Evan Carmichael: The Power of Belief to Transform Your Life | E9

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Hello, my name is Tim Story. Welcome to Miracle Mentality. It's for the dreamers, the doers, the believers in something greater. In each episode, I'll invite you to rise above the mundane, to push past the messy and learn to live boldly in the miraculous. Every episode will have practical wisdom, spiritual insight, and my guests will explore what it takes to activate your miracle mindset. Remember to subscribe, follow, and like. I love when I get to interview my friends. This guy, I really like. You know why? He is his own guy. There's that saying, you've been born in original, don't die copy. And Evan Carmichael is not like any of us. He's in his own lane, his own groove. He's entrepreneur, creative artist, pioneer, author, over 4 million YouTube subscribers. Evan, good to see you. Thanks for having me, man. I love that you're doing this show. What an intro. I might steal that for other things. That's great. This creative swag that I see about you, one of the things I love is that even though you are with a lot of us that are known as thought leaders and you are known as playing at a very high standard, you kind of stick to yourself, you're creative. You go social when you need to go social. You pull back when you need to pull back. When did you start being comfortable about just being Evan Carmichael? I don't know. I'm still working on it. I think that's all you said was a really nice way to say I'm an introvert. You know, kind of. Kind of. You know, I struggled a lot in the early days, Tim. I looked at the people who are making content and I thought you have to be a loudmouth type A extrovert to do well. I looked at the, you know, Kevin O'Leary and Mark Cuban on Shark Tank and, you know, super pinionated loudmouth people, which is great. Just kind of not me and not my style. It took a while. I mean, if you look at my YouTube journey, the first few years, I don't know, like zero to four years took me, I'm still in the thousands of subscribers. Like after four years of making videos, like under 10,000 subscribers. Yes. And then off to like two million subscribers in the next four years or something like that. But it was a decision to surf and that I realized there are other people like me who are struggling and if I could just get out of my own way and just make content that I hope can help a few people like me, like think back to younger Evan who was struggling. That's who I'm talking to. And slowly I got more confident. I hated my first 350 videos, public videos. Like I couldn't watch them back. And at 350, I finally liked one of them. So the other thing I had going for me, Tim, was like, I just kept going. I just kept making, just kept creating and I hope that it might help a few people. But I didn't know that YouTube would be this thing. I didn't have this, you know, magic ball. I just focused on who I was serving instead of who I wasn't and kept going. I like what you just said of who you are rather than what you're not. And this idea of not trying to duplicate somebody else's personality or persona and just being Evan. But Evan, I think that when we're talking behind your back with a lot of your friends, whenever your name comes up, it's always the same of how kind you are, almost humanitarian like. Did you always kind of have this positive outlook even when you were little? I give credit to my mom for that. She would always tell me if you have the ability, you have the responsibility. If you can, then you must. And in the first 10 years, I've been on YouTube since 2009. So it's been a while. And in the first 10 years or so, I was trying to convince guys like you, geniuses, legends, like insane wisdom, like, man, why aren't you on YouTube? You got to make content. The world needs you. It's crazy. You got to be out there. And I mean, the world's kind of cut up. So now it's helping the people who took action blow up and then helping the others kind of catch up. But we all are great at something and the world needs more of it. I'm not good at most things, Tim. And so the one thing that I'm actually not bad at, I just try to help others because when I see someone like you and I came and filmed at your house a bunch of years ago, like, man, this guy is such a genius. I just wish more people knew about him. And that was kind of you because you then were kind enough to talk to my team and work with my team. And I think we're finally making some of the moves that you've been telling me that I should have made a long time ago. So Evan, how many actual subscribers do you have now on YouTube? Four points something on the main channel. Which is just amazing. Give me one little testimony of meeting somebody on the street or somebody DMing you and talking to you about one of your videos that you've done on YouTube that kind of touched your heart. My wife and I just got back from spending three weeks in Morocco. And we got stopped there. Like, I don't know how much my videos are viewed in the US, Canada, I expect it, but not in Morocco. And we got stopped a whole bunch by people. And one of them was such a fan. He's like, if you come to Fez, which is where we're actually going to go next, I'll take you around. I'd love to be your personal tour guide. It's like, okay, cool. Like, just