Nightcap

Best of NFL News Part 2: Shannon Sharpe YAWNS at Aaron Rodgers likely BACK, HEARTBROKEN Over Tragic Passing of Rondale Moore at 25

53 min
Feb 25, 2026about 2 months ago
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Summary

The Nightcap episode covers NFL offseason news including Aaron Rodgers' potential return to the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Philadelphia Eagles' offensive coordinator change, and the Baltimore Ravens' new coaching staff. The episode concludes with a somber discussion about the tragic death of Vikings wide receiver Rondale Moore at age 25.

Insights
  • Aaron Rodgers' return to the NFL requires significant supporting cast improvements, particularly at receiver, as he is no longer the dominant force of his youth
  • New coaching staff implementation requires buy-in from star players; public pressure tactics may backfire with franchise quarterbacks compared to private communication
  • Voluntary offseason programs are critical for team chemistry and system installation, especially with new coordinators and schemes
  • Mental health struggles in professional sports are often invisible; players may appear fine publicly while battling severe internal challenges
  • Injury recurrence and career setbacks can create psychological burdens that extend beyond physical rehabilitation
Trends
NFL teams prioritizing offensive line health and receiver depth as critical success factors for quarterback performanceCoaching staff communication strategies shifting toward accountability messaging in public forumsIncreased focus on mental health resources and peer support systems within professional sports organizationsVoluntary offseason participation becoming a cultural indicator of team commitment and championship aspirationsContract restructuring for elite quarterbacks who outperform initial agreements becoming standard practiceInjury-prone label stigma affecting player psychology and career trajectory in competitive sportsNew coaching regime integration requiring early relationship-building and system familiarity during offseason
Companies
Pittsburgh Steelers
Discussed as likely destination for Aaron Rodgers if he returns to NFL with new head coach Mike Tomlin
Philadelphia Eagles
Featured discussion on offensive coordinator change and Saquon Barkley's adaptation to new system under Sean Mannion
Baltimore Ravens
Analyzed new offensive coordinator Declan Doyle's approach to offseason program participation and Lamar Jackson's inv...
Minnesota Vikings
Context for Rondale Moore's tragic death and his career with the organization
NFL Players Association
Issued statement regarding Rondale Moore's passing and mental health resources available to players
People
Aaron Rodgers
NFL quarterback potentially returning to Pittsburgh Steelers; discussed as aging player needing strong supporting cast
Lamar Jackson
Baltimore Ravens franchise quarterback; central to debate about offseason program participation and championship aspi...
Saquon Barkley
Philadelphia Eagles running back adapting to new offensive system under coordinator Sean Mannion in year nine of career
Rondale Moore
Minnesota Vikings wide receiver who died by suicide at age 25 after suffering multiple ACL injuries
Declan Doyle
New Baltimore Ravens offensive coordinator emphasizing offseason program participation and championship standards
Mike Tomlin
Pittsburgh Steelers head coach potentially acquiring Aaron Rodgers as quarterback
Sean Mannion
Philadelphia Eagles offensive coordinator replacing Kevin Petula; implementing new system for Saquon Barkley
Hollywood Brown
Former Arizona Cardinals teammate of Rondale Moore who received final message from him hours before his death
Jamal Adams
NFL player who tweeted about injury stigma and mental health struggles following Rondale Moore's death
Quotes
"If he's going to play, I believe it's going to be for the Pittsburgh Steelers."
Shannon Sharpe
"You don't know. Sometimes what a person is going through. And unless you've been through something, I'm talking about really been through something, you have no earthly idea, none."
Shannon Sharpe
"You don't call out your fucking franchise quarterback. You don't do it. You're going to piss him off."
Shannon Sharpe
"The process can make you lose yourself. This issue is real. No matter how much support you get, you still got to fight that battle alone."
Jamal Adams
"What was so bad that he thought this was the only way?"
