Marcus In The Morning Second Date Update
Marcus In The Morning Second Date Update

Everything Was Perfect Until Holden Sent Sabine This Text…

6 min
•Apr 1, 2026about 2 months ago
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Summary

A second date update segment where caller Holden reveals he used a fake first name (Bryce) on his date with Sabine as a safety precaution after a past incident. Sabine discovers the deception at the end of the date and subsequently ghosts him, citing trust concerns about dating someone willing to lie from the start.

Insights
  • Safety concerns differ between genders: men prioritize physical safety from stalking, while women prioritize transparency for their own safety protocols
  • Deception at the beginning of dating, even with good intentions, creates irreparable trust damage that outweighs explanations
  • Past trauma can lead to behaviors that inadvertently harm new relationships and undermine genuine connection attempts
  • Disclosure timing matters: revealing a lie at the end of a date is too late to be perceived as honesty rather than deception
Trends
Online dating safety concerns driving unconventional protective behaviors among usersGender-based differences in how safety is conceptualized and communicated in dating contextsTrust as a foundational requirement that cannot be rebuilt once compromised in early dating stagesIncreasing awareness of how past relationship trauma influences current dating practices
Companies
Hinge
Dating app platform where Holden and Sabine met before their date
People
Marcus
Host of Marcus In The Morning who facilitates the second date update segment and calls Sabine
Holden (Bryce)
Caller seeking advice after being ghosted by Sabine due to using a fake first name on their date
Sabine
Woman who went on a date with Holden and discovered he used a fake name, leading to ghosting
Quotes
"His name is not Holden. His name is Bryce. He apparently gives women who he meets for dates a fake first name as a test or some kind of protection for himself."
Sabine
"I had a bad experience I met someone online and then she ended up showing up at my apartment unannounced and that was just really weird to me so then ever since then I've just used a different first name."
Bryce (Holden)
"As a woman I have to think about my safety and I was on a date with someone who was not even telling me his real name."
Sabine
"I stop the interrelationship with a man who is so very comfortable just lying right from the jump. What else could he possibly be lying about?"
Marcus
Full Transcript
It's Marcus in the morning and it's back y'all second date update. Let's just bring Holden on right now Get this thing rolling Holden, how are you either? Hey, I'm good. I'm good. I'm here. Hey, man. I want to help you out with this date I understand you've been ghosted The info that I have is that her name is Sabine and that you guys met on hinge But let's roll through the date because sometimes I can glean details and maybe we can figure out why she disappeared on you So what did you guys end up doing? Yeah, so we went out to dinner We had you know good conversation and Lots of laughs. I felt like we had enough in common that you know, this could go somewhere Okay, you know, what did you talk about? We talked about you know, we've I've liked music. We love movies We both like hiking we both like going outside Okay, and you said did you come to the city? Did I come into the city? Yeah, okay, and it went fine anything crazy happened No, I mean we We like we left the restaurant and we talked outside for a while and it wasn't just like a hug and goodbye kind of thing It was like we wanted to stay around each other and you know, I told her Goodbye and I kissed her and it was great. You know I'll ask you the same question. I asked the gentleman yesterday. Did she kiss you back? Yeah, yeah, no, okay. Yeah. No, it was definitely a full on we both were into it You know a great kiss and then she asked me to text her when I got home Which I felt really like great about because that's like a good sign. Yeah, okay so, you know, I did I did I texted her and you know, she texted me back and That was great, but then like the next day she kind of got cold and the playfulness was gone You know that flirtatious that funness was gone and she kind of just Kept their distance, you know, okay. Well, what I'll do is I'll call her We'll have you kind of on standby listening in so just mute your phone and we'll see if we can't get some answers I'd love to get you a second Dave. All right, dude. Go ahead and mute your phone. Let's give her a shout I I'm looking for Sabine, please This is Sabine. Hi Sabine. It's Marcus calling from star one one three. Good morning Good morning Marcus. Hi. Do you listen in the morning? Tell me you listen to me listen in the morning I listen in the morning. I love that about you. Hey, you want to be on second date update? Yeah, I Guess I'm not terrible with the surprise spoken like a woman who has accepted her fate. I appreciate it So I'm assuming that Holden is listening. He is Holden. Are you there? Yeah, I'm here. Okay. Hello everyone Hi, so hi Sabine Sabine. What did something happen? How was the day for you was a great date it was Everything I could want in a date. We had great conversation. We had a good meal, right? There was a good kiss Yeah, and then right at the end right as I am getting in my car Holden Let me know that His name is not Holden His name is Bryce. I'm sorry what? He apparently gives women who he meets for dates a fake first name as a Test or some kind of protection for himself But yes, so we went through I had I had a date with Holden and then I found out that Holden is Bryce His real name is Bryce his real name is Bryce and Did he tell me anything true? the whole night was he Just making up everything we talked about Sure, it was so weird. Okay. Did you say something? Honestly at the moment I couldn't even react. I just kind of Went along and left and then I went home and I sat there and I thought about it It was it was too much Okay, hold them to you Bryce Bryce should I call you Bryce? Yeah, what's happening? All right. Well, I don't think there's anything weird or shady about using a different name So like a couple years back. I had a bad experience I met someone online and then she ended up showing up at my apartment unannounced and That was just really weird to me so then ever since then I've just used a different first name and Like that's for me to until I feel comfortable with the person and then I so is your whole background a lie, too Or what no no everything else I said on the date, you know everything about my job, you know everything about my family Everything anything else that I was talking about is totally real information. It's just the first name Just the first name is the only thing I changed and I made sure to tell her like before the night was over Because I wanted to be honest. Okay to being how does this sit with you? I mean I get wanting safety and being cautious but as a Woman I have to think about my safety and I was on a date with someone who was not even telling me his real name No, it's okay, so I go on a date. I tell my friends. I'm going on a date with so-and-so I didn't even have his real name so that hold the safety thing. No, absolutely not. Okay, just thinking about it now It's just no that absolutely not I just I I can't believe that she doesn't understand Listen, I stop the interrelationship with a man who is so very comfortable just lying right from the jump I what else what else could he possibly be lying about? No second date then? No, all right, hang on I gotta be honest I don't know where I'm at with this like my guys definitely got some trauma But lying from the jump again like she said is not okay Any thoughts let me know second date update