Summary
How Did This Get Made? hosts Paul Scheer, Jason Mantzoukas, and June Diane Raphael conduct a live Chicago show dissecting the 1986 BMX film 'Rad,' exploring its bizarre plot, questionable production decisions, and unexpected cult following despite critical dismissal and distribution challenges.
Insights
- Films with massive critical-audience reception gaps (91% critic vs 0% audience on Rotten Tomatoes) can develop passionate cult followings that sustain decades-long engagement and merchandise demand
- Low-budget 80s films with practical stunts and practical effects often contain production inefficiencies (11M budget for mostly daytime exteriors) that become part of their cultural charm
- Product placement and brand partnerships (Mongoose, Vans, Coca-Cola, 7-Eleven) in films can backfire when associated with antagonistic characters, damaging brand perception
- Distribution rights issues can create scarcity-driven demand, with fans resorting to bootleg copies and creating secondary markets for officially unavailable content
- Casting decisions based on athlete credentials rather than acting ability can create unintentionally compelling performances that resonate with audiences for unintended reasons
Trends
Cult film revival through grassroots fan communities and social media, bypassing traditional distribution channels80s nostalgia driving demand for previously unavailable media, creating opportunities for restoration and re-releaseAthlete-to-actor casting creating niche appeal and authentic performance styles that diverge from traditional acting conventionsProduct placement integration in sports films as early form of brand marketing, with mixed results on brand perceptionLive podcast analysis of cult films as cultural commentary and fan engagement mechanismBootleg digital distribution of unavailable films creating informal licensing and preservation ecosystemsStunt-driven filmmaking as primary production cost driver in action-sports filmsTwin characters as 80s cultural trope reflecting broader fascination with duality in antagonist design
Topics
BMX Racing History and Culture1980s Film Production EconomicsCult Film Phenomenon and Fan CommunitiesProduct Placement Strategy in Sports FilmsStunt Coordination and Safety in Film ProductionDistribution Rights and Media AvailabilityCasting Athletes vs. Professional ActorsPractical Effects vs. Modern CGIFilm Criticism vs. Audience Reception GapsBootleg Media Distribution and PreservationSponsorship Integration in EntertainmentLive Podcast Format and Audience Engagement80s Fashion and Costume DesignNarrative Structure in Sports FilmsCharacter Development in Action Films
Companies
Mongoose
BMX bike brand featured prominently in the film as product placement, associated with antagonistic characters
Vans
Footwear brand involved in product placement; reportedly in litigation related to limited edition Rad shoes
Coca-Cola
Beverage brand featured as product placement in the film
7-Eleven
Convenience store chain featured as product placement in the film
Adult Swim
Television network airing Jason Mantzoukas' special 'Mr. Neighbor's House 2' on June 24th at midnight
People
Hal Needham
Director of Rad; legendary stuntman known for Smokey and the Bandit and Hooper; highest-paid stuntman ever
Lori Loughlin
Lead actress in Rad; played sponsored BMX racer character; career pattern of outperforming male counterparts
Talia Shire
Actress in Rad; cast likely due to family connections to producers; came off Rocky success
Bart Conner
Olympic gymnast who acted in Rad; married to Nadia Comaneci; still recognized for the film decades later
Ray Walston
Older character actor in Rad; performed impressive practical stunt balancing coffee cups
Vin Diesel
Mentioned as attending the live Chicago show to support the film
Quotes
"This movie has never been released in a format that you can get. We're going to get into all this and more but tonight we need to introduce my co-host."
Paul Scheer•Opening segment
"I did not like this motion picture. No, it's not the first one. It's not the first bicycle movie we've done, right?"
June Diane Raphael•Early discussion
"The largest discrepancy between critical and audience reception in the entire database. That's what I'm talking about."
Paul Scheer•Rotten Tomatoes discussion
"I challenge Paul Thomas Anderson to do a better choice at directing an actor than that."
Jason Mantzoukas•Police officer monologue analysis
"Come for the stunts. Leave for the romance."
Paul Scheer•Film summary
Full Transcript
Ass sliding, hill tracks, and bike boogieing. We saw rad, so you know what that means. Her demi cat we stayin' alive, they callin' in the badass and he's on the line. Crankin' 88 minutes cause they cool as ice, cause a bad Jim Barney lookin' kinda nice. Paul and Julin gettin' literal, Jason is gettin' laid. Julin's makin' sure all the monkey shots gettin' paid. They judge a bunch of movies while they're makin' the grade. Here's a real question for you, how did this get made? Hello, people of... What's up Chicago? Amazing. We are live in Chicago with a fucking electric audience. They only make one noise and it's that. So laughter. It will just be... If we say something offensive it will just be get used to it. Ride the volume controls if you're listening at home. Tonight we are talking about a crime and the crime that we are talking about is the fact that this movie has never been released in a format that you can get. We're going to get into all this and more but tonight we need to introduce my co-host. Please welcome Jason Manzuchus. What's up, Jax? How we doing Chicago? Wow. I'm not going to lie, that's fun. Yeah. This is an amazing, an amazing crowd. Jason, Rad, did you see it in theaters? I am the age that would make sense. Did it come out in theaters? It did come out in theaters. I didn't see it. It made hundreds of dollars. I didn't see it. I saw the BMX movie that Nicole Kidman was in. Oh, what was that? What is it? BMX Bandits, thank you. Okay. Oh, if you want to see a... Guys, lights down, give me the screen. We're just going to play that for the next two hours. I would straight up watch a back-to-back set of movies with you fucking maniacs of BMX Bandits and Rad again. Just so you could get a taste of teenage Nicole Kidman BMX bike racing. Just quickly... Yes, Paul. Which is better? Which is better? Rad. I'll be honest, this movie was awesome. This movie has been, we've been told, I've been sent gift packages, I've been sent t-shirts to do this movie. Wait, what? Yeah. You've been sent gift packages? Yeah, like that is, I have a shirt that says Rad Racing, just like this. Oh, that's cool. I got sent DVDs. You didn't get sent three? Look, they know who opens the mail. So... You did. We did all get DVDs, but numerous times over the year this movie has come up. I'm so glad that we waited until tonight to talk about it because again, it's impossible to find. But here's someone who also, in her youth, was a BMX Bicycle Bandit. Sponsored by Coca-Cola, my other co-host, June Diane Rabiel! Welcome, June. Hi, Paul. How are you? You know, I was thinking about this movie and sometimes Paul will tell me it's on iTunes or it's, you're gonna find it on Amazon or Hulu. And I've noticed now there's a pattern. There's something very bad is about to come when it's been loaded onto my computer and is like a quick player file. And I feel like it's from somewhere, I don't know where it came from. But that's how I viewed this movie. Yeah, I sent June a Dropbox link, then went into her computer, downloaded the Dropbox link, and then put it on your main screen. And it will remain on the main screen of your computer forever. That's not going anywhere anytime soon. As every document you've ever written is still there. I'd love it if every time I get an email from you from now on in the, in a tiny window on screen, Rad is just playing. And you're like, how do I turn this off? It's just in a loop. From the moment, from the moment that first bike flew into frame, yeah, I felt so upset. You knew you were in the presence of greatness? I did not like this motion picture. No, it's not the first one. It's not the first bicycle movie we've done, right? There was another like cross country biking, special sport biking. I don't know. I think it might be the first bicycle movie that we have. There's the we have done. There's the rollerskates in solar babies. Yeah. There's a skateboard. There was like a competitive X game biking triple triple X sort of sort of. Yeah. I mean, that's where they graduate to balcony knows triple X. balcony. What's up? I want to a big, big shout out to Vin Diesel for buying a ticket tonight. You're a good guy up there and getting the word out. Well, June, you're the perfect person to talk to about this because I feel like this movie people 91% are rotten tomatoes. This movie 91% I would argue but too low. No, no, no, no, no, no, I say those are joke ratings. 