1158: Seven Tied after Thursday at the PGA

Music Be the right club, be the right club today Music Now that's better than most How about in? That is better than most Better than most Music Expect anything different Music Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Lang Up podcast. The No Lang Up live show. My name is DJ. We got a great one for you tonight presented by our friends at Titleist. Gentlemen, out from Aronamink. We had a great day out there. So how are we doing? I'm doing great. That was one of the most enjoyable non-masters major championship days I've ever had walking around the grounds. I mean, it was just a delightful temperature, delightful energy, delightful fans, some good golf, some bad golf. A lot to talk about tonight, but that was a tank filler. It was a delight. That's the word I would use. Neil, would you use that word? It was a challenge. I was kind of the shiver boy out there, Deej. I was wearing shorts and I feel like some of these guys were shivering a little bit. You're cold-blooded, man. You run cold. A little bit, but I was impressed with how the course held up. It was fun to watch these guys sweat it from the rough and struggle to get it close to the hole. And then even the lag putting, which feels like it's on autopilot most of the time for these guys. I feel like there was a lot of hard two-puts out there, which isn't a recipe for like, you know, like exciting golf, but it's, if you're watching, it gets very interesting over the course of the day. Proper golf, I think. And speaking of proper golf, T C, let's just get right, right into what the hell you're wearing. We've got a clique at the top of the leaderboard. Martin Kimer. I mean, to be fair, most of the field is at top of the leaderboard right now, but you're just dressed head to toe and clique gear. I don't know if you had this ready to rock or what? Yeah. No, I got a, I got a care package today in the mail. Today. The cliques today. It says, thank you for being one of the people who stand with us. 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Before they're gone, no matter what you're looking for in golf shoes, foot joy has you covered. Don't trust your golf game to anyone, but the best guys traffic jam. We've got a log log jam up there at top. We have a seven talk about the shuttle. Deige, we're not, let's talk about the golf. Please stick to the golf guys. We've got a seven way tie for the lead at the PGA championship. Aldrich potgater, Stephen Yeager, Min Woo Lee, Rio. He's not soon a the weekend. Martin Kimer aforementioned Scotty Schaeffler. Can I blow your guys's minds? You know, this is the first time Scotty's ever led after round one of a major today. How about that? And Alex Smalley also gets it in the house at 67. I believe we have counted 48 people within three shots of the lead coming into the preview show. We kind of had a feeling it might be a little bunched, a little tough to separate. That certainly was proven out today. Let me, let's, before we get into like how the course played, let's just start with that. I think that's a big, a big story. Solid. Why, why is it so bunched? Explain this to me. Um, yeah, really, really, really hard whole locations. I don't know how to answer this question without answering a little bit about the course set up there because it, it, um, I think that is the answer. I don't think I'm trying to think of like an easy pin today. And I don't know if there's one that comes, comes to mind. Like they, they were clearly the sentiment amongst players and everyone that had walked this golf course, anybody that looked, I'd looked at the scorecard that anybody that had been watching golf over the last 10 years was pretty consent. The consensus was strong. This golf course might struggle to hold up. And I think they were a little spooked. Uh, they did a great job with the firmness. The, the rough has played really, really well. And I'll give you some more details on that. You're shortly, but I feel like I don't want to say they maxed out the difficult pins on day one, but I think they're going to have a hard time keeping the foot on the pedal without reusing some of these general locations. Uh, keeping it this difficult throughout. And I don't know if they're going to want to keep it this difficult throughout. I think the, the lone critique on the setup to this point, uh, would be that it wasn't that exciting. There wasn't like a lot of great birdie runs. Like four under was the lowest anybody got at any point today. And I think, um, you kind of want to, you know, what makes the master so exciting are the holes that, you know, you can get out and make some birdies and go on runs and anything can happen. This was like a little bit more of a survival test, but, uh, I, the pins were really hard to get. Get at, and, um, there was just so many like checkpoints there, the par threes, especially other than five, the par threes just all served as a massive speed bump that you had to slow down on the pace really slowed down on those holes. And they were really, really hard to score on. So, um, Like eight was outrageous today, guys. Yeah. How bad was the backup? Well, and it's a 243 yard shot. The winds whipping and, and it's visually intimidating because you got flags everywhere, whipping and these guys are just standing there for 10, 15 minutes waiting to hit. It's, it's a psychological evaluation on AT. Here's how the bad, the backup was TC. We got there. I realized how hungry I was. Uh, I was following the Rory's, uh, free food included with your ticket. Rory experience and Ram group is what I was following. I got the T, you know, the Xander grip. I had to just eat off and I was like, yeah, it's time to go eat. I walked the eighth hole. I cut across nine. I cut across 18, got food, ate it, had to go all the way around 17 T came back and just in time for round to chip in on that. Like it was, uh, it was insane how, how, how bad it backed up right there. But no, it, it, I just think that it was, um, I don't know if I can fully explain the bunched nature of the scoring, but I can, uh, I, I'm surprised by the higher scores. I'm surprised the scores aren't lower based on everything we said kind of leading up to this, but, um, I'm not surprised having just seen it. Those conditions were real. Like it was 55 degrees this morning. The wind was bucked. You know, on, on my app, it was saying it was only like six, seven, eight miles an hour this morning with Gus up to 11 and 12. That was not, uh, definitely not the case. Yeah. Can I ask you guys a question? Randy's not here, but would you think it doesn't really pass the proper test index? Because I think there's two scores in the eighties, but with this many people almost throttled like this kind of, of choke point to nobody can get past three under. Um, what, what kind of test does this pass the proper test index? T.C. I'll send that your way. I know you're kind of riding with Randy on the proper test. I think we need a little bit more data, a little bit more of a sample size here. It's always tough to do the proper test index when you've got the core bridge financial team in the field as well. Just coming things up. Sure. But, uh, no, I definitely agree with the, the part three take of it. It's like DG said it earlier. I think the part three isn't the par fives are all playing like short part fours. They're a little HGH top a little bit. It's a little 17 are definitely. It feels a little artificial or a little, a little bit, uh, manufactured. So, you know, like, like, let's just let the golf course play is like, I think I was almost hoping for more. Excitement and fireworks and stuff today. And it seemed like, you know, I think they've got the course right where they want it with the, it doesn't seem like there's any new moisture in the forecast. Wind should stay up relatively for the next few days. So hopefully we see a little bit more of an ebb and flow and some, some green lights, yellow lights and red lights. I felt like we had a lot of red lights today. Can I say one thing to that though on the par threes in person? I, you walk up to the AT again and it's like 243. Like, man, this is kind of outrageous, but it is a little mesmerizing even watching on TV right before we went live. Like seeing these guys, like JT try to hit that shot in the 17 when he's just gluing it together. That is exciting. You know, the more like after seeing that shot from three or four groups before him, I'm like, Oh God, can he man, he just made bogey at 16. Like, does he have this seven wood in him? Like, I think that's exciting on Saturday or Sunday though. I don't think that's necessarily as exciting on Thursday or Friday when you're trying to get 140 or 150 guys through the golf course. And is there enough? I think that's, I think that's fair. I think to your original question, Neil, about the, the vaunted proper test index. And you know, I'm just an academic. I would hate to, you know, I hate to be slinging arrows here on, on Twitter at Randy's, you know, extensive data set here. But I think the proper test index sometimes shows up at the golf courses where things are like probably getting a little bit more of a, things are like probably turned up a little artificially turned up, like a little outrageous where you've got some like, Oh my God, somebody can make a 12 on this whole type of, there's no 12s out there. There's not even that many doubles out there. There's just a shitload of bogeys. And I think to what you guys are saying, it's like, I think that makes for somewhat, not as much carnage, not as much looking up from your phone. Like, I have to see what's happening next. But I think like lowercase P, I think it's like pretty proper golf. Out there is how I feel to that point. So I made a comment about an hour ago, and I stuck with me is there's consequence to every shot. Like you said it when JT was on 16, hit his drive in the left rough, and then it wrapped his house around the rough didn't get out of the rough. And now he dumps in the front bunker. And at no point you normally he would dump in that front left bunker, which during the practice round, all these guys were practicing from there. So that's clearly in their, you know, strategy books of like front left bunker might be the miss. And then he was still like to that pin. It was like, that's he just earned that bogey with a bunch of just like, oh, you know, none of them were outrageously bad shots. But but there were consequences. And I thought that was well said. Let me that's that's where sorry, I know we're going to get some videos here shortly. But that's where like, again, not to use the V word that just drove me nuts was just like, you could go take a bathroom break during the tee shots. Because it was like, all right, driving the rough or he drove in the fair. It just kind of doesn't really matter. And I was afraid that this course was going to play that way because they would be so far up. We were talking about. Yeah, it took me a second to