The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show

17.) Stephen A. Smith On Running For POTUS, Ludacris Addresses MAGAFest + A BIG Announcement!(1/19/26)

89 min
Jan 19, 20264 months ago
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Summary

The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show discusses political activism on MLK Day, critiques celebrity alignment with controversial figures, analyzes the NFL playoff controversy involving the Bills, and announces a new Patreon launch. The hosts debate the balance between engaging with opposing viewpoints and maintaining moral principles in the face of rising authoritarianism.

Insights
  • Political engagement requires strategic consistency: celebrities and public figures face credibility erosion when appearing alongside figures whose rhetoric contradicts their stated values, regardless of financial incentives
  • Media narratives around protests are deliberately weaponized through selective coverage and paid provocateurs to delegitimize grassroots movements and justify authoritarian responses
  • The entertainment industry's 'both sides' conversation strategy may inadvertently legitimize extremist rhetoric rather than persuade swing voters, particularly when applied to non-negotiable human rights issues
  • Algorithmic suppression and media gatekeeping significantly impact artist visibility and cultural relevance independent of talent or output quality
  • Voter suppression tactics (ICE presence at polling locations) can be countered through early voting and mail-in ballots, shifting power back to citizens
Trends
Celebrity political positioning becoming a litmus test for audience loyalty and brand alignmentAlgorithmic media control replacing traditional gatekeeping as primary tool for narrative managementRise of 'bridge-building' political strategy among establishment figures as counterweight to grassroots activismIncreased scrutiny of entertainment industry's relationship with authoritarian political movementsVoter suppression tactics evolving to include intimidation at polling locations rather than legal barriersIndependent film distribution gaining importance as mainstream media suppresses certain narrativesCreator economy (Patreon, YouTube) enabling direct audience monetization outside traditional media structuresSports officiating controversies becoming proxy for broader institutional credibility debatesCross-cultural entertainment (non-English language performances) as unifying force amid political polarizationHistorical narrative reclamation (MLK family stories) as counter to institutional erasure
Topics
Political Activism and Moral ConsistencyCelebrity Endorsements and Brand AlignmentMedia Narrative Control and Protest CoverageNFL Playoff Officiating ControversyVoter Suppression and Election SecurityAlgorithmic Censorship and Artist VisibilityPatreon and Creator Monetization ModelsGavin Newsom's Political StrategyStephen A. Smith Presidential SpeculationGaza Humanitarian Crisis and Film DocumentationIran Political DestabilizationPaid Provocateurs in Protest MovementsSuper Bowl Halftime Show and Cultural UnityMLK Day Observance and ServiceNelly and Kid Rock Festival Controversy
Companies
ESPN
Stephen A. Smith's primary employer where he hosts sports commentary and analysis shows
Walt Disney
Parent company of ESPN and ABC, Stephen A. Smith's ultimate corporate employer
ABC
Network where Stephen A. Smith produces content as part of Disney media portfolio
Sirius XM
Stephen A. Smith has partnership deal for two radio shows on satellite radio platform
Monzo
Digital banking platform featured in episode advertisement promoting investment features
American Express
Credit card sponsor offering cash back rewards on retail purchases
Geico
Insurance company advertising commercial auto insurance for small business owners
People
Stephen A. Smith
Discussed as potential 2028 presidential candidate despite denying serious interest in politics
Gavin Newsom
Criticized for podcasting with conservative figures like Ben Shapiro instead of direct political action
Ben Shapiro
Featured in Gavin Newsom podcast conversations that hosts view as strategically misguided
Nelly
Performing at Kid Rock's festival despite controversy over alignment with MAGA rhetoric
Ludacris
Clarified he was never booked for Kid Rock festival after false reports of pulling out
Kid Rock
Festival organizer described as 'n-word dropping, gun-toting, Beyoncé-hating racist'
Coretta Scott King
Paid for Julia Roberts' birth after Roberts' parents accepted King children into integrated theater school
Julia Roberts
Birth was funded by King family in 1967 due to parents' support of integrated education
Chance the Rapper
Performed at Chicago New Year's Eve countdown and created Super Bowl-related content
Bad Bunny
Performing Super Bowl halftime show; praised for inclusive commercial celebrating cultural unity
Caleb Williams
Made impressive last-second pass then threw overtime interception costing Bears playoff game
Josh Allen
Affected by controversial interception call in playoff game against Denver Broncos
Sean McDermott
Had to call timeout to request review of controversial interception call in playoff game
Michael Skolnick
Executive producer on 'The Voice of Hind Rajab' documentary about Gaza humanitarian crisis
Brad Pitt
Executive producer on 'The Voice of Hind Rajab' independent film about Gaza
Don Lemon
Attempted to interview Minneapolis protester in viral video moment
Quotes
"I have an obligation as a black person in America, a black American with a Jewish mother that when I am on a microphone and we are having conversations about things that matter in this society and in the world that I have to stand my ground."
Ebro
"If you're just an out-and-out racist, there's nothing to talk about. Period."
Rosenberg
"This is the logical conclusion for a nation that has never addressed its past, never thoroughly gotten rid of Confederate flags, never thoroughly gutted the Nazi thought process and all of that propaganda."
Laura
"I'm considering it in all seriousness because I've had very, very serious people approach me about it."
Stephen A. Smith
"Not all money is good money, bro. And some money is gonna help prevent your money in the long run."
Ebro
Full Transcript
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So if I hit the button, I'll have the same problem. What is happening here? Well, I don't work on Martin Luther King Day. Today's the day of rest. I wonder if you are tuning in or are they sleeping? Are you getting beat now? No. What are you doing for the whole half an hour when we were setting up the show? I mean, I don't know why you're not getting the beats. You should be getting the beats. They're playing. Then I'm playing you from the thing. No beats. No beats rhymes in life. I'm playing. I'm playing the beats rhymes in life the same way I play every time. I don't know. Here, turn the show off. Let's start over again. It may not work again. So wait, nothing that I'm playing right now. You can't even get a good on. You gotta start showing up 30 minutes early to make sure your equipment is working, man. So we don't have nothing. So we showed up today. You got nothing. You got. I can't. I bro, if I showed up two days ago, this would happen. I this is just the board's not playing you sound. I don't know what to say. You're hearing me though. Yeah. Yeah. We can hear you. You know, I really don't know. But I mean, I'd like to think it's my board honoring Dr. King and saying today's a day of rest. Oh, my God. My board is like, what are we doing? The whole Dr. King today's a day of rest. I think it's a day of service. I don't think it's a day of rest. Is that I think we're both making it up. I'll be honest. No, no, no, no. It's seriously Dr. King thing is a day of service. Yeah, I always thought it was a day of service too. The day of rest is like you're taking from the Bible or something. Like no, no, no, I haven't rested as well. Well, I mean, it's a day off of work. That's why people I think would go with it. You know, but I think technically the Martin Luther King holiday, you know, yes, people take off work, but it is always like, how are you going to be service to your community? How are you going to be service to your family? How are you going to be service to, you know, people in need? Because that's what Dr. King, the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. would have done. He was in service to people. Right. Right. Well, I also always feel like MLK has so many titles that just going MLK ain't doing it enough. Like I think you got to say the whole thing, at least once a show. Like, OK, if you want to say MLK day, cool. But at some point in the day, you have to say Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Just to make sure you know what I'm saying? You know, does it balance out if I don't ever actually say MLK? If I always say a version of Martin Luther King, that's pretty good. It's pretty good. I don't only do MLK. I don't know. MLK is really that much of a thing. It's not ringing. It's not ringing off. It MLK isn't JFK. Like JFK, you don't even have to call him by his name. JFK is whatever the airport. Martin Luther King gets the full. You got to call him or Dr. King. Dr. I'm with Dr. King. I think just like a good Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. I think goes a long way. Just say it one time. Yeah, it's a little extra respect. You know what I mean? I like when I like when I think I have a drop from Ghost Face once where he called himself Dr. Martin Luther Starks. Or Dr. Darden. No, Dr. Darden, Dr. Darden Luther Starks. Dr. Darden Luther Starks. Yeah, different than Martin. Well, listen, we're going to get into some MLK tidbits. You know, I'm saying some things you didn't know about the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Maybe you didn't know and needed a little reminder. We also Rosenberg was unraveling on behalf of the bills. So was Cardi B. A card. He or yes, well, Cardi B in favor of the Patriots, you are favorite of the bills. Thank you for that. Oh, I think I figured out what button I accidentally I pushed. Tell me if you have a beat here. Hold on. Hold on, folks. We have a beat. Yeah, there we go. All right. OK, show. So you're saying. All right. I just I tapped the mute. Yo, this mute button on this board, it like barely the red light. There are you get bored. Blame the board because you don't know. Hit yourself with the button. Yeah, but for the record, when it comes to Cardi B. Congratulations. I was annoyed during the game because I'm like, you know what? Why don't they show Cardi B on camera the way they show Taylor Swift? You know why? I will. I found out the main reason why is she wasn't there. Well, I jumped straight to racism. I feel well, by the way, that's where I went. That's what I was looking for. I was