Healing Without Needles: The Benefits of Topical Stem Cell Therapy

This is Women Road Warriors with Shelly Johnson and Cassie Ticcaro from the corporate office to the cab of a truck. They're here to inspire and empower women in all professions. So gear down, sit back and enjoy. Welcome. We're an award-winning show dedicated to empowering women in every profession through inspiring stories and expert insights. No topics off limits on our show. We Power Women on the Road to Success with expert and celebrity interviews and information you need. I'm Shelly. And I'm Cassie. Stem cell therapy is all the rage today, but there's still a great deal of confusion about it. What many people may not know is to reap the benefits of this regenerative treatment. Invasive injections are not necessary. Dr. Tommy Rhee is a pioneer in regenerative medicine and promotes non-invasive stem cell therapy. His expertise spans many years. He's treated pro-athletes like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, UCLA athletes and even the US Navy. His latest book, The Future of Regenerative Medicine, unlocking the potential of topical stem cell therapy, talks about how topical stem cell applications are reshaping healing and longevity. Dr. Rhee has been a practicing chiropractor since 2006 and served as the official team chiropractor of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for three years. He developed Regen, which is a safer stem cell alternative that doesn't use live cells or invasive procedures. Dr. Rhee has pioneered and was the first master provider of art or active release techniques in 2008, the first to bring exercise with oxygen therapy or EWAT in 2012, whole body cryotherapy in 2015, piezo shockwave therapy in 2016 and cryofox in 2018. All of these regenerative techniques can benefit women as well as men and Kathy and I were extremely interested. So we invited Dr. Rhee on the show. We definitely want to know what all of this is. Welcome Dr. Rhee, thank you for being with us. Thank you very much. I really appreciate this opportunity to talk to you and your audience. Yeah, this is great. Yes, absolutely. Oh my gosh, Dr. Rhee, you are an extraordinaire in the field of regenerative medicine and you cover a lot of areas. If you could maybe give us a brief background about yourself and what drew you to these therapies that I personally have never heard of. Yeah, so I started off, I'm a sports chiropractor, so I started out at UCLA and working with the top collegiate athletes and as they evolve into professional top athletes, you see their offseason training on season training and you see how they recuperate or how they protect themselves for like prehab stuff. So as you see these athletes go into that world of preventative and just really how to really take care of themselves, you get introduced into this regenerative world. So I was first involved with this regenerative world back in 2007, 2006 around there and pro-lo therapy was the current stuff that was out there which is basically they inject like if you had like an injury in your elbow, they'll inject this saline slash sugar water into your body, into that damaged area and your body will act as if that's like an antigenial creates like an antibody and creates like scar tissue or rebuilding material. So that's a pro-lo therapy world then involved to what they call the PRP, we heard of that and then now it goes into the world stem cell where they take it from your own body and they take out the thing called the mesoconinous stem cells and then they inject that damaged tissue and then now you get the tissue from a donor site from the biblical core called a warton's jelly and you take out the mesoconinous stem cells and then you inject the damaged tissue again and now it's into the world of topical application with the same donor site from the biblical core the warton's jelly and it's a topical application that has a transdermal agent and pulls it through the three layers of skin into the damaged tissue. So now you will have that kind of like the risk factor of like injections right for infection, in time a compromised tissue you made damage and more importantly the cost. So that's the world that I got into here. Pretty amazing stuff and yeah anytime you have injections and so forth I would imagine with the stem cell injections it doesn't really stay at the injection site or does it affect the entire body? Yeah, so there's a primary and a secondary right so you when you inject or when you apply any type of regenerative properties in the area there are some vessels there that it will actually get into the vessels of venous or arterial flow and they'll systemically go through the body in addition to target the existing tissue that you're trying to heal. So yeah that's kind of both. And stem cell injections gosh they're pretty expensive I mean you can spend thousands and thousands of dollars right? Yeah I mean I think the going rate now is between 4500 to 15 thousand dollars per injection site. Yeah it's very expensive because I mean yeah you think about the expenses of the actual I mean the material itself you know it's costly then you talk about the actual provider and then you have to have a safe room and you have to do a lot of prep and then it's just you know one after the other like expenses you have to apply on to that expense whereas if you regenerate it's just a topical application that you can apply at home. And what is the typical expense associated with the topical therapy? Yeah so typical retail price of regen is approximately a thousand dollars. Oh that's a big difference. Oh yeah. Now if somebody wanted to have whole body benefits would they have to apply that everywhere or how would that work with a topical stem cell? Yeah so I'm a sports med guy so I stay specifically to an injured side but now there are the current procedure for a systemic protocol for let's say you're dealing with maybe they want to they want to try to treat like a systemic issue you may have like