#4652 An Adrian Monk With A Bob Belcher Rising
73 min
•Jan 29, 20264 months agoSummary
Host Luke Burbank and guest Andrew Walsh discuss a real-time adventure where Andrew and his wife Genevieve tracked down her lost phone on a Seattle bus using Google's Find My Phone feature, successfully recovering it with help from a heroic bus driver. The episode also covers Blur's Day birthday messages, donor appreciation, and planning for the upcoming Super Bowl.
Insights
- Most people are inherently good and will return lost items to authorities rather than keep them, as demonstrated by the bus driver's immediate assistance
- Mobile device tracking technology has become seamlessly integrated into everyday problem-solving, enabling real-time location services that were previously unavailable
- Community-driven public transit systems create opportunities for human connection and mutual aid between strangers
- Strategic thinking under pressure (using bus stops as waypoints, following rather than intercepting) outperforms reactive decision-making in chase scenarios
Trends
Integration of device tracking into core operating systems reducing reliance on third-party appsMobile hotspot usage as a practical solution for maintaining connectivity during real-world problem-solvingPublic transportation as a community trust system where lost items are typically returned to driversReal-time location sharing and mapping as standard features in consumer navigation appsIncreased smartphone dependency creating new recovery workflows and lost-item protocols
Topics
Mobile Device Recovery and Tracking TechnologyGoogle Find My Phone Feature and Android IntegrationSeattle Public Transportation System (Route 40 Bus)Real-Time GPS Navigation and Route PlanningLost Item Recovery ProceduresMobile Hotspot TechnologyHuman Behavior and Moral Decision-MakingUrban Navigation and Traffic ManagementBirthday Celebrations and Community RecognitionZodiac Signs and Personality AssessmentFlying Lessons and Personal DevelopmentUnitarian Universalist MinistrySeattle Seahawks and Super Bowl PlanningHome Renovation and Basement RemodelingNew York Times Newsletter Subscriptions
Companies
Google
Genevieve used Google's Find My Phone feature integrated into her Pixel phone to locate her lost device on the bus
Apple
Luke discussed iPhone security features including face recognition and fingerprint technology that prevent unauthoriz...
New York Times
Andrew accidentally subscribed to multiple New York Times newsletters while saving a recipe, receiving unwanted email...
Home Depot
Andrew purchased plastic storage tubs from Home Depot to prepare for basement renovation and kitchenette dismantling
Gillette
Discussed as the company that acquired Liquid Paper (white-out) from Betty Nessmith Graham in 1979 for $47.5 million
Proctor and Gamble
Currently owns Gillette, the safety razor and personal care brand founded in 1901
KUOW
Public radio station where Andrew was scheduled to record the Seattle Now podcast and weekly roundup with Trish Murphy
Amazon
Referenced negatively by Andrew as a company he avoids due to ethical concerns, explaining why Genevieve uses non-Ama...
People
Genevieve
Andrew's wife who lost her phone on the Route 40 bus and successfully recovered it with Andrew's help using tracking ...
Luke Burbank
Host of TBTL podcast discussing the episode and Andrew's adventure, planning Super Bowl viewing strategy
Andrew Walsh
Guest and co-host who drove the bus chase, used mobile hotspot technology, and helped recover his wife's lost phone
Betty Nessmith Graham
Mother of Monkeys member Mike Nessmith who invented Liquid Paper (white-out) correction fluid in 1956
Mike Nessmith
Member of The Monkeys band whose mother Betty Nessmith Graham invented white-out correction fluid
Neil Diamond
Songwriter credited with writing multiple hits for The Monkeys including 'I'm a Believer'
Reverend Chad
Newly ordained Unitarian Universalist minister celebrated in Blur's Day message from wife Amy in Minneapolis
Trish Murphy
Co-host of Seattle Now podcast at KUOW where Andrew records weekly roundup segments
Quotes
"Most people are generally good. And then every once in a while you get an outlier and then it's easy to sort of expand and stereotype from that experience."
Andrew Walsh•Mid-episode discussion about bus riders and human behavior
"I'm an Adrian Monk with a Bob Belcher rising"
Andrew Walsh•When discussing zodiac signs and personality types
"I have the power to create and destroy life in your mind"
Luke Burbank•Joking about his influence on Andrew's memory
"We will catch up. The bus has stops to make and we don't."
Andrew Walsh•Strategic decision during the bus chase
"It's a glass case of emotion"
Luke Burbank•Describing his emotional state about the Seahawks Super Bowl appearance
Full Transcript
It was the bottom of the fifth quarter and the baskets were loaded. It was me versus the Boston Celtics basketball team. Ready to lose again? I said to LeJames Braun. He was sweaty and out of breath. Please give me another chance. He said, sexually, it's basketball time. I yelled in a booming voice. Then I did a layup, which is different than slam dunking. It's where you throw the basketball in the hoop when you're really close to it. I was too quick for them. I was dribbling all over the field and the Boston Celtics said, wow, she doesn't even double dribble, something I know about. Just then, Seth Curry did a humongous jump and tried to block me from the basketball hoop. But I threw the basketball so hard it went straight through his chest and into the hoop. But he was okay and didn't die. The basketball went in so good that I got a hundred points and won the game. Can we please be your boyfriends now? Said the Baltimore Celtics. Sorry, that was a deal. You can only be my boyfriends if you beat me in a game of hoop ball. I said winkingly. Then they all cried. The end. Why would either one of you, you know, why? Dear God, why? Actually, you know what? I could email you. Or you know, you could email me at splett2 at splettnet.net. Splett, once my father. I mean, it'll be sad to see him go. It'll be nice to get my hands on that handle. And I also think it wouldn't hurt to talk to a therapist about your bathroom issues because there's really something going on there. All right. Hello. Good morning. And welcome everyone to a Thursday edition of TBTL, the show. It just might be too beautiful to live. If God wanted us to listen to audiobooks, she wouldn't have given us eyes to watch TV. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. Oh my God. Coming to you from the Madronahill broadcast center, perched high above the mighty Columbia where it is. Fuck. It's a very rainy kind of fun. Kind of a yucky day up here, but I didn't know you liked to get wet though. We will make it through my friends and we will arrive, as we have already at episode 4,652 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. Physically, I am here doing this podcast with all of you, but mentally, I am eight days, no, sorry, 10 days ahead. 11 days ahead. I'm thinking about the Super Bowl, my friends. I'm in a glass case of emotion. Because the Seattle Seahawks are going to be playing in it, and I am trying to figure out exactly what my plan should be for watching it, and both honoring and being close to the people I love, but also, and by that I mean the Seahawks, but also watching it with people I know. Still trying to figure it out. I might work it out on the air in real time, live with all of you. Also, it's a Thursday, aka Blur's Day. So we'll do some Blur's Day messages, and we are going to say hello to this handsome young stranger. He's a soulful rocker from New Hampshire, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships, the grace, and their power. And what I've read online is his heroism yesterday. He might be a little fat. He might be a little drunk, but okay, he can sometimes yell at us a little, but he's the last superhero in the world. He is Andrew Walsh, and he is joining me right now. Good morning, my friend. Good morning, Luke. I know we want to talk about heroics. By the way, I don't even know- Far and wide. I don't even know what you read. Tales of your heroism are being heralded far and wide. I am a hometown hero. When I say hometown, I mean very specifically the home that I live in. Yeah, and actually specifically the basement. In very specific, yeah, I'm a basement town hero. And mostly the darts area. So hometown meaning Seattle, meaning your neighborhood, meaning your house, meaning your basement, meaning the part where you play darts. Which I'm a little bit worried. I don't know if I'm going to have to temporarily temper my dart playing as we have some construction starting in the basement today. That's starting today. Andrew. The deconstruction is happening today. We call that demo. It's demo day. We have so much to talk about. We have so many things. But I do want to start with this. Just a small anecdote that will not get a super off track. But when I'm done recording with you here, I'm rushing off to KUOW to record a podcast with them. That's paper and reno. That's right. And they do give a little stipend as you know. I don't know if it's going to. The Walsh principle. It's not going to. That's right. They do give you a little stipend. Oh, that's right. I said this could not possibly get us off track. And here we are. They give you a little, what is it, 50 or 75? $75. U.S. Which is, I never expect that. Not nothing. Not at all. You get a check after you appear on one of these shows a couple of weeks later. And it's got a little sticker on it that says, please deposit immediately. Right? Yeah. Let me, if I can quickly for the listeners, explain how I came to this information. You and I were talking off air about this