Ep:203 Monsters of Chestnut Ridge

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There's a really large cemetery up the hill from my house. And that's where this thing was, was like above the cemetery. So we all got in the car and went up there. And we were like, you know, trying to get video of it and stuff. And so we're sitting there and it just starts to slowly drift off. We tried to follow it in the car, but we lost it. And that thing was incredible. There's a lot of weird stuff going on around this area. Thank you. Chadwick Gills to the show. Chadwick is the founder of the Chestnut Ridge Paranormal. Are you from that area? Yeah, yeah, I actually live on the Chestnut Ridge and that's where I do most of my investigating. So did you hear about things going on around that area throughout your life or is this something new for you? there's all kinds of stuff that's been going on here for years and like growing up here you hear all these stories you know it's like mostly from relatives and stuff like that because i'm related to half of the mountainside around here so there's a lot there's a lot going on here and i've pretty much grown up with it is that what got you interested in the paranormal and cryptids and all that sort of thing i've kind of been into it all my life pretty much like back when i was a young kid i was into horror movies and stuff like that and then you start hearing these stories about things out in the woods and kind of gets your interest you know it's like piqued my interest for sure but like the one thing that like really got me into it It's like, you know, you get up, you go to work, come home, do whatever. Same thing over and over and over again. I started getting bored with life a little bit, you know? Yeah. And one night, I went out to my truck. It was a Saturday night. It was like 10 o'clock at night. I went out to my truck to get, I think, a backpack that I take to work. I looked up in the sky and there was an orb I'd say 150 yards up I mean it's kind of hard to tell distance things like that but it wasn't up real high but it wasn't like real close to the ground and this thing I compare it to the size of like a Volkswagen bus it was pretty big and it's just started like it got real bright and then it just dimmed down and went out then it lit back up got real bright again then it dimmed down and went out it started flashing it turned colors a couple different times it was like it went from white to blue to green i think and then to red and then it went to white again and it just kept doing that it would like dim down go out and then it would light back up and it stayed in the same spot for almost well i'd say a little over an hour huh yeah it was crazy so we we all got in the car like my kids they were uh young at the time they're adults now so it was a while ago but we all got in the car and there's a really large cemetery up the hill from my house and that's where this thing was was like above the cemetery so we all got in the car and went up there and we were like you know trying to get video of it and stuff and so we're sitting there and it just starts to slowly drift off and it just took off we tried to follow it in the car but we lost it and that thing was incredible i mean that's what really got me into doing this i was like you know i'm gonna take a bigger look into what's going on around here and yeah it's not disappointing i'll tell you that there's a lot there's a lot of weird stuff going on around this area. I've talked about the chestnut Ridge a couple of times on the show, uh, for anybody listening, that's not familiar. It's just kind of a geographical region in the Pennsylvania area. Um, does it extend outside of Pennsylvania? Yeah, it goes down into, uh, close to Morgantown, West Virginia. It starts in Indiana County and Pennsylvania. It goes down through Indiana County, Westmoreland County, Fayette County and a little bit into Bedford County. And then it stops right outside of Morgantown, West Virginia. So what are some of the more prominent stories that you've heard in that area? Wow. There's a lot of Stan Gordon. He has a lot of stories, stuff that happened in counters like, you know, UFO encounters, Bigfoot encounters. He's pretty much like the, the, the goat legend of the area. Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah, I've talked to Stan quite a few times. He's a nice guy. He's a real nice guy. One day it was, what was it, March 26, 2021. I went to this place pretty close to probably only about 20 minutes from my house. It's called Betty Knox Park. and i heard that there were like a couple bigfoot sightings up there you know i heard through the grapevine i'm going to go check it out and see if i could find any kind of evidence or anything so i went up and this place is like it's mainly known for like fly fishing stuff like that because there's a decent size creek that goes through it and then you drive back a long dirt road to a pretty big parking lot and there's like hiking trails and stuff like that but on either side of the parking lot there's a gas line pipeline so I got the bright idea I was like huh I'm going to take a hike up this pipeline and that was a bad idea it took forever to get up everything was so steep but I got up to the top and I saw these little like crevice caves in the ground you know like I jumped down in one looked around a little bit didn't really see anything so I climbed back up out and I started hearing like a really weird whistle it was like like a whistle but it had like a buzz of electricity in with it you know it was it was like creepy I kept hearing it and like I'd try to get to where it was coming from and it seemed like every time I got close to it it would stop and pop up somewhere else like you know 20 yards away over to the left or 15 yards away over to the right. And I'm like, what is going on? So I kept trying to do that. And every time it