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No, I don't think that's right This is our Thanksgiving episode so all night we're gonna try to out some truth stuff ourselves with romance and give our thanks At the traditional wheel just as the pilgrims did But first let's get into it what a week This week this was the week that Donald Trump finally became a lame duck president And to show you just how bad things have gotten for him. Let me just say that a different way Trump finally became a differently abled duck Cuz woke his back can't stop it It's fine Here's Kentucky Congressman Thomas Massey on Monday with a message for his fellow Republicans I would remind my Republican colleagues who are deciding how to vote Donald Trump can protect you in red districts right now by giving you an endorsement But in 2030 he's not gonna be the president and you will have voted to protect pedophiles If you don't vote to release these files the record of this vote will last longer than Donald Trump's presidency But Republicans don't think in years they live in the moment one Nazi group chat scandal at a time It's called it's called being present. They're alive Terrible but alive Republican members of congress are 100% kids that ate the marshmallow Then I'm saying Asking Republican politicians to think five years ahead is like trying to convince your dog to drop the raw Thanksgiving turkey a dragged off the countertop because it will give him a tummy ache later. This is not Loud noises and fears the way we get that turkey back Trump chide is best to keep Republicans in line he brought Colorado congressman Lauren bobert in for a meeting in the white house Situation room but couldn't bully her into removing her name from the Epstein petition the congressman said her hands were tied No, wait, I'm sorry. It says your hands were tired Trump even lost martyred Taylor green first the coat yeah first the coat kid minneke thurburne break up and now this all of our hottest blondes are in crisis Road Trump over the past few weeks despite my creating record achievements for our country all I see is wacky marjorie Complain complain complain added Trump and that's my thing Uh Continued the actual president she has told many people she is upset that I don't return her phone calls anymore But with 219 congressmen and women 53 US senators 24 cabinet members almost 200 countries and in otherwise normal life to live I can't take a Ranting lunatics call every day Yes, Trump's otherwise normal life of accepting cattari jets and screaming about the Epstein files while drinking enough Diet Coke to melt a horse skeleton Trump also threatened to support a primary challenge writing I understand that wonderful conservative people are thinking about primary Marjorie in her district of Georgia that they too are fed up with her in her antics and if the right person runs They will have my complete and unyielding support and so Trump raises the question we never thought to ask is there a worse person in Georgia Green said that Trump's online attacks had set off a wave of threats against her saying I am now being contacted by private security firms With warnings from my safety as a hotbed of threats against me are being fueled and egged on by the most powerful man in the world The man I supported and helped get elected babe You don't have to apologize to us. We've all been there you meet a charming guy All right, he winds and dinesy. You have the exact same taste in art, which is no art continued green as a Republican who overwhelmingly votes for president Trump's bills and agenda his aggression against me Which also fuels the venomous nature of his radical internet trolls many of whom are paid is completely shocking to everyone Trump turning on his allies Shocking said Mike Pence Reannacting January 6 with Karen and a length of rope and a twisted game that has reignited the fire in their marriage after 40 years By Sunday green and said she received a pipe bomb threat to her construction companies offices as well as fake pizza deliveries to her It's not delivery. It's de Proud boys Green also reflected on the broader lesson in all of this in an interview with CNN's Dana Bash We have seen these kinds of attacks or criticism from the president at other people It's not new and with respect I haven't heard you speak out about it until it was directed at you Dana, I think that's fear criticism and I would like to say humbly. I'm sorry for taking part in the toxic politics. It's it's very bad for our country Not to get ahead of ourselves here, but the second annual crooked con lineup is shaping up amazing With green and Trump on the rocks Maryland congressman Jamie Raskin suggested that Democrats tent had room for one more We are a big tent. We must be a huge vast tent. I say this is a party that's got room for marjorie Taylor green if she wants to come over We must build a tent so large it is in a front to god Our tent will be so big it contains all possible tents including itself And Trump's loss of cloud hasn't been limited to members of congress on Tuesday Indiana Senate Republicans voted to adjourn until January rather than bow to Trump's pressure to draw new congressional maps That's right. We can't rig the midterms. We're on break Less maps more in apps happy Thanksgiving Indiana Republicans Back in congress with dozens of haths Republicans set to defy him by voting to force the Justice Department to release the Epstein files Trump abruptly reversed course on Sunday night, which is tricky for him with his weird center of gravity With Trump's tacit approval of the bill there was a near unanimous vote in the House on Tuesday to pass the Epstein files transparency act the only holdout was a mysterious first term representative by the name of every Jeffstein The Senate the Senate unanimously voted