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Select plan's only restrictions apply, powered by fiber connected to the premises by coaxial cable. Actual speeds, ferry. Monday show. Yep. We back. You know what it is? In that good vintage stone cold merch. Yes, sir. I've been putting the smack down on fools all week, so you're not a stone cold shirt. He's going to war with Flocko. He might be in the Flocko slayer. We don't know. Yeah, man. He's going out to the center right now. Once you start calling me racist, I know it's over, man. So I got that dub. I'm taking that dub. So you're not in that group chat, but he might as well be, actually. Had me. Once we kick Flocko, I'll add. You really want to get him out that group chat? Yeah, and I'm about to, so that's all good. It's just, all right. This is the whole thing is like, his recent crusade last night was basically like, Moose Man is a racist. And everybody should be very deeply upset about Moose Man's racism. The evidence of his racism, very, very weak. And it's slowly becoming like, OK, Flocko's not really on the podcast. He's not here ever. And meanwhile, like he is talking all this shit to flock to ball. He's talking all this shit to Moose. And he's the reason why Moose Man, why Munchie left. So it's kind of slowly becoming like, are you kind of like warming your way out of here? You might have to stick to the fig music group. Everybody. Oh, no. Yeah, the rap daily playlist. He was talking crazy about RPD. Oh, love it. And Flocko is my bro, but he was talking crazy about our podcast. I'm like, we have one episode. He was like, the numbers is trash and I'm like, Flock. But meanwhile, the numbers are better than the podcast that he's on. Yeah, exactly. Somehow, we're going to get about three times their numbers this week. So it's all good. Yeah. I don't know, man. It's it's a weird time to be a Flocko booster. A Flocko Maxer for sure. For numerous of reasons, you know, not just that one. Yeah, there's a couple of things about him right now that are. OK. Serious question. What's that? If it were like 100 percent proven that he copped 17 year old box. What do I do? What do I have to do publicly disavow him in like a selfie? But I know that that isn't true. I know that the YouTube. I know Flocko wouldn't do something like that. So I just can't. OK. But if he did it, he did it by accident. So that complicates things, right? It does complicate. There's no intent. It's kind of like, well, he wasn't aiming to. Yeah, no, he thought he was 18 and two months. No, I just think that I think Flocko is moving smarter than that. I don't think he would let himself get you would think that. But I don't know. I would love to think that. Because even if it's close, it's just like, why even? Chancey like, you know what I'm saying? So I know Flocko. I know his character. So until it's just unequivocal evidence, I can't go with it. I don't think. No, I feel the same way, too. Is like, even OK, I'll admit that even if I knew 100 percent, I'm not going to be the one to bring that to the table. Yeah, I'm going to let the world do the expose. And I'm going to have to just sit back and react to it. No, right. And yeah, I'm not even as much as I hate Flocko or whatever. I would never push some shit that I haven't seen nothing that's super concrete. It's looking bad, but I'm not going to be the guy that jumps out the window just because I dislike you. Because you know, you don't have the inside info like on the DC, baby. No, because I'm not from North Dakota or Darby, Pennsylvania. So I'm not on the ground because he knew about DC. He was just like, no, I got insider info. I know. I was like, incapable of understanding that that it's like, listen, if he's from the approximate same area as this person and he's saying that he has behind the scenes information that makes him believe that it's no good. Like wax like, no, he has his paperwork came back saying that he was charging wherever, but it's like, right, you could know something that was mitigated. That's not on paper. Yeah. And I'm not saying whack is like knew that. And just because it's not on paperwork, he's ignoring it. I think he just isn't privy to the same information as me. And he just doesn't like to be wrong. So and I don't think you would jump out the window unless you exactly. And I don't know. Because I don't know DC Baby Draco, but I just don't think you would jump out the window. And I've said like maybe two or three things when people ask me on podcasts about him and I say, hey, I think he's all bad. You know what I'm saying? I've had pretty good evidence and I don't like do this campaign. Like I don't even want to associate with the dude. You know what I'm saying? I mean, it is weird too, though, because, OK, from a prison perspective, let's say there's a guy in your section in prison and you know for a fact that he are worded your home girl. I don't think that that carries the weight that a single piece of paperwork does, right? You know, because the paperwork is like you can't argue with it. And the actual lived experience, you could have seen him do it. Yeah. But ultimately, like, what is you saying that? Like, what does that do? Because from a prison perspective, it's like, well, you could just be lying. Like, how do we know that you're telling the truth or whatever? Yeah. Yeah. I had a homie that was close to me that caught a pimp in a minor charge and he beat the case. But I have no contact with him since that time, because I try to kind of ask him about it. He kind of tucked his tail was kind of being, you know, avoiding about it. And I'm like, OK, well, that kind of says everything. On the side of the fence, like, fuck that paperwork, you know what you know. Yeah. It's like if you were wrote around with a 16 year old or some shit like that, it's just like I can't hang out with you. Yeah, just can't hang out with you as a man. I feel like that's a NorCal pastime. It's like baseball for us down here. What do you mean? It feels like whenever I hear about somebody pimping a minor, it's like a Northern California thing. Although I have heard about some notable instances down here as well, which really I didn't even know how common that was until the last like year or so, because the more that I learn about the blade and everything, I start to slowly understand that this is something that a lot of people do not have any qualms about. Let me ask you all this. Were you all in like, because I remember this like in junior high and in high school, do you all remember older dudes coming and picking up young chicks? Sure, that happened. It was almost like normalized back then. It was just like it wasn't like mustangs or something like that. I can't be with this nigga. I got a bike. And when I was 12 in 1997, you know, like if you were on that at that time period and you were a podcaster right now and it were to come out, then I guess I could like have some kind of level of understanding just because it really was a different time. The same time I remember Roy Moore was that the politician who they were saying that they had to ban him from the mall because he was harassing underage girls. He got banned from the mall? Yeah, he's trying to like get their number pick them up. And he was a pretty serious politician at a certain point, but still it was like, I think it was in the 70s. Yeah. So it's like, you know, the thing you have to point to is like Jerry Seinfeld. That was public relationship with the 17 year old girl when he had the biggest show on TV. That just is like way different than like 2026. You're doing like sneaker resale Instagram content like with right now, right in front of our face. You can kind of just make a step steam post me to post all these moments that kind of shine light on the darkness of that world. But you just made me feel hella old. You were 12 and 97. Yeah. I graduated in 97. I'm the only kid here. I graduated in 02. And I think that the girl that we're even talking about with the Falco situation, I think they were saying that she was like born in 06. That's my God. That's insane. My kid was born in 05. Crazy. Yeah, that's out of part. But going back to like the the North cow, but I think it just sends up being, you know, the freeways that all connect from Washington down to Southern California. It's all kind of the same culture and North cow might have been running with that. But now it's spreading to all down the coast. I think it's like if you are immoral enough that you want to spend your life making money off of selling women's bodies to random Carl's Jr. employees. Don't try to. Truck drivers. But if you're if you're dedicating your life to that, what are the odds that you're also going to be the kind of guy that's like 17? No, no, no. Absolutely not. That's where I draw the line. You go do something else up until the day that you turn 18. And then. Only then, though. Only then. I don't think there's those kind of guys. The moral compass is fucked up. Yeah, yeah. Roughly. Are you guys experiencing Coachella Fomo? Yes. And I was going to go to actually and I was just like, wait, how many times have you been in the past? I've never been. I've never been. I get like a fear with like really big ass crowds of people like that, like, which is weird because I'm a comedian. I stand in front of people and talk. But like when it's just like everybody just kind of out there, like I wouldn't survive like in a mosh pit. I've been like two times before and had a pretty miserable time both times where it was just kind of like, okay, the live music aspect of it is absolutely horrible. I remember sort of like rushing to go see Louisie Verde at like two or three PM. And, you know, it's so hot that I'm being like evaporated by the sun. And then I walk up to see what this is actually like. And like, keep in mind at this time, I had maybe seen Louisie Verde performing in like a warehouse in like 2014 for like 300 people. And then I show up and it's like the sea of people between. Like I literally can barely see him. And it's not like when you go to a concert in a stadium where they got like big monitors everywhere where you can actually kind of lean on those to like see a little bit more of the content. I was like so far away that it was just like, oh, this is the worst thing. Does Louisie Verde like perform over like a track with his vocals on it? For sure. Yeah. Is this just me? I hate that. I think as hip hop is just like I'm used to. No, like I'm coming out to the shows like I want to see you do this shit live. What artists have you, what rappers have you seen that didn't do that? Kendrick? Woo! Refreshing, wild cherry cola meets smooth cream. The treat you deserve. Pepsi, wild cherry and cream. Treat yourself. With Uber's new women preferences, women riders can request a woman driver whenever they want. Like Amy, who's traveling solo in a city she's never been to before. Or Danielle, who works night shifts at the hospital. Or Kelly and Jana, who were way overdue for a night out. Because sometimes comfort comes from having another woman with you. Request women drivers with women preferences on Uber. Learn more on the Uber app. OK, I feel like Kendrick is one of the main. There's this guy's the guy's who will this Kendrick has amazing birth control. Yeah. And I mean, I feel like even somebody like him, he's got like the in years so they can keep up with it or whatever. I don't know. It's just like I agree that it sucks. It's just that throughout my life, I've seen very few rappers that didn't have a backing track. Yeah, that's kind of like their whole thing when it is that it's like, I don't need that backing track, you know, it's like the very I pride myself on my lyrics on being an MC. It's always those type of rappers. Even that shit the other day with Meek Mill when he performed and he was like, he was just taking words off. Yeah, why did that look so bad? It was awful. It looks terrible. You know what that made me think? Really, when I seen that, I was like, what other songs does Meek really have? Like nobody in Philly gave a shit about him performing. What's the shit with Mariah? Yeah. What other songs does Meek really have? Meek really can do like a real set. He can for sure. That's what I understand when people act like Meek Mill had this really, really successful music career. Like he's still probably doing really well for himself. I'm like on the basis of what? Can Meek even do a versus? He could, I think I guess. There's 20 Meek records that he could perform and niggas would be like, yeah. 20 is crazy. 20 is crazy. I'm giving at least 10 to 12. Maybe like 10. 10 to 12 for sure. 12. OK. Maybe. People with the Coachella thing like, OK, my other notable things about that is like, you have to just be walking around and doing stuff like all day. Like my legs were just like destroyed by the end of it. And it becomes like it just becomes such a clout chasing marathon where there's all these parties and you're working really hard. It's all about who you know and who's going to like get you into this party so that you can be around this one celebrity. And I'm watching it all play out on Instagram stories over the course of the weekend. And to me, it's just like the least fun thing I can imagine. But my wife is going next weekend because she's such a big Justin Bieber fan that she just actually feels the need to do this. And like, I don't know. We kind of end up a little bit of an argument where I said that Coachella was the least cool thing on earth. And she objected to that and my response. But but then like when I'm looking through Instagram, I'm kind of like, well, this is clearly the place where every hot chick that I know is over the course of this weekend. So me saying that it's like deeply uncool, it does kind of feel like, OK, like what leg do I have to stand on? Yeah, that's how Adam touched on you. You know, from my perspective, things that I find cool and enjoyable are usually like smaller. Like for me personally, like I would rather go to a fucking single cult show in a warehouse with 300 people, then go to Coachella and have to like, you know, try to breathe the same air as Kylie Jenner. But I also kind of have to acknowledge that I don't I don't necessarily like apply that same logic to everything. Right. Yeah, I just I think it's like kind of the same as like Coachella's like the Taylor Swift of festivals, you know, it's like, you know, great, you know, you'll probably have a good time if you're into that type of stuff. But if somebody has a problem in saying it's not cool, I'm not going to have the biggest issue with that. It's like, OK, I get it, you know, it's kind of like that's the internet hip hop guy in you saying it's so uncool and then like all the normy just girls that try to get their Instagram fits off and shit like that. That's like the Mecca to them, you know, it's like it's time to get these Coachella fits off. Are there any other cool hip hop festivals, though? Outside of Coachella that happened rolling. I have like a few one off here and made in America. So those are the top two rolling out in Coachella. Those are the I don't even know if it's fair to put in the same category. Rolling out is like three or four times a year or maybe more. And then Coachella is just this like one off thing that like, you know, obviously also it's like every different type of artist is barely any rappers on the bill. It used to be a lot more. Now it's like pretty light. And the show's kind of the status of hip hop, I would say. No, definitely. Yeah. But J. Biebs is the only one that was kind of feeling formal about him pulling up the YouTube videos. I was like, that's kind of hard. I'm not going to lie. That's kind of hard. I just don't really like have any desire to like see it in real life. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not a big guy. I'm not tripping that I missed it. Yeah. If I'm standing like 50,000 people back and I'm looking at this big screen like, wow, he's surfing YouTube. Like that's dope. But it's like, that's definitely not my thing. And I'm all sweaty and dirty because I've been camping and shit. I would much rather. I'm not a camping. Yeah. Oh, that's crazy. And then go back to the AC. Camping is crazy. And that's part of it too, is that you need to get an Airbnb that's going to be like 20 grand for a weekend or whatever. And this is one thing. All right. So my boy, Mike Maylac, I think this was on his close friend. So I'm going to be kind of vague. But like when he goes out there and he's like a white boy, podcaster, dude, I don't know if you know who he is, but he's like, he's like Logan Paul's co-host on his podcast. So he's very, very cool, but not at all in this sort of world. I mean, he's like reasonably cool. Hip hop perspective, I guess, just because everybody's hip hop. Hibbalana Rhodes. But yeah, he's a fucking Hibbalana Rhodes. Yeah. And but he's like, clearly, like him and his buddies have like a big ass Airbnb. And at the Airbnb, they have like 10 of the hottest models that you've ever seen in your entire life. And that's that's part of it because these models are a, going to just make you look cool to everybody else, but B, allow you to travel freely and go to different parties and stuff that you might not necessarily be able to get into without these girls. And like just the idea of playing that game just makes my fucking stomach churn of just thinking about just clout chasing that much over the course of a whole weekend. Like maybe one night I could kind of get into it, but the idea of like doing that and then having to wake up the next morning and do that again. Again. Do you think that's an age thing though? Because I think Adam 10 years ago was would be up for the fucking game. Yeah. But 2017 Adam was also kind of disgusted by the whole experience too, you know, but like that also was doing a lot of coke and shit when I went that one time, which is really unsustainable. Yeah. To keep it going. They probably overpricing everything up there. I'm sure. Oh, it's all right. Is that $150 caviar burger? Well, once you sign up, it's like, you know what you're getting into. You're not going to start counting pennies once you're at Coachella. It's like you're full. It's like maybe that's the old nigga in me. I'm just like, I'm not excited for that to go around be around 50, 60,000 people and spend an exorbitant amount of money. And that's my logic of why I didn't go. But then when I'm looking at my feed and every hot chick I know, as well as a million other hot chicks that Instagram has decided to serve up to me because they know that I'm liable to feel FOMO is kind of like, why didn't I go? Why am I not there when I could potentially taking a picture with this girl who has three million followers? Wow. I went all the way up. Good use of my time. Yeah, I've seen all the people with their elaborate camping. They got showers. They're building by hand. I'm like, man, you guys really love this thing. It's kind of the same as like the EDM EDC type of festival. It's like, I could just never fathom like the. Okay. Those campsites. I was making fun of them and then my wife was like, well, yeah, but it's the it's the cheapest way for you to stay there. And when I looked it up, it actually ends up being like less than a thousand dollars for your campsite plot. And that's if you have like an electricity being run to it. And you might have three, four people sleeping in this one campsite. So it actually ends up being really, really affordable as opposed to getting an Airbnb because it's so competitive, you could easily end up spending 20 grand on that shit. And what I learned is like, these are like lifelong Coachella goers. So they're building up this stock of Coachella like things. So they just flip it out. You know what I'm saying? They're just packed with everything they need. I know a girl who went all the way there because there's some guy who said he was going to get her a bracelet so she could get in the bracelets that you used to get in. And like all her friends got in and she didn't get in and she drove to Palm Springs. She's at the festival grounds and she couldn't get it. I'm just like, oh, that's kind of a hit. Blanco hang out with Blanco. So I think it was done. Could you imagine driving all the way out there? You can't get in. I mean, but you're also done for driving all the way out there. You got to get back to the car. You got to get back to the car. But the thing about all her friends got in and she's done this multiple years in a row through the same guy. There's like people out there making insane amounts of money through just like finesse and people through the door. You think she wasn't hot enough? You think that's why everybody... She has to feel like the ugly girl. Yeah, for sure. No matter what happened, no matter what the reasoning is, she's cutting it for like the ugly girl. Like why everyone butch you. You had to do something. Your fit wasn't right. You wasn't looking fly enough. The makeup wasn't popping. It was something. And that's a long ride, huh? That's a long... To think about your mistakes for sure. You was in the mirror like... No, but the thing is too is that you got like a hotel probably or whatever. So you got to like post up in your hotel and get sat. You still got the finances cooked. Oh yeah. Yeah. You didn't see Sabrina. You didn't see Bieber. You're on your phone watching everybody. And then you got to watch it on the app. And your friends didn't stand in solidarity with you. They were like, well, all right, girl. We're going to have a trip. How do you feel about that? You guys show up there. They say, though, boy, Adam, the homies could get in. Y'all can't get in. The homies walk in. You feel some type of way about the homies? Or are you like... Yeah, we came here together. We leave together. Don't leave me out here. Stand out here. I think I would probably try to like manage your expectations before we even got there. Because you know everybody. We're leaving you behind. Don't worry. We have to is what he said. I mean, you can come, but they don't guarantee. That's one thing that really kind of turns me off to doing that type of shit in general. Because I've done that many times where I like show up at something with like 10 or 15 people and they're kind of like, oh, everybody can't get in. And me being like an actual normal person that doesn't enjoy these sorts of exchanges, I'm just kind of like, okay, I'm just not going to do this anymore. I'm just going to roll up with like a much more manageable crew. Has that happened to you before when you woke up? And everybody's like, all right, you got 15. For sure. And was it the awkward conversation with the people that couldn't get in or they just kind of took it on chain? I mean, I'm just like not the kind of person that rolls around with 20 fucking people anyway. It's like an ancient memory for a while. That is like my biggest fear is like, I have homies who kind of hit me to like, yo, pull up to this show and I can tell that they're going to get to the door and be like, you know me, let me in. And I'm just like, I'm not that guy. I just can't be the guy. Just like, come on, I'm on no jumper. Evan, you see me? Like, let me in. You know me? Yeah, it's like, I can't do it. Okay, that's the problem for me is that if it's like a hip hop related thing, then chances are, like I'm too used to being treated very, very well at like most things I go to. But then Coachella, they don't give a fuck. And it's not really like a hip hop thing. So it's like, I'm going there and I have to deal with like the annoyingness of being me and that people are going to be asking me for photos and whatever. But then I'm not going to be like taking care of like giving that sort of a none of the perks and all the bad parts. Yeah. It's worn by people. I mean, that's a big part of why it doesn't sound that attractive. No, yeah. Nobody would go up there and deal with that bullshit. What do you mean I can't get in? Fuck, that's a terrible feeling. Definitely. All right. So I will have to admit that I'm wrong to a certain degree because we all decided to listen to the Snoop album. That's one thing that we really want to do. This podcast is focused on like new music that's out and everything. And as I was listening to this new Snoop album, I was thinking about the fact that I have never listened to an album, a full album from a rapper this old before in my entire life. How is he 54? He's 54. 54. So he's like Joe Rogan status. I think Rogan is 55 maybe. Right. But I was expecting to absolutely hate this album. Now I say that with all due respect to Snoop. Snoop was like my first rapper that I loved in like 92 or whatever that was. But I actually ended up being very pleasantly surprised. I felt like he infused elements of R&B and funk and just various other types of music. I think that like the main thing that I hate about listening to a rapper in their fifties is the idea of, or not that I've ever done that before, but they're forties or even late thirties or whatever. Older rappers. You're sort of just hearing them rehash the same shit over and over and over. And the shit that made you cool when you're in your 20s, whether it's like, you know, you're smoking weed or you're in a gang, you shot somebody or whatever. It's like, it's just so much less interesting or impressive when you're on like album number 10, as opposed to your debut. I feel like on this album, he actually like really managed to, A, I believe that you used, you know, songwriters and like really came upon like a lot of songs that like stand out to me as like you don't necessarily have to be a Snoop fan to appreciate this. But I also think he embraced a little bit of the like maestro role where you have a song like the Peezy song where he's doing almost nothing. Sonically, he's really like the DJ drama of this song. He's like hosting this song. It's more like, hey, check out this dude Peezy that if you're an old head Snoop fan that you might not know about, but he's dope as fuck and I'm Snoop and I'm going to kind of holler a little bit on this thing, but it's not really essential to the song. So I was impressed. I feel like this album to me represented a way in which Snoop could be relevant as an actual rapper going forward in his career. I admittedly, I haven't really followed most of his other recent albums, but I ended up enjoying it. Although, will I listen to it again? I mean, probably not, but I'm definitely going to listen to it again. I just felt like he was just, Snoop is never not going to be cool. Like he's just the quitter sense was just like, he's been cool since I was like in seventh grade. And it's just like, even from the first song, like with Pharrell, it's just like, and I think one thing that really helps Snoop a lot is he picks beats really well. So like his production was just, and he sounded hungry. Like I was just like, this feels like old Snoop. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like he felt like really re-invigorated when he really doesn't have like motivation. Like the money's not going to motivate him. You could just tell he loves that shit. And I was, I was fucking with like toward the end, there was like, I was like, maybe there was three or four records that I was just like, man, but like overall, I get the whole like project, like an eight out of 10. Like I fucked with it heavy. Yeah, I was kind of going into it like, the old heads got me listening to this bullshit. You know what I'm saying? But it definitely was pleasantly surprising. Like Adam said, kind of that G-Funk R&B, I love the Snoop singing. Like, yeah, I think that's kind of like his angle is kind of the Snoop vibe in West Coast, G-Funk smooth shit. Anytime he was really rapping, that was the worst part of the album. Like when he was really trying to rap, the songs where it's like, you know, hard, and it's supposed to be a heartbeat and, you know, him giving bars, the bars were kind of corny and shit like that. You know, it was definitely giving old head, trying to get his shit off. I'm talking about OG to BG. I got a look of that. Slide in. I think OG to BG was the one that sort of stood out to me. I was like, oh, okay, this is like more of him going back to like gangster tropes that it felt a little bit less. The Trinidad James song, horrible. I heard that coming from a lot of people. Who, who know each other. That's what I said. Who told him it was a good idea to get a Trinidad James feature. The bread under the bed track, that was bad corny to me, I'm saying, but I still had like, I think it was 13, yeah, 13 tracks. I liked like probably seven, eight of them. So that's a majority of the album I liked, but anytime he was actually like, you know, trying to, you know, really wrap his ass off on like a hard beat. It was too unctual and a little corny and shit. I feel like I'm going to slid off. Like he had that old school beat. I feel like he was in that old school, Snoop bag. And I feel like he was, he was like, to be a 50 or 54 year old millionaire, like, you know what I'm saying? Like in one of the most recognizable people in the world, I felt like it was still a very relatable album. Like I felt like he was, I felt like it was old vintage Snoop. Yeah. I think I just would rather hear him sing more than I'd hear him rap. Like seriously, I don't want to, I don't want to snoop bars in 20, 25 years. I hope I'm doing my math wrong, but okay. This, this tweet says that the Snoop album did 300,000 streams over the course of its first. That's what I saw too. Day, wasn't it? Or the weekend. Oh, open. This is just opening day. Opening day for this weekend. We're not really like close to having like a full week. No, yeah. Yeah. Right. We could talk about, but I asked Google how much does 300,000 streams equal to an equivalent album sales? And it basically says like the equivalent of like 200 albums. That's decent for Snoop at this point. Oh, no. I'm just talking about what other people be doing here. Y'all just seen a glazing in the front. I'm just saying like what are people doing like as far as like numbers on a weekly basis? That's decent. You were, you were prepared to say that is decent. Don't worry. You sell the 200 records out the truck. No, boy. It's the equivalent of selling one album. That's decent for Snoop. Yo, don't worry. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I've seen that wrong. 200. I thought it was 200K. I thought it was 200K. Oh, shit. That's what I mean. He was as big as, you know, Oh my bad. 200 to, oh, shit. I feel there's a possibility that I'm not doing the math right, but I doubt it. Actually, I don't know. That can't be right. Those might have been super early numbers. You know, the numbers don't catch up right away. So 200 to 400. Check them out and see. Bro, I thought it was K behind it. It's not easy to be a uncrapper. I'm telling you. What's it talking about? And look, already this doesn't appear. 61,000. I mean, as we look through the sales, I mean, most of the songs do have like 40K under 50, pretty much. Please. And then you have like stop counting my pockets with a music video that's 700K. And slid off the one I was just talking about. Slid off with like 800K. So, but those, those realistically were probably out prior to this album's release. Yeah. At least let me ask you all this. I think that begs a different question. Like since we're since hip hop is still so relatively young, do we think that we're going to allow our hip hop superstars to go into their 50s and 60s and still be making relevant new music? I mean, I don't think almost any other genre does. So it would be pretty unlikely that hip hop would given the hip hop is so preoccupied with youth and it's really like. Because country singers can get oldest rock singers. I think of the misconception is. I think that's a misconception. Yeah. I think the misconception is like, oh, well, they just love them yet because all they do is perform their old songs. Rappers tend to put out new albums. Snoop will always be able to tour and generate his album. But the idea that like, because even in like country, like who's like an older artist that's like really putting out really popular music past 40? Like if you if your career even survives into your 40s, that's amazing. Yeah. Because even new country is like the Morgan Walens. They're like younger dudes. You know, it's not like Tim McGraw's anymore where he was like 50 pop in. You know, it's so be safe to say that music is really like some young shit. So like once you get to a certain age, we don't really want to hear nothing past. Well, hip hop. Yes. But also everyone kind of feels like those old heads were making a lot better music than the people making music nowadays too. So that's a difference. Well, I think it's done. You can't argue with the fact that like, you know, Snoop's music from earlier in his career is probably a lot better. No, for sure. Would y'all be here for like a new Jay-Z album? Because I'm hearing that he might be dropping some shit soon. Yeah, but Jay-Z is different than everybody else because Jay-Z drops so infrequently that when he does drop, he's always like built up such like a an amount of anticipation that it gets an appropriate amount of attention. But that being said, like Jay-Z when he drops albums in modern times, they don't actually sell that well. Like, you know, when he like even like, I mean, we can look it up too. But like this NBA playoffs with Fanduul, you're not just watching the playoffs. You're a part of them. In recent times, like I remember like everybody was glazing that Jay-Z and Beyonce shit, like it was doing so good and the numbers were actually really not. Like him and Jay-Lek, didn't they drop that shit? Yeah, they did a project together, which to me probably stands out as like one of the biggest missteps of Jay-Z's career. He just loves Jay-Lek a lot. That's a lot of industry people that love. And I love Jay-Lek, but I know that he's not gonna, I do. I mean, not since probably like 2008, but he was like my favorite rapper in 2008 for sure. In 2008, there were like two songs I was really into and all these years later, I feel like I have not heard enough. He seems like the biggest waste of potential though. Like he was supposed to be the guy like everybody like kind of really fucks with him, but it's like tweaker. It never comes. And he's a drunk. That's what everybody says. A tweaker at a drunk. Well, I'm just saying not like a literal tweaker, but he's just like, you know, he like behaves in a way that makes people not want to support him, you know. Yeah, like when he was tweaking out the other day at his concert. At the concert going to the crowd. I'm just wondering how that's amazing. One moment's like that. Right. But I mean, when you saw like the full clip, he was being like pretty disrespected by the audience. Yeah, but also it's like you are old as fuck now and this is LA and like this is really. Nobody would hear this shit. And they wanted to hear it. They exhibit. See the beat is one of the best parts. That's one of the best. Stop giving us the acapella. We want the beat. What the fuck are you talking about? That's a bad criticism. Yeah, for real. That's one of the best beats. I mean, that's his best beat. Play the beat, man. Yeah, that beat is a classic. Facts. No, I mean, I remember that era. I wanted to like, he just seemed like he was going to be the biggest rapper in the world and just fucked off and let it go. Did Snoop's numbers say 33 million monthly and then 33 million monthly? Obviously, the old catalog is scary in that. But that just shows how crazy that is that his old catalog is so popular and his new album still aren't even getting people like, well, I love I'll be slapping old Snoop on the daily. Let me check out this new Snoop. Just see what's up. I am praying that that number is not accurate that he did 200 to 20. I mean, we just saw on Spotify that it's like not that different. But that being said, like if he did 200 album equivalent sales on his first day, then that probably means that it could be. But also that's just Spotify. So you got to like, basically double it to take into account Apple music. And then you got to say there's all these other days out of the week. So it might be safe to say that he did, you know, maybe like a thousand equivalent album sales, which basically puts them in the territory of like Lefty Gunplay, which is really not great. Definitely not great. But also this is what artists album sales look like when they don't actually invest in the rollout. And the reason why they don't invest in the rollout anymore is because it's not profitable to do so. Like, you know, I didn't snoop, they do, you did a bunch of interviews, but he's not doing Bill Ward's and he's not like dumping money into streaming services. Yeah, he's doing viral way. Yeah, actually, he did viral way and be nice. