Summary
Nate Bargatze discusses his journey from growing up with a magician father in Tennessee to becoming one of comedy's biggest arena-filling stars. The conversation covers his comedy philosophy rooted in authenticity and self-deprecation, his writing process that treats stand-up like filmmaking, and his evolution from performing for tiny crowds in New York clubs to selling out 20,000-seat arenas.
Insights
- Clean comedy with authentic self-deprecation can achieve massive commercial success without relying on shock value or punching down at audiences
- Stand-up comedy economics require significant infrastructure investment (buses, speakers, production) that scales with venue size, making it a capital-intensive business
- Comedy writing benefits from structural thinking—treating material like a movie with narrative flow rather than isolated jokes prevents audience fatigue
- Family involvement in entertainment careers (Bargatze's father as magician, family touring with him) creates unique authenticity that resonates with audiences
- Arena comedy requires intentional intimacy strategies (speaker placement, stage positioning, pacing) to maintain connection despite massive crowd sizes
Trends
Rise of arena-scale stand-up comedy as viable business model competing with traditional concert touringAuthenticity and vulnerability as core comedic currency replacing shock-based humorFamily-integrated touring models becoming viable for top-tier comediansStreaming specials (Amazon Prime) as primary distribution channel for comedy contentClean comedy gaining mainstream acceptance and commercial viabilityStand-up comedy as narrative/cinematic art form rather than joke deliverySports entertainment (UFC, golf) integration into comedian lifestyle and contentChain restaurant culture as comedic subject matter reflecting American experience
Topics
Stand-up comedy writing and structureComedy performance in arena venuesSelf-deprecating humor vs. punching downFamily dynamics in entertainment careersClean comedy commercial viabilityTouring economics and infrastructureAuthenticity in comedySNL performance and live televisionComedy special productionCrowd work vs. prepared materialComedy as narrative storytellingMagician performance and illusionTennessee culture and regional identityMarriage and relationship humorUFC and sports fandom
Companies
Amazon Prime
Platform where Nate's comedy special 'Hello World' is available for streaming
Saturday Night Live (SNL)
Nate performed his acclaimed George Washington sketch, which hosts praised as funniest SNL sketch in 15 years
Brillstein Entertainment Partners
Nate's management company handling his career representation
UTA (United Talent Agency)
Talent agency representing Nate Bargatze
Applebee's
Restaurant chain where Nate met his wife; both worked there as servers/host
Target
Referenced in Nate's comedy material about where he learned life lessons
Lowe's
Home improvement chain referenced in Nate's special 'Everything I Learned'
Walmart
Referenced in Nate's comedy about chain stores vs. mom-and-pop shops
Chili's
Chain restaurant praised by hosts for chocolate lava cake dessert
Outback Steakhouse
Chain restaurant mentioned for Bloomin' Onion appetizer
Cracker Barrel
Chain restaurant with bus parking, frequented during touring
Footprint Center
Phoenix arena where Nate is shooting his new comedy special
People
Nate Bargatze
Guest discussing his comedy career, touring, and creative process
Sean Evans
Co-host of SmartLess podcast conducting interview with Nate
Jason Bateman
Co-host of SmartLess podcast
Will Arnett
Co-host of SmartLess podcast
Greg Garcia
Recommended Nate to hosts; collaborated with Nate on pilot script writing
Jordan Peele
Previous SmartLess guest whose film 'Nope' was discussed regarding acronym meaning
Dax Shepard
Referenced as frequent user of phrase 'son of a gun' in conversation
Ray Romano
Mentioned as comedian with new special on Amazon
Morgan Freeman
Referenced for Shawshank Redemption parole board scene philosophy discussion
Nate's Father
Influenced Nate's comedy; tours with him as opener on road
Nate's Wife
Met at Applebee's; Nate runs comedy material by her; featured in his comedy
Nate's Daughter
11-year-old who loves horses; shows creative and comedic talent
Jimmy Fallon
Surprise opener joining Nate's tour bus for Syracuse show
Boo Weekly
Story about fighting orangutan at county fair featured in Nate's comedy
Quotes
"My philosophy for life is kind of... full release comes from honesty. Don't try to be something you're not."
Nate Bargatze•Early in interview
"I had to learn to get people into my rhythm very quickly. Since I talk slower and I'm from the South, I had to figure out how to get people to hear my voice and readjust."
Nate Bargatze•Mid-interview
"I'm in love with stand up right now. It's like a movie. I'm the main character and I'm telling the story. Everything leads into the other thing."
Nate Bargatze•Mid-interview
"The farther you are from the laugh, the bigger the laugh has to be. And I don't want to put that much pressure on a laugh."
Nate Bargatze•Comedy writing discussion
"You're so authentic, but that feels like you. When you started, you must have started in clubs. You make it so intimate, even though you're playing huge arenas."
