, I think there's a ton of practical uses for it and great stuff. But like I'm talking about the founders of these companies demanding that. Hey, make her wear a blue bikini. Sure. Yeah. But like them demanding they be funded by the federal government and like we're going to take every job and then you guys can figure out what your jobs will be after that. It's fucked. Like the funniest thing is like people like you got to learn to code. No, you don't know. Yeah, not anymore. Yeah, those guys got fired before anybody else. You got to learn to be a plumber. Yeah, you got to have a trade. I keep trying to talk to my older daughter and to go like go to trade school. Go like be for you ladies. Imagine if my kid, 20 years old, went to go to be a plumber or something like that and advertised that it was a plumbing business that only service women's houses. And it was only women that showed up. Love. Like if you were a 20 something, 30 something professional and you want and you had stuff to get done, you'd feel immensely more comfortable. Yeah. Calling somebody like that to your house. Right. Yeah. It's the same thing like Uber now. Yeah. You can can prioritize getting a woman rider. Yeah. Or like a woman driver. Yeah. Oh yeah. Well, you can. You're the rider. You're the rider, but I'm sure you can prioritize that too. But I think it's a similar thing. And I think not that I also don't own a home, so I don't have these problems quite yet. But I'm sure that I would feel far more comfortable if like a 27 year old woman was fixing my pipes rather than like a shady. Somebody looks like me. Yeah. I mean, not. I'm not. I mean, yeah. Well, honestly. Yeah. You can say it. A tattooed ginger fuck comes to your house. You're like, I feel uneasy. Chaps doesn't make me comfortable, but I know what you mean. I mean, yeah, probably, especially if it was marketed that way of like, you know, I am a plumber for women. I like that idea personally. Yeah. And people that are going to the trades like plumbing and all that make a lot of money. Yeah, dude. Yeah. Way more money than I think people think of. This for my kid. Yeah. Yeah. Like you can make a very good living. What was it the other day? I think I saw someone on Twitter got a job being a male male man. And they were ecstatic because they were like, I have punched my ticket to a middle class life that has benefits and a retirement. And like I have set myself on a great path for being a male man, which you don't think again, you don't think about that as much. I don't think, but those are great career paths. And until that fucking cocoa robot. Starts delivering mail. Yeah, right. Well, they're going to smash into bus station windows. Yeah. The postal service is actually you want to look into people that make insane amounts of money. Yeah. The postal service. Strong union. And I think I mean, plumbing isn't going to get replaced by AI, you know, like. Can't really. I mean, right? I mean, you could like the like the diagnosis part of like what's going on. They could put in a camera. I could probably figure out a different thing. But like the actual doing it going into like you're not. How I mean, eventually I'm sure, but like a robot's going to go upstairs to my house and figure out what's going on. But not any time soon. No, it's like you saying that where it's like they could diagnose, you know, a problem with AI, maybe it's almost like the way you said that reminded me of like laparoscopic surgery in a weird way. Yeah. Where it's like, yeah, they can do all of these things with, you know, the tiniest incisions and go in and blow your stomach up and do that. But you still need the surgeon to do it. Like you still need, yeah, the human dexterity. They're getting crazy because my two best friends from this school, from Berkshire, are now surgeons. They do like crazy robotics for surgery now too. Yeah. But there's still a doctor in the room like using it, but it is they do a lot of robotic surgery now. Yeah. I didn't realize someone or someone I know, I got laparoscopic surgery recently. I didn't realize that they like super inflate your stomach. Or if it's like laparoscopic surgery, it's basically instead of, let's say, like my dad got it to get part of his colon removed. Okay. So let's say if a normal surgery, you know, they like do the big incision, they go in, da, da, da. For this, for a laparoscopic surgery, they make tiny, tiny little incisions. And again, from what I think they inflate your stomach, they put a ton of air into your stomach to give them more room to work around. And they basically take long, I don't even know what to call it. I'm not the best person to talk about this because I'm an idiot. No, act like an expert. Just say it. Thank you. But they use basically like a camera and they go in and cut it with, like, they're behind the screen and you're almost like playing a video game surgery. Oh, crazy. Is I guess the better way to call it? But instead of having a huge, you know, five inch scar across your stomach, you have three, like one, a lot of the times they go through your belly button. So it'll be like one tiny one on your belly button and then maybe like two on your obliques or something. Um, but it's far less invasive and they basically just take a long tool and a camera and they do, do, do, do, do. And they do little. I had that. I had a knee surgery and a wrist surgery where they, it was like the same thing where they made like a little baby incision because I was just getting stuff sucked out of there. Um, and then it was like a local anesthesia. And then you could, I remember like watching it on the camera. It was like a black and white camera and they were going and suck it out. But then for the wrist one, I was 16 or 17. I hadn't grown yet, but the nurse was, um, a friend of my older cousin. So I knew her and she was so hot. And I look like in Hathaway. All the time. So all the time. Yeah. And I guess that I, and I wouldn't like, I was afraid of girls at this point, but I guess I was hitting on this girl like incessantly to the point that they're just like, knock them out. Like up, up as anesthesia, just put them unconscious. You could watch your surgery. Yeah. Like, and you didn't, that didn't freak you out. Dude, I love doing that. No, it didn't bother me at all. See, when I had to get my elbow surgery, I tried to watch it on YouTube before and like see what it was. And it made my anxiety so much worse. I