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like we don't see a lot of like, what was the last great rollout to where somebody did a great rollout and then I'm like, yeah, I fuck with Clips. But also it's like, what the fuck is wrong with hip hop that we are so into praising people's rollouts at this time? Because that was such a big part of the conversation about Clips was like, oh, it was such a dope rollout. And it's like, what are we all just like industry insiders who feel like this is what that's what the music is to roll out. It's just how you presented to us. Yeah, it's the artsy fartsy side of hip hop, like the Grammy. We love these guys because they're real lyricists. They make real hip hop. And you know, they got this good. Rollout. That's what's wrong with the new guys. They don't do the rollout good anymore. You gotta have a rollout. That's kind of their whole thing. I mean, yeah, but I don't know. It's just like, I feel like Snoop is probably somebody at this point in his career who just wants to put out music because it's fun to make music and he literally spends all his time hanging out in the studio. Yeah. Right. And his perspective is like, listen, I'll just put it out and it is what it is. And like, if it sells, it sells and if it doesn't, whatever. But I think that's him like trying to be bigger than the culture that we currently live in, in which we obsess over people's album sales and we kind of use that to judge what level they're at in their career, which, you know, it's just, it's such a far way away from the world that we occupied in 2006, where Lil Wayne could just spray and pray, just drop mixtapes and they would just go crazy and people would listen to them all the time. Now artists have to pay clippers. They have to dump money into Spotify to pump their shit out. Hanging out with streamers. Russell has to spend $300,000 a month on Facebook ads, which he actually admitted to, which is the craziest shit ever and really lets you see how astroturf that dude's career is and kind of explains how he could have big numbers on certain platforms without actually having like anything. Can artists even organically drop like a record that just organically picks up anymore? Or does it have to be manufactured by the machine? Not unless it's like God tier song. Yeah, and it goes like, it has 100 million plays on TikTok and then they get blown up, but then they're just going to sign and then the label is going to put the money behind it. But when you think about all these artists that were so huge 20 years ago, and then you think about how much smaller artists are now, but then also how artists have to spend so much money on promotion just to seem like they have any semblance of popularity, it really just emphasizes the fact that hip hop is a tiny force as opposed to where it was at 20 years ago. Or at least like the, you know, because I think that there's still probably more people who identify themselves as hip hop fans, but to actually go and listen to new music has become a sort of archaic pursuit as opposed to where the world used to be. So like Normie Dow, you know, where like the horror is all gone, where it's like nobody's rushing to anything. Right, I'll get around to it. I feel like it's the same thing that built it was the same thing that killed it. And what I mean by that is like back in the day when the internet kind of came out, you can still find people like on SoundCloud or different, you can find those records, but now it's become so watered down. It's like you got to like prove yourself on like massive amounts of numbers or you ain't shit. You know what I'm saying? Like I don't, I don't feel like I can ever go on the internet now and just find a new song. Yeah, I think that's a good point where like you could be big on SoundCloud and now it's like you got to upload all your shit to Spotify and Apple music. You're never going to be in the top five, but you might have been on the top five of the SoundCloud, you know, Rankins and shit. All that you do if you want to spend money to promote your shit is you're just dumping money into different social platforms. You're dumping money into Facebook ads, you're dumping money into the, I forget what it's called, the Spotify algorithmic boosting program or whatever. It's like all the other things that used to work just don't really move the needle. And then that shit doesn't really move the needle either. Exactly, yeah. Like what, well Russell's spending $300,000 a month on Facebook ads. Like what is the return on that? I know like some tiny percentage of those people are going to buy merchandise or whatever, like stream your content, but it's such a small percentage that from my, and that's why you see artists who seem big. And then at one point they separate from the label or the label loses interest and then they seem like they had this insanely abrupt fall off. And it's like, no, that's that's what they're, that's what their shit looks like when they had the machine propping them up. And then this is what they look like in the real world. Yeah. When, when, when Larussell pays that 300K, if that's me, man, my fans better let me say that Jeffrey Epstein was having a phone spending 300K Facebook ads 30,000 a day. Yeah. Yeah. That clip of Larussell saying that I just blew my fucking mind. Yeah, that's crazy. I feel like that might have done some irreparable damage to him. There's already been so much. Because he's already getting hit with an industry plan that's like, oh, you're your own in industry, planting you into the industry. Like that's pretty crazy. I think we're all kind of surprised that Larussell has been gone off social media for like damn near a month at this point. And I think he was right to realize that he needed that separation, but I do think that he is like formally transcended being a rapper and has entered into locale territory. I don't think that there is a song that he could make, especially since his music sucks, that would really like go past where his image is now, like where everybody is just mining Larussell content. Like even that clip that I saw of him saying, oh, I spent 300,000 on Facebook ads this month. It's like, clearly somebody watched that podcast that came out like a month ago. They went through it and they looked for things that would go viral on social media and they found that clip and said, oh, this is great. And the thing with Larussell is if you've ever seen him speak for any like significant chunk of time, it's like he is a limitless fountain. I watched actually his Bulaikov interview and I think that, and this is like on the heels of his gigantic controversy. And I think it maybe did like 2000 views. It was like astonishingly bad. And this is the Russell shit never does good. Like every interview I've ever looked at from him does incredible. The only thing that does good is his content on his pages. But that's just gotta suck to build that thing for so long independently. You finally latch on to some major shit and then your shit just goes to shit. But he never actually built anything. Yeah, he's kind of just paid not campaigns. Those backyard things were pretty dope. Like when he was having those concerts. 200 random people from the neighborhood that were willing to stand in the back yard. And Vallejo, I agree. Maybe he paid it to see like it was bigger than it was. But I was just like, sure. That's everything with him. But that's every rapper in general, but he's the most extreme example of it. And then meanwhile, all in the way, he has never made a song that anyone gives a fuck about. Besides, that's the fucked up part. Like when I think about somebody was like, I'll give you a million dollars right now. Tell me your best LaRussel song. I'll be like, yeah. I was thinking of doing a 24 hour stream where I forced myself to listen to LaRussel the entire time. But the fans actually like when I did a poll about it, they were like, no, absolutely. We will not listen to this because none of us want to hear that motherfucker at all ever. I think it's good though that he's taking a break, especially since like with the 300k a month thing, I think that's him just being caught up in the rat race of social media and him just being on his phone, checking the numbers every two seconds. So I think him kind of having that reset, maybe we'll kind of refocus him that, and he'll stop saying such stupid shit because he is early on in his locale career, where he'll be able to pivot if he does pivot. If he doesn't, then it's all bad. Do you guys feel like he has like a cult following? Like, no. No. He made a scene like that because of the backyard shows and all that, but he's not going anywhere else other than the Bay Area in America and selling out. When the first interview that he does with Bulekhev after his massive cancellation from the L'Olepsine thing, and then it does 2000 views, that is clear cut proof. There is no cult. Barely a following because that is just like, right? You see that and it's like, oh, nobody gives a fuck about you. And that's got to be a fucked up feeling because you at least want to feel like if you jump out the windows or shit like that, that you're going to at least be elevated. But then the dude, hey, come back to 2K. Yeah, because I'll give you an example is that when the fucking Jason Love, my wife thing, was first huge. I went on Bradley Martin's podcast and I think that it did like 700K or some shit like that, which it definitely would not have done that if it wasn't for the fact that I was like, this is my first interview after a giant controversy, right? So it's a big bump. Like maybe it would do 100K normally. If I was going Bradley Martin's podcast right now, I'd better do 100K and that should did 700K. And that makes sense. 7X because you're going through a big controversy. People are full of surprises, especially when you travel together. Thankfully, Verbo is not. When you book a Verbo, you get Verbo care and 24 seven life support. So your house doesn't surprise you like your friends might. If something's not as described or doesn't work, Verbo is there. Real people, real support, any time. Book today on the Verbo app. If you know, you Verbo. Terms apply, see verbo.com slash trust for details. You did 2000. Even less. Maybe less. Like maybe a lot of your fans really have like tuned out. I think that's what it was. It's like, most of the base was casual and when you're casual to somebody and they start showing saying crazy shit, you're like, Oh yeah, never mind. Like I had a wrong impression about it. My mind about it is that it's not even like you said crazy shit so much. It was just gay and corny. It was just like, it was just lame. But we didn't think you were gay and corny. We thought you were kind of cool and like for the people and independent grinding Bay Area, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, but you weren't pretty too, but Ricky was in the fucking no jumper group chat. Trying to say that we were tripping for going so hard on the Russell. And this is before this. This is like right when the rock, not Rocky, little wing controversy, rock nation signing all that. Right. So this was like around that time period when that was going nuts. And basically me and lush and everybody were just tearing them apart. They were talking about how wacky was. And Ricky was like, yo, y'all need to like get it back more. You need to give him more of a chance. He had to get it back. I love Ricky so much. It's like, I appreciate that Ricky was saying that, but it also stands up to me that Ricky would not try to make that argument now. No, yeah. He would not try to convince us that LaRusso is actually all right, because the damage has been done. And it's kind of like, what could he do to undo all the bad that he's done to his career? He's not Kanye. He can't drop an album that will make everybody remember how great he was, because he never had a moment of greatness in his career, aside from people sort of looking and saying, well, it seems like he's building a big movement. It seems like he's quite popular. Exactly. His music is not for me, but it seems like he's really building something great. Those people are long gone. And I think his lack of a catalog came to fuck him in the end, because if he would have had a great catalog, then people probably still would have rolled from him a little bit more. The entirety of his career was built on short-form content on social media. And yeah, and I remember like... It was also his undoing. Back in the day, like it was probably two years ago, Trevor said something about it. Trevor Potter said, he's an Instagram rapper. He got the most amount of hate I've ever seen him get in his life. Trevor said that a couple years ago? Yeah, a couple years ago. And I think it was undeniable. That's so undeniable. Yeah, but he got like dog-climbing. Trevor should have got hate for saying something that was so obvious that it didn't need to be said based on that. Yeah, no, he got a bunch of hate. He should have got a medal for that though, because now we see that he was absolutely correct, because I think we love Larusso for what we thought he stood for. Once he started showing signs that, no, you're actually not standing, you're kind of arrogant. Actually, you're not this humble dude from the Bay. And you're not making good enough music to be Kanye, you know, either. And then your explanation doesn't even make sense. Like, you know what I'm saying? You've been riding this independent shit this whole time, and then you're just like, no, you've got people debate in heaven sent, the meaning of heaven sent now. But I think what people miss is that him signing to Rognation was acceptance that this career that he's pretending to be building is not going to be able to happen on its own. He actually needs major backing in order to make this thing turn into anything. And then I think like, you know, once Jay-Z, like imagine how Jay-Z feels. Stupid. He spent all these years building the stellar career and he's signed so many successful artists. He has to look at Larusso as like the biggest L that he's ever invested in. Over and under that Larusso has a verse or two on the new Jay-Z album. Fuck no. Not a chance. You don't think that'd be the last ditch effort. Jay-Z was like, this isn't himself from a minimum. Jay-Z didn't even hop on the Clips album. And he like, he considered it. He said that in the interview that he thought about it and didn't worry about it or whatever. But like, bro, like that, like, I mean Jay-Z don't fuck around. Like, like look at all of his recent albums. He never does like pity verses for people or pity verses in general or so out of Vogue and hip hop at this point. Yeah, when they do much, but I'm just wondering if that's one of the tactics you might pull out the bag last ditch effort. He should say something about Larusso though. He should say like something. I don't know what you can say without him making it worse. You gotta say something. Like Jay-Z even agrees with this. He should be out here getting cooked. Say something, ho. He's gotta rhyme hustle and Larusso. For sure. Like Nipsey Hussle and Larusso. No, yeah. Gotta rhyme those things. For sure. Anyway, Larusso sucks. And I was kind of like having his back for a while there. But now I'm just like, yo, this guy just seemed like. I never had his back, but I'll stay in quiet with my criticisms because he's, you know, doing stuff good for his community. I see the little kids being inspired. So I'm like, I'm not going to be the guy. And he seems like such a positive guy. So you don't want to like bring hate to a positive guy. But I think he misplayed this. Now he doesn't seem positive. Yeah, not so positive anymore. He's annoying. All right. So basically, one of the more controversial podcasts in hip hop over the course of the past couple of months has been the Ebro, Laura and Rosenberg show. Here we go. Now, one thing about what I hate about hip hop and hip hop media is the fact that again, everybody is just so invested in judging content based on the views and, you know, viral clips. So obviously the Ebro, Laura Rosenberg show is doing quite terribly by both of those metrics because the views are absolutely disgusting on YouTube. Pismal. And then on top of that, like they're routinely getting cooked by the no jumper news streams, which really. Insane. Kind of says a lot. No jumper news. Now I wouldn't think anybody would say it was like, you know, a top tier podcast, but it's definitely cooking them on a daily basis. 