Summary
Pablo Torre interviews Sir Mix-a-Lot about his iconic career, the viral Seattle Symphony performance, and his self-proclaimed curse on the Seattle Seahawks. The episode features an unexpected live call-in with the famous 'Lady in Black' from the viral video, creating a full-circle moment.
Insights
- Artist longevity depends on embracing signature work rather than distancing from it; Mix-a-Lot compares his relationship with 'Baby Got Back' to Bill Gates and Microsoft
- Superstition and fan behavior significantly impact athlete and artist psychology; Mix-a-Lot's belief in cursing his team led to strategic avoidance of watching games
- Authentic, unplanned moments create the most viral and memorable cultural content; the Lady in Black's spontaneous stage rush generated 15M+ YouTube views
- Cross-genre musical collaboration and openness to diverse influences (metal, grunge, hip-hop) enabled artistic credibility in competitive Seattle music scene
- Personal phone number ownership creates unexpected cultural artifacts; a law student's inherited number became a secondary narrative in Mix-a-Lot's legacy
Trends
Nostalgia-driven podcast content featuring 90s cultural icons gaining audience tractionViral moments from pre-social media era being rediscovered and recontextualized for modern audiencesArtist interviews focusing on unintended consequences and cultural impact beyond original intentSports fandom superstition narratives becoming legitimate entertainment contentReal-time social media documentation of live sports events creating secondary narrative layers
Topics
Hip-hop Music History and LegacySeattle Music Scene 1980s-1990sViral Video Culture and Internet FameSports Superstition and Fan PsychologyArtist Branding and Signature WorksSeattle Seahawks Playoff HistoryMusic Video Production and Creative DirectionCross-Genre Musical CollaborationCelebrity Phone Number OwnershipLive Performance SpontaneitySuper Bowl XLIX PredictionsGrunge vs Hip-Hop Cultural IntersectionSocial Media Impact on Sports FandomPersonal Brand ManagementAuthentic vs Staged Entertainment Moments
Companies
Sky Sports
Primary sponsor providing F1 coverage and racing content advertising throughout episode
Three (UK Mobile Network)
Sponsor offering unlimited SIM plans and 5G network services with promotional messaging
Maltesers
Sponsor brand featured in multiple ad reads discussing chocolate treats and Easter promotions
Galaxy Chocolate
Sponsor promoting the Unhumble Project confidence training initiative in partnership with Young Women's Trust
Procore
Construction technology platform sponsor mentioned as industry innovation partner
People
Sir Mix-a-Lot (Anthony Ray)
Primary guest; iconic 1990s hip-hop artist discussing career, 'Baby Got Back' legacy, and Seahawks fandom curse
Pablo Torre
Podcast host conducting interview and investigation into Mix-a-Lot's cultural impact and personal stories
Sean Bounds (Lady in Black)
Viral video star from Seattle Symphony performance; unexpectedly called in live during episode for reunion moment
Rick Rubin
Music producer credited with creative direction of 'Baby Got Back' music video including iconic imagery
Marshawn Lynch
Seattle Seahawks running back whose touchdown celebration and performance discussed in sports context
Richard Sherman
Seattle Seahawks cornerback whose playoff performance and psychological tactics discussed as iconic moment
Russell Wilson
Seattle Seahawks quarterback whose comeback performance in 2013 playoff game discussed
Peyton Manning
Denver Broncos quarterback opponent in Super Bowl XLVIII where Seahawks dominated 43-8
Dylan McCullough
Future NFL Raiders running backs coach involved in story about Mix-a-Lot's pimped-out Mercedes car
Sherman Smith
Former Seattle Seahawks running back connected to story involving Mix-a-Lot's candy apple red Mercedes
Jonathan Nichols
Law student who inherited Mix-a-Lot's former phone number and received misdirected fan messages and photos
Matt Ryan
Atlanta Falcons quarterback in 2013 playoff game where Mix-a-Lot's tweets documented Seahawks comeback
Kurt Cobain
Nirvana frontman; Mix-a-Lot discussed crossing paths and performing mashup of 'Swass' with 'Smells Like Teen Spirit'
Quotes
"I like big butts and I cannot lie. Period. Right after this ad."
