Summary
Two Hot Takes episode 247 features guest Scott Evans discussing Reddit relationship advice posts covering financial entanglement, boundary violations, and partner accountability. The hosts analyze stories involving a woman considering investing $100K in her boyfriend's house renovation, a mother-in-law hijacking a woman's birthday at her castle in Italy, and a man discovering his mother has been sending cruel messages to his girlfriend.
Insights
- Financial entanglement without legal protection (marriage/deed ownership) creates severe vulnerability; women should establish clear commitments before major investments
- Stonewalling and emotional withdrawal during conflict are forms of manipulation and control that signal deeper relationship dysfunction
- Partners should demonstrate capacity to support each other through major life crises (grief, loss) before making long-term commitments
- Boundary-setting with family requires direct communication and willingness to enforce consequences; vague hints enable continued harmful behavior
- Red flags in early relationships (2 years) tend to escalate rather than improve; attention to small warning signs prevents larger future damage
Trends
Increasing financial independence of women creating tension in relationships with traditional gender role expectationsWeaponization of money/financial disparity as control mechanism in romantic relationshipsAvoidant attachment styles and conflict avoidance creating communication breakdowns in partnershipsIntergenerational family interference in romantic relationships, particularly from mothers toward partnersPerformative support masking resentment and unmet expectations in cohabiting relationshipsDepression and mental health issues used as justification for avoiding relationship responsibilitiesEmotional labor imbalance where one partner carries grief, logistics, and household management aloneInfidelity emerging from unresolved resentment about financial/status disparitiesLack of pre-commitment conversations about values, expectations, and deal-breakersSocial media and digital communication enabling hidden relationship conflicts
Topics
Financial Boundaries in CohabitationDeed Ownership and Asset ProtectionEmotional Stonewalling and ManipulationGrief Processing in RelationshipsFamily Boundary SettingInfidelity and ResentmentAvoidant Attachment PatternsConflict Resolution StylesPrenuptial AgreementsRelationship CounselingFinancial Disparity in PartnershipsEmotional Labor DistributionLong-Distance Relationship DynamicsIntergenerational Family DynamicsCommitment Signals and Proposals
Companies
Spotify
Platform where Scott Evans and hosts met doing Wrapped content; mentioned as context for their collaboration
NBC
Network that aired World of Dance, a show Scott Evans hosted with Jennifer Lopez, Derek Hough, and Ne-Yo
CBS News
Scott Evans worked as a reporter for CBS News in New York, anchoring Channel One News early in his career
Access Hollywood
Entertainment show where Scott Evans worked for over 10 years before launching his podcast
People
Scott Evans
Guest host and podcast creator; former CBS News reporter, Access Hollywood correspondent, World of Dance host
Anderson Cooper
Mentioned as a famous anchor of Channel One News, the show Scott Evans also anchored early in career
Lisa Ling
Mentioned as a famous anchor of Channel One News alongside Anderson Cooper and Scott Evans
Jennifer Lopez
Judge on World of Dance, the NBC show hosted by Scott Evans
Derek Hough
Judge on World of Dance, the NBC show hosted by Scott Evans
Ne-Yo
Judge on World of Dance, the NBC show hosted by Scott Evans
Kevin Fredericks
Comedian and first guest on Scott Evans' House Guests podcast; became close friend after viral episode
Nisi Nash
Guest on House Guests podcast; discussed having problems you prayed for and managing success
Keke Palmer
Guest on House Guests podcast; mentioned as example of Scott's high-profile guest roster
Jimmy Fallon
Late-night host Scott Evans aspires to work for; mentioned as career goal for Tonight Show position
Quotes
"She's expensive. I know weddings are expensive. But like you're saying this is for us if we're doing the renovation, it's because you're like I want to have I want to be with you and I want to have a baby with you and I want our home to be ready to receive and help grow our family. Yeah, show me that."
Host (analyzing boyfriend's behavior)•Early in episode discussing renovation investment story
"You're not insane. You're exhausted from carrying the mental load for everyone."
Host•Discussing woman grieving father while managing household
"Get your ass in that kitchen and get something made. There's no excuse."
Host•Responding to unemployed partner refusing to cook dinner
"I wake up every day and I'm like, do I want to like? Feeling a little burn out or I'm in my blue era whatever I'm dealing with and I'm like yeah I don't really want to but like it is truly it is a gift I get to do this."
Scott Evans•Discussing gratitude for podcast work
"When you experience people who are in partnerships or in relationships that don't exhibit that kind of thing where one is like one person is like I am doing trying my best and another is really not, you're just like oh I'm not saying leave but I'm definitely saying wake the fuck up."
Scott Evans•Discussing relationship dysfunction patterns
Full Transcript
Do you know what you're getting into no idea? I mean, yes a little okay. I have watched episodes I've seen you I've seen you work. I've seen you and I've always wondered if you had like do you write to your To myself to your posts like do you like are you like I'm gonna say this on this one? I'm gonna say this on this one. Um, no, honestly like I'll read them make sure they're good enough for the show Yeah, and then I feel like I totally Bullying out on what my thought was so then when I have them come back out. It's fresh It feels like I have amnesia. Yeah, it's kind of weird. There's one there was one in particular The episode of Hannah and she was that was the the wife who was considering divorce because the family didn't like her Oh my god. Yeah, I was like I was like but girl by by Yeah, nobody likes you and your husband is cool with it does your husband even like you don't like you girl He doesn't like you don't like he don't love you girl I couldn't believe it you might have some of those today. It hurt me it hurt me deep I was like girl live your life be happy. I know she was like 27 girl be in a life that you love with people who love you I'm of her life. We're excited when you walk in the room. Mm-hmm I also needed to know some more information about that family. I want to know everything I want to be a fly on the wall. I needed some demographic breakdown if you know what I'm saying Mm-hmm. Where are we? Are we in Texas? So we know are we in Minneapolis? Are we in I fell European to me? I don't know why it did I fell European like white is that what you mean? Honestly, I mean like Europe I for some reason I don't know why in my head. I was envisioning like an Indian family Given like the hierarchy. Okay, I don't know It's so interesting because you ask people what they envision in their heads during the readings. Yes, everyone's gonna have such a different Like mental image. Yeah, yeah, sometimes I won't say genders and like my friend Lauren will like assume genders and like They're always like when we find out more the opposite So interesting. I know sometimes I do themes where I haven't done it in like probably a year or two where I'll take out all the genders And just like you don't just here's the information. Here's the info not right because it's like if if there was No gender would you are your opinion change? Sometimes it does yeah, of course we're all a little biased baby. We're all a little biased here Just trying to do our most of us are out here down trying to do our best that's literally all I'm trying to do literally Just my best baby. Just wake up every day and be nice try my best try my best, but y'all try me Scott said spicy to them. I'm gonna spice me to fuck shit up I'm so excited to have you we met doing Spotify wrapped content. Yeah, and from that I was just like okay, he can go he's funny. Yeah, let's have it a good time. You have your wits about you Yeah, you're just you're on it so for those that don't know the Scott lore. Uh-oh Who are you? Let's talk about your podcast, which is like having the best first year I think out of any podcast. I've Recently discovered oh my gosh. You're just on it, but like you've done access Hollywood I also just found out you host like a dancing show. Yeah, hosted World of Dance on NBC insane Jennifer Lopez Derekuff and Neo Insan okay, so yeah, give everyone the lore if they're not familiar. Yeah, so I mean I've been working in this business for a very very very long time and Entertainment I have worked in hard news first was reporter for at CBS News in New York It's amazing with a show called Channel One News. I don't know if you ever had that in your school But it was like a national Broadcast with Anderson Cooper Lisa Ling Maria Manunozo were all famous Are famously anchored the show and so I got the opportunity to anchor the show as well And it was a dream of mine. That's amazing and then it was like okay. I'm tired of covering The worst of the world It's time to get into entertainment and then did that with access Hollywood. We've been there for over 10 years now This last year I was like There's got to be more converts six minute conversations can only feed you for so long. Yeah, you need a little more I want a little more so we started house guests as a way to also so I could just practice late night I want Jimmy Jimmy Fallon's job. I'm one of the clear. Oh Jimmy, I love you, but and I told him this it was like I'm good. I said, Brad. I'm coming for you I'm just I want you to know the moment you're ready Let me I love that and so I wanted to get my hours up and so we we started the show and I thought it was gonna be a place for me to Practice and kind of private. Yeah, the first episode went viral and I was like Who's your favorite first guest? Kevon stage Kevin Fredericks comedian here In Los Angeles who has become like a very very good friend and Yeah, then it was like it was on after that like every single episode and so I Didn't get the opportunity to really practice in private and so now it's like all out there and you just roll with it And so now it's kind of like if the Jimmy Fallon job never if the tonight show never happens I'm good with it because house guests is so fulfilling it is crazy. I think that's something that in terms of like content how everything's changing in recent years like There's certain podcasts that reach more people every week than the late night shows. There's there's more podcasts You think about all these big publications too. Yeah, I had someone in a call. They're like your shows bigger than vogue's subscription Like you're getting more eyes on you than that. It's just like that concept That was like a part of the reason why I was okay leaving OT and I think like kind of coming to terms with like no, no, this is like this is actually what I've got Yeah, and it was like the concept where I'm reaching more people every week than I would in an entire career of working in a hospital doing OT And that in my head I was like whoa, okay, that's crazy. Yeah, and and also like To understand the the the goal that you have the drive that you have the passion that you've developed in this To separate yourself from it And what feels like helps you get out of the bed some days yeah because also those the paths that many of us took Before this was an opportunity for us You it beats you down man and not to say that this is not hard It doesn't have its challenges and obstacles to overcome as well, but you are in charge of it Yeah, you realize just what a privileged position you're in yeah, it's just I wake up every day and I'm like Do I want to like? Feeling a little burn out or I'm in my blue era whatever I'm dealing with and I'm like yeah I don't really want to but like it is truly it is a gift I get to do this so It's really it's really cool and your show is amazing I just saw clips from you when you had kicky Palmer on oh my gosh your guests are just Amazing and you do such a good job. Thank you having those Intimate combos and keeping it light and fun. Well, yeah, well you bring people to your house So house guys is literally shot at my house like literally at my house and it's a very small crew We keep our footprint very very small and so it's talking to to actually to Nisi Nash Are you watching all Sphere on Hulu by the way yet because if you're not with Kim Kardashian I haven't started no Is it good home work to okay? Because I keep getting mixed reviews on my tiktok. Yeah go ahead The letter is got a season two. Oh let the room let the reviews be let the reviews be mixed But get your butt in front of that screen. It is so it's it's like you can't stop watching the show But I had Nisi Nash on and You know she she talks about the idea of Being in a position where you have the kind of problems you prayed for Having