like maybe autoimmune issue or some type of like you know maybe an anti-aging protocol they'll do like an IV injection diluted with saline and then it will get injected through your venous system and then the neat thing about this is that there's different kind of vehicles for the systemic world. So the mine is just localized with some like maybe like some secondary they'll go to the systemic system where you see like the whole body kind of application you'll do the IB. So there's another process out there that's coming up right now it's called a nasal spray you know basically insert the applicator through your nose and inhale it. So the reason why they do that is because no matter if you're taking either the nasal or the IB when it goes through your system it collects in your lungs for 24 to 48 hours so it sits there and after that it starts actually like going back into the system and you know taking care of all the cells. Interesting okay well I know that they've done what vaccines they've looked at the nasal application for those right? Yes. Yep. Yeah remember so the top thing when you do a nasal spray if you have asthma you know those are the things you have to be concerned about if you do a nasal spray because they may irritate the capillaries in your lungs so do you want to take the other option which is the IB. Again you know talk to your provider and then find out the best pathway for that systemic treatment protocol. For those who may not be familiar what do stem cells do for us? Okay so stem cells is kind of unique in its definition like stem cells what it does is it's like the root it's like the starter of all your cells it helps you make other cells and it's like it kind of creates like a template or a beginning site to start up and work right? So we have like all types of stem cells from embryonic stem cells to adult stem cells to mesocoma stem cells there's all kinds of stem cells out there and some of these are defined by its use right? So you look at like they call a totipotent stem cell where it can make it can make a lot of other stem cells then we look at the thing is called a pluripotent stem cell where you have a limited amount of like cells they can go into and then you got a uni stem cell when it turns into one cell only so it varies but basically it's like a it's like a kick starter or the starting template for your body to reproduce or regenerate. You know it never ceases to amaze me how the miracle of the human body it is like it's just unbelievable how the depth of you know of how we function and we don't we take it for granted we don't even realize we don't most you know you don't care but when you start listening to someone like yourself it's like wow holy man you know and yeah what you're doing is absolutely phenomenal and I have one question going back to your topical cream would that help like my daughter has really bad plantar fasciitis would that help with that topical cream? Yeah yeah perfect yeah perfect example so plantar fasciitis is that fashion on the bottom part of your foot so when you have like these little muscles in the bottom if you these intrinsic muscles that help your foot kind of like you know move and they call like a like a plantar flexion kind of kind of a motion you start the like how would you say like stop using the muscle and depending on other structures like the fascia and when you don't have strong muscles it depends on keeping your foot or your arch you know up it compromises the fascia so when you start compromise the fascia you get these microtrombus when you get these microtrombus your fascia well the first thing when you see your trauma is inflammatory world that's where you hear the word itis right so then once you start getting the inflammation in the area now you're having to cascade of more occupying like fluid inflammation in addition to microtrauma and that's why you have that that pain sensitive part of the foot right at the arch at the forefoot so regen will help quickly generate so the thing with regen and and then regenerative medicine the most important thing is that you're trying to see how you can be young again and that tissue damage and when you're younger heals faster but when you get older we can't heal faster as we as if we were like in our 20s or teens so we're looking for a faster pattern of healing because when you look at the fascia of the foot you're constantly walking you're constantly using it so if I heal faster then I can get to you know walk up the next day and be able to walk but because we're aged we're having to like have more time to recover like two or three days and then if you keep on doing more trauma over and over walking well you beat up that area and you're making it that little microtrauma into almost a macrotrauma where you're you're getting more of the fascia that involved with it so that's what regenerative medicine is and when you look at someone like the 40 plus you just want to quickly regenerate ourselves back to normal because it's all about you know when you work out when you do any type of movement you do like a little microtrauma and you give yourself some time to rest and it regenerates and then you're back to square one again when you have a constant like abuse like walking or something like that well it's hard to you know rest it when you're actually like using it so we need a faster recovery and that is used by this stem cell regenerative medicine. Oh so the stem cell therapy does it return the area that it's treating to a much younger state? Pretty much not so much a younger state it just helps you recover faster or I says like you know if you have like a cut on your skin you know like a distal area like down on your shins well when we're younger that thing will heal within like a week or two and if we get older it takes weeks and weeks you know poor circulation we don't have those growth factors we just have a lot of like the our cells that we're able to like heal faster well we're starting to limit ourselves to