would just like stop, pop up somewhere else. I was like, well, that's enough of this. So I hiked back down over the pipeline. I got in my truck and I started driving down the dirt road to get out of there. And I'm driving along. I just happened to look over toward the creek and I seen this big sand bank. I was like, huh. thinking to myself you know that'd be a good place to look for tracks not really expecting to find anything or anything like that i went over and man when i went over there it was crazy first thing i saw for these two trackways coming up out of the water and up the sandbank and then there were just tracks everywhere like all over that sandbank all over the place they were uh 14 inch long three-toed tracks they were crazy looking i've seen these tracks on your video oh you have yeah okay cool and now are these i just recently spoke to daniel benoit on the show and he talked about some large three-toed tracks in pennsylvania Are these the same tracks that he was talking about? Probably. I would imagine. And he had like sent images of them to Ken Gerhardt, I believe. Who said something about. He's heard, you know, rumors of, you know, people letting go pet alligators and stuff in Pennsylvania, which I don't see how that would ever be a thing. But sure. We'll go there for the sake of argument. I have seen the tracks. Those are not alligator tracks. That's not what alligator tracks look like at all. Not at all. I'm at a complete freaking loss, man. Those tracks are freaking crazy. The thing that gets me about it, it's like most of the people I show right away, they say, oh, that's some kind of big giant bird. Okay. But a bird doesn't have a humanoid looking heel. Right. You know? Yeah. These things have a heel like a human almost. It's crazy. That's what blew my mind and just completely boggles me about it. I'm just, to this day, I'm like, what the hell made these tracks? Uhm, I understand that you want to listen to your podcast, so I'm going to keep it short. Because if you think it's important to make a lot of choices, can Acer maybe help? Now I think, how then? Well, for example, when you're paying a lot of things that you love, you're not going to be a lot of money. 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So we can listen to your podcast now it was crazy you said originally that they came out of the creek they originated from the creek yeah two distinct separate trackways uh not necessarily running side by side like a four legged animal or something no these they were like i'd say there was probably about four foot in between the trackways you know what i mean like beside each other yeah so you could tell like there were two things that come up out of the water it was crazy it just i never i never expected in a million years doing this stuff to find something like that it just it completely blew my mind i mean what was the first thing that came to mind whenever you saw the tracks as far as like what they were honestly i thought dinosaur yeah that's what they kind of look like you know it's like what in the world totally bizarre totally bizarre but that's not even the best part here's the best part i got the bright idea i'm like i need something to cast these with so i took off you know i went to walmart got some plaster flew back up there i'm mixing up the plaster started pouring a couple i hear a car door slam like oh boy i look up here comes a game warden What? Like, what is this guy doing? He comes walking over, and I mean, he was just eyeballing me. Wouldn't say a word. I'm trying to talk to him. Wouldn't say nothing. Looking around, staring at me, looking around. I'm like, hey, you ever seen anything like this, buddy? Yeah. Can you identify this? Yeah. Well, he comes walking over, and he just starts rubbing out the tracks with his foot. What? Yeah. Yep. sort of dragging his foot through him covering him up i screamed at him to stop you know i'm like freaking out i'm like what are you doing man i'm trying to cast these and you're over here rubbing them out trying to destroy them he wouldn't say anything he just kept staring at me i'm like hey man come on dude level with me have you ever seen anything like this before and he's staring at me he looks around for a second and he looks back at me and says yeah you'll have that turned around got in his truck and left you'll have that yeah that's all he said he looked at me and said yeah you'll have that like this is just yeah this is something that happens he didn't look surprised at all not at all I could imagine what my face looked like when I walked over and saw that I could not believe it first thing I did I ran back to my truck grabbed my camera and grabbed a tape measure I went back over and started recording. I got, what, three videos? And I have a ton of pictures. I mean, a ton of pictures. And for people that have looked at them, has anybody guessed as to what they might be? Like, is there any sort of explanation that is explainable? Well, I got invited to go on a TV show and they said emu tracks. oh okay yeah yeah emu tracks they don't look anything like emu tracks no i compared you know what i mean i did a little bit of research on it emu hell a six foot tall emu only has a six to seven inch track yeah so going by that logic if they were emus they would have been 12 feet tall and the toes the the distinct three toes and the tracks aren't really splayed out all that much like a bird track no not at all yeah they're like forward facing more than like spread apart and splayed out yeah yeah i'm still i'm still stumped i have no idea i mean that was almost five years ago and i'm still trying to figure it out it's like i'm gonna get on the ridge on the hillside up there i heard a guy told me about some caves up there so i'm gonna go up try to find these caves and see if i can find anything in the caves i don't know if that's a great idea or not but i'm gonna try it