20 year vets. And as far as their viral clips, they've been, you know, entirely negative and you could blame that on the the Dracus sphere, you know, using those clips to make to paint them as failures and everything like that. But I wanted us to actually watch a couple episodes of this podcast so that we could have actual legitimate conversation about what they're trying to do over there. So last night we both watched the two most recent episodes of the Laura, the Ebro, Laura Rosenberg show. And I'm going to assume that you guys enjoyed them approximately as much as I did, which is not a not a ton. At least it was a tough watch for me because like I'm a Ebro fan because I'm a Sacramento. You know, he used to DJ back in Sacramento. Yeah, we don't claim Ebro though. We don't claim Ebro. But he used to be on 102.5 and 103.5. So I like he shaped a lot of like how I looked at hip hop, but watching that shit, it felt so old. It made me feel older watching it. I was just like, and I know that the first episode was like the family matters type stuff. And I mean, they had like clips of them feeding their children oranges and shit. I'm like, what the entire fuck about what? I ain't never seen nothing like that. That to me is like, what do you think that your fan base? I'm a dad. I love my kid and I would love to just come on the podcast and say, look at this cute video. Well, my kid just did. He picked up a book off the ground. This is hilarious. But like, like what is it in your head that makes you think that the audience, the home video. Oh, fuck about that. And they were like 46 minutes into it where they talked about nothing but like changing diapers. I was just like, who is their demo here? There was so much less substance than I was expecting there to be. Because normally when the clips go viral, it's them talking about some relatively meaty topics. But like the amount of content that was just so unbelievably boring from the two episodes. And I listen, this is my thing is that Danny from the stop is a pretty good friend of mine. And he's somebody that I look at as a bit of an expert when it comes to podcasts. And he told me that he feels strongly that this is like the best podcast or one of the best podcasts out there. Take his credentials away. Please, right now. ASAP. Today. And I've never been a Danny from the stop band. And this absolutely solidifies that. It's shit but like warm milk. It just makes you sleepy. I don't know what meth Danny from the stop has been smoking the asses. Right. I'm not working right, but there's no chance. And you know what I feel like watching them, they just feel it feels like if I wrote a comedic sketch about like an out of touch podcast, like that's what it would be. And they feel to me like the person that probably owned the last blockbuster. Yeah. Because I felt like they shitted on the YouTube era. They acted like it was beneath them for so many years, not thinking, why don't you just adapt to what's happening? And now they just look so lost and bumbling. And it's just, it was. I don't know what happens on hard watch. Because I remember watching their interviews on YouTube in like 2014, you know, around there. It's like they were pivoted into, you know, that's when the Uzi moment happened, all that type of stuff. So it's like, they had their run, but yeah, they're kind of just, they come off as a little bitter. And I think that's why people weren't messing with them. And then. But you know, it stood out to me too, is that like, it felt like this is me actually watching a podcast from a bunch of like corporate woke people, which I just don't ever do. So when they're sort of like just ranting against Israel. And I'm like, no, I wanted to get into that too. Okay, this is like what you feel like you have to do if you want to be in the cool guy club. And like, I just like, and then there was other things that really stood out to me too. Like the sort of like anti man type stuff, like when they're talking about how stupid boys are and how it's so much better to have a daughter because they're so advanced and shit. And it's like, I don't listen to any content creators who take on this sort of like all reductionist women all the time mentality. And even like Laura, who as I'm watching it, because I don't think I've ever seen her ever. I've never watched anything from her before, besides maybe some clips here and there or whatever. But like, she did the thing that you would think that somebody with this many years in the game wouldn't do, which is like, Ibrahim Rosenberger having the conversation about how men are fixers when it comes to problems in relationships. And this is like such a tired conversation. That it feels like it shouldn't even have to happen where, you know, me and my wife have argued about this a million times where she'll sit there and she'll be ranting about how bad things are in some specific aspect of her life. And I'll sit there and start saying, well, maybe you should try this, maybe she do that. And she gets pissed because she's like, I just want somebody to listen to me. I don't want somebody to try to fix the problem right now. I just want to live with this or whatever. And so Ibrahim Rosenberg are having that conversation, which again, is not a conversation that anybody really already has on a podcast in 2026. And she said the thing that is like the stereotype of why women suck at podcasting and thinking, which is that she said, I mean, I mean, seriously, because she goes, well, I don't like how you guys generalize like men are just one way and women are just one other way. And it's like, what are you talking about? The conversation is about generalities when it comes to men and women because men and women are different. It's like the thing where if you tell a woman, and I'm stereotyping, but if you tell a woman like, hey, you know, 90% of this sort of person does this thing, and they'll say, well, I know somebody who does that. Like if you say, trans people commit suicide at a higher rate, right? And then she'll say, well, I know a bunch of trans people and none of them have committed suicide. They're all 100 years old. Okay, wow, that you're really just debunked my whole fucking argument here. But she did that. And they didn't even really have like the oomph to like push back on it. Because it's like, you know, if a person is willing to say something so stupid on a podcast, you need somebody sitting there who's going to be willing to actually check them. Yeah. The other thing that she said that really pissed me off is like, they're kind of talking about, you know, Islam's reputation for being a genocidal death cult, which obviously that's how I feel as well. And then she says, well, look at the priests. Look at the priests. The priests were on molesting children. And it's like, okay, that is fair that the Catholic church did have a real serious problem for a period of time with the priests molesting children. But that doesn't change the fact that if you like, whole Palestinians, like 90% of them will tell you that they feel like Jews need to be wiped off the face of the earth. Like this is not, you can't compare one problem that admittedly is absolutely disgusting and an institutional problem. And clearly, there's something deeply wrong with the Catholic church that this was allowed to go on for so long. But you can't compare that to actually commonly held belief by like a huge percentage of the adherents to this religion. Like terrorists. Obviously America's version of Islam is a lot more toothless than the rest of the world. But like to act like Israel doesn't have a reason to be concerned about their neighbors is just like mind blowing. And I love the fact that Rosenberg, it gets to play the role of the Cuckoo. He has to just sit here and just allow it on Israel because he knows it's untenable for him to take any pro-Israel positions. Although I don't know that he's even like conscious of the fact that that has been done to him. No, I think he's conscious of the opposite is I know that I'm gaining, you know, being the favorite Jewish guy speaking against the people. I can't, I can't believe this is the face of, you know, being Jewish now and stuff. But it's just like, if you're going to have that conversation, it's just like you got to go deeper in you can't go Israel bad and just that, which I have no issue with people saying Israel bad. They do a lot of bad things, massively fucked up in a lot of ways. Yeah, like, you know, they're talking about them bombing Lebanon. And you know, Israel's saying, well, we're bombing Lebanon because we're going after Hezbollah, you know, and it's like you could go into, you know, hey, yeah, that's a valid thing. But also they're going a little too far. That's kind of the conversation that they're having is this too far or are these accurate strikes, all that type of stuff. But just Trump bad Trump like Israel, Israel bad. It's just like there's a million people doing that on TikTok, YouTube, everything. So it's just like, yeah, it was kind of like that was another pod. I watched both of them 1.75 speed and just sped through them. It was they was out of touch. It was just like, I just didn't know who the audience was that they was talking to. And I like, and you know, I'm in the same age bracket as them, but it's just that shit felt I walked away from watching that shit feeling older. Have me thinking, is that what the radio's like where they just kind of said there's so much airtime where you just end up talking about just like your kids and your family when there's not like the topics at hand. Also, it's an hour a day, which is so short. And as a person who like when we do the Tuesday show, we're sitting there for five hours today, we're going to do two hours. And I consider that a pretty breezy podcast. It's you have an hour out of the day and you're just like skimming through topics and like tacking on like long-winded conversations about the TV shows that you're watching. Like that's one issue I have a Rosenberg. How much fucking TV are you watching? Exactly. He was talking about all types of things. That's some old head shit. He was talking about so many shows I never even heard of. You know what it made me feel like though? It felt like they were a radio show parading as a podcast. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Even when they were sitting there like sending in your voice notes. That's like when people call it in and say, it's like they're stuck in a tie warp. It's like, what the fuck are we in and that is the one thing that I feel like is good about it. Is that the structure that they have kind of allows it to feel like maybe it's moving at a decent pace. You know where it's like, I understand that from Danny from the staff's perspective, like a three hour Joe Budden podcast probably feels like kind of a slog fest in comparison to watching this where it's an hour and you kind of know that any topic is probably going to be done in like 10 minutes. But ultimately like, and hey, maybe it's largely due to the clips that I was clicking on and there hasn't necessarily, I mean rap is not in a great place and maybe there's not that much interest in shit to talk about. From my perspective though, it just really, I don't know who it was supposed to appeal to and I don't really think that their audience is going to grow given the current content. And it kind of felt like even their sponsors were Oh, like their sponsors was talking about shit promoting gut health and shit. It was like boner pills and shit like that. It's like, okay, that's clearly the audience that they're targeting. They want to regulate their stomach. What do you think about Ebro pretty much blaming the numbers on saying, well, we went against Drake and academics and when you go against Drake and academics and the algorithm, it's unfavorable to you. He said that. No, no, there's no excuse. I feel like Ebro would be better just doing a show by himself. I don't feel like he's doing himself. I think Rosenberg is by far the best part of the podcast. Do you? I think he's the same. Yeah, Laura doesn't really. I mean, she adds a bit of like the Nadeska factor of like, oh, okay, there's a woman in the room, which is sometimes useful in case you need somebody to like not understand. But when she's saying, don't generalize women like that, it's just like, okay, get out of here. But the Catholic community, like what? But like, she like, I don't know, man. I feel like Rosenberg is smarter than everybody else on the podcast. He might be like extremely uncool, which he doesn't seem to really be aware of because from a different podcast today, I watched the clip of him speaking about Drake and academics. And there was a couple of things that he said that really felt pretty far removed from reality. Number one, he said that Drake doesn't know how to put an outfit together and that he, Rosenberg, LinkedIn is pretty amazing at helping you grow your small business. We cannot make your email response time faster. We cannot help you sell, market, and hire in one place. We cannot help you find space for your three desk drinks. Why do you have three? And while we can't help you find the perfect volume for your presentation video, LinkedIn can help you find the perfect audience for your business. Grow your small business on LinkedIn. Learn more at linkedin.com slash small business. Out dresses, Drake. Man. All the time. I screen recorded this and sent it to Drake. Immediately and just said, what the fuck? That's funny. Because that to me, really, like think about how much heavy lifting Rosenberg has to do to pull off an outfit in general. And like, I feel like, is Drake, like, I don't know how much attention is he actually paying to Drake's outfits? Like, Drake, who clearly has enough money to afford any level of stylist that he wants. Do you remember that image of like what his closet looks like? It's like a basketball court. Yeah. It's literally like a retail store. Rosenberg thinks he is out dressing Drake. Just shows how delusional he is. You need a hater in the room. You need somebody who's willing to push back. Rosenberg, you look dusty as fuck. Shut up. Yeah. Eddie was hating on Nick Cannon. Like he was talking to him about it. Like, what was that? Not seeing that, I was like, man, fuck this. But then it's one of those things where he takes the jab and he goes, but, you know, he does have a great broadcasting. I'd love to have that career. He walked it right back. Yeah. Like, don't walk it back instantly. I need that. But you ain't gonna hate on the homie though. Like, I know he been like, when I seen that, I was just like. But I think it was a little fair because they were saying pretty much, you know, they were talking about Kanye and they were talking about musical careers and they're like, you know, I love Jigolo, but you know, but anybody who knows Nick Cannon knows that's not his. No, for sure. Like, you know what I'm saying? He's much more known for producing. So he has one of the longest running. It was an unfair comparison. Like, yeah. It's like, but for him to try to sit on home, I was like, oh, yeah. You know what really stood out to me is that Rosenberg said, and Laura just immediately agrees with him, which is astounding that