recover or regenerate so that's why you need something that has the ability to take that tissue that's probably like dormant wake it up and then regenerate faster. That would be a gut send for so many people because chronic pain seems to be a pandemic today I mean everybody seems to have issues with all of that just watch any of the commercials that I'll do. You know what I feel that the rise of like that chronic pain because everybody knows how important activity and exercise is after 40 years old so exercise is a huge like like how would you say like a preventative type of medicine or movement to avoid like cardiovascular diseases diabetes the problem is again is that when you start doing like an exercise like let's say you're doing a walk like an hour walk well because of the repetitive movement you'll start getting those injuries now you you will break down tissues of muscle and tendon and our own body recycles and rebuilds well as we age we don't have those little adult stem cells or those little cells that can regenerate our damaged tissue to grow bigger better and stronger so now we're in that the repetitive movement of injury injury injury microtrauma where it becomes now a chronic situation so either you rest for a long period of time to recover or you speed up the healing process and again you go back into regenerative medicine 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amazon music audible you name it check us out and bookmark our podcast also don't forget to follow us on social media we're on twitter facebook instagram pinterest linkedin youtube and other sites and tell others about us we want to help as many women as possible you've probably heard all the buzz about stem cell therapy but here's the twist you don't need invasive injections to get the benefits dr. tomi re a pioneer in regenerative medicine has treated everyone from the tampa bay buccaneers the ucla women's soccer team to the us navy and he's showing us how non-invasive topical stem cell therapy is reshaping healing and longevity his new book the future of regenerative medicine unlocking the potential of topical stem cell therapy explains why this breakthrough could change the way we recover and stay strong dr. re created region a topical stem cell therapy stick around dr. re is here to tell us more about how everything works dr. re stem cell therapy makes a lot of sense in terms of injury and repetitive motion and things that people do every day it's a way to increase and maintain mobility and in to stay young actually i can't help but wonder with all the technology that we have if people aren't going to be dealing with more of these needs earlier because you've got incidents of what they call tech neck with teenagers yeah because absolutely they're leaning forward that they're looking down all the time they're texting they're looking at their device and that's not where we're supposed to have our necks no you know yeah everything that comes to biomechanics when you change your biomechanics because of you know posture or that mechanical change in the chronic you're going to stress out some ligaments and then you know the worst case scenario is when you actually get the formation of that like that that that forward head movement and then the worst scenario is that when you're stuck in that position so absolutely you need to correct that movement as much as possible and when you get to that damaged component of those ligaments well you've have to figure out how to heal that so you want to just get either more rest of recover from that injury or speed up the healing process what about um like i have a lot as a heavy equipment operator we have a lot of shoulder injuries and um wood and and the healing a lot of us are over you know 50 and i get my my one coworker had a shoulder replacement on both shoulders and she was off for almost three years now to this day she she's limited in what she can do would uh what would uh regen would would that be assist her at all yeah so this was this was the wonderful thing about a topical regenerative medicine cream region this is what's great about there's no downtime you can continue your activity while applying regen so regen is a 30 day application and then we recommend you know you can still do your activity because it was really meant for like professional athletes during the season so when you think about like you know an injection let's say you do stem cell therapy prior to you know you're doing surgery right so you want to do the most conservative approach so back then it was injectables of this stem cell so the reason the reason why you have downtime because you have a primary injury site let's say it's like when you rotate your cuff muscles in your shoulder well when if you hit in a if you hip the area with a needle and you're going through tissue well you're compromising another spot so now you have a primary and secondary injury spot now you're recovering from two sites and that's why you need downtime for the secondary injecting sites so now because of lack of movement you might you know start getting into a little bit a more ahesion buildup and then it kind of puts in a cascade like oh you know it's is not fairing that well because you're immobilized in that joint because you have to recover from the injury site of the needle so but with the topical you want to continue on moving you want to continue on doing your same activity and that will penetrate through the skin to the damaged tissue over the 30 day period and it yields as much as the injectables now let me let me tell you why I why I moved into the topical world so as my athletes are typically going through their season one of the complaints they had they couldn't do these stem cell therapy injections during the season because of the downtime so when you have downtime with the pro athletes like missing weeks well it you're playing with their money right so it's basically you miss a couple games it's in their contract you get paid per game or