Summer House Scandal, Zack Peter’s Take on Lively vs. Baldoni, and Taylor Frankie Paul’s Day in Court

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And this is how dutiful his life's work has come to a climactic point. And I got a text from him and he was like, oh my God, Heather, what did you write me? Blake's case has been dismissed. Well, it's been gutted. Most of it has been dismissed at this point. Blake suing Justin Bell Doney for that she was sexually harassed, which we have always questioned the validity and the facts of that element of her claims for so many reasons. And, you know, we covered it a lot here, but Zach was always like, ahead of the steps, reading all the stuff, really, in the forefront, it is, I feel like when they do the Made for TV movie, which they don't do Made for TV movies, when they do the streamer movie about your life, I think this is a pinnacle chapter. Well, I hope that if they do a movie about Blake and Bell Doney, that there's like a caricature of me that like is the YouTuber or the TikToker and there should be a parody character that is based on me. Because I was one of the only people that never joined the Blake Lives Matter coalition and believed her story from day one. I was the only one that questioned the New York Times article and I took my beatings from the Internet accordingly and I can now fully sit in my vindication. Do you feel like you're one of those people like I was on the right side of history. I was I'm always on the right side of history. And sometimes it takes a few years for the history to catch up to Zach. And is there anybody that you could see playing yourself because I want to warn you I've only had one time a person play me in like a reenactment. And it was Hollywood ghost stories. Oh, and I told a story of where I thought I was in a hotel with a ghost. And part of my story was when I travel and do stand-up. So there was a girl playing me. And when I saw it, I was I was not thrilled with the choice of the of the day. Just picked like what you would think would be a brunette stand up, but it didn't look like me at all. And so I just want to warn you who knows what will end up being real. It's going to be a lifetime movie. So I'm going to get some like low budget, like, you know, real tick tocker that's going to be grateful for five minutes of camera time. Okay, well, for the people putting it together, you know, you can easily just you don't need to. There used to be a thing in castings where they would say we're looking for a Kathy Griffin type. We're looking for it. And there were there is a story of Tracy Ellis Ross who said she saw the breakdown and said they're like we're looking for a Tracy Ellis Ross type. And she's like, why can't it be me? No one's called me to do it. So you could actually get the real deal. So I'm available. So let's, I mean, in this saga, explain. Okay, so 13 of the things 10 were thrown out. Correct. Those all had to do with her claiming she was sexually harassed on set during the filming of this and us. It ends with us. Yeah. Sorry. It was it ends with us. Yes. So there were multiple claims that she was making, including sexual harassment, toxic work environment, defamation, retaliation, all of these things. And 10 of 13 have been dismissed, including the key ones being sexual harassment thrown out. So that's because the judge really looked at all the evidence and there was nothing that would, would justify this going further or what. Yes and no. So it, because you'll hear a lot of the, the Blake supporters say, oh, well, it was dismissed on a technicality, which is sort of true, but also not because the judge broke it down. And I think it's 152 pages, his full ruling. And he goes into each of her different claims and he makes it clear that, you know, or he at least gives his professional opinion as to why those specific allegations wouldn't stand at trial. And so he dismissed it. I mean, the biggest piece of evidence that really came back to bite her is this PGA letter that she wrote where she was requested. Producer's Guild. Correct. Yeah. She was a PGA, a skills association. And so she wanted the PGA credit on this film by saying, I did all of these things. And she broke it down and listed all 70 things that she did, including overseeing HR on a daily basis. Okay. That's one of the things that she wrote in the letter as to why she deserves this credit. And so then that is what combats her claims. That she didn't have any power on set. And she wasn't a vulnerable employee. So he's like, well, no, she wasn't an employee. She wasn't independent contractor. She wasn't an underling. She wasn't. She had a lot of power on the set. So she wasn't classified as an employee. She was classified as an independent contractor who did yield some power on the set of evidence with us. And he even gets more specific. Like there was one allegation where she's like, Justin Beldoni described his genitalia to me. And then you get into the context behind that conversation. And it was before the movie even started, before she had even agreed to be in the movie. And it was in regard, she was pregnant with her son and Ryan Reynolds was there. The nannies were there. They were hanging out at their house, which she likes to refer to as Buckingham Palace, which we learned from the Taylor Swift text messages that that's what she calls her house. And they were talking about, yeah. Just to like, so. Well, she says because so many, so many famous people come in and out of there that it's like Buckingham Palace, I believe is the message that she. Okay. That's annoying. Go on, yeah. So, but the conversation they were having was about her baby boy and whether, and it was her first boy, and whether or not she was going to circumcise him. And so in this conversation where Justin Balton, he was not her boss at the time, I guess it came up that he is circumcised. And so in the context of talking about circumcision for a baby, the baby that she was about to give birth to. So the judge is like, well, that, no, that doesn't, that doesn't qualify as sexual harassment. And so all of these pieces are all of these different allegations just didn't, didn't rise to the degree of sexual harassment. If you lump them all together, sure. But then you factor in she was not an employee. She had a lot of power on the set. So the sexual harassment piece was one of the biggest ones that got dismissed. Yeah. I mean, really in, in studying it too and going through this for the last year and a half, it was like every single thing really had a circumstantial reason and explanation to it. And really what was the most fascinating part was in myself and analyzing it was what she, who she is as a person, as an actress, married to Ryan Reynolds, as someone who's been married to someone for 10 years, who's pushing 40, who has four kids, who is excited to have a little crush at work. Yeah. Who then, you know, what I like about what I do on Juicy Scoop, whether it's housewives or this is these stories are relatable. Yeah. They are relatable. And so it's like she, what I believe happened, it was a rolling effect of where someone should have stopped the train. Yeah. And it was this whole thing happened. There was arguments or whatever. And she let Ryan Reynolds know that he had come on to her, that this was going on. And then that sparked, I don't want him even near me at the premiere. And because Ryan Reynolds is more famous than because she's the more famous face. They just wanted to like keep her happy, let us get through this fucking thing. And when that press came out and everything, it's the movie still did well, people were fine. Then there was like a little bit of like, oh, she's kind of a bitch on other shows and stuff that popped up. And this is where you make a mistake, whether you're a small content creator or Blake Lively, you start listening and reading and thinking the entire world thinks you're something that you're not. And you start spiraling and then you have a husband that's like, let's spiral together. Yeah. And then fuck this guy. And now we're off to the races. We're going to destroy him. And whether he believed her or not, whether she believes herself, whether they exaggerated, whether someone put it in their head that this is a real thing and it's really happening. The fact that there was no one to just go, stop, stop, just chill a minute. You're all, you're going to be fine. You're absolutely going to work again. Give it a fucking minute. Louis CK is selling out Madison Square Garden. Give it a fucking second. People will forget that you have a little bit of a dismissive bitchy attitude with a makeup artist. Who cares? Had she just let this play out, another simple favor with Anna Kendrick was coming out the next year. She'd already filmed it. And I think had she just let the dust settle and went straight into another simple favor, the movie itself, it's very campy and it's a little cheesy, but it wasn't bad. Another simple favor, the sequel. It wasn't