Sir Mix-a-Lot•Opening
"That's like telling Bill Gates don't talk about Microsoft. No, no, no, no. Oh, no, that's my cash cow."
Sir Mix-a-Lot•Mid-episode
"I think it's my fault. So I just walk out based on the evidence. Based on the evidence so far, that dump was never more necessary."
Sir Mix-a-Lot•Seahawks curse discussion
"It was a beautiful moment. And you know, it wasn't staged. It was real life. And that is what is lacking, I think, today."
Sean Bounds (Lady in Black)•Live call-in segment
"I've been listening to you since last. And you look great. You look really great. You look really fabulous."
Sean Bounds (Lady in Black)•Live reunion moment
Full Transcript
Welcome to Pablo Tore, I am Pablo Tore and today we're going to find out what this sound is. I like big butts and I cannot lie. Period. Right after this ad. Hey, this is Martin Tommy from P1 and our podcast is currently being sponsored by Sky Sports. F1 is back on March 6 with the Australian Grand Prix and this is a proper reset. New Cars, New Rules, New Era which means chaos. Watch every F1 race live on Sky Sports, the only place with unrivaled coverage all weekend. You can also stream Sky Sports with a flexible now membership if that's more your thing. New Rules, New Cars, New Era, race into the unknown and search, get Sky Sports F1 for more details. Grab the malteseers. Because that's the ping-ping-ping of pre-ear being added to yet another group chat. This time it's Bristol High reunion hall, wine emoji, dance emoji, polka-tong emoji. Apparently to arrange a holiday with 15 women who haven't hung out since... ...Jeggings. Shove some more malteseers in because we're still debating a chat name. And frankly, have more chance of shaving a unicorn in a phone booth than the plans making it adder this group chat. We're on. June 2029. Get three months half price when you switch to an unlimited sim with three. That means quick streaming, faster downloads and more money to spend on the things you love. Join the UK's fastest 5G network and get your unlimited sim today. Buy now in store or see 3.co.uk. And a limited 24 month light plan. Proof of switching required. Based on Euclis B test intelligence data, 2H 2025. All rights reserved. Subject to credit checks and turns. Sir Mixelot aka, according to the federal government, Anthony Ray is an honor to have you on the show. Yeah, I just had to go pull stuff out of my damn studio to try to make this s*** working here. I'm in my kitchen dining room area. It's an honor. I didn't think this would happen. I've been chasing you. I've been investigating how to get to you for like a year, like on Twitter and you never showed up until now. I'm not too good at social media. I can talk a lot of s*** but the hawks. Let's talk socks from hawks. We're going to talk some hawks. We're going to talk about the way in which you might be responsible for a lot of the bad s*** that happened to your hawks. I want to get to that. I want to build to that. You didn't think you were going to get held to account on public funds out? I bring them good luck. Well, okay. We'll get to that. I just need to establish that when I was telling people friends of mine that today I'm interviewing Sir Mixelot, the reaction that I received is unique. I'm unique. Okay. Well said. The story that I tried to get you on the show for, which you were not on the show for, which I still think is the shame we can now just fill people in on this. Are you familiar with the story that I was trying to report about you and your candy apple red Mercedes and this coach Sherman Smith and Dylan McCullough? Are you familiar with this story at all? I do remember the car. It was a pretty tacky pimped out Mercedes with rims and gold s*** all over it. Oh, God, man. That's see I grew up around pimps. Yeah. Don't raise your kid around pimps. But you don't remember anything about who you sold the car to or how future NFL coach Dylan McCullough wound up getting involved in this whole tale of your pimped out Mercedes. The police, the coach bought it. Oh, oh, oh, Mix is so much you need to hear about. And I actually don't want to spoil it because it's an incredible story. It involves Sherman Smith who was a long time see ox running back. We're going to link it in the show notes involves future NFL Raiders running backs coach Dylan McCullough and a search for his real dad and you are essential to the on winding of the story because it involves the car. And you're a big car guy is what I'm also of course realizing as I look through your life story. I mean, Mr. Lamborghini is also an a K a that you go by. Oh, that just for one song. They call me Mr. Lamborghini. See me believe me we be hidden in twisties. You know that kind of stuff. You know, I need to tell you that when I was in high school, I had a we had a class called speech and we had to give some oration in front of everybody else and people were doing, you know, the Gettysburg address and some MLK, right? So it's that kind of a thing. And I get up there as a freshman in high school and I do baby got back and I didn't go great