Traitors Finale Reaction, Zendaya & Tom Holland Married?? + Tyler Cameron Interview

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Microsoft Copilot will really help you navigate it all so you can get back to your best work and cut through all that clutter it's great exactly and you can learn more at microsoft.com slash m365copilot we are back back back back again oh oh I thought that Rhea and Fran Fran are back again okay i messed up i will i wasn't sure if you were going um miss mary mac that's exactly what it sounded like huh yeah but you but then it also kind of like m&m like it had a little m&m in there too oh yeah i was going m&m okay yeah but completely i thought you were going i thought it was um miss mary mac mac mac but yeah that's why you were doing that's exactly what i sounded like way more than m&m but yes we are back we were in Turks and Caicos this weekend yes my god did we have a fantastic time we did it's just you know it's such a beautiful place basically ran back the exact same trip we did last year which we were so happy to do and you know So sun, sand, ocean. Food, drinks. Great food. Great restaurants. Good times. Great laughs. Had by all. I feel like people expect us to come in with, like, some crazy recap, but, like, nothing crazy happened besides having just a fantastic time. No, just fun time, fun giggles. Really, what, and it was my ideal vacation where it's like, you know, you don't have crazy big plans at night. you're sitting on the beach all day you get a yummy dinner maybe a drink afterwards we the four of us really got into playing imposter after dinner every single night we just like all played imposter which was a ton of fun it was so fun um but it was it was so nice and you know we went we stayed at the at the same resort we went back to the waimara and it was all like the same people working and everything so it's like nothing had changed from last year when we went just like saw all of our favorite people again and you know we have so much fun on vacation and Joe cracks me up because anytime we leave a place he's always saying to the staff yeah we'll be back like can't wait to see you next time and most of the places we haven't returned to yeah except this one we were back and they were all like oh Mr. Joe you're back yeah oh you know it was that was just it's just fun it was It was nice to be welcomed back. Exactly. See some familiar faces. Yes. Yeah, we really did have a great time. You know, one night really got away from me. In terms of drinking, waking up, feeling like, whoa. Oh, I had a blast. What was the cigarettes? Shut the fuck up. He posted a picture of me smoking his cigarettes. Oh, people can put two and two together. I had far too many cigarettes one night. I've never seen you do that before. I've never seen myself do it before. Who are you smoking with? Who do you think? Fran's husband. Who of the four of us, who do you think? Joe and I were going sig for sig at one point, and I have never. It was just the vibes, you know, the drinks were flowing. The thing is, we were playing imposter. Imposter can be a stressful game. That would be more fun to be smoking. Yeah, and, you know, when you're the imposter, or you have a cigarette in your hand, you know, it's just a little bit easier. You just never know. You just never know. But, no, it was really a ton of fun. And my husband ended up getting sun poison. Oh, you are. You're mentioning it. I feel bad because he was so sad on the last day. You know, he put on sunscreen and everything, but the five to ten minutes he sat out there with nothing on really snuck up on him. Like, the first two days it was fine, but it, like, settled in. It was like a delayed sun poisoning. And his eyes got all swollen. His eyelids were burnt. They were burnt up. It's truly like the ten minutes he laid outside with his eyes closed, just soaking it all in day one. It couldn't have backfired. And it caught up to him like two days later. We're eating and we're drinking and we're doing the whole thing. It's not like he's in the shade just drinking water, you know? Yeah. And I felt so bad. He was so upset because the last day he was down and out. But we were like, just in case we thought it wasn't tongue poisoning, confirmed it absolutely was because we went to this lovely restaurant, the Marine Room, which is so good in Turks. You have to go if you're there. Yes. And somebody asked to take a picture with us. It was a group shot. And they posted the picture on their Instagram story. And in this picture, you could just so clearly see that Matt had a case of sun poisoning. Yeah, you know, he looks like a cherry tomato. I felt so bad for him. And he's also, he flew from Turks to Arizona to do some stuff, some baseball stuff, which is really exciting. But I felt so bad. Oh, God. He's going to be peeling like a motherfucker. Oh, yeah. I'm like, you've got to moisturize up. And then we're going to be in Florida at the end of the week. Oh, my gosh. I know, I know. He's like, I'm saying. He's like a sun shirt. I know, I know. Going to dress him up like a little kid going to the beach, you know? Literally. But, no, he will be packing on the sunscreen, but we're going to Florida because I haven't seen my parents since Christmas Eve. And if I don't go to see them this weekend, I won't see them until the end of April. Right, because then we're traveling. Yeah, and also my in-laws as well. So we're going to see both our parents this weekend, which will be nice in Florida. But he will be bundled up. For real. I'm jealous. I wish I was doing that, too. But I've got to go home. Yeah. We've been going and going. We've just got to go home, you know? Yeah. And I was thinking, too, because I was like, oh, you're so right. And you guys are going to have a blast. But we come back. Then we're going to the West Coast next week. Our tour kicks off this week. We're so excited. We're in Charlotte. So excited. tomorrow, Tuesday, can't wait to see everybody and I'm so excited to talk to Sally and Molly too because Southern Charm has been getting so good it got really crazy this week yeah, we'll talk about it later in the episode but it's going to be a ton of fun but no, we had a great time, it was a blast and lots of laughs we had some lovely people, I have to say some of our listeners that we ran into so much fun, it seemed like everyone was having a great time on vacation as well truly, it's such a great place how could you not, you know It is, and it just, it really is a great, like, couples trip place as well. It is. There's so many great places to relax but also have fun, like, you know, the conch shack. Yeah. You got music and dancing and just yummy food all around, great vibes, and I feel like, I feel well rested. Yeah. And ready to go. I do, actually, despite really, like, not wanting to leave. No. No. You know when you just think like, oh, one more day. You just would have done the trick when you're leaving a vacation. Like, just one more day. And I really do think one more. Like, four full days. We'll know for next time. Yeah, we'll tack on that extra day next year. Yeah, when you guys start to listen to us and each day this trip gets one day longer. It's also really funny, like, when we run into people and they're like, you guys here for work? And we're like, no, we just vacation together as well. Are you recording from here? No. No. Just vacay. Nope, nope, nope. Just lounging and having a good time. I did see people ask, though, a lot of ladies in the DMs asking about, you know, if they should go on their honeymoon there. They're looking for an island to go to for their honeymoon, things like that. It really depends on what kind of trip you're looking for. Right, if you're looking for just a lay on the beach with some beautiful freaking water all day, then Turks is a great place. Because, my gosh, that water is so damn blue, and it's just so lovely there. It's just so refreshing. But it's not much of, you know, later evenings. I feel like most places, like restaurants and stuff, close on the earlier side. And, sure, there are places to go out if you want, if you really want to. but it's not like a crazy nightlife, I feel like. And I don't know. I don't know. Most people may not want that on their honeymoon. Or you want a mix. Maybe some, you want half and half. Some sort of mix. Which could work, too. Good call about you, because one night we were, you know, at a restaurant, had some drinks after at the bar, and you were like, we got to get a cab home. And I was just like, doo-doo-doo-doo-doo, like living, you know. we're at another hotel I was like guys I don't think like after a certain point me, Matt and Joe were just in our own world still like playing imposter friends like guys guys we gotta get home how are we gonna get home from here and I was like wait what? did we get home? it did take a little while it did take a while literally the next day I was like friends thank god you said something we would have been stranded so yeah it's not like a it's not like a stay open late no place no but that was now what we were looking for No, no, no. On this trip. So we had a ball. We did watch Traders together. We did. On Fran's iPad. Yep. Couldn't get it on the TV. No. But had it on my iPad where the four of us all laid in bed and watched it. On a very tiny screen. Yes. At the foot of the bed. And let me tell you, it worked. It did. It did what it had to do because we were able to watch Thursday night. Exactly. We were not delayed. But didn't post about it on my story or anything because I didn't want to spoil it for other people. Yeah, yeah. And it was also just like, I don't know, we had watched later, too, and some people had seen it, not seen it. And with the finale, I kind of wanted to give a more, you kind of want to give a more in-depth thought. Yes. Discussion. Which we will do. Which we will do later on in this episode. Yep. Noah, how was your big trip to Nashville? Enjoy your time away from us? I wouldn't say that, but it was a good trip. It was a quick one night. Went to Nashville, Tommy and I, and it was fun. You only went for one night? Yeah, it was just like an event, a barstool event that was happening at the Barstool Bar. So we went Thursday. You didn't want to extend? It never crossed my mind, to be honest. It never crossed your mind to extend for a boyfriend? Honestly, I had told my parents that I was coming home, and then that came up. So then I just, I was like, oh, I'll come home on Friday. but uh i feel like nashville i mean it would have been fun too but yeah uh it's also like i'm fine with one one night's fine yeah one night in nashville kind of does it right like i'm not like a big like bender guy so if i drink a lot like one night like i don't know how i'm gonna feel for the rest of the weekend um but it was fun and yeah then i went home and i actually went to uh uh a kennel like where they keep all the dogs that are up to be fostered or adopted yeah and it's like the saddest thing ever yeah it's just like all these dogs that like are so happy when you come in but they're just like in these like tiny little cages and yeah but that was we were picking up like a foster for my my mom's new foster um but yeah if you're interested in dogs Let's go to A New Chance. There's plenty of dogs. Aw. But, yeah, that was my weekend. That looked like a very – what's the new foster's name? Chewy. There were three dogs – or three of the dogs they named after Star Wars. So he's Chewy after Chewbacca. There was Vader after Darth Vader. And then I forget the other one named – something Star Wars related. Yeah. Muddy Paws had – you know, Saturday they do their adoption events in the city. and my god this Saturday it just seemed like they had an influx of puppies like sometimes they just have more puppies than other weeks and I was just watching their story it was just puppy after puppy they were so cute there was a Mario, a Luigi, and Peach and I showed Joe and I was like uh oh there were two dogs at the kennel one was named Taylor Swift and one was named Travis Kelsey aww that's cute they do a good job with the names you know to like always maybe something current get people creative get people excited so um well i'm excited excited your mom has a new foster that's always fun um yeah i was fully if you saw me i was like drenched in mud like after we left there because all the foster dogs like we would take them for a walk outside and it was just all muddy because all the snow was melting and my entire like yeah all my clothes were gone so we're getting down dirty yeah but well it seems like Have you had a nice weekend? A little bit of fun? I'm sure you guys miss me. We did. The whole time we were talking about that. What's Noah doing right now? We were like, oh, we wish Noah was here. Fuck. We are traveling, though, today together to Charlotte. Our show is in Charlotte tomorrow night. And the tour begins. And we can't wait to see you guys there. We've got a couple of exciting guests that we will be announcing soon. More guests. More shows. Tickets are still on sale. Reminder to bring your signs if you're coming to a show. Because we want to see the creativeness that you guys have and bring to these signs. Yes. And we always have a fun little thing that we do with the signs at the show. So can't wait to see you guys there. And let's get into the rest of today's episode. We have a great interview with Tyler Cameron. Oh, I did want to mention this. And we weren't going to make it full topic. But now that we're here, I was waiting for you to bring it up. I didn't know if you were. I was going to have to re-bring it up. Okay. this shook me up this weekend. Jim Carrey. Yeah. I'm trying not to be insensitive to whatever is happening. Well, I just am confused. Because I am. Seriously, like, I have chills about it. It's freaking me out. I know I may be being dramatic about this, but this is exactly how I felt when I first saw the videos, is that I didn't know how to act or respond. I'm gripping tightly to the chair. Yeah. Because is this him or not him, and why does he look this way if it's him? Yeah, it's unfortunate because it probably is him, which is sad because everybody thinks it's not him. but there's been a lot of discussion about it because as you can see if you watch him on the carpet and the award he was at an award show accepting an award for the the caesar awards they saw i don't know it's french that was that was french i like that from that yes um and the person who like runs the awards was saying oh this has been playing for months he's been practicing his french like all of these things that make you think it was him and it's like oh the the person that was there's emotional all these things but you just look at him and you're like what happened what happened because it looks like He either got a lot of work done, something of the sort. Everybody was freaking out because his eyes seemed to be different colors. It's like they're going back and finding old clips of him and pictures of him. He's got dark eyes. And now all of a sudden he's got these light eyes, lighter eyes, I guess, in this. And then it really threw everybody for a loop because Alexis Stone on social, big drag makeup artist, posted that it was really him dressed up as Jim Carrey. And then that threw everybody off. But then everyone in the comments is like, this is so clearly AI. Like, come on, people. Use your brains. Like, it's not, but then he keeps posting all these prosthetics, and you're like, wait, I'm so confused. I'm so confused. That's really all I have to say about this whole thing. Did you see this, Noah? Yeah, I always lean toward, like, I don't think it's a clone. I don't think it's, like, someone else. No, not a clone. I'm, like, looking up, it's, like, people are literally, like, no, not, like, clone. like like it's someone impersonating him or like whatever like an av Levine situation um oh but i just i just don't see that just seems so unless this is some bit that jim carrey's doing where he's in on it and he's gonna be like look i got you that wasn't me i know i don't think so either i think it's him i think he just got a lot of work done yeah like it hasn't been that long it's not he's been out of that public eye for like a while i feel like like that's a lot of work to be so this guy from the award show this is he's a general delegate of the of the awards says the actor's rare appearance at the ceremony where he received the honorary award um was authentic and a historic moment and a statement sent to variety on monday he calls the outlandish rumors a non-issue and spoke about the preparation that went into carrie's tribute as well as the star's dedication to learn his entire speech in French. Jim Carrey's visit has been planned since the summer. From the outset, he was extremely touched by the Academy's invitation. Eight months of ongoing constructive discussions. He worked on his speech in French for months, asking me about the exact pronunciation of certain words. He came with his partner, his daughter, his grandson, and 12 close friends and family members. His longtime publicist accompanied him. His old friend, Michael Gontry, who has made a film and two series with him was there, and they were delighted to see each other again. For me, it's not an issue. I just remember his generosity, his kindness, his benevolence, his elegance. Okay, that's just, like, great and all, but that doesn't explain why, like, what's happening with what he looks like. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, but I think it's kind of like a... Like this, like, they're like, we don't care. Yeah, back off, like, it wasn't him. And that's not why he's here. The focus shouldn't be on what he looks like. Yeah, yeah. Although it is. Well, then the Alexis Stone posting just gets everybody all up in a tizzy thinking that it is something because there's been so many transformations from them on Instagram of things that they've done and prosthetics and characters. There's, if you look at the Instagram, it's crazy. There's somewhere all of a sudden he's Donatella Versace. Like, it's like, it's crazy, crazy, crazy prosthetics that he works with. And he has a whole, all of his highlights are different people. And this whole one of Jim Carrey really throwing people off. it's been sent almost 400,000 times this guy's post i don't blame i don't blame that yeah because i think we're all confused trying to find out the answer here right i mean it's still like look you know like he's obviously different but what's different between this or like bradley cooper getting like a facelift like this happens all the time i think it was because the initial video that we saw was a side by side that he looked so different that i was like oh i was i was shaken up when you see the pictures it's not as i think yeah as bold than the original video that i saw that i was like what the what yeah yeah that's like a totally different human yeah but then when you see the pictures you're like okay he got worked on yeah i also think you see people like when you see someone out all the time it's just like when you see somebody in your in your everyday life they pop out with a new face and you don't necessarily notice because you're like oh i see them every day and not that we see bradley cooper every day but he's out and about a lot more than jim carrey is yeah despite bradley cooper also claiming he Hasn't gotten any work done. It's like when Zac Efron, that whole thing happens. You don't know what's going on. His face looks different. Yeah. The eyes thing is what really threw me off. Because I feel bad at maybe whatever. Maybe it is some plastic surgery or something that he's done. I don't know what. But the eyes thing really threw me off. They are totally different colors. Being different colors. Maybe he's wearing contacts. Maybe. Maybe he wanted to just change it up the look totally. I don't know. But it's crazy. It is crazy. It is. It really is. Because then you kind of feel bad, especially reading that guy's description of him preparing for so long to do this show. And he was so excited to get this award and brought all of his family. And now everyone's like, that's a clone. Right. You're like, uh-oh, that's not even Jim Carrey. Everyone's like, that's a clone. Although, would that be Jim Carrey's biggest scotcha ever? It could be. Could be. Could it be. So, I don't know. I really have no, I can't say. I've never really been more confused about something. I know. He's the most confused I've been about something in a while. I think we just need to choose to believe that it is Jim Carrey and Jim Carrey got worked on. Yeah. And he worked a lot on his French as well. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. He put in the work for that. Anyways, moving on. Maybe we'll get the answer soon enough or maybe we don't. And we'll just continue to see Jim Carrey like this. But we do have a great rest of today's episode. We got Tyler Cameron on today's episode. We have the Actor Awards. We got our Traders Recap. We got a big old weekly watch report, and we're going to get into it now. Let's do it. Let's talk about Batiste, the award-winning number one dry shampoo brand. It's number one in the U.S. and number one in the world. You can instantly refresh your hair with Batiste. 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Just like Jim Carrey. It's not a bad name change. No. I think it makes a lot of sense. Actor awards, it's decided by your fellow actors. And it sounds better than a SAG award. It's not a SAG, SAG-y. Yeah. You know? It's just like SAG is just not a great word. SAG. And still on Netflix, hosted by Kristen Bell. and, you know, she did a whole, like, musical number about stage names and changing names, which made a lot of sense. The logistics of the opening number made a lot of sense. It's like, oh, the award show got a name change. So we could joke about name changes and people that changed their names and stage names and all these things, which all make sense. the execution wasn't great because unfortunately some of the names that they did come up with just weren't funny right no it was a really good idea the idea was good i am so with you i thought it was a great idea i was like oh funny bit yeah but then the names that they were trying to get me with teddy dandard is not going to make you laugh you know teddy dandard is so bad that it might make me laugh like that's that's the level that it was on yeah it was like this is such a horrific joke that yeah i'm laughing also the jacob alordi one i didn't really understand or tiana taylor t-tay oh is that supposed to be titty yeah i don't know t-tay maybe now that one word now that i'm saying it it sounds like i'm saying t-tay yeah it does it does which still is not good that yeah I don't know, could have been funnier or could have been done in more of like a roasty manner, maybe. Or also done more in like a, because they kind of joked about it with people that had already changed their name. You know, oh my God, like Emma Stone was Emily Stone, you know. But like, I'm sure there are plenty of other people in the room that have changed their name in some way. Yeah, some of them were mentioned. Some of them were mentioned. But I feel like maybe like that could have been more of the focus. I was choosing to just take in Kristen Bell's fabulous voice. Yes. And how lovely she sounds, like, you know, like a Disney princess. She is. Yes. And. That's what I'm like, you know what, think? Like, I'm never, when I see somebody's like, you know what, here we got an opening number and it's a song, you kind of, your immediate reaction is, uh-oh. But for her, I'm like, oh, good. I'm like, I'm glad your opening number is a song. She's using her strength. Yeah. Yeah. Now, we hit the Ted Dandotter not once, but twice. Multiple times. Yeah. Uh-huh. Which made it difficult. Yeah. Because then we started playing ping pong. Yeah. And it was, then Ted Dandotter was there again. Yes. Teddy Dandotter. Teddy Dandotter. And the more we say it, the more giggly I'm going to get about it. Well, because it's also something where you kind of think, you know, a stage name is normally something I feel that, or nickname, something that's shortened. Ted Danson to Teddy Dandotter is a mouthful. But, yeah, I don't know. I don't know why I was so hyper fixated on that one specifically, but I guess because it just was brought up multiple times. That one was specifically bad. It was, and it was used often. But other than that, I felt like it was a fun show. it moved it's on netflix so felt like more uh limited commercial breaks um page sorbo hosted the carpet co-hosted the carpet on netflix she looked stunning and i thought she did a fantastic job yes that's so good i would be so nervous in the best way because it's such an awesome opportunity and and such a fun thing to do but first time really like being streamed on netflix like that for a major award show is a big one it is huge and i thought she was fantastic so good she looked absolutely beautiful and it is such a cool job and opportunity to get just like absolutely crushed after composure asked good questions you got to talk to a lot of great people I love that there was also a dress code for the carpet. It was, you know, holiday, Hollywood glamour, 1920s, 30s. And I felt like you saw a lot of that in everybody's outfits, looks, jewelry. Some fantastic jewelry on people. Some of these necklaces. Viola Davis' necklace. Oh, my goodness. Was that something. I was loving a lot of looks last night. I think Morgan Stewart's Instagram story was cracking me up last night. She was posting just pictures of everyone's looks. She's brutally honest. She is. I hate this. So much. I love this so much. And it was fun to keep up with. I will say, though, my overall winner of the night was Seth Rogen. Because I felt like Seth Rogen had a big night last night. Not only did he win himself, actor. Yep. He also accepted the award for Catherine O'Hara on her behalf and gave such a lovely speech. I mean, the things that he said were just fabulous to really capture somebody who is no longer here. The words he used to describe her, I was so moved by it. I thought he did such a lovely job. It is not an easy task to get up there and, you know, speak the words for somebody who just held so much, you know, weight amongst these people in the room. And I felt like he did just that, you know. Yeah, I agree. I thought he honored her in a great way through a little, you know, a little joke in there about how she would send emails rewriting scenes for the studio. and just reminding everybody that if you're unfamiliar with her work or you know some perhaps younger folks that aren't familiar with her work, to show it to them because she was such a talent. I loved what he said about being able to be a genius and kind at the same time. Yeah. And one does not take away from the other. And I was like, that is so true. because you get a lot of assholes out there that will just say, you know, oh, well, they're so talented and they're such a genius and whatever, but they're a big asshole. And that just, like, excuses them. And it doesn't because you can still be an extremely kind person. And he said that she was. And I thought that was really sweet and just great all around. So he was one of my big winners of the night last night. Definitely. On top of that, Michael B. Jordan. Michael B. Jordan getting the recognition that he deserves, winning Best Male Actor. Even all the other nominees were hyped for him. Everyone just erupted out of their seats. Viola Davis presenting. She was fired up. She was fired up, as she should be. Just awesome. And you can tell how moved Michael B. Jordan was winning. Really, I couldn't agree more. and it also was so nice seeing them win for ensemble cast as well. The cast is so fantastic. And I do think, and they talk about it on the carpet, and they talk about it throughout the show, that this specific award show, they all seem to really love, because it's not some foreign entity or critics or people that they don't really. It's like who makes up these people? It's all the crazy campaigning and all these things that people do for the Oscars and everything. It's like this is voted on by your fellow actors, and I feel like that means a lot to the people I know. Like Noah Wiley was really hitting home with that too for the Pitt winning and him winning as well. and just like I think it just means even more. And it's so interesting because it really just opens up the feel for the Oscars. I saw a graphic on social really of who's won the awards at all the different shows we've had so far, and it's been quite the mix. The only one that has been a sweep is Jesse Buckley. So it's very interesting. It's going to be very interesting to see what happens at the Oscars. But I'm just so happy for the cast of Sinners. I think that the movie was so fantastic. They should be honored for all their work. I know we just had the – we were – when was the Baptist? Last weekend? We all saw what happened at the Baptist. And I felt like getting their moment and winning for Sinners in this way was so fantastic. And I loved hearing Delroy speak as well on behalf of the cast. And Miles Kanter had a great experience. Miles Bang, he sounded amazing. That was beautiful. What a voice. Oh, my God. What a voice on that kid. It is, it's incredible. So it's just, I thought it was a really great show. Yeah, I thought so, too. I thought there were some funny moments as well. You know, it seems, it's so funny because I love seeing everyone's different opinions about all the award shows they go to. Like when Seth Rogen got on stage and he was like, this is a fun award show. He's like, there's food, there's drinks and shit. There's things working. Yeah. And I'm like, it's just an inside look as to what award shows could be like. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Totally. So I don't know. I am so intrigued to see what happens. I'm not going to be able to find that graphic again because it was something that just showed up on my suggested. my suggested thing on what happens for Beth Ackham. People are like, Timothee Chalamet's fallen into the Leo thing now, where, like, because he was supposed to be, like, a lock, it seems, and now they're like, oh, they're going to make him, if he doesn't win, like, they're going to make him wait, like they made Leo wait for an Oscar. You know what, though? I'm, like, I don't know. I'm okay with anybody who wins in that category. I feel like, it's just interesting, Because I think Leo's out of the conversation now, which is different than what it was. I think early on when we were going into the award show, we thought, award season, it was like, ooh, Timothy, Leo, who's it going to be? Because that seemed to be the conversation. But now is it, oh, is it Michael? Is it Wagner? Yeah. I'm thinking it's a toss-up between Michael B. Jordan and Timothy Shalman for the Oscar. I'm pulling for Michael, personally, because I just love that movie. And when you remember that he played two characters. Yeah, I mean, he's so good. He's just so good. I watched both. I watched both again recently because Joe had not seen them, Sinners and Marty Supreme. So we watched them both, like, in the last few weeks. And he's so good. I mean, Tiffany's fantastic in this as well. But just, it's one of those years where it's like those are two, three. I think Leo is also fantastic. fantastic performances where pretty content with whoever takes it home. And it's almost like recency bias like when you re-watch one of the movies and the next day you're like this person should win and then you watch another one and you're like this person should win. I haven't even seen it. I haven't watched the other so I'm like if I could watch those I mean maybe she's going to eat them all. Right. I do feel like that's why because Marty Supreme came out at the very end of the year where people were like it was like right before award season where everyone's like oh where she was so good but like The Senators came out so early in the year that they kind of forgot how good it was. And then when you re-watch Senators, you're like, fuck, he was so good. But, yeah, because, like, the Baptists, like, Timothy didn't win at the Baptists either. So, people, those are, like, the two industry awards. So, they're like, that could be telling. I know. People like to say that the Baptists and the Oscars have more of a correlation, right? Yeah, like, I think just the Baptists and the Actor Awards now because those are, like, they call them industry awards because, like, those are people in the industry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not like critics voting. Right, right, right. So like you win those. So interesting. I guess we'll see. I mean, and then we had Harrison Ford won the, you know, Life Achievement Award, which also another time, you know, brings a tear to your eye. I thought it was such a beautiful speech. And he's just, he's so fantastic. Some ups and downs for Woody Harrelson. I feel like there's some jokes that maybe didn't land, with the crowd i gotta be honest i think i fell asleep oh my god you missed it yeah you gotta go really gotta go back and watch it because it was like it got to the point where he finally did and it'd be like all right like time for harrison ford to come up on stage and he was like i hope no one asked i hope he was like i hope none of my actor friends ever asked me to do this again yeah i was able to watch it like i saw michael b jordan and everything win this morning um but there was a good chunk that I oh so I fell asleep around you know what you did because you stopped answering my text and you definitely missed this whole part I fell asleep at like nine yeah yeah you definitely you definitely missed this whole part um yeah he was trying to make a lot of jokes and then there was like a chuckle he was like oh tough crowd tough crowd and then and then people would laugh but you know he talks it's sort of just like a ramble yeah so he started of rambling and it kind of went back and forth from him being serious and then trying to make a joke and then you were trying to decipher what was a joke and what wasn't and he kept like naming other people but naming other people as a joke I don't know there were some confusing parts did you watch the whole thing no I didn't watch the whole thing no yeah so it was it it went back and forth it was funny that he was like please god nobody ever asked me to do this again like I you know tell me out of yeah he laughed about that but it was you know he was happy that he was even asked to do it for for Harrison Ford he made a joke about like just being on the podium of like his famous friends to do this which not you know didn get as big of a laugh as I think he hoped hence him being like tough girl Yeah once the laughs don start rolling in it can be a quick downhill spiral Yeah, exactly, exactly. But here's a poor speech was beautiful. Go back and listen to it because it was really, I thought, fantastic from him honoring the people he's worked with and those who helped him along the way and just the different opportunities and projects he's gotten to do and how he's tried to live his life. It was a really beautiful speech. I'll have to go back and watch it. I thought that Meg Salter was really funny. She crashed me up. You can tell Gene Smart and Hannah Eibinder were cracking up. Yeah, yeah. They understand. And then it pans to Gwyneth Paltrow, and Gwyneth Paltrow is just like, shaking her head but like with with a slight smile at the same time um i thought that part was really funny yeah i agree at this point i feel like those two get to do so much at award shows because hacks is always nominated because they're all so fantastic that it's like everybody else at the award show has got to be onto it now to think oh here's here's these two from hacks again you know you gotta you gotta be you gotta be prepared they do and they were they were very funny and meg and page were very funny at the carpet too that like had me that had to be laughing yeah she's hysterical it's you you you really never know what you're gonna get when you're when you're talking to her i love that she commits yeah she commits so hard on that yeah in front of all these like some of them may be a little snooty and they're like yeah i don't know what's going on right now but when you just commit because you know your your people are gonna love it and laugh yeah and then it's very funny totally on top of all of that we got law roach on the carpet confirming that zendaya and tom holland already got married yeah like we missed it they already got married he said you missed it we'll never see it we'll never see it i want to pray that zendaya and tom gave him the go-ahead to confirm that they got married on this carpet right i don't see that no chance i i don't think so because i don't think he would have said it in like a and like he was like walking away from the interview no but he said it in another interview as well so i'm wondering if like he maybe said to Zendaya, like, what if I get asked about your wedding dress? Like, what should I say? And Zendaya's like, just say it already happened. You know, like, I'm wondering if there's a world where maybe that conversation happened. Or, because she was seen with a gold band on her. Yeah, I was saying maybe she was asked about the ring. So maybe. If he was asked about the ring. He was like, Zendaya, what do I say if I'm asked? And she's like, just confirm it. Yeah, right. Because in what world do these two still? It's like when I said, like, when I jokingly said, like, if you want, like, all the exclusive pics from Rhea's wedding, like, I'll be releasing them. Yeah. Everyone was, like, messaging you. Yeah. Not me. Like, Noah's like, I'll be Diplo in the back on Instagram Live as Rhea walks down the aisle. I can't imagine that. I'm being like, look, here, here are all the pictures. As Zendaya is so private. Yeah. And Law knows that. I can't imagine a world where. Right. He just says this without knowing it's okay that he says it. They do have a good – they have such a good relationship. They work so closely together. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I would like to think that you're right as well, but I would also – I also kind of think that when you have a friend like that, that just kind of slides by the seat of their pants sometimes, like you don't know what they're going to say, you're just kind of used to it. So you're like, ah. That's a big one, though. No, it is, but it's like, you know, I think, I think you kind of know if Law was involved in the wedding in some way. In the back of your mind, you're like, maybe you're, maybe all their inner circle jokes, you know, it's only a matter of time before Law lets it slip. But you know all the people who were, I don't know how many people were at their wedding, but there were a lot of people. A lot. Still, there's a lot more than Law Roach that, like, there's plenty of people. They told the people at their wedding, don't talk about the wedding because it hasn't been talked about. Here's the thing. We don't know a single detail about this wedding. It could have been 12 people. Like, we have no, like, they could have, we have absolutely no idea. All family and La Roche. But here's the thing. Like, La might have just, from the standpoint of, like, helping her style herself for the wedding. Like, it's not like La was maybe just there as a guest. He was probably working in some capacity. There was a previous interview that he answered, like, oh, you know, about her wedding dress. And he was like, it'll be fabulous and you won't see it. Like, you'll never see it. So, and that was prior. So that's why I'm thinking, like, maybe Law Roach is one of those friends. I saw Giggly Squad talk about this recently. Like, Law Roach is one of those friends that you tell Law knowing he'll tell people. Yeah. Like, Zendaya and Tom are like, we want this out there. Let's look in my law. flip it out there somehow because we don't want to confirm we don't want to put out a spread but if law says we're married then people will know because like you said she was seen with the gold band which everyone was like ooh did she switch out her engagement ring or does this mean that they sneaky got married somewhere all I know is I couldn't be happier for these two I fucking love these two together I have loved them from the beginning they are my favorite spidey duo and it just makes me love them even more yeah that they probably had some extremely intimate ceremony and and that was it yeah no big fanfare no big crazy hoopla and just like the two of them wanted to wanted to commit to each other and they did it privately and we may never see one iota from this union, but we're happy for them nonetheless. Totally agree. I am so freaking happy for them. I love that they are just, like, so happy together that they went off and got married. Like, I love it. I love love. I love that these two committed to each other in that way. And you know what? Like, we get to see fake wedding pictures of Zendaya anyway, you know, with Robert Pattinson. Like, we get to see Zendaya in a wedding dress. She's not with Tom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I will say, going just to the movie that Zendaya and Robert Pattinson have coming out soon with A24. Yeah. I'm dying to see this film. Same. You know, I watched the trailer for this movie, and I thought, what the fuck did Zendaya do? I know. Because her character in the movie, for those who maybe have not seen it, her and Robert Pattinson are, you know, getting married. And then they're at a dinner with friends, and they all reveal, like, a secret that they've done. and Zendaya reveals what she did and Robert Pattinson is like so taken aback they don't know if they can work their way getting married. Same with the friends. Whatever it is. The friends are just like what? What the fuck? I need to know what she did. Yeah. It's a really good trailer. It is. It's a trailer that ropes you in. What's the movie called again? It's like literally like the the wedding the what the I'm looking it up. You know it's just like a strong. The drama. The drama. The drama. Yes. The drama. I need to know what the drama is. an hour and 45 minutes what a perfect what a perfect time when does it come out so a month yeah god i just got so excited yeah it looks like it's gonna be ever since i saw the trailer for this movie i've i've been wondering what the fuck did she do yeah you know yeah i'm almost i'm also really excited that uh ryan gossip movie that's coming out in a couple weeks project hail mary i'm reading the book right now i'm saying that's great i started it on the it It looks so similar to The Martian, too, which is the same director. Yeah, same. Yeah. Yeah. A couple good movies on the way. Yeah. Yeah. Harry Styles album this week. Woo-hoo! Sorry. That is so... Wait, oh, my God. Speaking of... Oh. Can we talk for a second? Sorry. I'm like, I can't believe I was going to go without bringing this up. Multiple things now, actually, that I want to bring up before we go into TV stuff. The Brits performance. Mm-hmm. because I fucking loved it. And my god, did it get mixed reviews on the internet. People either hated it, they thought he hated it. I saw people being like, oh, he hates what he's doing up there. And I was like, how do you know? I didn't take it as he hated it. And I loved it. Yeah. I mean. I think it gave some people the ick. Yeah. Are you one of those people? I did not for me. I've watched it so many times. It made me so excited to see this show. No, I just got excited to see him in concert. Like, again. It is like he's never done, like, choreographed moves like that. Yeah, but he's such a joyous performer. Yeah, but I thought that he dances all the time in the shows. Yes, this was like a dance break moment, Like, it does have him, which feels more organic when he's dancing on stage to his music. But it obviously tied in with the music video and everything in the music video. So it made a lot of sense to me for it to be in the performance. I think it was maybe the screen grabs is why people, like, got there. Like, if you just, like, had, if you just saw screen grabs of the performance. I love the screen grab of this. Well, yeah, no. listen he looks like he's having a fantastic time it's just crazy people thought he looked like he was missed i didn't think that yeah i feel like he was in character for that because he yeah i saw the dance part and like he would like do a move and smile and then the smile would go away but i feel like that was part of it was on purpose too because i think people think like he's being forced into a new era that he doesn't want to be in i was like what no i don't think i would be doing this if he didn't want to. I agree. At all. I agree. Someone's making him do choreographed dances. Harry Styles doesn't scream puppet to me. No, not at all. He's forced to do things that he doesn't want to. Yeah. I think that this is just him exploring. Did you see the whole Jack Whitehall? He hosted the Brits in. Yeah. Did you see they had a whole intro to the show with Harry? That was funny. I did see that. Did you share something on your story of Nick Jonas the other day? no no no no i'm blanking now just the hairy video okay i thought i saw something of nick jonas this weekend and now and no the other thing i wanted to mention was snl because connor story and he did and he went from snl straight to the actor awards which pop off like good for him Booked and busy. So booked and busy. And I was so happy for him. I thought his monologue was fantastic. I loved the moment with the hockey players getting the, you know, the Hughes brothers out there. Then we got the ladies out there. And I thought that that was so fun seeing, like, Megan talk about, you know, they both had games early in the day. And they both make it a well-timed joke. I thought it was a great close to that whole situation. And what a good way to do it, I think, you know, on a stage like Saturday Night Live. Unfortunately, the rest is tough. And here's my thing, and I saw a lot of people have this take, so it's not exactly an original thought for me. these people are so talented like connor's story is fantastic and i think he was fantastic in so many of the sketches god so a bunch of them were just done i didn't see any of the stuff oh i watch i i didn't watch the show like start to finish but i watched the i watched the monologue i watched and then i watched a ton of i don't know at this point on social they post the whole thing so it's like on the flight I felt like I watched the whole show on TikTok pretty much. Right, you could watch it and catch up, yeah. That I was like, oh, man. I just kept seeing people say how bad some of the writing was for the sketches that it did not make me go out of my way to then go watch them. Yeah, that's fair, and a lot of people were like, hey, guys, listen up. You got a few weeks to get it together for Harry Styles. Get it together. Because Connor is so talented. I know. And honestly, the stuff before, like the promo, I thought, some of that stuff was even funnier. The promo that they did of like the accent off was really funny because that's such a talent that he has. And there was one musical number, like a full short that I guess didn't make the show. but that actually did make me laugh i was like oh this is actually funny and i guess it was maybe cut for time or something i didn't know all i saw was just comments of people being like why wasn't this in the show it was kind of ridiculous but it was a funny song about how car door handles are you are terrible like they got rid of door handles on cars you can't get in and out of cars you don't know how to get you don't have to open them no car now has a normal door handle so true and i i thought oh this is funny like it gave me a giggle it was good um but so true other than that you know i love seeing hudson jump into this to to a sketch but even some of those i just it just wasn't i wasn't laughing as much as i wanted to be how do you feel about hudson being brought into the sketches. I love it. I think it's great. I think that's awesome. I love that. Like, listen. I think it's great. Why not? They both popped off at the same time. Yeah. I love it. Yeah. There has been discussion, and this is just like the, you know, people who are become very intense fans, that there was discussion about, like, why do they both have to do everything that the other one is doing? But I see no issue with why not? I don't either. Like, what's the big deal, yo? Yeah, I don't either. And it makes sense because they're both getting such attention right now for a show that they're in together. Right, and one does not take away from the other. No, it doesn't. And it's also, like, it'll ebb and flow for the two of them. Like, yes, Connor was asked to host SNL. It's like, oh, Hudson's doing an appearance. But, like, who knows what Hudson could be doing or maybe next season for show promo. They'll have Hudson host SNL. Right. It's just always. Everybody eats? Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I felt like it was a great way. And it's Saturday Night Live. Like, I think it's such an honor to be asked to host. And you could tell it really meant something to him. He was emotional as the show ended. Oh, sweet. And I think that, you know, it's just, it's still probably one of the coolest things. and such a massive, massive accomplishment that I think even as a host, you sort of want to trickle in people that are such a big part of your life or a part of why you are now hosting SNL. Right. It's also like I'm sure he wants to share the moment with him. You know, like this was such a big show for the both of them, and they're kind of going through this together at the same time, and they clearly have such a love for each other and have such a strong friendship that it's like, why not share it with somebody? Yeah. You know? So I love it. I think it's great. And I'm so happy for Connor, although maybe he didn't get the best writing. Yeah. That is not a reflection of his talent because he is so freaking talented. Yeah, exactly. And I still, I appreciate everything he did in the show. 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Time for the Traders finale recap. recap finally yep finally we have made it to the end my little faithfuls yeah we've made it because my god did i want to know how this this freaking ended so bad yeah i tried every which way to find a spoiler and they kept it locked shut which i'm really happy about i'm glad that we were able to watch in the final moments and and find out together what had happened but the man did it the man did it rob was the official winner of traders a trader himself yeah now listen did we sort of think rob was going to win mostly the whole time yeah yes was there a little doubt creeping in at the end because of how obvious it was going to be that he won yeah also yes but I think it played out exactly how we suspected it to with Rob winning. Yeah. Did we suspect for it to be Maura and Rob in the end like that? No, I can't say I did. I cannot say that I predicted the way that it was going to go down between these two. No, but you know what? We should have thought it because they were so close the entire time. I think it just was almost unbelievable to us, too, that he could take more all the way to the end and then just double cross it like that. But it's exactly what he did. You got to do what you got to do. He played a ruthless game. It is extremely hard to be a day one trader and make it all the way to the end as a solo winner. So he really did play a fantastic game. I think towards the end there, like we had talked about in the last couple weeks, some incredible frustrations as viewers from the standpoint of watching some of these faithfuls. as much as I love Johnny and Tara, I just think that it was, they weren't putting two and two together. It just wasn't happening for them. Like they were not gonna figure this one out or go against each other. And they just like, honestly, having them together was probably a disadvantage for the faithfuls because they were two people that just had the same mindset and couldn't really get them to break off of that. But I think we thought it went down very similar to how we kind of thought, though, like talking about it last week, getting rid of Mark is probably the best bet, dramatic fashion, and then having to double-cross Eric, which I saw people upset about that Rob did that. But at the end of the day, and he said it, you know, I'm going to share money. Why share money with someone nice? Would you share money? Would you give $100,000 to somebody you met three weeks ago? Yeah. Because I wouldn't. Yeah. I was completely fine with him across and Eric like that because he did it to Candace and Lisa. Yeah. So he was like, fuck it. Anything to win, I'm going to do. And he knew he had the numbers. Poor Tara at the end because she finally figured it out. Yeah. It seemed like she finally had it. Maura just wasn't going to go against Rob. That was her day one person. That was her number one alliance. She was never going to go against Rob. So they get Johnny out. Then they get, and the way that Rob said to Eric, he's like, we go Tara, then we go green. And he fucking just pulled one on him because they then get Tara out. Tara is stunned at Maura. And then. And Maura thought he was totally, like Maura was like, Rob's listening to my plan. Yeah. Because Maura was like, okay, so we'll get Tara, but then promise me we'll get Eric. Because she was just so locked in on Eric being a faithful. She did not think about Rob at all. Rob's like, yeah, sure. Yeah. And no, he was like, pinky promise. He picked her up, spun her around. And he was like, we're winning this thing. And in that moment, Rob knew he was going to win. Because he's like, my plan's about to fucking fall right under my lap. Because what they did was they got Tara out. Then it was the three of them. when Rob threw red oh chills I was like this fucking guy so smart honestly because Eric's face when Eric throws green he throws red and he just knows it's coming back to him and they're just they're just getting him out I mean I was completely fine with that I I was almost happy I was like you know what Rob's done this whole thing since day one yeah Eric listen you tried your best you had a good you should have seen it coming yeah you should have seen it coming he fucked over everybody else you tried yeah but you failed and that's that yeah and i think here's the thing too i don't think rob was really going to be able to convince whoever it was whatever faithful was left that eric wasn't a traitor because i think they were so adamant that there was a traitor left and that it was Eric or that, you know, that, that, that would have been suspicious if he really tried to throw people off of Eric to be like, no, all of a sudden he was like, I really think we're all faithful. Like, I think that would have thrown people off too. So it made sense to just be like, oh, you guys are all down to go. You guys are down for Eric. Absolutely. Maura, it was, it was brilliantly frustrating to watch because she just refused to look at Rob. And then she had to own it, and she did. She was so shocked. Her face at that last reveal was insane. When she made the joke to