go with the flow of it. And he hired a driver and a professional tour guide and took us around Fez. And it became one of the highlights of the entire trip because this guy had been watching my videos and just it's a way to pay it back. And it's funny because a lot of times when we get started, we assume that nobody's watching a video, nobody cares, not having an impact. But this guy had never left a comment on a video. You know, he'd never said hi, he'd never said how much it impacted him. But then all these years later, it's like, your video has changed my life. And I love that because, you know, there you are in Toronto, Canada. And yet somebody's watching your video in a whole other country and being impacted by it. But you know, one of the things that I said that you are is that you are a forerunner, you're a pioneer. And I really mean this with all my heart. So how did you know that YouTube was a place that we needed to go? That YouTube was going to really take off? And I think it's maybe even gotten bigger that some of us even thought it would. But when did you start getting that inkling? I'm just a visual guy, man. So like, even as we were getting into the tech before we launched, you're like, I can't even, it's frozen, I can't see him. I need to like, I need the visual. So audio only is the worst for me. And so YouTube was the only visual and really still is the only long form educational video style. But YouTube was the only video place at the time when I started. So I'm just going to be here. Not that I knew it was going to work out because I'm here making, you know, 20, 30 hour long videos. And the experts were telling me that's way too long. You don't understand social media. It's never going to work. Yeah. Mutual friends of ours, you know, telling me that this is not how it's supposed to be done. Like, I don't know. It's the only way I know how. And YouTube just eventually caught up. And if you want to, if you're a thought leader, you're an educator, I don't work with slime channels or entertainment channels, education, thought leadership, entrepreneurship, people go to short form for inspiration and entertainment. And people go to long form videos for education and thought leadership. Okay. So for those that are interested in building up the YouTube, tell us some courses or ways that people can connect with you that you could actually help them. We have a program. It's called movement makers. And so people who are entrepreneurs trying to build their business, but also grow a movement because they have a message that they want to share with the world. And so it's building an impact and making money along the way. That's working more closely with us and our team. But I also have a lot of videos where I talk about it. We've interviewed some of our members. I've done a ton of coaching sessions where you can see some of the basics, at least to be able to grow the brand. Most important of anything is just a decision. You know, like something flipped for you to say, okay, like now is the time when I got the request, like, hey, Tim would love to have you on the show. Like, let's go. Tim's story. My man, I love it, right? Something flipped for you that said, okay, now is the time to take it more seriously. And you were doing Instagram and other stuff before, but like now is the time to take it more seriously. And so that's more than any individual resort. That's the decision that people need to get to is like, okay, I'm going to take it more seriously now. Building a brand is modern marketing. Like if you don't have a personal brand now, you are not marketing in the right age. And so there's a lot of different places you could go to. I think if you're an entrepreneur, a thought leader, you have expertise, you're actually good at what you do. YouTube long form should be your number one home. And then you can clip all the clips for all the stuff. Like this video, hopefully I say something good. If I don't, at least you're going to say something good. And then you can clip that for all your other short form accounts. When I think of Edmai Led, I think of Max out. When I think of Grant Cardone, I think of 10 X. When I think of Tim's story, I think of Miracle Mentality. So when I think of Evan Carmichael, I think of a lot of things because you have your whole believe side where you did a tour and you talk a lot about that. What would you think is one of your secret sauces of like, again, like I said, if you think of Grant 10 X, you think of Ed, you think of Max out, Tim, sorry, Miracle Mentality. Evan Carmichael, what would you think would be like the signature message? I think for the world, the signature message is believe. I mean, that is the number one problem I'm trying to solve. I think the fact that people don't believe in themselves is the world's biggest problem, and that's what I wake up every day trying to accomplish. And that's what is on my YouTube channel every day. We've been making daily videos for a decade plus. Let's go at this because I think we could do this well together because with my faith background, so much of it is the study of belief. The fact that we've studied a lot of the same people. And one thing I want to say to you, Evan, thank you for giving honor to those people that have gone before us, because you're always quoting people that have inspired you and some of them that are not even alive anymore. They're not on this planet and you are honoring them, even like people who have been in it for a long time, like the less browns of life. You're always honoring. And I mean this from my heart. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And this idea of you really studying the traits of the greats and breaking down the traits of different people that you've learned from, I appreciate that. So I say this in order to have a miracle mentality. One of the things you have to do is you have to believe first. A miracle, as you know, is something extraordinary, uncommon, not regular. In watching other interviews that you've done with other people, you talk about how your parents kind of put that in you even when you were young about believing. OK. So talk to me about this word believe. So you can believe in something and then I'm going to talk about the word expect right after that. So talk to me about the word. Believing in something. Let's go. We're going deep. Yeah. Yeah. Again, credit to my mom. She planted in my head. Anytime something didn't go right, I didn't win a race. I didn't do well in school. She would always tell me your Evan Castrilli Carmichael, you can do anything you believe that you can. My sister's always had so well in school, straight A's, and I'm here getting B's and C's, not failing, but, you know, not every report card came in and I have to go to my parents' room and sit in the bed and have the talk. But it would always be about your Evan Castrilli Carmichael. You could do anything you believe that you can. And it just I don't know that I believe that at the beginning, but the more you're here, the more it's in your environment, the more I realized, OK, like, what if that was true? Let's give it a shot. And when I looked at the things that I that have moved me the most, it's always been around belief. Like my favorite movie is Seabiscuit. It's about a horse that's too small and a jockey that's in an owner that's bankrupt and they changed the horse racing one whole bunch of races when nobody thought that they could, it's the belief that they could. In that movie is my friend, Toby Maguire, and that is a great movie, Seabiscuit, for those that have never seen Seabiscuit. I've seen it like 30, 40 times. It's a it's a great movie. Yeah. But people quit on things before they even started. We've we've convinced ourselves, we've conditioned ourselves that it's not possible. And what I tried to show to the story is that you talked about and mentioned is that, hey, here's somebody who's who started with likely less than what you have right now to start with. And they went on to achieve amazing things like you can, too. The only difference is a story, the story that you're telling yourself. Right. It's a lack of belief, which needs to change. And if you change your belief, then you can change your outcome. Let's break down the word belief a little bit as you see it. OK. So when you think of the word belief, if you were explaining that to a group of 10 year olds, how would you break that word down? I would start with belief in yourself. So it's self confidence. It's belief that it would work out. So having the faith that if you keep going, you will figure out a way. So it's the the bird on the branch isn't afraid of the branch breaking because her trust is in her wings, not the branch. I like I like that. And I think I think when belief goes deep enough, it's almost like it drops about 14 inches from your mind into your spirit and you know that you know that you know. And the way I teach it is that a revelation leads to conviction and conviction leads to action. So when you believe something, you can get a revelation like dog on it. I'm going to do it. So like you hear this, like a magic Johnson will say, even when I was practicing in the snow in Michigan, I knew I was going to make it to the NBA. Right. So you hear about these people that maybe they were even in tough situations like an Oprah Winfrey, but they had this belief that even though they were going through a lot of terrible things, that their belief had dropped into their spirit and they got a revelation and that revelation led to conviction and the conviction led to action. Now, I see you as a person of action. So even when you do some of these tours, you do them like different than some of us would where you're like, OK, I'm going to be here. And I don't know if this many people will come or that many people will come. But I know I'm supposed to go. I'm excited about it, and it's going to be great. So tell me a little bit about that type of revelation that turned to conviction and turned to action and how that works in your life. A lot of times it's through borrowed belief. And so at the beginning, I borrowed the belief from my mom. She gave me more belief than I had in myself by telling me and affirming my identity of your Evan Koshchilly Carmichael, you do anything you believe that you can. I didn't believe that myself, but I borrowed the belief from her. When I feature a famous entrepreneur in one of my videos, I'm borrowing belief from them that is possible. You look at Oprah and everything she had to go through. And being so poor that she lived with her grandmother and she didn't have money for clothes. And so her grandmother sewed her dresses from potato bags. Can