A First Nations Man From Vancouver Island Shares Decades Of Encounters With Sasquatch

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So settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society. Welcome back to another episode. Today we've got the privilege of talking to Mr. Tom Sewed up there in the Pacific Northwest. You may know Tom from a few different things such as SasquatchTheLegend.com. If you've been to Forks, Washington, you may have seen the Bigfoot store and also opening up a Bigfoot Museum, which we'll probably be talking about that as well. And you run a rather big Facebook group, Sasquatch Island as well, right Tom? Yes, man. Hello, Kassela. Greetings to everyone watching. My name's Tom Sewed. Remember the Kwakwakiwak First Nation or Indian tribe from Northern Vancouver Island. But I do live here in Forks, Washington on the Olympic Peninsula. Awesome. Forks is such a great place. I need to get back out there now that I'm into Bigfoot. I will say the last time I was out there was actually for a honeymoon and it was more into the twilight side of things. This was a long time ago, so I need to get back out there and see all the Bigfoot stuff. Man, let's talk about, I mean, I'm really interested in your starting up this museum and you are starting to get acquisitions for this left and right. Oh, it's just crazy all the support we're getting. And I guess it's mainly because I have so many items in my personal collection, like the company house I live in here. I do all of the West Coast native art for the store of Sasquatch and whales and other things, but mainly Sasquatch. So, you know, the original paintings I had, you know, I had them just piled up in my closet, but now they're on the walls of this house, but we're going to bring them to the museum. And we just recently, we acquired a private collection of 38 casts, numerous foot casts, all the famous ones, you know, Josh Gates, Yeti replica, Bossburg, Cripplefoot. But the unique thing about it was the gentleman reached out 16 years ago to Dr. Jeff Meldrum and that's who he bought the casts off. So they all have that sort of ash color gray with them that, you know, was indicative of a Meldrum cast and a lot of provenance with it. And then a woman from Oregon City came up last weekend and she donated three casts, one of an 18 inch foot, it's massive from Mount Hood, a big knuckle print and a big handprint the size of a baseball glove. I talked to someone on Vancouver Island, I got the famous Sayward Vancouver Island track way. I'm going to have one of those casts as well as my good buddy, the late Dr. John Bindernegel, his famous cast with the hiking boot imprint in the middle of it. I'll have that in the museum eventually as well too. So it's going to be a big museum. We're probably pushing close to 45 plus casts, even a butt print in the Sasquatch if you can believe that. I didn't think that we'd get one of those, but we got one. Oh, wow. What's the history on the butt print? I mean, don't know where it's from, but apparently it's a female. You can actually, someone said you can actually see the vulva. I've heard of that. Yeah. Outline in there. So it's a pretty famous cast and I believe Cliff has a replica of it in his museum, but this lady, she picked up or that private collector, he picked it up from somewhere and we got it now. So that'll be good. And then one of the unique things is behind me, you see Chonachva over my left shoulder. That's what we call Sasquatch in my language of Kwakala from my tribe. Our highest ranked crest. And when we go to potlatch is we'll wear the regalia of the Cedar Chonachva mask in the fur regalia. My family, you have a basket on your back for the baby Sasquatch and we're going to build mannequins and have them in display cases. So you can see the, you know, it's pretty famous regalia that I have because I've done so many conferences and television shows. And then this one right here is actually owned by Robert Alley. I'm just doing some finishing work on a crack that he got put in there. He dropped it. But anyway, that's Bukkwas and those are the little hair covered beings that are bipedal to my tribe. They're the keeper of the ghost world or chief of the ghost world, but to other Indian tribes right across North America, they're referred to as little people or stick people. So it's going to be a pretty unique museum. A lot of indigenous Indian cultural components pertaining to Sasquatch. It'll be very extremely interesting. I know that I know at least some of your items will be unique to that museum and not in any other museums. And I'm referencing probably to the Mount Hood cast, which I know a little bit about actually because I think the ones that you received. I myself am friends with the individual as well. That was up visiting you, which she is great. And the Frank Kniester, do you know if they were cast by her specifically or if they were from the individual that she used to partner with? Sounds like they were together when they did it. Okay. And of course, you know, he tragically passed on an accident, which is really bad. Yeah. And when she came up, you could tell she was pretty distraught and everything, but you know, brought me a whole bunch of tree breaks and twists as well and that weave bundles. But I swore in as the president of Sasquatch Island, Oregon, and in order to break in my presidents, I got to show them a Sasquatch. So last Friday night, she got here Friday afternoon, six hour drive, give her some dinner. Because they call it eating like a Sasquatch. I made a traditional food of food I'd harvested in the peninsula over the last year and a bit. And then afterwards we drove down, picked up my buddy, who's one of my fellow investigators here on the peninsula. And we drove up to, we have a contract with a family and we're calling it Squatch walk your ranch and logo and t-shirts coming. It's kind of like that other one that's out there. But we have over 300 plus acres with five houses on it and a pioneer family that they're all 70 years old and older. And they didn't know it was Sasquatch that was banging their houses and making noise and tree knocking and breaking. So they brought me in a couple of months ago. And, you know, it's so popular that their property was actually on one of the TV shows a few years ago. Everybody go Shane Corson with from the Olympic project was there. Shane came up and investigated with my partner and my friend the other couple of weeks ago and I talked to him today. He's coming back because it is on like Donkey Kong. We go up there Friday night. I didn't want to go in in the direct property, but we were using we got purchased replacement value would be over $40,000, $50,000. The three floor night vision heat scopes we bought. They're not manufactured by Fleur. There are other companies from a from a few years back, but we're turning the darkness into daylight and seeing like two, 300 yards. And we were going down the road just outside the gate and I'm like, stop. And there's deer come across the road at the same time. I said stop. And I looked in the field because I saw bedded down elk, not 40, 50 yards from us. But then as I looked up in the dozen Douglas fir about two feet in diameter, but spread apart. Here's this big Sasquatch standing there looking at the road where we are. And all of a sudden we all saw it. And it's like moving about and they're, you know, they're talking away. I'm looking with my floor and we're swapping the different units because, you know, what everyone seems to have a different ability to see things and one's heat. And of course, and I even tried my little Fleur scout and I could see the heat sig of the Sasquatch tree peak and and she's like, am I really looking at a Sasquatch? And I'm like, yeah, she finally get to see a Sasquatch. I said, well, I hope you two know you're my number 23 and 24 that I put on a Sasquatch. And we watched it and then I hit the spotlight after about eight minutes or so to try to illuminate up. But it was a little too far away was 225 yards or a little more away. And we measured it out a day later and everything we know that he was over eight foot tall. He was 225 to 240 yards away from the road. And all of a sudden I hit the spotlight. The other two with their scopes on, they're like, it just dropped and hit the dirt, hit the dirt. And then I grabbed another scope, shut the light off, look, and I could see it crawling on the ground away from us. And then it disappeared because it got into the big ferns that were three, four feet high. So I was calling through that and then all of a sudden it stood up and I could see it walking bipedally away from us into the login slash. And you know, I've seen him so many times it's a big deal. Yeah, but it's not that big of a deal to me nowadays. But to Steve and to Uli, you know, that was bucket list. They got your check. Yeah, no, absolutely. I actually talked to Uli earlier today because I was like, I got to hear from Uli and she's still on Cloud 9. I mean, just constantly playing it over and over in her head. And the crazy thing is, is it's like, I'm just going to share a little bit from what she shared with me. Just what she noticed, it's like, it's not like you purposely stopped in a certain point. It's like all of a sudden a deer rushed out of the side of the road. It was like really emotional. It had its tail tucked between its legs. And so you guys had to stop because the deer was there and