Sean Evans•Mid-interview
Full Transcript
Do you want anything? One second, I'm just going to... Do you want something? Okay. Okay. Great. Can I get one crispy chicken? Two crispy chicken for you. Because I don't know... You want two for yourself. Okay. No judgment. That's fine. And... And ice cream. Do you guys even serve... You know what? Do you mind if we just do this after? Welcome to prison prison prison prison prison prison prison prison We were just talking about Shawshank and I was going to say to Will, Jay Boutre, came on, that my philosophy in life is kind of... Oh, this is good. Hang on. No, this is good. This is good. You like to get a pain out of it. Everybody pull over and get out the pen. By the way, this is Shawshank Redemption, I think. Shawshank Redemption. It's for Tracy. So the end of the movie. So the whole movie, Morgan Freeman is talking about like, you know, he goes in front of the, what is it called, the panel or whatever, the people who... Parole board. Kind of the board. Parole board. Yeah. And he's the parole board and he's like, he tells them what they think they want to hear. He's like, no, I've been, you know, reformed. I'm good. I've learned my lesson and they always deny his parole. And then at the end of the movie, he finally just is like, you know what? Fuck it. This is who I am. You people are crazy. I didn't learn anything. And then that's when he gets released. That's it. That's my philosophy for life. And that's what full release comes from honesty. Well, two ways. Sorry. So everybody go ahead and put your car back in drive and toss that paper either out the window if you still have an ashtray in the car, use that. Because we really didn't get an end to it. But it's nice that Sean's philosophy of life is like, don't try to be something you're not. Yeah, exactly. Right. I agree with you. Authenticity is a thematic that I'm on a project that I'm working on right now. That's the theme of the thing. Oh, very good. It's a great evergreen. Authenticity. Hey, Jason. Yeah, hi. Why did the man fall down the well? Oh, boy. Because he didn't see that well. That's exactly right. Wait, who? Wait, Willie, you got when we had Jordan Peele on his film, Nope. Yeah. I always just thought it was just a fun way to say, yeah, no, I'm not comfortable with flying saucers. Yeah. It says the main character and this shit freaks me out. But it's actually an acronym for? It's an acronym. Well, he said it's an acronym. Yeah. And I just went and I thought about for two seconds, I went, not of planet Earth. Planet Earth. And remember the look on his face? He was cut. He was a little mad, I think. Well, what you were seeing was the same look that I had, which is total shock at your level of intelligence. Yeah. And that was stunning surprise. That's what hurt me the most was the stunning, the stunned look on everybody's face when I do something. Well, we're going to have a stunned look at your guest when he comes. Well, he's going to have a stunned look at Sean. Oh, Sean, did you have a lunch? He's going to have a stunned look at your, when he heard your joke for sure, because he tells jokes for a living. Oh, shit. Here we go. And he doesn't just tell jokes. I, man, he, this guy tells this son of a gun, this son of a gun. And that's kind of the language that he would use to son of a gun. Dax Shepard's coming back. He, Dax does love son of a gun. He does. This guy uses, I don't know, there's something about his, everything that he does, his delivery, his turn of phrase, the things he talks about, the way he does it. A lot of people call him the nicest guy in standup. I don't think of him as just the funniest dude I've seen in such a long time. And I remember the first time I was, I heard about him was through our old friend, Greg Garcia. Yeah. And Greg was like, Greg reached out to me. He's like, you have to have this guy on Boobla and I made some glib remark. He's like, you're going to regret it. I go, I think he's hilarious. Relax. And then JB, you and I had the pleasure of meeting him really, really, really, really repeat the glib remark right in front of me. We met him really briefly up at last year up at Pebble Beach. And he's as nice as he is funny. And it's all, I love this guy. He's so, so funny. I love Ray Romano. I love the Tennessee Canada. Ray Romano? I love the Tennessee kid. I love his new special Hello World on Amazon. He's about to go on tour in a new one. Guys, it's none other than the hilarious Nate Borgazzi. Oh, no. Nate Borgazzi. Even better. I was ready for Ray. I love Nate Borgazzi. I'll get Ray. Oh, how great. Nate, it's good to see you again. Good to see you, Sean. Hey, just a little fun note. Never seen Shawshank. So that's, Well, you're young. You're too young for it. You know, it's before your time. Wait, wait, how old? I'm 44. I should have. It's pretty young. You know what, Nate? I didn't see Shawshank till I was 45. Oh, I'll do it next year. Anyway, Nate Borgazzi. Nate, Nate, this is really nice. Great to see you again because we did meet. We did meet up at Pebble. Yep. Do you live in a nice house or are you in a nice hotel room? But where are you? In a hotel room. I'm in Syracuse. Okay. Working? I got a show in Syracuse. This is, can't make it here. Can't make it anywhere. That's what they say. That's what they say. Nate, I like that Sean, you said I'm in Syracuse. Sean goes working. Nah. Nah. He's just hanging out with the orange man. This is the vacation I can afford in Syracuse. He goes, it's nice. We took a bus out. But it's, you know. We spent on the hotel room. Yeah, everything went to this. Now what kind of work? My family of 30 is right off camera. They're just right there. I said, if y'all talk during this, I will kill you. When you are traveling around, you're doing these shows. What size is your group footprint? What's your posse size? We have probably like 10 guys. Because I bring four openers. Actually tonight, we got a surprise opener. He won't be here until later. Jimmy Fallon. Fallon is coming to the show. Oh, that's great. He's going to jump on the bus. Where do I know? Tell me what we know him from. That movie. Taxi. Pitch fever. Pitch fever. Pitch fever. Pitch fever. Queen Latifa. I remember taxi. Yeah. Jimmy right now, by the way, he's hearing this. He's sharpening his knife hearing us say this. Well, I have to say this. We developed the show together years ago. What? And you were very successful then. But to see you over the years, this kind of like, and then SNL. And then like, I, it's so exciting to finally be like, yes, this guy has been brilliant, has always been brilliant. And now more and more people can see it. And you sell, Nate, you sell, Nate, you sell out arenas like 20,000 at a clip, which is just unbelievable. And on top of this, and I'm going to say this, and I really, and I've said it a bunch since it aired when you're on SNL, your sketch, your, your, your George Washington sketch. That was me. Just in my opinion. The funniest SNL sketch I've seen in 15 years. I totally agree with that. I totally agree with that. I totally agree with that. Remarkable. You know, your TV just went on, which tells me that you're bored. The families bored. The 30 men are getting itchy. There's no one in me. It's just you and Jim Benheim, right? Yeah. Is that his name? Jim may turn it off, or does it matter? No, no, just give me something to watch. But you have, to echo what Sean's saying, you have just like kind of finally, thankfully, the rest of America is just like, understand what an awesome, awesome, hilarious dude you are. So how do you start? You're the Tennessee kid. You're from old Hickory, Tennessee. Am I right about that? Yes. Old Hickory. Yeah. Old Hickory. Is it next to new Hickory? No. News is a little bit far. Was it ever new Hickory? No. He's got, he's got this great joke in his new special on Amazon Prime where he says, I'm from old Hickory. It's