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EP: 388 Nephilim Kings and the Fourth Industrial Age with Ali Siadatan *members only trailer

25 min
Jan 8, 20263 months ago
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Summary

Ali Siadatan discusses biblical ages as templates for future history, arguing that the pre-flood era of the Nephilim—hybrid offspring of fallen angels and humans—parallels end-times prophecy. He explores advanced ancient civilizations, lost knowledge systems, and the possibility that angelic beings operated within physical laws rather than supernatural magic.

Insights
  • Biblical ages function as cyclical templates; understanding which age we inhabit reveals both pitfalls and divine wisdom for that era
  • Fallen angels transmitted advanced knowledge (military arts, pharmacology, architecture) to create civilizations in their own image, not through magic but by manipulating physical creation
  • Ancient mythologies across cultures (Sumerian, Hindu, biblical) describe the same pre-flood period of god-kings and advanced technology, suggesting a unified historical record
  • Technology is fundamentally the organization of God's creation according to bodies of knowledge; advanced beings simply possessed deeper understanding of natural laws
  • The Nephilim narrative challenges traditional church theology that minimizes physical creation and assumes angels operate outside natural law
Trends
Growing interest in reinterpreting ancient texts through lens of advanced pre-flood civilizations and lost technological knowledgeConvergence of biblical scholarship with archaeological discoveries of underwater cities and advanced stone constructionShift from viewing angels as purely supernatural beings to understanding them as advanced intelligences operating within physical lawsIncreased exploration of apocryphal texts (Book of Enoch, Maccabees) as legitimate historical records alongside canonical scriptureCross-cultural mythological analysis revealing parallel narratives of god-kings, advanced knowledge transfer, and civilization destructionTheological reexamination of end-times prophecy through the lens of cyclical biblical ages rather than linear progressionInterest in suppressed archaeological evidence and institutional gatekeeping of discoveries (Smithsonian references)
Topics
Nephilim and hybrid offspring of fallen angelsPre-flood advanced civilizations and technologyBiblical ages as historical templatesBook of Enoch and apocryphal textsSumerian King List and ancient rulershipUnderwater archaeology and lost citiesFallen angels and knowledge transmissionEnd-times prophecy and Matthew 24Ancient technology and stone constructionGethsemane and Mount of Olives symbolismAntiochus Epiphanes and Maccabean historyHanukkah and the menorahSodom and Gomorrah destructionKrishna and Hindu mythology parallelsAngelic beings and natural law
Companies
Adobe
Sponsor promoting Acrobat Studio as AI-powered PDF workspace for document summarization and report generation
Smithsonian
Referenced as institution allegedly suppressing or collecting large skeleton discoveries related to ancient giants
Harvest House Publishing
Declined to publish Chuck Missler's 'Alien Encounters' due to theological objections about angels and human relations
People
Ali Siadatan
Guest expert discussing Nephilim, biblical ages, ancient civilizations, and end-times prophecy interpretation
Jesus
Referenced as first person in recorded history called 'rabbi' and source of Matthew 24 end-times discourse
Chuck Missler
Baptist preacher and author who pioneered modern Nephilim theology; self-published 'Alien Encounters' after rejection
Moses
Biblical figure shown heavenly things and instructed to create earthly duplicates including the menorah
Azazel
Fallen angel credited with introducing military arts and sword knowledge to pre-flood humanity
Antiochus Epiphanes
Hellenistic ruler who placed Zeus idol in Jewish Holy of Holies, triggering Maccabean rebellion
Krishna
Hindu deity described as Nephilim born of gods; ruled underwater city of Dwarka destroyed by fire from sky
Einstein
Referenced for quote on the incomprehensibility of the universe being comprehensible to human consciousness
Quotes
"The sons of God have appeared on the stage of history like in the days of Noah again. Their hybrid off-springs are among us again. Their knowledge is pouring into our civilization again to accelerate us forward."
Ali SiadatanOpening segment
"The history of our earth is so different from what we can imagine."
Ali SiadatanMid-discussion
"What is technology? What's this table, this desk? It's nothing more than an understanding of how to put together the physical creation of God according to a body of knowledge."
Ali SiadatanTechnology explanation
"Einstein said the most incomprehensible thing about the universe is that we can comprehend it."
Ali SiadatanConsciousness discussion
"These ages of biblical history are pregnant with templates of future history."