Rob, to try to make him think she was a traitor. Yeah, I was like, oh, no. You're just like, oh, no. And you could see it. She's like, when he hesitated, she's like, oh, my God, don't tell me. and of course in the moment she's super shocked i think in her interview like in the little confessional she said in the best way you you can so i give her a lot of credit for that it's like you know he fucking got me i don't know what to say took it like a champ because you could have a lot of different reactions to that happening and i think she's like damn i like fuck you but respect because you got us all, you played us all. I thought she had a great reaction. I think she had, like, the proper, like, initial reaction of, like, what the fuck, and then, like, you know what, props. Something that was really sticking with me was that I felt like we never saw their actual mouth say Rob's name as a traitor. Like, you would see them say Eric, but then every time they said Rob, it would cut away. Like, you never actually, in the last episode, like, for some reason, I felt like you never saw their mouth actually say Rob. Like, it would be, like, shot from behind their head or would be, like, in a confessional but, like, moving fast. Like, I was like, something's off here. Like, I don't know if they're suspecting Rob or if this was edited in after to make them not seem as clueless. Because I think they're on to Eric. But I don't know about Rob here because the editing was off to me. I don't know if I was just overthinking it, but that's something that I was, like, speculating on while watching. But, I mean, props to Rob. So well-deserved. He played an unbelievable game. So smart. Top to bottom. He did what he had to do. And he won it all. Like, he just swept the entire game. As for the reunion, shout-out to Donna Kelsey, who had some funny lines. I mean, she did. Donna Kelsey had some funny throwaway comments. comments in that reunion for somebody who was you know yeah gone the first the first night and then as for candace going at rob kind of a low blow to accuse of cheating yeah you know i there is not one ounce of me that thinks he cheated in that game i think it's just a low blow when somebody wins the whole thing to be like you cheated because i i there's no benefit no benefit no benefit to a traitor telling a faithful that they're a traitor you both can't win anything a traitor and a faithful both can't win so there would be zero benefit yeah to be telling a faithful that you're a traitor the only thing that i could see is like because colton was so vocal about and now vocal afterwards about how he seemed to really want to be recruited it's like maybe that's a conversation but they can't have that conversation i don't think like rob said they can't even have that conversation that's not that's breaking the rules it's not allowed but in a world where if it was it's like oh rob sells it to colton as like you play with me now and when i get the opportunity to turn a turn a faithful into a traitor it'll i'll pick you like yeah but even then i just don't think that conversation even happens because i don't think they can and it's so risky it's like why would you even have that conversation? You don't know how far Colton's going to go. Yeah. He really wanted to become a trainer. They're also on camera all the time and being recorded 24-7. Like, it's impossible for that to happen. Colton really was, like, trying to get recruiters. You're just saying that now to try to make it look like he was, like, strategic. No, I definitely think he wanted to be recruited. You think? Yeah, because I think he knows he was playing a pretty – So you think, like, when he said that hostage, you think, like, that was him trying to get recruited? No, no, I don't think that. I think he was just playing a pretty, like, reckless game in general that once he started just throwing people's names out every second and just, like, being the loudest in the room, that he knew the only way out of that would be to be recruited or he was going to be sent home. Like, I think that's pretty fair. And he said that, and I believe him. Because I think if you're playing the game that loud and just, like, nonstop, being like, this is the next person, next person, next person, you know you're not making it to the end unless you get taken in as a traitor and then can try and flip it that way. Yeah, I just think that – I thought that Rob kind of played it smart, too. He's like, it's a game, and that's really it. Like, how else are you supposed to answer these questions? He's got to get Maura Birkin bag. Yes, he owes Maura Birkin. Which fair, you know what? If I was Eric, I'd be like, can I get something? Didn't promise Eric or anything. Yeah, I mean, look, he wasn't, him and Eric were whispering in the corners, like, we're going to make it to the end together, like it's the game that Rob and Maura were doing from the beginning. And to be honest, like, for Maura, probably best case scenario, right? She's like, I'm on a show. It's a huge success. my fashion was fantastic I knocked it out of the park every single episode and I'm getting a I'm getting a Birkin out of this for making it all the way to the end and losing so I thought that was funny yeah the housewives kind of tried to do their housewife stuff in the reunion of course I think Candace and Lisa both coming at Colton a little bit But I thought, I don't know, I thought what Colton said made sense. And in that moment, I think, you know, whatever, they try to give Rappaport a second to give his side. Same with Portia. It's like they know how to speak up at a reunion. So they're going to have the most to say. Michael Rappaport was living out like his housewives reunion. Totally. Totally. Totally. So all around, I had a great time watching this season. Yep. And I think that they're going to have a lot to live up to next season. I think the traders are going to have a fucking hard time next season. I really want an All-Star season. Not yet, though. It's too early. I don't think we're there yet. It's too early. I think we need, like, six seasons. Yeah. Even still, like, I think it's too early to do All-Stars. Yeah. Yeah. I think we need to get a couple more under the belt. Especially because now they're going to do a normal cities, like they're doing a Normie ones. which I think is fun because then down the line, if you want to do all-stars, you can mix it normie trader players and celebrity trader players for that all-star. Like if you get the people that do so well on normie traders onto an all-star season. Have they done all-stars in other? I don't think so. I was wondering, when they do an all-star, I was like, would they make someone who was a traitor a traitor again? Or is that like you have to? I don't know. I mean, the pool is huge if they wanted to combine all the different traitors. You know, there's obviously a ton of people in case traitors. Aaron won traitors. Rob won traitors. Yeah. I think it's still early on. We'd love to see those two on a season together, though. I think that would be fun. But I think it's early on in the traitors universe for there to be all-stars. I think we need a couple more. Yeah. But this one was so good. Who knows if Rob will come back? You know, he just wants to live his quiet life. He wants to live his quiet life. He has a girlfriend. He's got a girlfriend. Yeah. Happy for him. Yeah. Yep. Maybe the things are coming up wrong. And maybe we'll see him on Dancing with the Stars. I think he needs to do Dancing with the Stars and then fade into the abyss. Yeah. And then come back for Traders All-Stars years down the line. I wonder if he would do Dancing with the Stars. Part of me thinks that he might not, but if they offer him a pretty penny, yeah i could see him changing his mind i agree or i could see like the people around him his family or whatever being like what like come on it's also it's harmless yeah yeah yeah harmless unless you are in the early stages of a new relationship and your girlfriend's like yeah like i would rather you not do that but i i don't know maybe like hopefully she would be supportive you would hope but that it's a tricky show it is it is but uh we'll see i'm rooting for him to be on there and great stuff by maura i mean listen yeah she got bamboozled in the end but what are you gonna do she put all her trust in rob yeah and all the snake charmer yeah yep that he is and i think that wraps up for the treasure recap i'm gonna miss it though i'm gonna miss i'm gonna miss the hell out of it i really am i'm gonna miss mark battles his tiktoks and instagrams um he has been quite entertaining online yeah he was quite you know seemingly got a quieter edit on the show, but he has been entertaining. His TikTok's really funny. They are. I think this has been a great cast. It was. Looking forward to them announcing the next cast. That's what happens. It wraps up and you go, who do I want on the next one? I think they're both on Watcher Happens Live on this week. They are. Robin and Maura on Wednesday. I could see, like, Paige DeSorbo doing Traitors. I think she would be hilarious. She'd be great. Like, some great confessional. That's what I'm thinking. like just confessional wise and fashion wise i feel like page would be great um that's all i got right now for people who i want on the next season yeah yeah yeah yeah i know i'm trying to think too let's get you guys on there i would fucking love to be on traders but i'm not you know famous enough imagine they put page and craig on there together oh she wouldn't do it and she You shouldn't. I wouldn't either. No. But if they did, it would be pretty crazy. I think Craig and Austin on there would be funny. Yeah. I feel like Craig would do it in a heartbeat, too. I mean, I don't really know any of them that wouldn't do it at this point. Like, I think it's a show that's on top of a lot of people's list. Yeah, it's definitely for, you know, competition shows that you would want to do. Yeah. That's my – Traitor's my number one. And just like everyone just gets so close, but you don't know who's lying. Yeah. So hard. Yep. Yep. All right. That wraps up the Traders recap. We're about to get into the Weekly Watch Report. And honestly, it's the perfect time to crack open my Pepsi Prebiotic Cola. This flavor is chari vanilla. I'm going to crack it open in the mic. This. Oh. The cherry vanilla flavor is absolutely delicious. Oh my God, it is so good. Pepsi new prebiotic cola is just what you need. There's a regular cola and also the cherry vanilla comes in two flavors. 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So what I like about you with Jenny Garth and Amanda Bynes is on Netflix. It's been like at the top. Like they've been like promoting it kind of. Sorry, my foot fell asleep. I'm doing a little rearrangement right here. You cross. Okay. It's been our throw on at night before bed show. Yeah. Flying through it. Yeah. 20 minute episodes. I got to go back. I would actually love to go back and watch that because when it was on, when they would play it on like i don't know teen nick or whatever the hell it would play on like i was obsessed maybe it was like freeform i don't know what abc family yeah what yeah yeah like whatever whatever network it played on like after it had already aired because when was it on tv 2000 like it early 2006 like i think it ended in 2006 right right right so i don't think i was watching it when it was like live live but afterwards and i loved it it it's just one of those shows that just reminds you of when you watched it if that makes sense yeah it was on from 2002 to 2006 yeah definitely was not watching it live yeah but watched it after with the reruns and you know it's just an easy show to watch you fly through the episodes i'll give it a b it's just comforting. Yep. And also so fair. Sad at the same time. Yep. You know? You're just like Amanda Bond. Like it just makes you scratch your head. Yeah, it does. But that's been a rewatch. Love story. This most recent episode. Yep. I fear my initial thoughts about him have come back around. Yeah, this is the fifth episode. Yeah. This is the, you know, Battery Park City fight episode. The proposal and whatnot. Listen, I like this show a lot. So do I. And I will tune in every damn week. This episode in particular was a tough go for our guy, Paul Anthony Kelly. Yes. Acting-wise. yeah thoughts yeah i i agree there's three there's there are three things i wrote down quite the noise when i yeah yeah look there are three things i wrote down um from from his moments and one was the uh when he was talking when he was yelling in the park and it was like talking about why he proposed and he was like propose out of love that was one it was like all one word proposal I'm literally choking there was the kind of like toddler-esque tantrum on the sidewalk where he said why can't we just love each other yeah and those were the ones that really popped out to me Because here's the thing. What was the third one? No, the tantrum on the side, that was a double. I find her to be so good that it unfortunately hurts him. Yeah, I think she's outacting him all over the place. I just feel like she is, like, actually believable, and I struggle with him. And there's moments where I'm like, okay, I get it. And I do think that it is a little bit of in those moments like JFK Jr. was kind of supposed to. They think he's acting like a little bit like a baby. Like it's I get it. But. I don't know. It's the performance. Yeah. There was also one that stuck out to me this episode when they were in the elevator and he said that he forgot his wallet Yeah Just that line in particular when you go back and watch it yeah it very much like beat beat oh i forgot my wallet yeah yeah yeah right right almost as if i was casted in a show right how bad my acting would be it would be like oh i forgot my wallet like i i i couldn't yeah i oh god i did it and here's the thing i really didn't want to feel this way because i had been getting better i had been defending paul anthony kelly up and down with his acting for this show but this one i can't define you paul yeah and here's the thing i'm wondering i actually asked i i did think it got better and then this one maybe a little bit i brought this up to jeff d lowe yesterday because i i texted him about it and i said do we think that this episode was shot first i was gonna say maybe they don't shoot chronologically Maybe, because a lot of shows don't shoot chronologically. They don't shoot chronologically. But they would go, like, most important, like, biggest fight first. I don't know. That's what I'm wondering. They might have, because there were paparazzi photos of them shooting this scene pretty early on. Right. So I'm like, maybe, did they shoot this episode in the beginning? And then the other ones later on? Because it took quite a dip. Right, right, right, right. It scattered. The acting in this episode, to me, is quite different than it's been in the other ones. Yeah, I agree. I agree. But it's still a good show, and I think Sarah Pidgeon is wonderful. Yeah, she's just so great. I think she's great. I mean, she was great in the wild, too. She was in. You know what's so crazy? I didn't realize it. I know what you're going to say. She was in I Know What You Did last time. Yeah. I saw that someone tweeted that, and I was like, wait, that was her? No, she's a fabulous actor. Yeah. I think I've said the word fabulous a lot of times today. The blonde has really, the blonde really transformed her. She looks like she's a great blonde. She's a fantastic blonde. Is she a natural blonde or is she a natural? I think she's a natural brunette. I think natural dark, yeah. Because I saw her on the carpet last night. She's just like sticking with it. The blonde is more good for her. The blonde, she can pull off both, but I think it's hard. Sometimes it's hard to, like, when you have had darker hair and then you go to the blonde to, like, really have the blonde be believable. That's the right word to use, you know? Like, she really pulls it off. She pulls it off. And now I'm wondering, like, you know, I'm sure you're seeing online this everybody wants to be Carolyn Bissette Kennedy in her style. So I'm like, are you guys sure you don't want to just be Sarah Pidgeon as Carolyn Bissette? You know, like they're watching the show and being like, I want to dress like Carolyn Bissette. But you're going on, you're like, really what you want is to be Sarah Pidgeon as Carolyn Bissette. I mean, there are a lot of photographs of Carolyn. Yeah. The real life Carolyn that people are going off of. But like it was inspired by Sarah Pidgeon in the show. Yeah. You know. Yeah. It's a major TikTok show. that's kind of like also going overboard too. I've seen so many people. It's like, oh, they're calling it the CBK effect. Not to be confused with CPK, which I always want to say because that's a couple of people. Pizza kitchen. CBK. Yes. Like I saw TikTok go viral this weekend of, you know, Saturday at some bar in the West Village and everyone was like, all the girls are dressed the same because everybody wants to look like they want that CBK look, which is just really a timeless aesthetic in general. But it is, quote, unquote, trendy, I guess, right now because of the show. I will also say, though, like anything will look good on like a six-foot skinny model type of a body. You know what I mean? Is she that tall? Is there a pigeon? I don't know. She's six foot, but she's like 5'9 or 5'10 around there. She does look tall. You know what I'm saying? Do you think that's deceiving? Let's see what Google says. How tall is she? 5'10. 5'10, you know? Yes, she's tall. That's tall. Yeah. Yep, I agree. How tall was Carolyn? I feel like probably pretty tall. You think? 