90. Those aren't real 91 on the audience on critical zero zero. It's the largest discrepancy between critical and audience reception and the entire database. That's what I'm talking about. We got to get these critics out of here and we got to get the people reviewing all movies. And we need to give BMX to all the kids now. I want to start at the beginning. What does BMX mean? What is that? Wow. Such a good question. What is it? What does it mean? Let's you know what? Let's try and crack this. I'm going to say bicycle. Yeah, bicycle. Motor cross. Where's the motor? Where's the motor? BM. What's the motor? Where is it? Oh, I think I think it's because it's motocross, but which is a motorcycle event with bicycle. So they just put the B on the front of it. So bicycle motocross. But you don't go to MX. Right. You're not like, oh, are you going to go to the MX races this week? No, man, I can't go. I have jury duty. What? But weren't you, didn't you commit a felony a number of years ago? You can't be a juror. They don't know that, brother. Hang with me, guys. This is a long story. I mean, yeah, I mean, it doesn't BMX stands for here. I'm looking online and you're right. Bicycle motocross or bicycle, you know, it's a form of motocross or motocross. Yeah. Okay. It's a form of cycling, especially designed for bicycles, which usually have an 18 to 24 inch wheels. And the sport includes racing on earthen tracks known as BMX racing. Okay. And yes. So from what I understand, I don't know if that's 100% right as the person who wrote that had a gerbil as their as their like the identifier. So this is where I guess I got confused. Have these bicycles specifically been created to ride off road? Or have they been created to just do these types of races and tricks? Well, you didn't have like a BMX bike growing up and that wasn't a thing growing up. I've heard of them before. It was quite possibly the most important thing I wanted to own. Yeah. What's a BMX bike? I did a paper route for years to save up money to buy a Mongoose bike that I didn't get. I ended up, oh no, I wanted it. I'm sorry. I wanted a GT bike there in this, but I got the Mongoose because it was cheaper. I got a Mongoose too. I was very excited about the Mongoose. And I got a Mongoose scooter in addition. Yeah. Fuck, dude. I was just I didn't realize you were popping. By the way, BMX stunts. This whole movie is directed by a stuntman, Hal Needham, who's known for like every great thing, like smoking the bandit. And is the Needham family here? It was such a localized few number of people. Yeah. That it is quite possible his extended family is here. If you are the children of Hal Needham, please stand up and take credit for his work, especially smoking in the bandit and Hooper. Highest paid stuntman ever. And but stunts in BMX, I will say I was not impressed by a lot of the stunts. I would say this. I felt like the end the racing was tepid at best. I feel like I saw way more bike dancing. That's yes. That bike riding. And I was going to say I thought the bike dancing was electric. Most importantly, at the townwide dance. It seemed like it was a prom. Everyone went to people. People were people were like asking like a girl to the prom type of thing. But then at the dance, there were like grownups just hanging around drinking. Secret drinking. And then the BMX kids show up too. There's a lot of issues. We'll get into that bike dance thing. That bike dance thing I rewound and watched again. We got it all. I was so flummoxed by the dance. And then it transforms magically when the bicyclists come in and dance on bikes. Guys, I found it very romantic. That by the way, that's the takeaway from the movie. Come for the stunts. Leave for the romance. Yes. It does romance so well. It shows all the stages falling in love, throwing them in water, getting dry and then throwing them in water again. It was crazy. I've never seen two grown people just walk into water fully clothed. That many times. He's like you want to go see something. He takes her to ass sliding, which I'm not even kidding, is legitimately sewage runoff. They are in a cement slide that is not for fun. So must be to carry solid waste from a tunnel to a body of water. These kids get pink eye. Maybe that's it. Maybe that's why they have to keep their clothes on. That's right. And that's why like they can't ever get caught because nobody thinks like, well, they're probably out at the shit slide. Like why would you do that? That is it is so crazy. The visual of it. And then they are soaking wet for the rest of the day. But then you think, okay, well, I'll justify that. The day just took them there and they both said, fuck it, we won't take off our shoes or our pants or our heavy sweats. Yeah, just to beat about the clothes they're wearing. Please know it's not like oh, it's T shirt. Right. It's like it's not some heavy 80s fabric that doesn't breathe at all. Yeah. And like pleats. And so many pleats. It's like trousers. Six metric yards of fabric. Make up Lori Loughlin's pants. Yet she is dry moments later. At least edit the montage to be like, and then they get wet and then the date is over. Like let's let the button know they're dry. But so I'll forgive the ass sliding as a one time thing. But later in the movie, what happens? Let's go do bite tricks and flip into the water. These motherfuckers can't stay out of water. Yeah. I think I think once they put all their clothes on, they're at a real risk for just flying into a body of water. About Hal Needham and again, you know, just a tip of the hat to the Hal Needham family over there. Right over here in the Needham seats. The Needham family, large supporters of this theater for many years. They love live theater and stunts. But there was something that was so interesting about it. Stunts on the bike and a lot of them are just like bouncing up and down on a wheel well. The most unattractive, uncool thing to just see someone like go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. It's like, I guess I think visually you don't want to do that anymore. Guys, I know what you're trying to embody picture without the bike. It's weird. Or is it I'm in Chicago for just a little time, people. That's the way I move dancing, sexually, everything. Chicago, everybody's getting freaky tonight. That's why I felt so turned off by BMX riders and riding and the sport in general. You weren't sexually into crew at all. Oh my god. All of the bike riders made me feel embarrassed. They look so dumb. What do you think is a more valid expression of self, break dancing or BMX bike dancing? Honestly, that's a tough one. Both of them require a lot of effort and energy. They both are hard. Both of them, I took classes at at the YMCA. I'm actually going to say, I'm going to say now that I was sad. Now that I understand there is like a price point to having a BMX bike and that you probably had to be wealthy enough to get one, then I definitely will side with break dancing and say it's a more valid form of expression. All you need is a piece of cardboard. You're good to go. Yeah, you're good to go. This movie also, I think one, I mean, there's a lot of issues with it, one being the lighting. And so much so that at different points, I'm like, what's going on here? Like, am I going blind? Why is it so pink? Then why is it so dark? Like in the opening sequence, yeah, like when they're doing that paper boy route, I'm like, what's happening here? Well, the crazy thing about the paper, aren't you a paper boy, Jason? I was so tread lightly. I'm going to try to be as diplomatic as I can. I know. Be careful. I deliver the daily evening. I hear you. I'm going to. There's some of the. I'm going to be really careful. The pink sky. This looks like some sort of Chernobyl shit. I was like, is this post apocalyptic? I mean, my question about this paper route. So from what I understand, and Jason, you know, chime in. I am right here for you, June. Okay, papers, the daily newspaper is usually delivered first thing. Right, you got it. 7am, 6am. What time do you head out? He was, yeah, he was. I had an evening paper route, purposely because I'm not a morning person, even as a child. So, but I think, no, kids used to go out and like go and pick up papers at four and be delivered by five. Yeah. Right, because he delivers his last paper at 7.15. Okay. That town is not up and awake and out and about and in their jobs, all of them, by 7.15 in the morning. You think that's a problem? That's the only problem I saw in this movie. Well, I just didn't buy it. So if that had been addressed to everything else, work for you. Everything else, I would have been on board with. I have a larger problem than the people being out and about was the fact that it seemingly was that his route was just to find the people and give them the paper. If at their job, if over here, it didn't look like there was any houses he was hitting. He was just randomly finding the person. So I was impressed on that level of paperboy. Like I was like, oh, fuck it. This guy's not even doing houses. Yeah. Like the the garbage truck man's like, late. Oh, my paper. Now let me hoist you up on my garbage truck to save you some time. So he can so he can jump over the fence. That was crazy. That guy, that garbage man could literally lose his job for parking on the side of the road, just to boost the kid up six feet. There's also a great moment in this opening, the Paperboy route, where where you I think this is like a remnant of old 80s movies where parents can be like real assholes. Oh, by the way, just to talk about this is a kid delivering the paper