Middle School Mary Poppins

S2 EP 15 - Food for Mood 2: Sweet Dreams are Made of This

21 min
Jan 13, 20265 months ago
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Summary

This episode explores how specific foods and flavors can help regulate everyday emotions in middle school students, including anxiety, disgust, embarrassment, envy, boredom, and motivation. Host Suzanne M. Swain, an educator and therapist, provides evidence-based nutritional strategies and brain science explanations for managing emotional states through dietary choices.

Insights
  • Anxiety and excitement use identical brain chemistry; the difference lies in direction and perception, making redirection through learning more effective than forcing calm
  • Disgust is a protective emotion deserving respect rather than pressure; expanding food preferences works best when the person is ready, not when forced
  • Embarrassment can escalate to deep-seated anger if not carefully managed, making emotional safety and comfort foods critical interventions
  • Boredom is distinct from laziness and signals the brain needs stimulation; it can lead to anxiety if unaddressed
  • Sustained motivation comes from proper nutrition (protein, complex carbs, healthy fats) rather than caffeine or willpower alone
Trends
Growing recognition of food-mood connection in school-based mental health interventionsNeurodivergent-specific nutritional approaches gaining traction in educational settingsAromatherapy and sensory-based regulation strategies complementing traditional emotional supportMicronutrient deficiencies (magnesium, B vitamins, iron, B12) being linked to emotional dysregulation in youthShift from restriction-based to nourishment-based nutrition education for emotional wellnessIncreased focus on social-emotional learning tied to physiological needs in middle school curriculumL-theanine and green tea extracts gaining attention as natural anxiety management tools for students
Topics
Food and emotional regulation in adolescentsAnxiety management through nutrition and sensory inputNeurodivergent students and social-emotional learningMagnesium and B vitamin deficiency effects on moodDisgust as a protective emotion in food preferencesEmbarrassment and social belonging in middle schoolEnvy, comparison, and perfectionism in youthBoredom versus laziness and brain stimulation needsMotivation and sustained energy through proper nutritionAromatherapy for emotional regulationCaffeine effects on neurodivergent individualsComfort foods and emotional safetyTexture and sensory engagement in food choicesMicronutrient supplementation for mood supportCooking as creative and sensory engagement activity
People
Suzanne M. Swain
Host of the podcast; veteran middle school teacher and working school therapist providing educational content on food...
Quotes
"Anxiety and excitement use the same brain chemistry as well. So the difference is the direction."
Suzanne M. SwainEarly in episode
"Anxiety doesn't need force. It just needs safety and direction."
Suzanne M. SwainAnxiety section
"Boredom is not laziness. Bored means that you want to learn, but nobody's stimulating you."
Suzanne M. SwainBoredom section
"Motivation doesn't really come from pressure or willpower. So it's really from just steady energy."
Suzanne M. SwainMotivation section
"Food is culture food is family food is so tied to who we are as a society is a world. We're all connected through food."
Suzanne M. SwainClosing remarks
Full Transcript
Well, hey y'all, welcome back. This is part two of the Food for Your Mood special that we're doing on emotions and how food can affect you. So really excited to have you here. If you're new, welcome, welcome! And if you haven't listened to part one yet, that's totally fine. Part one, we talked about the core emotions like joy and sadness and anger and fear. But today we're moving into what I like to call the everyday emotions. So that's, you know, the ones that sneak up on us and run the show, you know, socially like anxiety, embarrassment, envy, ennui, or boredom, and motivation. So I wanted to add that in there too. So how's it going? My name is Suzanne M. Swain, EDS, LMSW, and I am a veteran middle school teacher as well as a working therapist in the schools right now. So glad to have you here at Middle School Mary Poppins. The website is msmerrypoppins.com. Check it out. We're going to be putting up parent guides, family, you know, all kinds of family resources, as well as educational guides. I've made a bunch of posters and all kinds of neat stuff that you can download and utilize. It's got Steve on it. So also Steve has been a wonderful nurse, a little update. Steve's been sleeping on my pillow every night with his little chin on my shoulder. It's so cute. But unfortunately, the continuing saga of the surgery, I was supposed to have it on Tuesday the 6th, but they called at the last minute and said that they are still waiting on insurance, so it's bumped to next week. So it's, yeah, hopefully it'll be over pretty soon. So in any case, no big deal, but excited just to get it done. So, but all right. Well, before we begin, a quick reminder though, I am not a doctor. I'm not a nutritionist. This is educational information based on research, all of my lived experience working in the schools, and many, many years of, you know, talking about nutrition and dealing with my own issues with food as I was a pretty big kid. So, but if you have any questions about your kid's nutrition or your own, please talk to a medical professional and, you know, deal with that appropriately, but just wanted to make that clear. All right. So let's get started with America's favorite or not, emotion, anxiety. Hello, Maya Hawk. This is basically an imagination that is just not having any fun at all. Imagination is the other side of anxiety, same part of the brain, same thing, you know. Imagination is when creativity starts happening and you run down really cool rabbit holes and get really excited about stuff. As