Episode 618: Unreal Again

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So we're going to talk about the real goofballs having the fake fights right here today on the program and joining me. Hawaiian Brian, the podcasting line, the king of the Arcadian Vanguard Podcast Network, Mr. Co-host to you. He's got 10 inches already and it hasn't even started snowing yet. Be great, Brian, last everybody. And I'm a grower. Hello, hi Jim. A pleasure to be here once again. We have a good show today. WWE Unreal, I can't wait to hear your thoughts on WWE Unreal. Once again, another show's awfulness may have taken down the awfulness of Dynamite. Two weeks on a row here on the show. I'm just, I'm so, I just, I just, I'm so, if I only had time, if I, if you move, Brian, I am sedagum fed up with most of the goings on in the professional wrestling industry. The only real interesting part about the whole thing and the only real part of the whole thing anymore is how many millions and billions of dollars the fucking TKO magnets are going to bulk everybody out of and how many millions and multi-millions of dollars Tony God is going to spend to keep going whenever Warner Brothers Discovery is owned by the fucking girl with the goddamn lemonade stand on the corner. I can't even understand who the fuck is going to run what. I don't know what services to watch my favorite wrestling programs on anymore. I don't even know how much it's cost to me because Stacey signs up for all of them. What the fuck, Brian? What the fuck? Maybe you got to move to Canada. Guess Surfshark. Well, we can get Surfshark anywhere as we'll tell you later on the program. A virtual move to Canada. That's right. Yeah, well, I would like to virtually just go back to where's the wrestling on Channel three. There you go. That's all you need to know. Saturday at noon. Watch it or don't. If you miss it, shame on you. It's ridiculous now and the weather is not helping. Because right now outside it's not frightful, Brian, but you guys are going to get it a day later than we. You get it. Well, you're going to get like just a metric shit ton of snow. And and and it's going to just basically wipe your entire area of the country off the planet. But down here. We in central Kentucky, thankfully south of us, they're going to get a big wide. Well, not a big wide, but a narrow over the overall scheme of things, but a long narrow swath of ice that could just fuck everybody up. And they were talking of not only for central Kentucky, but also reaching into the Carolinas, possibly. And around Charlotte, they were saying they might get I just saw this, maybe three quarters of an inch of ice, which is. I think that's the catastrophic level, because then all the power lines just come down and all the Gaga happens. But the Louisville area, we're going to be right on the north side of where they get sleep, which will just kind of tamp down the snow. And because of reasons, unbeknownst to us mere mortals, the very north side of where the sleep comes has the heaviest snow. So we might get 15 inches or more snow here in the greater metropolitan area. I'm not amused. Well, it's not really an amusing anecdote that you have there. That's what we'll call it. Well, that's that's why I'm not amused and nobody else is either. So far, I'll have, you know, with this program. But Brian, you know what the what the gauge is what the ratio is of the rain to the snow, right? You know, as it's 10 to one. I didn't know. No. It is 10 if you would get an inch of rain, the same amount of liquid coming down as snow would be 10 inches of snow. So they're saying that we are in the one plus inch of liquid category and there may even be two inches down again a little bit farther south of us depending on what form it falls in. And then it's going to be below zero. With a wind chill of 20 below zero for the next several days after that to give it a nice shiny glaze sort of like the shellac on a refinished piece of furniture. All right, any varnish any varnish to go with your shellac. I will have you Jim varnish. I used to like him when he played earnest. When Ernest went to camp and to college old Jim varnish. That was John Cena you're thinking of. Oh, that's right. I'm sorry. I forgot, but it's not going to be above freezing around here till February, which I guess ain't too far away these days. Only about seven or eight days as we sit here. Well, that's a long time to be below freezing with a foot of fucking snow on the ground. You know, these days, February is not that far away these days. Well, you know, some, sometimes it can be further away than those old days or February. It was so far away. Well, so far away. Doesn't it just don't fucking snow anymore. I remember just a couple of years ago tell the state say like out of a spring time. Well, you know, it only snowed a couple of times this past winter. And a last year was a snowy icy mess. And this is shaping up to be a storm of epic proportions. So things are looking up. They're saying we may get the most amount of snow. New York City may get the most amount of snow it's seen in decades. What are they saying about you guys in terms of the amount compared to recent events? Well, last year, we got a snow, a couple of different snows and ended up having a in January, early January and had about eight or 10 inches of snow on the ground for a while and it got real cold, which was unusual. And then remember, I've just said here is several weeks back, we got that fucking snow. And that was pretty close to the most snow that we'd ever had on that particular day. We are only this year, like two or three inches, maybe short of the snow we're supposed to have for an entire winter. And we're about to get 12 to 15 inches or whatever. And we're only supposed to have we'll get as much snow potentially in the next 36 hours as we're supposed to get in the entire fucking winter and maybe more. So this is not usual shit, but it's becoming more usual. Because everything sucks. But speaking of cold days in hell. Before we go any further, I've got some emails and a couple of people from the cult of cornediv have written in and also I've got news from south of the border here that I just heard about, but I right at the top of the show. I'm trying to get my my head around what's going on with old Trey Miguel. Where old Trey Miguel last week it was safe and a to Trey Miguel. This guy in the space of two weeks has quit TNA signed with a W. Been released from a W because he said he was stepping away from wrestling. Find out he was told by somebody in somewhere up in the echelons that he couldn't be on TV like a J brisco situation. And then he signed back with TNA. In two weeks. Is this a record of something for something. Well again, he's nothing from nothing leaves nothing. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Well, if you end up on TNA, I think it's nothing from nothing leaves nothing because after that show last week, which was their big premiere. I don't know how many people are going to tune back in for week two to see more of that low rated awful television show. But that's where he is now because again, to recap, he signed with a W. And then somehow before they debut, I believe it was before they debuted on television. We don't know what was taped or not, but we saw a vignette video for a second, but we didn't see a match. Somehow above Tony, we always thought Tony was turns out Tony's Bosley. He's not Charlie. He's Bosley. Somewhat above Tony said, Hey, this wrestler that most people have never heard of, we've heard of him and we're aware of his tweets from six years ago or whatever. And you can't hire him. He was then released. He then put out a statement that he was leaving wrestling or taking a break. Then all the stories came out reminding people were in a lot of cases, bringing up for the first time because people. A lot of people don't know who this guy. I didn't know who this guy was. Well, exactly. The point is how go ahead, go ahead with your recap. But then those old tweets and everything came out and then he showed up on TNA because they'll hire anybody. I mean, TNA. So now he's in TNA. They don't have any higher up say somehow whatever he did was too awful for Warner Brothers Discovery. But AMC is cool. AMC was like, Hey, we've got a lot of naughty movies from the past. Ribbled photography. What's that? Just that we here's the main question I'm asking is you and I I've been in a wrestling business for 50 fucking years or whatever. You and I have been talking about this shit for years at a is the stuff of a, you know, mainstream level. And we've heard this guy's name and we remember seeing him being one of the flippy guys. How the fuck does some random important person in the Warner Brothers Discovery Empire that apparently has been there for at least five or six years? If this is, I can't believe there's two of these people that knows every goddamn stupid thing that every wrestler has ever said on the independent level in the world to be able to say, Oh fuck, no, we're not going to have him on our show. And what standard are they? Are they setting when is that when we were talking about the briscoe thing ages ago? I said, they've had people on their air that have served fucking time in prison. What? Hey, well, that's me. That's the one thing that does connect his story with the J briscoe one, which is there were homophobic tweets. I think they were tweets years ago. J briscoe, it was in the early what like 2010 or whatever was he saw a parade. He tweeted some stuff out. Yeah, this was more recent. Well, this I actually read a transcript. Apparently this guy five or six years ago was going back and forth with some guy. Was it another indie wrestler or just some guy on Twitter? And who was apparently insulting him and he was insulting him back. It sounded like 14 year old girls. There was no threats of violence or people should be incinerated or whatever. It was like, well, I know you are, but what am I type of childish shit? But how old did we establish this guy was? I don't know. It is late. Did we ever even look? But is he in his if he's in his mid 20s and he's been emotionally or literally stunted for about 10 years. But he doesn't sound dangerous. 31 years old, five foot nine. Oh, Jesus. 72 pounds. 31 years old. So six years ago, he was thinking like a 12 year old girl. But nevertheless is is is stupid and immature. You know, is that grounds? I mean, again, there's been people on this network that have said Tyson was on the fucking same show. He was in jail for fucking rape. What are we doing here, people? He didn't tweet out any homophobic stuff. Apparently that's the specific issue. He does his sexual assault in person like the old days. What? I'm not saying it makes any sense, but it appears that's the specific trigger because there are other people in that company who have tweeted out and send the airy stuff over the years. This appears to be the one thing that whoever is higher up or whoever has the voice or has the ear the higher up in the company, the one thing they're sensitive to to the point where they don't want it on their airwaves is this. But is it again with what I saw? And I don't know. Maybe he's all he's been running his thumbs for a while now. But what I saw was childish insults directed at some guy on Twitter and it looked like that they were having a personal issue rather than standing up for any goddamn heinous beliefs. And then he apologized afterwards. Again, I'm not this guy's press agent. I don't care if he catches on fire. I ain't gonna like his wrestling. I don't remember seeing the wrestling that he's done that I saw before. But if we're going to have any level of, you know, logic here, the guy in his team fucking had a Hitler mustache and he was doing sigile photos. They didn't have a problem hiring him. It's the same team. It's the guy who's in the same team. Come on. Maybe and maybe they're just on their phones too much. And that's the point I'm going to make also, or is it going to come up to now next that somebody's going to get kicked off the air because all of what he was 14 he tweeted a picture of his asshole to somebody. I don't what. Well, that may be a scandal. I think you say that that may be a big scandal if that happens. No, if if if you're a 14 year old guy and somebody says fuck you and you take a picture of your asshole because we never were able to do this when I was 14 but I can see that we would have done it. You can talk to a picture of one of my turds one time and fucking gave it to a guy. I said here you are without your mask. It would never. What? It's a rib. It's a long story. Oh, I want to hear this story now at some point. What was that? Who did you give the turn to? We're not even the turds. But it came to picture the. When we went to and then we'll come back to Trey Trayfine. When we went to Georgia in the summer of 83, all the baby faces wanted pictures to try to sell it to matches and make it in Columbus and etc. Oli's loop Knoxville Chattanooga to try to supplement their meager income right of $65 a night guarantee. And so I took pictures of all the baby faces which are Bobby Fulton and Terry Taylor with a fantastic ones. And God damn who's a Steve Oh Steve Olsinovsky and God damn I'm trying to think now that the rest of our baby faces were but anyway and finally, Ken Wayne was the stray cat who was a tiger mask gimmick. And a take off and also because the goddamn what was their name now that did the stray cat strut. The stray cat there you go. Who did that straight guy strut. I was going to say the flock of seagulls. So anyway he was the stray cat with the tiger mask with the fucking whiskers on it and did the fucking etc. So I took some pictures of him. And then at the end of the night I went back to the Falcons rest that's where we had our apartments that I. Boy I think I had had the small barn from the dwarf house restaurant the original Chick-fil-A down there which was small barn was a big fucking pieces of chicken and you know fries and a whole nine yards. And I took a shit. And when I looked in the toilet bowl when I stood up. It went from the top of the water in the back. Oh, the way down and reach and peeked its little head up. Of the top of the out of the top of the water in the front. I said that is an achievement. And I had a picture left on the fucking roll of film so I took a picture of it. And I got him developed. And I was showing the baby faces their pictures I said here, and I gave him fantastic some blah blah blah and I gave. Ken Wayne his and I said here here's one of you without your mask. And he is the well in the reaction and everything but nevertheless. So Trey Miguel is now a turd in a different punch boat he's peeking out of the toilet on AMC. Again, who is the. Is there a dossier on every indie wrestler. I mean I can understand knowing what's going on in the past of the Hulk Hogan's and the rocks and the Austins and whatever of the world. But how is there somebody that's that important that gives a fuck about mean tweets from a childish indie wrestler. That they can even know about them. Don't these people have more important duties and things taking up their time. The other thing is, is this the network saying that we've deemed this person is like permanently ignorant. There's nothing that could be done to repair what they've done. Does the network regret the network whoever it is above Tony make it his decision. Do they regret what they did to Jay Briscoe. Do they understand that it wasn't fair. Apparently not because they're doing the same thing to this guy for actually quite less pointed remarks. They got the ultimate. I think I think they need to go down the roster on all of their programs and examine if they're going to be choosy about the people they have on their air. Who fucks been a prison. Convicted of actual crimes against people and mother nature. And was that bestiality charge proven against old jungle boy. For the record we don't know anything about bestiality charges against old jungle boy or new jungle boy. When they found him in the jungle I understand that he was in a committed relationship with Cheetah. So you know. All right anyway. Yeah anyway. Tray Miguel back in TNA. Any plans on watching TNA again. No. And you. All right. And that's how you drive the show to a halt ladies and gentlemen you're bringing up watching TNA. No I don't. I don't. I don't anticipate. I read a review of what happened on this week's show and I was like you know this really ain't for me. If last week wasn't for me. They're just doubling down on more of want to be WWE and it's terrible. It's terrible. It's terrible. No I was going through my papers here. My dossiers. I have some dossiers on some people. I wanted to say hello to Bobby. I don't know where Bobby's from because he didn't say but he had to. He lost his 18 year old cat rascal. And she was a companion and emotional support and best friend for him and he's been listening to the show as as was his habit where they both would get together. And so I just want to say that we are sorry Bobby for your loss and Brian from Pittsburgh. Not to be confused with Brian Hildebrand. Yeah. It's a long time listener but as lost his mother in the last year and he's other family members are ill and he's listening to us you know to distract himself. And also did I mention he lives in Pittsburgh. So fuck that right there I'll take a toll. But speaking of people taking a toll. The one good piece of news. If you had to guess the one piece of news in the week of the world of wrestling that I enjoyed hearing about Brian. What would you say that it would have been what happened in wrestling last week that actually just tickled a shit out of him or shickled the tit out of me. It was a week. Wasn't raw wasn't dynamite wasn't unreal wasn't the Trey Miguel news. It's kind of a little even happened in this country. Oh is it Tana Hash cutting his hair. No I didn't hear about this he got his hair cut. He got rid of the joy Bay Har Buffon. He is now just an executive. Well, and that's that's just a shame. Why didn't he put his fucking hair up at his last match idiot. No matter with you. But no this happened it down in the country of Mexico are friendly neighbors to the southern border that now want nothing to do with us like everybody else but this happened. I've got it written down here this was in CMLL which is the obviously the competing promotion to triple a triple a is the one that the WWE has their finger in now. But CMLL had a big match between bandido. And hold on who was it. God damn it. Tim Plario. Tim Plario versus bandido. And I have it on authority from close wrestling observers Brian that this was on its way to be at a match of the year category candidate. When when this incident happened did you hear about what happened. I have no idea what you're talking about no. I swear to God, a fan hit. I can't say a fan hit the ring, because that's not the fair description. A fan walked into the ring and refused to leave. And they stopped the goddamn matchdown apparently for like two and a half minutes. What do you mean, I swear. This is. You know, Uncle Dave has, he has correspondence everywhere and this is the report that he is given on this. A fan simply walked into the ring and wouldn't leave and it took security some time to get him away. Basically, he's saying that like any old days he said well if a fan came over the barrier and remember to ask me this question because I'm so tickled I may not ask me what we would have done 40 years ago in the same instance after I tell you the story. I said in a day's gone by the wrestlers and beat shit out of the guy but today's different. At arena Mexico the idea is to emphasize this is a safe place for tourists and families. So both the wrestlers and the referee are instructed not to touch the fan. But here's the thing. The fan also never attacked the wrestlers bandito went up to the guy and asked him to leave but he wouldn't. And then the referee went up and asked him to leave and he just know I'm just I'm going to stay here. And apparently they said security was slow getting to the ring and it was embarrassing how the gas simply climbed the barrier walked into the ring and climbed through the ropes without anybody stopping him. Is he just in the middle of the ring just standing in the middle of the ring. Apparently the cameras it's a TV fucking shoot or feed or whatever the cameras pulled away and the crowd was reacting apparently was the biggest pops of the night. Whatever they were doing to get the guy out of the ring and it was taking so long as a guy wouldn't go I don't know if he was fighting or just just carry me and they can't figure out how to carry I don't know what the fuck. But they the people are going crazy. And the guys just got out of the ring and then. And then once he was gone they started fighting again and one another seven minutes or whatever. But the guy just did. That's that's I've never heard of this happening ever anywhere. That a guy just got in the ring. To do nothing. And nobody could figure out what to do with him. That is unique the idea the guy hits the ring and everyone else leaves the ring. It's just a fan. Apparently they were doing us obviously there. It's wrestling so they were on the floor they weren't using the ring anyway there they did a spot on the floor and we're about to do something else and the guy just got in a fucking ring. There's nobody else in the ring man but the referee. So then the wrestlers are on the. See this thing. Why did he run the rest of the world's are on the floor. The fucking guy gets in the re maybe the referee is with him counting down there if not the referee is in the ring but the guy just walks in the ring and stands there. Now he can play king of the hill on his mother fuckers if you wanted to. Now the wrestlers have put themselves in the mark spot. And the marks in control of the ring that's the way we used to be able to catch them coming through the ropes where we had advantage for they pulled a knife or anything. Now the