looking for the let me make the comp and get angry. But then I saw this video pop up on my timeline. I said, oh, this is what's going on. OK. It is. It is. Let's go. Let's go right now. I'm not playing. Did it just now? What's up? Jesus, welcome down. Fuck, welcome down. I don't know. I got. Welcome down. I think she said digs. She said Jesus. Jesus. I heard Jesus. Yeah. Jesus, welcome down. Something at one point digs calling him by his lap or her man by his last. I don't know what else she was saying, but did he have a good game? He had a touchdown. OK. OK. So that's a celebration. He had 40 yards and a touchdown. I don't know if that came after the way after the touchdown. My guess is that was after the W. OK. Yeah. Um, you know, if you NFL script followers, the the Patriots and chiefs have now one of them has been in the last 15 AFC championship games. See, that's not even the real script. The real script is they want they want celebrity Cardi B and Taylor Swift. And then what happened with the bills? I was the bills. Then was crazy. I mean, watch. Well, I'll unravel here. This is I didn't I didn't expect to see this. And afterwards, I'm going to tell you I'm such a casual that I just laid out. I didn't even have any feelings about it when it comes to watching football. I thought they changed the rules. Watch Rosenberg. And I'm not a bills fan, but would share this with bills fans. We should be more and more angry. You guys should be more and more. And how on earth was that an interception? How on earth? I've been watching football for 40 years, 40 that has never been an interception. And not only do they call it an interception and Rob us of Josh Allen in a championship game, instead of the Broncos without even having Bonix in the championship game, they didn't even want to look at it. They acted like it wasn't even controversial. It was nothing was all not a regular interception. Trot up. What? This was to determine who goes to the championship game. And they acted like that was a run of the mill play. When in history is that a run of the mill interception? It was a catch down field goal. Bill's win. Insane. So now back to. So first of all, I saw that and I was like, that's always been a catch. He hit the ground in control of the ball, even if the other guys' arms was near or even around the ball. He caught the ball first. That's how I roll over and the defensive guy comes up with the ball. That's never been an interception. But then I laid out because I was like, I don't watch football as much anymore. Maybe they change roles. Right. Which is a good thought by you. So I just laid out. But when I saw your thing, I was like, yeah, I knew what I was saying. Well, listen, people are really gaslighting me in the comments. That's not even a conversation. That's an interception. Listen, we can get into a back and forth about whether he ever had possession. I understand why in fast motion, it looked like he dropped the ball very quickly. But to me and the and the Bills head coach, Sean McDermott said this to you, played you played 19 games or whatever. This game was three hours in. They the Ibro, they weren't even going to stop and take a look. No, it's crazy. Sean McDermott had to call a time out and go, can you guys at least look? And they looked for a second. Well, by the way, this is also overtime, where I thought everything got reviewed in overtime. Well, or is that it? It's I don't know if overtime, because I know in the final two minutes, everything gets looked at. Correct. Correct. Oh, I know this. It would have been on the on them to look at it. So you couldn't they couldn't challenge it. They had to get looked at by the refs and the refs were just, you know, they were about to snap the next play in 20 seconds. I'm just saying every turnover and every TD gets reviewed. That's always been a review rule. Right. Right. Because it's a turnover. So it would be reviewed no matter what. So the fact that they didn't stop to go, this needs an actual full review. They were just they were on the field on the ball in 40 seconds. So now I'm into the script writers back to the script writers. You say, Bo Nix is not starting for the Broncos. No, he's done. He's out for the year. Yeah. And so who started for the Broncos? Jared Stidham and who are the Broncos going up against? Patriots. Easy win for the Patriots. And you know, and you know, and I always said, take us back to 9 11. Oh, man, here we go. Rule. What does America want right now? Patriots America wave the flag. All of that's in the script. They want the Patriots going as far as they can. Great story. New coach. They get to tell the old Patriots story because very able to coach all of that. And they get to like wave the flag and say, we're American Patriots. All marketing. You know what? Watch for that. That's a good angle. But you know, Trump's going to be all in on the Patriots. Going to be all in on the Patriots. Drake May is good. We like Drake May something about him. I like him. I like all Drake May go to school. I don't know. Trump you. Trump University. I don't know. Where the sound says I sound like his dad. He said all black men of a certain age share a brain. Because we see a lot, man. You know, the games that play. Of course, it's the Patriots. Oh, I can't believe. Yo, we were we were one. We were one catch. One bull ish interception away from us at least having as a as a family. You know, everybody with the heart was going to be pulling for Buffalo. Yes, everybody. Yes. And instead of getting back, hopefully, the whole country, if you didn't have another team, you were rooting for Josh Allen and Buffalo. And now we get the Patriots and the Broncos. Oh, kill me. And then last night, yo, Caleb Williams with one of the illest last second plays I have ever seen in all football. Just to then throw an interception and lose in overtime. I hate to do it. Congratulations. You played yourself. Damn, yo, he just he threw it to a spot and his man wasn't hustling to get to the spot. The defensive do was picked it off. Damn, I guess that's what it was. That's what it looked like on the replay. Can I tell you the truth, though? I felt like after he connected on the last second pass, Caleb, his swag was so high. He was like, let me just chuck this thing. Chuck it over here. So like arrogant. I just felt like that drive, they didn't need to take the shot there. They could have just kept marching their way. And yeah, he wanted to highlight. Damn, if that's the case, hit the button again. But I definitely wanted to see the Bears play off yourself. I mean, the championship. Yeah, it would have. It would have wanted to see it. I would have been special. Chance, you saw Chance the rapper had the Chicago Bears. Little hype, you know, before the game song. Oh, no, I didn't. He was out there. Oh, no, he put him in Chicago Bears and did a song up and did a song. He did like a little little bar. He barred it up for the bear, barred it up for the. OK, Chance, I didn't know he barred with the Bears. I didn't even catch that. It's been moving. He got an SNL moment on his arm. He barred it up for the Bears. He was. Did you see Chance on New Year's Eve? No, no, they did New Year's Eve countdown in Chicago this year. I watched it at home with the family. Chance, oh, New Year's Eve this year. Chance has been moving. OK, Chance, I missed that. He bro with your Chance update. Laura, you should have a chance update in the in the run. I'm invested. I'm invested in a chance thing. I can't. I'm invested in a chance thing. I really love the album. I love great rapper and him being him not getting. I think his the coverage that he was getting when his when he had his other manager, I think, is a part of a conspiracy. I don't understand. Have you ever said that, though? I've said it to Chance. He won't publicly admit it, but he kind of shrugs it off. But was there some real drama with his? Not. Well, yeah, they whatever their business falling out was. But I feel like I feel like whatever the hype was with Chance when he was with his last manager, Pat. As soon as he and soon as he and Pat part ways now, all of a sudden, nobody's hype on Chance anymore because he put out one bad album according to his fan base. Really? I'll be honest with you. I just don't see him. Well, that's that's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this is the algorithm hustling people. Right. People pay for this algorithm hustling. But I just don't understand was Chance's all manager. I was always miffed by how they were so successful, so fast. And what his managers, what Pat's connection was. Did Pat have some like deep connections? I know we have money. I know Pat came for money. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. He got he got he got the last name of a big real estate agent, but I don't know if they're related. Corcoran real estate. I don't know if that's the same. It's a good conspiracy, though. I like that for your conspiracy, though. But but I will say it also looked like, look, I wouldn't claim to be like, you know, the biggest chance to rap or fan, even though of recent, I've gotten more became more of a fan as he's gotten older. And I think the music's gotten better, in my opinion. But I wasn't all the way in on a lot, how a lot of people were when like acid rap and all that stuff came out. But man, people, the social media used to go hand for for Chance. Oh, yeah, they were in. And then it's and then he gets married, has children, puts out one album that people claim isn't good, which, by the way, I compared it to other albums. I was like, what are y'all even talking about? Was it really that bad? No, they acted like he straight up forgot to rap. So how to rap? They they acted like he started rapping over frogfarts. Why are you doing that? And then all of a sudden this out comes out and it's spectacular. He's talking that talk and people are not doing the backflip. I saw some people post a little bit about him because the coloring book came out in 2016, you know, everybody was on their 2016. 