1457 - Ronnie Loves Watching her Husband with Other Women, MFM Threesomes  and More

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Sdc.com is like the world's largest online adult dating site. But it's so much more than a dating site. I mean, you can use it to hook up with people instead of threesomes and all the kind of stuff that people do on my show. But you can also use it to find out about meetups and events in your areas as well as learn stuff about the lifestyle. They have so much information on sdc.com. Even if you use my code 37712, you'll get a free trial that's 37712 or just go to the description and click on the link. And it'll take you right there and get and set you up with a free trial. So anyway, today I have on Ronnie. Now I aired her husband's story last week, Sam. Sam called in and told the story about him and Ronnie. They're a professional swinger company, a couple. Sorry, they have an open marriage. They've been swingers from like very early on. And then they started hosting parties. They host very famous parties out in New Zealand from New Zealand. Sometimes they do couples separate. I had Sam call in first and he gave their whole backstory and he gave their whole story. And then I decided to have Ronnie on. And let me tell you her episode is a whole other side to their story, which you're going to love. Ronnie's super cool. She's as open as he made her out to seem. She's as hot as he made her out to seem. And she's got a lot of hot stories and a lot of interesting stories as well. You're going to love her take on their relationship as well as just being in the lifestyle as a female and her take on all of that. And her being in the lifestyle as a female and all that kind of good stuff. Like I said, she brings so many new stories and information to this episode that you didn't hear on Sam. So it's such a great part two of Sam and Ronnie. You're going to love it. I have pictures of her. She talks about how curvy she is. She's hot. I have pics of them, both her and Sam and their sex parties in the club, the sex club that they built in their backyard. Okay, it's all on my Patreon. Anyway, I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Ronnie. This is the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Hey Ronnie, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. How are you today? I'm good, thank you, and yourself. I'm good. So listen, Ronnie, I talked to your husband, Sam, already and now I'm going to talk to you. Now, sometimes I air the guy first, then I air the female. I don't know, I mix it up all the time. So who knows if we've heard your husband already or he's going to come after you. But I have a little bit of your story. What's interesting about your guys' relationship is you did open up your marriage when you were together and you guys are full-fledged swingers. You're throwing parties at your house and when I say you throw parties at your house, they're very professional. I got pictures of them, okay? You got like a whole fucking club being that was built on your compound. It's like a real thing that goes down in New Zealand where you guys are from. Your guy gave a shout out to your parties, which you will give at the end again. So if anyone's in that area. But what he did tell me, I remember, is that you had a little bit of a history of swinging before you met him or doing something in the lifestyle in your relationships before you met Sam. So do you want to like start there? Because you had a first marriage before him? No, no, no. My first husband. I was in a relationship prior to my husband and he sort of got me into that lifestyle. I was a little bit curious in all fairness. I always liked the idea of that Roman toga, get on and touch everybody sort of style. And then of course, he sort of heard about that and actually it was a funny story. He, when you first meet the people that you're dating, they say things like, so how many people have you slept with? Oh, thank God. No guy should ever say that to a girl. I know, right? I know. And I said, how many of you? And he was like in the teens. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, sure, sure. Close, close. And eventually it sort of came out that I was nowhere near the teens. And he was like miles away from what my total was. And then of course I started talking about the swinging. Yeah. Obviously being a guy, 99.9% of guys always want a threesome. And so we eventually started talking about, and I said, well, look, I'm happy to give it because when we met, my biggest thing was, don't cheat. Give me options. So if you think the grass is greener on the other side of the fence, cool. Let me know. And I then can say, well, you go across the other side of the fence, come back and tell me what you think, or I listen to you mind if I join you on the other side of the grass, or I got the option to leave. I think all of those, but I should actually have that option to do that. So that was my big thing. So we ended up, I said, okay, let's do this. And I worked with a lady who I was friendly with. And I floated that option with her and she was quite keen. At that time, however, my husband didn't quite understand the difference between lust and love. So he sort of got in contact with this lady, texted her, it became very full on. And I said to him at one stage, he listens, we pee, you need to stop. This is about like sex, not about feelings. And I don't think he quite understood at that point. And then it was sort of like, then every day, and I'm like, so I actually took that option off the table. And I said to him, I'm sorry, but that option's off the table. Still happy to do the threesome, but that option is off the table because you're getting too close. Yet meaning this particular lady, not the actual threesome, just her. I said, well, I'm happy to still go ahead with that, but he felt like I dangled a carrot and I ripped that carrot out from underneath him and needless to say, we ended up spitting up for 18 months. And he tried his hand and worked out that that wasn't quite the case. I remember the pivotal moment where he realized he'd lost me. He came around one day because he wanted to get me back. He was still with this other lady. And I turned around and I said, listen, it's over. We're done. Goodbye. And I think that was a massive, massive wake-up call. Because in between this, he's going back and forth, back and forth, not really knowing what's going on in his own brain. And I understand that he was a little bit like screwed up, not knowing quite where it was at. But I think when I decided that was it, I'm done. Good. See you later. Have a nice day. I think it really was a big wake-up call. And then he spent the next God knows how long busting his gut to get me back effectively. Yeah. And it took a while. And we're going to get back to when you guys get back together and everything. He told that story a little, like he