was, I could, I watched 30 seconds and I was like, I can't do this. I think there, there are like parts of my body that I would freak out about. Like I can't, like if I ever had to have contacts, I wouldn't be able to, I like can't touch my eyes. Yeah. I don't understand how people do that. I watched them give me a vasectomy. Yeah. I think I would be nervous about that too. That was a good time. That one, the one that gave me the most pause. Oh, my favorite one I've done. There's actually a video, maybe I'll see if I can find it and send it to you guys of me getting my eye cut open. Oh, no, no, no. I had banana induced pink eye and I had like a big cyst like on the inside of my eyelid where they had to take it and like lance it open to do like the draining. Stop. And I'm doing a selfie video while the guy's doing it. Do not send that. And I'm like, this is one of the best military doctors. If you like military stuff, download, subscribe, zero blog 30. And the guy's like, I've never heard anybody cut an ad read while I was cutting his eye open. That one was your eyeball. Like my eyelid, like it looks huge, but it's like going straight into my. Do not send that. Yeah, I don't want to see that. Yeah, I posted it on ZBT. I think we've lost like 5,000 followers. I had that one and then I watched them, maybe my favorite one ever. I had ingrown toenails and watched them take the scalpel and go straight down the middle of my toes. I do watch some of those on Tik Tok. So I don't think that would bother me. I love watching and get myself get attacked too. I love all that. Yeah. Wrist and need didn't bother me, but I think like any like actual organ. Yeah. Would bother me. The toenails, they take a like razor sharp thing and they just cut down into your like to the knuckle on your toe and you pull out. It's a razor. Yeah. A razor sharp razor. Yeah. But I mean, it just cuts through it like butter and pull out a shard of nail. I've never had that. Yeah. I watched those on Tik Tok sometimes. I'm trying to find it. I got to show chief. No, I don't want to see that. Yes, you do. The eye or the toenail? Um, the eye. I don't have a video of the toenail. No, no, thank you. I don't really want to see the eye chaps. No, you do. You're going to make me see this. I got, I got to find it. I hope you don't. We'll get to our main story before you. All right. Yeah. Let's talk about FDR. Hey, it's Hannah Montoya. Abercrombie's new summer drop is our latest obsession. There's tons of colorful swim, flowy dresses, and they just released new linen blend matching sets. Everything feels so light and breathable. It's perfect for brunch or rooftop happy hours, just like you're on vacation. Shop Abercrombie in the app online and in stores. Yeah, shout out. So I don't think any of us we're going to talk today about the business plot or the the White House push. It's sometimes called or the Wall Street push. Okay. I don't think any of us had ever heard of this. No. But I was just looking up stuff and I came across this and I was like, that would be a good episode. And I wanted chaps because the main guy in this story other than FDR is a guy named Smedley Butler. War's a Racket. So chaps, were you familiar with Smedley Butler prior to this? Camp Smedley Butler for really four and a half years. Wow. I have a book. Yeah. War's a Racket. Smedley Butler, unbelievable leader. One of only he two Medal of Honors. There's not many in history that have ever done that. And he's actually the only one of only two Marines. The other one I have tattooed on my arm, John Bacillon. Or no, John only only one of one. Smedley, I think is the only one that got two. But he was an unbelievable leader. War, War, One. The V the V the VA as it exists does not exist without really Butler. Without a doubt, because they he went and had like a big to do on the steps of the Washington Capitol complaining about how what people were promised after World War One when they came back and they weren't getting it. And he went to he actually ran for president like to ensure that people would get what they wanted. And that's why when he came back, everybody did what they were asked to in World One and companies got richer and War's a Racket. War's a Racket. Yeah. So he between World War One and World War Two was like the most famous and beloved military person in the country, probably, at least among other military members. Like they all loved him. Yeah, he's a God. Yeah, he's a badass. Yeah. So Teddy Roosevelt called him the ideal American soldier. And over the course of his career, he received the Army and Navy Distinguished Service Medals, the French Order de la Toile Noir, whatever that is. And then distinction ensured his place in the Marine Corps, Pantheon, earning the Medal of Honor twice. So very famous military figure. And in 1934, this guy named Gerald Maguire, who was a Wall Street guy, he dealt with the money. Yeah, he dealt in bonds and all sorts of stuff. He had been all over Europe and he was in France and Italy and Germany under Hitler and he just kind of liked the way those countries ran under those leaders. Big fascist guy. Yeah. So he came back to America under FDR and was not thrilled with the new deal and things that FDR was doing. So his idea was, I'm going to go to Smedley Butler, this guy who every troop in the United States would die for. And we're going to get him to lead a coup more or less. So he goes to Smedley Butler and is like, listen, so we've, he and a group of investors that may or may not have involved the Dupont family. JP Morgan. Yep. Potentially. There's no proof, but there is speculation that, what is George Bush's dad's name? H.W. Herb Walker. Prescott Bush. Prescott Bush. H.W.'s dad. He was potentially among this group as well. And they had amassed this amount of money. They pulled it all together and they went to Smedley Butler and were like, listen, you're going to, they wanted him to give a speech here in Chicago and I believe the American Legion, you know, gathering your annual, whatever. And they were like, we want you to get a group of guys that would kind of help us facilitate this overthrow of FDR more or less. The business plot. Right. And so, so they thought Smedley Butler would be on board with him and he instead kind of just went to Congress and was like, hey, this group of guys wants to try to overthrow your president. You should probably do something about that. And late in 1935, Butler