bad. And I think people, I mean, I think people are hating the movie because they dislike her, but I think had she just let that play out and that movie came out, I think people would have won people over again. I actually was a huge fan of the first movie of simple favor. I loved it. I thought it was funny. I thought she was really good. Whether she was playing herself or not, who cares? Like that's kind of interesting. She was great. I originally didn't think she was terrible in the town. I love that movie. Now I die at how bad it is. I die at the parodies of people doing her. Like how she's like, oh, you're the crime stopper. You figure it out. God, you know, I'm the drug addict. Oh, Charlie's going to know what's going to happen. Like now I'm like, oh my God, that was like really bad. And then people look further into it and they're like, why was Ben Affleck driving around at 2 a.m. while he was married to Jennifer Affleck or whatever. And you know, so then you're all those things, but still people move on so quickly. And even women who hate on women or whatever, they move on so quickly. There's a new story in a week and a half in her case. God, learn from it. Like relax, put your phone down. Go on a vacation with your family. Like, like just chill. I think to that same point, I think she thought, let's just do the New York Times. Article and we'll bury him there. I think she thought that that's where it was going to end. And then he just, he called up Steve Sarowitz, his, you know, his, um, what the executive from his production company, who's a billionaire. And he's just like, we're fighting this and they did and they fought back and they came back swinging and now, you know, here we are. But it's interesting. So do you think that she and Ryan and her team never thought again in strategizing what you want to do and then and the team wanting to please her? Yeah. Okay. That's what you want to do, you know, and, and being a sycophant or not really saying or just being too dumb to not go. Okay. So Justin Mildoni, he's best known for being the actor on what was it called? Jane the Virgin. Jane the Virgin. He's cute. He's done some directing. He's not, you know, Martin Scorsese. So fuck him. We're going to bury him because you think, because really he like wasn't into you and you think he called you fat. Yeah. Okay. Whatever. So you think he called you fat? So nobody said, but now wait a minute, honey. What if he doesn't crawl back into a hole and start doing, you know, a Hallmark movie on the side and move to Canada? Yeah. What if his partner who is a billionaire is like, I'm a fucking billionaire dude. No, no, no. I know you're a good guy. We're going to fight this. Do you think that's what happened? Do you think nobody said there's someone behind him that might not crawl into Canada's Hallmark movie? Well, they always knew that he will, that Sarah Witz would step in because they named Sarah Witz in the lawsuit as well. So they barked up that tree. They named Sarah Witz. They named Jamie Heath. They named Justin Baldoni. His publicist, Jennifer Abel and his crisis manager, Melissa Nathan, all of whom have now been completely dismissed. So the only defendants left in this lawsuit are Wayfair the studio and it ends with us, the LLC that we're producing the film. So all of them have been dismissed personally. So just it's not even Blake's battle against Justin Baldoni anymore because he's been dismissed. It's just his studio that stands as a defendant. But I do think they knew that that would be a possibility, but that's why they put so many of these legal protections in place. Like they were really, really smart about how they went about this lawsuit. I just don't think they expected, because once you throw out allegations coming off of, you know, Me Too and Time's Up and all that, once you throw those allegations out there, there's kind of always that stink on you regardless. And so I think they thought that that would just be enough to, you know. And also, do you think this will be like, you know, crisis PR, like 101 like case study, like what to do, what not to do, like going forward in a digital world when she said in her statement, like this is about digital violence. And I'm like, girl, then we're all victims of digital violence. Anybody that, someone who has 200 followers and their best friend looked at their story but didn't like it. They're a victim of digital violence. Like, I mean, come on. Well, that's the, so that's what's going forward to trial now is that retaliation piece. So there are two, sorry, three claims that are moving forward. It's the retaliation in part. It's breach of contract and it's breach of implied covenant. So the last, the case has really been reduced to a contract dispute and whether or not the studio violated their contract by retaliating against her. But so what she'll have to prove in court now is one, she has to prove that she doesn't have to prove sexual harassment, but she has to prove that she did formally bring allegations against them, which as of right now, based off of all the evidence we have, there's no evidence that she brought there, no HR complaints. There's no, you know, emails or text messages to any of the Sony executives. We have one Sony executive, Angie Gianetti, who has already come out and said that no, there were never any formal complaints that were brought against Baldoni or any of the parties. So she has to prove that there were legit claims that were brought. Then she has to prove that retaliation did take place. And this is where she's going to have to say the smear campaign was real and she's going to have to prove that and not that he was just defending himself, but that they were intentionally trying to harm her reputation. And then three, she's going to have to prove that they, they tried to harm, they did and tried to harm her reputation specifically because she brought these allegations. And they were retaliating against her for bringing forth those allegations. But even when it comes down to the contract dispute, and this is what the jury is going to have to determine with the contract, it's really writing on this 17 point list of demands that she made. She halted production halfway through and she said, these are 17 points that I want to make sure for the next phase of production are met. They said, okay, fine, whatever, give her whatever she wants. We'll sign the agreement and say, yes, all 17 points of those will agree to one of them being, we won't retaliate against you. What that means, nobody really knows, which is what a jury is going to have to divine. But they say, okay, sure, we won't, we won't retaliate against you. But that specific contract, the terms of that are going to, are really going to be what the jury is going to have to look at because it was in relation to production. These things cannot happen during production. And at the end of production, she signed an agreement saying none of these things happened. The second phase of production went by smoothly. And the alleged retaliation happened after production. It happened during the promotional tour. So we don't even know if that retaliation even would apply in this case. I mean, and this is why people are like, maybe AI and Hollywood isn't such a bad idea. Like seriously, like, like my God, I mean, the movie was so not good. Like it made no sense that this like, that she's, has this flower shop that, you know, he's just all boarded up. And somehow she manages to get the lease to do dry black, dry flower arrangements. And then the rich sister is like, I'm bored. I'm just walking around with my Birkin and I just want to like work anywhere. I just would like to get a job. So I'm just knocking on a door that's all boarded up and dusty. Do you want me to help you? And I don't want to come in once the place is clean. Let's not hire anyone to help clean us clean it up. Let me just let's turn on the music. And so I have to say, like, it was lame. There were so many lame things about the movie. So it's just like, it wasn't even good. Well, that's Colleen Hoover's problem. Yeah, it's true, but it was lame. So. So yeah, now it moves forward to trial May 18th. And then the sequence, the sequel, what happens to that? There is no sequel. I don't think, I mean, he still technically. There was a second book. There's a second book. It's called It Starts With Us. He owns the rights to the second book to make it into a film. If he wants to, I doubt that he will. Oh my God. His character isn't even in it. Or is not really in it. I wonder if he will though, just to like, be like, you know what? This is the full circle moment. And what if it was really fucking good? Like what if he got someone to rewrite it? I mean, I guess he could. And it turns out to be great. And he's like five years later here is the, you know, the cherry on the shit Sunday, but it actually tastes good. I don't know. I think he would get support. I think people would show up in theaters for him. Amazing. 