I've been doing with this podcast, honestly, it's been so much fun to make this and been making it from scratch. I did all the stuff. So that's imagination and creativity and I've been just swimming around in creativity and it's great. But many of us suffer from anxiety where it's what happens when the brain gets stuck in a loop, kind of racing thoughts and restlessness and the what ifs and oh my gosh and the mental spirals that don't really seem to turn off. So kind of like an inside out where you remember the scene where anxiety kind of goes into that spiral at the end and, you know, we all felt the feels on that. Well, here's something important to know though. Anxiety and excitement use the same brain chemistry as well. So the difference is the direction. So a little bit of brain science so you can understand what's going on. So this is psycho education. Okay, so the brain in the nervous system is stuck in a heightened alert state, right? So you're all kind of aware and like, whoa, like your shoulders are pricked or ears are pricked as they say. The amygdala, which I like to call Amy because it's really spelled Amy G Dala D A L A. So I just call her Amy. I'm like, Amy girl, calm down. So the amygdala, the brain's alarm system is really overactive and the thinking part of the brain has a lot of trouble calming down when they get like that because, you know, adrenaline and all that. So the body really needs predictability and steadiness and some gentle regulation. Just be like, okay, this is going to be fine. Let's do this now. Sometimes low levels of magnesium and B vitamins can be associated with anxiety in kids and teens and things like that. Some helpful research has been done on L-theanine, which is a green tea extract supplement. It is just green tea. I've been taking it myself for my anxiety and I actually really like it, but that's just my own personal opinion. You'd have to check it out for yourself, but I did a lot of research and found it to be really interesting. Okay. So when anxiety is high, the nervous system really wants gentle and kind of familiar. So mildly sweet or warm flavors. So the less sensory input, the better. So some foods that may work for that would be like oatmeal, bananas, warm milk, chamomile tea, small amounts of dark chocolate. But one helpful trick is eating while learning something new actually is a great redirect. I like to give lemon heads and then teach something new and be like, hey, check out this new toy I got. You know, and let's play with it or whatever. And that seems to redirect. I mean, it's the art of redirection and it can be used for good and evil in a way, but to the good, you just got to distract the mind from that spiral mode into imagination and creativity mode. So usually learning something new is the way to do that. So the brain wants to learn. It really does. So anxiety doesn't need force. It just needs safety and direction. So that is the one thing that I think is really important about anxiety that we all need to remember is that like people when someone's freaking out in an anxiety spiral, we get kind of mad at them sometimes. We're like, you know, calm down. And that is not what they need. You know, they need someone to just give them a big hug and just like Joy did, just be like, it's okay. I'm here for you. I'm listening, you know, those kinds of things. So with children, we don't want to, you know, scare them or anything like that. We just want to simply give them that support that they need. Okay, here's one that comes around in the middle school years. Disgust. Oh my goodness. I do not want that. Yeah, that is so gross. Yeah, I've been there. So discuss is a private and protective type of emotion. Its job is to help us avoid things that feel unsafe or unpleasant or really overwhelming. So the body is just wanting trust and respect for the internal boundaries it has. So there's really no single food fix for disgust because it's something that you don't like. So it goes into the fear spiral of where a lot of times it just, you don't like it because either well, one, you're, you know, your taste buds can say, not really my thing, or more likely it's just that you haven't, you know, you need to know more about the type of food and you know, maybe watch a show or something like that that can help. So the most effective regulation strategy here is just honoring the preferences and avoiding pressure. So really, yeah, you want to try to expand your flavor profile or whatever it is that you don't like. Maybe, maybe you don't like the smell of certain things and that's fine. You know, some people have that cilantro thing, but disgust is the body saying absolutely hard no and it deserves respect. So that's fine. When someone is ready to expand their profile, whether it be through food or, you know, the scent profile that they like or what have you, that's fine. But also too, like with the little plugins that you may use as middle school teachers, I know we use them because it, it has a smell. But a lot of times you want to use fruit flavored smells and nothing with flowers because a lot of middle school kids, they're during puberty, they have heightened senses of smells. So sometimes flower smells can be a lot. So just saying, okay, bless his little heart. Embarrassment. Well, embarrassment is definitely a social emotion that's tied to belonging. You know, you got to feel like you belong to a group or you want to belong to a group to feel that embarrassment. It's an etiquette based emotion. So you learn social rules, social cues. And for a lot of neurodivergent kids, this can be really hard because a lot of times they have social issues where they don't really understand why people behave the way they do and maybe behave in a different fashion. So embarrassment can be something that a lot of neurodivergent kids know really, really well, because they just don't understand sometimes and can feel a shame, a sense of shame, or perhaps maybe that they don't belong, which is