you look over the elk and there's the Sasquatch. It's like crazy, man. Yeah. And being a Grizzly Bear hunting guide for over 20 years and a bushman for decades, commercial fishermen and that, but mainly my bush skills. You know, as soon as we stopped, the first thing I registered on is, you know, because I'm a smoker is which ways to smoke going. And it was going from the elk to the Sasquatch. So he was in a down-run position. And with the piles of broken branches and refuse from the logging operation that took place there, like, you know, big beaver dam, beaver houses. That's what we thought it was hiding behind, but it was actually in the timber about, I guess, maybe 25 meters further back. So he was using those trees and then, you know, being a hunter when I walked up there the next morning, I was like, Hey, you guys, look at this trail. There's the grass trail through the logging slash almost looks like they removed all of the twigs and branches and things. It was a perfect trail of grass in between the ferns and replanted trees, you know, which were only about four feet high because we actually found a tree break in that same log slash area. But it almost looks like there's so much elk activity there, which, you know, it is because there's three logging slashes that the Sasquatches have set it up that they know that it's where they can hide on the prevailing southeast. Wind or the Northwest wind, they got it set up like, you know, hunters set up their blinds in their trails. Extremely interesting. So this is an area then that you can take people on your expeditions or is this a totally different area? Oh, no, I can bring them on expeditions there. You know, it's I have a rule here. Peggy and I, my wife came up with. I've been here going on 22 months now managing Sasquatch legend calm. And I lived two blocks from the store and I decided to say Peggy, I know we go down to Lake Quenol. We're talking about going to Lake Lozette. We're talking about going here all over a half an hour drive. All the activity we're getting is all within a half hour radius of the house and store. So let's make a rule. We're going to stay within half an hour radius. That way we're not wasting gas and time and you know, we've got over 30 trail cameras out there and when you're changing batteries and data cards, you know, you can't be driving all over the Olympic peninsula. This place is vast. So half hour radius and it just shows you how many Sasquatches are here. So one of the things I did in Canada because all my bush knowledge and Sasquatch knowledge through the years is I was approached by some native tribes and the GIS mapping and their resource departments wanted to know how to guesstimate a population of Sasquatch. And I said, Well, number one, you're not going to do it in the forest. This episode is brought to you by Spreaker, the platform responsible for a rapidly spreading condition known as podcast brain. 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I said the best way is treat tree structures and prominent geological features on rivers, creeks and streams that have salmon, steelhead and other fish and waterfall and different things that they eat. And I said, if we look at it where every in Canada were metric, so every 10 kilometers of river, you're just I'm finding that within 10 to 14 kilometers, you'll find a teepee structure, a boundary marker showing different clans of Sasquatch where the lower part of the whole river where the mid part of whole river and where the upper clan up there where all the salmon spawns. So in that 10 kilometers own seven miles where you have optimum shallow water riffles where salmon and steelhead go up at nighttime so there's no predators like birds and eagles and wolves and raccoons and river otters. They're just like World War one soldiers going up the ladder across a barbed wire into no man's land at nighttime. It's just thousands of salmon and steelhead going up hundreds of steelhead. So the Sasquatches will stand in those riffles ankle deep and just bend down and grab the fish they want to eat fill their belly, bring up into the forest to their family. So we use a factor of four Sasquatches for every 10 kilometers seven miles with optimum shallow water. So if you look at the whole river we can estimate that with the length of it there's roughly 20 to 24 Sasquatches just on the whole river system and its tributaries. On the Olympic Peninsula I did the analysis with the amount of salmon rivers and we come up with 168 to 220 Sasquatches just on the Olympic Peninsula. So if you're looking at a high concentration of Sasquatches in North America one other place beats this but I know that the Olympic Peninsula outside of an Indian reserve has the highest concentration of Sasquatches in the United States that I know of so far. That is wild. What's the other area that that's right up there with it? Vancouver Island. Ah okay. Okay well there you go right. Yeah which you're very familiar with as well. Oh yeah I grew up there at Lifetime. Grisgård Hunt and Guidoff, Vancouver Island, ran eco-tourism operations, commercial fish, the entire British Columbia coast for over 40 years. You know I've been to places in British Columbia and most humans will never get to and drop an anchor and nighttime it's a low tide. Hey let's go to the beach, dig some clams, cockles. Cockles are a type of clam which is a favorite food of the Sasquatch and humans as well but you know we might get 300 clams in one cockle. In a dig so you know they're pretty rare and when we go digging clams commercially or for food we're digging 1500, 2000 pounds of clams in one night one boatload of diggers. So when we're out there you know we'd hear the whistles, the chirps, the tree knocks, the tree being pushed down the dead tree and what it was was back when I was a teenager it was Tommy, Tornukh was hungry, doesn't like us on their beach. Grab that box full of cockles and bring it up to the tree line you know 100 yards away and you're walking up, your throat's dry, you're shaken, you're terrified because you get up to the tree line it's just a wall of black and you're throwing cockles in there and you're just waiting for big hairy arm to come out and grab you. But once you do that the Sasquatches will take the gift you give them and leave you alone not making any more noise. So that's the interaction I've had with Sasquatch right from being a child when I was first taught about the bush. They brought a bunch of us young boys out and we anchored out, we dingy to shore and as soon as we got there you know high tide daytime one of the elders, hey you young punks get up here. We went up to the high tide mark and he said look broken trolley shells, cockle shells on log, big indentations in the gravel. He goes those broken cockle shells that's Tornukh, the Sasquatch telling us we're digging this tide at low tide at night when the big low tide is here. You humans go somewhere else so we're going to go back out to the boat, pull anchor and go a mile one of the other directions. Go to a different shellfish beach, truth that if there's no evidence of Sasquatch we will dig there that night. And that's the respect my tribe and many other coastal tribes have with Sasquatch. We don't just go digging on a beach, we make sure Tornukh, a Sasquatch isn't using that beach because that's very disrespectful. That's extremely interesting. I have a question about the regalia that's behind you and people can see this in the YouTube version of course. I've always wondered when you see these masks a lot of the representations of Sasquatch they seem to have pursed lips. Is there a reason why these masks are made with the pursed lips? Because they're always going whoop whoop whoop. And we do when we actually go on the potlatch floor you come out of the chameleus, the screen that enters you onto the floor. The chiefs and drummers are all to your left. The first thing you do is you do an anti-clockwise circle. It's our etiquette and then you enter the floor. And the first thing you do is you rub your eyes, yarn, rub your eyes again. You walk a bit like a Sasquatch and you whoop whoop whoop whoop. Start your walk again and then you reach out like you're grabbing misbehaving children. My family throw them in the basket because when you're young you're told Tommy you behave yourself. You start not quit acting up. Tornukh is watching. You misbehave, don't do your chores, pull a temper tantrum, don't eat your food. Tornukh is going to come at night where you're sleeping, reach in with big hairy arm and grab you. Rub spruce sap from the tree on your eyes so you're blind and can't open them. And so you're going to throw you in that basket on your back. She's going to carry you into the forest deep up a mountain to her invisible home. That's why we can't find Tornukh at a Sasquatch. Naturally she's going to boil you up and eat you through the bones. So he's smart enough. I remember that. You know, I was a young kid in the Ler- I went to my buddies. We went down to the, no offense, but we called the white end because Ler- Bay is like a telephone handle and old days shaped island. The north half is the Indian reserve where we lived and the south half is the municipality of Ler- Bay, which has the non-Indians living there. So we went to the white end to the Chinese corner store. I guess you could say it was on pilings over the beach and we're bought candy, played on the beach. Nelson, I looked up and I