went on about that story a little bit more, which was interesting because it was more, to me, I think, interesting to hear his side. Because he was the one that really fucked up in that situation. But let's go back a little bit before we go forward when you guys get back together and talk about what you did before you met Sam. Like you did say you had a partner and you guys played around. What did you guys do during that time? Did you have threesomes with women? Is that when you started hooking up with women? No, no. Funnily enough, it started with more couples. And then we went to a couple of parties. Okay. And I remember going to this particular party and it was when I realised, gosh, I guess I quite like women. And there was one particular woman there who I'll never forget. And I was highly attracted to her. Her husband was a sleazy mofo, so we didn't go there. But it was one of those missed opportunities. And so I guess when I split from that guy, and that's a whole other issue, he was a pedophile, let's move on. I think when I split from him, I was still very curious about the buy side. So of course, when my husband said, I think when my husband said, I'd like to try through some, that was kind of like, oh, actually, that's a real good opportunity for me to try and get into my buy side and see whether I really like that or whether it was just a one off or that sort of thing. But I did have some what you would call couple experiences before I met my husband. Were they full swaps or soft swaps? No, full swaps. One particular one, though, which I thought was particularly hot, was one particularly lady she liked, DP, double penetration. And I got to watch that hottest thing I've ever seen, literally standing off to the side right there. It was like home porn, if that makes sense. Yeah, of course. And that was a really hot experience for me. So I just remember thinking that that was pretty cool. I wasn't into that particular woman, but that experience itself was pretty hot. Yeah. So that's how it all sort of. So obviously, though, it proved to you that you were down seeing like your partner with somebody else, because sometimes people don't aren't into that. That's like a big no, no. Who knows? But you were into seeing your partner with another girl. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. No, absolutely. Love watching my husband with another woman. There's just something about it. There's just something about and they come back afterwards. That's right. That's my man type thing. He's got a great cock. I know that he's really good in bed. It's almost like a puff out chest situation. And so I personally love it. And I also think that variety is a spice of life. And I also truly believe that sometimes when they go off and sleep with someone else, they realize how good they've got it at home. So they get comparison and they get to the whole. That was good, but my wife's better sort of type thing. Not because I'm better, better, but it's just that when you've got love involved, it's a whole different way of making sex is sex, but making love is making love. So even though you have sex in your marriage. Yeah, no, listen, you may do not have the jealousy gene in you or to you. Like because it just sounds it sounds like very early on. And I don't know when you're with this guy, but that you are pretty secure in your relationships and in yourself to sort of give your partner free reign and knowing that he's going to come back. I think that that's everyone's biggest fear is that they're not going to. You just sound so confident that, listen, I give him free reign. He's not only going to come back to me, but he's going to realize how much how great I am when he does come back. What a great way to be. Yeah, before obviously the incidents that we've previously talked about, I had never had a jealous bone in my body. I can say that there has been since obviously this incident, I've had to work through quite a bit. The the green eyed monster is is popped its ugly head out every now and then, especially when it gets very close to woman. I sort of get that feeling. But I think, and I did have some issues. I've got to say that never took away from the actual act itself. Whenever I was in those situations, that was never a jealous thing. It was more outside of that with communication and get what I felt was getting too close. It was like a sort of thing coming to rear its ugly head. So I have had some moments. Yeah, I'm not going to sit here and tell you I haven't. And I think anybody in this lifestyle will have moments. But yeah, I think for the most part, I love the actual watching of the act. I have no problem with that whatsoever. I'm not jealous in that respect at all, but can get and have had not so much recently, obviously, but I have had my moments that have probably done my husband's head in. OK, listen, spring is here. Thank God, I totally prefer the warmer weather. But with the warmer weather comes me needing to get together my whole spring wardrobe. And that means you need to get your whole spring wardrobe together, too. And that's where Quince comes in. And Quince has like every staple you are going to need for spring. They have European linen shorts and soft cotton tees. And they have everything else to go with it. OK, and honestly, one thing I love about Quince is that their stuff actually looks expensive and put together, but it still feels comfortable. I recently purchased my son some linen shirts and I got him a pair of their ultra stretch pants and everything feels super soft and lightweight. 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Just what could just be a day where depending on the way the wind blows, your emotional is just certain way that you just something bothers you for. Who knows why? Yeah, you're a human being. It happens. It's really what's most important is how you navigate through and what's great about you is that even though those times have come and when you've never changed what you're into, you know that when you're in the moment, that's not how you feel. So it's not like you're doing something that is going against who you are. You do sound like a very like overall non jealous person, like you say. You don't really have that. Yeah, yeah. That gene in you that bad. But of course, because I think to me, jealousy and relationships when it comes to partners sort of looking at somebody else or even sleeping with someone else, it's not the fear of the sex. Because if it's just the sex that we knew for sure, it was just the sex. What does it fucking matter? It's about like that. It's like a big fear of abandonment that that person's going to leave you for the other person. And that's why that girl from your work was a problem because it was becoming something different more than sex. That's why that triggered you. Yeah, absolutely. And I think that is the problem. I think that's why a lot of women