Lisa Rinna: "The Traitors" & Fashion

When you're Jeff Lewis, the drama never stops. Stop fucking apologizing. You're not making it any better. You're just reminding me how late we are. I know I'm specific. I know I'm a little high maintenance, which is why I tip really fucking well. I don't wanna start shit, but. Oh, really? Really? Okay. Really? Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Jeff Lewis has issues. Hey, welcome to Jeff Lewis has issues. In today's episode, Lisa Rinna joins the show. We discussed Lisa's experience on the Traders and her new career in fashion. Plus Lisa reveals who she's still speaking to from the housewives. Good morning. Good morning, Jeff. We were just talking, Lisa Rinna was my 11th guest in 2017 when we started this show. And then you came back three months later and then we never saw you again. Ha ha ha ha. But here you are. And here I am. She got busy. But we got very lucky because we had Harry Hamlin on last year in March. You remember things. I would never remember the date. I would never remember the time. I happen to keep a very, an eight year schedule of this show of who was on the dates and the songs we played. Wow. I know. It's so weird. It's like the longest Microsoft Word document you've ever seen. Wow. And it just keeps going and going and going. It's impressive. We'll get to you. But let's talk about Harry for a second. Okay. I love Harry. And so he came on. He's so sweet. He came on and we did a, we taste tested his pasta sauce. Harry's famous. And we loved it. But then I found out that he's now released three more sauces. So here's four sauces at Gelsons right now. It's because you never go to the grocery store. That's why you would now. That is true. I haven't been since COVID, Lisa. Why? I love going to the grocery store. Where do you go? I like to go to Gelsons. But just, that's my store. And then he happened to get his sauce in the store. That's my place. I like Gelsons. How often you go grocery shopping, Lisa? Well, it just depends. But I like to go grocery shopping. I'm a grocery shopper. I like to go. I like to have my cart. I like to wander around. I have a really good Gelsons I go to. So it's like my Gelsons. Are you going to the Valley Gelsons? Are you? Yep. That's where Kyle Richards goes. A lot of people go over the hill to the Valley Gelsons. Yeah, I go right there. I like them both. Yeah. Okay. So he's, okay. So I have the Rosemary Red Wine at home. But now he's got the Lemon Pepper Dill. Oh, the Marinara. Marinara is so good. And the spicy vodka. That's the one. I've had that one. That's my jam. But now I think I want to try this Marinara. Marinara is my friend Robin's favorite. She loves it. So everybody kind of has their favorite. Some people love the dill. Wait, Robin. Is she the neighbor Robin? Yeah, Fujimoto. I met Robin. You remember Robin Fujimoto? I remember Robin. Yeah, you have the best memory. Yes. Really? But I remember Robin. Yeah. That's Robin's favorite. She loves it. So cute. That is so funny. I'm really glad to hear that Harry's sauce is doing well. And that I do like Mayfair witches. He's filming it right now. He's coming back. He's coming back season three. And then I was surprised, but very happy to see you on Traders season four. Why were you surprised? I just thought, I mean, I thought you were a big get for them. Did you? And I, you know, when I know it's supposed to be favored nations, but I feel like you negotiated more. I don't think it's favored nations. Oh, so everybody. I don't think it is. OK, so everyone gets a different fee. I mean, I don't know, but. OK. Yeah. It's it's it was a good fee. It's a good fee. No, no, I was I was thinking it was going to cost them. Yeah, it did. It did. It did. I just checked into Traders this season. Wow. So I never watched it. And now I'm in it. I am so in it. I'm so invested. I just write up who are your favorites in the house? You know, I loved everybody, which is so shocking because that has not been my experience in group settings. Or life or in life. That's not been my experience either. Right. So I was really surprised to go on this show and be good with 22 different people. Wow. All of them. I love them all. And I I I don't know what that's about. I was thinking that last night when I was looking on Instagram because you and Colton obviously had your moments, but now like on he's liking all your posts and your commenting back and forth. Like I feel like you guys are good. Well, here's the thing. Colton was a great nemesis for me on that show. I'd never had a gay man come after me. I had women come after me and here this gay man is like just like stinger missile on me. Yeah. And I was actually grateful for it. I was like, wow. Cool. I didn't know anything before. Like I didn't know his past. I didn't. So he's a friend of the show. He's on the show a lot. Is he? Yeah, he's great. We like him here. I had a great time with him. I really did. I think the problem is, is that, you know, he's he's tall and he's good looking and he's charming and you can sway the vote. Just like Rob can do. Yeah. I'm watching these guys work these women and work. Please. I mean, Johnny, we're just I mean, he just follows those those guys just telling where to go and Johnny just follows. The dynamic is so hilarious. Watching it now after doing it. You don't know all of that's going on. You know, you only kind of know what, you know, and then once I started to see that, you know, Colton and Rob have this alliance. I had no idea while we were there. None. That Rob fucked you over. He fucked me over so hard, didn't he? I had no idea. Aren't you a little bit pissed? Well, here's the thing. I'm a little bit