for me in speech class with Dr. Dracamo. Look at you now, man. You blossom. The most painful B plus I ever received was because I put that. Come on now. You're spoiled. You must be used to A's. That's right. Only A's I got in high school was, hey, what's up, man? Hey, that's all I got. I want to understand what young Sir Mixellot was like because the technology part of your origin story, you were a tech guy before you were a music guy. That's what got me into music. It wasn't music that got me in a tech. It was tech that got me into music. If it stayed guitars and drums, I would have never gotten involved with music. But when the technology got into it, it made me curious. So you're growing up in Seattle. You're from Central District, yes? And you paint the picture for people who have never been or unfamiliar with what that all felt and looked like and sounded like at the time? Well, like I said, I'm a little older than you. A bit older than you. Just a little. Nineteenth and yes,ler at that time was where PIMPS and Hose did what they had to do. So that's where I came from, really. So PIMPS Hose slamming Cadillac goes. That's what I was around. So that kind of pushed me towards hip hop even though hip hop wasn't born yet. And that's kind of where I'd come from. But my mom wasn't going to let me be no PIMPS. I got as close as I could to that and that was it. And that's where hip hop comes in. So I could talk about PIMPIN, but don't be PIMPIN. I want to point out because you alluded to your age and the generation you come from. And if you are in fact 62 years old, you should be selling skincare products. But I say my mom is to say black, don't crack. But it does wrinkle. I want to put a wrinkle in the story of the song that got me a B+. When I was in high school that has been the song that everybody knows you for because I didn't realize that this is also a Super Bowl story. It's Super Bowl week part of why you're here. Has something to do with the commercial? There he is. What a happening dude. What the **** was that? What the **** people not doing. There are a few things that are as 1988, 89 as what you just saw. That is a bull terrier named Spuds McKenzie that was the star. A bonafide American commercial superstar. And this is a Budweiser ad and all that ****. I want to draw everyone's attention though to of course not just the dog, but the women in the ad. Because mix that is that's what beauty was in American life. Yeah. Wife. That's a very literary description for the skinny and the extraordinarily white palette of beauty standards along Madison Avenue at that point. Beauty rhymes with booty. I think God made it that way. But for people who don't remember, you were a heretic on some level. Daring to say these truths out loud when you did. It was something that African American culture had been doing since before I was born. I used to hang out in front of the prime manner and a lot of pimps would be running out there. They pop in game and we call it pop and corn. But just, you know, they just dropping little nuggets. If we're sticking in my head, that's where my hip hop chef stuff came from. But that's all they would do. Everybody would walk behind the chick and be like, Oh, yeah, that's me. And so the real question I need to ask you is when did you know what your first line in your most famous song was going to be? I said, the first line should be simple because at that time, I was doing a lot of fast rapping and spitting and showing skills and all that. And I said, you know what? Time out. Big butts and I cannot lie. You other brothers cannot deny. I like big butts and I cannot lie. Period. Because it's true. Your honor. I like big butts and I cannot lie. And for people who are just listening to this, you're missing out on what we're doing on YouTube because the shot, the aesthetics of the music video are also so. Perfect. That was scary to me because I'm like, what the hell it looks like a cartoon in here. But Rick Rubin said, trust him. So I trusted him and sure enough, he pulled it off. I'm sorry. Hold on. Rick Rubin is responsible for why there is a 50 foot yellow butt in that video. He was paying the bills. There you go. Hey, you, Connor, if I'm getting arrested, arrest that man first. I didn't realize that, you know, the Yoda style character that Rick Rubin has been regarded as over time. His contribution to this piece of musical history was we need mix to sit in between to cartoon giant ass cheeks and rap. Yep. And then a lot of, you know, the joke, most of my homeboys is like, yeah, I saw your video. You look like a piece of shit. I was like, I was like, damn, that's a good point, actually. I had on Brown and Black too. Oh my goodness. I was able to much. What were your demands when you were making this video? Because okay, Rick Rubin does the mountain range of ass, but what did you want out of your giant debut experience? Well, the whole time I'm doing the video, I'm trying to figure out, we need a scene that's going to make something credible here because I don't want to be the goofy guy that made