out see what happens yeah might run into something i don't want to i mean the the ridge has like you were saying all kinds of stories uh anything you can think of i've i've heard reports of people seeing dragons i've heard right flying manta rays like just crazy stuff yeah i'm gonna assume that dog man would be in that mix as well that's what i said in my video i was like what is this thing what is this dog man tracks because you know i'm spitballing trying to figure it out i'm like i don't know to me they look more like more reptilian than anything you know yeah they i mean i don't know what a 14 inch reptilian track looks like but right they give off that reptilian vibe for sure uh with the toe structure and everything uh but but then it's got that that human type hill that you're talking about which just doesn't match anything and that that's what completely throws me i'm like what in the world is this it's like most bird tracks they have that little skinny toe pointing back yeah you know and this this has a heel so it's like and they're huge yeah and they're huge yeah 14 inches yeah the bigger the bigger ones were 14 and the other track way they were like 12 i think yeah whatever they were they were they were heavy because they were sunk down in you know what i mean a lot more than my tracks were yeah and i weighed a little over 200 pounds at the time heck my foot going maybe an eighth of an inch these things were like a couple inches in so whatever they were they had to be heavy very heavy do you think whatever left the tracks was related to the whistling or were they older than that no the tracks they look pretty fresh to me they they couldn't have been there but maybe a few hours the sand where they sunk down in was still like wet you know it wasn't dry or anything so they weren't there very long well you could see in the video that i mean that sandbar washes out pretty regularly i would guess yeah yeah it does and you even uh i remember seeing like a tree that was broken over over probably from whenever it floods through there and the water's running through there so i mean they looked fresh in the video i didn't see them in person obviously you did is that the only thing that you've experienced in that general area or are there other things that you've experienced around there i got a light orb on trail camera from basically the same area it was up on that mountain side a little bit up on where that pipeline is at first i thought it was like a star or a planet you know what i mean it was just a bright light in the sky and then this thing started to like move and morph and like small ones came out of it went back in it it was it's crazy it's on my youtube channel i mean whenever i was younger i always thought of ufos as like spaceships you know what i mean flying saucers right and yeah and now uh talking to different people you hear more and more stories about these orbs of different sizes and the shapes kind of changing and transforming and you know separating and going back together do you think it's something outer space related or something that's always been here the vibe i get from it is like something that's always been here more than something from outer space you know yeah or like that and then i got a video of one in my backyard one night my wife and i were sitting on the couch watching tv and our security cameras i got a notification on my phone a movement in my backyard and we looked at the video and there's just like an intensely bright orb about the size of my fist just floating around the backyard and the weird part is I opened the back door you know I'm like oh man I gotta see this I opened the back door you couldn't see anything couldn't see it with the naked eye we could only see it through the eye or the security camera weird yeah it was really weird I even grabbed the voice recorder and went out like general area where it was tried to get like you know a voice or something but I didn't get anything I'm out there standing in the middle of my yard asking questions totally normal yeah right my neighbors were probably like what is he doing yeah well they know i'm into this stuff they're they know i'm a little weird i also wanted to ask you about another video that i saw that you posted fairly recently of some tracks in the snow yeah did you see that that trackway is just going in a straight line i i couldn't believe that i was like wait a minute looks awful big footage to me yeah that's the thing it looked awful big footage was that just like a random find i mean what was going on with that i was driving along and just saw it i was on like a back dirt road just taking a drive making a video i didn't even see the trackway at first what made me stop was like a big disturbance in the snow like something got attacked or something it was just like all messed up you know and then i got out and looked and i was like wait a minute and then i saw the track way too i was like what which was really weird because that's what got my attention it was in a straight line it didn't look like a person walked through there or anything and yeah and i mean why would a person be walking through there right right well I was, but yeah, you've got a purpose for being there. Uh, it, it seems kind of odd that somebody would just be out traipsing through the snow like that. Right. Right. Yeah. That big spot that was like all messed up, like something happened there. I don't know. I kind of get the feeling like something got attacked right there but I didn see any blood anything like that It was just like a big disturbance in the snow I don know that one a little weird And that was just the other night too, I think what, Saturday night? I understand that you want to listen to your podcast, so I'll keep it short. Because if you think it's important to make a lot of choices, maybe Acer can help. Now I think, how then? Well, for example, when you're paying