he said that academics makes 30 million dollars a year from streaming, which I don't know if he's making. I do essentially the same thing that academics is doing. And that I was astounded when I heard that. So they think agonist is making like three million dollars a month from YouTube and kick. And I just don't like, I don't know where they could have possibly gotten that idea, because if that was true, then I feel like their podcast would probably be making a couple million dollars a year, which I feel like that is clearly not the case. But like when I heard that and no shots at that at all, but it's like, I actually think that the real number would probably be more like 10% of that, which I know from my perspective, which is still DC. Three million a month. I would love that. Yeah, it's amazing for sure. But just the idea that like him streaming like maybe 30 hours a week or 20 hours a week or whatever, that that's making 30 million dollars a month. Shows how disconnected they are. But people think that streaming is magic. Like, okay, and I'll give you an example that doesn't involve me, but Blueface at one point posted a screenshot showing that his Twitch money that he had earned, and I forget the exact number of hours, but it was something like, it was like 20 grand, but it was like, it was like 72 hours of streaming total, which obviously if you're streaming 40 hours a week or slightly less, that would mean two weeks. Yeah, like two weeks of streaming. So like 10 grand a month or a week, which would be impressive. But it's so far away from being three million dollars a month. I don't understand like how they could be that out of touch since they stream their content as well. Oh, go ahead. I think maybe they're trying to maybe like paint, like act like as this big conglomerate now. Like they used to be like on Hot 97. Maybe they're trying to paint him as like, he's the corporation. And because we go against him, that's why our shit is failing. Normally you try to act like your ops make less money. I think they're just looking at it like they're kind of like a boxing fan thinking all boxers make Canelo money. You know what I mean? It's like, you know, the top of the top, Kaisen Nats, you know, breaking in the money, you know, the Plackboy Max's, the XQC's, you know, all these guys are, but you trickle down just ones here under them and the money falls off. Yeah. So it's just like, I think they're just looking at it as like streaming this boom of streaming and anybody who's popular and streaming and stays relevant in the clips and stuff, they must be just killing it because, okay, that $30 million a year stat, I would be more likely to say that that is like what I would think that somebody like Kaisen at when he's like a peak of his pressure at the height of it. Yeah. Because, okay, that's actually pretty close to accurate because like from the sub revenue, I think at a certain point it was like Kaisen, I was making like a million dollars a month from subs. So this is like the most subs person on the internet making a million dollars a month, but still somehow academics is making three times that from what? Question mark, question mark, I don't really understand like how they could have been led to believe. The highest I've ever seen was like five to seven million for Kaisen at in a month or something like that. Reportedly, you know, I'm sure it might, you know, see that. And I don't think AXE Streams as much as Kaisen Nats used to, right? Because Kai used to be on there like all day, every month long stream. Right. And Aql have like maybe 10,000 viewers on YouTube and then maybe like a couple thousand more on kick and like really that's like pretty small in comparison to somebody like Kaisen Nats who I'm pretty sure was sitting there with like 30,000 like on average day. He had LeBron on the stream. There's like fucking 500K watching. Exactly. I still can't believe he walked away from that. Who LeBron? Kai. Oh, Kai. I think it was making some good explanations kind of that. Like your whole life being on camera and just not be able to, you know, you can have a regular life. Let's check in about our fucking weight loss journey. How are you guys doing with all this? I had a little bit of a tough weekend. I'm not gonna lie. You ate the bread. I ate the bread. I think I only lost like two pounds. I thought I was going to lose a lot more. I was like super motivated, but I've been tracking the calories trying to do all that thing. But yeah, I had to drive to Sacramento this past weekend on a quick turnaround and I definitely ate like three sizes of pizza. Did you get some gym boys? No, I don't fuck with gym boys. Two, three. Have you ever been to gym boys in Sacramento? We got to take him to Sacramento, but you don't fuck with gym boys. Yeah, I'll go with y'all, but I'm not messing with the Taco Burger. Easy to Taco Burger join. I mean, Taco's that far north for sure. I don't trust any Mexican who's so curious that he feels that he needs to drive seven hours north. Gym boys is like a hood like staple. So I can't believe you don't like. Yeah, it's just too greasy. They put Parmesan cheese on the shelves. My week wasn't that good either. Like I don't know how much weight I've lost or gained. I'll weigh myself after I get off because I left my scale up here, but it wasn't the greatest. I've been starving myself since last night because I thought we were weighing in. I didn't want to weigh more. That's why I wanted to do a boy because I'm sitting there looking like about to make breakfast and I'm just like, am I really? I'm skipping breakfast. I'm going to eat two eggs so that I don't have to so I can be worried about the wind. Listen, I did flawless all week until Friday night. I go out to you with my girl, we go to the restaurant, Alba in Hollywood or whatever. And it was amazing. You know, we got a brunch. I can't remember. I've seen the lamb chops. Did you even ask AI, should you do it or are you just taking pictures? No picture of the menu that time. You just went in and that's the problem is that on one hand, okay, so like over the course of the weekend too, my wife was helping me with like, you know, gearing up for, you know, meal prepping for myself and stuff, which is a big part of this whole thing is that she's, she's a really good cook. And so she's helping me. How did that go? By the way, you feel it's good, you know, I'm like, I can make the rice. I can make the chicken. I can make the steak now. It's just really more of an issue of me like getting home on a Sunday night and choosing to do that and meal prep for the next couple of days instead of just like sitting on my ass and then being like whatever, I'm going to work on your phone. Give me some goop. That's the thing I always fall into whenever I meal prep, like right around like, if I do it on Sunday, right, like right around Wednesday, that like microwave in the food seems very unappeling. Because it's a little gross. It seems drier. It just seems like I'd rather cook every like two or three. Yeah, I like cooking. So I just be cooking dinner every day. Yeah. That's the thing about me is that then it's like, I want to play poker. I want to do cardio or I want to watch some shit on YouTube, which I have to like make that more of my part of my whole thing. But okay, that's the thing too is that my girl was complaining about me not taking her on enough dates. So I'm trying to take her on like, like, like every other Friday I'm trying to go on a date. You guys don't have date night like already in the schedule? Well, we're 10 years into our relationship and we're just now instituting it. So no, historically, no, it was like number two out of like fucking 50 something. I'm like, oh, this dude really I'm gonna do 22 dates in 2026. Okay, that's what it was. This was date number three. But then what's fucked up too, though, is this like Sunday morning, me and the kid go to the polo lounge with Beverly Hills Hotel and apparently that doesn't count. It's $500 leaving my wallet going into paying for this date. And apparently it doesn't count as a day. We gotta draw a contract. We gotta figure out the parameters and what it ate. But she said that it's because she booked it, which she booked it months ago because I guess it's really hard to get a reservation that she booked it months ago so that she could just go out to brunch with her friend and then her friend ended up being out of town or whatever. So we ended up going with a default date. If I'm paying, it's a goddamn date. It's a date. It's up then. It's not a date. He wasn't even first choice for the date. But I was like down also by the polo lounge. Like I've previously had good experiences there, but when I went there, I was just kind of let down like, bro, this is like override. It's just for how much it costs, it's like everything was pretty mid. It was mid? Yeah. Do you feel like they're flying off the name? It's at the Beverly Hills Hotel for people who don't know. And it's extremely expensive and everything about it is really, really nice. But actually when I really thought about the food, I was like, all this food is pretty whatever. It was just meh. As we get older, as ours just tastes, but it's changing because I feel like a lot of restaurants I go to now, I'm like, damn, they're could cook a steak better than this. I could do some, I could do it up at home. When you leave LA and New York, it's like you realize that the food is deplorable everywhere else in America. Like you go on Postmates, even in fucking Miami, like I know Miami has nice restaurants and stuff, but I'm ordering like burgers and shit off of Postmates in Miami. And I'm like, bro, like all of America, like I've just trained myself to expect a certain degree of quality in food. And there's just no, there's nothing encouraging a local food vendor to make their food that much better in most of America, because they're competing against a bunch of other places where the food also fucking sucks. And out here, it's like, just smash burgers alone. You're up against the wall if you want to be a smash burger spot. You just really have to compete. And it's just like, it's like the competition in the NBA, whereas like if you go to Boise, Idaho, the competition for food on Postmates is just like, even when I go to Santa Clarita and I'm looking at Postmates, it's like, this is dark. Ordinary dominoes and shit. Yeah. You might have to get CPK because everything sucks up. Especially after a certain time, don't let them start closing and stuff. The good stuff closes and you're stuck with some trash for sure. This is what we cannot do, gentlemen, for the weight loss challenge. We can't just fuck this off. Like this is the shit that we came in on. We got, we got, somebody got to lose some weight. I think the problem is there's nothing at stake. We got to shave our head or you got to shave the beard off. Like something like that. That's what I was thinking. Shaving the beard. Whoever's the lowest has to shave their beard. This is going to look so funny if we're all sitting here with no beard. Y'all look like a deer in the face. I don't look like. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Like there's got to be something at stake to really, you know, motivate us to where we don't look like weirdos. We got to be incentivized. Shave our eyebrows off. I don't know. It's got to be something crazy. I like that though, because I do feel like, yeah, like I'm not enough at stake. If you had to cut that beard off, you would be in that gym because okay. Yeah, no, but I shaved my head for the fight. I didn't go to the skin, but it was still pretty disgusting. You know, for sure. I'm happy to be having my hair back at this point. Like I've never been bald. So that would be big. I'm never getting my hair back. I lost my shit. Like, yeah, that's why I was like, don't boys already bald. That don't count. So you got to shave the beard. Come up off the beard though. You're going to look like a Minecraft character. At least the essays will leave me alone. That's all good. I mean, because I'm trying to think like what would be enough to make me not pick out going out to eat on a Friday night. That's what I'm saying. That's what I was trying to think of. And it's probably money. Like I don't even really care about shaving my head that much. What about your beard? You don't care about shaving your beard either? I don't want to, but also that would just be like, I would look kind of ugly for like a week. You know, it's like a week or a week. Alright, so we're going to make it some money. What's up? What's the pot? What we're going to put in the pot? I think your guys' pots probably a little bit bigger than mine. So you know what I'm saying? That's why I wasn't going to go the money on my potting. I ain't never been on Wild N' Out. I don't want to compete against you guys because I feel like it's so unfair and it would be so hard for us to like grade our weight loss against each other when you weigh like almost twice. I thought we're doing the percentage from the beginning type. The percentage, yeah, because if I lose 20, it ain't the same as if you lose 20. I think that's the best thing. My goal is to lose 20 pounds. Okay. So I feel like that's kind of like a good place to base it on is to just say, but then that's kind of fucked up too because it's like, I know that if I fast for a day before the weigh-in, that I could at least lose three pounds, that if I really dehydrate myself, that I could probably lose another couple pounds. I saw a YouTuber lose 10 pounds from just like doing cardio and like not drinking water for like a day before I weigh in. That's exactly what I'm doing. I want to say I find these healthy habits so it could be something that we take on for the rest of our lives. But I feel like we do need to be properly. No, I'm going to do the healthy stuff. I'm doing the calories. I'm counting. I'm making sure I hit my calories, my proteins, all that stuff. But that week, two weeks before, it's, yeah, we're going starvation mode for sure. I'm a competitive guy. I just don't have any over here. Yeah, for sure. I don't have it in me to be sitting in a nice restaurant with like a big fucking bowl of pasta in front of me. And like my wife, I see her doing it that she eats and she eats, I don't know, like, you know, like one scooping of it. And then I eat the other 60 scoops of it. Like, I just can't stop. And then, oh, but you want to, I'm, this is like me confessing my sins because this is so bad. This is really fucked up. But so she ordered a dessert. She ordered the cannolis, right? So they bring out some really nice cannolis. There's three cannolis. She eats one. I said I wasn't going to eat any. I ate the other two. I know you did. When he told us he was going to do, I was like, he going to eat that bread. I'm glad. I'm like, yeah, this is him sabotaging himself. It's going to be easy competition for us. This is amazing for you. But she gets way worse. I did not confess this to you guys. So then we go for a walk afterwards because we had a little bit of an early dinner. So we would have enough time to go for like an hour walk or whatever, which is, you know, lovely to do that with your spouse and out of date. Yeah, just tack that on to the date. And so we go for this walk. And so she says at some point, I got to the bathroom and there's like a shopping plaza that has like a bathroom in it. I say, let's go there. Guess what's across from the bathroom is Van Luen's ice cream, which has my all time in my life favorite flavor of ice cream, black cherry chip. It is so good. And it's Toyota truck month. Time to get a truck that works as hard as you do. 