that one big song. So thank God I came up with a couple of other things to like the hat and stuff of that shit. So people don't only think baby guy back, they remember posse and Broadway and my hoop D and people don't realize I've gone platinum a few times. Yes. Well, this one's. I want to get to the uvra because it is extensive and arguably as deep as the valley that is that giant ass crack that we just saw. But your phone number, are you, are you aware? Of the legend of your phone number. I'm not even referring by the way to one hundred mix a lot. One nine hundred mix a lot and kick them nasty thoughts, which unfortunately does not connect to you because I did dial it. I'm referring to the story of the guy who got your personal phone number in Seattle after you had it. Have you ever heard about this guy? I just heard about this like two weeks ago. Two about two weeks ago I heard about it. I'm like, okay, what the hell? Poor fella. So it's 2013. A law student named Jonathan Nichols had moved from Iowa to Seattle and he was looking for a new number area code 206. So I went into the rise and store. I just picked the one that was the easiest to remember and went with it. And within a few weeks, months, I started getting random texts or voicemails for Anthony and or mix. And then I started to think maybe he was pretty successful because they were from Maserati dealerships or Lamborghini dealerships. And then I started getting demos, YouTube demos saying, hey, mix, we should work with this guy and to all these folks, I just said, wrong number and you got the wrong guy. I didn't know I couldn't put two and two together until my phone was blowing up with happy birthday messages and a lot of people referencing, baby got back and saying happy birthday. So mix a lot and I was like, no shit. So I just googled him and I'm like, sure enough that is his birthday, his name is Anthony. And some of the ladies started sending me text messages from around the country, different area codes. And the funniest one was this one lady sent me a picture in a mirror with her backside show and saying something to the effect that I still got something that you like or you cannot lie. Oh God. I hope he wouldn't say names. Okay. I'm embarrassed. That's crazy. And I responded with wrong number and then she sent me another. Her response to that was sending me another selfie full front. It says, remember me now. I just need people to appreciate that Jonathan Nichols could not be more the photo negative of Sir Mixelot in terms of just his general vibe. I feel bad for that guy, man. I think he basically said, if I had to go to translate, he said, whoever owned this phone had hose and different area codes. I was a little loose back then. The thing that he sent back, by the way, because Jonathan, God bless Jonathan, because what he does is apparently he's with his then boyfriend at the time, of course, who took a photo of Jonathan's face and sent it back to an interested party who had reached out to you. And she called me right away and was mortified. I'm so sorry, baby. I'm so sorry. And I told her not to worry about it. And I wasn't going to do anything creepy with it. I deleted the photo. But that story was the funniest to just be me as a gay guy, getting a full frontal from random women around the country. Well, I wish I had his phone number because if you get any more full frontos, I'll take them forward and right to me. Let me shut up because we'll take that literally. Just as a general curiosity, how has it been over time to be the face and the voice of butts? Take the truth, man. Fear about 40 now. Your baby got back, fan. Yes, I'm 40 years old, exactly. If you're older than that, you go to my deeper stuff, right? So I get a lot of people that hate baby got back. They go, man, man, you under, man, that's like I'm underestimating myself, right? It's like, no, no. They like where I'm spitting, like lock jaw, auto songs where I'm just flying through them, right? Oh, no, another flow show from the young black animal, I can't talk. But everybody likes baby got back and people say, well, you should tell people to stop interviewing you about that song. I'm like, you think I'm fucking it? You got to be a great man. That's like telling Bill Gates don't talk about Microsoft. No, no, no, no. Oh, no, that's my cash cow. But when I tour, when I start spitting, they like, when the fuck did this happen? And that's what I really grew up doing. You got back was just a funny idea that I thought would be offensive and that's it. Where should they start on the list of songs that Sir Mixellot wishes people knew that he also made? What's the, what's number one on the list? I mean, if you look at the numbers, the numbers are scary when you see that it's challenging. Some of the songs are challenging baby got back for plays. Yeah. I mean, look, my hoop, the back in your car, it turns out. And it's a real car. What do you, it's a real car. It's a car I actually had. Yeah, I call it excesses puke green. Which takes us by the way to another music video involving a