the kind of issues in your life or worries in your life that you dreamed of one day being able to To be you know, I mean concerned with and so yeah, you just you keep going and I'm I'm trying to tell you But if you get to those points and you're like okay, I'm feeling a little you can control that yeah Shift it. I don't think we take enough license sometimes in our own lives. We just feed it Whatever that it is. I know and I I mean the more you like solidify an idea in your head the stronger it gets So it's like you just I like try to like totally just get out of my funk I have found a $35 massage place and so when I'm feeling sad. I just go there. I'm sorry Yeah, but then I leave like a $15 tip you have to leave You have to leave California. No, it's right down the street. You do leave your clothes on I'm sorry There's different levels to the massage they offer Are you saying yeah, so this one they call it a foot massage, but it's not they do your whole body still Be your clothes are on is the massage clothes the masseuse clothes are on awesome For $35 I just want to know what I'm getting into I just want to know How long is the massage? It's the best place ever. It's in Burbank. It's next to the Canes if anyone wants to try it I really don't cry. You're crying. You're crying. My spot Right now. Really I just like I'm I call and like I can get in within five minutes like they're so great So you walk in the door you go in this like big open room With like 10 chairs and you sit in the chair and they bring it communal Yes communal that's my 35 dollars. Okay, beggars can't be choosers. No, you're not wrong. I just I'm just trying okay And then you sit in the circle. It's like deeply reclined wait is there is there is it just a normal a regular person massage? It's like someone else who's sitting in a chair. Do you massage the person sitting in front of you? And then the person behind you is massage is you people work their massage you It's not like the monkey picking bugs out of each other And now it's it's legit. Okay. It's legit and they do offer real massages too I just have I think in my mind it's like in a school gymnasium and like maybe say a meeting It's like a little room this size I'd say and then like just chairs all about But you get in and then you put your feet in a warm bucket of water and while they're working on your the feet are soaking and getting warm They massage your head your shoulders They do like some lymphatic drainage type stuff. Okay, like arms and then they moved to your feet And your feet come out of the bucket and they go up and then they're really doing a full massage and like massage And then they like they like step on your thighs Yeah And then they roll you over and then they do your back and your neck and your head and just everything How long an hour For 35 valley. Yeah, and then I do a $15 tip because it feels for 35 Yeah, 35 Isn't it a deal? It's only 55 if you want to take your clothes off Okay, it's but like you know what I mean if you want the traditional one I don't know You want to take your clothes off at cost $55 you don't yeah for an hour Have you ever seen other people in there with you? Yeah, okay, it's usually booked up Wow, I know this is why I like cannot travel Like if I go like France I went and there was a spa or Iceland There's a spa there. I can't get massages anywhere else because like 200 bucks and I'm like I got that at home We got massage at home. We got massage at home Home yeah, so I you know doing that of that yeah, which you what you want I got chick for laying home exactly. That's funny. Yeah, so it's a good time. Yeah, I'm gonna run up on that It's right on street is down the street hell yeah come on you can't beat that without what a big stick Okay, but on a not so happy note. Let's get into it to the bib bib bib bib bib bib Let's get into today's stories. Okay. Are you gonna hit me hard the first time or you? I know you you can handle Yeah, I think so yeah, I'm going to massage after this. Yeah, you're gonna need to release some tension Like lay it on pent up energy Since we met since we met at the rap that's a rap. That's the theme today. That's a rap. That's a rap. 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Is this recoverable? Honest answer Yeah, we want nothing but honesty here There is no irreparable damage here They're honestly This is Common sense And if homeboy wants to throw a tantrum Because he can't get his renovations done On the timeline he thought he'd be able to get them done Without the consideration of her beyond her wallet Then brother Bye Keep him moving And I also think it's interesting that you start the the post with We want renovations done for a potential baby Yeah And now having the promise of marriage Before that Isaka Whoa, you've ruined So look there's already kind of like a situation there But I'm going to just say this For me In in in my life I'm not making Find large financial decisions With people That doesn't reflect the same intensity Yeah As that as that financial Definitely investment And so like I'm not going to be paying for the renovations of the home we both live in And I'm not on a mortgage And we not married I mean really as this says There's no strings Like there's a living all he can do is like he can take that 100k And then say bye And she's loved with nothing at the end of the day Yeah And I don't know like contract He's like oh we can drop a contract to protect ourselves financially You can You can but like You can drag I mean you can draft up a contract to that can say anything for anything at any point As long as people agree to it then like that's what the agreement is usually Yeah, but like how is it going to be enforceable like For if he can't afford a 100k renovation to get the house where it needs to be Because then he could put it in his prenup. That's my house I this is everything before marriage I'm keeping the house at the end of the day That's his But if he doesn't have the 100k for the Renault Baby then we don't have a Renault And like then we don't have a Renault What are you going to have to do to pay me back? Sell your house So you can pay me back the 100k I invested Well, I think that's the idea that the buying to the house is that she's she would with the with the 100k investment Of the the the renovation She would then be Entitled to the Value of the house in reflection of that 100k Yeah, because you're gonna have a lot of equity right there. Hello Hopefully yeah, but also like but but if it's a good area, you know, I know because like we could be renovating the house We shouldn't be renovating We shouldn't be buying a new house. Well, that's the thing. I'm like how much was this house like what was his buy in was his buy in You know, this is 200k house and he put 20k down like what's his buy in also? It's like the idea is that if you are concerned about With this don't seem like the sparkle is gone Well Then get the sparkle back. Yeah, like we got to have real-ass conversations about life We can't be always chasing the sparkle Yeah, I'm saying because the 100k don't have no sparkle to it No, also if you can't have that conversation of like I'd like more of a commitment before I give you 100k Whoa, you you're really ruining the whole like well now I'm on a timeline We're already on a timeline bitch. You're giving me a Renault because we want to get married and have a baby and we can't do that until we renovate Bullshit bullshit get engaged have your wedding takes nine months for a baby to cook You can do a Renault in that amount of time Hey, bruh, come on. Hey, bruh. We're on to you. She's expensive. I know weddings are expensive But like you're saying this is for us if we're doing the renovation It's because you're like I want to have I want to be with you and I want to have a baby with you And I want our home to be ready to receive and help grow our family. Yeah, show me that Because I'm gonna start writing these checks to these contractors Yeah, show me show me that yeah, and they don't have return policies. No, they do not I can tell you They don't and and when you start playing with contractors money They craze they'll come after you and they got tools Okay, they got and deep ditches is all I'm saying I've seen the movies. I've seen them. Oh my god It's also it's also don't you think it's a little strange that The take is I've nuked My relationship uh-huh because we're having a hard conversation. I think there's bigger issues here. There's clearly Some bigger issues here and it seems like maybe she's tuned into a frequency that's like we're not doing the best Well, it's all like she's walking on eggshell. She's anticipating a really bad reaction. It's like but why? Because he throws tantrums. This is a fine conversation. Oh, yeah, because he throws tantrums. Yeah, and now he's cold And so now you're gonna raise two kids Mm-hmm. You got two babies there. Oh, that's so many of those lately. Why Why you sound like you already got a baby. I know So my dad as a podcast he gives dad advice. We just had a listener right in on his show She's got two kids six and four and her kids are not even comfortable enough with her husband their dad to ask him for a snack Because he's such like a la la la like no, they can't even go to their dad and be like dad Can I have a snack? They don't have a relationship with him. No, he's so checked out He comes home early from work and plays his video games and it's like you ma'am you don't have two kids You have you have three She does everything in their house. It's hard but it's single mom cleaned It's hard being a single mom and you are at that point you are girl So what did he say? What did your father say? I'm curious my dad Uh, what was the advice because I would feel like I would be how do you want the address? He can't yeah No, he tore him a new one and my dad's like he needs just get off the fucking video But we definitely we went we went in on him a little bit. I mean you got that's crazy. I know Two and four you said four and six I believe look out He's now two-year-old then that's crazy. I know we couldn't be me But these two they've only been together two years. I mean, I think that's much too quick to give someone a hundred K of your money. Here's what I'm gonna say also it's it might be in my opinion also much too quick to get engaged What's your what's your reading on that two two years you moved in directly with each other because right It would be a cost effective. I think moved in about a year ago. Yeah, so like You're getting a better clue into who this man is gonna be as a life partner And what's really happening is not that you've neutral relationship But the church you're seeing some red flags pay attention. Yeah Because they're only gonna the red flags are either only gonna grow into bigger flags pear shoots Wind sales You know, and so like when that watch when they're small Listen to that shit when it's a little a win it's a whisper Yeah as opposed to when it's shouting at you in the middle of the hallway Absolutely and top comment kind of says something similar they go forget engaged Don't do this unless you're married and on the deed 19k votes on that I mean Yeah, I'd up vote that yeah, I'll hear I'll give them one for you tap that Um next comment down this OP people can always break engagements, but it's harder to break a deed Do not put a penny of your money if you're not on that deed you'll be screwing yourself And not in a good way no not a fun way and that's the thing like Who knows what he's gonna say in terms of a prenup too like there's no safety Like here like it's literally just like you're just handing it over There is no safety if you hand it over. I know and it does sound it does sound like there's a fair amount of maybe manipulation That's at play in their relationship if this feels like I've nuked it because I'm not an agreement with you Because we're not an agreement right now feels like Well, if I don't automatically just agree with you then we're he's so angry with me And so cold with me that I just want to do anything. I can't avoid that and that is so toxic Yeah, that's my manipulation girl Yeah, here's a story that someone read you know there's one next to you if you want to use it It's a flag on the play hey Someone shares this I know a single mom who is dating a guy that convinced her to sell her house Then invest the money she made from the sale in a renovating his house Her name was not on the deed Less than a year later they got into a fight She came home from work with her daughter the next day The locks had been changed and her and her daughter were stuck living in hotels for a few months while she saved enough money For a deposit on an apartment The about 120k she invested in his house was considered a gift and there is no legal recourse for her to get this money back That's insane you want that to be you girl You want that to be you don't do it. That's true And like that's and it really is that simple like it's not even like that's not even an emotional thing That's not like a oh That's just not smart No, I know we have like some lawyers listening or like Parolegals or