where Andrew Jackson is from and people are like, he wasn't a good guy. And they go, well, we didn't know him that well, but we didn't know him. But we didn't know him at all. But Nate, talk to me about when you were a kid and stuff. Like, did you, were you always into comedy? Did you watch SNL? Like what were your inspirations? That's what I was thinking. That's what I was getting to. How did you start? I just got there. It's, I grew up, my dad's a magician. What? And does comedy. Mine too. Mine can disappear on the drop of a hat. Sean, you are talk so quick. Get out of here. Sorry, Nate. Thanks you guys. Keep going. No, that, I grew up around that. I mean, so that was like, you know, it's funny, but then also growing up around, you know, my dad being a magician. You learn how to like, yeah, it just kind of leads you to it. I guess. Wait, wait, wait. So Nate, so you grew up, your dad's a magician. He obviously loved you. Sorry, Sean. And I mean, to the extent that he wanted to stick around. I'm friends with Sean's dad. Yeah. Oh, so you know where he is. Yeah. Yeah. He's a pretty good dude. I don't know the whole backstory, but I know. I just know from what are hanging out. He's got no tread left on his tires, but he's a good guy. He's actually what pinned to his location. So what was that like growing up with your dad being a magician? That's pretty rad. An illusionist. Yeah, yeah, it was the best. It is, you know, I don't know if I even understood it. Like, I'm sure, I think of it like my daughter and I'm sure your kids, like it doesn't seem not normal. Like it just fell. Yeah. Like it's like, that's all I ever knew. And it wasn't told. You got older that you're like, yeah, dude, nobody's dad's a magician. Yeah. Yeah. Start saying you don't know when you're asked what your dad does. Right. Yeah. So he would make a living being. I mean, I have people do magic, like magicians would show me magic tricks. I've just seen them all too. And I just, I'm just not a good, I'm not a good person to perform for it because I'm just like, all right, you know, it's like, is this your card? You're like, it's always my, it's always my card. Yeah, it's always been my card. Every time I see magic. Every time I see magic, I fricking love it. And everybody listening loves it. Well, I mean, how can you not love when you see a magic trick? I mean, a good one. A good one. But I, but I never think about it. I never, and I always make fun of it when I hear about it. It's like you hear about mimes, but you know what? You can't take your eyes off a mime or a magician. It's, it gets a bad rap. You can't take your eyes off a mime. Yeah. That's the quote of the day. Wait. So Nate, so your dad, show him his going to ask this. So your dad made a living as, as a magician. He did. He was a teacher too. Like, so he had a day job and then he would do that. And then we were always in Nashville. And so he's just always done it. And I mean, he's, he's very successful. He's very known in the magic world. He comes with me and opens for me a lot on the road. No way. We'll do these shows and you know, it's every little boys dream travel to your dad when you're 44 years old. So you go, go a little CPAP machine hooked up in a tour bus. It's a good time. You got some ramps on the side of that stage. Yeah. I mean, we were, we had our bus parked out one time and I had my, it was my dad, my mom and my aunt. And I was like, people probably go by this tour bus and they're like, it's pretty rocking in there. And I mean, we got, it's lights off, quiet, just the roar of machines keeping everybody alive. And the smell of liniment. Wait. So did you ever perform in the magic shows with your dad? I did some. Yeah. I did some with magic. You ever get cut in half? No, no, we didn't ever do that. We didn't, he never did that go that far. He just slight hand. A lot of slight hand and he does comedy. Oh, that's my favorite. Yeah. So then when you, what, what age were you and you were like, actually kind of to what Jason, you kind of alluded to, but did you start just like being a wise ass on the, on the side of your dad's stage while he was doing magic? Like, is that how stand up started for you? I think it was just being funny. Dude, like I remember seeing stand up. It was just, it was just trying to, it was trying to make people laugh. I don't think I ever really make fun of anybody. Right. It was, but it was like, I would make fun of myself a lot, which is what I do now in my comedy show. It'd be like, you'd be doing stuff like that, making funny. He had, I mean, one time I've talked about this in a special, on one of them, but it was like, he brought the Easter Bunny home when I was like six. He was at the mall, he was at a mall doing a show and the Easter Bunny needed to ride home. And my dad goes, I'll give you a ride home if you swing by my house. And so I remember the Easter Bunny, we had like, they, my parents had this old red Mazda stick shift, you know, and the Easter Bunny's head was bent to the side because his head couldn't fit in the car. So he was just, he was sitting like this and then he got out and I met the Easter Bunny and then my dad drove the Easter Bunny home. So that, so that started your, the Easter Bunny stage, stage. And that was the, yeah, that was the trajectory. I go, all right, I go, if I can be that guy, then maybe I can make it as. Now what, what was your mom's attitude on, on her husband's career? My parents have been together since seventh grade and they, my mom's very funny and, but she, she worked at a bank. I mean, she's just been, I mean, it's just stuff. There's like growing up, it's buying, you know, she has to go up, my dad will be like, go to the store. I need you to buy 12 lemons and he has to buy for like his magic, are a bunch of newspapers from that day. It's like a bunch of random, and it's just normal conversation. You're just like, it's a Tuesday. You're just trying to grab some bread, milk and 30 oranges. And then you get on out of there and you can grab. And handkerchiefs and six colors. He's got a lot of shows this week. It's just stuff like that. Wait, wait, so, so Nate, so I want to kind of get again, this, this is where the worst interviewers on the planet. We were just voted worst ever interviewers. We nailed it. Of all time. Yeah. But I want to go back because we, again, because you play these huge arenas and it's amazing. And I don't, I don't know if I've ever seen a comic so comfortable. You make it so intimate, even though you're playing a huge, there's something about it that makes it so personal and you, and you, you're so organic. Yeah, you draw us in as opposed to ask for it. We're talking about authenticity. You're very authentic, but you, that feels like you, that when you started, you must have started in clubs, like in smaller venues, right? Like, like most comics, I imagine. Oh yeah. So I moved to Chicago first for a couple of years and then I moved to New York and I was in New York for the most for like eight and a half years. And so I did all the clubs and all the, like going up every single night. I performed for one guy once. Oh my God. No way. Like he wouldn't leave. We tried to get him to leave and he was like, no, it's all right. And we were like, well, we don't think it's all right. He really wasn't about him. You're like, what's that? I don't want to stand up in front of a guy. Uh, regularly up in front of four people, five, six, like, I mean, six people was like, got pretty good show going on. You know, you were, you were excited about no way. Yeah. So you just get used to just being in these kind of like, you know, it takes a long time before you're in front of like an actual pain crowd. That's good. But what does that do for you? What does that do for you? Like rhythm wise, et cetera, when you're just doing six people, like, well, I had to learn to get people into my rhythm very quickly. So