The Issues Moving Gen Z And Maryland’s Breaking Point

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The Charlie Kirk show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold, the leading gold and silver experts, and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends, and viewers. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show. Our two is underway. And we do these segments from time to time because you guys love them. We get so much positive feedback about them. And I think it's really important to involve the students that are out the front lines. They're the tip of the spear on their college and high school campuses. So we want to hear from them. And I think for you and the audience, it's a really important learning opportunity to hear directly from our students. So today we have Leona Salinas from Texas State. She's a chapter president there at Texas State. Welcome, Leona. And then we have Ben Mason, Providence Academy Club America chapter president. So we got a high schooler and a college student as well. Leona and Ben, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for having me, Andrew. And Blake, I really appreciate this opportunity. Absolutely. Yes. Thank you very much for having us. Yeah. Absolutely. First thing to open with. Did you guys watch the All-American Half-Time show? Of course. And it was just a marvel to watch. I mean, I really appreciated how they made it. I'm just going to be blunt American. I mean, this was our nation's Cess Quintenial. Right? 250 years of everything that has made America great and free. And the fact that some people had issue with that, I think is just outrageous. I love how they made it just have American values and just spread of Christchew and through with Robert Richie and what he said about just in the till till you can't I think it's a song or till I can't. And just how they made the song about like God and of how like chasing him in Christ. And as a Christian country, that's what we should pursue, not what the normal half-time show was going like. Yeah. Well, and I love that part that you're talking about. It's like till you can't is the clip. I want to. Yeah. So this is the clip 222. Get it ready. So he it was a hit song that he's actually doing a cover of and that God woke him up in the middle of the night and said. There's one more verse that needs to be written for this song 222. There's a book that's sitting in your house somewhere that could use some dust and off. There's a man who died for all our sins. The hanging from the cross. You can give your life to Jesus and you can give you a second chance till you can't. A really beautiful moment there. Absolutely. So did you hear your friends talking about it or is this just because you guys were connected to turning point that you heard about it? I mean, there I couldn't turn to a place whether in social media or in person where someone wasn't talking about it. This seems to be taking over our nation right now. And I feel like as it should be because these are conversations that we should be having. And essentially in comparison to bad bunnies. I think I think the representation and the symbolism that we carried in our halftime show and are all American halftime show. We're absolutely everything that represents the NFL's key demographic and the fact that it was just the biggest day in American sports. Yeah, people don't realize this. It's actually the biggest social media day as well. I mean, that's not surprising. We heard that from our reps at YouTube and at X. And so it's like, I mean, it's just a ton of people. It has to be that or an election. Just everyone has to react to every clip of this or that. Well, even on a very boring game like that one. It was terrible game. Terrible. Can't be said enough. Can't be said enough. What about you? Ben. Did you hear people talking about it? Did we cut through the side? Yes, they did. They loved it. They loved watching the American side of the halftime show more than the bad bunny. Whenever we heard about bad bunny going on, we're just like, hey, why is this guy going on here when he doesn't even speak English. He's promoting Puerto Rico and just wanting that culture a lot more and says that he won't have English in his music, which is crazy. And it was just super shocking for most students in my school. And because of that, they were just so excited to have where they can have incorporate American values into the song through having turning point USA make their own. And something where it's not because we can see in the NFL that they're just like they become so woke. 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So each of you in turn, maybe Ben first, just what are, when it comes to political issues, what is resonating with people at your school, how are they reacting to what's been in the news maybe with ICE, with affordability issues, any AI, any of that stuff. What are they talking about as we go into this midterm year? And you can be honest, if some of them are disappointed in the president or whatever, we wanna know that. Yeah, so as we're going in the midterms, the conservatives on my school and how they're feeling with them like main issues would be just the immigration enforcement, it needs to be bipartisan. It has to be a bipartisan issue because there's just so much polarization between the Democrats and the Republicans and the Democrats don't want the bill and don't wanna have the AES code 1325, they don't wanna kick out the people that are illegally here. And we need that to happen because of all the horrible things that come from having illegals here and they're coming here illegally, they're