different car because now we're talking about beepers. Seattle in this era, right? Because it's late 80s, early 90s. Seattle outside of your aesthetic cinematic universe, which we're now painting for people. We're talking about grudge, right? In sports, it's kangaroo, junior and Gary Payton and Sean Camp. But musically it's Pearl Jam, Sound Garden, Alice in Shanes and Nirvana. That was like, buy, buy, to rap for like four years. It's not. It wouldn't know. I wasn't no big deal. I love grunge. I love the dirtiness of it, you know, the way it sounds, the way it's played. I love, I wish they did more seven string stuff, but they didn't want to sound like metal. What was your relationship like with Nirvana? You know, it's funny. We cross paths. Hey, how you doing? We'll see you in the next show. But I never did a show with them. I have a song called Swass and I mixed it with smells like teen spirit on the chorus. And I did it in front of them and I thought they were going to be like, f*** off. That's what I thought they were going to say, but they loved it. So I'm like, whew. Somebody redo baby got back. I don't know if I'd be that calm. I don't know how you would best remix baby got back, but you've done in your catalog. You've done a lot of genre mixing. You've sampled, we will rock you into black Sabbath. Metal stuff, right? Mud honey pops up on another track. Yeah. Well, you know, I was bust, right? So I lived in the CD, but I was bust to the north end and going to Roosevelt. So I had, I was exposed to the metal and all that stuff back then. And I didn't give a damn if you were black, white, frog. I don't care what you were. I just, if it was cool, I'd listen to it. I've never heard someone say black, white frog with the frog community finally getting representation. Right. The green guy's got to get it. But speaking, speaking of creatures that know how to use their legs, that motherf***er can be quake. I know we're going to talk about it. We got it. We don't talk about that. I'm shooting your ass. Hello, it's Greg James from The First and the Curious. Our podcast is currently being sponsored by Sky Sports. Someone's doing well. The new F1 season kicks off on March 6th in Australia. And this year, we're heading into a proper new era, new cars, new rules and new teams. It genuinely feels like we're about to race into the unknown. 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That's Martian. No problem. And what I'm saying back to that touchdown. What a run. Martian Lynch. He's dancing his way for the touchdown. The end of it. Oh, the bass. Oh, yes. When he flipped and grabbed his ball sack and said, eat this motherfucker. Ooh, you can beat that out, but that. I don't care what nobody. It's arguably the greatest moment in sports history. You were to argue that I would say, yeah, that makes sense. And the Richard Sherman tip, the Richard Sherman tip and he, oh, we immaculate. You're the stuff he's deflection. Yes. And what was weird about him? It was like a polar opposite Richard Sherman going back and forth when he's, he's like, yeah, he's good. He's good. Don't never put that motherfucker on me. When you try me, what a star receiving like Cratchy, that's the result you won't get. Don't you ever talk about me? Who was talking about you? Cratchy, don't you ever hear my fucking best. That motherfucker shit of bitch was wondering for someone there. They f***ed that s***. Then he walks over to him and goes, and he wonder why he got his hand knocked. That's like s***. That's some psychological s*** right there, man. Let me go walk up after I just call him everything, but the child of God. I'm gonna call him a bastard in his face and then shake his hand. The thing that I have to get to though is of course the curse of Sir Mixellon. The curse. The curse. There are lots of curses in sports, curse of the bambino, Steve Barberman with the cubs. Lots of curses out there. This one is now my favorite one because it's Super Bowl week and your Seahawks are playing the Patriots. But this, to set the scene here, we're going to the 2013 playoffs. And the 2013 playoffs. You guys are playing the Atlanta Falcons. Hosting this division around playoff game. They've been so dominant here. What do you remember about how this game was going when all of this? I don't remember s***. Nothing. I did what you're talking about. Let me jog your memory, sir. I knew you would. It's a tough game on the road. Marcian Lynch. Atlanta has her coming. That was the initial. And by the way, Matt Ryan, Dawkins quarterback of course, he's doing great. Welcome to lobby white. 