think what the V word was. I was afraid it was going to play like that. But I was so impressed with how the rough played. And in part because there is fairway with here, right? Like it is not a silly vomit down there and you're going to be in the rough anyways hit it far. It is like, I felt like Scottie was kind of conservative off the tee today and he hit every fairway but one. Jordan Spieth drove it in. Damn it. The experience the experience drove it incredibly well today. And that just felt like it felt like accuracy was a very valuable skill today. And when guys drove it in the rough when Roy was in the rough when Rahm is in the rough, it was just like before you hit the shot, you're kind of looking at it. Like, dude, this isn't this. You're not getting away with this. Like you can make par. That's the thing with the shorter distance. You can make par from the rough with a decent recovery shot and you have a chance to scramble. It's not quite like us open Fescue or open championship Fescue where you're making a bogey in some way. But it is very hard to make birdies from the rough and I I I you can question whether or not this course should host a major. But as far as like what they've done with a very difficult challenge in front of them, PGA of America, I tip my cap to the setup today. I mean, it was it was as good as I think they possibly could have done as close to as good as they could have done realistically. I would agree. I think the course won today. Right. Like I was pleasantly surprised with the run of me. It looked like it was a great spectator experience out there. Great Vista's. You could see multiple holes from one spot. I think six is a great example. Like six looked looked awesome on TV of just watching guys, you know, kind of turn that ball around that corner there and and yeah, some fun, some fun hole locations like you saw. I'm really curious to see what Kerry Hague does with it with an especially tomorrow and Saturday. I think Sunday will be fine. But it's like, all right, what do you do? You keep pushing it all the way here. Do you back off knowing that that there's a little bit of of like more punch and oomph here. You got you got a little room to back off a bit. I think right. I'm I'm totally fine with them kind of starting this way. Backing off on firmness backing off on whole locations because I think the most refreshing part today was just watching greens that actually have slope at them because I think that that was one of the concerns or the criticisms of a lot of Valhalla or a quail hollow is like, there's just not enough interesting slopes and just there's not like that page. There's not a lot going on the greens. Yeah, these greens are awesome. Like there's there's all sorts of and all right, if you're going to leave yourself six to eight footers, like you're going to miss some of those because there's plenty of stuff outside the hole. Xander was talking about hitting like 10 foot putts three feet outside the hole today. Like that's the kind of golf course it is. Let me. Sorry, I know you're into that, but not only that deep like to your point, you see like the way the slopes affected the results of the approach shots like speed. The experience was playing really, really, really well, but it just kind of an iffy approach shot into seven that got on the wrong side of a ridge front right and ended up with a three putt. But it was like you hit the green, but you missed your shot. You missed the approach shot wrong side of the slope and still had a price to pay for that. Like again, a boring version of this would be if you missed 5060 feet away was still a pretty easy two putt and that is not exist out here. That's just again, that's where they I think they kind of nailed it with the whole location today. Let me play two, two videos because I think these both kind of sum up a little bit of what we're talking about. First one from John Rom talking about the setup here. A few people come into this thought the scores would be a lot lower this morning, but obviously three on this way then. So they thought it would be lower. Some people thought the scoring would be lower this morning. You've been out there. What is the biggest difficulty out using the golf course? Yeah. I, you know what I can understand because if you just go by the numbers, some of the fairways are wide. The greens are in crazy firm, but a lot of those fairways are sloped in a way that they play very narrow like 15 today. I thought I was going to be in the fairway undoubtedly and I was off the fairway. Same on tame, same on four. It can easily roll out. Then the rough doesn't look as long as as many other majors, but it's such a thick blade of grass that even when the light looks okay, it catches you so bad. So I can see how in appearance it might be easier, but it's not. You need to play really good golf to shoot lower than three and then on top of that, those paid locations today were good ones. I mean, they're, they're tucked. They're not easy. There was somebody earlier on the week where there was some chatter where people thought 15 to 20 and there was going to win. And I think that got to somebody at the PGA and they did something about it because if the golf course stays like this and keeps firming up, yeah, it's obviously not going to be anywhere near that. I love that. I also love what saw hit the Gala had to say shot 68 today and he, he went a little deeper on the rough. There was a great Ken Brown segment on the feature groups coverage earlier just talking about the variability of the rough and how you don't know what kind of lie you're going to get. Rom kind of alluded to it there too, but I almost think this is one of those unforeseen dubs of moving to May where you have this cold weather climate. The grass doesn't really wake up until a couple of weeks ago and then they hit it with a bunch of fertilizer and you get this spot where it's like you, you don't know if it's going to sit up on like some really lush grass. You don't know if it's going to go all the way down to the bottom and science was talking about that, like particularly around the greens. But I really think it's the rough around the greens. You know, in the fairway, it's pretty patchy. You can get some nice lies. And even if you get a bad lie, mostly greens out here, you can kind of run it up. There's a couple of lies where you're not going to be able to hit the green or even get close, but I'd say, you know, 75% of the time you can at least advance it to the front of the green. So not too big of an issue there and the fairways are fairly generous, even though there's a ton of camber on them, but then the rough around the greens, it's impossible to judge. I practiced so much around the greens the last three days. I mean, that was the probably the main focus of my practice and it's still a completely total educated guess because it's not only like longer short, but a lot of these blades. I'm not sure what kind of I think it's like a blue grass rye mix right now. And it's, I don't know how to describe it, but it's like a unripened banana. It's like so sticky. I haven't played a lot of Northeast golf. So I don't know if I'm, this is a normal grass, but kind of threw me for a loop and it kind of squirts both ways for me like left and right too. So not only is it distance problem. It's a left and right thing with, because you can't see the grain because it always kind of sticks up in the air. So yeah, it's, it's, it's really hard. You'd rather be in a fair or a green side bunker all day. So it's a, it's a fun challenge, but it's really tough to get up and down out of the rough. I think I shot 68 today. It was like, it's not 75. Awesome quote. That was, isn't that great? Dude, you got to read the lies, man. It's all right. Educated guesses, right? You got to evaluate the lie. It's big this week, which is where golf is all about. It really is. And that's where again, it's like, I'm not, it's pretty easy to watch Augusta and watch somebody get to the top of the hill on 15. Be like, is he going to hit it in the water? Not. It's not quite as exciting to be like, is he going to read the lie properly? But it's like, that's what this is. And that's much closer to what, like the margins of what pro golf kind of is on a, on a setup like this. So I, I know that doesn't jump off the page to everybody, but I'm like, if you, if you're willing to look for it and you're willing to kind of zoom in, I think you can see who's doing that well and who's not doing that well. And like why Scotty Shufflers on the top of the leaderboard as well. And I wish I could describe like in detail why I feel this way, but I would say like, I just, I love this combination of fairway, fairway width and the way the rough is playing way more than I did Oakmont last year. Like Oakmont felt narrower and the rough just kind of felt a little look at me a little performative like them doing the whole thing with the mowers where they're fluffing up the rough and it just, I get it. Oakmont just generally felt performative. Yeah, like I get, I get your theme here. It's rough, rough, rough, rough, rough that. And here it's about more than that. It is, yeah, camber the fairway, shape your driver the right way, get your distance right off the tee and making sure your runouts are good on some of these dog legs and or else like that's the thing here too. They don't have a first cut. Like there's no like intermediate cut. It looks like very slightly graduated just off the fairway, but there's no like if you miss the fairway by a foot by you're going to pay a price. It's not like unfindable right, right? A foot off the fairway, but it is like, I was watching Scotty's ball roll out on 15. It was like, Oh, is that going to, is that going to rest up against that collar? Cause that's going to make that shot a lot more difficult. Whereas some golf courses kind of have that first cut where as soon as it gets in that all the announcer say like, Oh, that's fine there, but that's not the case here. I feel like the rough has the, like the right amount of juice. I'll tell you what else has the right amount of juice guys. High noon transfusions. No news to this crowd, but the new high noon transfusions, a certified hit. I had this thing sitting on my desk. I was going to wait for showtime. I cracked it like 20 minutes ago because it's been looking forward to it all day. It's great. High noon is finally brought the number one golf drink into their vodka, seltzer lineup, the transfusion. You go get it now, but not for a long time since they only dropped a limited amount. It looked like you guys got your hands on a, a vaunted case. We found it over at auto. This marks place. Huge. 