sad. But I think embarrassment is something that can lead a lot of middle school kids down this pathway of where they become violent and things like that. So we have to watch embarrassment very, very carefully because it can turn into anger and very, very deep set anger if we don't be careful. So it treats embarrassment to where people want to hide or withdraw or become less visible, but the brain is really scanning for social safety and perceived judgment. The body really just needs comfort at this point. I mean, familiarity, emotional safety. A lot of times low B vitamins are something that can be linked with increased stress and sensitivity to things. So you want natural, comforting, predictable kind of flavors. I make this thing across sad pasta. So it's just the little bags of noodle pasta that you can get in different flavors. It's like a dollar. And I just, I don't know, I like my bowl of pasta at night sometimes. And when I'm embarrassed or feeling a sense of like, am I doing this right or questioning myself, that really seems to work. So okay, some example foods, like I was saying, pasta, rice, grilled cheese, crackers, chips, cheese and bread, a lot of carbs, you know, carbs and cheese are really good. Embarrassment wants like hoodie time, toast and, you know, like a quiet reassurance that everything's going to be fine. It's okay. Have hot cocoa. Have a certain type of food that is your comfort go to, you know, whatever it is that you can easily make or get or have, whatever it may be, but it may be like, you know, a hot pocket or something like that. And just kind of make that a routine thing. And that way you can regulate yourself easily, which is be like, okay, I need this. And maybe it's just a scent of something, but a lot of times food is what you need. All right, NVO. Oh my goodness. Look at her hair. Yeah. This is definitely middle school, middle school all the way. There's a lot of envy going on all over the place. No matter what the gender, envy is rooted in comparison and perceived scarcity. So it often shows up when somebody feels kind of, you know, dissatisfied with themselves and their circumstances and they're like, I don't know. I'm not good enough. I'm not. It's really, and I'm not good enough issue. Kids are good enough and they need a lot of reassurance from their families that they are in fact good enough and relevant to the time, which can be hard for parents to reassure them of. And a lot of times it takes someone else. So if you have a family friend or uncle or aunt or, you know, auntie, whatever, you know, no matter what grandparent, but just somebody else that maybe can have the opportunity to talk to them and just reassure them that they are in fact relevant and they're, you know, they're cool and all these things because a lot of people second guess themselves and during this time kids really don't really understand what the, you know, what to do. Envy activates stress related brain pathways and it's very, very similar to anxiety. It's just an offshoot of anxiety and really, but the body needs recentering and emotional clarity. It's kind of like when in the movie you could see anxiety, but like Envy is like hanging all over her and wants to be her best friend. So Envy is kind of that way is sort of a flitterer likes to be around somebody likes to be helpful, likes to be useful. And we'll sometimes go into a lot of anxiety also where they try to be a perfectionist. This can lead into perfectionism. So be careful with that. And that can also be a very devastating feeling. So we want to encourage people to do their absolute best every time, but not to criticize when they have tried their hardest. So this a lot of times actually is low vitamin C. So it could be that or B vitamins and commonly associated with, you know, like fatigue and being wary and things like that. So you definitely need bright, refreshing and crisp kind of flavors like citrus and green apples and yogurt and crunchy salads. Crunchy is really, really good for Envy. Actually, it just kind of gives you a sense of peace and you get out some of that upset and anxiety. Envy is your brain kind of scrolling without supervision on. So what I like to think it's like sort of like your brain is, you know, like tick tock and it's just flipping through and just like doom scrolling in a way. So we just got to get out of that. So a lot of times fruit is the way to go. So nice, bright fruit. I like those little mandarins, those little cuties. Those are great. You know, kind of just, it's like nice and bright and fun. Okay. So Envy. Envy is a French word that just simply means boredom and boredom is not laziness. Okay. Families, this is for you kiddos. Boredom is not laziness. And if, you know, there's a difference between lazy and bored. Bored means that you want to learn, but nobody's stimulating you. Laziness means that you're just being a lump because, you know, of some other rationale or reason. So it could be like you're sad, you're mad, you don't know what to do, or there's always some emotion tied into laziness and it could be depression. So that's something to look out for. So go back to the previous episode to sadness and you can check it out what to do about that, but definitely bright flavors like fruits and things like that can be really good. But it's a signal that the brain needs stimulation or some kind of novelty. So boredom is the brain craving imagination and creativity. So we jump back to anxiety and all that. So boredom can lead to anxiety. So you need new flavors, go and cook something that can be really helpful. You know, make dinner that night, but make a different kind of food that you know, you're generally used to. So try something new. Boredom needs to try something new and to be stimulated emotionally and intellectually. So you guys got to get smarter, learn something. So what the brain is doing is actively seeking some kind of sensory or input intellectually. So you want to learn something or have a new sensory