to approve the House bill sending it to Trump's desk which he then signed and on Wednesday Attorney General Pam Bondi said that the Justice Department would follow the law and release its Epstein related files within 30 days. Okay So to juice Or sitting by the beach of Miami What brings you to Florida? I asked one. Oh my business burned down and we decided to take the insurance money and retire What about you our family business was destroyed by a flood and so we took the insurance money and decided to retire Huh said the first old you how do you start a flood Trump is going to burn the FBI to the ground Point is Trump is a lame duck But the more it looks like his power over Republicans is slipping the more we'll have to worry about how he deals with feeling cornered and weak It was true after he lost in 2020 and it is true today Trump is now threatening war with Venezuela after 21 lawless military strikes on boats that have murdered at least 83 people Trump enacted operations southern spear the largest accumulation of US forces in the Caribbean since the Cuban missile crisis Trump announced that he was deploying two battle carriers three US nuclear submarines and a whopping 22,000 pages of Epstein files directly Into the Caribbean sea And Secretary of State Margarubio so the US would designate cartel de los solos in Venezuela as a foreign terrorist organization Being in a crime for anyone in the US to provide support to the group. There is a problem cartel de los solos is in an actual organization that exists It's a joky term that Venezuelan journalist used to refer to military officials who take bribes It's a vague reference to no actual group or structure like Antifa or the itty bitty titty committee It's not that far from Trump declaring war on a case of the Mondays And he's not just agitating for war. He's seeking refuge in his corrupt dealings with foreign autocrats Here's Trump at the White House with Saudi crown prince and guy who likes to show people is asked in Martin Valkyrie But can't let anyone see what it actually looks like for him to get in or out of one Muhammad bin Salman on Tuesday We've been really good friends for a long period of time. We've always been on the same side of every issue It's super awkward because MBS is clearly Trump's best friend, but Trump is not MBS's best friend When bin Salman was asked about the murder of Jamal Kashoggi, which the CIA concluded he ordered Trump attack the reporter for bringing it up You're mentioning somebody that was extremely controversial a lot of people didn't like that gentleman that you're talking about Whether you like him or didn't like him things happen, but he knew nothing about it And we can leave it at that you don't have to embarrass our guest by asking a question like that First of all things happen One moment you're a luring in journalist to the Saudi consulate in Istanbul to obtain paperwork He needs to get legally married and the next a team of 15 Saudi operatives including people with close ties to the crown prince Are debating whether it's more suspicious to leave with 10 small duffle bags or three big ones because things happen Also embarrass our guest bitch. He's not our guest. He's your guest and he's not your guest He's our country's guest which makes him our guest So it's your house when it's time to build the ballrooms and do the corrupt real estate deals within the cameras are rolling And it's back to being our house again And you're right a question about Mohammed bin Salman's complicity in the killing of Jamal Kashoggi does cast a poll over your dinner party But it was always going to be tense when you brought the journalist in for the meeting with the infamous journalist murderer The problem isn't that it's embarrassing to bring it up the problem is that you aren't embarrassed all the other times And as Trump's political nakedness comes into view Democrats are making sure the room is as cold as possible Rohkana helped divide Republicans over Epstein We won the debate over health care in the shuntown and as Trump threatens to deploy the military to more American cities Democratic lawmakers made a video reminding members of America's armed forces that they do not have to obey Illegal orders from the Trump administration It's the kind of video you wish you didn't have to make like a hostage video or an apology for having your wedding at a plantation This administration is pitting our uniform military and intelligence community professionals against American citizens Like us you all sworn oath Right now the threats to our constitution aren't just coming from a broad but from right here at home our laws are clear You can refuse illegal orders Hell yeah Much like alpha burr refused to go along with the illegal orders of the wizard at a Jeff Goldloom The wicked promo campaign is out of fucking control how to get into this thing The video ends with the phrase don't give up the ship a reference to the last words of captain James Lawrence To the USS Chesapeake as shared by his dear friend Commodore Oliver hazard Perry who kindly omitted his actual last words Awie awie awie It's of course a statement a fact service members must file lawful orders and refuse unlawful ones Surely Trump knows and appreciates this and he's not gonna say we should kill anybody over it Oh, I'm sorry Trump on Thursday went on quite a murderous posting spree describing the video as seditious behavior punishable By death Each one of these traders to our country should be arrested and put on trial Trump said you got it Sir said Trump's favorite prosecutor Lindsey Halligan cracking your knuckles and typing trial into wiki how Chup also reposted a message encouraging trump to hang them as George Washington would George Washington was involved with the hanging of one of his bodyguards Thomas Hickey for a muni