Shannon Sharpe
Full Transcript
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New head coach, Camille Yerdy, Mike McCarthy. will this even if he comes back are the steelers legitimate contenders for the super bowl next season i mean i wouldn't say legitimate contenders i mean they're legitimate you know contenders to i mean in the afc you know depending on what afc north afc north hey um but they they still they still got a long way to go they got to work on that defense too um as great as the players as great as the names are you know that they had on that defense they didn't play like it huh no they and play like it. They need another weapon to go alongside D.K. Metcalf. They do. They need another, I'm talking about a reliable option to go along D.K. Metcalf. He can't do it by himself. Obviously, as great as Aaron Rodgers was, he is not the Aaron Rodgers of old, but he needs players around him to elevate his level of play. So he doesn't have to wait, wait. He doesn't have to take the burden of the shoulders in having to elevate the players around him because he's not the same. He's not the young Aaron Rodgers of old. and it would be great if they get a better supporting cast around him. I mean, running game is decent. Get you one solid receiver, just one more receiver that you can count on, that you can be blindfolded, you can hike the ball, and you know exactly where he's going to be and you know he's going to be open for you every single time. You mean shoulder to bird? They need it bad, boy. You mean shoulder to bird? Yeah, shoulder to bird. Shoulder to bird. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't had to use that in so long. You got it. I was like, hold on. Bird to shoulder. What did I say? What did I say? You said bird in the shoulder. I said it backwards. My bad. Yeah. Now, but you know what, Ocho? You, Ocho, we already know what you meant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Yeah, I agree, Ocho. I agree. I mean, because, you know, look, I don't think, I don't, look, it's going to be very interesting to see the Patriots, can they replicate because they won the division, you'll have a more difficult schedule. You'll play division winners and you play a different conference this year. Buffalo, what do they do? The Broncos, what do they do? The Texans, what do they do? All those teams, you know, the Texans, that defense, I don't see that defense dropping off. Hell no. Maybe, Ocho, they go get a protector. Okay. Because I don't really see, I don't think they need a whole lot. I don't think they need a whole lot because they got guys they can go get after the quarterback. Mm-hmm. The secondary. That secondary is top tier. Phenomenal. Yes. Yes. Oh, yes. Yeah. Tankdale coming back? Yes. You know, they got a couple of receivers that played really well in the absence of Tankdale. Mm-hmm. I wouldn't be opposed if they went and got a tight end. I like Dalton Schultz, but if I can find somebody that, look, We saw the tight end, the benefit that it brought Chicago. We saw what it did for Warren and Indy. We saw Kyle Pitts Jr. when they gave him opportunities, how the offense flows when they get the tight end involved. Right. And so I agree with you. I'm not like, oh, yeah, Aaron Rodgers come back and now they got McCarthy and they're going to be favorites? No. No. No. But what it does do, it gives you a chance. It gives you a chance to compete. Because if Aaron Rodgers doesn't come back, oh, my goodness, it's going to get ugly. It's going to be nasty. Sean Mannion replaced Kevin Petula as the Eagles' OC, and Saquon said he loved the challenge of putting yourself in a new system, and that's what he knows. This is what sets us apart from everyone else. that he's played for so far, Saquon said. I'm super excited about it. I'm going on year nine, which is crazy to say. I've had a lot of different coaches and head coaches and been a part of a lot of systems. I don't think I really came across a system like this. For me, it's refreshing. You get something new. You get to learn something new. I ain't going to lie to you, Ocho. I ain't like learning a new system. No, I mean, I wouldn't either. Because you got to say, because while you learned it, Ocho, you out there like, damn, am I supposed to? Mm-hmm. I look like, take it off. Yeah. I mean, listen. Go ahead, what you thinking? Listen, the best part of being in the system and having continuity of knowing exactly what to do and being able to play the game really fast and not having to think, you know, it is a great thing. Obviously, you have the off-season program. You get to get in your playbook. And by the time you get to the season, you'll be familiar with the new system. But just having the old one and knowing everything from front to back, it pays. It pays dividends. It pays dividends where you can just go play. All you have to do is just read and react. Read and react. It's a great thing. Doesn't it feel good if you don't have to take your playbook home? Listen. Man, I got some sick of taking that playbook home my first two years, Ocho. Damn. I'm like, man, on the best part about it, I'm home by myself. It's kind of like when I went back to school to finish up my degree, Ocho, and I'm sitting in class, and I ain't much old. Ocho, I'm 20. I'm 22. Right. I just turned 22, so I graduated before my 23rd birthday. And I'm sitting up in class. I'm like, damn. I feel old. Even though I'm only 23, Ocho, but I think my mindset. I'm like, man, I'm in the NFL. I should be in here. But I was like, man, I am not a, I'm 20 hours short of a degree. Right. Man, I'm finna get this. I'm finna get this. Hey, Ocho, I'm finna get this degree. Right. Oh, hell yeah. But it's like just to study it, man. I just, and once I get it, I'm good. Clockwork, huh? I'm good. Yeah. But, you know, some people say it's like that. So, you know, some people, you know, it's refreshing to them. And you hear Sae Kwan Yu's, it's refreshing to learn a new system and to be, you know, all of a sudden, you know, it's just not second nature to you. Right. You think you have a bounce-back season? It depends if that offensive line stays healthy. It's all the field of Lane Johnson and Dickerson. Yeah, if everybody comes back