20 to nothing lead for the Falcons. And at some point, I suppose right around this moment actually, at the real mix, logs on to Twitter. Quote, I'm driving home through Cali and this game has me pissed. Road rage time. You're in your 2012 infinity QX 56. Ring of bell. Oh yeah. I have another one too outside. I got a new one. Good truck. In this one, it was road rage time. And I mean, fourth quarter down 27 to seven. Siobah's coming back. Russell Wilson. And Wilson will run it in for the touchdown. Earl Thomas. Ryan. Close it down the field. It's interception. Don't look now. They're from the sea. Nine minutes left. And then, and we have to triangulate this, okay? The time of your posts against the game clock. Because at this moment, you tweet, quote, driving hard and stressing out with a photo of your odometer. Which is touching 80. Oh my god, which was not legal then. It's not legal now actually. But it's just the emotional roller coaster. Double the ball, but then it's picked up by a. You tweet again, quote, OMG, a zillion exclamation points. Biggest road come back in playoff history. And then less than 30 seconds ago, Matt Ryan the Falcons. And the radio broadcast kind of tells the story better than I could. Seattle bringing pressure. Matt's going to throw Gonzalez the catch. 35 Tony tackle 31 yardline. Tom out Mike Smith. They hit Tony Gonzalez. The great tight end. Matt Bryant the kicker. And it is good for Matt Bryant. And you tweet again in your infinity, quote, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Now that's why I should have been a news reporter. That gives you. It's depth in that. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's what I was saying in my car. And the car is continues fall 2013. You remember this game. Colts. No. You don't remember your see hocks getting a kick block for a touchdown. Take it a giant L. It didn't happen. Yeah, never have. You remember a couple of weeks later, you're down 21 nothing to the box at home. No. Here's the thing that happens in that game, right? So and this is what we are told by sources close to you. No. Your brother has a suggestion. He says, what if you got the f*** out of here and stopped watching his game? I do that. I'm serious. I'm superstitious like that, man. And I think it's my fault. So I just walk out based on the evidence. Based on the evidence so far, that dump was never more necessary because you go to a movie. Do you ever what movie you saw, by the way? No, hell no, man. I'm too old to remember. It's fall 2013. You get back from the hunger games catching fire. I can only presume. And the see hocks come back and they win. And then you're kind of feeling yourself because a couple of years after that, you're back to watching your favorite team and they play the Cardinals and they lose again. And so now you have, I presume, a pivot to make here. What's your new strategy? I cut back on my watching. I really did. I'm telling you, even the Super Bowls, I'm kind of, I look and then I go in another room. You know, because I think it's all my fault. If they win, it ain't me. But if they lose, it's me. And I think all my homies always, they tease me. They'll call me if they lose, they always go, man, what the hell was wrong today? To this day, I'm the reason they lose, but not the reason they win. Well, you finally get the Super Bowl 48. It's a Legion of Boom. It's paid in Manning and the Broncos. And 43 to 8. Where were you on that Super Bowl Sunday? I was on tour. I was on tour. I was on tour. I'm telling you, man, if I watch those games, I'm telling you, I bet you, if I yelled right now, like I yelled when the Seahawks are playing, especially in the playoff, you'd hear me from where you're at. Especially if something goes wrong. God damn it. And I act like I'm the coach, of course. But this strategy, you being the absentee coach, works because the next year, Super Bowl again, 2015, I presume now that you feel like you've been exercised. No. No, feel like you've been exercised. No, I'm gonna tell you something. This game coming up. I'm gonna watch the intro. I'm gonna watch the halftime. I'm gonna watch the beginning of the third quarter. And I'm gonna watch the end of the fourth quarter, if they're winning. If they're not winning, I'm not watching the end of the fourth quarter. I'm gonna, because I know everybody that lives, I'm not even gonna say where they're at. Those bastards that live out there, where the bad weather's at. Oh, yeah. Damn. All of them, all my friends that live on the East Coast hate the Seahawks. I wake up sometime and just send a mass email. F*** off this morning. And then they give me the middle finger bitches. But the point being that if this game isn't going great, you might be back on the road. You might be driving somewhere, road raging. I really get nervous when I'm watching live. But I'm gonna, I got some guys coming by and then I'm gonna tell you what they're gonna do. All my friends, they make me leave the room. Leave, dude. Leave, dude. You f***ing it up. Go in the studio, make a song or something. Hello, it's Greg James from The First and The Curious. Our podcast is currently being sponsored by Sky Sports. Someone's doing well. The new F1 season kicks off on March the 6th in Australia. And this year we're heading into a proper new era. New cars, new rules and new teams. It genuinely feels like we're about to race into the unknown. 