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Other people saying, yeah, but when you lose someone in your life, whether it's a parent or a child, you need to get back into a routine. And why wouldn't you? It's an easy job. It's a fun job that you liked. And I thought, I think my prediction was like that she would go back in September because I thought she'll take the rest of the school year off and the kids and her will like go on vacation. And then once they go back to school, she'll be like, okay, but it also could be contractual and mentally. Yeah, sometimes you just need to move on, you know, and just go back to your job, no matter what the tragedy is. I think September probably would have been the smarter decision. And she didn't even need to go back to the Today Show. She could have written a book. You know, she would have gotten a good deal about healing from grief and like she could have really turned this into, you know, her next chapter in life. I predicted that she was going to do a sit down with Hoda Copy before it was announced that that was going to be the one on one. And I predicted that by the end of that interview that we would have a date for her return, which we got April 6th, which has now happened. She came back and Joy is her protest. That's the tagline that they're going with Joy is her protest. What do you mean, so it means be like don't. You're not going to, you, you robbed her of her mom, but you're not going to rob her of her joy. Of the joy, okay. Her joy in life. Okay, all right. It's just not that I'm trying to judge her, but it is very soon to be embracing the joy of life, considering you still haven't found your mother. And you don't seem very upset about the investigation into finding your mother. But yeah, listen, she's back. It is a little soon, but I think Hoda Copy was gunning for that spot. So I still think now I do think it was not something as like calculating and weird and conspiracy and about her and what she's reported on and all that. So I do think it was just a crime that happened like a John Benet that we might never know what happened, but it happened. It happened and she's no longer with us. And it was then they took her and then a fake people did the ransom. Yeah. And it was like either they meant to kill her or they didn't meant to kill her, but they took her and they left the house and in a panic and whoever that is, whether it's a deviant essay or or they didn't mean to kill her and they were just trying to rob the house or they're just some weird dude that knew that a rich lady lived down the street whose grandparents would watch her daughter Savannah on the news. Every day and he was like that house must be rich. And he was like dumb and did this. I don't know. I don't think that's I thought I don't think. Well, the latest reports have come out that the house was pretty clean. So whoever did this, I think cleaned up after themselves, which makes the blood on the porch a little more suspicious and then the back doors being wide open also suspicious. I think the family knows what happened. I do. At this point, do you think happened? I think something happened to her. I mean, I've played around with a few different theories, but I think it all goes back to the sister Annie and the brother in law, Tomaso. They were the last ones to see her alive. I mean, you do juicy crimes. You know that statistically and with the pattern of crime, it's usually somebody close to the subject. Number one. And number two, you have to look at what could the motivations be. And then when you look at the traditional motivations, it probably wasn't a crime of passion. Nobody was having an affair with Nancy Guthrie. You know, so it's probably financial. Well, who had the financial motivation? Well, Annie is a poet and Tomaso is a substitute teacher and they just bought a house last summer. So how are they funding their life if it wasn't motivate or if it wasn't linked back to possibly Nancy, who was also they were also her caretaker. I think that Savannah, because it is her sister, she just doesn't want to believe it. She doesn't want more pain to the family. Like, because that's what I originally thought said too. I thought, I thought the mother is helping them or even she secretly was helping her son in law. He was convincing her that he was going to do this great business in Bitcoin. Who knows? She gave money or was giving money and finally they had that last meal and she either told them both or told him privately, I'm not going to help you anymore. And then something happened, whether it was intentional or not. But well, if she's gone, then we will get the money. And there was something that happened with the house recently where they're like, they are able to, it doesn't have to just stay. It could go in the trust. And meaning now they could sell it and stage it and then use the money or they could clean it up and they could move into it. The brother in law and the sister. Sell their house. And then they could sell their house and they could live on that and then that way, if the mother ever came back, her house is still there and not sold. Yeah, no, I agree. I mean, it's just there are too many unanswered questions and there's not enough outrage, I think, from the family and not enough utilization of all of these resources like the Today Show and NBC that could have been used in the first two, three, four, five, six, seven weeks of this case. And the whole, the rest of the world was more invested in finding Nancy Guthrie. So I think Savannah came because she believed her mother was missing. And then listen, if your sister comes to you and is like, holy shit, we accidentally killed her. We needed to get rid of her. Like if it was an accident, it was unintentional. Something. Would you, would you cover up for your sister? Well, look at the theory with John Bonnet. I don't know, maybe. Look at the theory with John Bonnet, Nancy. The theory is that they covered up for the brother for the son. For the pineapple. But then you take it a step further, right? Could she be covering up for Annie? Maybe. But then you go a step further and you're like, well, what other motivations would Savannah have outside of protecting her family? You also have her job and her reputation. If she's known as the woman whose sister murdered the mom, you're forever going to live with that scandal. But if you're the woman whose mom never was found, then everybody can watch you come back to the Today Show in your bright yellow dress and Joy cometh in the morning. You know, Joy is your protest. Like you get to then just be the lady who lost her mom rather than the lady whose sister killed the mom. Yeah, and when you think about, and when you think about it, because she's so aware of these cases, I think about it too. I was like watching, you know, these crime documentaries and things and I'm like, people don't realize that every time there's an appeal, every time that, like then the poor victims, the victims of the family have to go to the court, have to live through it again, have to go through it. So that's always like, oh, you know, they, they were just about to catch the guy and he ran into the woods and killed himself. Thank God. Thank God we don't have to live through a trial and this. You know, it's because it's just, and then, you know, and then people write about you and then people talk about you and forever and they do movies about it. And you don't like the person that played you. And like, it does, it's like when you're, and people don't realize, like, you know, there's always, you always think of the mother or the child of a victim. If you don't think about the sibling, the, you know, the, you should have the person that had to live through it and it changed the trajectory of their life because someone close to them was a victim. Yeah, very juicy, very juicy because we don't know. And that's why it is interesting. And all these factors are something that we can never, there's never been something like this before where a regular, you know, one of the most famous faces in the world because she does a national morning show. Not her child, but her mother, you know, it's like the Lindbergh baby from a long time ago. Like these things are, yeah, and Jean-Maurice wasn't, they weren't famous, but they, because she did the pageants because of all that. And then what happens is they know that these magazines, anytime for the next 30 years, well, there's some weird guy in prison who says that he shared a cell with some guy who talked about John Manette. Okay, at least you're, you're bored, you're out the, you know, all right, I'll buy that magazine, back to magazines or I'll click on that. So they know that there's certain stories that no matter how many years go by, OJ, whatever. Yeah. For 30 years. Finally, the OJ article stopped because he's dead. Yeah. But like it literally anytime there was a slow period, it was like the story would come up again or a new movie would be done. Yeah. Because everyone's