healthy and they're fine, I think he can have a bounce-back season. In year nine, I don't see SACOR slowing down at all. Anytime soon, barring injury, if he can stay healthy and that offensive line stay healthy, hell, I can see them back exactly where they need to be, and that's competing for a championship. I think the thing is, is that everything is really contingent. But this offense, they made a concerted effort. Saquon Barkley, y'all are not going to beat us running this damn football. That's not going to happen. Right. So if you're going to beat us, your quarterback, he's going to have to beat us throwing the football. Saquon is not going to do what he did last year. It's not going to happen. I'm sorry, Eagles. and it definitely hurt that Lane got hurt. Dickerson was dealing with what he was dealing with all year long. I think he had surgery right before the season. The center had surgery, if I'm not mistaken, in the offseason. So now instead of rehabbing, he'll get to train. Hopefully Dickerson will be fully healthy. He'll get to train. Lane is coming off an injury, so he had that. I don't know if he had – did he have surgery for his lids, Frank? Because I know he had a lids, Frank. I don't know if he had surgery or he let it heal on his own. So hopefully, and when, look, he's just one of the best, he's one of the best offensive linemen in all of football, regardless of position. Right. And with that being said, if they go back to being dominant, it makes everybody's jobs on the offensive side of football easier. Easy. But we still, we got to see how this thing plays out in free agency because we're going to see, is A.J. still there or are they moving on? That's, we're going to know Ocho in the first week of free agency. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Hold on, hold on. When is free agency? April? March? Oh, it's coming. No, hell no. What? It's March. Oh, it's early. The draft is in. No, you got to buy. It's about two weeks. Oh, hey, it's going to get interesting. The draft is in April. Hey, it's going to get interesting. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And so we'll find, you know, we'll find out if Max Crosby, is he going or is he staying? Huh? He didn't have surgery. Okay. and so yeah yeah yeah I saw that Dickson is also I saw both of them you know I saw that post both of them um also uh when is when is the uh free agency start oh yeah yeah March 11th okay see Oh, Joe, we, hey. Hell, it's the 22nd. Boy, you two. Boy, you two. You basically, you basically. Wait, it's the 22nd. It's the 22nd already? 22nd of Feb. You know, it's the shortest month. Hey, hey, boy. 2026 going by fast. Can we ask some more days in February? Oh, nah, nah, nah. We got to show. Why not? They do with everything else. I mean, they done move spring forward and fall back. They done let that thing come so quick. I mean it used to be you fall back I mean now they springing forward Damn damn February It used to be I think it used to be in April Damn around Easter time Damn man Hey buddy you're going by fast We already going into March I just told my sister and I just had this conversation I said we about to be three months into 26 Already It feel like the ball dropped two weeks ago Damn And your boy about to be 40 About to be 48 again Okay okay Wait when's your birthday? June 26th Boy what we doing? You know we can have a nice little party Huh? Well ain't no telling We can have a little party or something I would tell you like my grandpa You say whatever the Lord see fit hey I like that I like that yeah whatever whatever the Lord see fit yes sir I'm not a big I'm not a big I'm not a big party at all Joe oh shit me neither I haven't had a party for my birthday yet I love I say a prayer at 1159 hold on somebody say hold on they say we spring forward in March I know damn well we ain't about to spring forward already. We just fell back two months ago. Hold on, what you mean? I'm confused. What that mean? You set the clocks up. Okay, so that mean we lose an hour of sleep? Yes. Okay. We just fell back two months ago. What the hell? It's crazy how that worked there, huh? Man, spring forward used to be out for Easter. Pretty soon they gonna have Easter. I mean, Easter used to be like the third weekend in April. They got Easter on the first weekend, the second weekend. Pretty soon they gonna have Easter. They're going to have St. Patty's Day and then a week later have Easter. Yeah. Damn. Man. But the Eagles, look, the one thing you can't count the Eagles out. Because the one thing that we know about Jeffrey Lourdes, that he gives Howie Roseman a lot of control. And Howie has done a great job of assembling this team. He knows when to bring pieces in. He knows when to get off pieces. This is the biggest night in podcasting. The countdown is on to our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards Live from South by Southwest March 16th we honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative talented creators in the industry. It's truly a who's who of the podcasting world. Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. And the winner of the iHeart Podcast Award is... See all the nominees now at iHeart.com slash podcast awards. Audible is a proud sponsor of the Audible Audio Pioneer Award. Explore the best selection of audiobooks, podcasts, and originals all in one easy app, Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. New Ravens offensive coordinator, Declan Doyle emphasized the importance of offseason workout. He didn't single out any player, but probably didn't need to. We would expect players to be here, and certainly it is voluntary, but if you want to say that you're going to win a championship, you want to say that you have championship standards, those are the goals, those are the expectations. Certainly, that's going to take work. That's going to take collaboration, and that's going to take the beginning of building a relationship with their coaches and other players, starting the next regime on the right foot. Ocho, you know who we're talking to. I think he's talking to everybody. Because I think the conversation with, what's his own name that looked like he part of the mall? Steve Bishotti. Yeah, Bishotti and