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I think if you looked at the data golf, you know, scatterplot, it would look a little different. So and maybe that's what introducing the variable of the rough is, which I'm sure you know, I'm actually interested to hear like, for the most part, her JT interview. Hear what ROM says they all seem to have a respect for the course. It's not like, oh, this is, you know, this is bullshit. It's not the vibe. It's like it's hard, but they appreciate that in a way that not these guys normally don't really want to be there. Not these guys normally don't really want to be challenged. I don't know. It's interesting to me. I think some of those guys, I think those best players want to be challenged. They don't want it to be easy. You know, I think like a ramen JT are going to want this golf course to be tough, but fair. Right. And that's again, that's the beauty of this is like, dude, I just don't feel like any of that was unfair. I don't know what's the most unfair thing from today. Some people might say 11, but I would say it was fair. Like it was very specific, excellent question to be asked there of like, well, I saw a lot of guys hit it close there too. Yeah. Very hard pin, but if you, if you played the right shot, a lot of guys had some tap ins. Yeah. The Justin Rose and Scotty group was like a perfect example. Right. Rose ripped it off the front of the green. Scotty watched it, saw exactly how to do it, control the spin perfectly, taps it up there and makes a birdie. Whereas Bryson one hops it over and chips down and it's like tournaments over before it even starts. It's a no, he shot even part of that. Yeah. Straight up. Do you want to, can we do the blocky quote now? T.C. Hell yeah. Blocky shot even par. This is what he had to say. Yourself since 2023 and do these PGA championships feel different for you since that point? I was in the bathroom on. Old 12 or 13 today. And there was no mirror. So I wasn't looking at myself, but I said, you got this. I go, you're actually pretty good buddy. And I just kept going. I'm like, I'm with DJ, one of my idols and guy who looked up to my whole life and Rasmus, who I know is an unbelievable player is like 63 in the world. And they both hit it 50 yards behind me on every single shot. And I'm just going, you got this, bud. You got it. It's cool. It's really cool. It's kind of fun, to be honest. I'm proud of myself for just grinding it through and having fun with the boys. Well, I mean, that's God teach. We got to break down on judge. Just the pensive, the pause at the beginning. It's so good. That's the stuff dreams are made of it. It's kind of like the real life you go out there and you make it about. There's no mirror, but he's pointing at the, the Port of John door. He's like, before he hits that handle, you make it. I'm so in on blog. He's asked a question. You know, he's asked a question. I know. I gave him his own press or new and that's it. It's sincere. I mean, it sounds like he was getting a little choked up there at the end. Good, good on him, man. It's good stuff, but it is, it's, it's like, you know, what's a, he's almost 50 man. He's a pro kicking people's asses. What's the time? Like what's raising Kane? How does he, how does DJ who's like nine, what nine, 10 years younger than him? How does he one end up as one of his idols? I don't know how that works. Don't pick blocky apart. He's out there. He's up there cooking, man. He's up there cooking. Let's do, let's do, let's talk about who's ass he kicked today. He kicked Roy's ass. He kicked Bryce's ass. He kicked Bryce's ass. He kicked Ludwig's ass. Kick Tommy's ass. Both fits. DJ, what about DJ and Rasmus? He kicked their ass. They both shot 72. Yeah. He was 15th and putting. He's, he's a menace. I was in the bathroom. No idea where that was going. That's a guy that's been in a lot of pro aims, a lot of like cocktail parties. I gotta tell you something on the bathroom on 12 or 13. Are you all in the palm of my hand? Okay. Everybody get in. Now there's a little more room. There's a little more room. Everybody get in here. I'm about to play this one. He played the part three's and even part of that. She played the whole fucking course and even part of that. I know, I know, but the part three's especially for him. Yeah, for real. I'm vibing to those parts. Unbelievable, unbelievable birdie on five. I had tears in my eyes watching it. I mean, it was left is like all these guys are just hitting an improver shop, flaring it out to the right, hoping the wind brings it back and blocky. He just, he's got that preview follow through now. He's left himself in the perfect spot and just rolls it in from like 15 feet. He's just old, old man getting buckets. You know, he's got all the shots. He's hit a lot of bank shots. He's got post moves. Just a total changeup. You know, you get to the lane. He's just guys. It's good stuff. I wish Randy was here tonight because he would need to answer for this. What are we going to do if, if blocky finishes what top 10, Randy's got to do something abhorrent, abhorrent. I don't know. You have to go work at raising Cain's. Yeah. I think I'm doing track through raising Cain's. If you're listening, I think Randy will do a shift at the drive-through just like blocky did if blocky finishes top 10 blocky could come through the drive-through. Be one of those people that throws his coke, right? His face or something 55 fries. Stop doing something. I'm doing something. You know what the best part of all of this, if blocky does, you know, grind out another top 20, the pre-week thing was even I was sick of Michael walk. He's going to do the same exact thing all over. For sure. The same media tour all over again. I think some of those outlets are, I don't, I don't know if the Ripper Magoo podcast is still a solvent or not, but I mean, between, between blocky and the whole, what's, what's South African dipshit's name? Gary Kigo between those two things. Absolutely. Day for sure. For sure. AK was out at Pebble Beach. He's got people all over the world. I mean, you guys are team up. Do we want to go Gary Kigo next? Is that so famously under, he should be tied for the lead. He should be tied for the lead. It's going to go down as a one under on the scorecard because he was, he was late to his, his tee time. You've probably seen this by now, but I feel like we got to, we got to cross this off. TC, this was, you flag this. I think this is Shane interaction with Shane Ryan. This is good stuff. We can talk about this on the backside. So just to be a hundred percent clear, when you walked to the tee, it was a surprise to you when they said two stroke penalty. You're late. It wasn't a surprise. I was late. I mean, my caddy was yelling at me to get to the tee. So, okay. So by the time you got there, you already knew that it was like, I knew it was probably going to happen. Yeah. Yeah. You were with the, the PJ, it seemed like for a bit just now, were you trying to argue your case a little bit or? I was just trying to get evidence. I mean, I feel like if any of you would have done the same because it's kind of, I was there on time, but the rule is if you're one second late, you're late. So if you think about it, I was there on time. If you know what I mean, but I don't quite know. No, no, what is it? What did you say that you were there on time? But like, I was there at seven, 18, 30 seconds. And seven, 18 was the tee time. Yeah. Or something like that seven, 19, whatever it was. I don't know. Gotcha. No, no, I want to take this one. Give me this. That's a bit of a nealism because I do see what he's saying. It still said seven, seven, 18 on the clock. Yeah. He's like kind of saying, yeah, come on, seconds, but it's still seven, 18. You know what I'm saying? I was like, yeah, kind of do know what you're saying. The hard part is the way the rule is written is seven, nine, seven, 18 and one second is late. So for him to be like, yeah, no, I know that's the rule. And I was after that. Yes. I was everybody was telling me that I was late. Yes. But. You know, I mean, yeah, it's just, it's very, it's a tough argument with himself going on there. He had like three other interviews where he said similar stuff and it just kept getting worse and worse and worse. The clip I saw, man, it looked like he missed one of his playing partners. T-Daw had already teed off. Yeah. And then he was trying to put it on them. He's like, I asked them if they were uncomfortable with it and they said, no, which is like, well, that's, that's not it either. I'm just, I don't know. I don't want to overreact. I don't want to be old man yelling. Cause he's just standing on the putting green. Yeah. He's right there. He's feet away. It's yeah. Dude, this is stupid. Another interview he said, it's not my job to be 10 minutes early. I was like, wait, we weren't asking you to be 10 minutes early. I'm just like, just be on time for your tea time. Tom Coughlin style stuff. I don't know. It's the party world could use a little more Midwest. If you're, if you're not 10 minutes early, you're late sort of a mentality. It seems like you've taken the opposite time. You should be just throw them off the tour for this kind of shit. Guys. And there, there are instances in pro golf tournaments where like it's hard, like pebble beach is hard to get to the 10th tee. You got to get them. You go like on public streets to get to the 10th tee. And if a shuttle driver gets in traffic, you might be late for your tea time. Like the putting greens right next to the first and 10th tee box. Like I don't know how, how this could possibly happen. But. And then I mean, other side of the coin, he goes out and like probably plays around with his life. Like essentially takes the lead at a major championship. I mean, it's just insane. Like, yeah, I think he's his best finishing a major is like 45th or 46 or something like that. And I mean, he, can you double the first hole? Yeah. I mean, I mean, because of the penalty, but like, yeah, he was starting from down. Yeah. I mean, Neil, like imagine just the, the mental strain that we went through and just think about what happens when like a group behind you catches up. No, I know there's like, Oh, well, I guess I'm done. Like walking to the first tee of a major on Thursdays, like you're, you're two behind Scottie Schaeffler. Like you have to beat him by three. Why do you want to make double solid? First hole freed up before the first hole. He could pit his ears bad. We got to go get two more. All right. We've got 17. That's great. Yeah. It's just, just a whole experience from him today. There's a new answer to that question now. It's like, when do you want to be two over? Yeah. After the first hole is what I would have said, but now it's like, how did he not go to live? He might have been doing the rhino jive. Maybe that's why he was late. It's just rhino jive. It's, it's grow the game over there. I'm a putting green. I'm dying to know if that, that care package you got sent had any potential investor information in there. And any, any final thought, I didn't even think about that. Yeah. Probably trying to. Yasser had your address before. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. Yasser might have had your address before. I feel like he could have, he could attract that down probably. Where you guys want to go next? Do we want to talk timer? I mean, we're talking cliques. The guy, the guy like, yeah, unbelievably good. He had a great quote. I'll get to that in a second. I do want to shout out if, in case you guys didn't see this, he has not had a top 10 at a major in exactly 10 years since the 2016 BJJ. That's no shade. That's just a, he's at that stage in his career injuries, all of that stuff. It's just a Patrick Rogers. That's wild. Still looking for his first top 10. I was, but yeah, I like Patrick Rogers. This is not a personal thing, but I'm scrolling through like, when are we going to start the show? And I see him down at seven over. I'm like, what are we doing, man? How, just totally uncompetitive. Anyways, what was I talking about? Martin Kimer. The last time he was in the top 10, after the first round of a major was in 2020. Not, I mean, six years ago, not 10 years ago. Did you guys know what he shot at Harding Park? He shot 66 in the front in the first round. You know what he shot in the second round? 78. 82. Missed the cut. Proper test index. Yeah. So what, you know, I'm not saying that's going to happen, but that's a bit of a watch this space. Forgive us if we don't maybe get a super analytical until maybe after Friday's round, but. He was too long ago on that start. Cause I think he teed off on 10. Yeah. He was 200 through his first three holes. Yeah. He hit it. Cody and I saw him hit almost jar one on 11 and we couldn't, you know, we were helping on the hill or like, is that max Grazerman? It's like, oh no, oh, that's CLEAK. It was CLEAK slow. That's, that's Kimer. Grazerman also played good today. You mentioned a TC, Kimer had a great, great story after the round. This one was making the rounds as well. On Tuesday evening with the champions dinner. And it was a gentleman sitting next to me from the PGF America. He asked me if I would be, if I still play. And I said, what do you mean? He said, well, are you playing this week? I said, yeah, that's why I'm here. And I'm not flying from Europe to here to have a New York strip with you guys, you know, I, of course I'm playing. And that really motivated me. Um, uh, so it was a good start to the week. Um, again, I really enjoy a Romantic golf course. It's fun to play. And I look forward to, to hopefully have another three good days. Cause I'm a little concerned he needed that motivation. Yeah. What your captain is not motivated to play at live TC. Come on. Yeah. But also like what an unserious organization that, you know, one of their past champions is in the field. I think I asked like nice, nice. Also nice association guys. Kind of an indictment that I mean, Craig Stadler's at the master's dinner. I don't know that he's playing, you know, it's like it, just the idea that anybody would come. I go to the fucking BJ championship champions dinner. We talking about, of course I'm here to play, uh, is a little bit of a backhanded. Uh, you could, you could read that that way. But Kimer, not only did he have one of the great, like underappreciated runs of major championship golf, underappreciatedly thoughtful guy as well. And I remember being at that Pinehurst, US open in 2014. And I mean, he had to come in every day and talk about like, Hey man, you're leading by 26 shots. What's on your mind? What's on your mind? And he's every day brought the noise. Very thoughtful. Uh, just one of those guys. I think he's going to win. Maybe not. But, uh, always, always good to have Martin Kimer in the, in the interview room. Did a perfect time to give a shout out to our guy, Randy Robles. Great strat. Hit my inbox. It's just the subject line is Kimer and, uh, Kimer and Jaeger. Only time that two German players ranked among the top five at the end of one major championship round was 2001 open championship. You know who that was? Uh, 2000 longer. Got me as one of them longer and Chaka. That's exactly right. Wow. I thought Chaka was Austrian, but, uh, so maybe we're, is that count as German, but I guess he's German. That would not count as German. No, it's not. But anyway, it's his whole other country. I'll trust Mr. Robles over, over me. Um, you know, we'll give him that one. I'll trust him. Trust. But that's a good, when we talk about stats last night and I'm like, he's just tracking down the, let me check that out. He sees Martin Kimer come across the desk and he breaks it down and component parts. Okay. PGA champion, uh, US open champion German, uh, over 40, uh, live player, you know, and he's just, he's looking for all these connections. I assume that's, you know, you may need to get Randy Robles doing, doing the analytics for the rider cup. I love US rider cup team. I'm worried it's back for a trivia night for some team building. That might be, you know, some culture stuff. Guys, there's a quote, uh, there's a quote on this CLEAKS, on this lovely CLEAKS, like, you know, burlap shopping bag says creativity takes courage. Henry Matisse said that. I would say that, that Kimer creating around like that today took courage as well. He was, uh, he was fifth in approach play. I mean, I think he gained most of that with that fucking shot into nine, that driver off the deck. Yeah. That was 300. Yeah. What do you, who do you think Matisse's favorite live team would be? If he had to pick one, probably the CLEAKS. I think they're, they've got the most visually striking. Uh, yeah. Take that offline. Uh, Min Woo Lee played well. I think that's just picking up the thread that he continues to play proper golf pretty well, drove it, drove it nice. Uh, I think the big thing with him is just going to be, are you going to put it? Uh, he has, I think it's been negative strokes game putting in his last five majors, like negative for the week. Uh, and he was negative as well this week, but drove the shit out of it. Hit 14 greens, uh, playing proper golf. I think we have such a bunch leaderboard DJ. I don't know if we can get to everyone. We, there's some guys, we just got to say like, Hey, you're in the Friday group. If you're still here on Friday, we will, we'll dedicate some time to you. Let's just go on the board. Yeah. Let me throw some people out. You guys tell me who, if we want to talk about them tonight or you need to wait, uh, Val's bar looking board. And I mean that as a Val's bar appreciator. You got to hear Ironswell at the Val's bar. Uh, pot Geter. Let's talk about him. He gained it. This isn't necessarily like bombers delight pot Geter at the top of the leaderboard. He gained over five shots on the greens today. Like he just putted his ass off. So most definitely we'll talk about Friday. He's stunting on me. Yeah. Or we may not be talking about Friday because the putter cool. Exactly. That's right. If you're still here, we'll talk about you Friday. Here's, here's all I'll say about pocket or as he gets lumped in with all these other people, he's 21 years old. I don't think, I truly don't think we talk about that enough that he's crazy, crazy, crazy young still. Uh, Stephen Yeager. Feels like a Friday. Uh, the weekend. Do we even talk about him on Friday? Oh, Saturday. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's Saturday, my friend. I think that's right. Scotty, uh, we talked about him a little bit. I don't know if you guys have anything more other than God, did he drive a good God, did he play patient golf? This feels like it's, this feels like it's going to be a test of patience and feels like it might be over a little bit. A little, a little, a little tiny bit. It feels like a really good setup for him in the, like what you just said, the patients one and like Scott, he's a really accurate driver and it feels like he and kind of like the experience, the way they drive the golf ball. Which is not in that upper upper echelon, but they're slightly above average in accuracy can has a chance to really play, play very well here. Like it, it, him hitting that many fairways today and not really bombing it. Uh, again, like he, he took a couple of three woods off the team and was just kind of playing strategically. He had eight irons into a lot of holes that guys were hitting wedges in, but he's so good with those clubs and so patient that, um, I just think this setup is going to serve him quite well. He's also good at reading the lie and he's really good at like, when there's a bunch of slope on these greens, it makes your accuracy with your irons and hitting the right. Yup. Segment of the greens that much more important. It's only our speed into his strengths. It looks like he manages energy like patience is the word we're using, but compared to like this afternoon watching cutting back and forth between him and JT, JT looked like he was in the zone, but almost like almost too focused. And it just looked a lot more of an, uh, an energy drain for JT than it did for Scotty. Can I throw it? Here's a take. I feel like Scotty plays this way every week and the weeks that he gets beat are the weeks when you don't necessarily have to play this way or maybe he doesn't quite have it, but there, there's a chance for somebody to just pin their ears back and make a bunch of putts and just kind of out, outscore him. I feel like weeks like this is when everybody else has to come to what, how Scotty plays all the time. I think what you just said about JT makes so much sense in that Scotty just is probably very comfortable. I mean, it's stressful golf, but I feel like he's probably very comfortable playing exactly how he played today. Whereas everybody else is like, okay, shit, this is a different test. I need to change what I'm, what I'm doing. I don't know if that's a projection by me, but that's how it looked though with JT, like JT played really well. I mean, you know, probably get down the board to him, but it just looked like he ran out of gas. You know, it was like, it was, um, he, he, JT does not, has never played before. JT does not, has never struck me as the most patient guy out there. Right. He wants to make birdies and it, and it felt like he was like, shit, I got to me projecting. It's like, man, I got it today. Like, and he got his hand in the cookie jar a couple of times on the back nine. Yeah. Uh, kind of in a blender there. It was a little bit. He was lucky to get away with bogey on 14, made a bomb bogey putt after just absolutely yanking one and yeeting his club after that. A lot of that going around. The other thing I would say about Scotty last thing is like he today, a day like today, he didn't, you know, at least by the numbers, like he didn't strike it particularly well. I think he, that's more him probably playing to the right spots and taking par instead of trying to force birdies. And the numbers can be like a little misleading when you're trying to leave it in the right spots, but even when he doesn't do that, like he just has, I don't know, five different superpowers or it's like, which superpower do I really need today? I need, you're telling me I need to be