fucking marks are down on the floor and the. But he does nothing. And then the baby face goes and as he please get out of the ring now I'm good. What's. But here's the thing. Obviously. In the old days if somebody hit the ring. There was somebody on them real quick and the reason for that was because they were always. Mad going for some particular person the heel. I'm going to stop you from doing the thing that you're doing right now or I'm going to take you down or whatever you could tell they're hitting the fucking ring. And whether and if they're drunk and just want to get involved or whatever you could. Justify whether it's the referee we've all seen the clips from the. The WCW fans were more just drunk off their ass in the late 90s nitro wouldn't you say rather than. Specific heat like I want to cut the heels like the 70s or whatever. I think sometimes it may have been my heat like I don't like this one person but they were a bunch of drug. Maybe the last great drunk wrestling audience were WCW nitro. But you know but for the most part somebody's going animatedly for somebody and you've got it's a fucking struggle from the get go. And I don't think I've ever seen anybody just get in the Cleveland riot when they had so many people coming in the ring you would see people coming in the ring with. Bad intent and then when they stand up in the ring under the lights and they're looking at the wrestler in the crowd. They kind of freeze and then they go like well you come over here motherfucker I got a chair type of thing. But to just get in the ring while it's empty and to do nothing and not and I'm not going to leave. I don't know what we would I don't know what we would have been able to get away with doing because. You know there's usually a lawsuit over something like that to begin with but in the time you just got to protect yourself but. How do you if the cops didn't come. I can't imagine the cops ever taking. More than 30 seconds in those days that's the thing unless you were just in a really tank town or is a bad security setup. That I can't imagine the cops not being there and they could legally drag the fucking guy out. I've seen cops get the guys hitting the ring before the boys did the best story was when the Rochester roadblock. When he was just a fan he wanted to be a wrestler he ran at the Hulk Hogan at the gym and he was like hey what do I do at Hogan was dismissive and put him down whatever it was. So he showed up that night at the show and he hit the ring and he was gigantic I don't remember what he looked like. Yes he was like four fifty or whatever right. He didn't get the Hogan Hogan's opponent and that was the one man gang and apparently he took the one. That's great so Hogan pisses the guy off he takes it out on George Jesus Christ. I think it was like Hogan was walking through the ring and all of a sudden he sees some fan take down the one man game. I can't think one man game. It's the guy from the gym. And then and then by the way Hogan's got to go 10 minutes with him or whatever he just took gang down out of nowhere. I'm sorry. Please go to your email. I have found footage of this alleged incident. Oh good Lord. There's a few different videos apparently that fans have taken. They're all compiled into one. I would suggest you start 41 seconds into the video. Well I got to get past this off brand fucking advertisement here that they're trying to show me not like our stuff. We oh yeah. What he's just he's just standing there with his arms out while doing the twirls like here I am the referee said get out of here. He's sitting on the top rope. Bandidos is get out of here. Now the guy's just in the corner sitting on the top row. Here comes some security guys on a little froggy. Hey he's trying to pull away from him now. Oh they they wanted to get out. He ain't having it. He's just standing up straight. He's kind of laughing at them. They're trying to figure out they can't figure out how to pull him through the goddamn ropes. He's got a body part. They've got his leg over the over the middle rope and one's pulling his leg but he's no they've got his leg his crotch is in between the fucking rope there they can't get now the camera pans away because they all in pans back is he still hooked on the ropes. Well now there's eight guys they're getting in their own way and the referee just turns around disgustingly and leaves. They got away from him on the floor and trying to fucking chase him and they've got him down. And again there's 10 people try to get this guy and they're all getting in their own way. And he's just by not cooperating with any movement he's flummoxed him this far now they got him in the crowd. I there's no no wait hold on hold on here. Did you see that? Did I see what I think I saw? What did you see the throwing stuff. Okay hold on I did it was that somebody threw something I thought it was a chair but it could be a but hold on oh shit. I can't find it it happens so they're throwing all sorts of stuff at him and here's another camera angle of the guy on the top the guys bigger than all the wrestlers the fans. Did they think he was a wrestler doing a run in or did they know this is just some fan. I don't know well he's not like a 300 pound bodybuilder but he's a tall fairly long hair hippies probably undercover agent for all that throwing drinks and everything now they're hauling him up. Okay there's the other angle I was trying to watch when they crotch him over the rope. They've got one leg over the rope and the other leg still in the ring on the other side of the rope and they can't fucking figure out why they can't pull him out. It's simple goddamn geometry. He just he just doing nothing he just like now fuck I participate in any of this shit. We hear how hot CMLL is they're doing record business the hottest they've ever been they're selling out this guy's like hey I'm gonna go I'm just gonna go in the ring and hang out for a while and he did. I don't know. Oh well anyway I honestly that is. An interesting conundrum. Is it how can you justify attacking the guy per se when he. Number one you weren't even in the ring when he got in it and secondly if he's just standing there. If the referee went over and tried to contain him as big bubble you say. Then if he got feisty with him then you could justify something but it's an awkward like. What the fuck do we do here. Remember when they did the clash of champions in Fort Bragg North Carolina. At that field summer of. Sweaty building I've ever seen on TV. Oh Christ on it that's. As where they have Paul Lee hit me with the loaded racket to fuck us out of the world tag team title for the free birds and blah blah blah. And the EMT's. Took me outside where it actually I was able to convince them that I had the. The vitals of a fucking person who had passed out from heat exhaustion and knocked out for real. Because it was been so hot in the fucking building they wanted to transport me. I said no I've now that I've got the air I'll be okay. It was miserable but anyway the point is I'm about to introduce the midnight express to come out I'm in the ring. And we're the baby faces. And right as we're about to come up a Jackie Crockett and give me the two. And he starts pointing and I see this drunk soldier. Has jumped up on the the apron of the ring and and. Somehow or another I because it was out of the corner my I don't know whether he tried to jump over the top rope and. Failed and fell or whether he stood up on the ropes and fell but it's somewhere another he fell over the top rope into the ring. Into a heap and he got he's like six feet away from me and now there's the red light and we're up on the air and I made. Some remark about him having too much to drink and introduce the midnight express and the the MPs were already pulling him out by his fucking feet. I don't know what his intention was but that that would be somewhat of a conundrum. Of course fans it's important to know you should never hit the ring never ever hit the ring. No but just go ahead and walk into it just walk in there apparently nobody will bother you they will not know just. Walk right on over the rail calmly step up into the ring very calmly and bother no one and apparently they can't figure that fucking out. You know the other interesting thing is the move of security is coming from me I think I'll just sit on the top rope. Yeah well he wanted to appear he felt like he had a little separation problem he's high above the fray. All right well the hottest wrestling promotion in the world CMLL it pays to own your buildings. There you go and Brian I got another email from Kurt from Toronto and it's about you so I figured you'd like to hear it. I don't know. Well you'll find out. Brian and Jim he says Kurt that is. I recently learned that the show Mr. Rogers Neighborhood holds the record for the most unique opening theme songs to a show with 895 completely different songs all played by the legendary improvisational jazz pianist Johnny Costa who came out of retirement as a favorite of Fred Rogers. He says it's crazy to think about because the opening song is so well known you know wouldn't you like me my neighbor all that that type of horse shit. Sound like only Anderson there but Costa rift different iterations of that song every single episode until his death in 1996 did you know that I never knew that I mean obviously Fred Rogers sang it differently every time I thought that's what you're going to say I didn't realize it was a different piano riff every time I never knew that no he just he just did it. And Kurt says that it occurred to me recently that Brian does the same thing at the start of every drive through giving that show the same distinct feature as Costa did for Mr. Rogers Neighborhood. So thank you Brian he says for giving each episode such distinct sounds I would have used another form of the word stink such distinct stats distinct sounds in the words of the great Antonio and no key in decipherable screaming. I believe he means Tiger da and thank you very much of course I've always loved Toronto and the people in Toronto great comedy. OK music but great comedy and of course great tastes and you can't even you can't even just hit the like great food great you have to go OK music you can't even full throatedly endorse the Toronto on of it on a man's. And you know I appreciate his comments I've been compared a lot to a modern day Johnny Casa or Henry Mancini and I think keep watching how my music develops I think you'll enjoy the journey in the weeks ahead. You've been compared a lot to some variety of things but I'm just I'm trying to find something positive positive you know like they say the positive but. You at least we know you do that live every week I guess we can we can say that and also before we go any further there is an update also how long we've been going already well we'll go a little bit longer before we go any further. There's an update to the conversation we had right before Christmas about. The garbage truck tipping situation where you said to tip your garbage people is in a settled science at this point we had the discussion I won the conversation. No you didn't know you didn't win because it's he here is this is the way that we're going to know because we've heard from a professional in the industry. This is Robert from Ocala Florida. And Robert yes I know how to pronounce Ocala you didn't need to give me the phonetic. Basically he went to college to become a high school football coach which I don't really understand that to be honest with you go to college to become a high school football coach. Isn't that like going backwards to begin with. They taught me what he said and things like how to slap the guy on the ass and say well. But his wife got pregnant and he says that profession doesn't pay very well I guess he figured that out at that point so he got a job with a garbage company. Started on route as a driver with a guy on the back throwing the trash into the truck this is 20 years ago. But he said that first Christmas I noticed envelopes left on top of garbage cans I'd never heard of tipping the garbage man before working there the people who tipped were usually the ones we'd go the extra mile for taking their cans back to the garage or hauling away extra trash. I only gave thank you cards to the people who tipped us handing out cards before Christmas like your people did Brian always felt like begging for a tip but we would make it work from 1200 to $2,500 a piece from tips. You can clean up in the garbage business. And then he said from 2005 to 2016 I drove different types of trucks rear loaders with a guy on the back and automated side loaders that pick up cans mechanically. And see that's where you and I we were differing. It depended on the city contracts some cities preferred the newer automated trucks smaller towns requested the rear loaders the big side loader trucks had a tough time with narrow roads well they make it down mine and I don't think that's what I meant. Mine's even legal. But it makes sense because like Jim said you never see your garbage man so he noticed that people were less likely to tip people in an automated truck. I wonder what is actually more time efficient. If you have a guy on the back of your truck versus using the machine built into your truck what actually is the quickest way to pick up the garbage. Well but I assume that there's not a guy riding shotgun in the fucking truck with the automatic gimmick so you're cutting your guys down from two to one so is it time or is it man hours. See that's why you got to tip them the economy sucks. They're gonna lose a job to a machine. That's a good hard working hard page. What do you want to apply for that good hard working hard page. Easy paying you just leave an envelope and say you better pay this. We'll be bringing your cans back to your garage or whatever that guy said. But anyway but as far as as Robert from Ocala is going but he retired because after working his way into management and then now he's gone to barber school and now he barbers and makes most of his money on tips so he also tips his mailman. See I don't know. This sounds actually like a really good guy. Thank you for sending in your email Robert. Well yes Robert and thank you for being a citizen. Thank you for being a citizen. Thank you for allowing these suckers to be able to pay for your goddamn retirement from the garbage business by just paying you an overabundance of money to haul away their trash. So he didn't say Brian was wrong. It was more just reaffirming. We were both right about the various kinds of trucks and the various kinds of if you if you don't see these people you're not going to tip them as much anyway. Should we start it by examining what part of the fake wrestling do you want to exact. Why don't we start examining the WWE fake fucking wrestling. Because I am just I am that's why I said it earlier as only Thunderbolt Patterson could say I'm just I'm full I'm full. I have never seen. And whether it be performance in a W or even though they have some talent that can give you some halfway decent performances and performances this is or performances in the WWE. They're going to fucking come back later on and explain exactly how fucking phony they were to. And I've lost my goddamn. Interest in when did everybody again I think I said this last season on unreal when did everybody become a bunch of goddamn nervous racks. It's like this is reform school for or fucking. What was it the breakfast club where all the kids got set to fucking detention because they were the ones that asked off all the time that's what the wrestling business is. You got people fucking being banned for mean tweets when they're fucking idiots and you got goddamn major stars that are having nervous breakdowns over their fucking matches. I don't want to know that lumberjack Joe Ladook had a cute poodle. I want to picture him eating small children and animals. There it's faking the ring and they're telling us how fake it is behind the scenes and then everybody's agreeing with it. Yeah this is a bunch of fake shit. We're having a real nervous breakdown over the fake shit that we're doing. So where do you want to start. Let's start with unreal. I can't think of a better fucking title season two. I'm sure you'll get to the end of the final episode of unreal and they promised a season three at the end of the final episode which I'm sure we'll get to but promised or threatened. Either or but season two of unreal on Netflix. But I mean do you agree with me that it's just everybody now either on or off camera. These people that are supposed to be our tough wrestling heroes are fucking you know these giants of sport instead as a bunch of insecure nervous fucking ninnies being told every move that they're supposed to make and what to do and what to say and what their farts smell like by a bunch of Nimrod sitting around a table wearing fucking ties that as Bill Watts would say if they were walking through the locker room may be whistling stranger in paradise. There's some sort of question in there for me. I don't like them doing this show. I don't think there's a real benefit to them doing this show other than whatever money they get paid to do it. I don't think it helps anything. Again it exposes to me. Yeah there's a problem with everyone you know. I'm Seth Rollins but behind the scenes I'm Colby. I just know you know every single person had to do every single person had to be like here's my real name and here are all the other names you may know me by including the one you currently know me by. I don't think that's helpful. I don't think that's a good thing but a lot of guys I think want that sort of attention. That's one of the reasons when you know MJF was first on my radar. It was so refreshing because he never broke gimmick. It was never never on social media like you know I'm actually a very nice guy and I just do this for fun. It was never. I walked through a parking lot of fucking marks with him and went to eat with him after he doesn't break. He was amazing. That's what I was afraid then but then again they'll break you sooner or later they'll make you break and they made him break. And everyone else breaks and in this show everyone seemingly runs to the camera. I mean Heyman tells you how much he is against it and then he does it as much as anyone. But I think the real issue with the show specifically this season two. It's almost an expose on the failed creative process and all the things that are working purely because the machine is working as opposed to this. This is really hot. This person is taking off. This is really working and it exposed all of that from bad ideas from bad ideas from Bruce Prichard which were included in this. I know that a lot of people are taking credit for some shit that I would have tried to fucking cover up on. But that's to me the biggest issue in a time where we're talking week after week about how stale the WWE product is. This was the road to getting there. The middle of the scene of run after the Rock already disappeared. And you watch this and you see all the time they dedicated the Lyra of Lyra of Valkyrie. And you wonder almost if they only did it for this show. Because it doesn't seem like wrestling fans think of her the way they're talking about her in this thing. And just everything in this thing is a time it's covering a time where nothing clicked. The scene of turn was a failure in a lot of ways. Again they sold tickets. The machine is big right now and they've got high spenders willing to pay when the average wrestling fan won't. But this was a period of time where almost everything creatively sucked. And you kind of see why you kind of see the Triple H is not a booker with instincts. He's a coach who wants to give you a pat on the back and a hug after he approves the ideas that are coming from a bunch of girls. I'm convinced that much of the I know the dialogue at the gorilla position. They know they're on Mike and it's somewhat stilted toward that. I can't believe there's that much just hugging and blah but also some of it's just not convincing. But I disagree. One thing you said they didn't push Lyric. See it's easier to say they didn't push Lyric valedictorian because they wanted to include her in this show. She is riding in on Becky. They pushed Lyric because she's Becky's friend and the storyline appealed to them. And they wanted Becky and Seth in here like they wanted Jimmy and Naomi in here because it's also oh they can focus on the married couple. And then the child comes in and here we're playing with the child and we're playing with the child backstage. They've got a goddamn couch in the gorilla position now. We used to get three folding chairs on a temporary wood platform with a fucking curtain around it. Now they've got a goddamn couch looks nicer than my living room. It's I mean Jesus Christ. I've done shows and buildings that were decorated that nice. But they wanted the married couples. So they showed footage of Becky and Seth's marriage and Jimmy and Naomi's happy marriage apparently now they her big push that will go through these shows happened until she took herself off the field. But the home life with the baby that's what I'm saying. That's the last thing I want to see on a wrestling related show unless it's MJF in a fucking mansion abusing a goddamn subservient or flair in the 80s in his real house. I don't I don't want to see these people as real people for fuck's sake. There's supposed to be wrestling superstars. Why do we want to know that and it says there's a heel. Becky's a heel at this point in time. That this is going on. Why do you know it doesn't make sense and even more than gimmick killing. I think a lot of these kind of things in this show is or a killing. You know when I was a kid watching wrestling they're just goofy normal people. Everyone seemed bigger than life and I didn't know how boring their everyday life really was that it was just like my dad's everyday life. It was the same thing but they seemed like it would be bigger because these are rich famous wrestlers on TV. Not a bunch of emotional clowns. Lifestyles of the rich and famous with a D.B. I see is a classic example of people thought that was really his fucking house. Anyway they're focusing heavily on Becky and Seth throughout this whole thing and they'll have other folks involved. The writers room is it anywhere from six to ten people sitting there with triple H at the head of the table. Everybody's got a laptop. Everybody's got some semblance of a collar a jacket or a tie. And it just it's and it always happens at night. What do these people do during the day? Wait for me. That it's always dark at night when they're sitting there with it by God by that time and I'd be lucky if I wasn't in my fucking underwear. And that's that's again. I just think this is god damn red this is wrestling and it's just ridiculous. 