#1119: February 21, 2026

knowledge fight damn and jordan i'm sweating knowledgefight.com it's down to pray i have great respect for knowledge fight knowledge fight i'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George knowledge fight. I need money. Andy in Kansas. Andy in Kansas. Stop it. Andy in Kansas. Andy in Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello Alex. I'm a first time calling. I'm a huge fan. I love your room. Knowledge fight. Knowledgefight.com I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot today, buddy? My bright spot is it's February, and in the spirit of tradition and graciousness, I would love you to go first. Okay, I will go first. I would say that my bright spot is that earlier today my wife and I went to visit her mom's and we got to play with a puppy. Whoa. My friend. You have three at home. We do but this one's even smaller. Oh wow. It's so small. How tiny is it? Oh man it's so small and she was running around jumping on everything. I barked at her and it blew her fucking mind. Do you think she didn't know barks yet? She didn't. Not least of which she had never seen a man before because it's an all-lady rotation of people that she's seen. So my bearded face blew her mind. Then when I barked at her, she was like, ah, what just happened? It was amazing. Crazy. It was crazy. I love that you get to probably see wide-eyed excitement out of this puppy. That's a beautiful, you bottle that and be a millionaire. They have no regard for life or limb, just absolute missile in everything. How old are we talking of a dog here? Six months. Okay. Or maybe five months, something like that. Okay, so it's not like a week. It's not that small. I was picturing teeny tiny. Oh, man, we get pictures of those things and those little rats. They're so helpless and cute. So cute. Just want to pet them and bark at them. Yep. So what's your bright spot? Well, I thought for today's bright spot, I could do a little roundup of some novelty things. Okay. Novelty bullshit that I've tried. All right. So I tried a, there's a cherry, what is it? Cherry float Coke. Cherry float Coke. Cherry float Coke Zero. All right. All right. Trash. Yeah, that sounds impossible to make good. Yeah, it was no good. Yeah. Lemon meringue M&M's Alright Lemon meringue pie That's on the edge Yeah they were fine Okay You know It's too soft of a flavor For an M&M though Yeah You want something With a little bit more hit Than a lemon Yeah And then there was also A peanut butter cinnamon roll M&M Alright Which I thought was weird Because I don't associate Peanut butter and cinnamon rolls It's hard to imagine Those two fitting together But I'm intrigued Yeah, they were fine as a thing, but I looked at it and it seemed forced. Yeah. The concept for the flavor. The peanut butter M&M and the peanut M&M are perfect constructions and need no changes or adjustments. You don't want a little bit of cinnamon in there? I mean, you can put a little bit of cinnamon there, but you know what it is? It's a peanut butter M&M with a little bit of cinnamon. It's not like a peanut butter cinnamon M&M. You'll never have a peanut butter cinnamon. Yeah, it's not helping things much. There's also a cherry chocolate cheesecake M&M. Okay. But the store was out, so I couldn't get those. But it's a trio of new flavors. All right, all right. Yeah, so two of them were fine. Third, TBD. Cherry float Coke stinks. This has been the novelty bullshit report. You know, sometimes it's hard to go back and think, MacGyver only had one flavor of Coke. Well, two flavors, if they still had new Coke around. Well, diet, is that a flavor? I suppose diet counts, yeah. Cherry Coke came around at some point, but probably not by then. I mean, back then I was still putting regular cherry into my Coke. You're putting a little syrup in there. I would put a little cherry syrup in there. I would make my own cherry Coke. You were an innovator. I blew this world apart with my brilliance. You should be a millionaire. You invented Cherry Coke. I did. I did. Yeah, thinking back, I don't remember there being as many soda flavors. Yeah. For sure. Back then, it was pretty simple. Everyone was so excited about the clear Pepsi. Yeah. Yeah. But it was still supposed to taste like Pepsi. Pepsi was just Pepsi or Diet Pepsi. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But then it was clear. And then it was clear. Yeah. Anyway, today we got an episode to go over. All right. All right. We're going to be back in the present day today. And I was going, I was looking around and seeing, hey, what's up? Alex did a special Saturday episode on February 21st. And I thought, great. I love a Saturday episode. Yeah, absolutely. Let's see how he's doing. Yeah. He's great. I believe it. So we'll get down to a bunch of cannibalism nonsense. but first let's take a moment to say hello to some new wonks. That's a great idea. So first, proud of Jess for completing her first semester of law school. All the legal advice she's already been offering we prove she's a natural especially considering we live in different states. From Ian, thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, praise the holy god emperor of mankind. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And David, when you thought Sam and I ruined your relationship Relationship with your girlfriend in a dream. That was true. We inceptioned you, sucka. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan. So thank you so much, too. I get why you stopped doing it, but I really miss hearing Jordan go bop, bop, bop, bop with the daddy shark clip. Can we get one for old time's sake? Maybe. It depends on whether or not we press the right button. I don't remember which is which. Nope. So here we go. I'm a policy wonk. I have risen above my enemies. I might quit tomorrow, actually. I'm just going to take a little breaky now. A little breaky for me. And then we're going to come back. And I'm going to start the show over. But I'm the devil. I've got to be taken off the air. I've been all this. Fuck you. Fuck you. I've got plenty of words for you. But at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World Order. And fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit. Maybe today should be my last broadcast. I mean, maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again. Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. I never want to come back here again. I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. I'll be better tomorrow. Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. Yeah, I fit it in there. So, yeah, no, you can't win them all. Sometimes you get the wrong one. That's roulette for you, yeah. So we start off today. There's big news that Alex needs to cover, and that is that Prince Andrew has been arrested, and there's a lot of Epstein stuff going around, a lot of chaos. Howard Lutnick is all over the Epstein files, and then also is maybe in some hot water after the Supreme Court ruled that the tariffs weren't good, and maybe unconstitutional. So Alex needs to get ahead of all this stuff And he does it the only way he knows how By talking about cannibalism and adrenochrome That works It is Saturday, the 21st day of February, 2026 I am your host, coming to you from deep in the heart of Texas In the Alex Jones Network Backup Studios The entire globalist system is in free fall The arrest last week, or this week, of Prince Andrew shows the globalists they're not above the law. And the House of Cards is coming down. We now have Palace Guards coming out and exposing the illegal activity. The fact that the King of England's done this shows they're cutting and running. He is more involved than even his brother in hardcore Satanism, cannibalism, adrenochrome, blood drinking. I've been exposing this for 32 years. There have been thousands of articles in the U.K. about it. Jimmy Savelle, it's unbelievable. So we're back to Pizzagate. is real kind of stuff. How about that? That's exciting. We're doing this season all over again. I mean, I would say that for maybe, let's put it this way, for the common person, Pizzagate is more believable now than it was back in Pizzagate times. Unfortunately. Yeah. I'm not saying it is believable. I'm just saying that relatively speaking to the current reality, that is less unreal than it used to be. Yep. It shows deterioration over time. It's not our fault. So I also think it's fun. Alex is bringing up Jimmy Savelle. Sure. And I just re-watched The Bone Temple. How's that? We did the same thing. As soon as it was available, I had to watch it again. And it was great. Fantastic movie. My review holds up. Spectacular. But I want to hear what Alex thinks about the Jimmies. Yeah, absolutely. I really want to. Absolutely. He's got to think like this is glorifying Savelle or something like that. It's some sort of real psyop to get in your heads. Yeah. And in many ways, that's the most ambiguous part of the film. Is the like, are you fucking with me about Jimmy or what? What are we doing here? Well, I mean, from the standpoint of the character or from Danny Boyle? Exactly. From Danny Boyle's point of view. I guess more Alex Garland. Right. Wow, that's right. Because of the Sir, because it's Sir Lord Jimmy Crystal. Yeah. And we never address that he's wearing a famous Jimmy costume. Yeah, yeah. But the world ended before Jimmy Savelle got outed as a horrible monster. Absolute chaos. So Jimmy can't be fucking with you. Alex Garland could be. He could be, yes. There's