to two people in a boat. Two people in a boat. But hang on, those guys live in that boat. And not even a houseboat is a rowboat. He's small and there we go. All right, there we go. The firemen go by. Yeah, firemen. So you're telling me the firemen, the firemen go by every day at that time, all in the truck geared up for a fire or they're on their way to a fire but still want the paper. Is is crew maybe an arsonist in disguise. He sets the fire every day to kind of just make sure he gets those paper boys. I do also at the sorry go ahead June. No, I'm understanding now why the town really comes around to rally behind Tim later on in the film because I didn't understand it and now I'm remembering he really he really tried to get those papers. That's makes sense. He's like very committed to it. I do want to say fashion wise and I'd love to open the table to discuss fashion with you June. I'm ready. First of all, crews rocking the cha-chi bandana around the thigh. Look, I feel like they were trying. I felt like and I'm not sure because maybe they hired crew because he could do because he is doing a fair amount of bike, the dancing stuff. You know, he can do tricks. I mean, so maybe they hired him for that reason, but he does look he does look a lot like Scott Bayo. And they're dressing him like Scott Bayo and they're putting like the cha-chi kind of bandana around his leg. And I'm I'm gonna now just use that as a segue into both talking about his fashions, but also the fashions of the twins. I am obsessed. I want to talk about nothing, nothing but those twins. The rest of this podcast is going to be devoted only to the twins. Those guys, those were guys that when I saw them in a movie, I was like, I want to look like those guys. Those guys were great. I don't want to look like this kid. I want to look like those guys. They were like straight up G.I. Joe from the 80s cartoon villains. Remember those characters like Zemo and Tomax? Like they're they one had a scar on one side and the other had a scar on the other side. Like they were dressed in outfits that I don't think were ever popular. Like oh yes with like a flap that went down here. Yeah, that's a jumpsuit. Holy shit. Their outfit was in the shape of a V. It was like a yeah, it was crazy. In general though, I feel like the 80s was obsessed with twins. Like there was sort of a cultural obsession and a fetishization of twins. It was a big thing. Yeah, the double trouble twins. Of course, my first sexual awakening. Double trouble. Great show. Great show. I mean, you want to reboot a show. Reboot double trouble. I'm in. But they're also like I feel like the twins are not necessarily evil as much as they're just like showboats. I mean, I would say that there's a whole issue as far as like who's bad and who's good in this town because there really is no conflict to speak of more than that one person is the success. The twins and Bart Conner. Wait, is Bart Conner Jim Cotta? No, no, actually this guy. Who is he? Well, this I will tell you that this guy was an Olympic gymnast. He is a gymnast, right? Yeah. Who is Jim Cotta? The other Bart Thomas. Okay, okay, okay, but close, right? He's a okay. So they're not from this town, right? No, they're all out of towners. Okay, they're coming here because this is going to put this town on the map. This hick town that is so not hick, like they treat this town like I'm surprised the roads are paved like really it looks like every regular sized small town. Essentially, I feel like if you have a BMX bike there, it's not a you know, podunk town. If you could get that bicycle in a 10 mile radius, like that's kind of a cool town. Yep. So you think it's probably maybe the coolest town? Probably. I couldn't even keep track though of like all the fat cats and all of the like interpersonal relationships. I just knew I didn't care, but I couldn't keep track of who was who and who was the mayor and why they wanted this here. They were trying to create the Super Bowl like the Super Bowl would now be in their small town because everyone around the world, this is going to air on as many screens as the Super Bowl in their mind. Wait, they said that? Yeah. He said this is our Super Bowl. The airing of the Helltrack race? Yes. Which was at best passable as a race. I have to say that's the thing that upset me the most. The qualifying race seemed more interesting and harder. Yes, yes. A lot harder. And I'm sorry, the qualifying races. I feel like I watched 700 laps of race. Well, they would. It was in real time. I was like, is this now just a documentary about this race? And the announcer talks a big game at the beginning of each race, but then stops narrating the race as it's going on. Like did he win? It didn't look like he won. It wasn't a try. It wasn't like. I had no idea what that qualifying race was. And then they'd send another 10 off and you'd just watch the whole thing again. And then the people who are actually racing in Helltrack, they're also qualifying. But they're coming there to race Helltrack. Isn't this just for the people who want to get like. Okay, so was the qualifying race just for the townspeople? No. No. I believe the qualifying race was to get it down to a final number, a final race of 10, because there were so many entrants. A thousand. A thousand. And I feel like we watched every heat of the qualifiers. And every heat. I believe I watched a thousand people do that. Well, by the way, I definitely know we were introduced to a thousand bicyclists for the actual Helltrack. That was amazing. One of their nicknames was Hollywood. I was like, I'll just play that for one. Just play that. Yeah, this is introducing every racer. It is, if you're listening at home, just picture a very non-plus face for every name. You're not missing any visual. You're not maybe a wave. No visual. Maybe like mild irritation even. Yeah. By the way, that guy looks like he's 40. A number of these people do. By the way, so does crew. Yeah. Well, this is also like 80s movies where all the teens look like they're middle-aged people. Yeah. It's still going. Pulling. Pull! and a divider chair for rap, racing, and drill jump. I was so excited during that sequence because the two twins are from my hometown. Really? I know. I screamed when I heard that. No one is from Bayshore, New York. I was like, yeah, we got twin bad guys. Wait, can I ask? Are they actual BMX dudes? I'm going to go... When I go home for the holidays, I'm going to find out. We watched that whole segment. Every single one of those riders was mentioned. They got a straight-ahead shot on them. Not one of them waved normally at all. Nobody could just give a cool wave. Everybody waved somehow weirdly. If you've ever heard of that... Uncomfortably. If you've ever heard of that book or that website or that awkward family photos, it is the encapsulation of this in video form. No one looks ready. No one looks ready for it. People seem upset that it's happening. It's all... You caught everybody at the wrong moment. It's like, I'm in the middle... Oh, hi. I'm back. I just got to get back in the car. And they're all in direct sunlight. Yeah. Fun fact about the final race. The film built the wall that they start on too high. And all the professional racers were like, no, we're not doing this. And they had to kind of like shuttle production for like two weeks to lower the hell track. The hell track was too high. Can you imagine if like 11 BMX racers were killed on this film? One broke their leg. We saw him. He had the broken leg that they high-five. He was one of the stuntmen. Oh, really? So listen, let me ask. As BMX bikers? Yeah, sure. It's pronounced BMXperts. Hi, BMXperts. All right, all right. That's enough. That's enough. Did you recognize any of these faces? I did not. I would argue though, if you showed me today's best BMXers. I don't know. Matt Mira? Was there... No, that's Matt... He was James Bonding podcast. He's a friend of yours. Promoting Matt Mira? James Bonding podcast. No, but it wasn't there one like there was like, what's his name? Matt? She had that one. So... Why do all you shitheads know BMXRacers? Wait, how many people are here tonight? Not because you like our podcast, but just because you love BMXRacing and heard this was about... These people come and find it. The rad fans are so into this movie. I wish they'd be a little bit more into it because when they did start a Kickstarter, they wanted the crowd-funded documentary about the film called 25 Years Later, a rad perspective. It did not reach the goal. Heart broke. I am heartbroken to hear that. Yeah, this... Yeah, whew. But there is a hell track being built right now, and there's going to be a hell track somewhere in the country. Someone sent me the flyer for it. For real? Yeah. Wow. Well, I was looking forward. I want to go on that big bowl of cereal. Yeah, and I was looking forward to the hell track and seeing what types of obstacles there were going to be. But it did feel like, man, they spent a lot of time trying to keep crews out of this. They should have used that time and energy building more fun things for these BMX guys. I would argue too that the bummer of BMXRacing in this format is that they're just doing the same thing over and over and over again. And they didn't