you imagine going to school in a potato bag that your grandma drew? Yeah. To go from that level of poverty to what she accomplished, lover or hater, that's incredible. Like what's stopping you from doing your dreams? And so borrowing the belief of other people when you don't have it yourself to know like, and this is where I think people can win outside of the world of AI because we look to people as the belief bridge that if Tim could go from here to there, then maybe I can too. We don't look at a at a AI or a fictional character. What would Luke Skywalker do? Like he didn't actually do that, but Tim actually did and Oprah actually did. And so that gives me belief that maybe I can too. And so in the early stages, if you don't have the belief in yourself, borrow the belief from the environment and the people around you, from mentors. That is that is so powerful because I think that so many people are trying to almost conjure up belief. OK. But this idea of to borrow the belief that you heard your mother speak over your life, which shows you the power of words. She speaks over your life and says, Evan, you can do anything, anything. You borrow the belief and it became real to you. Thank you for watching the Miracle Mentality Podcast. So many of my friends are texting me, DMing me, speaking to me and saying, Tim, thank you for these great guests that you're bringing on. So share it with somebody, a friend, a family member, a colleague, and then make sure and reach out to us at Tim Story Official and let us know that you love what we're doing. Thank you for being a part of this movement. So let's go to the next word. So you have to believe to do big things and then you have to expect them. OK, so I'm going to start with a quick little story and then if you could jump in. I was at a friend of mine's house and I had left something that I needed for my computer called the charger and he didn't have the same computer. And he says, but Tim, don't worry about it. Amazon can send it and I have Amazon Prime and I said, what's that? Because it had just come out. He goes, it's going to be here overnight. I go, for real? He goes, yeah, right on my doorstep. So I'll never forget, Evan, he was so excited to open up that door because by 10 a.m. it's supposed to be there and there was that box. So he had the belief in Amazon, but then he expected it and told me when it was going to come by 10 a.m. Tell me about the power of expectation. It's where I go when I can't figure out a way out and I'm trying to make it my default. So what I mean by that is I have faith in the plan. If I keep going, yeah, the plan is going to work. Are you keep making podcasts, keep me the interviews? It's going to work out when the plan stops working. Great, I make a new plan and that I think that I believe in that plan. But when that plan doesn't work and I don't have another plan, instead of a spiral into despair, the thing that comes up for me is great things come to me. Mm hmm. Yeah. I just expect great things to come to me. I wish I lived there more. It's where I go when I absolutely need to because the plan is not working. Yeah. But whether it's the show with you, my next event, the next video, great things come to me. And I remind myself of that constantly to try to borrow the belief, even if it's not there yet. But I love your transparency with this because I think we're all working through that. That I think many times it's easier to believe for someone else. And for ourselves. So we have that belief and then to expect, because I'm kind of a word nerd, so I like to break down words. So to expect means to foresee, to await for something, to make room for something. And so I teach that you need to make room for the big in your life. So the the Evan Carmichael that we see, like a lot of us thought leaders that look up to you, did you see that coming a long time ago? No, not at all. It's probably one of my weaknesses. My wife got me a mug of I believe in myself like Kanye believes in Kanye. And like. You know, like that. Hey, I'm going to be known around the world, not because it's about me, but it's got the message is still something that I struggle with on an ongoing basis. If I could say this to you as a friend who's older than you, if I was life coaching you, I almost liked that struggle in you. Because I think that some people can be overconfident based on what they look like, who they know, how they've studied. And I love that you have this side of you that's a little bit undone. That's how I am as well. Like in my life coaching, I can help people believe. I can tell people about expecting. But sometimes I don't know if Amazon's going to drop my miracle off at 10 a.m. Right. I know it's going to happen for the guy I'm coaching or the lady I'm coaching. But I'm not so sure about my myself. So we're both working on that. So you can believe for a great life. You can you can expect it. But let's go to the next one that I want to ask you about. So you believe you expect and then you receive it. I know a lot of people that almost push away and sabotage the good things that come to them. And knowing you and seeing that a lot of really good things have come your way. How have you gotten to the place where you're saying, OK, I'm open to receive this good life that life has given me. Oh, man, you're killing me, Tim. I'm going to