a statement in there, but not from Jimmy. Right, right, right. Jimmy just thinks Jimmy Savelle is a good dude. Right. It's like if he was wearing a Woody Allen outfit in the 60s, where you're like, I mean. If the world would know if there was a zombie outbreak in the 60s and there were the woodies. Oh, God. Anyway, I want to watch that. I want to review. Yeah, absolutely. So Alex is, you know, there's the stuff coming out about Howard Lutnick. Sure. And Alex, Alex remembers something. Oh, shit. He was involved in doing 9-11. I've totally forgot. And then you've got Howard Ludnig through his company and his sons betting against the tariffs that they would be rejected by the Supreme Court and buying up all of the insurance claims that could have been filed to potentially make billions and billions of dollars. Absolutely well. Then I was reminded from an old interviews and news, Max Kaiser from back on 9-11, that it was his company did the record put options against the airlines days before as well. He magically wasn't at work at the same company. So this is bad, folks. Absolutely out of control. Oh, man. I mean, you probably should have been more upset about the fact that he's Trump's secretary of commerce. he did not he he knew about 9-11 ahead of time is the argument Alex is making here I mean here's my problem with that is that I feel like that means that we could have handled it whenever it was just maybe the worst terrorist attack in all of history you know that might be a problem that we could have dealt with but instead we're gonna wait until he's uh all over the Epstein files sure yeah I also don't think that Alex has a good handle on what it is that uh Howard Lutnick's accused of in terms of the tariff stuff. Yeah. But who cares? Yeah. We're not here for accuracy. He's not going to, it's never going to help. No, but he did 9-11 and Alex has just mysteriously remembered this thing that he was supposed to, it's supposed to be the most important thing in his career. I just feel like you can't have done 9-11 and it just be a line item in your obituary. You know, like, oh, he was a good dude. He was a good father. He did 9-11. He was also pretty good at stock tips, all that stuff. 9-11 feels real top billing. Yeah, I think the problem is that Alex has accused pretty much everyone of doing 9-11. That is a good point. And so it is a footnote. Right. Alex has accused them of doing 9-11. Yeah, that is a good point. Yeah, one of many. So the Epstein emails that have come out, there's a fair amount of stuff about hunting humans. Great. There's the most dangerous game. Sure. All right. There's so many places to go with the three million plus Epstein files that the DOJ made it as hard as they could to search. They only let you search with each search 10 items. That means it would take one person 100 years to go through it all, literally. But because of human crowdsourcing, folks are digging through it. And I'll go to bed at midnight and wake up at 4 a.m. And there's thousands of things to look at the next more insane than the last. But here's something I want to just focus in on right now because we have a lot of past on this. If you look at the live show feed, what a headline. Epstein files are full of the establishment globalists, so-called elites, discussing not just eating humans and drinking blood and sex slaves being delivered and satanic rituals. Sure. But hunting of humans. New Epstein files talk about deranged elites hunting and killing humans, including groups of blacks, referred to as moon crickets. Man, I love how I'm learning new racist terms all the time from these files. I mean, what the hell is that? I'm told, you know what a moon cricket is? Look online. A moon cricket. So here's what I want to say. Yeah. I think Alex is sincere that he likes learning new slurs. I agree. I agree. Yeah. And I mean, I do also, I share a little bit of perverse curiosity there as well, but not for the same reason. Yeah. Yeah. So the email that Alex is talking about, it'll come up a bit more over the course of this episode. I don't know if it proves that anyone was hunting anybody. But I do think they're racist. I think that there's some racism that's definitely expressed. Strong belief there. but you know I can never really get all that excited for these we've figured out the codes like this means they're all they're all hunting human let me okay let me combine these two things with you alright first off I've said this before I've said it many times there has to be a clone out there right we've got enough unethical people somebody's cloned somebody out there let's imagine there's a lot of clones now if we're using those clones for human hunting is that okay no is that ethical human hunting immediately no um immediately no yeah you're not willing to entertain the thought that you can't have a soul nope okay fair enough also i wanted to move off this topic because i got excited about the idea of a clone temple bone temple well i mean you one would definitely lead to the other one would help yep yeah it would at least it would at least build a higher tower hunting of the clones would lead to bones this is poetry that is yep so um alex discusses how uh there's a rich history in the world of uh rich people hunting people yep i'm gonna move quick here so we can get to it all yeah there's a bunch of this stuff and you've got all these witnesses telling the FBI decades ago and years ago about being hunted at Zorro Ranch, hunted at Epstein Island. And then you've got Kathy O'Brien talking about it. Then you've got UN reports. And when the UN has been caught hunting, setting up human hunting parties. I'm sorry. My first film, America destroyed by design made in 96. I made it recently, early 97. That's 29 years ago. we talk about the u.n has shown news articles back then expecting that corporate news was better they were they were still controlled but they got some truth out about the u.n having these hunting parties for humans in africa well look at this bbc italy investigates claims of tourists paying to shoot civilians in bosnia 1990s it's not claims it's all well documented so at this point i'm imagining that alex is regretting making such a big deal out of one battle after another and civil war those movies seemed so in line with his storyline that he forgot about the hunt the one about the elites paying to hunt people that was supposed to be super anti-trump yeah but alex's audience lost interest in that movie pretty quickly if he'd stuck with that it would have been a gamble but it'd be paying off big right now i thought the fact that uh the rich people paying to kill civilians in bosnia coming up was super interesting given the fact that we've been back in 2006 covering milosevic's death and alex's response to it one of the reasons that this is bizarre is the article alex is reporting on from the bbc is about very rich people paying serb forces to let them come to their fortified positions and shoot civilians these were the serb forces that were aligned with milosevic who alex thought didn't do anything wrong i believe this could have happened but i'm not sure the bigger point though is that Alex is certain that this did happen and he doesn't even realize that the atrocities trying to pin on the globalists was being carried out by the side he was pretending was opposing the globalists back then because there's no continuity and nothing means anything yeah man that is a coincidence that is him suddenly bringing that up is a coincidence and I don't appreciate it no it makes me feel very uncomfortable it's the return of my witch I don't I don't like that at all. No, thank you. No, thank you. So, you know, the elites, they do this kind of stuff. I think they did it in the purge, too. No. Well... I think they did it in one of the purges. At least one of the purges that were human hunts. Yeah, no, for sure. And some of them were like unofficial human hunts. People just get together and hunt. Here's my theory on it. I think it's overblown as a fun activity. I don't think it would be that much fun to hunt a human. No, probably not. But they do stuff like this in order to test initiates. Sure. Right? They want to see if you're willing to do it. Would you go hunt a human? Yeah, yeah. And then Alex makes a dumb comparison. Let's start plowing into this, okay? Let's get into this first big subject now. with the poison shots, with the 5G, with the transgenderism, with everything they do it about we animals we slaves we garbage they control us And it about going through the establishment going through the different systems of academia military law enforcement culture banking and finding people that will do horrible evil stuff And I've used this example many times because it's on record. Why do they have horrible mental experiments on animals that are pointless? Fauci does that for decades and decades. The latest was hundreds and hundreds of beagles, larynxes removed, chained down with a bag over their head with flesh-eating worms. It's just to see if the medical staff will do it. It's a test. It's like gangs have. Go kill a liquor store owner. Go rape a girl. MS-13, do a satanic ritual. It's to see if you'll do horrible things and have dirt on you. Nurses also do those things? Write a passage. Okay. To get you to fully commit to evil so they've got your soul and they've got your ass. What is Emperor Palpatine? in Revenge of the Sith, Satan Darth Vader. He's just become Darth Vader. His eyes haven't turned yellow yet. That's the archetype. It's a metaphor. He says, go to the Jedi Temple and kill all the youngies. Is it a metaphor? You'll be strong enough in the dark side to save me. They're telling you how this all works. They're telling you how this thing operates. Okay, so no, but also, Emperor Palpatine didn't want Anakin to kill the Jedi as a test to see if he would do bad stuff. No. He wants the Jedi dead. The Jedi being dead is like a huge thing for the Sith. Yeah. They're all about it. Yeah. Yeah. It's not like just random crime to see if your soul is corruptible. No. It was critical. Yeah. And actually also very dangerous. It's not like, oh, go kill a helpless person. These people also have lightsabers. Yeah, less dangerous when it's the children. Sure. I think that's what made that scene particularly horrifying. I'm with you. But I don't know. I feel like 30 children with lightsabers should probably win that fight. Yeah. Yeah. I, you know what? Yes. Lightsabers are a crazy force equalizer. You know, like it's. Right. Even if, okay, I guess maybe if he's, if he could just like throw them all at the same time, then it's like, well, fine. You know, you've got too much force powers. But if we're just like, why even open up your lightsaber if you're going to throw them all away and they've got like 30 little lightsabers. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. But whatever the case, it was not a test. So this metaphor doesn't work. I think he just wanted to do the voice. Yep, that does sound right. So it's unfortunately time to deal with the elephant in the room. What's that? Trump. And the fact that, man, he won't stop making this about himself. Yeah, that's probably not smart. And won't stop telling people that they should shut up about it. That's not smart either. Here's Trump, again, always making it about him. Because, yeah, they're bringing out the Epstein to try to get Trump. We've never seen him involved in any of the crime. But by extension, the DOJ has covered up, slow-rolled, obfuscated, told us there's no new documents, and there are all these new documents. But here's Trump again saying, well, I'm not in it. I'm not bad, so let's just move on. No. Ludnig lived next door. Ludnig's in all these businesses. Ludnig, now we learn something. I want a whole bunch. Ludnig lied. Now we know Ludnig wrote your executive order. And Kavanaugh said, it's constitutional what you did, but he wrote the executive order wrong on the tariffs. Now we learn they bought up all of the insurance policies on the $175 billion on the tariffs that have been overturned, 80% of them. And his family, their counterfeit Gerald, same ones that bet on the airlines, plunging a week before 9-11. He was out of the World Trade Center that day. His employees weren't. So this all sounds worse than anything else that I've heard him accuse politicians of being involved in. He's painting a picture of Trump as like, this fucking dude sucks, right? Yeah, there's no other way to describe it. Yes. And the closeness, again, with somebody who knowingly did 9-11 seems wild to me, considering the amount of anti-9-11 problems we have. Well, and how many cool people Trump has around him advising him, and how much Trump knows about the New World Order and all that stuff. This seems like a real mistake he shouldn't be possible to make. And how many of those people were definitely not his own appointees who he chose specifically, thus giving himself some sort of responsibility as well for their actions. They're just random people who walked in off the street. Yeah. So I think that Alex really is in a negative place with Trump. Now, don't get me wrong. He still loves him. Well, I mean, he's 92% maybe the best thing that's ever happened to this entire earth. Right. But this all sounds really bad. Like this guy won't like every single fucking time it comes up. He's defensive. Yeah. Every single time he tells people to move on. No, come on, man. Wow. It's almost like if somebody brings up Sandy Hook, he says the exact same shit every fucking time and ask people to stop talking about it. Almost like a very strong sense of projected guilt. Yeah. Oh, well. Huh. So Alex realizes that this is pretty obvious to everybody. Yeah. And he also is like, I'm not going to stop supporting Trump, obviously. So he tries to over intellectualize his position. I like it. So here's Trump. Again, look, I'm explaining this. People that hate Trump don't get it. People that love Trump don't get it. And I think you're smart. So I'm explaining this real slowly. It's a scale. Yes, Trump is way, way better with getting us out of the U.N. carbon tax. that'll save billions of lives and finding half the missing kids that the Democrats shipped in for sex slavery and slave labor and all the other great things take an hour and a half to go through. Didn't take you very long to get through those. A big arm of the globalists hate his ass, but he's brought in a bunch of bad people. They're not prosecuting any of the bad guys to speak of. Andrew's been arrested over there, but nothing over here. The DOJ tells us Epstein acted alone. Go to sleep. they've put Ghislaine Maxwell in the nicest federal prison in the country here in Texas with their own companion animal these are a list of evidentiary no we're not moving on and we're not the Democrats that will do whatever the party says we are the populace using the Republicans to try to get the Republic back and Trump wrote it on that way so I will expose Trump for this but I'll also spend most of my time on the Democrats what they're up to they hope to just only have to make it about Trump no we'll expose Trump and we'll expose you as well but the white pillars say oh you're undermining trump no this these actions are in the whole country the black pillars are either democrats or they just say we're all doom screw trump no i support kennedy i support tulsi geber i support good republican candidates they're light day and night compared to democrats sure and i will hang this whole thing around the democrats and leftist parties worldwide because they're the ones at the center of it and i will and say, but Trump is joining in on it. See that? Yeah. See, I see. He's just trying to overcomplicate and make it sound more defensible to have a lesser of two evils position. Yeah, absolutely. Even then, you're like, I'm going to keep up with the Democrats. You've won. You've argued your case perfectly, and it's an anti-Trump case. Yep. Even including all the stuff that the Democrats are evil with, I think they're right around the same. Right? And that's you saying it. Yeah. You're saying they're exactly the same. Yeah. And that Trump is like willingly covering it up. Yeah. That last part where you said, and he's working with the globalists too, should tell you all you need to know. It seems like it should be disqualifying, but it's not if it's just like, hey, would you rather have AOC? Would you rather, would you rather you have Kamala? You know, I wonder if it is actually a good policy position for the Democrats to have no presence whatsoever, right? Because then it's like, I don't know, maybe I do want them. I don't know what they're doing at all. What you have told me sounds maybe true, but also it sounds like a cartoon supervillain? Sure. I mean, like, if they're doing nothing and everything is super duper bad. Right. I choose nothing. I will choose ineffectual losers 100% of the time compared to this, right? Yeah, I guess. So Alex is in this position where he's like, fuck, this is all real guilt stuff. Yeah. This is bad. It looks bad. I can't go along with Trump doing this. Tough. But also, like, what do you do? Like, if your dad kills someone, do you snitch? And I'm watching all the good Trump's doing and just going, but I have a moral responsibility that my dad's the greatest guy ever. We never saw anything criminal or bad or whatever. But let's just say, hypothetically, that I go visit my dad next week and he's burying a dead body in the backyard. And I'm going to find out, was that a good person or a bad person? Now, if he had some reason to do it and I think it was moral, maybe I'll cover up for my dad, but it's not going to happen anyways. The point is, I would not go along with it. Okay, it sounds like you might go along with it. It feels like you've just said you probably go along with it based upon the way that you've talked about stuff like this before. If your dad convinces you it was a bad person and that it's a justified kill, you might go along with this. Maybe not. What does this mean? You know, the problem for a lot of people is not deciding in advance whether or not they would do it. Even in this situation, being indecisive seems unhelpful. And this is a hypothetical. Yeah, it's an attempt at a metaphor. And I think he failed. Yeah, he failed pretty hard. I think he's trying to say that he would snitch on his dad. Right. Because it's like, well, yeah, you just can't go along with these kinds of things. But he hedged his bets in the middle of it. Yeah, he did. Yeah. And I think that that wishy-washy, waffly feeling is really what this episode, like, it just makes you feel. Yeah. Like there's this, ah, fuck, Trump is doing all this terrible stuff, but I can't really do anything. Yeah. And he starts talking about- I'd help my dad cover up a dead body. Totally. Interesting. Yeah. I don't know if I would. But what about Steve Bannon? Oh, well, that one's easier to... Alex is a little bit on the fence about Steve. Now, let's be