pissed that he that he broke up the group. Yeah. It was really the best trader group I think of all time. So that's where I was like, listen, it's a game. He's playing it way better than I ever could have thought to play it. So I can't fault him for that, but I can be like, OK, Robbie Bobby's in the doghouse and he's a very bad boy. And I spanked him right after he gave me the first vote. I literally took him out in the hallway and I spanked him. And the other people who voted for me, Natalie, Eric and someone else, I put in the corner and made him have a time out. That's the truth. So I had fun in every single moment. I have now. I love Michael Rappaport. I do too. What is it? I mean, I just I loved him. I thought it was great television. Are you kidding me? As traders, we just sat back and we were like, he's the best shield possible. I didn't have to do anything for the first four episodes. I just sat there like smoking a cigarette, basically, because he did everything. He was great for the traders. And you know what? Great for the traders. He could he can say everything I've ever said on Housewives. Every housewife, he knows more about me and other housewives than I have ever known. He's amazing. I love him. I agree. I love him. Now, Caroline Stansbury, she's going to be on next week. And I'm probably guessing she doesn't like you. She's OK with me. Listen, I've known Caroline Caroline for 10 years. Every time she sees me, she takes the piss out of me. She's a Brit. She fucks with me. We have this whole sarcastic thing going, whatever. She deserved that more than anybody. It was so much fun. I murdered her. I gave her the greatest soap opera moment. I put my soap hat on in that moment. I was like, I'm going to give her a great death so much better than if she'd had to walk in the room and pick up the envelope and be like, Bop, what? What? I gave her a great ending. I did. I called you a bitch. Wasn't it great? It was. And that dialogue back and forth was just like completely improvised. It was great. I'm so I'm starting to, you know, I think is a nice guy that Steven, the guy from Laguna Bay. Oh, so nice. He's a nice guy. Very handsome. Very nice guy. Yes. Very nice. I like to I liked everybody. I like Tara. If you're quiet, you can go a long way on the show. I mean, that's kind of like the way to go. Are you kidding? Just to fly under the radar. You know, listen, when I came into that castle, I already had a target on my back. You know what I mean? Like everybody kind of expected you to be something, of course, and expectations are resentments waiting to happen. Period. So I didn't like that. You know, I didn't I was like, I'm a trader. I don't have to have an alliance with a housewife. I don't have to have an alliance with anyone. I'm a fucking trader. So that's why I'm not mad at Rob in the end because he's a trader. That's what you do. But would I have liked to not have him come for me? Yeah, of course. See, I didn't think you were a great trader. I wasn't a great trader because I was a liar. You're not a liar. I know. And I'm not. And that's the problem. He is Michael Rapaport. I know. So I just there are certain people that don't lie, that say everything. Yeah, and you too. Same. I may be a terrible trader. I've said this on the radio show. I mean, I cannot be a trader. Well, I'll be gone the first night. Well, how did I last at seven episodes? Are you kidding me? I sucked as a trader, but I was iconic. They criticize you for being kind of quiet. Did you feel like you were being quiet? Oh, I knew I was being quiet. That was a choice. Listen, I had to really play it very carefully. If I'd been too loud, I'd have been called out for that also. So I chose the quiet round because I knew that that was the way most people got further along. So I chose that. You look cute on the show. Do you do your own makeup? Yeah, you have to do your own hair and makeup. You look good. Well, thanks. Yeah. I mean, HDTV lighting and doing your own hair and makeup in a castle with like no lighting. Like that ain't easy. How was the food really? It sucked. OK, I figured it sucked because they're all fighting over the salmon. Well, here's the thing. I'm going to tell you the truth. There's not enough protein. That's why they're fighting over the salmon in the morning. Because if you think about it, there's the salmon and there are those eggs. Yeah, that's it. The rest is like sweet rolls and toast. Is that your actual breakfast that we see? Oh, yeah. And that's your actual dinner. And you're eating on camera. Guys, there's never enough food. That's why Michael eats like that. Everyone's starving to death. He's shoveling in. It looks like an airport lounge. Ew. The food. It's terrible. It's giving American Airlines. It's giving like United. Not even the lounge within the lounge. I haven't ever heard of Delta 1. I'm like, where's the hamachi? There's not enough protein. So we were always saying, can we have more chicken breasts? Can we have more anything? And it got better to get better. But listen, at that point, you just have to shovel food in your mouth so you can survive, you know? God, I was bummed that you left. I was bummed that Michael left. I wasn't. I was not. Here's what I thought in my mind. If I can go seven episodes and I just need to stay long enough so I can wear that couture gown because that's all I wanted. And so I feel like a winner because, listen, did I really want to win? Did I really care? I don't know. I never thought I would win. It's not life changing money. It's not life changing money. I can make that like in an afternoon. I mean, I have to be honest about it. I understand. Like I would love for people to have