something they don't want that in addition to some other factors like contracts or they don't want to report injuries so what these guys would do you know to avoid that kind of like that pain they would do that pain med stuff you know you heard about the injections and all that other things that prevent them to feel what's going on down there and their ankle whatever problem they have so with the topical application I started thinking that's non-invasive it can deliver the same information the stem cells down into the tissue and then continue play so I had a quarterback that was going through a bad Achilles tendon and he kept on you know doing the off-season protocol like with all athletes they go through a stem cell injection protocol off-season because they don't have to work out or do anything so they have the ability to do some rest time during that period but during the season this quarterback his Achilles tendon wasn't healing correctly so he came up to me we talked about it and we started doing regen with him that topical application so he was the one to help me tune up formulated change to kind of the overall feeling of it and because of him and him using uh regen during the season he was able to play the whole season injury free healed and more importantly since he was at the last year contract it was not like a negotiating tool like hey you know I can't give you that much money because of you know your injury here so that helps him out in that world so that's how it was first developed and I started thinking well if it works for that top athlete doing a high velocity trauma we're definitely going to hurt you know help out civilians so that's why it went into this world and it went into things of like you know the 40 plus that we have we still want to be active we still want to play pickleball activity at the later age but we just need something to speed our healing process so that's how it transitioned to then so that's why I'm excited about regen for the topical aspect is that now you can add anybody use it without that invasive world and no downtime so it eliminates pain and increases mobility that would be just a life changer for people imagine that that football player if you didn't have that the future would have not turned out the way it did right no especially I mean we still talk about he's still he's still a diehard person I mean you know football players always be they always go through injuries so he goes oh I got this I got that okay so yeah absolutely but what I love about region is that now because you know it's like you know like sometimes when you think about medicine and where it you see where it's going down and I wouldn't say the trust value but you always have to question you want a second third opinion well the great thing about our technology you know like we talked about is that there's so much information out there so much you know places where you get like good data points and then figure out what protocol maybe it fits for you and maybe doesn't or maybe there's something unique out there well it gives the patient the ability to start like you know like really commanding of what you know is maybe a possibility that it's out of the doctor's hands so that's what's fun about this is that you know regen or stem cell therapy is so due but so proven out there that it's unique in its own world of like where to go with this thing where's the future see in this and then if you can actually have it in the patient's hand and then have an idea where this can you know be applied well that's where the topical world gets involved now it's in the patient's hand well hey I've got this elbow pain it's tennis elbow I've been diagnosed let me apply it on here and then you know they have more of a control of the protocol and the treatment so the way this is designed the molecules are small enough to penetrate all of the layers because I know that that's been a challenge the molecules have to be small enough yeah so there is an agent in the regen format that helps penetrate or you know permeate through the three layers skin and that is called dmso and we've all known about dmso in the past so that's that's the vehicle that we use to get those small molecules through the three layers skin for those who aren't familiar with dmso what is that so it's they call it dimethyl sulfoxide it's a it's a solvent it's a natural solvent it comes from tree bark it was discovered well I'll be back in the early 1900s and where I I heard more about it is when you're when I was younger back in 1970 and stuff like that you would have that unique smell with people like what is that smell and it was the one of the sulfur components of dmso that people with arthritis would rub on their knees or their elbows and it would be fantastic for arthritis but the interesting thing is it's such a good trans trans transdermal application that when you apply it on your skin right away you taste the sulfur and you smell it very fast through your body so it penetrates very fast through your skin it's a lubricant I have neck issues and I actually have used dmso in the past so I am familiar with it really uh-huh it worked um it did um I don't know why I quit using it but I think I've tried a lot of different things because certainly working at a computer all the time doesn't help the situation with my neck I would imagine that Regen would really maybe alleviate some of the pain now can it actually rejuvenate say discs that have been degenerated in your skeletal structure okay so here's the thing with when it comes to like disc issue you know it's deep in the actual like the low back or neck area I mean you have to penetrate through a lot of like tissue like your muscle and all fashion stuff like that so depending on the severity of your disc issue if you have a like there's like certain grades of how bad things are so you know grade one is not as severe as grade three so when you look at something that not that severe you know let's say you have a little bit of