don't like this lifestyle. I think that they think, A, that you've got to throw the keys in and pray, but B, that their husband will find something something better than what they are. And I think they forget that often it's that the woman is their Viagra, knowing that their woman is in this and watching them gives them that extra oomph to go, OK, this is awesome. And then they come back to you and they are so in love with you because you've given them something that they it's not normal. And I put that in inverted commas in relationships. It's very abnormal, especially from a woman, especially that a woman is offering this up. That's why it's so crazy, that first story. Here's this guy who meets this chick who's so fucking cool enough to hand him like a free pass, like I'm totally down with this. And he ruins it. I was like, what a dumb, dumb, so funny when you hear stories like that. But I love what I love about the story is you guys went so beyond that. So let's get back to when you guys get back together because he winds up doing what he's got to do. He finally gets you back after 18 months. You guys split up. He comes back and then take it from there. Yes. So initially, I said to my husband, look, it's not going to happen. I can't trust that you are going to be not the last love sort of thing. But eventually I was still very, very curious about my my side. So I said to him, well, look, how about we we do the whole will hire someone? Let's see if you actually enjoy it. Because sometimes what you see and what you think and what's on porn videos and stuff like that is not necessarily what you actually get at the other end. So yeah, so I we hired a worker, obviously. And yeah, we we had a threesome with another woman. I wasn't particularly attracted to that woman, but it was still again, I wasn't adverse to doing the things with another woman. So I thought I must have been more by than I actually can. And I thought did you go down on her, even though like you were an enter, you tried it out? Yeah, I did. I did. And then I yeah, I just remember thinking, OK, I'm going to get good at this. I want to get good at this. Like I want a woman to feel like my my husband makes me feel. And that is escalating top of the roof type stuff. You know, so I thought I can try that. I can give this a nudge. So anyway, we did that. And then it was like we joined up to the Kiwi swingers. And the problem is that we couldn't. It was it was really hard to find a female that was worthy of sort of thing. And then so my husband said, well, how about we try a couple? But then it became a little bit of a hard, hard thing, because I had to be attracted to the male and the female. There was lots and lots of couples where the female was like Ace. And I'm like, I'm going to get in on that. That is the bomb. Diggity move over. Move over. It's my turn. Yes. But there was often guys that's like, please don't touch me. No, no, I'm not one for taking one for the team. Although originally in our in our swinging, we did take. I did take a few for the team, but I had one particular experience where I did take one for the team and I felt so gross afterwards. So I said to my husband, look, I'm going to have to back off. You do you. But that's really rattled me. I'm happy for you to do your thing, but I just got out. I'm just going to have to take a step back. And I think from that moment on, it's been like, I'll do what I want, when I want how I want. And I'm getting I became a little bit more vocal and went, no, no. And yes, no, no, yes, no, no, yes, type. But that probably comes with my age to be fair. Like I certainly slept with one or two men, just one or two. Or 10 or no, five. In my youth. So I think, unlike my husband, who hasn't had as many as I have, I guess I did a lot when I was younger. And so I don't need it as much as I get older and I'm very picky, which is a bit of a bitch for him because he loves watching me with other men. The problem is I'm very picky with those men. So so it's very few of public for him. But when it happens, at least it's it's going to be like something that I want. And it's going to be more pleasurable for him because I'm going to take one for the team. He's going to know about it because he's very tuned, attuned to how I feel. So yeah, he's he's going to get out. He's going to get more out of it. And he's going to want more of that. So yeah. So now when you say you decided like after you decide, because I think he said this to that finding couples that everybody is in line and everyone's attracted to everyone is sometimes like a really hard thing. So did you guys make a decision to do like solo play or like what? Or did you continue to see couples? Or is that when you start to have your party so you can meet more people and find people that you were in tune with? What how did you work through that? So I think well, the parties came about from we went to some a couple of parties that just were not OK. Yeah, very unconcerned, you're very all on the floor, whether you like it or not. And it was sort of like that really throw your keys in type scenario, but without throwing your keys in. And it went and we got home from a party and my husband said, that's it. I'm going to run parties. And I went, well, good luck getting them in the middle of Bumfuck effectively. He he decided, yeah, I'm going to do this. And so he put together and I said, you do that. So he put together, I think the first party they turned up and there was like 30 people. I thought, well, for the for the fact that we're in the middle of nowhere, that's pretty cool. And so we we initially had one bedroom and a portable toilet. Because my husband at the time decided, no, we didn't need a toilet. We're all good. Wow. I can't let me just say after that first party and someone had chat in this portable toilet, even though we'd said, look, this toilet's over at the house, I would go on off because I was in a musical at the time and I had a sound check that whole day. And I just get this picture of this overflowing toilet. And I can tell you the digger was out the following day to build toilets. So so that worked better. But we had this one toilet, one bedroom, and we came up with some rules because one of the things we just wanted people to enjoy themselves. It didn't necessarily have to be about sex, but the option was there. And it was also a good opportunity for us to meet people, because unfortunately in the lifestyle or in on the site, there are a lot of fake profiles and a lot of guys pretend we're in a couple or that sort of thing or a lot of guys cheating on their wives and things like that, which obviously I don't do. And so we sort of it was sort of a it was really good for both benefits. We got to meet some beautiful people. We got to see what couples and we went, well, actually, there's a couple we can align with and oh, look, they're really good. And it also meant that