Ali SiadatanBiblical ages framework
Full Transcript
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And finally, they may once again rule us with Nephilim kings. Like the book of Daniel suggests, the ten kings who are born of the coming live seeds and the sea of the serpent who is an Osteopoeia, the woman, might be something you see through the ages like the wheat and tares that are historically through the ages there are wheats and tares or you can see this, the scatologically, that there is a seed of the serpent like futuristic and a seed of the woman, Christ, that have a battle together like David and Goliath did which would mean the final king of the earth is of the Nephilim bloodline and so are the other seven kings that are with him again matching the template of the days of Noah where the sons of God and their hybrid off-springs ruled the earth. The history of our earth is so different from what we can imagine. I'm sure it's a chariot. The Smithsonian, and if they found out about a large skeleton somewhere, was to go get it. I'm going to assume at least one person is right because if one person's right it busts the paradigm. It all goes back to the fallen chariot. And the problem with the modern day church, they have a very truncated view of the supernatural. This backdrop is just pregnant with all kinds of meaning associated with this Mount Hermon event. And this guy defects from the kingdom. That's a big deal. All right, welcome back to Blurry Creatures. We have another wild ride in the mind of Ali Siadatin. He's back in the studio with us. We're going to do this one on the rise of Atlantis. We're going to get into some of the weird strange things of ancient history. And the best of mind to take us back there, Ali Siadatin. Welcome back to the podcast, Ali. Thank you so much for having me back. It really is always nice to come down here. Take us 65 miles an hour from the start. 88 miles an hour is my preference. Let's do it. The rise of Atlantis is interesting. The reason I kind of thought about that concept was because in Matthew 24, the disciples say to Jesus, tell us about the signs of your coming in the end of the age. And that's because in the Hebrew thinking, imagine the New Testament hasn't been written yet. These guys are a bunch of devout Orthodox Jews with their teacher, with their rabbi. Do you know that there was a professor from Hebrew University in Jerusalem a woman and she wanted to know what was the oldest text, written text, written document in which the word rabbi appeared. And so she's a worldwide search and to her surprise, it was the New Testament. Jesus is the first person in written recorded history to be called rabbi. So written down. Written down. Written down. So they're sitting around with the rabbi and they're like, tell us about the end of the age. Why? Because if you look at the Old Testament, you'll see there are many ages. Like there is the pre-Diluvian age. There is the age of Abraham. There's the age of Noah. And then there's the story of Israel and all these ages. And that's why you get the, in the Protestant fold, you get the dispensationalists that divide the history of the Bible and dispensations, ages, right? And they go, there's the church age. Then now we're about to go into the 70th week of Daniel and Liv, the Israel comes back and has a moment and that kind of thing. So the reason these ages are in the Bible, the Jews reasoned was because they were templates of future history. And that every generation should ask themselves, which biblical age am I living in? Because not only will you know what the pitfalls are, but what is the wisdom of God for that age in which you live in? Maybe you live in the age of apostasy. Like maybe we live in an age where, you know, the Christian foundations of the Western are being eroded and we're going back to the paganism of Rome before Christianity came to it from Israel. Okay, that's an interesting age. So there's ages. So when they're saying to him, which will be, what's the age? I think that it's clear in the context of their culture that they're saying to him, which biblical age will correspond to the events of, you know, the end of this and establishment of the kingdom of the Messiah. And he says it'll be like the days of Noah. But he also talks about the days of the Abomination of Desolation. He says, when you see the Abomination of Desolation, that the prophet Daniel spoke of in the Holy of Holies, you know, escaped Jerusalem, relieved Judea. What was that about? That was the time of Antiochus Epiphanes, who put an idol of Zeus in the Holy of Holies, because he was a servant of Zeus, a devout servant. And that led to the story of the Maccabeans, this Levitical family rebelling against the Hellenization and their establishment of the light of God, which was, you know, the story of the lighting of the candlestick that Moses had seen a vision of heaven. God showed him heavenly things, and he was supposed to create earthly duplicates. So that represents the light of God. And can I make a little rabbit trail for a moment? Yeah, it's the right place for that. So one thing that blew my mind once I was in Jerusalem, you go to the Mount of Olives, where there are these like four, five hundred year old olive trees. And then underneath the Mount of Olives, there's a cave, and that cave is called Gethsemane. There is no garden of Gethsemane, not in the New Testament. The word garden doesn't exist in the New Testament. The way that it doesn't say is there's three magi's. We don't know how many magi's came. The Orthodox Church records 12 magi's with an army walking with them, because they were king makers. The same way the New Testament says Gethsemane, it doesn't say garden of Gethsemane. But if you go underneath, there's an olive press, and that says Gethsemane, because that's what it means. It means olive press in Hebrew. So you