Lamar had already had that conversation about him being there in the offseason and taking part in the offseason program. So we already know he's going to show up. Now, I think he wants to make sure everyone else is on board. Ocho, stop that. You know he's not talking to but one person. Everybody else goes, which guy hasn't been there seven of the last offseasons? Last seven of the late off seasons, which guy hadn't shown up? Timeout. Timeout. We talk about the D coordinator, right? No, we talk about the offensive coordinator. The offensive coordinator ain't calling out motherfucking Lamar Jackson. I can tell you that. Okay. I guarantee you that. I bet you. No, he didn't call. The new offensive coordinator is not calling out the team franchise leader. Ocho. After you already had a conversation with the owner. Which? The same one who was up for contract extension. He's not calling him out. Which guy? You don't want to start this. Just answer this. Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish. You are not going to be the new offensive coordinator and come in talking shit already and piss the man off. Now you're starting a relationship off on the wrong goddamn foot. He's not talking to Lamar. He's talking to everybody. Exactly. We're not going to do that. Okay, he's talking to everybody. Which guy has not been participating in the voluntary OTAs the last seven or eight years? I mean, Lamar has it, and I'm sure other people have it as well. Okay. Joe, what do you think about that, Joe? So because now you're saying everybody is just as important as Lamar. But go ahead, Joe, go ahead, finish off. Listen, I'm catching up. I'm picking up what y'all are putting down. You hear me? Man. I mean, I understand what you mean. You saying it's the offensive coordinator that's calling Lamar out. You know they talking about Lamar. What you do is that you talk. You know who he's talking to. There's a lot of times that they would talk. They're talking to the best player. But they're not talking. There you go. Indirectly, yeah. No. I guarantee you. I guarantee he not. I guarantee you. because all it's going to do is piss him off. Why is he going to piss him off, Ocho? What you mean why it's going to piss him off? He hasn't been there in the off season. You're not going to get no new job and to get out here talking trash like that. Hit my line if you need me there. I don't need you. Why I got to say I need you there? I got to tell you I need you there? Hold on. No, if he ain't been there the past seven, eight years. So who's he talking to? Thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you. That's what I needed you to say right there. He ain't talking to him. I guarantee you that. You think I did that joke? You think I did that joke? Hey, and you know what? I guarantee you're not talking to him. You see how I did that, Joe? Put a name on it. Y'all see how I did that right there? Hold on. Put a name on it. No, we ain't got to put a name on it. Put a name on it. Because what's going to happen is, what's going to happen is, is you're going to piss him off, and this new coordinator that's coming in trying to, what? What precedent is he trying to set? He said, hold on. Calling out, what precedent? Let me finish. What precedent are you setting calling out the starting fucking quarterback publicly? What are we doing? That's stupid. We would expect players to be here. And certainly it is voluntary. But if you want to say that you're going to win a championship, you say you want to have championship standards. And those are your goals, your expectations. Certainly that's going to take some work and it's going to take collaboration. So is the offensive coordinator collaborating with the defensive? Is he coordinating with the wide receivers, the offensive line? Who is he in calibration with, Ocho? You know I'm supposed to be a lawyer, right? I could have been one too. And I guarantee he ain't talking to him. Guarantee that. And I guarantee he don't show up. You want to get a new job. You want to be goddamn spoiled. He's trying to show off because you got a new job as officer coordinator. And you call not your starting quarterback, your starting franchise quarterback. I guarantee he won't show up just to show you. You don't do nothing like that coming in as a new coach. You don't do that. You don't call. It's dumb. It's stupid. It's dumb and it's stupid. Why would you piss off your quarterback with a message like that? What sense does that make? What you missing the point. Let me ask you this. There is no point. If you want Lamar to show up, you text Lamar. I want you, if this is what you're trying to do, if this is what you're trying to do. Let me finish. Everything he just said publicly, he could have said that to Lamar if you want Lamar to show up. What are you proving saying it publicly? What are you doing? Who's it going to piss off? All I remember. Tell me. Who's it going to piss off? All I remember is a guy saying he wanted to win a championship more than anything, but I need to call you and ask you to show up. Interesting. So you go out publicly and you get a new job and you call out the franchise quarterback. That's going to work out real fucking well. Okay. Come on, man. I'm trying to figure out. Hold on. I'm trying to figure out. Let's go back and see what quarterback has won a championship that didn't participate in OTAs. All those years except the last three years of Tom. So you think calling out Lamont Jackson is going to work? Let me finish my point. Let me finish my point. So you think calling out your franchise quarterback is going to get you to the championship? Yeah, that's real smart. Good job. Good job, offensive coordinator. Let's call out the franchise quarterback. Let me ask you a question. Do you think Sam Darnold participated in OTAs last year? Yeah. Do you think Drake May participated in OTAs last year? tell me the quarterback that you don't think participated in OTAs Ocho what does that have to do with what we're talking about so you so you know so in other words you just hold on again I'm I'm gonna say it one more time because somebody it seems to be going in one ear and out the other so calling out your franchise quarterback is the way to go about doing things when you wanted to show up to OTA. Is that what you're saying? All the man say it is, he didn't single out nobody. And you said he's talking to Lamar Jackson, the person that hadn't showed up. So is that the way to go about doing it? Calling out your franchise quarterback publicly. How is that supposed to help anything? Outside of just pissing him off. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I tell you what, he's going to be more pissed if he go another year and don't get to the Super Bowl. the criticism is going to grow louder and louder and louder and louder okay I got a question he shows up to OTAs and they'll go to the Super Bowl then what? Ocho we had this conversation then what? this is a new system this is a new system he's been in that system before, Ocho. Come on, what is it that you don't understand, Ocho? You don't call out your fucking franchise quarterback. You said he wasn't talking to him. You said you weren't talking to him. No matter what. You don't do it. You don't do it. You're going to piss him off. Hold on. Hold on. You know that. Did Belichick call out Brady? You're going to piss your brother out. Did Belichick call out Brady? you talk about they won six Super Bowls five Super Bowls and he called out Tom Brady who he won six Super Bowls with but you mean to tell me Lamar Jackson can't get called out so you really compare Lamar Jackson to Tom Brady that's what I'm asking you that's the point let me finish the new officer coordinator who I don't even effing know calls out the franchise quarterback and you're comparing that to what Tom Brady and Bill Belichick did? Are you serious? I'm asking you. Are you serious? A guy that won six Super Bowls got called out, but a guy that hadn't been to the Super Bowl, he can't get he's above reproach. You know what? Don't worry about it. Okay. I say we what we're not going to do is we're not going to have common sense here. Because call the rule number one. Listen, listen to me. Call the rule number one. You never chastise your quarterback. That is the only coach, the only coach that has ever called out. But you say you don't chastise your quarterback. Let me finish. He can do that. Why? They had that relationship. What relationship did they have? They had that relationship. Let me finish. They had the relationship to set the tone for everybody else to let everybody else know. Thank you. It's an even playing field here. Thank you. That's how you set the tone. That's how you set. Thank you, Ocho. You see, Joe, what I do? Wait. You see how I want you walking into a trap? You set the tone. What's trap? They've won four or five Super Bowls. They haven't. What are we talking about? Let me ask you a question. I'm trying to compare two. Let me ask you a question. It's not the same. So let me ask you a question. So do you think Coach Belichick called Tom Brady out before or after he won a Super Bowl? They had already won two. No, they did not. Stop it, Ocho. They had won four. It was 2011. What are you talking about? I was told, I was told that he called him out from the beginning. So Tom Brady has never been above reproach. Go ask the other guys that played on the team. Why are we talking about the Patriots? We're talking about the Baltimore Ravens. And a new officer coordinator calling out his franchise quarterback publicly. You said is that that's how you set the tone. Coach Belichick was setting the tone. But now you don't want this coach to set a tone. what Tony you said and pissed off your quarterback? Why are you pissing him off? He just asked if you want to win you got standards, you got to do things a certain way You can text me that If you're talking to him what sense are you making? What are you trying to prove saying it publicly? If you want Lamar there you text Lamar and tell him I would like you here for the All-Season because we have a new game plan Joe, your coaches ever call you and say they wanted you to be somewhere Joe? Or you just did the right thing because you knew it was important? Hold on. Now you're saying. You had no turn to talk. Let Joe talk. Now you're saying. Let Joe talk. You ain't going to let Joe talk? No. It's voluntary. You ain't going to let Joe talk? So now it's the right thing. Now it's the right thing. So it's being. It's voluntary. He doesn't want to be there. Hey, guess what else is voluntary? Being great. What? That's voluntary, isn't it, Joe? He is great. There ain't no. He is great. What are you saying? Go ahead, Joe. What were you saying, Joe? So now he's not great? Hold on. So Lamar's not great? Are you saying Lamar's not great? You go. You not going to let Joe talk. So Lamar's not great? You not going to let Joe talk. So Lamar's not great. The two-time MVP's not great? Joe, you not going to let the man talk, Ocho. Go ahead. Go ahead, Joe. Yeah, yeah. Hey, look, anytime you have something volunteer and you show up, obviously, you know, coaches appreciate that. But not only that, like, if he been doing the same thing over the past seven, eight years, Ojo, I think coach is trying to send a message, bro. Like in order for us to reach something that we've never had before, obviously we got to do something we've never done or hadn't been doing. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. And you know what? I hope for the coach's sake, since he's setting the goddamn tone in goddamn in February, I hope they end up in, what a goddamn Super Bowl next year, LA? I hope the Ravens in goddamn LA next year. Since he want to come out and be big badass instead of just texting him, I would like you to be here for the all-season program. I would have thought that, you know, because it reported now I don know if it true that Lamar was a part of the hiring process with the head coach Now I don know if he a part of the hiring process with the offensive coordinator But normally, normally, normally, normally, when you have a new staff, even though it's voluntary, you show up because of the importance of it. It's a new system, both offensively and defensively. And your best player, he sets the tone for everyone. else. If your best player is there, everybody else will feel obligated and come and you get a head start on things. Trying to develop that