and sedition And I just want to read Washington's warning about his death In order to avoid these crimes the most certain method is to keep out the temptation of them particularly to avoid Lude women who by the dying confession of this poor criminal first led him into the practices Which ended in his untimely and ignominous death? Good advice then good advice now The senators and members of congress posted a joint statement in response to Trump's threats writing what's most telling is that the president considers it Punishable by death for us to restate the law our service members should know that we have their backs as they fulfill Their oath to the constitution and obligation to follow only lawful orders your move mr President that AI video you're dreaming up where a shirtless version of you with rippling abs kick senators into a giant pit filled with Trans immigrants while yelling this is sparta isn't gonna generate itself Trump's a joke he's also a threat and both will become more true in the months ahead look at what he said at the bipartisan McDonald's impact summit Because no matter who you are everyone loves Something at McDonald's is always something to have I like the fish. I like it You could do a little bit more taught or so, so please seriously I hate one. I said you have any taught or so Did you understand that yes, he had to say that first You can't choose how you learn you weren't invited to the McDonald's impact summit But every way hurts the same Also you may love the filet of fish the fish delight as Trump calls it or you may hate it But I can't imagine the flavor engineers at McDonald's figuring out a way to get more tartar sauce onto that Cursed fucking sandwich That is that is insane It's like a baseball size scoop of tartar sauce if you eat one behind the wheel of your car You have to get a new car And this sick freak asked for extra this bottomless well of need and I just want to say two McDonald's You do not have to follow this order. It is it is not his McDonald's. It is ours. Don't give up the ship All right, we'll leave it there Coming up it's Hayley Kioca Timothy Simons and Pat Regan Hey Don't go anywhere. 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I am saying thank you to haley for saying thank you for having it Thank you for being here. Thank you so much Didn't thank you Pat of course. I'm here to help I haven't said if I'm happy to be here or yeah, we'll find out I'm just gonna see how the first like five or six minutes goes and then i'll weigh in okay, okay Hey With Thanksgiving coming up we thought what better use of our three stars Thank you one person Thank you To help our listeners emotionally prepare for all the shonkingly blunt questions that they'll be peppered with over the dinner table on a segment We're calling the turkey of truth you can't handle the truth Here's how it works Oh, here's the turkey of truth Oh my gosh Wow Easy to please the turkey got so many such a bigger response than when you said stars They're excited to see the egg again because they never know what the egg will bring but it's it's a turkey right now All right first question hey Timothy. I see you've been sporting a foe hawk lately. Where'd you get that idea? Is that a question that's gonna come up at Thanksgiving? Yeah, okay Um the the the honest answer is I think I started doing it before Paul messicle so everybody calls it the Paul messicle But I think they should call it the Tim Simons I had Paul messicle would get a much bigger response if here and I understand that and that's okay, but I think I just um I asked the person who cuts my hair. I was like can you I don't exactly know what I mean by this But can you give me like an elevated methamphetamine? And then they did that and I was like this is great and then somebody wrote a thing about it GQ. Oh my god Yeah, they like you were like on the carpet too my hair stylist I had no idea this was happening and then just somebody was like hey here's an article about your hair That's unbelievable. Wow, that was a good run of the foe hawk next Do it elevated methamphetamine Did you like the reception to it? I have yeah They actually said something in an article about my hair that was like Like I had never met this person and I was and it sounded like they were my therapist They described me so well But I like sent it to my wife and I was like did you talk to them? But how did you know you want to me wanted something so adventurous? I like methamphetamine I think I was just kind of sick. This is a very supportive Thanksgiving so far I really like this. I think it was just I was sick of my hairstyle and just wanted to do it It just wasn't wanted to do something. Yeah, I always say when I sit down in the chair. What do you say normal gay haircut? I say I want a normal gay haircut. Make me look at the ones normal gay person you can imagine Or second charm Do you think yeah It looks really good. Thank you. Yeah, I think a median gay haircut Awesome totally right down the middle. Yeah Haley oh gosh This when do you think we'll be getting new music? Oh That's thank you for asking that Thanksgiving dinner. Yeah, that's right Soon really It's so funny. It's like as an artist you you do one thing and then the first thing someone to ask is when are you gonna do more? You know anything and so You know But yeah, soon like maybe next year maybe next year. Yeah. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you for For being here on my journey So supportive thank you. I just want to say real quick. I'm really happy to be here We got him. We got him. We got him. We got it Pat is there a family member that would genuinely hurt your feelings if they didn't Uh consume your work No, most of them. I'm like so scared they would consume that You Like I just because I'm like, you know, I like um Like because I mentioned like concepts of like concepts dealing with gay sex on my podcast I'm like if anyone I'm related to listen to this I will set myself on fire Joining me in because I was raised right I was raising a barn talking about sex on air What is so I sometimes I know that the people closest to me can listen to this few do like I know They could and I know that strangers listen to this That's great the people that I sometimes it's the it's the um The medium group like the kind of acquaintances or people from my life that I don't see or talk to any like that is the thing that sometimes Oh my god They could hear this well I suffer from a disease where as soon as I start recording my podcast I My memories start my brain stops forming memories So I don't remember a single thing I say on that thing yeah random people come up and like mention something I said I'm like I would never say that I'd be humiliating to say that'd be a humiliating thing to say on your podcast But I did say it and now they know it and they're asking me about it in line for coffee Isn't that terrible people are feeling bad for me, but I'm being like a beaten stuff Yeah You know what I mean? Yeah, don't ever feel bad for me Seriously you guys Especially with everything I have going on everything I have coming on the pike it's crazy. Yeah it's It's happening We're Pat right now the free one I'm getting be mad because you're jealous. Don't be sad because he's sad Tole he's not sad that if you think he's sad that's wrong This week Trump told the McDonald's summit that he wants extra tartar sauce on his filet of fish Um, do you agree that we shouldn't be ashamed if we like extra sauce. This is a question for anybody Which disgusting thing would you publicly demand if you were president? I first of all I will say like this is By partisan but like no one should be ashamed of any relationship they have with sauce Because like we all come in Sosses sauce and it's nature, but it's also nurture and it's like we can't always control How we feel about a sauce and there's no reason to feel shame about that So yeah, beautiful I'm gonna Very subtly push back on this. Okay. I think the extra tartar sauce thing is fine I think that's lower down on my list of things that I would bring up if we were to meet And I and I think I broadly agree with you about the sauce But I do think the ketchup on the on the nice steak thing is bad. I think that's bad That is that is does make me upset when I hear about it. That is so classist It's not I'm sorry. I can't be on stage of classism is happening. So I may have to leave for the night if classism does continue on stage Especially if it's being recorded and stuff um, I think that is it is it because he's wearing the monocle or I just I was going to a live show. I needed to wear my monocle. That's not that's just what you do People have also socioeconomics that it's as neat as see out of one eye. So So I agree with That about the sauce about the ketchup specifically on the steak and I because Ketchup you're a bougie mother fucker. Yeah, I'm just a classist apparently 100 per say first of all yes But like here's my thing about it ketchup is It is very sweet. It is very salty. It is very like it has it just like it's a wall of flavor And basically ketchup makes every food kind of like dessert like a little bit like that's what the sweet does Just a little bit to me it's so the opposite but I'm sorry. I mean, I don't like ketchup Just I'll just say that right now. I got I'll tell you something and you know what you know what you come at me with your allegations of Classism uh raise your hand if you had a McDouble on your way here So you had it did you have a McDouble with no ketchup on it? I had a McDouble dry. Oh That's that's tough to hear It's because I'm driving It's because I'm driving that is a part of it, but also I don't need it I don't need the mustard. I don't need the ketchup. Well mustard psychotic. Well, it's on there. It's on there I say it's onions to me onions and pickles. That's it. That's it. That's all you need That's all you need hailey kioco All right, you know what we're gonna kick it up a notch Timothy do you get typecast as a complete prick since you played such a good one on Veepe? I would the honest answer is No, but the weirdest thing is that the shit that I get asked to audition for Is essentially a photocopy of the things that I have done before and all the stuff that I get offered is the stuff that is the exact opposite It's the weirdest thing or it's like oh here's like a dickhead that nobody likes that says sexually inappropriate things in an office We're we're gonna need to see you read for that And and I'll be like I don't know what else I can do To prove to you that I can do that and all of the stuff where it's like oh this is it nothing like anything you've ever done We've never seen this do you want to just come in and do it Pat You wrote an episode of nobody wants this in which Timothy stars Uh Did he did he do a good job saying the words you wrote totally though I will say did not Watch the piece but I will never watch I couldn't go back for season two because of a different job And so I first some reason I can't watch shows I work on unless I um And unless I know I'm going back for the next season in which case I hardly watched him like a homework assignment the night before the writer's room starts Um, so I would imagine he did because um He was brought back for the second season and they didn't recast and there was a lot of talk of like if that role is not working Well definitely just recast for season two and so a lot of talk about that When I saw him in the cellover season two they invited me on those zoom calls. Yeah, it was that's Tollywood is mean. I would just pretty easy joking around. We're just joking around