gig of doing the Seattle Now podcast with our friend, Trish Murphy. And you said, yeah, you know, they send you this check at 75 bucks. It's not nothing, but also, you know, you'll rush right out to cash it. But then sometimes you got, you know, four or five of them. And you go to the bank and you're like, hey, that's real money. And I was like, yeah, that does sound like a way to do this. And then I got a check from them, from my appearance, and it has a sticker, this orange sticker that says, please deposit this as quickly as possible. Yeah. They want to settle their books. I texted you and I was like, they call this the Andrew Walsh principle. And you're like, oh, no, no, I've seen that on every check. I just choose not to cash them in a timely manner. It's a very un-Andrew like thing. Right. But I'm not great with mail, to be honest with you. That's what it is. Like physical mail that comes, I kind of put it in a pile, whether it's like incoming or outgoing, like a task I got to do, or just a check I got to cash. Because you know me, I got a lot of checks I got to cash. They just sort of sit there for a while. Then one day we dialed up and yeah, I was like, kind of like, ooh, depositing all these and watching them kind of stack up there. And you just, again, stack and, stack and cheddar over here, Luke. And cash and checks and break in next. And then yeah, each one is a sticker that says, please, please be responsible. I'm by the way, the day that I got, this tells you about our financial differences, the day I got it. Full on photo, photo deposit to the checking account. Have I thrown the check out Andrew? No, I have not because I still don't trust. Oh, you got to go in and see when it's cleared. I always go in the next day when it's cleared. Even then, in case there are issues later. There's a lot of it. This is my most Andrew thing is that like, I will never trust the photography around the check. Once I see it has passed into my account, then I throw the check away, which is usually the next day. That's a reasonable response. I know we talk about this a lot, but like, I just don't think there's any of all of the internetty things, of all of the technological breakthroughs that I've witnessed in my life. I don't know if I appreciate any of them more than I appreciate. Just easy check deposit. Can I tell you? When I got that check out of the mail, and then I took a picture of it, which by the way, I don't think my phone would let me send you a photo. That was weird. It wasn't even the check. It was the other part of the check, the receipt, what do you call that? It just my phone, my phone sense that I was sending you some sort of sensitive financial information and it kept blurring it. And you were like, Hey, I'm in a weird internet connection. I assumed I was as in front of my ear. I assumed too. I always assume you're at fault. And no, I think it was my phone trying to protect me from sending sensitive financial information. It might have been, but every now and then. And I thought it was when I'm in a bad internet place, I will get a photo like that where the photo is all blurred out. And then there's a little button that says, you have to download this to see it, which is not usual practice. And then when I downloaded it, downloads like a blank file. I think there was something corrupt in that photo because I googled it later. I'm like, does do Apple phones or iPhones? I call them Apple phones. I got to stop doing that. It's not a bit. I googled do iPhone scramble check photos for security. And I didn't see anything that backed me up unless you're seeing something different now. I heard you typing away over there. Well, I was trying to find the photo in my text because what happened was it happened twice. Having three times. So I tried to resend it, but it was always the same photo. You were in the same place, but you were in the same bad internet. No, I was. It was. I was, I believe I came out of Fred Meyer, looked at my phone, saw scrambled photo, but just assumed that Fred Meyer might have had bad internet or something or bad cell coverage. So I just texted you said, oh, I was in a bad, I was in a bad place. But I sent it to you again, and it was still scrambled. But you sent the same photo. You didn't retake it, right? So you, but see that seems to, so you think the photo was corrupted. So we've moved on from the idea that it was bad internet connectivity. And now onto it was a corrupted photo. Maybe I do think that something happened, but I think I'm going to find a picture. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not sure. I, I, I have no idea what happened there, but it is. I'm arguing hard for you to be right, by the way, about this, which is to say, well, yeah, because I'm right. I guess I'm, I'm arguing that this was, I guess I'm arguing for me to be right. I'm arguing that my phone knows when it's looking at a checkstub. I guess I'm ultimately arguing my point. Yeah, I guess only because I've seen this happen before with non-check photos, although it is rare and I've always just chalked it up to bad internet. But anyway, so let's see here. So let's see what we're talking about. We weren't going to get sideline. Oh, I never even got to my point. So I'm going into KUW in a little bit here to record the weekly roundup, which is a kind of a, what do they call it, casual Friday on Seattle now podcast. And I wait for the topics to get to me last night. And I kind of had a busy night. And as you, I apparently learned it got busier in a surprising way. Yeah, I did. But they send out the list of topics, which is a very thorough breakdown of the topics and talking points and things to think about. It's actually really, really helpful. You kind of don't even have to read the articles. I do, but they do a really good job of prepping you, the producers. But that doesn't usually come out until I think I got it maybe around 5, 5.30 last night or something. So you're kind of all day waiting. It's like, I don't know, are we going to get into a conversation about like, what will we do if we see an ice abduction in our neighborhood? Or is it all going to be like these five pizza shops claim to have the best French bread pizza? I don't know. And so I'm always waiting. Like, is it going to be a heavy one? Do I have to do a lot of reading? I get the list of topics, Luke. Listen to what we're talking about. Where's my bell? Oh, I'll bell it. I got you. You got the bell? Okay. I'm going to put my bell away then. Okay. You got ready with the bell? We've got talk about public transportation, TV commercials, grocery store shopping. Wait, let me get the last one. The Seahawks. Yes. And not sports Seahawks. But Seahawks like, where are you going to watch the game? What's going on with the commercials and everything? And weirdly, Giaga County. She don't know that much about Giaga County. Kaya Hoga. I didn't know. I didn't know. Kaya Hoga. Look at me. I'm a Kaya Hoga boy. Anyway, I was just like, well, that's a treat. Take the night off, Walter. I'm really looking forward to that. Yeah. So I am interested in, I don't know. So apparently Genevieve posted something. I was going to tell you about a little adventure I had last night, but based on that intro you gave me, apparently you already have some intel. And I'm curious. Yes. I'm sort of curious. I don't know if this is the right way to start this. You're getting huge props online. What do you know? Is that a good place to start this? Or should I just tell the listeners what happened? You may be the stories more interesting if you kind of unfold it for all of us. I saw, let me, what does a principal black man say? I'm a two-span, so I'll try to be oblique. That's not the line you were looking for, but it's my favorite. That's exactly the line I was looking for. Let me be oblique. Let me be oblique. By the way, RIP to that actor. Wait, no, we did this again. I don't think, I think that actor is very much alive. He just hasn't been in a lot of things that we've been seeing. Oh, oh, okay. Oh. Yeah, I think that I think I pre-memorialized him a few months ago on the show. Anyway, let me be a little bit. Unfortunately, that's the part I remembered. That's like corrections don't work. When you said that, I was like, oh, that's right, he's gone. And I was just remembering you lying to me, apparently. Yes, exactly. I'm glad though that I have that influence on you. That I can, I have the power to create and destroy life in your mind. No, what I saw online was Genevieve saying that you guys had had a whole kind of thing happen last night, a fast-paced, speed-esque adventure last night that ended well. But why don't you pick up the story? This all go down. Yeah, so I told you, I kind of set up what my night was. I was kind of prepping for this little thing at KUW today. And then also, remember when you and I were prepping for the show the other day, and we were actually having a pretty serious conversation, but then I started swearing because suddenly my inbox was filling up with New York Times emails telling me that I had just subscribed to three different newsletters that I did not try to subscribe to. And it all started because I just saw a recipe online that I was like, oh, I'll save this for later. And I clicked one button and all of a sudden, I don't even know, I still don't know what I hit. And suddenly my inbox is like, you're now following the midweek lunch newsletter from the New York Times. Anyway, last night I'm like, OK, what I'm going to do is I'm going to do my little homework and then I'm going to make this recipe that I saw in the New York Times involving shallots cooked with 12 shallots last night, Luke, called for 15. I can almost smell it. Oh, the house smells so good. Anyway, so I'm