go in there and the Franciscans man that, but what's special about that is that the olives that are grown up in this garden and squeezed in that olive press are for a very specific use. They are the olives whose oil is to light the menorah of the temple, which is across the street where he gets crucified. So he goes in the olive press, the cave, where he's crushed under the sorrow of the weight of what he's carrying. As he prays, the father, take this cup away from me and sweats blood. He's then crushed and then on the other temple, he becomes the light of the world like the candlestick shines out. So he follows the path of the holy olive that's made for the holy lamp that lights the world. He goes to that place to get crushed in the soul and then gets crushed and then lights the world from the other mountain. So the mountain, it makes more sense once you're there. But anyhow, Moses is shown these heavenly things and told to create a duplicate. And that's why he creates this menorah. And that's what the makhibi is light up and that becomes Hanukkah. And so that age is mentioned by Jesus in Matthew 24 as another biblical age that will be relevant for the events leading to his coming. So right there, he has two ages just in that Matthew 24, the days of Noah, a biblical age of the book of Genesis, and the days of Antiochus Epiphanes prophesied by Daniel and lived outside of the scope of the Old Testament writing, but recorded in the book of makhibi, which is an apocryphal book, but a welly, very respected book. So this was a common belief. The age is the Bible, like the look of the age of Passover. Jesus is the blood, is the lamb, his blood on the door. The Pharaoh is the representative of the gods, like the Antichrist, who's the representative of a spiritual force is defeated by the Lamb of God, and the people that are waiting for that redemption are freed. So the story of the Passover is not just a story that pertains to the first coming, like he is symbolically and spiritually redeeming humanity through his blood from the power of the gods, but it's also referring to his second coming, the concrete freedom of those who are in bondage under a system of governance into his utopia, into his messianic kingdom, the one that he will establish on the earth. So the third Passover pertains also to the second coming. So these ages of biblical history are pregnant with templates of future history. Pregnant with mania. And pregnant with you. And so this is kind of what the, I think the backdrop of the conversation is between the disciples and Jesus when they ask me about the age. And he says it'll be like the days of Noah. And we have this whole insight that started in the 20th century by a Baptist preacher really. And the idea was that, wait a second, maybe there's more to this statement than is dreamt of in the philosophy of seminaries. The days of Noah were the days of the Nephilim. Now that was controversial. You know, when Chuck Misler wrote alien encounters, he couldn't get harvest house publishing, which was the largest publishing house, the Christian world to publish it, even though he was friends with the owner and had him over for dinner to pitch him the book. Because they told him, listen, angels don't have relations with humans. That's our belief. And we're not going to publish a book that says anything remotely in that direction. So it was very difficult. So he had to self publish alien encounters. It was very difficult to get every stage of the story has been difficult to get out. But the days of the Nephilim were a very special time. So let's open it up. What were the days of Noah? So the Bible talks about the passing of rulership down to humanity. Rulership is specifically mentioned as some of the things that says, rulership hadn't been passed down. When you look at the Sumerian list of kings, it says that rulership first appeared in Eridu, you know, and then it says here was the flood and then rulership was passed down from heaven to earth in Kish after the flood. And that's where archaeologists actually found some of the oldest, you know, administrative ordinance of rulership. And this idea that kings receive rulership from the gods and the house of David from the tribe of Judah receives it from God. This idea of rulership passed down. Then we have the image bearers of the fallen angels. The sons of God have children with the daughters of men and they create these kings that are going to rule over humanity. But then we have the seven bodies of knowledge. We have what we would call today's sciences, you know, the study of, you know, how to eat the roots. This was very advanced like pharmacology, which is the term for sorcery in Greek. Pharmakia. Pharmakia. We have the understanding of celestial mechanics. We have the understanding of military arts, which will become the means of empire. So rulership is passed down and you see the sons of Cain. When Cain builds a city, he has the knowledge of architecture, but all of his sons, the metallurgies like to will Cain was to create idols. The music, the first of the musician was to create hymns and psalms to the gods, the fallen angels. Everything in the line of Cain is evil. You know, it says that one of his sons took two wives. There was the first polygamy. But actually there was a root, like we're talking about roots, that a woman took that she could no longer get pregnant ever. It was like birth control. And so that woman, he took only for sex. The other woman he took for childbearing. So this was kind of the evil of it. You know, there was a lot of evil in the line of Cain. And this type of world that these guys created in the fallen angels had tremendous amount of knowledge that was passed down to humanity. And that's what's recorded in the book of Enoch. And that's kind of changes your idea of angels because we think of angels as magical beings. You know, like