whoever out there and you're just like screaming. You're like don't do it You could be a 14-year-old What's the fortnighter and you know that don't make no sense And she clearly she does too, but that's why she wrote it on on on red That's why she was like I gotta make sure I'm not crazy. Yeah, and that's kind of what she said. There's like a comment Here and she's just like thanks for all your responses And she says seen a neutral third party like a relationship counselor seems like a really good move before taking any other action So no breakup They're still together a relationship counselor sounds like an automatic But also this is if you mean you got to mean what you say and this is a very basic thing Super basic also a major red flag If this if this is all playing out the way that that she's describing it I don't like it. I don't like it one bit. No Okay, moving on to this next one. Okay coming from our slash off my chest. Okay 28 days old titled my mother-in-law planned 75th birthday extravaganza for herself on my birthday at my house My husband and I live in a castle in Italy where we host weddings and events. It's a lot of work stop Stop We live in a castle in Italy castle Man if you don't leave me alone about throwing this 75th birthday party you have a castle Okay You got more castle to go throw your birthday party into I'm sorry go ahead as you I skipped a head at I just heard Castling Italy and it's like yeah, of course we're throwing it at your house It's a lot of work, but we now have staff so we're not doing everything ourselves My mother-in-law decided she wanted to throw her 75th birthday party here She had a massive party here four years ago with 60 guests that I helped her plan every detail of This time I said fine as long as I don't have to plan it I passed her off to our event manager to handle all the logistics as you do when you live in a castle Fast forward to me seeing our booking calendar and she booked the entire thing on my actual birthday Not the weekend before not her own birthday, which is five days later. Nope. She chose my birthday Which this year falls on a Tuesday. I knew you're gonna say Tuesday. I knew you this had Tuesday energy This is the she's doing it. This is a specific thing. Oh random weekday her birthday is on a Sunday Why wouldn't she do it over the weekend on her own birthday? Because girl you know why she didn't She invited 30 plus gas all flying in from another country who will be staying at my house for three nights The big celebration Which will be a multi-course dinner cake and dance party all scheduled on my actual birthday She asked if I wanted to choose the cake flavor Quote since it's technically your birthday I told her no, it's your birthday now because I can't imagine going up with her to have her friends Seeing us happy birthday together For months I was delusional enough to think that this was some kind of elaborate surprise party for me That's what I was thinking because who would do this otherwise? This is great And I told her I was going to be out of town and she said she would cry every day if I'm not there This is a surprise Then my husband said he hoped I would be there so the whole family could be together But today my husband picked up a literal busload of her friends and the reality hit Nope this week is all about her So I'm stuck hosting a birthday bash for my mother-in-law on my own birthday Surrounded by her friends speaking a language I struggle with I've never been a birthday zilla person But a cozy morning with my family and a walk in the forest Then out to dinner in the city has been the norm However, that's no longer possible Yesterday I felt fine about it all and helped her make the gift bags for all of her guests And I decorated inside the castle with a bunch of birthday things But today I feel awful and anxious I'm probably thinking it will be worse than it actually will be If there were a random clients event I could just hide away and celebrate with my husband and kids But now everyone will be focused on her Is this as outrageous as it feels? Yes Really as outrageous as it feels Okay, because you live in a castle in Italy And I just feel like If also here's what I'll say okay It feels a little outrageous to me because if all you want to do is take a walk in the morning With the family and go and go to dinner You can still do that You can still absolutely do that And if you have a staff Castle event planner they can manage the party while you go have dinner with your husband And then you arrive to the party a little tardy Fashionably elite to your birthday It's your birthday and Y'all's castle So like castle part is so insane It's sending me Every time all I see is her like Up in the what is it the tar the tallie the tallies tower The tallest tower and she's like but it's my birthday Oh, she's too nice too nice. She decorated the castle for her. She didn't decorate no damn castle She said I decorated the castle with a Mariah Carey says she decorates the house too. She don't actually decorate the house I don't know these people seem like they bought like an old run down Italian castle for a dollar And then redid it themselves and they just fell deeper in love during the process It's giving inheritance to me. It's giving I mean maybe what is it what is it uh count It's giving uh what is it my lord My lord I don't know and I also feel like My my when I went to go pick up the friends There's got to be a certain level of devastation when you think oh wait This is all just a ruse you know to get me to surprise me But like I would have thought that too. I would have but they I don't like y'all good you pick up the friends And it just is like cemented. Is that my friends? No Do we have an update was it actually hurt her party? We have no update. Okay. This you die Maybe the heartache. Yeah, could of Yeah, there's no other comments. I mean top comment Which was my thought to Celebrate your birthday on hers. Sleep in go for a walk with the family go to dinner It's a Sunday so you can have the entire day to yourself birthday swap I mean pick your day. She she stole your day saturday is a better day I would throw a party at your castle on saturday and say fuck you and it's also it's not her birthday saturday So she can't be like it's my birthday too. No bitch. It's tomorrow And it was Tuesday So no, it's not your birthday like take over saturday and take people really have this kind of Like these kind of battles with the in-laws. Yeah, did you did you ever experience this like with with with x's or people that you were you were dating Did you ever have this kind of tense? Like back and forth is tense energy relationship with the in-laws? Yeah, I think especially when you're new like there's kind of like Oh, well who's gonna get that time during you know the holidays or things like that and you kind of have to like establish new norms or like I don't know. This is how we're doing it this year and like I mean I feel like holidays always bring a little drama But especially when you're trying to blend and like be the new girlfriend and come in and you're like Stir in the pot. That would be my question also. I think that has a lot to do with The some of the dynamic of this is whose How whose castle? Yeah, like was this do we go and buy this castle together? That is is this My husband's castle that or my husband's family's castle that we moved that we were gifted at the wedding and now Does that make a difference like because I I do see like mom sounds like she's a little entitled to the castle correct So does that make a difference in your head? It does it does make a difference in my head Also she had access to the event calendar for the castle and pick that day. Yeah Who gave her access to you know I'm saying like you don't just get access to the event You should have said here's the dates available here the dates available. Mm-hmm. Maybe Well now that you know you're working with a evil mother-in-law Like whatever monster in law. Yeah, now that you know that you're dealing with monster in law you Can be on your toes a little bit more going forward which sucks It sucks having to like Jedi mind trick people and like think 10 steps ahead Don't read on your parade. Yeah, but you need to with her But it could be it could be 10 steps ahead so you don't read on your parade or also also we're just dealing with reality Yeah, the reality is you will take advantage of this of the situation if I allow you to take advantage And so I'm gonna create a better boundary here and sorry ma'am ma'am ma'am ma'am her back into place you know exactly ma'am happy birthday But you need to sit yo-ass down on a Tuesday Just not on my actual birthday like there's no Good reasoning like you know you know all of her friends flying in flying in on a Monday and being there during the week Monday, Tuesday Wednesday. That's harder than a weekend. You know what I'm gonna tell you come on. You know I'm gonna tell you Tell me it's gonna really fuck them up You know she should have done She should have planned a birthday party of her own on Tuesday in the castle. I would have bigger louder. Yeah, like girl Have your birthday and I'll pop in You mean my gang when they sing happy birthday to you. Yeah, when your cake comes down. Yeah, when that moways flow And then I'll be there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let me know. Let me know. And you want me to pick the cake? I I have just the thing Nope matter of fact let it be a surprise No cake shit cake bakery messed up. Oh Oh You're going that method I was gonna say that it is that felt a little dark. No shit cake is look I mean you shake cake with oh you whatever you wanted to be Open true interpretation I'm just saying don't piss Scott off. Okay. Hey, oh no get a shit cake in my castle. Oh, yeah, no You get the shit cake hell no ma'am Happy birthday and your cake is gonna say happy birthday ma'am ma'am yeah, you feel that 75 years ma'am Someone does kind of say Talk to your husband since he does not seem to get it spell it out for him clearly And if I were you I would sneak out for a couple of hours to do something on my own with the kids and husband It can't rationally be all your mother-in-law even now So they're kind of being like hubby's got some yes clearly some little boundary issues But you know what also happens in relationships we say things we don't mean hoping that the partner will just Get it so what like when you say no, it's fine. It's fine. Don't don't worry about me Don't don't worry about me, which you're also saying is I want this to be a big deal for you So that I don't seem like a crazy person. Yeah, I want you to care a little bit more about this because you can clearly see I'm affected by it. Yeah, and I'm trying my very best my feelings were be would be so hurt Like even if you're not a huge birthday person. Yeah, it's still nice having one day out of the year that is just like Solly about you a little bit about you especially. She's a mom. She's got kids No other days about her hello even her birthday is probably not about her and certainly isn't this year right so like fuck I also imagine if it was like a big if it was a milestone birthday And you were like taking of that take but also you gave the date I know I'm would just be honest you also gave the date. I don't know. I feel like I would just be like here's the calendar Like here's what you're working with I would never assume she'd pick my birthday when It's your 75th fucking birthday Throw the party on Saturday and go till midnight so at midnight you Like fucking shit off right and then you're with all of your people as you turn 75 You picked a Tuesday also dumb bitch Yes I love when you get like this. I love when you get like this. Why she's so dumb like what a dumb also Also, what kind of birthday party really is a 75 year old throwing like that. She's gonna be over a six o'clock No, I'm gonna throw a rager Yeah, but we're not talking about Chris Jenner Jen I'm saying Chris Jenner got her own castle. I think old people party harder than you think I'm gonna just tell you this. I was at a dinner yesterday at the built more Well, that sounds and Came came six o'clock The in these orthopedic shoes they were ready to get up out of there. Okay. It's all I'm saying what What beverages were provided? alcoholic ones You know sugars sugars spike, you know people got Confession socks on and all kinds of stuff underneath the gala gown and People got to go to bed. I'll tell you right now my grandma's 83 and she parties She parties she parties she gets that wine flow and she'll do an impromptu speech here in there just she live Minnesota exactly sims Ann What you talk about somewhere with a castle? I don't know my aunt that lives out here in LA. She gets pretty hammered She has a little catering team Older I'm just saying I'm just saying party party going last that long anyway You know, I mean certainly not on a Tuesday right going up on a Tuesday Club going up on a Tuesday. Well, they got that one. Well, we hold on a second if if old lady knows that She might be she might be in it. Yeah, she playing yin yang twins and She's not a single Luke. I think old people in Europe also really know how to party They know I don't go have a good time girl go have a good time buy yourself something nice Honestly, I'd get really drunk and make it about you. That's the one time where I think you could sabotage someone's party What she should do is go buy herself a really beautiful necklace Mm-hmm on her husband's credit cards. Yes as a birthday gift. Okay, and make that the focus of the look at what my husband got me for my birthday While she eats a shit cake Done I want the recipe. I'm like very scared done Okay, moving on to this next one. No problem. I'm ready now. I'm primed. I'm ready now. Yeah Locked in This episode is brought to you by talk space talk space is the number one rated online therapy bringing you professional support from license Therapists and psychiatrists that you can access anywhere anytime. 