30 years ago it was me and Vincent Bruce with Vince wearing an Ika Pro shirt and zoo bass and me wear the T shirt and zoo bass. And Bruce wearing blue jeans and one of those ugly sweaters with no computers and a bunch of fucking sharpened pencils that Vince is down in room table. That was bad enough. But if I had walked into this room I would have done the fucking 180 and right back out. What the fuck these fucking random people I have. I am not saying that you have to have been a champion wrestler in order to be a good booker. And actually many of that sometimes like basketball football. Some of those other things it falls into the best can't teach but they can do. But until you've had some aspect of whether it be refereeing managing promoting at least not just wrestling but some performance aspect or some regular day to day aspect. Of the business for a number of years. There is you got no business being in a fucking writers room so fuck you first of all with that. And secondly this looks like the most boring fucking ought we better not say anything about the way you're doing it. How can you book that way. How can it with that amount of people in the same room. Somebody is going to tell whoever on the roster is going to be the best booker in the world. I don't know if I'm going to be the best booker in the world. I don't know if I'm going to be the best booker in the world. Somebody is going to tell whoever on the roster that you're telling. Vince or triple H or whoever's in charge of this fiasco. You need to fucking get rid of this motherfucker right now. He's the fucking shit. He's a goddamn attitude probably. You can't have a booking meeting with 12 fucking people. It's insane especially 12 people and a woman. Did you see the woman that was in one of the shots. You thought she sounded more reasonable than some of the other people we heard from in those bookie meetings. That is not praise. So anyway Bruce Pritchard is a point where Bruce Pritchard pitches the mind blowingly stupid idea of Pat McAfee going over Gunther. It's a horrible idea. And his reasoning was the other side which is Gunther defeating the non wrestler is too predictable. And there's a pause and who knows how much they edited but it was almost like people were afraid to say Bruce that's the stupidest fucking idea there is. And one guy finally spoke up and very diplomatically said is Pat McAfee and WrestleMania. Did you explain how ridiculous everyone should have jumped up and said Bruce shut the fuck up you're not an ideas guy you're a stooge shut up. But see when he was an ideas guy or was filling that role when it was just three of I would I said the same type of shit are you out of your fucking mind if he said shit like that. And then it was oh no come on and I said that or sometimes when I would say something he'd say oh you have bullshit but at least you could. He did this is like a goddamn you know corporate meeting where they're they're recording minutes and you know accordingly. Oh yeah cuz at one point they said to the girl like take that off the transcript or take that off don't put that in the notes. Yes yeah yeah. I'm like Jesus Christ you know no. Boy I wish I had the notes on what me and old Vinnie Rue would say back and forth to each other on a random day in 1997 though. Other than being paid money for it for if there was a transcript of that other than being the conduit events what role do you see Bruce Prichard is playing that's needed in WWE based on what you saw in these shows. Bruce has been there so long he knows all the information that needs to be disseminated to the various places and he's he loves to go tell people things. So that's and I mean again it's fate praise but Bruce Prichard knows a lot more about just the general rules of thumb of the wrestling business than most of these people in the room because who the fuck are they. It would job in wrestling if they ever learned in in their lives before now that would justify them being on the writing team they went to school to write television. And so that no I have no respect for any of these fucking people. It's a joke. But nevertheless. I was going to say they also had Bobby rude and Brian Armstrong and had wrestlers at times in that wasn't just writers. Well that's what I'm saying. Is if you had the three or four five maybe fucking actually have been in the business wrestling people that have been there for a while in a room with triple H as the decider in chief then you would see. Probably more of a wrestling based product but they bring all these other dipshits in to do all of the offshoots and the drama and the focusing on the married couples and all the shit that we don't like about our wrestling. But getting back to this fucking show and the focusing on the married couple. They talk about the relationship where Becky had befriended our friend lyric and wanted to work with her and Becky was at the hour. She was worried she wouldn't be as over coming back. And I'm not even going to get into you know when you have long absences that's why I discourage long absences when you're in a big time position. Because when you have long absences sometimes it's nostalgia and sometimes it's disappointing but nevertheless. She starts a trend in this show and lyric has a nervous breakdown on camera by the time we get to the end of this series. But there's the fear the doubt the black she's admitting human emotions. Maybe if she was supposed to be. The sweet little baby face of the pair or whatever. But nobody keeps up an image anymore like I said before I don't want to know Joe Laduk had a cute poodle. I don't. And the raw raw speeches and the pep ups backstage nobody used to talk like this backstage where there was a group of people standing around you. When you're ready to go out to curtain or around the corner or through the door or wherever it was. And there's how go go get them champ and pat me on the back and you're like oh I'm so nervous. When did this all happen. I've never seen this shit before. When did everybody become a nervous wreck. I think it's a I think it's a generational thing more than any WWE changes like Vince not being there. I think a lot of it is just this is the generation of wrestlers. You know they're all around the same age. They all work for Ring of Honor around the same time. I used to be that age. I couldn't have gotten to this age without being that age. We're about to go out. If I'm nervous it's all shit. I'm supposed to throw fire is my fire going to get wet because it's something I'm not. If I got to get juice is somebody going to see my blade because I'm not used to doing that. I got nervous about. But just going out for shows it on a regular basis this apparently happens because it's it raw or it's it pay per views or it's it wherever the fuck. And they're all there to applaud and when they come back. The flare used to fucking joke about he hated when he'd come back from the ring in St. Louis because he had to go so long because it was St. Louis and he had to he just wouldn't not. He'd come back at a fucking locker rooms were empty the only people be there is the janitor because everybody went to go get something to eat. They're tired of fucking flair taking all night. But I just I. So they do the whole thing with Bailey and Lyric and. They won the tag title and they lost tag title and then Becky kicked the shit out of her. And then again Triple H comes back in to remind everybody of course this is the way we planned it. And they also remind everybody that would Becky turned the heel under everybody cheered Becky because nobody gave a shit about Lyric because she had that quizzical face like what is happening to me all the time. And wings and she came out flying wings. But Becky still wanted to get her over. So that's going to continue. And then as you mentioned Bruce wanted Gunther over or McAfee over good through and I wrote down Bruce is obnoxiously pleasant. I think that's the only way to phrase it. So I find them unpleasant because he looks so bizarre. I don't know if it's Botox or just the way he's aged but he's off putting the look at and then listen to him and he's so. Professionally slimy. He's so professionally disingenuous in a pompous way from someone who doesn't deserve to be pompous in any way. It's professionally slimy was the follow up to comfortably numb. Did you know that. I didn't know that no Bruce doesn't know you can't talk about Bruce's appearance because Bruce is wearing makeup and these shots. He doesn't really look like that. Creepy but nevertheless I just a creepy guy without talent. They. Triple H. With the whole thing with Gunther. And Pat McAfee and the angle they shot with him defending Michael Cole and everything triple H is on the I F B tell Gunther not to be a bad guy. The angle they shot with him defending Michael Cole and everything triple H is on the I F B tell Gunther not to let him go. I'm like Jesus. This is the the antithesis of what you need to see because the thing that we've lost and the reason why that most wrestling sucks these days is because we have lost the ability for people to suspend their disbelief. Not that the wrestling business is predetermined or not but that these fucking guys. Are capable of snapping and just doing some shit. And you used to see it on a regular enough basis where fans would hit the ring in a weekly territory. If you've got 52 shows a year you're going to have a fan in the ring five or six of them. And they would see it enough that when the guy would hit the red the other boomer in the floor or something or some shit would go on and somebody would get bad juice or a really well worked fucking match would get people fired up and oh god damn they were serious. Just enough to where even if you knew the business was a work you didn't want to fuck with these guys. There was a high probability that they might snap and do something they're not supposed to do to you or somebody else. And this just shows that they're more micromanaged than even when I was active in television 10 years ago. That nobody was micromanaging shit this much nor did they have the ability to when I was in the WWF even years before that. Because now they've got this incredible crew of people to tell everybody every fucking move to make which is why nobody looks spontaneous. And there's no there's no breakout guy that you think will just snap and get away with it. I forget what it was was it the jelly roll match or something else. It may have been something else where the agent was literally calling the match from the back. Yes. Have you ever seen that before? In TNA because they a lot of the guys wanted it that way the younger guys like to do it anyway this way and also because we don't want to miss. Fugging shots part of the producer's job that I had in TNA was to listen to the guys tell me the match they were planning to have. And then when I was in the truck, if it was anything that was coming up that was going to be out of the ring suddenly or requiring a camera shot that you would not expect. In other words, not just regular wrestling in the ring, but the dive or the thing on the floor or somebody's running in whatever. You would let the director know ahead of time so he wouldn't be caught on wears and missed the shot. But there was still plenty of room for interpretation in the middle like OK now they're going to be in the ring for a while. And I would watch the match and I could tell if they were setting something up. I would throw my own comments in like I mean he's going to give him a knee in the back here in a second when he hits the ropes whatever. But now they literally know every goddamn move and they can also. We could talk to the referees to give them time cues, but we weren't telling the referee every 10 seconds. Tell him to change the expression on his face. It. It's just so it's tighter than ever. But point is that's why people. Kind of just because it's only the top guys with the really right moments that can make them. Brock, because you would believe because he's a rich fucking mental case that he don't give a fuck if he lays waste to somebody and that's why he draws money. Everybody else. Anyhow. So. McAfee. He's got his own building. Is that like a converted Mormon church or some kind of. You know, I don't know a cult building or whatever that he's now got a ring in and his podcast studio in Indianapolis. I don't know. Looks like it looked like some kind of gymnasium or auditorium. I don't know. Well, it looks like a repurposed old building of some kind that with the. I think it was some kind of church. I bet you it was. But never let it's a nice place. And he had a barn. I've seen pictures when he was having Rip Rogers. Train him privately 10 years ago. He had a barn with a ring in it. So he's been into this for a long fucking time. But again, McAfee was worried he was going to look like an ass. Because of a cardio or whatever, because he's a professional athlete, but it is a different thing. And he, of course, I think would have been mortified if. They asked him to go over Gunther because then the boys would hate even etc. etc. But McAfee on this and this is the. Closing comment I'll make here. McAfee on this did the best job of talking about the business openly and still giving it some respect. And because last season, remember at least a punk, I believe did a good job. And I remember Drew was featured and they had the top guys that could really talk. And they could make the best of a bad situation and not just spill their goddamn guts like, you know, and make somewhat pithy comments about to engender some kind of credibility and respect for the business, even as it was being laid open like a goddamn fillet fish in front of our eyes. And McAfee did. He's every single guy in the world. He's been a football player and you know, he put the the business over and and how you know much it takes and tried to keep some respect for it and put everybody else over and stayed humble. And then they had a lot of stuff about Becky and Lyric and I. I was zoning out and I was just like, I'm not going to be a football player. I'm just going to be a football player, but I'm not going to be a football player. And then they had a lot of stuff about Becky and Lyric and I, I was zoning out and then a lot of coming attractions at the end of the first episode, but you know what the best thing, probably my favorite thing, Brian, about the whole season about of Unreal came here. When I found out there was five episodes because I thought there had been six, and so I figured, well, that's the best news I've heard. I don't have to fucking watch one of these episodes. I'm just what, what good is this doing anybody, except it gives them more television to make. I can see them sending cameras out with guys to go eat a cracker barrel and then shoot the shit just to fill time. What is happening here? Again, it's one of those questions. I don't know exactly how you anticipate me answering it. I don't know. Again, I think they like to believe that they are doing more than just wrestling booking. But at the end of the day, it's professional wrestling and it's wrestling booking. I think a lot of people want to pretend like it's a lot different than what it is or bigger than what it is. And everyone's, I don't know if they're required, if they're told, if Michael Hayes is told, you know, you better go talk to these people, or if they choose to, or if they opt in. But it doesn't seem like it does. Again, it doesn't seem like it does anything to help if it just destroys the mystique of the wrestlers and the angles and stuff you're doing. I'm not saying the fans are going to suddenly think it's all real. Just don't rub it in their faces that it's not. Pretend that it's real. That's how wrestling always worked. The universe of the one hour wrestling show or 90 minute wrestling show. In that universe, everything that's happening as crazy as it may seem, it's all real. It's all really happening and all the people that aren't crazy and nuts that are in the studio or hosting the show or whatever have to react like real people would to the real craziness. Instead, it's a show, you know, it's like that old Muppet Show comparison. WWE show is like, hey, we're doing a wrestling show. Now let's take a break for a second. We're going to expose the business with this next little video. Watch this. And now we're going to go back to this to pretending that any of this matters after that. You know, they can't decide what they want to do and what they want to be. But again, it's fun to see the inside of the writing room and all this stuff. I don't think this show does anything to help them. It doesn't. It's not going to change any outsiders' perception on wrestling. Oh, good Lord. I would. I would hope that no outsider would want to watch this thing. But you're basically in summation. You're saying that all the people involved in this show are way too in enamored with the smell of their own farts. Is what you're saying. There's several specific people, I think, that are way too enamored with their own farts. Several specific farters. We'll be getting into this because it's still going to be a long season, folks, even with five episodes. But you know what? I wouldn't make a joke about these people live on another planet, but instead I think I'm going with, I think all of these people in the writer's room and everybody else, at least the male section of the day, W-W-E, needs to go to Mars because they need some testosterone level of optimization. Stop hitting things. Somebody. I'm hitting things because I'm making points. I'm making points that we need, folks, you know, as you get older or even as these people on this program show and you're still young. Well, things just start not being the same. It's the same diet that you used to eat. Now you're just getting fat all of a sudden and you got no energy and you just, wait until you get to be 60 something, folks, and then you'll go to bed at four o'clock in the afternoon. But there's all kinds of unhealthy ways to keep your testosterone optimized and you don't want to be doing those things. And it either costs a lot of money or it shuts down your body's natural production or if there were, has issues with your fertility. Some people shouldn't reproduce anyway, but if you want to, you ought to take care of that. But now, Brian, much as we always tell our folks out there, there's a natural way to do things instead of the unhealthy chemical manufactured synthetic way. 