joint space loss because the disc has gone a little bit you know in its uh in its age process now Regen will help but the thing is that just like if you were in an injectable role for stem cell it may be one of those things that it's not going to be a one injection it's may be a whole year of like every three month injection so it all depends on the severity of that disc so just like you know they do injection we kind of compare that with Regen so if you have a severe like a grade three disc what they call a DDD like disc degenerative disease then we would say if they got you need like at least three protocol or three treatment or three kits of Regen throughout that year period to help that tissue generate okay so there is help for people with degenerative disc disease because that can come on at a very young age too oh now going back to that techno neck absolutely our neck low back middle back we have this a curve a natural curve and they call it like either like a dordotic or a cathodic it's like like if you look at yourself in sideways position it's like a s right now we always think that the discs are shock absorbers but naturally it's for mobility we want motion so like our cervical have the seven segments of the spine and then lumbar has five and the middle over back called thoracic have 12 well the disc in between like all these vertebrate bones well the disc we look at that in our world as mobility you want to keep the curve so it acts as one big spring just like a slinky right so when you think about walking if you have a curve from your cervical your neck thoracic your mid back and your lumbar low back and you're doing any kind of compression in your body by walking it springs back and forth you know not disc by disc but the mobility of all the segments act as one spring but when you have like a straight neck or a straight lumbar and you lose the curve well now you're playing havoc on the disc where the disc starts bulging out herniating out and you don't want that you want to keep that natural curve so posture very important that techno neck you said that's not good because then you have a straight neck and then then all of a sudden the disc starts embezzling going outwards you know bulging and herniating out and then now you're going on that cascade of like bulging herniation then go to neuropathy then you know all the orthos in that world say all right you need a dysectomy and lamectomy to alleviate the nerve pain then you go down the cascade of all and now you're going down the rehab world so yeah you see how everything starts with number one poor posture and then number two you know you're buying mechanics and you know how to correct and get somebody to identify that so regen has the ability to regenerate but when it comes to posture that's a whole mechanism of self-discipline there so you all understand that part so my mother was correct when she said sit up straight oh hundred percent stay tuned for more of women road warriors coming up industry movement trucking moves america forward is telling the story of the industry our safety champions the women of trucking independent contractors the next generation of truckers and more help us promote the best of our industry share your story and what you love about trucking share images of a moment you're proud of and join us on social media learn more at truckingmovesamerica.com welcome back to women road warriors with shelly johnson and kathy tocaro let's talk about one of the hottest topics in health today stem cell therapy most people think it means needles and expensive invasive procedures but dr tomi rey is changing all of that he's a pioneer in regenerative medicine who's worked with the tampa bay buccaneers ucla athletes and even the u.s navy his new book the future of regenerative medicine unlocking the potential of topical stem cell therapy reveals how non-invasive topical applications like his own creation regen are helping athletes and everyday people heal faster stay mobile longer and boost their quality of life with no downtime stay tuned dr rey is explaining how all of this works it's really fascinating dr rey in our last segment we mentioned posture is being super important so self-discipline is part of keeping our mobility along with the advantages of stem cell therapy like you have here's something funny about you know you always hear like you know females are more prone to like like neck herniations than males you know i think one of the common threads that that's really like pronounced is hair because majority of females have longer hair than males so when you think about hair you think about you know the way of the hair and then you apply water to the hair your tech maybe like almost a half a pound to a pound of extra weight you're playing you're applying on that neck area with the hair so that's another thing that you have to be cognizant of like how to keep that posture because if you have the good posture you can handle that weight the extra weight of that hair and being wet but if you're out of position that extra pressure well it's applied to your discs now so that's why it'll go down that pathway makes sense you don't think about how heavy here is especially when you're oh it's heavy yeah people have my cousin oh my god she her she had hair down to her bottom and it was so thick and heavy and it was just it gave her a headache she had nothing to cut it because it was just too much yeah it's it's nice when you're younger you know but when you get older you you know how that goes especially when the hair gets wet then you're looking at whoa that's a lot of weight it's a lot of work yeah I think as women get busier in their adult lives they're like I don't want to deal with this all the time unless you have a hair dresser that you can take with you and most people don't Dr. Ryu also have been involved with oxygen therapy whole body cryotherapy, pizza wave, shockwave therapy what are all those things? So because of injured athletes you want to speed up the