That was it I was playing up that yeah, I was playing that up for effect and I was lying. I was lying. I was telling a lie What an interesting person you are Pat really do you think so you don't watch the things you've worked on well because it's a weird I mean if you want to be serious It's like it's a weird we were just we're talking about then the fact that we didn't work together because it's like Right now and in the TV world. It's very rare for writers to be on set whereas like in the network days That was they were the writers and actors were always working together So it's a strange thing where it's like your entire life for like 10 to 20 weeks and you put so much of yourself into it And then you completely let it go and then when you see it It's like this strange feeling where so many hands have touched it since you like long since you left it But your name is on it and it just feels strange for some reason huh? Do you know what I mean? Yeah Everyone's crying Hey, you're new book where there's room for us is your second romance novel about women being in love with each other Yes, that's correct. Safic Safic Safic Safic Safic Here's the book There she is Thank you guys you also wrote a book called girls like girls. I did the theme between the two. That's also Safic Yeah, and making and girls can fall in love with each other Yes, they can wow If you allow yourself to dream. Yeah, that's so cool. You can be who you want to be wow Yes, and they're not just sort of and and and no lesbians die and either books That's cool. Yes, it's an absolute phenomenon. What? I haven't read the books yet, but eventually all lesbians will die. Yeah, like everybody dies like eventually they will die I don't agree that lesbians are immortal. I'm sorry Yeah, I think you're I think you're humans like you and I don't want anyone to change that I don't want them to die I'm just saying eventually they will yeah, they'll pass they'll pass on thanks. Tim. I'm sorry And they just fall in love with each other in the book Yeah, well, it's in spite my fiance who you met back at a soccer game. Uh-huh women's soccer game. Woo-hoo Uh, when I met her she was trying to hook me up with her younger sister Because she hadn't dated women at the time and so she sent me up with a younger sister Her younger sister bailed so she felt bad for me so she went instead And she didn't look at a blue elephant, but she went and said and we've been together for seven and a half years And so that was the Inspiration for me to kind of tell our story through the lens of a period piece Do you think it's like we had to go through the Bourn this way phase of like gay rights? Yeah And it was a great phase and produce some great art But you do hear these stories It does seem that like like the kind of whole Bourn this way moment in our politics was a About more male experience of sexual orientation And then be kind of a way to kind of convince people kind of persuade people to be for it But there is something so um There's something so like bereft in like you have to support their being gay they couldn't help it And it's like couldn't help it. Well, that's not argument for something I mean, I couldn't and wouldn't but like still it's better than couldn't help it And I like that we're past the couldn't help it. Yeah, we're They got you got to get them up gonna get married. They couldn't help it that sucks You know, and I'm kind of glad we're past that because I do think especially for women It is more complicated than that, but that doesn't mean Anything less about the relationship totally. Yeah, and I I agree with you I feel like for me. I don't really have a lot of that representation growing up and like even being like engaged people were like When's the wedding? What is it gonna look like? I was like well, I grew up not being able to Be legally married. So this is an exciting time for me. Yeah, wait. Yeah, I don't know You're you're currently engaged. Yeah. Oh my god. Wow. When's the wedding? What's it gonna be like? I don't know we'll be right back Oh Hey, don't go anywhere. There's more of love it or leave it coming up Love or leave it is brought to you by or a frame It's very rare that a gift can keep a family connected Even when your mouth apart. That's why or a frame makes the perfect gift to give those long distance loved ones You could put a bunch of photos and a frame and send it to your family And then it's sitting on the shelf and then your mother doesn't say things like it's been a long time since Thanksgiving Kind of a thing. Mm-hmm. 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It's exclusive black Friday cyber Monday deal is the best of the years to order now before it ends Support the show by mentioning us at checkout terms and conditions apply Hey And we're back Hey, Leigh you have a brand new queer romance novel and stores called where there's room for us as we discussed yes Hat and Timothy you both worked on Netflix is nobody wants this romantic show about falling in love with Adam Brody Uh, which I did in the early aughts while watching the OC Anyway, I'd like to call upon your collective powers to answer our audience's questions about holiday romance and a segment we're calling Surely somebody wants this Here's how works we want to hear your questions about burning love in the season of freezing toes Is it better to break up before the holidays or drop the hammer afterwards? Is it cute to hide an engagement ring and a piece of cake or is that simply a disgusting choking hazard? If you have a question for our guests, please raise your hand and our producer will find you with the microphone Oh, we're opening it up. Oh my god. We're being mobbed. We're being mobbed. They're storming the stage Oh god. I hope I survived this. Hi Hi Okay, my question I am here with my girlfriend. I'm going