chemistry and continuity early. Because it's a new system. I've been through this with Wade Phillips. I've been through it with Mike came there. And then when I went to Baltimore, it was a new system. So I went for the OTAs, even though I didn't do a whole lot. But I thought it was important for my presence to be there. Yeah. Yeah. Ocho, you ain't never had to switch systems like that? I'll see, yeah. Yeah, but I mean, I was always the off-season program. Yeah. Yeah. Dang, Ocho, man, you got a little sandwich, man. God dang. Man, you got any coaches coming here talking all that shit, man. Green-ass, nigga, man. Who you supposed to be? Nigga, you trying to prove something, trying to show off like you coming in, like you running something. Man, just text me. Green-ed, peanut-headed-ed coach, man. Trying to show off. He trying to show off, man. That man ain't trying to show off. Ocho, stall him out, man. He ain't trying to show off, man. All that's unnecessary. Man, text me. You want to see me. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Hey, OJ, you about to lose your voice for what? Hey, come on, Unc. Hold on, hold on, hold on. No, no, no, you know, Unc, I like when we get into it like this. We got into it like this in a long time. If the chat be getting upset when they don't know, man, this man be calling me, talking about Unc, I want to argue tonight. For what? He ain't got to argue. This man text me, talking about Unc, I want to argue tonight. I was like, we ain't got no time to argue about. I'm just saying, as a player, as a player, it's just unnecessary. You're a new coach, you're coming in. I understand you want to set the tone. You want to establish yourself as an offensive coordinator, but there's no need to say what you said publicly. That conversation is something that's to be had with Lamar Jackson. When you say something like that to the player that hasn't been there seven of the last eight years, I mean, why are you even calling me out? You already know how players are. If it's any player, and you hear your coach say that, well, God damn, you could have just, you could have hit my line. You know? And so, like, I mean, I just think it's green. No disrespect to coach, man. Hey, you done called a man peanut. You don't talk about you don't got no disrespect. You done called a man old peanut head. I'm not really talking to him. I'm just referencing his act and what he said publicly. That's all. I'm sorry. I apologize, Chad. I'm sorry. What you apologizing for? Hey, you got me worked up, Joe. Joe, I don't never get like this, Joe. I know, man. Got my man blood pressure up high and everything. I'm sweating, man. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Hey, remember the last time me and Uncle was like this, Joe? We were talking about boots and boots and... Boo. Remember, we were talking about Boots. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Haney. Haney. He would tell me to pick between one and the other. Boy, Joe. Boots and Haney? No, Boots and Terrence Crawford. He was telling me, man, you got to pick one or the other. No, I don't. I ain't got to pick either one. Hey, Boots, Cole. I like Boots, Ocho. Hey, Joe, boy, we were going at it, boy. Look. And that was a long time ago. That he get passionate about. He just glossed over. But once I see what I know will get it, go. What do you say? Let me finish my point. Okay, go ahead. I said, well, damn, I thought you were done. This is the biggest night in podcasting. The countdown is on to our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards. Live from South by Southwest, March 16th, we'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative, talented creators in the industry. It's truly a who's who of the podcasting world. creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. And the winner of the iHeart Podcast Award is... See all the nominees now at iHeart.com slash podcast awards. Audible is a proud sponsor of the Audible Audio Pioneer Award. Explore the best selection of audiobooks, podcasts, and originals all in one easy app, Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. you got another point to make my bad my bad okay I'm sorry I'm sorry nah I just think I just think the thing is is that if if what was reported is true that the kind of the relationship with Monk and Lamar had kind of deteriorated I think he's going to look at this as a breath of fresh air. Give him an opportunity to get there because no matter what you think, especially when you're dealing with Lamar, he's the table setter. He's the guy that everybody's looking to and when he's there, all is right in the world in Baltimore. In Raven country, Raven's flock, all is right when your franchise quarterback is there. Like, okay, we're going to be all right. We're going to be all right. Hey, Joe. What's up? When Lamar Jackson won those two MVPs, he wasn't there in the offseason. Well, the first one he was, he was there. Hey, ain't he up? Is he up? Is he up for? Yes. Oh, ain't nobody no being up. He's getting his contract done this offseason. They redoing it. Yes, for sure. They're right when he's doing it. His cap number too high. You got to lower that cap number, and you got to take care of it. because he's outperformed the contract that he signed. And normally with quarterbacks, when you outperform the contract, he's well on his way to being the best player. Right now, I still think that's right. But I think when it's... Hey, Joe, you heard that? You heard what I just said? What's that? He's the best player. He outperformed the last... You know what? He outperformed his contract. You know, he wasn't in the offseason program last year either. And guess what he wasn't in the offseason? He wasn't in the Super Bowl either. What? Hey, neither were the Broncos. Hey, I'm just saying. I know. Hey, I'm just saying. You know this and I know this. Quarterbacks, when it's matter, Super Bowl matters. Yeah, you know, you can say, well, he did this, he did that. Super Bowls matter. Lamar Jackson gets a Super Bowl? Oh, it's a wrap. That monkey off his back. He can play the rest of his career in cruise control. He gets to the Super Bowl, he might win another two MVPs. Yeah. Because now, because there