they arrive, they wiggle their noses, they snap their fingers and things happen on earth for us. They don't adhere to the laws of the created order. And that's because we also tend to minimize the importance of the physical creation. We look down at the physical creation, even though it's a magnificent place with all kinds of laws and rules that are super complex. And we can't even figure the universe out in the genetic system and all of that. But somehow in the Middle Ages and before that the Gnostic tradition of the Greeks diminished the importance of the physical creation. So when we think of angels, we assume that they must be beings that are above and beyond the physical. They must be above and beyond the primitive rules of God's creation. They can't be operating in it or through it. And that's just an inherited idea of the church. The text says that only they created these kingdoms on the earth. But the book of Enoch, which is quoted by Jude in the New Testament says that they passed down these bodies of knowledge. And when you think about these bodies of knowledge, you realize they're just a more advanced understanding of God's creation. That Adam and Eve and their children were created with the breath of life into their nostrils, which ignited a divine consciousness which allowed us to understand the laws of the created order. The dolphins and the lions, they can't figure out the laws of physics, but we can. Einstein said the most incomprehensible thing about the universe is that we can comprehend it. Because we have a faculty that has been given to us when God breathed his breath into us. That puts us in the same category as the sons of God who also understand the laws of creation and who know more of it than we do. And they can manipulate these laws of creation to create. What is technology? What's this table, this desk? It's nothing more than an understanding of how to put together the physical creation of God according to a body of knowledge. You know how to put it together, you can create a desk, you can create a microphone, you can create a spaceship. You're just taking the substance of God's physical creation and you're organizing and ordering it according to an understanding. The deeper that understanding, the more fantastical stuff you can create. So beings who have been around before we were created may have known more. They've been around longer. They've been around longer of how things work. So they're not only giving us this knowledge before the flood for their own purposes because they're creating a civilization in their own image. But they're giving it to us to pervert the creation of God. It's not just knowledge, it's perverted knowledge. Like the military arts and the sword, which God says to Azazel, who is the giver of this knowledge later through the prophet Isaiah, that he will turn the swords and the spears into pruning hooks and farming instruments, plowshares, as the messianic kingdom comes on the earth in the age of peace, the Sabbath of history. But he's directly taking the sword that Azazel introduced to mankind before the flood, that knowledge. And God is referencing that knowledge. And this is also a, this is not a uniquely a brayic understanding, right? Like you think about Sumeria, right? The Sumerian list of kings or kings list is like eight kings that ruled in the Deluvian area. And then they have some crazy numbers of 240,000 years, but you have these God kings that ruled in Sumerian mythos, mythologies. They call it now, but this is also, it sounds like it's all saying the same thing. It is. It's talking about this period of humanity. Now the Bible comes to always give us the true record because this is the words of God. And then we have the influence of the fallen angels into human thinking, and then we have man's own traditions. So before the flood, these guys, you know, give all this knowledge to humanity, and they create an entire civilization and they put their own sons to rule it. And it's very advanced. If you go to the coast of Taiwan and Google the island of or Mu, it's just M-U. You'll see these pyramids that are underground around Taiwan. Underwater. Underwater. Because some of the oldest cities, you have to use marine archeology to figure them out. And you see how that stone is cut. I mean, there's a lot of them. They're giant pyramids. That's not something you can cut with a chisel. Like it's, this is not chisel cutting. Yeah. And fire coming from the sky and destroying Saram and Gomorrah. That's another common story. You look at, for instance, Krishna, who was, you know, this Hindu, Nephilim, born of the, of the world of gods. And the whole modern day Hinduism draws heavily from the Bhagavad Gita, the song of Bal Krishna. He was one of the Balim. And the British said, oh, there was, he was just a mythology. He's mentioned the Mahabharata, but in the 80s and the 82, 83 Indian archeologists looking into the Indian Ocean, they discovered the city of Duarka underwater. Which was supposed to be a mythological city. Yes. Because that's where Krishna ruled. Right. According to the Mahabharata. But what happened to it was destroyed by fire from the sky. Interesting. And so, so similar is the third destruction of Saram and Gomorrah. And you think, did God tell Saram and Gomorrah let go and to these angels, destroy Saram and Gomorrah and Abraham is there as an eyewitness to it for us. And these angels came in, they just went like this and Saram and Gomorrah. Or did God close his eyes and imagine sulfur raining from the sky, which is possible, I guess. But also it's possible these angels use the creation's laws to carry out the missions that God gives them. And they may have had a technology to destroy it because technology is nothing more than a way of organizing God's creation according to a body of knowledge. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.