noticed that the sun was going behind Vancouver Island to the west. And I'm like, oh no, I misbehaved and I got to get home. My little legs, I'm running. I got to the shipyards on the beach and I stopped and I peered around the Brown House at the graveyard. And there's all the big memorial totem poles standing up all the different crest figures of the chieftains that passed. And of course, five of them with carved Tornukh at the base signifying the highest ranked crests of the Kwakwaki walk. And the chief that passed with their sleepy eyes or puckered lips, their big breasts or outstretched arms and all that kept thinking. I was like, oh no, Tornukh is going to get me. The sun's going down. I'm misbehaving. I'm just sprinting. And I was in this car horn was honking. It was one of my family members. Tommy, what the hell are you crying for? Get in the car. I'll bring you home. It's getting dark. That's funny. Wow. So one of the first interviews I did that was focused on Bigfoot was with an older gentleman from Vancouver Island. It was really interesting and it was about a certain area. I'm just curious if you know anything about this area to do with Bigfoot. I think it was called Gold River. Have you heard anything? Well, I know Gold River well. Yeah. The Texana Indian Reservation is there. One of the Machalat-Muchalat tribe in the new channel of the First Nation, the West Coast tribes, 24 of them out there. But the Machalat-Muchalat, I have friends in there. Peggy and I went there probably 2012 investigating. One of the elders was telling us all about the high, high amount of activity on the Indian Reservation, the river. He told us that they have a canyon and the young guys and girls will climb down ropes to their fishing station to catch the sockeye salmon, the reds. And I guess this one guy was going down there one time and he was just setting up getting his fishing gear ready to catch sockeye. All of a sudden a big, all he saw was his big feet and hair. All of a sudden the Sasquatch stood up, shook its head and went, I got, and the eyeball locked each other. He's on the shore and Sasquatch is in the river. They both looked at each other and Sasquatch just turned and went downstream. Oh my goodness. But scared of that Indian kid. Guess he said, I don't know what to do. I go, fish or not fish. He said, heck with it. I'm not fishing right now. And he went scampering up the rope again to get out of there. But the whole islands I got, that's why they prefer to it is Ape Island and Vancouver Island. It's, well, it's the highest concentration of wood carvings of Sasquatch on earth. When you get up to Campbell River, the Lechata are southern tribe members and family. And then further north you get to Campbell River. The city's got the highest concentration of wood carvings of Sasquatch on earth. Even paintings or have a carving competition every June and Campbell River. And there's Sasquatch is all through the town, the museum and then the native families all have their. Guild us their box of treasure trunks filled with masks. And of course, every family has one or many more to an awful carvings mask to bring to life. What an ancestor saw potlatch. And then you have the native art galleries and artists that are all carving tuna Sasquatch and book was because that's what the buyers want. Everyone especially with me advocating to the world through social media websites, television shows, Sasquatch conferences and of course, pod and video casting and radio shows. People that are Sasquatch enthusiasts and have collections all want to have a tuna Sasquatch mask like that one. And you know, I got a commission. I got one over there on the table that I've got to start finish sanding and then I got a car of it, paint it, put the hair on it. That's going to New York, upper New York state, you know, so tuna are very wanted by people. And then when you get to the North Island, the community of Port Hardy with the Chaki's the Wallace Quaggill tribe in the south of the city's Indian Reserve and lands. They have carvings all over and show and then on the north side of town is Chowkwadi the class of the tribes. They live there and they're I just saw tonight they're having a grand opening of their ceremonial big house. They've been building for the last three years, June 14th and 15th. They'll be there because I want to see the tuna mask being danced on the floor and get pictures and memory. But I also want to see because I know darn well they're going to have a tuna carved in one of the vertical house posts inside or a welcoming pool or a totem pool outside. So I want to go see that and see the newest of the carved tuna was and big huge logs. That is really, really cool. I have gotten the privilege to interview different First Nations individuals over the years and something that most of them have shared is that sometimes when there's a ceremony that's held, there will actually be interactions with Sasquatch that'll happen in conjunction with the ceremony. Have you ever experienced anything like that where things will start to happen when there's different ceremonies that are taking place? I belong to the Hamatsa society, human flesh users, cannibal society. We don't practice that no more. We haven't for at least three weeks. No, I'm just kidding. We haven't since the early 1900s, late 1800s, but we were the secret servants agents of the chieftains, the ultimate protector of the chiefs. We were the fiercest warriors we've been on. And our society is very secretive and we have a border that we do not cross. So the answer to that question pertaining to my society, I can't answer that. Sure. But I do know because I had permission from two different Indian tribes that were having their ceremonial celebrations and I went to the chiefs and asked, is it all right if I investigate Sasquatch and the bushes around your ceremonial gathering? Sure, go ahead. Don't get eaten by them because they're drawn by the music and singing and the smells like barbecued salmon, cooking and other seafoods and meats. And there's a lot of reports about when we have our big celebrations, be it potlatch or other ceremonies and the drumming has taken place. And you've got to remember that my tribe, the Kwakwakiwot, you know, you'll see us with the deer drums. Skin drums. But when you go to a potlatch, you'll see row upon row, maybe 20, 30, close to 40 chiefs. And the chief holding the potlatch with his helicum, his chief speaker and his talking stick. And then behind the chiefs is a hollow cedar log about three feet in diameter, maybe 30 feet long. And that's for the drummers with hardwood batons pound on it. So when they're drumming, you can put your hand on the wooden bench you're sitting on and feel the vibrations. The whole tilksy big house just rumbles. Boom, boom, boom as the song is being sung and the drumming takes place. And then of course on the floor with all of these vertical and horizontal house posts, all carved of crest figures, thunderbird, eagles, whales, grizzly bears, tunafile, you name it. And then around that firelight, the only light in the big house, it's like a spiritual realm and that booming drumming like thunder. And you're witnessing a tunakha being danced. And you look at it as passes the house pole and Campbell River in their ceremonial big house. And it's the largest interior wood carving of a tunakha saskwatch. And you'll see it on my Facebook group and website. But it is a sight to behold to see a tunakha dancer going by that tunakha house post. It just makes your heart pound. Wow, that is extremely fascinating. You will perform these dances sometimes at different Bigfoot conferences, correct? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, I just found out today I got invited to two different conferences today. One on Vancouver Island in May and another one here in Washington State by the sounds of it at the end of September. They're just in the initial planning stages. But the Vancouver Island May, third weekend of May has been set. Tickets are on sale. I'll be posting that on saskwatch Island and other groups because it's going to be a good conference. You know, you're going to see being Peggy perform with our regalia of tunakha. This episode is brought to you by Spreaker, the platform responsible for a rapidly spreading condition known as podcast brain. Symptoms include buying microphones you don't need, explaining RSS feeds to confused relatives, and saying things like, Sorry, I can't talk right now. I'm editing audio. If this sounds familiar, you're probably already a podcaster. The good news is Spreaker makes the whole process simple. You record your show, upload it once, and Spreaker distributes it everywhere people listen. 