16 is still going to tell you something, Lord, that was a great segue. Let me tell you something. I went back into my phone and I just scrolled back to 2016 and just started in January and just started. But I was saying I sent you guys some stuff. Yeah. Ibrahim Lauren Rosenberg got busy in 2016. Oh my God, we did a lot. I posted a couple and then and then when I saw yours, I was like, oh, yeah, I forgot about all that. I forget. Well, not only that, but the videos we used to post in 2016 for the Internet's were so immaculate and so beautiful in 2016 that if you compare that to what we were doing when we ended up parting ways. Last. Plantation. It is no, no wonder we was pissed off at the plantation on the out at this last night. It was not good. We pretty much had our own basement setup. No, no, no, but even but even though we had the main studio, we had a whole other studio. It was we had a fire. Yo, yeah, bro, we were on fire. We got to get back to that, bro. We were lit. Listen, we had great gas. It was fun. We would watch. Yeah, I would like that. That was a super outside man. Poof. Not even just in the studio in studio, out studio, out the country, out in the world, we went to Japan. Yo, we did summer jam in Japan in 2016, bro. We broadcasted our show from Japan. Remember that's right. Favorite things we ever did. Oh, really? We were moving in 2016. Yeah, we was in the stew in Tokyo at 6 p.m. And then we went out to dinner like. Ebro, Ebro, you don't say one of Laura's favorite things when we did the show live from Asia, you don't say that was what you think of this. Wouldn't have ever picked that. When I put that on my big old car, you wouldn't put that on your bingo. I looked at a poster, the summer jam. I don't know if you guys saw a poster summer jam from 2016. I saw. I saw just the just the the promo flyer. Did it look like the ones we've had recently? Not at all. My guy. 2016 was the one where a storm hit. Remember, and they canceled golf ball and I had planned for Kanye to catch a helicopter all the way over to a MetLife stadium. From when I was the one that shot arrest and piece, man, shot to Jeff Costello. Why? What was Jeff doing? Remember, he shot the documentary backstage behind the whole joint together. That's the one that's online. Yeah, where the storm hits and I'm plotting with the with the weather service to like get Wayne on stage and that whole French Montana situation, the callous, it was all of that, I think. Yeah, he did a great job. Jeff did a great job with that doc. That was when we would do content on there that would get like millions of views actually do a. Well, that was it's interesting. Everybody's like, yo, welcome to the internet. And it's like, yo, you know how much content we have this on been on the internet for, I don't know, a long time. We've only put fractions of our stuff. And I think, you know, people got it confused. Now, people forget Lore Stiles. They absolutely forget. I also was reminded over the weekend that I invented smack fest. Yes, you forgot now in the international. No, no, no, I was somebody was like, yo, didn't you? And I was like, yes, I did. Yes. And then I really thought about it when you hired me in 2011, I was a YouTube correspondent. That's right. And I was like, why? I was so mad at you. Well, you didn't even want to be a correspondent yourself. Yes, she wanted to. I was like, no, I'm telling you, this is where it's going. Oh, I don't want to do this, bro. Now look at you. Your whole life is you two. You just eat up with the button. You could have had a great. You could have led led the charge. Congratulations. You played yourself. Wanted to be on radio. Great call. Right. Riff says Rosenberg FaceTimed you from the concert. Was that Japan Summer Jam? Just stunting that you was in Japan. Oh, yeah, Summer Jam, Japan. Why'd you do that to Griff? Sounds about right. Saying no words, just stunning. I mean, I was probably trying to share. We probably said let's say I had a griff. Listen, it was 2016, you know, things were crazy out there. It was crazy. I was losing these streets. My AmEx Blue Cash Every Day card is my go to accessory. When I shop, I can earn 3% cash back on US online retail purchases. Try on the Blue Cash Every Day card. Learn more at AmericanExpress.com slash explore dash B C E terms in cash back cap apply. Listen, Laura, how was your weekend this weekend? Weekend was good. Yeah, I went to go see Zootopia 2. Ooh. It's Fuego. It's fire. I'm going this Friday. I'm taking a fan. And Ebro, it's what you expect. You know what I mean? It's like they get busy. The messaging is great. Yeah, so you guys are going to enjoy that. I went to like one of those old school movie theaters with Kenza, so we had a good time. What's an old school movie theater? Opia. It's like Yo, Rosenberg, the seats, the snacks, the, you know what I mean? The actual theater is like stuck in like the 80s, but it's cool. Really? 80s? I didn't know that was a thing. Yeah, yeah, it's really small in Brooklyn. I'll send you a link. Is that the one with like the couches and stuff where you sit down? Like you can sit down on couches and watch them? And the seats are very, very much in the 1980s. They're not that great, but it's cool. And then yesterday I had a chance to watch a screener for a really important film that I, and I texted you guys last night because it really moved me. The voice of Henry Zhab. Yeah, we got the screener for that. I got to watch. Guys, let me tell you right now. I was crying. First 10 minutes, I'm crying. Now, give the, give the backdrop. This is this film is an independent film takes place in Gaza. Yes. Yes. And it's basically about, you know, this six year old angel who, you know, this was all over the internet. I remember when it happened, but it follows the story of the rescue team, which is like, like four of them, the dispatchers there. They're in the only, I guess the only call center that's left. And they're like, somehow the uncle was able to like connect them with the little girl and she had her aunt's phone and mind you, they were all killed in that car. So she was, oh, that was the little girl in the car. Yes. Yes. It was just her with a bunch of bodies trying to survive. And her little voice will break you. It will break you. Just, you know, everything, those, those amazing incredible people were trying to do to save her life. And at certain points, you see like them using their cell phones to like record certain areas and they did an incredible job of showing like real actual footage of the real people during that moment. But I'm not going to, you know, the ending is tragic. The whole thing is tragic. The whole thing is obviously it's horrible, right? But it's just like, it made me think, right? Because we hear that and we see the headlines and war, bombs, murder, killing, right? You become numb after a while. Absolutely. You kind of just keep scrolling and scrolling where there is because you don't feel like feeling at that moment for your mental health. But the reason this film is so important because it will remind you and it will make you feel. It's really important. Catch it at a local movie theater. One more time. The independent movie theaters are the ones that are showing it. It's called The Voice of Hind Rajab. Hind H-I-N-D Rajab, R-A-J-A-B. But it is powerful. It is beautiful. And it's heartbreaking. Is this one of those many movies that the, I guess, the inner workings of Hollywood, I've been reading these articles or trying to make sure some of these movies don't get seen or get celebrated? Or is it being celebrated? You know what, Ibram? Before this, before we got mailed information on it, someone sent us the screener and information. I didn't even know it was out. So I don't know. And I started asking friends of mine and they didn't know either. So that's why I think it's important that we talk about it and chat if you're listening, if you're watching, just look it up. But didn't you say Brad Pitt's company did it though, right? Yeah. Brad Pitt's executive producer. Yeah. So it's got good support. And shout out to Michael Skolnick too. My brother over there who's always been active and on the front lines working with us at the Gathering for Justice. Or I don't know if you guys know that name, Michael Skolnick. But, you know, before it was before it was in vogue to be, you know, he's been outside since 2016 fighting the power. He's been outside. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I both want to watch it. It's a tough thing because like that I both want to watch it and then also like because it sounds amazing. And then it's like it just re it's like do I feel like reopening the portal to feeling miserable yet again? Because you're right. I have now gotten more numb to it and kind of moved on like I don't think about it every every day. I'm sometimes I feel like that's the least we could do in our privileged lives. Yeah. No, I hear you is is is give is give a moment to feel what other people are going through. Right. Like I think I think that's kind of I know it sounds corny and cliche or whatever. But honestly, we live such many of us live such privileged lives, especially relative to what's going on in Gaza. In the West Bank and Congo and these places. Like can we get can we give 90 minutes? You know what I mean? Well, yeah, this is what I'm wrapped up in my family when I'm wrapped up in that is not night. It's not a day. It's every day, every conversation, every true. And I'm like, you know, well, you guys are you guys close your eyes to it. It doesn't mean you like give up. You and your wife are in the midst of literally a a coach almost like a a a a a a a culture reset. You've been going through for like the last minimum 18 months where you're looking at a place that your families, both both parents, both parents sides, whatever their politics are, I know your parents, I don't know hers are looking at a place where you disagree with what the government's doing and you disagree with how the country even got started and feels like you got lied to. So you're the whole thing is deeper than just you locking in for 90 minutes on a movie. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's never days that go by where I don't think or talk about it. It's not like from from from before October 7th till now, there's never a day where I like have completely checked out and I'm not thinking about what's going on. That has never happened. It's certainly a regular conversation, but that also doesn't mean that you shouldn't but also now I'm so dialed into the misery of our own country. But at the same time, we've also spent no time really talking about Iran, which is does is not great either. Well, Iran's so complicated. It's I mean, it's it's so bad. But at the same time, I mean, like, but also we do we over complicate it in the sense that there are people that are still just being tortured? Well, no, Iran's bad, right? The leadership in Iran is bad. Why it's being destabilized and whatever's going on with it right now. You know, people are claiming that Israel has something to do with that. But then you have people who aren't there, who left a long time ago, who are happy that this the the the Ayatollah is getting pushed out. And then you have people who are like, yeah, but we don't want the Shah's son back because he was terrible. I watched the thing with Fareed Zakari on CNN about the Shah and that whole situation before the Ayatollah and what set the like it's just. It's a lot. And then you and then you say to yourself, OK, after all of this may him in bedlam. Could you actually get to a place where you can have a trustworthy election, a free, fair, trustworthy election? And will America and Israel be the purveyors of said trustworthy election? Well, consider, I don't think we'll have one here. I would say no, that worries me. Like what? But that's why and that's why I say it's complicated. But it's so complicated in that, like, I literally see Israeli people. Oh, all they're posting about is what's happening in Iran. It's bizarre. A world knows it's all they're posting about is nothing in America. They're only posting about what's happening in Iran. That's all they care about on the flip side of the coin. Because of the Trump involvement or Israel involvement, you then have everybody else because there's still clearly horrible things happening. I mean, I think even on the minimum end, thousands have died in these protests. And then other people and then other people aren't talking about it. Like they don't even want to look at it because it's like, well, I don't want to be on the side of the thing that's lined up on the Trump Israel side of it. But just like Venezuela, one Trump being bad doesn't make other people good. That's right. Yeah. You know, like we are all so motivated by whatever our angle is that it's hard sometimes to even just hold empathy for whoever the people are in the place where the thing is that's happening. That's right. It's a little bit even here in our backyard, right? Here in our backyard, I've never heard. I never heard of this person, but this person Jake something. I never heard of him either. Never heard of him, but people are storing his name around like I'm supposed to know. Decided it was a good idea to get up in front of protesters in Minneapolis. And say, oh, boy. I said. I said. A few minutes later. 12 seconds later. The is that him? Is that him? Yes. Open the door. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Stop. Wait. Let them go. Let them go. Hey, hey, pull over. Pull over. Pull over. Leave it. Get out of here. Hey! We don't know him. Stop it. He's got a mouth. He's got a mouth. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. What was that? What was that? What was that? What was that? What was that? What was that? What was that? What was that? What was that? What was that? What was that? What was that? What was that? What was that? And so look, he didn't get shot, he didn't get killed. I think a couple of blows to the face, a couple of punches in the face, no big deal. And then hit him with the button. Why would you get up there on a megaphone and say that? Wait. Well, I was in the middle of putting some audio back in the thing, so congratulations. Congratulations, you played yourself. Right there? No, that's two buttons. One, we're not ready for the button, and then another button. I was trying to set something else up. But either way, I'll hit him with this. Congratulations, you played yourself. But this is, I want to say this to everybody watching right now. I don't know how many people woke up with this this morning on this Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Day. But it's important over the next several months that we don't fall into the emotional chaos. And it's going to be very hard, because you're going to want to see people get their ass whipped, or worse. You're going to want that. Don't do that. The only reason I say don't do that is because I don't believe it sets the stage for us to get where we need to be in November. I believe they take all of these scenes, and they take all of the narrative like they did during the protests during COVID. And they send the narrative into, and remember, we have Instagram, but the algorithm on TikTok can't be trusted, so your stuff's not being seen. CBS News isn't covering balanced reporting what's going on. So the narrative gets spun to people who are not locked into the internet, who are not looking at this stuff, as if these cities are out of control. When, meanwhile, vast majority, vast majority of people getting out and getting their voice heard, just like back in during COVID, when people were outside. And after George Floyd, vast majority were peaceful. And there were paid provocateurs showing up to start problems. There's videos circulating now of people who show up in masks, and they just throw a Molotov cocktail and then dip. What about, remember, when there was piles of bricks just conveniently just left in certain places? Yes. Yes, of course. They would just leave bags of bricks on the streets. Yeah. Yes. I forgot about that. That was so crazy. Wild. And they want to make sure they capture the moment to see, look how violent these people are. We need soldiers on the ground to protect everyone. And you hear people screaming in that last video we showed. It's not worth it. Let him go. Let him go. There were people escorting him away from the incident, even after he went there to start problems. And by the way, he goes there to start problems. He gets helped out of there by individuals who are there protesting, who don't agree with him. Who happened to be black? Black youth. Who happened to be black. And he's still going to leave there and continue his Nazi rhetoric of slandering people and being an evil human being despite these human beings, keeping him from getting his ass dragged down the middle of the street. Bro, Lucid, he ended up being drove in by a trans person. That's the person who drove off with him to save him. Wow. Now mind you, imagine if this was January 6th. How many people got stuck? Did anybody get graced during January 6th? They were smashing police officers, stopping police officers. Well, that was because but that was an actual violent mob. That was a legitimate violent mob versus protesters, in this case, who were being intentionally antagonized. And even in that case, they still didn't end up truly harming this guy. Right. Like I was lynched. I was like, you need to look up what that means, sir. Goodbye. Now, we have a Don Lemon clip. Rassan, can you can you I just the Don Lemon clip is funny because I want to see the beginning of Don Lemon trying to speak to this protester. The protester ends up like really like calming down. But when Don Lemon first tried to approach the protester, that was the part I really wanted, Rassan, was the beginning. You cut that part out where the protesters start talking the stuff that we love. I know. So let's just watch what you cut up, Rassan. But the beginning was the more interesting piece to me. Well, because he was too hyped up. God, OK. He was so hyped up, he didn't even know who Don Lemon was. He was like, I don't know, you fan. He didn't trust him. He didn't trust nothing. Yo, but if you. They're not just going after criminals. They're going door to door and they're targeting any black and brown person they can find. And all of America is next. If you live by a black and brown person, you're next. They're above the law. They outnumber our police. So every day of the sister agenda, you know, because there's a point where whites got to stand up and recognize that this is a white person problem and we need to represent our black and brown neighbors. And disavow, Maga. Yeah, we need to put an end to this. Need to put an end to this. We fucked up so bad. And he said that that tears when he said we have to have so bad that tears in his voice. Man, it's not like he voted Maga. I know he might have. He was like, we're so bad. Because as upset as I am, I would never utter the words, we bleeped up so bad. I would never. He goes on to say that it's something that we've been talking about on this show, which is this is that this is the end result. This is the lie. I think he says something like this is the logical conclusion. Basically, for a nation that has never addressed its past, never, never thoroughly gotten rid of Confederate flags, never thoroughly gutted the Nazi thought process and all of that propaganda, never like Germany and other nations made that sort of thing illegal. This is the logical conclusion when you allow this to just continue to fester under this false guise of free speech. Because speaking of free speech, bring up the football player that put in the genocide on his face. Aziz Al-Shahir of the Houston Texans. He got fine $11,000. Which is peanuts to him. I'm sure. I wanted to start a GoFundMe and everybody told me to side-bab. But it was just not because he needs the money, but just for the spectacle. Why do people tell you to shut your ass up? Because he's rich, he doesn't need any money. Also, I mean, it's not a, I imagine that's not a specific. I assume they find people who do anything with their eye-blown. No, when they put love you, mom, when they put God, when they put, you know, Bible verses, they don't find them. No. Oh, but I was with Rosenberg. I thought it was anybody who wrote anything. Come on, guys. You know how many people we've seen write stuff on there? By the way, what genocide was he talking about? That's an interesting one too, right? He didn't even say what genocide it was. Right. So what were we talking about? Right. Now, speaking of genocide, can I tell you my disappointment of the weekend is not even in the fact that I saw clips of Gavin Newsom agreeing with the president of the state and he said, you know, I saw clips of Gavin Newsom, you know, agreeing with Ben Shapiro that it's not technically a genocide in Gaza. It wasn't even that part that bothered me as much as why if you're maybe someone who's going to be serious about defeating Donald Trump, do you think that this is the time to just spend your time doing a podcast where you're talking to one bigot after another? I know, because it's not the first time. We've seen him do it with multiple... No, that's what he does. He wants to do this and he has a theory behind it. What is it? I would like to ask, well, that he thinks these conversations between people who are on far... He thinks there's something to gain in these conversations with these people that if you could find some common ground, maybe you can get some of their people. I would like to ask Gavin Newsom how that's going. By the way, that's a real movement. That's a real movement. I saw a whole commercial. It was like a 90-second commercial from this institute that did these studies about people in America, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. There's a whole movement, so brace yourselves, of this whole we need to sit down with people we disagree with and have conversations. And I would like to say... F out of here. That's sort of where I'm at. F*** out of here! And not because we can have conversations with people that we politically disagree with. Right? Like, I don't have a problem having politics. I can't... I've said this a thousand times. You don't like black people. I can't have a conversation with you, bro. You want black people gone. I can't have a conversation with you. So maybe I