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I've been working full time in a demanding job. I do really love Unfortunately significant other has been unemployed for over a year Applying to only about 15 jobs in that time We both chose to move home to be near our parents and that's been mostly positive I lost my stepmother in august Requiring I drive to another state to take care of a gray gardens type situation I thought that was the most traumatic things that I'd have to do this year A few weeks later However, my dad was hospitalized and I tried to be at the hospital as much as I could Considering I was new at my job and had used all of my leave with my stepmother's house My dad and she were still married But he had moved back to our state for health reasons She refused many times to leave him The day after my dad was released from the hospital against my family's wishes he passed I came over to make him soup and I had found him My significant other has largely been supportive But he's repeatedly been irritated that he has to make dinner weeknights As I work full time and try to address two people's estates No wills plus all the grief When he recently made an insensitive comment about having to make dinner part of the week I asked him to consider that this was insensitive considering all that was going on Additionally, I made all dinners for our family while working full time And being the primary caregiver for our son for 12 years When I shared this he immediately fell into a cycle where he shuts down Shuts me out, gets defensive, then reactive, then depressed It's what always kept me from being honest with him Long story short, I kept asking him to talk to me For days, I acknowledged how he must be hurting too I thanked him for everything he did around the house I knew something was bothering him and asked him to talk to me After a day of needing to report my dad's death to creditors And my son at dinner cutting me off when I suggested better ways of communicating About wanting rides They both snapped at me and shut me out I got up, put on a coat, and went for a walk And I didn't take my phone An hour later I got home and sat with my son outside And we talked and apologized and listened to each other When I tried the same with my significant other He was immediately cold and defensive No matter what I said, he responded That what I said hasn't happened and that I was being mean I asked him to then share something with me He felt I hadn't heard instead of just negating what I said Correct Quote, that's so fucked up to put pressure on me Was the response I pointed out I was crying and mourning and asked why he was so cold He asked why I didn't care he had to make dinner As with all conflicts, this is a simplified version He is a good person But we almost got divorced four years ago Because of how his undelt with trauma meant that he didn't ever want to talk Quote, why can't we just act like everything is fine And fell into reactive patterns I'm in a hotel now He is not someone to ever go after anyone So it's not for drama I'm an oldest daughter I know what taking on a lot with little support means But I'm completely shocked by this Yeah, big red flag Being told that I'm selfish Because when I cook on weekends, it's just pasta In parentheses Roasted butternut squash homemade sauce slow simmered Am I insane? Am I a 40 year old woman who has been checking on everyone in working full time The worst? Did I today Finally yelled that it would be cool if my significant other applied to more jobs And get a therapist per our agreement When we decided not to divorce And to not drink so much that he passes out on the couch every night Because all I want to do is make the people I love feel loved But now I just feel insane and alone I keep trying to reach out to him to support him In his own frustration and grief But he shuts me out Now I'm drinking wine In a plastic glass in a motel because of it He knows I'm barely functioning Am I the asshole for saying he should leave when I get back? That's the only question is are you the asshole? No No No is a full sentence There's like a little parenthesis at the bottom too RIP my dad A bad ass and my best friend So that's also the thing that's happening, right? So your husband is never going to be your dad He's never going to be your He's never going to be the dude your dad was And like expecting that after your dad passed He somehow turn it magically turn into the dude He's not always been in your entire relationship But he's not going to also be the dude who was involved In your almost getting divorced four years ago Like he's the same dude he's always been He's the same dude And it sounds like he's the same dude Who's going to stay the same dude Whether you get divorced now Or in another 15 years Right To me I am not a proponent of telling people to Leave their Marriages But I am a proponent of telling people of encouraging people to See the situation for what it actually is And love yourself Yeah, emphasis on love yourself because no one else is Like they certainly ain't going to do it If you don't do it No And I think like I think you can look at your kid And granted you know he's 12 Maybe like I know you said like I took care of him for 12 years So like I'm assuming he's around 12 I mean look at how he's treating you And that's probably being modeled by your husband Correct Who's not treating you well But then when you had this when you had a scenario Where you came back to your son And said okay, now listen we got to talk this thing out That was super constructive And you did and came to a better agreement And understanding of one another That's modeling the kind of energy The interaction that you want Oh that's so yeah, that's really healthy Do you know what I mean? No that was great If you're significant other though Is incapable and unwilling It's not this is in a matter of like Oh I don't know how This dude is deciding not to It's in a voidant kind of Whether you have you're attached Oh like a voidant attachment Yeah Yeah and then there's like conflict resolution styles Yeah So like this feels to me like I don't want to deal with stuff And I also don't want to do stuff Like you probably need some There be Yeah Maybe some medicine You know there's some good stuff out there That will help you regulate some of that Until you can address some of those issues And start to heal Yeah But certainly motherfucker you can make a dinner And if you haven't got a job You can make a dinner five nights a week Yep I'm just gonna say that That should be your Bare minimum Bare minimum Yeah Well y'all get home and it's gonna be good And if If it was just pasta Motherfucker did you just eat it Then get the cooking Just pasta Just pasta my ass Oh go fuck yourself and don't eat my food ever again Oh like I see Like a literally As I feel it too I'm so I'm burger helper got the directions on the box Get in that kitchen and get something made There's no excuse Like we can eat There's no fucking excuse What are you doing What are you drinking If you've applied to 15 jobs over the past year Maybe that's one A month That's pretty pathetic When your wife is like Seemingly carrying the weight of the world Yeah And her parents have died Yeah Bruh You can't cook me One fucking meal Get your ass in that kitchen I know I've never said that about a person significant other Because that sounds crazy Out of context Get your ass in that kitchen sounds crazy But if you play this whole episode That's nuts And then it's unfair to put that pressure on me What pressure Outta What pressure She better than me You told me I made just pasta You go in there and make just pasta then Go make it There's no pressure Boil some water Dump the noodles in Strain it Pour some sauce on it Let's go But you want to simmer that for a little bit You want to make sure that the sauce gets into the noodle You know what I mean You want to make sure you want to eat that best sauce And if you're doing a little meat Some ground chicken ground turkey Starts Putting it in the pan Yeah you want to season all of that Also you want to make sure you season the meat You want to season the noodles You want to make sure you get some butter Some salt, some pepper And those noodles Leave a little bit of the pasta water in there To thicken it up To thicken it up Yeah you want to make sure that you got a good consistency For that just pasta For something I don't know But But like what you're not going to do Is illuminate your resistance To an obligation to your family That you can easily share Easily This is such a joke I always say Do you ever feel like people are trolling you This one No Because I'm like I get these writings all the time Like Like I would be like Let me see a picture of him There's some He got to be fine Right He got to be real He got to be He got to be fine He could be the hottest person on the planet I know but like you can't be ugly And also act like that And we stay together Because like you got to be He's Sometimes they are No way He got to be fine It's just love She's such a good person I know but he really loves him She probably does Because he's also probably fine He's ugly ass Ugly ass and heart Ugly ass heart He's just ugly all around Look Ugly ass Ugly ass There's no way Like he's got so much fucking audacity Like That's crazy I just I can't And I think there's like a good To not talk to me for days Because I was like Could you make dinner Could you make dinner Could you make dinner Because if you I mean Here's what I also say I'm gonna I just hate him I hate him I'm with you Here's what I'm also saying If we're in a relationship And you're upset with me And I feel like You're upset with me because you don't get it And you don't talk to me for days But I make meals That you eat No, you're not eating We got a mother fucking problem Because You're not eating my food If you can't talk to me You can eat No No no no no I'm the same Yeah Just pasta Just pasta No and I know some people are gonna be like That's so toxic But no What he's doing is toxic You're stonewalling Yes That is so unhathy Add to stonewall Hunger strike Because that's also what you're on Bye Cause you're asking You're eating from this kitchen Well, who's paying for everything That's so I know like their money is Her money is their money right now But like Who's paying for everything She's not holding any money over his head There's no financial abuse She's letting him apply For 15 jobs in one year And still Supporting him And then ask just for a little bit In a moment of Horrible grief And pain So do you make dinner It's all just need a little food I wonder maybe Was she like It'd be great if you're Fucking may dinner sometimes But even that I'm not kidding that But even that Like you would be like You're right I should I mean I feel like she's being very balanced in this writing Even like As with all conflicts This is a simplified version He is a good person Like she's still like giving him Some flowers in this I'm gonna tell you What made me What of all of those sentences Made me understand that she was a A rational Nice person Yeah I see your computer real quick Yeah I'm scared This is the line where I was like She not lying Okay Being told that I'm selfish Because when I cook on the weekends It's just pasta In parentheses Here here's what it was Roasted butternut squash Homemade sauce Slow simmered Crazy people Don't cook like that For a kid and their man No Crazy people Don't cook like that No, that is so So thoughtful Something like I feel like a lot of us have Like things will ask Ourself before committing to someone It got me hot And hot mother And I feel like a lot of people have these tests In their relationships where they're like Can we travel together Can we decorate together Yeah Can we grieve together Can we grieve together Is one that should be on there And like Someone I don't know how this like Came into my head Maybe a story over the years If you look at your partner And you can't go through the worst grief Of your life With that person You are not with the right person I hate to catastrophize I hate thinking about my parents dying But I know without a doubt That the person I have next to me Is going to It's good dude Going to get