PMS 2.0 1548 - Tyrese Haliburton, Matthew Tkachuk, Jeff Passan, Peter Schrager, Ben Stiller

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode the underdog on this what the hell he Thursday May 7, 2026 this sports program begins now. Sports are happening holy hell that was fantastic. I think that's an indicator of how today is going to go we have a guest host alongside of us here in the Thunder down on this glorious what the Halley Thursday and it couldn't be a better time for this man to be joining us because obviously we're in the middle of some hot cooking in the NBA playoffs the next continue to do what the next are going to do I guess that's an unstoppable force over there in New York and then the spurs answer and when he says hold on everybody talking about Ant Man perks that if we lose game to we're going to get swept they come back and beat the hell out of the timber wagons in the NBA playoffs is only heating up in just one year ago the man that we were riding alongside of in the NBA playoffs all the way to the finals game 7. In which he was going to score 50 to 60 points. Become an NBA champion and stamp his name in the history of holy hell what the Halley is that guy on some real clutch it ladies and gentlemen Indiana Pacer legend Iowa State Cyclone. The re's Albert. I'm the only one to clap the truth not true okay they like chanted they were love as talks of table at Boston Connor and one half of the hammer dad Cowboys toxic tone what you got going on there pal what I don't have a mass but I don't know if he's contagious or not so unbelievable. All right let's address it. Let's address it immediately okay we we have seen a mass world before and I'm not liking what I'm hearing okay and I hunt. Certainly a hunted in on that one but you your current recovery from the Achilles tear in game 7 of the NBA finals last year obviously gets hit with quite a speed bump if you will called shingles can we open up a little bit about more about that are you still currently in the middle of that how is your rehab did the shingles slow down the rehab like how do you kind of piece it all together now in your story of recovery. Yeah I was starting to play 5 on 5 and then got shingles that kind of stop things you know for like 3 weeks and so that kind of hold the things for a little bit but I'm getting back there now just playing 5 on 5 again is the summer is going on and we got a little team in the camp here in a couple weeks and I'll be full go for that so it sucks for a little bit but I'm good now how do you feel playing 5 on 5 do you feel like yourself is there like a mental hurdles you have to get over because like when I had a knee surgery or something especially in my kicking me which is vastly different than your life because you got to run I just got to kick every once in a while mentally I didn't want to blow my ship back out for like the first like month and there was a little bit of pain coming back because you're working things back into it. My biggest issue was like the fear of tearing it again or breaking it again you have that mental block that's taking place and what Adam's doing does that help everything. Yeah for sure seeing him and the John demerry was having a lot of success you know for the end of the year as well. No I don't really think about it I think the biggest thing is like defensively I could tell like I'm a step behind I'm not a great defender already you know but I'm playing against in terms of the game and I'm like why is this guy kind of find me a little bit here. So it's just the process of like planting and turning those things but offensively when I'm in control of my movement. I feel great defensively we're reacting others that's where it's going to get better as time goes on. Okay we got nothing but time obviously these NBA playoffs are still happening the Pacers actually in an OK position to potentially get another legend to come join us here in Indiana this season has not gone anywhere near as well as last season went did we find ourselves maybe not paying attention as much to the NBA this year because you weren't playing. No no no we wouldn't do that never that is not how this show operates but on that note we enjoyed the hell out of it last year and we're finding these storylines of this year that are fantastic as well whenever you watch what happened down in San Antonio with response to what Ant-Man did and when be I think the big thing about when he is he's a savage right we need to be looking at him as a guy who loses in a playoffs at home is going to come back pissed off on the other side like what do you think is kind of misconstrued about the big tall man from France it's unbelievable. Well I think San Antonio being you know the higher seed a team that when you lose a game like game one you expect him to come back and respond and respond is what they did last night that didn't surprise me at all you look at like game one Minnesota made a lot of tough shots a lot of tough shots are going in the game to you know like a guy like Wemby the paint is kind of like not really a thing when Wemby's on the floor is kind of like you go in there expect to probably your shop lock so like you got to make jumpers to beat San Antonio to high level and Minnesota didn't do that last night so that's why the score looked like the way it did the Spurs have not lost consecutive games since January 11th crazy January 13th improved to 17 and 5 following a loss the best record in the NBA this season seemingly they're going to figure it out if they do Minnesota comes out of nowhere in this particular series because I'm supposed to be out 9 day recovery time on a bone bruise he's an absolute legend which made me believe that he's going to be able to keep it close and cover but it felt like we all want to believe in Wemby this is what I said yesterday this was said yesterday. Tyrese. Can we see and taken out the fourth quarter to rest. No Spurs up. Oh well yeah. There are a ton does this become one of those could 20 yeah. In my mind I just saw that it bounced back game for the Spurs I think I don't love that I saw that but everything tells me about Wemby is he would not let that that they're going to go crazy. I think OK so then I talk myself out of it because of Ant-Man I need to just believe in Wemby it sounds like is what you're saying because you're one of the best point guards in the game. Whatever you call yourself the best we could say you're the best point guard in the game and have an argument with everybody at this stage even how young you are and everything you've already done. We can sell you saying like the paint is just a different thing whenever Wemby's around he has actually changed the game but mentally also dog right we need it we need to like his leadership side you know him that well. I don't really know Wemby that well but obviously what he's done with that team and what they're doing as a group has been special all year like it's not a surprise to see what they're doing. Game 3 is going to be a big game though. I'm excited for game 3 well as a Saint-Tonio goes in there takes one kind of changes the series but you're Minnesota you leave game 2 you feel great. You got blown on game 2 but it's kind of like we stole one in the playoffs your job is just to go steal one when you're on the road so they did their job. Tell me about the Nixon 6ers right now because this is the next are good. They're a little bit of a wagon right now and obviously Madison Square Garden the stars going to be. He's going to be in the building. Yeah, what always he's right is going to be in there. Yeah, you know that Mike Greenberg's and you said what side and if you saw that green he had his eyes on you hosted get up you're watching get up in the morning that's Mike Greenberg from Mike and Mike I'm aware he's going to be court side. If you shall make going to always out Kylie's going to be there. Ben Stiller is going to be there sometimes yeah depending on what's going on. Jay Z was there last night as he was a he owns the team. Glasses. I mean you're talking about the stars are going to be out and it feels like when Jaylin Brunson gets rolling he's kind of unstoppable and you obviously have incredible experience with Madison Square Garden Jim Ursay dropping that one in from the heavens. I do believe for you after you got a chance to do the entirety of it. But what is it about Madison Square Garden obviously you've played well, but it feels like it's become a wagon for them and this next team at feels like have a real chance to win it all this year and their next fans believe it for sure. Well, I mean I feel like Madison Square Garden is probably if not number. It's probably number one spot the most special place in the NBA because everybody's excited. A game. Of course right of course. But everybody's excited to play there. And yeah last night's game was interesting. It was pretty close the whole night obviously going into the game Philly not having Joe well they play a little bit faster the style of play kind of changes a little bit makes the game a little closer but yeah, New York looks good right now. Is there a rivalry with New York you hate those guys do I hate I don't hate anybody. Really nobody. You know, hey, wow, not even bad people. Wow. Wow. We start listening off and we'll see if you hate him or not. Interesting. We don't need to do that. But I don't think I don't think I hate I don't think I hate the next no. Not a big fan. I almost just rattled off like the top 5 worse humans in history. Oh yeah. I just decided I didn't want to see this is growth. That is you take us back one year. 20 minute run right now so many bad maybe 2 years 3 years of the worst humans of all time just to make sure that we're talking to a person we know because we want to make sure that we understand that you would you hate the same people we as a society. I'm proud of you for that but thank you. I'm proud of you to say that you don't hate anybody. Yeah, joining us now is Amanda. We don't hate it all. No, we love this. Oh, yeah, 13 year NBA that former 3.0 in contest is before his time. Trump cause the knuckleheads podcast also ESPN analysts ladies and gentlemen Q rich. Yeah, you're a huge. How you doing kill was good. I'm good. I'm good fellow for 7. Just you know having a great time. How do you feel about Tyrese lined all the same doesn't hate anybody don't you think most professional athletes have to have a level of hatred for their opponents even though you guys are in the Dapop with swap jersey era don't you think there has to be a little pettiness and hatred deep down in there Q rich. I wouldn't go as far as saying hatred I would say dislike I would prefer to say some people I don't really hate guys but I'm not a big person already think I hate anybody. Well, maybe one or 2 people but I do dislike some some things and what a special when I play it I just like some teams and some players specifically so yes. Okay, I like that and you're certainly one or 2 p 10 feet there's people you got to be there's just saying they hate you to for sure that that's a 2 way street that's a beautiful thing. Let's talk about love let's talk about love love when these response love what happened down there in San Antonio we're just chatting about a Tyrese talks about how the pain is the pain anymore and obviously when be his records since January 11 January 13th coming off a loss in tire Santana's first team that was not even talking about champagne to the cell just doing and one Harlem Globetrotter bullshit in the middle of games here. We're doing a little pump that need to see this in your game maybe need to start that was that was in saying that was that catching the ball in the air was insane Tyrese please tell them how insane that truly was that you are going up to try but when you guys go try I'm like hooked up stuff. Okay so what I actually literally tweeted as soon as I thought I said the cell that was crazy like that was crazy that he just dropped it like it was a regular job but that is not easy to do it all that's a whole new meaning to know that. Yeah, so I saw a lot of people utilizing the term no dip no dip no dip because when I dip you dip we did both that when you shoot. The ball when you catch the ball right. Okay, you catch it what do you naturally do you bring it down before you go up right. Yeah, but no dip means wherever you catch it you just shoot it from so like somebody throws a high. Exactly. Shoot you never got the chance to bring it up and load it up say there's some people that are no dip shooters well like the best shooters like it's like no dip is like get it off quicker so like if a guy's yeah quick you thought I just get it off. Yeah, right I could definitely no dip. But it's not like a full time style of shooting. No, no, no need to but it's like it's becoming more of a thing with the shooters now we're like okay closeouts coming I got to get this off quick bad pass. I don't have time to bring it down reload. I just got to get it off. How's your dip you look like you might be I got a dip for sure. That's what you pump a one step. Yeah, I used to have a really bad dip and high school I said bring them to my knees not anymore though. But yeah, high school it was we so whenever you thought you're doing no dip when you were still dipping about the waste because how deep you were getting used to be a deep deeper. I just kind of a shallow dip beating up the side right. Yeah, but they might we might over blow the no dip. Well too many people probably do the no dip. Wait a minute Tyree. I like that you rich. I would like to hear another great shooter in the history of the NBA. People know that like you're not good at it. So stop no dipping you know I mean everybody. Yeah, who started the know when did this come into very bird probably Larry bird lethal shooter. He's taking that thing. I don't know where cozy. I was no I don't know the I'm not about to see him live. I know the originating how somebody coming at me like I don't know where it originated from but it's definitely a known turn in the know thing in the league. Who's the best shooting team that is left if you had to go around both the East and the West right now because he's not always about making shots feels like as I get more into hoops and watch more hoops whoever makes shots down a stretch normally going to be good. You know like that's normally how it's going to go. Kate Cunningham the other night just took over the stretch was like a 12 point run basically where he just was dishing automatic nicks. I feel like if you make shots down the stretch you're going to do what who's the best shooting team you think that's out there Q rich. I'm not even sure percentage wise but just when I look team for team I would say OK see they probably go to deep is with with the most guys that can do both 3 and 3 and D like they got a lot of guys different guys that could basically everybody throughout that they can make a 3 from the big J. Lynn Williams to the Wayne J. Dubb to the Caruso case and Wallace. I don't know their percentages how great they are but I know they all can make 3 is that the right answer that's our research do you think maybe the next can knock down some shots leave when can not they got hard into hard now are not hardness of stats now I probably would I probably would agree to cure it I price either OK see or or New York because more times and out they probably got 5 guys out there that can can shoot the ball but that's why the playoffs in the NBA so interesting right now the teams that are having success they they might have like one non shooter out there right now one or two which is interesting like that's interesting they said JJ put 4 eyes basically on SGA and there's a game maybe earlier this year or Joker only had like 7 shot attempts or something against Lakers because JJ Radek was like hey whatever happens here he's not the guy is that just a known thing that JJ does a lot of people do is just something that everybody has to face every single game like is this something you got into throughout last season well I think it depends on the coach I think Nick nurse is known for that as well. Especially when he was in Toronto of like especially with the beat he was like and beads not touching the ball that's just not happening some coaches that's just the way they go but I I would bet that JJ is going to continue to do that. I don't see him changing changing what he's doing and what is he is going to go for 50 is that what we're going to do for 18 or something I bet on him for the first time in years for a scoring prop and of course it's the first time in years that he doesn't score so it was certainly something I was trying to chase the crown what is the response you think coming from Shay after what the Lakers did. Now I think as G.A. just goes out there and plays he let the game come to him it's huge is that record was I don't think he he care they still won the game and I think you do the same thing this next game I think if the game allows him to score big and go above 20 or whatever he'll do that but the things that I like about him is that with the record being on the line and all those different things you didn't see him pressing or forcing the issue of trying to get thirsty and go for a bucket just for that record he knew they had to lead and he was fine with it so you know I think that's the beauty about they came this is not you know they go with whoever scoring whoever's got the flow whoever's getting to the bucket they go through that is not like a foregone conclusion that this guy has to get 30 of this guy has to get this many points man it is nice wherever he does get 30 points I assume for the Thunder which seemingly is just all the time except for last game they're saying a lot about him. Yeah, it's nice to watch when he does it ethically and I know we've already talked about this but everyone holds this guy's water everyone holds this guy's water for flopping around. Darius went on your run to the NBA finals I don't remember you flopping around flailing around like a little baby. Whoa! Do you think? Do you see it the same way? Now I saw the cut up from Brick Center and there's a few in there that I thought well okay that's a foul but there's also a lot in there that's hey what are we doing here? Okay I'm trying to watch a competitive basketball game. There are children watching this guy they're going to be copying him. Is this going to be the NBA for the next 15 to 20 years? It's so overblown bro stop it. No! It's so overblown. Overblown! It's a lot. Come on guys. He's what do you mean? Selling is a part of the game. You guys flopping, selling it's a part of basketball. He's not doing it. This isn't soccer! He's not doing it all the time like what that video from Brick Center that you're talking about. Yeah. You're saying this isn't underblown. This is super deeper overblown. Or is it just blown down the middle? Or is it? How would you type a blown? We could stop with any type of blown. I think what Tyrese is trying to say there listen is if you look back and I know Tyrese is a historian of the game so he would notice. We go back, go back to Magic, go back to Bird, go back to AI, go back to Michael. Anybody who was the lead, he's one of the leading scorer and leads. He's going to be the MVP. Whenever you that guy from Paul Pierce to Vince Carter to T-MAC, they get the calls. I don't care what you want to talk about. You go back and look up the statistics and see. Look at the leading scorer and MVP guys and look at how many more files they get called than anybody else in the league. That's just the way it goes. Those guys are elite scorer. They've learned how to manipulate and force you to file them and make it look like you're filing them all the time. That's what they do from Kobe to whichever guy you want to know. Now every guy may or may not over exaggerate with some of the reactions when they get hit or not. But regardless of the fact they were going to get those calls because they are elite at scoring the ball and whenever you were top scorer you don't get far. You got the ball all the time. I think it's the theatrics that people are sick of that is kind of what I'm realizing because I watch it. I watch up close whenever you guys are playing him. He's so good at basketball and I've said this numerous times in a microphone and I like to let everybody know as Jaylen Brunson. I thought never missed a shot. I didn't know how Kat was able to run as much as he was able to run just up close at bird. He's so big. That was kind of my takeaways from watching that particular series. This