committing crimes and Democrats need to start getting on the boat with that and wanting that too because if they don't, in the next four years or next two years actually, we're gonna see in 2028, if the Democrats win the election, they're gonna completely change that and it's gonna be a place where we're gonna have illegals coming back into the country like we've seen in Biden's term, where there was about 10 million illegals that came across the border and we need that to change and we need people like Tim Wolts and Jacob Frey who are attempting subvert the will of the people, we need them to stop spreading their false rhetoric and just commenting on the ICE and saying that they're like the stoppo and they're people who are trying to hurt the American citizen by quoting the killing of Renee Good and Alex Pretty and saying that just like horrible issue and that's like the final ICE agents. Yeah, yeah, well, what about you, Lyona? What are the top issues that you're hearing about or that you're feeling personally? So a couple days ago, I was watching Fox News and they recently did a poll that said all of Americans, their biggest concern while at least 46% of Americans are concerned, mostly about the cost of living. Who isn't right now, I mean, trying to recover from, you know, by theomics and such, but I think the issue is specifically that Republicans, I think we have an issue with voter complacency, right? And the reason why is because the Democrats do nothing but fearmonger, right? Every time they go to the ballot box, it's always, hey, it's like for death, Trump's either going to try and kill you or deport everybody who's a citizen, right? Since things have been going a little bit better for Republicans and Trump isn't on the ballot, I'm afraid that we might not be as inclined to go vote. And I think that's very intimidating because right now, I see as the Democrats are trying to impeach Trump. And I think that's a real possibility that we need to be looking out for because if we don't take action soon, we can do to any. Do you feel that complacency has taken hold? Like, do you see that with conservatives on your own campus? Like, is that a real concern? Are they, are they, is the fire flagging compared to last year? Absolutely. I'm not saying that the spirit isn't there, but when it comes down to actually going and voting, we just kind of have an issue with thinking everything is going to be okay because eggs are down 89% since Trump took office and gas is down $1 since last year. And so we actually see these positive effects coming out from the Trump administration. So we, we become comfortable in that and we think we need to stop moving. But the Democrats, because they are fearmongered by everything, they never stop moving. So I think we need to enhance that. 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Plus if you use our code, Kirk, K-I-R-K, you'll get an additional $25 off your order. That's Kirk, K-I-R-K for an additional $25 off your first order. On top of the $500, you're already saved this year just for subscribing. Goodranchers.com American Meat Delivered. Leon, you were saying you're worried about voter fraud. Have you been paying attention to what's going on in Fulton County, Georgia? I'm vaguely familiar, but I don't know the in-depth details of it. Fair enough. But being in Texas, this is still something that you're concerned about. Is this what other students are talking about in your chapter? I try and bring it up to the chapter. We have, I'm going to be completely honest, being so close to Austin, we have a myriad of issues specifically with viewpoint discrimination. We have so many things we have to deal with, but especially with these upcoming mid-terms voter fraud is something that is pressing on all of our minds incredibly so. Got it. Are you guys worried about AI, H1Bs? Is you thinking about going into the workforce? Is that something kids are talking about? Not as much. We're usually more concerned on things that really, I know they do affect us. Everything that's going on right now is affecting us. But we're more concerned on things that directly affect us that we can fix ourselves. Okay, like what? Like I was saying viewpoint discrimination, right? So we have a lot of registration and as well as professors who try and push back on us when in terms of when we're trying to get speakers, when we're trying to even table or just even just have a conversation with professors, they don't want to engage with us and not only that, but then they do want to shut us down. And they let socialist organizations run them up and do whatever they want and cause quite literally anarchy on campus. In the great state of Texas, San Marcos, right? Isn't that what you guys are at? Yep. I call it Austin by extension. Yeah, exactly. The greater Austin area. What about you, Ben? What are the, what are you hearing the chatter from the students? Not necessarily conservative ones. What are you hearing on campus when kids are talking about political things or cultural things? Well, I would say the thing that I'm hearing a lot is from students is about just the news outlets and how like the woke ones especially how they go and they try to spread a lot of propaganda and tell this false narrative about just what's happening in society going back to ICE and just like telling stories that aren't true or have true Ben or something that's like completely made up. And does it succeed? Like is that unfortunately like is it getting in people like do you hear people say the oh you know oh I saw this thing about ice killing citizen. They're killing people like exactly. Do people repeat that? Yeah. Yeah. Do