in the fairway. Cool. I'm going to go back to what you were saying about him and the experience. So it's like, okay, we can, let's, let's ramp that lever up today and I'll just kind of keep it in front of me and sacrifice a little bit. The discipline not to, to just stick with it. Like the patients and like, oh, that's, no, that's the strategy today. I'm not going to try to, I'm not going to get greedy anywhere. I'm just going to do that. He's the best in the world at that. He is a final guy at minus three, Alex Smalley. Is that a Friday guy? It's a Friday guy. We'll see. You guys got to look for his mom tomorrow out there. The code Daniel Brown. Yeah. He kind of got kind of fluffing his stats a little bit with that eagle on 11. Yeah. Angels and demons out there. But his, his socials are as good as anything for diapers, solvents of ciphers out there. I would, as, as we said, Sunday, would encourage people to seek him out on Instagram. I'm Hibbet Harry Hall or do some, some important stuff happened at on Instagram with English golf right now. Uh, saw, if we heard from, I don't have a ton other than just great to see him. Great to see him up there on a, see him back bouncing around. Yeah. Great to see him on a golf course that demands patience and consistency. I'd, you know, we like that. Uh, Max Grazerman mentioned earlier. He was leading, you know, he was minus three bogey 18 kind of a little sloppy coming in, but really, really good round for him. Um, and didn't putt it particularly well. Kind of feel average and putting drove it, drove it great. He had some interesting comments after the round. Uh, said he just fully committed this week to just hitting a draw off the tee. So that's my natural shot shape. I don't know why I haven't been doing it. I've just finally worked it out and I just said my words, not his fuck it. I'm not going to hit a draw. I'm the other way. I'm, you know what? I'm hitting the fate. I'm hitting a sloppy cut. Exactly. Uh, Xander Shoffley, I would say, uh, among the, the massive. You see what's it talking about on my Friday. I mean, we said it in the preview, man, I continue God, I'm a broken record here, but I don't have a lot to say other than like, yeah, that's not surprising at all. He's been playing really good golf. He plays PJ Jams, he chips really well. He's, he seems to be back trending towards the person that he was in 2024. If not quite all the way there, he's, he's taking a lot of steps in that direction a bit like Scotty. Like, yeah, man, just, I don't know. He just kind of does everything well and knows how to play big golf tournaments really well. And I put him in the patients category. Yeah. Like you see, always strikes me as a pretty patient player. He was minus 140 for a top 20 and you know, it's minus odds. It's not like, but that just felt like free money. I was all over that one. It's just like, he's going to finish in the top 20. He always does in majors and he's playing good golf. Get solid in a, in a betting state. Oh, he is active. Guys, we need some birdies. It was over under 14 and a half. My biggest wager of the week was on the winning score being better than 14 and a half. So John Rahm is going to get at you. You've been out there. You did a co-op. We're going to skip Corey Connors and piss off the Canadians just so we can get to P. The great man P is inevitable. He plays a bogey free round and she's 68 today. Just two birdies. I loved God. There was so much good stuff in his press conference about his, his prep. We were talking about it on Slack. I think the straight up, I don't think there's going to be a sicker, cooler thing in golf this year. Then Patrick Reed playing the masters, the PGA and the U S open back to back to back with no other tournaments in between, which is what it's looking, looking like is going to happen. It's like Ben Hogan out there. It's so good, man. So good. But he was talking about how he could come up and have a proper, a proper prep came up last week for three days, saw it in all kinds of different wins, saw all the different ways he was going to be tested. He said he was absolutely ready to rock. Only hit only hit cheese steaks. Yeah. Hell yeah. Birds fans only hit six fairways today. A little surprising to see a guy who's not super long only hit six fairways and shoot a bogey free 68. But you know, he's got the irons going. I don't know what to say. Got the irons going. I think sky's the limit. I think P would be such a great winner for Philadelphia. Just a gritty grinder, kind of a scumbag. I mean that in a very Ryan Whitney positive way. He always calls it. He said he always calls Philadelphia and scumbags and the flyer scumbags. I think P P is a gritty, grindy motherfucker. And I think he would be great as a, as a PGA champion. And you know what, T.C. I let you crown him way too early at the Masters and I'm not going to let it run, run right back here. He got off easy for just kind of wilting away at Augusta. You were talking them up for the Masters. And I was wearing today. Sick. So I'm just, I'm just caution flagging. It just kind of seems like he could do no wrong in your books these days. He can't do any wrong. Down at minus one. We've got a trio of names I'd love to discuss Brooks Kepka, the experience and John Rom, Neil, which one of those guys you want to talk about first? Let's start with the experience. Get out of the way with you guys, you know, you guys were just, you know, check my phone like a hundred new messages about the experience. Put it on airplane mode. Mistake present here. So all you were out there following today. I mean, it's good in person as it did on TV. It looked great, Deige. It looked great. It was decidedly, decidedly not crackhead golf. It was sensible golf. It was, he was awesome with the driver. He was awesome with it. I mean, I'm telling you, he missed a fairway on 13 with a hybrid and he missed fairway on. I'll think of what other hole he missed, but it was barely. It was two. It was two. It was two. The only two he missed. Only two he missed. It was two and it rolled a foot into the fairway. So like he basically hit the driver and I'm not, we were not on the sides of fairways. We were in the center of fairways all day long with the right shape, with the right, with everything, you know, he's moving it both ways. He's like, follow. He was, he was picking up a tee early. Yeah. Watching, watching Rom and, and Rory struggle on the seventh hole and speech just hit this cut around it right to the middle of that fairway, which is so hard to hold. He did. He made a bogey, but the driver, I'm saying the driver was that good. Iron play was just okay. The putter had its moments. He still had a putt on seven that was just like from above the hole. I was like, dude, you, you didn't even think you were going to make that. Like you didn't believe for one second you were going to make that one, but he had several of those eight to 14 footers that were outside the hole putts, both for par and for birdie today that went in the center of the hole, kind of like they used to, like, I don't think the putter is like back to what it used to be, but a couple of times when he rolled in the birdie on six and did the little sidestep with a little wipe of his pants and the little crowd wave was like, ah, that was Leo on the couch meme. I'm like, I know that guy. I've seen that one. Couple bogies coming in bogey on seven bogey on eight kind of soured what was a really, really nice day and somebody was in control of the golf ball. And I, I did not think he could win the masters. I did not think he could handle everything that Augusta was throwing at him at this point in his career. You're very nasty about it too. Very nasty. I was very, I was very right about it. Very, very, very, very, very. And I think he, I think he can win on this golf course. I think Jordan can win this. I don't think he's going to, but I think he can. That guy is going to win. Let's not get out of control on this, but like this, this could be easily a top five finish for Jordan. It'll be a missed opportunity. DJ, I think with that picture we're just looking at what you call a speed south today, Myrtle Beach Sheik. I think that's right. I think I saw one of those hundreds of slack messages about the experience. I was like, ooh, I like that one. Okay. I'm going, I'm going back out the course. Just extreme bachelor party vibes for that, for that shirt. I would say TCA, I think maybe he's trying to cut it. Maybe underarmors try to cut it on some of the Bob Mackintyre market or something. It's, it's not good, but the driver, the driver is good. And I arm chair, arm chair analysis here, but our guy has not looked good on the greens. We know that for the last, the last couple of weeks. Give me some wild ass circus greens with huge slopes. So I want him starting at three feet outside, you know, let, let the artist cook, let the experience, experience, people. It's, I think that's what we need. That's our only shot that we got. So just check where his numbers check. He was plus 0.41 on the greens. That sounds about right. He just, you know, he had a short ish miss for birdie on 11 today. And, you know, had to add a couple of three putts there coming in, but good, good ball striking numbers though, man. Strokes get off the T 1.94 gained almost two shots on the field off the T. That is good enough for fourth in the field off the T fourth, the experience fourth and strokes gain off the T. Right. Park, go tell a friend. Found it. Yeah. There's no way that's going to, that's going to leave them. Let's go to John Rom playing in the same group. Also shot one under TZ wants to put him at plus one with a code of conduct violation. I will say if, well, I don't know if you're going to roll out the whole, like we, we pasted our code of conduct all over the board. And if you're a shithead on the golf course, you're going to at least get a warning, maybe got a warning and that they didn't publicize it. But let's carry Hig have the ball. I just, I don't really know what, yeah, I don't know what would constitute that. If not for Rom hitting a volunteer with a divot on number seven. Can we, we got, sorry, I got another video. We got to play this. We were apologizing to a seven for what went up in there. Thanks for reminding me of that. I mean, I got a flyer on my second shot that went long. It's not a good spot. And just out of frustration, I tried to make an air swing just over the grass. And I wasn't looking took a debit and unfortunately hit a volunteer. Yeah, they hit him and unfortunately hit him in the shoulder and then the face, which I couldn't feel any worse. So I was there apologizing. I need to somehow track him down to give him a present because that's unexcusable and for something that could be completely avoidable. Whether it's my intention or not, it was just, it was just not good. Lots, lots of contrition from wrong. We love that. He owned it. He owned it. That's in apology. Yeah, but owning it and facing up to the