can make the case that Ben Shapiro is on the more reasonable side of right-wingers I despise to have a conversation with. I don't believe that... I don't believe that Ben Shapiro's like a white supremacist or anything like that. I mean, look, he went on the breakfast club. No, he's a... Many people go on the breakfast club. But no, I don't think he is Stephen Miller. But my point is... Because I hear your point, Ibro, first of all, I agree with you. Exactly. If you're just an out-and-out racist, there's nothing to talk about. Period. But also, even if for a Ben Shapiro type who I think, sure, you could maybe have an intellectual argument with. Gavin, the seriousness of what's going on, is this what you need to be doing with your time? Like, are you really going to be the man to try to lead us out of this muck and mire? Is you podcasting through all of this stuff rather than standing up? He's not aggressively standing up against ICE right now. Frankly, if that guy is dead serious about trying to win the election, he should probably be in Minneapolis. He should probably be out with people, talking to people, doing the thing. Not chatting with Ben Shapiro, bro. Yeah, I don't know how that plays as a governor of a different state, but... Yeah, I don't know you there. I don't know. And I'm being serious when I say I don't know how to... I hear you, but I mean... I guess it depends on whether his plan is being governor of that state or really trying to lead us against... Because he's been the one who's been the most direct about we are going to lose the country when ICE was in L.A. Remember, when ICE was in L.A. or the fire in L.A., or they're still in L.A., but when they had the National Guard there, all of that, he was very much on the front lines and very vocal and very... He was. He was. He was very much. There is a world, and I'm saying it again, there is a world where many of us do not want to see people who are going to, you know, get comfy and have these, you know, agree to disagree conversations with the people who have created the atmosphere, who have supported and helped create the atmosphere we have right now. I am one of them. But best believe as we get to the midterms or we get to the next election cycle, we are going to be inundated with people who are trying to be like, we need to hear both sides. That's how we bring the country back together. But once again, like, for instance, if you're a person that's like, yeah, January 6th wasn't violent, I can't have a conversation with you. You're a liar. Like, you're a stone cold liar. Well, that's the question. If you think that Confederate flags and Nazi propaganda just falls under free speech, you can't rock with you. You're a stone cold liar. It does fall under free speech, but I can't rock with you. So the question is, how many people are like that all the way over there and there's nothing to be talked about? And how many people are there enough people there who voted for Trump, who may be looking around going, this isn't exactly what I wanted. But that's where Joe Rogan and the likes are going where they're like, no, I didn't want ICE doing all this. Even though, and by the way, I would, before I have a conversation with you, I'd have to ask you, how did I know that this was going to happen? And you didn't. That means you didn't believe what they were saying. That means that you listened to him talk and you did not believe or you heard them talk and you didn't say, well, how are they going to round up 2 million? They're claiming these numbers 2 million, 21 million people who came up. How are they going to find these people? So that means you're dumb. So that might also be another reason why I don't want to talk to you is because you're an effing idiot and I can't take you serious because why did my dumb ass, who is not as rich as any of you guys or even have access to any of these people. I was able to discern that it would be a stone cold disaster if we run around and round up millions of people. How did I know that? And you didn't. So I guess I can't have a conversation with any of these MFs, bro. I can't do it. Because they thought it was just leftist propaganda. No, you thought it was just like, oh, politicians say crazy-ish. Yeah, they just say they're crazy. They say whatever. They don't really mean it. Listen, Ibrahim, nobody is asking you or me or Laura, thank God, to have a conversation with these people. The question is, if there's going to be a free election, because again, I don't really believe we have a choice. I think that democracy is probably over. But if we are able to have free elections, the question is though, is there a candidate who could get some of those people? That's the question. Are there people who- Well, I think that's the game Gavin News from the Shrine of Play. He thinks apparently, now we'll say this, him talking with Charlie Kirk in wake of his killing, does age very well for Gavin News? It ages- And that's what he wants. He wants it documented. It aged well. That he was willing to have combat. Correct. Because there are those new, you know, there were those new Charlie Kirk people who became obsessed with him after he died, who were like, he just seemed like he was X, Y, and Z. Another batch of buffoons I can't talk to. Shut your bitch's ass up. I can't do it, man. Shut up. Well, Ibrahim, that's why we're not nominating you. You're not in the role. That's also why we're here on YouTube. He said I'm not willing to have the combo. Yeah, I don't- and I'm happy with the YouTube part, but we can't run you for president. No, that's why. That's why I can't work. They won't let me work for, you know, whatever, whoever owns I-97 anymore. I'm not- Yeah. I'm not fluctuating. I'm just not. I can't. Well- And by the way, I want the audience to know whoever's watching today, do we got people today? Do people wake up with us today? People are. Listen. They're not here today. They're here. It's all right, man. People are here and active. I did. I did. Even though I feel great that we're not doing that show anymore. Like I've woke up multiple days and been like, you know, I'm so happy I'm not doing that show or working anymore. I have. I still looked in the mirror and was like, yo, why can't you just do as you're asked and told? Why can't you do it? What is wrong with you? I don't believe you actually think that though. I mean, jazz have talked about it. I've been like, yo, why can't like, because I start thinking about my children and I start thinking about like, yo, like safety and this content lives forever that we're putting out. And later on when my kids are older and they see stuff and like, why can't I just be like, yeah, let's bring the world together. And you know, I believe the children are the future and you know, land in a free home and where did you land? Do you land on your asshole? Where'd you land? I landed on hit the button F out of here. Oh, button or F out of here? F out of here. That other button is now formally the other button. Okay. I can't do it. I cannot do it. And you know why? Because I need my kids to know stand for something. Be don't get caught up in materialism. Don't get so caught up and having nice things that when push comes to shove, you're not willing to middle finger every goddamn body in sight. So that whole set of you looking in the mirror was just for you to pop the crowd at the end because because I'm a hero and I told my kids we stand for nothing. Pop and I looked in the mirror and I said, why can't you just do what the others do? Listen, I jokingly say that all the time. Why? Why didn't I do blank or why I could have done blank? And then I go, but I couldn't have done that because it's not who I am. Now in one sense, I'm patting myself on the back where it would be good because you stand for something. And then in another sense and I'm like, but also why spend time debating it because you know it wasn't in your DNA. You weren't capable. But I but you do have to reflect man because look, you do you do have to go. Why can't I just and it is not who I am. But you also let's not act like you're a moron and don't know time and place. Like you do. You do it when you have the platform to do it. I have I feel like I have an obligation as a black person in America, a black American with a Jewish mother that when I am on a microphone and we are having conversations about things that matter in this society and in the world that I have to stand my ground. That's now you know, we're in a business meeting and it doesn't have anything to do with, you know, socio political righteousness, blah, blah, blah, freedom and liberation. Sure, we got conversations about money and capitalism and making money and all that stuff. But as soon as it delves into making sure the common person is okay and we like at least give people a chance and some hope. I can't just keep kicking people when they're down, bro. I just can't. I can't do it. I mean, we and we made this our home to do so. That's just what it is. Like our show is that. But put on my dancing music because every now and then, you know, you got to do the dance. I don't you got to keep a job. This isn't a really food in the fridge. You know, I'm saying, oh, gotta do the dance every listen. Just dances have been done. Just not it's just not as many as others. It depends on the dance floor. It depends. I'm on a different dance floor. I'm not going to some of them dance floors. That's the problem. I'm not showing up to them clubs and trying to get in them clubs as someone said in the chat earlier, I mean, they said, they said breakfast club is dancing with the stars. I thought that was a bar. Come on. Dancing with the stars is crazy. By the way, I'm paying attention to a chat. Shout to everybody. Check it in man. You guys are amazing. 