kind of doing my prep of both dinner and prepping for today's show. And then also, what's kind of hanging over me is the fact that we have some folks coming in today to sort of start dismantling our little kitchenette in the basement, which is going to be a project that we're going to be just kind of renovating that area and putting in cabinets and stuff that work better and aren't atrocious and torn up and swollen with moisture and what have you. So I knew that I had a night or I assumed I had a night of like kind of cleaning out all these cupboards and filling. I had gone to Home Depot to get those big plastic tubs to store a bunch of stuff in and haul it out to the garage. Great radio head song. Big plastic tubs. Tubs. Anyway, so I kind of already had a full night and I'm in the midst of cooking and I haven't fired anything up yet, but I've patted the chicken dry. I'm peeling all these these scallions. Then Genevieve comes home and we're talking about how we're going to approach the basement when I'm done cooking. And then she's like, oh, oh, shit. I don't I don't have my phone. I think I lost my phone. But the thing is, I had just called her like, I don't know, 15 minutes earlier. Uh-huh. And she was on the train and she had picked she, you know, she had picked up. Germans must have a word for how we all think that we've lost our phone, but we haven't. Yeah. In modern life, you know what I mean? Like I think probably once every other day we all go, oh, God, where's my phone? And you're patting the normal places and then you have it usually. You just put it somewhere else. Mobile specter. That's it. That's exactly what it is. You think what it's called. I shouldn't even mess around with fake words in a language that I don't know, because God knows what I just great bovino to say. It's the German word for that. What's he up to? Anyway, so sleeping in a shoe. Size nine boot, as I believe David Roth joke credit credit is due. But then anyway, Jen, who's like, I can't find my phone. And I immediately I struck a very Burbankian positivity. Love it. Tone. And I was just like, I was just talking to you on it, Vives. I'm sure you didn't leave it on the bus. She takes a train, then grabs a bus for a few stops to get home. And and she's like, well, you're talking to me on the train, but I don't know. But she says, I think I have a, you know, I lost my phone or find my phone app or something. And I think for years, I've been paying for some off brand version of that, too. Like because, you know, with iPhones, I just think it's all kind of bundled and you guys have everything. And it's a little bit more of a Wild West, I think, when it comes to some of these apps, or at least it used to be, I think Google is doing a much better job now of sort of like bringing everything under the tent and kind of making it a little bit more seamless. It's definitely very built into the iPhone. And the fact that Genevieve wouldn't even be sure, or you wouldn't even be 100% sure if you had that service or whatever is funny to me because like that's this, this thing I know that that is a thing on my phone because I have used it. Yeah. I just said that we never lose our phones, but I have used that, you know, a hundred times since I got an iPhone. Well, that's not to sound holier than thou, but I've never lost my phone. I don't even think I've had a, I don't even think I've had more of a five minute scare. And, you know, that five minutes is, I know it's in the house somewhere. I just don't know where I said it. But like, I'm a very ritualized person, so it's always in my right hand pocket, you know. And, you know, totally I'm going to knock on all the fake wood around me. But I, because I'm just constantly, keys are in the left pocket. Phone is in the right pocket. I just always know where my stuff is. One of these days I'm sure I'll lose it and I'll rue this conversation. But anyway, so I think at one point I was like, yeah, I should have a find my phone thing. And like from some bowel of the internet, about once a year, mid-year, I get some email that just says, don't worry, we're renewing your subscription to whatever. Janky, find my phone I signed up for when I had a G2 back in 2010 or something like that. Anyway, like a G6. Like a G6. Anyway, so I am unfamiliar with that stuff, but Genevieve just kind of runs to her computer and just types in like find my phone or something generic like that. And it opens up Google Maps. And that's why I think that the Android system, and she has a Pixel phone, by the way, which is literally made by Google. So I think they really integrated it. She just typed in find my phone and she got something that looked very much like Google Maps and she could see where her phone was and her phone was not at home. So turns out she was right. She had left her phone somewhere, presumably on the bus. Like maybe it fell out of her. She's thinking maybe it fell out of her pocket. And she said she was reading her Kindle. I got her up. It's not actually a Kindle because we don't do Amazon, as you know, Luke, because Amazon is a nickname. Nicknames are for friends. Anyway, she was reading her ebook thing. And so when she has her ebook thing, which is relatively new, she got it for Christmas. She's not constantly looking at her phone, holding her phone, listening to a podcast on her phone. So she apparently it slipped out on the bus or something. And she's looking at this map and it's not showing it move in real time the way it would in a movie. It's not going like, boop, boop, boop, you know, like a radar dot moving further away. Like the DoorDash bringing me a very expensive order from Taco Time. Right, exactly. Or waiting on a Lyft or an Uber, right? For some reason, this technology doesn't quite have that, which maybe makes sense because the device is hopefully, you know, it could potentially be turned off or it could certainly be locked or something. So anyway, so she keeps refreshing, but she's like, yeah, this thing is definitely on the move. But we also at this point don't know, did she drop it on the bus and somebody picked it up and decided to, you know, just take it, which I don't think even though you see some really banana's behavior on some of the bus lines that we take and smashed phones and various weird things because somebody who has a chemical imbalance decided just to go to town on some little piece of property. I just don't think that the majority of bus riders find a phone and decide to do something, you know, malicious with it. I think the majority of people on any bus line, including my beloved E-line, are going to take that phone and give it to the bus driver, I think. Absolutely. And this is actually a good message in this of all weeks when there's so much coarseness between US citizens. I think you're right. I think most people are generally good. And then every once in a while you get an outlier and then it's easy to sort of like sort of expand and stereotype from that experience. Most people are good. Yeah. And also, not to mention, finding a phone, you're first of all, it's a pixel. I found, forget it. People love pixels. People love pixels. I also, you can't really unlock that. You know what I mean? You kind of have to be a master hacker for it to be of any use to you anyway. Right, because all the face technology and fingerprint and the like. So anyway, all that is to say, Genevieve starts watching this blip. Now keep in mind, we are at home. She's on her laptop computer and she's been home at least 10 minutes now. But she's like, I think it's on the bus. And I'm just like, I'm putting on my shoes. I'm like, we should just get in the car. I'm like, here's what we're going to do. You already, her computer was already somehow immediately synced up to her phone. I think it's, I think it's because she's logged in as herself on her phone into her Gmail account or her Google account. She's logged into her computer and her Google account. And so it just knew, oh, I know what phone I'm looking for. So she immediately gets this thing. I'm like, we got to get in the car and track that thing. But your computer doesn't take, you know, your computer will lose its Wi-Fi signal the second we leave the home. So I put on a, I turned my phone into a mobile hotspot, right? Nice. And so I'm like, so keep your computer, log your computer. Welcome to the movie sneakers. That's right. Which I was mad wrong about. Did you hear that like loud wrong? Apparently the old person who plays the young Robert Redford, it's still a bad casting. They cast some other old guy, but it's not even Robert Redford. I don't even know if I ever corrected the record. A listener pointed it out to me and he sent me links and proof and screenshots. So twice now. They dressed a different person up to look like Robert Redford, but too, but obviously too old. But still too old for the flat vaccines. Get a young, I need an old Robert Redford and a young Robert. Right. Get a Gallifian ackis. Right. Anyway, so I'm like, here's what we're going to do. You attach your computer to the wifi hotspot on my phone. I'll drive you track. So we get in the car. She's got her laptop open. Obviously tensions are running high here. We are now chasing the 40 line, but the 40 line has a hell of a head start on us. Right. Because we get this, you know, again, Genevieve's been on the wild walked to your place. Opposite direction, presumably, or maybe not, but just walked. Yeah. You guys talk. You said, hi, hello. She smelled my shallots. Yes. She said hello to bingo who had blood work yesterday. It was a very adventurous day for the whole family. Anyway, so bus is long gone. The bus is gone, but Genevieve's tracking it. And she's also using my phone, not just as a hotspot, but also to sort of track