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Apparently that are just suddenly out of brain aneurysm. But folks, for those of you who have not seen this, if you look up Cameron smotherman, this guy, he's doing the way in for the UFC fight. And he does the flex on the scale and he gets off the scale and takes two or three steps and then kind of starts hunching over a little bit and then pitches forward. Face first with a flat flop on the hard stage and won't and everybody. Oh, shit. And they apparently had to carry him bodily feet and arms and everything off the stage. Fight's been canceled by the way. He got knocked down by air after he made weight. Yes. And that's why a lot of these fighters cut. 20 pounds or whatever it's safe thing for the amateur wrestlers, the this weight cutting bullshit. Is dangerous and they get. 20 pounds or more under what their legitimate weight ought to be and then. Go into the cage or the on the mat or whatever the combat may be. You know, 20 pounds bigger than they weighed in at what is the goddamn. Purpose then. Shouldn't it be like, here's what I weighed like every day for the last week and I've been within five or six pounds. Okay. Something like the main instead of. I'll sweat and piss and shit and strip naked and just shut my body organs down. And then gain 25 pounds in two days and get in a fight. This isn't a new issue. I mean, UFC's been dealing with these issues with fighters having to cut weight at the last second, you know, sweating until the very last, I mean, literally the last second until they're on the scale. It's not healthy. I mean, it's as unhealthy as you could be for a fighter. What's more unhealthy, a fighter taking steroids or something. Or starving themselves of food and liquid. So they can get on a scale before the fight. Not good. This looks really bad. This poor guy. Well, he cut weight, but he also cut all his front teeth out. I bet you because they carried him off like he was dead. I mean, Jesus, I'm looking at that now. All right. Well, TKO on a roll. Well, let's go back to the phony shit. Unreal is what we were talking about. And number two segment to show to episode to that's where I was searching for. Now they're starting to feed in a little bit, you know, some of the other guys, they're going to focus a little bit on our truth this week. I say this week, all these things come out at the same time now. And road dog. I love the Armstrong family. And I love the Armstrong family. And I love Brian Armstrong, but he was introduced as a writer and producer, et cetera. And he's going to start because he's been friends with Ron killings for years. And he's going to start telling us about him. And he kind of starts breaking into tears. And he's I've known the way that I heard it first. I've known Ron. I met him in Memphis 25 years ago when I was a drug and alcohol addict or whatever. I'm like, what is this going to be a story where they were doing drugs together? And then him being a recovering drug addict never figured into the goddamn story again. Why does he just mention that at the start of every public statement now, by the way, I'm a recovering drug addict. And so I'd like a triple cheese with what did you see that or did it even land with you? I mean, it didn't. I mean, as you're saying it, again, I don't remember exactly how it was in context, but as you're saying it, it does seem like a superfluous comment to make there at the beginning. That's unnecessary. But you know, Brian Armstrong seemed. You know, whatever you think about his wrestling writing ability or in ring ability or some of his ideas that you've seen on Twitter or whatever. Seems like the nicest human being on the planet. He is clearly Ron killings in him and they were together in TNA. They were obviously together in WWE. They have a very close relationship and. He's a very emotional guy. He's a very, very emotional guy. Everybody on this show is so emotional. They're all crying and they're just nervous. Rick, this show should be sponsored by Xanax. I don't remember which episodes. I'll just say it here. You know, who looks like he needs a hug at all times? Chris Parks. You want to talk about people who seem nervous and you feel bad. Yes, yes, I feel bad for how nervous he seems at every scene. It used to be when he was a bis and TNA 15 plus years ago. And again, worked so hard and just a nice guy, but he's just so tightly wound and searching for approval. That he would ask. He'd ask everybody, including whoever was playing Mickey Mouse on the lot. How was it? Was it OK? I was, you know, one time he was asking me, was it OK? How was it when he still had thumb tax and shit on him? He could take the thumb tax out of you. But we sometimes you'd rib people with. The best so and so of he's got some feedback for you on his because then you'd never get rid of him, right? But he's a very earnest person, but they're all everybody involved now is all nervous and or hyperactive and or just nice. And no, none of those things are good things to be in a wrestling business because it'll already make you hyperactive and fucking nervous. And you don't need to be nice. You need to be meaner. But anyway. And Road Dog is they told the story that Road Dog has been friends with Ron killings, as you said, forever since Memphis 25 years ago. And they explained the John and Ron Cena deal and did you get when when Road Dog said, well, truth was to cut his hair for the scene of match. Tribulation. Why? And Road Dog got fired up about just I don't I I'm just tired of pitching ideas for this. Defending at all. What was that? I just I just love him. I mean, you should have just said that. Well, but the thing is, is it it didn't really make any sense. And somebody said what suddenly we're going to make him afraid of Ron. Ron killings has been comedy for however long and we're going to make him afraid of him by Saturday or whatever. But in this show started. What is going to run through the next several episodes is that we went back and saw that the heel John Cena was a fucking mess. And there. They even end up admitting that, you know, people just want to see Cena, but they were dealt this by the rock. And it's interesting to see if the rock shows back up anytime. For WrestleMania. But then after they've had the match with truth and Cena and blah, blah, blah, and they hug and they thank each other. Then his contract expires. And remember when this happened, we talked to the the the terminology. The contract expired. He didn't get released. They didn't fire him. They didn't renew him. And I think that this was probably serendipitous that they they ended up just making something out of it because of the backlash and people being interested. They didn't want to renew him at the money they were paying him. It's not they didn't want to renew him at all. And I think you and I remember we went over all of this. So now triple H is saying the contract was up. We were far apart. Communications broke down. So they let him lapse to make him come talk to him. But instead he tweeted. And they were fired. And truth and I get the idea that truth is probably a guy gets his feelings hurt easy to. But the fans complained but then also they were able to get back and they probably who knows if they resigned him for the same thing that they were offering him before when they were way apart or whatever. Was this a big a lot of stuff about not a lot of stuff. It was funny too after the fact triple H. They had a few different clips of him like profusely apologizing to truth without doing it. Hey, you know, I just want you to know, you know, it was just business. We're just doing nothing because he didn't want to say, Hey, I really wanted you to think you were coming back because I wanted you to come beg us for a job so we can get you cheaper than what you're asking for. Which is exactly what he's saying without saying. I mean, it was interesting. Again, our truth. Another guy that incredibly likeable. And I forgot how talented he was early in his career until they showed just a few clips of him when he first came up as K quick. And he stood out and then he was gone and went to TNA where he was used as a top guy. He was an NWA world champion. Wasn't a comedy figure. You forget that. But he is certainly I agree with them that he does their comedy stuff better than anyone else ever. And I don't think you necessarily need a silly comedy component on your shows. But if you're going to have it, he's the very best. Have the guy that does it the best with that said, he's in his what mid fifties. 53, I believe because so that's that was the that was another of the points you're going to sign a multi year contract with a 53 year old wrestler. And you hear all the wrestlers like I can't even imagine WWE without our truth. I mean, you could have said that about Jay Strongbow. You could have said that about anybody who's been there a long time, but it's wrestling. Eventually. A lot of people could imagine the WWF without Jay Strongbow. I'll vouch for that. But that's the point. It's not make a wish. I die. But I'm not knocking the guy either. And yeah, like you said, he. He does the comedy as well as the comedy can be done. But I was interested then when he came back and that one time he cut the promo and he cut his hair off on the at least the front of it and you're thought, OK, they're going to let him see what he can do as a real guy for the last year or two or whatever they're assigned for. And then they got this and they disappeared again. So is his hair back. I don't even remember from the last time we saw him on Raw. Did he grow his hair back exactly the same as it was? I do. Well, at G's, it those dreadnoughts, dreadnoughts, dreadlocks are like two feet long. I would think it'd take a while to grow that. He may be he may be working on his hair for the rest of his contract. So, you know, season one of Unreal, so much of it was about everything leading up to the rock Travis Scott thing with John Cena. And Cena is obviously a big part of number two here. But it was almost like he was in the background. He didn't do an interview. I don't believe. Right. He didn't participate the way everyone else did. And also. Again, it didn't take the business being up or the business. Actually, I don't know if it was up. It was terms of crowd attendance. It wasn't. But business being up because of the system being up is different than John Cena's heel turn causing big business, which didn't happen. He might not have wanted to sit down and talk about it because he couldn't. He couldn't come up with a lot of good reasons to justify it. Perhaps. I don't know. But that's and then on this back to Episode two. Naomi and Jimmy Uso another married couple with a kid and I'm not going to go back and say everything I said. A lot of my comments in Episode one. If you've just joined us late, folks, go back and listen or go to YouTube. But the same things I said about the show in Episode one, I don't want to know their mundane married lives and their trials and tribulations. He's supposed to be superstars. And they they told the story of Naomi walking out, which I'd forgotten that she was the other part of that thing. But it was her and Sasha Banks, old Mercedes moon that in 2022 walked out and gave them the tag team belts that here we're leaving. And they said Sasha Banks once and then kept saying Naomi and her partner. Yeah. The other thing they kept saying the old. The head. Well, the then head of talent relations. Instead of saying John Laurinitis, which now is like saying, shit, I guess, then the head of talent relations. But she the way they presented this and I hope to God this was exaggerated or edited improperly or whatever, but she didn't tell Jimmy. She was leaving the building. With that's what she said. That's what he said. And then that's what she said. Well, fuck that. They're married. You're. I can't imagine. Number one, if, if when we've been working together in a locker room and Stacy decided she was going to quit and walk out and didn't tell me. And secondly, if I had decided I was going to quit and walk out, I don't went and got her and took her with me. How the fuck would this imagine if Stacy walked out like that and she was making hundreds of thousands of dollars. You know what I mean? Like it's it's not just like, hey, I'm making 50 bucks and I can leave Naomi walked out on all that. Yeah, in that case, I may have let her stay gone. But. It was that footage of her and Jimmy is the cook in the house and they got a dog and that's that's wonderful. But. It basically I skipped a bunch of shit and when she turned to heal, she got over. She started cutting great promo. She won the women's money in the bank ladder match. And so far, everything's great. More on that to come. And then they they go back to the. The scene and Cody universe where they had the. Match with Cena and Logan Paul against Cody and Uso and our truth ran in and the fans went nuts and. That's what Triple H said. He was so happy you're back and road dogs and nobody told me, but I'm happy he's back and. And then he's forgotten after that. What do you think of that? It's not the only time in the series where. Triple H K-Phabes, either wrestlers or agents or commentators. What do you think of that? Seth Rollins, that's what it was when he came back from the injury with the surprise cash. Yeah. Oh, and we're coming up on that, but he's he's doing he's done it. To your question, he's done it more than just in that instance with that being the one everybody focused on with the fake Seth Rollins injury. But. I mean, here's the again. If this was the normal regular wrestling business that existed up until about. 10 or 15 years ago, even up there. Until it got to be so big that there's. A larger group of people now that just expect to be told about everything and. God damn, you know, thankfully the Manhattan project wasn't run that way or, you know, the fucking. The Eskimos on the Aleutian Islands would have had the atomic bomb. But also. You can't trust the boys anymore. And I say the boys and the girls and the talent. And the birds and the bees and the flowers and the trees. Is everybody wants to text somebody or everybody's got a fucking cell phone or everybody's got instant communication. And it's just it's. In some cases, there are things that not. Everybody needs to know and. It to be quite honest. As a regular matter of course, in any company that I've worked for. Unless you were involved in the production meeting or you went and asked. The actual people in a segment you didn't if you were a talent you didn't know what anybody else was doing. Besides what you could read on the format. See so and so versus so and so or so and so promo. Nobody told you about other people shit. And I mean now there's a dozen referees. So I don't. I think it's it's good that not everybody needs to know every goddamn move everybody's going to make. But it's ridiculous sometimes with the things that they kayfabe just to be as Vince used to say kayfabe in themselves. Yeah, the over productions a whole nother story. I mean again calling spots from the back telling the referee everything to do just calling every single thing from a headset. I mean it's somewhat crazy to me. I guess when you think of wrestling like a Hollywood thing like WWE does that makes sense. But. Nothing. Nothing feels ad libed for a reason. Yeah, well and also they all the talent the announced talent you would hear over the past 15 years or whatever would complain that Vince was always in their ear the announcer scream it out and say that or say that or do this. McFauley quit over that one time when he was an announcer he quit the company went to T&A. So Vince I like you and I want to keep liking you and I'm not if you don't stop yelling at me. But that was producing the announcers because Vince used to be the announcer now is triple H and or his producers because they used to be wrestlers now they're produced to fucking wrestlers. Nevertheless would you like to move on to the following episode. That was episode two or yeah that's what it was episode two let's talk about episode three of WWE unreal. It's amazing how that three follows right after episode two. This is now getting into the vision where Paulie is joined up with Seth and they've turned on punk and Roman at WrestleMania last year and then suddenly they went into a penta segment because they wanted to feature penta I guess they chose him for the Hispanic audience and. I tried to skip most of this because I don't give a shit. But apparently in worlds colliding they're also going to feature Chelsea green and Chelsea green had a match against penta. In 2018. Which she apparently is just. Incredibly happy about. And I don't know which is worse that they had it or that they told us about it when nobody knew to begin with. And then they had a segment on Chelsea in her new house that is being built. Is that for because hurricanes in Florida do they build the houses the walls with concrete blocks. I would presume that was my thought watching this. Because god damn that's honest look I mean I could see if that was like a dental office building or something. But they build regular homes with concrete block walls. Fucking hell. Anyway I skipped that too. You got to keep the weather out in Florida. Well fuck. I don't we have tornadoes here but if you just have to go ahead and just start from scratch building your walls with concrete blocks. I believe I'd move where it was a softer climate. I'm sure Chelsea is a wonderful person she's a definitely a hard worker. And she takes advantage of all her opportunities but I again I don't care. And then they were in the writer's room talking about Chelsea and Zalina. Then they did a bit of a little segment on Bronbreaker and then they went back to Penta Jesus Christ. And I was thinking this fucking show sucks. But then they got to the ladder the money in the bank ladder match and Abyss and you mentioned you know Abyss seems a little hyper and high strung he also loves gimmick matches and here's the thing. I it's it's a special talent. I don't know what part of the brain it has to do with. But I will tell you about Abyss he can sit down and hear one of these goddamn convoluted fucking gimmick man I know this from TNA was convoluted gimmick matches all this bullshit going on. And then he can tell it back to you verbatim move for move and thing for thing. I. And that's why I was no wrestler from. 30 years ago or more would have probably been able to exist in today's environment because if you gave them all that shit they go what are you out of your fucking mind. But he can do it. Nevertheless, this is the part. Where they've emasculated poor L.A. night. They wanted a close finish with Seth Rollins and L.A. night. And they did a nice package on the match with guns and roses welcome to the jungle. And Seth even made the comments did you hear him. I hate money in the bank matches the ladders the clutter and the ring there's too much bullshit going on. And I've said for anybody that actually wants to be able to wrestle instead of just do goofy stunts, it's just garbage in your way you're going to get hurt on. But nevertheless, here's what I was going to ask you Brian. Did you like the finish that triple H told him that he had wanted afterwards or the one that he told him to do beforehand. And then they kind of sort of they kind of sort of did the one that he told him to do beforehand or told the best to have him do. And then went into a lot more goddamn detail when they didn't do it right. What do you had wished they had done. I did. I heard two different things. Again, triple H has a very unique way of delegating I guess would be the word. And then just sitting there as the grand Puba overseeing everything. I felt bad for LA night. The way this was presented because it really made him seem like the dipshit. He would have been the biggest dipshit in this series if not for the Lyra Valkyria thing from Summer's Land which they just showed you everyone's face as it fell apart. Oh God yeah. You know, I just saw the other day the Twilight Zone episode where Buddy Epson had the ability to help his friend win in dice. He had some sort of. Yes. He had the telekinesis power. I forget the name of the actor who played the gambler, but he looked just like LA night. I was fascinated watching. I was like, that's LA night. But yeah, what do you think about all this? Well, let's. Again, they he went into a lot more detail about what was wrong with it afterwards that would have been helpful to have been conveyed beforehand. But I'm thinking of triple H is standing there telling a biz to get the finish to give them why triple H is going to give it to him. In front of a biz and it's okay. A lot of times that's what I would do if I was in position where I had to give a finish out, but there was also a producer. I'd give it to everybody at the same time. So okay, now you guys can go help each other. Remember and put things together or whatever and come back. But there's the gist of or whatever. Instead, he's like whisper. Okay, go over and tell him this. I. Again, some of this much of this maybe. Is being shot for television and they know they're mic. And so I don't know what conversations are being recreated with acceptable verbiage. But if I'd been late night, I don't know if I'd have been happy while I was sitting there or they're telling me everything I did wrong when it kind of looked like they almost did the fucking. I know there could have been a little more drama. But they kind of almost did the finish that I first heard to begin with. And again, it's these goofy gimmick matches. And then the rest of this show. Basically was more Penta Paul Heyman loves Penta. He went on his infrequent sit ins in the writers room there. He loves Penta but more on Paul in future episodes but. The this that ends with them putting the vision more together and he'll seen a beaten punk. At night of champions and blah blah blah and were headed towards SummerSlam. Was this the episode where they showed Penta's training school. I believe it was. Yes, as well as him and his neighborhood and him with subtitles which helped to some extent but I. He was training children though and they were actually bumping better than a lot of the guys. They were quite well. That's another thing is I'm wondering. I don't know what the personal injury laws are in Mexico. But he's in Mexican terms a multi-millionaire because of his WWE contract and income and if he and his spare time. 