for the things you love, you're hurting. Want more information about the insurance where cost-effective services can be? Go to ASR.nl. This does ASR for you and a sustainable community. ASR does it. Now you can listen to your podcast. in that area up on the mountain oh yeah that's another thing from you know whenever you're younger uh and getting into this stuff you think cemeteries and you automatically go to ghosts and hauntings and all that good stuff but there's there's quite a few bigfoot dogmen yeah encounters from cemeteries yeah what do you think the connection is oh man i have no idea i know all this stuff got to be connected somehow like you know ufos ghosts cryptids the orbs all that stuff but i have no idea how it just seems to me like it's all connected somehow i mean you're another one of those people right where it's like you're not just randomly experiencing one thing in your lifetime and then that's it you're experiencing all different kinds of things over the span of your entire life and that seems to be the case with a lot of people right well that's like the place where i found the tracks if you go back to creek about a month you got across the creek again and stuff there is a old cemetery back there in the middle of the woods all by itself and i was back there one day making a video for my youtube channel and something was pacing me through the woods sounded like a like a heavyset person just walking with me down through on the other side of the brush i couldn't see anything i was walking but i could hear it and i'm like what is this so i just started like talking more and more and acted like i didn't hear it yeah and i'm walking down back down toward the cemetery and i'm just rambling on about i don't even know what i was talking about and I'm paying attention to this the whole time I could hear branches popping from it stepping and I get down by the cemetery and I shut up and I pan the camera over and you can hear like two branches breaking where it sounded like it took two more steps and stopped so I took off across the cemetery because I wanted to see what it was I half expected a person or a bear or something to jump out and there was absolutely nothing there nothing it was crazy and I mean I caught those two branches breaking and something was there and when I got there there was nothing there. That was intense. There is another video you were making where you were placing rocks on a creek to get across and something happened. A rock was thrown into the creek or something? Yeah, see that sucks because I wish I wouldn't have had the camera down by the water. You can't hear the rock getting thrown in. But man, oh my goodness was that thing. It was loud. And I could hear it hit the bottom of the creek too. It must have hit like, you know, a solid part of the bedrock or something. Cause it like thumped so loud. I wish I would have got that. So you're going into these areas to record these videos and look for evidence and stuff like that. and naturally whenever you're making these videos you're out there with the camera and you're talking to the camera you're recording dialogue and all that right do you find that things start happening when you start recording like that is that like a regular occurrence for you it seems like it i mean it's it's strange you know it's like i don't really expect stuff to happen but most of the time when i go out something happens it's it's weird do you go to the same areas yeah basically yeah pretty much stick to the same couple of different spots i mean i've had pretty good luck most of them you know i'm just wondering if something recognizes you at this point you know what i mean right yeah yeah that would make sense because that betty knox park I've been going there for 10 years now doing this. I go there a lot. I mean, I've come up with some pretty good evidence there. There's a, I got a photo of a big giant pile of scat my ex-wife found. And it's weird because I know what bear scat looks like. This isn't bear scat. It's almost as big around as I put a water bottle in the picture with it for scale, you know. and it's as big around as the water bottle is huge yeah yeah it's crazy what kind of evidence are you finding up there well like i said most of the time stuff happens like when i'm recording videos you know yeah like tree knocks and stuff like like that video you were talking about where i was throwing the rocks in if you listen when i pick the camera up and i turn around you can hear a tree knock it's as loud as can be i'm just thinking about how a lot of uh bigfoot activity um encounters happen whenever people are just out camping or out hiking uh it's a pretty common theory that you know we're a form of entertainment for them or whatever they come to check you out and I'm just wondering what you out there kind of isolated poking around talking to a camera I talk to the woods too when I'm out there you know what what sorts of things do you say hello I'm here how are you today you know stuff like that friendly greetings and you know do you believe that there's some sort of paranormal or supernatural element to all of this yeah i kind of do from some of the stuff i've seen and experienced yeah definitely that kind of stuff just doesn't happen you know it's like something's got to be causing this and i mean i don't know if it's the energy i'm taking with me or if it's energy that's already there or or what and it's just like ever since i got into doing this it's stuff just keeps happening and it's it's weird it's so weird it's like where i found those tracks if you go across the creek up the mountainside about two and a half miles through the woods there's people live there there's a property there and they got a hold of me last year sometime wanting me to come up and look around because i knew both of them like the woman i knew since i was young like real young but they both said they've