since I'm talk slower and I'm from the South and all this, I had to figure out, cause I would follow like high energy acts and then I'd come up and I'm like, well, I got to come up with a joke or I got to say something. I just need you to hear my voice for a second so you can go like, all right, readjust and be like, now we're in this rhythm and then get into the first kind of, you know, come up with a good like open. Some of the good like opening little thing or whatever and just get rolling. You know what always blows my mind about standups though, like how you can just walk around the stage for two hours and always have something to talk about and like, how do you, is it like a monologue you memorize or like, how can you just go up and speak? God, he's going to love show business. Do you think? Yeah, Sean, wait, you get a load of her. He's going to love show business. He's going to love it. Two thirds of the planet is water. There's a couple of poles. No, you know what I mean? That always blows my mind. Obviously you had material that you work on, but do you ever like, There's your answer. Go up and you're like, oh my God, I don't know what subject to talk about next. Like the flow of it. Well, I don't go up. Yeah, I go up prepared. I mean, I can't do the other. I can't really do like crowd work and go up and it's very, very free. It's not freestyling, bro. No, I know. You've been working on it for months. I know. But Nate, do you ever switch the order based on the audience? Oh yeah. This new hour, I've switched it a ton, but it's worked because now I'm opening on a joke that I have closed on. So it's like, it's great to be opening on a joke that I've actually had to have the energy and the rhythm of a closer. And then you just move it up and now it's the front. And you're doing those decisions on the fly. Yeah, you just fill it out. It's like, I mean, it's kind of like a song. Like I'm in love with stand up right now. Like I love it so much. And it's the way I've looked at writing kind of is like, it's a movie. So I'm the main character of this movie. And I'm not, I'm telling the story. I'm not, there's a, there's a, you know, a reason for me saying all this stuff and everything leads into the other thing. So you want to make it where people don't realize you're into another joke. But in my head, I could be on like joke five. Right. You're trying to, I'm trying to make it where like, and then that's how you remember it. Cause the only way, you know, if you're talking about like riding a car and then you're like, my wife bought a car. Well, now that's the only thing I could go into. Right, right. And we will be right back. This is a paid ad by better help. If you've been feeling overwhelmed, stuck, anxious or unsure that is okay. Those feelings are more common than we think. Whatever you're going through, you don't have to go through it alone. Having someone with you to listen and understand can make all the difference. Whatever is keeping you up at night therapy with better help can provide you with tools to help you check in with yourself and gain support from experienced professionals. Better help is the world's largest online therapy platform. Just take a short questionnaire to identify your needs and preferences and better help will handle the initial therapist matching work for you. 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And I don't want to put that much pressure on a laugh. So if I can just kind of keep it. That's interesting going and let it build. It's like, you know, it doesn't you're just not putting the weight of the world on this. You're like, right? Because if they go if you go silent too long, I mean, there's a point where you're like, well, this joke better be. Yeah, yeah. Sean tried to stand up and we won't get to his opening joke, but he was he started so far from the laugh and then he never got even to the same area code as the laugh. You know what I mean? Like he never he never he never had actual direct sight on the last. They never got a clean look at it. He went into a lecture and there's no way you're like, no, he's supposed to go. Well, I never get out now. Even with a series of mirrors. He couldn't see the laugh. It was so scared. That's how I drive around town. I only take right hand turns. But Nate, biggest bombing story. Like, did you just like, oh my God, this is the worst? Like, yeah, yeah, there's a bunch. I mean, you'd blame it on one time. I thought it was the shirt I wore and so I threw that shirt away. I had a button down shirt and I tucked it in. I've never done that since. Yeah, I was like, it wasn't me. I was just like, couldn't have been material. Yeah, as fucking shirt is killing me. What is this guy's deal? I've done a cruise ship. Say no more. I want to I want to contest and your prize was to set your career back five years and do cruises. And so I go out and I'm doing it and you got to do like, you got to do a bunch of shows. So you do 30 clean, 30 dirty. I never had dirty. So it's like I couldn't even and then you would do one another show. So you needed honest because sometimes these people would come back and watch multiple shows. So you needed to have, you know, two hours of material or do crowd or be able to mess with the crowd or something. And I remember we go up and you would do one show at the beginning of it. You do like five minutes each and it's kind of just like it's in the big theater and you're kind of just letting the crowd know we're comedians. We got a show back here, blah, blah. So the other guy just was great and knew how to like he shined a fly shot on a crowd. Like just knew how to like really play with the crowd. Always. And he was like coming to my shows. Every show is different. And he like made a big announcement out there all different. And then I went up and I said, my I go come to one. It may be the other one. The other one will be the same. I had it like do not come to all my shows. Most will be the same. I don't have enough material to have them all be different. So you can go to his shows. They will be different. Mine will be and then I went and did a show and it was I started it and like they didn't laugh. And I was like, oh, these people have been to every show and I'm not a crowd work guy, you know, and I'm like, so what do you do, man? And I, you know, some guys like I'm in he's an ol rigger in the ocean. It's actually a pretty crazy job. And I was like, that's cool. And I just moved on. People are saying crazy stuff. Like I'm a bank robber. I'm like, that's neat, man. What about you, ma'am? I had nothing. No riffing. And then I had to ride in an elevator with these people. I'm in the elevator in the ocean. You think it sounds like I made it and I'm just sitting there and I had a hat on and I just hear some guy just trashing me and I'm my shoulders touching them. Oh my God. But they do separate them between clean and dirty on a cruise ship. That's exclusively for the people. You separate them between clean and dirty on a cruise ship. That's exclusive to a cruise ship. Yeah. It would, you would just have a show that's like the kids can come to this show. Your family can come to this show. And then you'd have like a night at, you know, 11 p.m. is like an adult only show. Yeah. You still can't be that dirty, but it's the idea of it is a little more, you know, Yeah, you could have just dropped in a couple of f bombs and just randomly. I got a curse as I talk about parking. I'm like, you guys have a parallel part just like this guy's filthy. Yeah. I didn't even have it. I didn't even have, I had no dirty jokes. Like there's no, I don't really, I don't talk about sex or like political or like, there's nothing like really like that's kind of like this. What about political sex? Will you ever touch political sex? Is that something that you'd be willing to do? Dad, I will. Yeah. If the right joke comes up. Sure. Sure. You