even change what was happening. It was like, oh, they made it. They made it. They made it. Uh-oh, some guys fell. But okay. And what I really didn't like about this film is that... And you can fall, and it's okay. Oh, just get back up. And you can also jump on either side of an obstacle in front of you. Like that tub that you have to go in and ride the thing out of bowl of cereal or whatever. Some people just rode around it. Easy enough. You don't have to get in single file line and everybody ride the spoon out. So why ride the spoon at all? And the thing that really annoyed me is that there was no... There were no differences in types of racers. So Cruz, was he a good BMX racer? I don't... I mean, as Lori Lachlan said, he's got something. Did you see anything different in his style than anyone else's? Absolutely not. There was nothing I was connected to about his type of racing? I'd argue that he didn't even show me anything that exciting besides his bike dancing. He was... No, he was a great bike dancer. He was a great bike dancer. Bike dancer. But that's the thing is I wish that the whole movie had been reversed and that we might have seen the big race or whatever, but that you really see him come into his own at the dance at the end of the movie. That's interesting. Where he's done the racing, which is a big bucket of who cares, right? I mean, I get it. But he really has to, if he's gonna get the girl, he has to win her with his moves. His moves on the bike, on the dance floor. I'm down for that. The most disappointing part was at the very end of the race, there was no special move that won him that race. He just simply got a little bit further. No. And kind of didn't even get to that point. The lead guy, our main hero, was like, oh yeah? I need to stop and wait up for him. Okay. And to what end? Because it's not a race, so why would you ever go like, let me let him catch up and then we'll really see who wins? No, you're racing when you're ahead. So I think that that was his plan all along. To throw the race? Yeah. You think Bart Conner wanted to lose the race to Cruz? Yeah. Because he- Okay, hell need him's family. Yeah, because I think there was something not sitting well with him knowing that he was, you know, essentially the property. Yeah, and he joined in with the team at the very end. Well- He didn't want to be there. Yeah, I had- I know what you mean. I had an issue with the number one BMX biker not competing, which was kind of thrown to the side, like Lori Lachlan, like, he's like, why do you have that number one? She's like, well, self-explanatory, right? I'm the best. And then they go in the park and they jump up on stuff. But when he goes like, why aren't you in the hell track? This weird explanation, which is so bizarre. It's like, it's so odd to be like, she came to town then to what? She's not competing. She says- I didn't get a chance to thank you for the dance last night. You're welcome. You took off so quick, I thought maybe there was something about me you didn't like. No, no, that's not it. Can you pause for a second? You know you're really- He's giving her nothing. He's giving her nothing. This is the day after the bike dance. This is the day of the ass slide, I believe. This is like love. And she's saying, I thought you didn't like me. And he's like, no. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He might as well be a sack of potatoes pushing a bike. But don't you feel that like Lori Lachlan, is that every person I'm like, and if it isn't, that's what I'll say. That Lori, her whole career has been like, being better than her male counterpart ultimately. With the exception of Stamos. Stamos, the two of them though, I swear to God, these motherfuckers are vampires. They love things up. Good, something's up. I mean, it's crazy, she looks better now. And she's beautiful there. What's going on? Here we go. I'm feeling that bike. I mean, you picked up that move like that. Well, I didn't have much of a choice to. So you're gonna ride a health track? No, I kind of wish I could, but I still race for trophies. See, my factory sent me here for kind of a show and tell for me. What? So. Okay. I race for trophies. Okay, so that's a corvette race. Race for trophies. I think, is she saying she's like still competing on a circuit that is like the Olympic version of this? That like. And that this is like pro sports? I mean, listen. They spend millions. They do a lot of stunt winging in this movie. Oh yeah, that. I have that. And they clearly made no attempt to find a woman who could ride a bicycle. Yeah. No attempt. Like I find it hard to believe that there was not one woman in all the land that could have done some of her stunts. Agree. How, how is that possible? I mean, there should be at least one, right? There should be one female BMX racer who could have done this. Isn't that on your special skills on your resume? I'm trying to find, all right, so this is. Just look for any scene that she's in with a bicycle because it's not her. This is basically. It's a man. This is just look. If you just watch Lori's hair. Here we go. Like that is just. The body type is. A broad-shouldered man. Yeah, that's just a man. Here we go. It's a more. Like a Marlowe Thomas wig. That's her face. That's her female body, female body. That's just riding on normal ground. Okay. Okay, there's. This is crew. Into the water. And this is a man going into the water. That's a man, all right. What if she's like a BMX vampire? Like when she rides, turns into her body turns into a man. I mean, I think that's really disturbing though. So not only did they just not find anyone to do her stunts, but then they just take her storyline away completely. Oh yeah. The character can't even be a rider. No, she's not allowed. It's crazy. She's not allowed. It's, it's, it would be unseemly. I, in the grand scheme of things that don't make sense, I agree with you. I was confused with the politics of this town, the old man who's rich, the mayor, but more importantly, the cop. The cop who, and I know this is like a little bit of a deep reference, but the cop looks like Dr. Eggman from Sonic. And the cop makes a speech at the end of the movie to rally the town that I rewound because I don't believe it makes any sense. Oh, and this is, this is. Like he left out a couple of lines. I will say this is, he has been the lead actor's nemesis. It's like, so Hell Needham also made Smoky and the Bear, okay? Right? And their relationship is a lot like, no Smoky and the Bandit, sorry. Smoky the Bandit and BJ and the Bear was the TV show. Don't worry about it guys, it all happened. So it's about a cop chasing a trickster, Roadster, played by Bert Reynolds. This is the same exact dynamic, but with them on bikes. But I would argue the cop is a friend. The whole movie like when they're racing, they're revealed here. No, but in the first scene when they're going through the log thing, he's like, oh the cop's here, he wants to race us. Who wants to do it this time? Oh, I'll do it. Like it wasn't like that, he was there to bust them. Yeah, he was there to bust. I think you read that moment wrong, Paul. Oh. Wait, wait, was he there to bust them? Yeah, of course he was. No, he was just there to race them. And that's what they said. Yeah, wait, wait. That's insane. That's insane and that doesn't happen. Who thinks he was there to bust them though? Yes. Yeah. And who thinks he was there to race them? Yeah. You guys are fucking idiots. The point is this scene only makes sense if we perceived him story structure wise. Guys, it makes no sense. If this is a turn for the cop. We're supposed to be completely shocked that this has happened. No, I agree with that. Otherwise, you're saying the script for this movie is nonsense. And that's not possible. And what we're here to say is how dare you. Don't wind up. This is flawless, classic story time. I will tell you that I believe that. I'm talking the Liz Estrada. No, no, I'm not trying to say I'm talking. I'm saying I'm just talking about the Liz Estrada. I'm talking Shakespeare. I'm talking rad. These are classics. Sorry, Paul, sorry, Paul. I wasn't trying to talk you down. I will say that I think one of the things was is this cop saw something in these kids. He's like, you know what? I'm gonna challenge them every day because one day this town will get a shot and we will get on the map. And I am here to serve and protect. And I am going to protect that we bring home Hal Trac. Paul, I'm so sorry, Paul. The part has been cast. We are reboot crazy people. Put me in a starting egg, man. You're not getting in this part. See, I agree with you. If this is the scene where you discover that's what he's been doing the whole time. If you know he's been doing it the whole time, then what we're saying is what? It's nothing. That's insane, you guys. This is stuff. These are teenagers on BMX. Like, they're natural enemies of the police. His job is to serve and protect this town. He may, in like some area of his brain, enjoy watching their tricks and blah, blah, blah. But he's enforcing the whole time because he has to because that's his job. Despite every instinct he has, he sees what's going on. And for the first time in his life, he lays down all the rules and all the regulations