like, Oh, I know that one. And it's juicy. And that, that'll be this. It's just, I don't think it will ever. I don't think it will be though, because it's, it isn't a beautiful blonde with who was married to a famous football player who maybe was selling drugs or had a love or like the whole OJ was so, you know what I mean? It's like those factors. It wasn't a beautiful little dot. So I kind of think, I think this story is going to die. And I think it's dead already. Like it's dead. The sheriff keeps telling us this could take years to solve, but she's probably still alive out there, which makes no fucking sense. And then you have Savannah, who's just like moving on. I mean, her sit down with Hoda gave us absolutely nothing other than remember I'm sad. And so that when I go back to the Today Show, don't judge me. Like that was the whole premise of that. I just want to go work and three parts. Yeah. We did three parts over two days. They milked the hell out of that interview and gave us absolutely nothing. No, that's why there are any clips or anything because there was nothing to clip from it. And even, you know, and Hoda was a tear. It was a terrible interview from Hoda's end because she has no fall, even easy follow ups. Like when Savannah's like, we believe at least two of the ransom notes were real. Okay. Why? What made you believe that two of them are real? And also even the bigger fucking question is why didn't you pay them? Yeah. The initial offering for the mom was $2,500 before the FBI stepped in and then upped it to 50. And then the FBI upped it to 100. And it took what? Over a month before Savannah was like, you know what? Okay, I guess now I'll put in a million dollars and go home to New York. And it's like, but didn't she also say I did want to offer a million like the first couple days and the and the detectives or whatever said don't. She hasn't said that. But that is the speculation is that it was likely the sheriff or the FBI that encouraged her not to do that. But that's what we've seen. I mean, the rampsys put that out there early on. Every time there's a, you know, a kidnap ransom movie type of thing, it's always like go meet us at this, you know, phone booth with a million dollars. And you're like, well, if I do this, there's no how do I and then, but if you call the police, we're going to kill your kid. And you're always like, well, what do I do? So it was always like, what do you do? You know, like, Napper is going to play it out on TMZ. Like, yeah, it didn't make any, it didn't make any sense. I mean, and also, there was no search party. There were no cadaver dogs. There was no family with her face on the shirts going out, digging into the desert. Like you traditionally see with high profile kidnapings. Even to this day, the sheriff is not even considering that this could be a homicide. They still believe that there's this crazy old lady snatcher that just took her in the middle of the night and poof, she disappeared. It's like, you don't just lose a whole ass lady in 2026 with zero documentation, evidence, footage, GPS, anything. She had a pacemaker that was connected to Bluetooth and poof, this lady disappeared. Aliens, how do we have come and take a Nancy Guthrie at this point? All we have are little drops of blood, which also mind you, the drops of blood, there was no splatter of blood. There was no footprint stepping the blood in. It's just convenient little drops that are going right out to the driveway that Brian Enten was able to come in in less than 48 hours to come and film with his phone and post that on the internet. I'm not accusing Brian of anything, but I'm just saying who is Brian? Oh, he's one of the news nation. He's the lead reporter that's kind of been in Arizona covering this from the beginning. But the crazy part is he was just able to, within the first couple of days, walk right up to the crime scene and film the blood on his phone. It's like, when do you ever have blood in a crime scene that's not closed off to the public? Like reporters are walking up to her porch. It was just yet the pool guy in the first week going and cleaning her pool. It was so strange and so bizarre. The whole thing was so weird. And it's like, yeah, you wonder, like, is this just the shoddest police work ever? Is it they actually do have major scoop that they're keeping under wraps so that they actually have a case? So they're acting like we're not looking at the brother-in-law? Yeah. And because, I mean, that happens a lot when husband kills a wife. They act like everything's fine. And it can be like two years later. And they were looking, you know, so it's like, but they make the person relax. They don't even call them anymore for interviews. They're just like, we're getting our ducks in a row. So we'll see. We'll see. Maybe it will be, maybe we'll never hear it about again, or maybe we will. That's the only thing I'm thinking that, yeah, everyone's criticizing our stupid county, but we actually just you wait, you know, like, I'm hoping bring the lady home. So summer house, which is the hottest show to talk to be talked about since Vanderpump Scandival. This is where these kids all go in this in the summer. They rent a house. It's been going on for 10 years. And many of them date each other. And they have these parties and they go every weekend in the summer and Kyle and Amanda met on the show. They got married every summer. They fight. They don't have kids. And, you know, some people have been on a little while. Other people come in. And then a couple of years ago, this guy named West came in. Some people call him West. That's the biggest country for some people say is the name West or West. He comes in, not my type. He's kind of cute. He's kind of funny. And so he's a good reality show person. And then this beautiful girl, Sierra comes in. She's black and gorgeous and just one of the most attractive people. And they have a flirty situation on and off this summer. Amanda and Kyle. Kyle creates this liquor company called Loverboy, which is like salsa drinks. And he's like, you need to help me more. And she's like, I hate working, but I have a good body. I want to have bikinis. And then he's just like, you don't support me. And then he's like, you want to be a bikini designer? Well, I want to be a DJ. And then she's like, what? And then he becomes a DJ, which he was good. We saw him at the show after. I had a good fucking time with him. And he was very nice afterwards. And he DM me and he said, thank you for your support. You had a good time and blah, blah, blah. Everyone's like, I can't believe he's a DJ. He needs to be staying home with his wife and being a better husband. He shouldn't be at nightclubs. Thank God he became a DJ because then Amanda was fucking West. And they're going to get divorced. And so thank God he has a DJ company because the Loverboy company is suffering financially. And then some people, you know, then there's more speculation where people were too harsh on Amanda that she's walking around the Hamptons with the Scarlet Letter A, not for Amanda, but adultery. And then, you know, she, Sierra was such a good friend to her. And when she knows that Sierra was still pining for her ex West and then West, did he deceive his friend Kyle and why, you know, so what are your thoughts? And then we'll get into some more elements. Is this a Scandival or no? It's not the level of Scandival and it's certainly not like these players aren't important enough. Like we watched Vanderpump rules for 10 years and like Vanderpump rules had Lisa Vanderpump attached to it. It had real houseways of Beverly Hills attached to it. So it had this cultural pop culture relevance that I don't think summer house has ever peaked. 