guy is so large. I don't know how he's going to keep up with you guys were just running his ass off the court basically. It felt like and Jaylen Brunson never missed. I was like that's basically my takeaway for this team. Then we got the Oklahoma City and his SDA guys just like the smoothest dude of all time. He never missed the guy. It felt like he never missed. And then I get out of the game. You know I get out of the game. I check my phone and all you got is people attacking him for flopping and foul merchant everything like I'm like man I feel like we watch live. I feel like I watch a different game than a TV because like he's getting fouled. It's just the theatrics. I think that everybody kind of gets pissed off about. They call him a flopper because of it. But I think he's getting himself in positions to get found a lot. I think I'm not I'm not 100% sure Tyrese you would have to be able to explain that more as you're not that theatrical though. You know and you could be because it's kind of in you know because you do like what is that. You know what that means. What does that mean. I mean like you'll throw a half court past spin spin and then skip around. You're shoulder. You're a WWE mark. You are you get you do get it. So the fact that you don't immediately Sean Michaels Hulk Hogan on every single. Okay that is something I think that you do have inside of you and you don't really do. He does seemingly accentuate every single contact and he does get the calls and it pisses everybody off because he's the MVP. Do you understand the conversation that from the fans perspective. I get it. I get it. But I agree with what you're saying when I'm in the game and we're playing against him. I'm not I'm not thinking like oh my God this guy is just falling around everywhere. A lot of times it's like you see a lot of these plays where people are mad that like always he's flopping but you see when the guy files on me like damn he knows he filed him. He not even argue with him. He knows he filed him. It's like the best players. I think what to cure it's point like the I think the best players can't really you don't get you don't get the you don't get the touch you don't get to like be super physical. It's just not how it works. They're going to they're good enough to sell that they're going to the free to line. Those are easy points for them. That's like James Harden who was back just a couple games ago. And then last game everybody saying he was back to but I'm saying a couple games ago. I felt like I saw old James Harden somebody accidentally put their hand out at half court. He found it. Go ahead and shoot that thing gets into the foul line. It's all three of them. It was like an immediate that's James Harden basketball. Let's talk about that series. How do you feel about the stones. Is anybody called them that. Yeah. Everyone is. Yeah. Everyone's calling them the stones. Yeah. His own. Tyrese never heard of it either. So Foxy from the Detroit area. Pistons fan miss he's way out in the farm but in the area there. Detroit fan of all their sports. He goes all the stones and I was so confused. I thought rolling stones were fucking going to do something up there. No that's what the person just heard like last week. Do people really call them that. Yeah. Really call them that. So I got on this bike. I said there's a lot of people saying what are we sure. He's not lying. I feel like he's lying. He would never know we. I was pretty nervous when I told you guys this and then we put the tweet out and a lot of people said yes we do indeed call them the stones. It's just a select few of us. He's crew from his high school said that that's what they call. So I think what we are doing is potentially taking Williamston Mishkin to the world here about the stones and on that note the stones seemingly rolling and back in it with Cade kind of leading the charge had a bunch of turnovers in the first three games. Obviously everybody thought they were going to fall to their demise has gotten hot since then they move on. Are they the one seed that we've seen from the season if you were to follow them and what are your thoughts on how they can continue throughout the rest of the playoffs. I just love the cage resilience. Now you got to think about it. He was on that team when they had the longest losing streak in the history of the NBA and you know the lead is to stay with it in a league where you know guys move on and say it's not working. He kept his head down kept working. He never made excuses and then you know they they not a number one seed and you see the same thing. He doesn't he doesn't have a lot to say he's really even killed. I feel like he's the driving force. The man had went out with a with a long puncture came back stared down a 3-1 deficit in the magic in the first round and he was the catalyst that led them back. He was the guy that when you watched him play to say I'm not allowing us to lose so I got big belief in Kate and everything he's doing. I feel like they are the best. The number one seed for reason and they're going to be a hard out in the in these playoffs especially when you got a guy like to buy a step up every other night trying to go up 20 plus and possibly 30. So I think they're rolling right now. I love watching it. I like them fighting back and then I like the coach getting an immediate extension like hey you up. Yeah, you are who we thought you are. Thank God it was getting a little shaky there. We're down 3-1 didn't know and then you win a series. Thank you for doing that for the entire city of Detroit and here's a brand new deal. It's continue to do that. I raised they're coming after Kate a little bit. They're saying to young want ready for the playoffs whenever they're playing bad against Orlando. He's come back and just dominated play incredible basketball is there a part to play off basketball where every game is prime time where everybody knows if you're playing like ass and then having to come back on the other side of it. How do you kind of deal with that actually how do you kind of do well, yeah, I think you're on TV more right. Your your game is going to get talked about more good or positive or negative you're going to get more tweets more people can be talking about you whatever but I think the good thing about the pistons is Kate is their guy and they know is their guy so it doesn't matter what kind of performance he has if it's positive or negative he knows that his teammates are looking at him like you're our guy like let's figure it out we're right which you know matter what and so I think he's plenty played well in those games turn over numbers were probably a little high higher than he wanted them but I feel like Detroit being a physical team. I feel like that Orlando Orlando's physical as well as a decent matchup for them to go against I think that's why that series went so long where I feel like they're more the physically dominating team in this series I feel like that might be able to help them and I really think that will help a guy like like Jaylen Dern to like he didn't play probably how he wanted to in round one but I feel like I can expect him to have a better round to for sure. You're a China question about the other side the calves a lot of people you know Tyrese is talking about a lot more tweets a lot more people talking about it a lot of people talking about James Harden and Donovan Mitchell not being able to get over the hump in the playoffs do you think that's a real thing or they just keep running in teams that are better than them. Yeah I think I think that's a real thing you know you look at the pitch and they're number one C for a reason they dominated in the regular season for a reason they're really good team and coming into these playoffs we know it would be a hard hard out for whoever had to face him so for the Cavs to be running up against that now I think you've seen James Harden has performed I mean maybe not like the Houston James Harden that we we used to see him but he performed at a high level and been there for his team and been there moments and I got big faith in Donovan that he always is going to come out and ball out now every game he may not shoot the greatest percentages and things like that but the one thing that I believe about Donovan Mitchell that he's always going to be game and ready to go and play as hard as and be there now. You may not make all the shots all the time but he definitely is going to be ready for war I believe that about done how tall is Donovan tall spider like 64. Could you imagine him at how he's what you think I think he's 6 6 6 2 is what he's listed. You imagine him a detackle sure he is I mean he is stout he is a stout dude 6 to 2 20s we listen powerful to move are powerful. Yeah, so smooth. He can just move so well. It's like what was Aaron Donald I'm not going to say Donovan Mitchell is Aaron Donald trained with knives but I'm just saying like the bill that's the build of Donovan Mitchell I'm like that I had to be a football guy had had to have been a football guy just had ridiculous handles he is fun to watch makes every play and if James are a come on James they're saying stuff about your playoff stuff. Let's go James. I'm James hard fan with the beard on the hell you got to do let's start putting these up James off the courts cool hilarious actually yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, all of it all of it we're big fans OK you rich we make some picks for tonight quickly before you know we pivot into an NHL conversation tonight we have the Cavaliers at the Pistons Pistons favored by 3 and a half in the Lakers at the Thunder Thunder the Thunder. Their failure and thunder. 15 and a half Jesus come on. It's another one for you to little little last time. Yeah, I'm still I'm I'm I'm going I give it to the Pistons tonight I say the Pistons win again at home go to and obviously I'm rolling with the Thunder in this one is going to be it's going to be take the incredible feet for the Lakers to get a game against this team. This guy hates the guy's. The sides take over the best ladies and gentlemen that's cure. Good word after that away. Massive Jordan fan from Chicago obviously you're from Midwest. I heard you say in a press conference recently release and you said every kid that plays in Wisconsin wants to go to Iowa State nowadays anyways or something like that because you guys just signed a new kid. You're Michael Jordan fan growing up or because LeBron James in Ohio. You grew up in the LeBron James. I was born in 2000 bro. Oh my God. So not so not as much but still he's been alive for you know LeBron in the NBA at least all the time. That's unbelievable how young you are. I completely forgot about that and you're old now 26. I'm old. Yeah you got to get your own insurance. You got to get off your parents insurance. Yeah I have been on my own insurance for a while. Really I know how the NBA works. You ensure all those outfits. Oh no you don't know some watches and stuff. Yeah. Oh congratulations. Smart. That's smart. Be a nice watch. Yeah definitely was remember he was buying his watch. Mavado. Yes sir. Oh yeah. That's right. Very kind of you do that. Puma I see you rocking a Puma there. Shout out. Shout out Puma every single day. Comments wearing. He's a real one for that. He is especially those that takes me back man. When did you text me. I got a new number. Oh you hear this guy. I did get a little bit of this guy. I don't know. No I got a new number. That's how I get a lot of this. I got to give you my new number. You're also not a downtown boy anymore. So that's you said. See you Connor. Well to be clear though. Tyrese whenever I saw him in Vegas after he celebrated me getting put through a table and potentially you were celebrating my next son of a I celebrated you kind of didn't do anything. I know your dad I was flipping off everybody. Okay I come out. I love this story. I'm flipping off everybody bang. Everybody's doing it. And even in the front George Kiddles even like you know we do man. Jameer Gibbs was there. Give me a little stuff like everybody basically and then your dad holding his phone big thumbs up huge thumbs up. Just in the middle of everybody. I look around. I'm like me bugging everybody or whatever I see your dad. I just look at him and I go fuck you Michael Cole. Just because I didn't want to talk to you. I love your dad. Your dad the goat man. I mean just absolutely the man through and through. We need you guys to go win. Go on another title run. So your dad could go on title run. Yeah that is no disrespect to you but you understand what I'm saying. I guess I get it. I guess I didn't like how much you saw. Then he introduced us to 50 Cent. Tony. Yeah. Yeah. What? Well, camera was in there. That was there till Monday. I saw him on Monday night. Wrong. I was there till Tuesday. Actually had to journey. I had had an appearance with Adobe on Tuesday. Oh, that's why you said. What were you selling? Acrobatic reader. Photo shop. Anything. Yeah. What is an Adobe? I was at Adobe Tech Summit. Photoshop. What you talk about? You talk about AI taking everybody's jobs? No, I did not talk about that. I spoke on fan loyalty and in sports. And what is it kind of revolve around you think this fan loyalty if you had to really? Well, they were asking me questions. I just answered the question. That's a question. It's like a TED talk. It was a what's that called? There's multiple people up there. Oh, a panel. The panel. Yes, sir. You're on the panel. Yes, I was on a panel. How many people are on the panel? Four people with a host? Three people with a host. Okay, you all had comfortable chairs? Yeah, chairs were comfy. Did we have the microphone on the face? We did. Oh, you guys really do? That's it. Big LED board behind you? Big LED board. Oh, yeah. It doesn't, right? This guy's a corporate speaker all of a sudden. Okay, so whatever you're talking about, fan loyalty and how you can treat fans right. How to engage with your fans through whatever. Mine was the youngest one up there. So it's more about social media in the world of sports. I love making vlog shoes. I do things like that. Yes, sir. There you go. I get out there. I play chess against people in New York. Wemby does that. I don't know how to play chess. Do. I thought you go hang out with monks and stuff. Wemby, I've never hung out with a monk. Oh, you said they're cool. You need to do that. I thought you were fan loyalty, I thought. You thought my dad was a monk. Your dad could be the best monk of all time. But anyways, thank you for speaking on fan loyalty to those people. You potentially bring them into sports, which we appreciate. Yes, sir. And I'll tell you what, anytime you got one of them on, you know it's about to come. With a board behind you? Big board. What you do with your legs? Did you go cross legs? I never know what to do in those situations. Yeah, you know, you kind of just mix it up as you go. Yeah. Cross the leg. You look over and that guy's crossing his legs. So you can't, I can't look like him. Yeah, I can't clap. Lean on shoulder, on arm. We do that work. I don't know if lean on arm is the best choice. Well, it depends where you're at. If you're at the very end, you got to at least act like you're in gate. I was a, what kind of charit is? I was third. I was third. So you can go arms cross like hands folded in the middle here. Arms cross is what I went with the most part. Game day, they got my ass right in the middle of that thing. Fascinating how that one goes. Well, it's nice. You got the table right there so you can hide a little bit. Yeah, that's nice. Yeah, but then whenever this is A and then, you know, we got to go over here. Turn your back. And I never know. Sometimes the lower body is going one way and the chair goes another. I look like a fat ass up there a lot of times. It's tough spot. I assume you handled it well for the good of sport. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Tyrese. You think you would have scored 15 at game seven? We were one title. I think so. We had had a parade. We'd have been so cool. We'll do it again someday. Speaking of parades, a man who brought Lord Stanley Cup down to South Florida multiple times and also help bring a gold medal to the United States men's hockey and is about to win another world championship here in about eight days. Ladies and gentlemen, Matthew Kitchock. Yeah. How you doing, Paul? What's up, boys? How are you guys? Good. You look fantastic. Thank you for joining us. Good jawline right now. Wow. Hey, you look like you're in great shape right now. How's the body? How's it? How is everything in Kitchock's world right now? It's it's bodies good. I mean, obviously, Pat, we've talked a bunch last year. Crazy surgery at the end of the year and didn't feel anywhere close to myself until probably right before the Olympics. Best thing that happened to me was going over there, playing every, every other day, skating every other day, kind of keeping like my rhythm going, getting back in like that game shape, getting back in like the just the rhythm of getting hit and hitting people and being in competitive games and those games over there were so nuts, so competitive that when I came back after the Olympics, just kind of gained all my confidence back. Okay. I love that. We're about to go play again. I just learned I don't know how public everything is. If you've made an announcement or if you're supposed to make an announcement, if the Florida Panthers know this, I have no idea what is known by anybody, but the International Ice Hockey Federation has a world championship happening next weekend in Zurich, which is in what country? Switzerland, Tyrese. Yeah. That's 100 percent right. This is a world championship that happens every single year. Obviously, the Canadians have won a lot of these. Gumby, how many of these types of world championship says Canada one? Around 88 or so. Oh, who won last year's IHF World Championship? I don't think we did, unfortunately. Oh, the United States of America. Oh, yeah. Okay. So tell me a little bit about this world championship and this is obviously an every year event. You playing in this field is big to me. I know Sydney has played in this, Crosby has played in this in the past for Team Canada. How can you kind of quantify what's about to happen next week and what are our chances? Are we winning this thing? Well, I sure as hell hope so. Not going over there for a vacation. Better give ourselves a chance to win. But yeah, I think the best way to describe it is it's an every year thing. This is actually my first time going because it's in mid to late May. The last few years I've been in playoffs a couple of years before that I was up for a contracts. I didn't go. So there's always like a couple of reasons why guys are banged up after their NHL season. So might not go because of that. Guys having kids. I mean, there's there's so many reasons why, but I think it's just such an honor to wear USA jersey and kind of like playing for the Olympics and then going here like a few months later, like I still have that feeling that I had representing back in in February in Milan. It's like, how could I not want to be a part of that again? So I'm really excited to go. I'm going a couple of days into the tournament. I'm going to try to try to bring another championship back to the United States. We won for the first time last year. I was on the team, but USA won. I think it was for like the first time in a hundred years. So we're hoping to do it again this year. The first time in a hundred years. Seriously? So we have a living. I couldn't be very much over exaggerating. We've been setting our high schoolers up there. Yeah, we've lost tournament a long time. Feels like it feels like it's just kind of hockey is. Or yeah. Yeah. The only thing we've really lost. I guess. Well, draft draft lottery Toronto got two years.哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎 Okay, obviously the IIHF World Championship happening next weekend will be good for hockey. Hockey right now is seeing massive boost. We had Gary Bettman on yesterday to talk about, you know, this like the most viewed playoffs in nine years or new, right, whatever it is. Everybody's watching hockey right now. I think the U.S. Olympic team has a huge piece of that, both the men and the women, for everybody falling in love with the sport or being reminded why the sport is so spectacular. You obviously have been in the Stanley Cup the last three years, winning the last two. Now you're kind of watching from a different perspective. How have you found yourself watching these games? Are you finding yourself rooting for the East? Are you rooting against people? How do you kind of view what's happening right now with these playoffs who the world is tuning into? It's weird. Obviously, you want to be playing. I think you just catch yourself rooting against a few teams that you just don't like. I'm not going to say that on here, but I'm just happy a couple of them aren't still playing, so that's nice. But I don't know. It's a weird, weird feeling. It's great to see that hockey. I saw those numbers the same time you guys saw those the other day. The numbers are through the roof right now, so that's so cool. That hockey is such a big thing right now in the United States. Going back to the Olympics with our team and the women's team winning, it seemed like coming back from Milan. Hockey was the cool thing here in the United States. I'm happy to see that it's still trending in the right direction. Playoffs have been unreal so far. They've been crazy games a lot of over times. I just think, I know I'm not allowed to pick anything, but I would say that the winner of Colorado and Mini has got a very, very good sense of winning at all. That's a big boy battle with those two teams, and Colorado is playing as good as anybody right now. I love you saying, I know I'm not allowed to pick anything, but I just want to let you know what I'm seeing over there in Colorado, Minnesota. At the end of that, what was 5-2, end of that, we're talking about their laying bodies. It reminded me of your guys' coach whenever there was a Mike Dupes release that it was like, hey, this is a seven game series, bodies on bodies here, down there. That was actual plan. I mean, absolute, McKinnon, two of them, that was 5-2. That was after Quinn lost an edge, I believe, and then got buried in the ice as well. It's like very physical brand of hockey, a lot of big dogs playing against each other. It has been spectacular, but the Avalanche have obviously just looked outrageous. They're not the only ones, though, across the entire image. I'll go ahead, Conman. Yeah, Chuck, the other one on the other side would be Carolina. Both those teams being six and no. Carolina's never, they don't have the experience, rather, that Colorado has with Stanley Cup final and the win that Colorado has. But what have you seen from Carolina? Because it feels like this might be the year they get over the hump with Florida, your team being out. That was the one team, basically, they'd run into and just get absolutely washed. What do you think about the nail guns over there for Carolina Hurricanes? I was actually at one of the games in Carolina because I went and saw my brother play. It was game two, of course, the one I go to goes in at the end of the double overtime, so that was great. But I think they're a really good team. They're always in this position every year, so they're doing something right. They're really fast. At home, I noticed, they're a team when you go on the road. At first 10 minutes, 5, 10 minutes, they are all over you and they have continued that and that's kind of been their bread and butter for years. So home ice has been a big, big advantage for them. They're playing great. The only thing that you obviously don't want to lose ever, you want to lose a game ever, but you almost wonder like some of these teams that have just kind of coasted through the first round and starting to go through the second round, you almost need to hit a little adversity to win it all. There's no team that's ever gone 16-0, I don't think. I mean, I guess one of these two could this year, but at one point they're going to hit adversity. Colorado might hit a little adversity at some point, but ultimately you're better from that. I just think they haven't hit it yet. So it's hard to say which one of those teams might be the favorite right now. It's really tough. Certainly a gift. You get more days off, obviously. If you sweep, you don't have to play as many games. Your legs might be fresher. You might have a team. But the curse there is you don't have the moment of everybody having to fix the shit that's wrong, because whenever you're winning, it's kind of a band-aid to cover everything up. And then once you lose, it's like, wait, we got to fix some shit here. And you can also bring the lads together, which I think you're a big part of Chucky. I think you and your brother proved you're big lads, guys. Big, big lads, guys. Can you tell by watching these teams who's tighter or who's not tighter as a group or as a unit? Or should we expect all these guys to be a pretty tight bunch at this stage of the NHL playoffs? Every team says they're tight. But you know not every team's exactly what they say. I think I look to Colorado and Minnesota. It just seems like two teams that have a ton of fun seem to really bond with each other. You can tell by the camaraderie with each other, like during the games, talking on the bench, banging the sticks after a block shot or a big hit. I don't know. Those two teams, I also think one team that's really, really been a surprise team to a lot of people, but not to us. Maybe I'll say both of them is Buffalo and Montreal. Those two teams are really, really good. But I think their advantage is this is their first time going through it and their first time really making a playoff run so far. Those two teams look like they're having a ton of fun. I watched the last three or four games of the Montreal Tampa series and Montreal is for real. They're a really good team and they could have won that series against Tampa in five games, four games. They played really, really well. I think that series can be really good and going to be a must watch for me. I mean, an absolutely nasty goal here from Kirby dock. I mean, just absolute filth there. They're talking goal of the playoffs right there. I mean, there's been a lot of good ones. There's been some insane skill on display, obviously throughout the entire playoffs. And this is where hockey is in prime time and the best players are playing. Shit like that seemingly happens every night, even though it makes no sense how you guys have so much incredible talent. The other side you mentioned it there is the grit and the toughness. You guys will actually fight each other. You guys will hit each other and you guys will throw your faces in front of objects going like a hundred miles an hour and kind of take pride in it. Go ahead, Tom. Yeah, Chuck. Last night, the ducks were up to about seven minutes. Not you NBA player. No way. And Mikkel Granlin was in front of the net and he threw his body in front of the puck to save a goal. And obviously you see that a ton in the playoffs. And then a couple of nights back, Quinn Hughes was getting shit for getting out of the way of puck. People were saying, you know, was he worried about, you know, a screen of the goalie and stuff like that or hitting off him and going the goal? How do you know when to lay yourself out in front of a rubber missile or get out of the way so the goalie can get in front of it? Rubber missile. Wow. Well, first of all, Quinn's like one of the biggest dogs in the NHL right now. So I'm sure he was like tying up with the guy in front like he would not get out of a way of a puck. He's an animal. He's one of the best and doesn't have to be because he's so skilled and so good on the other end of the ice. Like he doesn't have to do it, but he does it because he's one of the best. I mean, that Granlin block definitely saved a goal. Throwing the foot out there. It's like kind of a, when you're in that moment and I am not a big block shot. I'm not. But that's like a desperation, like throw the foot out. Like that's your last resort right there. Like look at him, his body's to the right. That's unreal. That saves a goal. Ultimately wins him the game. But I think when you're in these games, like I just said, I'm not a huge block shot guy. I don't think many, many people are, but when you're in these games where every single play is momentum, you never know Vegas gets that goal. I don't know how much time was left. They can get one again and win it over time. Like that's the little things that add up in these playoff games. So it doesn't matter who you are. Granlin's like one of the best players on Anaheim. Very offensive. Like he's a hell of a player. He doesn't have to do that, but you just, you just do it because that's what it takes at this time of year. That's the best time of year to play. You put everything on the line. I don't know if anybody's throwing their face in front of a puck on purpose, but I mean, if that's what it takes, that's what it takes. All right, good. So I'll stop saying it's on purpose then. I'll just start saying that it happens and the lads are okay with it. Hockey, obviously electrifying and the numbers and the people that are tuning in into Barnes. Okay. You talked about like Buffalo not knowing and having a good time to boys on the ice. It's like their fans are having a great time. The Blades boys. The Blades boys welcomed in some Montreal Blades boys. Yeah. The, I don't know if you saw the pregame festivities, they almost had a, a blade hockey game outside. Oh yeah. And I'll tell you, I think the Buffalo grit boys will potentially outlast the Montreal lads, but nobody wants anything to do with down there in Carolina with the lads that. Oh, Jarvis's boys. Jarvis boys. Jarvis boys. Jarvis, have you seen these boys from Manitoba that have come down to Carolina? These lads right here, they're just known as Jarvis boys. They were cranking the siren the other day. They were cranking the siren out there. My favorite entourage group is the Buffalo blade gang. I would take, I would put my money on them to beat up everybody, beat up the Montreal lads on rollerblades, beat up those guys. I would take the Buffalo lads all day. Those guys look, those guys are a real deal. I like those guys. The only American bunch out of the crew that you just mentioned, and that's why next weekend at the international ice hockey federations world championship in Zurich, Switzerland, this man will be attempting to go for gold. And also you didn't tell us this. We had to do some research while we were on air here. Matthew Kachuk, if you were to win the IIHF world championship next weekend, you'd become one of 31 men in the history of hockey to win the triple gold, which is Olympic gold Stanley Cup in world championship. Okay. There's only 30 people that have done it. No Americans. Damn. Have ever done it. Okay. You become one of 31 men next weekend. I like that you didn't tell us about that. We had to look into that. Hey, let's fucking go. Come on, Chucky. Chucky, let's go over there and do the shit. We can't wait to watch you. Like I said, I'm not going over there for a free vacation. We're going there to do a job and win it and have another great celebration. Hey, for the good of American. Is Brady going? The question. Brady just had a kid. Okay. He is not. I would, I would love if he, if he were able to, but he's. Congrats on the kids. Yeah. Congrats on the. Brady. Another kachok coming in. Any names on the team that have been announced? Do you know who's going over there yet or is it kind of the roster's fluid? I swear. I know nothing really other than that I'm going at some point. I've been occupied on one. If I was going, if I was able to, so kind of just committed a few days ago and we'll we'll find out here more shortly. I know a lot of the guys, the tournament starts on the 15th and I'm going there a couple days after. So yeah, I'm pumped. Like there's nothing better than playing the best game in the world and we're in a red, white and blue. We've talked about it a million times. It's just nothing like it. So I can't wait. Come on. Good luck over there. We appreciate the hell out of you. Going for the triple gold. Matthew Kachok. Good research in the back, Nick. Hell yeah. Yeah. That's a big deal. That was always like an accolade. You know, a lot of those guys have the merits already to get into the hockey all fame, but that is a surefire ticket punch to the Hall of Fame. If you can complete that, I've been talking to him literally for the last couple of days. He panthers owner Vinnie Viola obviously owns golden temperature sauce talking about a full conversation takes place helps connect us with Sherry DeVoe, which is very cool off Kachok, but also talking to him and then I'm like, Hey, what do you got going on? You know, he's like, Oh, I'm heading to Zurich. I'm like, love Zurich. Yeah, good golf. You've always got beautiful mountains. Zurich open. The watches are unbelievable. Yeah. I assume I think I've seen on the internet people do the mountains over there with like little cars. Yeah. You know, like it looks like a really good time over there. Yeah. Turns out no, he's going for a world championship. I'm not fucking riding it to Boggins. That's what he said. Maybe after I'm going to play for you know, I think Foxy went there last year. Tyrese, representing United States of America. Obviously you got an A. Okay. On the on the group project. Did it feel as if in that moment it was like America versus everybody and do the entire team get that sense? Does that make sense? Because it felt like that with the hockey teams. Whenever we were playing Canada, it felt like holy hell, it really is us first, these people up here. Like it really felt France France in the finals too. Like you've taken on the home country like that entire arena. You guys, it was obviously done. Was that a cool vibe? And honestly, I've never got a chance to experience it. How was it in there? When you get the chance to do it, have you learned anything from kind of experience that you've already gathered? Yeah, it's fire. There's nothing like it. Like it's so it's so special because everybody wants to see you lose like genuinely everybody not in this country, but everywhere. Some people do. Yeah, some people do really. There's more to talk about the next day and they can they can hate for sure. But no, that's I think that's the beauty in it. That's what makes more fun. How do we all feel you're born in 2000? How do we all feel about tomorrow? The return of Skip Bayless? Oh, and Stephen A. Smith. You said there are people that want to see you lose so, you know, they can hate and talk about the next day. But Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless getting back on it. I'm not saying they're hating, but they certainly talk about a lot of things. And in debate, there is some hate that certainly comes out. You're talking about two goats of this thing. I think whenever you talk about debate television coming back tomorrow, I'm excited. Skip cut a promo into a cell phone. He's jacked. He said he's readier than ever. What do you like five likes on Twitter? Five thousand in a minute million. Can I be on? Five thousand K maybe. Yeah. Can I be honest? What are you talking about? Hold on. Hold the phone. You don't want to see Stephen A. in Skip Bayless. Get back in there and go jab for jab with a hook or two coming in there tomorrow. Like the good old days of debate on television before everybody thought they had to become a debater. The master debaters are actually about to take each other on tomorrow. First time in 10 years on first take. Tyrese. Is it good for sports? You want me to say? Oh, you do dude. Oh, hello. Boxing. What was that Tyrese? Come on. Are we being serious? It's like a waste is getting back together, bro. That's right. I'd rather watch someone pull my fingernails out. I'd rather watch anything. What? I think I'd rather watch anything. What? That's how she almost ruined sports television. No, but. What the hell is going on? You cannot blame the pioneers for everybody that was trying to follow suit. Maybe. Okay. Everybody was trying to do the same exact thing. And you have to be, you have to give credit where it's due. Those two are good debaters. Yeah. Things that they believe. The things that they believe you can think are, well, that's ass. Okay. That is not how actual people think. Which I think a lot of us think about a lot of things that get into these things. We in these debate shows. But it's like Stephen A. dabbling in the political world. It's like if he gets into debates with people, I feel like sports debaters. We're pretty good. We're pretty good debate. And I think it's because sports media has been debate society since these two have kind of gone after it. So I think two old bulls kind of tangling one more time. You know, Ric Flairhead is final, man. You know, one final run here for the boys. You know what I'm talking about? Like members Stone Cold Steve Austin, one last stunner to Vince McMahon at WrestleMania 40. That's what this is potentially. This is one last go of the land. LeBron versus Jordan. How the people. Yeah. Is that what this is? How excited were you to see how excited was the world to see Stone Cold stun Vince McMahon? Very. Not as excited as I've ever been. Very, right? How excited are people? Are people truly to watch this video? 9 times 10. What are they going to talk about? We know. We know who plays the night. Who plays the night? Tonight, we have obviously we have the Cavs and the Pistons. What's the second game? Lakers and a Thunder. Hmm. So I wonder what the conversation tomorrow. I mean, two hours of that. Yeah, you're right. Because the Pistons coming back number one overall. Yeah. Is that what you're saying? I don't know. Cajun playing the Flyers. They might dive into a little bit of pop. Oh, and also, I don't know if you know this. May madness is about to happen. Yeah, that's right. College lacrosse. There's a chance Princeton, the Ivy League back on top. Is that not right, Connor? No, you absolutely nailed it. And then, Nick Iberri, who is kind of their premier player up there for Princeton. He is a Toronton finalist, as we know, the Kavanaugh boys, the Kavanaugh lads. They kind of let us know last year and the year before about that entire situation. But it is kind of a throwback, a little bit of an old school bracket. We have three Ivy League teams. Army is playing. This is Princeton right here. I believe they are kind of the premier team. This is the year that there should at least be an Ivy League team in the final Notre Dame. Some of our boys, of course, Yago, Jeffrey, no more Kavanaugh's. They have a Toronton finalist. I don't want to get his name wrong. Sean Light, Lit. He's a defenseman. You never see this. There's five players all up for the Toronton. Basically, the Heisman of Lacrosse for people that don't know Lacrosse. And he's the only defenseman. It's four attackmen and then one defenseman. But it should be a fantastic tournament. This is one I've been looking forward to for a while. Richmond, great story. They're actually the four seed. This will be the first time they ever host anybody in Mayhem, May, May, Mayhem. And no, I'm legitimately juiced for this UAlbany. Going to North Carolina UAlbany, actually, if we remember, is the Thompson twins, the Cousins, the Native American brothers. They kind of put them on the map a little bit. Cornell, Hopkins, Notre Dame, Jacksonville, yes. Jacksonville has a Lacrosse team. Yep, it's starting to grow. It's part of the future. Don't look now. Which might be in about five years from now because I'm hearing people in Ohio, kids are starting to play Lacrosse in Ohio. If you told me 20 years ago people in Ohio growing up would be playing Lacrosse, I think you're freaking high. Yeah, I think Lacrosse has obviously done an incredible job of having great highlights and also the Arena League that is professional. The NLL, yeah. Unbelievable. So that might be in the B block right there. May Madness, Princeton's back on top. It certainly looked like the old days. You got West Point in there. You got obviously a bunch of Notre Dame prestige up on the line. That could potentially be what they're talking about. Well, I mean, pardon my ignorance, I have a question there. Why did some teams play like 11 games and some teams have played like 18? It's funny you should say that because I actually, while looking at the bracket, was confused by that about a month ago, I think there's a couple teams that were, I don't know, they only played like six games and the season typically starts in February. I'm not sure if some programs in the conferences have kind of dwindled whether or not that happens or if some of the conference tournaments have been shrunk down. But yeah, I was also confused by that a little bit. I don't know why. So some teams might be fresher. Some teams might be more experienced. We'll see as May May Madness continues for College Across. They could talk about that. I'm excited for that. That is more, May May Ham is much more exciting. Than? Yeah. The reunion you're talking about. Oh no, I think you're a superstar. Okay, I don't think there's any debate. And I don't think that's going to come up tomorrow at all. Right. Kains at Flyers for the NHL. Kains are currently on a six game winning streak. Good luck to them. It's eight o'clock on TNT. Cavs at Pistons. Lakers at Thunder. It is a spectacular playoff evening as our one hero wraps up on this glorious What the Hally Thursday. In our tour, we got Jet Pass and joined. Oh, baseball is doing it right now. Have you seen the baseball ratings? No. I don't know how everything in sports is so far up. It feels like maybe there's a newfound love or intoxication for America back into the sports universe because everything that's kind of happening outside in the world is a bit insane. Let's go ahead and dive into sports a little bit more. Plus 44% over last year. And what was the NHL? Plus 68% or something like that. They are 100. Over last year. In the playoffs, at least, they were up 100% in some of the games. Yeah, it's just absolute insanity right now. Up into the rider sports. And we're so incredibly pumped and lucky that we're a tiny little piece of the sports universe. Can't wait till you're back on our TVs doing great things on the court, Tyrese. We appreciate your dedication to your recovery and for coming through here one and a half minutes before the show started. Yeah, that was cool. I really want to hang out for a little bit instead. I was working out. I was working out. I made it here. I wasn't working out. Five on five? No, it wasn't just shots. You shower and get ready for an hour after two? Geez. Let's put up shots, dude. Maybe. He wants Boston to win. I want you to win. We'll see you on the other side. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice and might change your life. All right. We'll sign up then start streaming in the ESPN app. It's all the ESPN all in one place. Sign up or activate now. Sport are the greatest phenomena. Yeah, that's right. All-star Olympic gold medalist, a man who would have scored 72 points in game seven of the NBA finals one year ago. It was Achilles. Didn't burst. He is now on the return to recovery and next year he'll be doing the same exact thing. Ladies and gentlemen, Pacers legend, Tyrese Halleberg. I love that the bit, the number keeps going up. I love that. Well, we don't know. I don't want to put a, hey, who am I to box you in? I'm not Halleboxing. You know what I mean? I'm going to go ahead and Halle open that box. Halle-buffer. Yeah, you're damn right. No. What'd you say? Buffer? Halle-buffer? Yeah. Oh, I thought you called me a fl- I thought you said somebody else. I said Halle-buffer. I said Halle-buffer. Like there is no buffer to where he's going. No buffer. No governor. No nothing. You could have scored a hundred. Someone scored 83 this year. It could have been 84. Bingo. Especially game seven of the finals. Could you imagine if you would have been doing all that in the game, you're going to do it again. And that's what we appreciate. Can't wait. That's why I don't want to say 50 points. I mean. With the number one overall pick. Yeah, who got? TJ's going to get the number one overall pick. Oh, the lottery is on Sunday. So how come you aren't going? How come TJ's going? I went before. I didn't really bring us a lot. What happened to the vote? Oh, really? So this is like a coin toss type thing. You've gone out there and it's been ass. Let's send somebody else. Not ass. We didn't go up. We didn't go down. We stayed at our place. Oh, that's not bad. What happens if OK, she gets number one overall pick? That'd be rough. One year ago today. This is what we were celebrating. Ha, ha, he. A quickie look. Ha. Just getting started. People had no idea what was about to come next round. And then the next round, I mean, it was an unbelievable. This is what we're working back towards. This is why we appreciate you showing up 35 seconds before the show started. Because you had a three and a half, four hour workout this morning. Get back healthy. We appreciate you. Talks at the table at Boston Conner and one half of the hammer. Cowboys AP tone. Love everything about what you got going on. Ty Schmidt, we miss you. Live from Anatica, Ohio as a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawke. Yeah, Hawke. This guy's a guy right here, Ty Reese. AJ, have you been watching? Ty Reese kind of handle himself in the entire first hour. Didn't like his lack of pizzazz about skipping Steven coming back tomorrow. Yeah, I don't know what his problem is with skipping Steven A, but if Ty Reese, I do have to take your side. I do not think you are a theatrical guy when you're on the court. I know. Thank you. Maybe that's a compliment off the court, but I think on the court, you're not theatrical. Thank you, AJ. Yeah, but he does have the theatrics inside of him. You're saying deep down inside. Yeah, that's a compliment. He's talented. You were trying to use the theatrical in a negative way. No, we were trying to melanch your celebrations. Like that one right there. You did the big ball there. Nobody said pizzazz has never been negative. He's twisted to showman. I like showman better. Theatrical, you're trying to make me, you know, sound the type of way. No, if I was saying dramatic, that would be different. That would be different. Theatric is like this guy's got an eye for the theatrics. So you meant theatric in a positive way. Show. I love shows. I go watch shows all the time. He saw one with the Hamilton. There it is. Yeah, Alexander Hamilton. Yes, twice. Two different kings. And two different. Yeah, two different everybody. Yeah, I've seen two different cast. I have depth. I'll go watch. You saw that one with Sedeikis. Bingo. The one where Robin Williams. Yeah, Robin Williams. That poet society. Boom. Yeah, so I'll watch whatever. The South Park one. Yeah, so I'll do whatever. I saw Michael Malone eat 100 needles right here. Coach of the Denver Nuggets. No, he's coach of the North Carolina. He's a magician. There's a magician out of Ohio that ate 100 needles. Right here. 100. Yeah, I just like the, I like the actress. No, I never saw that. Awesome. It's part of the drafts attack. There were years before we went to the actual draft. We had some absurd things. This guy came in here, dropped the 100 needles in his throat. I'm gonna start hitting him. AJ punched him in the stomach. He walked away. That was the trick. How did they come out? We don't know. We still don't know. We said this could still be inside of him. He might be a man just never poops. And he kind of took advantage of that by putting needles. That might really hurt. Yeah, I think so. I think he'd have a problem. But what I'm saying is I like the theatrics. He was a compliment. If I was to say you're a dramatic flopper, that's me trying to condescendingly tell you that I hate everything you're about. Theatrics, I like the show. SGA is theatrical. I don't think you are a theatrical ball player, but I think within side of you in your game, there are some theatrics. Okay. You agree? Yeah. You're a showman. I like to think so. Are there nights where you're kind of tired, kind of off? You're like, maybe I don't want to do a no look pass tonight. No, no, it doesn't exist. It doesn't exist. Always want a no look. Always. Yeah. Always want to put one in between somebody's legs. Always want to be at the last second with an inbound pass, with somebody standing right in front of you with .2 seconds left. Ah! And then just throwing it to the person. Oh! Oh! Bob, you love all that. Pass off with somebody's ass coming inbound. You love all that stuff every night. I like you. Yeah. There's a video going around saying you're a super genius. Yeah, great montage. Did your people put that together probably? I have no idea what video you're talking about. Is that a Puma thing? What video are you talking about? I'm talking about you being a super high IQ basketball player. Yeah, just all great plays from just one playoff run, not sure. I think I'm a pretty smart basketball player. I think so too. Have you heightened that from sitting out for a year at this level of your game? What do you think you're going to take away this year having watched the game? You know what I see more than anything is why coaches think the way that they do on certain things. You know, like when a guy is like, challenge that. And you're like, and as a player, it's hard not to like, you have a foul. You don't think it's a foul. You're like, challenge it. Then you realize like, it's the first quarter. Does it really matter? It's not being an idiot. You know, like, I think that's kind of helped a little bit. I see it from coach perspective a little more. Okay, I like that. You're a little bit more of a, how about your leadership? Will that change your leadership style, you think? Not necessarily. I think this year was hard though, because it's like when you're not playing, like, you're like, can I really say something? Like, what can I really say if I'm not playing? But, you know, you figure it out because guys, they know the work that you put in. So it's not the big of a deal. Well, how about Zubac? I mean, you had Miles Turner for a little while, and then that went, oh, that went, especially with Milwaukee this year. But how about them still like making moves for you basically for next year? Because, you know, this year went hell, went. Even at the trade deadline, I feel like the Pacers going to get Zubac was kind of at a left field, but clearly they're like kind of still all the way behind you. Like, how good did that feel amidst, you know, one of the worst seasons the Pacers have had that they're still kind of at him for you? Yeah, well, I think that's exciting. I think that he brings a different dynamic to our team than we've had in the past. I think you guys are going to like Big Zoo a lot. I like the name already. Big Zoo is certainly something I like. I like what the NBA is doing as a whole. I like what the NHL is doing as a whole. I like that the NFL is always cooking as well. I don't know if you've been keeping up with some of the NFL headlines. I hope. What would that be? Well, there's one that I kind of cooked up this morning because of things that I'm seeing. Drake, Drake may, may be the next one. Yeah. Let's not talk about Drake, Drake may, may. Okay. Just being a guy who took his team to the Super Bowl in the second year. Hell yeah. Drake may, may be the next one. He was at the truest PGA event this weekend, which is in Quail Hollow, North Carolina. He's obviously a North Carolina boy. This is for Eagle. This is a quarterback that just took his team to the Super Bowl. And that's a big fucking bird. Wow. Yeah, go ahead and drop that thing. Yeah. Okay. Obviously he's been working. Also, he's having to answer questions for some other stuff going on around the New England Patriots organization. Patriots quarterback Drake may said he doesn't believe Mike Vrabel's off field issues will be a distraction for the defending AFC champions. This upcoming season's story, VAP also gonna say that he loves him. He's a great leader and this might actually rally the boys. Now there's a boat involved in the entire story. What? It's getting louder and louder by the day. But Drake may seemingly face a franchise quarterback always wants the person to do that. Handling this well. This is a lot on a young quarterback right now with what's going on. Literally every day more things coming out. And it feels like not only is he burying Eagles, he's also burying narratives that are potentially happening behind the scenes. And that makes me say that Drake may, may be the next one when it's all said and done, AJ. Yeah. This is all part of being a franchise quarterback. You have to deal with stuff I guess you never would have foreseen having to deal with. So yeah, at a young age to be able to kind of figure everything out like this and do everything in somehow the right way off the field and say the right things. Yeah, that's why you know that this guy is their franchise from next 12 to 15 years problem. Just putting fires out. He's young. How old is he? 23? 23, yeah. 23 years old having a point. There's no media training for stuff like this either. There's nothing like, there's no textbook to go off of. Like getting asked questions about other stuff other than yourself. Come on guys. You just want to play football. You're just trying to play football. Yeah. And if we're talking about boats, there's some more serious things. There's people stranded out there on a boat right outside of the car. So we're talking about boats. That should be the main focus. No, that's not the boat we're talking about. We're talking about a brand new boat trip that we just learned about down here in Tennessee. And on that note, every time we hear about a new boat or a new this or a new that, Drake may 23 year old quarterback has to somehow just go in there and be like, hey, this is all going to be okay. Like this is all going to be, that's what a quarterback actually has to do. That's crazy in my eyes that this is something that he's going to have to like literally prove. Because remember, Vraybal was the guy helping him be a leader. Not that he's going to stop doing that, but Vraybal was like teaching him, hey, got to go talk to the wide receivers. Got to go do this, got to do this. And now he's in a position where anytime he's in front of a microphone, which is going to be a lot, anytime this year for the foreseeable future for his entire career, there's always going to be a chance that a question is going to come. That has a lot of people's interest, but also families involved and kids and stuff. And he's going to have to give the right answer. And he's doing it seemingly very early. And while doing it, burying Eagles, he's so clear minded. This guy might be a real one out here. Yeah, he's unbelievable golf. If we just go back through kind of the greats of the game, they all seem to have a buttery swing, which is exactly what Drake may has. I'm assuming hopefully once the season gets rolling a little bit, you know, great to prime time games. There might be some national narratives, but we've seen also what has happened with Vrable around Gillette, around New England, standing owes, things of that nature. It will definitely continue to be a narrative, but I still am under the belief that Vrable completely said everything to the team and that maybe that this is just stuff that is slowly coming up with the team is well aware. And hearing stuff like that from Drake may from other players on the team. And Christian Gonzalez also was asked about it at a charity softball game and he basically echoed the same sense of me like, hey, we're all behind our coach, which we are. And so hopefully we can get the football once July. Okay, and Tyrese on that note, your franchise player, everything you say could potentially be used against you in the court of law and also in the locker room. Okay, that is very real, especially as one of the most powerful people. Has there been an instance where you had to learn about like, oh, the power of my words is really real? Or is that something that you're kind of naturally taught in basketball because it feels like you guys are all kind of deemed superstars in like high school, if that makes it. Do you have like media training coming in high school? Like, hey, everything you say is going to potentially sway how people are talking about our team. Oh, yeah, I think that's just media training in general. But I think at the same time, everything that we say as athletes can get twisted and construed in a different way for a headline. So understanding that. But I think when you're a franchise guy and any sport, basketball, football, hockey, baseball, that's just what comes to mind. That's just what comes with the territory. It's kind of the price you pay to live your dreams a little bit. Yeah, kind of just part of the job. Yeah. Like, here is a part of the job. There's some things that I've had to realize that are just a part of this particular job. Like, hey, and I just have to accept that this is what it is. Whenever I fire off a thought about somebody, okay, that person's going to hear it. And there's potentially going to be people that are friends with that person or else going to hear it. So now I start mini-war with, you know, 30 people. It's like, okay, I have to kind of realize that that is what comes with the territory. You as leader for the Pacers, great job, brother. Great job. Yeah, I'm a very unbelievable job. With some theatrics too. Big time. Is that why you're talking so positive about this debate tomorrow? What do you mean? What are you talking about? What do you want to see this? I thought everybody wants to see this debate tomorrow. Who is everybody? Everybody. Everybody I talk to. To be honest, I've not talked to anybody about it. But me personally, excited to watch those two go to work. I like public speakers. So I like watching people do their thing. They're going to play the hits. What do you think the topic is going to be? What do you think the first topic is going to be? Definitely Bronn first because Lakers played. Okay, so we got to talk about it. Hey, where are we 10 years later? Where do we find ourselves? You know, in the entire LeBron conversation, excited to see where it goes. A couple twists and turns. Shake Hornets going to be in there guiding the entire ship. And then where do we go next? NFL? Straight to Cowboys? Nope. Where? Maybe to the greatest quarterback of all time that's ever thrown a football. Aaron Rodgers. Yep. Oh, I don't know if Aaron Rodgers can be number two. I love that right there. I love Aaron too. He's the goat. He is not the goat. What's going on? Aaron's the goat. Aaron's the goat. Aaron's the goat and he's maybe back to lead a Super Bowl. Okay, well. For who? I like that. I like that. You heard what he's been like over the last, since the draft? I haven't. Okay, since the draft, he has sat in that seat right there with that microphone right in front of him and said, Aaron Rodgers needs to get the hell out of Pittsburgh. That is what he has said. Yes. He has said numerous times. Is he a friend of the show? Yes. He's a good friend of the show. Not anymore. Like you just said, the media, taking my words and construing the new media show in a way. I just said that, you know, I love that he's sitting back and let Will Howard get some reps to make him progress as a quarterback. Maybe the future of the Steelers. I like that he wants to know if the refs are going to be real rest for the season because he doesn't want to come back and play with your bro and your refs. You know, maybe, maybe I'd like that he was waiting for the next pandemic to come back. Okay. And he needed to come back and do that. But no, I mean, this guy deserved to take, he's 22 years, four time MVP, Super Bowl winner. He deserved to take some time. Wow. This is unbelievable here. Just come out of your mouth. This is crazy, isn't it, AJ? It's why it's like it's a completely different person sitting over there now. Yeah, really change a tune if you will. We grow in the other way. I don't understand what you guys are doing. Try to do. Sounds like you're back pedaling right now. Feels like you're playing a little defense here. You know it's not me. And why is that? Well, there's a lot of ports coming out of Pittsburgh. Okay. Mixed reports. Mixed reports. Dorn Dickerson, morning radio show, former pit football player, NFL football player, stud, legend, cool guy. Dorn Dickerson has stayed around Pittsburgh and does media. He reported this morning that Aaron Rogers was going to be traveling to Pittsburgh to kind of get it all sorted out. Shout out to Dorn doing that. Shout out to 93 seven. The fan used to be B94. Yeah, sick. John, Dave and Bobby Shelley. So good. I mean, just playing the hits. Just top. Hell yeah. Just talk about all that. You know, so many good times of B94. Now it's 93 seven. The fan because sports are really the only thing to carry anything anymore. Shout out to Dorn doing that. He reported his source says town of Marrow is coming in doing the entire deal. Then there's a car report coming saying, well, if that's happening, nobody told Steeler's from Mark Kiboli, who has been reporting for the Steelers for a long time. He is by title are Steelers correspondent by title. He is. We're in constant communication. We talk to him every morning. We love Mark. We love Mark do this thing. I'm pretty hands off leader. Mark just kind of does this thing. I'm thankful he's still doing his thing. He says Steeler's have no idea what you're talking about. So then there's a little bit of a whoa, whoa, whoa. Aaron Rodgers stuff happening. Then Ian Rapoport comes out and goes, actually Aaron Rodgers who is expected to visit Steeler's Friday this week and will likely play for them in 2026. A deal is not done and there is always caution until things are signed. But Rodgers plan is to play for Pittsburgh and these are the steps towards that end. Okay. So that was after it was like kind of re rebutted, I guess. And then he comes out and says that what it sounds like, especially for rapid play. Especially for Rapoport's reporting this is Aaron's going to Pittsburgh tomorrow. Sounds like he's probably doing what everybody in the Steelers organization seemingly has expected, which is come back and play. And now telling Diggs AJ, Yinser Steeler diehard fan has to walk back everything he has said since the draft as he was just echoing the Yinser statement. Well said Patrick. Okay. Is what he was saying. But with that being the case, it's like Yinsers were getting sick and tired of waiting around and being held hostage. I think that's kind of like, hey, we're the Pittsburgh Steelers here. If this guy doesn't want to play for us, what are we doing? Last year, he's never been in the building, never been with a guy. Cool. This year, it's been in the building. He knows the head coach. He knows a lot of the people in there. He knows exactly what it's going to be like. We're the Pittsburgh Steelers. Can you at least have a little bit of respect for who we are? That is how Yinser started feeling. Okay. We, I think multiple times I mentioned, this guy's committed his whole life to football. It's probably a pretty big time decision on whether or not he wants to do it. Now it sounds like we're getting closer to a resolution. And I think Yinsers fans, just like Tone, will do exactly what Tone did, which is like, he was the best option all along. We'll get another year. I think that's how it'll go. You think Aaron understands that? And what do you think the validity of all this is, AJ? Yeah, I do wonder what the validity is. And it sounds like they, whether Aaron is in town, he's coming in town soon. They act like he's going to sign at some point here in the near future, whatever that means, like near future. What is that? Three weeks, four weeks? I don't know. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's weekend? Yeah. Who knows? Yeah, there's no telling what could happen. I would hate if anyone took, you know, all of Tone's takes about this are on camera and recorded somewhere. I would hate if someone cut those together, you know, made a little mashup of Tone flip-flopping on this whole situation. That would not do well for Tone, I feel like. But if Aaron comes back and he wins games and they take some on a deep playoff run, no one cares and none of them, no one remembers this. Big go. We do have to act accordingly though. And what Tone was trying to tell you, Tyrese, about your words being taken out of context and misconstrued. What the video that AJ is kind of encouraging somebody to put together to make, it would not be like that at all. No. I mean, he was rude to Aaron Rodgers. I mean, it was just. Bar for bar. Why did you do that? If AJ thinks that would be bad for my character, he's got another thing coming. That'd be great for me. Because I went on the same merry-go-round last year. I did the same hokey-pokey-pokey dance. Oh, really? You're doing a polka over there? When Aaron was taking his time until July last year, I was doing the same thing. If you don't want to play it for us, you don't want to play it for us. Well, once you become, once you put your name on that line and you're wearing black and gold, we're family, brother. That's just how it works. Okay? Brothers fight. Brothers can disagree. Once we're on the same team, once we're fighting that same war, okay? We're together. You, professional athlete, need to understand that this is how some humans, most humans, probably operate actually. We're family, brother. Yeah. All right. All right. Speaking of family, it feels like we have a friend of the program, okay, from the Chicago Cubs after yesterday's conversation. We were incredibly lucky that we got a chance to chat with him after he signed his mega deal, his first mega deal with the Chicago Cubs. And we were also lucky that we got a chance to watch him work. We created a new segment about it, actually called Life's Good. Pete Crow Armstrong is standing on top of the world. Let's just do a quick rundown of his last couple of months, shall we? Okay. He becomes hero and everybody's bummed out that he's not playing in the finals. And if he was playing in the finals, we probably win is our overall thought about this guy coming out of world baseball class. Well, everybody else loses world baseball classes and everybody's bummed out about it. Pete Crow Armstrong actually comes out and a lot of our minds go, hey, who knows what would happen if we would have Pete Crow Armstrong out there. So kind of an upbeat. Then signs a mega deal, signs a monster deal. This kid's 23, 24 years old, whatever it is, signs a huge deal. They go on a 10 game win streak at the beginning of the season. Now they're currently on an eight game win streak because him last night bottom of the ninth full count, no way down to man on first. Oppo Pete Crow Armstrong couldn't fathom how that had to feel. Golf and one out on the bottom of the ninth tied up in Chicago. He mentioned us yesterday that there was an hour and a half delay in 34,000 people were still in the game. And I want to say look at that crowd on a Wednesday night in the bottom of the ninth in a game in which they are losing. Chicago's going crazy. PCA is deferring to everybody else as being a hero as opposed to himself. Feels like they got something special. It does feel like that lovable reunion. Yeah, it does. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now as a person who might be able to give us a little bit more insight and detail on all of it. The senior baseball insider in face for us and our generation, ladies and gentlemen from ESPN, Jeff Passett. Love the shirt. Love the shirt. John Shambi and Project Main Street going toward Lou Gehrig's day. It's such a good cause and this is available by the way in every team color. So you can find it online and I would encourage everyone to get a shirt like this in the meantime. May I just say, tone, why are you just so constantly full of shit? Like, Oh, Oh, Yeah. And L.A. A. L.S. shirt. Incredible. Now it's pivoted to something else. This guy in a cowboy hat never stops lying. It's kind of in the water where we're from and then I'm just naturally a spineless chameleon. Whatever is best for me. He became a cowboy because he got COVID, which who knows what's next potentially. He went into a COVID hole isolation. He watched Kevin Costner be a cowboy in Montana. He came out on the other side and showed up at work in a cowboy hat and we've literally never seen him in anything else since then. So when you talk about kind of going with the wind tone is that but he was a good indicator of how Pittsburgh felt about Aaron though, I think, because we talked to a lot of people that are kind of sick of the waiting and allegedly, that's going to end this weekend via mixed reports. Better. But now he's family. Now he's family. So it's all good. Yeah, get on with it. What don't you understand? Just like Rapoli at the Kentucky Derby. I said a lot of bad things about you. Okay. Family. Family one today. That's what tones do Aaron. Let's talk a little bit about what the Chicago Cubs have going on. Eight game win streak now. I guess all of their pictures are hurt. This P. Crow Armstrong kid is so cool on our show. Sherman Oaks, California bra whenever he comes on. Very, very humbled. Deferred to everybody else is being awesome, but they're also in the middle of a great win streak. And it feels like if the Cubs are good, that's good for baseball as a whole jet or no. Oh, it's great when the Cubs are good. And it's great. Just the atmosphere at Wrigley Field right now. They won 14 straight games there. And, you know, Wrigley already is a fun place to go watch a baseball game. But getting to watch a team like this, what I love about the Cubs is that they are so good at everything. They are the best defensive team in baseball. And you go not just up the middle with P. Crow Armstrong in center field, Nico Horner, maybe the best defensive second baseman in baseball. Danzby Swanson has been incredible at shortstop and the catchers they've got back there as well. But you go out to the corners. They're fantastic there too. They put the ball in play. They hit for power. Their lineup is good one through nine. And whether it's Nico Horner up at the top or a guy like Moises Baesteroes who's come up and really been huge at DH for them this year. The Cubs are, I'm not going to say they're a great team yet, guys, but they have potential to be great. And if they can, whether at the trade deadline, go out and get an arm or get some of their guys healthy, they have a chance to be a real problem in October and a real thorn in the Dodger's side. I love everything about it. I love anytime great environments are happening for sports in the middle of the week. It feels like Wrigley 14 straight is going to continue to be that. And we love this P. Crow Armstrong guy. And I love anytime the Reds lose. Turns out I've had a great six time. They've lost six straight Reds fan. AJ has a question for you, Jet. Yeah, I do jet jet. You know, the Reds run a little bit of a slide, but that doesn't matter. We know it's May 7th. We got plenty of time to make it up. But I wanted to pivot. What's the plan for Shohei going forward? What's the rest of the season look like for him? I know there's all this back and forth where he's pitching, hitting. What am I doing? Both are just going to be individual picture. What's going on here? What is the rest of the season look like you think for the Dodgers and for Shohei? I think they want Shohei Otani to pitch a full season for the first time in almost half a decade now. And look, the last time Shohei Otani was a full time pitcher and through 160 plus innings, he had his worst offensive season, you know, in the last five, six years. And I'm not saying that pitching as much as he is, is directly affecting him at the plate. I don't ever doubt anything with Shohei Otani anymore. I don't doubt that he can do both at a high level, but we've seen through the years that when he's pitching and when he's focusing as much on it as he is right now, the hitting does tend to suffer a little bit. And that's okay. Shohei Otani, it's May 7th, like you said, he's still got an ERA under one at this point. He's been absolutely brilliant this year. And the Dodgers have enough thump in their lineup where when Mookie Betz is back and, you know, a couple other guys get hitting, they're going to be just fine. They, you know, the Braves have a better record than them right now. The Yankees, the Rays, the Cubs all better record than the Dodgers. The Dodgers are still the overwhelming favorite to win the World Series this year just because they're not a fully formed team yet. They still don't have Blake Snellback. They're missing Mookie Betz. They're missing Ed Wendee as like real stars who are going to make them that much better when they get back. Okay. So they got some thumping or giddy up over there. Fair. You know, so Shohei gets a little cold for a little bit while he's pitching. Who cares? One, two for four last night. And then also there was this moment, especially with the team that is known for this. Allegedly. Now the internet has a conspiracy that this sweeper that just broke Alteve by an Alteve in one swing of a bat. Somebody on the internet and AI probably helped did have Alteve swing and Alteve. And I think he's still short. So that's how far he missed the strikes out last week. Then there was people starting to cook up a conspiracy that Jose was told a fastball was coming. So he's going to swing it, whatever. And then that's why Shohei gone down because he said, oh, you think you're smarter than me? Yeah, right. Is there any truth to all of that? How much is that happening? Because remember, we all remember the garbage can exoskeleton rumor, like all the shit that got crazy with the sign steal. How much of that is still happening? And is there a chance that this is what took place in this particular situation? There is a chance that that's what took place. I don't know that definitively as for sign stealing. It's extremely prevalent. And you know, you saw it a couple of days ago, right? Runner on second base for the Boston Red Sox and Framberville Des is tipping pitches from his glove. Like when you have a guy on second base, he is trying so hard to look in. And when you're looking at the glove, right, think about it, I'm going to turn around. Think about it from this perspective. When you're looking at the glove, what you're looking for is his grip on the pitch. And when you see what his grip on the pitch is, that's when you can signal it. It happens any number of ways, you know, a little helmet tap, something on the leg. You can signal it to the player at the plate in any way that you want. You know, you thought that pitch calm was going to get rid of sign stealing. No, it's baseball. Pat and in major league baseball, you are going to do everything you possibly can to get every little marginal advantage you can. And, you know, sometimes it's as simple as tipping a pitch and you're holding it like this. And that's an interesting point because, you know, if a player or if a pitcher is holding his glove like this for a fastball and tilts it that little for when he's throwing a breaking ball, teams will pick that out. Teams will find that and they use markerless motion capture now, right? So you have these cameras that have guys, essentially they're limbs on a screen and the markerless motion capture can look and see what the difference is with the guy's glove. And that right there is using technology where in the past it just had to be guys with their eyes figuring it out. Yeah, no idea. It was a curveball. Nobody knew that was curveball. That was curveball the whole time from here. Had my fingers on it all the way through the leverage. Yep. The momentum spot. The point. All the way through that. Pat, I actually saw it because the tip of the ball was out there and if you were throwing a fastball, your index finger would have been out. No, I didn't see shit yet. You didn't see shit out there, Jet. Baseball's numbers. You suck and you tip and I will take you deep, McAfee. Oh, that's all I'm saying. Passive. You don't know that. You should see me getting to work on this mound right here, right here on this bump. I'm throwing wiffleballs at that strike zone over there every day. I found my slug. I'm a little bit down here. I'm a little bit down here. You know what that good, like that's an impressive, that's a tough way to throw a wiffleball. You got the slider action going on. You throwing a little splitty. Yeah, a little bit of one of those skis here. I don't know where it's going yet, but once I figure that out, it will be lethal and I'm certainly going to work on that. Ratings for baseball up into the right. Tell me about it, Jet. All the rules changes, obviously huge. And we were just talking to Matthew Kitchock about the NHL. Obviously hockey ratings are up as well. I think the Olympics helped hockey. I think the World Baseball Classic helped baseball. I also think sport is good right now. You agree with that? And what is kind of the talk behind the scenes amongst you, big J journalists about the boom that baseball is currently having? It's great to see because I think people are finally catching on that baseball is fun and baseball is interesting and baseball is regular season, even though it's six months long and feels interminable at some point. There's so much parody in the game right now. This is a wild stat pat. We are what is it? May 7th, May 8th? We're May 7th right now. There are 10 teams in all of baseball over 500 and five of them are from the National League Central. Half the teams over 500 in MLB right now reside in one division and that one division, which for the longest time was looked at as almost a comedy show. The NL Central is ruling baseball this year. So I think every every fan, except for a couple teams, actually feels like their team is in it. The Chicago White Sox right now are within striking distance of first place. And this was a team that was just, you know, two years ago, they lost more games than any team in baseball history. And here they are now. And it all informs to me the expiration of the collective bargaining agreement on December 6th, 2036. Don't do it. No, I want to bring it up because I think every time I come on here, I want to point out baseball is in a good place right now. And they could screw this thing up badly. And every indicator of the game at this point would seem to suggest that it is going in the right direction and that fans are responding to it. And that owners, I understand why owners want a salary cap. I get it completely. But if that's the thing that's going to take baseball off the field and potentially ruin this momentum that the game has right now. The ultimate in cutting off your nose despite your face. Yeah, I like that. Just. And then. And then maybe even the back of them too. Oh, killies. Oh, yeah. Sorry. You're not. Sorry. I'm not even. You're not. You're not. That's nothing to do with you. I just. My God. He said he tried to say your must beforehand though. We should have tried to get that. We apologize that you had to hear that word around you and just know that yours going to be stronger than ever. Don't be scared of the word, man. I'm not scared of the word. Free to guess like that. That's rude. That felt like a dig. No. I genuinely. That's okay. It's just if you're shooting the back of your legs, that is where you would. That's where it would be. The back of their legs. The back of the foot. The back of the foot would be what? Would be the killies. Yeah. Shoot through the heel you could have said. The slight. Also would be. Shoot. What's that? What's that? You have to slice it with a machete or something. It could be tough to shoot it. No. No. No. No. No. No. We don't have a machete. Remember, there is a stat. What is it? All serial killers come from. Ohio. Midwest and or Caucasian. Indiana. A.J. No. No. A.J. You fit the bill. A.J. Old machetes. So do you, Jett. A.J. A.J. Things like that will certainly sound some alarms. A.J. If you're doing that, I think. No. A machete. Check out his pets died. Disgusting. That was kind of crazy. Last question for you, Jett, about the baseball. Go ahead, Ty. No, it wasn't. All right. Let's say there's a hypothetical, Jeff. There's just a hypothetical. It's not real. Who knows if it's real. Friend of yours. Yeah. Friend of mine. Friend of mine. Let's say he's a baseball free agent. Doesn't have any team. He just likes the sport. He's trying to find a team. And he gets invited to throw the first pitch for Chicago Cubs. As well as the Los Angeles Dodgers. Which one do you think would be the right choice? Is a friend of yours? A friend of mine. Yeah. Yeah. See if Ty's does. It's a great question. And it depends on what your priorities are and what your level of being willing to take grief from other fan bases is. If all you care about is winning and you don't care that people look down on you for it. If you want to pull, let's say the Kevin Durant move, then you go with the Dodgers. If however you want history and you want, you know, being a Cubs fan, being a Cubs fan can be hard. They spent a century without a World Series. It's almost like struggle and strife are built in to that organization and to be in a fan. And here's the thing. The likelihood of the Cubs winning World Series is a lot lower than the Dodgers just because the resources that the Dodgers ownership puts in as compared to the Cubs. But both have great stadiums, both have great histories. And it's just a matter of if you're a Dodgers fan, you kind of look like a bandwagon jumper. But that's okay because you're getting rings. If you are a Cubs fan, then you are in it for the struggle and for the time at the ballpark as much as anything. I appreciate that. I'll pass that along to my friend. It sounds like there was some