know, it is funny. It is remarkable how, how clean your stand up is. And a lot of people, it's such a weird thing to have to say to point it out, but I guess it is worthy of pointing out. And it is to me such a testament to how profoundly funny you are. And honestly, and I hope it is a badge of honor for you. It should be because it really, you find ways to talk about stuff and you don't need to, to swear. I swear like a Cosby never, never cursed. Yeah. Famously. Well, let's, again, let's not try to, you know, look at, so let's not, but. No, let's go down the avenue of Cosby and clean, you know? Yeah. Yeah. This guy. So Nate, wait, did you still at home? What's it like at home? So like, is, is your, do you check out, do you run jokes by your wife? Does she okay them? Is she sick of hearing them? Like what is that dynamic at home? I'll tell her. Yeah. I like, she knows about every joke that comes up because that's something I had to learn to when you make fun of your wife at the beginning is you have to show love. Like you have to show because people, because I remember at the beginning of the reaction would be like, well, why are you married? And so then you're like, well, that's not, that's not what I want. You don't need to have that reaction. So you have to then make fun of yourself, but with her and you got to do it in a way that where they're like, they can tell that you do love your wife. Yeah. You love your family and you, you know, and so it's just kind of like just making fun of each other. But yeah, I'll run by stuff. But that comes across and you've got, you do that bit about the guy coming to replace the water heater and your other special and you're, and you go, finally, the guy realizes you don't know what you're talking about. He thinks maybe this is a modern relationship. And he says to me, the guy said, is your husband here? And then you go, yeah, I think she's here somewhere. It's so good. And it is like you said, you're self deprecating. You're the, you're the, the butt of the joke, which I think is always such a winning combo. You're not making fun of somebody. You're not having a laugh at somebody else's expense. You're not putting somebody else down to make yourself funny, which is great. Yeah. I just never liked it. Like I felt bad. I mean, I'll like make fun of my buddies and comics and stuff. In the audience, you just, I just always felt, you know, it's like this person is just trying to sit there. They don't need it. Yeah. You'll be like, big, what's your shirt? Your shirt's stupid. And then I got my shirt on tucked in. Right? Don't we all got stupid shirts? Do you, do you still live in Tennessee? Yeah, I moved back. I was, I was gone like 13 years and then we've been back for about nine. Yeah. Here it's beautiful down there. Yeah. It's so good, right? Yeah. I'm born and raised there. It's great. We have as much of a normal life as it can be. We're living in a cul-de-sac on the house at the top. So we have the leaders and we set the tone for it. I have a joke. I'll just, I can say it's my new act, Russ. And we do all in our call to say we do all the right thing. Like if someone pulls down there, we're like, what are you doing down our street? Any car we don't know, we just run out of it. You very good out of our course. I mean, just furious if they come down it. Brothers and sisters growing up. I have a younger brother and a younger sister. So you're the oldest of the three. I am. Do they, are they finding you funny all the time? Or like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My brother's like three years younger than me. My sister's about 10. I've talked about her and it's special. And she, she works for me now too. So that's fun. I mean, you get yelled at by her. I mean, you got your whole family. You got your sisters working for you. And then you're on tour with your mom and dad and your aunt. And I mean, that's cool. It's pretty rad. I mean, I don't think you've said this, but you, you, you, you, you, sorry, do you have kids? Yeah, I've a 11 year old. Why are you so nervous to ask that? By the way, he's married. He said he's not available. What are the kids ages? I did say before, don't ask about if I have kids. Oh, all right. I guess. Okay. Yeah. Now I have one 11 year old daughter. 11 year old daughter. And what does it seem like she's going to want to do with her life? Does she want to? She loves horses right now. I don't know why. That sounds expensive. That's expensive. It is. I don't, I don't know where, no one, we don't come from horse stuff. You know, you're not, you're not horse people. No, there's never horse people, but, uh, she loves horses. So right now she's kind of doing that stuff, but she's very creative, very funny. And she, you know, uh, will get me and my wife laughing a lot, you know, and like, I think I got to teach her where to wear the joke. You got to be like, all right, well, you got to be serious. Yeah. Isn't that funny? There's, there's the little, there's the age when they learn sarcasm, they learn humor and, but they don't yet know when to stop the joke. They don't know when to do the joke. Um, but you don't want to shame them cause you don't want to kill their spirit or their sense of humor. So you just got to kind of grin and bear with so many things in their life. It's so incredible watching kids learn things that we forgot that we learned, you know, like it's amazing. You know, nothing until you learn it. She can make fun of her friends. Recent and like, I think, but then they all got like, it was like, they did not like it. And I was like, and it was funny. I forget what it was, but it was like, it was something funny, but you're like, all right, you got to understand. You're like, you got to, some people will be able to handle it. Like, you know, she just is all about the joke cause it's obviously just our, you know, her grandfather's a magician. I mean, it's medium. Like, so it's, it's a lot of joking. I think, yeah, I think making fun of your friends is, is not a good path to go down. It's not, um, Unless it's, success, unless it's Sean, I mean, it's such a big button to hit. No, I thought we were talking about friends. Yeah, Sean is all right. Yeah. You don't have to go warm inside. Where's that? What's after Syracuse? Where do you go next? Albany. So we started in, of course. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. And what, and just flux connected. He was like, what are you doing, dude? Yeah, this is the route. I know we started last night. We were in Philly at the far, like it was where the, the sixes play. No way. This big thing. And then it, then it goes Syracuse and then it'll go Albany. And then that's, these are the two to file on wanted to come to Syracuse and Albany. Yeah, of course. That's a big, those are big venues. I think he's from up here. Yeah. He is, he's from upstate New York. What, what, what arena or place are you playing tonight in Syracuse? The, you know, the arena. The carrier dome probably, right? Is that what it is? No, no. No? Yeah. No, I've been to a game there. That's like a huge, I've been to a basketball game there. You could fill it. Basketball courts set up. It's your, people buy tickets that are like, I don't think they can see the court. Right. They're sitting like behind the court. Would there be a crowd that's just too big for, for a comedy show? It's just like, it's, it needs to be a little bit more intimate. Like 20,000 people is like right at the max, maybe or, or no. Yeah. I mean, it's all about how many, you know, the arena is, we have these big screens. We have, I've put more speakers up so everybody can hear it everywhere. And you really do try to make it intimate. I mean, you can tell everybody gets real quiet. I mean, that's the cool, it's one of the coolest things is when you're telling a joke and you're, this many people are quiet. Yeah. You know, in this kind of, and