to her family's house So this is the second Thanksgiving. I've been at her family's house number two What do you think are the big goals I need to be reaching for the second Thanksgiving meeting the parents? Well, how did the first Thanksgiving like where we at on the the meter here? I think I've the first things going well first things giving went well um I I can always do better and be better. So why is it on you? Wow, wow But I just think that's my job as the guest. I'm here to and as the partner I'm here to prove my worth every time. Oh, I don't think you need to prove your worth. Oh my gosh. Yeah Wow I'm being honest. I Don't need to it's I don't know your situation. I don't know what the family dynamics are So sorry. I just took it. No good. No. Yeah, I just I want yeah, I hear I am. I'm already in it um I don't know this such scenario, but I'm assuming it went well enough to go back No, it went very well. I that's good. Well, right? I mean listen Most people don't even get to that step, you know Celebrating Thanksgiving with with you know both families. So I think This is an amazing situation, but I feel like you should just be yourself You do not need to prove your worth ever Um, well that can be true. Well Depending on you with it But if you guys love each other then like that's that's all you need so I don't know Do not need to prove yourself, but you're doing great number two But I what I'll say is if you want to prove yourself Yeah My my bad um one thing that happened to me one time was I was dating this by guy and um He had just got out of like a 10-year relationship with a woman his and he was bringing me home his mom was Devastated wouldn't leave her room and then for like the first three trips But then She actually couldn't figure out how to get to Disney plus on her TV, but she was entitled to it and she mentioned it And then I helped her get Disney plus on her TV and then it literally was like a huge win for like gay rights Wow So like if you can get a streaming service that they were struggling with onto their TV It will be good for you. I promise. Oh, hi Um, I've heard that um people learn from each other's mistakes So what's your like worst holiday romance mistake that you made that we could learn from? Oh, I uh My college girlfriend I accidentally told her little brother that Santa Claus wasn't real oh And the dude like looked at me and then just like doe I'd looked at his parents There was like a slow head turn to his parents and I had to make up some shit about like oh, it's just because he died in my heart But he's alive And the dad and that family did not like me at all like to begin with and I think that was really that would I think be the worst thing that I ever did on a Yeah, that's pretty bad. I think that's pretty bad. Yeah Can't really top that He's gonna find out too. I know I'm gonna find out sooner or later I think the parents would have preferred later. Right. Yeah, I find the like I jet look as a as a as a Jewish person I find the whole Santa thing deeply strange. I just I don't I you know I don't but I don't begrudge anyone their culture, but for me, it's like I Why introduced the lie because at some point they find out it's not true And so it just seems like a strange kind of moment in childhood where you find out everyone's been pretending But it seems like I don't get I find it strange. I absolutely see your point I do think there is something cool about like oh shit can just be magical sometimes You know what I mean like yeah like allowing like I know magic isn't real But I love it when a magician comes up and makes a card appear in my hand And I'm like holy fuck magic is really you know what I mean There's like a fun thing about and you also get gifts in a way where it's like guiltless Do you know what I mean? You're like oh no one's meant money on this like so like it's okay It's okay. You're not like you don't have sometimes you'll feel like guilt forgetting a gift Like you don't have that it's just like this is just free money. You know what I mean? Oh, we have a question that was submitted uh Should I wake wait to break up with my partner until after the holidays or just drop the bomb now and get it over with I actually have experience with this as I was once dumped on Amazon Prime Day I was once dumped on Amazon Prime Day Wow I was dumped on Amazon Prime Day and it's like don't dump someone on a day that's gonna happen every year And then they're gonna get emails about you know The body will remember It will oh I hate to tell you it will have kept score. Yeah But I think like I actually still think do it before I mean don't do it on don't do it on christmas. I would do it before Yeah, I would also do it before because anyway because then at least they have the thing of like That thing that's so special life for your life kind of feels like a movie where it's like you kind of know what role you're playing Where it's like oh it's Christmas and I'm dumped you don't even yeah That's funer than being like I'm not sure what role I'm in and I think I'm in a relationship But clearly this person hates me you know name you and you just bought them gifts totally right and you can't return them. Yeah, yeah So better I when I got engaged or I guess a few weeks before I got engaged I bought the ring at this place in downtown Chicago and the woman right as I was leaving Her advice to me was oh don't give this to your Beloved on On her birthday or Christmas because then if it doesn't work out She can just claim it was a gift for that day. Oh my god, and you won't get it back That was gonna walk out So anyway, I just wanted to throw that in did y'all do rings? Yeah, we did yeah, well, I haven't got mine yet She's gonna prove I proposed to her this year and then she's gonna propose to me. Oh, okay Yeah, you know, and no