healing process and that includes besides you know regenerative medicine that includes oxygen so when you look at oxygen in its form you want to include it into the healing process right so just like if you have like a cut you know how you have a cut in your hand you know the old keep air let the air out it heal faster well that's the same principle you want more oxygen you want more the healing properties to the damnant tissue so we have things like you know a hyperbaric chamber it has higher pressure so it can diffuse to the cell membrane it gets to that cell to heal faster and then there's another thing called the EWT which is like exercise with oxygen therapy so the hyperbaric chamber does more of like a passive from the the gradient being stronger outside the inside the cell membrane so the oxygen molecule just pushes the membrane going to the cell with EWT it's almost the opposite draws in because you're basically doing a high intense exercise for about eight to ten minutes and you're breathing like 60 pounds of oxygen and it's forced into your body so you're pulling it in because you're at extreme exercise that you're you're pushing your lack threshold higher so it gives you the ability to go harder stronger because the O2 is consumed at a faster rate so again that's another way of pulling oxygen through your body instead of being forced into it it's getting drawn into it they now have another device that's called a piezo wave and then you know they call it the old aka the shock wave or something like that so it's just basically there's fluid that gets caught in between joint space so I can't menu get between like let's say the top part of your ankle they call it tell our dome you can't get in there to flush out that fluid so you need something forcefully get out there so we use this high velocity sound wave and the piezo wave to get in there and push that fluid and it's just it's a focalize right into that joint space and it pushes that fluid out so it gives you like more of a more of a fluidity in that joint so that it won't have the compression of the excess fluid inflammation so you know when you're in a sports world you want the latest and highest technology you can find out there to help these athletes or civilians or anybody that have to do with like you know movement you know our mission statement here is we treat everybody like a pro athlete so that includes you know weekend warriors that people that sit in the office we treat them all like an athlete you're gonna we always look at you as a moving object if it's high performance or low performance you're still moving so when we look at that then we say all right what's the best equipment for those pro athletes or people behind the desk that's the equipment so we look for those type of equipment to help you heal faster and really like just get you back to play or you know whatever you're thinking about doing makes sense well I imagine people when they're weekend warriors do some serious damage if they've been sitting all week and then they decide to really break it loose they come back hobbling and hunched over on Monday yeah hey you know that you know how the old what's the old analogy like I'm young in mind not in a body that's the problem with all of us we all think we can still do things like we're 20 years old sure but you know mindset really is a positive thing oh absolutely that absolutely is a very positive thing it's just that you just need a body to catch up to the mind you know I I've known people in their 20s who think old yeah and they're setting themselves up so yeah you know I always see that the biggest component of majority of these like these you hear the classic disorders or diseases that are coming up more often like diabetes and cardiovascular disease one of the components that are missing is just the simple movement exercise you got to keep moving your body loves that stress and then you're just kind of like you just put yourself in a little bit of stressful situation so you can handle it as you go further in life we are more sedentary as a society than we were 50 years ago when you think about it it's good to see children when they're running around outside when the parents say get out there because most of them are in front of their video games or their smartphones they're sitting yes incredible what's going on out there you hear about the even the correct on the school or like restricting PE classes and they're shortening a lot of these activities to be physical in class so yeah it's interesting where it's evolving right it's not evolving correctly I mean we're not designed to sit no and I know as a kid I could not sit it's like I'm done with my work I'm gonna run around the room it's like Shelley sit down now whole body cryotherapy is that the same thing like the cryogenics I mean what is that so um so whole body cryotherapy so you're you're basically in this chamber for about two and a half minutes at below 166 degrees and the object is that yeah so the object is that you want to do what they call sympathetic reaction where you shunt all the blood from your extremities to your core and your basal constrict so the therapy itself is not during the actual cryo aspect of it you heard like like the cold plunge and all that and it's the same theory but in this case it's a lot faster because the first thing your body does in the physiology world it's when you feel it's cold it wants to warm the area up so it does what they call basal dilation so it brings more blood flow the area so your capillaries open up and it allows more of the oxygenated blood with that core temperature to get to the extremity the arm or leg and then it tries to warm it up when it identifies that it can't warm up then it does the opposite which is basically close the vessels down protect the core of the heart and you know organs and shunt all the blood from the arms and legs to the actual core of the body right so with cryo whole body cryotherapy it's so coded a bypass to the