we had these parties and we could bring people into the lifestyle and not be scared off by their first party, because you can be. You can be scared off, whereas we're sort of like you do. You can come along to six parties and do nothing. And we've had that. And then after the six party, they literally get in. Yeah. But yes, I have tried the I did. I have sent my husband off by himself. It did bring up a little bit of jealousy for me, I have to say, but being really frank with you, but it also didn't do a lot for me. Interesting. OK. Yeah, I'm a visual person. Yeah. So seeing is amazing. I love it. Go fuck everything that walks. Knock yourself out while I'm there. But I guess when he was away, it was like you. It was more of a and what if and what if. And so it was like it took away from the whole experience for him. And which is sad. And I'd like to try it again, but slow steps, because I think it would be. I just felt a whole lot of emotions come up, which I should. It shouldn't have happened because he came back and it was all good. But yeah, I guess. So I think, yeah, definitely something I will try again if he's wanting to. He he's a bit like me. He likes to watch anyway. He likes me to be there. But, you know, there could be other experiences where that might happen. And hopefully I won't have the green eyed monster come up and smack me in the face again. Yeah. But even if it does, listen, you said like when you saw that DP right in front of you, it was like your life porn. Why not always be there? Tons of couples don't ever play solo, too. Really, you do what you want to do and it's fine. Basically, you guys have a lot of free reign in your relationship. So it's not like he can't fuck other women. You just you just like to be there because you want to see it. And I totally understand that. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm a real visual person. Yeah. Yeah, I get that. And so do you guys like when you did start like after that first couple and that first girl, I don't I do remember your guy talking about how good you are when you go down on girls, right? Isn't that your thing now? Like you did say you want to become really good at it. Aren't you really good at it now? Look, I hate boasting my own ego. I'm not going to say that because every woman is. Yeah, he did it for me. Yeah, every woman is very, very different. But every time I am with a woman, I try my hardest to get them off to to at least give them a good experience because I've had women that have said their bye and really, really, really not. And so I don't ever want a woman to feel like I'm not 100 percent invested. I'm not 100 percent trying to give them the best experience that they can. So they can walk away and go, wow, and I've been fortunate enough to get a few women off. So whether that makes me good, not good, the best, whatever. The fact is, it made me feel good because these women are literally excited or or have an orgasm. And in one particular case, I got one lady off who who never got off this particular way and literally came up to taste my own vagina. It was lovely. It gave me the big kiss afterwards. And and it was like, oh, my God, that is amazing. Like I felt so vindicated that I tried so hard. And and I think that in the lifestyle, if you're going to do this, you should be putting your best foot forward. And I because I love women and I want them to have the best experience. Then, yeah, that's that's what I try to do is give them the best experience. Yeah, no, I will listen. I'm going to say, and if people haven't listened to his episode yet, he did talk about how good you were going down on girls. Now, obviously, you let them go down on you. He did say this one little thing that took me for a surprise because I was like, what? Because he's telling me all about you, talking about it. I hear you talking now and he was like, oh, yeah, but she never really comes from certain orgasms. No, no, no, no, no. I never come in this lifestyle. No, no. The only I've only had. Yes, with my husband. Yes, you come with your husband, but nobody else. No, I've only come with one other guy. And that was the the last relationship, and that was only a few times. But my husband is the only one that has given me the orgasms that I am getting now. So I am really, really fortunate. He is exceptional with me, but he's also exceptional as in he's one that puts his best foot forward and is a bit like me. We're both givers. Yeah. Now, yes, I've had a couple of women go down on me. But they haven't been the best of experiences for me. One lady was was pretty good. But, yeah, as for as for men, I guess because I'm a very dominant lady, to be fair to you, I tend to take over. And so unless you're a very, very dominant man, which I haven't quite come across yet, I tend to take over and want to give them a good experience like a. Yeah, yeah. Give them the pleasure. Yeah, yeah. So like I aim to give them all a good blow job and I aim to make sure that they're getting off and and sometimes I forget about myself. Yeah, I don't. But I do because I'm obviously and it's not that I'm not enjoying it. But no, my husband is the only one that has managed to get me flying towards the ceiling. It's his goal to have some other guy. Yeah, that's so interesting because I remember him saying, but I know guys who are pleasers and they typically they don't really care about them having the orgasm. That's more they want you to have them. That's what's getting them off. So I'm assuming that in all these occasions while you're doing all this crazy stuff because you sound like an open minded, very kinky person, right? You're watching DPs. You're like, I fucking loved it. You're obviously wet and into it, right? And just that orgasm when you go home or when you fuck your husband. Is that how it or do you come like later by yourself? No, no, no, absolutely. No, no, no, absolutely with my husband and probably the next day or that night or depending on when the experience is, we have a really, really good experience together. Yeah. Do you guys know that May is International Mastercation Month? 