1.8 K. Hello. Hi. And listen, because they're like, they're mad at me because they're saying why? Why? Why no merch on a Monday? We sold out. We sold out. We have some more amazing, amazing designs coming your way. I listen. I tried to get more merch on a Monday and I was told it's too soon. You want to drop another one today? I was going to drop another one today. A new one. I just chill chill chill. We got plants. We got plants. You bro. Ibrahim and Laura over here act like we're running supreme. They want to have they want to have all the hot drop. People support us, please. They just want to buy our damn shirt. They just want to rock for the team. And they did. And they did. We did really well. More way more than I thought we were going to do. I was so happy. I know. I know. Laura. Laura's initial number speculation was so you know, the disrespect that she had for the family, the EL army. I did it. Not a Ebro. The EL army is she she liked that one. That was fire. Except for you spelling it. ELR M E E. Well, I don't know. I spelled it. I spelled it ELR M Y. And then I put in R M E E just to be funny. So it's not it's Fox slash EL. No, no, no. So the Fox are the friends of the show. That's everybody. OK, OK. We will we will hope to establish an EL army though. Yeah. That's good. That's out here fighting the streets. Well, and we'll have, you know, then we'll have merch that's associated with the EL army. You understand? And we got fatigue, hoodies, get some camo going. Popping, you know what I'm saying? I just thought I thought you both thought we wouldn't get it. He thought he thought we'd read it. ELR my so he wrote ELR me. I spelled it out. But I think that it's up there. But I like the reason I like it is because, you know, I love the guy. I love him. But let's just be honest, Joe Budden stole thoughts from us that acted like he invented it. So now if we use it, people are going to think we're stealing it back now that we joined the Internet for the first time. They're going to think we still use in Fox, though. Did he keep using friends of the show? I don't know. After he stole it. I don't think he kept using it. I think you think you think we can take it back freely? Well, there's no take it back. We never stopped using it. But we were on the radio. We brought Hebrew. We weren't on the Internet. We were just on the radio. No one knows what we existed. You know, oh, well, we weren't. We weren't really doing it like that. And it was shows that he brought in a morning creation. Stop it. Anyways, that whole thing, that whole conversation we just had, though, that turned into, you know, why, why we do what we do and how, you know, Hebrew can't just play, play games. It was really just overall, though, you know, Gavin Newsom, if you're going to get serious, get serious or if we need someone or we need someone else to get serious. I got someone. I got someone. You do? Who's that? Stephen A. Smith. Oh, God. I know you said that you haven't ruled out running for president in 2028. How seriously though, are you considering it? I'm considering it. I'm considering it in all seriousness because I've had very, very serious people approach me about it. I have no desire to be a politician. I work for ESPN. I work for ABC. I work for Walt Disney. I'm doing quite well. Life is good, you know, and I love my job. I have great bosses. You know, I have my own YouTube channel. You know, I have a partnership deal with Sirius XM for two, not one, but two radio shows. I hope y'all had a wonderful, happy holiday season that God has blessed all of you. I have my own production company where I'm producing scripted and unscripted content. Plus, I'm doing first, taking one. I got a lot on my plate and I'm thoroughly enjoying it. I've worked very, very hard over the last several decades to be in this position and I like my life. But the flip side to it is that, you know... So he's getting approached by powerful people to run for president. I wonder why. It's because you do the dance, Stephen A., and they know you'll get up there and do the dance. And they would love to put some money in your car for you. Let's get you up there in your pinstripe. Stop short. Now, do you think Stephen A. and I are in a good place right now, Rosamund? Nope. Probably not. Nope. And here's me in the chat. Yeah! Listen, I say this as someone who loves you, Stephen A., do not run for president. If you want to get this thing back on the rails or give it a hand. He's not running for president. Please don't. When he said I'm considering this in all seriousness, that's when I knew he wasn't serious. I know... There's... Yo, Stephen's situation is so good right now. He would absolutely alienate people. He wouldn't win. I mean, being... I think that's a reasonable... You know, I don't think he could... I don't think he could win. Again, I don't know who Stephen's base would be, right? Because so much of Stephen's appeal is that he pisses people off on all sides. The whites hate him, the blacks hate him, the every... He's got people who hate him everywhere. I don't know what he would make as his base. It would make a lot of noise. But would it help his... Ibrahim, you're talking about doing the dance being, you know, doing the things you got to do to make money. Would running for president... I just don't see how it helps Stephen at this point. Like he's... I don't see it. I do... Listen, it's a fun... It is a fun thing to keep going. But come on. Is he really doing that? Is he that interested in politics? I don't know. We shall see. I hope there's someone... What I was trying to say though is I didn't mean Stephen A. Smith. Someone else needs to come along here and get serious. Well, we'll see what happens, man. Let it play out. We don't have a lot of time, man. We don't have a lot of time. It looks like... Listen, we may not have an election, so... Well, yeah, we'll see. There are definitely people I would love to have on this show that are on the internet saying there is no world where we're not having elections or midterms. They literally, they've already started. And I hit a few of them like, please, can I talk to you about this? Because why do I believe that if it gets violent enough, they could suspend the elections? And say that it's unsafe. But midterms... Well, they didn't hit me back. But midterms have already started. And not only that... What do you mean they've already started? I mean, there's places already having Senate elections, different things that are already like on the rails to, you know, having... Oh, oh, you mean that has primary... Primary... Primary, local, state, all types of things that are like around the corner in weeks. Oh, oh, because it would be, in theory, you'd be having primaries in the spring... Right. ...to then have the generals in the fall. And like King Lou just said, there's just going to be ice at every voting situation. That part. That part. That's the way from voting. But here's the solution to that. Early vote or mail in ballot. Damn, they're every state has it. Yeah. Oh, you know what I mean? If you're worried about being antagonized by jabronis who think they're tough running around with their little jobby job, hoping to get their little $50,000 bonus and, you know, antagonizing moms, you know what I mean? Just vote early. We haven't even mentioned the Greenland thing, really. How embarrassing it is. It's so embarrassing, bro. Hit the button. Hit the button. I don't know what you mean. I'm with you, Rosenberg. It's beyond embarrassing. No, you... There's nobody here. And then there's the other button. God, congratulations. You played yourself. That's the other button. Is it weird, Laura? I want to go back to the Greenland for a moment. But Laura, is it weird? Am I just being that person that for some reason... I'm curious for the chat. Maybe put a poll up in the chat. I was shot down when I brought this up. But there's something post-radio that isn't hidden from me about congratulations. You played yourself anymore. Because the beat don't drop, man. Maybe that's it. The beat don't drop. And maybe we could get that white listed and we could do it. And we could drop the beat. Yeah, because it was that we had a dedicated conversation. Now we just put, you know... I don't know. But there is something about it that, like, reconciling. Weeks of the radio so much that that makes me not like it. Also we get a little crazy with it. When I say we, I mean, Ibro. Where he says to say it 93 times a day. And by the end, I'm like, alright, man. I can't congratulate anyone. But I just feel like I'm associated. Maybe if you brought... Maybe if you came to the table. I like it. Your right. In fact, we're supposed to get to Laura's rundown today. Which has a whole intro that I thought was great that nobody's even got to yet. Actually, we... I have... All I have is a demo version. Okay. Can we try the demo? So we have a Laura version We're working on what the permanent one will be In the meantime, I believe I like hot rod ricks, but that's for the first of all that's for the lowdown Hot rod ricks is low down Not run down. I think Oh Got the rundown turned that up Screens on blow when she pulled up But we still And then the beat comes boom back in there, but I sure as be he didn't he didn't send us that version I shortened that down to that and then he's got to give us the instrumental to have it kick off right there What do you think of that? What do you think of that though? I like it? I like it. Well, it's like it's a little generic But what I really liked about is that the the lights still flashing line. I thought that was hard I said, you know, I like that I think it sounds good. You enjoy it. Jett makes people want to dance. All right, cool So hopefully by tomorrow we'll have it with the proper instrumental But that was the edit me and Griff put together to kind of tighten it up. All right. Thank you very much Thank you very much and speaking of dancing, April the world will dance when bad buddy Hits that stage now, you know over the weekend bad bunny just hyped up everyone when he released his I guess you could say the Commercial for the Super Bowl halftime. It was yet another commercial. There's been several But this one was this album music Super Bowl halftime show and this ad they put out is I mean Perfection could it be? Yes, it was beautiful It was to buy lane or with a blender has people from all walks of life You know dancing with El Conejo Malo, but I thought it was so beautifully done, man I don't think I saw that one different person. I mean and he covered it all Rosenberg I guess I saw the shorter one that was just Ebro talking saying Yeah, this isn't me talking this is him dancing and as he spins around with different people different You know people from different walks of life pop up and he's dancing with men and women and grandmas and black and white and Asian and fathers Yeah, like bringing the whole world together and I gotta say man you know for me This is the kind of this is the kind of protest and pushback I like to see Hmm Right where you have people completely Trying to act like this hat this Super Bowl halftime show is gonna be some sort of Exclusionary thing because he's not speaking English But not realizing that music even if you don't understand the language is what brings people together at a time when So many people are divided over different issues Like this joy and dance moment That's how you bring people together man Check it out cuz all it is is pure joy. That's all it is Rosenberg. It's gonna make you smile I'm gonna go back and I didn't I don't know why I didn't catch that one I saw kept seeing the other one the short one, but I'm gonna watch it Yes, yes, yes, so that that was were you were you trying to hit on me voice in the Super Bowl stuff? It's the opposite. That's the one I just said that I yeah, but it sounded like you were like I just kept seeing the