is, because he wanted, oh man, you ever wanted something so bad, Joe? You want that big, Ocho, you know you want this thing so bad. Yeah. And you're so close. and it seems like as the time goes back, you know, having a conversation with John, he's like, man, he went to the last Super Bowl in 89 and then we didn't go back. He's like, damn. Because you think about it, he went to three in his first six years. First seven years, he goes to three Super Bowls. He didn't win them. And then there was a stretch, so we don't go in 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95. So that's six years. He had never gone that long without reaching the Super Bowl. So as time starts, you're like, damn. Danny Marino goes in the second year, Ocho. He plays 16 years. So for the next 14 years, he never goes back. And then you're like, damn, am I ever going to get this opportunity again? He just needs one. He gets one? I feel if he gets one, he'll win two more MVPs. Because now he really gets to play three. he really gets to play loose. I think, you know, look, and he's a phenomenal talent, but when you get those early, I mean, look at Brady. Brady played with house money. Mahomes played with house money. You get those early. What? How you, what you gonna say? Mahomes got three in his first nine years. First eight years as a starter. He's gone to five. Brady, in his first five years, he had three Super Bowls, two MVPs. I'm free. Y'all can't tell me nothing. I just think the thing is that I just want him to get there. I just want him to get to it. I want to see Lamar Jackson on the biggest stage. For the most part, we've always seen our greatest quarterbacks be it Elway, Marino, Kelly, Favre, Rodgers, Brady, Montana, Manning. We've seen our best. On that biggest stage. Now, they didn't always win, Ocho. But we've seen them on that stage. We got to see Lamar on that stage. Just one time. Just where, hey, like Luther Vandross say, if only for one night. For one night. If only for one night. I got to see that man on the stage. I got to see him. I would love to see. Hey, if I don't see him in L.A., hell, I go see him in Atlanta. I might have to go see him in Atlanta. Yeah. He's special. He's special. I want to see him in that big game too, Uncle Ocho. I want to see him show up and show out. I mean, think about it, Ocho. We done seen Purdy in the Super Bowl. I mean, we've seen some quarterbacks not nearly as talented as Lamar. He too talented not to get there at least once. I don't know what's going to happen but I want to see him get there and then I'll say hey whatever happens after that he was phenomenal he didn't have his best stuff blah blah blah whatever the case may be but I just need to see him one time in the big dance I see him in the big dance I say oh Joe man hey he got there it didn't go his way but oh well damn that man I want to see the damn cow I don't know hey hey Joe I'm going to be honest with you. It's a good chance the Cowboys can be there, boy. You know how? Yeah. If you play Madden. Come on. Come on, Ocho. See how you going. I'm going to tell you. See how you going. I ain't said nothing about your Bengals. I ain't even got on you. You see how you at? Don't get on us. Why you going to get on us? I'm just saying, if you want to see the Cowboys in the Super Bowl, I mean, just play Madden. There you go. You see what I'm saying? Okay. Okay. No disrespect? Yeah, all disrespect. Yeah. I think it's Declan. Declan. Deaclan? What is it, Chad? What are you talking about? Doyle. Declan. Declan Doyle. Declan Doyle. so I guess hold on when is the March well it's got to be free agency so it's got to be April the first one minicamp OTA is in April because you know with a new system you get three get three okay three minicamps okay okay okay with a new what did you say Ash do we know when it is well the offseason program started in April or is it March damn they start early yeah yeah hey when in draft in May last week in April when is it Ash last week in April What a draft at is y'all. Okay. Pittsburgh. So. But you, did you have a workout bonus incentive, workout bonuses in your contract, Ocho? Yeah. What was that? So what'd you have to do, Ocho? make 90% of the workout yeah 13 weeks I mean I would make it all up anyway I mean you know honestly if I didn't have that incentive I still would have been I would have been there anyway to work out with Carson you know why I didn't come because they know I like to work out see if they know you like to do something guess what they don incentivize it people that they don know like to work out they put they put a quarter of a million in their contract They want to give me a day You're good, huh? Oh, no. Yeah, it was a nice- Yeah, I know. I know. I had teammates that had $150,000, $250,000, $500,000. But, Joe- Yeah, mine was $500,000. Man, we can't give him that. He loved to work out. So we just give him away money. right that was fun but you know Mike and Mike told him Mike says I don't want I don't want Shannon here Shannon cannot get in shape 84 cannot get in shape doing our thing like he can get in shape doing his own but I don't trust y'all like I trust him right so I was hey I was out of there hey y'all let me know when the camps I come to that camp you know we had a a three day camp and then we have, you know, you have a three-day camp, mini-camp, Ocho, and then you have a week mini-camp. So you come in, you get, what, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, you up out of there Saturday afternoon or whenever you leave. And then you have that week, you come in on a Monday, and, you know, if everything go good, they'll let you off Thursday at noon. Yeah. Boom. Ocho, it's with a very, very sad heart that I bring this news to you. Vikings wide receiver Rondell Moore has died at the age of 25. According to the New Albany Police Chief today, Todd Bailey said, Rondell Moore was found deceased with a self-inflicted gunshot wound in his garage on his property in New Albany, Indiana. An investigation is underway. Rondell Moore dead of a self-inflicted, what is being reported as a self-inflicted gunshot wound at the age of 25. Man, my condolences to the Moore family, man. Man, that's sad. It is so sad. 25 years of age. It's