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Let's end on that note since we have a statement. We agree with each other. One more time that link surf shark.com slash JCE. All right. Trying to get a tiger die here. It's not really. Come on. Today. Come on. Come on. Come on. Today's a special. There we go. Now this one's stuck up and now it's not working. All right, back to WWE Dynamite. No, it was WWE Dynamite. Unreal number four is the name of this show. Performance art. Again. I have seen married couples that did not have the affection for each other that these people have for the smell of their own flatulence. So triple eight starts this program pitching the idea would have Seth has a knee injury. But he's only working it. It's not only was it his idea but he's admitting to it. And they've got to spend the rest of this episode and I think maybe the next one. Trying to justify it and act like it was a good idea and that it worked because it created doubt and a blah, blah, blah. And again, this is one of the senior writers as she's captioned the woman giggling over this idea. There's always different writers in the writers room. There was a woman in here. She's got a bucket size drink cup. Maybe she was crocked. But who is this person and I won't be sexist. I will give the same consideration as I give to the guys to the women. You mean to tell me that they can find this woman and some other woman that was sitting there that goddamn just out of nowhere because they went to writing school somewhere. There has not been one female talent that's gone through their program in the last 25 years that had any aptitude any interest in booking or being brought on to the creative team to try to. Nobody beuler. Yes, see, that's the thing too, because this is like the wrestling committees of old in a sense. There's one person on top, but it's just a bunch of people pitching ideas, throwing at ideas. The way wrestlers became bookers was they were kind of noticed for having ideas by the promoter or the book or whoever it may be. Yes. Like you just said, you mean that there's no one, whether woman or man, because other than Bobby rude and the road dog. I don't think any wrestlers were in that room while we saw the show. But specifically the women. There's no one who is an idea person. No one who I know man. She always had good finishes or she always had good ideas. No one. That's what I'm saying. And I mean, maybe a Trish Stratus. I'm just throwing a name out. But made too much money and. She lives in Canada. She don't want to fuck with it or whatever. But even some of the girls that were OK, because this is where you often find, if you notice, the greatest bookers were usually just the OK talents. But they had an aptitude in the other direction. Um, like baseball. Nobody's whether there you go, but nobody, nobody, none of their girls in their program has ever. They put warriors fucking wife. Who didn't know a wrist lock from a wristwatch as the old saying goes on the creative team just as a publicity stunt, right, that one time. But there are no. I was Vince. Active female wrestlers on the booking staff whatsoever. So all right. So the point is. They come up with this idea that Seth is going to have a fake knee injury. And then. Paul has been on the thing. With comments from here and there and backstage or cage leaves in the writer's room, but now finally he's sitting down and they've got. They got one of those fish eye lenses so they could get a close up on his face and not cut any of his jowls off. And he was my favorite part literally of this whole series because even though he is cooperating with it. He still wants to try to act like he's not wanting to cooperate with it for the sake. He's getting himself over is what he's doing here. There's so much back and forth reverse psychology that is often with Paulie, you know, your head spins, but he is presenting this. In a manner that's palatable to him and he can still use his dramatic verbiage, but he's still cooperating with the thing. He said they ask him the question, what is a work? And he said, what's a work? I'd like to invoke my fifth amendment privilege. I'm not a fan of this show. I grew up in an era you defended the business or you were beaten up and ostracized. It's true. And it's hard for a person like a jarring for a person like me from an era where secrecy was life and death. To you know, to quiet again, this is great for Paul because Paul's always doing a promo. And then he said, depose me. I'll treat this like a deposition. I mean, at least he's entertaining within the parameters of this thing. And do you see Paul Heyman as nervous and troubled and, you know, ready to fucking spill his guts about his, you know, previous substance abuse or what? Or do you see the Paul Heyman that you would imagine when you watch the wrestling show that that's Paul Heyman? Do you see what I'm trying to say, Brian? I think the difference is Paul Heyman has always been secure in being Paul Heyman. A lot of other people seem like they're still trying to figure themselves out. I did. All I know is Heyman, even when he is exposing the business and breaking kayfabe and telling you how the sausage is made, he still talks like fucking Paul Heyman from television. And sounds like that guy would sound or you would think he should sound and it looks like you think he should look. Because he's a genius. Morbidly obese, but a genius. Well, it's going to be a shame when inevitably his poor health decisions cut short this incredible career. But he said a work in wrestling is not as important today as it used to be, except at the very top level, which is actually true because they've now. You used to be able to take middle card guys that's people kind of liked and shoot an angle with them where you could put them on top for a week or two. And it would. But now no, if everybody's done so much and everything's been done that unless it's the top half dozen guys in the business doing something, it's not going to make that much difference either way. It does to the individual wrestlers, but not the gate. And he got a he got an ECW story in about when ECW and they blinded the Sandman. He didn't leave his house for five weeks. I mean, it could tell the same story about J. Y. D. Or whatever. He said, was it a worker? Was it performance arts? But that's, you know, I started thinking because Becky is going to make a big deal out of this. I think is it in this show? I'm trying to look ahead at my notes. No, I'll wait till I'll wait till the next show to talk about working the injuries. But I mean, but then they go to jelly roll because we got to have a celebrity, right? And again, the nicest guy in the world. He comes off as and I'm glad he's got his. Waited his health under control and. I wish he'd do something about the face tattoos. I don't know what the fuck he was. He just gave up on life early before he realized he's going to be a millionaire. And now he's got to be thinking, why the fuck did I do this? But. The thing is. He's the furthest thing from a natural when he was in the ring, but he was working his ass off and he was humble at the same time. So I'm not knocking him as a person or even knocking the idea that they were able to get a big star and put him in a tag team match at on a big show. But did we have to see him laying there and then walking through laying on the table in the exact position that Logan Paul is going to splash him. And again, make sure you sit up a little bit and blah, blah, blah. It just it gets so. Minute. Do you see what I'm saying that. Yeah. Well, again, he wanted to feel what the table would feel like before he actually had to do it because he didn't want to feel it for the first time during the. Match. Laying on a table. Michael Hayes, I believe, was the one who gave me the advice to lean up a little bit. What are your thoughts on Michael Hayes in this series? I think he comes across great. Yes, he does because he's put a gimmick though. I don't know why does he wear the hat even indoors? I bet you he's got a bald spot. Well, that's he was losing his hair. It would only be natural at this point. He's a bit. But besides the fact that he looks preposterous, he gives like the wise old uncle advice. They don't focus on him per se, but they're not. They're bringing him in for a pithy comment every now and then. And again, he knows. The psychology of the whole thing, but at the same time he's been there long enough to understand. What they fucking want these days. So yeah, I like Michael's. Comments aren't that that bad and they're entertaining, but. Anyway, it. They go into the Seth thing. Where triple H is still trying to say how cool it's going to be if everybody believes he's really hurt. And he's telling Cody how important it is. They're over in the arena talking the two of them quietly. It's important that we can't fave this. Don't let anybody in the circle, right? They're might. And then. Yeah. And by the way, and by the way, remember the story got out. I think it was John Pollock reported that they're going to do some kind of knee injury angle. And then when it happened, Dave Meltzer, when people started attacking him, one of those times he wasn't wrong, he was pointing out. Look, it was reported here in advance. So whatever that small circle was, one of them leaked it. We'll see you again. God damn it. What are they thinking? They're saying that. Well, we're only going to tell so and so and so and so on the writing team and so and so in the match. And then so and so has to know that's like five, six people. They're might and they're being recorded and how many of the crew people that are coming in the game. They're might and they're being recorded and how many of the crew people that are carrying the camera that are listing on headphones with the audio off camera that are reviewing this footage at the end of the day. They're logging this footage for eventual editing and who's saying what and what the time codes are. If it was just the five or six people like it used to be in the wrestling business that was just being told that by each other. Yeah, you can keep a secret. But you've just did the five or six people by virtue of being part of this television production about the television production. And you've released the circle of trust about 35 fucking people. Some of whom don't even work full time in the wrestling business. So that's how it got leaked. And remember the end the re and I still say that it triple eight said in this show the comment was toward the end of the match. Heard his knee and go down. And it as I remember, they hadn't had a lot of match. And remember that's the thing is the reason why I was fooled about it initially was I said, what could be the benefit to doing rotten television on a major TV special to having a boring, awkward flat moment in front of a big crowd and a big TV special in a main event match. Why would you do that on purpose. They did it on purpose. And they said they wanted it to be awkward and bad. And that's an LA night when he was being told this finish looked as thrilled as if they said they were going to send his cat to the electric chair. He and they were talking about how good he was acting in the match when they did the finish. He wasn't acting. You could see on his face this fucking sucks. This is the shits I could have torn the house down with this guy. Even if he beat me but now they're going to do this this way. Am I lying Brian. You're not lying Brian. Well my feet ain't left the ground. But anyway, so no wonder they couldn't keep it secret this was part of this production. And they were making a point to go and Mike and shoot at they. They might triple H when he said. Seth didn't want LA night to know what does he have to know. He's a well triple eight. So if if the situation was reversed and I didn't tell you all OK I see. God damn maybe that this a bunch of loose lip syncing ship motherfuckers. But anyhow, they have the fucking match. And Seth said I can't take full credit for this idea. Good Lord. I don't know why anybody want to. But that's again Bobby Roots and all five or six people knew plus the writers plus the crew shooting the unreal put the blah blah blah. And when they showed the highlights the match I think they showed practically the whole match. But the injury spot again was is awkward and rotten. As you remember it and while the people that were involved in it and did it. We're trying to justify it. Remember not only did we shit on it as a bad piece of television but then everybody on the Internet saw through it in the next four or five days or whatever and it didn't make that much difference. Yeah all those cameras back there for that nothing covered the reaction to Goldberg running long or being short. It was the same night. It was the same night as the Goldberg retirement. That's right. That was completely left out of this. Well you know there's only so much time. But then any comments on the the whole Seth Rollins knee thing. The injury at least we won't get the reveal that it's a work until the next episode but before I go into how they close this thing off. You know I go back to the angle they did I think Seth Rollins did about as good as anyone could ever possibly do to feign a knee injury. I thought he did a great job that night and Heyman's reaction to ringside just the whole thing. But they basically blew up a match on a show to build to a moment on another show a few months later later that month whatever it was. And I guess that's kind of modern WWE. It's all just about moments they don't care about the matches the results anything. The only things that really register are getting big moments because big moments go viral and then you can pretend like look at how big and successful we are because this was retweeted 10 billion times. No one retweets a lot of the average crap that happens on SmackDown and Raw every week because all they're doing is building to big moments and that's that's what they did they blew up the LA night Rollins match to do the angle. And by the way it was a great moment when he threw the crutches down and cash it on punk. It would have been better if he didn't get hurt right away you know surely. Yeah yeah yeah but you know as Bobby Eden would say he burnt the bread on himself. You know Seth Rollins stuff with the vision you know it's like we always talk about Seth Rollins the guy that draws the money or the guy that the guy that draws money works with. It reminds me of Edgewood Judgment Day. When he faked the injury it was pretty obvious and now that he's really injured it's clear as day the Heyman group benefits from not having him. Everyone else is elevated right away not having him there. So you know that's the other interesting thing to point out. And so and to be fair to Seth Franklin Rollins because of this injury and when he comes back he'll be a bigger baby face and a more benefit than he would have been as the heal that he was before he got hurt. Unless he gets hurt again right away that's the problem that's the I guess the issue I'm talking about here they built up the big moment for him and punk which has been an overriding feud behind the scenes and then up front. For a couple years now and then they pull the trigger on that and he didn't last much longer and he's gone down before and his knees gone down now his shoulders down or whatever. That's the thing I worry about he wrestles a very physical style. You know is he going to have to work a Roman Reigns kind of schedule one match every five months to make sure he doesn't break down. I don't know. Well actually you got a better chance of breaking down you only wrestle one time every five months but you'd see what you're saying. But anyway they finished this show off and I'm just going to again we're EO Sky and I know there's a bunch of people that love EO Sky and they gave her subtitles to and etc etc but they now have this is what I took from this segment. They now have a WWE stunt coordinator. And he's not one of the boys either. He has a tape measure and he measures out and tapes off on the floor. EO's jump off an equipment case and they have the crash pads and I get he comes out with the special effects shit that they use when they do high falls it sees a movie guy. So now it's double fake because it looks fake anyway when they're standing there waiting for some knucklehead to jump off a precipice on top of them all cut you. But it's double fake now because they pre-plan it to the point at least there is at least something to be said for the boys when they first started this stuff. When they just looked around and went say you know what if I fucking climb up that goddamn basketball goal I can fucking do the cross body off the goal on okay I'll catch you. And they just went with it. But now it's just. It there's stunt coordinators was to quote Jackie Fargo what have they done to my fucking business. So they did a whole girl segment on the evolution pay per view that. Not many people saw and it but it ended with Naomi winning the women's title and getting over like crazy. And all the girls were celebrating with her and triple H loved it and we thought well she's great. And of course this show ended before we got the bad news that all that greatness was going to come to a fucking screeching halt. But I. I'm a fucking stunt coordinator. God damn it. Just take a learn to take a fucking backdrop. All right. Yeah. Well that was episode four of WWE unreal we're in a good mood today folks. One more episode to go. Well that's right it was unreal number five the the climactic finish they titled the show the pop. And then this is what I never mentioned this earlier in the program but then and again I'm not going to go back all of my overriding comments that I made on show number one about the general tone of the thing that everybody's a nervous wreck and everybody's freaking out and I don't want to know that Joe Laduke had a cute poodle I don't want to know that wrestling heroes are a bunch of insecure knit with with fucking the problems with the electric bill I don't know what the fuck. But now here was Becky. Lynch was freaking out about who she had to lie to about says me. I'm letting you lie and I'm gonna lie it's working. You're not lying to your goddamn friends about important matters you are protecting the wrestling business that's working and we've always known. And any family members would know. That's what you do you don't have to even stress about it you're working to protect the fucking business. But she's freaking out about having a live respond to all the texts. How many people do you know Brian. That would would text or call to see if you broke your leg on TV on a wrestling show to see if it was real or not. I mean if I pulled it off as well as Seth Rollins did again he did a great job. I'm sure Suzanne would get a lot of messages from people that know us wondering if it happened or not I don't know if she would have this moral dilemma that Becky Lynch had. She was lying to her manager or you know whatever she said but they didn't lie to the preschool teacher. I don't know. Well see I'm just thinking this is another thing this is why you don't have kids folks her daughter smart and one of the teachers up. That's why you don't have kids can't trust them. You could trust them. Blabbermouth have kids they're wonderful. They they they're blabbermouths. But I'm just thinking here's the thing I was thinking OK if when I blew my leg on a scaffold match right. If that had been a work. How hard would it have been for me to keep it a secret. And I was trying to okay my mom was smart to the business already because before I got in it. Regardless of what she saw on television she knew if I didn't call her and tell her I got hurt I wouldn't hurt. The rest of my family. Didn't watch fucking wrestling on TV so they wouldn't see me for months at a time and not think anything was wrong. My close friends. Besides almost everybody I knew was involved in the wrestling business in some fashion or another. But my closest friends it would be outside the business still watched wrestling. And again would have probably been able to determine whether I was really hurt or not just by watching the angle and seeing what the fucking look like. And now that I think of a one of them would have probably been Brian Hildebrand and he actually was in the business just at a lower level by that point. My next door neighbors in Charlotte. Fuck sometimes they didn't see me for a week or two anyway. I was on a fucking road and then I've mentioned. The guy next to me lived or lived it and worked at. US air and he would leave for work at five o'clock in the morning while I was had got in from the show and was cooking cheeseburgers ready to go to bed. So we never really had any interaction. So I could have stayed in the house and just sold it for a fucking month and nobody would have really missed me. What if there was social media? Who the fuck besides my significant other that I was living with at the time and my doctor and my mother and anybody in the business. Who the fuck would need to know that I wasn't hurt. That's the thing too. Seth Rollins is like I hate these crutches. Why did you have to go so many places that required crutches just stay home for a month. Yeah. Or if not use crutches. I don't know what the anyway the point is. I don't see why it would be necessary to let him know he's tweaked his knee. We're hoping four to six weeks it'll be fine. What the fuck is Jesus Christ. And nevertheless, also I'll say again if Ed Koski had walked into a locker room in the 1980s the guys would have been flushing their fanny packs. What a narc looking plain fucking white guy. I can't imagine him trying to tell any wrestler to do anything. Jelly Roll international superstar and yacht broker from Toulon France is a scared nervous person he was scared of being rejected. He wanted to lose but because he didn't want you know to get the heat from the fans but Triple H wasn't quite sure yet the day of the show bullshit. Put again, Jelly Roll he's a big music star he's I can understand him being nervous about the wrestling part but everybody's goddamn nervous everybody scared to fucking death everybody's insecure. Everybody has flaws and problems and real life. I don't want you people to be fucking human. The fuck is a matter with you. I want to think the rock star takes all the drugs and fucks all the pussy. Yeah. So, they got to SummerSlam. And Jelly Roll got splashed through the desk Brian. And it was a heck of a bump and they replayed it from every direction but it would. It'd be even better if they hadn't told us it was going to happen and hadn't showed us Jelly Roll laying on the table that afternoon to get the feel of it. And you know they the punk then beat good oh the part where they had Paul on the bus going over the finish with Seth. Like it's some kind of goddamn eavesdropping they're doing without the participants being aware of it. They're miked. I get a camera shot at the outside of the bus but you hear Paul going over the finish with Seth to reveal the fake injury and the audio is clearer than, well I was going to say clearer than our audio but you'd goddamn get violent over that comment. Clearer than TNA's audio on AMC. How's that? Are you still awake? I'm still awake. You know Jelly Roll like you said he seems like a very nice guy. I'm so grateful to be there. Notwithstanding every bit of his music I hear I hate with a passion. And I don't want to hear again another thing now country is like emo. I don't want to hear about anyone's emotions anymore enough about everyone else's emotions in song or in promos. But he's like the epitome of what WWE hopes a celebrity would be. Is that what the the emo kids could if it's from emotion. Yeah. I did I was today years old when I knew when I found that out I thought they were all imitating emo Phillips. Do you remember there was that guy dashboard confession you know it was just this one guy on guitar singing the wimpiest emo songs and they would just be like all these like sappy looking kids sitting around him singing all the words with him. It's like oh man am I not a part of this scene. And no man do I not like anyone in this scene. That's the way country is now and or whatever this guy does