consequences of reactions are two different things. One though, but I'm giving him credit for taking step one, which should be a description of it. It's like he hit it with a shovel. Unfortunately, fortunately, it's all unfortunate, very unfortunate. I don't think he, I don't think he didn't own up to the consequence. I just don't think they gave him any consequences. They might have probably known, but he should have demanded to be stroked. Yeah, that's right. I'm with UTC. He was two over through 10 looking like we were kind of on the oh shit. He was chippy. He spiked, absolutely spiked a water bottle into the trash can behind 2 T walking off after a bogey on the first hole, his 10th hole, just like. Should that have been a win? Got us and Oz from the gallery. I don't think it was like damaging the course or throwing a club or any of the specific code of conduct rules, but it was like a. Oh, we got to see a John Rom meltdown in person. Like the crowd was kind of a buzz. And then he probably chipped in or hold it, dunked it for you hold it from the fairway for Eagle and 98 yards. That was his first ever Eagle at a PGA championship. How about that stat? Really? Yeah. Crazy. It was, I was right behind the green for that. It took a, you know, you don't know cheering inside the ropes, no cheering in the press box. It was like a complete instinct for me. I hope I'm not in the video of like, I put both hands up in the air when it went. Such a sick shot to that front right pin. That was just a really obviously all the whole locations were difficult, but I, it was, that was an awesome moment today. Maybe not a hot take here. I, he was my pick to not win. So I'm, I'm mildly nervous, but I think he's going to stick around. I think we were talking about how big a, a good start was for him to not, you know, just be within shouting distance. And I don't know, man. I think getting that under his belt, like it just puts him in a different spot than he has been in with some of these other majors that he's, he's laid an egg. I don't know if you guys feel the same or differently. Absolutely. I mean, he started, I mean, he started the day missed. He got a really, he drove it just barely into the left for F on 10 on a sprinkler head on a sprinkler, an exposed sprinkler line of something. I got to drop into the fairway, which looked like a tremendous break, but then missed it right of that right hole location, chipped it up that hill and it rolled right back to his feet. And like all of a sudden now he's like, I got to get this up and down for bogey. He had a grotesque second chip and was a tap in bogey from there, but it really, really rough start. And then everything kind of, I don't know. It's hard. The other side of that is like, all right, yeah, you hold a shot and then you chipped in on eight for birdie. Like you kind of stole at least two shots out of that. My point. Yeah. Like you stole, you know, you would have tap in birdie on two, if it doesn't go in the fricking hole and then like a chip ends a little, a little bit lucky. Are we, are we saying he's in a, you know, playing great and in a great spot if he shoots plus one today, probably not. But he has had a bad habit of shooting bad Thursday scores and he does kind of the back, the crawl, you know, the creep up the leaderboard when he has the morning tea times on the weekends and getting past that and still having a chance in this tournament. I think we were, we're almost certainly headed towards a wrong top 10 at minimum this week. I would, I would say, you know, after the chip in and the, and the whole out. He's tied with Andrew Novak, Andrew Putnam, Taylor, Chandler, Bonchay, Matty Schmidt, but Kali. So another German for you, Neil. It feels like wrong. Look it up. Check it is West German citizen, but he's born in Czechoslovakia. So it's out of the square. I could confirm. I was taking a German. Yeah. Feels like Rob's, Rob's connecting the dots finally. AT&T believes in connecting people to greater possibilities. And they do that through a network that keeps people meaningfully connected to those who matter most friends, family and more. So the moments that matter feel closer and clearer because it's not just about being more connected. TC it's about being better connected wherever life takes you. When the connection matters, it has to be AT&T to find out more head to ATT.com slash connect to change AT&T connecting changes. Everything. The last person in that little trio that we mentioned that we have not talked about yet, Brooks Kepka, wouldn't be a proper major championship without Brooks Kepka sitting there at one under par quietly. You know, everything old is new. Everything new is old. Anybody see anything from Kepka or did he just sneak up on sneak up on all of it and see it. The insia shot ball hitting Jesse. Yeah. His, his ball striking is out of control. His putting is horrific. It's crazy how bad it is. Yeah. He's got to get that fixed. And if he does, it's he's right in the mix. Yeah. It is, you know, the data golf numbers show that it is a a stronger putting contest. I'm not going to call it a piece of shit putting contest, but the putting skill and variation is higher than we typically see in a PGA tour event. And I watched him hit a great shot in the 17. It was really pure. I watched him hit a bunch of shots on the range yesterday. It looked like he was in complete control of the golf ball. And we hit that shot in 17 today. I was just like, man, he's playing good enough golf right now that a different setup than this, a different test than this with as much emphasis on putting as there is. He could have, he could have won again. Like if this was like another Oak Hill outing, I think, I think, yeah, I think Kepke could have won this. He still can. The data golf stuff, though, would that be because the greens are so big and like sloping? There's a lot, a lot of lag putting going on. That almost feels like not a piece of shit, like you said, it's not a piece of shit putting contest, but a kind of a fun tasia putting contest. Like it truly testing the whole skill of putting. It is the largest opportunity for variance comes from putting is kind of, and that was kind of in the model that was projected as well, just because of because of the way. My amateur way of describing that would be like, it's not if you if you miss fairways out here, it's not like you're hacking out and laying up like almost everyone's going to be playing T to green somewhat similarly and getting near the green in two shots is what is going to provide the most possibility for variance. On the greens that probably didn't make sense in my head. It makes sense. Green green lots of lag. Big cans. A couple more people. I just want to circle through some of the bigger names and then we can we can double back on anybody that we missed. T.C. The can't lay watch. There's not a can't lay warning, but the can't lay watch will continue still in effect. Still in effect until 9 p.m. Eastern time. Where do you think he's even par three back. Just continue to monitor that situation. Matt Fitzpatrick and even Alex Fitzpatrick. I think it's too over. Just so can I say something? I think Alex got first off 645. I agree. I think I was done a little dirty. Browning. No, it's dirty. No, it's done dirty. Talked about how you had to get up at like 3 30 in the morning. Couldn't fall asleep last night. I completely agree. It's a rub of the green. I just won. I had another good finish. It just felt like he kind of is a rookie, man. He's carrying a message that they didn't agree with him getting his card based on. Yeah, you know, that's where the teaching pros aren't happy about it. He totally skipped over little baby Colin. How about that? What is a Freudian slip? I might not even consider him that big of a player right now. He did shoot one under. You got a hand to him. Joaquin. Another guy was like, dog for never showing up in majors. Joaquin one under. He's feeling himself after that first top 10 last year. Cam Smith working with Claude Harmon. That's a big one. He hasn't, dude, TC hasn't made a cut in a major in like two years. It's, it's, it's great. It's awesome. I've, you know, no bigger cam fan. Love to see him. Love to see him playing well. Did you see a tee shot on 18? No, it went like 170 yards. I don't know if it hit a tree, but like on the, on the shot link, it went 170 yards, like left. Hate that. Not good. Not good. Uh, Ludwig and Tommy, both, uh, shooting two over TC. I'd give you a quick second, uh, for your, your response to that. Yeah. I mean, I didn't, I said I wasn't going to fluff him. Uh, very, very upset about Tommy's performance today or about Ludwig's performance today. Tommy's not wasting himself. This golf was saving himself today. He's, he's prepping for, for Shinnecock and Burkdale. Um, you know, they tie with God or up. They tied with, uh, Brian Campbell noted Austrian burn, burn to these burger meals. Not German. He's Austrian. Sure. You just name and names. It's just think about the guys he asked you about, please. Yeah. On hell. I aura slash savvy. Uh, no, Ludwig, Ludwig was very disappointing today. The putter stunk. He was, he was missing everything he looked at inside of six or seven feet. I watched for nine, nine holes, or I guess eight holes. We bailed on them after that awful shot on eight. Uh, right misses big time in play. A lot of right, huge right miss on two and then a massive right miss on eight, uh, with some other smaller, but right misses mixed in between. It just doesn't look, it looks clanky right now. Okay. Listen, it's, we got, we got out of the way and, uh, you know, yeah, he didn't play great. It should, it probably should have been an even par round. He didn't, didn't ball strike as that whole group. I was Ricky Ludwig and Bryson. It was Mopey. It was, he got, he got dick down. He'd be being put in the same group as, as, as Bryson. Right. It's just Bryson getting them like a eight out there. No, he wasn't. He wasn't getting any eight. They dick down. Dick down. Uh, can I, can I talk to you guys about how you concisely sum up a bad round here? Me, how would you describe your opening round? Shit. All right. Thank you. I'll open it up for questions. I just, you know, it's great. That clip was everywhere, but, uh, Rory, uh, a little bit of self-deprecating sense of humor there, uh, not his best day. Certainly. I kind of saw that we were talking about it before we, we hopped on it. Didn't feel as bad as it was. I kind of like started making a lunch right around the, the wave turnover there. And I was like, Oh my God, did he bogey five in his last six? What the hell happened? Uh, just no driver, man. Just driving it all over the map. Drive. Yeah. It's wild walking all those holes with them, how small the fairways felt for him and how big they felt for, for, uh, the experience. And it, it, it, it didn't seem really far off for Rory today, but again, those misses, if you miss, like you're just going to pay a price. Like you missed