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I told her I was going to do this before she actually went to the bathroom. But like, I mean, just the fact that I did that, when the walk is supposed to be like, oh, I'm going to get my metabolism moving, burn off a couple hundred calories. That's probably really optimistic. But like, you know, and then somehow it ends with me eating a big scoop of ice cream. But I will say that the next day Saturday, because I had gorged myself so much the day before that I really, really only ate one meal, which that seemed pretty good. And I did that too. Like I tried to do like the whole one meal a day thing. I was like, I'm just going to do one meal. But then by the time I got to that one meal, that one meal was a Jesus. And I will say that even after I picked out, because yesterday, the Polo Lounge again, picked out a way too much. But my weight right now is like kind of basically where it was when we started this whole thing because so okay, today my problem is that I'm going to the casino to play at the hustler casino, which people watching this live, you could probably go watch that if you want. But they have food. But I have to like make sure I think every time I've ever gone, I got the burger and fries when I see it right there, the salmon with the vegetables. Right. You're going to go salmon and vegetables. Just do protein, just try to do protein and vegetable. If you do a burger, just do it with the lettuce wrap. Oh my God. While you're playing poker thing. You got touching his cars. Yeah, I'm not going to lie. One quarter pounder so far. You know, I had one court. I broke down. Yeah, I need about 1500 calories. So I'm like, it's late at night. I said quarter pounder, no fries. I got two A-grows. I ate two A-grows from, I got three, but only eight to a burger. So you ordered it, I assume? I picked it up in the drive-through. I felt like Clave McDonald's. Oh God. Okay. I felt like Clave. He's always burger Maxon. And I'm like, he's in shape. You know, I seen him eat a quarter pounder, no cheese, but you know, I need some cheese. I got, I ate two A-grows for mozzarella sticks in an Oreo cookie shake. Where was this? Jack in the box. They have way too many options. I've been trying to cook, but sometimes I'm like getting home at 11 o'clock. I'm like, I'm not about to fucking cook a meal right now. I am so glad that I confessed to my sins and that you guys had ones that were like, I mean, really, like, I did it at places that I'm just not like literally in the form of the polo lines. Like I can't go there. Like you have to make an appointment like fucking months in advance or whatever. And that other restaurant, I mean, I'm just not going to go do that. Also, as I'm saying this, I'm thinking, wow, that's $1,000 worth of food in one week. Jesus. How do they get into that bag? I better start streaming like, I gotta go back to the academic, you capitalist pig. A thousand for two meals is crazy. Yeah, that's way too much. But I mean, I don't know. That's like, that's just kind of a curse to me. Like, oh, shit, like, I gotta, I gotta tell her like, yo, these dates, I got, I got to go in with a plan. Like I can't go to an Italian restaurant on a Friday night. You're going to lose it every time you're going to do lasagna or pasta. And that's the devil right now. We got to have a vegan restaurant date now. You got to tell Lena, like, you know, we're going to stay because you could do steak and like restaurants and you'll be good. And you know what? That's the thing that fucked me up too. With going to the polo lounge is that it's like a fixed menu, right? So the first thing they bring out is like crab and avocado toast. And this is another reason I was annoyed by the polo lounge is that the service was kind of shit. Like it was kind of, it was taking too long for everything to come out. We're in there for two hours eating breakfast, charging all that money and I got two hours. All the fancy places are kind of ass like that. I eat that that shit. And then I have enough time to like really like gauge how full I am before they bring my main course out. And I'm really just kind of realized I'm like, bro, that was enough. Trying to be healthy. I could just keep going. I could have ate that and I would have been hungry like, you know, three, four hours later or whatever, like a normal person. And that's my problem is that sometimes I go out to eat with normal people and I see the way they eat. And I realized like, this is the vast gulf between me and them is that I have to eat everything. And oh, my five year old daughter didn't finish her pancakes. Give me that dad tax. Dad tax. Tack on extra 400 calories worth of pancakes. Is Lena the type where you could tell her, Lena, don't let me go crazy. And she'll be like, Adam, slap your hand away from the bread. The problem with her is that throughout her life, she has had an eating disorder. Like she just has a hard time like with her weight or whatever. But and hopefully she doesn't know that I'm saying this, but she's been on the shot for a couple of years now. So she's chilling. She don't got to worry about it because she literally like cannot eat enough to fill herself up to the point where she's going to get fat. So this is why I like, I really probably should be on that shit. But here I am in this 90 day challenge. For me, it's like, honestly, if I can't get to the losing 20 pounds without the shot throughout this, I'm probably going to that's all I was going to say. If we all fail, we're going to get the shot. Yeah, we're going to be heavier than the next couple months of that. Before and before. We're going to bring in the doctor and say, come on, doc. Give us the needle. Yeah. That's crazy for me because I had weight loss surgery. If I got to get the needle to the problem in this stomach, the thing about the needle though is that it's like, there's no negative side effects really. And it seems like it helps people in a lot of other ways as well. Now, I think it like promotes you starving yourself because you'll forget to eat. I did those before. And like, you'll just literally be walking around all day. And sometimes you get a mean case of the shits. Yeah, it could be bad. I'm down for all that. And then when you get off of it, oh, you're going to eat every, it's like your brain is just like, I mean, the thing about clav is that above all else when you really listen to him is like, I believe that his looks maxing philosophy, the 90% of it is beeline and get, use drugs to get there. Like nothing else really matters to him. Like the working out, you can't take it to leave it. Cardio, you don't give a fuck. The bone smashing stuff. I think that's like really intended to go viral. The jaw surgery is like a meme, you know, I think that really like ultimately his whole philosophy and that's why he makes so much sense in this day and age is that he's the GOP one guy. Yeah. How about this? Okay. How about happy medium? What if we get to this week six and if we haven't lost enough weight, we all get on the needle. I got into my fridge. If we get to the six week and we ain't losing the weight, now we're letting the fans down. I've been in my fridge so long that I'm like starting to wonder if it's still good. Bro, there's people DMing me in the request still. Yo, man, I got the redder. It's better than ozempic. I got it for you. I can say sorry, man. I said I wouldn't do it. People who were slanging ketamine and lean a couple of years ago, right? Yeah, they got the redder. I go chat. I go, is redder safe? They go, not approved yet, but better than ozempic. I go, well, maybe, you know, you haven't lost 10 by the six week. If you haven't lost 20 and if I haven't lost 30, we getting that juice. We get another juice. All right, we're gonna do it. We just started off good though with the height. They don't even know about the height. They don't know that Musman's boot fell apart for real. And I said, I'm on my David Gawkin shit. I'm not turning back. But thank God, Ralphie did. Ralphie the dog because my foot was starting to hurt for sure. I didn't know if I was going to make it. I wasn't going to hold out like I would have passed out before, but I was struggling. You basically went the entire distance that we were going to go. We just like turned around like about at the halfway point of the whole thing. I'm going to be real though, it was kind of dope. Like it made me realize that like everybody I've ever worked out with in my entire life was either at like basically the same fitness level or better than me. And this was my first time like really working out with two dudes who were like in much worse shape than we are. So I mean, and you were really struggling, but you were fighting through but you're in a lot better shape than I think you understand. Yeah, yeah. Because that wasn't easy. Like we going up like heels and stuff. I didn't even see him break a sweat the whole time. And the only time he was stopping was because of me for real. You wasn't really even stopping. I've also done that exact workout probably like 50 times. But it's still you you've built up that in. For sure. I was just like I was looking at like this is Adam Gawkin. No, yeah, it was definitely killing me. But it's just like I'm kind of just one of those dudes where it's like, I'm never going to let you know that it's killing me. Like I'm going to pass out before I'm like, yo, let's slow down guys. Like what do you think of the hike though? Because I feel like there was like some baddies. I was kind of proud of my local couple of them. I was like, it was one I looked at she gave me the eyes to but I didn't have the breath to go holla. What's up? Don't boy, you ever watch? What are some of your interests? I love Adam breakdown. He goes, yeah, the weekday they're pretty bad. He's like looking at girls. He goes, the weekend, BBLs man. It's like, I'm coming back on the weekend then. But real though, the bad bitches in there. But it's honestly like two crowded on Saturday. It's kind of annoying. I feel like we should stream the next hike that we do. We just got going somewhere else. Well, but I mean, I don't know, maybe if you got that neon backpack, it'd be all right. But then who's putting that backpack on for the hike? I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I came out the shirt. Yo, but the Edgers, I took the Edgers on a little baby hike on the way to go do cardio with Blue Face that time. They were falling down. No, he was Stephen. But yeah, I mean, Mikey's in like really, really good shape. Yeah, he's probably in the best shape of the office. Would you say? Yeah, probably. Mikey isn't good shape. Yeah, give it to him. Yeah, we should fuck Mikey. You gotta stop saying, you know, people think I'm gay. After 90 years. People think I am gay because of you. He said it's not to be fair, it's your own homie. First of all, your own people. I'm scared to, you see, I've been trying to hit this as masculine as possible. I feel like I want to bring a gut at him. I would. David Goggins. You gotta hit like Popeye and shit. Yo, that shit with like low key rival like, yo, because I know wax said the shit that he said, because the ladies that he was with or whatever. I was just like, damn, and you're selling people. I'm bouncing off to your meat. Yeah, I don't know why. So you just taking shit and just making it gay to try to make whack uncomfortable. But wait, so wax whole argument basically was like, oh, dough boy, because there was that screenshot that like you gave me that was basically like you kind of taking your pants off. You're all hunched over. You're like, not really looking at grade on the side of the table. And you know, I'm just sort of sitting there laughing. And that was enough for whack to like basically it was like the same accusation that they say about like Medea and the dresser. Humiliation ritual. Yeah. Humiliation ritual. The feminization of a black man. I've gotten so many people concerned calling me like, don't be over there doing all that. Don't let him turn you out. I'm like, man, relax. Like I know how to get people to click on a picture. And really, if you all were to watch the video, you would have known what we was doing it for. But I understand there was going to be that that out raise. But I didn't know it was going to be like Yeah. And it's so funny to hear whack like Lexi like, Hey, dough boy, now that you up there, don't let him do that. And he like sex plays whack on every episode of the Adam and Wack show. It's like, what are you saying? And yeah, obviously Adam, I mean, whack pushes back. But it's like, you weren't just like happy, go lucky when he's saying crazy shit either. I was just sitting there like, man, I thought it was a fun thing. I thought it was a good splash to make. But shit, I got cooked for that. I got cooked for the blackface shit. Yeah, you're on an all right now. They're calling you like the new Brandon in some way. I don't know if you've said anything this episode that could really get you dragged. No, yeah, we got to find something for sure. I know. Fun fact, let me tell you some true story of what happened over the weekend. Sure. Yeah. Because of this podcast as well. I lost a real relationship over a hypothetical conversation. The blackface combo. No, not that. That wasn't it. So it was a hypothetical conversation. Because you know, when I first came on the show, I was like, yo, I want to do adult films. Oh, where's the fat guy? I want to do that. Right. And I was serious about that. So the lady I was dealing with, like, you know what I'm saying? So I was talking to her. We were just having a hypothetical conversation. And I was just like, look, man, if he ever gave me the shot to do it and I could do it, I would do it. She was like, well, that would be the end of our relationship. I was like, if I got a chance to do something that I wanted to do my whole life, you're going to tell me that I can't be in a relationship. She was like, no, you couldn't. And this is a girl you've been talking to for how long? Four or five months. Nothing too crazy. Right. And so then I was just like, well, what if he offered me $2.5 million to do it? More money is in everything. I was like, okay, well, now you are a ridiculous human best. So I was like, oh, you're stupid. So I'm just like, no, I would absolutely. So then it turned into, I was like, listen, if I get the opportunity to do it, I'm going to do it. She was like, well, then we just need to end this right now. And I was just like, so now I'm back. It's like a hypothetical situation. Almost certainly never happened. I'm going to do it one day. I'm going to do adult films. Even if it's amateur. Even if I start my own own. Exactly. Yeah. I will just because it's just something to where like I never felt like there was representation. It was just, it's just one of those bucket list things that I want to do. But like, we even went with her. Like, it's not like I want to step out the relationship and just go, it's just, this is something that I want to do. And she was just not having what if what if Adam said, you know, don't boy, it may be another time, but your girl is bad as hell. I'm going to give her 2.5 million to shoot. Are you going to allow her to do that? Everybody get to the chat. Let's take the money away and say she brought this convo to you and just, you know, this has been my dream. Doh boy. I'm cool with it. But I'm just a little bit more open minded. Then I'm not tripping. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's just like, especially if that's something that I've always wanted to do, like bucket list. You've been horny for a long time. My problem with it is just that it's like, but it really draws attention to how monogamy just has a grip on people's minds. So the point where even this mega hypothetical scenario that is not taking place or whatever is still like just the idea of it is so deeply offensive to this woman that she has to act out like that. You have to break your eyes up. It's hypothetical. But also it's like, that's on you as well. Doh boy. Not understanding women. It's like, just do the porn and show her the 2.5 million. Don't ask the hype. You got to ask for forgiveness. Not permission. Exactly. Yeah. If you said that, like, Hey, all right. So I did porn yesterday, but also I got us flights to Turks. We're going to Turks. Like, Cox or fist back. Okay. Yeah. I'll go on the vacay. Yeah. So the one thing I thought that I had going is no longer. Yeah. Wow. I mean, but I don't want to lie though. Cause if I really, if you really came to me, it was like, I know you said, I'm lying all day. I'm lying all day. Also upset about the fact that you said that you weren't in a relationship. Oh, she was pissed about that too. Yeah. I was just like, Hey, man, just let me just do my thing. What's your justification for saying? Because it's not part of my public persona. Like, Oh, the fun guy. I'm happy about, but trust me, I got the text message. She was like, Oh, really? Yes. I'm like, come on, babe. Don't, don't. I think it's even an issue being in the scene and even having your partner like paying attention, that type of stuff. It's like, you know what I'm saying? My girl knows that I'm going to be saying crazy shit up here. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to go home and argue with it. Yeah. It's like, you have to find a partner that like understands what you do. And I think that like women don't like, or just people in general, like they don't understand. It's just like, even though we're on this, it's not, it's not like we're like traditional actors. Like, you know what I'm saying? But there is, it's like this personification that we have. So even when we're on here all the time, like it's damn near part of like a character. Yeah, we're larger than life. Don't take all this shit to heart. But yeah. Yeah. But it's funny because like, in the past, there was a former host on this podcast too, at one point was like really leaning on that of like, I'm a rapper. I need to be able to like, you know, present myself a certain way with other women and stuff. Because as a rapper, I need to be cool. I need to be fun. I need to be, you know, having girls in my videos, blah, and like apparently at a certain point, like he was getting away with this with his girl, but then at a certain point it becomes like, okay, in what way are you really a rapper? You've got music videos, but it's like, wait, you're not NBA young boy, because I understand him making that argument. I understand like, Tyga having to say like, Hey, I'm going to do this video. I'm going to be filling up on 20 BBLs in there or whatever. Like, but then even then, like the actual rappers, like when's the last time you saw Drake actually do anything physical with a girl? Yeah, he's like dancing on in the video rubbing on. No, he's like, no, he's like, sitting down in there. Yeah, it's like, you know, it should be like a pretty easy conversation. But anybody who's ever wrapped is successful or unsuccessful. We've all got that off, baby. I can't have you out in the public because I gotta have all these holes follow. I gotta follow the holes on IG because I'm a rapper. Exactly. I'll lose fans. Yeah. Exactly. We've all got that successful or unsuccessful rappers. For sure. For me, because like as a porn guy or whatever, it's like my girl legitimately does not give two fucks about me doing porn with other girls. Like she actually like, I will have a day where I film two different plug talk scenes with two different girls and then I come home and she doesn't even think about it. If I mention it, it's like, oh, yeah, you were doing that all day. She doesn't even fuck. But then as soon as I get attention from a non porn star or like a girl who seems like she wants to fuck me just on the basis of who I am. Oh, she's going nuclear. Oh, man. It's like a different thing. And it's like, it's strange for me to get used to that still because I'm still kind of, but I guess I get it too because I don't really give a fuck about her shooting porn with other guys. Like, I mean, I probably care more than she cares about me shooting girls. But ultimately, like, if there was anything even slightly flirtatious with her and another dude, like if I saw text, like with Swaggy P hitting her DMs. Yeah. Well, I mean, like she didn't respond to that or whatever. So that's pretty easy. But like, if there was something where one of these porn dudes, like, if I ever saw a text message with one of these dudes that seemed like she was actually flirting with them, like, I'm not gonna lie. I might be just done. I feel that. So you beat. So you're cool with if she's doing her job and she's performing doing the same. That's fine. Yeah. The sex, the porn thing is like one thing. And if you see like a whole bunch of text messages, that's feelings because she has either convinced me or gaslit me, depending on how you want to view it over the years into believing that she actually would never have feelings for anybody else or be like that with anyone else. So I mean, it might sound, I understand it sounds insane to people, but it actually like fully makes sense. And I think that she's in a similar boat. Like, if she saw screenshots of me, like really flirting with a girl and like really carrying on in that way, I don't think because it's all about the feelings because it's like born. It's like, oh, you're creating this facade that, you know, we fuck with each other. And then, you know, that's just business as soon as it goes deeper than that. It's like, Oh, no, it's actually deeper than that. Like we thought or whatever, you know, you'd almost have to be crazy to mess something like that up. Because if you get to be able to do that and live a life to where you can go and shoot different scenes or whatever, and this is like, I wouldn't risk doing that because you're not picking up random tech, another woman that you're going to get married to. And she's going to be dope with everything. But it is kind of in the soul of a man to fuck a good thing up. We always find a way to do it. Yeah. But I mean, there's just so many things at this point. It's like, ah, we got to sell house. I'm not going to be able to see the kid that much. Like, even when I'm like really annoyed by her, it's still like, there's all these things that it's like, do you really want to fuck Adam? Adam's sleeping in his office. We're like that is man, we always find a way to mess up good things. I think because you just kind of get comfortable and then you're like, remember back in the day when it was just kind of crazy and you know, it was just wild and you know, kind of kind of miss that. And then that gets old in like two months and you're like, I just ruined my life for this. I also don't like being controlled though, because even when I talked to old girl and I was just like, I tried to make it like a parallel. I was like, well, what if I was acting and I had to do a sex scene? And she was like, well, it depends on what kind of, and so I was just like, I'm gonna have to come and check with you on everything. In the sex scene, you're not actually having sex. Yeah, you got like a sock on you. Intimacy coordinator that they have on set and they like make sure everybody's uncomfortable with all the positions. And that's what I always hear is that when it comes to that stuff, like, you know, you watch it in fucking euphoria or whatever. And you're just thinking, like, oh my God, like, I would have such a hard time controlling myself in this environment. I'm gonna have a raging bone. Scormin' all over Sydney Sweeney. I'm not gonna be able to work together. But when you actually hear actors talk about the sex scenes, they say it's like the least sexy thing on earth because it takes so much time to set up and it just goes on and on. But like, well, like the kissing, like in a lot of TV shows, like, I can't even imagine how difficult that is for a lot of actors to stomach, you know, like it's one thing with the porn world. But for these people that like have never had to deal with that at all and you're just making out with Sydney Sweeney. That's pretty intense. Hey, you gotta understand. Come on. I'm on for you. Yeah. Did you watch the new episode yet? I did not. I did not. I watched that other Netflix one that crazy. Trust me. Oh my God. That was one of the most shocking performance I've ever watched. Yes, I watched like the first episode of that. The fundamentalist. The actual full name is... Church of the Latter-day Saints. Oh, fuck. I think I deleted it accidentally. Trust me. The False Prophet. I believe it. Yes. Trust me. The False Prophet. So I'll give the people at home like a little gist of it. Oh my God. It was wild. Basically, it's in Arizona. Colorado City, Arizona. It's this Mormon sort of community and they had this leader whose name was, I think, Warren Jeffs, who's sort of infamous at this point because he was basically like the leader of this group, this religious group, but he was using his powers. I'm not super familiar with him, but he was using his clout to basically fuck a bunch of little girls. Yeah, really little girls. Polygamous. So he had a bunch of wives and a lot of them were underage. And some like, not a little bit underage. It's not a flock of situations. They're like tiny 10. Yeah, it's fucked up. Like really young. So that guy ends up getting locked up. And I think there's a documentary about him that I'm now kind of intrigued to watch. Yeah, I've seen that before. He gets locked up. And so then there's this time period where these people are sort of lost, but they're still following this dude even though he's locked up. So then at some point, this dude, Samuel, who when you think about these sort of like religious charlatans, you think of them as being like pretty charismatic in order to be able to pull this off. This guy is the biggest fucking loser I've ever seen in my entire life. And even these people in this religious community who really have like no exposure to the outside world, I would expect them to be able to understand what a loser this guy is for a while. Yeah. And so he basically like becomes the dude in this community and he's got like maybe a couple dozen wives at a certain point and some of them are like 11. It's nuts. And the people just looked crazy. I was like, why do they look different? Like just even the people, they just look spaced out behind the eyes. Like they're like in bread and I was watching that and the girls watched it was just like, no, like they do it like a lot. I was like, oh, that's what. Yeah. Like the problem was like the main guy who was in prison, he said that they can have kids anymore. So there's a big long stretch where nobody was having any kids. And then the new guy comes along and he's like the loser of the group, but he wants to have a kid. So he like, you know, defects from the group and then just pops back up with all these wives and a lot of them there some of his wives are like a grown woman who's 40 years old and then she's got a bunch of daughters who are whatever, 10 years old, 11, 12, 13, whatever. And he'll, his wives will be the 40-year-old woman and all of her daughters. Yeah. So and in addition to that, some of these guys who are like, he brings in these like men as part of it and he's basically like he's banging these guys child daughters and the guys are on board with it. And it seems like at a certain point, they end up getting so freaky with it that they're having like almost like orgies. Literally. It's hard to imagine how you would convince somebody who grew up under like a super strict religious organization that this is normal, but they really are just doing literally anything this guy tells them to do. That's the scary thing about religion too, when you, because people take religion like religion so serious, like you can just see people like, don't you know this is wrong? Like this person is telling you this, like that is a very scary premise. My main takeaway was this is why we cannot have autistic people in power, because that dude was clearly autistic and crazy. The jumping around, the hikes, you know, jumping off of rocks and stuff. There's gotta be like, hey, film me. And then like his buddy's like filming him and he's like jumping between rocks. Really good. I really like something I would have done when I was 10. Very impressive. Very athletic. That's what I would have wanted when I was nine years old. I would have wanted to be like, follow you. Come on, film me, jump up between these rocks. Yeah. So he's pretty much trying to like make himself like Jesus. So that's why you're saying he had to do these heinous things and have the, the one of the guys have sex with some of the young girls in front of his daughters and all this weird stuff is that this is the pain that Jesus felt. So I'm like Jesus. And that was like his whole thing is like, that's why we have to do this. A lot of people watching this are probably thinking, how do they have footage of this? Like, why would anybody consent to being filmed doing what is obviously illegal? And it's basically, there's like a documentary crew who had other aims that they just wanted to make a documentary about this religious group and then basically slowly figure out what's going on. And it's really interesting because you get to see their perspective where they have to be undercover and not give away the fact that they're planning on giving all this information to the law. But then you also see sort of how complicated and slow the process is by which the cops are able to put this case together because they have audio of this dude basically acknowledging that he's having sex with these little girls. But then the, like the audio they give it to the cops, so the cops can't really act on just that. They kind of need like more. That was the craziest part for sure. But then what really stood out to me is that once they lock these people up, everybody starts flipping. Because nobody wants to be in prison. So once they've locked them up for a little while, everybody starts turning. And what was crazy too is that the other guys, the dudes who are with them who kind of try to pass it off like they were just brainwashed or whatever, bro, those dudes get 25, 30 years, which good. Because Lee, how are you a grown man allowing this to happen to your daughter? Kyle, that's crazy. Unreal. Like it doesn't matter what anybody who's saying to me, that would never be okay. I don't know how I actually only got sucked into that documentary. That was yeah, because it's like even the police thing, it's like, yeah, supposedly it takes a lot to charge the case. But the FBI was like, yo, why didn't they bring this to us before this? And then the main kind of sheriff guy, he was like, this is an enclave for, you know, polygamous people, you know, this is where they could come and kind of be accepted. So it's like, he was turning a blind eye to the sheriff. He was a little nonchalant about the old. He was definitely a part of one of them cults for sure. Yeah. And I feel like a lot of these people, like they're so used to the polygamy and they're probably used to the really young wives, but they aren't maybe used to the true level of degradation that this was. So they were maybe like not necessarily going to latch onto it. But like, I mean, the scene where they're basically chasing after him, because the guy basically figures out that they're going to be apprehended by the feds. And so he goes on this like crazy police chaser, they take off and they end up finding him. And he's got all of the women like shoved into the back of this trailer. And the trailer is not sealed properly. So there's a, there's a pretty good chance that these people are going to basically fall out of this vehicle and spill out all over the highway. I mean, honestly, even after all the shit that we just said, I still feel like people should watch it because just, just witnessing it was, because even the woman that went in, she's like the most interesting woman in the world, like, could she like one, all these like, you know, this pageant, and then she did this, and she's a doctor of this, you know, and then ends up in some shit like that. Yeah. And the whole, the whole point was to like humanize the church of Latter-day Saints because she got wrapped up in something like that. And she just wanted to show people, Hey, you know, this is a way of life. We shouldn't judge them. And then it turned into like, Oh, maybe we should. Yeah, this is really just partially. Yeah. Yeah. Throw the book at these. But yeah, that was probably one of the most shocking things I've watched in a while. I was just like, insane. Did you guys get to check out any of the episodes of something very bad's about to happen? No, but I thought it was a movie. Okay. And then I realized was a serious. I'm rolling out of bed middle of last week when you said that. And I have a problem where like every text I read early in the morning, I'm just going to forget about it. And I'm never going to think about it again. It just like immediately vanishes from my brain. So I emailed myself. And I just wrote something very bad is going to happen. And then like, when I finally go to look at my email, like 11am, I just see that. Said they're scared. I was so confused. I'm not gonna lie. I was really confused for like five, 10 minutes, like looking at my phone, just thinking like, did I wake up? It was only once I looked at the time and I was like, Oh, that's right. When I woke up. Oh, Oh, boy. Yeah, I didn't get a chance to see that. It's pretty cool. Like I only only got through like the first two episodes, but it's like this like really like thrillerist type of thing, like this couple, and you can tell that they're about to get married. He's going to take her to his family, but they're like in this little really weird town. And then when they get to the house, it's like a bunch of weird stuff happening. You should definitely watch it. It's like a movie. No, but it's, it's, it's, no, it's a series. It's not a documentary. No, no, no, no, no, it's like a movie scripted. Historically, I have done a pretty unbelievably bad job at paying attention to anything scripted. My wife really, this is kind of like the bane of her existence, is that I don't want to watch any movies with her. I only like things that are documentary. You guys suffer from this all. I do. Because I feel like all I really watch at this point in my life was probably 90% YouTube. Yeah. And it's tough for me as a creator too, because I want to get lost in the world and go watch a movie and be, you know, inspired creatively, but I just be watching like podcasts and clips of stuff. I really feel like I'm a YouTube junkie for real. For sure. But then I resent that about myself that I, you know, it's 11pm. I spent my whole day immersed in this sort of weird world I've created for myself where we're talking about rap and we're talking about street shit and maybe a sprinkling of, you know, of politics or like real world stuff or whatever. But it's like, then it's like 11pm. And it's like, why am I watching a Compton Rick Rock? For sure. Or in the comments about one of your videos. My way was all up on the Snoop album on one song. They're like, oh, I did hear that. I did see him in the studio with him. So I don't really like know how that necessarily played out, but shout out to him. Yeah. He'd be walking like the death row march and all that stuff. Yeah. It seemed like this was Snoop Dogg's like kind of GNX kind of like, you know, he was going to do the press run where he hits all the local guys trying to show love, put people on, you know, it was kind of almost reminded me more of like when Kanye sort of like transitioned from being the star of the show on every album to being like, oh, like this person's going