first component of it and it goes right to basal constriction it goes right into the sympathetic reaction so what the idea is that it's not so much that you'll want the cryo component of it you want the secondary the the result of the sympathetic is the parasympathetic when you come out now you have to the body recognizes we're back to a room temperature so it goes back to the parasympathetic and it basal dilates large vessels and all the vessels and it opens things up so then you can quickly flush out so now you have oxygen blood going down in this large diameter of the of the dilation but also the venous and arterial flow are opened up so now you're flushing out all that extra stuff including metabolic waste so when you have that kind of inflammatory world you know you're stuck with like a long period like you know you always feel like a little swollen or some type of inflammation or something well that's what the idea is that you want to flush it out fast so that's why you go into the cryo and then when you come out of it five ten minutes later you feel that flushing feeling of that warmth through your whole body well that's the body returning it to this normal function so it cold body cryo therapy was first developed by a Japanese rheumatologist that was working with rheumatoid arthritis so that was one of this protocol because you know rheumatoid arthritis is basically your body all immune it's just trying to you know fight itself or attack itself so when it comes to uh RA rheumatoid arthritis uh some of the things that you want to get out is that metabolic waste so this Japanese doctor went into this world of cryotherapy and he saw great results about pain and getting back to like no normal function so that's how it first started and then athletes took upon to recover faster you want to get that metabolic waste all that like that that excess bad tissue you want to get it out that all the three radicals you want to get it out and then they moved into the world of just wellness so cryo so when you hear about when people and they do like uh co-plunge co-plunge that's why they want you stay in there a little longer because your first couple minutes is a warming sensation and then secondary is the constricting component of it so that's the whole body cryo therapy so you're flushing the body of toxins yeah that uh huh afterwards that not during the time afterwards so you want the aftermath of that cryotherapy stay tuned for more of women road warriors coming up industry movement trucking moves america forward is telling the story of the industry our safety champions the women of trucking independent contractors the next generation of truckers and more help us promote the best of our industry share your story and what you love about trucking share images of a moment you're proud of and join us on social media learn more at truckingmovesamerica.com welcome back to women road warriors with shelly johnson at catheter carl stem cell therapies everywhere in the headlines but what if you could get the benefits without the needles dr. tomi re has been leading the charge in regenerative medicine he's worked with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers UCLA athletes and even the u.s. navy his therapies are unique in his new book the future of regenerative medicine unlocking the potential of topical stem cell therapy he reveals how his innovation regen is making healing faster mobility lasting longer and life better all without invasive procedures he's changing the face of what getting older means dr. re's been sharing his great insight with kathy and me dr. re i would imagine with all of the different chemicals in our world today there's a lot more toxicity that maybe people 60 70 years ago didn't deal with oh yeah you know i think the prime example i still like use remember like i remember like back in the 70s a loaf of bread couldn't stay longer than a week and now you can keep a loaf of bread for like three weeks on a shelf it's kind of scary it's like very scary yeah what's next i mean there are things out there we don't even know we see look at the ingredients like look at that go what is all this stuff here i think the best like like you know if you really want to know what goes on as far as like is it is it safe for you just put up put a food down on the ground and see what like insect or ants or something will eat it if you see it still there and nobody's touched it tells you exactly what that's about kind of funny because uh i have a the mere gluten allergy and at work i'll toss out the the the gluten-free bread even the ravens won't touch it even like the gluten-free crackers they won't touch it yeah that's kind of funny anything but the gluten-free if insects aren't going to eat some of that stuff yeah why would i yeah yeah because their nature is cleanup crew yeah when you think about it you never remember margin was around margin oh yeah do you remember like remember it would never melt just never melt you stick it out in room temperature never melt whereas butter we had butter i mean it would basically be almost like back to liquid and i remember like uh ants and roaches around my house you know i used to live in a bad part of town but they would never touch that stuff they would just you can see them attack everything else like butter and stuff but not not that yeah we need to do some thinking and do some observing what what mother nature's consuming and if they won't touch what we're eating maybe we shouldn't too yeah good point uh so dr re where do people find your product where do they find your book your book really is it is a great tutorial for people i think that there are a lot of different things that you cover the types of stem cells cell damage and aging who's a candidate for stem cell therapy you explain chromosomes and telomeres and telomerase and all of that stuff those are kind of the building blocks aren't they with our bodies where do people get educated with the future of regenerative medicine