Ebro Lord. I have a question. Did it sound like that when I said it I didn't take it like that you bro. He literally just We were hyping your ass up with your voices all over the Super Bowl when you weren't here and we had we were on the show We were hyping you up crazy. Yeah, dear. You know, I don't trust y'all. I was great. Yeah, you're Lord He's so sensitive years of trauma of you guys wanting to see my downfall Every time I get popping out here, you know Laura Stouts bear me down. Yeah, look and now we said and now is downfall cam and we're stuck with him. Look at us Okay, so the headlines are out right that Nellie and ludicrous were part of you know, Kid Rock's Country music festival But then over the weekend they were saying ludicrous pulled out That's the wrong headline by the way. That's not what happened I Spoke to Shakazulu a good friend of mine who text me after the show and Was basically like he sent me the flyer and said we were never on this show They tried to book us and jump the gun. I personally think it's a hit job and would appreciate you getting this out for me Wow So he never pulled out because he never agreed He was never on the show and so people who are framing it like he pulled out of Everyone is everyone everyone's framing as he pulled out because of the backlash. Well, damn. That's well. That's messed up, bro They they should really put that out as a formal statement what it sounds like what it reads like to me is the offer came They were debating whether it made sense and while discussing it They just the the guys who were doing it just put it up like oh, yeah, he's doing it. That's what it sounds like to me but also Wouldn't Luda get a little bit more grace from us What has Luda ever aligned with that has been questionable? Historically politically, I just think that people don't know anymore. We were all surprised when Didn't the right didn't this this righteous right attack ludicrous and make him lose his pet the endorsement Yeah, hello Riley was it hasn't he was already that's before this era. Yes That's that's the that's the that's the old era the old era that what that we that we thought was the worst era you could have So and y'all in the chat Let us know but I don't remember Luda ever popping up being Aligned with this sort of stuff No, I don't even think that's it either but people change I'm telling you you see all these artists now that are all of a sudden. It's like yes, they're okay with it They're okay with doing that dance not only I think people are just kind of like we don't know what to expect We don't know anymore. Not only that not only that but it's the internet, bro There's no there's no grace. There's no wait a second this person is never I was saying I was more saying us And kind of like, you know the more logical us. I don't expect that from the internet. You're right Yeah, they you could literally have been perfect your entire life and then they see they hear something That's not even true and they're ready to end you so good to hear Luda's not doing it So Nelly's just rolling with it though. He's good. Well, y'all know where Nelly's at man We know how we had him on the show Yeah, but he didn't go there's no middle ground man on the Trump thing bro. I'm sorry There isn't we guys. There's no middle. There's there's just either And I'm on the dance floor doing the dance Or I'm not I Don't like his rhetoric. I don't like his policy. I don't like what he stands for By the way, there's Republicans who are willing to say that Very few like you know I'm saying like I don't even know why people are acting but usually and and you know Nelly and I had a You know people you gotta fend Recall what he got offended when we had that conversation It was unhappy with how it was framed. Yeah, that's that's a good way, but but here we are again Nelly An opportunity for you to say, you know what kid rock not not so much and we ain't heard of Pete No, he's I That's where he stands. Well, why I'm saying he had an opportunity to be like, you're not I want to be on this festival I'm not aligned with this. Why I just don't understand it like Now that he has I know I know this I don't want to count people's money But you've got enough money to skip this one, bro. You don't have to go stand next to The outright Edward dropping gun toting Beyonce hating racist. You don't have to do this But maybe he doesn't care at all Well, yeah, I mean listen some people think it's all you know, we got there at member, you know, both sides are bad, bro I mean, shoot. It's all the same. They're all politicians. They're all the same I said he politician you think Obama was so good. He was the poor people, right? But you're willing to get you're willing to go to kid rocks festival And what would it how did you describe kid rock one more time Rosenberg an n-word dropping gun toting Beyonce hating racist Yes That's enough for me Well, that was Nelly a go with that. I just don't understand what he's doing. Yeah. Come on, man. I shan't he talked to him Not all money is good money, bro. And some money some money is gonna help prevent your money in the long run Well, I got news for you this put this moment in history won't be forgotten this won't this won't get forgotten like you know James Brown posing with Richard Nixon or you know easy E up there with Reagan or Michael Jackson up there with Reagan This won't get forgotten like that. Well and for good reason We thought at the time it could get no worse than Hanging out with Ronald Reagan boy. Where we wrong? We didn't know listen the man sprinkled some crack all through the hood You know he destroyed hundreds of thousands if not millions of lives, but it wasn't like this That was just regular president talk at the time. This is different. I was I was just CIA trafficking drugs to fund a war We we accept that that's what I said That's what America is we accept that this though. This is different Laura you ready for the lowdown? Hey, no, she's not ready for lowdown lowdown today It's my my lowdown with Stephen A man. We already dragged him No, no, I want to be clear y'all dragged him because me. Oh, sorry. It's Roseberg doing that dance Mouse You need Mickey Mouse ears when you do this Oh You need to keep the Mickey Mouse ears like right next to you My let me borrow her here shouldn't you know Laura so just so we didn't finish it so the Greenland thing with the thing that I think I read an article Last night about that that like upset me the most was yo if you just hear what Danish people are saying Like there are these Danish people like What happened? Like we thought we were Wait, we thought we were friend America We helped you guys here like he literally talked ish about the Danish military being weak and they're like don't get us wrong Like we know that if y'all want to take Greenland, there's nothing we could do But like we fought alongside America we were allies. What are you? Why are you threatening us? Why are you insulting us and by the way with this supposedly they basically have already given the US free reign to Greenland They're like you could do what you need to do here. That's a real thing by the way That's a real thing, but here's the plot to us and this is what I want everybody to pay attention to in Venezuela and everywhere around the world and This Greenland thing Trump is doing this for his corporations. He's not doing it for people He is not doing this for the American people. He is doing this for corporations and his billionaire buddies Normally when you have a president trying to access minerals or destabilize a nation and put in puppet leadership, it's somehow to benefit The American people prices here keep prices low get more resources blah blah benefit the GDP This is all just for corporations to raise their margins higher To get more money, that's the whole thing it is not to benefit us in any way shape or form Wow So this is this is No But there are people out there they go. Yeah, you broke but if it benefits the money it benefits bottom line It's not it. There's no trickle down guys Has it been trickling down did Reagan's policies trickle down anybody? Oh Triggered economics, what do you need to save the country? We're doing great Everyone got rich because all the trick is Wall Street successes trickling down to you right now Yeah, I'm drowning in money. Yeah, well, we got it. We got a raise from hot No, you know It's not trickling down people all right you guys ready for the OG's ah The original gurus why you get that ready while you get that ready on this MLK day That's right the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Birthday observation Okay, what you got um this this guy follow him on social media We've I think we've talked about this on air before but it's just a it's a wonderful Martin Luther King, Jr MLK family tidbit Run the clip. Am I the only one that did not know the connection between Dr. Martin Luther King and Julia Roberts It is such a deep fascinating connection So when the Kings were living in Georgia Coretta Scott King wanted to get her children into a theater school So she's calling all the theater schools in Georgia None of them will accept the kids because they're all segregated She calls this one school indicator Georgia a woman picks up Mrs. King explains the situation and asks if they'll accept her children The woman says absolutely so she takes the kids into the school and the couple that runs this school Accepted them with open arms now this couple ran the only integrated theater and acting school during those times And it was highly frowned upon because racial discrimination was at an all-time high The couple that ran the school was Betty Lou and Walter Roberts Julia Roberts parents So the King family and the Roberts became close They developed a bond and then Betty Lou got pregnant with Julia and in 1967 Julia Roberts was born since they ran an integrated school that school struggled financially So they couldn't afford Julia Roberts birth So who stepped up and paid the bill? The Kings so the King family paid for Julia Roberts birth all because Julia Roberts parents Welcome their children into their school Wow This is an amazing story to me and an amazing piece of history big shout out to the King family Big shout out to the Roberts family. This was real dope to me Shout his name is global mind apparel on Instagram, but that's just a man an amazing story on this Yeah, the celebration of the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Yeah, that's that's a good story too because we we definitely did talk about this before but I feel like every time we do Someone who is like, oh my god. I never knew so I like it Yeah, I um, I whenever I first heard that story. I thought it was amazing. I was like, I knew I loved Julia Roberts I knew there was something just good About Julia Roberts You ready for the