that money that I need. Some of those people need it. Act of charity to lose. Some of those people. You did a good thing for those people. I know I did. So, right? Yes, because some of them really need it. I know. A few of them. So I think I did a good thing. And I feel like I won because I get to go out in a very iconic way. Yeah. What were you? Who were you wearing that night at the banquet? This amazing designer, Eric Charlotte, go online, Instagram. So freaking talented. How did the outfits work? How many suitcases did you bring and how do you choose what to wear? Well, you have to plan for the whole time, even if you're going to be on for one. So that's why Portia was so pissed. She had she had 11 outfits. She invested. I hope she got the tags on. Yeah, I mean, that I don't I don't blame her. You're like, fuck, I spent all this time getting all these outfits. And I get to wear like one. But I felt like every outfit you wore was appropriate. I feel like some people it looked like costumes. I know. You had to be. It's a real fine line. The only costume should have been at the banquet, period. I agree. That's it. And that's why I went in the way I did. I was, you can't compete with Alan. He's the king. Right. There I am in the Eric Charlotte. Was that good? Good. Was so good. And I love to, you know, highlight designers that aren't necessarily known. I mean, how fantastic. This designer is cool. He's so cool. And so anyway, to answer your question, you pack for, think 11, you do 11 outfits, plus that one. And they said, we want you to dress for the banquet like you're going to the Met Gala. I was like, oh, OK. That's why. OK. And that's why everybody dressed the way they did. You know, Candice was amazing. Mara looked amazing. She's been she was there. Was there some sort of accusations, I think, from Colton that that because you were sunglasses, you're a trader. Was there something? Did I catch that? Yeah, something about theory. I mean, like you're reaching Colton. You always wear sunglasses. I'm like, yeah, and you're wearing them now. I'm wearing them right now. She's a trader. And they're cute. Thank you. Me and you. You love them. Yeah, I love them, too. Listen, I always wear sunglasses. I'm like, welcome to my world. That is the chicest. Thank you, Doree. I do want to ask about the girls. The only reason I have the only reason I have energy tonight or today is because I'm drinking. You and I are drinking a Celsius. Yes, because you were up all night. I hear. Yes, I was up and you remember those days. Now, we still have them. I mean, they're still around. Why can't they make it to the toilet when they're throwing up? Oh, Jeff, did you have that last night? Oh, just throwing up on the side of the bed. I know. Can't we even just try, Lisa? Can we just try? No. Did you prep a garbage pail or a bowl or something? Let me just tell you how bad it is. Yeah. So I went to bed at 10 30 because I was watching Traders. And I slept three hours at 140. Daddy, I'm freezing. And so I started piling blankets on. She's like, I'm freezing her teeth were chattering. She's like, I want to take a bath. I said, OK, so now we get her in the bathtub. Now she doesn't want to get out because she's so cold. I get her dressed, brush the hair, lotion, the whole thing back in bed. Five minutes later, throwing up. So that I had to do it again. And then now it's three 30. And did you have to change the sheets? Are they all over the bed? Well, most of it most of it made it on the side of the bed. There was a little bit of cleanup, Lisa, but but most of us on the side of the bed. Sorry on a rug. No, thank God, I remember that. OK, good. Hardwood floors. Great. So easy. Easy. Get the Swiffer work. You don't feel bad. But do you remember? Did they have all kinds of because she's like, I did. She's like, Daddy, she goes, I want raccoonie and I want Raja. I'm like, there's 50 fucking stuffed animals here. Which one is the one? And she's because she's like, Raja, Raja, where's Raja? I'm like, oh, God, do you remember this with the girls? I do. I remember all of it. Are you kidding? And they're still like that. I mean, they still have their like little their little doll, their little animals. It's they never grow up really. Then at 430, I was doing leg and arm massages. I feel for you. Did you do the cleanup or did you leave it for your housekeepers today? I OK, so I just throw towels over it. I did have a housekeeper there. Oh, thank God. At the time in the middle of the night. Yes, but I did such a diva. More of a diva than I am. I don't even have that. Thank God. Thank God. She was there. No, she woke up. I would not. I would not have woken her up. So she was like, I do you need? Do you need help? And I go, yes, I do. So yes, I had I had help. OK, so it's like having a wife. But here's the thing. Aurora is her wife. It doesn't matter. She wanted me. Exactly. She wanted me. It doesn't matter. I know. So it's like, you did the cleanup. I'll handle her. Very smart teamwork. But the girls are good. So you said that Delilah lives in New York. Delilah lives here. Here. And Amelia lives in New York. In New York, but she's basically living on a plane because, you know, she's become quite a supermodel and she's flying all over the world. And it's just so exciting to see someone. When they want something, they set out to do it and they get it. Does Delilah have her own apartment or does she live? She's a house. Oh, she's a house. Oh, yeah. These girls have done really well. Wow. That's nice. She's renting a house. Right. Really cute house. And, you know, she's doing her music. She loves to sing. Isn't she's dating someone? Not right now. Okay. We've been