clear. Trump knows a lot more than he's letting on. If you look back... That's too much! Five years ago, he said, sloppy Steve Bannon has got an Epstein problem. I saw that statement again today. And I like Steve Bannon. He's very smart. I haven't spoken about it yet because it's going to be a deep dive, and I'm going to do it in a few days and really tell you what's going on there. But why is Trump saying he's got an Epstein problem? And now the email has been released of them buying him a plane ticket to get to the island. And Steve needs to respond to that. But I can look at everything in there, and I know what was going on. And I'm going to not defend Steve and not attack Steve. I'm just going to state the facts. Steve Bannon has moved the needle against the globalists big time. And in these emails, he's overthrowing the Labor Party, getting the Brexit people in, and he's working with Epstein. You're like, what is that? He's, you know, because Epstein was the real head of the Trilateral Commission. Now, I don't put on the Ring of Mordor. I don't go to D.C. I don't go to New York. I can do all that. I've had these groups try to meet with me, all that stuff over the years. I've met with some of them off record, not everything at Epstein, but, you know. people above him um and said no i'm not for sale but the point is is that bannon was never for sale he was a hollywood producer and a you know stock guy and he got into the system because he was really a politico he's really smart but again he put the ring of mordor on and i would never you do that sure so i i think that it just feels like uh ambivalent yeah there's a like okay obviously steve is way more involved in some shit than i really want yeah at the same time he's really important and he's a big figure in my media space yeah so alex is trying to set up this position where it could go either way yeah where he could burn steve bannon or he could come up with a reason why he's totally fine and that that middle ground shit is just like it is no good no especially not now not from the tip of the spear no and and i think we're we should be in full uh uh what the old joke right uh i i'm i'm derek the gardener i've been a gardener for 20 years they don't call me derek the gardener you fuck one goat and you're derek the goat fucker for life that kind of thing And it's like, yeah, I don't care what you've done. You went to Epstein Island. And as Alex even points out himself, you lied about it. Yeah. Like. For a reason. People lie for a reason. People don't just lie about it because it would be a delightful time. They lied about it because you went to Epstein Island and you lie about that shit. Yeah. I mean, it's, he's got to do something. Like this, this, um, this kind of, this kind of positioning that he's trying to do is fucking dumb. And, and it's embarrassing for someone who pretends to be like his own man, like Alex. It just, it feels, it feels trapped. Yeah. And the British are, and again, it's, it's so stupid how Trump is doing it because the British are doing it right. Right. People want a head at least. People want heads to roll. So you give them a head. listen you think prince andrew is the only person up there in the in the royal family who's had a good time no absolutely not but fuck that guy head's gotta roll get out of here right you gotta give him one and then you can hide the rest of them maybe maybe um so what trump is doing instead yeah is just being like i think i'm gonna cover this stuff up you see that's the problem it is Give him a hat! And even for Alex, it's a problem. Now, he said it in the Bannon interview. Only two hours of 60 hours we now learn it was released. Because the FBI already had that. Bannon didn't release it. He was the stand-in for David Rockefeller, the head of the Throttle Commission. Let that sink in for you. So, Waters doing a great job in that report. Five minutes, all dead on. But the rest of the story is, why is Trump saying it'll hurt America if we keep focusing on this? Let's move on. Why are you connecting yourself to something that I've known about before anybody covering on air? Why are you doing it? Fuck. Because I will not be part of the cover up by not exposing what you're doing, Trump. Well, I'm not implicated, so it's fine. Let's move on. Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit. Fuck. Seems mad. I mean, he's in a tough position. Yep. Right? Because when you ask a question like, why? And you already know the answer, right? Then you're asking, why is it so hard to come up with a plausible lie about this? Yeah. And if it's so hard to come up with a plausible lie, you're fighting from the back of the end zone, man. They've already called a safety. You're not getting out of there. Yeah. He's not asking, like, why is Trump acting this way? It's more, God, why is it so hard for me to defend this? Exactly. Because I'm not not going to. Give me something real good, right? Give me something good that I can carry over this because, man, I got no options. Yeah. This feels like something. It's weird that you'd think, oh, this is a good thing to broadcast. Yeah. You know, because it does seem like somebody who's just like in crisis about something that everyone understands, like, where he's situated in this. He's not going anywhere and he's going to whine. Yeah. Like, don't have a crisis about this on air. Talk to a therapist about it or something. Something. And do your job. Right? Anyway, that's just the feeling that I get, is that he feels trapped as shit. Well, yeah. Holy mackerel. And those that bitch at me saying, well, why have you supported Trump so far? They pulled out of the Paris Accord. According to the actuaries, they'll save two million people. They found half the kids the Democrats shipped in half a million. I don't find any real stuff he's doing. That's the tone of voice of somebody who's confident. Trump has got to be so good for me. I've had the globalists offer to drop the lawsuits if I don't support him. People say, oh, you've been paying off to support Trump. No, I've gotten nothing shit from Trump, except grief. So this sounds like a guy who just can't justify the position he knows he has to sell to the audience. It's a foregone conclusion that he has to support Trump, and that position is becoming harder and harder to defend as Trump continues to act like a piece of shit and do things that Alex knows he's supposed to hate. it's really hard to hear a clip like that and not suspect that alex's support for trump isn't authentic he just yelled a string of obscenities about how he's not going to go along with trump's epstein cover-up and then to justify why he supports trump alex pulls out these two examples the first is getting out of the paris accords which he claims will save two billion lives sure that number is made up by his climate lunatic friends like lord monckton and has no bearing on reality. Trump left the agreement in his first term, then Biden rejoined it, and Trump left it again. In the meantime, most of the rest of the world has stayed in the agreement, and we will rejoin it as soon as Trump isn't in office. The second example he has is finding all these missing kids, which is really just a fake story. During the run-up to the election, Alex and the folks in his media space pretended that hundreds of thousands of kids who came across the border were missing, and because that story was fake to begin with, who cares if you make up the conclusion to it these kids weren't missing so alex can say that they're just all secretly getting found and chalk it up as a big trump success yeah the only stuff alex can really point to when he needs to balance trump's very obvious epstein cover-up shit are fake or old stories that don't mean anything i don't know if he thinks that this sounds convincing but i find it hard to believe that he could i think he has to realize this is thin shit yeah i mean how can you not you've been trapped on the smallest of planks. You're on the smallest of planks. Everybody, all the pirates are looking at you like, buddy, fucking jump. We can't do this all goddamn day. You're gonna go into that water, so just jump. Yeah. And the longer you refuse to, the more it just becomes like, it's painfully obvious that something's up here. Yeah. So it's not all just Epstein stuff that Trump is mad, or Alex is mad at Trump about. Yeah. There's also, you remember the frogs, how they're turning gay and all that stuff? Chemicals in the water? Sure. Trump loves it. The good news is the Great Awakening's here. The good news is populists are winning everywhere. The good news is Trump just rode in our wave. We'll take the good, the good people, Kennedy, Homan, Gabbards will support all that. But he's out there giving liability protection to Goliath State now because they've been exposed, murdering everybody and Roundup. so it just it's just trump at 79 is in la la land and that's fine no it's not democrats let's focus on him because this is this is our dog of the fight but remember they're 10 times more guilt on record so let's focus on them yeah let's not focus on the guy who's in la la land great so it's not even that trump has given liability protection to glyphosate producers he signed an executive order boosting production of it and protecting it as a national security priority Cool So what happened here is that Bayer is the only company in the United States that produces glyphosate and they in some big lawsuits accusing the product of causing cancer They