experience, which is why I say cooking can be a really good way to do that. Learn to make lasagna. It's really easy to do. And you can even get that oven ready lasagna if you want, but learn to make something and it's stacking things, which can be very sensory kind of oriented and nice. And then you know how to make something and you have lots of leftovers. So vada bing. So the body just needs like texture and engagement and kind of wake up signals. This can usually be low iron and B12. They're linked with low energy and disengagement sometimes. So if you have a kiddo that seems to experience this a lot and is just kind of like on board, on board, if you keep hearing that, you might want to check the iron and increase protein and things like that, maybe to steak or something like that. But generally you want like crunchy and textured foods like popcorn and apples and granola and chickpeas. And I personally love edamame. I'd like it with some sweet chili oil and a little bit of butter. And to me, it's like instead of popcorn, it's just awesome. It tastes really, really good and you steam it in the microwave. It's really inexpensive and it's a lot better for me at least than just eating a whole bunch of popcorn because I could do that all day long. But texture kind of just wakes the brain up. So you got to get some motivation, but you also have to stay balanced. So I added a little section here on motivation and balance because now we want to kind of re-regulate the brain and kind of get back into a productive mode. So motivation doesn't really come from pressure or willpower. So it's really from just steady energy. Integrating available energy with just making some goals and saying, I want this on the short term, I want this on the midterm, I want this on the long term. And it's a good time of year to do that. But you need sustained fuel to do that. I am just as guilty of not eating breakfast and just slamming some coffee and you know, my demogorgon, I get a Duncan. And it is a lot of caffeine and all that, but I'm like, oh, that's breakfast. That is not a breakfast of champions. So you need actual food. So low iron, B12, magnesium and protein are usually linked with low motivation. You don't want to do anything. You probably really need to eat some proper food. And we talked about that last time with, you know, eating good food, get put good in, get good out. That's simple as that. So helpful flavors would be like sweet and savory. So lots of protein, complex carbs, healthy fats like olive oil and avocado and avocado toast can be really good. Kids like that a lot. And you can make that or breakfast burritos, something that's got a little protein or, you know, have them make their own little breakfast burritos and put them in the freezer and they can just microwave them. So motivation doesn't really live in caffeine. It lives in lunch. So you just want to remember that because you have to really have that protein to sustain that energy that you need to think properly. Creativity uses a lot of brain power. And especially when you're being as creative as you possibly can and putting all in and down the rabbit hole, you can get really hungry but forget to eat. So just a thought. So all right, we'll back to coffee for a second. My favorite topic. But the smell of coffee alone can help to regulate mood and reset the brain. So having a little bag of coffee somewhere that people can smell when they're kind of feeling dysregulated is a really good idea. So just have a little bag of coffee for that. It doesn't have to be new. It can just be old. But just shake it up a little bit and just smell it. And it really helps. Many neurodivergent people experience caffeine as a calming rather than stimulating kind of chemical. So honestly, the more caffeine I drink, the more calm I feel. So that's really, really a possibility for your kid or for yourself. So aromatherapy really matters. So orange peppermint, ginger, pineapple, mango, orange, any of the oranges, lime, lemon, these actually support regulation without eating anything. So having that smell around aromatherapy is a really, really good thing for neurodivergent families. So the maybe something you want to look into or you can always go into AI and put that in. Here's a technology challenge. Go into AI and explain some things about your family and what you need for your neurodivergent kid and what kind of smells they like and what they don't and what kind of foods. And they can actually come up with an idea for some suggestions to incorporate some different foods and ideas for how maybe a cooking idea that they can have and some aromatherapy ideas. So maybe some plugins or something that would work nicely. So all right, well, food is a powerful tool for emotional regulation. And that's for everybody. Food is food is culture food is family food is so tied to who we are as a society is a world. We're all connected through food. And when the body gets what it needs emotions are a lot easier to manage. Let's face it. Y'all know it's true. So this two part series is really about nourishment and not restriction. You know, we're not trying to restrict your food. We're just trying to make better choices. So you feel better. And this is something that as a kid who is quite a big kid, I just ate my emotions away. I held so much anxiety. And I just ate and ate and ate where I would sneak food or go buy it when, you know, I wasn't supposed to and stuff because I just craved it and tried to hoard it. So eat an apple before you eat something sugary like we were talking about prior or just say, hey, I'm feeling kind of emotional right now. What can I eat? I'm feeling crunchy. That makes me feel a lot better. Just learning how to work with your body instead of fighting it is really the key. So all right, y'all, thanks for being here. And I want to thank you for taking care of yourselves and each other. So as always, stay clever little foxes. And I hope you find this something really nice to eat. Take care.