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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, he's phenomenal in that respect. And I guess because he knows my body, he knows what to do. So of course, and then you've got all these visions in your head and you think, oh, my God, this is a baseball. And then he's touching the right pinnings. And then the next minute I'm touching the ceiling and it's that was really good. After all these swinging experiences, once you've often have them, you fuck like rabbits for two days because you're so into each other and it's such a cool experience. So yeah. Yeah, people talk about that all the time. They always say, oh, it's reclaiming sex. Some people call it something different, but people do say you kind of get high off of it and you could use those thoughts, right? Of everything that was going down for days after. Some people say it lasts even longer. You guys have been doing it for so long, but still even to this day, it'll still last a couple of days for you. I don't know if it lasts for a couple of days, but yes, we we. Yes, we become very loved up. Yes, I would say for a couple of days, I really loved up. It's like that. Oh, my God, we've just shared this amazing experience. I guess no different if you want to go into the vanilla world and say you go over to Bali and you have such an amazing experience. And for the next two weeks when you come back, you speak about nothing but Bali. It's the same sort of thing when you go away and do these experiences. You have these experiences and then two days you just like, oh, my God, that was amazing. You've got these visions in your head. Is all my husband's cock looks so amazing going in her vagina. And and she all goes and when I when I ate her out, that's just like hot for me. So yeah, you have these days afterwards that you get really loved up. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. Kind of like you said in the vanilla world, when you come back from your vacay, it's like such a great sort of analogy. Now, OK, so you start, I remember your guy saying the same thing that you said when you went online, it was like hard to find people and stuff. And so you do find a lot of people right at your parties because when you are having your parties, you guys are kind of working. It's not like you're hooking up because you guys are the hosts, correct? Yeah, yeah, that is correct. Yeah. No, we when it comes to the parties, we made a decision that although we get our flirt on and look, my husband's probably had his tongue down, most women's strokes, most times I was getting his flirt on. And I say, get in. We when you got supper, you're cleaning up rooms. We both sing so we're entertaining. We get a lot of newbies that come in. And for us, it's really, really important that those newbies have a really good experience and they understand they don't have to do anything they don't want to do. I don't want them to feel obliged sort of thing. So we look after them and so that they come back and between everything that we end up doing and then towards the end of the night, I'm so knackered. So even if half of the parties are left, I'm like, down in and I'm still trying to pick up people's shit all off the floor and cleaning up and getting that first load of washing on and knowing for well that in four hours, I'm going to get back up to look after all these people and continue cleaning. So to be fair, there is just not a lot of time, but it is a very good time for us to see who are not tire kickers. People people can take photos and you might think that they're Elmick Furson, but they turn out to be nothing like Elmick Furson. That's not a problem because I think beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But let's just be honest type thing. Then we get others that down play and they arrive up and you go, oh, my God. They're absolutely beautiful. And and and all you sit down and talk to them and their personality is just makes them so beautiful. So we can then arrange more of a private to get together, which we do at the parties. So although I should say my husband arranges, he does everything like he is. I do the cleanup and that sort of stuff. When he comes to the parties, my husband does 99.9 percent of it. I do the cleaning and I host with them and a bit of supper. That's that's basically where I'm at. So if we're attracted to someone or someone comes along, we always have sort of minor chat two minute. Are you into them? Yep, they they're good. OK. And so he'll go off and he'll organize something and they'll either come down the night before our parties or we'll organize something on another weekend. Right. And now are you guys hooking up with people from your party, like couples as well as unicorns? Like because you're I know you're into women. So typically is that what you're looking for? Couples that maybe you're both interested in unicorns? Yeah, I think it's either way. We have a couple that are absolutely beautiful and they're they're they're my jam so we get in on them. But we do single females, single males. It just whatever each of us is feeling like if and that doesn't discount like females that are not bisexual. If my husband is particularly attracted to a lady, you'll come up to me and say, you know, look, such and such. I'm like, yeah, you get in as long as they don't mind me watching. And or I'm not really one of those. I have to literally stand over you like a I might come and go as depending on what's going on or if I know them. But, you know, for the most part, I just love watching or being there. And as long as they don't mind that, that's cool. If there's a guy that I'm particularly attracted to, then my husband will literally go and be a wingman and say, hey, listen. Yeah, you want to come down and because I have a single profile, I tend to invite the guys to these parties. So I get to know their personalities and get to know them. I don't tend to judge people off photos. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So I like to get to know them if they've got a good personality, if they've got a nice cock, whatever. At the end of the day, he's my wingman and he he does 99.9 percent of everything, which is pretty cool to have as a husband. Yeah, I could imagine. Now, what is your type when it comes to women and when it comes to men? And does, you know, your guys say I'm have the same taste or no? Yes and no. Yes, I look personality is huge for me. OK, if they've got half a brain, I'm usually quite attracted to that. I am fairness. I like a really nice chest and nice arms. Ha, short back and sides that that look. I'm not not much for the for the long beard or whatever. But I think personality is a big one for females. I because I am quite curvaceous, we will say. Yeah, I tend to like women that are not curvaceous. Oh, I understand. Tete, Tete. Yeah, very petite. However, that does, I can't say that that has been the everything because again, personality, I've been with ladies that are bigger and have been amazed balls. I've loved them. So, yeah, again, personality is big. But if you ask me, line up, what would you go for? Then I'd probably go for a very petite looking lady and not a petite man, a muscular, but quite thin, but not overly thin. Not not skinny, just, yeah. But as again, I probably go with personality. A brain's huge for me. Now, listen, because girls talk and I'm assuming you got girlfriends and I'm wondering like your girlfriends that are out of this lifestyle, do they know about your life and what you're doing and all these parties that you're throwing? Or do you like live a secret life? I lead a secret life. Oh, none of my girlfriends. They don't know you got this whole Swinger