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No, I mean West is just a typical he's a triple a triple Thirst bucket. Yeah, he wants to be he wanted to be a reality star and so he was he is a player. He flirts with women. You know he's flirted with other women in the Bravo world that I know for a fact in which he like was writing them saying like we could have a PR moment like when a younger person goes for an older real house wife let's go. So yeah let's fuck but also like we could also play this out. So he's very publicity hungry and he's a player and he's been DMing other women so she left who everyone thought was a annoying child Kyle to be with the one you know she's just that girl that a guy shows interest in he's a love bomber and she went for it and people were speculating if this was true and then they came out with a statement it is wild and everybody was like oh my god and then Sierra there was something being that she is a black woman some people felt that this made it extra bad because sometimes white guys just want to experience a beautiful black woman I think it was a typical fling in which he was a player she wanted more he's just a fuck boy. I don't think that meant anything but as her friend and Sierra was such a good friend to Amanda when Amanda's crying every day about being being with Kyle and not knowing if she's going to owe two million dollars and love her boy or not because they don't have a prenup and they kind of want to get divorced and everyone's tired of hearing them fight. That's where it was like it was deceptive. Yes I think the deception is Amanda and Sierra I mean but people are really putting a lot of pressure on this relationship between Sierra and West Sierra and West dated for a summer in 2023 it's been three years. Yeah and they dated for a little bit and since then we have seen West be abhorrent and you know be a whore and sleep with all these women and he's a he's a douchebag player he's not the prize that either of them should be fighting over. But I do agree I think Amanda's betrayal of Sierra is the worst part of it all but I also think Amanda's been in a loveless marriage for a long time where she's never been emotionally fulfilled call Allison Dubois he'll never emotionally fulfill you and Kyle never did and so now she's technically single and West is also single even though he was still kind of keeping Sierra on the burner. They were you know she'd Sierra hated him after they dated and then she blasted him at the I think season eight reunion and they weren't friends throughout season nine and then season 10 comes in and now she's kind of giving him a second chance. And you know and he's not committing to her because he's not the commitment type of guy and I think Amanda got I think he likes to go after the girls that are unavailable Amanda was unavailable because she was married to Kyle and that's where we see her and West be kind of flirty and have this really flirty relationship throughout season 10. And then now Amanda's out of her relationship is looking for some sort of emotional connection which I think West being a love bomber was giving her and he also knew like I probably shouldn't go for her because she's you know she's friends and she just came from my friend Kyle's marriage and like now she's technically single. So I think it was just forbidden for they fell they fell for each other and it's more infatuation than anything and now they have to commit because they blew everything up. And then the lemonade of it is that they have this spin off called the city and Kyle who's now was always the villain. Everyone hated him. Now women are feeling sorry for him. They're saying how can we support lover boy or you know alcohol can company. What can we do. Can I have it at my baby shower. Can we support the discord woman of Kyle. I was I saw somebody did a little funny Photoshop of him being the next Roxy Hart and in Chicago. I thought that was brilliant. I'm sorry. Who is ever joke it was not mine. I thought it was really funny. Anyway I it's good. I'm glad that you have our DJ make 20,000 a year lover boy might make it or not. And now everyone's going to watch your spin off. Yeah. So and you guys had a horrible marriage anyway. He doesn't even seem that bad about it. Well he's like well you know and then they go meet to walk the dogs and the this is the 30 AF Club put this together and Amanda's wearing his hat that West used to wear a shirt that West has the same headphones. She's got all his clothes on to go meet Kyle to walk the dogs and he's telling you know reporters like leave her alone you know she's mentally she has mental health issues. You cannot be on a reality show if you can't take the mean bitches on the Internet. Yeah. You know digital war. I believe it's like but now you run on the show for 10 years what else are you going to do get a job at you know Neiman Marcus which is closing what are you going to do so I get it stay on the show. Who knows though sometimes listen sometimes affairs happen or or whatever where someone very close to you this is why. In the Bible it says thou shall not cover cover thy neighbor's wife it's oftentimes someone you know that's in your circle that you know you're going to swing with that you're going to do whatever that lives next door that's the the mom that you act like your best friends with I'm always fascinated by the woman who goes after her best friends dude. That's why we are fascinated by Scandavall and she's you know and Sierra had shown being such a good friend now the other thing that came up is. Wait hold on let me just okay so first of all I want to ask about these parties so they always have these parties every weekend and it's always a theme and this one was let's be old people or whatever theme. But they had like prosthetics and all that stuff so clearly right the producers have to come in and give them all this costume and it was like it was like complete makeup and yeah awful theme for a party. Yeah I think it was somebody's birthday and so they're like oh you're getting old it's all dressed up as old people but then everybody else at the party nobody dressed up as old so it's just the stars of it doing that with the walkers and the tits and yeah I mean I get it like Vanderpump started to do everything was a theme. Let's be in drag and whatever I it was just lame okay so then and I call you know is looking older and but he launched his non alcoholic restaurant drink place and maybe okay but I wanted to wait I wanted to say that this was interesting so then. This girl Toronto pop zone. People think that it was interesting when Paige was dating Craig and she was on the show and Craig and Amanda were very huggy very supportive and at one moment that someone also caught an old episode. We're pages sitting across from Craig her boyfriend and Amanda is sitting next to Craig at dinner and they're holding hands. I have never in my life hugged a man like this that's not my husband or son. Or gay best friend or whatever I have never hugged someone else's man like that or or held another man's hand like that in my life. Deree Maricio after her burglary. Right she is his his his head right no his like shoulder something so it's weird I think Amanda is just that kind of girl that is very like she doesn't know boundaries with guys and she just doesn't realize yeah she's the girl that gets does the piggyback ride. You're carrying me on your shoulder brother shut up well then you're a brother fucker yeah that was from sleep like life that was from simple favor that was like that was such a good that was so good OK. This guy came across Kurt Walker and I loved this little video he did. He said I have some scoop on West and I wouldn't say scoop but I but it's OK if you did. I want to tell you about it and I do think this says anything it says something about a person and when I tell you I think everyone will agree that this says a lot. He said they were at the summer house party at the house he goes which are not fun and lame and I think we can tell and the party ended and he's a couple of them. Including West said yeah we want to go out with you guys at the local bar so lucky for him I can imagine how hard it is he got the table he knew somebody that had they got on the VIP table behind the DJ booth. And they give them wristbands and everybody when you go to stagecoach or you know anything like that or Coachella coming up this weekend. Everyone knows not to do it super tight in case you want to skip out on the third day whatever they make it really really hard you have to have a very tiny rest or whatever. But this was just he gives them their span and is like don't tighten it so that you know we can go back and forth or bring someone into the thing. He said he gave it to us who immediately tighten the shit out of it on his own wrist. And I think that says everything. Yeah it wasn't your night you didn't get the table you didn't buy the wristbands but you're so entitled because you're this big star that you think that you're allowed to do that. And so then this cat couldn't leave the booth couldn't get a kiss couldn't go say hi to a friend and he was the one that hooked up the whole fucking thing. So I think that says it all. And West is that guy you know he's not and he also like you know he I think he knows had a pander to the Bravo audience he knows had to say like when before all this scandal like the girls did like him because of his personality or he was funny. I just always saw him as a hack and he just always knew what to say and like how to you know get them to like him which to me just always came across very disingenuous but I mean he is cute. I think he's a cutie. I like his little belly. All right good for you. I also love Austin Kroll. I love all the bad ones. Yeah he's fun. Madison. That was my favorite era of a Southern charm. Real House of the Beverly Hills. OK so they're in Italy and it comes down to Dereet which by the way I've noticed she does this thing that's kind of annoying where she's always like she's always like whatever she's talking she's like well. I'll tell you like it was like like she's always like parched a little bit and trying to get it out and she's always like why is it that Kyle was so determined to make everyone realize that I