5'9". Yeah. What did you guys think of Ethel at the table? Better than Jackie. Ethel scared me. Oh, yeah, but I'm like, that was absurd. Like, do you think that actually happened? Like, that was crazy. She was just grilling everyone on politics. I feel like maybe that did happen. I don't know. I don't really believe anything from the show. I don't take a single thing really as fact because we don't know for sure. Yes, sure, like there's been books and all that written about this family, but it's always from like outsiders. Like take your scarf off. It's never like from the actual family themselves. I saw Carolyn's scarf was so chic in that scene that I didn't know she had to take it off. But I certainly believe they sat around the table talking about politics. Yeah, but maybe not in that fashion. I, I, no, but I believe it in some extent that that happened, but not as, like, as exactly portrayed. She gets harder questions farther down the table. Yeah, like, yeah, it's like, we also. How do we know this? You know what I mean? It's also, like, pure speculation on what exactly they were fighting about in the park. We know they were fighting because there's pictures of them fighting. Right. But we don't know if they were fighting about the proposal. Yeah, we don't, we don't really know, like, what allegedly exactly they were fighting about. I just want to love you. Their stories. What did you write yesterday in the story? It was one of the other quotes. It was, why can't we just love each other? Yes. Wait, I'm going back to read it. Sorry, I keep picking up my phone. I didn't realize that Robert Kennedy. Why can't we just love each other? Why can't we just love each other? Why can't we just love each other? And he was like, standing on the sidewalk, like, and he said it like a kid. He was like a kid. That was my line. It was a tantrum on the sidewalk, like a little kid. Yeah, that was tough. But I will give it, I'll give this episode a B. Minus. I'll give this episode a B minus. It is lower than the others. I think if you watch it kind of like it's funny in a way. Like it could, that's kind of how I'm watching it. Like those, I was laughing at some of those moments. You know what I really love though? They have them, and like I know we've talked about the music before, just when they use like popular songs. but but Carolyn and JFK have like they have like a little melody like that goes with the show you know what I'm saying like it's like the background melody like when things are good between them and it's a beautiful little number I love it like every time it plays I'm like oh it's like a warm hug these two are in love it's obviously made for the show it's the um, you know, whatever it's called. That's the music that plays for them in real life. Yeah, yeah. Whatever. I'm like, what, what am I, what's the word I'm looking for? Score. Score. Thank you. It's like, you know, just like the background score that is playing, but it's, it's lovely. No, it is. It's lovely. It is lovely. And I, I still think that the two of them have great love chemistry. They do. They do. I think the guy who, the Calvin Klein character is one of the better characters. I buy into him. I know nothing about Calvin Klein, but he fascinates me. Oh, the guy who's playing Calvin Klein? Yeah, yeah. He's good, but that's another one that I'm curious about because it's like, I feel like they're really playing up how pissed he was about this whole situation. Yeah. Like this snarky, like, oh, you can't get your boyfriend to come to my party? Like, I'm like, I don't really know if Calvin Klein cared this much. Maybe he did. Maybe he did, but I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah. Look, I'm sure there's a million books, and I've seen people looking for it. They're like, I need source material. Like, where's the documentary? Where is the, like, give me the real shit of, like, where I can learn what's going on. Give us the actual stories. Because there's books. There's plenty of books and stuff that you can read. But, once again, it's not like, you know, Caroline Kennedy hasn't written an expose on her family. Right. And, by the way, we, like, people never heard Caroline talk. So. No. We don't know. No. Really. There's like barely anything. We're just going off Sarah Pidgeon. Yeah. And she's just a great actress. I think she's doing a great job. It is funny to just be like everyone's using like an ain't over till it's over song on everything now like out of nowhere because of this. I feel like everyone's like, I've seen a million TikToks of guys like trying to dress like J.P. Jr. now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's taking over on both sides. It is. Especially in New York City. Yeah. A lot of love topics today. I got Love Island All-Stars and Love is Blind. Love Story, Love Island, Love Island All-Stars. I don't know which way I want to go with this. I'm going to go Love Island All-Stars next. All caught up. Yeah. Finished it. This was quite the season. It was. It was a lot to swallow towards, you know, middle to the end with all the fighting all the time. Oh, my God. Lucinda pied Sammy. and how much are they going to fight about this? And Belle and Scott, it felt like it was never ending. The fights just kept going and going and going. It was a good cast, though, entertaining. And here's the thing, though, I'm always bored by the finale. Yeah. Because as much as the drama gets tiring when it's the same thing, then you're at the end and you find out the winner and that's that. but I will say I'll give it a B plus all around. Yeah. Not one of my favorite seasons, but it was entertaining enough that I caught up on all of it. Surprising win for me, I'm not going to lie. You think so? Yeah, I just, I don't know if it's just because the discourse I saw online really had nothing to do with those two, which I guess maybe is why they slid to the top. It's like they were, because towards the end, yes, Sammy was involved in the drama with Lucinda, and that was kind of it. But, like, the last couple weeks, it's like you heard Kieran speak four words. You know, it's like they weren't really getting a lot of air time because the drama had to do with so many other couples. I thought that maybe just because that wasn't, because they weren't really in the drama, that they were, like, kind of solid. I thought Millie was maybe going to take it just because everybody loves Millie so much. Millie is great. I do love watching them all after the show. So, like, now they're all on TikTok, like, Lucinda and Sean are making all the TikToks together. When Lucinda and Sean asked if people thought they were going to get married, I was like, these two. You know, like, it was, I am not so much, like, on the I hate Lucinda. No. Or I hate, like, she was very annoying. Yeah. Yeah. I had a lot of parts. She's like a reality TV fan. And, like, really frustrating, and I could see why the girls were getting fired up. But then I kind of switched my tune where I was just like, you know what? I'm just going to take her for what she is at this point. And I really do think Sean is so obsessed with her. And I'm telling you, these TikToks are unreal. I've only seen a few of them because they have only been out for so long. But one of them, she was doing a full, like, singing in the shower, singing in the shower. but when it cuts to sitting in the shower it's Sean fully clothed in the shower like and she's dancing in the mirror he's singing in the shower and then they didn't they did another one like she loves like the cheesy saying tiktoks you know where it like starts with her and there's like words on the top it's like when they tell you you need this and it's like but you get like whatever yeah and it's something like that and she's in front of her bed and the bed is made and sean is underneath the covers completely and she falls back onto the bed and he like wraps her in the creative it's crazy but no they're literally all on tiktok i know million zach are getting caught up on all of zach's tiktoks and here's the thing like they're like oh the dancing tiktoks all these things cringe like zach's social media presence is so cringy to me and they're acting like he was posting these videos years ago i'm like they how about three months ago you know like they're not that long um i we'll see how that one goes i really hope it goes well because millie really does seem to like him a lot i just kind of need i appreciate the content i don't know i go back and forth i kind of need him to put down his phone for like a couple days because i'm like every time i open up tiktok it's a clip of him from a live stream or tiktok live or instagram live or they're answering fan questions or they're vlogging or they're doing something where i'm like can you put your phone down for like a weekend i think these people they just get they get on the show and they get so caught up with how into it people are and they want to capitalize immediately but it almost seems like they're never off their phone it felt like like this past season of love island usa this summer yeah it was like they were on their phone constantly they they could never put it down like i'm like has this been thrown down one time yeah it's not going to be healthy for even more the relationship yeah yeah but look i'm happy with i'm happy with who won it just i definitely surprised me i thought me too i wasn't too surprised too surprised because i i don't i wasn't seeing a lot of discourse online like as i was watching because i was behind yeah so i really didn't see many of people talking about anything yeah but from what i was watching i just felt like oh they were locked in and weren't really involved in that much drama like couple wise so i was like okay right i guess that makes sense right no they seem like a very solid yeah so yeah yeah i will give that a b plus yeah and then love is blind got some notes on that was blind i mean these are some of the worst people i've ever seen uh to put it you know lightly on this show yeah and in general on on my TV screen as a whole. Right. I don't know if it's recency bias, because there's been some pretty awful humans on Love is Blind before, but these two really seem to take the cake. The continuation of that conversation in the bar with Chris and Breezy, and then being like, you ever been to the Four Seasons? No. Like, the Four Seasons thing, the Andrew Tate comment was wild. It was wild. I'm writing some Andrew Tate. It's like, well, maybe you should take a look in the mirror then if that's what everyone's saying to you. Yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, no one would have known that if you didn't bring that up yourself, that everyone on the cast is calling you that. Maybe don't say that out loud. It's insane. It's not a good thing. No, no. It's horrible. And then the comments from Alex, just really some great, like, I texted you this where I'm like, I'm ready to jump to the level of perhaps serial killer. I am so freaked out by him. Calling him a gaslighter would be putting it lightly. Lightly. It's like so far beyond that that I don't even know if there's a word for it besides potential serial killer vibes. Because that whole conversation between Ashley and Pri. Yeah. Right? Priyanka. Yeah. It was hard for me to wrap my head around because he was lying, and then he decided, okay, I'm actually not going to lie anymore. And then tried to make them feel crazy. Yeah. And the way that he was speaking to both women was disgusting as well. The comment he made about, like, oh, let me tell you, I'll tell you every time I jerk off then. I was like, all right. Yeah. All right. Like, okay, really? This is what we're going to jump to? Yeah. You're going to be this pathetic. Yeah, like, he. No. No, he's scary. He's a little scary. I'm not going to lie. And we, the two of us talked about this. A girl went viral on TikTok talking about how, like, he's talked about how he got on the show. That a recruiter, like, reached out on LinkedIn or something, whatever it was. And he keeps talking about his nomadic lifestyle. And he's jumping from this place to this place. and she was like I think that he just signed up to do the show because it was like a solid place to stay for a couple months because he's just seems like he's couched yeah he's like I'll be able to stay with Ashley sounds good no the way that he operates as a whole the way he thinks acts talks lives his entire life is so absurdly suspicious to me I cannot stand him I hate this man I really do I can't wrap my head around him being a real human being. I also cannot deal with men who speak like this to women. Don't make her and your friend feel like idiots. Yeah. Like, oh, God, it really just really revved me up. I couldn't agree more. Just a shout out to the editing on the conversation that they were having back at their house where Alex was like, I'll order you McDonald's. And they're like talking about their McDonald's order. And I will go down with this. And I'm like, oh, my God, this is fantastic. I mean, I was actually crying laughing. Like Buffalo. And she's like, he's like, 10 nugs. Buffalo? Buffalo. Honey must. And he's like, you want fries? I will go down with this shit. You want to make chicken? I will put my hands on the right. And she's like, buffalo. Yeah. I'm in love. Always will be. What was he trying to do there? Was he trying to act like he knew her McDonald's order? Like, was that supposed to be impressive? I don't know. He was like, he was like trying to cheer her up. yeah and then honestly it's bizarre i kind of went down like you know because he's so rude and foul in my mind yeah i feel okay making this comment because there has been suspicion of like what he even does for a living or does he not even have a place to yeah i'm like he's ordering uber eats yeah like i'm like you know yeah i know i know that's actually delivery charge maybe you should go through the drive-thru yeah it's crazy um the other thing the other thing i i hope i hope jordan and amber can figure things out i had a feeling that this would uh be a hiccup you know because i think amber heard that heard comments he's being about being nervous but then jordan cracked there was one thing jordan said said to connor when they were talking about chris said connor jordan was like you should have just sent him a picture of your balls basically back I said these guys there's just a lot going on um they did their dress fittings and the and the tuxes all that was going on in this episode these episodes Brittany having her dress already you know I'm this like sweet sweet girl like i i she wants to get married so bad but i'm like this isn't the guy you know i am begging britney to not marry devante yeah this man has no personality whatsoever he like she's so badly and i feel bad saying this because i think britney is so bubbly and beautiful and has a smile that lights up a room and i feel like she deserves a really great person who is going to sweep her off her feet in the way that she wants to be loved. I do think that there is a guy out there that is going to love her the way she wants to be loved. Yeah. But she wants to get married so badly that she's willing to just marry Devante without I don't, he is not the person that she needs, I don't think, or loves. And then on top of that, Devante's like, you know, he wants to get a prenup. Yeah. They don't really know each other. Yeah. So I'm like, Brittany, sign the prenup. Like, this whole conversation, like, her not wanting to sign a prenup, you barely know this man. You know what I mean? Like, you should want to sign this prenup. You don't know him. Absolutely. I almost hope, because the prenup is the right move, and I don't fault Devante on bringing it up. However, I hope that it upsets Brittany enough that she doesn't want to marry him. Right. Exactly. I hope that she doesn't know you're ridiculous. I get what you're saying. She shouldn't be mad about it. I wouldn't be mad about it. But I hope that she is because then she won't marry. Exactly. I get exactly what you're saying. Because him bringing it up is actually a good thing. Yeah. And her being so taken aback by it, I think is like we were talking about this. I think she just wants to get married and just will marry whoever at this point. But hopefully she does not because this is not it. Like he's just not giving anything. and you can tell she's somebody who wants to be loved, like, out loud and, like, be showered with compliments and have that, you know, physical and, you know, words of affirmation and all those things. Yeah, for her to have to be like, I just need to, like, get used to the way that you show love. Well, you really don't because you know this guy every four weeks so you can just not marry him. You can just not marry him and you can meet somebody out there that will do that because it exists and I want that for her because she's saying, like, i know you're not going to be the one to like tell me i'm pretty like what yeah what you're telling you i'm fucking beautiful you are all the time and he's like standing across the table like yeah you're right and then and then like like when she was talking about oh like the girls were asking you know how you'll react when you see me in my dress and like i i just said like i know you won't really say much it's like what yeah yeah you don't want this conversation you do not want that sad conversation so sad um yeah she seems so sweet i know and oh god it bright i really hope she doesn't fucking marry this man yeah i really i i agree um breezy and connor broke up i'm not quite sure you know what my ears were open like i was watching i was listening i can't really really tell you anything that these two talked about in the 10 minutes that we watched them break up and then all of a sudden it was like it was over and and I was like I think they just broke up but they didn't really outwardly say it was like ending it started in such a weird way the conversation started they were just really like complimenting each other and Breezy was seemingly so appreciative for how he was showing up for her and somehow it led to yet something still isn't right and talking about like if they would say yes or no at the altar and breezy was anything i'd say no and it was like well there's your answer if you're already thinking that now it was kind of hard to follow i'm not gonna lie i had the same reaction where i was confused that they even broke up. Yeah. I was like, was that a breakup? I'm not quite sure what just happened. I had to get. Because then it was like, but do they still want to stay together, just not go to the altar? Like, was it like, let's just date and not be engaged? But at that point, it felt like she had these underlying feelings about him anyway, which is like, does that go away with time or not? I don't know. I guess we'll find out what happened. But, like, that was the most confusing breakup ever. I had to get double confirmation online that they did break up because I was like, or didn't, or whatever was happening there. Yeah. Because I was confused. So they're not going to have a wedding? I also, I felt like, by the way, what Connor was saying about her was so lovely. You can tell that