you, do you, where do they get their news, Ben? Is it mostly TikTok or where do they get news? Yeah, TikTok, Instagram, Snapchat even has their own like thing that you can go through and you can just find the news and just like there's some people on the like on the way radical lab to just explain the news like no that's not true. It's just their way of putting their own thoughts into it and put in their own random. Leon, are you are you feeling the same? Is that most people are getting their news from social media TikTok, Instagram? Oh absolutely. Usually it's so hard that you even have a conversation with somebody when they don't even understand what's going on. I mean a lot of people get their social media not not I mean their news not just from social media but it's very watered down because someone gets it from a TikTok reel and then says it to another person and another person and it gets completely diluted. That and Dean Weathers unfortunately. Oh geez. Well just remember it employee Charlie's method when you're having these conversations ask questions drill down on on kind of their core assumptions and once you once they reveal themselves then you can sort of dismantle that core assumption. So ask a lot of questions where you should get that. Who told you that? What was their source? That kind of thing and then and then you'll get to the root of the issue most often. Leon and Ben thank you guys so much for making the time and joining the Charlie Kirk show. It's so important to hear from you directly from the source, the students out in the field. You are brave, you are the front lines, tip of the spear and we salute you. Thank you for your courage. Thank you. Thank you. I could add one more thing actually now what she was saying earlier about voter ID. Yeah. So going with voter ID the thing that was passing in the house was the save act and already passing there and now hopefully it's going to pass in the Senate and it's pretty funny actually because this is one of the issues that I'm facing at schools people talking about just voter integrity like you were saying Leona and just that we need voter ID and all that and that's coming from the save act hopefully in the coming few months and it was pretty funny from this one guy who said Chuck Schumer exactly and he completed the save act to be the same thing as the Jim Crow laws and he said it's Jim Crow 2.0 and to me there's no rational way to speak like that unless your making seem as if black people are less intelligent and that they can't think clearly enough to get their citizenship proof for the voter ID and just their voting process and the election and it was also that CNN came out and said that 86 percent of blacks and 82 or 83 percent of Latinos want the voter ID to pass on then that our election process is fair and there's no questioning for there to be fraud or anything like that. So I'm excited about that hopefully that will pass. Yeah. Yeah. We've been following it closely. We've been following it closely since they tuned on the Charlie Kirk show because we're bringing in I think there's a vote that's going to happen tomorrow and then we're going to have Chip Roy on Thursday to talk more about it. So stay tuned with that. Thank you guys again. God bless you. Stay safe. Stay courageous. Stay bold. Stay firm. We got your back. Absolutely. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thank you guys. So I want to bring some breaking news here guys. We have there has been new images released by Cash Patel 341 342 of the suspect in the Nancy Guthrie kidnapping case. This guy is fully masked gloves on his hands removing the ring doorbell and we've got videos now. Yeah. This is very creepy. So this looks like somebody that knew exactly what they intended to do. New exactly what they were going to do. And this is the video now. They have retrieved this from remnant data that they collected from the ring doorbell that was actually removed. So they're obviously using pretty technical data specialists to retrieve this video. In the middle of the night this guy came up methodically removes the ring doorbell. Really, really creepy stuff. I mean this is you know they're describing it as a needle in the haystack kind of situation. So you got to we got to pray that that they figure this out and they find this person because this guy's completely masked. No fingerprints. No nothing. Yeah he clearly knew exactly what he was going for but we can hope. You know the FBI releasing footage from Utah Valley is what ultimately yeah to Tyler Robinson being turned in. So so hopefully something very similar here. So there's another video here that the team has yeah it's weird that they knew where the camera was. Go ahead and play this 348. What stands out to me too is that remember how much we've talked about that area and how dark it is and that you can barely see what's in front of your own eyes and I know it was a full moon but he's under the the portico there where there it's probably very dark. He has no trouble identifying that there's a camera there. It's almost as if he knows there's a camera there because it does appear as though he's trying to block the camera's vision of his face. This to me I think you can easily kind of draw some conclusions here it might be reasonable to say that was familiar with that area was familiar with the camera's location and came prepared. Hi folks Andrew Colvet here I'd like to tell you about my friends over at Y-Refi. You've probably been hearing me talk about Y-Refi for some time now. We are all in with these guys if you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan take my advice and give them a call. 