what the 40s, what the 40 lines route is on the phone to make sure while she's got her. It's not just straight. I was assuming it was straight up and down Aurora, but that would be the E line. That's the 40 is a little bit more kind of windy. Remember I told you that time this summer where we went to like one of the fanciest parties ever and one of the fanciest parts of Seattle, which I think was Seward Park. But we took, it took us three hours to get there because Genevieve wanted to take the 40 there. So we had some understanding that the 40 is a pretty winding route, but it goes past our house on Northgate Way down Holman Road through the heart of Ballard, Ballard into Fremont, across the Fremont Bridge into downtown. And so, Luke, you know, none of this is the fastest way to get downtown. It's just like it's serving all these other communities. Which is kind of actually helpful to me. Kind of, if we had been smarter. So when we get in the car, instead of like immediately thinking we got to like cut left on Aurora and like try to cut this bus off, I'm just like, let's follow the bus. We will catch up. The bus has stops to make and we don't. And even though it's sort of, you know, the last of the rush hour traffic, we're stuck in it. The bus is stuck in it. The bus has to make stops. We don't. The bus also has its own lane though in some scenarios. Right, right, right, right. So we're like, we don't know. It's getting a little faster than you in certain parts. In certain parts, but it also does have to make stops. So we're like, I don't know. We're trying to, and we're bickering a little bit about like, should we take a left on Greenwood and try to cut it off or go straight? We end up going straight. That was my idea and probably in the long run was probably wrong. You're Sandy Bullock and Genevieve's Keanu Reeves. I can see it. I love this. It's fried green tomatoes, exactly. It's exactly like fried green tomatoes. Tawanda. So I love film. Anyway, so at first I'm just kind of like, listen, I know what the 40 do. Like Genevieve's looking, she's like, it's in Salmon Bay now. I'm like, Salmon Bay is Ballard. I know where it goes in Ballard. It's going to go, it's going to go past Sonic Boom. Like, let's go, let's go. And so I'm driving and we're chasing this bus. And again, just for the record, I think Genevieve's right. We should have probably started thinking more strategically early, but we're just very scrambled. We've never done this before. And so I'm driving the route. You've never been in a speed type situation. Or a fried green tomatoes kind of situation or whatever reference you want to use. Postcards from the edge. Postcards from the edge. And we're, and so anyway, we're following the route. But Genevieve is constantly, she's like, the only way to do this is she's also using my phone, which is plugged into like our car, to start saying, listen, I know the bus is going to pass this location at some point. I think at one point we were using this English bar called the Georgian Dragon. You probably go, it's been there forever in Fremont. Like the bus is maybe five minutes away from that. So Genevieve's like, let's use the, and I know the bus is going to pass it. So let's use that as a point on your map, Andrew, and just see the fastest route to get there. So we're kind of doing that over and over again, trying to like drive faster than the bus, going off the route a little bit, using my phone to try to like get me the fastest route to these locations, trying to cut off the bus. It's, it's feeling bleak. I'll be honest with you. As the bus is getting closer, and I don't know, this is maybe just the psychology of this, but like Genevieve and I keep on, well, she's, she's watching it and she's telling me. But for some reason, the bus going over the cut seemed like some sort of a psychological barrier to us. When we say the cut, it's this area. Montlake Cut. The Montlake Cut, where there's a, you know, in a couple of different places, bridges that go over it. But it basically kind of separates the city from north to south. And we're just kind of like, and I don't want to go over the Fremont bridge. I'm like, that is going to, that's just going to like the bridge could be up, first of all, like these bridge, like the bus could go over the bridge and then the bridge could go up. The bus could jump a gap in the bridge. That's right. I'm ready to jump a gap by the way. And then you can't, and then you get stopped and you go, ah. And I have, I had put turbo power on our car a long time ago, never used it though. I get a bill every year for $35 that says remember when you installed the turbo power app. Is that what they called it? Nightrider, by the way, was a turbo power. Oh, I was thinking more spy hunter, but yes, I'm sure they, I'm sure they said turbo power. There were some, because the car could race around and drop, right? Isn't there a drop where it says it's, where Michael Knight says it's time for turbo something? Maybe I'm thinking of, I think you should leave when they do turbo time. Is this ever happened to you? I don't think I have any, I do have some nightrider drops that are really wonderful. But I'm not about the turbo-ness of it. But I'm happy to just empty out the, the clip here if you want to hear the whole thing. What's he? I tell you to get this through your head, but you're a machine. So run this through your data processor. Get lost. So good. How about this? I'm not taking that aluminum box seriously. And then this one, are you okay? Are you all right? No. No, I'm confused. Nothing makes sense to me anymore. This face is not my face. My whole world has disappeared and, and now I'm talking to a car. This is not the time to have this conversation. But I'm realizing now that that last drop in the first one were from the very first episode of Night Rider. Well, of course, that's when Michael Knight realizes he's been given a new face. Okay. So you're familiar with the actual story. I had, we went back and watched the pilot. And could not believe how unnecessarily batshit it is. The rest of the series doesn't have to have anything to do with him having a new face. Most of the series is guy lives with gay car. Why? Why did he have to go to some mysterious like mansion somewhere? It's never explained why this rich guy wants to transplant his face. Like it's so. I thought he was in an accident. Confusing. He is that not the, I mean, I haven't watched this in literally 40 years. It starts with some sort of a sting at a casino, I believe, and he's a cop. Okay. And his partner watches him get in ice. I want to say shot. He's wearing a mask. What is he? In Congress votes, they have to take the masks off so he gets a face transplant. Right. Exactly. They said, oh wow. They said the guy who shot you in the face just needs more regulation. That's what they said. But no, I, my memory of the, of the show was that he's in some sort of an accident. And again, you watched him more recently than I did. My memory was, Michael Knight is somehow in an accident and he gets not only a new face, but a new car. That is true. I'm trying to look it up. I think you're right. And maybe he is disfigured in some way. And so that's why they have to put a new face on him. But it's also because he also has to like give up his identity and his identity cards and stuff. I remember that's a big part of it. By the way, I would love nothing more than to wake up and have David Hasselhoff's face. Yeah. I would take that. What a good deal. Oh, especially then. For the average cis male identified person. Like what a win. What a W. What did Michael Knight look like before he was David Hasselhoff? Self-made billionaire Wilton Knight rescues police detective Lieutenant Michael Arthur Long after a near fatal gunshot to the face. So the face is disfigured there, giving him a new face through plastic surgery and a new identity and name, Michael Knight. And I remember, by the way, I remember this was a detail in the pilot, some like person who works for the billionaire. And by the way, billionaire, even in the 1982, that's a lot of money. I thought it would be a millionaire. One of his employees says to a boy, he sure looks familiar. So I think that this this rich Wilton Knight guy kind of gave Michael Knight his own face when he was like a younger, more handsome man. It's like a way of him. Interesting. His own legacy. I think, Andrew, can we just take a quick? I know that we said we weren't going to get off the track with the story of heroism. But I was trying to kind of backstop you on the sort of night rider lore. So I put into the internet night rider plot. And here's what I said. No. Michael Knight alone. This isn't about you being wrong. This is about the insidious nature of AI. Michael Knight, a lone undercover agent saved from death by a billionaire who fights crime alongside Kit, an indestructible, wait for it, Andrew, AI powered supercar. AI powered. You're worried that it's just AI is claiming that Kit is AI powered. But wouldn't Kit almost have to be AI powered? Because Kit, you're having- Yes, but we didn't call it that back then. Not then, but it would have to be. Somehow I feel like they're, you're siding with the robot together. That would have to be the technology. If you have a talking car that can process information, I mean, it's literally like that's- I'm just saying when I was playing night rider on the playground, none of us were calling it AI. And I feel like AI is stolen valor. I feel like this is stolen AI valor from the robots now relating to the robots of yesteryear. I do think it's fascinating that Wikipedia doesn't say AI, but the AI overview. It's like, hey, Hermano. Exactly, exactly. I recognize this. Anyway, where were we? You were chasing a