me through that Yeah Going to get me through those hard horrible days And you shouldn't settle for anything less Because that is One of the worst days of your fucking life Losing a parent And you get this Both parents Her step Parent Yeah Do you know what I mean? Divorce Give them the D There's some Ds on it Yeah Yeah Let's go Like Done This is done I also feel like I agree with you In that That With the concept of The life's major hurdles This is why I think that two years It's like You don't have enough time No, you need some more hurdles You need some more You need to You need to see some more Experience some more stuff See and feel and Endure Some things I think Personally myself I'm not talking about other people You're entitled to your heart take You know what I mean My personal opinion I just This is That's how I That's how my partner And I Literally my father was passing away As we were Beginning our friendship Wow And I was I received the kind of love I didn't even know Was possible That's what I'm saying It convinced me Against All of my childhood Ideas Or all of my Developmental ideas About what my family would look like Loving him changed Or challenged all of that But the way he loved on me Informed so much About What Love Is And what you can experience in a life When your partner Genuinely gives a fuck about you Like what that actually feels And it's like It's life changing It is life changing It actually Like it rewired my brain feeling that Which one I'm so sorry to hear about your dad But This was 10 years ago Like hearing We are in Hearing that It's like You don't even realize Like what love is Until you have like really good Supportive Whole hearted Love Where someone like really sees you And cares about you Thinks about you Before doing things And it's just like To have that You know as a friendship As you're getting out of that grief It's like So powerful Yeah it was intense And I was like Uh oh Do I? Yeah How many How long was it This is not what I was This is not compute I'm dealing with this But what's this I am confusion I am confusion Yeah it was Well how long was it From like Like going through all that Like how long did it take you to realize and start dating Um Maybe I mean we were a long distance Wow okay For three years Yeah Which I think you also have in common Um Yeah I mean he was in North Hollywood And I was in Creature Town That's long distance, girl Yeah I know when L.A. it is That's yes I've done long distance before it's tough Someone had a passport Somebody had a passport Yeah that's what I mean I'm pretty sure you talked about that before Like long distance thing is no joke It's really hard And it can also feel like You're constantly starting over Which also You have to rely on things And you have to rely on a connection And feeding that connection in a totally different way Yeah And so our friendship is super solid And I want to say it was probably four Five months Really after Developing our friendship That was like huh Something something's here Hmm That was that was me it's stuck up on me Yeah And he like asked me to be his girlfriend At first I was like no I'm not ready for a boyfriend right now And then I just like kept going on I'm like oh no like I genuinely had I really I love this person Right I was like oh shit Oh shit Yeah I was like didn't see that one coming No I was the same way Meanwhile had prayed for not to see it coming For it to be so plain Yeah But it was like where's this come from And that's exactly how it happened And yeah it was it's been a while while ride And so to When you experience people Who are in Partnerships Or in relationships That don't exhibit that kind of thing Where one is like one person is like I am doing trying my best And another is really not You're just like oh I'm not saying leave But I'm definitely saying Wake the fuck up To the partner that's not doing shit Yeah yeah I mean it sounds like I think like hearing her Rented depression can also make a person feel like They can't do anything And I don't want to be insensitive to that Because I do recognize that while it is not my thing It is not an issue that I have I want to be sensitive to the fact that like If he's dealing with this cycle of I just can't seem to get out of my own way Then I think as a partner you're trying to find ways to help you See that and to be honest Making dinner If that's the one thing you do today since you didn't apply to any jobs That's the answer That's and that's also a win Like if you're dealing with depression That is a win Yeah so get your ass up Even if you got to order it I hate cooking yeah If you got to order it and just Just shut it up And put it on a plate for us It's ready when we get home and we're ready to eat So that I don't have to come home and then also figure out that Grocery stores have so much good stuff Like pre-made or the deli Where all you got to do is heat it up And it's still really affordable Like I got the best chicken Chicken empanadas the other day And it was like two bucks for the big ass empanada I'm like how you can't You can buy 10 of those You couldn't make that for 20 bucks Like go Like go What do we do it? Do something I know Well and Besides get on my nerves I know I just like go on I just like shake him Cause it's like dude you have someone Who's giving you now four years of more chances Like you were at divorce four years ago And if she's saying you were at divorce four years ago She was already checked out then Because women Emotionally and mentally check out way before they ever fall But then she wasn't Because if it was four years ago And she didn't do it Eight-year-old kid you know Something's holding her back there He's fine He's fine I know He's got to be fine I don't know He has to be so good looking That every time she sees him She's like I want to picture so bad So bad Because She's got to be like He's still so hot And like In this little town There's no one hotter Doesn't matter how hot he is If someone's like acting like this Instantic You're dry There's no sex Regardless You're not wrong You're not wrong Once you get the Iq too You're just like She's in a motel Or steer yourself to fuck her You can't Like you got to get over that Iq Yeah It's got to be some makeup Involved to get me over that Right And if you can't do dinner We're still not made up She's in a hotel room Writing this Drinking Was it wine out of a plastic cup Yeah Hey girl This It don't have to be like this Uh-uh When you get home Tell that man to go Yeah I mean And a part of their deal Was he would go and get therapy That was a part of their agreement It's not always part of the divorce It's always part of the deal He's had four years So no matter if he's dealing with depression Mental health struggles are so real And so valid But at the end of the day You're responsible for them So is responsibility Yeah And accountability I know I guess what our time has come That's what our time has come To wish us a Oh, you go Bye To the end of the road Top comment on this one Quote Oh, you work full time while juggling the grief From the loss of your dad How could you expect me to cook dinner for us When I'm so busy being an unemployed man child Yeah I've got beers to drink This, ha ha You're grieving Handling a state Working full time And being met with utter selfishness He's unemployed Contributes little And complains about making dinner While you bury your father The audacity is staggering You're not insane You're exhausted From carrying the mental load for everyone And then someone goes And he's an alcoholic Which again Like therapy Like start Doing something about it Listen If you can, I can't do it for you I got enough on my plate I know And also not enough on my plate You know, she's not being fed at all She's not being fed at all Metaphorically Literally Girl, run for your life Ha, like Just go Like you could go and get some Pants Very crescent roles A rotisserie chicken I love a rotisserie chicken Spread the little roll Put the chicken on it Maybe some tortillas Rotisserie chicken You get some easy tacos And if it's so hard for you To do it by yourself It sounds like you have a son He's 12 Who can help He can help Like let's get Make it a fun dad son Activities Yeah, let's take care of mom for a while Shall we? Yeah Someone goes Re-read this And pretend it was someone you cared about asking You know it's time to leave him If not for you for your son He needs to know that his dad Is not what a good partner looks like O.P. response They see it They go Damn Damn Damn, that's it If that if that don't hit home for you And then they respond to themselves And they go and by that I mean True things Being said And then someone else responds Stopey and goes A good thing to hold on to Is your son was receptive To speaking and learning Hold on to that Because there's still time to ensure He doesn't repeat his father's mistakes I understand about aging parents And losing them It sucks It's completely heartbreaking And at times infuriating When the parent to child roles reverse Show yourself grace You're mourning two parents in quick succession You deserve better And O.P. goes I may have told him My husband That as I walked out of the door Quote At least your son is the kind of person Who will go after someone he loves Basically being like I'm going to the hotel room And you're not following me You're not Making it better He's not How can he follow you He drunk He's in He's in the kitchen waiting on somebody to feed him My God How can he follow you And also To be honest You don't want him to How can But I'm going to This maybe Don't at me Okay But How can you now start to require him to do something He's never shown you He was going to do In the first place Yeah Why would you assume that all of a sudden now He's going to do something He has never done No And like she even said Like he's not the type to follow someone He's not the type to chase So yeah No I think like someone kind of responded that And was like And I was a little passive aggressive And was like That was Progressive aggressive I mean I think maybe it's And like And also don't use Don't use the kid As No The The Weapon Or the The The rebargaining chip No that's Yeah No that's really good Let's Call us pay to spade Baby You mad at him Because he ain't Shit I can No Or at least Ain't shit right now Ain't trying to be shit You should make him a shit cake And right I want a divorce on it And say here I made you something Made you something Because you couldn't You couldn't cook me dinner Taste it That's real You know Taste it Taste it I made this for you Taste it We have no updates on this one No updates So we're going to have to keep our eyes peeled It's 28 days old Seems to be coming from a very real account The account is three years old So usually like people will question Like oh it's fake, it's fake If it's a new account, if it's a throw away Right But this person Is posting this on a three year old account And I mean Seems Seems legit Shit So There's hope for the kid There's hope for her To get out of there and go Don't let your ex-husband Stop you from meeting the love of your life Exactly Starting with you Get out there Starting with you Like Love yourself enough Because also I think that the Some of this like right Is about Getting to a place where we love us enough That we can see Okay, I see the scenario for what this is And I respect you enough to know This is not you at your best And so I'm not going to take so personally You not being able to To be the partner that I know you to be I believe you to be or wish you were But here's an opportunity for us to set some guideline for ourselves some runway For ourselves And this relationship Because either we're going to be able to come together And really Get back to or get to finally A real partnership Or we're going to move this thing on Respectfully I'm going to put a poll How many of you out there Think therapy And stay together Or Are you in my boat with me And we're just jumping to divorce I want to put a poll on this one Put a poll and also I'm going to put a I'm going to ask for a Nuth for at addition to the poll Okay And how many people want to see a picture of them Option C Show me a picture Show me a picture I would actually really like to see a picture of him Today not Ten years ago Twenty years ago Today Drunk on the couch Because that would be enough Baby No No, no, no, I'm like I want to see it But I fear I fear I would have to stage an intervention then And like literally show up at this ladies house Do you ever feel that way All the time And like some of these stories I've literally been like Hey, if you need help to move Like let me know Drop a pin I'll roll up with a U-Haul Let's go Because I get it I know how to drive big rigs I can drive the U-Haul No, that's right I know that's right I don't know a lot about me Get to it Get to a friend Get to a friend Like what do you think it is She said I will pull up I will Beat, beat Beat, beat Beat, beat Motherfucking beat Beat, bitch That's gonna be my new thing Beat, beat Okay Got a couple more for you out here I'm gonna give you a choice Okay Okay