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He exposed a lot of racial discrimination and COVID stuff and he has the story last week. It's a little off-brand from some of his prior stuff but it's very interesting. I think it's worth keeping a good focus on the practical ramifications of far left governance and this is a great example of it. Aaron are you there? I am. How do you think Aaron? Welcome back. Yeah welcome back to the show. I think I'll just let you kind of narrate this story here but basically we've got a story in Maryland in a suburb right outside the nation's capital where they allowed a homeless encampment to spread so much and rather than evict you know shut down the homeless encampment they are shutting down the actual homes next to it because they have destroyed it. Can you tell that story to us? Absolutely so the story begins two to three years ago when this homeless encampment first started to coalesce behind the Marylander condominiums in Prince George's County, Maryland. Basically over time the encampment evolves from a few tents into something more like a shanty town slash open-air drug market. Drug dealers are dropping off packages of crap and fentanyl to the encampment in broad daylight. There's MS-13 activity in the area. There's tons of crime and soon enough people from the encampment start to break into the condominium and defecate in the stairwells due drugs in the hallways cause all sorts of problems and eventually they allegedly appear to have broken the heating system which meant that half of the building was left without heat for the entirety of winter including now when it's sub-freezing temperatures in Washington DC. As a result of this the county which had allowed the encampment to pasture for years and refused to arrest the people who were constantly trespassing on this condo's property the county decides to evict not people from the encampment but to evict residents of this condominium saying that the lack of heat has rendered it unfit for human habitation or rather it rendered half of it the half without heat unfit for human habitation. And so as a result in the next couple weeks hundreds of low-income predominantly non-white families are likely to be more subtly evicted from their homes all because of this massive homelessness and really criminal and drug problem that a blue county allowed to pasture and I should note here that I think it was 86% of Prince George's county voted for Hummler Harris which is the reddit it's been high 20 years yeah it's yeah so it is the it is the most democratic county in the country technically Washington DC which is not a county has a higher democratic issue. Exactly exactly and so you're saying they're doing drugs out in the open they're getting drug deliveries out in the open there's gang members and what what was the statement of local police what I assume this had to be brought to their attention did they say anything about this camp? Yeah so there's a video I have in my story where where the the property manager is basically asking a police officer to arrest a homeless woman who's trespassing in the parking lot and he says well there's so many of them and they're just kind of constantly coming through this hole in the fence that they created going back and forth that there's just really too many of them for us to arrest and he in the same breath he acknowledges that if he just tells her to leave gives her a warning she's gonna come right now so they know that just giving them warnings isn't sufficient there's one case I talk about my story where the police come give someone a warning and then 90 minutes later they're back in the same stairwell smoking crack so not arresting them doesn't solve the problem it doesn't it's not enough to just temporarily kick them out right and it looks like we don't just won't yep it looks like we also have a video where they they almost seem to be like blaming the locals for this problem existing because they you know they do the do-gooder thing and give some food to them let's play this clip 265 we do have information from some of our officers that have been doing surveillance that more than one of your residents have actually been coming out of their condo and delivering food to the unhoused population we have more than one verified sighting of that so as we know if we're going to have residents enabling this behavior this unfortunately complicates and adds an additional burden they cannot be delivering food to the unhoused population that's all going to incentivize the unhoused population to return and ask for more I am losing my mind here like by the way if you when you're talking Aaron just to watch Blake's facial expressions as you're describing the incidents it is a show unto itself it's just unreal like so and that's literally their justification that someone felt you know maybe moved by Christian impulse humanitarian impulse probably Christian who maybe yeah to give food to this this person and like it's the job of the police to say okay but this isn't illegal encampment we can't allow this to inspire a lot of control and that's their that's their argument well you get it so you lose your home yeah tell well it gets even worse because at the same time that the police were telling residents of the condo don't feed the unhoused population the county itself for years has been delivering food to this very encampment through a street outreach program organized by the Department of Social Services and furthermore the police department itself also organized an outreach program sponsored by Wagman's grocery store that delivered food it sounds like at some point