he really was starting to admire her. I really liked Connor coming down to the end, too. When she was talking about Connor, it was just about herself, really, like. Yeah. she just loves that he loves her right but not necessarily qualities about him connor yeah so that was kind of odd and so i guess why she wouldn't you know marry it was like a lot of like here's all the things that i like that you do for me but you as a person yeah maybe i'm not as attracted to i don't know i thought connor was lovely down to the end connor was lovely as well He seems like one of the guys that has, maybe he doesn't have everything in his life figured out, but seems like he had a good head on his shoulders. And, I mean, comparable to the rest of them, Jesus Christ. Right. He really stands out. It doesn't take much at this point, right? So, yeah, I guess that's a breakup. I'm sure maybe we'll get more details on how that all went down, if they did try and date afterwards or not. We got left on the cliffhanger, as always, of a wedding. It was Emma and Mike. and kind of fake out. Didn't really know. Like, Emma kind of sounded like it was maybe a no, but ended up being a yes. I just unfortunately think Mike's going to say no. I just, it sucks. And I feel like their families are so sweet. And it's clearly taken a toll on Mike's parents, if you can tell from the way they were talking. And both ways. But it's like Emma's sisters seem like 100% in on Mike. Like, they really, really, really like Mike, which is great. But I just don't see a world where Mike says what he said at the altar about the kids thing. Where he's like, I just need to know that that's a yes. And then he's like, and then he says yes to get married. Because he doesn't know it's a yes. So him being like, I need to know if it's a yes. Well, he actually has no clue if it's a yes, so how is he going to say yes right now? I'll be shocked if he says yes, which sucks because I love Emma. I think she's so, so sweet. But I don't know how he says yes with the kids thing being so up in the air. It's such a ginormous thing that I can't see it either. So huge. So I'm curious. The rest of the weddings will find out what happens. There's always one that shocks me that both say yes, so we'll see who that one is. I'm really hoping it's not Brittany and Devontae. I will give a B plus to Love is Blind. code audio for 20% off your first purchase. That's B-O-M-B-A-S dot com and use code audio. Watch Summer House. Yep. I'll give Summer House a B. Yeah. Kind of wrapping with them. I need Jesse to like, Jesse's got to stop with the Sierra thing. Yeah, it's weird. It turned weird because I also need Wes to stand up and say I think it's weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, Wes, I can tell what he was trying to do. So, you know, you get put in that awkward conversation, and Wes is sort of like, you know, Ben and KJ were saying it's weird, and other people are saying it's weird. Wes thinks it's weird. Right, because he's like, I think if it was anybody else, they'd say you're like a weirdo or a dickhead. It's like, no, you can just call him a dickhead. Right, you can just do that yourself, so just stand up. Stand up, Wes, you got this. Because it is bizarre. And then Jesse was like, well, just because it's weird doesn't mean I'm going to stop. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, that was bizarre. Jesse talking his way out of it was weird, too. That, I thought, that made me uncomfortable. That's supposed to be your really good friend. You're like, oh, just because it's weird, I'm not going to not do it? Which is like, what? And he was like, enough time has passed now. Wes and Ciara, like, you know, they really had a relationship and they had, like, there was, like, drama to it. And Wes and Jesse are, like, really close friends. And it's also weird because it's, like, why jeopardize, I don't know. I think Jesse's just really underplaying his feelings. I think Jesse actually really likes Ciara and would be, like, 100% in on it being a real thing. however he's kind of going like the pussy route of like oh but like if we just make out for fun you know just be for jokes and laughs it's like actually no you have more of a leg to stand on if you were like i really like sierra and i want to pursue it instead of because then you're like why risk your friendship with west over uh a drunk make out that'd be a joke like you're saying it's a joke so why even bring it up yeah why risk having a big drama happen just own up and be like i really like sierra and then that's a different conversation and which is why i think sierra's gonna get pissed being like why would you say it's for a joke like that's lame it's also rude i don't want to make out with someone as a joke like i don't know maybe we'll just make it as a joke because they're they are very touchy they are very touchy so i'm like i don't know maybe like like i don't know what's going on there i don't know what is going through sierra's head with that because it's like does she like him like that does she not does she see him as just like a best friend that they just had that flirty relationship with but i'd be pissed too if you're like oh i just want to make like if we just made out as a joke it wouldn't be like a real thing like no well now you're just causing drama for no reason just be a man and say you like me he's talking about writing a song about a friend that he's in love with like okay jesse yeah yeah it was It took a weird turn, but I will give Summer House, I think I said already, a B. Yeah. I'm a loving Lindsay. Yeah. Lindsay's pop-ins have been fantastic for me. Yeah. She's cracking me up. She's like, she was a former publicist and now MILF. Like, she's just got some funny lines. Yeah, she has been good. She has been good. She just seems like she's in a really good place, you know? Yes. Yes. Which is good. So I'm excited to keep watching. It's, you know. Yeah. sort of the same thing every week but I enjoy watching them and I and I like um I like Mia a lot I think she fits into the house perfectly and Bailey too I think it's been it's been really funny yeah she's I appreciate her honesty I appreciate like her fully being herself yeah and like putting it all out in the open her feelings like joking about Ben like all these things she's not hiding behind anything which I which I like yeah she's totally being herself Even like the awkward flirting, I think it's hilarious. I think it's cute. Yeah. No qualms with the newbies. No, no, none. So, yeah, that's everything I watch. I'm catching up on Southern Charm. I did see some highlights from the episode this week that, oh, wow, doesn't look like a good one for Craig. It's going to catch up. That's going to be my plane watch to catch up to chat with Sally and Molly. It wasn't. I watched on the way home from Turks. And, you know, they're on this trip in Mexico. Sally is just being herself. And I respect that, too. I know it's like rubbing some people the wrong way or this, that, the other thing. Look, she's got a crush on Austin. She saw an opportunity. She pushed him into the men's bathroom and made out of him. Like, I, I, it's just, and Austin's like, I, I respected the move. Like, she just clearly took control of the situation. Um, but at the same time, they'd been drinking all day, like, a lot. Tequila tasting, to dinner, to the bar, to the whole thing. And, yeah, you, that was a, that was a drunk Craig that was not at his best. And I think Sally kind of pokes his buttons anyway. And her being like her normal, like sassy self, whatever, just like he went off and not in a bad way. There's really no, I, there's not a lot to excuse behavior like that. So he was obviously very, very drunk, but it did, it did not seem, it did not seem good. And the same even with Vanita. I don't know. Like, I know she really bothers Craig as well, but I think at a certain point you have to, like, bite your tongue and not have it escalate to that level. Because, like, you know Vanita doesn't like you, you know? So why make it a bigger thing? You're not going to get her to like you by yelling at her. So, yeah. It was a tough one. Tough. Tough. Tough episode. for Craig. And I feel like Charlie's in a weird place trying to navigate it all too. So that's tricky. Because I don't get why she is hiding that she made out with Craig. Like, you're all gonna watch it happen when the show comes out. I always think about that when they're filming reality TV. It's like, she's like, oh, I just didn't want to like tell Sally everything about me and Craig. Okay, fair. But she's gonna find out when she watches it so why not just be like i made out with craig yeah would you rather deal with an hour later yeah yeah exactly so i guess in that moment you're like i'll just deal with this later but yeah yeah but yeah that's southern charm yeah that's everything i watch yeah um okay i'll grade my love story is a c a very enjoyable c like i'm liking it yeah i'm enjoying my watch it this past episode was yeah let's just get some let's get pak in some classes this one was a c uh traitors is an a finale fantastic love is blind i'll give a b plus i guess this is really just the finale of love island australia I love on Australia. I love Island All-Stars. B? I mean, I don't know. It's a finale. Like you said, I kind of fast forward through half of it anyway. Yeah, show me the winner. Yeah. Summer House, I'll give a B+. Summer of Charm, I'll give a B+. This is a fiery episode. Fiery episode. And I'm caught up on Shrinking. That's episode five. Shrinking is an A. I just love this show so much. I know I say it every single time, but it is such a great show. Always makes me laugh. Love it. And I think I need to grade Seven Kingdoms, Night of the Seven Kingdoms, because I had not watched it by last Monday. I think I watched it last Monday night. That finale was an A. Great show. Loved it. big fan can't wait for another season after i watched the finale my entire instagram was flooded by this kid cutest kid on the face of the planet i don't know like i'm like obsessed with him this dexter what a star put him in everything oh my god he's so fucking cute and their relationship is so cute but this is what i had reshared this on my story but he's like on the carpet he's in this rainbow sequined suit i'm like i'm obsessed with this kid he is he's just got great energy um i love when they're like talking about the other game of thrones like stuff has a dragon game of thrones he's like well obviously i haven't seen it i'm 11 but so he's trying to piece the characters together he's like oh that's my granddaughter like what all these things is Because he's a star. I'm obsessed with him. Love, love, love. And that is, yeah, I think that's everything I watched. Nice. I'll give Traders an A+, by the way. I didn't grade it. Okay. I watched Paradise. Yeah. The first three episodes of Paradise. Yeah, I got to watch that. Very different than last season, obviously. mainly one because it's like focused on Shailene Woodley who's now in the show but I like how it's all being tied together like now we're on the outside of the bubble and seeing how like the survivors of that are living and it's not great right because now they all know that they're people that were alive on the outside the whole time yeah but we're seeing it from like their perspective they don't even know about this secret bubble they're just like trying to survive in the woods Right. And I think Shanley Woodley's good. And then the way that they connect her to, what's his name? The main character. Sterling Cade Brown. Yeah, Sterling Cade Brown. It's cool. And I'm excited for where it's going to go because, like, I do want to get back in the bubble. I'm like, all right, all right, three episodes, like, time to go back in. But I'll give it a B+. Good start. I finished Landman season two, so now I'm caught up for, like, whenever the next season comes out. That's a really good show. there's certain points that are like absurd and funny but it's a good show and like great actors Billy Bob Thornton he's always gonna put it on yeah can I just say I've not watched any of Landman but my god did Allie Larder look fantastic at the actor awards she just turned 50 she is so hot it's insane she looks so good it's really tough to say she looks fantastic That is my one thing with the show is the way that they have, like, the ages for their characters are so funny because she's married to Billy Bob Thornton. Yeah. In real life, she's, like, 20. Yeah, she's turned 50. I think Billy Bob Thornton's, like, in his 70s. So he's, like, way older than her. And then Billy Bob Thornton's dad, what's the – he's a famous actor. I can't think of his name, but he was in – he was Bradley Cooper's brother in – Billy Bob Thornton's dad is Sam Elliott? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They look like they're brothers at best. Like, Billy Bob Gordon could be older than him. Oh, you mean in the show? In the show. Oh, I was like, no way. It's impossible. Yeah, so like... In the show, Sam Elliott plays Billy Bob Gordon. Yeah, they're only 11 years difference in real life. But they honestly, like, no offense to Billy. He could be older than Sam Elliott. Right, they tried to age Billy Bob down. Yeah. And he does, like, he kind of looks... No, they look the same age. And then, like, Michelle Randolph is playing, like, she's just out of high school, but she's actually, like, the actual eases are so funny. You just kind of have to, like, ignore that. But very good show. Very good show. So I give that a B The Beauty I not caught up The last episode It kind of getting crazy It starting to I not really that familiar with Ryan Murphy I just kind of know his rep of, like... I wouldn't say bad shows, but bad good shows kind of thing. It's really all across the board. Because some are fantastic. There are seasons of American Horror Story that are considered fantastic levels of television. Fantastic. And you guys have never watched American Horror Story. And by the way, I would put Glee in that category too. Glee was fantastic. So it was just, you know, yeah. But yeah, it's definitely like, there's a lot of action in this past episode. I won't give it away, but a lot of people getting killed. And I'm still like, I'm still into it. I'll give this one a B-. It's kind of going like a little down for me from where it started. But Traders, I'll give a B- plus just because I'm combining the reunion where the reunion was like nothing to me. Oh, yeah, I'm counting the reunion out of my grade. I'm not putting the reunion in my grade. And like part of me is like it was such a good moment, but at the same time like it is what I expected to happen, Rob winning. So it wasn't like the Mora thing was funny. I did, leaning up to her realizing like when they were trying to get Erica out, I feel like they edited it in a way where she was like really suspicious of Rob when she wasn't. I don't know if you saw it, but she was like, they edited it where she was like looking at Rob. Mora or Tara? No, Mora. They edited it in a way where I feel like they tried to make it seem like she was like, wait, is it Rob? Is it Rob? But like, I don't think that ever, it was just editing, I think. But obviously like, great moment. And The Pit, I'll give an AMI. Oh shit, I watched The Pit yesterday too, I forgot. Yeah, just probably the best show on TV. Yeah. I don't know how I always forget to put that. Like, it's like when I'm talking about the shows, I just seem to always forget. I literally watched it yesterday. Yeah, that was a good episode. Yeah. I'll give that an A- as well. I would say, I don't know, I'm very intrigued to see, like, where it all kind of ends. Yeah. With the day, I don't know. How many episodes do we have? I don't even know. I didn't realize, like, we had, like, I thought it was going to be closer. Friends? But last year, I was thinking there was, like, 14 last year or something. Oh, maybe so. So many more. I forget. I forgot how many episodes were in season one. Yeah. But the chaos with, like, no technology and everything is cool. Yeah. Yeah. So I'll give that an A-. JFQ Jr. We talked about it. I'll give it a C. Like, I said from the beginning, like, that's the worst part of the show is his acting. um i saw one person online say like also with the like jfk jr's style is a huge thing and it's like in this show he's not wearing the clothes the clothes are wearing him where it's like he can't pull this off damn i disagree with that i think he pulls off the clothes i think he does as well i think he totally does what do you think about the hair color i see people talking about this too where i was like why is his hair not the same color as jfk jr i'm not stuck on any of his looks I'm just stuck on the acting. Once again, always stuck on the guy's look. Yeah, I'm not like... The acting is by far the worst part, but when I saw someone say that, I did think... I'm not like, oh my God, what a jarring difference in hair color. I didn't notice that either. I feel like in the show it looks like his hair is jet black, but then when you look at J.F.E. Jr. in real life, it was more of like a brown. Oh, I didn't think his hair looked black in the show. Oh, I'll call the authorities. I guess I haven't noticed it. I don't know, it seems like J.F.E. Jr.'s hair was a little more brown than what they did for him. I thought it looked brown in the show. Yeah, I don't know. That's not my life. Maybe it's the lighting you're watching it on. Yeah, maybe. I mean, he's got pretty dark hair, Noah. It's like a dark brown. It's dark brown. Yeah. Yeah, I'll just say, like, yeah, the acting. Maybe the summer months, it got a little lighter. Yeah, the acting is the worst part, definitely. But I also don't think, like, the show, like, I think the writing is, like, pretty corny. Like, why can't we just love each other? I don't know how he pulls that off in, like, a good way. Like, the writing, I feel like, is also to blame for part of it. You think that's not helping his case? It's not helping his case. Yeah. But I think, like, the acting is not great. Yeah. I watched the Paul McCartney documentary that came out on Prime, Man on the Run, which focuses on basically Paul McCartney, like, right when The Beatles ends to, like, up until, like, Wings ends. so it's a lot of like his personal life and his wife and all that um i'm a huge beatles fan it lost me like halfway through because i was like okay now i don't need to see like i wasn't that interested