and they played some of his music but seems like a very nice guy and again if WWE is going to use celebrities that's the best case scenario guys like him are bad bunny they're so grateful and appreciative to be there and get a chance to do something they grew up watching much like the wrestlers that they'll go the extra mile and put in all this effort and then you see Travis Scott who they're not even mentioning anymore who is a big part of you know season one of the show and now he's gone. And he's gone. Yeah. But you know all things considered jelly roll. I mean you can ask too much more from a celebrity if you're going to book him like that I'm not saying you should. You know he did as well as you could I think. Yeah well now he's a wonderful fellow all these people are such nice people. So then the main event that night was punk beaten Gunther and winning the belt and then Seth doing the entrance and drop the crutches and surprise surprise surprise. And he cashed in and won the belt and everybody kissed and congratulated each other but we still had night to. And we still have a couple of these stories to wrap up and by the end. Why is Cody Rhodes taking yoga in a room in Georgia with a bunch of soccer moms. It's probably brand these boys. Because men have jobs men don't usually in the middle of the day are going to take yoga class with all the women. But certainly he I'm not saying because I don't mean that he's at work at an office during the day and his schedule just wouldn't permit. I'm like why would a goddamn pro wrestler certainly this was done specifically for the television show. I can't think of a time in my life that I would have wanted to go into a room of 20 strange civilian women. It engage in any kind of goddamn training or activity that would stretch and talk to these people. By the way you can invite me anytime you want ladies to the room with 20 strange women want to bend and stretch all over the place. I'll go well I've been told you stay home. You have to bend and stretch in your own little cubicle there you're not allowed to play twister or else why is there maybe something to it. It's not a cubicle there's no walls. Well there's some invisible walls I was seeing that I bet you if you just went for a two handed press on top of the other lady next to you that that wouldn't get over. It's a great place to meet women when you're single. He's not even single. He just have to talk to all these fucking people. Anyway I think Michael Hayes at this point is the one who admitted that the heel Cena just wasn't working out. They were they were like well the mania match with Cody and Cena didn't they weren't happy with it. The guys we want to give them the big one this time. Michael Hayes was the closest one to admit it wouldn't you say. Well then they tried to justify and explain the last minute Smackdown babyface turn in a promo. Right before the street fight and then Cody even had to say we just figured we'll have a street fight like two respectable opponents who acknowledge that it's what the fuck way it's a street fight. You don't just have a street fight and wrestling between two people who don't have an issue. So they said we found out Cody's going to go shoot a movie so we'll just have John act nice again. And they'll drink over here. What. Well they got a smooth it over some kind of way. But nevertheless before we get to that we got to finish up the little storyline with old Becky and Lyric and they had the gimmick. This was the best part of the whole story. Right here watching this in real time was great. And as Lyric said anything that could go wrong did. And I didn't even see the one spot when lyrics out there throwing Becky into the railing and the barricade out on the floor she spun her around and threw her into the photographer. But he just smiled and turned and walked away. I was a what the fuck because these are just random people doing they do this as a job. They don't know what the fuck about the wrestling business. Number one as an ex photographer. He shouldn't have been where he was because even though it looked like Lyric was going to roll Becky into the ring and she was going to spin around and throw into the rail. He walked in between the wrestlers on the floor and the hard camera. And he was only like three feet away he didn't need to get out of the way that bad he could have gone the other way. Secondly when this stupid son of a bitch got run into he should have taken a bump. When I was a photographer if the boys had thrown somebody into me like that and I didn't go down and stay down they would have figured out a way to fucking come back and put me down. I come I was in. I was offended by that spot. Well she is a person who's been in multiple positions in that goddamn equation and they showed everyone in the back laughing about the fact that she apologized. I guess she's in this much. She put her hands up to everyone in the crowd can see that she apologized. She said oh I'm so sorry. She should have fucking flippered the guy to put him down. Anyway then the zip ties fucked up and we remember that where it was Lyric's idea where her hands would be zip tied. But then they came loose when they weren't supposed to and she thought well maybe the camera missed it and put him back on. And then we didn't know she couldn't get him back off again. Once she put him back on she couldn't get him off again when they needed to be off. And then there was old TJ Wilson with the heart family kid who was the producer was on the headset. I'm not sure what's happening. And remember we said my god this thing wouldn't end it went forever they went 10 minutes over. So Becky's summation of it was well it wasn't the worst match of all time. Well no but for the platform. And Becky wouldn't yell at her and Cena tried to pepper up but she just sat there and just started crying on camera telling them all the things that went wrong and how much it meant to her and how will we only get one take. Then don't come up with all this shit that you don't work. It was crazy watching her meltdown backstage just as her eyes continued to like swell and get red and cry just. Man this series just reaffirmed my thoughts that she's not a star. I hate to say it but they pushed her. We're not we're not being we're not being pricks we're not saying fuck you leave you know it's like some people. Just shouldn't be in show business. I wasn't saying that but some people are in the mid card and that's their role and it works for them but the idea that she's going to be one of the big stars of the future or that they see big things from her. I haven't heard it in the promos. I haven't seen it in the ring. I don't see it. I just don't see it. I don't see it. But I'm just saying that. You know we've talked before about you know China or people that meet untimely or of any gender meet untimely or tragic ends sometimes people just might not need to be in show business. But everybody's again on the verge of a nervous breakdown in this company and apparently in this profession. And then they finished up the scene and Cody thing and honestly I was over the whole series by this point they had their match they hugged in the ring. The fans cheered Cena and then Brock came out and killed Cena. And what did you think of them clearing gorilla before Brock was there. Well again. I don't know whether some of this is done for the television program or whether they would have to do this anyway. But you mean to tell me that they in their inner circle at the gorilla position where we used to even discourage the boys on the card from sitting there because they were taking up fucking space. And we didn't have a lot of space and people didn't need to if your job wasn't to be there don't be there. But now they can't trust these guys not to immediately get on their phone and tweet because if you have to clear the gorilla position to keep a secret of Brock is about to go out. The only way that they'd be able to tell somebody is if they actively pulled out their phone and texted somebody right then Brock's here. He's going out in 60 seconds. They can't even trust their own inner circle people not to do that. I mean I've I've been a part of a number of surprise debuts or redabuse or appearances or whatever where we told the story ahead in center stage for WCW me and the bodies hidden the fucking maintenance closet. Over ring of honor I was at that hotel next door to the Manhattan Center in a room until five minutes before I went out or in the WWF whatever the case. But at some point you have to be seen by somebody in the back and I can't believe we can't keep those secrets anymore. Well that was the end of Unreal Episode five they promised another season I believe this summer this summer so we get another season and fucking five or six months. Oh bless him oh joy oh bliss but it's going to be about Sena's remaining time with the company from Summer Slam through his retirement so we've got that to look forward to. I think this show is counterproductive because I don't think it's attracting new people it's not really one of the top things on Netflix. It's just for WWE fans and all it does is expose bad things in my eyes this doesn't help anyone doesn't help the mystique around superstars. If you can have them all go out there and talk about their emotions stop calling them superstars. I want to OK if they do six seasons or whatever of Unreal where they just all spill their guts and tell their darkest secrets and all have mental meltdowns and nervous breakdowns. And then they sign M.J.F. and he comes in and talks about all his money and how his dick is ten inches long and he fucks porn stars and he's better than you and you know it and that's really him. It's the ultimate plan to get one motherfucker over as a fucking heel. Well maybe a long time before M.J.F. could appear on this show. I said six seasons I'm not trying to rush him with them either. You know these these things go a little bit goes a long way. Well this highlighted a period of time where WWE was doing record box office business all across the world. 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That's going to get you that that's going to get you hurt if you don't stop and that's going to get you the $1.00 a month trial period where they can show you all the wonderful things they can do to you. And then they get the hook in you and you're off to the races. And just remember folks if you think you can do it all by yourself. Well do you want to spend the rest of your life doing it all by yourself or do you want to have somebody come in and pay them a little bit to do it for you. See that's the decision you got to make. Shopify dot com slash C E. All righty well Brian now I guess we got to talk about cousin Tony's empire over there the other the WWE stuff looks halfway OK and they go to great details to tell us it's fucking phony. And then in AEW they don't bother to tell us because we can just look at the shit and see that it's as phony as a football bat. So which is better in your opinion. Which is better for what exactly which which is better phoniness. Is it better to try to pull some shit off and you halfway get away with it and then you spend a lot of time telling people you just fucking bullshitted them. Or is it just better to just go ahead and look as phony as fucking possible when you do it so that nobody gets confused. I don't know how to answer this question. I don't know. It's kind of like the guy that just walked into the ring and didn't do anything. You don't really know how to react to stuff like that. So so before we talk about the television show this week. Now the story has come out with all of this Netflix thing going on Netflix is going to buy WBD except Paramount still sell. No you're not. But you know I guess it depends on who comes through with the biggest favor or the biggest bribe for the current administration to ignore all the monopolistic tendencies of all this shit. But if Netflix ends up with Warner Brothers Discovery or part of it. They're only wanted by part of it. Then the story came out what was it the Hollywood reporter. It's not like you know Joe goofballs wrestling news. It's the Hollywood reporter. One would think that they know about these things that not only the question was answered first of all that WBD owns apparently 9% of AEW. Sometimes it's categorized as less than 10%. But I saw somebody say nine. And I guess Brian you know better than I do if it's under 10% that means they don't even have to really admit to it. That's right. They don't have to report it. Remember you know we've said this before we've talked on the air about the fact that we've been hearing rumors about this going back to the beginning of AEW. We were hearing it from people outside of wrestling. Originally people in the entertainment industry executives and then you started hearing it from wrestling reporters and I think even Dave Meltzer has said in the past. He never got a straight answer but he thought they must Brandon Thurston reports on the business same thing he thought it so lots of independent sources felt it Tony is battling in that moxley lawsuit to not reveal who owns AEW. You know this is still something they're trying to keep silent. It's not as simple as it's me and my dad or me and my dad's trust or whatever it is me and my shadow. There's something they've been trying to suppress with it. And apparently this is the story and it fits into the whole thing here because WBD is being sold and different parts are doing different things and. It also I mean I'll just say it here we can talk about it separately but it's interesting that to get AEW off the ground clearly Tony had to give the network a piece of the company to get on the network. And that's a lot different than I had a friend who worked there and we met up in a meeting and I said hey did you know wrestling used to be there and boom I had a show. Well but also it's not surprising and it's not that it's on a much larger scale but not that much different than in the old days in the territory days when. Okay then senior one to get on TV and Baltimore and he couldn't find a station but maybe so OK I'm going to give you. You know 5% of the gross of the Civic Center shows. Yeah he did that. That's right. You know I'm not saying I'm not saying that's a specific number in that market I'm saying that's a for instance but that was done in different markets so don't anybody. Write the history of Baltimore just say that but. Or in some cases. You would say OK I'm going to guarantee you that I'm going to spend X amount of dollars per show. In the market on advertising over and above the TV show there was different ways to do it. But in effect you got a better level of security. When you had the TV station as somewhat of a partner with you in something whether it be the live events or whatever or. You know going together on sponsorships where the furniture store that bought time from the station would also get a appearance from the wrestler whatever. That was security that your show would stay on here. So this is a souped up version of that but. Brian you're better at the business math type of thing than I am but basically does that mean they're getting like a 9% discount. They they own 9% of the thing so they pay X million dollars for the rights fees but they get 9% of it back eventually some kind of way or I get that's. That's not is it 9% of the profits of the pay-per-view 9% of the gross 9% of the gross. What is 9% again I don't know exactly how their dividend works or you know what exactly they're getting back. I have not gone through all their things to see if there's anything that has been reported. Do you think that this is maybe one of the reasons why that they may still be in good graces or if not in good graces why they're still trying to push this fucking show when it's. Viewership has dropped in half in five years they're like what should we get a stake in this fucking thing we always said. Whether it was the first deal or the second deal or the current deal it's cheap programming for them and it becomes cheaper if they actually own a piece of it. You know it's like Ted Turner having Captain Planet on TV. He owned it. Shit don't remind Tony he'll bring in a luchador. Well he's already done that but we could discuss that further in a moment but you know again the idea that they own a piece of it. And also looking at the specific things we just talked about the Trey Miguel thing the J brisco thing. Is it that their partner strongly feels this way is this someone contacting them like Russo style like hey you should know this. And then they do some seriously that's like one of those things you have to one is it just some crazed fan on blue sky saying I'm going to contact them and let them know until they do something you don't know. But there's some force that was phrased as being above Tony who could make decisions about who comes and who doesn't. So that's a nine if that's nine or less than 10% ownership stake what other decisions are they making or are they blocking. This could be the greatest higher power angle in all the history of wrestling. Who is it come to find out it's Aaron Nebish a fucking 50 year old fucking network executive from Cleveland. Anyhow the point is if Netflix buys Warner Brothers Discovery they're only going to buy a part of it they're going to split the rest of the company off into a discovery glider. They're going to be global. So that means the TV networks are going in one direction the streaming is going in the other direction. They pretty much come out and said that a W will not be on Netflix for obvious reasons. So if they're starting a streaming service from scratch that they will be on in the next few years. Then that may be a long road to hoe. But nobody right now knows past the Warner Brothers Discovery and Netflix and all these people if they get together and they make a deal of some description for some of this shit. They're going to fulfill contracts that already exist as best they can because it opens themselves up to multiple lawsuits during a stressful transition anyway if they don't. But the thing is this is not just the first element on any of their minds in this is not now what are we going to bet these wrestling shows would you agree Brian that. Of all the people in this merger on both sides uppermost in their mind is not the priority of what to do with the wrestling shows. I'd say that's fair. So that means exactly they're talking about this whole goddamn multi tens of billions of dollar deal. So at some point the deal that Tony has right now is going to have to change because there's going to be different streaming and TV network and fucking this and that and whatever. And they're going to have to figure out a way to put all this shit if they want to keep it. They're going to have to figure out a way to integrate all this shit if they can into the new environment or oh shucks we can't. And I think Tony needs to be looking out for that and. You know also is. Is he strong enough that he's going to get any deal approaching this from any other platform that has had this reach. AMC is interested in wrestling now. What if in two years they say oh fuck TNA. A bunch of fucking morons let's go with this company. Well are they going to do more than 300,000 views on AMC. If that you see what I'm saying. Well I think they would. I don't think it would be a big drop from TBS to AMC would be somewhat of a drop but TNA did garbage numbers for their debut and I can only imagine what it's going to be going forward. A.W. would have beat that. And A.W. is a better show than TNA. Well yes. But you know I guess my thoughts are going to that percentage less than 10%. Is there an option for Tony and ShadCon to buy out their partners. Not even talking about how that would affect the television do or anything but if they wanted to move on. Do they have the option to buy out Warner Brothers Discovery and secondly we're talking about a lot of things going forward. Let's look to the past. What happens to the catalog. Tony Con and A.E.W. On everything going back to 2019 Tony after the fact when and bought Ring of Honor he got all out or all in or whatever was first. Yeah. He does have enough stuff for a streaming platform and if we are to believe that A.E.W. is getting 140,000 pay per view buys a pay per view on average. Even with the television numbers and everything else going down even if they regulate they've gone down from where they were the pay per view numbers have been steady. So he has a if we were going to believe that the reported the reported pay per view numbers. So if we believe that's true that's a pretty large audience that's willing to pay for A.E.W. content and he has Ring of Honor content. Does he have the A.E.W. catalog. How does that work. Because if they were a 10% partner less than 10% 9% going back to the beginning on TV in 2019. I mean again how does that work. Well I can believe that you asked is there a way that the cons could buy out their partners. I definitely believe that if the the tell on the television network side they've got an out clause. I don't see any way that not just a wrestling show but anything else that the network wouldn't be able to get out of something. The question is whether the cons had the leverage to have an out clause as well like we can buy a TV. To have an out clause as well like we can buy you out or whatever or are they going to have to pay a 9% of any. You know monetary gain on this shit till the end of time who the fuck knows. But it's going to be it's going to be awful daggum complicated. With the entity that is now Warner Brothers Discovery of the streaming in the networks and the all the things you mentioned. To be able to keep this thing together coherently in the next couple of years with new owners who may be wanting to cut expenses and cut costs because they've overextended themselves. And at the same time figure out how to you know Tony how to deliver all his shows. So Jesus Christ. I don't I don't know I think they don't