Club. And I listen, I have pictures on my Patreon. Your guys have any pictures? OK, you guys have like the whole setup. Like when I see you guys are professional party throwers, have you created like a Swingers Club on your property? So how do your friends not know? Oh, my God. So my husband built a like a three bedroom. It's in a wall sheet, but we convert it to look like a house. But we also give away the space to anybody that that wants to use it for community events. So, you know, it's not just a swinging thing. It can convert it to a whole lot of things. We also had tiny concerts here because we've got the music equipment. Yeah, so it's not just it doesn't just look like a swing pad. We can actually create it to look like a normal house. In fact, we actually hired it out for the gold guitars. When they were down here, we we literally hired it out to people and they stayed in the three bedroom. It's just like a normal B&B. Oh, OK, so they don't you don't you just take down the swing and the cross and everything because I have pictures. So I see some rooms that look like a fucking sex club. I'm like, how do you hide that? I'm like, oh, my God. He built he built that cross to be fair. But yes, my husband takes down like the cross, the swing. We move the bed over to where they are. And we create that and make that look like a bedroom again. And the end room doesn't have a massage table. It just has a chair in the corner. So yeah, and obviously the shelves that would be for where people put their bags. We have a whole lot of candles sitting over them. And and we just turn it back to make it look and we make the beds as in normal Duvay's sheets, that sort of thing, because we do have people come down and stay. And so it looks like a normal three bedroom house. Along with another three bedroom house that we live in, if your friends only knew. Now, I do remember a bit a part of Sam's story towards the end. He did cop to the fact that his kids found out what was going down. Now, did you have a daughter too? Right? Like are you have a child too? Correct. So did your child find out or it was only his family that found out? No, I hate to tell her. Oh, you did? So because, yeah. Well, so how it went down was one of his daughters found out because of the way that she is. I imagined that she would instantly message my daughter. And I went, OK, I'm I'm going to cop to this early so that she doesn't find out by anybody else. Now, backstory is my daughter's a stripper. So really, people in glass houses. And she was honest with you about that. Like she told you like, yeah, absolutely. Right. So you guys have an open. You're kind of very honest with each. She's honest with you. So you felt that you could be honest with her. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, no, I'm not I'm not judgmental. I if you look at her, you go, you're going to make a lot of money. And she does. But so I run her and it was a really difficult conversation. If anybody has to tell your child something like, hey, my parents, other people. Yeah. So when you. I I sort of did this, oh, God, oh, God, sort of situation. And anyway, I ended up booting out, said, look, I'm just going to put it out. She goes, OK, I put it out because she's I think she was getting a bit worried. So I put it out and she goes, is that it? And I'm like, and that is how I raise my daughter. Don't judge. Yeah. Yeah. You've walked a mile and someone else is good. So so she knows exactly. And the only thing that she said to me is, please don't tell me the stories, mum, because I just want to. Fecal. Of course. So yeah, yeah. So that's how that I did. Unfortunately for my husband, his kids, they sort of like, yeah, look, they accused me of doing it for my husband. They called us dirty and disgusting, which is so, so, so far from the truth. I think they're sort of thinking of the old days where you did literally have to throw your keys in and you got landed with Bob and bad luck. And, you know, it's not like that. You know, it's it's it's very consensual and it's very exciting. And it's it's giving. It's a very giving thing that you give your partner, husband, wife. It's a very giving thing, but they don't see it like that. So it's been it's sad for him. Yeah, that he has had that experience. Yeah. Yeah, it's terrible and it's sad. But with your girlfriends that you haven't told and people outside in your vanilla life, is it the same reason why you wouldn't tell them? Because you feel like they might look at it the way his daughters did, like just because of the judgment and everything, because it sounds like you're so open minded that would they be surprised if they found out you present as like this very vanilla person, then you'd be like, oh, my God, I can't believe. Blah, blah, blah is doing this or would they not be surprised? Because you are so cool and open anyway. You know, I think a bit of both. I am a very vanilla. I'm probably one of those people that you would meet me and see me as quite innocent. And until I get my my party on or my sex on, I'm a very, very different. There's no together. Yeah, fairness like I go from one extreme to the other. Interesting. Oh, I just I'm just not very. I'm not very open in those respects. My girlfriends lead to different parts of my life. So I have one girlfriend who's very spiritual and she's lends to my spiritual side. I have a one girlfriend that is is really funny and she makes me laugh. And but, you know, like she is always has issues herself. So I don't tend to lump on to her anything of my life. And so I just have different people in my life and I don't tend to share my. I believe I don't say anything in this. I want it repeated. So that's how I live my life. And so I don't tend to tell them. And it's and it's stopped with your kids knowing nobody else found out besides them. Not that I'm aware of. But hey, listen, who knows? Yeah, like they may not have actually said anything. And at the end of the day, if they wish to approach me, I'll be honest about it. So well, yeah, it is what it is. But I from from what I can gather, it's just my daughter at this point. But look, we do run swing parties in a very, very small community. So wouldn't surprise me if people know they just haven't seen anything to me. Yeah. Well, with that said, has anyone ever showed up for one of your parties that you did know without knowing that you knew who they were? Like, tell me that story, because if it is such a small community, it's going to happen, right? Yes. So I've got two, actually. First time was one of the first couples that we invited over, not knowing who they were, and we were supposed to catch up for a drink. And it was my husband's cousin. So so that that was that was like interesting, needless to say, that sort of didn't really kick off anywhere. And then I had we had we had a party here once and I was working for a particular firm. And I'd luckily left