have to do some therapy after this, for sure. Because I love you so much. And I knew I wanted to go this way with you. Oh, man, I think asking for help is probably my biggest weakness. And I think a lot of us are in the same boat is like, hey, there's lots of people that you want. The people listening here are probably the biggest givers in their family. They're used to pouring in other people. Yeah. And givers have a hard time receiving, which if you don't receive, you're cheating somebody else. The opportunity to give and asking for help is still one of the the biggest challenges, biggest problems even yesterday. You know, one of my mastermind members, we're thinking of going to Oslo for New Year's. I want to catch the Northern Lights. And he goes to this cabin three miles, three hours north of Oslo to catch the Northern Lights. She said, hey, you can you can come with us. Immediately, my brain defaults to I don't want to be in a position that your family and your cabin and, you know, I can get my own place. Right. I close by. It's trying to catch the default mode to then say, thank you. I'd love to join you and your family. I don't know why that's so hard. Number one, I love this idea that you're going to go to Norway and have you been to Norway before? I've been to Oslo before, but I haven't been north. Yes. So I love Scandinavia. I'm going to shock you. I've been to Sweden 68 times. Let's go. I've been to Norway 11. So you're telling me if you were to go trick or treating as a kid, you weren't trying to get too much candy. I know I wanted all the candy. Okay, I wanted all the candy. Well, see, I'm live coaching you right now. OK. Yeah, I know, I know, I know. Take you back to little Evan who wanted all the candy. And then we got to minimize it and say, OK, Evan, don't take all the candy, but take the candy that they're giving you. Does that make sense? Like in my neighborhood, because we were lower income, they used to have like candy that wasn't so great. So we used to get the older people to take us by car to what we call the rich neighborhood. Now that I grew up, they weren't that rich. But they had like bigger snickers, bars, bigger three musketeers. I remember getting those, Evan, and it was such a great feeling to receive something bigger than I was used to. So I personally think you have to get used to receiving something bigger than you're used to. You're in a position, whether you like it or not, that we follow you. We watch you. You do great teaching on the greats of the past. You do great teaching on belief. So whether you like it or not, you're a leader. OK. But with being a leader, there's also going to become blessings. So I remember the first time they paid me to speak, Evan. I was really young and I was like a seminary student. I went and spoke somewhere and they gave me a fifty dollar check. And they said, this is a fifty dollar check. Like I said, I can't take it. And they go, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's OK. It's a nonprofit organization. And here's a fifty dollar check. You did such a good job. I go, no, no, no, I can't take it because I thought I was going to taint my gift by taking money for speaking. So now that we get higher amounts in fifty dollars to speak in certain places, how have you been able to handle the financial good things that come with being Evan? And all of these things I'm still working on, Tim, you're you're hitting you're kind of good at this. You know, anybody tell you that? But I love you so much. I honestly thought yesterday because I was studying you the day before and then yesterday. I said, I got to go at Evan in a little different way because I love him so much. So that's why I am pushing some of your buttons on purpose, just so you know. But I want to understand this about you. So you got to believe you got to expect you got to receive. So how about on the monetary side? So if you get a bigger check for something that you've done, what does that feel like now? It always feels great. The thing I think that's probably helped the most is having having somebody run that side of things for me. Yeah, on my team. I've got a marketing manager and he's in charge of packaging everything and price and everything and putting it together. I mean, I did an event a couple of years ago with with a lot of our friends, big name people, super well known. You know, you can't pay to be a disavent. It's invite only friends, you know, those kinds of things. Yeah, it was just roundtable, like try to help each other out. And when it got to me, I said, hey, I don't have a I don't even know what question asked you guys know me. Like, what should I work on? Man, give me some honest feedback here. Pour in. Yeah. And then number one thing was like, we wish we could pay you money to do more with us. Like, I don't know how to pay you. Yeah, it's like, OK. That's a good thing, I guess, a little bit, but also a real opportunity to to get better and improve. So one of the things I love about you is you have like this secret swag, but you got to you got to look for it, because it's not just going to come at you because you are a bit of a quiet person. And I love quiet like Pharrell Williams. You could be in the studio with Pharrell for three hours straight, and he may not say one word, but then he might get super talkative and go at it. But then