went further declaring in an article for a radical magazine, quote, only the United Kingdom has beaten our record for square miles of territory acquired by military conquest. Our exploits against the American Indian, against the Filipinos, the Mexicans in Spain are on par with the campaigns of Genghis Khan, the Japanese in Manchuria and the African attack of Mussolini. So he had been all over Central America and in Honduras and Nicaragua and all these different places kind of extending the American footprint. And he was very averse to that and was really not on board with this plan. And so they thought they were going to run an offshoot of the American Legion called what they want to call it, the Liberty League. The Liberty League was announced on August 23rd, 1934 on the front page of the New York Times. The article quoted its founders claim that it was a nonpartisan group whose aim was to combat radicalism, preserve property rights, uphold and preserve the Constitution. So they wanted Butler to lead that group, which would then hopefully amass a military following at which point they could try to overthrow FDR. So basically, like we're going to start a civil war here. Yeah. And I don't even know. I think they were kind of hoping it'd be over quick. Yeah. Like that they could just kind of take it because every military member would would follow Butler rather than Butler. Yeah. They bet on the wrong horse. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And this seems like something that people would have heard about at some point. And yet really buried in there. I feel like most people don't even know about Smetley Butler in general. I didn't. Yeah. I mean, he's, you know, if you're in the Marines, I'm sure you hear about him. But yeah, he's probably one of three top that you hear. Chesty, John Basilon, Smetley. Yeah. No, it's crazy. Like the 30s just seem like sneaky, like the wildest time in human history or in recent recent history, because you had like, you had the Great Depression. You had all the stuff with, you know, people returning from war. You had like the Hoover Villes. You had prohibition in the rise of, you know, people like Al Capone and things like that. Then you had like the buildup to World War Two where like fascism and Nazism and communism, these are all like very popular ideas kind of globally to the point that it's in 1939, there was a rally, a Nazi party rally in Madison Square Garden sold it out. 20,000 people showed up being like, yeah, Hitler's onto something with what he's doing over there. So it's just like, it feels like that was like a big inflection point where it was like very, you had a lot of ideas converging at the end of kind of the industrial revolution. And then World War Two happens and it all kind of goes away. But that was like a very, like, I don't know, like a tipping point for the world. Like it could have gone a wildly different direction to have like openly 20,000 people attending a Nazi rally just feels like the most insane thing ever. And it was at Madison Square Garden. And it's interesting that World War Two was such a rallying point. Whereas now, I mean, hell, we might be going into a war. It doesn't seem like there's any war that would, I mean, short of a Pearl Harbor or a 9-11 or something like that, forcing us into something. I don't think there's anything that would galvanize America militarily, like that would get people all along pulling in the same direction. Yeah, I feel like people maybe had more or less suspicion in the government back then. And like there is more of like, I feel like, I don't know. I don't know if it was less suspicion of the government, certainly more of a nationalistic, you know, patriotism. Yeah, but I think I think at post 9-11, it was, you know, everybody was like all united. And but even that's a very different world. No, I know. But I think if something horrible like that happened now, I don't think you would have the same response from the American people. I think people will be like, what's this about? Yeah. Oh, I agree. I feel like you, a vast majority of the population then thought it was a very unprovoked attack. Correct. I don't feel like people would see it and assume that it was an unprovoked attack. Exactly. That's that's that's what I'm trying to say. That was a much better way to say it. We have people say that. Yeah. About what? About like America deserve 9-11 and things like that. You see that now. That was not a thought. Correct. But I'm saying you have people that are saying. That that one aren't old enough to remember what it was actually like and what actually happened. It's hindsight bias with the last 25 years thrown in and mixed in. Right. And you're developing an opinion over that time. But I feel like that's the difference is. Yeah. Unprovoked versus provoked. Correct. But so I'm saying if something happened like that now, there would be that in the immediate aftermath. The immediate would be, I think you would see a lot more. We deserve this. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. For sure. Yeah. Because like the way that. And I don't know if you would. I don't know if it's really that different in how we're playing around the world. It's just that the way that we're doing it is so much more like obvious. And I think people are more aware. People. I think people are more aware of our foreign policy missteps because it's been on TV and the social media has been a game changer for people connecting dots and seeing right how this has impacted that. Yeah. And then you look back and it's like it goes all the way back, you know, kind of to World War One, but with our involvement, it's like, oh, wait, like. We got rid of it democratically elected guy in Iran and put in like our, you know, it's all like the Allen Dulles CIA stuff. They were just like, oh, like we've been fucking around for a hundred years now. So it's like, what is the actual cause of this? But it's like I was 15 when 9 11 happened. And it did feel like, you know, the narrative was they hate us because of our freedom and they're like, oh, well, fuck you. Like, you know, like we we love the way we live. And it was never like a conversation about like what were the motivations? Why do people hate us abroad? And it was just like they don't like us because, you know, we had like women at freedom and, you know, whatever. That's just like a cold. They made it like a culture