seen a werewolf creature on their property so you know that guy that piqued my interest and i'm like maybe that is what made the tracks you know and they have all kind of weird crazy stuff going on up there and like i said it's only about two and a half miles through the woods from where i found those tracks and they're on like on up on the mountaintop and they're out there by themselves. I mean, their driveway, it's about a mile long through the woods and it snakes around. It's, it's crazy. They're out there completely by themselves. I mean, to say that they've got like a werewolf, have they seen it? That's, they both said they seen it. The woman said that she was driving home. I guess a bunch of them were like going to get ready and go quad riding. up in the mountains but she was coming up the dirt road and the road splits if you go left it goes to their place and if you go right it goes out to like a pipeline and like there's like quad trails and stuff out there out in the woods she said this thing come up out of the woods walked across the road stopped in the middle of the road turned and looked at her and like snarled and then turned back around and headed took off up into the woods she said it was about seven and a half foot tall and looked like a werewolf you'd see on a movie or a TV show. Said it was like black with grayish highlights in it and stuff. And she said it freaked her out big time. And then the guy said he saw something through the brush he couldn't really see except for like the lower portion. He said he saw like the backward bent legs and said it freaked him out. but yeah they got some weird stuff going on up there they both said they've seen like bigfoot they both had bigfoot encounters up there he said he walked out on his deck one night and there was one standing by a tree looking at him said it was about 10 foot tall so looked at him for a minute turned around walked off into the woods he showed me the spot where it was and i measured up on the tree where he said the head was and it was about it was 10 foot easy 10 foot i mean you know you got some weird stuff man yeah but somebody's not gonna if your eyes are playing tricks on you or you just got something on the brain it's probably in that type scenario you know driving through the woods at night or whatever you're probably going to think Bigfoot every time. You know, something creeps in your mind, you know, but to say like a werewolf, nobody just pulls a werewolf out of their hat. Right. And she said it looked like a werewolf you'd see on a movie. And she doesn't want like her name brought up or anything. She's like, if you tell anyone about that, I said this, I'm just going to call you a liar and deny it. she wants nothing to do with being known for it or anything. Don't worry, Carol. Nobody's going to say your name. Just kidding. I don't know her name. Yeah, that's, that's crazy. And hearing about Bigfoot and werewolf dog man, whatever you want to call it in the same location at somebody property that would be terrifying They don go anywhere on the property without having either a rifle or shotgun in hand I understand that you want to listen to your podcast, so I'll keep it short. Because if you think it's important to make a lot of choices, can ASR maybe help? Now I think, how then? 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So, we can now listen to your podcast. towards people or anything no no no nothing aggressive and and you've never felt like you were in trouble or anything whenever you were out there no not really huh i usually get like a feeling of being watched but right doesn't feel aggressive or you know it's just no impending doom or anything like that no no but yeah i'm gonna spend a lot of time up on that property this summer i'm gonna see what's going on up there because every time i've gone up i've never had anything happen or anything so i want to spend a decent amount of time up there see if i can get some activity to happen get it on video or something you know have you experienced anything at home like has anything followed you home from up there uh that light orb in the backyard i don't know if that followed me from the woods or if it came from the cemetery up over the hill or or what yeah it was pretty weird though that thing was so bright so bright i think yeah it's on my youtube channel too i think it's called light orb in my backyard or something check out one out that thing's crazy like super bright whenever it comes to the orb stuff there seems to be some sort of intelligence attached to it. You hear stories about them seemingly responding to the person watching them somehow. And oftentimes, it's not like an isolated incident. It's like once you see one, I've heard numerous people talk about, they start seeing them pretty regularly. These things are checking in on them or something. yeah it gets strange for sure have you had any what you would call uh paranormal stuff like ghost stuff happen i don't know yeah kind of i mean a lot of stuff like in my house sometimes it's weird it sounds like there's a woman upstairs talking and it happens every once in a great while but when i catch it it's like it's loud and it's it's there you know what i mean yeah and then it's just over and it's done and it's a completely different feeling than like whenever you hear stuff out in the woods oh yeah completely different yeah it kind of creeps me out when i hear it in the house but then of course me i'll grab a spirit box and start asking questions you know and have you gotten any responses one time i asked are you a female and it said yes that's the only response i ever got and that was true that was 10 years ago maybe have you taken the spirit box out to the woods well yeah i did i had it in that cemetery a couple weeks ago and i didn't get anything but i'm gonna keep trying that definitely gonna take it back out in the woods with me do you have other