But it's kind of harder to be second because like I I've learned through this process. I'm terrible at like waiting for a surprise. Yeah, so I'm like totally Like and I'm my cortisol levels are up. So I really didn't think this through hell. Yeah, my cortisol levels. Yeah, what are they? What are they? So there was an article in the New Yorker by a professor who was in a deeply troubling thruple and what she said was in her relationship She was romantic but not considerate and her partner was considerate but not romantic. Oh, wow And I do think in couples there's the romantic one and the considerate one which one do you think you are? Oh my gosh And they're both I know they're better. We're considerate one I think I would like to think that I am considerate at times Um, and I feel like I was considerate with her But I would say when I think of us she would be the considerate one Yes, and also the romantic one so I actually don't know what I'm bringing to the table. Hey come on At this point. Well, do you like to do surprises? Do you like um no? So she she's the surpriseer. She's the prankster She's the considerator Do you cook? Um, I can make like three meals. Okay All right. All right. All right I really don't know what I offer stop it. Well, no, you can't ask me about words Yeah, look, I'm worthy but like the considerate and romantic part I think she gets both of them Interesting. Yeah, but I'll think of something that I I can offer. I think What do you think? What do you think? I don't know for so much. Yeah, you're for so much. Thank you so much. I'm really funny. What's it? Or just wow see I think you are I can tell you are considerate just by chatting Don't make me cry. I can tell you romantic where you've been treating me all night. Oh my gosh. I have been I have been very romantic to Pat. I've been basically getting full of love. I've been laughing at all of his jokes It's been nice to consider it That is considered that was considered. I'm a you know what I am. I'm a giver. You are a giver. Um All right, leave it right back Hey, don't go anywhere. There's more of love that are leave it coming up Love to leave it is brought to you by bombas this time of year It's sensory overload everywhere But one feeling we're still chasing cozy and bombas has the sock slippers and basically everything to get you there I'll tell you a personal story. I'm gonna skip all this Copy to tell you something from the heart Which is I was just traveling for a week. 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We're on substag YouTube app. All everywhere spotify So please sign up help us build this company Help us support progressive media and grow really really appreciate it that genuinely helps us So thank you for doing that and also there'll be another episode of Bravo America in your feeds on Tuesday December 2nd With our special guest Rachel Lindsey from the bachelorette wow. That's huge. That's huge. It's time For game we're calling wheelie wheelie grateful That's where you spin the wheel on then when it lands on you say something you talk about something you're grateful for It's as simple as that It's gonna be hard for Pat to choose because he has so many wonderful things happening This is crazy and that's so cool about Pat that's something I'm grateful for to be in the presence of someone at their at their at such a at such an apex At their apex. Yeah, it's wild to be at my apex. It's wild to be at my apex At the peak at the peak let's spin it No, I literally didn't want to go first. I literally didn't want to go first y'all I will say like my you know, I broke the I get my hair cut in a fellow and like I usually try to get like They rank all their people you know, but they rank all their people and I never go under a senior barber 3 Because it can get scary and weird But then I just needed one really quick senior barber 3 And but I was like, you know what there's none available. I'm gonna have to go with a senior barber 2 I had this woman is meania who gave me the best haircut ever gotten don't look at I don't know Everyone's like huh But I just liked it and she was like so sweet and she was like truly I now identify as her being like a mother figure to me and we spent like an hour which is too long Like I'm kind of like in and out in an owl like but with this meania it just it different and so I'm grateful for her I'm grateful for her and it's this haircut is this haircut cool Beautiful It was kind of Tim coded and then it was like the last time I went I go in last time I go I just want a normal gay haircut. He goes okay. Like what do you think something Berlin? I'm like huh he goes Berlin, but he goes he starts to look at us when he goes to me This is Berlin. I'm like why are we negotiating what's Berlin? I'm not saying Berlin. I don't want Berlin I'm like I want to crew cut But as meania it wasn't like that she got it straight away Wow, thank you so much for sharing Let's spin it again Hey, Le what's up in there you're grateful for I don't have anything funny to say I'm just gonna speak from the heart. Please do I'm grateful for my fiance I'm grateful for my fans and I'm grateful for the rain We needed rain Did we did we need it? I don't know when we needed or not. We always need it. We have a good idea We always need it. Yes. Okay, then great the hills are a little greener. You know I love I'm an area science I'm a fire so anytime like there's water around me I feel a piece So that's where I'm at right now. Let's spin it again I I've been so nervous about this ever since we started Why are grateful for I will know I feel like I have a lot to be grateful for um I Well, my kids I think are good people or they're turning into good people Everything broadly I think is going Okay, well not broadly. I would say most things are in bad But I can think in my