war. And that the freedom thing is crazy. Like the way that that was always like for our generation, like it basically felt like we were the only country that was right. And now like you get older and you're like, wait, yeah, lots happen. What? Yeah. The same time. Right. And in fact, more and probably more. And so yeah, in lots of cases, lots of cases for sure. Even the heritage, the very, very conservative group is like, we're probably like about 28 29. Yeah. Is that right? Yeah. Like they even say it. Yeah. Look that up. What is it? Who's one? The Heritage Foundation. And it's always like the Norways and Sweden, Finland's of the world. So here's index of economic freedom from the Heritage Foundation. They have Singapore one, not sure Singapore is like they have the strongest passport in the world. Really? Like like as far as respected and worked with widely Singapore is one for sure. And then you have like most members of the European Union would be up there as well. They have Singapore, Switzerland, Ireland, Australia, Taiwan. Is there like that's economic though? Yes. That's what I saw when I. So I'm on the actual website for it now and they have it broken into different things. They have an overall score, which North Korea ranks dead last. Cuba is right behind Venezuela, Sudan, whatever. But Singapore, Switzerland, Ireland, Australia, that's for the overall score. Property rights scores, Finland, Denmark, Norway, Luxembourg, Sweden, Netherlands, Austria, like we're not even we're slightly behind Lithuania when it comes to property rights, government integrity. We are behind Belgium for that. We got a score of seventy seven point one. I don't know what these scores are based off of. So you want me to just rip through the top until we get to United States? For which? Like for the overall score. Sure. At Singapore, Switzerland, Ireland, Australia, Taiwan, Luxembourg, Denmark, Norway, Estonia, Netherlands, Sweden, New Zealand, Finland, Canada, Lithuania, Iceland, Chile, Cyprus, South Korea, Czech Republic and then the United States. You skip Mauritius. Huh? Skip Mauritius. Oh, yeah, I did skip Mauritius. Is that how that's pronounced? Yeah. M-A-U-R-T-I-U-S. You know where that is. It's in Africa, right? You know where? To islands, right? Indian Ocean. Yep. It's off the coast of Madagascar. I feel like I must have skipped the United States on the tax burden part, but I'm still scrolling. Tax burden. We're pretty. What tax burden? The seventy five is where we're at. So when you go tax burden, UAE is number one at ninety nine point nine. That means like no taxes. No, that means the most taxes. Oh, the EU has significant taxing. What's their taxes looking like? Usually, like if you like it's 40 percent is the for middle class. Damn, Denmark might be the place to be then. I'm seeing you. Denmark is always ranked number one as far as like government or like citizen happiness as well. Yeah. So they they rank highest in property rights. Government integrity, they're very, very high. Judicial effectiveness, they could be higher. And then other than North Korea, they have the lowest tax burden and then government spending is the last category. UAE has no income tax. That's right. So then how do they have the most taxes? Huh? You said they have the most taxes. Who Denmark? I said UAE did. Yeah. That's why I thought you said the EU. No, UAE. Oh, no, I know Europe. You're taxed. Oh, so then Denmark does. I misheard you. I thought you said the EU. Yeah. So then Denmark has the highest tax burden on their citizens and they have the lowest score. Yes, that makes sense. Yes, because they have they have free college, they have free healthcare. They have like maternity, paternity leave for 52 weeks. Well, and that was our guy, Murals. So he finishes career playing hockey in Sweden and met his wife there. And I think they're moving back or have moved back, but they had like three kids. They would have a kid do the maternity leave right up until the threshold. Pregnant again, have a kid right up. And then it's like three years. And then so they had like three kids in nine years or something like that. And they're like, all right, we've exhausted the system back to America. So I think he's I think he's moving upstate New York. But they it's just like a policy that's put in place because their birth rate was so low, they wanted to encourage people to have more kids. So they just remove the burden. They do a lot like hungry did that too. Like, yeah, they give you a hundred thousand dollar grant. You can apply for a hundred thousand dollar grant. And if you have one kid, you can pay back interest free over the course of 30 years. If you have two kids, you can repay it over the course of 20 years, like or something like they add more time. And then if you have three kids or more, then they completely waive it, you don't have to pay it back because they want more kids. So they have a lot of big benefits for having children there. But the thing is, it's targeting like poor people more so because that incentive is not effective to like the richer class. And a lot of people say that that is by design because they want to have more people with lower SCS scores, lower and so continue to vote in a certain way. Huh. Targeted. Interesting. Yeah. But yeah, we're we're not doing great. No, you a tax policy sounds good to me. No personal income tax on salaries or private income. Five percent value added tax to most goods and services. Nine percent federal corporate tax. Yeah, all you got to do is just completely nationalize all of the year of your natural resources like oil and use that money to for good. I mean, we could definitely do that. But BP and Exxon would have a big issue. With that. Dedication isn't born in the light of day. It's carved in the quiet hours before the world blinks awake. At Boris, we rise with a mission to deliver craftsmanship worthy of your table. A slice of something special folded into every moment worth savoring because dedication means delivering only the very best. Forced, committed to craft since 1905. But just back to the the business plot, I find we don't really have. Military leaders like that anymore in that the the public doesn't you know, know these people. Whereas in the 20th century, you had Butler, you had Douglas MacArthur, who like people kind of wanted to try to overthrow the government. And at a certain point, like he was pushed out by Hoover. No, Hoover