recently proposed an approximately $7 billion settlement for the case, but we're also clear that if they had to pay that off, they probably couldn't afford to continue production in the United States, and it would likely all go to China. Trump's in a position where the Robert Kennedy Jr. types in his base absolutely demand that he get rid of glyphosate And that demand has been a big part of Alex's career for decades Yeah But simultaneously, he has a big company with ties to all sorts of production That will probably take their business elsewhere if Trump goes through with that Which would look really bad for the economy Yeah He's in a no-win situation because he loves big business But also has an audience full of idiots who believe passionately in conspiracy shit Trump's in a bind there. Yeah. No matter what he does, one side is going to be pissed. And it would be helpful for folks like Alex to take notice that when these kinds of no-win situations come up, Trump seems to always side with the big business interests. Weird how that works. I don't know if it's a coincidence. You know, the way I see it, right, if we're here, all right, you can go full China, you know, say you're the president for life, and then just nationalize bear, just like a Arrest all those executives, put them in jail for a while, take Bayer, then let them out, and then say Bayer's yours again. And surprise, you're not going anywhere. Isn't that crazy how that works? Yeah, I don't know if you could do that because I think Bayer is a foreign company. You know, the thing about doing stuff, when you're a dictator. You really never know what you can get away with. You really never know until you do it. It's true. I mean, hey, it's an option. You know, it is interesting, the idea of being beholden to large business interests while at the same time being theoretically the most powerful man in the world. The idea of being like, hey, bud, if you don't like glyphosate, we'll take our business to China. What are you going to do about that? Nothing. Right. It's also really funny to have all of this big business need to have all these numbers that show that the economy is good for your own sense of self. Yeah. And then also have an audience that are the most self-deluded fucking idiots who think they're counterculture. Yeah. It's crazy. And it's even wilder to know that you can make for what you want. You can do. You want those numbers to be good? There is good governance available to make those numbers happen. But you can't do that because you have to make those numbers happen by doing the insane shit that will never make those numbers happen. Yeah. Yep. It's fun. It's a bind. It's fun for us to live with. Yep. So there's a lot of people who are implicated by the Epstein emails and stuff. And there's one person who you need to know is not. And that is Elon Musk. so here is uh pretty sure he's real david sacks called out reed hoffman there's like a fly on shit and all this for blaming trump and elon with elon there is nothing there and elon's one that came out in june and said trump is in the file that's why he's covering up and boy what are they suppressing is a big question i don't want to play games here and it's obvious that alex is just a hack liar but i don't know if we've talked about elon's uh emails with Epstein on the show, so I just wanted to share this. In November 2012, Epstein was inviting Elon to the island and offering a helicopter for transportation, and Elon replied, quote, what day slash night will the wildest party on your island? To be clear, that was in 2012, well, after he'd gone to jail for the first time, and Elon Musk was specifically trying to plan out a visit to his island based on when the wildest party would be. Yeah. Then, on Christmas Day, Elon emailed Epstein, quote, do you have any parties planned? I've been working to the edge of sanity this year, and so once my kids head home for Christmas, I really want to hit the party scene in St. Bart's or elsewhere and let loose. The invitation is much appreciated, but a peaceful island experience is the opposite of what I'm looking for. My point is that Elon really desperately wanted to get some wild partying in with the convicted sex criminal. It's very funny that Elon acted this way, and even more funny than Alex is pretending that none of that is real. Yeah. Ha ha. You know, here's the problem with those emails, right? Horrible if followed through on. Even more disgusting if not. Think about the man's mindset whenever he's sending that email to fucking Jeffrey Epstein. He's imagining what he's going to do. Yeah, no, he's saying I need it to be fucking crazy. Exactly. Look, I know that you're Jeffrey Epstein. Right. But I'm not flying out there if it's not fucked up. If it's not a great party. The idea that he is putting out there is I want to do real crimes. Yes. I want to do actual things that cannot be done off an island because of laws. Yes. I want to be in international waters so I can do shit that people don't even dream is possible. Yeah, I want to do Andy Daly character shit. Absolutely. Something that one of those. Don DeMello. Yeah. Does he go out in international waters that much? I don't know. There's that other guy who goes out in the international waters. Right. But, yeah, I think it's such a sad look. Like, it's bagging. It's bagging. It is, yeah. It is. And I understand if it's, like, a cool person. They're like, hey, man, I'd love to come to one of your parties where all the brightest thinkers get together and talk literature. A gonquin round table or whatever. But when you're emailing Jeffrey Epstein about wild parties in 2012, we know what you want, man. For all the fucking Pizzagate interpretation bullshit, this is as explicit as you can possibly get that this man might actually hunt humans. If the party is that kind of party, then he'll hunt a person. Well, I mean, if you don't. You're weird. No. And also he'll blackmail you. And you're going to be the one hunted. Yeah, that is true. You know? Yeah. Yeah, you got to join the hunt part if it's an option. So, boy, we're in dire straits with employees. Because we get money for nothing? Yeah, they do, for sure. No chicks for free, but money for nothing. Money for nothing. Definitely. Definitely. so we have Chase gone Owen's gone Harrison's desperate to not be noticed non-existent I mean even if he's there he's not there and so we have Thomas who we met not too long ago on an episode right right right and I am I just regret to tell you that he's back and the second half of Alex's show is him talking to Thomas about his research oh boy into these emails thank you for joining us this live Saturday transmission. Our great researchers, including Thomas Siska, have now dug out even more shocking documents of the front lines of the information war. It's Alex Jones. Of hunting humans, including groups of black people. So we're going to hit that in the latest updates on that. And then the insider trading caught red-handed with Howard Ludnig, which they're trying to spin. So Thomas, you really prepare for this. I'm trying to give you the floor. We got some clips. You're in command. Let's roll this out. So these emails in the Epstein docs are showing that they're talking about hunting humans. And this one right here is specifically talking about hunting blacks. It's very peculiar because there's no sender on it. There's not even a redaction. They've taken the whole sender name off, and it's very mysterious, if you will. But it says the snipe hunt is over, moon crickets in field bag. And moon crickets is an old racial slur for blacks, for slaves that would work overnight. And then he says, guess what? And then he drops a hard R right here. That's Epstein here. And people say, oh, well, what's the big deal? We have even the BBC admitting these big globalist groups and organizations in Bosnian war zones doing these hunting things. This comes up over and over again, but give us the latest. So he brings that up again, which is top of mind for him in a strange way that, again, I'm uncomfortable with. But yeah, I think I looked at this email, and I would say it seems pretty racist, but I don't think it necessarily is proof of hunting humans. Yeah. I'm fascinated by humans in a lot of ways, but this is maybe one of the biggest for me because it's very pervasive throughout, I would say the world, right? One of those racial slurs means the other racial slur. And one of those racial slurs means the other racial slur. Yet somehow one of those racial slurs can be spoken, but the other racial slur cannot be spoken. Sure. I find it fascinating that the meaning of those words is irrespective of the way they are treated. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that for people like Alex, who are so big on like tearing down the walls of PC. Yeah. Like it is strange that they would treat them differently. Yeah. Huh. Anyway, I just I think that Thomas is just green. He's inexperienced. He's not good. No, he's terrible on Mike. Like that is real bad. The emails have revealed proof of hunting humans. Tempo is bad. Like, the number of breaks are bad. Like, listen, we're all um people from time to time. But even then, you got to get it in the rhythm. You got to get it in the tone. This dude is falling apart. Yeah. So they get to a little bit of riffing about how they interpret the emails. Sure. And it's a lot of fun. Sure. So, yes, this has been going on for a long time. that it's always been talked about that these hunts happen very similar to like a private ranch where you'd have turkeys running around and they're all enclosed in a place where, you know, they can't escape. So they would take humans that, you know, maybe didn't want to be raped anymore and were starting to fight and then they'd say, all right, we're going to send you out in the field and we'll have our last little fun with you. Well, that's a story. They called it the most dangerous game. And then we have another email here from the Rothschild, Arian Day Rothschild. It says, thrilling hunt, amazing, old mail, amazing hunt. Bankers should be careful. So they're probably killing some globalists that made them mad. They'll also, and again, this is in so many cultures, so much documents. This always comes out. Well, we solved that one. So is the bankers they were hunting? I guess. What? An old male was getting hunted. Banker. See, this is the problem with the most dangerous game. That doesn't feel very dangerous. An old banker? Yeah, I feel like, listen, I've never even hunted a non-human thing. I think I could hunt an old banker. I think I can handle that one. You know, I think there's a range of old bankers. Sure. Some probably a little craftier than others. I was just thinking the word crafty could be applied to an old banker. Yeah. That's true. You know, someone might have been in the service. They've probably got contacts. Sure. But, I mean, we're on the island in this hunt, I imagine. Yeah, you got it. We're not like in an urban setting. No, no, that's true. But you could improvise a fair amount of sharp things in an island. Yeah, I mean, I feel like the problem with hunting another person is that person is kind of able to hunt you back, you know, and they, like, know where you are. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I think that is dumb. And I looked at the email that they're talking about, and I see no evidence that this is indicating that they hunt people. It's very racist. Not this one. Oh, not this one. This one was. The other one was racist. Yes, this one was just about an old male or something and a thrilling hunt and bankers. Weird. It doesn't say anything. Like, the Elon emails are complete thoughts. Yeah. I want to do a wild party with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. At your island. Yes. These are not complete thoughts. They reference something and you don't know what it is. Yeah. And Alex has just decided what it is. Do you think they hunt on horseback? How are you going to get the horses to the island? I mean, hold on. They have yachts that are bigger than fucking... True. Yeah, so they have the capability to get horses there. Okay. Are they horse riders, though? Here's what I would say. Yeah. If they're going through the trouble to bring horses for the sake of, like, an equestrian experience for the hunt... Sure. I think they're going to go farther, like a dragon. Yeah. Yeah. You think so? Yeah, why not? All right. They're rich. They got dragons. Yeah. That does sound right. Or like a big cat or something like that, you know? You know, I don't think cats have strong, like their spines aren't strong enough to hold a human. You can't ride them. You're the person who's saying that there's a clone out there somewhere. They could genetically modify a big cat to have a stronger back. Here's what I'm saying, though. Once you're genetically modifying a big cat with a stronger back, there's more to reach for than just hunting humans. Now you can genetically modify humans to hunt. true yeah see this is what's in the emails when you really get down to it when you get down to it this is what you figure out yeah so uh thomas has figured out some more code and good on him i'm proud of the boy we have another email here that seems to be coded with with the same roth child that says i have your cereal can talk tonight around 2200 so so cereal seems to be another coded word oh my god and cereal actually in latin is a the word for sacrifice it's uh believe we're fighting remonious or sacrificious and oh my god the the old world the romans and and the greeks they would they would have sacrifices built around their crops and their cereal crops their grains so you know every every year when they would go to have their crops, they would have a sacrifice. And so the fact that she's saying cereal here could mean that this is a code for a sacrifice. I have your sacrifice ready. We can talk about it tonight. Could. I mean, why? If you don't study anthropology, the Africans, the Middle Easterners, the Romans, the Asians, the Mesoamericans, they all did sacrifice around the harvest. Okay, so what? So like other cultures in the past have had sacrifices around a harvest. to the god of agriculture or whatever. Doesn't mean that cereal means sacrifice in a fucking email that you read that plausibly could be about cereal. Yeah. Several thousand years before Wikipedia, people were more interested in sacrifice-based weather changing. Now, not so much. Not as... Been a while. Yeah. Been a while since you've been able to change the weather with the sacrifice. I get the tenuous connection that he's making. I suppose. No, I get it. Oh, no, no, no. I can draw it. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not like there is no A to B to C to D or whatever. Right, right, right, right. It's just silly. Yeah. It's stupid. This connection, oh, the word cereal here. Oh, in Latin, cereal looks a lot like sacrifices. People would make sacrifices of grains for the harvest. Yeah. Therefore, Epstein and this Rothschild person are using serial as code for sacrifice. Thank you very much. I will take my doctorate. Here's what I'll say about that. If I can imagine myself in the shoes of the person coming up with said slang and introducing that to another person and then explaining it, if they go, that's a stretch, then I feel like it probably didn't happen the way that, you know? Yeah. I need at least a bunch of examples. Absolutely. Not just this one that he's throwing out. Absolutely. Kind of makes him sound dumb. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's fewer letters than Honey Nut. True. Yeah. So Thomas seems to be wanting to congratulate himself for really covering this story in a way that no one else can. Even though I knew about this decades ago, 30-something years ago from Ted Gunnarsson, I still can't believe it. Let me just stop you. What for you, because you've already super informed, great guy, do a great job. what is it like to see it being confirmed though and out in the open this is a this is a big moment i don't think any of us including myself realize the moment history we're in this is the great reveal this isn't going anywhere it just shows the arrogance i mean for us to be the ones that are are highlighting this and and and going over this every day and saying they're killing kids they're killing kids they're they're doing satanic rituals and you know we don't see that on the mainstream news. Trump's not talking about it. Nobody in Trump's administration is talking about these kids. It's like the excuse that he just had a child prostitute seems to be the narrative for the whole thing. It's like, okay, this was a young, promiscuous girl. There's a limited hangout of 14-year-old girls. No, it's killing and eating people. Yes. Yes. I mean, I'm sold. Why won't the news cover this? I can't think of any reason why the news wouldn't cover this. Ding, ding, ding, ding. Tonight on CNN. Ah. Serial is used in an email, and this proves sacrifice. I mean, here's just another simpler reason. It's going to be harder to go to the island to fire a gun into a restaurant there. You know? That's just not going to happen. No, that's true. No. I just find this self-congratulatory shit, like, it's very funny. It's like, why is no one else covering this? You're dumb. To say it out loud and then to have Alex next to you, like, rooting you on should tell you all you need to know. Yeah. You're caught up in this satanic panic and good for you. You've lost it. And it sucks that you can be so boring about what should be exciting, which is the literal devil. And cannibalism and human hunting and blood drinking. That's exciting. Boring. so uh thomas uh he he thinks like hey you know what if we're ever going to get to the bottom of this we're probably going to have to like really start attacking the victims some of these some of these kids that are getting killed and sacrificed may very well be just you know related to oh i think macron 14 recruited by the teacher obviously a lot of them are actually ritual abuse victims yes a lot a lot of the leaders themselves have been been through this so you know it's tough when when people when people say you know not to go go after some of these people because they're victims too at a certain point you you have to break free of the conditioning and and not commit the crimes yourself and be willing to die to not perpetuate the same evil Well that right I been so focused on this in the last three weeks that I didn instruct a crew until now They'll get the thousands of videos of me 30 years ago, 20 years ago saying it's Satan, this is blood drinking. Here's how it works. But we need to show people that. Yeah, you're not getting enough credit, huh? That's good. so it very well may be the case that someone who's a victim of someone like epstein can go on to become a perpetrator themselves and i think that's fine but i think it's very important to point out that dipshits like thomas and alex