bias. I hope your friend makes a sound decision. What about the Brewers? Well, it sounds like you're pretty biased in this entire thing, though, the way you're giving your advice to his friend that this is certainly for at this exact time. No, there's no bias at all. You could be just a punk. That's what you want to do. Or you can be a part of a good fan base that's had to go through some stuff. No, the Dodgers fan base is fantastic. They just get worn out by everyone else in baseball. It's essentially like being a Yankees fan back in the 90s. You know, when you have the most resources, when you have the best player in the world, when you're excellent, everything you do, which that franchise is, you're going to wear it a little bit. I'll tell you what. Zito, obviously a Chicago Cubs fan, also good with the graphics, he said, what do you think? Well, if this is for you and not for a friend, obviously you put your friend in here as opposed to just you, what do you think? You know, which one? I mean, look happier on the left. Yeah, but look at the right. They're kind of super cool. He knows he's going to win it all on the right. Yeah, super cool on the right side. You're going to have to have the, I think you're going to have to have the hat backwards there because you're going to be doing a lot of jousting with people telling you that you guys are cheating and deferring payments for 14 years from now and able to pay everybody on earth. And you just win all the time on the, on this side, you're like, H straight. Good one PCA. Go up to Wrigley. Wrigley, they say is a great time. There's a bunch of bars right outside of Wrigley. So cool. They said it's a blast. What about the team where if, let's hypothetically say it's that friend lives in Indianapolis and the AAA team is for the pirates? What about why not throw up first pitch for the pirates? What if he didn't get invited? Oh boy. All right, stop. How did Garong get invited to all these different first pitches? It's crazy. All right, ladies and gentlemen, that's Inside Joke. You're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, Jet Pass. Jet. Is it wrong? Is he going to be out there with you? Why would the Dodgers play with you? I wore the Dodgers jersey. Oh, so the Dodgers like, hey, would you like to come out? And you said, actually, I don't have a baseball team. They're like, oh, do you want to throw the first pitch? Actually, they'll probably have a full setup for you too. Oh my God, you're going to get so many Dodger dogs in the back that they're going to create a Halleberger, I assume, for you out there in LA. Meet Shohei, have a full conversation in English with Justin. Like it happened. Well, so why'd you immediately say in English? Do you speak Japanese as well or not? I do not. No, it's just Clay encouraged us on the program that he knows English much better than he lets off to be. Why does that matter? Because you would think, like in your head, well, if I go to the Dodgers game and be the first pitch, then maybe I won't actually get to touch the Shohei, so it would be kind of a let down. But in reality, just so we all know, he could have a full conversation with him, so he wouldn't be let down. OK, well, hopefully I get a chance to have a full conversation with Shohei in Japanese and also in English. Double. As a go, don't worry about Ohio. See, what was that? What did you say? It's that the only language I know is Spanish, so I said C. Yeah, but see, that's why we have depth. How many different languages are being spoken? How many languages will Stephen and Skip speak tomorrow? You know French and Japanese and un poquito español. I'm fluent in Spanish. As you know, he's fluent in Spanish. He knows Irish. We've got a fashion designer here. I know Irish. I know Latin. I know also a little bit of Mandarin. Yes. He's been to China. Shishini. Ni hawa. Yeah. Way. Your turn. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who knows all things about all things. He is an Emmy Award winner. He is a guy who showcases sports in such a beautiful fashion. Formerly a VenomFel network in Fox. Now ESPN. Ladies and gentlemen, friend of the program, Peter Schrager. Yes. Peter Schrager. Yes. Peter Schrager. Yes. Peter Schrager. Yes. Peter Schrager. Yes. Peter Schrager. Yes. Peter Schrager. Yes. Peter Schrager. Yes. Peter Schrager. Yes. Peter Schrager. Yes. Peter Schrager. Yes. Peter Schrager. I like that. Woo hoo. Siegelman stable. They got good ponies. Oh yeah. Yeah. That's the one. Yeah. I like that. I like what we're doing here. Repping the mix. Hey, every time we talk about celebrities making appearances at Madison Square Garden, we always say, Peter Schrager's in the building as well. You know, he's got eyes on. Greeny was court side. Greeny was court side. Schrager doesn't get court side. No. I am in a different spot. I'm usually with a pal and we're sitting in the 200s and we're just going blue collar, grinding it out. Greeny though. I'll give Greeny credit though. And Halliburton, I love that he's here because he broke my heart in a million ways last year in that series. Greeny, there's a little sneaky thing here. At halftime, all the celebrities, they run off to this thing called the Delta Club and they come in the third quarter with like six minutes left and it's obnoxious. You see these empty seats and for all the celebrities, they're out there hobnobbing. Greeny was in his seat for the start of the second half and I texted him. I said, you're legit. I'm here. Let's go. I love that Greeny did that on purpose too, by the way. He knew what the optics were. He's probably judged others for it in the past. Delta Club kind of sounds like a bop though. It kind of sounds like it's probably a great time. I couldn't imagine the food or the booze that are potentially available back there. Ty did tell us that he could feel your presence at those games. So even though you're up there in the 200s, Ty Reese said he could feel the Schrager energy with the lads. Before we dive into all the NFL news, let's talk about your next. Is this the year, Shraig? Is this the year you guys are going to go on a run? Is this the year that Jalen Brunson maybe finishes it? And we got a pulled hamstring, I do believe. Yeah. OG. Right at the end. We actually, in the last six minutes, our mutual friend, Shams Charania, just came out with a vague sort of good news update that after me not breathing for the first, you know, eight hours I've been awake today, we got this one here that it seems to be day to day, which I think is a lot better than out for the playoffs. I think we'll take that day to day. I'd like to hear that he's completely fine. I would love to hear your thoughts, but if you've been watching these nicks the last few weeks, there is no more valuable player than this man right here and no more beloved New York Nick. He does it all. He is so good on defense. He covers everyone. Paul George has been silenced this series because of how good OG has been on defense. And I just pray that he is healthy enough for this stretch run because he is one of one right now in the NBA. So from our sport, we could see a hamstring from a mile away. Everybody can. It did appear whenever he was coming around to pull and then even more pull later day to day. Tyrese, you were shaking your head. Why are you shaking your head? Just because the hamstring is so volatile. Oh, hamstrings, the worst. And he did that in our series. What, two years ago, too. And he's hamstring in that series as well. So that's not a day to day with a hamstring strain is a little, a little worrisome because it's a hamstring strain. So I would be worried. I'd be worried. I hope he's okay though. Well, and then Joel and Bede, he goes out because of hip and ankle. I do believe. Is that what it was? Yeah. And also, OG from that series as well. It was day to day. And remember, he like basically taped one on. He had like a makeshift hamstring and he kept playing. Yeah. And you, I think you had some injuries throughout the playoffs last year. And is it because you guys just running so much? It's like inevitable that somebody's going to get hurt in your guys' playoffs. Yeah. I mean, it's soft tissue. So I mean, the argument that people would make would be that we play too many games or whatever. But soft. This is that young. I would not make that argument. I like the games we play. I'm a fan. I'm not. Two days rest. Two days rest seems so quick. Like the quick turnaround here that these guys have to play. And I tell you, I have so much respect for that guy in the studio right now because I know he played through pain. Appreciate it. Both those series, but it's like, we, you know, all NBA, it's load management. We rest. We wait. And then an NBA playoffs, it's like every night they have a game. So it's a, you got to figure it out, man. All right. I appreciate strikes fandom. I like that. I like that. He just flew out here last year. He was willing to sit up in the last row. He said PG was silence last night. I thought PG played pretty well last night. I like the energy though. I like that. Keep it up. I feel like Paul George back in the playoffs. Yeah. I think he mentioned big shot. He airbubbed the big shot that he's looking at his teammate. Like what happened? No, no, that was you. You missed that shot. That's a real, that's a real Nick's. Things will happen. Yeah, buddy. Let's go ahead and put that blame on yourself. Little accountability. Love Paul George. Love Tyrese Maxi. Joel and Bede. One of these playing great. It's good to see the Sixers trusting the process for this long and trying to get a little shine. Great. Until the next just kind of go ahead and destroy him in front of Shraig. Let's go to some NFL news here quickly. Aaron Rodgers makes reports. He's going to Pittsburgh. What do you know? Have you known? And how do you feel about it all? This is the big story of the day. Don't feel obligated to give a full diet tribe if you've already unloaded on this 10 times because it seemingly is an everyday situation. But now we get some news. He's going this weekend, allegedly. Allegedly. And 93-7, the local radio station was the first to report that he was in town. It seems like Rappaport's confirming it. I'll tell you this. Speaking of Sealer sources, they're there for rookie minicamp today through the end of the weekend. And there's no sign of Aaron Rodgers yet. So I think we've learned that we don't start pegging Aaron Rodgers is going to do this, going to do that until Aaron Rodgers does this or does that. I have not been on the ground in Pittsburgh. I have not seen him flying in, but the local radio station and Rappaport has since confirmed it. And it's like the Loch Ness monster to me though. I don't, I've learned too many times until I see that guy in uniform or on site. I'm not putting anything in ink yet. I love it. Because remember last year there was a disguise in a Toyota Camry or something. Yeah, there's the poopy rental car. Yeah, I mean, this is sweet. He is a one of one type human. He is a one of one type quarterback. And what a situation is over there in Pittsburgh. I don't know if you heard Shraggs. Telling Diggs has been burying Aaron Rodgers since the draft because he talked to a bunch of people that have kind of given him the green light to do as such as the injures feel. And then this morning he hears Doran Dickerson on B94 the fan and he goes, I love Aaron. I'm so happy. I mean, completely flip flop. Let's move to some other news around the NFL that's happening. The Eagles promote Adam Barry, brother of Andrew Barry to assistant GM. Philadelphia Eagles always surrounded with some drama. Cleveland Browns also, is that what they said? Hey, you're the twin brother of the guy who had to deal with everything happening in Cleveland. You should be pretty good over here. And Philly, how have we not known that Andrew Barry has a twin brother that looks exactly like him in all of this? And why do you think Philadelphia did this? Well, Adam, Adam was actually, he's been there for a bit here and he actually used to work at Goldman Sachs at a very high level and they brought him over after Andrew was already established in the NFL. It's very funny though, because I've gotten to know Adam a little bit. I know Andrew and you'll be at the combine and they won't be wearing team issued gear. And the amount of times Adam Barry has to talk to a reporter or talk to someone who comes up to him and just assumes it's Andrew Barry, because they has no idea that Andrew Barry as a twin brother is innumerable. Now I think he's getting a little more spotlight. Very well respected within that building. And the last two years, they've lost two important voices. Jake Rosenberg, who was there and then Alec Halabi, who left this year. Two guys who were like, how are you, Rosemann's right hand man? These guys are gone. Adam Barry gets promoted. Of course, you saw Joe Douglas is going to have a bigger title there. He's a former GM of the Jets and of course a long time lieutenant in Chicago and in Baltimore and in Philly. And then I saw another one, Mike McCadden is apparently joining that Eagles front office. He used to be GM of the Jets as well. So how he is always looking for different voices and different guys, but Adam Barry has been a mainstay and now he gets that assistant GM job and his brother is the GM of the Cleveland Brown. And Big Dom gets a new deal too for all his jobs. That's right. Super security, super coaching stuff. Assistant GM stuff. He's a big Dom got an extension as well. Good to see that he's still going to be around. Let's talk about some other NFL news taking place. A little bit more spicy. Go ahead, Con man. Speaking of Edge Barry Shraig's, it was reported that allegedly the Browns are doing their homework on Swar'sby, the situation that's kind of unfolding down in Texas with the gambling. A lot of stuff still needs to get worked out, but him being kind of the first big name in the possible supplemental draft in a few years now. What are you kind of hearing on this situation? Do you expect him to be in the NFL next year if everything gets worked out legally and he doesn't have any more kind of right to play in college anymore? Do you think he could be one of those players that a team will give up a high pick for? And quick follow up on some precedent in this entire process. Yeah, I was reminded today that when this happened with when Terrell Pryor was suspended by the NCAA and he decided to go supplemental draft, he had a, it was a five or six game suspension with the NCAA and the NFL was like, you're not going to be a safe harbor. We're not going to be a safe harbor for players where you can just jump and we're not going to find your whatever suspend you. So then the NFL upheld the suspension for Terrell Pryor and also Jim Tressel, who was with the Colts at the time. So there's a situation here where the NFL could also suspend Swar'sby. Go ahead, Trent. Sorry, we just want to make sure we had all the intel out there. It's good. And I remember the Terrell Pryor deal. Remember that was for getting tattoos at a shop and he had to pay such a price for that. If you look back in hindsight now, how ridiculous that was for Terrell Pryor. You look at this one, this is an interesting deal because there will be interest in him in the supplemental draft. We don't see the supplemental draft utilized too often, especially for a quarterback. There will be interest as far as the Browns go. I would take the meme of the dog with the laser just like looking at Brown's fans anytime a quarterback that can even throw a ball. That's how they act as far as that is. I'm told Browns right now, Swar'sby's name has not been in the conversation. Rather, they're focused on what they have in house at the moment. And that is a Deshaun Watson revival. That is a Shaddour Sanders. Can you do it again? Can you get back on the field and can you win this job? And they are so ecstatic about their draft that they had this past last couple of weeks that the Browns like, I don't know if Swar'sby being dropped into it is an actual legitimate thing right now. We'll see. I think that's a good point. The NFL is going to have a say in this as well. But a fascinating, unprecedented topic now in the NIL era, especially in this whole gambling, pro-gambling world that we live in. Tyrese, don't be gambling on shit. No, don't. I've never gambled on a sport. Smart. I like that. Beast. Hey. A little bit of blackjack though. Certainly got to play. Certainly have to play. Especially if somebody else is putting up all the money for it. Yeah. That was a really cool time. For sure. Very nice of that person. Yes, it was. A lot of money. Jell-A-Roll gave us a shit ton of money to gamble on. Jell-A-Roll? So much money. I sat down and never been a part of this. This is after you try to break my neck. He was trying to apologize to me. Sure. He was trying to apologize to me. I think he was trying to be kind. Hey, won't you come over? I sat down. There's just so much chips. So many chips in front of me. So many chips in front of me. What is this? Is this like show chips? No, those are your chips. Oh, there's a lot of pressure here. Got back to even with him. Shove those over before we won and saw Tony fucking Yale in 50 cents. That was a great Vegas. I mean, we did it. Yeah, we had a time. I think we did. Yeah. Too bad you were on the side of the wrong side of fucking wrestling. There you were. Cody Crab baby. Son of a bitch. Thank you, Connor. He won. Your dad was mad about it and you were happy. And that's what I don't like about it all. You know what I mean? Because I was on your side. I was fighting for you against people that are megastars. People that have generated six billion at the box office. People that are notorious for being sports fans while also being super geniuses. Not just in comedy. How about we drop severance on your ass? Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now. A man who I fought for you with Ben Stiller. Yeah, Ben. How you doing, Ben? How are you guys? Good. Good. Nice to be here. Dude, it's an honor to have you. Obviously, I'm 39 years old. So you understand with your demographic now out in the world. You supplied our lives with a lot of incredible shit. So we appreciate you so much. Now, on that note, I also respect the fact that you are sports fan. You are Die Hard Nick's fan. They're in. They're out. When the Met Gala happens, we got to talk about it, Ben. We have to. We didn't want to do it. We didn't have to do it. How was that decision for you? And honestly, what are you doing throughout the entire year? Are you watching game on phone? Like how do you kind of balance all of that? Yeah, it was a tough one. It was a tough one for me. And, you know, it's been a really interesting experience because I didn't even think anybody really would care that much about whether or not I was there or not, you know, in terms of like the reaction to it. Yeah, Ben, you're Ben Stillerlong. Ben, you're at every game, Ben. I know. You're a synonymous with the team. But can I tell you what happened? Yeah. But it triggered something for it's been an interesting learning experience for me as a fan because I've had to process this like the reaction and how people sort of react, you know, knowing what the circumstances are in the context of it all, which, you know, I mean, like I can't explain the context to everybody in the world. So for me as a fan, I wanted to be at that next game more than anything. Have to be. I had an ob and I basically in my life, you know, the last, you know, season or so I've tried to work my professional work life around the Knicks and all the way through to making sure that as this playoff run happens and this final run, you know, could possibly happen that I'm making sure that I am going to be there. But this this Met Gala thing was something I had a friend of mine invited us three months ago. And as the dates were coming up, of course, you don't know what the playoff dates are going to be as they come up. And about a week before I started to see this because I thought I thought of every other permutation in terms of clear during my schedule for playoff games. And this was there. And honestly, it was a very good friend who got the table who I felt I would be as a friend, it would be lame to cancel on our friend who we don't see for this thing. Now, no, position, Ben, position, Ben, that's a tough spot for you. The way the world doesn't care. And I get it. So all I tried to do is I say, OK, we're going to wear our Knicks colors. I'm going to try it. I'm going to have my phone. I'm going to be, you know, Anna Winkler doesn't like when people are watching their phones at the Met Gala. You know, she wants everybody's attention to be there, which I understand. I was watching the game checking on it, but it was really, really tough. And I said to Christine the night before I said, I think I'm going to get some shit for this. And, you know, it's a it's an I don't know what to do about it. And she said, look, let's we have to do it's our friend. We're going to make that we made this commitment. There's nothing to do. We can't cancel thought about canceling. And I said, I can't do it. Now, Ben, I would like to let you know you're a good friend, great friend. You getting shit is a compliment because I think we think you're like a part of the sports like we, you know what I mean? Like that's a compliment more than anything. Again, yeah. Again, I didn't think it would be such a hubba, but I also understand that people need stuff to talk about right the morning radio show. It's like, oh, yeah, all of us. Yeah, everybody needs that. You're Ben Stiller. That's why it's such a big deal. And also you are synonymous with this team. Like you coming out to Indiana, you flying to Indiana for these games. Come on. So much respect for it. It's like you have been synonymous with this next team. You, Timmy, everybody literally. Timmy didn't help go into the game. Yeah. Timmy, Timmy. Well, that was the thing. The fact that that he decided to not go. And by the way, I don't get invited to the Met Gala. Timmy gets invited to the Met Gala every year. I've been the last time I was invited was 10 years ago by the same friend who bought the table and we went with him 10 years ago. And then I went once before like 20 years ago. I'm not that guy. So the irony was I said to Christine, I hope Timmy's also going to the Met Gala. And of course he wasn't. And then I was like, all right. Well, then we wanted to. And then my, then the thing that it. Yeah. No, go ahead. I just wanted to say the thing that it triggered them became this competition. The competition thing of like who is the, you know, the more die hard Nick's fan. Right. And that for me, that was interesting because I realized that I had to be okay with the fact that you don't, you're not a fan to be in competition with other fans or to prove to people you're a fan. You're a fan because you love the team. So I had to live with the fact that I know that's, I think I even tweeted like, I know what I, who I have. I know. We have respect for that. We know that too. You need to know that my ego, like I'm the best big man. It's like, it's not a competition. We all love the Knicks who, you know, people love the Knicks. So I couldn't, I had to let my ego get out of the way for them. Okay. Well, I appreciate you doing that. I appreciate you having to have that conversation. I also appreciate the fact that like this is sports man. You're like so in sports. Like you are a sports person and you know, we, so we like that. So the fact that, you know, people shit talking you, you becoming synonymous with a team, whenever there's a celebration happening, guess who's ass is going to be in a parade. Oh yeah. Your ass wanted as well. I think it's a, it's a great thing. And it's because we all have so much respect for everything you've accomplished. You know, it's fucking everywhere. Can we dive into that? We're still live on YouTube. We're no longer, you go comedy, comedy, comedy, comedy, comedy, comedy. Okay. Sports always your whole life. And you know, you're not going to be in a competition. You're not going to be in a competition.哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎 guys running on the field, Yankee Stadium, taking the B train with my friends. I was there when Reggie hit the three home runs. I had a piece of right field in my bedroom that I ripped up from, I think, the 78 series, the championships series. So Yankees were my thing when I was a kid. Then I kind of, and the Knicks, I was a big, as a teenager, big Bernard King fan. There was a guy named Mike Glenn on the Knicks. I don't know if you know it, Stinger Mike Glenn, an incredible three-point shooter played for the Hawks. He was my favorite player back in the day. Then I moved to LA from, I'd say, like, 92 to like 2010. And my fandom was there, but not as intense. And I never became a Lakers fan or an LA fan, always a Knick fan, but just from afar during the 94-99 run. Then I moved back to New York in 2010. And that's when I was like, oh my god, I'm back in New York. I can take my son to Knicks games, like my dad. Because my dad took me to Knicks games in 73, 74. I mean, I literally saw those teams. A lot of stories about that. Like Michael Cole, our friend from over there, who's WWE. He talks about his dad had him in the arena watching the Knicks. And it feels like with so many people, the Knicks are who everybody likes. And I know the Nets kind of did their thing for a little bit there. But the Knicks, seemingly, and the Yankees, even though the Mets are spending a lot of money. But the Knicks are like the entire city's kind of team. You getting a chance to showcase that, I think, is good. Can you tell me about your brain, though? That other part of the question? I guess sports doesn't really help it out much. Can you tell me about your fucking brain? Do you have thoughts going all the time? Is it tough to sleep? How do you get into these such radically different spaces? Legit. You smoking weed? You doing ayahuasca? You doing what is your shit? You on DMT? All of you. Oh. Yeah, amen. I'm basically, sports is a great outlet, right? And what I don't like, which I'm sure you feel as a fan, too, is when you care about a team that much, when they get to the point where they're not going to get to the next step when they lose, finally, it's really painful and not fun. And that thing of like, it's fun, fun, fun, but then it always has to end. So for me, it's a great outlet and a diversion. It's become much more since the Knicks have become better in the last four or five years to watch that and then to have that history of all the years of them not being good. Because I'll watch every game every season. I watch every game because I'm into it. But when you start to see them actually doing well, it becomes so much more exciting because you have like 50 years of history there. Yeah, absolutely. Can you tell me about your brain? Not good. Let's go. Let's talk about the brain. Let's talk about the brain. Let's talk about. Let's talk about getting. My brain is, I do go. I do go. Yeah, Pat, I do go. For me, I love to be working on whatever project I'm working on or we have a few different projects. So creatively, I'm always, yeah, I enjoy that. That's my relaxation is doing something that I feel is creative for me. OK, I know. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Ben, Severance. I mean, Pat mentioned it. I think it's like the greatest show on TV right now. And it feels like if you land the plane here, it could be just one of the greatest shows of all time with Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, those types of shows. Where did it come from? Where was that idea originated? When you first thought of it, was it something where you kind of had like a five season arc? Was it something where you knew, hey, it's starting here? It'll be in the middle here and end here? No, I mean, this was a script that came into us by a writer named Dan Erickson, who had sent it as a spec script. A spec script is a script that the writer will send as a sample so you can have a meeting to maybe do something else. And I read the spec script and I was like, this is amazing. And we had the meeting. I said, is anybody making this? So this was like eight years ago or nine years ago. And he had never had anything produced. And so we connected and we started working together on building it. And it's been an amazing experience. It became my full time job for like the last five years or so doing it. And I was never never been happier working on something. So I can't take credit for it, but the building out of the world and the collaboration of all the different departments and our cinematographer productions on our costumes, everybody kind of came together on it. And we're lucky enough to have the freedom to make it. Yeah, home run. That's because you're Ben fucking stiller. Go ahead, AJ. You can make whatever you want. Yeah, you can't. Everything you make is gold. But can we get back to the Met Gala? We see you guys walking up the stairs. We see the costumes, the outfits, everybody's wearing. What the hell actually goes on the monster inside? Yeah, that's a good question. Yeah, yeah, that's a good question. Basically, you go in and once they take your phone and they cover up your phone so you can't take pictures. You want to go back? Yeah, or like a little sticker. And then you kind of do this tour. It's for the Costume Institute. They raise money to support the Costume Institute. So it's designers who have done these different exhibits and fashion designs related to the art at the Met. And it's pretty amazing. And you sort of mingle around. And then it's weird because you see people that you would never see in real life, like Mark Zuckerberg. Or people like, and you're like, OK. And you just kind of have. And then all of a sudden there's like a faceless nun with a metal plate on her face. And it turns out, 20 minutes later, you're like, oh, that was Katy Perry. I just didn't know because she didn't. It's so weird. It's just weird. And you just like try to find somebody you know. And then get through it. And then basically there's like mingling. And then mingling in another room. And then you go and have dinner in the Temple of Dendur room where that temple is. And like the Egyptian temple where they built out of. It's like this giant wing of the museum that's been there for like 30 years. And then after dinner there's a show. A show, like a fashion show. And you're walking your ass up there like the good old times. No, no, no. Musical performance. And Sabrina Carpenter played. And then BD Nyx got up, I guess, and played also. But honestly, we left a little bit early before that. Yeah, but you would say had a great time mingling, looking, seeing, enjoying. You had a blast. Left early to finish the next game. Honestly, the best time was being with our friend Johnny who invited us and being sitting and seeing. Because I don't see him that often. That was the reason we went. That was like to be there and connect with him. Hey, can the next one at this year? No, you said you watch every single game. Is it different than last year? Whenever you ran into the Big Bad Wolf, the Indiana Pacers, Tyrese Halliburton's now sitting on this show. He's not in a playoffs, which I mean. Hi, Tyrese. How are you? What's up, Ben? How you doing? I mean, I was there, as you know, last year when Tyrese hit the shot, that changed everything. And I had the bad luck of being sitting under the celebration under this and then making eye contact with Miles Turner. Just it was so weird. I thought we were going to go. It was just so scary and weird. I was like, this is the one time I don't want these seats. Because it was just your glory moment there. So yeah, the Knicks, I think, this year, up until about three or four weeks ago, I was a little, or three weeks ago, so I was questioning it a little because I don't think we've ever really found the rhythm. Last year, there was a team cohesion. But then there was also the fact that the rotation was so tight. I think that finally something clicked at game three, Atlanta series after game three of the Atlanta series, where I think the team started playing for each other. And obviously, Mikhail started producing. And OG has been incredible. So everybody is stepping up. I feel like there's a good vibe. OKC is really, really tough. Knock on wood if we can. OG now, he's a huge part of our success. Day to day, Sean's just saying it's day to day, Ben. Day to day with that hamstring. I think that's good news. As opposed to just. Yeah, we did that, Mike Blake. But every single thing a couple of years ago, I mean, I remember when Julius Randall was on the team and OG went out and there was this incredible run and then he went out and it changed everything too. So we really need him. But I also feel like the role players have had more time to play as they didn't have last year in terms of the rotation. So if Deuce can step up, if Landry Shaman, who's great, can step up, Mo Diawara. We have some good pieces, so we'll see. All right, well, good luck to you. Can't wait to see you at the games. Yeah, get the job done. Yeah, good luck. Good luck. Are you ever going to be coming to MSG, Pat? So you did here last year. I tried to come and I was told no. That's awesome. I thought that was incredible, by the way. I thought that was who told you no. I think. Don't. Yeah, you know who. Mr. Dolan. I think there was a no. I love that, by the way. I was like a massive fan of that move just because just like I like us talking shit to you immediately upon you missed the game because that's like sports. But I didn't think about you actually having to kind of internalize all that like, fuck, I got Johnny. Wait. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, sorry. Thank you for letting me air that out. Honestly, I appreciate it. Yeah, no, that's a tough spot for you. But we were definitely going to talk shit to you. You're in the sports world. That's how we view it. You should know that. And you are very welcome to be very much appreciative of you. And good luck on whatever other shit you create for us to enjoy. Thunder too. Thank you, guys. Oh, traffic thunder too. Will there ever be? We'll see. I want to leave that one alone because I think it's kind of lives in its own world. Have you thought about some of the old's bringing back maybe another? Well, we just did another Meet the Parents called Fokker and Law that's coming out thanks to you. Oh, yeah. And Fokker, can't wait for that. I like that. Have you found something maybe with this though that you enjoyed? Maybe go back in time a little bit. Maybe we go back to fucking Fat Camp? You know what? I love that. Heavyweight's one of my favorite experiences ever. I would love, yes, I'll be open to that. Look, I think getting people back in the theaters for comedies would be a great thing. Original or whatever sequels. But let's get people back laughing together in the theaters because that was so much fun back in the day. And hopefully we can see that happen again. Good community experience. It feels like people are buying stuff to go do stuff. Hopefully we can continue that. We just need you to keep making it. You got to go to Severance to this way. Let me fuck up your brains. Yeah, lay in that plane. Let me go ahead and fuck up your brains here with Severance. No pressure. No pressure. No pressure at all. Could be the greatest show ever if you don't fucking up. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of. Yeah, no problem. I got faith. Ladies and gentlemen, that's Ben Stiller. Thank you, buddy. Very bad. Thank you, buddy. Back to me. Holy shit. Did not expect that. We apologize, Shregs. Are you kidding? I mean, gosh, heavyweights too. Give me something about Mary too. Give me dodgeball too. Definitely. You mean dodgeball too. I'll take reality bites too. I don't care. Just give me more of those. Those are great. Yeah. I mean, there's just so many. So many. How many great moments do we have in movie theaters with Ben Stiller's films? So we talked about this yesterday. Ben Stiller and Sandman. Adam Sandler. And Ferrell. Will Ferrell's up there. Yeah, rest in peace, obviously. But we're talking about Ben Stiller and Adam Sandler have both made so many things. Like so. Sorry, not Will Ferrell. Sorry. Sorry. What was that? Not Will Ferrell. Was there news since OG's the handspring? Very sparly. Rest in peace. I was like, I know Will has to put out that many bangers lately. No, Will. Will Ferrell, hero, legend icon. You're right. Will Ferrell definitely. I apologize. I forgot about him. Oh my god. I'm happy. That's 100% on me, Will. Thank you for bringing me life for a long time. Yeah, I love everything you're about. But you're right. Like those three from that generation have created so many things. Like so, so many things. Sandler. When did you laugh harder in the theater at something about Mary or the original Borat film? I think Jack. Or Jackass. When I saw Jackass in the theater, it was revolutionary. We were young for something about Mary. Not young, but like. I will say semi-pro. Oh, yep. I went to the theater three times. What a film. What a film. Me and you went to see wedding crashes at the theaters many times, multiple times as well. Yes, because it was a heater, an absolute heater. I think that was a good one. Super bad in the theater? Super bad. Tropic Thunder was my favorite comedy. It's my favorite comedy of all time. I mean, Adam Sandler. And there will be net. I know. Adam Sandler just has so many bangers. And he has some that are underrated. Like that's my boy, I think, is one of the funny. Great one. But he had such a big streaming deal. I think a lot of people know him for streaming. Yes. As opposed to like going to movie theater, which I do. Oh, I saw in year to year I went Billy Madison to Happy Gilmore to then like he got like soft with the wedding singer. Then Big Daddy was great. And then Mr. D was just crazy and off the wall. Like, what was all we the devil little nicky? Little nicky. Yeah. So you're saying Sandler and Stiller, they're both what? New York Knicks fans. Is that right? Are they both New York? Sandler's a New York guy. I assume he's in it. I think Sandler just likes the sport. Great Hooper. Yeah, Sandler. Have you ever been diced up by him before? I've watched him play in our practice facility. You and him kind of similar playing style. Yeah. With me and the Sandman. And fashion too. I think kind of similar people. He's got much better fashion than Tyrus. I like the Sandman. Big Sandman fans. We love the Sandman. Probably the coolest celebrity I've ever met in my life. Sandman? Yeah, yeah, for sure. Clean Dap handshake, what we do. Clean Dap, great conversation. He did a great job of introducing himself to Jade. It was pretty cool. His comedy show was one of the best shows I've ever seen. Yeah, we once had watched. You see it live? On like a Tuesday. It was a Tuesday or Wednesday here in Indianapolis down in the arena. I was there. Sold out the fucking arena. And it was just him. Just an absurd Adam Sandler show for 90 minutes. I don't even know how to describe it. We're singing songs at one point. We're fucking telling jokes at one point. We're putting glasses on at one point. Did you just have him? Did you meet him? No. No, I got a text. One of my all time favorites. I grew up with the records, the music albums. Oh, they were so awesome. Somebody, they're all going to laugh at you. Like these are like Cold Booth Willie. The donkey. Medium face, hello. Like these are hilarious, hilarious moments of my life. So have you seen the live show? I didn't see it. I saw it on Netflix. I thought it was amazing. He writes new songs for these shows. And it's just outrageous because he's like actually down. What was the donkey song? That was the best. Click a D Clank. He ha, he ha. Yeah, what a stud. OK, let's talk NFL stuff, shall we? Because we have an NBA guy here. So let's tell him about. Sure. You know, by the way. What? What do you want to do? We're talking toughness with other leagues. And your league never got brought up. Yeah, that's ridiculous. Stop it. I don't like it. I don't like it. When you were talking about watching the games last year, I did want to throw that in. Like you also with the SGA flopping stuff, like you forget how physical the game is itself. Because of the flailing, you don't realize like it is actually so physical. And how hard they're trying. Yes. The narrative is like, can't try too many points. I'm not trying. It's like everybody is dying out there. You're right. I need to talk about that more. I need to talk about that more. Because what you guys have to go through with the amount of running, amount of reps, amount of games, amount of travel, lack of sleep. I think there is a toughness to that. We need to represent that a little bit more. And the skill of the game, too. You're part of the new media. You know, do a better job. Well, Steve and Ian Skip are going to take it back. Oh my god. Nobody. 