By the title you're gonna give me the title Okay Option number one Me With my boyfriend of two years He destroyed the painting I made for him Because it was a cheap gift Or Option two That one already pisses me off I just found out my mom Has been sending my girlfriend Cruel messages For who knows how long I don't know how to handle this Okay Can I ask for one piece of the Of information from me Uh huh Do you just want both Kind of Okay But here's the thing Here's the thing Okay With the painting Is it like one of those abstract Do we have a photo of the painting before it was destroyed Because like you know sometimes Painters are Silly And they do things like They'll paint a Something white And then put a red dot on it And be like Happy Happy birthday I did this for you No picture from what I'm seeing Like was this a portrait? Was it a landscape? Was it I'm sure we would find out Some more details Okay In the story Okay and then with the mom Mm-hmm Does the girlfriend deserve it? I I You know I know These are very valid questions Let's do about Okay so starting with the gifts Okay Me 24 female With my boyfriend 27 male of two years He destroyed the painting I made for him Because it was a cheap gift My boyfriend John Is extremely difficult to buy presents for He came from an affluent family And has a great job And buys everything he wants Whenever he wants it I am lower income I lost my job a few months ago And had to take on another one Which pays less And I'm struggling to pay my part of the rent And pay off my student loans It is difficult for him to understand this Most of the time I love to paint My boyfriend has said My paintings are very good And that he likes them a lot Since my income is so low I decided to paint my boyfriend a painting for his birthday Saturday I researched this for months beforehand I decided to paint a scene From his favorite game BioShock With him As a big daddy character I know it sounds cheesy But I honestly thought he would like it Because he always said I was talented And he loves this game I poured a ton of work into it A week before his birthday He had been hinting heavily At wanting a new iPhone When I presented him with a painting He asked me if this was his present And if I got him something else I told him This was his present And that I had worked on it for months Special for him He got upset And told me a bunch of awful things Saying that it's a Quote Cheap and lazy gift And that I was cheap in general I was trying to diffuse the situation And I told him that I was sorry He didn't like it But I wasn't able to get him the iPhone He took the painting And he didn't tear it But he sort of bent and crinkled it Completely ruining the paint He told me that I obviously didn't care About what he wanted And that I was bad at budgeting And all of this other ranting It came out that he resented Pain for groceries And utilities Even though he had agreed to this before It told him that if he wanted to discuss That we could But that this wasn't a good reaction He told me that I was just after him for his money And that he didn't want a shitty painting When he could apparently be in a committed relationship With another girl at his workplace Who makes way more money Then he told me Quote But I love you As though it was an excuse for what he said Then he said that this girl Had brought him a red velvet cake for his birthday Which is his favorite cake Which I didn't care about Haha Sorry That was the most gangster line I've ever heard Which I didn't care about I told him that I baked him a chocolate cake Earlier in the week with cream cheese frosting And that is basically red velvet cake He switched and said That she had gotten it from his favorite bakery And some random girl Knows which bakery he likes over me I just went to bed This morning he's gone And so is the painting He sent me a text saying he went out to an Easter Birthday brunch with his parents And he'll be back soon I'm not sure if I want to end the relationship Which has a ton of commitment involved He has never acted like this before about money And I don't know what's up Because he's still not telling me I think he might be interested in this other girl Or at least jealous of how much money she makes compared to me How am I even supposed to approach this I am already feeling very hurt about the painting And I'm not sure that's a good place To start another argument I definitely need to see the painting I really How many hours? How many hours are we talking? Like she said she's working on it for months For months Yeah but like how many hours have we actually been sitting in the middle of it? It's like five minutes a day Yeah like like what like what does this painting look like? Because this man is angry Okay This painting he must Does she not get does he not look good in the That she painted him as a daddy Is he like more of a is he more of like an otter or a bro Like I don't like I don't know like Did he look fat in the painting? Did I you know like there's there's got to be like Bio shot nobody looks cute in bio shock that I know of I'm literally so I I know you what bio shock was Is this what you're envisioning? Yeah that's what I was envisioning And I don't know that that's exactly what I would want For my birthday gift but I would not That's for my birthday gift at all But I can also tell you that like he also maybe lying about what he thinks about her art Yeah And wanting to just be encouraging to her like Oh baby you're happy It's really nice. I'm glad that you have an outlet of creativity That's what I'm gathering like don't I don't want this is gifts for me No, that's what I'm gathering I'm gathering someone like Just being like yeah, I love that you have your passion Yeah, super supportive but like Doesn't mean I want that for my birthday But in the same breath like your girlfriend is going through a really tough time financially Yeah, she's not gonna buy you a new iPhone Do you know this it's on real how expensive the new iPhones are getting? They are expensive like I remember when the iPhone was like what 400 500 bucks. Yeah, I mean I was just saying but it can't be $299 a month on clarina Put on layaway I know put on layaway But I mean if it's that serious I know But also I think that there's a real disconnect happening here between this dude and reality If she's saying I'm struggling to like contribute to rent and groceries Expecting her to have saved money to buy you a phone Is kind of lunacy right and clearly there's something going on with this girl that work and he wants you to know And now it seems like the opportune time I know I mean because he didn't say nothing when she brought the cake No, no, now to bring the cake up. Yeah Well, and my partner in the cake home her comments here I think he might be interested in this other girl or at least jealous of how much money she makes compared to me I'm not sure if I want to end the relationship which has a ton of commitment involved Is the commitment that you live with him? Is that the commitment? Yeah, and I think Because I just commit me I think so but based on the comments like I think it's more so like Oh, he says here like ha ha he's definitely not the best guy He says a lot of things in anger, but I'm definitely considering breaking up with him because of my financial situation and the least This would be very difficult however So I'm wondering if there's any way this could be worked out. So it's almost as it's like biting time She's biting time or like I don't really want to break up because like I do have this great situation with like rent And he pays for groceries and utilities and whatever so I want to eat And rightfully so things are expensive like that sucks if you're down on your luck and struggling But also maybe he feels that doesn't which he kind of made that comment because if he does he feel does this dude feel like you're actually just Kicking it could so I'll take care of you in this time of your need like I mean he kind of implied she's a gold digger I mean is she I don't know I'm gonna answer you. I don't know no gold diggers that can paint I'm just other skills Grindin the like it's not like she's like I quit my job to be an artist and her art is just like not sustaining her even What I mean by that is it like it don't necessarily to me sound like this is she doesn't give off the kind of from this post no gold digger energy But if his interpretation of her Situation is it feels like you are taking advantage of me that is the conversation This birthday gift is just a simple another symptom of that Because what when it also like if you read a little deeper it also feels like he's like You got iPhone money somewhere. You just not spending it on me Or on these groceries. I know that it's like it's almost like he maybe is just kind of unaware of her Financial situation truly because in his head he's like you're not really paying as much as you should for rent I'm paying groceries. I'm paying utility Which doesn't even give me the red velvet cake from my favorite bakery which like granted men are simple And a lot of ways silly silly human beings But based on the what on this share doesn't it also sound like there's there's some information about her her financial situation that we don't know Because like because like if you are broke and we live together I know how broke you are. I know like you think there'd be more transparency between them Like and if I know you can't pay rent I'm not asking you to buy me an iPhone and so like if you're just not paying rent though Because you're like you got it and I'm like well I don't want to have it you are and you are making some money You're getting some money from something Yeah, you can contribute so you can contribute if that's not the conversation didn't come to the head You know But the the I'll be honest with you the the most fascinating part of all of this is is the girl at work With the red velvet cakes. She's probably he wants her Definitely wants her Have you ever bought you ever gone to a specific bakery for a guy you're not fucking Nope for his birthday to buy the cake that he loves No for a dude that you just work with no those bougie bakeries those are expensive cakes Like $40.50 cake yeah, like we got we got to We do red velvet red velvet is a bougie-ass cake and chocolate is not the same as red velvet I'm gonna tell you right now. It is similar. It is not the same. We do have a little bit more context about him O.P. shares a muffin incident in the comments He thought I was making blueberry muffins and threw one across the room when he realized they were cranberry He's a little brat He's a brat, but here's what I here's what I'll tell you she knows that and she's okay with him being a brat She's just got to figure out where she's gonna live and she's like Do I jeopardize my my housing right now go moving with your girlfriends have fun Live with your friends and date Doesn't have a picture of the painting was hoping to get a scan of it before it was framed Didn't do that here's one okay, so here's what I'll tell you You work on something for months and you don't take one picture of it progress. You know start finish Him standing next to it when he when he when she unveils it nah Let me tell you something that painting wasn't no good. I mean I didn't say it if you're out there listening I'm sure it was beautiful. I want to see I'm not so sure and I want to see We do I want to see say if you were listening if you painted this painting and and you are listening to this I am skydiving on social media. Please DM me a photo of this painting and I I will take it back But it sounds like you think it's ugly. I think it was it it wasn't flattering and it wasn't good well We it seems no I would like to know but I will say this is a 10-year-old reddit account So again, it's giving real account real story. Oh, yeah, I'm definitely not I'm definitely not getting falsity falsehood No, we do find out more info that I moved in with him because I love him I signed a lease because I loved him I pay half the rent every single month It was him who opted to start paying the utilities. I pay all of my student loans not him I am worried because I will lose money on the lease that I do not have and I cannot afford to lose money right now That's real. Let him break the lease Straight up let him pay his way out I'm with that um op does also share that he Isn't like the most attractive All the more reason I don't know it's maybe not stick around with someone who breaks your painting you even even if he didn't like the gift his reaction is diabolical crazy You didn't give me an iPhone snaps the painting and also the muffin the muffin Bro, we got some issue we got some anger issues Let her resolve we got to it's time to grow up put it back on the counter I know you were looking forward to blueberry but cranberry is still pretty good And if you don't want it put it back on the counter to throw it also She seems like the kind of lady who you know if you wanted a blueberry muffin go get the blueberries I'll make the muffin. I'll make you blueberry muffin as that you want it Yeah, but the thing