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Working at a place like Sasquatch the legend. And I would assume this is only going to get wilder with the museum opening up. You've got to be taking in some reports. You must be hearing stories from people that are visiting your store. I was talking to Shane Corson today from the Olympic project. He laughed at the way he goes, how do you keep up with all these reports? I tell you, man, it's this constant of it ain't coming in by the moccasin modern day moccasin telegraph messenger and emails. If someone phoned me or showing up at the store or calling me to their property, I got like half a dozen people just in and around forks. I got to go truth out their properties and track and see what's going on there because of all the activity and then with the island over on the other side of Puget Sound. It's a heavy populated chunk of turf island. But on the north side, it's a big, you know, a couple thousand acres of timberland. There's a family that's on like Donkey Kong in their backyard with Sasquatch activity. Our gift inside it, the swatch watcher ranch. You know, we had a gifting station we put out the next day. The garlic clove, three garlic cloves have been pulled from the bulb. The apples are gone. Potatoes have been docked on the ground. They don't like potatoes and sweet potatoes. So a couple of days later, more food was put on the stump and five apples were put in a clear plastic container. Well, we went there Saturday morning and the plastic containers open empty line on the ground. Hooli being an ex-police officer put a stick in it. She's now got it to dry to hopefully pull fingerprints off. So, you know, it's this on like Donkey Kong and then I get people just walking in going, oh yeah, you should go down to the clinic across from the hospital, walk that trail. I said, yeah, I know there's a female Sasquatch with a young one. Oh, you know about her? I said, yeah, I get about a report once a month about her. You get a picture? No, I was just so floored when I seen it that it just, and besides that, it just looked at me, jumped up, grabbed it, baby, and just bolted in the bush. I didn't have enough time to pull myself. And then we got the couple on the east side of town. And what they're doing is they're working the urban edge because they've learned that like what happened at the ranch when two weeks ago when we went there before we started gifting. One of the older ladies on the property said, someone on my house. So I'm coming. I thought it was one of my family. No one came in. A few minutes later, I got up and I went to the door, opened it, went outside, nothing. I said, oh, it's a Sasquatch banging your house. The rivers are in blowout flood condition now. And Salmon Run is tapered right off to nothing and the steelhead that are here in deep water and it's very deep and fast moving. So the elk aren't here right now. And what they're doing is pounding on your house. Hey, we're hungry. Feed us. I said, someone in this neighborhood, if you've got a pounding Sasquatch, it means someone in your neighborhood or in their seasonal territorial migration, which is basically not likely to hear on expedition Bigfoot. It goes from Northern California through Oregon to Washington state and branches off to Olympic Peninsula and beyond Washington into Canada. PS Sasquatch is like any other Indian tribe. They have small territories that they've been in for thousands of years and that's where they stay. And the odd one when they get kicked out of the house, they go trumping. And that's where we see the Sasquatches in the Alpine ice fields, Squamish and another one I can't remember where that one's from. But those are Trumpers and they're trumping out of their territory, going to find a mate and new territory, established air clan. Because when you're bumping uglies, you can't bump uglies with your family. You've got to spread your seed. The other bloods way far away. So it's nature's code that we don't interbreed. And unfortunately, in Omaha Indian Reserve, the two Sasquatches I saw on my Flurr Scout, hang lips, that FAS, you know, alcohol syndrome, glazed donut face, that lumbering walk. And all I saw was inbreeding because all of the forest around Omaha Indian Reserve has been removed from industrial farms for generations. And my boots on the ground tribe member, Lucas White, he's investigating down there and he's coming back saying, yeah, they're concerned that there's an overpopulation of their kind, Sitaunga, keeper of the medicine, the Sasquatch. That man, that area, I'm not too far away from that area. I'm about a few hours. I mean, the stories that come out of the Omaha tribe and Sitaunga, I mean, there's very, very intense stuff. There's a few documentaries out there people can watch as well. But you know, something that I wanted to ask you specifically, there's a gentleman I used to talk to quite a bit. He's no longer with us, unfortunately. His name was Henry Franzoni and he was down more in, he did a lot of research in Oregon. And he would always tell stories about how he would hear from First Nations individuals that you could be walking along. And all of a sudden, you could actually be start to, you could be moving and not be meaning to move and they could actually have you walk off a cliff if they wanted to. Is that anything that you've ever heard of where, you know, they can control movement or, you know, you can't move or anything like that? I've had over around 30 encounters with Sasquatch. Like I've lived in Bush for months at a time sometimes. I hated humans back in the 90s and early 2000s. I just disappear, go live like a Sasquatch, run out of cigarettes and coffee in the first two weeks. And after that, I was just go to Feralism and live like a Sasquatch, just going for a took a look. And I worked out there as well. But, you know, all the experience that I've had, I've never had what I term woo. I've never had that control of your walking to walk you off a cliff, which would be mind speaking. Seeing them turn to orbs, cloaking, portal jumping, UFO flying. I've never had that. Like I don't even waste my time with Xs. They're natural, you know, the Sasquatch is going to go through time and effort to build something. It's going to be a tree break twist, a teepee structure, a lean to a weaving bundle like Marie Dumont with her mid Florida Sasquatch investigations. She's set the bunch posted a bunch of weaving pictures. So I reached out to the shamans that I interact with the knowledgeable North American Indians in Canada and the US. And they got back to me a couple of days ago and I phoned Marie yesterday. I said, Marie, that weave you have of the head shape with the long vines hanging down. I said, it's a female looking for a mate. And she's saying, this is how big my head is. This is how long my hair is. The length of the hair is a sign of beauty the longer it is. And that's what she's displaying. And when Hooli gave me all of those tree breaks and twists and everything, she gave me one that looks like a cocoon. And it's all wrapped in everything. And I'm like, oh, a memorial wrap. And what it is is when Sasquatches have a death in their clan, sometimes they'll take a tree break twist and they'll wrap it like a cocoon. And they'll have wide gaps, but it looks like a cocoon because the numerous reports I've gotten from elders about how their ancestor or father went into the cave with the Sasquatches and saw the burial ground. The Sasquatches were all in fetal positions wrapped in three strand feeder bar or wisps, those flexible branches and woven three strand or braided or what have you. And then the bundle cocoon was just a memorial to tell other Sasquatches that one of our families passed and we've cocooned them, bundled them up and put them to rest for eternity now. So it's Sasquatches, because I've been very fortunate because I was born Indian so I can talk to Indians and they open up. They don't hug Indian and zip mouth and don't talk. And then not because I have that Sasquatch celebrity status because of being in different movies and television shows, podcast video because you didn't name it. So I'm kind of like a shiny item and say, holy smokes, it's Tom Sasquatch Island. Can I get a picture with you? Sure. Come on, let's go. You know, and it's really humbling, but at the same turn it's opening doors of people reaching out to me or opening up to me about their stories of Sasquatch and the shamans. You know, I was taught that by three different tribes that Sasquatches live 100 to 130 years old and some 150 and older, the white ones and gray ones are really, really old. And of course, one of the shaman ladies I asked, they said, how did they get so old? It's not a question. Corporal punishment, smack me upside the head. I was like, what? You listen to what I've been teaching you for five days? See Tonga, keeper of the medicine, we call them. They've forgotten more about medicinal remedies and poultices than we will ever know. And that's why I've asked the question. Does your tribe shaman, if they don't get the knowledge passed on by older one because he died maybe in the old days from disease or animal attack or warfare or drowning, or nowadays like that one shaman who hit a telephone pole coming from the casino and killed himself, his grandson had to step up. And this was five years ago and say, I volunteer and he disappeared into their bush. And three and a half years later he came back out and he says, I now have the knowledge of Shaman, the medicine person, because he had did his Diane Goodall, Jane Goodall, Diane Fosse interaction with his local Sasquatches and communicated with them to learn the poultices and remedies and medicinal plants. So some of our tribes, like a lot of people go, oh, how do I become a good investigator or researcher? Bite your tongue. There's no such thing as a Sasquatch researcher. Anyone who says they're researchers, the egomaniac and got fat head because until someone gets pictures, crispy and clear of a Sasquatch that National Geographic's going to put on their magazine and put an editorial inside, then they become a researcher. Until then, we're all bumbling, stumbling investigators. So