been a very difficult... The NFL Peer Players Association is devastated by the sudden and tragic passing of Rondell Moore. The immense loss is felt deeply across our union, and we value his service as a player rep. Our condolences to the family are with Rondell's family, teammate and loved ones during this incredible difficult time. In moments like this we are reminded of how much our players carry on and off the field. To our members, please know that the support is always within reach. Check on your teammates and prioritize your mental health. If you or someone you know is struggling, we encourage you to take advantage of many confidential resources available to you through the NFLPA. Damn. You don't know. sometimes what a person is going through. And unless you've been through something, I'm talking about really been through something, you have no earthly idea, none. Everybody's all this, all that, you don't know. I promise you, you don't know. You have no earthly, earthly idea. I can't even begin to fathom the burden that that young man was carrying. And and my heart breaks for his family, his friends, his loved ones, anyone that knew Rondell more, that cared about Rondell more. My heart breaks. 25 25 Young uncle Life just starting bro And he did not He thought this was his only way This is the only way that that pain would go away Damn something so hard, so heavy that someone would take their own life, reportedly. You don't know how bad pain is because you know a lot of times Ocho well I wouldn't do this I wouldn't do that everybody will say what they would or wouldn't do but until you in that situation you never know you don't know what you'll do people never know everybody always says that they do that's what I would have did I would have did this I would have did X Y and Z no you wouldn't bro unless you walked a mile in that man's shoes or that woman's shoes you have no earthly idea you haven't and as I sit here and ponder when I got the news tonight that this young man was no longer here, I'm like, what was so bad that he thought this was the only way? Mmm. Boy, boy, boy. You don't know. You don't know. and when you think you've gone through something you can't go on and you feel that's your only alternative because a lot of times you don't know i mean because a lot of times don't show you call hey man how you doing man i'm good man you know no are you good are you really good because sometimes you know you just want to get off the phone you don't want to be bothered right right you don't want people in your business. Mm-hmm. And you just like try to make the conversation but I I'm glad I have the people that I have in my life. I'll say that. Yeah. Everybody doesn't have a brother and a sister like I have. And everybody don't have best friends like I have. But boy, Rondell Moore family, I am so, so sorry. And I know words, there's nothing I can say. There's no amount of heartfelt speeches. I know absolutely nothing can ease this pain that you're going through. but what I can say is that I hope is that when you fall on your knees and you ask the man above to give you strength to give you courage and to give you understanding in your most trying time and hopefully as time passes you will have a better understanding. But it's not going to be easy. You're never going to forget this moment. My heartbreak for his family. 25. 25. You think back and you think about what you were doing at 25, Ocho. You was having the time of your life in the NFL. Yeah. You had reached the culmination. Everything that you dreamed about, dreamt about when you was in Liberty City and you and your boys, y'all running around, going to the pool and doing whatever you were doing. Like, man, I'm going to be playing on Sundays one day. And there it is, you're doing it. I guarantee you when he was a kid, he dreamt of playing in the NFL. My brother always says, a dream is a gift that you give to yourself. Mm-hmm. and your dreams should shock you if your dream don't shock you it's not big enough he dreamt of playing in the nfl he didn't dream of having seasoned in the injuries in 24 and 25 but he dreamt of playing in the nfl but something came along and interfered with that it's being reported rondell moore unfortunately passed away at the age of 25. hollywood brown a former teammate of rondell moore in arizona said rondell reached out to him just a few hours before he died you wasn't alone bro i told you i know how you feel bro ain't no way, brother. You just messaged me a few hours ago. After missing the entire 2024 season with a knee injury, he suffered another season in the ACL tear during Minnesota Vikings' first preseason game, Jamal Adams tweeted. I'm not jumping to conclusions, but let me say this. Fans and media be quick to label player injury prone. We don't choose to get hurt, Sometimes it just happens. Y'all don't see the rehab, the pain, the mental drain it causes. The process can make you lose yourself. This issue is real. No matter how much support you get, you still got to fight that battle alone. Prayers up for Rondell Moore and his family. He was a baller, no question. You do. And see, that's the thing, Ocho. All the support. but what happens when the phone hangs up you by yourself alone in your thoughts so when the phone calls when they hang up and then everybody go home I'm right back to square one I'm alone in my own thoughts thinking man is this a dream is this really my life is this really happening again you gotta take the good with the bad Ocho and sometimes it's easy to question the bad but not one time did you ever question God why you bless me so much why you let me make it to the NFL why you let me get all this money why you let me have beautiful healthy kids sometimes we only call on him when things go bad but it's when the things are at the best that's when he's carrying you also but we just don't see it Rondell Moore to all his family friends and loved one again the Nightcap family Ocho and I and everybody here associated with Nightcap send us our heartfelt thoughts and prayers this is the biggest night in podcasting the countdown is on to our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards. 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