through that a lot, but no one right now. Single right now. And if you liked the men that your girls have dated? Mostly, not all. No. I really liked Delilah's last boyfriend, Henry. Like, when you really like one and they go, sad. But the ones that you don't like, you're really happy that they're gone when they go. No, I don't like everyone. Because you can't really intervene. No, you can't. And especially if you say... That's gonna be a problem for me. It's gonna be really a problem. You're gonna intervene. You're gonna, you can't help it and they're so mad at you. Like, I can't help it. I'm like, my gut tells me he's not good. They're like, you can't say that. You don't like him. You're not nice to him. Da-da-da-da. Well, oh well. And then how's Harry with them? Is he's a little quiet, a little more reserved? Yeah. So you're the one that... Harry scares the shit out of him. I bet. He scares the shit out of me when I first met her. Right? He don't cast a spell on me. Yeah, he's scary. Mayfair witch. So he keeps that, I think, going just because it's fun. I brought up this story and I might even brought it up with Harry. The first time that I met you and Harry, it was at Chaz Dean's house. It certainly was. And he had a private dinner and I want to say, Curtis Stone maybe was cooking? Your memory is way better than mine, but I'm gonna go with it and say yes, Curtis. Because you said something to me that I have carried with me for my life. He quotes it every three days. Because I watched you and it was good food. But you were teeny, teeny, teeny. And you are. And I said, my god, Lisa, because you were right next to me. You go, I'm like... I sat right next to you, yes. I go, you eat. She goes, oh honey, I'm not gonna eat for three days after this. I didn't say that, I remember now. And I'm like, OK, good. All right, so I can eat and they're just not eat for two days and then I'm good. How come it's not working for you? Oh wow. Because I... Oh wow. I know she's mean. Wow, she's a bitch. She really is. Wow. And then this is where Harry intimidated me. Because there was that Ming-Nah, what is it? Oh, Ming-Nah. Ming-Nah. Ming-Nah, I think. She was just gorgeous skin. Yes. And you and I zeroed in. And we were talking about how good she looks. And I was stupid. I must have had like one or two drinks. That's all we need to even be more stupid, right? And I said, I wish I was Asian. Did you say that? And then your husband said how profound. He loves you. You guys hit it off. Did he say that? Yes, he did. Oh my god. Well, it was a stupid statement. You know what I mean? Like, so he clocked me. Well, good. It was funny. It was funny. Are you still close to Chas? I don't get to see him as much, but we do have back and forth from time to time. I mean, I love him. Did he send you his dryer? His blow dryer? No, he did not. He just sent me a whole bunch of product though. Lisa. Excuse me. Why don't I have that? Send it back and ask for the dryer. What? It's so good. You need his hair dryer. Because, um. He has his own hair dryer? Oh yes, he does. Well, maybe I'm not as close as I thought I was. I mean, we've got three of them. I mean, we just have them around the house. Why did you not make Chas your daughter's godfather? That's what I did. Stupid. Stupid. Sometimes I'm not that smart, Jeff. I mean, with the WEN empire. Look at this. He has no kids. I know he has no kids. It's stupid. Min Rose in line. I know. You're lucky. Smarter than I am. You're smarter than I am. So what's great about this blow dryer is it doesn't. So he's, um, it only goes to a certain temperature. So it doesn't burn your hair. Because the Dyson burned the shit out of Min Rose's hair. No. But he came in, he fixed it. OK. And it's growing and it's thick and it looks great. Well, because, you know, when Delilah was five, her best friend, they had a play date and they cut her hair all off. Has Min Rose ever had this? No. It was so traumatic, like to the scalp. She looked like a cancer victim. No. And I was working. Remember when I was doing soap talk? Yes. I was doing soap talk. They call Harry and they go, she had long hair all the way down to her butt. Cut it off. It's like string, string, strings, strings here. Cut to her head. Harry was like, oh my god, Lisa's going to fucking freak out. What do we do? He goes, I'm going to call Chas Dean. It's like a Saturday. Saturday afternoon, Chas comes to the house. Delilah hasn't seen herself in the mirror yet. And we have like these mirrors in our, in our playroom. So they called the pediatrician. They were like, what do we do? They were like, cover the mirrors. So they like put paper all over the mirrors. Chas comes over and gives her like, has to give her a pixie, pixie haircut. Yeah, of course. All of it off. The next day she put a bandana on. We took her to Disneyland so that, you know, she was devastated when she found out what she had done. Chas fixed it. And then it grew out into like the cutest shag. Ask Chas about it. I'm going to see him Sunday. Ask him about Delilah's shag. It was iconic. We'll be watching K-pop demon hunters in his screening room. And I'll ask him for a blow dryer for you. Thank you. Sure. Appreciate it. You always take care of me. So thank you. Now, we lost this call. This caller was on. I was going to grab it. But they asked, which I thought was a really good question. They said, when Colton came to you and made you that offer. Right. Where you protect him. He doesn't out you. Did you consider his offer? Not for one second. OK. No. Because you knew he'd fuck you over. I knew he was going to fuck me over no matter what. So I was ready, but I didn't expect that. You know, I read a rumor online