can't be trusted to understand what any of that means the type of coverage and sensationalism they engage in is fundamentally irresponsible so they can never really be allowed to pretend that they're working with nuance they're blunt instruments and if they want to make up all kinds of crazy shit about hillary clinton or epstein and witchcraft or cannibalism this is dumb stuff but it doesn't really hurt anyone these guys don't have the discipline that's required to protect victims while trying to investigate suspects if it feels easier to them they will treat victims as suspects and in the process they open them up to all kinds of harassment and re-traumatization it's exactly the same sorts of behavior you've seen uh with alex engage in around mass shooting victims and survivors and and like it's you can't you can't do that you're not good enough to do that yeah it's hard to find suspects who might have done it because they're hiding it's easier to blame victims because they're coming out and saying what they've been uh victimized with you know sure so they're visible and other people aren't if you're lazy as fuck boom who's ever visible done yeah and i think that um i i think that this mentality that is clearly articulated by thomas yep and alex has said it in that patrick bet david interview i believe like it it's just it's an unacceptable uh mission statement for them to have free yourself from the shackles of giving a shit about the people we roll over on our way to a white nation nation yeah and and like you know talk about soros talk about uh hillary public figures and all that kind of stuff you're just being a tabloid yeah and like you yeah it probably you know it's dangerous for them when someone might show up with a gun or try to kill them or something but that doesn't happen all the time and you're just talking shit about these public figures and what have you yeah when you're punching at people who are victims yeah you're a real piece of shit yeah they should know that it's not about that they've broken out of the conditioning of yeah you can't question things it's not that at all it's you are not good enough to do this you don't have skills that are required to deal with this very sensitive and painful shit in a way that isn't dangerous yeah anytime you're punching down it takes a lot of words to justify and da-da-da-da-da and specific context and all these things that you don't you're you wouldn't understand when you're punching up it's real easy yeah watch that guy watch this they talk about howard lutnick punch up all you want punch up all you want i was given howard lutnick the benefit of the doubt me too and and being like okay you know trump got this guy um he knows seems to know a lot about commerce and and the tariffs and the tariffs you know to me sounded like the greatest thing ever financially to make these other countries pay back what they've taken from us to reboot our economy no doubt globalism was about starting the 80s one-sided trade deals to screw us to the industrializes it was a great plan but let nick the democrat that nope sorry go ahead and you know people were calling into the show talking about let nick saying hey he wasn't there on 9-11 um you know he he had to take his kids to school that day trade options you have to do it we'll go to that in a moment yeah he had to take his uh kid to school that day and you know you have larry silverstein that didn't show up to that day either because he had a medical appointment and bought double insurance the week before right so so he said i'm making like was it three billion like six billion or something on the towers right and terrorism insurance which they normally won't give you but they gave him so i wouldn't want to think that lutnik would be willing to kill his own brother and the rest of his family if he had prior knowledge that this event was going to be taking place however knowing how mk ultra works and how this black bell ring works and how satanism works if he is involved how does satanism work so if he is involved in that that that's you know a really really dark person that but but this is why i'm mad at myself because i i've forgotten more than Most people know. I remember on 9-11 and in the weeks after, and it was a big stock trader, Max Kaiser, years later, it was Lutnick's firm that did the main put options against the two airlines the week before. So, yeah, Howard Lutnick maybe killed his own family on 9-11 in order to short airplane stocks or something. Sure, whatever. That seems, again, it seems like they're not treating that with maybe the seriousness. No. that it deserves of course not like a man killing his own family in any fashion regardless of whether or not it is through 9-11 is a real tragedy no it is it is but when you're talking about someone like howard lutnik or someone who's a public figure and someone who's like insulated in a incredibly powerful position yeah who cares if you're saying like this kind of shit talk yeah Fuck that guy. You just can't do it with, you know, private people and people who, you know, it's so different. And I don't think that they care. No, they don't. It's just like, and it's hard to believe because it's so obvious that so few times are you in the wrong if you're punching up. And so few times are you in the right if you're punching down. How is this complicated? That shouldn't be. It seems so simple. mm-hmm so um alex uh has a uh email here that he's just sort of lying about emails came out last week and they're where they're going oh yeah it wasn't really hot jaggers i fly the plane remote control they're like bragging about him remote control baby which was what it was yes remote control baby yeah it's a remote control baby yeah that was in the emails remote control baby um yeah so i guess 9-11 sold again what a weird thing uh he murders an entire family just to make some money. Finger guns, buddy. Baby. Oh, boy, baby. Yikes. So, yeah, that email isn't real. No. But the ones with Steve Bannon are. That is a problem. And Alex and Thomas get to talking about Bannon a little bit. And Alex, he really feels like he's close to, like, I'm going to take the shot. Ooh. Well, I'm not defending Bannon, but Bannon's a pure political animal. So he went from a brokerage guy to a Hollywood guy to, like, in the Trump White House. You go to the Rothschild representative. You go to the Rothschild agent. You go to the David Rockefeller Trilogy Commission agent if you want this power. So, I mean, he put the ring on. Bannon met with the devil. He went to the island. Now it's coming out. He didn't tell people. That's bad. And people aren't even scared to even attack him from what I'm told. It's just that they're like, wow, this is terrible. And they're just kind of like waiting to say, what do we say? Well, I don't even call Bannon. He's just sending me text articles, news. Hey, let's get this judge in. Let's help promote this. All is pro-America. And the stuff that's in there is like, let's get rid of the leftists in the UK and Europe. And he's got Epstein helping him do that. You know, it's like the work is mainly good. That's why I'm like, what am I going to do? Because like Bannon's doing a lot of good stuff here. Excuse me? He's also making jokes about young girls with Epstein. So he's going to the aisle and not telling people. He should have come clean earlier. See, I'm already going where I'm going. I want to do this right because I want to write a bunch of notes, get a bunch of exhibits. The point is he put the ring of Mordor on. So that's an excuse that Alex uses for people. When he says that they put the ring of Mordor on, that's a way for him to preserve the decency of the person. Frodo put the ring on. Right. Yeah. Putting on the ring is saying that, like, yeah, some of these actions are evil, but the person's good. Maybe it's unwise to put on the ring. So this just fucking... According to literally every wise person in the book, period, it is unwise to put on the ring. But who knows? Yeah. Could be anything. But Alex just, he feels like, it's like, okay, Bannon sucks. He sucks. He went to the island. He didn't fucking tell anybody. He's making jokes about underage people with Bannon. or with Epstein. But he's also doing this good stuff that I like. Where's he going with this? Knowing how Satanism works. There are a lot of kind of just Christmas and Easter Satanists. So yeah, he's a Satanist who went to the island and met with the devil or whatever. But it's like, it's not that big of a deal. You know, it's like he's more even a cultural Satanist, really. You know. Okay, now that's interesting. So I just don't know what Alex's position is. I can't I can't tell like he seems to be pretty easy he wants to attack Bannon but he's not letting himself right and the feeling that I got is like I think he just doesn't know if he's allowed to here's my problem with the Bannon thing you read what he's doing in all of this it's overall pro freedom anti-globalist other than undermining Trump and saying maybe we should 25th amendment Trump but he'll say well I was doing that to get the confidence of the bad guy you could hear that argument but the silence is very loud there's an email from bannon saying that he's the one who got john bolton into the trump administration yeah no i i i think man is bad a chameleon and when he saw us winning the liberty movement winning i'm not saying it's bad i'm saying that's where i'm going you just said he was down yet it's kind of like i got a