bus. Night Rider jumps from out like that. So anyway, Genevieve and I are concerned about the bus going over the cut for some reason. We just sort of feel like if we lose the bus over- Maybe that's putting too fine a point on it, but there's this sort of psychology in the car as Genevieve and I are feeling a little bit glum about this and like racing around the streets of Seattle. But also, I'm trying not to race too much because this is how you know I'm an old man. Back in the day, I was a very aggressive driver and now I'm like driving a little bit over the limit, like maybe by five miles or something, but I'm not driving like a crazy person because I keep thinking if I get pulled over right now, that phone is gone. I honestly believe that not slow and steady, but you know, hurried but steady is way better than doing some crazy moves as I'm driving through rush hour traffic through some pretty busy areas on a rainy dark night, by the way. Right. You're doing the math of four miles additional per hour versus 15 minutes of being stopped by the police. At the very least, right? And then having to explain the situation. So anyway, so we're in this sort of like low speed chase sort of situation. Genevieve, by the way, like I said, she has to keep refreshing the computer on her lap. They call it a computer on your lap. Yeah, computer powered by AI. Because it's not like automatically updating. And so it's just like, I think we're still on track. I think it's still on the bus because there's always this question of could the phone leave the bus? You know, can somebody pick it up and put it in their bag? I didn't want to get ahead of the story, but yeah, I mean, from the moment of realizing this, you are assuming that it is on the bus, but not in someone's bag because that's a whole other situation. Yeah, that's totally. If you get on the bus, if you locate the bus and the phone is still allegedly with it, then the real mystery begins, which is, is it in the pocket or bag of somebody on this bus? Right. And then if that's the case, or somebody who was on the bus and is now leaving the bus, because that's what one of the things Genevieve is doing on my phone is actually looking at the route of the 40 and then using her laptop to see kind of where we are. And actually her laptop isn't even showing where we are. So she's trying to, it's, it feels like 1995. She's kind of like, what are we on the corner of like 15th and Republican or whatever. She's got the Thomas guide out. Yeah, she's got the Thomas guide out. She's got a AAA triptych for some reason. I don't know how the fourth thought to put that thing together. She's got highlighter marks showing where the construction is. But anyway, no gas station. 11 miles. I think this is one of those things where this was pretty in the parlance of my father, the technology, the technology we were using yesterday was pretty slick. Having said that, it's going to seem so antiquated in 10 years. Like it didn't show us on the map. It only showed where her phone was on the map. She had to keep refreshing the map. We had to keep like comparing it to my phone on my map and everything. Whereas, you know, in the future, hopefully it'll just show a blipping, moving marker where the phone is and a blipping, moving marker where you are and like how close are we together. But Genevieve has to like do some triangulating and some mapping in the passenger seat and we're taking some, you know, we're taking some shortcuts now, cutting across various neighborhoods saying, okay, we're going to get here and then we're going to try to cut it off before it gets to the bridge. When it gets to the bridge, now we're heading downtown. But I'm like, we got to be making progress on this. Like even though we're not catching it as fast as we hoped, like we have to be making progress on it. I'm concerned the bus is going to get to the end of its line, turn around and start heading back. And I don't know where that happens. I know it goes downtown. I don't know if it goes through downtown. But we are, I think somewhere between Fremont. Oh no, you know where we are, Luke? We are down at like kind of the bottom of Denny Hill. What would that be? Is that South Lake? Yeah, we're in South Lake Union. Isn't there a big Whole Foods or something on West Lake? Yeah, it's like West Lake and Denny or something like that. We're kind of in that area. And you know, things are complicated in that area. And traffic is, it can be intense down there. Like Mercer and all that can get really kind of. It's a lot of one-way streets and it gets really clogged. And you also have like, streets will totally just shut off and become bus only streets. And so that's kind of a problem too if we want to be chasing this bus. But somewhere around there, Genevieve is like, we're just crossing I think maybe West Lake and Republican. And she's like, now it says that we passed it. I'm like, well, we haven't seen any buses. She's like, oh no, but it also says it hasn't updated. And she's hitting refresh refresh. She's like, it hasn't updated in like two minutes. But it must be in front of us. But it says it's behind us now. And we're like, and then all of a sudden, like a beacon in the night in front of us, I saw a bus and it had two numerals on the back of it, four and zero. Like Genevieve, that's your bus. Now the music. And you immediately just T-boned it. I said, well, there's your bus. You just rammed right into it. I said, get out, I found your bus. You hired me to find the bus, not fight the bus. So I kicked her out of the car. No. So then we start chasing the bus. But we don't know. Genevieve's like, you got to get in front of the bus and then get me and drop me off at the next bus stop in front of the bus. But she's like, because like, how do you pull over a bus? How do you pull over a bus? We don't have any flashing lights or anything like that. But I'm like, Genevieve, I can't get in front of the bus because the bus is in this area now in this very congested area. And now going downtown, going into Bell Town now, Luke, if you can sort of picture that. And she's the bus is taking like, you know, it's not on a single road the way it was, you know, way up north here. It's taking a lot of turns, meaning I don't trust myself to get in front of this bus and pull over and drop you off at a bus stop because I don't know which way this bus is going. And we're trying to triangulate that. But for a second, I'm like alongside the bus, but then the bus takes a left. And I'm like, is there any waving to the driver from Genevieve? Because I mean, what would the driver even make of that? But did that even come into play? Not yet. Okay. So we're the bus. So I'm like, Genevieve, I got to get behind the bus. I'm just thinking like, we got to get behind the bus. We're going to be coming up to some pretty big stops and like the more urban dense centers. I would have paid to just be in the backseat of this car. Listening to this conversation. I love this. This is really like an action movie. It really kind of, I got to say, when we saw the bus, it felt like, trying to think of whose music I would want here. Maybe a PT Anderson. Maybe, maybe Yorgos Lanthimos. Like, you know how he just said, I don't know, some sort of like, we see the bus and it's just kind of like the music, like the action scene begins in my head. So we're literally chasing this bus, talking about a slow, slow speed chase. And then finally, somewhere in Belltown at a very big bus stop. But actually, this might just be downtown proper actually at this point. We just, the bus pulls over and I'm waiting for it. I'm like, is it stopping here to actually let riders on and off? I'm waiting for the telltale sign of it to put on its flashing lights. So the bus stops at this big, and I pull up behind it and I stop, but I'm not supposed to be there. I'm just in a bus lane and this is in a big bus area. And I'm like, turn on your flashers, turn on your flashers, turn on, and then boom, he turns on his flashers. And then I'm like, go, Genevieve gets out of the car. She still has her laptop and she runs up to the bus. And apparently she runs into the back door. I've now lost sight of her. And like, we were having a conversation before in the car while we're stressfully triangulating. I'm like, well, what is the plan if you get it? If you get on the bus with your computer and then you're looking for your phone on the bus and the bus takes off and you don't find your phone, I'm completely out of touch with you. You don't have a phone to call me in. You're on a bus. I'm in a car. I guess I just keep following the 40 around. Like, I'm not sure how this is all going to go down if you get on that bus but can't find the phone. But anyway, right now we're feeling, I'm just feeling pretty excited. The fact that we even found the bus. So Genevieve just runs out of the car. Controlled roll out of the car. Holding her laptop. Somehow maintains the laptop. Holds the laptop, runs out of sight for me. And now I'm sitting behind the bus and there's some transit workers or at least there's one transit worker in like a bright yellow vest, sort of just kind of milling about. And I put on my flashers and the person isn't really looking at me with a lot of scrutiny but I do think for a second this guy looks at me like, how long is this car going to just sit behind this bus? I'm not supposed to be there, right? But the bus in front of me still has his flashers on. Genevieve has been gone for, I don't know, 30 seconds now. Now maybe a minute. And I'm like, what's going on on that bus? I don't know. I'm sorry to keep revisiting this and we already said we're not going to stereotype bus riders because some of my very best co-hosts are bus riders. But I feel like there is