like ghost hunting equipment oh yeah yeah i got millimeters rim pods i got a couple of homemade sls cameras i was thinking about taking one of theirs out in the woods but it'll probably get a lot of you know false positive stick figures because all the trees and everything right but i'm thinking about trying it i might try it there's a lot of similarities you know people pretty common practice to associate the term infrasound with bigfoot uh people experience infrasound uh symptoms oftentimes in the woods while looking for bigfoot for some reason or when they think bigfoot's around i've experienced uh some physical symptoms myself while out in the woods looking for bigfoot but a buddy of mine bob dominguez who's also the host of bigfoot club podcast uh free plug there um he's been into paranormal stuff his whole life as well and he pointed out that a lot of the symptoms of infrasound exposure are the same as emf exposure that people experience during paranormal events and i would be really curious as to the results of like taking like an emf reader out into the woods and seeing if you get anything i do i take a millimeter out with me have you had any fluctuations or anything not really i mean slight but nothing like major or anything maybe like a couple points here and there but that's about it i mean you shouldn't you're out in the woods right right right exactly yeah but yeah i wish I would have had it with me when I was getting paced and you know that would have been that would have been pretty cool I bet it would have spiked because that was just weird completely weird feeling the hair on the back of my neck was standing up it was just it was freaky it was really creepy but really cool at the same time I don't know that was that was wild that was the only time something like that ever happened to me in the woods and it was pretty crazy what's your main goal with all this well now my main goal is to try to find out what made those tracks and maybe try to see if I can get some kind of hard evidence of what's running around in the woods around here because something's going on something's up there making those tracks and leaving piles of scat I don't know I just like doing it for fun honestly It's like I started doing this for a hobby and it just started picking up and more stuff started happening and more stuff started happening. And next thing you know, I'm talking to Bigfoot researchers and investigators and I'm just like, what? Yeah. Like, what's going on here? It's like, I'm a nobody. And then I got these guys asking me questions about, you know, stuff I've been finding. I'm like, wow, pretty crazy. i mean you're not a nobody you're on the same level as anybody that's doing this stuff um you know there's thank you there's definitely people that have more of a following or a more recognizable name and things like that multiple television appearances under the belt or whatever but whenever it comes to the actual subject matter none of us know anything you know we're all on the same page everybody's got theories and there might be people that have spent you know 50 years out there looking for things and all that but at the end of the day you know we we're all uh trying to get to the same goal it seems of just trying to understand some of this crazy stuff that's happening i know i love how like on tv it'll say someone's an expert yeah it's like no one's an expert in this there are no experts in this i think people can be experts on you know of the lore and the subject matter but whenever it comes to the actual thing itself like none of us know anything people can guess but that's about it yeah that's all that's all we got theories and guesses there's no like hard evidence so what is your theory and guess as to what's going on at chestnut ridge because what it you know it's not just bigfoot it's not just dog man it's not just ufos it's everything do you think it's the area do you think it's like a portal of some kind like what is going on yeah i i do because the energy man you can just feel it around here it's just like something's going on you know it's like it's it's hard to explain but i don't know it's just i get out in those woods and i just start getting these all these different feelings and it's like i can tell when something's gonna happen too like i start getting the goosebumps the hair stands up on the back of my neck i'm like something's getting ready to happen oh boy there's just so much strangeness like high strangeness going on around here i'm surprised there's not more people from this area doing this well you said that you're related to tons of people in the area and that you've heard stories and everything so i mean do people just accept it and just go about their day or pretty much yeah pretty much like normal occurrence around here tell me about your youtube channel man oh yeah it's called chestnut ridge paranormal and i started it just to put all my evidence on i got a lot i think i got like 195 videos now wow got quite a quite a few ufo videos well what i think are ufos because they don't look like conventional aircraft you know it's like what is this thing it's like i see stuff in the sky around here all the time at least once a week it's been like that ever since I was a kid. I was about to ask, is it, is that something new or something that's always been happening? Yeah, it's been happening ever since I was young, little kid. It's crazy. It's just, it's so weird. The stuff you'll get used to. It's like, I'll see something strange in the sky and like, oh, there's another one. So it's, it's so bizarre. If you've had an encounter you'd like to share on the podcast, send me an email at bigfootcrossroadsatgmail.com. check out the website bigfootcrossroads.com you can find links to social media past episodes, merchandise everything you need all in one place and until next time remember there's something in the woods Thank you.