don't use the R word. And I said, if you want to be a good investigator, you got to learn the number one thing about Sasquatch, you will always as the hairless bipedal be respectful of them. You will never disrespect them. What they thought, turn around, put your hands out like that. I'm going that way. And go 180 and go back where you came from because they're just telling you by tree knocking, we don't want you here. And that's why that TV show in 14 seasons never found a big foot because they're always knocking on trees in the Sasquatch's home, telling them stop, turn around, go back where you come from. How disrespectful. And that's why the Sasquatches just walked away from them. So knowing that Sasquatch is, it's all about respect. Reach out to where you're going to investigate the local Indian tribe. Maybe bring some gifts with tobacco and other things and ask them permission and protocol if you can investigate Sasquatch in their traditional territories. They may let you, they may not. They may even invite you into their Indian reserve. Oh, we're overrun with Sasquatches on our res. Come on in. Bring your cameras. Bring your trail cameras. Johnny down the street, my cousin, he'll help you. He's always running into him when he's hunting. And you've learned the first point about being a good investigator to be respectful. And then when the Indians learn their language, hello, I come in peace. I mean no harm. I gift you food. Goodbye. So me and my territories, and I hear tree knocking or I see them. Yo, we just show no hello. I don't know who you are Sasquatch. We just lay down. What are you up to? I'm going to turn and walk away, but respect. And that's what it's all about. So knowing that level of respect and learning that language. And as you now can tell by your body language and people listening, I know a little bit more than most people about Sasquatch. So one of the things that I'm working on is I'm driving on the highway to Port Angeles and I see Kahlia Campground. And I remember when I was part of the 2010 Winter Olympics, when I represented the provincial Indian Tourism Association, I was its chairman. And we coined the term Kahlia. It's from the trade dialect that all Indians knew across Sasquatch Island, North America. So that when they came across each other, even though I speak a little bit of Kahlia, but in the old days I would have been fluent in Kahlia, but I meet my mother's family in Saskatchewan, the central plains who speak Crete. I don't know how to say, don't say hello. So I say Kahlia. It's universal. Hello, how you doing? And then they'd answer in Chinook. So the Chinook trade dialect was known all through North America. Then contact comes and we get introduced to trappers, explorers, prospectors, land developers, and railway survey teams. And they don't speak the Indian dialect, but they do learn Chinook. This episode is brought to you by Spreaker, the platform responsible for a rapidly spreading condition known as podcast brain. 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Capusta for cabbage, it's Polish, but it's in a Chinook trade in the dialect. And Scucamchuck, big salt water. So if Sasquatches can live for 100 to just below 200 years, it means their great-grandfathers, grand-grandmothers, possibly still understand Chinook. So I've ordered a Chinook dialect book that I'm going to learn Chinook so that when I'm out here, like I did on the whole river in July last year, Steve and I, he's a rafting guide. That's why we do the expeditions on the different rivers with his raft and bring people on Sasquatch's expedition with a raft and ads rocks. But anyway, we're going down the river and we get into the canyon. Steve's got yours. He goes, Tom, I go, what? He goes, it is really, really quiet. There's not even birds making noise or moving about. And I said, yeah, and there's a steep canyon walls all covered in ferns and trees. So I stood on the bow, I put my hands out like that. And I'm like, yo, we just joined our foot in my language of Kwakula. I'm in the Quileo territories. They don't speak Kwakula, but I tried it. Nothing. So then I, how are you, skooka? And then a high pit. Steve's like, holy, keep speaking at the end of us. I don't know anymore. Shut up. So I think I hit something. The Sasquatches understand Chinook dialect because there had to be a way of the Indians to communicate with the Sasquatches to learn the medicinal remedies. And some tribes are still doing that. So Chinook trade dialect, I think is the key. Oh man, that is fascinating. That would be really interesting to do some kind of experiment. I mean, across the country where to see if it's different, just different states that have that same response to the Chinook trade language, or if you can get the same response, you know, from West coast to East coast, you know, I don't know. Yeah, time will tell. Time will tell, definitely. Would you be able to share, you know, you've been on so many expeditions, but you were mentioning earlier that Uli was just the, you know, number, what was it, 23 or 24? There's been other sightings or encounters that have happened on your expeditions. Would you be able to maybe share another story from one of those? So Adam Davies, we all know who he is. Oh yeah, yeah, Adam's great. And Stephen Majors, they wanted to go out. So Buddy, who's an Indian, has a yacht, and Hoda Campbell River, eastern central Vancouver Island. So we all jumped on there with the bosses, or the captain's brother and captain's daughter, niece, and Peggy, my wife. And we all go on this trip. We all had plans about way up in my territory. It's about six, seven hours journey. But if you leave Campbell River at night in the wintertime on a big tide, because we're there for clam tide, which means a big low and a big high tide just logs everyone. And you hit that with your bow, it can sink you. So we get through Seymour Narrows, which is zero tide, or a slack tide, so we don't want any tide rips and overfalls. We scoot through there. And just around the corner, we pull in about 20 minutes later into a small inlet. And I'm like, ah, a small inlet. And no Sasquatch there. But we got there, we dropped anchor, you know, over eight o'clock at night, nine o'clock at night in February. And we're all up on the bridge smoking cigarettes and everything. And I go to Adam, Adam, make a sound like a Sasquatch. You're the big explorer been all over the world. He goes, well, actually make the sound of a mountain gorilla on Mount Kilimanjaro, the Congo. But I'm not going to do like them because when they finish vocalizing, they urinate all over their legs. So anyway, Adam does this big huff and woof and whee. And then when he slops, we get an answer from Timber. And we're all just like, no way. So we're flers out and everything, but nothing. So the next morning we got up, we all went ashore. And I found two piles of broken cockle shells at high tide. There was rotten snow here and there, but we didn't find any tracks. So we decided we're going to stay there for the low tide at six o'clock, hour before dark that night, and dig some shellfish and look for tracks and so forth. So we're digging and everything. And just as we're leaving with our shellfish, about seven o'clock at night, tide starting to rise now. I'm spotlighting. I'm always on the go for Sasquatch. So I put people on him. I don't just sit there and put my head down. So I'm spotlighting around all of a sudden. I'm shining. He goes, I think I saw it. And so we're spotlighting away, but we didn't get no more reaction. We went out to the yacht. All started popping wine courts and beer tabs, captain's law kicks and no one's to go on the dinghies after you start having sips. So we're all sitting there, you know, we didn't see a Sasquatch, we're eating clams and steak. And three hours after low tide has turned to flood, all the shellfish beaches are covered now. Adams out back having a smoke. Tom, you better come here and take a look. It gives me the floor. I look and at about 150 plus yards, there's a huge heat signature on the beach. It stands up by Piedle squats down. I'm like, hey, you guys get out here and we got all the flurs going, but I had to wear with all the grab my floor and my cell phone and put it on there. And we got 16 minutes, 40 seconds recorded a video of that Sasquatch, harvesting something on the beach at half tide rising. So it eventually walks into the bushes and disappears. So right away I'm thinking, what in the heck would it be eating? Maybe we're rolling rocks over for the small crabs underneath and eels. And so the next morning we go ashore and what it was harvesting was what you call China hats. They're a mollusk that sticks like an abalone to the rocks. Everyone the size of a silver dollar or bigger was gone. All that was left on the surface were the ones the size of your pinky nail. So he was smashing them with a rock and eating them. And that's what he was eating. And it just blew me away. I didn't suspect they'd be eating China hats. So that day we did a, you know, droning and different things. And that night we're going to put Adam on the beach and flur them and compare his flur signature to the Sasquatch. Well, me and Peggy put Adam on the dinghy. We bring him to shore and he gets out with my 12 gauge. No light because he doesn't want to spook the any Sasquatch around. And he could hear them and his British accent swearing away as he slipped and then fallen. Clang in my