was before MacArthur. Who fired MacArthur? MacArthur. Well, MacArthur was fired. It would have been in the 40s because he was that he was like the general in charge of the Korean Truman Truman. So Truman fires Douglas MacArthur. Well, MacArthur was like because MacArthur at that time, the generals had the authority to launch nukes. And they were like he was thinking about doing it in the Korean War. So then they like change the policy and like you got to go. If if MacArthur, if people had done this with MacArthur, like people wanted MacArthur to try to like become president and try to. Yeah, that in the way, maybe not overthrow the government, but he had a massive support. Pretty common, though, and like for it and it hasn't happened yet with like the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, but their Schwartzkopf was like super popular. Colin Powell was super popular. Eisenhower got elected. Ulysses S. Grant. Like there's like throughout American history. Jackson. Yeah. The major Washington. Well, that's what I'm saying. The major players in history. It just hasn't happened in this current environment. But I could see that that taking place for sure. We're just getting to the age now where people that are in the war on terror are popping up like they're certain. What's his name from fucking Arizona? Ruben Gayeo is like getting more popular as a senator. And he's like an anti-war guy because he fought there. The Graham Praner dude from Maine. Like you have certain people that are getting more and more popular. Dan Crenshaw, probably the biggest bag fumbler for that because he has like the look and the demeanor. And but it turns out he's a fucking idiot. But those guys are we're all just like pretty regular soldiers, right? Not. Yeah. Not like generals. Yeah, like the generals. One. I feel like for the general, you have to have a big win in that. Yeah, that's true. The biggest ones that came from that class, Mattis would have been one, but he never had like those political aspirations. John Kelly was the chief of staff the first time. Stanley McChrystal never really did anything political, right? He was involved a little bit, but not nearly as much as the other guys. John Allen, a Marine general as well, whose son was killed. Petraeus. Like Petraeus, but he fucked it up by leaving classified information. Yeah. So we had some of those big generals, but nobody has. Yeah. Baldic. General Baldic was he was one of the first special forces guys that was on the ground in Afghanistan actually rode horseback in. No shit. Yeah, they rode horseback in. But he turned out to be like a fucking lunatic. OK. And we never really had like a unless I'm blanking on somebody like a viable presidential candidate who was a Vietnam War veteran either. And maybe it's the same thing. John McCain. Like he talking about. John McCain. John McCain. Pretty big one. That was an oversight. Rest in peace. John McCain. Yeah, but I guess he ran. What? How many times did he run? Twice. As you ran against Bush in 2000 and then just so wait, that was it. He didn't run before that in the 90s. He might have. Those are the two big ones. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And I suppose John Kerry, too. Yeah, John Kerry. Maybe the most done dirty of any veteran I can remember in a long time. I see you're talking about swift bolts or whatever. I don't really know about that. He actually got shot. So like the thing with the Purple Heart, the Purple Heart is not like a buddy. Like you can put your buddy in. Like if me and you were in the same unit, I outrank you. I could write a glowing report for you to get you like a bronze star or something like that. He did this. I can really exaggerate it to get a Purple Heart. It's comes from a medical doctor. Yeah. Like the doctor has to identify that you got injured in combat. Like for me, like I have awards for bravery. So like a like a man with a V, they have to get witness statements. They have to like do all kinds of research. You have to have multiple people that saw all the things that I did. Multiple people vouch. They have to write out these paragraph long, like give the situation was hazardous duty pay, all of that. It took months for that award to get finalized. I had a Purple Heart in the system by the time I left the hospital because it's that automatic. Yeah. For the most part, there is some people that could it could take a long time, but like 95 percent of Purple Hearts are not that way. OK. Yeah, it was McCain just 2000, 2008. Yeah, I was I was there. One of my favorite memories is being at the debate in Long Island of President Obama, then Senator Obama and John McCain. I was there with a big ass dog. Santos's name, Czechoslovakian shepherd weighed like 150 pounds. Massive. And I was standing behind the debate stage where McCain and Obama were going to come out to the sides and John McCain goes, that's a big dog. And I was like, yeah, he's like, I've been around the military for a long time. I think that's the biggest working dog I've ever seen. And it was the biggest one I had ever seen, too. I was like, yeah, he's a big boy. And he was like, can I pet him? And I was like, no, Senator, you can't. And Barack Obama goes, well, I'm not going to ask the same question. I don't want to pet him. That's a big dog. So but he was always really cool with them, too. Like both those guys were awesome. That was a fun, fun thing to do. Yeah, part of. I was just curious. I was looking at the 2000 Republican primaries. So Bush, obviously, one ran away with the delegates. McCain got a few. There was only one other guy who received delegates. I've never heard of this guy. Do you know who it was? I do. And that's who I voted for. Really? I well, maybe not delegates. I'm surprised. Mike Huckabee. Mike Huckabee definitely ran into that's who I voted for. I'm only seeing that there were. I thought he was a way voted for Mike Huckabee. That was my first for my first presidential election. Really? I could have sworn he was. I'm only seeing one other guy that got delegates. His name is Alan Keyes. Oh, black guy. Yeah, yeah. Assistant Secretary of State for International Organization Affairs. When did Mike Huckabee drop out? That's who I voted for in the primary. 