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Instead of inquiring about this year's annual bonus. Auto-correct has done her dirty and asked everyone in her company who's getting an annual raise of a different kind. Shuff some more Maltesers in because now we're debating whether that's worse or better. Then the time Sarah's auto-correct holder boss I'll be there short-lust. Oh great. Emma's one. Maltesers, look on the light side. We're in 2014, Mix. It's the Seattle Symphony. And can you describe what the f*** is happening at the Seattle Symphony? I don't know. I managed her something else. Let's just say. I think Ricardo could talk a person onto a cliff and actually say jump and they would do it. Which explains how you finally wound up on the show incidentally. Because he, yeah, there you go. Because he, after you hit the ground, you might be dead, but he'll make you a star. I guarantee you. But the Seattle Symphony for people who aren't familiar, I mean, we're talking about a stage with a Grammy winning orchestra and a crowd. Don't forget it. Don't forget the woman in black. The woman in black is an internet character that deserves to be spot lit. Did you wish I was having that? I was like 50 pounds since then. I was gonna say. You look like a different person. When people describe a post-racial America, I think they're describing this YouTube video. Probably, probably, man. I was like, like I said, oh, damn, I was big. Can you paint the picture of like what is happening? How this all came to be? So I come out and keep in mind, I'm terrified because this was an opera music. I mean, that's what I was in the middle of and I'm like, oh my God. And everybody's sitting there. Some people are holding sheet music. There are cellos in the background. Yeah, yeah, cellos, violins, whatever they are. When the song starts, I'm doing it and I'm terrified because I'm thinking I'm not gonna get any crowd participation at all. And all of a sudden, the girl in black got up and everybody, they just said, okay, and would, would, would, blew my mind. Look at the orchestra. Yes. Look at that. Man, the orchestra by the way. And it is in a silver factory. Look at that. The orchestra is exactly what you're imagining an orchestra would be. Everyone has like white hair, very proper, all dressed in black themselves, by the way. And yet the foremost conductor of this performance, of this musical climax is not the conductor. It is the woman in black who is front and center and has, has, has made there. Oh my God. Has the confidence mix. When I first saw this, I was like, oh, this is a plant. Sir makes a lot planted this woman. Everybody said that. Oh, I wonder if she's still married because she had a ring on. We're gonna, we're gonna try and locate the woman in black. The follow up investigation. But what you're saying is that once she got on stage, people organically, authentically swarmed the orchestra and got on stage too. It was not planned at all. People say, man, you had to plan that, plan that. But when she got up, I didn't say anything because I'm looking at, you know, the people in charge like, hey, is this cool? And they're like, keep going, keep going, okay? That's when I'll just started getting up. That's like, they want that. And you're hopping up and down. I mean, it must be, look, I don't want to be presumptuous here. But that feels like a thing that you may have dreamed of or acid dreamed of or hallucinated at one point. Like that's fucking wild. Literally five minutes before I came out, it was. It was. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. It's like, what the hell is this shit? And then all of a sudden, they started and wow, I'm like, damn. I like the idea that you're kind of the least informed person as to what is about to happen here. If I had knew how to say, you know, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Now, the homies might see this and I won't be allowed back in the hood no more, you know. But now, they everybody liked it. But this is where I just got to jump in to level with our audience here for a second because several minutes ago, right underneath the service episode without our honored guest having any idea what we've been up to. We hear a publisher I find out got the idea to furiously start searching for the woman in black on the internet right now, while we were interviewing Sir Mixelot. And so, not unlike that viral moment from the Seattle Symphony, which has been viewed more than 15 million times on YouTube, I can just promise you, this was not planned at all. And yet, shockingly, the lady in black, despite being herself out on the road somewhere, actually got back to us, like right away. And what she told us suddenly inspired me to call an audible. In fact, we're gonna pause right here because we have a special guest that we have just contacted. And she may be familiar to you. Can we please route the lady in black? I don't know. She ever told me her name or anything. Oh my god. This is hilarious. And she's in her car. Yeah. Can I formally introduce Sir Mixelot and Sean Bounds? Do I have that correct? Yes, but I'm Martinez now. Okay, well then, I gotta thank you for saying that before I started saying some bad. So, I don't