big you just said you think he's bad it's rising it's not done yet it's done an egg it's getting crispy but You got to flip it. And when I'm done, I'm going to missiles up. Sunny side. But I'm not ready yet. I haven't heard back from the people who tell me if it's okay for me to burn Bannon. This feels very, I have not gotten my arm. Roger hasn't gone back to me. I don't know exactly what I'm supposed to do here. What are my marching orders? Because obviously on the surface, I should be guns blazing on this guy. It seems very easy. He's a Satanist. He's bad. A couple seconds later. I'm not saying he's bad. Come on. I'm not saying he's bad. Right. You know what everybody loves from their tip of the spear? Real wishy-washy nonsense. Yeah. Ambivalent double talk. Yeah. That makes me, if I hear from a leader, ambivalent double talk, I say, sir, I will follow. Yeah. So I think what's going on for Alex is that he thinks that there's a way to save Bannon. Right. And so he pitches to Bannon, like, what you need to do in order to make it out of this. All right. Here's what I think. He was a social climber, political guy, smart, got in, kissed the ass of the system, got in overall. I think it was a populist patriot, but wore the ring of Mordor. And then he knew this was coming out years ago, so he really proved himself. Him and Epstein talk about, I'm going to be a media guy, so I'm going to counter. He told Epstein that too. So he wanted to reprove himself ahead of all this and build a network so important that people would forgive him for this. Steve, you need to spill your guts, and I think you'll be forgiven. because I think I get the picture of what you did, but you need to tell us that's what it is, or you're fried, bro. You're fucked. You're fucked. So, yeah, just here's the storyline that we'll accept, and if you want to do that, good. Otherwise, I probably am going to have to really take these things seriously. You're a great guy. You've done a lot of good work. It seems like it should be harder for me to forgive pedophilia, But on the other hand, I guess it's not. You, Bannon, made a calculation that there was going to be stuff about you that came out. Yep. And so you made a network that was too big to fail. Yep. And would be too damaging for us to attack. Yep. In order to insulate yourself from the consequences of these things coming out. Oh, you know who else did that? Jeffrey Epstein. Oh, man. You know, the two of them did this long interview. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, did they know each other for a really long time? Seemed friendly. Huh. Yeah. So anyway, good luck, Bannon. Good luck, Alex, figuring out how to spin this fucking thing. Why? But we have one last clip here, and it's Alex telling Congress what they need to do. That's a real good question. What does Congress need to do? Give me the fucking names. Okay. Give me the names. All right. I want to see those fucking names. And so I'm telling everybody here. because we've had this shit for weeks and i've seen anna polina luna who i love calls me all the time we talk all you guys saying oh god it's horrible you won't believe the names release the fucking names okay i don't cuss i got a big vocabulary but it gives people attention when i say it fucking release it fucking release it fucking release it everybody better start beating the drum hey you congress including hakeem jeffries and aoc and the senators all of them Yeah. I see these Democrat senators. Oh, Trump's in there a million times. Yeah. All of them, but just the Democratic ones. He's involved in a cover-up. We're not absconding for him. I want the fucking names. Not a very big vocabulary, though. The fucking redacted names. You have it? Oh, there's more stuff we haven't got. Great, get that. Don't you distract. You see what I'm saying here? Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty easy to see what you're saying here. About the fucking names. Not whenever you use the word absconding to mean protecting. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I think you're in trouble when you're screaming at Congress to give you the fucking names. Right. And then you have to make a quick caveat that, yeah, Trump, his name's in there, but it's all bullshit. What he's doing is covering it up. Right. That's not good. You're in a bad spot. See, I'm mad at Congress for being too weak to do something about it. But I'm mad at Trump for being too strong to allow them to do something about it. And Trump, if you think about it, is too strong to not get involved. Right. You know, like a lot of people would just, you know, be a bystander watching this mess happen. No, no, no, no. He rolled up his sleeves and decided I'm getting messy. Yeah. I'm getting in the middle of this thing. I'm covering it up. I mean. What a hero. I don't know how these, you know, it's like there is a part of me that has a like, I don't know what I would describe it as, like a visceral admiration. I don't think my physical form would be capable of continuing to make words in defense of Donald Trump at this point. Right. Like I literally think it's not physically possible for me. So in a way there is something that they can do that I can't do. No, definitely. And I think that that's the overall feeling that I get across the board from this episode. Yeah. Is that Alex is very near his breaking point of being able to do that. Right. There is this like. real like oh god damn it i'm not gonna fucking i'm not gonna let my dad get away with murder i'm not covering up this trump i can't do this but also lesser of two evils i can't put up with bannon doing these but he also did a lot of great stuff trying to destroy the leftists like he's just stuck there's just yeah and it's kind of funny yeah but um you know what really sucks about that is that people do get, like anything, people just get inured to it, you know? And it's like, well, you know, I haven't done anything about this, so the next thing, I'm going to have the same wishy-washy conversation with myself about it because I didn't do anything about the last time. So why would this time? Take us back to 2006. Right, absolutely. The executive must be punished. Or else we're going to end up in 2026. It's hard not to think that there was something to be said about that. Yeah. Yeah, Alex had a point back then. He also was wrong about a lot of other stuff. He was wrong about everything. Yeah, I don't know. It's interesting to come and see this vision of him after enjoying some of the 2006 times. Yeah. The starkness of his abilities, his skills, his tool set. Yep. Like, it's just, they're so different. He sucks a lot now. Yeah, it is like a, I don't know. it is it is like that vh1 behind the music kind of uh uh rhythm of like all right we're coming up here and now we're in the follow years and you know that whole thing and he's not gonna have a reunion tour no i don't that's not happening i don't think so and i think that um you know like the skills and the ability that he's putting forth here in this this present day episode like he's really lucky that he tried hard earlier yeah because this person has no place in the market there's nothing interesting or compelling about what he can do now it's all just coasting on the reputation that he built in vhs and early internet days legacy yeah um and i think that that's uh good good for you enjoy your phone call with steve bannon yeah we'll see how that goes Oh, God. But yeah, I don't know. How do you feel? I feel like Satanism used to be a much bigger deal breaker. You know, like even worshiping Satan a little bit was going to get you in trouble. Now we're getting all like, well, you know, Satanists can do good. Right. Satanism, you can toe dip. You know, you can like check in a little. Like, okay, all right. You guys, you know what? Maybe you guys have a point. Satan. I feel like you can't even have a little bit of that. Yeah. Yeah, it should be if you touch the water, you get sucked in. You know, like that's how it's supposed to be. It's almost like maybe in every possible telling of a Satan story, there's a small crack at first that gets a person to do something that maybe they wouldn't otherwise do that allows Satan in. and then all of a sudden, after a period of time, Satan has taken over. I've heard these stories before. It's almost like it's literally every single fucking story. Speaking of Satan, though, I really do want Alex's Bone Temple review because I wonder what he would think of Ralph Fiennes. Yeah, doing the musical number. Yep, yep, yep. God. Would that be? Dude, dude. You have to think he would think it was cool because it is cool, but it also has to be predictive programming, right? Okay, okay, okay. All right, all right. Alex is on Manect now. no i don't want to waste the money we're not doing it no no no no no absolutely try to get him to do a bone temple review absolutely not all right fine it's not worth it i'd rather spend 50 000 getting patrick bett day but whatever his name him to do a bone time absolutely tell me about the bone temple pdp all right fine yeah we'll find something that he's done we'll be in the past or the present who knows but we will be back yeah uh but until then we have a website indeed we do it's knowledgefight.com yep we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i am the mysterious professor and now here comes the sex robot andy in chansas you're on the air thanks for holding hello alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you