small ish on seven, but in a really bad spot. Uh, and out of that, that very thick, rough on the right side, hits a tree, ricochets across the fairway, down short left, uh, makes bogey out of that one drove, hit a point. He tried to hit like a stinger on four, um, like the low drive and just scored it off to the right. And that's the, the clip is going around with the massive club slam. He did. That wasn't great either. We're going to get on rom for the, for the stroke in Rory needs to get warned for the slam and the club thing. He should demand to be stroked. Exactly. The only defense I'll give of that one was there wasn't a noxious guy standing right behind me that you can hear it on the clip. Just yelled super loud as soon as he hit, as soon as he hit it, like not enough to have distracted him, but as soon as he hit like a really, really piercing, annoying, uh, which like, if you had a bad shot and you hear that probably contributed, I was the only time you acted out like that all day. Like that was contributing. That was one of the worst. Oh, that guy, I could have, I could have, I would have a big dom out there. Like a spectator early call. Yeah. That was a Niels. Oh, good shot, man. I would encourage Rory to take it out on that guy then instead of the, instead of the off course, you know, But yeah, it was just a slow. Yeah. I just didn't feel like he shot four over today. It didn't feel good necessarily, but, um, it just didn't feel like he, uh, quite, I don't want to say deserved that. He had such a great shot into 11. Like he just hit a really proper low flighted skipping wedge up onto that tier and made birdie there after making a bogey on the opening hole again, driving it just a little off the fairway, uh, to the right of that hole. And I, I, I don't know. I'm not counting. I'm not counting. He's very unlikely to win, but I don't think he's, I think he's out for winning the tournament, but like he's, I think he's going to make the cut. I think he's like not done in this tournament. It was not like he was, I know he spent a lot of time in the range afterward, um, but it just, I don't know. It didn't seem like he was, I still think this should be a good golf course for him. Uh, Neil, would you see from Bryson and his, his 76, which by the way, I think this was another Elias sports bureau stat. Now, uh, the fifth time that he's opened a major with an opening nine holes of four over or worse. Take him away. I want to be very clear about that. He said Bryson, uh, Bryson stuck, uh, as Cody showed me the guy that's always like this guy stuck and it's like, I don't know what stuck means, but he's just missing right at he and Ludwig were just on the right side of the golf course all day. And Bryson seems like a man at war with himself, just muttering to himself on the greens. Just a lot of, didn't seem like good self-talk going on. Bad disposition yesterday. Like this not, it doesn't seem like he's in a good mood to begin with. Um, negotiations and pitches and valuations. He's, he's in all these, these pitch meetings with, uh, Scott O'Neill as their pitching family offices and private equity and venture firms. You know, he's exhausted. He must be. Maybe he's got a lot going on, um, but it just didn't look good. He didn't putt well. He just felt like he was flummoxed on the greens. It was just like a, you know, D just one of those situations where I was excited to watch that group, um, you know, get eyes on Ludwig with, with TC plant his flag there and, and just see, you know, his, his, um, you know, I picked Bryson not to win. Is he going to shove that in my face? And it was just like, I picked the wrong group. You just, you're hearing like roars from everywhere else except for, you know, where, where we're walking. I would, you might've got the right, I don't know. I would sign up to watch that. That's Bryson at war with himself is, uh, that's captivating stuff. I learned some stuff. Yeah. And, and I was curious to see it wasn't, uh, he hit one way right on two over into the hospitality is like on a step on the hospitality, like steps up to a hospitality area, got TIO. And then they were going to give him TIO from the like, um, multi cart path. I was like, this is bullshit. But he didn't take it. He wanted to be on the mulch cart path and all these people were loving. They were loving that him out among the people. Oh my God, you're going to hit it from the car. I checked this shit out. Oh my God. You know, so, you know, he's still getting love because he's, he's a unit. You know, he's a striking, striking lad, right? Well, he, yeah, I will say one unrelated Bryson. I ran into a Gil Hans, uh, right there watching Bryson do that. And I asked him about the trees. I was like, Hey, you know, do they take the trees? He's been an issue. No, he goes, no, man, I'm getting flamed. He's like, I, they took all those out before I started the restoration. He's like, now they have had a red oak, uh, disease and the ash trees. They had to cut these like they had to cut some trees down recently, but he points across the fairways like see those four trees over there on the left side of two. It's like, we planted those last year. What trees back in? So just wanted to clear up the tree stuff for you. I love the ash trees. You got to, you got to watch those ash trees go quick, you know, guys. Um, they're, they're decimated out here in the Philly area. Do we have to, yeah, do we have to talk about the single length? When do we talk about the single length? That's what I was. Every major, every major. 156. Here's the last in the field and shipping today. Yeah. I think some of that, the data golf guys had a good, good blog post about that. I know it kind of becomes like an every stat affects everything, but it's like, you had one really bad one. Well, it's like the, the one on 11 is like, it was a bad chip, but also it was just a fucking horrendous iron shot over the green. So then he gets just, you know, blown up with that one. I think there was another one on eight. So it is like a everything kind of affects everything that said, you know, he's not really like chipping it stone dead a whole bunch either. Like it definitely seems like, uh, as much as the chippings a problem, the short wedges are a problem. Which is stressful when you miss greens and you're not confident as someone I can speak to this, God, I got to chip that, you know, dude, that's, that's not a good way to play golf. I am not technique guy. I really never should be auditing a, a professionals technique at anything. But what I see with Bryson chipping, I just, my, the, the Joe Mayo, like don't get the club inside thing jumps off the screen of like, Oh my God, Bryson just takes the club right back, gets it stuck inside. And that just makes like making crisp contact with chip shots really, really, really difficult. Uh, and, and I'll be, I mean, he knows he's figures out a scientific way to do pretty much everything, but man, just kind of doesn't look right, man. And this, this place exposed him today. It seems like something too that like maybe you would want, you know, something that's not really long and really heavy, but yeah, he's smarter than, he's smarter than everybody else. The smartest man on earth. Uh, it's, yeah, it's just, it's crazy to miss in that many, I'm saying this again, we're, we're doing a lot of, uh, you know, couching these opinions tonight, but I'm saying this as a very, very bad six handicap golfer, but, uh, it's wild to miss in that many bad spots when your approach shots are as short as they have been for most of these super long players. You know, I was going through and looking at Rory's average approach into a par four was like 120 yards average. Like there were a bunch of them shorter than that. And then a couple of them that like an 18 and you know, whatever that are, are way longer, but it's like these are for a 7,400 yard golf course, whatever it is. It's God, these guys are having a lot of like 67 yards, 89 yards, 101 yards. Wild, uh, what these long hitters can do on a golf course like this. Also, like it's another thing just when you're last in the field and there's 20 something club pros in the field, it's not good. Like that's extra bad. No offense to the corporate financial team. Those guys last in, right? We'll see less than chipping. Chipping. Last in. Yeah. Jesus. Uh, yeah. Man, I mean, I just, I kind of, I know he was playing a lot better golf, but it just makes me look back at Pinehurst differently. I was like, man, did they mess that set up that bad that he was able to, he's just not a good iron player. How did he win the U S open twice? I mean, like we kind of know how he wanted to win foot, but, uh, I got it. I know it's, it's, it's, it's probably unfair because like he is playing different golf. I mean, I played good with his iron bed stretches. Yeah. Not a good iron player right in there. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like when the, when the, I don't know, even when he was in contention of the masters last year, like he did not hit his irons well, was not good with the, uh, with the approach. It's just a, I don't know. Pre-Hebrew hammers. He had the hammers, um, at Pinehurst. Yeah. He brought them in in 2024. Masters was the first time we saw them when he printed them. Hey, Dige, what did, uh, what did Jimmy Walker shoot today? I think he shot one over TC. Really? Yeah. We got a good shoot. Yeah. Match. We got ourselves a good dual going between, uh, Jimmy Walker and blocky, which I believe was laid out on the, on the preview show. So I had to refresh my memory on which side of that I took. Uh, you told me I took Jimmy Walker. So I'll take your word on that and ride with him against blocky. Uh, yeah. I feel, I feel good about where I'm at. Jimmy Walker's played a lot of professional golf tournaments. Blockies. I mean, blocky's probably going to get an invite to who knows what it's G 20 Summiter. He's got nothing to lose. He's got nothing to lose. Everything to gain. Yeah. I just want to go back to that raising gain. Uh, better not play too well. What, uh, what else do we got? I had the, um, I had this on my list. I don't know if you guys were using the PGA championship app. They instituted an AI chat bot, uh, this year that a lot of people were having some, some fun with, uh, just kind of a, nobody asked for this. Uh, so what did you, what did you think was going to happen? I know the shotgun start guys had a lot of fun with this. I saw a lot of tweets about it. I believe I, I don't know if I tried to redownload the app and then it glitched out and I couldn't confirm this, but I believe they pulled the plug. Uh, and I believe they've, they've terminated the AI chat bot, which I think is the right move. Uh, I mean, prejudice. Yeah. A chat bot that's like, Hey, tell me what, tell me where Jimmy Walker is in the field, maybe helpful. Again, nobody's really asking for that. Tell me where I can get a hot dog at a ronamink, maybe helpful. Uh, a chat bot that's