2008, right? No, because it was before I went to Iraq. I don't know. I'm just he must he must not have made it to the end. So it's 2008. Huckabee. Yeah. I know he ran before that. Mike. He ran in eight and 16 is what I'm showing. Yeah, I'm not seeing anything in 2000. He won seven states in 2008. Maybe it was 2008. Shit. But I've misremembered who I voted for first. Then who could it have been? Alan Keyes. Devlin wasn't Alan Keyes. Were you able to vote in 2000? How old are you? 18. You're 18. OK. Well, then I've misremembered this. I've told this story 20 times. It might be inaccurate. That's surprising to me. You're wrong. No, because I mean, I definitely would have voted before then. I remember voting for Bush before I went to Iraq. So that was either 2000 or 2004. 2004. OK. Who was the Republican guy in 2000? That was the list that you just said. Alan Keyes. The list withdrew during primaries was John McCain, Bush, Steve Forbes, Gary Bauer, Orrin Hatch, who is the center from Utah, Lamar Alexander, Pap Yucannon, Herman Kane, Elizabeth Dole, John Kasich from Ohio, Dan Quayle ran guy from the Hampshire named Bob Smith. Shout out Bob Smith. Shout out Bob Smith. Yeah. All right. Well, that's not who. But I just want to on the record, I did, in fact, vote for Mike Huckabee, which I think may be the most shocking fact about it is a shocking. I still can't tell if you're doing a bid or not. I mean, I went to Southern Baptist Seminary, dude. He was a two term governor from Baptist Minister, who was the governor of Arkansas. He was my guy. Wow. Super against abortion. I was all in. What was your first election that you voted Democrat in? Um, probably when I voted Obama on the second one, I voted for McCain in 08. And then I voted for Obama in 12 over Romney. Yeah. And that's just because I like had worked with President Obama and saw like how much he actually cared about what was going on in the world. I thought that he had done a really good job. So that's who I voted for. That's fascinating because I think in the last 10 to 15 years, the the switch that people made was like, like Trump got a lot of Obama voters. So I think there's people who went that way, but you made the switch before that. There was absolutely nothing that would have made me vote for Trump ever after he said, no, I know, but I'm just saying I'm saying because of even before, like politics involved, based on what he said about John McCain, like when he got captured, like that, that was immediate disqualification for me forever. Like just that alone, the level of disrespect that it takes to talk shit about somebody's service who was legitimately hung by meat hooks for hours at a time, for months at a time, both of his legs broken, six and a half years in the Hilton, like to me, that was a disqualifier. I'm just saying I'm curious how many McCain voters Obama got. I bet I bet I bet you, Obama got a ton of Bush voters. You think? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, the way that how the war was going and the surge, like in people just wanting something just totally different. I feel like that's the swing of politics. After eight years, you're going to get something insanely different. And also, that was right at the time of the mortgage crisis, too. Oh, seven, oh, eight, oh, nine. So like, like that was that I think there are a lot of people who probably voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004. The war is going terrible. The economy is a disaster. He had the Katrina thing that they're like probably like, fuck this guy. And they swing over to Obama and he wins in a landslide. Yeah. Yeah, that's an interesting voting history. It's interesting, like personal development history, too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like the things that I thought have changed as I've gotten older. Yeah, I didn't I wasn't always a super live. Did Huckabee get close? I think he was like in second. Yeah. Yeah, I think he won Iowa. If I recall, I saw that he won New Hampshire. Yeah, McCain won 37 Huckabee won eight. Romney won 11. In where Iowa? Just like contests. Oh, oh, contest over. Are there now that adds up to 56. So I guess it is like Puerto Rico and all that, I guess they throw in there. I would doubt it. I don't know. It says Contest 1 37 11 and eight. Maybe the two main ones like the main one, main two. And then you have like Nebraska, Nebraska split. But do they do that at the primary level, too? Are they split? I don't know. It was McCain and then Huckabee had a few more delegates than Romney, but Romney won more contests and had more popular votes. OK. And then Ron Paul had almost nothing. I like Ron Paul. I like Ron Paul. I still like Ron Paul. There was there was that one thing that was a document leaked in the Epstein files where he was basically talking about all the presidential candidates and someone someone searched Ron Paul. It's like, yeah, like we can we got all these guys, except for that fucker, Ron Paul. Yeah. So it's like the one guy who can't be corrupted. I had no idea until recently that Rand Paul didn't graduate from college. I thought he was a doctor. He left Baylor University and went to like before he graduated. And back in the day, you could do that. Duke had a provision that if you got in and you passed a certain level of test and you had people that vouch for you could get in. So he is a doctor from Duke University who never got a bachelor's degree. Did not know that. Isn't that crazy? It is crazy. I mean, I guess if you take the MCAT and, you know, I mean, it's not that crazy comparatively to the rest of the world, the rest of the world doesn't do that. Like if you're you can go straight to dental school and be a dentist, that is your college. Like you can like there's a lot of other countries that you can do that where you don't need to go. That's why it's harder for other people to go to different colleges overseas and then come here because they don't meet a lot of the criteria. Could you not theoretically still do that? Like if you just if you go to college for a little while and then you're like, I'm way smarter than this and you take the MCAT and kill it. I'm sure that there might be schools. I'm not aware of any schools that would do that. But yeah, there definitely is as far as like the bar. Like you don't have to go to law school to be a lawyer in Texas. You pass the bar, you could do it. There are certain things that you can't do. Like there are certain aspects of law that you can't practice, but you can go be like a public defender. You can do a lot of law without going to law school. You don't have to be a