was an issue and let me know that everybody is against me. That is what Kyle did. And to me that is inexcusable. And then for Erica to get so upset because Bose has like I don't know. So everyone is like bitch you've been late a lot and it's been really fucking annoying. And then she's like I'm going through a very hard time Erica and Erica is like so why what's been going on with you. What's going on with me. I still live in it. I still live in a rental. I am still being sued for like a billion dollars. My husband is in prison. Everybody over including me and it is in prisons with Alzheimer's. I don't know. Like I don't know. Like it was when she said that I was like oh my god. Well you don't talk about it Erica. Don't talk about it because I had to talk about it for the last three years but you would still check in with you don't think it's fucking stressful. Yeah. Like oh my god. And so then she they've just had it with her and she is a smoker and she's been smoking the whole time she's been on. And that's another thing that they couldn't reveal. But now that smoking is in they can but that a lots of times she'd be off not checking on her kids but having a cigarette break. And I remember that back in the old days of working at a Robinson's May that I thought wow the smokers get to leave the building. They get to leave the building and have a break. And I was like at one point do I develop smoking. Do I say I have an elderly mother that I have to get home to because I don't have a kid. Like when I was single as a non smoker you got no fucking breaks at a regular job. And I've said it over and over again this is a job. And the longer they're on it the more they're like I was at that boring fucking dinner for four hours and 32 minutes. And you left at three hours and 51 minutes. Therefore I'm fucking mad. Why did I couldn't be in my bed scrolling TikTok 40 minutes earlier. This is why these shows do need to be. And they had to go to all the homeless not toothless dinners. Yeah all that stuff. They did all that for Derete. They did all those things for Derete and you know so that's her deal. What do you think? I enjoyed Erica Lainin to Derete. Oh loved. It was because I think there's just like it was a fatigue that I think the audience has felt of being like Derete. Like we get it you're going through a hard time but also like Kyle's going through a divorce. Rachel Zo is going through a divorce. Bose is having fertility issues. Sutton's going through this identity crisis where her kids are growing up and she's wanting to change. Oh they had Nolat the Catholic Nolat. And her friends dating him. Her old friend might marry her husband in the Catholic Church. I wish we were able to. I know that like legally she has trouble getting into that type of stuff. Yeah that's so interesting. That's still so much that she's like everybody's going through something but Derete just sucks up all of the oxygen in the room. And then when we had to watch. And then why should we feel sorry for you that PK wasn't paying your bills and then you go buy four Gucci bags. Which come on like it wasn't. You don't need four Gucci bags. You don't need the Kelly. No I wasn't like this was the one thing they make in Italy and I've been wanting it my whole life. And it's going to go up in value. So yes I did spend $30,000 on this thing because I see it as a little bit of a nesting. No it was just like no I'm going to show you that I can buy four Gucci bags. And I was just like ew. Yeah I don't want to hear you bitch about your money. It's like when you lend somebody money and then they're like I'm going to actually. Could you add lobster to that Caesar? And you're like yeah. Okay I thought you were broke. Yeah. Because I'm just having the regular Caesar. So like why. Anyway it was frustrating and I like yeah I think that and then when Andy brought up like when she was on the show about the being late being laid on the plane. It's you are never late. I'm not a late person. I believe there's three types of people in this earth. Okay. There's the people who are 10 minutes early or always on time. There's the people that are always 15 minutes late. And then there are the people that are an hour plus late who never feel bad about it. No. Who don't. It's like I'm here. It's such it's the most arrogant thing and the fact that she left them on the plane walked in and was like where do I sit. I mean if that was me and I found myself in that position and it was something related to my kid. Balling I would be like I'm a piece of shit. I cannot believe I made you guys wait. I'm fucking a shell of my human self. Like I I tried to tell the producers they told me to wait. Like I would have just said it all. I would have been like I can't imagine her just being like well no now I do feel badly. Now you feel badly. It's a job. It's a job. Yeah. Even her apology again a job that she needs right. She needs the job because PK is not paying rent. You know and also now not that I'm team PK but not that I'm not team PK but like I I understand him not paying rent on the house because he's like you're literally you just got your book. It like you know where her thing is like well you're the arrangement was you were supposed to always pay for the house and you were supposed to always pay for the bills and after a while of her just draining all of the money like I would be no matter how good a divorce is now rich you are the spending that you had when you were a love. Yeah. If that's your transactional marriage that you can shop and he you know love you I want this that's going to change you know one's fucking they're all of me together. He's in an apartment if you're going to keep the house like curtail the glam curtail the shopping I am look I get it I get it. The CEO is in this family drama. He is father who I guess he is the father and the mother divorced a long time ago. He's had this one girlfriend the father for 18 years 18 years and my understanding is they he and his sister are now suing this girlfriend of 18 years for you know like they don't think she's taking care of the elderly father who has Alzheimer's well enough and they're suing over $400,000 which were gifts over the years that the father gave her and also that she spent the money on a facelift. I don't have all the details. Okay. I'm telling you what I think fuck you if I was the girlfriend. Yeah. Fuck you 18 years is not 18 months. No. The father's is significant. You're going after $400,000. I would hope that if someone to you. You're going after some fucking jewels that he gave her. Yeah. And then she got a facelift. Most women in Beverly Hills get a facelift after a certain age. Your own wife has gotten one. Yeah. So is your sister-in-law. Your daughters have had work done. What does it matter. So the woman that took care of your dad for 18 years. And then all and if he has Alzheimer's whatever. So now she's not a good enough care. You go visit your dad who doesn't know who I am anymore. Yeah. Who she took care of him for 18 years. I'm sure he wasn't in pristine health 18 years ago. I'm sure he's slowly been deteriorating. They were never married. Guess what asshole. That's why you marry the girlfriend because one day you might need her to actually really take care of you. If you don't marry her. Yeah. She's free to go. She's free to say hey your dad needs you guys to visit him and you need to put him in a home because I'm not in the will. Yeah. I only got a few pieces of jewelry over the last four 18 years. Yeah. Isn't there a law in California though where if you're together for 10 years there's like common. No that change wouldn't gay marriage pass. That's my understanding. The gays ruined it. The pal is called Palimony doesn't exist. Palimony doesn't exist anymore. We may need to reverse. We may need to reverse it sometimes. My understanding is there was a time where Palimony when you're with someone for seven years you could sue for Palimony saying I've become accustomed to this lifestyle. Then I believe and a lot of gays would use that because they couldn't get married and then my understanding is once they got married that kind of went away. And so if you are in a non marriage and you're in a transactional thing where one of you makes the money and maybe one takes care of the home or the kids or the pets you've got to make sure that there is a if you're not married some type of agreement where you're like for every year we're together I get a million dollars or buy me this piece of property. It's called real estate for a real reason. It's real property. It can't be jewelry that can be stolen. It can't be lost on a trip on the sea. It can't be revoked. You know like put my name on a real piece of property and then your nasty kids can't take it from me when you die and they act like I never I never was there for 12 Christmases. Yeah. Then he was seen with he's got a girlfriend some girl from Love Island. I'm tired of him and all his little 23 year old girlfriends. Well she was she has a