and he stands up for what he knows in his heart is the right thing to do. But it's not easy for him. It's not comfortable, but he does it anyway. And you know how we know he's being real? For the first time in the whole movie, he takes his sunglasses off. He lets us see his soul through his eyes. He says, look at me for real. I challenge Paul Thomas Anderson to do a better choice at directing an actor than that. Here is the speech that makes no sense. And the best thing about Rad is he can interpret his motivation in a myriad of ways. Just a moment, just a moment, please, please. And I have a word here. He walks fully to the stage. He walks the whole way. I thought I heard it all, till now. Oh wait, does he not take him off? I've watched these kids grow up. I've chased every one of them. I think crew and his friends have done something special. Real special. They've given themselves hope. And all your talk about dollars is killing that hope. If someone doesn't see that crew has this opportunity, well, I guess we'll just all have to learn to live with it. Are you guys in a polygene? He didn't take off the sunglasses. But he pretty much did. I almost feel like you put on a pair of darker sunglasses. In many ways he did those things. You know what? His words metaphorically took the sunglasses off for him. If you are an acting student out there, if you are a professional actor, and they say, hey, bring a monologue next time you audition. I say- To that end, I would say, bring the monologue from Miami Connection. Oh yeah, that's pretty great too. But if someone else in class is doing that, bring this. I mean, that speech will have to live with it. Okay. Okay. And he's like, we're talking about money, but what they were talking about was raising money for him to be able to raise. To compete. Well, I am still grappling with the question of where did they get the capital money to buy all those T-shirts in the first? Oh no, well that guy, the evil man in this movie, the BMX bad guy, he worked for Mongoose as the small patch on his suit told us. So he was a Mongoose person who was like, I spent millions in merch, and if this kid wins, I'll become very successful because I've like forwarded his career. If Bart Connor wins, he needs Bart Connor to win the race. But you're asking why does crew- Oh, sorry. Initially, yes, crew's crew with his sister, which we haven't even spoken about. Oh, she was so cute. I just want to shove her in a garbage can. She originally, they were able to make $10,000 worth of T-shirts. Where did that money come from? Oh. Yeah, the qualifying race- Made $10,000. Got him $10,000 and he used that money. Instead, remember he was going to use that money to whatever he was going to do. He instead turns that into trying to get sponsorship because that's the next hurdle they throw in front of it. With the rule book where they're adding rules at any given point. There's like, here's another new rule. They're constantly trying to- So he took the 10 grand, invested it into the T-shirts. Correct. Thinking he would make it to 20. To try to make the 20. Keep in mind also into painting his helmet and making a shirt for him to wear. But yes, that's where the 10,000 was. Well, no, no, no, that shirt for him to wear wasn't that designed by that elaborate ploy where everyone in the school was building an outfit for him that was very lackluster. And one nerd was doing all of their homework. Oh yes. Yes. I was gonna see that. What was that? One nerd was like, one nerd, you do all their homework and then we'll use all of their seamstress, their painting skills. And everybody's, I'm here to color T-shirts. That was the other thing. They were dyeing white T-shirts red. Red. Which was a thing we used to do. It's cheaper to get that white material than- By the way, they missed a real opportunity to tie dye that uniform. I was like, how fucking red would it have been if that red shirt was tie dyed? Fuck, we did a lot of that. Anyway, and so they make all that shit and the kid comes in and he's like, well, I'm here to paint T or color T-shirts. Here's my homework. And they hand the homework off to someone else who's just doing all of every subject. I, this- Well that's like every 80s movie, smart kids are punished for being smart. Oh, you know what, and this is, I was gonna say too, in the beginning, smart kids are punished and also parents treat their kids terribly because there's that opening scene where the mom's pulling out of the driveway and she goes, if you don't shut up. I was like, wow. We're getting hot early in the morning. To be honest, I miss those days. I miss when people would just like scream profanities at their children in like the mall. Why don't you shut the fuck up? By the way, you know, we keep on saying rad and that wasn't the actual title of the movie. It was changed very late in the game and I'll play this clip and maybe you can see what the original title might have been. Whoa. You can do it. Just pretend you're in a lumber yard. Go balls. Balls Out was the name of this movie. If, wow. June, you don't look like you like the title, Balls Out. I would argue if this movie had been called Go Balls Out, it would have won an Oscar. Every year since its release. I mean, not to go back to the policeman's motivation, but after seeing that scene, it's just become clearer and clearer. He was just doing his job until he couldn't anymore. Oh my God. How did this get me? How did this get me? I mean, arguably too, if you're talking about awards and handing out awards, I'm sure that Talia Shire just came off of Rocky. She read the script and was like, great part for me. Like, no reason to have her in this movie. She's great. She's not doing anything bad. She's not doing anything bad. This is a Schwarzman Coppola family movie, I believe. Is it? Okay. John Schwarzman producer, Jack. Jack Schwarzman producer, I'm assuming is Jason's dad. Oh, okay. Who I believe that makes Talia Shire either a sister or a cousin. Okay, that makes sense because I was like, it makes no sense that she agreed to that part in this movie. And it also likely means that Nicholas Cage was almost in this movie. By the way, huge missed opportunity for Nick Cage to play both twins. Oh, amazing. You know, in our remake, we have the offer out to Nick Cage to play both those parts. At the age he is now. He really wants to play twins again. Now, did, did crew crew crew? Did crew ever take his SATs? No, no, in six months, right? Wasn't that the thing he'll take them in six months? Yeah, but I'll miss college. So we just never know if he took them or not. Well, he doesn't need to know. He's number one in the world. No, that was the whole thing. That was her whole thing. Well, regardless of the outcome, he was going to take them. If his mom had been a little bit more forceful and maybe said, you know what? Unless you take those SATs, no racy. Oh. There's the guy that kept saying no racy. I thought that was gonna get a much bigger response, guys. I'm not gonna lie to you. Because I wrote it down because I was like, I don't like that this guy keeps saying no racy, no racy. Really thought that was gonna hit. You know what, Chicago? I don't like you anymore. You know, it was, no, no, it's over for us. Take your Luma-notties and get the fuck outta here. We talk a lot about the stunts in this movie, but I have to say the best stunt in the film was when Ray Walston, the older man in the movie, balances two coffee cups. They were not glued down. He kept that plate almost at a 90 degree angle at some point and those coffee cups stayed on top. I thought once I saw that, for sure, he was gonna be in the hell race at the end. By the way, I would have loved that. I did. I was waiting for it. And it was his $27,000 that made up the gap. Yeah, what's his background? Where did he make his money? I don't, I'm unclear where he has that money from. He worked in a place where someone else was there. We know that there are two coffee cups or he likes to drink a lot of coffee. So because that's no small chunk of change to just throw to a random kid in the town. He is shark tanking it. He sees potential and he's like, I'm gonna sit on $26,000 worth of merch because I know I'm gonna resell that shit in a couple of weeks and I'm gonna get my money back. I would finance currently a movie that stars just him and the little sister. Oh yeah. Solving a mystery or something. She was amazing. She was baby Catherine Hawn. Oh yeah. She was so good. She was like the, she was the equivalent of the little brother in Teen Witch. Yeah. Let's hear. I felt, actually I take it back. That's the movie I want. I want a movie where the brother from Teen Witch teams up with the sister from Rad and they solve a mystery. If these movies were successful, you might have gotten it. Let's just have a little taste of the two of them together. Brue, you were late. Hey, forget that. What was that terrorist act all about back there? It just bugs me I have the stupid kids in Bart so rad. We're better than him. And if you could raise a school child, one chick would. I don't know, that bar guy's pretty good, West. Bullshit. Mom's right here. Come on, let's go faster. Hey West, how about a shower? What are you doing? Yeah, there's like some actual real