lawyer. Kim Kardashian was trying to do it. Yeah, true. You don't have to be an elected member of Congress to be the Speaker of the House. I found that went out more recently. Yeah, I'm finding it out right now. Yeah, he becomes Speaker of the House. They vote for you. Just the people in Congress. Because remember a couple years ago, I guess it's when Johnson ended up becoming the Speaker. They were trying to get somebody who wasn't Trump. They were they had floated the idea that Trump could go be the Speaker. Yeah, is that what it was? That is what it was. Yeah. They had that there was talks about Michelle Obama at one point, like our country is just ridiculous. Just totally unserious. We know that name. Yeah. All right. Well, is that all we got gang? I just thought the the potential overthrow of FDR was an interesting yeah, early that I'd never heard before early into his presidency, too. Also bring back cool names like Smedley. Yeah, what happened to that name? Yeah, you would think that that was it's not a great sounding name. Smedley. That sounds like it it lasted in middle names for a little while longer. And then eventually you just get rid of it. Yeah. That's like when you're when you have someone's last name as a middle name. It's like, oh, why do you have that weird name? It's like, oh, it's my mom's maiden name. That's how it that's how it continues. Yeah. I wish my so I'm named after my grandfather on my dad's side. My dad and my grandfather, Matthew Mitchell, Catherine. And I wish that I was named after my mom's dad because his was ready for it. Sanford Roscoe. Damn. Roscoe. I would be in Rosley Roscoe. Roscoe is a good name. I also feel like that's a good dog name. Roscoe. Excellent dog name. Yeah, we actually almost if Lady May was a boy, we would have named her Roscoe. Really? Yeah. Because I live not far from Roscoe Village. I think if I got a puppy when I lived in Roscoe Village, I would just name him Roscoe. Yeah. And my grandfather, Roscoe was a propane salesman, had polio, hopped around all over the place and almost had to go into an iron lung when he was little. Ended up being my longest surviving grandparent. Really? Like 88. Damn, it's a good life. After having like polio as a young kid. Yeah. Would go around on a little rascal scooter, had a radio show, actually. Those shit. And local small town, Florida, Palacka, Florida, had a radio show on Saturday mornings where people would call in and ask him questions about plants, like vegetables and like, oh, I'm having trouble with my crepe myrtles. What could I do? And he would give you like little tips on how to take care of your. Shit. And he had like his he would take his little rascal scooter and put the buckets that had like the clippings that he would make and he would put him on his rascal scooter, go from his backyard to his front yard and sit out there on like Sunday, Saturday afternoons and sell them to different people for like three bucks. Damn. Yeah. Legend. You don't get lives like that anymore. No, you don't. No. Him and Nana, they had two matching lazy boys. Pretty sure both of them were on the spectrum too, but they had the same exact lazy boys that they would watch every single Braves game together. Damn. And they like had the same light on both sides of their chairs, same chairs. Every single day that I can remember, they had the same exact lunch. They had a fret. They only my Nana would go to the grocery store if there was bread in the house that was older than two days. She would not eat bread that was older than two days old. Would get shaved ham from the same exact spot. Nice. He would use the spicy mustard. She would use regular. They would both have half and half tea, like half to caffeinated, half caffeinated tea, and they would watch all the Braves games together and they would hold hands the first two innings and then they would go on their separate way. That's so cute. That's a genuinely big tease. That's love. No, yeah, I. Yes. Eat the same thing every day. Lots of Braves. My own share. Yeah. No, that's exactly. Oh, and they had they would eat. She would eat regular Rice Krispie cereal with cut up banana in it. He would eat raisin bran and then they would come back to the kitchen at 10, 15. Legitimately, I'm not kidding. Every day that I can remember my life, 10, 15 to eat, have a small cup of coffee and a cookie together at the at their table. 10, 15 p.m. 10, 15 a.m. Oh, OK. I was cookie time mid midday cookie. I love that. Then you're having their lunch at 11 o'clock. I am. That rocks. Yeah. You'll appreciate this as a 90s viewer of the Atlanta Braves. Have you seen the new the new theme song for the the new TV channel? So the Braves broke off from their they have their own TV channel now. OK. They're their own station and the theme is like a remix of the 90s TBS song. It's pretty cool. They could if they did that, they could bring me back in the fold. Yeah, you should go look it up. Because I don't know that I'm the only reason why I cared about the Astros was because I lived close and it was the one that was on TV. And my kid was interested in watching. But they could the Braves could get me back. But I'm also open to moving again to the Cubs or the White Sox. Don't like the White Sox. The White Sox would be easy and great just because it's so cheap. Yeah. And it's like super easy to get to for my see what they do with the stadium. If they put the stadium in that one's in the 78th, I think they'll be cool. But the soccer stadium is being built there, right? So there is it goes soccer stadium, river, train tracks. The guy, Jason Ishvia, who's like the heir, he's going to eventually buy out Jerry when Jerry goes just bought all that land. And the thinking is that he bought it for the future. So it would be even closer to downtown? Significantly. OK, that'd be cool. Yeah. So and like you would if they already at the stadium, right? Like you could hit home runs on the river. You could hit like you'd have balls disappearing into the skyline. Well, yeah, it should be the other way. Right. Be facing the skyline. Yeah. So well, that and like if you were where the soccer field is, you couldn't really orient it that way. So you could hit balls in Skyline, but just moving it across the river helps with that something with like the where the sun sets or something. I was reading an article about it. So like it's actually a better spot. Still an active Amtrak train depot. So