house in Kyle house in Nashville and she's been spotted by many people enjoying a cute lunch with Morgan Wade. I'm going to make you love me. Well she came and bought a house in Nashville. I don't know why you live in here. We're just friends but good for her. Good for her. She's just a fun town. She's Sierra chasing West or they or they just have a good time together. I could see her moving on from the house. I'm very curious to know who will be in the cast next season. I think they'll be a big shake up in Beverly Hills. I think there has to be at this point and they're moving towards such younger cast now like Rhode Island just premiered very young cast besides I think this one woman who looks like Dolores who from New Jersey pops over to like bring it together but they had one episode and the juiciest part of it is there's this really pretty girl who's like 30 who is a lives in an enormous gorgeous home and she's had this boyfriend for like 10 years or something and they're not married and she doesn't have kids and he just goes lives in Miami for six months when it's better to be in Miami than Rhode Island and then when it's nice in Rhode Island then he's her boyfriend and she just waits around for six months but she doesn't have to work so it pays off and she comes out with story right away because she's like this is probably why they picked me. And I think because they're not married either he doesn't even know she's doing this and she's like well if you break up with me at least I've got a job or she's like well you're gonna realize how great I am and you're gonna get rid of Miss Miami but I mean now everybody knows who he is who probably they figured out who the woman he spends with in Miami and his dad was some famous judge or something and so he's they're very very wealthy and he's so that I think is pretty juicy. Yeah I mean I think shows look I mean it's at this point the playbook has become so transparent right like Bronwyn you you're in a weird situation so you go on the show to give you your second leg and then you can leave the relationship and you know You either get your real estate license or you get on the real housewives and then sometimes you have to do both. Yeah. Sometimes you have to do both. Gina. From OC. Yeah I mean I don't I honestly don't know if Rhode Island has legs. That's my hot take. I wasn't I kind of like look I'm I'm curious I think it's interesting groups of people I think that people have said you're going to die there's so much like juice behind it. That's what they said about Dubai. That's what they said about the Roni reboot. Well we'll see. That's what they said about the family. Like the Ashley I is interesting. She's from the bachelor. I was a fan of her because she was like an old virgin and she then falls in love with the other guy she met on that was in the bachelor franchise. They have two of the most beautiful boys. They kind of both they kind of look like brother and sister first of all and then they made like these beautiful like eyes are like I don't know they're just really cute. And so she's in the thick of it now she's two little boys they run this coffee shop but he was from Rhode Island so like she gets in it and I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I mean I think the sweet spot of housewives is you are married and you have some kids but they're kind of older and they're not really part of it. Like maybe they're like 12 and above. Yeah. And so you have time to go out and go on things and you're not looking like a bad mom if you go out and you're not looking like a bad mom. If you go spend a week in Ireland or whatever like there and I just feel like right now there's a lot of shows that are a lot about little babies and little kids but whatever might be good. I don't think it has legs. I think it needs a scandal to keep it around. Otherwise it's going to die like Dubai. All right. The valley came back on the poster. There's 13 people that doesn't include Jesse's girlfriend that's come to the play. Lacey the juiciest part was Lala who her second daughter so she went and you know they part they shared it on Vanderpump rules and everything that she after having the breakup of her relationship with her at the time. Who produced her daughter ocean then she wanted to have another baby. So she got one to a sperm bank. And when I was talking to Lala back then and she was telling me about it I go are you going to buy the whole lot and she goes what do you mean and I said. If you can afford to or if they can give you a deal you should buy the whole lot because I have friends who have done this and then they find out you know that oh well maybe it's nice but maybe it's not my kid actually there's 13 other people. But you could also not know and possibly those two people could fall in love whatever it's just so if you can. So she did do that and they have this scene where she's joking with Luke who's Kristen's fiance and they have a baby together that so so looks like him and then he goes I actually did donate sperm and she's like haha but not to my sperm bank and he goes no I did. And then they go back and they're like she's like he's he's this he has a business degree and he's like I do have a business degree like. But I think did a follow up that they actually did a test eventually and it's not his kid right. Well it's definitely not his kid because she saw what the guys looked like you have to see. No she didn't. This is what you don't know. Really. They give you only baby photos. Oh that's weird. Baby photos or childhood photo photos. You could kind of see like I told her my friend who did it. Okay but she did it twenty two years twenty something years ago as a single woman she was forty and she I go how did you choose. And she said I chose a sperm that I mean I chose a man which I only saw baby photos that looked like me because she was blonde and fair and she's just like I want the baby to look like me if I'm going to have a baby. And so I said that to Lala too. I'm like you might want to like you know choose something that really kind of looks like you. And I said and she said they only show you the like childhood photos. So you could kind of go oh this sort of looks or whatever because you could run into them you could find them you might recognize them from Tinder like it's to protect the donor. Interesting. So I don't know if that works the same with eggs. It doesn't. But at least and I think maybe any place could have their own rules. Yeah. You know what I mean I think if it's like hey if you're willing to show your you at every stage in your life then your egg will go more because go for more because people kind of really want to see how you grow up to be. I think anything can be negotiable. It's just up to your thing. Yeah I guess so. Yeah. And like so anyway I think we I think I read somewhere that eventually their spoiler alert they do do a DNA test or something but probably the reality of them springing on her in that moment was beautiful reality. Yeah. Like and then when they reveal it like on the after show and the guys didn't know like that is that is not acting. No. And they put them side by side and it's like and he looks exactly like the little girl. Yeah like sparkling blue eyes and like fair and who knows but you know it's good that right now Kristin and she are getting along and Kristin is not getting along with. What's her name. What's the girl's name. Michelle Janice Janet Janet Janet and I thought this was it. They have a pool party off camera and Brittany invites everybody. It's hot as shit. It's summer. OK. I really felt for Janet in the story. So she invites Janet and she invites Kristin and Kristin's like Janet better not be coming and Brittany's like oh God she's probably not going to come. She always flakes. Don't worry about she won't come. She won't come. Just come. She won't come. Janet it's fucking hot as shit. Yeah. It's the valley. Brittany has a nice pool. She is a toddler. All kids want to do is go swimming. OK. OK. That's the scary part because many of them can't swim. So it's like not a good time for you until they're like 10. But they want to go swimming and she goes I went there and the Christians immediately like what's she doing here. So she had to get her kid and leave. And when Janet said much and wrote Brittany and was like why did you invite me now my baby is crying and like. Yeah. I just thought Brittany I know you have a heart the heart the size of Kentucky but like don't fucking do that one involves kids in a pool. I don't think she thought it was. But you don't invite two people and then and no like you need to go like I we've all had that situation where you either invite one or you go are you guys cool to be together. And one says yes and one says no and one goes you know what. Invite them. I'm going to bow out. Yeah. And then say bring your kids where a toddler is like all with his like little wings on. Yeah. It's like come on. That's awful. Anybody. Janet Janet. I wonder if I do to