also the very real possibility that somebody who is currently on the bus found the phone and maybe put it in their pocket or their bag. Again, not to say people on the bus would do that, but that's the part that I would have been really stressed. I mean, along with the fact that you couldn't contact her is like, what happens if she gets on there? We know the phone's on the bus, but we don't see the phone. And now it's like, what kind of an inquisition are we dealing with to get the phone back? Yeah. I could see Genevieve even just saying to everybody on the bus, hey, has anybody found a phone? That would be a way to handle it, by the way. It's like, sorry, everything comes back to Minnesota, but it's like the pivot that I saw a lot of people doing online, including Tim Walts, which I thought was very smart, which was, look, if you supported ICE, or just like if you voted for Trump, or if you even thought ICE needs to come in and get rid of these quote unquote, you know, criminals or whatever, it's not too late to change. And it doesn't make you a bad person if you did think that, but now you can change and you don't lose your standing in our world. I think that's a very, actually a very smart approach, because one of the issues with this kind of stuff is people get really locked in to a worldview and it almost feels like they can't, if they think about their worldview critically, they're questioning their own sort of existence. Anyway, that's a long way to say, I think the move would be to say, did anybody find my phone? Not, did anybody steal my phone? Yeah, of course. Right, right, right. Genevieve, just screaming in a bus. Which one of you am I for store my phone? She's Amanda Plummer in the opening seat of Pulp Fiction. Everybody be cool. This is a robbery. So that's actually Tim Roth, who says that, but that is, yeah, she's honey bunny. She's the Tim Roth and you're the Amanda Plummer in this movie. That's right. God, I love fried green tomatoes. I anyway, so Genevieve's out of sight. I'm behind this bus. Maybe it's been 90 seconds now, which you know, Luke, like that's a long time. People think if you're measuring circle, when you're measuring things in seconds, it doesn't seem like that long, but like 90 seconds is like a full commercial break that is driving you crazy. When you are in a total information black hole. That's right. Yeah, when you're just sitting there, you're, I'm behind the, I'm behind the bus and I'm just like, I don't know what's going on in that bus. I mean, that bus, a couple of things could happen. I could see Genevieve jump off that bus and suddenly, you know, come into view for me, you know, joyful because she found her phone. I could see her getting off that bus and looking dejected and sad. I could see the bus's flashers go off and the bus start to pull away from me while I still sit in the car without a Genevieve. An old fashioned Donnie Brooke. Three people, including Genevieve, tumble off the bus midfist to cups. Yes. It just looks like a cloud of dust. Yes. Like it's not a Donnie Brooke unless there's a cloud of dust. Yes, that's right. It looks like a Charles Schultz cartoon. Yeah. So anyway, I don't know what's happening, but I'm just waiting. I'm just waiting. And then all of a sudden, I just see Genevieve come into sight off of the bus, literally jumping up and down and waving at me with her phone in one hand and her laptop in the other and running to the car. And so she gets in the car and she's like, she's like, oh, they had it. They had it. Halle-pe-nya, Halle-pe-nya, Halle-pe-nya. And this is very relevant to, I think, what we've been talking about the nature of human beings. She said she ran under the bus. I was picturing her going into the front door of the bus in very first order of business saying to the bus driver, did anybody turn in a phone? But because she was closer to the back of the bus, she actually ran out of the car, darted into the back door of the bus and looked around where she had been sitting and didn't see anything. And I guess just luckily the bus is not pulling off at this point. So then she runs to the front of the bus and says, did anybody, did you find a phone or anything? And he said, somebody turned it in. And he handed it to her. I think without, boy, you know, I'd even ask her about this, but remember that time you lost, or just like temporarily set down your earbuds in a hotel in Miami and they didn't trust you to give them back? You're like, you describe them. There's like by the way, the sarcastically named good time hotel. Right. There is like, we got to prove that these are yours. We have to do forensics to see if the earwax that is left on these earbuds matches. We have to start playing Pod Save America in one of these ears. Just prove it was you. Anyway, apparently none of that happened. The guy just gave Genevieve her phone and she came skipping off the bus. And then, and now I'm still like kind of in a bus only area, but for somehow I'm also just like discombobulated. I kind of don't know where we are. And we end up pulling up alongside the bus and the hero bus driver. So keep in mind like I'm now the bus has pulled away from the stop and now it stopped at a red light as are we, but I think we're both in bus only lanes. We're to the left of the bus, meaning that Genevieve in the passenger side can look up out her window at the bus driver, the hero bus driver who just gave her her phone back. And so I start, I actually start leaning over and waving to him and then he's waving at us. And I believe I never saw any of this, but I believe Genevieve took a photo of this bus driver through their respective windows. And is that the photo that she posted to Instagram with some sort of version of the story? Well, I can't find it because it was a story. So it went by and I don't know how to get back to it. If I go to Genevieve's page, it's just posts. I don't think it was a picture of Kathy Bates from Fried Green Tomatoes as the bus driver. But it was this is fascinating because I don't think that Genevieve knows how to do stories. That's the interesting thing about that. Well, I'm at, is it possible I saw it on a different social media platform other than Instagram? Well, maybe I haven't seen it. So that's the only one I'm on unless you put it on TikTok. I'll take a look here. So here's what I was struck by. First of all, that's an amazing story. I can't believe you guys pulled that off. That is like freaking awesome. That's flipping awesome. It is a story. In the words of Fernando Mendoza. But Genevieve was very, how do I put it? Super sort of complimentary to you in her post. Like you were named. I'm looking at it now. You're right. It was a story, which first of all, I'm super proud of Genevieve for posting a story. I felt like you were a hero of this story. She used the word heroically. She says it's a name you're heroically. Literally and figuratively. Jump in the car and we chased the moving phone all over the way to Pike Place Market. That's right. That's basically where we ended up coming out. Through a fish and then filmed it for an interstitial of an NFL game on Fox. That's right. Where do they come up with that? I don't know. Pearl Jam? I mean, how do they think of these things? I got a little story for you. Anyway, that was the story. We got the damn phone back and it was kind of funny. I was later on thinking about where I was putting the probability of getting the phone back at various times during this adventure. I want to see the poly markets on this. Yeah, right? I want to see the real-time probability. They'll be with the football games now or the Mariners games. I want to see what was going on in your mind. Yeah, exactly. Because I remember asking Veeze, I mean, what did you think that the possibilities were? She's like, I was pretty pessimistic most of the time. But then once we saw the bus, like once you saw the bus, you're just like, all my job right now is heller high water. We attach ourselves to this bus. If that means driving through bus only lanes, if that means if this is one of those duck boats that goes on water, we'll find a way. Got it. If we have to blow a kazoo and do some kind of dance to YMCA. What is that? Oh, is that? I believe they do that on the ducks. They don't have, there was a really bad duck boat accident here in Seattle and so they don't operate here anymore, do they? It just occurred to me, I haven't seen a duck boat in forever. But is that just because maybe I'm not driving the highways and duckways of duck boat? The highways and quackways. At least it was a better stab at it than what I offered. Let's see, Ride the Ducks is an amphibious tour, a permanently ceased operation in 2020 following the 2015 crash. You were absolutely right about that. I believe they do definitely exist in other cities and I once took Addy on Ride the Ducks. I'm just like, what an unfun dad in a way. A fun dad that I was like, let's do Ride the Ducks, but then an unfun dad that I was like, I refused to do YMCA on the bus. Because you know, it's a participatory kind of thing. Yeah, right. I mean, that's an absolute nightmare for me. You remember the photo of me being a little kid and people are just having a happy birthday to me and I've got my hands pressed firmly over my ears because I just... Well, that would have been one of the letters. I think it's YM, that could have been the M. You were kind of doing it. Sort of between the M and the surrender cobra. Yeah. Well, congratulations to you and Thieves. That is really cool. I'm so glad that worked out and that was a fun story for us all to get to hear about. All right, let's thank some donors. These are the incredible, generous people who, if they found a phone on the bus, they would immediately turn