in like wings practicing and all that stuff like seeing like how he felt after the beatles and like all that you don't know wings what Paul McCartney, that's the band that's Live and Let Die, Ben on the Run that's a band those are all songs by Wings got it, got it I just always think about that, like I just think I'm like, that's Paul McCartney he was just under his own name no, because when they first ended he put out a couple albums as Paul McCartney and they didn't really have the greatest reception even though I think they're great albums and then he started his own band as Wings it was just called Wings Wings, yeah. Gotcha. Just kind of thought, I feel like I just always went with Paul McCartney. Paul McCartney, yeah. Yeah. The way they did the documentary is cool, though, like very cool animations and everything. But I'll give it a B, only because I'm not that interested in a full hour or two hours of just stuff about the wings. I wanted to hear about John Lennon and the Beatles breakup and all that stuff was interesting. um it was cool actually they said that one point like right before john lind died paul mccartney was in the city and he was like at uh the dakota where john lind lives and they were just like hanging out and it was like on saturday and they were like what if we just go to snl like because snl was happening that night like and just show up and like make it a whole thing like on the show and they were gonna do it and then like at the last second they were like actually no like we don't need to but that would have been like crazy because they never like did a public thing together after they broke up true um and then i watched the first two episodes of season this new season of shrinking um it's it's exactly what i remember it as like i love i don't love it as much as fran i love it just because it is like that ted lasso type of like where everything's so wholesome and like it's nice but it's almost too them being friends with the guy who killed her i don't like That's not realistic to me. I can't buy into that. I'm happy that What's Her Face called him out in whatever past episode I saw. Because that's how they should feel. Is this the second season or the third season? This is the third. Because I watched the first season, but I don't think I watched the second one. I like that guy's character, and I actually do like his banter and everything. but if you really think about it it's like the daughter and dad of like he killed their yes but I think it's kind of like it wasn't an immediate forgiveness he hated his guts for a long time and you can forgive him but to be like best friends and hanging out with him every day now is kind of weird but I think it makes a lot of sense in the therapist way of like well now they saw how fucked up he was that it's like because Jason Deagle's character I just think has an innate need to help people even when it's detrimental to everybody. Like, that's, like, the whole point. It's, like, he has these kind of wild methods. So it's funny that it's like, oh, this guy, yeah, it's extreme, but it's like, oh, this guy killed his wife, but, like, he's in a bad place and needs help, and he's like, well, fuck it. I'm going to have to be the one to help. Yeah. But he's not, I will say, he's not in it for much longer in the season. It's not like after that, he kind of goes off on his own. Yeah, but it's like a, it's an enjoyable watch. Yeah. So I'll give that a B, but I can see why people give it an A. That's like what you're going to say. It's really, yeah, it just, it's, I love it. It's so good. And that's everything I watch. All right, that is everything we watch this week. I'm going to miss, I'm going to miss the Traders' Recaps. Yeah. Womp womp. Picture this. It's Monday morning, like today. You open up your laptop and Outlook hits you with 87 unread emails. Your calendar now looks like a game of Tetris. Your boss wants a report, your team wants a presentation, and you just want to take a nap. 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We were so drunk we left that Noah had to record the ads himself. Yeah. He texted us and was like, excuse me, guys. I forgot about him having to do the ads. Yeah. And now you guys are married like time. Yeah, I know. That's true. We're not drunk anymore. No. No, we are not. Sometimes. I don't know. The last time I saw you, we were still drunk. We were still drunk, yes. Down in Florida. Yes. Like, not that long ago. We had a fucking blast. But, like, Tyler was like, Fran, put your drinking hat back on. Like, let's get back to how it was. And she brought it. She brought it. She still has it. She still has it. Lots of flip cup. Yes, of course. Really, really bringing it back. But we are excited that you're back. It's been a while. Have you been in this studio? No. The last time. Was I here? Yeah, the last time we did was in here. The decor's a little different. Yeah. Yeah. I couldn't remember if that was. It was in 2023. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you're back in New York and you've made it perfectly in time for a massive snowstorm. Yes. Which is fun or not fun for you as a Florida guy? It was the time of my life. Yeah. I mean, I built a snowman with Matt. Yeah. And I joined a gigantic 200-person snowball fight. I was thriving yesterday. Was the snowman as big as Matt said he was going to build a snowman? It was huge. Yeah. It was about like 14 feet. Wow. Like, I had people on my shoulders putting snow on top of the snowmen. You know, like, it really was the perfect, like, packing snow. Yeah. Walking around. Like, that's why there were so many snowmen out there. Perfect packing snow. It was a magical day. Did it make you miss New York at all? Because you had a little bit of time living in New York City. I don't know. I blacked out, really. Once the snowball started going, I was in the middle yelling and, like, this is war. And I really just went back to, like, just my old college crazy days for, like, three hours. Yeah. Which is fun, but at the same time, like, it takes it out of you. Oh, I was fully, like, sweating through my snowsuit. Well, it looks like you came, did the snowsuit, you just were lucky that you had a snowsuit? I was lucky I had a snowsuit. I just came off, like, a brand triple Michelob Ultra. They gave us all these onesies. Yeah. And so I rocked that onesie all throughout the city yesterday. Thank God, because I, what do you even pack? Because we were talking about with Rhea, she's like, I can't even go outside because I don't have a single thing of things. That's crazy. You guys live here. No, I know. It's insane. Trust me. I am not defending myself. I said, I'm the asshole who does not have snow gear. And I don't know why. It's like, I was saying, like, I did like a closet clean out in the summer, got rid of like my snow boots, my rain boots. And I, you know, maybe told myself, oh, I'll get new ones or maybe I won't. Just never did. It was just a beautiful day. Yeah. You know, you got little kids ganging up on me, throwing snowballs at me. Because they got a real snow day, which rarely happens now. Like, they actually were off school. These kids, these little kids were rascals. And they just demolished me, buried me. Like, I was just some punk throwing it in my face. And then all of a sudden, their mom was like, all right, kids, time to go. Like, yes, ma'am. And they just march off. Then you had everybody throwing at each other. No one was mad when you got just destroyed by a snowball. It was a beautiful day. New York City was thriving yesterday. It was. I want to talk about your brand trips. We're going to get into the Bachelor Mansion takeover, which we're very excited about. But you just mentioned that you want a brand trip. You seem like a brand trip guy. You know what I mean? I do feel like that's where you thrive. You got a brand trip. You and Tate are on a lot of brand trips lately. Are you guys bringing the fun? Are you the guy there? I feel like our role in the brand trips is that we got to bring the energy. So we come in hot to start. And then what we do is we get the party going. We're excited. We're having a great time. Personality hires, yes. and then all of a sudden, like, the party's going, Irish exit. We get out because we know tomorrow we have to be the tone setters again. Right, right, right. So you're starting the party or never ending the party? Never ending the party. There's a lot of pressure. I'm with you, though. Like, starting the party's great because you get everyone else going and then you've got the party finished, the ones that never want to leave. Yeah, yeah. And those people will drag it out all night, you know. You've got to know when. 33. It doesn't hit the same anymore. 33 is still very young. You're saying I'm 33. I know, but I'm like, ah, let's beat the crowd. We were at a Kygo concert. Opry Ski. It was like the coolest thing ever. It was like what you see in Europe here. And so I was like, oh, this is great, but we all have to go down the gondola. Right, right, right. And I'm going to beat this crowd. I was the first one gone. Absolutely. Beat the crowd. We know that the show ends at 1230. It's 12. Let's learn. Exactly. Exactly. Often I'm okay missing the last song of something because of beating the crowd. It was like last five songs? Hot debate. Hot debate. Because people talk about that all the time, especially going to concerts in New York City. What did you say? Hot debate? It's a hot debate. Oh, hot debate. Hot debate. Hot debate. Hot debate. Hot topic. Yeah, it's a hot topic. Because it's like whenever you leave a concert or anything in New York City, it can be a crazy hassle. You don't get on the train or the subway's packed. Can't get a car. Can't get a cab. So people will miss the last song for a concert. And that can really grind. Would you stay for the last Jonas Brothers song? Always. I'm not a leave early from a concert person. I'm like, because most of the time the last song is the one you're all waiting to hear. So, but like, if you're strategic and you know maybe right before you get that first chorus and then you start to just move, walk out. You get a little bit of the last song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You just get that last chorus. But no, these trips look like so much fun and you're with some super fun people. Yes. All people that you're, like, meeting for the first time are people that you normally know already? 50-50. Yeah. Like, this was the first time I really got to hang out with Joe and Kelsey. I've met him in passing. Really? And Justin Glaze. Okay. Yeah. Great people there. I will sing Justin Glaze's praises forever. Yeah. Because he is one of the funniest people I've ever been around. Incredible. Kelsey Anderson, too. Kelsey is terrible. She is so funny. So funny. Like, those two together, incredible. Like, amazing group. Yeah. Like, we're doing more stuff with them. Like, it's going to be a lot of fun. Yeah, there's certain, you know, not to play favorites, but I do find when I'm, like, scrolling Instagram and I see a brand trip and I see the group, there's ones where I'm like, damn, this looks like a good group. And so then I'm like, wouldn't want to be on that one. But that one this past weekend when you guys were, where were you in Aspen? We were in Park City. Park City. I was like, that looks like a really fun group. I think Camille Costick was here too. Oh, my God. That girl's thing. Oh, I forgot what it was. but everyone she had everyone singing acapella there was no music it was just like beautiful moments I just sat there proud I was just like look at this beautiful crew that's so nice that's so nice and it's fun and it's fun that you and Tate get to do it all together because honestly Tate's outshining you these days she is she is she's she's the real talent around here yeah I'm just you know washed and uh and she's she's you know hopefully I can rest my feet and her hand work hard so my hands can look like this oh you know well my mom absolutely adores Tate and it's funny because my mom and she repeats herself all the time because she always says she's like you know i just i just love a girl that can pick up a drill and knows what to do with it and i'm like you do since when like it's not like she's it's not like she's someone she's doing that ever no that is so good she can appreciate one that does she's like she's on she's on that top of that ladder painting the ceiling like she and and it does crack me and she's incredibly talented and she's beautiful and she's funny and she's really got it all. She's got the whole package. She does. She truly does. She does. I'm just along for the ride, it seems like. You know, I'm just trying to hold on and keep up. Absolutely, and you should hold on as tight as you can. You guys have all been joking a lot, too, because I know Rachel Kirkconnell has been on a lot of these trips with you guys and it's been an ongoing joke. And I think there was sort of like some, what do you say, like some iffy, questionable time in like the last year-ish plus of like, are they all still friends are they not and then all of a sudden it's like bam look at all these videos of them all hanging out you guys are good yeah me and rachel are great like wait we're good friends you know um there's a there's a custody battle happening right now you did post that rachel got custody yeah so i get like every other weekend with matt yeah so i was with i got him this weekend yeah yeah and you got to build snowman with that building snowman and snowball fights like really felt like a good father-son bonding moment. A very divorced dad thing to do. Hey, son, let's go play. Yeah, let's bond a little bit. No, well, it was funny coming off right off the heels of that because people were talking about that TikTok and the YouTube video and, you know, the bubble above Rachel of, like, she got custody. But then all of a sudden you turn around and you're with Matt and I was like, okay, that's, you know. And it doesn't cause any issues for either of them? No. No. You know, I think they're both in their respective own lives now. I can be friends with Matt and I can be friends with Rachel. Me and Matt, we go back now almost 10 years. You can make jokes about it. We can laugh about it. We can joke about it. I completely agree. I love both of them. It's tricky. I can still root for both of them. I want Rachel to find someone. I'm always trying to put her with someone who I think is a good person because I care about her and I care about her finding love. Same with Matt. I'm always thinking of her. always like who should she date next yeah she's gonna i'm also living for her just living her life right now as well without dating anybody it's like she's killing it she's thriving and she's doing great they both are honestly like matt on the same side like he is like i think in like the best space he's been in a long time it's so hard to do what they did yeah it's so hard to to to be in that light to date and you know being a lead and having your person that you picked and all that they went through is incredibly tough. And then the breakup was a little wild, but any breakup is a bad breakup. Yeah. So it's just like for them to navigate where they are now, like they're both thriving, they're both doing their own things, and I can love them both and cheer for them both. And, you know, it does feel like mom and dad. Yeah. Because, like, when we all lived together, Rachel was always looking at me like, what are you doing? Like, what were you doing last night? Why is she here? Like, you know, you could be doing better than this. And I was like, at first I was like, shut up, Mom. And now I'm like, Mom was right. She was right. And the tables have kind of turned, too, because I feel like Rachel is living in this single girl era where she is having fun. And, like, going out with her is a blast. It is. I think she is. That girl's a rocket. She can party. She's an absolute blast. We had so much fun that weekend. We were all out together. She's so fun. But that's good that everybody can hang out. and now you guys, you got a new show coming out. Yes. Which is really exciting. You've gone full, like, you really have gone full construction guy. Yeah. You're the contractor. You're developing real estate. You're a real estate agent now as well? Real estate agent, general contractor, property manager. You name it, I got it. You got it all. Yeah. So you're doing it all, and now you're redoing the bachelor mansion. Yes. Which is a task and honestly something that really needed to be done. It definitely needed to be done. Like, this house has not been touched in, like, 26 years. And when I say one of the cool moments about it, like, when we were, like, breaking through the walls, we would take off chunks of paint on the walls. It would be, like, that thick. And it was, like, every color throughout the years painted over each other. So it would be, like, you know, like a tree of life. Like, you see all the tree rings? It was, like, paint rings. Paint rings. And it would be, like, you could see a purple. You could see a maroon. You could see a yellow. You could see all that. And I was, like, hmm, right here in, like, the red is, like, where I must have been kissing Hannah. You know what I mean? You're protracting the area. It's like a history. Exactly. Just count the colors down. I'm like, ah, this must have been my era. Right. Those walls hold a lot of secrets and a lot of things happening. And all they did was just paint it and go to the next season. Right. Everything moved quickly in that house. But you are judging with Tayshia and it's hosted by Jesse Palmer along with, I think, 12 other contestants who are, you know, putting in the work for this. How exciting was this for you to be able to, like, sit back and judge it? You know, when I got to, when I came back to the mansion, that's when it all started to hit me. I was like, because that's seven years ago. It was a blur for me. Wow. So much time. It's so much time. It's actually crazy. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Seven years. We were rolling loud together in L.A. Oh, my God. Oh, God. That was 2019. Like, that is so crazy. That was. And just to be back in that spot and start to, like, I forgot so many things. And then to be in it, you start to remember it. And then to be, like, full circle, like, I'm on my dream network, HUTV, doing a, you know, renovation show about the bachelor mansion like where it all started like this is one of the most famous houses in america yeah that we get to be a part of this renovation it's just so cool was it hard to like step back from being involved in like the actual no work i do this for a living i'm in the middle flipping two homes right now like let me get in there yeah no i was like you guys got this. It was fun to be on the other side of it. Yeah. Because this is a joy. I get to sit back and judge people and watch and see how they work. There's some times where you kind of want to steer them, but you got to let them go. What was that like judging some of your peers? It was fun. It's like you learn to love all of them. They become like a family. You know what I mean? but that family fights and that family has drama and you can't believe that like, cause everyone wants their own vision to go and everyone has their own belief of what the house should look like. So now you have people fighting and drama happening. Like it is bachelor drama in a reno show. Honestly, I love that. It's just a nice little change up from like dating drama. Like let's find out what this house is going to look like. You get the mix of cast members from different seasons, different ages and everything. And you're putting them in something that isn't love based because everything is always like love based. So it's just more growing up. We care about these homes. That's what our homes are looking like. You take love out, you put $100,000 in there. It's like the same thing. People get ruthless. Who surprised you the most, would you say, from who was competing? Who surprised? So there's a lot of surprises. I think you'll be surprised at what you would think. Like, oh, can the guys design? And there were some guys that had some really good design ideas and thoughts. And, you know, I'm like, did your girlfriend tell you to do all these things? You know, can you actually give us an example of maybe like I don't know if it's sharing too much or not. But because when we talked about the show, we were so curious really about the setup and everything that like what people were actually going to be doing. What's like an example of a of a challenge that people were doing? I mean, like, for instance, like we did the backyard. Right. Or episode one's the bunk rooms. So these guys are building out all these bunk rooms, designing them. They're all in the saws. They're all chopping for the trim. They're doing everything. They're painting. They're really doing everything. They're really getting into it. I was so shocked. They're cutting tile, and they were doing this backyard grill, and the craftsmanship was against the rock wall, so they were making cuts all along the rock wall with the tile. That's impressive stuff. I'm excited to watch Noah. I feel like he's going to be really good because he's someone that I feel like posts a lot of, like, renovation stuff that him and Abigail are always, like, doing cool stuff. And Dean as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll tell you what. Abigail knows a lot of good things. Yeah. So that'll be fun to watch. Yeah, I can see that. Dean's a riot, you know. Yeah. The Goldens were, like, you would think the Goldens would be in the back of the line. No. No. They were fighting to be in the front. Well, that's the strongest. Yeah, and that's the strongest opinion. It's like if you're, you all know, like, if you're doing any kind of work in your house or apartment, home, whatever, the strongest opinion is coming from, like, your parents. They're like, why would you pick that color? That's hideous. You should have gone with this. So I bet I could see them having, like, a lot of, guys, let's do it this way. And you get some villains, you know, and you got villains that were on the show in the past coming on. Like, it's a lot of feuding going on. Like, it's... I like it. We love watching it from the background. Yeah, definitely. I don't put it past there to be villains even when it comes to a home renovation show. No, because, like, think about it. Every great Bachelor season had an amazing villain. Yeah. You need it to keep people interested. Whether that person was really a villain or not, there's always a villain. That is true. Do you miss anybody from Bachelor Nation that you've lost contact with at all? No, I'm just kidding. I wouldn't blame you if you were like, oh no. You know who I'm trying to lose contact of is Dylan. Honestly, us two. Gosh, did that guy lose my number? Poor Hannah Godwin. That guy's a menace. Oh, man. I know, it is true. I mean, it is true, though. When you receive a text from Dylan, you're just like, what? He'll text us about something so random, and we're just like, this is so Dylan. Like, what was that that he texted us? Something about traitors. I didn't even answer. I was like, well, this doesn't even mean about straighters. Well, there was, like, this drunk guy harassing some girls on TikTok, and he's like, I swear I believe this is Tyler Cameron. I'm like, out of nowhere. You know what I mean? I'm like, go away, Dylan. It's very random. Yeah. Yeah, you never know, which, honestly, is impressive. You know who I miss? And every time I get to see him, it's such a joy. Pilot Pete. Pilot Pete, you know, Pilot Pete. We've had our ups and downs with Pilot Pete, and we loved to, like, joke about it. And then let me, like, Pilot Pete is the sweetest guy. There is. He's a golden retriever. I have never, like... I don't think you've ever really had... We met him years ago. We did one interview with him, like, at the very start of his season. And it was, like, a serious... Like, it was, like, very official, and... I have not seen him since. Yeah. During filming of this show, it happens to be, like, five minutes from where Pete lives. Okay. Like, his parents and everything like that. So I got invited to dinner. Oh, that's nice. With Barb? With the wevers. Yeah, and I got to finally meet Barb, and I got to meet his dad. and I left there and I was like that's the happiest family in America the joy I totally can see that we're doing this beautiful song right before dinner hand in hand she made an incredible meal I had so much fun I left there just happiness that's why it's hard for him to find someone who can fit into that level of unity Barb was iconic television. She really was. That was amazing. It was really peak. You hope you can get something like that again, but it's lightning in a bottle. Like her being in a little tiny square on the TV. It really was. No. I saw him. We did a ping pong tournament at the Super Bowl last. Not this most recent one, the one before. and leave it to Pilot Pete to get his face, like, sliced open by a paddle. Oh, yeah. Like, it was, like, unbelievable. It was, I couldn't. I think it was Micah Parsons. Yeah, no, it was. That's hilarious. It was just, like, you're getting smacked in the face. That's such a Pilot Pete move. And he's, like, am I bleeding? We're, like, yeah, you're gushing blood. It's just, like, a little accident prone. Yes, he is. But, no, he handled it like a champ, which was very funny. But, no, we're excited to watch the show because you got a lot going on. You're doing that, but you're also doing, like, way more home renovation stuff at home. What's some of the stuff you and Tate are up to right now? Yeah. Well, I think the biggest thing is we just launched a tool line. You know, our big thing is – My mom said, a drill. The girl knows a drill. And we got it. Now Tate has her own drill. We are partnering with Tinker Tools, and, like, we are, like, real partners. And we are building this business with them. This isn't just, like, your one post, and we'll see you later. This is like, no, like she is like creative director and she's helping design everything. And it's really aesthetically pleasing, beautiful tools for like mainly the women to buy. Because if you go to Home Depot. Yeah, they're ugly. Everything's ugly. I have a pink screw gun. It's just like so classic. That is so classic. But like everything is made for the man there. Yeah. And when 40% of your buyers are women and they're the ones that spend, I think it was like three times more money in Home Depot than men do. Like, what is for them? So we came out with this, like, aesthetically pleasing tool set. It's beautiful. You can leave it out. You don't want to just throw this thing away. Like, if you have it out, it's fine. I love that. Yeah. And it's every tool you need for at home for all your simple projects. And then we also have, like, barcodes on there that are QR codes. Is that what they call it? The kids call it these days? Yeah. QR codes. And you scan it. It teaches you how to use the stuff that we have in there. Perfect. It's such a good idea because everybody needs a tool set at home. Like, it's the number one thing. I think people forget that you need to have it hands-on literally for anything. And like you said, like even simple projects. But then also such a good idea to have the QR code to kind of tell people how to use it. Well, it's intimidating. Yeah. And I think what's so cool about Tate is like I want people to – everyone's probably tired of someone mansplaining how to do something. We've all heard our dad tell us, well, you just do this and you do that. But now it's like Tate teaching you how to do it. And like I think our goal with Tinker is to become like the tasty of DIY. like we want to show you guys how to hang the tv how to you know align all these beautiful pictures on the wall how to you know what are the rules of design that are really easy to learn and all that stuff so i think that's our big goal with that yeah that's awesome i am not handy at all and then we dropped the youtube series so we're trying to take all of our home rental stuff from jupiter all of our local projects and put it on there and just kind of show you what really is besides like the 30 seconds you get on Instagram or talk. So that's been fun. We launched that. We've got a great responses. We have two houses that we're about to start. One that we're already working on and the one I'm closing on on Friday and then we'll get to work. That's awesome. And I feel like this is so great for you because it channels what you love to do the most. And a lot of times, and now we're going back years and we said seven years ago. Now when people go on to a reality TV show, they go through that, then they kind to get stuck in that world then it's like well what do i do next you know but you did that and then now you are also following your passion and what you know and love to do yeah like intertwined with that which i think is great i think it's hard the fame in the right way i think yeah i think now it's crazy like we're trying to merge the social media with the real estate and i think everyone loves home content like i think we were always so nervous about posting it and then we just launched our house and like that went pretty viral when we did our house and i was like see tate like you can do this now i'm like all right we're gonna start a business you're gonna be an interior designer i got i got 19 jobs for you she's like no yeah yeah i like so but it's uh it's been a lot of fun she's incredibly talented so this is a great way to showcase her skills and uh you know we'll we have a house right now we're doing it's going to be a a fun short-term rental that'll be like retro modern and different and funky and she's got tile choices that i'm like oh god but i know i just have to let her go and do it you guys got that like um what's their face chip and joanne chip and joanna you know like because i was gonna say i was gonna say going way back and thinking like that ty pennington which is also move that bus like which is also something absolutely you guys could do but now i feel like tate is so important to what you guys are doing it's it's a partnership yeah type of thing which is great because um it's so fun to see what you guys are are working on and then what uh what about all the real estate you know you're working with ryan starhan how did you get into that so when my amazon show was coming out we had coffee uh and he was like you need to get your license to come work for me like this would be great for your career added to what you're doing and he was really wanting me to live in the city yeah and do that and i was just so busy perhaps beyond owning manhattan yeah i definitely i definitely did not see what he was saying you know what i mean i definitely did not You weren't following the whole trail of where you were going with that one. So I missed that bus, right? But I got my license last October, and I've really gotten to be around him a lot. Yeah. That is the hardest working man I've ever been around. You can see him on the show. Yeah. But he's so good to everybody. He's an incredible leader. So, like, I've had – it just inspires me. It motivates me. And then the power of his name. Yeah. My first listing was $7.5 million. We're under contract at 6.9, like an incredible deal. We're going to set the record for Singer Island by like $400 a square foot over what has ever been done. I'm doing 24 townhomes in Hutchinson Island, new development as like a lead agent. Like if you watch the show, everyone's trying to get new dev. Yeah. Like I already got my first new dev project. And I'm like, I don't even, I'm still learning how to write the contract correctly. You know what I mean? I have transaction coordinator holding my hand. You're just in like, you're just in the right area for it. You know, like it's just such a popular area. Everyone wants to be in Jupiter or Palm Beach. Everyone wants to be in that area right now. It's like it's thriving. It's like there's only so much new stuff you can get in New York. It's like there's only so much space here. But seeing everything that they're building there. You keep having snowstorms and you get your property taxes increased again, it sounds like. You come to Florida where we're about to get rid of property taxes and we already don't have to save income taxes. So if you want to save your money, chicks in the office. Believe me. I'll help you all get some houses. Yeah, it wouldn't be the first time Marie and I have had that conversation. What if we just fucked off to Florida? We just love it around here too much. You guys know I can build this for you anywhere. He just had perked up. He said, wait a second. That is new. I've been trying to get a revamp in here. That is so weird. You should come redo this studio here. That could be good for an episode. Should we do that? Yeah. Should we do a little YouTube Tinker series here and then redo your episode? We actually would fucking love that. We would love that. That's a real thing. Should we let Kate design it? Yes, 100%. I'm actually being dead serious right now. We don't have the eye. We don't. We've talked about how we really... I wasn't going to say anything, guys. Listen, this studio is... No, this has been now, what, three years? Yeah. Three, four years. It's outdated. And we want something cool and stylish, a little bit more adult. A little sexy. A little sexy, yeah. This was pretty hip when we first did it. It was. Listen, it was cool, but now we've outgrown it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love this idea. Okay, I like this. I like this, guys. I actually think we're going to be on your case. This is what we're going to do. We're going to get a group chat going. We're going to get a mood board. We're going to get this figured out. Yeah, we'll have it be like moody kind of with darker colors. Okay. All right, perfect. Thanks, Tyler. I love this. I love this. Maybe we'll get hired throughout this office. This office needs a lot of help. It does. It's like a bad frat house. Yeah, and to be honest, it's like at this point, I don't know. Like this office, how long do we have this lease? I don't know. I think it might be like two or three more years. Like it's worth it for us to do this. We can redo our studio. I don't know if we're going to talk to you outside. We'll get out of here. Let it burn. But this, we can make something really hot. We'll get you a satellite office in Florida. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is what we need. All you guys need is six months and a day. I know. Believe me, I know. Save you 13% like that, guys. You know, we run our, not a lot of people run their press tours through West Palm Beach. It's changing, guys. It's changing. Yeah, it is. You're in New York. I know. I know. Yeah. I know. I know. I know. You get some fantastic guests on the show, and they're not in Florida. Kate Huston's here. Kate Huston is here. Oh, I love it, though. Kate Huston doesn't care about 13% stating your guess. She's good with it. No, she's good. But I care. That's such a good idea, though. And, Tyler, we're super excited to watch everything that you've been doing and keep up with everything. And we love your TikToks and you and Tate together. I appreciate you guys. We're crushing it. We're going to keep watching it. And you know what? Tune in. Because you have to see this studio get a revamp. I love that. Forget the Bachelor Mansion. Everyone watch the Bachelor Mansion get redone. March 2nd, it'll be released weekly. It'll be practically tonight. Yeah, when this premieres, it'll be tonight. HGTV. Tonight, it goes down. Yeah. You can see it all happen. Very excited to watch and see you do that and follow along and everything. Tate just had her own line with South Moon Under come out. So go shop that, too. Exactly. Exactly. She's so cool. She is. She's so cool. She is. Yeah. I don't know what she sees. I don't know. Thanks. No, no. You guys are an amazing pair. We love it. Thank you. Thanks so much for coming in. We'll work on our new podcast studio. Yes. Very excited. Let's get that mood board going, girls. Thanks, Tyler. And it is an honor to be here with you guys again for the 17th time, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, there used to be days where we could not lock you in for an interview. So we're not happy here. And your hair is so much better these days. Thanks, Tyler. Thank you. I appreciate it. And you're wearing makeup now. Yeah, I know. All right. That wraps it up. All right. That wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. Reminder, no episode this Wednesday because we are traveling, but we will be back with an episode on Friday. Can't wait to see you guys at the shows. Reminder, bring your signs. And we're so excited to hang out with you guys. All right. 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