guru? Oh original guru. Oh gee you kidding me? Of course I am The original gurus at gmail.com the original gurus at gmail.com That's where you send us your problems that we're here to help you Rosenberg he's out there who needs us who's writing to the original gurus The original gurus at gmail.com the original gurus at gmail.com your destination Rikler Zen Hello gurus As a Jersey girl who moved to Vegas, I'm so grateful for your podcast because it gives me a little taste of home every day I love living out here, but a lot of these people are weird and I need my daily dose of East Coast Anyway, long story short. I'm basically in an abusive relationship with my boss She's a partner in a law firm. I'm a paralegal and also her assistant Some days she wants to shower me with gifts and make me feel like I'm doing a great job Other days I'm in tears on the ride home because she could be such a Cunt I Got an offer at another firm for more money. That's way closer to where I live five minutes versus 30 I'm concerned. She's gonna counter offer me more money to stay. I don't want to stay Unless she offers me a lot more money then maybe I do is that selling my soul? Yes, I Want to date I want to leave respectfully and professionally and not burn any bridges My fear is I'm gonna have to tell her that while the money is for sure an incentive To leave I also need to leave the toxic work environment. She's created. How do I approach this? Love you guys stressed out in Vegas Isn't this a group isn't this the perfect write a professional letter situation Yeah Now I guess you have to give two weeks. No, you don't don't quitting you don't do you? I mean, it's it's the professional thing to do. So right if you want to leave at least she says she'd want to burn any bridges You should so you you could write the letter Give the two weeks and Then at that point if she continued if she were to like really turn it up and make it bad for you Then you can just walk out. That's it. Yeah, but you are gonna have to talk to her She's you know, she's going to approach you about it. You're gonna have to have a conversation But what do you mean if there's more money? I'm thinking about staying you're saying you're stressed. What's wrong with you? That's a real thing Laura Stiles where people Money there people are willing to do the dance hit the music. That's right. Even if it's sure Tearing up that mental health They'll do it we've done it I Know but I'm not doing the dance right now. I think she should leave No, you're at a certain place in your life where you're not willing to do the dance But depending on where you are in your life and what how important the opportunities are there are definitely people who are doing the dance For the money in places where their mental health is yes. Yes. Yes, so great understood But in this particular case she has an offer that's closer more money Everything that she wants she's getting so I just don't see any reason for you to stay. I mean listen, it would have to be Listen, if you're gonna I'll say this if you're gonna sell your soul You better make it worth it worthwhile It better not be that the new place is giving you 20 grand more and she's like I'll give you 30 more If now if the new place is giving you 20 and she comes back and says I'll give you a hundred more and Then you won't have a conversation about it. Okay, but she's not gonna do that So a lot of times too when people get these offers and they're like oh they offered me more money You'll be like oh how much more oh twenty five hundred and I will go you know what that is after taxes So they offered you twenty five hundred dollars over the course of a year And you bust that down over the course of every two weeks plus taxes. That's like no money and you hate it Bottom line she hates it and she has a new opportunity To start a new life. So I think she should just quit do a professionally follow Rosenberg's advice Write the letter give the two weeks and just keep them moving So say the gurus bow Get down get down Easy easy you solved the problem the gurus of Really quickly y'all sat with that a rocky album by any chance. I love that rocky album I like the two listen people are out here acting like Rocky hasn't made like trap hybrid alternative music before Y'all ain't been listening My first run through it had not grabbed me yet. I gotta I gotta go back in now. I mean I rode to it Like No, it does but that's what I've heard that all multiple rocky album In eclectic no eclectic. No, I know I'm making fun of Cam Newton you didn't see the Cam Newton Where he was and his was and He said and eclectic and then he said how do you spell it and he said and collect a Yo Cam Newton is the special. Yo, we will we will put in Numbers Cam Newton doing a algorithm. What's you know, you guys know I don't trust someone as soon as I see they have an outfit That they have to wear every time no, no, no Laura Laura. Yes It was what's bro's name that had the blue Patagonia vests. Oh, no, I'm out. Oh That was my man The guy from black lives matter. Yes, was our man's name. I guess you're not seeing him anymore. We're casting Yeah, my cast direct right right great. I love the way that was a good tool Duree who wouldn't even look at me and rose I mean, bro, Duree only wanted ebri want him some ebro boy Do that. Don't do that. He was just he was focused on black lives. Y'all didn't have nothing to do with that Laura put him on the Mount Rushmore of people didn't give two shits about us. I'll put him on the Mount Rushmore Lizzo We're on the show they're like Well, no, well and back to people with outfits Anybody with a hat if you are a big brim hat, you know, if you if you just decide that you have to have a hat every time you're on camera No, but people people are trying to have an identity out here Rose where why you such a hater man I get well, you know, it's back to the original point of why can't I just do the things that would make me more successful That's right. Why like if you had like a yarmulke that you always wore that would have like some Be a beat asshole the amacadabra a bench I could be Ben Shapiro out here Yeah, for me, I like I have this weird thing is that I've always felt like if you just rely on You rely on what you're saying and what you're doing and what your talent is that should be enough to stand out You don't need to wear a uniform, but evidence suggests that uniform thing It brings off for people. I know that guy. He's the guy with the hat It's branding Rosenberg. It's the guy. Oh brandy. It's the guy with the best I love that best. Don't you see the irony? He's black If you would focus on the fact that you promised the audience an announcement today Oh, what do you mean? You think I didn't you think I wasn't allowed to show him without giving an outfit. Okay? Okay, okay, let's prepare. Let's prepare. Let's go. I check pay attention Okay, so So tomorrow It goes live because we're saving it for the start of the week today's you know what the holiday being is still kind of the weekend But as of tomorrow chat, we're gonna link you up with the official Ibro Laura Rosenberg patreon situation Which is gonna be your portal to a whole lot of content that you missed That you've been waiting to get back more content from the show every single week and It's behind the paywall, which means a couple of things music Foul language. Oh Let's dance it Not overly foul. I always think I'm pouring with nice No reason. Yeah, by the way, I remember that moment when he just drops a big F bomb in two days. Oh, I'm because So so tomorrow morning at the top of the show will drop you guys with the link and we were debating about when to do it Is it too soon? You know Ibro's a perfectionist. He wants everything to be just right But what I explained to him and I believe I'm right in this Laura Okay, is that patreon is it about perfection? Patreon is about taking the people ride with us the hardest and letting them be along on the ride on the journey to perfection They want to be with us from day one and so on the patreon will get to do Why is Wednesday things be true? Can we be day one and be great on day one? Well great and perfection aren't aren't the same thing. Well, I just don't feel like we're at our best yet That's my best in great art the same thing But I think what we're doing is still pretty great And I think people to love it patreon or have whitish Wednesday. It's gonna have us playing new music talking about new music Bring them back some classic things. It's gonna be a fun time and some behind-the-scenes Conversations. Yo, maybe even we show them the plans we can even show a sneak peek No, bro relax man relax. No means I will see relax be so to everyone who came out don't act like there's not gonna be haters in there who subscribe Oh, no, what the haters bro the people once they are Once they're throwing down some money No one throws hate more than the people who support you and think they now have a piece Nah, it's crazy. No, but there's even haters under on our chat and the ELRV is cook it up Tell you right now, you know shots the PB NYC you said y'all take snap Listen, we're gonna do what we can do this does patreon take EBD Listen still deliver here and you too for y'all Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna be here every day But this is just for the people who do want to support and want some extra content. Maybe you got a long commute You want even more that's gonna be what patreon is so tomorrow We'll drop the link for you. We're excited to do it griff griff says all over patreon is friends of the show by the way used by Joe button Say it again That's fine. It says friends of the show is all over patreon. Oh, because that's what he calls his patreon people is it makes you friends of the show? Got you. Okay. He stole it. That's what we will too. We're gonna have a friends of the show off. Yeah Facts we invented it anyway, so we'll drop you the patreon link tomorrow morning folks enjoy the love you enjoy the day off if you have it Think about dr. King today Today's a day of service or as Rosenberg likes to say a day of rest. Hey, sir rest whatever works for you, man Rosenberg could kick his feet up somewhere. He's the kicking up fetus person you've ever seen oh man I can't wait. I can't wait till we're back on like in a real studio And you guys will see how often this dude is trying to figure out a place to put his feet up I don't think the new desk doesn't lend itself to feed up unfortunately the old one though. Oh man He brought a little Rosa bark subscribe share do all the things. Thanks for listening. See y'all tomorrow I Love I'm here during the lunch rush with Janice who owns her own food truck best cheese takes and down Janice traded up to Geico commercial auto insurance for a food truck business. 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