they're just, I mean, you could, I could yell with no microphone and the top person could hear me is, it gets that quiet. That's so cool. So yeah, I mean, I'd imagine if you did a stadium, you know, I could see it getting a little, Louie, you know, and we're in the middle too of an arena. So it makes it a lot, I'm a lot closer to everybody. Do a hundred thousand, do a Hondo. Come on. Do the big, do the big house. Have you ever had a moment where you kind of scare yourself a little bit by thinking about all the eyes that are looking at you and that they're not talking and that it is silent and that you might not be doing well and you can't leave for another 45 minutes. Are you scared, are you scared of the eyes? Yeah. I mean, if you ever had a panic attack on a stage and know that you can't, you can't leave for another hour. Yeah. I mean, I've done it so long now that you're, it's just like, It's happened to me. I mean, it's, Yeah, yeah. I mean, I've done it now. It's like, yeah. I mean, you think about it. I had an SNL like a little bit when I did the monologue. I was more nervous with the monologue because it's like stand up and you're like, I'm supposed to be good and at this and, and then you got to kind of deliver the jokes into the camera, but there's the crowd. And so like, it was very weird to deliver jokes to kind of a spot where no one's at. Right. And you're right on the heels of sitting, of standing back behind that flat behind the band, right? That little narrow little plank and the whole crowd is silent and they're counting down to that live moment to America. Like it becomes really tangible. Like you're not just live in front of, you know, you know, a crowd, it's beaming across, you know, the planet. Oh yeah. Like it's real tangible there. Yeah. You're like, I could say anything right now and they're going to hear it right now because it's live, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Remember when I used to remember like 20 jokes when I was a kid. I used to love them. And now I can only remember like one or two, but from back then, they're not that great. No, go and tell one, Jay. Do you have any jokes? You want to hear it again until a joke inside out? Go ahead. I do get a little tripped up. Do you have a joke from when you were a kid that you'll never forget? You may not use it in your act, but it's just like just a classic that was one of your favorites. Yeah. I didn't use it in my act. You say you do? I didn't hang on to your like, I kept it. I still read a joke book when I was five and I'm closing on it. I remember the joke. I said there was a joke book or something and there was a guy goes, waiter, there's a spider, there's a fly in my soup. And then the waiter goes, well, don't worry, the spider on your bread will get it. And there's a picture of a spider bed. And so my dad always brings it. I remember that joke and then my dad brought it up because I would like, I was explaining why the joke was funny to him and like kind of going through it. Like here's why this is funny. So that, that, that one was the first one, but I let it go. You guys have jokes from your, from when you were a kid that you'll never forget one joke that's appropriate to tell. Is there one like a go to that you remember? I had a joke book when I was really little. It was, you have a joke book now, but here, keep going. It was, it's not funny. It was funny when I was like six years old. It's like, where did dead people go in your house? And it was the living room. I have one which is like, people always say that ballet is really hard to do. And so I always say, just don't do it. Yeah. Oh, I see Nate left. That was Sean's opening joke when he did stand up. And what is the, this would probably be interesting for folks, including me. What are the, how do you do the economics of being a stand up? I'm assuming you have to bear all the costs of the trucks and the infrastructure and all that stuff. And then you get to keep whatever you don't spend on what it costs to put the show up, right? And you're making your money based on ticket sales and merchandise, perhaps full stop. Yeah. Yeah. We don't, I mean, merch is not, merch is not the biggest thing in stand up. Why? Yeah. I don't know. We've done it at shows and it's just, it's not like a concert or people don't, like I was saying, like stand up still kind of, it's kind of a newer thing. Like Cosby is like one of the first, he's still alive. And like, you know, like he knew Lenny Bruce. And then you got to, if I could give you one piece of advice. If we could just lose the Cosby references. If we could get it down to single digit. Yeah. Or you know what? I'm going to send you a couple articles. Harvey Weinstein and I, one set up an LLC. But, but, but so, so you've got this, you've got this huge apparatus, right? Like, you know, you know, you could do without it. You get like a deal. So you have promoters and then the, yeah, you are, I think the, it's like the promoters, the one that's putting the money for like the, the renting of the venue. And then I'm paying, then it comes out of mind at the show budget of the speakers and all that stuff. And so you can, you can have it go as low or as big as you want it to go. Who's your manager? Who are your peeps? Brillstein. They're the Brillstein and UTA. Yeah. We'll be right back. All right. Back to the show. By the way, backing way up to the beginning of this interview. What is Bargatze? What is the nationality of Bargatze? Italian. Oh, it is? First of all, don't spit it out like that. No, like Bargatze. What the fuck is Hayes? The fuck is, the fuck is, what the fuck is that? Sorry, Nate. Jesus. I never, I mean, I, I mean, I, I do, but I, I just never heard it. This has really been a be in my bonnet for a minute. How do you even spell that? I know, I can't even begin to spell it. I, I kind of, I knew that about it. I forgot that I knew that. Italian. Yeah. I think we say it wrong as a family too. I think it's supposed to be Bargatze and we say Bargatze. Like it's just, we've Southerned it up. Oh, I say Bargatze. Yeah. I think a lot of people would. Don't people say Bargatze? When I went to New York, they would always be like Bargatze because it's like Italian. And I was like, you know, I was like, I don't like tomatoes. Do you have family in Italy? I don't, you don't know. Yeah. I think we all agreed to kind of go, we had a family union once and we had family come over from Italy and we got Kentucky fried chicken. And I think it was like from that moment was just kind of like, all right, y'all have a good life. We did it. We're going to do our thing. We're going to do y'all's thing. And we've just kind of gone our separate ways. Nate, what do you like to do, do you, in your free time and you've got a lot of time like on a bus or you're touring or on the plane or whatever. What do you, what do you watch? What are the things that are your sports guide? Do you like, do you watch other stand-ups? Do you watch? Candy Crush, what's, how you occupying your minutes? Yeah, I'm a big sports guy. So I watched a lot of golf, like any, any sports golf UFC, Wandslite UFC. Oh, you do? Yeah, I'm a big fan of UFC. I wanted to, I wanted to peg that. I wanted to peg you for a big, it's just the most I, the honesty of it with like, they know, like just in the fighters, they can say whatever they want. And so there's no, you know, like when Tom Brady is, he go retire, not retire. It's like, it's all kind of a game and a show. And UFC kind of really is like, we just got to do that just says, I want to fight this guy. Right. And then it just gets to it. And you're, I don't know, I kind of like, I love it. But there's, but there's no, there's no romance to that too though, right? Like the kind of, The build up to it. And then they get in the, you know, then they don't like each other. And then you're, you know, and then you go in there and watch them fight. It's not just watching a street fight. You're watching two professionals that have to like fill each other out. Yeah. So you watch, you have, so you watch golf, you like to play golf, you play golf and you're on the road. Some, it gets hard, but it's cause the shows and stuff, but yeah, I'll play some on the road. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's kind of it. I mean, I don't know. It's like you're just running around, got a lot of hanging out. Like the road is the most fun cause it's just like a bunch of dudes and you know, this morning we went and and we're in Syracuse in this place as a hot and cold plunge thing. Sure. And, uh, so I've never done it. And then so, but they let us come in. So like we woke up and did that. Wait, who's, who's boo weekly? I saw, I saw something. Oh yeah. What is that? So I, this is another, I told it on SNL, I'd tell it in my act too. But it boo weekly, cause I have a joke about fighting a Rangentang at a county fair. Okay. And where I read the story was there's a golfer named boo weekly. And when he read, uh, he said when he was 15, he got in, he goes to this county fair. He's from like George, like seven, seven Georgia. Uh, it's like the eighties, you know, and, uh, there, you could pay $5 to fight an a Rangentang. A Rangentang would be in a boxing ring with boxing gloves. And so dudes would pay $5 to fight him. And, uh, yeah. And then guys would get in there and this Rangentang would just knock people out. Uh, because when I say this, I tell the whole story in my act, but I say, cause we didn't have the internet to look up how strong is an a Rangentang. You have, it was all word of mouth back then. So, uh, you know, you had to meet a guy that just fought an a Rangentang and he's like, he's stronger than you think. You know, you know, we'll be, but the arms are so skinny. You know, I know. That's what I thought as well. And the reach. Yeah. It's the reach. It's the jab. It's the feet. Look at his feet. His feet are bigger than you. Yeah. That strength comes from somewhere. And they'll rip your face off too. If they want. Well, that's what Boo Wiggins said. He goes, that's not written everywhere back in 1982 when you're fighting a Rangentang. The guy that does this, doesn't go all, you sign a waiver. Sure. Yeah. You don't realize till afterwards, like that's why he has gloves on. If it, if it's thinking, if it gets the gloves off, there's a chance it will rip your head off. So, but you know, what do you do? Ride the scrambler again? Yeah. Oh, I wonder if that's still in existence anywhere in the country. I think they, so they, Peta, I think Peta got a hold of a lot of this. Sure. They knocked those things down. And that one, they were like, you can't do that. We're like, all right, we thought they liked it. I'm glad you just had to tell us and we got rid of it. Fair enough. Nate, what are you going to do today before the show? Tell them you're busy. It was this and then, yeah, it was just this. I don't have to, like, I got to read where I'm, I'm messing up some of the order a little bit. So I'll do that a little and then we're just hanging out and be at the venue. If there's, we do try to shoot basketball, like some of these arenas, if they have a basketball goal somewhere, we're trying to like mess around, shoot basketball and just kind of, you know, do whatever until that's nice. And then you're going, and then you're going on tour. You got a new special. You're shooting a new special in Phoenix. Yeah. You love Phoenix. You love, you've taught, you did another, you did your last special in Phoenix. I did my last special there and this one's going to be in the footprint center where the suns play. So it's, yeah, it's, it's, yeah, I mean, it just kind of works out like touring wise. Like you just hit these towns like every two years or so. And so it just kind of like. And your family goes with you or do they stay home? They do some. Yeah. Yeah. We went to Europe, like they came to Europe. They come to the, you know, they're not here in Syracuse or Albany, but they, if they're going, I'm doing the Boston garden, they're going to come to Boston. Tell them to join you out in Phoenix and for some of the best pizza in the world as voted by the, the, the, the voters at Crispy Oncos. At Crispy Oncos. Go get some. Nate, can you do, I saw you do this one thing a long time ago. You don't have to do it, but if you're like, I got to go. But one of the funniest things that I saw you do. Sorry, sorry dude. You want me to stand up and do my act? I mean, can you just show us your tits real quick and then go to show. Did you mind doing a topless? Sorry, sorry. Show us your tits. No, the one of the funniest things was I, it was a story about your meeting your wife's ex boyfriend. Yeah. On the boat. Yeah. Yeah. I went, yeah. I got to remember it, but we went to, it happened. We're on the lake, Old Hickory Lake. Is that true? Yeah. And we're in, we're like in the water and then it's, my wife's ex boyfriend was on another boat. Right. And I didn't see him and she pointed out, like there's no reason to point it out. But she pointed it out. So then, yeah, like all I can think of now, like I'm, I'm thinking about him. Like, and then I look at her and she's looking at him and I feel like she's looking at him to see what her life would be like if she didn't marry me. Yeah. And I was looking at him to see what my life would be like if I didn't marry her. So we're both putting a lot of pressure on this guy. Yeah. And then my buddy told me he's, he's like, you should go fight him. And I was like, what, like he's on a boat. Like I got, I got to swim over to that fight. Yeah. Have you ever tried climbing a boat from water? It's not, it's not graceful. It's not easy. You don't come in with power. I would need his help to start the fight. Right. I think that was it. Yeah. That was so funny. But I just, we can all relate to meeting X, X's, you know, our current X's. I don't know if you guys did, but I, yeah, I don't, I, yeah, I don't really have X's. But I got one. What are you talking about, Nate? I know, I didn't go, I know, that's what made it frustrating. I don't, I had no one to go show my wife. Here's mine. Yeah. As you got to meet. What do you mean? Cause you, what is she, your high school sweetheart or something? No, we started dating like 20, 21. We met at Applebee's. We both played tables at Apple. I was a host at the time, but. Oh, that's great. I love that. You don't need to scream. Yeah. I mean, Sounds like it's all good in the neighborhood or what do we do? Yeah, we're all in the neighborhood. We're all in the neighborhood. Yeah. We're big fans. We took our daughter. What was your favorite thing on the Applebee's menu? Here we go. They had the chicken, chicken broccoli, Alfredo. I'd get no broccoli, you know, get that area. And then I'd say put it on the side just so the guy thinks I'm going to eat it. Then he would just take a full plate of broccoli back after I got full on the other stuff. It's so true. Like we're worried what they think. Yeah. Look at this. Do you think that's impressive? Sean, Applebee's menu backwards. Go. Cobbler, apple cobbler. Are those kind of those kinds of restaurants? Chinese chicken salad. Oh, yeah. Every place makes a Chinese chicken salad now. That's like, that's kind of like the new, you know, molten lava cake. Every place has a Chinese chicken. What makes it a Chinese chicken salad? Just because of the ginger dressing? They're the only ones that don't eat it. And those, those, those crispy noodles, the crispy noodles and the, Yeah, you get the crispy. Chin Chin. No, listen, Sean, I don't have to tell you. Chin Chin. Chin Chin. Chin Chin does the best one. Yeah. One of the best ones. One of the best ones. Yeah, one of the best ones. No, Sean's handling his Chin Chin Chin. Wait, so of all those kinds of restaurants, I forget what