at least in 2023 there's a video we have in the story where the the police officer who's describing this says yeah you know we did this for a while we were trying to build trust and get people connected with shelters and services we stopped because the this is his words the severe drug addicts uh just didn't want to get off the street um because they like they like their spot behind the condo were drug dealers which is drive through the parking lot and deliver them drugs right they didn't have to deal with the rules and regulations of homeless shelters and this police officer is quoted on video as saying that to get them off the streets you literally would have to put them in handcuffs right so the county knows that this doesn't really work to get people out of there it's a it's a good impulse it's well-intentioned but it doesn't work by their own admission and yet they kept doing it for years and then they were I'm waiting for the review yeah I'm waiting for the reveal that like the crack is also supplied like the government has a crack lab and they're manufacturing that and like the tends are all going to be DHS issue or something well so this might feel to the audience is like a very niche story it might feel but I think it's really important and here's why this is so indicative of left-wing far left governance we're not talking like Mayor Daly in Chicago that was a Democrat but the city ran and the trains ran on time now that's not we're talking we're not talking about that this is a pathology of of a certain ideology when it comes to you see this in New York you see this in San Francisco you see this in LA I saw it when I lived in LA the cities become completely ungovernable because they refuse to enforce basic law and order basic order does not exist there was a related story that I saw it bark in San Francisco they just installed new gates that you can't jump turn styles so that you can't jump them and they were showing like the maintenance and fixates that they had to do and it's literally fallen by over 90 percent or completely stopped like they went from you know we needed 80 visits to fix stuff at this one station and it's down to two or one or zero because they just got rid of by making sure you couldn't break into the bar you got rid of all the people who just go and randomly and I bet it's a lot safer then yes actually well and that's an example of a city that's very far left doing something so yeah we wanted to have Aaron on about this both to highlight his work and just I think it is a perfect symbol like this could be your city if you give in to these country people I mean candidly I mean it's just we don't enforce our law like path of country just like giving up and enforcing laws but it is an and our co tyranny this is a perfect and our co tyranny story because the law-biting residents that pay their rent that we're doing Christian good deeds to try and help these these people giving them food they get punished they get punished while their local leaders completely drop the ball and it's really disgusting story good work on this Aaron this is a we follow your stuff a lot just you're aware because you always come up with these these stories that just like you think they're they're parody but 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I really like to highlight it because I think it's very important to flag that there there's actually so much stuff out there I remember talking to Andrew when we met a few years ago like oh how do you find stuff and you I think you would tell me Andrew like there's actually just tons of stuff out there and you just you poke at a little bit and there's so much you can find and I want to remind people some of your hits you uncovered Minnesota Utah I think New York State all of them were doing racial discrimination with their covid stuff and then another story that there's been a recent update in you have really made a a punching bag out of the University of California Los Angeles they've done a lot of discriminatory stuff illegally in California with their admissions to their medical school and this is actually producing positive developments that aren't getting yeah they're not getting headline news yet stuff is moving forward can you tell us a bit about that Aaron yeah so there was recently a lawsuit against UCLA medical school by students for fair admissions which is the group behind the Harvard affirmative action case that outlawed racial preferences and college admissions nationwide and the the lawsuit concerned UCLA medical schools admissions policies which are as I've reported on like extremely discriminatory against white nation applicants the latest update is that the Trump administration has now joined the lawsuit against UCLA the Justice Department filed a brief in the case and what makes this interesting is that the Justice Department managed to get its hands on MCAT data broken out by race for UCLA which provides really really strong circumstantial evidence of discrimination I think you have to tweet up there right now but yeah it's something like Hispanic matriculants you know an average for yeah it's so 66th percentile on average to get in for Hispanic applicants and an Asian applicant would need 90th percentile so that's a huge gap and that is racial discrimination it's I think we sometimes act exasperated but we probably shouldn't because it is everywhere but I feel like it's worth pounding the table on this that America has racial discrimination under the guise of equality under the guise of this is anti-racism and it's the exact opposite and I think you've played a big role and really just calling that out for the