it in to the driver because they're good, they're morally upright. They're citizens of the world, Andrew, and they are supporters of TBTL. And the only way this thing can happen five days a week, 52 weeks a year, is because of the support of folks like Gray Chapman of San Jose, California. Thank you, Gray. Appreciate that. Thank you, Gray. Be Gray Chapman sounds potentially like a singer-songwriter name. I don't know if Gray is considered becoming a singer-songwriter, but... Well, there was a Christian singer named Steven Curtis Chapman when I was a kid. So your instincts are right here, Andrew. Not that Gray Chapman is a singer-songwriter or even a contemporary Christian artist, but that the name sounds like it could be. Whatever Gray is doing in San Jose, we appreciate Gray redirecting some of that income towards TBTL. So this can be our job. Thank you, Gray. Thanks to Alyssa Adelson of Bellevue, Washington, or Adelson. Thank you, Alyssa. Appreciate that. Oh, I'll see you in March. There's a big announcement. You're going to Bellevue in March? I don't know if it's March or April, but that is when the sometime this spring, they've announced an opening day for the train line that will connect the two cities. Oh, I just thought you had plans to go to like the Dinh Thai Fung in Bellevue, but you were... I need to make some plans in Bellevue and then take the train over there. Yeah, absolutely. And then I was going to say, leave your phone, but don't actually. You guys, you've gotten away once with this. Let's not test fate. Thanks, Alyssa. Thanks also to Annette Streak of Brampton, Ontario. I am checking the schedule and it does not work. When does the train get to Brampton, Andrew? It's going to be a while. It's going to be a while, but it's not about the train. You know there is a train and you know the monkeys wrote a song about it. Take the train to Brampton. Take the last train to Brampton. I'll meet you at the station. Isn't there a story that like, did the monkey, the monkeys didn't write their music initially and then they wrote the music on head? Is that what that was? I don't know all the ins and outs. I know that Neil Diamond wrote a bunch of their hits though. Okay, that's it. Fuming that one, I think. That's last train. That's so interesting because... I'm not sure if he wrote that one. Let me double check. It sounds like a Neil Diamond song though, like take the last train to Clarkston and I'll meet you in the morning. Like, you know, although I guess if you sing any song like that, it sounds like a Neil Diamond song. Like Red Red Wine, for instance, which I only found out about through UB40, but it's like you sing it Neil Diamond's style. Red Red Wine. So not last train to Clarksville. That is not written by Neil Diamond, but it was written by other songwriters, but let me just type in monkeys, Neil Diamond song. While I'm thanking donors, Andrew, see we're multitasking here because you've got places to be. While I'm thanking Sarah Wilcox of Tacoma, Washington. Nice. Thank you. Okay, here's what I'm gonna thank you. I'm a believer. I couldn't leave her if I tried. That's the Neil Diamond. I saw when I saw her face. That's from the movie Shrek. He wrote that for the movie Shrek. Oh, I see that. I didn't know. He wrote that for Smash Mouth for the movie Shrek. I'm a believer. What a great song. That is a Neil Diamond written song, I believe. I was like walking by some people in Miami and I walked by a person who just learned in real time that the lead singer of Smash Mouth is no longer alive because of that song. That song was playing coming out of one of the like, you know, on Ocean Avenue there in Miami Beach. It was coming out of somewhere. The Smash Mouth version of then I saw her face and somebody said, yeah, that guy's dead. And somebody said Neil Diamond and they went, no, the Smash Mouth guy. And that's why it just doppled gangered right past me. And first of all, I love picking up little snippets of other people's conversations. We were doing that the whole trip. We kept finishing. Bex and I, our thing was we would hear like two seconds of a conversation and then we would do an entire build out. Like AI can do with a photograph now. We would just build out the edges of the conversation. But that happened somewhat recently, right? Because he kind of had his troubled life. Or am I thinking somebody else? Yes, he had a troubled, yeah. I mean, recently as in the last five years, which to you and I feels recent. I don't know what it feels like to Andrew Kugelman in Seattle, Washington. But I know that Andrew has recently been donating to TBTL because his name is on this list. That's right. And we really appreciate it. Thank you, Andrew. And then of course, where would we be without Christine Mello of Wiley, Texas? Christine is all the way over there in Wiley, Texas, sending in some money to TBTL so this can happen. Thanks, Christine. Appreciate it. I really appreciate you. Big time. Could not do this without you, donors. Thank you from the bottom of our hearts. You know who wrote that song, Luke? The Mike Nessmith's Mother. That's true. That's absolutely true. And she wasn't inventing white out. You know that story, of course. When you raise it, it rings a bell always. But it's never top of mind for me. Mike Nessmith from the Monkeys, mother was a secretary and was, you know, would have some occasionally there'd be like a mistyping in her thing she was typing up. And instead of redoing the entire page, she thought, well, what if I put a little bit of white cover on this? And she is credited with inventing white out. I love that. And by the way, when I said Mike Nessmith, I didn't mean Peter Torque. I think Mike Nessmith, I think Peter Torque was European, right? So I mean Nessmith. Oh, really? They're not all American? I didn't know that. I don't know. I'll look this up while you blurs your little heart out. Start blursing all over the place over here. Starting with Carolyn. I'm sorry, Carolyn. That was awful here. Let's just... It's time for some Blurs Days. You can email me, Andrew, at tbtl.net and put Blurs Day in the subject line. And that's how I will know a Blurs Day waits within. Carolyn wrote to me to say, Happy Blurs Day to my cousin, Deborah in New Zealand. We grew up in the Northwest sharing our birthdays and I love the festivity of having multiple family birthday celebrations all around the same time. I still miss those weird but delicious rice flour birthday cakes and Marion always used to make to accommodate your gluten intolerance. Love you cousin. I hope your day is a special one. So it sounds like we have a couple of Blurs Days here, both to Deborah and Carolyn whose birthdays are around the same time. Betty Nessmith Graham, mother of Monkeys Michael Nessmith, invented the typewriter correction fluid liquid paper in 1956 working as a Texas Bank secretary. She built it into a multi-million dollar company before selling it to Gillette for 47 and a half million dollars in 1979. Wow! In 1979. Died in 1980, by the way. This is such a boring thing to say but I was surprised. When you said selling it to Gillette, I thought that sale would have been 90s or post 90s because I think of Gillette as being like shaving skin care kind of stuff. I'm like, oh Gillette must have like bought one of the big office supply companies sometime more recently but no Gillette was cranking out white out back in the 70s. Founded in 1901, Gillette, an American brand of safety razors. It's so funny because Andrew, you and I have grown up in the era where there's nothing, really there's almost nothing that isn't a safety razor. Like we're not from like my dad had you know the actual razor blade that you click into the thing and your dad probably did as well maybe I don't know. But like I would always see safety razors and I was like safety, safety for what? Because that's just what it is now but back in the day that was called a safety razor in the Gillette company. It's now owned by Proctor and Gamble. Okay so that I mean that all makes sense except why was Gillette if it's is known as a... Yeah why were they buying white out? Maybe they were like selling it as stuff you could put on your face if you nicked yourself a little bit. You know instead of toilet paper. I could use that. Yeah. I show up to a CBS shoot I just have white out over various parts of my face. Is this noticeable? Happy Blurs I Caroline and Deborah. Erika says this blurs is the blurs of 50 and I can kick, stretch, kick slowly and with effort. Sally O'Malley. Every year during the Pacific Northwest dark time I wish I could go somewhere warm and this year I have splurged. My dear boyfriend and I are departing for Hawaii for five glorious days. I will beach, I will swim, I will nap, I will revel in the goodness of the freshest fruit but probably not bananas. Happy Blurs Day to all other aquariums the rarest. By the way RIP. This time I mean it that's the guy from Smash Mail. Hey um Genevieve we got let's have Genevieve on the show maybe next week I'm just thinking about this now. Genevieve is suddenly at age 48 I want to say maybe 47 she is ripshit about her zodiac sign. I don't know why it came up. That is really a plot twist. She is a Pisces and she is now going around telling people well she doesn't really talk about this much but she's just telling herself she has self appointed a different sign to herself that she thinks she's like I am not a water sign she's like I am the opposite of a water sign. She could absolutely be allowed to change your sign. So we need to you know I actually think that would be a good conversation to come up. Yeah maybe Monday or something and I'm a Sagittarius which is a pretty pretty badass sign and she's reading it and she's like you're not a