stunts with kids that were stressing me out. Yeah. I thought maybe what might be fun is if we if we went through the dance bike section, we can maybe keep the volume down a little bit and just see what we're just talk through what we're seeing because this is the scene that I feel like we do need to kind of go through. I'll keep in mind again, this is it. What appears to be a school dance, but is in fact a townwide dance. Yeah. Laurie Laughlin comes in. Man. Man Laurie Laughlin comes in. He, she's like rides the bike into the dance hall, which is an odd choice. There's no one else there. Then he goes in after her. He's never bike danced before. Could you pause for a second? This would make so much more sense if they had been boyfriend and girlfriend. Yeah. If their relationship was such that there was more energy between them. So that she was choosing crew instead of Bart Connor in a way that was more meaningful. Well, and also crew had a crush on a woman named Katie in the beginning of the film. Who appeared to hate him. Yeah. Everybody in town is so dazzled by both the fact that he's such a good, nice boy. And or he's totally rad on that bike. She is like, he chases her and she's like, will you go to the dance with me? And she's essentially like, go fuck yourself crew. I don't know what she's up to, but she's not playing the game. She doesn't wanna be with the BMX dirt riding. You know what? Listen, where she's coming from is just like, she doesn't like the mode of transportation. She's like, what are you gonna pick me up in? I thought she couldn't go to the dance cause she has to care for two children cause she's 40. I said, I said, is this a teacher? That's like, because she's so dismissive. Like I felt like her line was gonna be, crew, I'm your teacher, this is inappropriate. Or actually wait, what year is it? It might be totally appropriate, unclear. I will say their meat cute between crew and Lori. It happens because a woman is in her car, she's like, the oven's on, my cake will get burnt. It's like, all right, let's stop the parade and get this woman to get to her cake. That woman was not right. She was not. What, the town cake lady? Yeah, she left me feeling very unsettled. She also left her home while the oven was on. Yeah. No, she's not a well person. She started baking and went out for an errand. She's not okay, you guys, something's very wrong with her. There's no oven and there's no cake. And there's probably no house. Later on, later on in the town council, or whatever the fuck that was at the town meeting, and then again, when they're watching the qualifying races, I mean, she's obsessed with crew. If she is sexually obsessed with crew, like the real love story should be told from her point of view towards crew. The reality is if you have this few people to round out the town, don't shoot it in an enormous room and don't add extra chairs that aren't full. I'm not even kidding. There are more people. So many extra chairs. So many empty chairs that are just reminding you, either people are not coming to town meeting or they cannot afford any more extras. Honestly, got more people showed up at the Stars Hollow town meeting every week than showed up to this town's meeting. Well, Jason, if you're saying they couldn't afford extras, you probably think this is a low-budget movie, right? How much money do you think this movie costs to make? In 1986. 1986. $4 million. Yeah. To make? To make, you're asking, right? Yeah, the budget, the budget of the movie in 1986. Seven, four to six million dollars. Okay, so June. I'd say about three million. Okay. 11 million dollars. Where? Where? 11 million dollars in 1986. Paul, that's like $46 million right now. Genuine question. Did they build the town? Did they build all of the infrastructure of a small American town? Because that is the only way they spent $11 million to make the movie rad. Because, and this is maybe a little inside baseball, but there's not even many interiors in this movie. It's all daytime exteriors, which is the cheapest thing to shoot. 11 million, and when it came out an opening weekend, it did make $408,000. I don't know, maybe it was on all those BMX racers. Maybe they just really wanted to make their quotes. How much could they possibly have cost? By the way, they're getting sponsored, yeah. All of their brands are being represented in the movie. That's like product placement, essentially, all over the movie. By the way, if you're mongoose, why are you letting yourself be like the douchiest? You get like, if you're mongoose, you're like, great, we'll be in the movie. And you're like, everybody's gonna hate your brand. Everybody's gonna associate you with the twins and the blonde douche. Well, there were rad vans. Like, vans got in on this too. Well, if there is some sort of... Coca-Cola 7-Eleven. What is it? Coca-Cola and 7-Eleven. Oh yeah, Coca-Cola, yeah. Vans, I believe, is in some sort of lawsuit with rad. Oh, really? One of the only bits of trivia I do know. There's a, here's the... There's a message board about this movie, by the way. Limited edition Vans Rad Shoes. Look at the end, it goes, this shoe's only available at your local authorized participating Vans dealer. Can I ask this audience a question? Is anybody here wearing the rad shoes? I feel like it's something that could be possible in one of these shows. And the answer is no. You failed us, Chicago. That's two strikes, baby. Two strikes. All right, so we were watching the dance scene. We'll get back to the dance scene, but I will say, when we're talking about, oh, it would be great if Laurie was maybe dating Bart. I would argue it would be great if Bart was anything evil. He simply seems to show up, be cool, dance, and not really get in Cruz's face at all. He's the best, he's the best guy at this. We know he's already established as the champion, you know? He just seems like, I don't know, if Al Pacino came to your town, he would be just as aloof as Bart. Like, he's like, yeah. What's interesting about it? Why's Pacino coming to town? Pacino was originally supposed to be- Oh, for the acting of? Yeah. Did your town host the acting of? It was a Super Bowl of acting competitions. What's interesting about his performance is that I actually thought he was doing a great job playing one of those guys, like a snowboarder who's just like, yeah, I'm really good. I'm here, I've got not a ton going on up here, but that's okay. Like, not a lot of light behind the eyes. But like, I'm here to do the thing you've asked me to do. And when I'm done with that, I'll leave. By the way, Bart, Olympic gymnast Bart, married to Nadia Komenich. Oh, wow. There they are getting married up there. You see them right there? Oh, wow. They look so happy. And here is Bart just talking about Rad. When I look back at the film all these years later, people often talk to me about Rad. And it's kind of funny because literally I meet people who know the movie Rad, but have no idea that I used to be an Olympic gymnast. They just know me from Rad. And I mean, literally I have strangers. I'll be walking down the street and a guy'll stop me going, dude, Bart, awesome! And then they just keep walking. And it's all these years later and I still get it. Who would have thought that the film would have such a intense cult following, but I'm really proud of that. That's, it seems like a very nice man. Leslie Kai. Yeah, so I wonder if people come out to you and you're like, Jim Caughta, right? By the way, if you're recognizing that dude from Rad, you are on a facial level of recognition that is unknown to me. You know, very different. That's very different. It's only like you're like, all right, so now it's 2018. Here's a guy in 1986 who was a child, got it. Yeah. I don't think I could recognize my family that I haven't seen in a couple years. Yeah. Did anyone else find it troubling that the prize was not a bicycle? It was. But a car? Yeah, that is odd, right? All right, so we'll just watch a little bit of this dancing. And the thing that it was so kind of, and I guess I like, who gives a shit? But I am at least like, they just start bike dancing as if it was the thing that he's done before. Like, you can't just be like, follow me. Like, she's like, a little gliding on the bike. And you think maybe they'll just do tricks to each other, but they're not doing tricks. They are bike dancing. Lit like they're at the Olympics. And I don't know where they're getting that height and jump from because there's no ramps in there. So this is like. This song is fucking awesome. All the songs. This is amazing. Like, this is. There's nothing more erotic than this. Can you just describe that? Because I just want to like. She's basically gliding in like, in like a dance position on top of the bike, like a goddamn angel. Sent from heaven above. As the song tells us. I mean, I would listen to this soundtrack and Body Rock all day long. I urge you to go home tonight and fuck to this soundtrack. It's on Spotify. How about Break the Ice? That's a good song too. Break the Ice. Yeah, so she's like doing this, which I don't think is a possible move. This is not a move. He's just still, he's doing his, he's doing his jump and she's flying. I love this. There's a showboating. Who's that kid? It's