is I told you yesterday I was gonna make cranberry muffins you forgot you and thought it was a blueberry Or weren't listening to me. Yeah We get an update. We got an update. We got an update. Oh Hell yeah update I have an update when John didn't return after a couple of hours. I read your comments got a little pissy and invited over a couple of girlfriends for drinks and complaining I did a lot of complaining and they basically said what you guys said John did not return home after his Easter brunch. So I ate a tray of lemon bars Yeah When I got home from work today he had the painting and he had put it in a cheap dollar store frame It was wrinkled flaked and ruined beyond repair He told me that he was sorry that he had gotten so upset and that he was just expecting a different gift I asked him where he was and he said he stayed with his parents for the night and borrowed work clothes from his dad There wasn't any of his daddy's clothes Opie goes yeah right I directly asked him why he was so upset when I gave him a painting that I worked so hard on He said that he pays for everything and gets right fully upset when I don't use all of my extra cash to be thoughtful I pay for half the rent on this expensive apartment all of my student loans. I have no extra cash He buys the most expensive part of the groceries like a pound of pine nuts a week and expensive gelato Always in the freezer and cranks up the AC and heat and leave the lights on We would have countless arguments since I would be paying half of a huge bill that I contributed 10% to He started paying for utilities and groceries at his insistence After it started to take a toll on our relationship I told him that if he was so upset we could split the utilities evenly again But I was mad that he took out his temper on me and destroyed all of my hard work He started saying things like quote You never loved me. You just knew I was a prized pig etc Our degrees are the same. This is how we met But his dad hired him right out of school and I was left to find work for myself I don't resent him for this But I wasn't even aware of this economic status while we are initially dating And by the time I learned I was already invested into the relationship Trust me when I say he's never been this aggressive before in our entire relationship I knew something was up. Yeah, I was super pissed and I outright asked him If he was fucking red velvet that's it literally the words as you were reading them I was like is he fucking red velvet his work friend He said that a while ago they went out for drinks after work with a whole group and ended up kissing afterwards I asked him if that was all that happened then what and he said yes Lies I kept asking him what his problem is why he has to compare me to other girls Why he tore up the painting why he is aggressive now when he hasn't been before I know I was probably being annoying But I was so mad He kept repeating the money thing over and over Finally, but you don't make any money. That's what he kept saying. I guess I pay for everything. You're broke So I can do whatever I want your broke Oh Imagine being in a in a disagreement with your significant other and there's like you're but you're a brokeie You're broke you're like But you're broke all the time. You're just a gold digging Ho ho and like you're just using me for my money. I'm a prized pig. I am a prized pig Oink oink bitch Oink God What What Finally he broke and told me that it wasn't just a kiss He said that he and Red Velvet had started going on little dates during work hours They did not have sex, but they are basically in a relationship He said he was falling for her and felt as though she was better for him and wanted me to break up with him Clear part of the painting thing was his resentment towards me financially And part was him wanting to hurt me enough that I'd break up with him Yep, I guess that the fight about the painting was when it got real for him And he wanted to fix it and break it off with Red Velvet He and I had signed a one-year lease and we still three months left But I told him to get out of the apartment and that we're breaking up and he did leave with some clothes I'm not sure if he's coming back Maybe he's staying with Red Velvet. I don't care Not anymore This is the ha- this is the ending that we all wanted Yeah, oh There's more Edit to add I do not have a picture of the painting But do have one of my pencil sketches uploaded and I will send the link to people who request it Request the fucking link I'm sending her a message Send her a message Starting chat now Oh, it better be the best fucking sketch I've ever seen You can't be mean if she sends it What? I won't be mean I mean, I'm not gonna break the sketch That's true You know what I'm saying Okay, I sent her a chat We'll see if we get anything back by the time this episode comes out. Oh, please I'll send it to you. Yes, and I'll if if I'm not here if we can't if I will film something after of the Genuine re- at first reaction And send it to you. I know Last comment we have from OP is He is quite chubby. Ha-ha good riddance. He'll have himself a nice slice of Red Velvet cake Wait, do we have a picture of him? No, no picture of him. How do they know he's chubby also? I'm just realizing Uh-oh this post is 11 years old. I don't know if we're gonna get a picture So the reason it's recycling is because one of our friends direct caterpillar 77 Just posted this on the best of redditor updates 18 days ago. Okay. Here's what I'll say. Okay. If Someone else has ever seen yes, that please Send it to us. We must see the sketch Okay, I feel like someone out there has definitely seen this I think someone could send it to us. I have faith. I'm also gonna say that if you destroy it and then put it in a frame That's just new art and don't call it happy birthday call it happy breakup Hmm there you go. That's you somebody somebody heartbroken will buy that somebody rich Will be like I want that heartache. I want to buy that. Yeah, I mean I mean art Art basil basil whatever that fancy thing. It's called. Yeah, I mean people literally buy trash. So yeah bananas stuck to a wall It's crazy. It's so much fun though. It's so much. Oh god. It's just past. It's so much fun. Hmm. It's a good time I've never been to Miami. What? No Do you always just go back to Minnesota? Yeah, either they're France Yeah, you see what I did there. That was the fucking yeah, you trying to troll me with Minnesota No, that was the fucking baddest that was the bad that was the fucking The the best possible response you could that was badass I have my moments where my brain thinks fast. Yeah, that are France. I know I was gonna say can but I didn't want to You know, no, that was even better. That's even better South of France. Are you kidding me? Hmm There you go. That's it. Okay. There's one last one before I release. Yeah, you know, holding you hostage. No, it's been quite nice I have listen. I'm cozy. It's quite nice having you here. Yeah, those last couple did make me a little hot though I was I was all in the blanket and everything No more This last one coming from our slash relationship advice 17 days old titled I just found out my mom has been sending my girlfriend cruel messages for who knows how long I don't know how to handle this male 36 girlfriend female 32 Generally not much rattles me my friends call me a stoic emotionally constipated idiot And they're not wrong Which is why we're all still a little stunned that the love of my life is basically my opposite I've been with my girlfriend for eight years known her for ten She's quiet gentle brilliant and actual whole ass professor And genuinely one of the kindest people I've ever met She's silly shy goofy in the best ways and loves to poke fun. I love all of it I love her more than I've ever loved anyone ever in this lifetime But last night something happened that I can't let go of My phone was charging so I was scrolling Instagram reels on hers like I usually do One of her friends DMed her normally. I'd send back some dumb reaction photo So they know it's me just a thing in our circle right But it wasn't a joke It was screenshots my girlfriend had sent her friend And the friend was trying to comfort her Most poor red flags going on here, but okay I hesitated and then opened the screenshots to read better and I'm glad I did I didn't even regret it anymore because what I saw were multiple messages from my mother cruel ones And the timestamps weren't all from the same day So I don't know how long this has been happening a week longer No idea Some of the messages my mom sent Oh they hooded messages Maybe he hasn't proposed because you haven't given him a child Men don't marry placeholders That was the most recent one this one makes me see red I can't even imagine how my baby felt Next one quote If you stop dressing like a teenage boy and put on some makeup Maybe he would see you as a wife instead of one of his little friends Quote You're keeping him from his family He used to visit For clarity I'm the one who pulled it back because of her behavior towards one of my sisters That's a whole other issue So nothing to do with my girlfriend Quote You think you're special? You're lucky he even brought you home Girls like you don't get commitment from men like him What the hell is this? Next one quote You're not good enough for the life he deserves Reading them made my stomach drop They were hateful and completely false There's even more But these were the ones seared into my brain And my girlfriend didn't even tell me about any of them She's just been carrying this alone Smiling laughing with me All while this garbage was sitting in the back of her mind My girlfriend avoids conflict She hates upsetting anyone I get it It's easier to talk to a friend first And my mom Can be da da da da Intense She probably didn't want to put me in a position Where it looked like choosing sides But I've chosen And it's not her I'm angry with I'm furious at my mother I'm exhausted by this She knows how much my girlfriend means to me She hears me talk about her constantly I really thought she might actually be happy for me At the same time I don't want to make this harder on my girlfriend Or make her feel exposed So here's where I need advice I was okay Because that was like, it's not, bruh It's not like we already, we already Why are you unread it? And not on the phone with your mom We're like this Do I tell my girlfriend gently that I saw the messages That I'm on her side And that she doesn't need to shield me from my own mother Or do I handle my mother privately And not bring it up unless my girlfriend does I just want her to feel safe and supported And it makes me feel sick that she's been dealing with this alone I mean, actually sick I'm just watching her make breakfast And I just Da da da da da What's the best approach That prioritizes her well-being first Well I love him What do you, right? First of all I love him If it doesn't work out with him Call me Well wait, actually never mind Because you might not sound like she's okay Yeah, no You might not sound like it But I'm not his girlfriend So, try me Send me one of Dave's messages I can't wait You know what I mean Could you imagine Could you imagine If you would stop dressing like a little boy And put some I can also hear I can hear the voice Stop dressing like a little boy Put some makeup He wouldn't look at you Like one of his little friends I have family that talks like that So, that's what I'm gonna say We'd be fighting They would never talk to a significant other Like that But like This feels very familiar to me If you know what I'm saying You're not This one though You're not good enough For the life he deserves I'm gonna tell you I've heard that I have heard that What? Statement said I have heard that statement Did you clock him immediately? No, no, no It wasn't said to me About someone that I was dating But I have heard A family member Say this And that is crazy It is You can You might think that shit in your head But you never say it aloud Sometimes you gotta know And in this particular case This particular case I wouldn't even say that they were wrong I'm just gonna say that I'm just gonna say that Totally kidding Mostly Mostly But it is If the idea Is to be What do you think Honestly I would want to know If you were the girlfriend Yeah, I'd like it feels Oh so so fucking good If my boyfriend came to me And was like You know I was on Reels Like like I usually do And message popped up And I saw what my mom's been saying to you And like That is beyond fucked up I wish you would have told me I get why you didn't You didn't want to choose Or make me choose Or whatever But it's not okay And Just so you know like I'm gonna address it I have already Addressed it Oh So that's what you think You want him to go to mom first Hey Source Sup Yeah With screenshots What I guess I guess what do you do if mom's like Oh she told you We're not there yet This is how you feel To mom This is how you feel mom This is like This is this is the woman That This is who you are I'm just looking out for you I just want what's best for you You know I love