he'll just pull back. But there's actually a book called Quiet that I read twice. It is so good. And it talks about the power of being an introvert because you can learn, you could take in, you can receive, you can read a room. OK. But this this swag that I love about Evan is you don't really like go chase things like you don't go chase people or chase events. But you like work on what you're doing and you want to get so good at it that people have to look for you. Talk to us about that side of you. Probably out of necessity or insecurity, I don't know. I realize I'm not going to win by being the most extroverted in your face. Sales guy, joke teller, I don't know. I like people who seem magical at those things. I'm that's not me and trying to be that is is going to be a recipe for disaster. So how can I get just incredibly good at something that then can also bring value to other people? And that's where I leaned in. I mean, I remember one of the first events that I went to with my friends are similar friends. I was known more for believe than for YouTube stuff. And so I'm here with these people and I'm like, how am I going to I teach belief? Like, how? Yeah. How am I going to tell him story? How to believe? Like, it feels you teach this stuff too in your own way. And a lot of these guys are better than me at this. But on YouTube was where I had actual domain mastery that I could bring value to these people were for the world that might be believed, but for a certain niche, the ability to help them get their brand out and message out on YouTube became incredibly valuable. And so for those people, for that circle of friends, that's what I became an expert at and help them get going. And so just let me tell you again what I love about the Evan swag. So you're learning new things that you could tell your wife. The Tim story is talking about the Evan swag and I'm being serious. Like there's a guy named Hans Zimmer that hardly anybody wants. And OK, look at that. So you know, but hardly anybody really would know who Hans Zimmer is. But you could be watching an amazing movie. And then I love to watch the credits because I want to see who did what. So you would see something that was phenomenal with great music. And it said, Hans Zimmer. So then I'd watch something else. It would say Hans Zimmer. Then I'm watching a Pharrell Williams interview and he says, it's so great that I'm working on this project with my friend, Hans Zimmer. So I go, I'm going to do a deeper dive. And you see that this Hans Zimmer is like all over the board with doing music the way he does music. So what I love is that you don't do music the way Tony Robbins does music. Grant Cardone, Ed Milet or Tim Story, you're doing music like Evan Carmichael does music. You're like the Hans Zimmer of the movement. Well, it's very kind. I love Hans. I mean, gladiator. He's done a lot of the soundtracks. I tried to get Hans to when I was launching my new website, I wanted a soundtrack for the website and I tried to get Hans Zimmer. I wanted to commission Hans Zimmer to do the audio for my website. So that's wild that you went to Hans Zimmer. I haven't thought about that for years. Evan, you know, not to mess with me because I feel things in people. Yeah, I knew that going in. Yeah, I messed with Tim Story is not on the top of my list. OK, so you came to my house and we were excited to have you was already loving who you are. You're calm. You're in a good mood. Your wife's in a good mood. You bring me some swag that I have this amazing sweatshirt that he has. And the quality of what you have is really good, just so you know that. But something had happened to you guys prior to coming to my house. Tell the people what I'm talking about belief, but then something could still happen, but you got to believe again. So what happened? I still tell the stories. My one of my favorite Tim's story stories of all time. Up until that point, we had known each other a little bit. Phone calls every now and then, but like never met in person, never really did anything. And I was coming to California for my tour and we had parked in LA and they said, OK, I'm going to do my event. And the next day, let's go interview Tim and tell his story. And so we set it up. That night, though, most of our gear was in our suburban that then got robbed. Like they took everything out of our car and we only realized I don't even know how many thousands of dollars worth of gear or whatever. But we woke up in the morning, all set the drive to Tim's house to do the interview and like we have no gear. It's completely gone and like defeat. I mean, I could have called him and said, hey, man, sorry, we have no gear. But instead we we found the closest place that we could rent some stuff from. Took it, showed up at your house, did the interview. I might have been a little frazzled. So I think you're very kind in how you said I was calm. I was probably stressing out. But we spent a couple hours together, filming content was amazing. But the thing that restored my faith in humanity was when we finished, you had to go visit your mom for her birthday or weekend or something to go say hi to her. That's right. And we had to pack up like we had a whole set. We had to take it down. And you're like, just yeah, just lock. Just leave the door like I'll leave the door open. You just close it