hard to believe. These are the old men at the dance. Who have been set up to be getting drunk. Yeah, they've been putting alcohol in the children's punch. Now, now they are standing on the phone. They're going so slow. That's the thing that makes me, you can't slow stunt. That, look at this. Send me an angel. Well, guys, I mean, this is, this, this. As Jason said, send me an angel. We see crew lying flat on his bike arm extended. I mean, this is unreal. You know what, we're having so much fun talking about the show. I have to get in the audience here and talk to them about this movie as well. I want to point out that someone brought this amazing sign. If you remember in the film, there is a moment, a non-ironic moment where crew meets up with Lori, they're in an ice cream shop and he tries to get her back. Can you pass that to me? Great, thank you. And, they're in an ice cream shop and it says, having a friend like you makes me happy all over and he points to it like, yeah. And it doesn't make any fucking sense. This is amazing. Thank you for making that. What's her name? Christie? Thank you, Christie. We can give it back to you too. We can keep it or we can give it back to you. I don't want to join you to think that we just took it from you like, aha, it is ours. It's ours now. Yeah. I'm gonna kiss it all night long. I'm gonna go down there, I have to come down this way. I'm looking for a title that you think a one word or two word title that you think would be great for this movie is you ask your questions and want you to think about that a one or two word title. Who has a question, something they want to point out. Yes, sir, come here. Sir, your name? Tom. And your movie title? Wictown. Nice. So two things, I was also enamored with the twins in the movie. So first thing, so I looked into Rod and Rex. They are now successful screenwriters and they wrote the Conjuring and the Conjuring 2. Yeah. Yeah. And also the jumpsuits that they wear at the dance were borrowed from the set of the miniseries V. I was, I wrote, okay. I wrote down, I wrote down on that thing, I was like, these people look like they're from V. And then I said, I can't make that reference because it will date me. Whoa. Whoa. We have someone. Whoa. We have someone in the audience dressed in the V outfits. Someone's wearing one. And please stand up next to him dressed in Laurie Laughlin's X-Men outfit. Oh. Oh, and look at this, very excited. Wait a second. Three costumes, three amazing costumes. Can I ask you guys a question? Are you also Hal Needham's family? Please take a picture of them. We'll put that up in the show page. Guys, those are three people that want to talk to you after the show. Who else? Over here. All right, sir, your name, your title, and your question. My name is Nick. My title is Screw College. Got it. And my question is, looking at the ending credits on my copy, a lot of names were blanked out. And I was wondering if we know any reason why these people opted not to be referenced. I am looking at this picture that you've taken. Yeah. Wow. It is like, it's like classified document level blocked out. Like a redacted cast list. Yeah. Wait, Paul, where did he say he found that? On his copy. Again, this is a copy that people are getting in ways that only true fans will get it. They're not sanctioned, yes. We don't know where it's all coming from. All right, I wanna get a lady here. A lot of guys. Where is it? Here, okay, here. Here, all right. Here's, all right. We'll get to you too, hold on. All right, your name, your title, your question. My name's Laura. My title is Radical Youth. And my question is, can we get an age for Lori? Cause she's dating a teenager, but then she also says she's the top BMX biker in the world and she's traveled the world. So I'd really like to get an age on her. Yeah. I'm wondering, is she, she's not a high school student. I don't think so. I'm gonna say she's like 20 and he's 18. Said no? No, no, I'm sorry. I'm not saying the actors are that. I love the guy in the audience that just went, nope. I can tell you Lori Loughlin's exact age at the exact moment she was making this movie. You, sir, are wrong. I think she's meant to be a bit older. Yeah. I'm up in the balcony now. Yeah. All right. Paul, be careful. Be careful. The balcony is dangerous. All right. Can you come to me? I can't come to you or I'll die. Okay, sir, your name, your title and your question. My name is Martinsi. The title is, she's 20, he's 18. And my question is who is watching the sister of Kurt? She is just roaming around town most of the time. Yeah, while the mom is ironing in the basement. That was, but that was the age too. That's the age. I feel like that's like the town is raising that girl. Yeah. I wasn't worried about her. You know, but I also wouldn't be surprised if she ended up like being abducted on a train car and being taken somewhere. I don't know. No, she didn't make it. No, yeah. Out of there. Definitely not. By the way, the sequel is not so rad for the sister. She passes. I didn't make it. I just had a thought here too. I just realized the mom had no reaction when the brother put her in a garbage can. She didn't say like, hey, stop that. Well, she knows that girl is trash. Did we ever find out how their dad died? There was some mystery surrounding that. I agree. I suspect foul play. All right, here we go. Oh boy. There, all right. I feel like that Gordr is in trouble. Sir, your name, your question, and then you can show me your pictures. You should show me your pictures. So at one point when rad racing is selling the shirts, the Mongers crew shows up in what appears to be the Corvette that is the prize. For the race. He has proof that it's BS. Yeah, like. Okay, dude. Yeah, we should have believed you. Like, why are they driving that car? Paul, Paul, is that a picture? That's a picture? Yeah, it's a picture. It's a picture from the movie. Why do I feel like if we go to this dude's house, it's gonna be one of those red line, a wall of things. And he's like, I'll bring this and I'll bring this. Then they'll believe me. I know. I'll be the final question. I mean, I do it honestly. I will. I'm also doing some intersection. I will not have any disagreement like they had about the cop if I bring my picture. But by the way, he's right. I guess they like kind of let them. Yeah, they did, but I'm doing some rigorous investigation of myself because I just feel like, wow, have we presented a people up here that like you thought we wouldn't believe you? Like we believe you. I'll be honest. You believe. I'll be honest. I'm inclined to not believe you, but I'm more scared of you that you brought the picture. I believe that he is a member of that small town who finally is trying to get that town meeting to pull it all together again. Was that picture like a glossy photo or what? It was a computer printout to be fair. Oh, so this dude's like, oh, don't worry. I've got a color printer. So you know what? I take it all back. It's a fucking brag. It's a brag. He was like, I'm going to bring my picture so that everybody knows I've got Kai and Toner at home. He did. That's just the kind of fuck I am. And I applaud the use of the picture because it is a podcast. So. Oh wait, can I get house lights up once again? Just briefly, I'm so sorry. I just want to acknowledge everybody. But if you're wearing a rad racing shirt, please stand up. All right, we got one. I like it. Two. Security, get them out of here. Okay. Obviously we have opinions about this movie but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions. I'm watching a film, loving it all. It's the thrill of a movie. They say it's bad. I'll say it's a ball. And I just got a comment. They're calling me stupid. Saying this movie's putrid. Well, I've had enough. I'm going on to Amazon. It's my second opinion. And you know I'm gonna write it. It's the power you feel when you share your terrible feelings. I'm giving it five stars. I don't care if you don't like it. I won't take it back cause it's already on the internet. Yes. Give it up for Sera. Give it up for Sera. That was great. And if you want to hear five other ones, stay tuned for after the episode and we'll put them all back to back there. We didn't want to cut any of them out cause they're so damn good. You know what's interesting? They just all left, right? Yes. Two of them sat in the lower audience. The vast majority came from the balcony. The balcony's not afraid. Oh no, a couple of them went over there. Guys, I'm all wrong tonight. Here we go. Rad, second opinions. These are cold from Amazon. Like I said, this is only available on Amazon in a bootleg version. There are only... I'm always available on my computer. I will always have it. There are only 110 reviews total. There are only 110 reviews total because again, there's no official seller. But I will start off with this one and it may be a little navel-gazy, but why not? The title is Paul Shearer, I Hope You Like the Movie. By Kyle from Georgia. I sent the copy I bought to Paul Shearer at How Did This Get Made. Hopefully they'll do an episode on it because it's one of the best movies of all time. Can I ask you a question? That means your name on Amazon is your own name? So anybody who sends you stuff from