that Colton approached a theory that Colton approached Rob with that offer and Rob has accepted it. And so parent and so the working theory is that Colton knows who the traders are and well, that that's a little bit of my theory now that I'm back stepping. Yeah, that has not even occurred to me. Of course, because the approach. Why would I be in? OK, well, how would I have? How would you have come up with that? Like when he said it to me, I was like, oh, this is a trap. I'm not falling for it. I think now I don't know if they would ever admit it. I'm going to ask at the reunion. I have a feeling that Rob told Colton I was a trader. I just have a sense of that. Interesting. And I think they were working together and they were doing exactly what Colton offered me. That is my sense of it. I'm not, but I don't know. And remember. Rob probably needs that money, right? So he could see he needs to secure his position. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe you make it in a day. Afternoon. Speaking of. Speaking of for snakes, maybe you want more snakes. I don't know. Speaking of making money, you just wrote a new book. You better believe I'm going to talk about it. It is out now. By the way, the bitch over there read the whole thing. Did you read it? She read the whole thing in two days, right? Three, but yeah, it's easy. She's slow, slow. She read it. OK. Well, that's OK. Three is OK. Did you like it? I loved it. What would you love about it? I liked hearing your story. I like to hear about your mom, your daughters. I love hearing about like how you like all the money went through and like the clothes and the businesses. Yeah. Yeah. Your businesses. Yeah. Oh my god, it was inspiring. I love it. Good. OK, that's a great. And it was juicy, which I appreciate. And I have a question for you. What? Why did Lois never write a book about her crazy experience? I know. I don't know. I think probably it was a little too traumatic, Jeff. We're talking about when she was attacked by that serial killer. By a serial killer? Yeah. She almost died. Yeah. Which we saw on Housewives. She talked about it on Housewives. Yeah. I mean, that could have been a book, a movie, a series. I know. I know. David Carpenter, who's still in prison. I think they took him off of death row. Can you tell the story? It's a great way to open your book. Can you tell the story real quick? Yeah. Lisa? I will. OK, so my mom was 30, living in San Francisco. She was working with this guy. And she felt sorry for him. He had a stutter. And one day she was at the bus stop going to the dentist. He came by the bus stop. He said, Lois, I want to take you to meet my new baby. He was married, had a new baby. She's like, no, I have to go get on the bus and go to the dentist. And he kept at it, kept at it. She felt sorry for him. She got in the car. As they started driving, he was not stuttering. Stop stuttering. And she was like, uh-oh. Something, it's not right. David, what's going on? Why are you not, what are you doing? Lois, I just, something comes over me. And he starts to drive her down the Presidio, which is like a military base in San Francisco. Luckily, a military policeman sees them drive down this deserted road. I know, it gives me chills. You're getting like, shaking. He's always shaking. He's cold. It was 92 pounds. Well, that's true. You need more layers. Anyway, so luckily, a military police saw them go down. As he goes down, drives my mom down, he stops the car, takes a gun, or takes a knife out of the glove box, goes at my mom with a knife. She grabs it with her hand. So slices off her fingers. Her fingers are like dangling. And then David sees the military police in the mirror, the rear view mirror. So he reaches in the back of the car, gets a hammer, starts hitting her over the head with a hammer. And that is the story. She drops her purse. Somehow her door opens, drops her purse out. And all she wanted to do, she's in shock, obviously, is pick up the contents of her purse. As the guy gets out, David Carpenter gets out, the military policeman shoots him in the stomach, and he lives. Whoa. That's a crazy story. He goes to prison, plea deal for six years, gets out. Once he gets out, he kills about 25 people. No. Oh, yeah. It's a trailside killer. Two different killings, like trailside, mill, valley, like 25. Who knows how many? He's like a Ted Bundy that just didn't get press, and didn't have stories. He didn't have the right publicist. He didn't have Jeff. He didn't have Jeff. So he didn't have stories written about him, but he killed as many people. It's crazy. So there were only three women who survived. And during the penalty phase, my mom had to go testify. They all three had to go testify. So I went and watched. You did? How old were you? 21 years old. Oh, my gosh. It's traumatic. Yeah. Yeah, the two other women, they were raped, horribly, but they survived. All of them got away. Everybody else? Wow. Yeah. So I mean, that's a book. Well, it certainly is. And I mean, when you come from something like that, I mean, talk about generational trauma. Like, I come out with that. That's like in my DNA. Oh, so you're making it about you? Of course. I just googled him. It's almost like it happened to you. I see why he didn't get the press. Yeah. Oh, he's not cute. He's bald. Oh, is he ugly? Can we see it? Very ugly. He's very, very unfortunate looking. Oh. Yeah. Look. Look here. You just looked up Sabrina Carpenter. I can't even look at him. Oh, he's not cute. See, if he was cute, he would have been more famous. Ryan Murphy show about him. Well, Ryan Murphy should actually look into that. It would make an interesting story. Ryan Murphy needs to use you