when you're done. Pack up and go. Don't stress. Like all the time you need, I got to go see my mom. And like, I mean, I barely know this guy. I'm in his house. I mean, you've a nice house. That's not just some you've grown up since the early days, right? He's got a beautiful house, beautiful area, millions of dollars worth of stuff in there. And he's like, I trust this weird Canadian guy to come in with his crew and just have the run at the house. I don't think I would have done that to somebody. And I had lost my faith in humanity because all my stuff just got stolen from my my suburban in LA. And I just think that's who you are. And it just immediately made me feel OK, like there's, you know, there's good and don't fall into despair. And yes, trust people like you trusted me and my crew with a lot more money in possessions and whatever I had stolen from, you know, our suburban in LA. Thank you for seeing that in me. But what I saw in you, Evan, is the resilience to push through. Because like you said, you could have canceled the interview and said something devastating just happened that's, you know, we're unable to come back. But you you you found a way where there kind of was no way. So let's let's let's end with that, because part of what you're about on your believe tour that still goes on is helping people find a way where there seems to be no dog on way. So talk to people for just a minute about how they're going to be OK. What was great was you you poured belief into Mr. Belief, because I had this little moment of lack of belief. And the fact that it happened like so quickly thereafter that you then poured the belief back into me so quickly. And I got back up on the horse to continue riding. And people watching may not always have a Tim story that they can go visit and hang out at their house to get the relief they need. But but you can experience him with video. You know, it's like whenever you're feeling is why I make content every day because there's somebody who needs the message like somebody will watch his video and it becomes a turning point. They might have had the worst day. Somebody ripped them off. They tried to build their brand and like got taken advantage of. And so that could take you down a really negative path or give up completely where the right video, the right message from Tim story, you know, this interview could be the thing that brings you back up and to surround yourself with the people, even if virtually, I don't know Tim story. I don't know mentors. There's nobody in my life. You know where I grew up? Well, Tim story has a YouTube channel now and there's content up there. You could be spending hours with Tim story every day if you wanted to. And I guarantee if you spent a couple hours every day with Tim story, your life is going to start to change like it just will. And so you can choose to change your surroundings and your virtual mentors, even if you don't have those connections in person yet. And it makes all the difference. Me and you are so funny because I turn it on you. I'm always promoting you and then you coming back and promoting me because we're both the same in that, man. Well, our visions are to see other people's visions happen. All right. So Evan, what is the best way for people to follow you on YouTube and everything else that you're on? If you guys want the coaching program, movement makers, that's what it is. It's just off my website, Evancomicard.com. But there's so much content. Some of the coaching system. Yeah, smart idea. So you guys watching investing yourself, let them coach you how to do it and how to be great at it. So the best way to get the coaching system again, Evan, is what? If you go to evercomicard.com and look at movement makers, you'll find it. We've coached a lot of the big names to go off and accomplish their big goals. And so it's all of that with people that I've trained to then help people who are the next generation, like the people who have a message and a business and helping them start to break through. Yeah. So that's called movement makers. You have a movement and you want to make a difference in the world plus make money doing it. And then the YouTube channel, you can look at them, Carmichael on YouTube, you'll find a video or two out there. Maybe start with the interviewer did with Tim Story. I love this. Okay. So in one of the wisdom books that I'm in close with this, it says, pity the man who falls and has no one to help him up or pity the person who, when they are cold, has no one to keep them warm. So the type of person that Evan Carmichael is, is that if you're down, he's picking you up. If you're cold, he's finding ways to keep you warm. So Evan, thank you for spending this time with me today. It is a privilege to call you friend. Thank you for sowing seed into my life. And I want to continue to sow seed into your life. Thank you, Tim. It's been an honor and I'm super happy that you're doing this. Life is good. I'll see you soon. Thank you for sharing space with me on this episode of Miracle Mentality with Tim Story. If today sparked your courage or helped you understand why you're created for success, I invite you to carry that Miracle Mentality forward. Visit me at timstory.com. That story with an E Y on the end. Until next time, walk by faith, embrace possibility and create your own comeback story.