shotgun. That didn't like that sound. And anyway, all of a sudden me and Peggy are offshore and shut the motor off. You know, I'm about 300 yards away from them, letting them do his thing. I don't want to be in the way with the analysis of Adam's heat size from the boat with Steven and other people. And all of a sudden the radio goes off, handheld. Tommy come pick me up, come pick me up. It's pouring at me. So I had to start, turn the keys, zip in. Peggy get ready to help Adam. And she's at the bow. And as I'm going in with the spotlight lifting my motor, I look up. And there's a perfect cheeky. Peggy look up, there's a Sasquatch looking at us. And she's too busy helping Adam and getting the 12 gauge, getting him him. He just wants to get off that beach. We get on the boat or pulled away. And he's like, that thing was growling at me. It was like eight feet away from me growling at me. So something that that was a good one because credibility on that one. I got witnesses and one of them is Adam Davies. Oh yeah. Now Adam is Adam's a great guy. I needed to have a conversation with him someday. He's got some really cool stuff that's happened to him. Tom, can you, how about this? What do you think the closest you've ever been to a Sasquatch is over the years? You do that window five feet. Oh wow. I was building cabins from my Indian tribe on a 250 acre island up in the Broke Narcobelago, my traditional territories off Northeastern Vancouver Island, mouth and eyes inlet for anyone who wants to pinpoint it. Compton Island, C-O-M-T-O-N, Compton Island. And I told my crew, two native distant cousins, you guys go to the outhouse together. Chonochas on the island right now. When it's Northwest, they're standing down there watching us. Southeast grew up on that rock bluff. I went and looked and seen the grass down over there and up there. All the twigs are pulverized, the pulp, because of so much activity up there. And looking from there, my cousins said, are you sure? Show me. So we went over and said, grab that milk crate, two foot by two foot plastic milk crate. So I went to where we had a tarp up with all of our building equipment and lumber. So it didn't get wet. I said he's been standing here behind his tree. Put that crate down, stand on it. You're now over seven feet. What do you see? Our flipping picnic table. He's watching us while we're sitting at our picnic table between the cabins. I'm like, yep. I said, let's go to the other deck. What do you see? Our bedroom window at our picnic table. I'm like, yeah, there. I said, I think that's who's stealing my apples and my garlic from the metal lockbox where our food is. We had an outdoor kitchen. And I knew it wasn't my cousins because I said there are three teeth Indians. Those two think they had six teeth between the two of them. So they ain't eat apples and they didn't like garlic in their crab butter. I do. So anyway, we put a glass upside down on the table where the kitchen is, garlic clove inside. John goes, hey, I'm going to get Pepsi. Anyone else want a Pepsi? I said, yeah, grab me one from the cooler because running back, the jar is empty. We all go running over there. It's not a half an hour. It's not even dark yet. And the car looks gone from the jar, but I stupidly grabbed it. I should have done like Hulu yesterday or the other day and been careful and brought it to the police and alert Bay to get fingerprinted. So we know there's a Sasquatch on the island. So I'm having a cigarette outside the cabin and just put a eight inch overhang in its drizzling. So I'm standing against that on what would be our beam for our future deck on the cabin. And I'm standing up my smoke and it's blowing Northwest from my right. All of a sudden the stick comes out of the forest from our old house trail and lands on the beach. I'm like, that's not right. So I jiggle my way to the edge of the beam, flip my cigarette to jump and turn 180. And there behind my cabin is the mouth of my outhouse trail. Me and a Sasquatch 30 feet away from each other. I lock and I'm like, get out of here. I could steal my garlic and apples and he turns and bolts. I run in the cabin Darcy's good pick it on the Sasquatch. I'm like, pick it on the Sasquatch scared of and he's scared me. I said, but he's a teenager. He's real lanky, skinny, maybe six, two, six, four somewhere in there. But you can tell he's chimpanzee brown face with a little bit of black. He's a youngster, a teenager. So then next night I'm like, okay, I'm going to get the SOB. So Darcy, me and him are staying in the same cabin. So I've opened the window on my side where the picnic table is and I put my gun out the window and I crawl out. Darcy, what are you doing? I'm like, shh, don't you dare come running out with that 30 30. No matter what happens, you only come out when I call you if I call you. I said, I'm going to go put the jig on that Sasquatch. I'm tired of him messing around, stealing our food and swine on us. And I said, besides that, John's home right now. He's scared to the Sasquatch and he might not come back to work. So anyway, I crawled through the ground, but we've been clearing brushes, dropping trees, raking leaves, and we have piles of debris piled up in the middle of October. And the leaves are falling and we're waiting for the end of October beginning of November, monsoon, so we can burn all the debris. So I'm crawling through all these berms, the leaves and branches and I get to the entrance of the trail to the outhouse area, and the interior of the island. It's a big old skitter track and hiking trail. And I slide into this pile of alder leaves like maple leaves that I deliberately piled up like five and a half feet tall. I crawl in there, I lean against the tree. I got my gun in my chest. I got my leaves all over my head, so I just got a little bit of gap under my brim of my hat and leaves on top looking out. I wasn't there half an hour. All of a sudden here comes that lanky black little SOB sneaking in the old trees and looking at my cabins and he reaches out with his left hand and he grabs an alder tree about that big silver bark. And he steps off the five foot berm because it's an old skitter trail onto the trail and I was in the leaves five feet away. He's looking at the back of my cabin and then all of a sudden I come shooting out of the leaves. Hey, what are you doing here SOB? And he just looked at me and grabs the tree, pulls it, it bends, he lets it go, as it whips, his leaves fall and he looks at me and goes, ha, ha, ha, ha. I jumped out of the leaves, ha, ha, and you get out of here and quit stealing my food. You learn respect and at Sasquatch went like a freight train busting branches and trees as he ran away and I'm laughing away, running the cabin, Darcy's, picking on the tuna cloths. Not picking on the tuna cloth, I want them to learn respect and quit stealing our food. This is our camp. 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Our, John shows back up with, we went and picked him up and our non native Indian carpenter to finish one of the last cabin deciding. And I'm telling them, I said, watch out, we got a, definitely got a Sasquatch on the island. I've seen him twice. Ah, you're full of it. No such thing as Sasquatch. And God, you guys think we're in Iraq or something, walking around with rifles. Like, dude, sit, you should have been here the last couple days. So anyway, he's working away and I'm doing my thing. And all of a sudden I had this feeling and I just looked, I looked up the bank through the older trees because the leaves are gone now and then through the standing hemlock. And there's like a hole in the hemlock line. And this big cedar stump I'd been to that was, you know, logged in 1927. And it's massive, probably 10 foot in diameter. And I'm looking, I'm looking, I don't want to remove my eyes. That's the worst thing to do with Sasquatch. I'm like, Darcy, go get me that scope for my rifle, the box. He comes over and gives it to me. I'm like, take the out of the box and crank it a three to nine power. It's not too smart Darcy. So I crank it up. He cranks it up and I lift it up and I put it on that stump. And there like me covered in older leaves is this huge daddy Sasquatch with shoulders like that staring at us. We're all passing scope around the white guy. Sorry, but no offense, but the white carpenter, he's like, hands up. The chief don't pay me enough for this. I'm out of here. He starts packing all his tools up and all of a sudden that Sasquatch just stood up leaves falling off it. And I'm looking at him and scope. He stood up, turned, walked away, put scope in the box. I looked at Darcy and John and I said, I think I just pissed higher up the tree than that daddy Sasquatch. I think they're going to leave now. Swim off the island. Peace. But the funny part was about 45 minutes later, I go Darcy, look, there's our carpenter with this big metal box full of tools. When we brought him in, me and Darcy took everything we could to carry it down the dock to the boat and then from the boat up the beach. That thing was heavy and here he is. He was scared. He was getting off that island. So that's probably the closest I've been to a Sasquatch five feet. Wow. That is extremely, extremely intense. That is hard to beat. I think in a lot of people I've talked to or I hear it from a lot of listeners, they're always asking, you know, I think they're trying to figure out if Sasquatch interactions are usually peaceful or if