again. He should be because the only reason I watched that was because you were in it playing the modeling agent. Thank you. And I was good, wasn't I? You were good. I was really good. Why is Ryan Murphy not using you again? I don't know. You have to ask him. He will. I truly believe he will. You could have been in beauty. Well, Amelia was. Amelia is in the third episode of Beauty. You have to watch it. Holy shit. I watched it. I'm waiting in it. The very beginning of Beauty, she's with Megan Trainor and. Wait, did she? Did she kill someone? No. You say Ben Platt. Ben Platt and Megan. That's her in the beginning. And she like blows up. She's the model in the cafeteria. Yes. I didn't under. Oh my God. Her first acting job. That. How crazy. I didn't realize that was her. Amelia Gray. Yeah. Her acting debut blown up. Holy shit. Ryan Murphy is just. Wow. He's just handing out roles to your family. Yeah. Delilah's the only one who hasn't worked for him yet. Yet. Yet. Yet. Yet. Harry could work. I mean, he's a, I mean, Harry's a fantastic actor. Well, he did glee. Harry did glee with him. There you go. There you are. That was good. I believe that he's going to put me in another series. I do believe that. Just, he's just waiting for the right. You do. Roll. Moment. Right. The right afternoon. The right afternoon. Exactly. So you're waiting for the right paycheck is what you're waiting for. No, not even. I would, I would work for him for free. I literally watched that because you were in it. Thank you. Thank you all so much for being here at our wedding. I can't believe I get to spend the rest of my life with a woman of my dreams. Speaking of dreams. Have you ever dreamed of tasting all the colours of the rainbow? Because that is exactly what you get with Skittles. Five bold fruit flavours in every pack. Lemon, orange, lime, strawberry and black currant. They're chewy. They're colourful. They're perfect. Just like my wife. So thank you for coming and remember to buy Skittles. Shamelessly promote the rainbow. Taste the rainbow. I also screwed up a little bit. So the book, you better believe I'm going to talk about it, is actually it's going to be released on February 24th. But there's, you can go on the wait list now, right? You can pre-order it. You can pre-order it. OK, so you can do that. Pre-order it. And then I did an audiobook too. First audiobook. Oh, you did. I did. So I'd never done an audiobook. And so you'll get, you'll get the Rina voice and everything. So you don't have to read it if you would rather listen. Also, Traders Season 4 is streaming now on Peacock. I highly recommend it. And then if you don't have a gelsons in your neighbourhood or you don't go to the one in Sherman Oaks where Lisa Rina shops at, you can buy Harry's. He has four different sauces out now. You go to harrysfamous.com. Thank you, Jeff, for that. You're welcome. You're welcome. All right, so I do want to talk to you. I'm sure it just is going to follow you for the rest of your life. But Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, you were on season five through 12. Yes, eight years. And I'm curious where you're at today, because I had read that you were not completely happy about how they handled your exit. I was not. How long ago was that? Did you leave? What season were you leaving? Three years. OK. Three years. And how do you feel today? I, today I am in a much better place, obviously, than I was three years ago. You know, my mother had passed away. And, you know, truth be told, I should have taken a moment and not maybe done that year. And just done the grieving and not done the show. I think that was where I made a mistake. Yes. Because I'm a worker bee and I'm like, I have a contract. I got to go do it. And I was not in a headspace to do that. And it fucked me up. And it was difficult, you know? It was difficult to grieve in the public eye. And I also don't think that people are comfortable watching other people grieve. It's too painful. And I think I triggered a lot of stuff in people. They didn't know why they were upset with me. But I think that had something to do with it. So it was a really, really difficult ending to that chapter. You were in pain. I was in a lot of pain. And I'm totally different now. That show was great for me. I wouldn't change it. It's a difficult show to do when it's that, when it's painful like that. It became toxic. I think everyone can agree it was a toxic season. And I'm just glad that I am where I am now. I mean, we talked about this briefly before the show. But I mean, it launched your daughter's careers. I mean, look where they are today. It certainly did. I mean, that show, listen, you've got to do something with it, you know, and they did. You also killed it on QVC. I had a great run at QVC eight years. You know, it has been really great. I mean, I have been really fortunate. I'm glad that it ended. I'm really happy to not be a housewife, to not be in that world anymore. I really love where I am now. I'm an actor at the end of the day, you know? Yes. However, you just never know what the future holds, right? Correct. I never in a million years thought I would be back at Bravo. But then, you know, there's other reasons, right? Which you and I discussed. And, you know, I'll tell you, for me, I was lucky because, you know, the dissolution of my relationship. Right. I mean, if we had had a season 12, all of that would have been exposed and covered. And I think that would have been bad for the both of us and bad for Monroe. It just, it's in a way, I was very, very lucky. However, I don't love how they handled it. My ex said either. Oh, you don't? I don't. And so I want to say for six months, 12 