that firm. But I used to work with this lady. She used to literally sit opposite me. And I still work for the firm, but at home. So she arrives up to this party and I am literally looking at this woman who sat across from me, a desk across from me, and she got got in. She came out, she had to pop my cherry. Like she was having a lovely time. We sort of got past the fact that we were working together. And then literally, I had to email her on Monday and you go from a pop my cherry to hey, listen, can you please do this? Yeah. And it's just it's a whole different world. So yeah, I've I've lots of people have turned up that I've even known or know of. Certainly, my husband has known people and known of people. And it is just a smaller community than you think it is. But I always remind people because I think a lot of people that go along to parties don't actually know, you know, they're thinking, oh, God, what if someone sees me? Well, they're in the same damn boat. If they see you and out of respect, you don't mention that. You don't go out and say, oh, guess what? I saw a bomb. You just don't do that. You just don't. Right. What they do in their personal life is what they do in their personal life. It is none of your business to go and tell anybody else. And believe you me, because people have done that to me, that is the reason why I am very closed off and I don't tend to share unless I want it. No one. Yeah. So I've seen both sides. Yeah. Listen, what I always say, because a lot of times I'll hear some comments from people in the vanilla world who are like salivating over people's stories and judging them and they'll leave comments like, oh, would they tell their kids? Or would they tell so and so and sort of judging people? I'm like, who tells their fucking kids about their sex life? Even vanilla couples who are monogamous their whole life don't sit at the table and tell their kids, hey, by the way, like I fucked your mother doggy style last night. Nobody tells it. It's nobody's business about anybody's sex life. It doesn't matter whether you're having orgies or monogamous sex. Most people don't discuss their private intimate life with other people anyway. So why should you and why should your sex life be anyone else's business? You know what I mean? You probably don't know about your girlfriend's sex life either. I just wonder because sometimes girls talk, you say it, but like most of the time, there's no reason why anybody has to discuss it. It isn't something that most people discuss. So totally with you. Like absolutely. If you're in a monogamous relationship and I do know that lots of females talk. I've been a netball team and they all sit round and I've just never been that person. I've never been that person to, oh, well, look, last night, he did this and did that. I'm just not that. So people probably see me as a very innocent, normal, monogamous, get in type person. And that's how I want them to see me. I love that. That's exactly how I want them to see me. And then if they're lucky enough to come along to one of my parties or end up being one of our swing partners, they will see. A whole other avenue to me. Yeah. Like you say, a whole other side, the total opposite end of the spectrum, which I think is like really fascinating that you do live this little life. That if you did talk to your girlfriends, the stories you would tell and they're missing out, you have all the good stories. I'd have to pick them up off the floor. Yeah. Yeah. So tell me, because we have 10 minutes. What would be like, what is your top of the mountain scenarios or tell me the hottest experience you have that come to mind? Maybe is it when you're with a girl or watching your guy with a girl? Is it a couple swap? What do you enjoy the most? What do I enjoy? Enjoy the most? Is there anything or any hot stories that come to mind like the best hottest? To be honest with you, I take every experience as it comes. Yeah. So I think every experience could be good, bad or indifferent. I can say that I've had one particular experience where I had a guy that that he put me up on a St. Andrews cross and I'd never had any whippings or anything like that. And I watched him with his wife first. I thought, Jesus Christ, I'm not sure I can get to this level. He was giving her a damn good smacking. And she goes, oh, no, it's not that bad. And I sort of got on the cross and I thought to myself, like I said to this particular bloke, yeah, look, I'm not a human whooping. She'll just keep it like that thing. But anyway, it turns out I really got off on that experience. Like, and he actually got quite hard because the way he did it and the way that it was done was very professional. I'd been doing it for quite some time and he knew where to smack on the arse that it didn't actually hurt and it sounds worse than it is. But it was also whispering sweet nothings in my ear and like feeling my arse. And I'm like, oh, Lord Jesus, I was wet as they come. Literally had to drag that couple straight into another room. Let's get in. It was really rock solid experience for me. But in general, I take every experience as hot. I don't think there's one hotter than the other. There are some that are definitely not hot, but you're going to get that in any lifestyle play. Yeah. But I think there are some really cool experiences. I haven't had any. Again, the DP was with another female because I don't do anal. So my husband needs to get in on that. And we had an experience where again, he did. He did that with another lady who liked it as well. And that was just off the chain because I loved my husband. So it made it even better. And he's having this experience. And I, I, yeah, literally, he knew. And of course, he went, he went and inserted his fingers into me. And he knew I was dropping, which got him off sort of thing. So that all in all was a good experience. And I guess off the top of my head, the other top experience for me was the couple that I love and I play with. I keep calling her my girlfriend. She's just beautiful. She's stunning. I managed to give her an orgasm that she hadn't had before. Yeah. And so I'm like that, that was top of the charts for me. So they're probably my, yeah. Top of the bar. Yeah. Yeah. Top of top of my experiences. Certainly got some experiences outside of the lifestyle that I could tell you about that would blow your mind. But yeah, in the lifestyle. What do you mean outside of the lifestyle? What the fuck's going on outside of this lifestyle that could top this? OK. Look, I'll tell you, Cathy, this is how open I am. OK, this is a story that you'll probably never hear before. I was asked to be a security guard for two strippers that were going to be doing a sex show. Of course, because I'm so open, I've seen everything before. And I'm like pretty good at that sort of stuff. And I can get the money and blah, blah, blah. Anyway, we went along to this particular