Amazon knows it's you? Oh no, he sent it to the address that we have for the show. Oh okay, okay, okay. It didn't just arrive at our home. That is, if that person has your home address, move. I wanted to hand deliver this copy of the movie, Rad, and also let you know the exact age of Laurie Laughlin when she made the movie. This one is from Regina. Regina writes, husband about peed from excitement of finally being able to buy this on DVD. Thank you, five stars. That is a couple that is into water sports. Peter F. Loader writes simply this, he watched it four times the day he got it, five stars. Wait, he said he watched it or I watched it? He watched it four times the day he got it. I don't know. Wait, there's not previous information. Nope, that points to the- No, but you're not saying- What are you talking about? Yeah, okay, hold on. The balcony's got us all mixed up. Wait, I swear to God, it's all balcony. It's all balcony people that write these reviews. He also titled the review, five stars. So the title of the review is five stars, and then it says he watched it four times the day he got it. Yes. This review is haunted. Sounds like a balcony monster. And finally, I don't know if this is funny, but it's intense. This is from Andrew F. And he goes, I am a huge Rad fan. It was my favorite movie growing up and still is. I've seen this movie hundreds of time on VHS, and on a DVD copy I bought years back. The DVD quality wasn't much better than the VHS, but at least it had a menu with chapters that I could watch on a DVD player. I have always tried to keep an eye out for a better quality DVD and was skeptical when I found this because it said HD quality, and I found that hard to believe because this movie has never been released on DVD. I figured I would give it a shot because it was only 20 bucks, let me tell you. It's the best $20 I've ever spent. The quality is unbelievable. It looks better than some Blu-rays, no joke. I don't know how they got it to look so good, but it's well worth your money. I was telling my brother how good the movie looked, and he thought I was full of it until he watched it. 10 minutes into the movie, he was like, I'm gonna go on Amazon and buy myself a copy. If you are a fan of this movie, you need to buy it now. You will not be disappointed. I tip my hat to Frankie's custom classics. I don't know how you got the movie to look so good, but job well done. I have been waiting for something like this for a long time. Thanks, five stars. Oh, wow, Paul. You really embodied that gentleman. That was amazing. That was a transformation. That's a model you should use, Paul. That is fantastic. That's my contemporary model. I guarantee that dude, A, is single, and B, talks about rad on first dates, 100%. All right, so we've said a lot about rad. I wanted to go and ask you, Jason, would you recommend this movie? One million percent. This movie, and I will say, the colors were poppin'. The dancing was both erotic and also romantic. Two things that I just adore. I thought the ass slides into sewage was an interesting choice, but I enjoyed it. I thought the little sister was a home run. This movie, T2B, top to bottom, was fucking rad. Yeah. Yeah. June. It's hard, you know. I know people like this. I see the numbers, I hear the response, I see the t-shirts. I know that there's an audience out there. You see the cosplay? Yeah, there's a cult following. I don't understand it. Yeah. Do you think if you watched it seven more times, you would? No, I mean, I just sort of, listen, this movie's not for me. It's just not anything that I care for. So, I had a really difficult time watching it. I hope to never watch it again. I know I'll never drag that file over into the trash, but I did not like it. I will say, like that stranger whose eyes widened when they saw Bart Conner walking down the street, 30 some odd years after the completion of this film, my eyes too were open to the balls out nature of this film, which I also say is rad. Okay. This, yeah. Okay. This to me, this sits comfortably in the pantheon of movies such as Miami Connection. These are movies to me that are like cut, not just because their t-shirts are similar. The red shirt with the black text. This was a pretty spectacular film. 100%. Here's the deal, people. There's so many people to thank here for the show. Nate Kiley, who does all of our research, good on him. Good on all the people sending me all that rad merch. You've convinced me we did it. The hats off the people. But also, fuck you. Yeah, I mean, thank you. But also, fuck you on behalf of June and I for sending us zero merch. There's nothing. And a big thank you to Averill Halley, who cut all these amazing clips and found that clip of the Olympic gymnast so, so good. As we wrap up the show here, because we are running a little bit late, I'll just ask, does anyone have anything they wanna plug? So at the end of this month, Adult Swim is gonna air June 24th. At midnight, Adult Swim is gonna air a special that I made with Brian Husky, Jesse Falcon, and Rob Cordry. It's called Mr. Neighbor's House 2. It's basically, pause, it's the idea, what if David Lynch created the Mr. Rogers show? It is super dark and fucked up, and it's very funny. So please watch that. Yeah, I'm good. You're good. Well, I'll simply plug. I have a new podcast mini series with Amy Nicholson called Unspooled. Thank you very much. Unspooled, but you can get anywhere with PodGazerd. We actually watch good movies, and it's been super fun to do that. Thank you, Chicago! Yeah! All right, it is now time for second opinions. Yeah! Yeah! All right, yep, good, all right. How does a badly-acted cinematic pile of shit get past the studio and get green lit? How did these actors get roped into this garbage fire? Lori Lachlan, I can see, but come on, really? Tell ya, Shire. Movie about BMX, who the hell asked for the Sikoriograph dance scene on bicycles? Are you serious? Cost 11 million, pray to God it makes it back. Otherwise this thing is headed down on a hell track. Well, the world got around. They said, damn, this film is real bad. All the critics hated it and said it wasn't very rad, but a few brave souls tried to save its good name. So they went online to earn their fame. What's your claim, man? Here's my second opinion. This film deserves five stars on Amazon, but it still left me with one big question. How the fuck did this get made? Woo! Give it up for Brian. Brian, Brian, Brian, Brian. Give it up for Brian. Brian, come on over here. You stand over here. That one's for Lin-Manuel Miranda, everybody. It is now time for Second Opinions. Yes, I believe that this movie was good. I know I'm not alone. The bicycle dance was my favorite scene. It still holds ups, it's true. Lori Laughlin, Tallya Shire was my favorite. Tallya Shire was great too, and some guy that plays crew. I got along on to Amazon to give this movie its due. BMX Racing gets my heart pacing, got a review to do, a review to do. Critics say it's bad, but I love rad. Second Opinions. Second Opinions. Five stars. Five stars. Second Opinions. Second Opinions. Five stars. Amazing, what's your name? Mallory. Mallory, give it up for Mallory, come on over here. Chicago, you got great songs, they're all long, you got them, they're great. Alright, it is now time for Second Opinions. Woo! Don't stop me now, cause I got a strong opinion. Gonna post it online. Don't ask me how this movie even got made. This movie's a favorite of mine. I'll use for spelling in my second opinion. All caps like I'm yelling, these are second opinions. Five stars on Amazon. Give it up for Bree. It is now time for Second Opinions. Frozen in silence, watching this red flick. Gotta keep my cool, watching them do sweet ass tricks. It's a game of wills, we're playing. Opinions made us steal. Balanced on the edges of everything I feel. It's gonna take all we've got. Just to make it through this plot. Gonna do it on Amazon. And by this crap tonight, get ready to rate five stars. Feels like no one else agrees. Topping it in all caps. I'm gonna make you see only I can make it right. I can rate this shit five stars tonight. Beautiful. Give it up for Jeff. Come on over here Jeff. Great commitment. It is now time for Second Opinions. Alright, stop. It's time for Second Opinions. Saw a rad film. Now I got a new mission. This movie did everything so rightly. Bought the DVD, watched it daily and nightly. I gave it five stars. Why? I don't know. Just turn off the lights and then join the show. Yo, to the extreme. I write reviews like I'm Cisco. This movie did it right, but it failed in the fiscal sense. It's not as good as The Room Still Sweeping Up. Razzie's like a bomb ass broom. Every holly making clips like a melody. A movie this good should count as a felony. Jason and Paul here to show you the way. Go balls out, you know, crew don't play. If there is a plot hole, yo, Juno's solve it. Check out the flick while the disc is revolving. Yeah! Colin, give it for Colin. Alright. Give it up for all of our Second Opinion people. Thank you. Walk off the stage there. Get out of here. Get out of here. What I will say is this. I'm sorry, Paul. The other 10 Second Opinions are ready to go. So bring them in. Jeff Tweedy. Chance the Rapper. Ken Van der Mark. Chicagoans.