there's ones where they can be more aggressive and they can actually, you know, maybe cause harm to people, but you don't really hear a lot of those or maybe it's that you're not talking to the right people. Have you heard any of those where things just, it gets really, really off the rails, I guess you could say. Because you end up being a steaming turd or half a dozen in the forest and Sasquatch. So Sasquatch like eating beans, some of them human beings. That's why when the interview and research the names of Sasquatch and native languages and the translations, the English, cannibal from the mountains, cannibal giant of the forest from my tribe, cannibals from the bushes and so forth. The Indians are telling you something. We know what a Sasquatch is. Some of them are cannibals. So what are we telling you? Well, only a species that eats its own species can be termed the cannibal. Hence the other tribe Sasquatch. They're humans and I firmly believe that. They're humans at night. They're my Adam and Eve. I evolved to be smaller, hairless and I've lost my nocturnal vision. But still have stinky armpits when I don't bathe for a week because that's a reminence of my scent glands, just like every other human. So we come from Sasquatches taking the Andretol and everyone thinks it looks like Jesus Christ. It looks like a Caucasian off the banks of the Thames River 2000 or 200,000 years ago. But you darken up. You know, Jesus should look like he comes from Jalusel. Dark skin, dark hair, you know, not wavy hippie type look. The Andretol always looks like a European Caucasian. Put some hair and black skin on it. What does the Andretol look like now? Pronounce philtrum, the distance from the upper lip to the bottom of the nose. Big jaw, ridgelines on its eyebrows. And the Andretol, when you look at their skulls, you know, it's not conical, but it is a little bit. Less rounded than we are now. So put some hair and darken skin in the Andretol and you got a Sasquatch. So that's where we come from. So we know that the Andretol are cannibals. We know that every human race on all six continents, most of us practice cannibalism. I come from, how much I try, clan, society. And the Andretol, even motes that are dried up, archeologically dug in Europe and Eastern Asia, produce bones that were cracked for marrow, burnt, stewed. So even the Caucasian ancestors were cannibals back in the day. You can imagine how many iris got eaten because of the potato plague back in the day when everyone was starving. Any animal will do whatever they need to do and eat in order to survive in times of starvation. So we've all been cannibals at one time or another. Even the Andes when the plane crash took place, even in 47 in Northern Canada, the Inuit, when starvation went rampant during the wintertime. And that's why they moved all the Inuit into the Hamlets where they now are, because they couldn't fend for themselves out in the hostile Arctic, because most of their people had died from smallpox influenza and tuberculosis, like every other Indian, including Sasquatch. So when we look at cannibalism, Sasquatch is like me in 2008. 2007 I got sued for $640,000. Lost everything. My home, my $280,000 turbo, my $67,000 kayak fleet. Watched my bank accounts get garnished overnight for $84,000. And my wife at the time, the mother of my children, good thing she had a degree, she took a job up in Northern British Columbia offshore in Heidegwei, Queen Charlotte Islands, as a social worker. Eight months later, she pointed to the door and told me to get the beep out. The court case, losing everything, had destroyed our common law marriage. So I left. And when I was coming on the ferry with my Jeep Cherokee loaded with my Bush gear, fishing gear, carving tools, and native art books, I had one thing on my mind. I was going to go rogue, hunt down those two SOBs that sued me, and that would be the end of it. And when I pulled into Campbell River, I was on the verge of my postal snap. Like we hear about people putting a banana clip after they get garnished, she, child support court cases, can't see their children and go mow down everyone in the building. That's where I was. I wanted to go there. I wanted to go rogue Sasquatch. I wanted to go cannibal on those two SOBs that sued me. But when I pulled into Campbell River, hoaxing and building and driving my rage and fury into the deepest of dark red, because that's where I needed to be. I needed to be like buck buck wall and ooks away to cannibal from the north end of the world spirit. I needed to be possessed by them for what I was about to do. But when I pulled into Campbell River, a hotel that always has a quote every month from the Christian manager, it said, success is not, success is not defined on how how you reach. It's how how you bounce when you hit rock bottom. It took me about three or four hours until I let the rage go away from me. And I said, I ain't going to make a better choice. I'm going to bounce. And I've been bouncing ever since. But I know what it's like to get on that edge of being going postal. So when a Sasquatch gets toppled by a younger, more stronger male, because that's a creator's code, God, he loses his mate, loses his children, loses his clan, loses his territory. And some of them just go trumping and find a new wife to bump uglies with and have more children and develop a new clan and territory. But some of them, they go rogue, something snaps, they go postal, and they start killing for the fact of just the enjoyment of killing. I've seen the torn apart turkey carcasses, coyotes, deer, and smelling of carrying in and maggot covered because he didn't eat them. He was just killing them. And we beat feet and got out of there. I've seen the many, many Canadian geese killed with the goose killing stone that round. That's one of them from the killing fields where that rogue Sasquatch was killing geese and just killing them, ripping them apart. And I kind of suspect he was eating the heart in them, though, and the liver because those were missing. And so all of a sudden the rogue Sasquatch comes across berry pickers, shellfish diggers, mushroom pickers, hikers, and the human is the easiest and stupidest animal on this planet. They're easy to kill and harvest. I like eating beans. This tastes pretty good. That was an easy hunt. A lot better than going after deer and elk. No forns to spoke you. Kind of, they'd get burning eyes when they hit you with that spray, but boy, kind of made my meat taste a little better. So they go cannibal. And they learn that I like hunting humans. They're easy. They're tasty. And you can imagine the diverse diets that we have here in North America, how tasty we are. I probably taste like McDonald's because I eat a lot of McDonald's. But other people probably taste like tofu because that's what they eat. And other people probably eat like fish because they eat a lot of that. So you see what I'm getting at. So the Sasquatches that go rogue, they're psychotic hunter killers. And for them it's a beautiful place to be. Even our own hairless bipedal population, Hannibal to cannibal. See, that was fiction, but we know of the nonfiction Hannibal cannibals that the police have caught just in the United States and Canada in the last in my lifetime, since I was started watching news at about 15. So when you're in an area of a rogue, beat feet and get out of there. And they are evil. They are hunter killers. And we were three of us back to back one time shooting warning shots, pushing down to the beach because we got close to a group of Sasquatches that went right. Psychotic on us throwing things. And I've been in that situation a couple of times, you know, a lot of people are listening. I'm like, well, this guy has a lot in the county. There's a lot of encounters where you're using flush toilets and electricity and running water. I was living out in the bush sleeping in the hammock. If not, it was on a boat anchored out somewhere, but still going to shore deep in the bush. You're scouting for two weeks or more on end for Rizzley bears for my two hunt seasons every year all by myself. You know, me and my cousin used to get off on a boat or get dropped off. We'd go up a log and road beside a river through the timber, through the Alpine, through the ice field, come down the next Alpine, go through that timber out that drainage and then do it again. We were gone for months sometimes because current idea. I was able to go on top some mountains, put out my arms and spin. Why? Because I could. And that's how I got my encounters with Sasquatch. Yeah. I mean, that's the number one lesson which Uli and I just had a conversation about this stage. If you want to have a sighting, you got to put the hours out in the field. You got to get out there. That's how it's going to happen. One more thing about the Rogue Sasquatch. So what I'm getting from that then and let me know if I didn't get it right. Is the number one indicator that you're around a Rogue Sasquatch is finding like animals that are just torn apart or dead all over the place? Or are there other indicators as well? Well, if you do happen to come across the killing area, there's usually pockets. One, I noticed was close to the beach. This other killing field was upriver where the wolves and other animals were harvesting the salmon and shallow water. But generally what you're going to see is you're going to see that. And then all of a sudden it's going to do like a predatory bear. They're just going to look at you, fixate on you and come straight at you. And when that happens, as happened to McCussan Wayne and I when we were up in the Alpine Sasquatch come around and look outcropping. And we're in the Alpine Meadow. And we were probably 300 yards away from it and it stopped and we were in the upwind position so he could smell us. He was downwind of us. He just stopped, looked at us and all of a sudden he just started walking towards us. And he quit. Like, the Sasquatch liked to move their arms. They liked to walk all funky. But he just kept his arms on his side, leaned forward and he was just beating in on us. I looked at Wayne and I said, I ain't putting up with that. That's a rogue. And I just boom 12 gauge off in the air. He stopped, re-evaluated the situation and made a big scream, turned, walked up the mountainside. So, you know, they're out there, you know, and then, you know, David Pilates, my good friend, you know, missing 411. He made an empire out of all the missing people. And, you know, some of those people, natural causes, animals falling down, avalanches, whatever. But there's that small percentage that even with 25,000 plus missing people, if you put a percentage of 2% got taken out by Sasquatch. 