event, the event or happen sort of thing. And I'll blase over it because literally it was just the event. And we got in the car and one of the strippers says, oh, do you mind if I use the dildo and I'm driving because they were both drunk. Yeah. So I'm driving and the other stripper says, yeah, yeah, get in. And I'm thinking to myself, OK, so I'm driving along and the girl on the back is using a dildo again, not a big thing, but like literally squirting. She's one of these lucky women that just squirt everywhere. Right. So she's she's going hard. She's filming it for in my space page and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And she happened to be she happened to be in my eye. So every time I was talking to one of the strippers who were sitting in the passenger seat, literally out of the side of my vision, I'm saying, oh, all over the place. See. I'm trying to keep it, keep a proficient driving along at a hundred days an hour along the motorway. I'm like, oh, the crap. I've never seen this before. Trying to have a normal and the funniest thing about it is I was having a really civil conversation, like a normal, not even sexual conversation with the other one, with the other stripper while I'm watching this gush, gush, gush. So that's why we get back to the place. And I say, are you guys good from here? Because we're on a big property and they just had to drive up to the other house. She goes, yeah, yeah, no, we're good. So I get out of the car and I go around and she goes, the stripper in the back goes, fuck in hell, the back seat's a mess. And I'm like, yeah, that doesn't surprise me. Then she goes, oh, oh, I'm so sorry. Here's your jacket in person. Oh, there were the back. That's really covered. In her squirt. Oh, my God. So I'm literally walking into the caravan and my husband's going, what are you doing? It must have looked really weird because I'm holding it in with my finger because it was saturated. So when I gave him the story and he goes, well, that's that's something that I've never I've never like I am the most open person in the world. And that even that's that's something I'll never ever experience again. So I can judge her. Yeah. And I think you said you've probably never heard this kind of a story. And I haven't. And by the way, I've been doing my show for 12 years. I have eight hundred and ninety three episodes, I think, as of today. And I have 40 already taped. So we're talking over 900 people I've talked to. No one has that fucking story. OK, no, no, nobody has that story. And I don't think anybody ever will. If it is a story, I'll never ever forget. Yeah, that's a crazy story. So listen, why don't you do me a favor and give a shout out to your parties because they are big parties in your area, right? So if people are traveling to New Zealand or I have listeners in New Zealand, right, or people that live close by, like, why don't you give a shout out as well to your party and where they could find you guys? Because I think people might be interested if they are in the area. OK, cool. So the best profile to probably get in touch with my husband would be fun for all as in the four F.O.U.R. So it's if you in F.O.U.R. A.L.L. that's on KS. And if you look up live entertainment lifestyle parties, that's where you'll see the parties. Huh? What are they called? The party on Kiwi Swingers would be like look up live entertainment lifestyle parties. That's what they're actually called. Oh, I thought that was a section. That's the title of your party. OK, I love it. That's the title of the party. However, if you wanted to know where to find it or get an invite, if you go on to fun for all as an F.U.N. F.O.U.R. A.L.L. and you will get to speak to my husband and he can direct you or give you an invite or that sort of thing. I do have a single profile myself called Southern Hot Wife. If you wanted to get in touch with me again, I can put you on to the parties myself. We've even got my husband's best friend and brother that actually worked the bar. So we're a close knit family. Love it. So, yeah, and we are a very consensual party. We have rules. We have regulations. You come along, you get a spa pool, supper, all the condoms, lube and all that sort of stuff, toys, cross swing. It's all here along with we both sing. We have a pool table. Should you want to look up the courage to talk to someone? You can ask them to play a game of pool. We have an outside area, smoking area, a place to put your bags. It's it's all here. So if you want to have a good party, a consensual party, a hot party, because we have some amazing people that come along, this is the place to be. And it's growing in numbers by the day. We're we're sort of averaging around about 50 people. I think the next one, it's it's up further than that. We have themes for every party. We don't expect anybody to dress up, but you know, if you choose to, the next one is Halloween. If you choose to dress up, you do. You don't, you don't like. We don't care. It's not a it's not a prerequisite. We just like to have themes so we can actually decorate the place with the different. We've got a whole lot of Halloween decorations. It feels a little bit different, a little bit exciting. And yeah, when we have when I talk to people in the lifestyle, they love the themes. I'm going to tell you that people love a theme night. I hear that all the time. So I think that's smart to have it. I will put all the information to your guys' lifestyle events in the description. Thanks so much for calling in as well. And this is what I love about talking to couples separately. I talked to two people in the same marriage with the same story, but I got two episodes with totally separate stories, right? It's not like you spoke about everything he did. You brought a whole different angle to your guys' relationship. And it was super interesting on a totally different level. Like I love talking to Sam and getting on the backstory on you guys from him. And then I got a whole different backstory on you guys from you. So it's such a great picture of the both of you. So these will be aired like one after the other. I'm definitely going to post Sam first and then you are going to come after. And I already have amazing pics of you guys. They're over on my Patreon and I'll give you access to my discord. And thanks so much, Ronnie. Thanks so much for calling in and sharing your story too. It's great. No problem at all. Thanks, Ronnie. Okay. Thank you. Bye. Okay. Bye. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out till August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cook queen story. There's a cook story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories and they're all told in the third person and they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person and I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. 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