just like, you can ask any question is not a good idea. And I feel somewhat bad shining a light on that, but I'm like, who the fuck thought this was going to be? Who thought people were going to be like, wow, what a, what a sick, helpful thing. They didn't fence it off. Like, no, I was asking it all kinds of questions. I was asking about that. We got into it for a long time about the rollback. Uh, we got, we got into it about where's Don Ray? Uh, where do you find it? Where was it? It was in the app, uh, on like just that right at the top AI chat bot. And I ended up in some agency presentation though, like, look at all the impressions. For sure. I mean, it was going to, it was going around. There was somebody that's still there. What do you want to ask it? Ask it. I, I, yeah. See, ask. Yeah. It was asking what the PGA, Chabee's identity is. Rose, Price and Shambhubi as vulgar as possible. Uh, while you're doing that, I was asking a question about, you know, about Solly's dismissal of the experience. It was, it knew you as data fiend Chris Solomon. Uh, it was good stuff. It was a charlatan Chris, Solly Solomon. See what it says. Hold it up to your, hold it up to your, uh, it says I'm here to help with the PGA championship golf and T-mobile. What would you like to know? Uh, yeah. You got to get pretty good at your prompt thing. Okay. Let's get work, work, work club. Magenta. I'll say, tell me about Wyndham Clark throwing the club in the year. Yeah. Yeah. It's, uh, if it is still open, I would encourage anybody during the many, many, many, many, many, many commercial breaks to, uh, hit up the, uh, the AI chat bot. And ask him questions. We were watching here in the hotel. We only got to see a little bit in the afternoon. We were coming out like how few the commercials were. It was good. Got back at the end. And then at the end they, they, they caught up. Uh, but I mean, there was a good stretch there for an hour and a half or so. It was, it was straight golf homie. It was, it's just jarring, uh, it's jarring, switching over from the, the feature groups coverage this morning was awesome. And some of this is like, you know, of course I am, uh, you put Ram and Rory and, and the experience altogether on a really good golf course. I'm like, that's, it's kind of all I'm interested in right there is like, show me that. So once that ends, I'm like, it's pretty natural, natural let down, but man, the featured groups, like he just gets so much better of a feel for the golf course and the flow and, uh, it's really good stuff. I look forward to it. We've lost all he's, he's, he's in with X mocking love. So I was having a dry photos of him and him and Cancun or something. Again, she said bank account info said, I'm here to help with the PJ championship golf and blah, blah, blah. I said, someone got to you, didn't they? And she said, nah, just stick it to the official PJ championship info. Leaderboard, T times venue details. What's on your mind? Yeah. They may have sounds like scary Terry and scary. Kerry's press conference. Yeah, exactly. Not a lot of United on your mind corporate speak and, uh, deflections of sorts. Uh, what else you guys got? Anything else in the notebook you want to get to? I feel like we're, we're pretty efficient here tonight. No, good, uh, good day on site. Um, we'll be back back at the Casa tomorrow. Um, but good time in Philly. Shout out to Philly. Do we do the Cam young get a mention in any, uh, uh, we didn't talk about Cam what he finished at, I think plus one, plus one. Yeah. Yeah. Which was disappointing. He just couldn't get it going. Uh, it seemed like he was pretty, pretty steady on the front nine, but he kind of ran into that stressful finish. Um, so we're going to work where he couldn't get anything going and he was pretty steady and he finished plus one, but Tommy's, I thought I'd show a lot of absolute. Well, you see, from what I saw, you got to say your words, TC. We didn't say a word about Tommy or Ludwig. You said privately you're at your wits end with blood. Think I am at my wits end with them. Cause the expectations are, are win. Yeah. I would just say Cam young today plus ones, you know, not, not good enough, but it's four back, much more past the eye test and what I saw from, uh, from Ludwig. Just how far back is too far back? Oh. I mean, it's always, it's always how many people in front of you rather than necessarily the strokes, right? But if you're at plus three, you have, uh, if you're a plus three, you have a hundred and four 92, you know, you have 92 people in front of you. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Yeah. I just felt like the guys at plus three are going to cotton up, you know, accent and the Peloton. Yeah. What was one of those body hair there? Weaving through traffic. Too many guys. Is it the guys that plus two have 66 guys in front of them? Jesus. The guys at plus one, it's hard to predict what the rest of this tournament is going to be like, you know, it's tomorrow looks pretty windy again. So I mean, it, it, it should hold up again, but, um, yeah, I don't know. From a, again, maybe not from like a proper test index, guys are going to be shooting 85, but from a proper golf, uh, proper golf tournament perspective, I think it's going to be a great setup. I think it's going to be windy again tomorrow. Like you said, I think it's going to be kind of a repeat of today. Score stay low. And then it, it heats up a little bit. Maybe the court, you know, maybe a little more humidity and a little bit, a little bit softer greens, maybe the wind comes down a little bit and you, you know, open it up to us 66 on the weekend, 67 on the weekend. I think it's like a, I think that's a good spot to be. I think it's, I think we're, we're set man. It's going to be a good, good weekend. I'll say this, yeah, just in, you know, we've been quite, quite hard. I think deservedly on PJ of America and PJ championship. I, it, it is a logistical difficulty getting to and from the course for pretty much everyone. There's just like not areas around the course to park and shuttle, but it's just, it's difficult, but you have a little bit of patience with that part. Once you're there, they've seemingly kind of nailed it in terms of the logistics, the food that's available. Like there's not long lines in a lot of places. The vibe out there was just overwhelmingly positive. Like the energy was positive. It felt like, it felt like, you know, there, sometimes you go to tournaments and you can just feel from the crowd that they can't see anything just based on, you know, how grandstands are set up. Like there's a ton of public seating around 18 green, which has been heavily corporatized in the, in the past. There's just a lot of grandstands for people to go. Just probably people could see what they wanted to see and the, and the vibes are just really, really strong out there. Really good branding, you know, whole signs that, you know, from a lot of different places, you can see exactly what whole is what. The, the, the area behind like 14, 15, 16, 17, you can see so much golf in that section and it's going to be awesome energy on the back nine on both the weekend rounds. So I, I do got to give them their props. I, I like, I love, I love this venue for this championship. I, it, it's especially compared to both of the last two years, which have been kind of disastrous. This is just, this is a pretty darn big dub, I'd say so far. I will say they've gotten lucky, weather wise, thus far as well. Correct. Wind helps. Wind helps. Wind helps a lot. Dryness helps all that. Any whole locations or any of you guys want to see tomorrow or Saturday that you're really out yet? I don't know. There's so, like there's so many options. These greens are just fricking, fricking massive. I also, I want to, I want to call them. We got them. I want to call BS on that, that Donald Ross quote. It just doesn't sound like something Donald Ross would say. This is the kind of even, I thought I had done my best, but even I didn't know how good it was sort of. Yeah. I just, I don't think he said that. We'll have to look into that. Maybe ask that AI chat bot. Or maybe we'll ask Randy Robles. Maybe he can. Randy, if you're hearing this, check on that for TC. That would be great. And intense. What did he mean? Fun pin, the far left pin on six right over a ridge tomorrow. I saw guys practicing to that one. Where's 13 tomorrow? Cause that was a fun one kind of front right. We'd call that out in the 13 preview all the way back left. Maybe some are, well, maybe some guys hitting driver, taking it on and risking kind of blowing it right a little bit. I think we'll see more longer clubs on that one tomorrow than we did. Then we did today. A lot of irons, a lot of hybrids on that. And the practice rounds almost everyone was just shipping driver. The fun one was 17. 17 is 16 on 12. Sorry, I'm looking at it. No, never mind. I was looking at 12. Sorry, I'm an idiot. 17 is tucked. Where's 11 tomorrow? 11 is front right tomorrow. 10 on five from the right. You could say I don't, it's hard. It's unless you see a actual heat map of the greens with these pins overlaid, it's hard to say, but like that could be kind of bullish. Like it's going to be, if you're short, it's going to rip. 80 yards back down the hill. But it could be accessible from from spots along with that one. All right. Who who on the first page of the leaderboard is most likely to shoot? 78 plus tomorrow just totally. I think you're going to say Martin Kimer who literally did that. That's the last time I think it's pocky. Man. Didn't pocky live him? TC. He's a proper player. Anyway, does that where you won the amateur? You're right. He did. I think he did. Yeah. That's wild. I'm going to take, I'm taking Kimer as that is my bet there. No offense to anybody. All right. I won't say, I won't be a bad guy and say blocky. But TC take Kimer and all that cleaks gear. I'm not no, I think Kimer's, Kimer's rock solid. If Kimer's in contention someday, will you fly up TC? No, no, that would mean I'm flying American for the third and fourth time this week. However, your experience is pretty darn good. Must say. It's a hatred of American supersedes is the love of the court. They tried to upsell me so many times. So it's the horror. The horror. Yeah, I hate it. Yeah, I'm talking American. That might be the rapid up box for Neil. Neil, go get on the road. Drive safe. Good to, good to chat with everybody. Glad you guys had a great time out there. TC, savor that, that care package from your beloved Cleeks. Shout out to Matt and Cody behind the scenes. Shout out to foot joy. Shout out to high noon. Shout out to our friends at AT&T. And I will see everybody tomorrow night for another, another show at this delightful PGA championship. Cheers. Thanks. Thanks to all the Philly faithful everybody that said hello. Just we're absolutely feeling the love out there greatly, greatly appreciated. Enjoy the weekend. It's going to be a great, great, great tournament.