you This is an indicative of love This is control I'm just trying my best Yeah I wish you were And what it feels like You're trying your best at Is to make this woman feel Like trash Because if you cared about me And you see how happy I am with her If you felt this way you'd come to me And I'd be able to tell you that The things that you're concerned about Aren't my concern Or we'd be able to have that conversation That you wouldn't be berating this woman Through text berating And Don't you have other stuff to do, ma? I'll start your needle Point or something You got water aerobics at three You got Miss Jans birthday party at the castle in Italy She's like she turned a 75 on Tuesday Like bake some sourdough, come on Yeah like what are we doing And I get that you love me Yeah And I love how intensely you love me But this is too far This is true This is too far It's too much And I need you to apologize Oh Yeah I need you to apologize to her That's the bare minimum And I need to apologize to her Point forward We're going Low Low Low contact If not no contact I just don't know how you like could trust her going forward And like I think opening the door between your girlfriend too Is going to help like hey No like You got to tell me if my mom saying this crazy shit Yes crazy Like this is not okay Like unless his mom is like I was hacked Like I think that this is a This is a They hacked my phone I didn't even know Honestly old people do Get hacked quite a bit Quite a bit But usually it's like Plot twist Hey Send me some money Like Go by these gift cards Yeah go by the gift cards My Grandpa My grandfather also Literally got hit so hard From that He almost did He told me he was in the grocery store Bying I'm getting ready to buy the cards Because he said he felt like He knew it was a scam But he wanted to see how it was going to end Yeah Oh my god And That there was a woman in the Checkout lane Behind him That told that The difficulty he was having With trying to pay for the card And the person on the He was on the phone With the person scamming him And Trying to buy the card at the same time And he was the guy was like No, no just buy the card Just okay Just do this do this And he was like Do what Do what And he was kind of like Fucking with the camera The lady behind him said Sir are you Are you buying these cards for yourself And he was like Oh no I'm buying them for the person That's on the phone Oh what a hero But for the person that's on the phone So they can erase my The virus is on my computer And she goes Sir hang up the phone now You're being scammed And before my grandad could be like Is that right The guy on the phone hung up Isn't that crazy What a little hero I see I think like all the people Selling gift cards these days Should like ask people Especially seniors Well now there's a limit You can only buy like two Or three gift cards at a time Yeah And grocery stores and stuff I think my I forget how much My grandpa lost But I'm pretty sure it was like At least Five digits Damn they got him Yeah Yeah and he literally got scammed Shortly after again too And I'm like someone Just like Take his bank card away Leah You gotta get him on the play phones We only call his two numbers Yeah Is like a walkie talkie I know I know Damn Well I just I feel like in this case 100% we're going to my Independent of girlfriend Yeah And we're also going to girlfriend And we're reiterating That we are in this together And how much Whatever it is you're dealing with Whatever it is you are Navigating We're navigating it together Together Especially with my mama It's my mama It's my mama And I love your time boy You know what I'm saying Fresh face I mean you see me I've been wearing rugby polos Non-stop I almost wore one today That would be like three episodes in a row And a rugby polo And I can't do that But I literally I feel like when people Maybe in the wild They have no idea what my sexuality is I dress very Rugged You don't know And I use the word partner I dress very rugged I dress rugged I wear like a barber barn jacket With like hunter wellies Who am I I don't know I don't know And neither do you I love a mixed war job I'm into it But that doesn't mean that no one will love you Or commit to you No But I need like you don't get to say that to me Because I'm comfy No I dress like that And I got rings We're fine We're good Thank you You know what I'm saying Where would you want to wear She's so weird about clothes Why are clothes so gendered Just where the fucking fabric you want to wear In the cut you want to wear it in I'm going to also just like But parents be Karen And parents be Parents are like They have an idea Of what the life they want for their kids And they have been Maybe Preparing their kid for that life Right Entitling themselves to experience that life also And when people come into their kids' lives That don't fit that It's hard to adjust So like My gets some grace But like Hey It's time to change behavior Oh yeah Hardcore Yeah we're doing a full 180 on your behavior Or you're Gone You got a Well you can she mama she can't be gone No she's going to be gone from my life I know you might as well be dead Because you're dead to me I know Well you are fiery today I win a toss toss Okay Top comment As an older guy who's cut out his mom You need to do the same First you need to sit down and tell your girlfriend Let her know is an accent that you saw But you are glad you did Let her know you're on her side Tell her you plan on putting some space between you and your mom Also Block your mom on her phone So she no longer has to put up with your mom's toxicity Second you need to lay in your mom For her ship behavior Put some boundaries on how you And your girlfriend will be as far as contact goes from this point forward This might not be a popular opinion But your first priority is to your girlfriend Family doesn't mean shit When they treat your partner like shit Family is not the family doesn't mean shit But again we got to look at what we are in reality We're dealing with reality Not the dream or the fantasy Not the potential We're dealing with where we are And like my Not okay Not okay And as a result Like we got to work at getting back to a place Of hanging out You know And being around because now it's just really uncomfortable We do get an update I just found it accidentally I thought it was game over but I do We have more Why do you keep doing this to me I don't know But look at the end Like what a good note to end on Is it a good note? Maybe I haven't read it because I just found it What if it's not a good note I don't know I see a lot of heartbreak emojis so She left them I talked to my girlfriend The same night I made the original post We're working through everything together right now And things are headed in a All caps Good direction Oh great I'm not ready to write the full update yet Since there's a lot to sort of privately Before I come back with all of the details But I did want to say something to the people Who reached out when I was clearly not in the best headspace For transparency I told my girlfriend exactly what happened That I panicked Had what I'm pretty sure With some kind of anxiety attack And ended up here on big beautiful Reddit Asking a question that in hindsight Had a pretty obvious answer Correct Not my finest hour Considering I'm usually you know the calm one between us I guess I was bound to pop at some point Was this popping? Hit Reddit was popping? I guess That was like very tame and controlled to me now I'm gonna say this right now If brother, if this is you popping If this does not work out with this girl Please come here Couple of Couple of thruples streaming Opiecock Okay Oh there you go Opie goes on to say I even ugly cried on the side of the road Dr. Dot Jesus Christ I love him I like so emotionally in tune And like self-aware I love him Oh I also showed her this now So she's like his mom did a good job Fuck you're right His mom did a good job She's like my son is a fucking prize Then why is she so fucked in the head Because she's like protect She's like hey Step your weight up Put on some fucking clean clothes Don't you come here defending mom now I'm just saying now shit just got real He's crying on the side of the road Just pulling a pulls over He pulled over To be safe So he could cry It's hard to cry And not hurt anybody It gets blurry I'm driven through it He's safe He's such a little He is a good dude She did a great job And she is And she is trying to protect Or he went to therapy And unpacked a lot of trauma And developed into this really Healthy well-balanced Adult on his own Yeah maybe But I'm thinking probably For the sake of this conversation I'm thinking probably Mama did a pretty good job And mama has a hard time releasing now We gotta let go There might be something here Okay So he goes on to say I also showed my girlfriend this account And she like looked at me Then the comments and upvotes And hit me with Quote Bet you wish your actual account Got this much engagement Huh Destroyed me in seconds But so very accurate Broken heart, broken heart, broken heart Oh that's the broken hearts Okay, okay A lot has happened since And some of it was very eye-opening Turns out my mom has a pattern of this behavior After my girlfriend and I talked I reached out to my siblings And my younger brother opened up And told me that she did the same thing To his now wife years ago He just didn't tell anyone They both moved far away And kept their distance because of it That was a hard thing to hear But it explains so much Also my girlfriend is super close with my siblings So she knows, she knows She knows, she knows Yeah Anyways, to sum it up real quick My girlfriend and I are solid We're talking, we're being honest And we're on the same team I'm taking care of the rest I just wanted people to know Things are okay And we're moving forward And I appreciate a lot of you I'm too anxious to open up Any of the comments on the original post Some of y'all are brutal But real My girlfriend has been peaking for me though Happy holidays everyone Stay safe I'm in love with him That is Excellent communicator This is what like Quality storyteller This is what women want This is what everyone wants Everybody wants that Everybody wants that Whoever wants a man What's that? That's good That's real good That's really good And if he cute She get No He sounds cute Just by this He does Someone that shows up for you Has your back 10-10 every time I see like I see like soft brown curly hair You know Little Honestly, you know who I'm envisioning David Corn Corn sweat The new Superman New Superman I could see that I was thinking more like Reggae Jean-Page Oh Oh Also I don't know I don't know Yeah I don't know You know who's really doing it And I just heard a rumor Maybe A future bond Calum Turner I have heard Calum Turner I have heard Calum Turner I have heard Calum Turner Fiancé I think I don't know I think we got secretly married I'm not upset about that And that's a good Sitch She's cutie I like I like That's weird I like them together I like The two finger thing was kind of I like them together The two finger thing wasn't weird Because you weren't Doing a different It was Right It wasn't like a donut hole Yeah Yeah Yeah But this also Considering It's also This also strange Yeah Because that's giving like tip to tip Right Yeah It's a little And now I can't stop doing it I know You just like Ever that hard That's just gonna be like Bumping their fingers together I feel good It feels good It feels good So I Wait You heard I also heard That maybe um Dampson Idris New Bond Who Dampson Idris People People's pole People's pole Who is this Brad Pitt He was the other driver Informed In F1 I never saw it He's Yeah He could do it too Right And has the accent I know Is British They have famously said Or the assumption is that There will never be a black bond But we did get a black woman 007 That is true So I mean I don't I don't think that's Entirely impossible Just saying I mean Times are changing It was supposed to be It was supposed to be um John Reggae Whatever you just said Yeah sure was That's why you quit Bridgerton That was that That was the rumor And Mistakes were made You shouldn't have left Bridgerton Jonathan Bailey can do it all Come on sir I love it you get spicy like this I love it I love it It's my favorite It's my favorite My favorite is having you on Um Open invite Literally Open invite I down the street Anytime Oh I love this Where can people find you Where can people Listen to your podcast So so exciting We just dropped our House Party episode Holiday House Party episode for the podcast It's like an oh and I can hour of the best Most chaotic holiday family holiday party you've ever seen Okay Nisi Nash and Surprise guests We had a pretty big surprise for her And apparently became a very big surprise for Hersbind Jessica Betts as well Didn't see that one coming And a major major major announcement for House guests So Let's go Very excited we are taking this show in the road House guest is going on tour Are you so excited? 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