little area. I can point to a few things and be like okay. We're on the right track here um But I can't think of anything like super funny But so like the one thing that I can think of is that like I I grew up In a very small town and I found like like movies were always like a big thing for me It's why I came out here. I just always loved them my first job was working in a video store and I one thing that I like really kind of love is And I know we're in the town for it, but like the rap scene of movie going like a community that is like Coming up around movie going and actually going to movie theaters especially from like younger people who Probably grew up where everything was just available at home or like They're developing a love for like a communal experience of going to see these things I think that's really cool and I think it I think we I think broadly we all miss that I think the world is better when we all go to a movie theater we go to a theater and so I like that There has been like Like a return to that in a like a conscious way Shit, I'm glad that went over really well And I feel like the dome is coming back. It's slow, but their dome may come back And I don't know what's going on with the rest of the arc light, but I think it's bullshit Then that's just been shuttered for years sucks There was somebody Made this point that you should treat going to the movies like you treat going to the gym Which is that like just go once a week Because you feel better after every time like well, that's expensive so is the gym you do it because you feel good Even if the movie is not that even if you don't love the movie. It's a great experience like of course that makes sense Get out leave your fucking house. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, leave your fucking house I agree with that. I like that. I like that Let's spin it again again. I wonder who it's gonna be It is landed on it is landed on me and I just first want to say that I'm Grateful for Pat. Thank you. And it shows seek treatment. Thank you. Which everybody should check out Yes And a new season of hacks. Thank you Oh, Shes, someone just yelled shut up Um, you know There's something that's happened this week that that that reminded me of something that I think it's easy to lose sight of And I do feel gratitude about it which is We're constantly inundated with the ways in which Like democracy itself is is weak to the authoritarian impulse that we see in Trump and all the people around it We see kind of Corvording crypto tycoons and other nefarious Trump allies like basically, you know Flouting their corruption right in front of us It feels like our institutions aren't doing their job and that's all true But I I think sometimes in the face of all this it can be easy to lose sight of what are I think two important truths about People and what happens when they have governments one is that authoritarianism always looks stronger than it is and democracy always looks weaker than it is and What we've seen in just like the past couple of weeks is no matter how much there is a desire for Control on the part of someone like Trump and the people around who no matter how Craven are the people willing to go along with it or hide ideological are the people who genuinely believe it people are people and the cracks Will show and because it's a system not rooted in collaboration and Understanding the human beings are flawed, but worthy of dignity and respect and and having their judgment Heard and being curious about others because that is not included in how they govern it is weak In the face of those kinds of fissures and all of a sudden a fissure will form and then boom Trump goes from having Near unanimity protecting him from releasing the Epstein files to losing every single person in a single week He goes from talking about flirting with being in office For another term to being fully disregarded by members of owner here their zone party and and someone getting votes by reminding people that he will soon Be off the scene and like that truth. I think is sometimes easy to overlook and we sometimes I think are too bashful and insecure about democracy's strengths and just the fact that America is a giant complicated Ungovernable group of rebellious people and we are not easily ruled and will not be and so anytime Trump is threatening to deploy the military to our cities That is scary and that is very bad or or any Trump Trump is abusing his power or corrupting his power or using the pardon power to encourage some of the worst people who have had his back to do more kind of nefarious and dangerous things like that's all very scary It can have terrible consequences But we have a lot on our side and we shouldn't lose sight of that and we shouldn't be afraid to say unequivocally like that his plan will not work because It won't and I would rather be have us saying that with confidence Rather than worry that this is going to be thrown in our faces if we ever were to lose like what what are we afraid of We should just be confident in it and I think what we've seen the last just literally last week It's it's going to be hard. It's going to be bad. There's going to be losses There was going to be terrible things that happen. It's not a guarantee But I just want us to go into the next year into the midterms and beyond remembering that that we have a lot going for us And we are more powerful than they are and I felt grateful this week to be reminded of that and how the news was unfolding ahead of us and I think that is not mine about movies was also pretty good Yes That's our show where those root for us is out now nobody wants us is out seek treatment you can get it Yeah, I'm more ever you get your podcast I ever get your podcast hacks heard of it. 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