to rap supporting cast this person's singing. And maybe I'm not even like really on this song or whatever. Like I feel like if I'm Snoop, I lean heavily into that because I like death row has been in his hands for many years now. I was just going to say this, it seems from my perspective to be an abject failure. Like what they have done nothing. They tried to sign a couple artists. They tried to send Snoopy badass for some reason. That didn't work out. It's kind of like if I'm Snoop and you want to make music or like develop this lineage, like sign artists and then sort of put them on these projects that you're putting together in person. You could put them out relatively frequently, but just make it so it's not just about like, oh, I'm Snoop Dogg and I'm rapping over beats. When you're 54, it's tough to do that. But if you could be the cool dude yelling over the song before Peezy starts rapping, and then maybe you got another couple good bangers that are really primarily based around you, but it's really good hooks that you probably didn't write and everything. I feel like that is the direction that could actually give Snoop more longevity because yes, we all are like so proud of Snoop and everything that he's built. But what people don't really like to mention is the fact that like musically, that hasn't really been a part of what he's built for a long time for like really nearly like 20 years. And that's what I thought was going to happen when he came out with the, you know, getting there for I thought he would like go out and seek out like new hot artists and bring them out into the back that it's years later. It still hasn't happened. It was like, well, what did you do this for? Just do it for the catalog or for that you could still rap? Just a brand of like that was a good move just in the for a moment right there. And then you just don't really care other than that. But there was a happy dad collab on the way. So yeah. But like, I can see like how you're talking like, you know, him doing some shit with like Savvy Third or something like that, you know, Snoop and introduced and this is a new long-bord DW plane. Yeah, like all of them bring these people in, give them a shot. And you know, like like Savvy Third, you don't need to sign them. Yeah, but give them a verse on your album because it'll lend some sort of like street cred to everything you have going on. It could help elevate their careers. It makes you look more like you're not not this new, but there's any problems in this regard, but it'll make Snoop look like someone who's really fixated and focused on building up more of the local community and the next generation. I think that's a good look because you don't necessarily like if you're a LA rapper, like where are you going to get a look? Who's going to put you on interviews? West Coast legends have kind of got that, you know, wrap of like, you guys don't help nobody, you guys reach out, you don't care about the new generation. And that's why people are kind of treating you bad as you age out of the game as well. Because you're not bringing on the new wave of talent. Yeah. No, that's a fact. All right, I feel like we've kind of done what we were supposed to do here. We had some fun. Yeah, good time for sure. Let us know how you feel about it. Canceled this week. Two hours. I mean, the Rosenberg podcast honestly like made me more confident. I was like, well, if we do an hour and 10 minutes, that's pretty fucking good. So I can't really see myself doing an hour long podcast on this for like really short on top is I'm so used to just getting on Twitter and digging in and like really trying to find many hours worth of stuff to talk about. I know we did two hours and none of us had to pull out videos of our families. Yeah, I know I didn't talk about that. Apologize into the Mexicans or say that. So it's like, yeah, we can go on forever. I remember this is the one last thing I want to talk about and I meant to bring it up during the Russell thing. But like with Ricky, Ricky actually got annexed from the group chat because okay, we're in the group chat. And Ricky is someone who repeatedly over the over the time that he's been part of the podcast, I've seen the fans saying that his takes suck. I personally feel like I've heard plenty of good tuna takes from Ricky in the sense of like, I feel like he has like a decent job. He has a decent ability to like latch on to a conversation and really be able to insert his perspective and be logical and reasonably well thought out. But he was basically in the group chat making it clear that his opinion is that anyone who is in any way disappointed or concerned with Gucci Mane for telling on Poussaisdi is basically an idiot and wasting their time because a lot of other rappers have told and therefore it is an absolute waste of time and it is just totally ridiculous to hold Gucci Mane to any sort of standard or to feel like it is hypocritical in any way. And it was like, no matter what I was saying to him, it just really seemed like he wasn't willing to let go of this take. And I feel like in the group chat, it's just not a place for you to have your worst take. I don't want to be in there because this was a huge problem with me and T-Rail during his time. I think this triggered him too. This is what really kind of reminded me of what it used to be like to be in the group chat with T-Rail where like, okay, the Will Smith and Chris Rock thing happens, which is obviously seismic news and the conversation starts progressing really rapidly. And very quickly, you're starting to like, you can kind of tell on social media and stuff who's got good takes, who's got interesting stuff to say about this. And then meanwhile, we had T-Rail in the group chat and his attitude is like, Will Smith didn't do anything wrong. If you say anything about my wife, I'll smack the shit out of you too. So he didn't do anything wrong. And actually, I think he should be celebrated for what he did. And like, you know, it's okay to like start there. But when everyone is really just like heaping contrarian opinions upon you and like really making good points that you seem intellectually unwilling to deal with, that's when my perspective is like, okay, I don't really want to be in a group chat all day where we're having like serious shit. It's just too dumb. It's like, you know, if you if you seem like you just like have a bad opinion and you're not willing to shape it at all, and hey, to his credit, Spodeyface, almost like the king of bad opinions on Tuesday. He doesn't really bring that to the group chat for the most part, you know, and Flocko is probably guilty of that as well, where he just sort of, he just says things that like are really just unfathomable. At least Flocko will kind of say it and disappear. Y'all removed him from the chat because of that though. That was that poor but take. Ricky got the boot. Ricky felt like that was a sign of his days that no jumper being numbered. Do you feel that way or do you feel like it's just strictly group chat? I think he's on probation because now it's making me really want to take more of a look at his takes on the news. Like really, maybe I need to spend more time looking at the news and really analyzing what he's bringing to that because his take on the Gucci main thing was just, it was just untenable. Because it wasn't just that it was that everybody that has all this energy needs to direct it back to Puscii because he's a dummy for doing this crime and doing it sloppily. And we should be focusing on that over Gucci. And I continue to debate Ricky in our group chat for our podcast once he left there because I'm the only one he has now. So I had to continue to debate him. Oh, that's gotta hurt because his group chat, he might not have curated too many other group chats that he's really able to get this experience. Yeah, yeah. It's not as exciting, but I definitely debated him continually and he was pivoted in a lot. And I think your examining of him is pretty correct. He's pretty on point most of the time. It's just he has these hills that he dies on. It's just so random. And I just, and I try to tell him like, if you're going to die on the hill, die on it, but you got to be researched. You got to have bullet points ready to fire off as someone challenges you. You can't just be like, this is how I feel and that's how I feel and that's how it's going to be. You have to like build your case. I mean, it's got to be like a debate. You got to look at it. And if you want to go that hard to where you're just not going to let go, you've got to have the more bullets in the gun. Yeah, especially having a take like that, where it is so flying in the face of everything that everybody is saying and hip-hop. And I love a contrarian. Exactly. I like it. But if you're going to have the contrarian opinion, you need to like sit with yourself and really work on your take and think about like, what am I going to say in the face of this? Because you're really telling me that one of the most gangster rappers of our lifetimes of all time should just be able to snitch and that the fans who are even interested in discussing it are somehow the ones in the wrong. And I feel like I'm not a person who's really trying to hold Gucci to the flames. I understand that Gucci's a old head and that he doesn't live this gangster life anymore and that everything is a little different for him at this point and whatever. Like, yeah, sure. All that's true. That is all true. And I'm not really like trying to like drag Gucci back to the Stone Age or anything like that. But I just don't, I don't think that that's like, that's an opinion that is so stupid that I just don't feel like it deserves airtime in the group chat, which is kind of the place where we're forming what the narratives that we're going to talk about over the course of the next couple of days is really taking place on average. Right. Yeah, I told him I'm not talking about it. We did a pod last night. I'm like, we did enough in the group chat, Ricky. That one's over. Be a great, so, you know, at least he's not still trying to die on it. But yeah, it was just kind of, yeah, Ricky definitely could just, you know, sort out his thoughts a little bit better. So when he comes to the table and wants to stand on that against Adam, because I feel like he prides on just, you know, pushing against, especially when that's the status quo opinion, but you got to have something a substance to work with. I would like to have that conversation with him. Maybe there will be some where we could do it like on the news this week or something, because I would like to get the fans involved in it. Because that's part of the problem is that it's like, if Spodeyface has an insane opinion, which he frequently does on the podcast, well, we're filling up the timeline, the people are watching, the people are presumably somewhat interested in this. So that provides some value. If you're going to have the most insane contrarian opinion in the group chat, there's really nobody benefiting from that. For the love of the game, maybe. Nobody's watching this. Yeah. This happened to listen to it. Which also, okay, it's important for us to know this, is that next week on Monday, number one, I have to do porn all day. So basically, we're going to be starting late. We're starting at like seven. Oh, yeah. Seven, thirty, maybe something like that. In addition to that, it is four, twenty. So we are going to be making it our mission to get as high as anyone has ever been on this podcast. Yes. Now, how long will that take? Like, will we get so high that like two hours in? I think that's probably what it'll be. We're all passed out. I think we should go like three, four hours. We should get as stoned as, I'm talking shrooms. I'm talking. We. So if I start eating edibles, they will see a version of me that they've never seen. That's what we want to see. Shrooms, I might have to say. But if we can have the conversations of just like, I'm going to get quiet and weird. I might cry. You know, that's like. Cry. But I definitely get weird. So I don't know. Maybe we could pull some of the Adderall out of Lush's asshole. Like, bring Lush in. We're getting tired. Yo, but I do think because Compa said that he wants to be part of it too, which by the way, how was your introduction to the Compa show? I like Compa. He went on the hike. Yeah, he was he's a super cool dude. I've seen his content before, but just meeting him in person. He's cool. But he doesn't smoke weed. So if he's on here on Monday with us, it's going to be cut. Yes, he said he's bringing a lot of weed and a lot of sushi if he comes on Monday. That was my seven point. He started with sushi. We're going to pick out as I'm saying, because like a reasonable amount of head of broccoli all over the table. A reasonable amount of sushi is great for the diet. That's like one of the healthier options you could have if you want to go out to eat. But the latter slamming man. No, he brings the platter. Yeah, it's like this semi circle right here. Like that is the family reunion platter. He's going to pull up for that. I know you are, but that's the problem. We get stoned and we eat sushi. What other podcasts is doing that? Oh, I don't know. I don't know. True. Yeah. Yeah, that's gonna be fun. I feel like we'll have some, we'll probably have some dope conversations that we wouldn't have if we wasn't that up. Well, also, it might be an opportunity for us to like maybe bring in some of our other hosts from the no jumper universe to maybe assist with letting us go long because, hey, I'm down to cancel my workout the next morning. So I can really get. Yeah, I'm over in that day. I'm gonna be trying to green out. I'm trying to throw up, you know, but that's the good thing about Compa too is he owns like a weed company. Exactly. So, shout out to Tresbeck. We begin half your free realistically. That's even better. There was a lot of a little fake friction between me and Compa. So the height kind of bonded us. Prime hit me and was like, oh, now Compa likes Moosa. Now all of a sudden I was like, whoa, I didn't know. And Compa was like, what's prime talking about? The whole food community is just like fucking. Slick hating each other. You know what I'm just gonna use them as the stand in for this type of content is it's giving Treven Keen. Oh, hey, come on our podcast. We want to ask you about a bunch of random people with 5,000 followers. You have no reason to think about it. We're going to ask you like about their pivoting now. They've been talking to me about it. I've been talking to them about it. We got to, you know, get them outside of the bubble and they're there. They're with it. They're with it for sure. They understand what I want on the food community is because I was like, listen, if I'm going to have them ask me about every minor podcast beef I've had over the past three years, I at least want my brain to be shown. Yeah. People was like, for real? You didn't want to do it that bad, fool? That was funny. What's the highest you would that you would say you've ever been in your life? What day could you be like? I was so stoned that day. Oh, well, I've got a bunch of memories, but they all rely on addables. We want to surpass that. No. All my highs weren't just weed. It's like I'm popping Zanz. I'm sipping drink, you know, that's the highest. That's the highest. That's huge. Yeah, I'm Juicy J for the day. Yeah, I took a fucking half a Zan and drank one ounce, one line of lean and smoked a blunder to was out of there. It's just I'm not even going to be like a podcaster anymore. I'm just going to be primacy at that point. I'm going to be mumbling in the studio. It'd be fun, but it's like this is 56 Zanz and they all crazy. Exactly. I'm not kicking the cup anytime soon. Wait, no, 56 nights. 56 nights. Yeah, but you might as well take 56 Zanz and 56 nights. No, I said I took 56 Zanz on a European tour and I'm still drinking. And the fact that he does, he wasn't doing that is disappointing. That did let me down when I found out you think so. And he's just playing it. You're getting loaded, man. Because Juicy J got me to Sip Lean. Juicy J got me wanting to pop pills and we's got me smoking weed, you know, so it's like I believe them for sure. I had a day in probably 2013 or 2014 where I was listening to Future and he made pop and Zanz sounds so cool that I drove to the valley and bought like 20 Zanz on some girl and then proceeded to go on a Zanz binge for the next week and got absolutely nothing done. It's sad to think about the fact that my podcast could have been significantly further along if I had not done that. But it shows you how powerful music is though. Yeah. Zanz are very powerful. Okay. Smash the like if you love Zanz shout out to everybody. We'll see you next week at seven or so PM. Make sure you tune in tomorrow. We'll see you next time. We'll see you next time. We'll see you next time. We'll see you next time. We'll see you next time. We'll see you next time. We'll see you next time. We'll see you next time. We'll see you next time. We'll see you next time. 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