mean bad like bad. I mean bad like good. Yeah, yeah, you know, I was just in Seattle. I live in Texas now and I was looking for you at this The Hulk's game. We were just watching Sean, the video of you rushing the stage and becoming an all-time internet legend. And here you are again. Could you give us your perspective on what that evening was like? Because people have accused you, of course, of being a plant for Sir Mixelot. I don't think that old school dancing that I was a plant. But yeah, so I had jammed to swast growing up. I mean, buttermilk biscuits. I mean, square dance wrap. Come on. I've listened to everything. And I actually worked on Broadway on Madison and Broadway. And it was just a blast. It was such a beautiful moment. And Sir Mixelot, I hope you think the same. I mean, I really, it was a beautiful moment. And you know, it wasn't staged. It was real life. And that is what is lacking, I think, today. I mean, this was the real deal. I have the arthritis in my hips to prove it now. Boy, did she, she made the house come down. Really, she was bigger than the song itself. No, no, no one could be bigger than that song. Come on. But it was so beautiful and so darn fun. And I'm so glad to finally to finally meet you, you know. Yeah. Well, you know, I had went to a celebration of life that day. That's why I was an all blacked. Whoa. And they have, yeah, yeah, they, they dug to me the lady in black with back. Okay. Wow. Wait, so just to briefly recap. So the lady in black with back went from, and my condolences more than a decade later. You went from a uneroll to that? Well, a celebration of life, yes, for a coworker that I worked with on Broadway had passed away. You was an older gentleman, but, you know, nonetheless such an awesome guy. That's why I was wearing black and everyone else was wearing all that color and everything. Oh my God. I wonder if he was kind of remote controlling you from heaven and said, go up there and shake that ass. Just do it for me. I always wanted to see it. So glad I didn't wear my spanks that day because, man, it just, I mean, it just went big. Didn't it? It was just so crazy. It was just out there. I was in Florida, and they were showing me that. Did you see this girl? How did I not see her? What are you talking about? People, did you see her? What's it been like to be the lady in black with back in the years since then? Because again, this is a wildly viral video. Oh, goodness. Well, when it first happened to be honest, it was really a beautiful thing. People were reaching out from really all over the world and talking about how important it is to love yourself, to live in the moment, to love your body. I mean, it turned into such a beautiful thing that, like, you know, you just don't know when, when you're just doing fun things, you're not thinking about that. But honestly, I mean, I just, I'm back to my normal day to day life. Nothing crazy. Except this, this is awesome. What a beautiful surprise. I was on my way back to work. Oh, my God. I didn't expect to find out this much today on public tour. I find out. But uniting the two of you is it's a dream that my teenage self could not have ever imagined. Well, it did. I mean, this is awesome. Like I said, I've been listening to you since last. And you look great. You look really great. You look really fabulous. Yes. And I'm happy to have really met you. And I really want to thank you for all your music and bringing so much joy to everybody. I mean, it's really uplifting and fun. And we need to have more fun. Probably one of the most popular videos that I had anything to do with on the internet. I just, I cannot believe that. I mean, well, you are a superstar. And I'm like, in awe, and so excited. I hope my street cred goes up again. Oh, yeah. The crypts in the blood. They stop, they stop fighting each other just because of you. I hope when you do come to Texas, you look me up. I'd love to meet you in person. Oh, that'll happen because I do have a tour coming up. Good. Good. I'll be ready. I love that this happened while the lady in black with back was in her car. This has been an episode largely about. It turns out cars. And so I'm going to let you go back on the road. I'm going to ask you, do you have a Super Bowl prediction, lady in black? Because. Are you kidding? Seahawks all the way all the way. Thank you both for participating in the most absurd Super Bowl preview episode that a technically sports show has ever done. Yeah, we knew it. Thanks guys. What a treat. Wow. Thank you. No, thank you. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. Public. This year we're heading into a proper new era, new cars, new rules and new teams. It genuinely feels like we're about to race into the unknown. And that makes this one of the most unpredictable seasons ever. You can watch every practice qualifying and race live on Sky Sports with unrivaled coverage across the whole race weekend. You can also stream Sky Sports with a flexible now membership if that is more your thing. 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