unlocking the potential of topical stem cell therapy and where do they reach out to you okay um well as far as my book you can go on to amazon and just uh you can type in my name dr thomas re or you can just do the title which is the future of regenerative medicine unlikin the potential of topical stem cell therapy um and again yeah exactly so it has the science aspect of it and also has a layman's uh uh terminology in there so we can all follow along the path of jeff and his quest of understanding about stem cell and topical stem cell for regen you can look up uh regen.com which is r h e e g e n dot com and there's a lot of information on there and a lot of good topics and then if you have any questions you know we have social media sites that that goes into any type of like scenarios of a particular injury or something and if you need to get a hold of me there there should be a little clink there that you can go info at regen just ask me a question and i'll shoot back to you within a couple hours or days you know depending on where i'm at and then i'll get your answers. Excellent well i would imagine people have different needs and maybe even reach out to you regarding just anti-aging certainly women are always we're always being programmed you've got to look like you're 16 years old you know yeah you know it doesn't just stop there i think everybody wants to be 16 years old i looked at my old pictures oh look at those days in the navy look at that yeah what's the perfect age you know if people could go back in time with the knowledge we have yeah what would you want to look like and feel like and wouldn't it be really great i mean do you see that with stem cell therapy that it's uh going to essentially prolong our lives but also the quality of life? Yeah so there's like two like age spans there's those you know age there's a lifespan and an active lifespan and i know that people want to think about the aesthetics and how you look but i always look at how you feel you know that's really important how can you keep going forward exercise being active because activity and exercise is such a good mental how would you say almost like a therapeutic way of dealing with other type of you know mental stress the physical aspect so where i've seen a feature is that aesthetically you know it would definitely go there but but it's about the physical side of it about allowing yourself to keep going keep allowing yourself to play that pickleball play with your grandkids be able to keep moving so you're functioning fine and then you're having that that that fun feeling of being active as if you're young that's what life's about you know if we don't have quality of life there really isn't life you want to be able to participate in life oh yeah that's the biggest thing to do you know just i always say that if you look at you know but that's what the beauty of the office is i get to see all ages and their injury and what set them off into that cascade so i'm fortunate to see the future about my life and others with the examples of my patients here so it's one of the key components is activity when you see someone in their 90s 80s still active and one of the key components exercise keep moving keep moving you know you know in yeah i was nursing for 13 years and i worked four years in orthopedics and uh we had at the top a hip replacement in the country in canada and knee surgery and you'd the the thing that was the most noticeable was those that exercise versus those that didn't in their recovery the ones that have constantly exercised on yoga the healing process was almost immediate as opposed to those who never walked who never did stairs it would take a lot of the the length and time for healing was almost double big difference yeah you know and that's why i always think about active lifespan being in an 80s still being active you always want to think that i want the ability to continue walking and being competitive in walking just like as if you're in 20s nothing's i can only imagine what it feels like if i'm in my 70s that have a difficult time walking just a quarter mile i mean that would play mental that would be mental like detrimental my whole psychological outlook i have if i can't apply that kind of like physical stress on my body sure yeah we don't feel good it affects our mental state it's everything and people deteriorate they get depressed they get discouraged it's a just a whole body reaction when you think about it so dr re what is your website again it's uh www.region.com and then uh again amazon if you look at the future regenerative medicine uh at amazon and you can see my book there this has been super informative so interesting oh my goodness so interesting thank you very much oh you guys are great this is so much fun you know i loved it well thank you dr re we appreciate it very much and this has been informative for our listeners yeah great guys are great awesome we appreciate having you on the show dr re thanks so much and both kathy and i have learned a ton it's been a pleasure we hope you've enjoyed this latest episode and if you want to hear more episodes of women road warriors or learn more about our show be sure to check out womenroadwarriors.com and please follow us on social media and don't forget to subscribe to our podcast on our website we also have a selection of podcasts just for women there are a series of podcasts from different podcasters so if you're in the mood for women's podcasts just click the power network tab on women road warriors dot com you'll have a variety of shows to listen to anytime you want to podcasts made for women women road warriors is on all the major podcast channels like apple spotify amazon audible youtube and others check us out and please follow us wherever you listen to podcasts thanks for listening you've been listening to women road warriors with shilly johnson and kathy tocaro if you want to be a guest on the show or have a topic or feedback email us at s johnson at womenroadwarriors.com