10 AM Eastern. Not true. ESPN. You guys excited? Right here. Totally excited. Can't say nobody. Because I'm right here. Hey, sue me. I'm pumped to watch a master debate yet tomorrow. I cannot wait. There'll be one topic, the whole show. Yeah. Who to go? One person. 10 years of shit, he's got to say. 10 years about one person, two people. Shrags, I know you're excited. You love television. Shrags loves television. Shrags loves the intricacies of television. Shrags knows more about the intricacies of television than anybody I've talked about. Shrags cares about the little things on television more than anybody I've ever had a chance to talk to. You've got to be super pumped up about tomorrow. Because what tomorrow is, is a representative of what the era that had been for a long time of sports media has been. Don't you think? Is that kind of the bigger picture for tomorrow? Kind of a full circle moment, right? Like it started with those guys. And now every single person's got a podcast. Every single person has a screaming talking head show. And now it's like we've finished the full circle and they're back. And I'll tune in. I'll check it out on Friday. Oh, I like that. I think that's tomorrow, right? Yeah, it's tomorrow. It's almost here. Tomorrow, 10 a.m. Eastern, ESPN. Just he and I. Well, also, Shay Cornette. Showtime. Showdown. Pray for him. Thank you, score. Pray for him. Pray for him. What's that, Shrags? Pray for him. Shrags. OK, let's talk NFL with Shrags, shall we? Because he doesn't know what Skip's capable of. Yeah, well, he does laugh. What happens if he does actually just pull out a freaking gun? I don't know. I think there's a security camera. I think I got it. No, that's not what he's saying. Who to go and answer right. Let's talk a little bit about it. What happens if Johnny invites him to the Met Gala tonight? There's a chance. Listen, Skip might have to take a trip. I appreciate Ben Stiller being like. It's nice that Johnny Depp to invite him. Is that who that was? Was that Seline Johnny that? Think of it. Johnny who? Johnny Depp ain't going to that. We know what Johnny's doing. How about Ben Stiller following up with? I was not invited to the Met Gala. I was invited by somebody who was invited, not me. Timmy goes every year. Timmy actually gets invited by these people, not me. I didn't think anybody would know that. I mean, who cares that I'm a. It's like Ben. You're Ben Stiller. Sounds like he is all the way back in. All right, let's do some NFL talk, shall we Shrags? And I think I don't want to break any news. We're not going to break any news. We don't know what news is news. What do you got? Especially right now. What do you got? Going to see a lot of Shrags. Shrags, we love Shrags. I love you, Shrags. Oh, yeah, Shrags. So let's move. Let's talk. Stephen Jones on Micotrade a year later, the decision we made was one that one player is not worth four or five good players. When you look at what the Dallas Cowboys have cooked and what the Green Bay Packers have cooked, should we look back in a positive light for this trade for both parties or how do you kind of view this entire thing, Shrags? With any trade, it's going to be, let's see how it all works out. But they had a strategy in this to, hey, we're going to pick up defensive players in this draft. They took defensive players and four of the first five picks. And over the course of the last 12 months, they added Kenny Clark, Quinn Williams, and Rashad and Gary. Their defense is significantly better than it was when they took the field week one without Micah Parsons. The one thing I took away from that great doc that you guys talked about on Monday, the pick is in, was the Stephen Jones, Will McClay, Jerry Jones, Brian Schottenheimer of it all. They all seem like they're on the same page. And then you add in this new defensive coordinator, Christian Parker, who, by the way, is 34, comes from the Eagles and was a defensive backs guru. And it's kind of the voice like, hey, let's get Caleb Downs. Let's get Malachi Lawrence. I know it sounds hyperbolic, and it's easy to move the needle in May to say the Cowboys got significantly better and could be contenders. But I can't see that roster today versus what we saw opening week last year with that defense and not think this team has gotten so much better on that side of the ball. And if Downs and Quinn and Rashad and Gary all play what we think they can do, you can start to justify that Micah trade knowing that they're spent the money on so many different places opposed to just one player. Shraig, I want to ask you about Christian Parker. He brought up there, the new DC. I saw you calling the most interesting man in the NFL. And then I swear to God, I have heard his name on like six to seven other shows, people talking about him being a genius. Like he sees the game, like the way that all the great coaches have seen the game. Where is that coming from? Is that just people talking about how good he was and Philly and stuff like that? But people are talking about Christian Parker, he's the next great coach. I've gotten to know Christian a little bit, not well enough. He's 34. He was with the Broncos. And then of course, he's with the Eagles. And he was their defensive backs coach the last few years. And is one of the guys responsible, obviously, for what we see at a Quinion Mitchell and Cooper Dijine. But he's a firebrand. He is up. He is up. It's energy. It is wake up out of bed, 11 out of 10. Let's go. And the players seem to really respond to him in a real way. But what I heard was in this draft process, he was very vocal as to what they wanted. And Caleb Downs was the number one guy that they wanted for his above the neck, for the high IQ. So he's a guy who was a player, I believe Richmond. He was a Richmond spider. And he's earned his way. And at 34, I think there's no more interesting new hire as far as coordinators go than the defensive coordinator, the Cowboys, whose team was awesome on offense and awful on defense a year ago. Yeah. And Shadi, seemingly, is very comfortable with the head coaching role. Maybe this guy is the next head coach. As a 34-year-old, getting an opportunity to lead the Dallas Cowboys, a lot of opportunity. And the pick is in. Did you know they were shooting that? When they were shooting that, they got a lot of access. There was a camera around. And I know they got a lot of shifter. There was not a lot of Shrager. And I loved watching it. I thought it was fantastic. They weren't in the Bunker Boys tavern for much of that draft. They didn't make it there. No. Bunker Boy tavern. Did we know he was miked up, though? I had no idea. We had no idea that he was miked up. And we like to let Shifter know. Shafty, you've been around the league long enough. Come on. OK. When you're wired, you need to be letting people know. Now, I would like to see him backstage running into that puddle and wall whenever he had to figure out that George Pickens was potentially signing his franchise. I know that's how it was phrased. But that's what he told us after. He was signing it. It was great. That pick is in show was fantastic. I think this is the new hard knocks for NFL films because we very rarely get to see any of this and would never get to see any of this. I think this is a good one, Shrags. Back to your point. I kind of liked it more than hard knocks. Definitely. And I liked the immediacy of it, that it came out just a week after the draft so we could watch it. One thing I, obviously, Adam here with, I got to trade in my Wi-Fi sucks and the whole thing. That was fun. Yeah, it's always Wi-Fi. But one thing I loved was seeing the Cleveland War Room and how they had three different offensive guys that they liked, Jordan Tyson, Cece Malanoa, Spencer Fanot. They're sitting at six. They know the Giants want to go offensive tackle, so they can't trade behind them. So Andrew Berry really craftily moving just to nine with the Chiefs who get their guy and then they still get Fanot. Like, that stuff is so cool to me. It's a chessboard and there's so much more to the draft than just best player available. I love the draft. I had so much fun. We appreciate you joining us out there in Pittsburgh. And we can't wait to continue to celebrate you, brother. Have a good one. Thank you for joining us. I love it. And I'll tell you, Pittsburgh was an amazing city and you guys were great to me. Halliburton, how cool to meet you again. Pat, thanks for letting me in your world as always. No, you're the best, Shrags. We're all in your world, brother. And you know what? Real Nick fan right here. Let's roll, baby. Let's go. That's right. The hat off got me excited. They're going to run through a wall. Ladies are jumping here, Shragger. Yeah, Shragger. You ain't never met anybody like Shragger. He would lock you a fuck up. He bops wood. He takes you to the blocks. He actually does have a nice jumper, too. That's awesome. Yeah, and he's like six, nine. Yeah, you can tell from that. Yeah. All right, as we wrap up today, what would be your big takeaway tomorrow? 10 AM Eastern, you got your fucking alarm clock set. Master debaters, master debating all over your face. Is that your big takeaway? Yeah, move that workout. I won't tune in at all. Not even the clips. The clips are going to hit your algo like fucking, let's see. I don't want everything that just. Nape home. Yeah, there we go. That's what it's like. Like the hand to fire. Everything that is hitting. That's what I didn't want to say. Yeah, because that has kind of hit my algo right now. And I don't like the percentages that I'm seeing. I don't like any of it. I actually like I don't like the dates that I'm seeing. I was in a bit of a worry in the middle of the night. And then the algo actually fed me some comforting news. So I'd like that the algo is kind of bringing me back down the earth. OK, well, if the algo could do that for. Hey, I'm in a holding pattern. I'll send you the positive ones. OK, thank you. It's actually too deadly to spread. OK, so since we brought it. OK. That's crazy. With that being said, since we did just talk to your algo, you will be forced to see clips tomorrow of two master debaters doing their thing on the stage. And I will scroll right past. Is that your big takeaway, though, for today? Is that tomorrow is a big one for all of us? And I'm here in sports in a great place. Sports in a great place. Sure, I love that. Ratings up for everything. Ratings up for everything. Tony's excited about Aaron Rodger. Yeah, I got a lot of feedback. Would have done it the same exact way, Tony. You did us proud. Oh, you're saying everybody's saying, hey, listen, you did what you had to do. I've got a lot of these. A lot of hot tips there. Really? The question is, though, you said he's family. Yeah. But when a player who is family, everybody on the Steelers is family. Yeah. When you guys trade that person, you can't trade a family member. So. Well, you certainly can is what they've done in the past. Yeah, and they've cut them, too. Yeah, get to find them. They still hold a special place in my heart. I just don't think about them as much. Yeah, and if they want a title. If they want a title. I think about it all the time. They're certainly welcome back whenever they're done. I'll put pictures of them on my wall in my basement. Shout out to you, 7. Troy. That's been Raffles. That has been Raffles for a good second, Bob. And we'll do that here in Indiana to you. Whenever you win a title for the Indiana Pacers. Hard road. Hard road. They're saying rumors, rumblings. The East is about to have a freak transfer over to maybe the city of Boston. What? Those are rumors that are kind of brewing. Oh, yeah. Kind of brewing right now. Yeah, especially with everything that happened right after the whole Jalen Brown stream thing. Don't do streams after you lose the game. He's just built up his smack down a raw roster. So don't you worry about it. I just play the game. He's playing. Don't you worry about any of that? We ain't with the theatrics with that whole stuff. We appreciate that. You do have it inside you, though. But you choose to use it in the right times, which is why you are a great leading man for the city of Indianapolis. Now back to your point, though. Yeah, the Brad Stevens press conference. A lot of people are like, the Jalen Brown thing is one thing. But Brad Stevens, I don't know if I or anyone has ever seen him that openly pissed off talking to the media at the end of the season. He also basically mentioned how like, hey, there were eight to 12 teams this year actively trying to lose. The league is going to be much, much better next year because all those teams, Tyrese will come back. The Pacers have their top pick. They're going to be better. The Clippers, who knows what's going to happen. But there are a few teams up in that top there that we're trying to lose that are going to get a good player and then immediately be a contender again. So there are some moves that will be made in Milwaukee. Might be calm, Boston. And maybe Boston just thinks about making an offer. For who? Or receiving an offer. Maybe a Jalen for Yanis and a one. We just kind of, we do that. We'll even take tenasses. OK? Maybe we bring tenasses in. I think that's part of it. By the way, VODs are immaculate with tenasses from my understanding. Bingo. And he's going to love some of the Greek food we got in New England. I'll tell you what. So much Greek yogurt. I know you guys got Greek yogurt. Oh, and I'm talking real Greek food. I'm talking about the... E-Iros? Bingo. Thank you for saying it because I forgot. Lamb kebabs? Sure. Sheesh. All the kebabs. OK. Sheesh kebabs. Sheesh kebabs. Sheesh kebabs. All the kebabs. That's very nice. I love sheesh. All right. Before we get out of here, Tyrese, great job guest host today. Great job. Thanks for having me, guys. Thank you for stepping up. If you'd like to do it again tomorrow, please let me know. If not, I completely understand. You should come back, man. Before you get out of here, though, we need you to make your picks for Backlash. OK. OK. WrestleMania. Backlash. Backlash. Who's Dan Heisen going to team up with to take on? That's a great question. Who is it going to be? I was brah-ing so 10. Oh, no. Who's the Miz teaming up with? Kit Wilson. Kit Wilson. Who? Toxic. Is that Tarzan? That's Tarzan? Kit Wilson. No, it's Kit Wilson. He's a beast. Kit Wilson saved the Miz from punching a wall, actually, the other week. Well, let's say Kit Wilson's muted. So how would I tell you? No, Dan. Feels like this is probably a video that we screenshot. It's from IG. Yeah, it feels like we stole this from somebody. But on that note, Dan Heisen, who's his teammate going to be? And are they going to win over the Miz? The Miz has this phenomenal losing streak. I'm not sure he's ever really caught a dub in a decade. Like 2,000 straight matches. Yeah. So is the housing going over? How's it going? How can he not? I'm a big Danhousen guy. I like Danhousen a lot. OK, and we whooping that trick? Is the champion of the United States? Of course, we are whooping that trick. Is that Sammy's end these days? That is Sammy. He looks the exact same. He looks mean, doesn't he? He looks mean. Did AI use it to make this? Because I know it's the thing going on right now. I don't think they use AI. Listen, let's not judge people using AI to make stuff. Well, it's a big top of ground in this city. Well, do you remember Pete Crow? I'm strong on top of the world. OK, we don't need to be judging too much. Drake made me. Sammy versus Braun. Now that's a match. That's going to be a good match. What's that? Sammy. I mean, sorry, Seth versus Braun. Holy shit, they're not all the same. No, that was not me. Sammy's ain't in Seth Freakin' Rollins. That was not me. Seth was on GMFB this morning, so I don't know if that matters to your picks or not. Yeah, is he focused? He's not focused because he's very good at a lot of other things. Football conversation, he is good at. He's been doing a lot of it. Obviously, Braun Breaker just came back more jacked than he's ever been. How do you feel it's going to go? I got Braun winning. Maybe some vision antics. Some vision. Who's on what team here at this point? Who's part of the vision? Logan Paul. Love him. Austin Theory. Love him. Paul Heyman and Braun Breaker. Love him. That's the vision right now? That's the vision. Are they seeing 2020 or are they still kind of fractured? They have the Tag Team Championships, and Braun is after Seth, so I feel like they're seeing well. OK, Oscar and EO Sky, I know this is one that is near and dear to your heart. Who do you like? How do you like it? You know who I like. EO Sky. Yeah. We're always picking EO Sky. Let's go. Yeah, we do. EO Sky, obviously phenomenal with Flanarot. Yes. Oscar, potential Goat. Were they together at one point? Oh, yeah. Were they the Kabuki Warriors? Oh, yeah. Were they? That's a Kyrie Seyne as well. That was Kyrie Seyne. OK. That was a big name on the internet, obviously, with a lot of things happening with WWE, evolving, changing, developing, moving forward. Decisions get made. People get mad. Fans get mad. Sure. Kyrie Seyne, I believe no longer a part of here. And now EO Sky and Oscar about to do battle. And then let's go to Jacob. Fah, too. Yada da mean. All gas, no brakes. Taking on our Tribal Chief. I know you're kind of torn on Tribal Chief because he just bullies all your favorite guys all the time. Why would I be torn on Tribal Chief? You acknowledge him at WrestleMania, which we appreciate. I mean, it was probably arguably, your guys are going to even matter what I'm about to say. So I'm just going to say it, OK? Arguably, the greatest WrestleMania main event of all time. Really? You love what Roman was doing. I'm sorry. Were you not in Philly? It's OK. I don't think you was. Yeah, I wasn't in Philly. Oh, OK. Great match. A lot of shenanigans going on in Philly. OK. Oh, takeers of shenanigans. Seeno. You're not kidding me, dude. Guys running in. It's historical. The special moment. Oh, the story was finished. And you were a crybaby. So you should have got straight grabs. No shenanigans. 1v1, mono and mono. Punk and Roman. Punk and Roman. I thought they said Roman was done for the summer. What's he doing in backthush? No, he's talking about the IWC saying he's. Tyrese. Yeah, IW time. I didn't say he was done for the summer. Are you acknowledging your travel chief at backlash on Saturday? Yeah. Amen. I am acknowledging our travel chief on Sunday. Saturday. Saturday. Sorry. May night. Then you thought Seth was Sammy. Six Eastern is good. It was a 40 in slip. Or whatever it looks. Yeah, I know. I just hope good Sammy looks, I think. Six Eastern is a good start time. Who you liking? Fattu Roman, AJ. Come on now. You know I'm Roman all the time. OK, how about Seth and Braun? This is a tough one for me. But you know what? Give me Braun. How about EO? EO Sky all day. We know that. Do you trick in Sammy? I like trick. I really do. OK, how about housing and supply? As a mids, he's really lost every match he's ever competed in. Yeah. He's been champion before, but since then, yeah. Quite a run. OK, he is due. Give me the minute. Like that. Like that. All right, let's get on out of here. Thank you, Tyrese. Good luck with the shingles. Thank you, Tyrese. Appreciate it. Is it over? Yeah, good luck with that. No, it's not over. Shingles is not over? It's not over. Holy fuck. How long does this thing go? We're at three months now. You look good. You do. You look good. Appreciate it. You look like it's over. Yeah, it's getting there. Congratulations. Lessened? Yeah, maybe. I itch my eye less, much less. So you think light at the end of the tunnel is in near? I don't know my eye. Yeah, I'm just hoping it's like fully gone by wedding. Every day you can wake up and it could be over. Is that what you've been told? What do you mean over? Oh, the shingles could be. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What did you mean? My eye's itching. Should I be concerned? No, you shouldn't be concerned. OK. He did hold up a napkin earlier. Yeah, that was a little disrespectful. That's what we do. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice we appreciate you. We'll see you tomorrow. Back here with another incredible sports program that somehow you choose to watch. We wouldn't be able to do this without you. You're starting to get it. Yeah, starting to get it. This is new? Yeah. Well, maybe to you. That was good. That was good. And we're so grateful for you. We'll see you. Tomorrow, be a friend, tell a friend something nice we might change our life. We're gonna send together team on me, team on three. One, two, three, team. Goodbye.