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Thank you so much for spending some time with us and being able to answer some questions. It's not every day that we're able to talk to someone who has the knowledge that you are privy to. So, it's awesome to have you on. And I just want to remind people real quick that when do you consider the Bigfoot Museum to be open? Is it still in the planning stages? June 1st. Okay. We've got the casts coming in and are in. Got the Renata Virgalea. It's this question now. Peggy, my wife will be here in the weekend with our five gallons of paint to start painting the walls. Now, once I get the paint on, then I just got some, you know, me and Peggy are carpenters, so we'll start banging things together, putting things up. We own, Ken and Laurie, that own SasquatchLegend.com. They own Source One Plastics in Arizona and just outside of Phoenix and in Alabama. And they make plastic, plexiglass, everything. So, we're going to have like you see Cliff's Museum and others with plastic acrylic boards. Well, I'm making the designs. They're going to build them, ship them to me. And, you know, it's just a matter of putting them up with sprues and we'll have the museum open. I'm going to be there five days a week, if not more. If someone's phone says, I can only make it there Saturday, is any way Tom can be there at one o'clock. I will be there. You know, it's like going to Graceland and, you know, you come to Forks to the Sasquatch, biggest Sasquatch Museum and store in North America. It's like going to Graceland and Elvis ain't the mansion. You know, you want to see Elvis. So, if you come to Forks, I'm going to be in the back room. My worker will be out front doing the ice cream and not running the till and taking care of customers. And when you pay your fee for the museum, you're going to come in and I'm going to be back there to walk you through and explain everything. My encounters, I'm going to put wooden benches we own that are big live edge slab lumber. I'm going to put them out in front of Biggie, the eight and a half foot mannequin with all of the regalia beside it. There'll be a video because happy wife, happy life. I can't get my wife dancing regalia every day. She'll divorce me or shoot me. So we'll have a video there so I can turn it on and say this is a side of big house. This is the tunoha. This is the bekos. This is what this whole means. So it's, you know, it's something that it's going to be really unique. You know, you're going to be able to know I could only wish I could go to wherever Renee from finding Bigfoot lives. I think it's Seattle. Maria Mayor, even though I met her when I was on Discovery Channel's expedition Bigfoot season six and they're filming. I'm not a big fan of Bobo I've met, but I'd like to go to where he lives and others that are all Sasquatch celebrities, but to be able to go there and actually sit down and spend an hour, hour and a half chatter, chatter, chattering like Sasquatches with him about Sasquatch. That's bucket list. And that's what I'm going to give everyone the opportunity to you can come. I'm 60 years old. I smoke. I've had two art attacks. You know, you might want to buy my book where you're there or one of my autographs, whatever is because it's 15 to 20 years. When I'm pushing up daisies, they're going to be collectors items. You know, it's like that. Think you're here. You know, Bob Gimlin out of the goodness of his heart signed it. Right. That's a treasure to me forever. No, absolutely. This right here is the famous Sasquatch Island. Oh, yeah. You know, Tom Kutrell signature. Yeah. Dr. John Binderbinagle, Peter Byrne, you know, Dr. Jeff Meldrum. Wow. All the other living celebrities are on him and more to come. You know, they're running to you. I got to get you to sign it. Yeah. You know, that's what it's all about. We're Sasquatch celebrities. We have a role. We have a job to do. We have the honorable to our fans and we got to do like Russell Crowe in the gladiator after all done. Are you not at your James? Right. That's right. That's right. I love it. Yeah. That's Tomass. Right. Exactly. And one other thing I want to point out for the museum really specifically because some of the ultra big foot nerds will think this is cool. So we have alluded to it, but they're the things that Oolly brought over there in a way connected to Frank Keneester, which is you've heard about, I've talked about him on the show and I got to spend time with him last July and he passed away, which is so sad. He was taken very young through an accident, but that's the only museum you're going to be able to see that stuff connected with Frank. And so it's going to be a very special place. I need to get over there to see it. But Tom, is there anything else that you'll want to remind listeners of how they can keep up to date with what you're doing before we end our time today? Well, if anyone has anything to want to donate to the museum, I'll be happy to put it up and have a name and everything like Frank. He's, I told Oolly, I need a picture of you and Frank or just Frank and I want to have an area that's in commemoration and honor of him for you and him donating these pieces. But the main thing is Sasquatch to legend.com. We have a vast online store. I know most people can't make it to Forks, but if you're interested in anything Sasquatch or Twilight, because we have a big Twilight section and go on it. SasquatchLegend.com, order away all of you want. I have one guy I was like, really? He goes, you know, the two shirts that you're going to package for me, could you like videotape it so I have to bring my selfie stick and mount it up. And here's me, packaging things and putting his stickers in there because we give everyone half a dozen free stickers in the business card. And you know, it's kind of weird, but that's what he wanted. He wanted to say Tom Seeward, package my stuff I bought. Good stuff. Good stuff. I'll have links to all Tom's stuff in the show notes and in the description for this episode. But Tom Seeward, thank you so much for spending some time with us today. We'll have to keep in touch with you in the future to see what comes up next for you. Oh yeah. Get me on for another episode. Talk about the conspiracy, but the government's Sasquatch. I thank everyone for listening in my language. Allocula isla. Go on peace. Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity around Oak Ridge, Oregon? And you think to yourself, man, I would love to get out in those woods and experience it for myself. Well, guess what? This year you can. If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July 10th through the 11th, 2026. It's going to be even better than the previous year's. Reason number one, I'll be one of the speakers. It's going to be wild. I'll probably, I'll say this, there may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else because let's just say sometimes it's, well, you just got to be there. We'll leave it that. More about looking for bigfoot in the Oak Ridge woods. Now check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary series, Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can not only go to the festival, but you can also sign up for a trek deep in the wild forest outside of Oak Ridge with Jason Kenzie to the big foot spots to look for big foot. There's only eight spots to sign up for this. And yes, this will also be filmed for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal. It's just trust it's going to be a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket head on over to SasquatchSummerFest.com and listeners can use the code BSP, like Bigfoot Society Podcast, in order to get a two day pass for the price of a one day pass. So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so that you guys can get a little help with the cost there. Appreciate that Priscilla. I hope to see you at the booth in Oak Ridge this year. We can talk about your encounter. I was able to talk to so many people last year and the year before. It is an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it and I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. 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