months, not happy. Yeah. But then you kind of, and it's funny, because the second my mind set switched, where I was grateful, new show showed up. Right. The second. Exactly. Now, it has to organically happen, right? Like, it took me a little bit longer than that, I would say. Yes. But the minute that happened, boom, look, I mean, the fashion career took off. Like, all of a sudden, that was not on my bingo card. I have to ask you about that. Because I see you over and over and over again, being photographed at every high-end fashion show, wearing these crazy outfits. You're like the fashion it girl now. It's crazy. It's just crazy. It is insane. I know. Like, I would never have thought that that is what would have happened after I left Housewives, right? You're at every show. I know. How does this happen? Well, all I can tell you is I've had that passion, and I've loved fashion my whole life. So that's already there. So the universe must have just said, you know what? I'm going to just do this for you now. You're going to go here. And I'm like, OK. And literally, I got a call. Jeff, my publicist, called me and said, do you think you would want to get on a plane in four days and go to Paris for a fashion show? And I was like, yeah. So I did. And they flew me there, and they put me up in the George Sank, and they flew Jeff there with me. And it was so magical. We went to the Kenzo show. And I thought, OK, you know what? This is really fun. And I said, why don't we stay for the whole fashion week? So we did, and called Jeff and invited me to other shows. And I just kept saying yes. And now three years later, here we are. I just keep saying yes. OK. Yes, it's couture, honey. Yes. OK. So it sounds to me like it's a paid gig, and then they pay for you to go. And then they give you clothes. Like, do you get to keep the clothes? You don't get to keep the clothes. But. So you borrow the clothes. They put you in the clothes. They put you in the clothes. You pick the clothes you want to wear. Like, every part is different. Sometimes they pay you. Sometimes they cover hair and makeup. Like, it depends. It really depends. I'm not doing it as a money-making thing, though it has been very valuable to me. Brought you a lot of exposure. It has. So it's really, really valuable. But at the end of the day, I just love so. I'm having so much fun. So it looks like there's a few calls. I'm going to just summarize it for you. They want to know who you friends with with your former castmates, which I'm sure everybody would like to know that. I'm happy to tell you. Erica. Erica. Kyle. OK. Teddy. Dereet. And that's it. And that's it. Now, it's interesting because did she say this in her book, Annie, that Crystal Minkoff is not a great housewife? I did. And she agrees with it. She comes on this show a lot. We're good friends. And she is so different on this show than she was in the housewives. But you have to understand, they have a lot to protect, right? Rob Minkoff's career. I think she went in and she's like. And she puts a pressure on herself. And you had a lot to protect, too. And it seems to me that there was a point in time where you insulated Harry Hamlin from that show. Oh, from day one. You had to. Oh, day one. No, we had a special deal. I mean, that's the truth. We had a special deal that Harry Hamlin would only have to show up three times because I did not want to ruin his career. Yes. And at the end of the day, Andy said OK. And otherwise, I wouldn't have done the show because I was not going to jeopardize his career. So we made a deal. And they stuck to it. And I stuck to it, too. Is it? I also thought it was interesting. She said she didn't drink on camera. She was on camera for like twice. For five years, I did not drink. Now, the last three I did. But for the first five years, I was stone cold sober that whole time. Did Harry suggest that? Oh, he said you must not drink. Really? Oh, yeah. He said if you're going to do this show, you cannot drink. And I was like, OK, I think that's probably good advice. That's smart. Now, Amsterdam happened during that time. I wasn't drunk. I wasn't straight up. Just clear as a bell. Were you the first actress to ever be, besides from Kyle? Ileane. Ileane and I came on the same time. Remember the first year I auditioned for Housewives? And Andy, I got very far. And then Andy said. I didn't know that. Yeah. Andy said no actors. I was like, OK, cool. Yeah, I was there. I was up there with Kyle and Vanderpump and Adrian. Yeah, I didn't know what I was doing. And I was like, all right. Whatever. And then he was like, no actresses. So five years later, it was really interesting when I got the call that maybe that was something we would talk about and I thought, that could be interesting. It's good real estate. That's what I thought. I was like, you know. You recognize opportunities. I do. So do you. You and I have that in common. Because you've been doing this for what? 37 years. Wow. It's a long time. So a lot of it is, you know, you said that Jeff, your publicist, talked you into traders. Yeah. Oh, the whole team did. Because I watched it. I really liked it. But I said, I'd rather watch it than do it. I don't want to do it. I like to watch it. And then, you know, took about six months. And they like, just kept talking about the value of it, the endorsements that you can get from it, how hot it was, yada, yada, yada. And then I was like, all right. OK, I'll do it. How long were you gone? It's like three weeks. OK. It's pretty short, but it's long. You know what I mean? It's short, but it's long. It's super intense. Long shooting days. Uh-huh. Oh. 18 hours. I'm not very patient. Are you redoing? And