need to be underperforming here in the next 12 to 18 months do they. They don't need they've never needed to underperform sometimes they just can't help themselves. You know again I always go back to the same thing I want to root for a W I want to root for an alternative to the WWE system the WWE way of doing things the WWE content. But like you know they got to help to like you got to you got to give me some good shows you got to give me some good angles you got to give me some good promos you got to stop. I'm not booking the same things over and over again. And for everyone who says that oh you don't complain about WWE WWE is doing it too. I'm sick of four ways I'm sick of three ways I'm sick of number one contender challenger matcher not challenger eliminator matches all this shit that's superfluous. Just give me a good American wrestling show and a W like it could be that if you know Tony's mind was swapped out like Shabata style or something. But it's just it's Tony's it's Tony's personal wrestling fantasy world and sometimes it'll be something you like and most of the time it'll be disappointing because he does he could fight back against WWE so much right now and he's not capable of doing it. AEW as a company with the right leadership could do something but Tony's not the guy to fight back against anything happening and make it better and grow AEW by doing that again. If they've got 140,000 people paying $60 or $50 whatever it is for a pay per view on average one every what six weeks. You mean to tell me they wouldn't pay $15 a month for an AEW streaming service if those numbers are real or 20 and you get the pay per views. So I mean I think maybe that's the way we need to start thinking about things is what's AEW's life after Warner Brothers. If they don't have look at the way he spends money look at the size of his roster and that almost nobody ever works but everybody gets paid look at the they've cut down on the size of the buildings but still the production and etc. If he's not getting a hundred something million dollars from some sucker network then yeah I'm sure that you know he get all those people to pay $15 a month and that might pay for catering. And I'm looking at talent at legitimate talent there is none to come who is going to go there to come to AEW to make again the game changer they always talk about that never changed the game they're still playing the same game but in the past they have they brought punk in and then did some business but they were not going to come to the game. They brought other Osprey they eventually make all of them one of the boys or they get hurt and go away but who's going to debut at this point Tony still thinks that the I got news for you. Anybody that would put Mike's speedball Bailey on a fucking wrestling program needs to be lined up against the wall and given a blindfolded last cigarette. If you want to grow your audience to it gets just so embarrassing the talent that he the in quotation marks that he puts on the air that is in the level darlings with the goofy gimmicks or the minute size or whatever. But there is no difference making money drawing game changing. Ratings changing talent out there to be had that is not under contract to the other company. And do you think at this point when you can't even say with certainty that the television platform that they're on is going to exist in two years. Then any top WWE guys that could make a difference are going to go there even just for the for the money. That's the big now you're fucking around with shit am I jumping on a boat with a hole in it. So we're stuck looking at the same fucking people that Tony has been booking for the last two years for the next two years. Well you know Jim on the topic of A.W. booking. It was an interesting thing a bunch of listeners started sending us I was going to say before the drive through but it fits here. Alvarez and Meltzer were kind of going at it again a little bit on Twitter this time in writing not a certainly audio but apparently this audio. It comes down to the discussion around the Tony Khan booking philosophy although it's done in other places. Tony truly believes that he could bring in anyone for example let's use a name like Mark Briscoe and beat them endlessly on TV. Even though fans are kind of into them just beat them. And if they're competitive and the match goes a while and it's a good high quality work rate match the fans won't mind that the person lost it won't affect them when they get a push before we go to anything else problems with this theory. Well it won't affect their push because Tony is the one that's going to give a push it just affects whether the push works because it ain't it ain't going to once you've established somebody. As a fucking loser then you've established somebody as a fucking loser. And yes you can the one two three kid deal comes to mind and everybody says oh what about everybody forgets he'd only been there like a couple of weeks just long enough to show up and people recognize him face stared at him for a second. And then beat fucking razor Ramon it wasn't like he'd been doing jobs there for the past three years. The fans take to especially the regular fan and not just these fucking people that know who. Mitsue Eric howler wrestled in fucking Gleat last week. When you put somebody in the ring with a with another person that's established in that promotion. How they interact with that person indicates how the new guy is is to be taken. If he's putting the ring with a main event guy and they have a competitive match whether he wins or loses he's a. Considered a main event guy. But if he if he then does that another five times and loses every one that know that he's just a guy that's here to get beat. If he wrestles a job guy and he's competitive with the job guy for 10 minutes even if he wins OK then he's the toughest job guy. There's levels to this that's why I've said before that the Midnight Express and TV matches even had. Different comebacks for different level of competition on television. The straight job guys would get two or three punches they wouldn't take a bump for and they'd reverse of fucking shoot off and cut them off. Or the young fiery baby face job guys that had a little bit to him could actually give him a backdrop before they cut him off. And the regular fucking full time roster guys would get a comeback in the Rocker Roll Express. You can't just have guys cold that nobody knows or that has not been seen in that atmosphere. Go out there have 15 minute long competitive matches but lose every one of them for months and what you've got is a job guy. It's just. Well let's hear a little bit and then I'll read you what was said or what was that type I should say but here's Meltzer and Alvarez on Wrestling Observer Radio. Discussing and this may not be the best example to make you happy but. Discussing how swerve and Samoa Joe beat the members of Jet Speed. Speedball Mike Bailey and the talented Kevin Knight on Dynamite this past week. Let's hear a little bit of this. Let me know what you think. Nobody ever goes anywhere. These guys just won the Trio's titles and five days later they're both in singles matches just doing the job. He wants to book competitive matches. So when you're booking swerve and those guys you got your day he wanted to beat guys that that were good. So those are the guys that were the guys who just won the Trio's titles. That's probably why they were chosen because they just won the Trio's titles. They were all just won a big match. That's kind of how let me stop it for a moment here again to the argument that Dave endlessly defends Tony's booking maybe because he's participating in the the idea. Who knows. Yes the brainstorming. The workshopping. But let's go back to this. Everyone books now. I know and I don't like it because nobody goes anywhere. They're just right back where they were when it's all said and done. That's where they that's that's their level. They're not going to. I mean the idea is that you look good against the top guys and you end up like Kyle Fletcher. That's the goal. OK so it's. All right let's stop it there because we brought up Mark Briscoe before it is another great example. Kyle Fletcher who everyone universally agrees has the look has talent could go somewhere has done a shit ton of jobs on a WTV. Yes and who exactly is he mad at right now off top of your head. Kyle Fletcher who's his. Yes who's his number one enemy in the world. The person who told him the sign. No I guess he's a little peeved maybe a callous that was never followed up on wasn't he lost the content of the classic as the screwdriver wasn't there. Have we seen him again. The point is all they do is send him out there to have good matches. He has no long running baby face nemesis. He has no program. He has no goddamn rivalry. He just ended he's been getting the shit kicked out of him and he's fucking matches including by that washed up Japanese fucking sarcophagus. Let's go back to Dave and Brian discussing the A.W. booking philosophy. Or more Kyle Fletcher and Mark Briscoe and Jungle Boy. Jungle Boy. One of them is significantly higher than they were when they came in. But I don't think Jungle Boy is any higher than he's been on the card in the last five years. I mean Mark Briscoe a little bit. Mark Briscoe is definitely higher. He's a little higher. Yeah Kevin Knight is certainly higher. Kevin Knight's a little higher. I can tell you who's higher Dave. I can tell you he's as high as a kite right now. I'm high too high to cope. I'm high on wrestling and had no go. There's a lot of guys that you know it's it's a it's a slow process. But yeah what do you expect Mike Bailey to beat Samoa Joe and Samoa Joe is getting ready to challenge for the title. No but if I'm booking that I'm not. I'll stop for you. I expect if you goddamn booked that match to have Samoa Joe kick the shit out of that fucking little whitewashed midget in five minutes and beat him. It's what I expect. And which we'll get into when we talk about the show is why I'm not going to belabor it here. But the point is if Dave is saying are these people better off. Are they higher on the card than they were a year ago maybe because that's where Tony writes their name. But as far as are they actually legitimately stars that make a difference. The answer in most cases is no. Putting it in a match where he's going to lose in a tag team title so he's he's got a little bit more credibility so he can lose. Why not. I mean I thought I thought that this was really good because it put them in big matches. They didn't win them but they've got titles. I mean that's one of the things that when you got tag team champions everyone there is titles that can't even be an argument. Yes. If there's six titles in the company that's one thing but if there's 25 titles in the company that doesn't help. And also if a guy is part of the six man tag team champions why is he having a singles match on tickets Tony wants to see it. Very often you put him in matches against I know it's used to do this all the time and all we do is complain about it. No no no no no no no. Why is this guy beating the tag team champions. Yes it was one on two. No no no no no no no no with Vince what it was would be the the idea that the tag team champions would lose to two single stars. And be squashed very often to show that tag team champions meant nothing. Let me stop it there. I remember triple H beating the tag team champions single handedly so Vince. Yes yes. The best example to use but this happened and then it continued apparently on Twitter because I have a few things here but I get to the big one. Someone else brought it up and Alvarez was going back and forth with him and he wrote fact is with only a few exceptions. Everyone remains in the exact same place on the card. They've been for years. Whether you like the talent there or not Jim do you agree with that statement that there's very little mobility everyone's kind of exactly where they were when they first came in. Well yes as I said sometimes there'll be a variance of Tony moves the names in different places but everybody's. There's no clear breakout star that was just a shrub a year ago or whatever period ago and now is just setting the world on fire with drawing ratings or box office or fucking whatever. It's what we all the game changers that come in have a shelf life where they're hot for a limited period of time before Tony makes them another just one of the boys and then an osprey is going to be refreshed because he had to go have surgery. So he's off for months and months. The only time somebody really it gets a second lease on life MJF he was gone long enough they missed him. But then everybody that comes back settles into the same pattern of. Well there ain't really that many interesting people for me to interact with and Tony's booking sucks and here we are. So that's the deal and two of the things that traditionally could be used to change the way someone is seen or elevate them a title win or putting them with a heal manager. Don't mean anything because they have a heal manager one guy is a stable of 20 people. The other guy manages the tag team champions and is a comedy figure so they have no heal managers that are. Seen as something that could elevate someone and they have too many titles they keep creating more titles the titles don't mean anything. By the way how long you think it's going to be for Stokely gets out of the wheelchair and all the announcers have to have a hernia going out he can walk. It was it was a work all along. Well again Brian Alvarez said everyone remains in the exact same place on the card they've been for years and Dave Meltzer replied yep. Which is one of his favorite condos and the answers yep everyone except Bandito Ricochet Gates of Agony Brody King Hatches arrow. Hatches arrow. Clon Fletcher Tekecha night Bailey O'Reilly swerve Brisco Willow Windsor Cameron Storm and Shafir Jesus Christ. So Dave thinks all of those people are better off today and before they hit Tony's booking that somehow all of them have been elevated far beyond where they've been. Constantly consistently almost the entire time you could maybe argue that about Tony Storm although I would argue they've taken 10 steps back because the fans are not popping the same way and now she's just in a tag team and getting her ass kicked every time you see her. Yeah. But do you think that this booking philosophy has helped the likes of Clon. By the way I got a problem with that Clon to Ken Heron just died. Long time wrestling fan Clon in the newsletters K. L O N. This is C. L O N. Well I thought it was Clone. Without having any wouldn't it. Well I who knows with these people. Gravity fucking fell through so now he has clones. See what I did there. But again I say that yes Tony can write their names down in a higher up position on the card and it matters it has a negligible to zero impact on who watched the show that night or who bought a ticket to the thing or who bought the pay per viewer whatever. So they could be higher on the card but is anybody more over or better off or has changed the trajectory of AWS business. No. No it's just a bunch of people doing the same shit that either they or other people in their spot have been doing over and over for years now. Indie wrestling. Indie wrestling. And it's what he knows and it's what he likes and. That's all it's ever gonna fucking be unfortunately regardless of who they come in or who they bring in. Because then they're gonna have to fucking work in a goddamn bowl full of pudding the same as everybody else does. Well I guess that was a good precursor to the AWS Dynamite Review a look at the ownership and the booking of AWS. 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Tony Chavani opens up in the ring right away they introduce MJF and out he comes they're going for the okay let's hook them with MJF's linguistic ability linguistic abilities is the word I'm trying to get out there. And again there is Tony I think he's two years older than me. So here there is a 65 year old man 66 in a lime green suit with green and white tennis shoes. And. His hair has been so many different shades of colors since he started this program that. I think he's going backwards now he's going back into the fucking. Charlotte baseball days back in the 80s. But. They did what I always want them to do which is have the announcer take control of the interview and hold the microphone for the. Star and then. Did you notice Tony needed both hands to hold the microphone up for MJF I did notice that yes. Like a New York comedian job like a New York comedian. Yeah. I'm going to go back to the beginning of the program. I did notice that yes. Like a New York comedian job like a New York comedian. I have done this job many times and I will admit it does get a little fucking challenging everyone so I would do it a five minute interview. To hold the microphone in the right place for one thing Tony's on the wrong side. If you're going to hold a microphone in your right hand stand on the right of the fucking guy and stand sideways to make yourself small. And reach right across and stick it in front of his mouth and that way you're not in front of you. If you're on the other side of course you can't hold your fucking arm out like that but it looks stupid and unnatural anyway. And it's easier to follow the guy if you're on the right hand side but nevertheless. I think it's because Tony is so old he's starting to look like James Lipton. With the multicolored and aged hair in the whole nine yards. So. MJF cut a regular wrestling promo. Imagine that and very well refreshing it was. He put himself over and knocked everybody else. But that's not a surprise. That's why we want to see MJF see him talk. And he wasn't trying too hard like remember when he got into that rut a while back of just trying to make the people hate him even though he was the most interesting thing on the show. And he would just scream at them and just just go way over the top. He's not doing any more he's just being his wise ass self. I don't know am I being too complimentary here. Every time you're a complimentary MJF people think you're being too complimentary but no I thought he was just doing you know the kind of classic MJF stuff here. Well and that's and that's better for him. But then here comes Brody King. And Brody King comes out in a windbreaker and jeans and he looks like. You know the fat guy at the fucking. Heavy metal concert on the outskirts of town. I don't know how to describe it any other way and Tony gets out of the ring now. He gives MJF the microphone and he gets out like he's been in a car wreck. I don't know maybe he's got a body cast on underneath the suit. Brody King's promo wasn't bad by these standards but it's still a good one. Brody King's promo wasn't bad by these standards but it's still kind of a rehearsed overly dramatic indie style promo. And he puts a growl in it. It's not. It still doesn't flow but he challenged him Jeff for a match. Oh let me think about it. No. And he cut the promo on Brody King says you need to beat some some top guys. Imagine that what we were saying. You need to beat some people to wrestle the main event guys and etc. And when we were talking about booking it's an amazing revelation to some of these people on the end. They used to book the indie shows depending on which guy was going to sell the most tickets to his friends and family. But anyway and then Brody bowed up on him and MJF got scared and bailed out and. It's not going to mean anything but MJF needs to start beating people. Especially as I said because he was minimized so much in that four way abortion where he won the title that it wasn't like he really won anything so he needs to beat some people. Going forward so Brody King's good place start I guess. I don't know what you think. I did not like Brody King's promo at all. And I would think that he's the kind of guy that could use a manager building up this big giant guy. But he's a baby face so obviously that wouldn't work and the heal managers they're awful so that wouldn't work either. It's a different match for MJF. And I'm kind of interested in seeing it and I'm sure it will probably be the best Brody King match will ever see. It'll be much better than MJF and Bandito was as we mentioned before. Well we shall see. I don't know if it'll be as good as Bandito versus that fan and CMLO got in the ring but I just thought he was a I was underwhelmed by the promo. Well I didn't expect him to just shit the bed completely so I get because he just memorized something and did it. I didn't think it was too bad. And again minor thing at this point because it's almost every time but I kind of want to see something like this and as a security guard or a fucking agent or someone running out there with him and standing between them. Because there was nothing stopping either one of these guys from doing anything. Well look we pretty much rolled over and had to accept that these days. I don't accept it. I mean I guess that's the problem. You will not stand for that. Nor will I sit. I'm not going to. I won't do anything. I'm not going to sit here and stand for that. All right anyway so then we get a match and it is as we were talking about this is one that started leading to the ultimate divorce and break up who's going to get custody of the show between Alvarez and Uncle Dave. Samoa Joe versus Hong Kong Fui. And I. It's ridiculous. Why are they trying to make this milky midget. If you put this. Grinning goof in a ring in the home of Louisiana 1984 the fans would have drug him out and just kick the shit out of him on the floor. And to make this. Little fellow. Competitive with Samoa Joe. D value Samoa Joe who's one of the only guys they've got people can buy is halfway. Legitimate badass. So. I fast forwarded the match on fast forward it looked like spitball was kicking the shit out of Joe. But then after about 10 minutes here came Shippupi out. Right. And although they're getting to the finish