Sagittarius. I'm like I'm the sign that you know did I tell you that um uh no I didn't because I was telling Becca this I was backstage at Livewire I know you got to go Andrew so I'll be brief but I'll be obtuse. I was backstage at Livewire and it was Becca's birthday last week which was part of why we went down to Florida for a little celebration and I was telling the Livewire folks about that and then it was her birthday and one of our producers Melanie Sevchenko who I absolutely love she said um uh oh wow okay so she is a I don't even know what her sign is whatever last week would have been. Let's go with Pisces I'm gonna guess. Oh she's a Pisces and I'm okay um well you know more about this than I thought. I only know because that's Genevieve's real sign is Pisces and she does she's rejected it but anyway. Let's go with uh whatever last week was let's call it is Aquarius a thing Aquarius okay that sounds that sounds right so she's oh she's an Aquarius and I go yeah I'm a Taurus is like Aquarius and Taurus good she goes no it's the worst oh a compatibility it's the absolute worst compatibility she's like it's she goes I dated an Aquarius and it was awful later I learned he was bipolar and I was like that might have been also part of it maybe that I wonder if that was as big of a factor as him being an Aquarius well you know me I I'm an Adrienne monk with a Bob Belcher rising that's what I always say I saw a guy on the plane yesterday who was a Bob's Burgers carrot like a drawing uh huh Beck and I could we were in the front row of coach and we were watching a guy in the front row or the back row first class we couldn't place him for the whole flight and I was like and then when he got up to stretch and grab his leg I was like that's a Bob's burger was he talking to a turkey at any point yes he was god I love Bob all right let's do some more we got Erica we just we just wished Erica a happy blurs day and I hope you have a great trip I think you're actually having that trip right now got this note from Chad that says I'd like to wish my middle five gram a wonderful and happy 20th birthday and I know you're bummed to be quote turning old oh god Chad I get it and and what's the gram what's the what's the fives name Graham Graham I get it I had my first midlife crisis at 20 I really did yeah like I guess they would call that a quarter life crisis if you're lucky I guess but yeah at 20 was hard for me 20 felt like yeah for real like I was like somehow it felt like I was I don't know it felt to me like my life was sort of half over at 20 which turned out to not be true no thankfully thankfully uh anyway Graham feels like he's turning old but hey for the rest of your life you get to say you became a commercial pilot at 19 what what a year we're so proud of you G and your mom bro sis and I love you so much 19 years old dang dude flying I have been giant giant metal birds I've been thinking about that I've been thinking about flying them giant metal birds because there are two different airstrips near me it's one of the nice things about living in rural America they've a lot of airstrips and they have signs that say flight lessons and I'm I'm I'm thinking that in my 50th year on this planet I might I might treat myself to some flying lessons that'd be a plot for the show it would be and that's what they say to you should kind of start taking flying lessons when you're at an age where you're like hearing an eyesight start declining and stuff that's like the perfect thing about writing a book about it called no fear of flying oh is that actually a book I think fear of flying is an Erica Jong book oh okay I'm unfamiliar but anyway I am legit impressed here with Graham yeah that's amazing Graham you're not old so that was from Chad I don't know if this is to the same Chad or a different Chad but this is our pal Amy in Minnesota saying happy blurs day to my husband Reverend Chad I'm so proud oh yeah we love this guy yeah we love them both we love them all I'm so proud that you are sounded like the sounded like such a dismissive thing for me and I was being sincere I'm still of them whoever they are wherever they are we love them all yeah they're great oh love Amy and Chad I'm so proud that you are a newly ordained Unitarian Universalist minister and can now officially use the title Reverend it's pretty cool actually Amy is sending in blurs day messages and various emails and communicates over the years it's I feel like I've been a little bit on this journey with Reverend Chad because we heard about seminary school and now Chad is living the life fully doing it can do marriages can do the counseling can help people find the best version of their life highly support this by the way the Universalist church I think is a great thing and can stand up to ice in the streets which I that's not part of Amy's official message but I think I was going through these very quickly a moment ago but I think Amy said that Chad's been out there on the streets as well if I read that quickly so Amy says it's an understatement to say things are difficult in our home of Minneapolis right now but I'm inspired by how you're doing what you can to stand up for love and justice and I'll make sure to make time for oh no I'll make sure you make time for a birthday drink absolutely happy blurs day Chad absolutely yeah man thanks good trouble man good trouble and finally do you remember the other day Luke this is gonna start with a question uh the other day when I was playing that videotape for you that looked like those home movies or a VHS that was recorded that what seems to be in a Bitter Lake community center we need to update that story yes we do I got a fascinating follow-up email from a listener I can't wait to share with you tomorrow but we also thank some donors that day and Meredith in Britain was one of them and we're wondering did Meredith grow up in Britain or could Meredith possibly have grown up here in Seattle even been in that video in the Bitter Lake community center and then moved to Britain well some of these things are going to be addressed here in this blurs day message because Meredith says please could I wish a happy blurs day to myself it would be a that's very that is already a British way please could I wish a happy blurs day please so could I have more blurs days just a little blurs day that was all over the map that accent I loved it I love a good Greek accent it would be great to celebrate this weekend with a message from my two very favorite imaginary radio friend those happy blurs day Meredith Meredith absolutely Meredith says I do work in London because I think I was making some jokes about or I made some references to working in London I did grow up in America and I was a child in 1994 but unfortunately I did not attend the Easter Egg Hunt at the Bitter Lake community center in northeast Seattle and I can't think of anyone who might have been well more on that watch this space but I will also say Meredith you've really taken to the culture because you spelled the Bitter Lake community center C E N T R E what what's more British than that what's more British than that what color is the building you're gonna hate this but for a while there and I finally have stopped doing this but for a big chunk of my adulthood I spelled color with a U and I spelled gray with an E and I know that that is very British and I've never even been to Britain I wasn't trying to put on airs I just truly believed that those words are better spelled that way because gray yeah is not a colorful bright word it's a bleh word and having an A A is like a sunrise and an E is like a gray foggy day so I was feeling gray with an E and color with a U it adds color to the word I felt very strongly about this but I also understand how absolutely annoying that sounds no that's not annoying you've got a good reason for it that's um that's some synesthesia coming out right I think you're right actually that's a really good point because I sort of claimed to be touched with a little bit of that and yeah no that would be that would that would seem to be an example of that so well happy blurs day everybody yeah to you Luke thank you thank you it's an honor and a privilege just to be nominated um all right that's we didn't even get it tomorrow Andrew please I know let's let's uh let's circle it uh I want to tell you about my somewhat kind of nutty a plan for watching the Super Bowl because I'm trying to hold I'm trying to hold a couple of things simultaneously which is uh the love of family and the love of Seahawks and uh so we'll get into that tomorrow uh in the meantime thank you everybody for listening I'm sorry I know you're winding up I want to give the listeners a warning though we're dialing up a little bit late tomorrow and we have a lot to talk about I'm just realizing I just I feel like tomorrow could end up being a Carol hold your calls this could be a very long show that gets started pretty late so we might be posting the show late tomorrow and I will have just done a local television appearance we have so much to talk about hello rose city you still don't even know what we're doing in our basement oh my god dude the basement could be for me that could be easily 10 hours of show and I would only be beginning to I would only be beginning to scratch the surface so yeah uh buckle up for a big show tomorrow the good news is the Seahawks are on a buy so we have nothing to do this weekend we can spend it in quiet reflection and listening to tvtl in the meantime thanks for listening everybody have a great rest of your thursday we will see you tomorrow with more imaginary radio in the meantime please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all i'm an obtuse man so i'll try to be oblique power out