then. Oh, you like the walk-ups, the drones. You would hate it. Yes. But you know, this show, they don't produce you. No one's coming in and talking to you. And that was refreshing because they really let the game play out, and I really liked that a lot. Do they have to knock on the door so loud? Every single time. Yeah. And it becomes a joke. You know, people like start to do. Yeah, it's part of the game. It's a game, you guys. It's a game. What I read, which I would struggle with, is that apparently you can't shower after the challenges before you go in for the roundtable into dinner. Is that true? Well, there's really no time. So. That's terrible. I mean, that's. OK, here's the thing. You cannot be a diva on this show. You can't. Oh, Jeff's out. You cannot. There's no diva. Like, I had to literally take my diva. I don't have much of a diva. I really don't. Little bit comes out from time to time. I had to put her in the corner because, I mean, what you go through on that show is you just have to buck up. If you're going to do the show, you buck up. You redo your hair and makeup after you've literally been sweating and gross in these challenges. These challenges are hard. Yeah. I mean, Gerinda and I should have had blood pressure taken and our oxygen taken after these. Like, it was. Some of those challenges. Hard. And then you have to get cute again. Like, you just did it because you had like a time limit. And they were like, OK, we need you in 20 minutes. And you're like, I'm too vain. I don't want to look gross on camera. So like, if you have to like wash your pits with, you know, do a horse bath, I call it. Yeah. You do it. You just did it. Wow. I'd have to put my diva in the corner. You have to put your diva in the corner. She has a tough time in the corner. She really does. It was hard. And I think people were really kind of impressed with that a little bit with me because they were like, wow, look at Rena. She's just like bucking up. Yeah. I just bucked up. I never complained. I just did it. So I think that was a really good lesson for me. Who complained a lot. Because I would complain a lot. You would complain. Mara. I love Mara. She's so funny. She's like, Datingas, I would like someone to come shoot me in the head with a machine gun. What the fuck are we doing here? What the fuck are we doing? I love her so much. Really? She was really funny. Oh my god. So funny. Datingas, that accent. Like she's a traitor. She's so funny. She'd be doing this. She'd be like, what the fuck are we doing? Why are we doing this? Like she is hilarious. Hilarious. For someone who has never been a traitor fan, is now a traitor super fan. Wait till the other four watch season three and season two now. That's all I'm going to do. Monroe and I are watching it together. We're going back to three and then we're going to go to. I can't wait to see MJ. When you're watching MJ, you are going to. It's so good. It's so good. Did you see? So you saw three. I've seen everything. Come on, of course. You have to watch everything before you go. Also, you can pre-order. You better believe I'm going to talk about it. Lisa Renta's new book, which Annie, you endorse. So good. I endorse. It's amazing. Okay. Thank you, Annie. And it is available February 24th, but pre-order it now. And then they'll just ship it right to your house. Yeah. On the 24th. I mean, imagine that. Imagine that. Just ship it right to your house. Yeah. And then also go to harysfamous.com. You won't regret it. Try all four of his sauces. I want to try the new one. We need to do the gals. I want to do the marinara. Why are we going to gals? We need to go to gals. We need to just. I'm not paying for shipping. But last time. The store down the street. But last time we just bought and they shipped it right to the house. I know. We can. Let's just. Oh, two minutes. Oh, shit. Okay. Clear. I don't know. What is your burning question? Well, it's a lot of house. So I have questions. I don't know. What do you? What? I mean, I don't care. Boring. It's so boring. Who cares? I don't know. What's next for Lisa Renta? Gosh, what is next for Lisa Renta? You just keep reinventing yourself. Oh, how's the podcast? It's gone. Oh, never mind. Sorry. Sorry I asked. I told you, you'd be so good. You're so good on radio. I know, but you know what? I feel like I saw your clips everywhere. I know. We just had time for it. You're married to the job. I'm sorry. We didn't have time for it. You don't. You're married to this job. We had to make a choice. We had to make a choice. And I chose the opposite. I understand. You're doing fine. You just couldn't do it. And plus you're traveling. You're having a great time. We couldn't do it. We had fun, but we couldn't do it. I can't take one day off. No. And that's why we were like, OK, we did it for a year. Bye. Yeah. I'm like that. I get it. I'm acting. I'm doing fashion, baby. I'm doing endorsements. You're doing it. I'm going to just live. She's working on it. I want to live. Thanks for listening. If you want more of this, listen to Jeff Lewis Lodd every weekday on SiriusXM, as well as the Jeff Lewis channel, exclusively on the SiriusXM app. Thank you all so much for being here at our wedding. I can't believe I get to spend the rest of my life with a woman of my dreams. Speaking of dreams, have you ever dreamed of tasting all the colours of the rainbow? Because that is exactly what you get with Skittles. Five bold fruit flavours in every pack. Lemon, orange, lime, strawberry and black currant. They're chewy. They're colourful. They're perfect. Just like my wife. So thank you for coming. And remember to buy Skittles. Shamelessly promote the rainbow. Taste the rainbow.