they'd have to just do something about that. But that's that's what they're thinking. They'll put the baseball stadium across the river from the soccer stadium. And it'd be like this whole complex down there. Who's riding trains in Chicago? A lot of people. I don't know about Amtrak trains. Yeah, I'm not talking about the subway. Yeah. I think Amtrak is a good amount. Yeah, going from the city to the burbs. Yeah, we're like that's the. That's the. That's the. Oh, the Amtrak. Yeah. I'm saying like who's taken Amtrak from Chicago to, you know, it goes to like Atlanta or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, it goes to Cleveland. Northeast is the only place I've encountered people who use Amtrak because it's efficient up there and it makes sense. And people don't have cars. Yeah, I think it's a good option to have in Chicago. But I think you can go out of Miami on it from Chicago. Really? Florida has a train now that's supposed to be good. The Bright Line, it goes. I'm not sure where all it goes, but it's supposed to be a good train. It's only in Florida. There's a train that I want to take that's from actually from Chicago to San Francisco and you go through like the northwest of the United States. They have one that goes all the way up like through Canada, too. Yeah, you could take it like, you know, through the through their Canadian planes to their Canadian Rockies and then you end up in like Vancouver. I'm a big train guy. I'm going to ride the train when I'm in. I'm going to Amsterdam taking the squad there. My family in June. It'll be fun. I had good travel this year. Yeah, you really have. Yeah, Budapest, Copenhagen, Amsterdam. I'm going to go to Arkansas, Gint, Arkansas, Columbia next month for a week, staying in a hostel for the first time. You know, look for any bluffs down there? Look for. Yeah. Bluff my dick off. Yeah. What's in Columbia other than the obvious? I just find it to be an interesting place. I want to go to like all the old barrios and I'm going to go out like the hostel that I'm staying at. You can they have all these different tours that they do every day. And you can go like four hours outside of Medellin. Like you could do all kinds of things like the I'm going to go to a trip. So little trip going to go to a coffee farm. And they have like this spa where they like rub you down with Colombian coffee. Sounds nice. And you can bring it home. You can roast your own. Like there's like there's so many things that look unbelievably interesting around that area. I was torn between Peru, Colombia and Chile and decided to go with Columbia. I've always wanted to go to Chile. Yeah, I go now. I do too. I do too. One day I'm trying to go somewhere out of the country at least every six weeks this year. That Jesus Christ. That's a lot. Yeah, I've saved up a shit ton of miles. So I'm just firing those off and just waiting. And like I go to Google Flights, my whole process is go to Google Flights and search the next six months, the cheapest flights for a seven day period and whatever pops up as the cheapest. That's where I'm going. That's it's quite the life. So I think in August, I think I'm going to go to the Philippines, either Philippines or Vietnam. How much is a flight to the Philippines? Eight hundred. That's it. If you search it that way. Yeah, like if you look for a specific date, it's going to be expensive. But if you're willing to go and I don't need to carry on, I don't even need to carry on like in these spots that I'm going, I'm doing everything in a backpack. OK, so I'm like, I got these pants that are super thin, but they're for hiking. So you're not going to get like burrs and shit. And you can roll those up really tight. I'm going to bring three pairs of pants, like four shirts wash while I'm there. Or like textiles are so cheap in a lot of these places that you could just buy. Sure. Yeah. That you're there like August. I'm going to bring a couple of shorts and travel really light. Only make reservations for three days, even though I'm there for seven and to see what's going on everywhere I go that day. I don't need to go back to the hotel that I was at. That's kind of my plan. That's awesome. Love that. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, boys, for joining today. Any time. Uh, yeah. So next week, I know we'll have PFT back. I think we'll have Aaron back. I don't know. It's golfing. Also, let me plug an interview that we have. When is this coming out tomorrow? OK, so Monday, the episode that we do with on drop a pin is with dude, Seal on tour, who's probably my favorite YouTuber. He went to Papua, Indonesia, not not New Guinea, but he stayed with cannibals. And Jesus, he like described like what it was like being with the cannibals there. And he was also in the hotel that got hit by the Iranian drone went in when he was like getting ready to go to Oman. And so he had to stay in Dubai for like another four or five days. And he told us about that. And it really cool interview. Can I ask you a quick question? Sure. I saw a video of a press guy in I think it was Israel somewhere in the Middle East and a rocket landed like 50 feet from him. And he seemed to be fine. How how direct of a hit do you have to take to like? Depends on the type of munition. So like there's some munitions that are impact that aren't necessarily going to explode. He just got fucking lucky that he didn't die. But like different types of munition have different types of explosion. So like you can have a mortar round that acts like a grenade or you can have like an RPG that's around the same exact size that does a completely different type of damage. So the type of bullet, the type of round, the type of munition makes a huge difference. So you can have one that's designed to take out a building that might not necessarily explode into shrapnel. OK. Yeah, that makes sense. Like a blunt force versus an explosion. Right. All right, cool. Thank you, guys. We will be back next week. Goodbye. Have you heard it teams everywhere are leveling up their meeting room game with short video conferencing? Easy integration, less work for it, smoother meetings. Sure. Built for collaboration. Learn more at shur.com slash collab. Have you heard it teams everywhere are leveling up their meeting room game with short video conferencing? Easy integration, less work for it, smoother meetings. Sure. Built for collaboration. Learn more at shur.com slash collab.