my pool party. I feel so bad. Like I really feel badly. And then and then Brittany goes and she has fun with the guy that she's no longer with but they went to come on. She's like I got my sparkle bag. I mean but I do what I what I now what I actually really like about featuring Cruz is I'm thinking like he runs up to the camera his autism and he runs up to the camera and she's laughing. I actually think in his case it will be interesting if having the cameraman around maybe that's beneficial. I think some people might have been like this maybe isn't I don't know nobody's ever really tried it before like having other people around and he seems to like them like he seems to be like going up to them. Jacqueline Loretta with her son on Jersey Housewives. Remember we didn't. I feel like we didn't see him that much. I don't know because your brother has autism. I kind of want to ask you like I don't know. I thought it when she did the sensory room. I thought that was really cool. Yeah. That's coming up I think. She does as she goes I did I put everything in his playroom the way they do it at the therapy. Yeah. And I thought that is really cool because there's people at home that might really get some great ideas from her. I think that's the biggest beneficial piece and I think even with Jacqueline you know I remember when she was going through that and I'm still really good friends with Jacqueline to this day. When you see someone going through it you just you feel seen like you get it you understand and then you see things that they're doing and you know you're able to kind of support each other even though it is kind of through the TV and Brittany and I have DMed about it a bit. And you know I just told I was like listen I have every resource you could ever want just you know let me know what you need and I'm here to help you at any point because I mean it's tough. And it's nice to see crews at least reacting in a positive way and not being overwhelmed by the cameras because it can go either way but it seems like you know he's enjoying himself and I would imagine that also you know it makes things easier for her too. Yeah I mean she's just positive and doing it her own I mean do we know where Jack's is. Last we heard he was what living in Tom Schwartz's apartment building remember when he moved in. I just wonder like I mean it sounds like she's not getting support from him. No. And and it sounds like he doesn't have an income. Yeah I don't know his podcast is gone his tour got canceled his I don't know what he's doing. I mean he's probably I could see him doing like a cam soda deal you know camsot is always reaching out to the reality stars to have camsota. Is this a joke. What is camsota. It's streaming like adult streaming. Oh I thought you meant like a soda. No I was like like a soda drink and I'm like you know like poppy or something. I was like what are you talking about. Oh well I could see him going. Who is the I hope Chad bad Chad from the Bachelor he did he pivoted to only fans. I could see Jack's going in that direction. Jen Shaw. Oh God. She did her People magazine which by the way I predicted that I think I only said it at my live show in Salt Lake but she was on the cover of People or did a People interview which they filmed and the little bit that I saw you know what don't miss you. Don't miss you at all. Don't want her back on the show. Don't need her back. She still it felt very a little still no accountability like not until I was you know walking to the courthouse did I realize that there were actual real victims. She's still not saying like we were scamming people but I didn't think it would lead to you know them ending their life or being destitute. I just thought we were scraping from the top from a lot of people just be honest. Yeah. You're not being honest though. I don't want to see you ever again. Yeah. Well that's right. She's just like you know I didn't realize that what I was doing was wrong and then I had to take accountability once I did realize it was wrong. It's like no you knew it was wrong because the feds were investigating you for years and we saw the messages where you're instructing your team to get rid of the servers. Yeah. You moved your operations over to Kosovo. I mean they were they don't bring you they don't put get put together a federal case because you know they were like oh she's on the Housewives and has a person. Gucci bag like there's a lot. So yeah they'd investigate it and she knew that they were going to come to her because all the other all the other people that were part of this part of the other pieces of this fraud scheme. They were all going down and they were all flipping on each other so she was inevitably going to get pulled into it. And that's why she was like I'm innocent and I'm fighting for people that don't have the means and it was just it was such a bad. I don't think anyone want is this is my prediction and they're not always right. I don't think she's going to be picked up for other shit. No I don't think there's anything funny juicy compelling Teresa like one our hearts over she was interesting like when her case was different. Yeah and Teresa was bamboozled and it wasn't a malicious thing that she was actively doing like this. That was your whole business and you're walking around bragging that your business woman and she was always screaming and I always thought it was performing. So I never liked her and I'm just like I don't care about you and coach Shaw and the Polynesian Cultural Center. I don't care what your life. I don't care about you please. I watch. Please don't come back to Salt Lake. I watched the full interview and there were moments where she would she's charismatic and there were moments where I was like oh you know and then I was like no Zach she's a con woman. Wait what part turned you on. No I don't know about the hemorrhoid pads that she put on her face. Oh that was funny. She was like I was the Ulta of prison. I learned how to get hemorrhoid pads and use them as an astringent for your face. Like there were just moments where I believed that she you know she looks really pretty. She does look good where she's like you know the restitution it's more pain everybody like there were just little moments where she would just come across soft. And then I was like no that's literally her whole thing. She's a con woman. Yes. She knows exactly what to say and how to and you know how to lower her voice and like how to do all of these things to make you you know like her. Taylor Frickipal the latest is she says she's moved away from the Mormon church but she does believe in Jesus and she did a whole thing that got you know 100,000 likes. She went away with her older kids and thanked some company that I guess sponsored her and many people have been subpoenaed for the temporary restraining order that Dakota has tried to put on her so they are going forward with that. Dakota's also been cut out of the villa footage of where the dad talks went to the villa which is coming out. That happened and also Jesse who does hair who had an affair with Marciana from the villa. They're posting that they're a couple now and everyone's just like exactly everyone is like I think I'm tired. Yeah I'm exhausted when I saw Jesse and Marciano at Soligave in Salt Lake City and I and then Harry Jowsy is jumping in and he's like commenting and posting. His text thread with them being like what's going on. I was just like I'm tired like you guys are doing too much and it's just like it's fatiguing. Like the only one I like is Whitney because she's just like I'm out of this drama. I'm doing Broadway. I'm with Mark Ballas and we're doing Roxy Har and like we want no part of that drama and I'm like you're the only one that I actually like even like right now. The rest of them are doing TikToks and doing videos and like trying to like Jesse stuff just looks so bad. The Jesse stuff I think is she's like scared that the show is going to go away completely from Salt Lake City and only film in Orange County with the other girls that have moved and their new cast. Well that's not even a real show yet. Okay well I think she's striving and I understand why. She's got kids. She has you know a couple of baby daddies I think or maybe she only has one but anyway she's a couple kids. She has this huge business. She cannot go pick up and go to LA for $100,000 a year to be on a show. So she's got to keep the filming in Salt Lake City. So I think she's doing whatever it is and in the meantime she was attracted to Marciana so let them walk around and party who cares. I want to thank you so much for coming. Zach tell everybody where they can follow you. You do great work. Yeah great work taking down Blake Lively. This is my campaign now I'm just kidding. Zach Peter all over the internet. My podcast is called No Fills with Zach Peter. Streams five days a week. YouTube, Spotify, Apple, all the places. And everything for me is at heathermcdall.net. Thank you so much. Love you. Bye.