here. And. Shippupi on the floor gives spitball like three different moves in a row and enrolled him in the ring and the match continued. I was like what the fuck why do you have an intermission intermission I wish there'd been intermission. Why do you have interference in the middle of the fucking match. It is this with this little fucking goof. This detestable dweeb. And then they went five minutes more and after Joe's been doing everything he can do for 10 minutes and one of his henchmen came out and blindsided the guy with three big moves. Bailey made a comeback. And what is wrong with these people. And then Bailey goes to the turnbuckle and hook distracts him and Joe takes the referee away and Bailey did a back flip off the turnbuckles and landed on his feet for no reason. He is just like I'm going to flip off the ropes and land in the ring. And then he had any sold his knee. And then he hit hook and schoolboy Joe and got a two count. And then Joe's slept to sleep around him and Bailey rolled him up. We got another two count. And then Bailey went to the top. And Shippupi was back and interfered again and then Joe caught him with the muscle buster. It took Samoa Joe and two other men 15 minutes to beat this five foot tall 150 pound pussy. What is this is it's this is a fucking psychedelic drug fucking booking method here. Now how can you justify any of that. I wouldn't. I think they would by saying their fans have grown to like speedball. That's stupid haircut. You spent so much time putting down his size and everything else. You don't even focus on that ridiculous haircut. He did a promo and they were close up on his face and I started laughing about that. But he's there. You know he's there grizzly. He's there. He's there new pockets. He's there. He's there. He's there new pockets. I guess you could say that. And it is ridiculous. And Samoa Joe is supposed to be in the world title picture. He needs help to beat speedball Bailey. And by the way it's not even about speedball Bailey. He probably shouldn't need help to beat anyone right now if he's in the world title picture. Let alone speedball Bailey. So then we got to remember when everybody was saying well Moxley's turned baby face. But what's going to happen with the death writers are still heels and they have. No they just came on over I guess. Because then the next thing they do is here comes Moxley and Garcia and useless and Marita Schaefer. And they come out into the arena and we're going to have a street fight. And suddenly here comes Lance Archer and. And they did a jump start on the ramp and started fighting around the arena. But it's a street fight. But between who and how many I didn't readily know. But then Rocky Romero was out there so it was a six man. And they did the indie play fighting in the stands and around the arena. And Garcia looked like a stage hand that just went into the arena. And then they did a jump start on the ramp and started fighting around the arena. And Garcia looked like a stage hand that just wandered in and took his shirt off. And it went forever. The garbage can the wandering around the sloppy work the. Six way everything they the table in the ring I mean you could just. If you said just write down 12 things that are going to happen in a street fight in a W. You'd write these things down. And then Archer put Dick the Boozer through a table. But that wasn't it. And then. Wheeler and Garcia beat up Archer and Moxley brought out the barbed wire board with the barbed wire wrapped around it and broken glass chunks. Sitting on top of it. And they worked fake spots teasing bumping into that. And then Archer choked slam Moxley on his own goddamn shit. So. Now that Moxley is a baby face it's especially so much better because. I know that every baby face that's ever drawn money and meant something. In a history of wrestling whenever he brought out his gimmick the first thing that he'll did was fucking. Use it on him. He didn't even look like a complete fucking idiot. And that was a two count. So at that point when. The baby face got slammed into his own fucking shrapnel. For a two count and we were 15 minutes already and I was. Tired of this. I was done with this. I don't know what they did afterwards. It was actually more embarrassing than trying to watch. Or watching Bailey try to wrestle is what I'm saying to you. What did what did happen? I think you remember. Well I think Bailey's really good every time I see her wrestle. I mean I usually. I'm talking about the other Bailey the allegedly male Bailey. Have we got the results back on that DNA. I think WWE Bailey is better than speedball Mike Bailey. Let me just say that. She's very talented wrestler actually. What do I think about this street fight between the death riders and the callous family. And it wasn't even like. Main event callous family. It was like the. You sometimes see them on TV members. Lance Archer's like here and there. And we know that he's there. You knew Rocky Romero was going to eat the fucking fall. Because he never has won a match ever. He's barely there. It's just like who's that little guy in the fucking callous group. He's a foot shorter than fucking Lance Archer. And then of course one of the generic Luchadors that they're very fond of. They just. Do you think. You know. You know. Do you think that that they are beating Rocky Romero like this because then it'll build the tension because. Every time from now on people be thinking why he's got to win sometime just by fucking odds and it'll build that tension. No I don't think there'll ever be any tension. And I don't think there's really much. Desire for this right now. I mean I even think. Taking the work of Moxley. And the mind of Moxley and the promos of Moxley and the friends of Moxley out of the equation. And just looking at it as a widgets. I don't know now's the time to do death riders versus callous family. I don't think it's been built up well enough yet. Like. If you were going to do something with two heel stables again widgets but two heel stables. Going at it. That should be a big thing that like the midnight express in the horseman you kind of week by week you're getting ready for you're getting ready for it. Hopefully it happens in this case they other guys don't go to WWF or anything. But it's just all of a sudden they're having this match a street fight. Has the feud been built up well enough yet. Of course not. No I mean at least unfortunately. We know who's in the death riders because we've been looking at it for a long time. For the past year and a half nonstop doing the same goddamn thing every week. But the fallow family is this nebulous group of people it just runs back and forth and sometimes they're there and sometimes they're not there's so many of you can't keep track and. And remember every once in a while somebody just asked out and don says OK. Remember Osprey inexplicably came in and joined the most popular son of a bitch they've signed since the guy that gives out fucking free donuts. And he was in the heel group and then when they realized they made a mistake he just I'd like to leave OK. I don't. Speaking of people that need to leave. FTR. I mean they're there now might as well stay there now. The WWE did nothing. Did nothing to diminish their in ring capabilities and play to their weaknesses and had their strengths. Nearly to compare. With what they had to go through here at this company so they might as well stay. If I were them I'd write down the code to Shopify because they're unless they can retire on whatever they're on right now they need to pack it up at this point. So they almost got that shit kicked out of them by Alec Price and Jordan Oliver. I was just waiting to see if you would say oh my gosh they were there. You know Brian before you kill this because I could see where this is going. I thought it was a good match. In a sense I was trying to be hopeful because I'm not too familiar with the team of Price and Oliver. Those are NXT names if I ever heard any. I was about to say can we play porn star or wrestler. They're about to do with the Hobbes price and Jordan Oliver. They're about to screw Hobbes and give him a stupid name just watch. But it was a good match. I almost felt oh OK they're trying to make a new team because clearly no one wants to see FTR against any of the other teams in AEW right now. Maybe they're going to make a new young babyface team and OK this is an interesting way to try to do it. They didn't even do that. But again maybe they did because Tony's philosophy is if you lose you're on the path to a good push. This was five minutes bell to bell. And FTR had the opportunity to go out and show that they're still fucking to be taken seriously. But because not only are they apparently so nice or potentially one of these young men is their illegitimate son. Or they just have said fuck it we're just going to make every other tag team in the world look like a million dollars and show that they're still going to be taken seriously. That's our our talent and but here's the problem. They look like a million dollars dirty green and wrinkled. Both of these guys could use Cheerios for hula hoops as the king used to say. If they got the same look as every other indie guy the same body weight same haircut same work style. And instead of FTR was going to win this match. But instead of giving each one of them a nice little shiny spot get a little heat get them to come back and beat them convincingly. They went a hundred miles an hour and FTR had him kick the shit out of themselves even though they're built like two flash waters and greener than pepper trees. For the whole goddamn match. They are stuck on this. Oh we're gonna have a great match with these guys and really you know let them shine get yourself over back over. You've totally lost it. They used to scream and stand up when they heard that fucking FTR music. Now they fart and stay in their chair. Stokely on color adds nothing because him and the wheelchair is just comedic because nobody gives shit or believes it anyway. The two baby faces look like Randy Hales and his twin brother doing high spots to be honest with you. But they the shit was sloppy because they had to do everything they knew in the space of five minutes. And they the kids even foiled the superplex and splash off the top. And then finally five minutes in FTR hit the shatter machine out of nowhere. But this was horrible for FTR because the other guys angle mean anything if you had a beat cancer to begin with. And FTR had an opportunity to at least showcase themselves and didn't do it. That's my thought. I don't have too much to add to this. I think the tag team division is dead right now and it is what it is. I know I used to be really excited for FTR matches and again I didn't mind this match. I thought it was OK. But you said it. They've kind of lost all their steam on a five minute match with two guys that the audience has never seen before. If they're athletic young baby faces and you want to give them a spot or two that's fine. I used to lay out stuff in OVW for the guys to explain to them how they should work with each other based on the positions they were at on the roster and in a pecking order. And I would say to if I was laying out to FTR OK. Get your first baby face into a spot where he shines. Drop down hip toss leap frog tackle whatever let him do his shit. Fucking god damn backup tag your fucking partner the second heel gets in fucking lock up into baby faces do a snazzy double spot. Where they make the tag and they double hip toss or double backdrop the guy the other guy feeds in double do him to whatever you just did the referees putting one of the illegal baby face out the legal baby face grabs a headlock. The heels do the heat spot behind the referees back. Now you've got two minutes two minutes and a half of heat on the fucking guy letting fight and sell maybe give him a hope spot. And then finally work a deal where the heels make a mistake rather than the baby face they've been kicking a shit out of overcome them. And that baby face then makes the hot tag to his fresh partner who gets a bit of a comeback. Depending on what level he is in the pecking order and then they heal somewhere or another with a little cheating aspect just enough to get some. God damn heat but not bury the referee double team the fucking guy and beat him five minutes boom there you go. Everybody looks halfway decent and like where they're supposed to be. Jesus fucking Christ. Oh boy what about Omega and Alexander. Can you believe that Kenny Omega let Josh Alexander pick him up and at Fireman's Care Hill on the top turn by the same thing he fucking broke his partner Abushi in half with. He let him pick him up in the same position did you see that I did I actually forgot that was him in the match with Abushi. Yes it's the same thing he was going to do when Abushi dead weighted him and they just went over backwards. Anyway it was Josh Alexander and our friend Twinkle toes and I would critique the match except what the fuck. Kenny's coming down the aisle Alexander jumps him in the hallway. The six man tag just did that. Jump start in the entries entryway. So Alexander beat Kenny up on the floor pulled up the floor pad but Kenny fought back and did a back flip off the rail and a dive to the floor. And then they rolled in the ring and the referee rang the bell start to match what. When did they start making up these rules where they can fight for 20 minutes out in a parking lot and as long as they get to the ring they can ring the bell and start to match. It's definitely happened a few times recently. Oh yeah that happens every week now. It was last week it was pack against Darby right. Same thing. Yes I really thought Josh Alexander was going to win this one didn't you. I didn't care. Good when they started the match Kenny the baby face who got jumped in the entrance way was not only up and fine but he was in control. So what did they accomplish. If they did just walk to the ring and fucking started the match the baby face would have been in control. What. So then we got to see Kenny with the pointing and the cheek puffing and the ridiculous body language and the walking in circles and the time on the floor and the overly dramatic. Stagy. Movements and then about 15 minutes later he hit the one wing fairy 123. And then they let him talk again. And nobody in the Don Fallis family can beat him. And he breathlessly stated and then. He again. Why. Does he do the. The sign off that he does which is the most douche baggish and just nonsensical and he's not just a douche bag. And. Unintimidating possible. I'd like to wish you good night to do. He's blowing kisses. Farewell and bang. And the only thing he does with the with the gun crisis in this country. He goes from bidding a do and blowing kisses to shooting guns at people. What does this gibberish mean and why does he keep doing it. Well it's awful. It's pretentious nonsense and I think it's because when him and the Bucks were doing all their super douche baggery in Japan and everywhere else and we were being told that they're the best and you're out of touch if you don't agree with it. This is the kind of thing they were doing over in Japan to make themselves laugh at the end of the night for the fans that didn't speak English they would do this crap. It's awful. Well Kenny Omega's instincts as a talker are amongst the worst in wrestling history. Now there are some fans who believe his pretentiousness but it just comes across weird I think to most people. And it's the worst. It's the worst of all the catchphrase in wrestling. That's the worst one his sign off there. Yeah. We ask because it's just ridiculous on many levels. And you were hold on I'm going to come up with a another way of saying I'm looking up weird weird in the American Heritage Dictionary third edition to see if we can come up with some kind of. Well W.E.A. W.E.I. Oh it's so dark because the snow is about to blow in that it's keeping me far here we go weird of or suggestive of the supernatural unearthly of an odd or unusual character strange. There we go. Well speaking of strange people the girls tag team match was Penelope Pitstop and Megan brain against Tony Storm and Mina melons and they did a jump start for a way to begin. So break time at the gold club. Was anyone injured. Oh I didn't watch this match I didn't. Well good then we can move on. I'm sick of Tony Storm I'm completely 100% sick sick at the stick stick. I'm completely 100% sick of her and Mina Sharik how I may have a fine bosom but I don't need to see her in the ring anymore either. I think Megan Bain has something but I can't keep saying that over and over it's but I'm telling you they got they got drugs that'll cure anything these days. So it doesn't matter don't write her off. And then finally our main event swerve Strickland versus Kevin Knight you know the one that I feel the worst for I think in this whole situation is Kevin Knight because he's got potential. He's kind of talented. He's stuck with this ridiculous garden gnome as a tag team partner. And he's the one of the team that they beat more often when they beat that team it's him they beat rather than the fucking dwarf. So anyway the point is here it's two baby faces so why why have this match it's two baby faces you're gonna and you swerves over so you're just going to hurt the other one because you're going to get hurt. You're going to beat him with another baby face that you know he's it's but now at the same point swerve is so stupid. He's the further and further I see him the more I think he's just an idiot because remember what I said about when you have a baby face versus baby face match. They should they can still try to win but they shouldn't go out of character they shouldn't try to maim the other guy or fight dirty or cheat to win or whatever because that's not something they would do swerve at one point in this thing. Pal drove Kevin Knight on top of the barricade and then gotten a ring and sat down and tried to win by count out. What a fucking baby face. Not only does he try to break the guy's neck but anyone even roll him in the ring and pin him. He gets in the ring and sits there and that county about referee. What a fucking evil. But then nevertheless after swerve fourth did that to him and then 450 splashed him and then dragon sleeper team. Kevin Knight fought back up to his feet. And then they got to the top rope and they carefully balanced on the top rope for about 20 seconds. Try not to move and swerves stood stock still staring away from Kevin Knight so that Kevin Knight could jump up and Hurricane Ron him. And then he hit a coast coast drop kick and a frog splash and covered him and swerve got to the ropes. And I say you know what I'm fucking done with this is goddamn ridiculous and I just I quit. Do you blame me for quitting. No he's another person I've become really sick of his swerve and you know it feels like he has the worst instincts. And he's fortunate that he's got an expression that's over and he could say anything. He talks to you ever if you ever listen to him on the mic he can't do a promo he's got a voice so it almost sounds good. But he could just be like and I'll tell you another thing Legos and ketchup together make snow whose house and they'll just yell. He just says bullshit and then he ends it with whose house I just knocked over a bunch of shit. He says his house are you wrecking your house. I'm wrecking my house but that's it. And then you talk to people in the company they'll they'll kind of on the phone you could tell what someone's rolling their eyes about someone's ideas and then it almost always goes to and his cousin's the biggest stooge in the company. He's the one leaking everything to the newsletter every single time but no I don't blame you. I think swerve is a guy that a lot of the fans like and they're into his stuff but when I really think about it I hate every single thing I've seen with him in a w I feel like he's got like a star presence. It's just his promo suck and I hate his matches and I hate his instincts and I hated the Adam Page program and I've hated just about everything he's done since him and Rick Ross called Keith Lee a big motherfucker. That was good. He's just he's the most overrated wrestler probably at AEW and that says something because I think moxley's the worst wrestler on the planet but swerve is the most overrated I think by far. See that's the thing you just mentioned swerve has enough attributes that if he was being produced and had some structure around him you could accentuate the strengths and eliminate the negatives instead of the other way around. But you can't yet yet yet can't because they he totally just let some all do he thinks they're all artists that nobody ever needed guidance that you know everybody just always just let them do what they want to do because they're the wrestlers well god damn. There's a reason why that that was a rule in the old days yeah there's guys in the main event drawing all the money what would they like to do for their finish but the guys on first tell them do 10 minutes Broadway and don't fuck up. It anyway. Anyway. Well that was not was I talking or were you talking well this is your show and that was I should have more dead about how awful swerve is that's a. I'm pretty much I think we've said it. You reminded him about all the Arcadian Vanguard Network shows this week while there's no end in you. We certainly did and of course in just a few days the next episode of the drive through and of course the experience right behind that a lot of big things happening Saturday night's main event the Royal Rumble 30s in their top wrestlers in the 30s in 84 every time I can't say but a lot of big old wrestlers all kinds of things going on but folks were done here for now sorry we we kept you to binge your ear this long but we just get all upset about these things we'll see you back on the drive through the next week here on the experience and until then thank you fuck you bye bye and good day everyone.