you call them. Are they big box restaurants? No, chain restaurants. Chain restaurants. Have y'all not been to one in a while? Like, it's been a minute, but I did like to sit in your new special, Nate says everything. Everything I learned, I don't know a lot that came from a big, like, you know, like a building, like a higher education building, everything I learned. I overheard it at Target Earl Lowe's. The Lowe's. The line is Lowe's. Everything I overheard. Yeah, Target Earl Lowe's. Yeah, we're big chain. I mean, I grew up, like, we're, you know, I had an old joke about like, I was a big, I don't like mom and pop shops because they can close just there. Like, we don't feel good today and they close like Walmart. Walmart, you know, they were mom and pop shop at some point and then they became, they got it together and became unreal. Yeah. So, yeah, I like those too. I like mom and pop shop. Here's what I like. I like chilies and I'm not, I'm not afraid to say. They have the great chocolate, if you want one, go to chilies. Go to chilies and they also have the great, they used to have the Southwest egg rolls or whatever. They used to have those things that were cremine. Dax used to always go to God, I love a chili. What about outback? Danny good with the blooming? Yeah, yeah, we go to outback a good bit. Scotty worked at TGIF and he would, I think that's a good thing. Oh, I used to love that. That's good. That's fun. That's an intimidating menu. Dr. Pepper's doing some pretty amazing things right now. So, if you are into Dr. Pepper, die Dr. Pepper. Is that right? They got some real good stuff going on. And some cherry, right? They got some, like some soda, like cream soda, strawberry stuff. I mean, it's something, dude. They're just showing off over there. Did we ever get any confirmation on the doctor portion of the pepper? Like did they, did we ever see documentation to prove that he... He's just diet. He's just diet. What kind of doctor was he? Yeah, I mean... Dr. Pepper, he was a popular... I do like diet Dr. Pepper, I do like diet Dr. Pepper too. And I'm going to say this, I like their TV ads. Yeah. I think they're funny, the college football ads. I think they're real clever. Nate, before I let you go, how do you know Greg Garcia? How did that happen? This son of a gun, speaking of son of a guns. So I, we, I've tried to make a bunch of shows that have never gone. We've had one show that we shot a pilot and, and so Greg came in. I did not know him and he came in. Danielle Sinchez, Whitzel, she was a show running it and she's friends with Greg. And so Greg came in to help us do it. And I knew Greg Garcia's work, but I didn't know him. I went, he first came in. So before he first came in, he's like, he's going to help us. And I was like, I don't know who this dude is. Yeah. I got to listen to this guy. And then we wrote our whole, we wrote the whole script on his, off just his ideas. Cause they were so good. And obviously he's unreal. And so we just become really close and become friends. I was just with them this week, actually, at dinner with him. Cause I had to go to LA for a second. So he's, yeah, we became friends like that. And he comes out on the road too. I tell you, y'all should, y'all come out on the road. If you want to get away and have a little fun trip, come on out. Dude, that would actually be really, really fun. If you mean it, if you mean it, I swear, Fallon's coming tonight. We have a fun time. It's you just play cards or you play, you know, like we went to a casino last night and Sean, I mean, first of all, this is your dream. They go to casino and they're going to chain restaurants. I mean, you know, every, every single, every cracker barrel's got, got to sking merchant from, from Sean's car. Cracker barrels one we didn't touch on. I've not been there, but I hear that's the one. Anywhere that can handle bus parking, it's all chain stuff. Well, Greg Garcia is one of the all time great guys, super, super funny guy. One of the funniest pranks. He always, I'm not really like a big prank sky, but he is so funny. I had a long joke and a prank and I just, he's such a great guy. So yeah, that makes sense that you guys would be pals. Well, listen, I'm going to return the offer and say next time you're out here in California, let's go play golf, man. And grab some lunch. Such a huge fan of yours, dude. Honestly, you're just the funniest, funniest, funniest dude. So funny. Good to see you. So exciting to see you just more and more and more people appreciate you. Really happy for your success. Truly, truly, truly. Yeah, man. Yeah, thanks for, thanks for having me on. Nate, thank you for doing this. What a thrill. Thank you for saying it. What a thrill. All right. The great Nate Bergazzi. Thank you, buddy. Thank you, Nate. Thanks, Nate. Thank you guys. See you, buddy. Have fun. Bye. The great Nate. The great Nate. Nate, God is he funny. Yep. Old school clean, good, hilarious, nonstop fun. He's just like a real kind fella, you know? Yeah, I can't see him getting upset. I'm sure you could figure out a way to piss him off. How would you, what would be your strategy if you really wanted to get Nate pissed off? I'd ask him questions over, I'd ask him the same thing over and over again, like I didn't understand. No, I think he'd be very patient with that. I don't think that would be his button pusher. No, but like if you just went on and on about something like you just really honestly truly didn't understand, I think it pisses anybody off. I wonder. Like what are you not getting, right? Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? No, we have a pretty high threshold to pit. Like we have a pretty decent amount of patience for you in that regard. What is the thing that gets you guys to anger quicker than anything else? Stupidity. People who don't think like I do. I have a short fuse for stuff. I don't suffer. I have a short fuse for like, yeah, people who are incompetent or like can't like, like, like don't have common sense about like easy things. And then in the meantime, I'm the dumbest person on the planet and I probably do the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I hate when people like punch down, you know, like mean to people because they know they can be. Yeah. It's so lazy. Yeah. Yeah. It is. Punch down either, either, especially if it, you know, we do do a lot of joking around and we love to sort of rub each other and stuff. But anytime I see somebody who likes to, and we talked about with Nate, who likes to get a laugh at somebody else's expense. Yeah. Or you know what else? It's pissing me off, confident ignorance. That can also be super funny though. Yeah. Sometimes. Well, the character it can be. Right. You have to do it on purpose. But yeah, a person who is much smarter or much more confident than they have a right to be is just grating. Because you have to spend an effort to convince them that you're buying it. Right. But if you have no dog in that fight and you're just observing that person, it can be hilarious. Oh, yeah. That is true. That is true. By the way, I love playing those characters. Yeah. The character that's just an alpha everywhere. And then the tough guy walks in and then they're beta. Yeah. Right, right, right, right, right, right. Exactly. But Nate, we should go see his show when he's out. He's so funny. I think we should meet him in Phoenix and go get some of that Bianco pizza. We should. And then play some golf over there. You're not playing golf anymore. Not till October. That's not time to be disciplined. You know? I know. I mean, we can go to Nate's. There it comes. There it comes. We can go to his show and like participate or we can go and just be a bunch of. Bye, Santa. Bye, Santa. Bye. Bye. So dumb when we do. Smart. What? Smart. What? Smart. What? Smart. What? Smart. What? Smart. What? Smart. What? Smart. What? What? What do you do if you do that?