flagrant lie that it is yeah well and Aaron it's worth bringing up again that California has repeatedly voted against affirmative action policies which this is you know akin to that I don't I don't see any other way they're trying to change the law again they voted against it in 2020 yeah they voted against it in 2020 they're trying again now and they're this time they would own they would leave it illegal in colleges officially but as we see they do it anyway they do it anyways that's the point but they want to make it legal for elsewhere like they they seem addicted to trying to legalize well racial discrimination it is yeah that is what's the basis of the lawsuit is it the 2020 you know vote on I believe it was let's see here prop it was prop 209 yeah they reaffirm the basis of the lawsuit is that we have the Supreme Court has left more of an opening to the the correct Aaron that the Supreme Court has sort of said this is bad but yeah leaving it to lawsuits to really make schools right right so so I mean I mean they're suing I believe under both the precedent created in students prepared missions in 2023 and California's prop 209 you ask what the work the lawsuit's based on I mean the factual allegations in the lawsuit are basically almost entirely derived from a series of stories I did in the spring of 2024 where I got uh not just internal data and emails indicating discrimination but also uh testimony from admissions officers uh for admissions officers and some other people close to the process who all said yeah they're lowering standards like crazy depending on the the race of the applicant yeah and they're lowering standards and then they they told you that they're they're getting students as a result who are not prepared for a medical school curriculum and then they're also going out of their way to make sure they don't fail classes it causes a little damage everywhere down the line. Wasn't there a famous case in California Medical School? What was that case? I can't remember off the top of my head. It's a bocky. It's a bocky. Bucky. Yeah. Yeah. I tell us about root. Can you do you have the details on my head? I don't remember all the details but I think basically that is the one that you know kind of established that you can uh do affirmative action to some extent but only as a plus factor. You can't do quotas but you can consider race because diversity has these supposed pedagogical benefits um I think that was the the case. Yeah that's the that's the case where they established it but there was actually a different one where there was a basically a black doctor who it's famous case because he ends up botching all of these procedures. Yeah that he was held up as this like you know this success story and then he turned out having he yeah he was doing like illegal medical procedures. Killed some people. Yeah I think eventually people died. He killed some people so this is like you know it kind of not to bring up a touchy set. It reminds you of when you united airlines basically declared that they were going to make 50% of their new pilot core you know minority or female exactly exactly which Charlie also. Yeah well if they start doing that then I'm going to start looking in the cockpit going like boy I hope you're qualified. Everybody took it as like a racial thing. He was he was saying I don't do that now because we don't have these insane quotas in place but if you're going to start lowering the standards for minority applicants at medical schools this is a huge potential problem in liability and we have historic historical historical precedent which proves that it's a it's a problem. It actually is life uh old dirt. Aaron I hate to put you on the spot but I do I love to use you as an example of just what people can do if they investigate things. So do you have any advice like obviously there's so much UCLA is a school it has campus reporters a lot of our people our viewers people who follow us are students themselves high school colleges law schools and so on. Do you have any advice for someone who's thinking I might be interested in this field how they could like what could they look for in their own uh yeah where do they start school yeah work what should they look at if they wanted to try to find examples of bad behavior in their own school or community. So it used to be easier because the schools would just post the illegal stuff online and they stopped doing that once Trump started stealing them and taking away all their money um what you should probably do now and there's no guarantee this will yield fruit but it's the best thing you can do is make friends with a lot of professors you're gonna have a tough time making friends with administrators frankly if you're you know right wing and want to have an adversarial relationship to the school but you know make friends with the professors or administrators if you can find them who are closet skeptics or or outspoken skeptics of DEI um and kind of left-wing radicalism um because they're the ones who are going to know where the bodies are buried I mean that's the best thing you can do um and establish a good trusting relationships where the professors will feel comfortable telling you things off the record or on back. That's old school it sounds hard but it's really it does work because everyone is conservative about what they know best so a ton of Democrat college professors hate what's happened to the schools. Aaron Siberium your work at the Washington Free Beacon thank you for coming on check him out thank you sir we'll see you all tomorrow thank you for more on many of these stories and news you can trust go to charliekirk.com