TQ56: What are you starting to hate as you get older?
41 min
•Feb 3, 20263 months agoSummary
Scott and Meredith discuss what people are starting to hate as they get older, exploring how hormonal changes affect tolerance levels, social obligations, and everyday frustrations. They analyze listener responses about declining patience for small talk, spatial awareness issues, physical limitations, and obligatory social events, while sharing personal examples of setting boundaries.
Insights
- Declining estrogen in perimenopause/menopause directly reduces women's biological tolerance for discomfort and social friction, enabling more authentic boundary-setting
- Aging correlates with reduced tolerance for performative social obligations, leading people to opt out of events that don't align with their values
- Reciprocity in relationships becomes increasingly important with age; one-directional conversations drain mental energy faster than shallow small talk
- Society incentivizes learned helplessness around aging through symptom-based medical models rather than preventive maintenance education
- Generational differences in aging frustrations exist, but underlying pattern is decreased willingness to accommodate others' needs at personal expense
Trends
Growing cultural shift toward rejecting obligatory social rituals (baby showers, bridal showers, holiday gift exchanges)Increased boundary-setting behavior in professional contexts (cancellations, no-shows) triggering stronger negative responses from aging professionalsRising interest in preventive health maintenance and mobility work as alternative to reactive medical interventionsNormalization of opting out of social events without guilt or explanation as marker of aging maturityPreference for depth over breadth in social connections, particularly among women experiencing hormonal shiftsRetail frustration with frequent store layout changes as manipulation tactic driving impulse purchasesSpatial awareness and phone etiquette issues in public spaces becoming more noticeable irritant to aging populationsDisconnect between cognitive expectations and physical capabilities creating frustration in aging adults
Topics
Hormonal changes and tolerance in perimenopause and menopauseBoundary-setting and saying no to social obligationsSmall talk avoidance and preference for deep conversationsSpatial awareness and personal space violations in publicPhysical aging versus cognitive expectationsPreventive health maintenance versus reactive medicineProfessional accountability and cancellation cultureRetail store layout changes and consumer frustrationReciprocity in relationships and friendship maintenanceObligatory social events (showers, parties, funerals)Kin-keeping labor and holiday gift-giving traditionsLearned helplessness in aging and healthDrunk behavior tolerance and social gatheringsNeighbor relationships in apartment complexesPodcast guest reliability and scheduling
Companies
Publix Super Market
Discussed as example of frustrating retail store layout changes that inconvenience customers and force browsing of un...
Walmart
Mentioned negatively as alternative to Publix, with implication of worse customer service and shopping experience
Children International
Referenced as alternative charitable giving option instead of traditional holiday gift-giving to family members
People
Scott Johnson
Host of What Was That Like podcast, shares personal experiences about aging frustrations and neighbor interactions
Meredith
Co-host discussing hormonal changes, boundary-setting, and declining tolerance for social obligations with age
Jordan Harbinger
Podcast host mentioned in sponsor segment; known for interviewing diverse guests including bank robbers and actors
Wes Larson
Wildlife biologist and host of Tooth and Claw podcast about animal attacks, mentioned in sponsor segment
Steve Martin
Actor in Planes, Trains, and Automobiles film referenced in discussion of spatial awareness and personal space
John Candy
Actor in Planes, Trains, and Automobiles film, example of character violating spatial boundaries on airplane
Quotes
"When you have, as a woman, lower estrogen levels, your ability or tolerance to accommodate also lowers. So you know how women, we're very flexible. We can accommodate things. We can tolerate things. Literally, estrogen is the hormone that allows us to do that."
Meredith•Early in episode
"I just have like no shits to give about things and so things that I might push my way through or tolerate i'm just like nope not gonna do that"
Meredith•Mid-episode
"I am not going to waste my time with this person, you know. And this is when they're trying to sell me and make me become a client. How's it going to be when I'm already a client and they're working with other people?"
Scott•Mid-episode
"You just never know. You never know."
Meredith•Discussing neighbor relationships
"Life is too short. And, you know, I think sometimes they invite everyone just because some people are going to show up and it's just another gift because you can't just show up without a gift for most of these things."
Scott•Late episode
Full Transcript
Quick content warning about today's episode. There is brief mention of a murder-suicide, and it comes at the point where my neighbor is telling me a story from her childhood. So when you get to that, if you'd like to fast forward 30 or 60 seconds, you can skip that. Hey, this is Scott, and you're listening to What Was That Like? New episodes with guests telling their amazing stories are every other Friday. But today we have the Every Other Tuesday Tuesday Question. In the podcast Facebook group, we have a new thought-provoking question every Tuesday, and it generates some really interesting and sometimes deep discussions. We'd love to have you join us. Just go to whatwasthatlike.com slash Facebook. But if you're not in that group, we bring it to you here in a short episode every other Tuesday. We dig into the group archives and find one of the past Tuesday questions that we've discussed. Then Meredith and I answer that question, and we talk about some of the answers that came in from other listeners. And in a few days, I'm talking this coming Friday, a brand new What Was That Like episode. Let's do it! And we are back and recording. We're back. You know, I like all of our conversations, but this topic seems a little more fun than some of the other ones, maybe. Really? Yeah, for some reason. I don't know. I mean, I like some of these answers, and I'm anxious to hear what you say, that, you know, as you're getting older, and I'm like 20 years older than you, so what you perceive as something that bothers you while you're getting older i'm sure it's going to be something different well of course it's going to be something different than what i would say that's true yeah will be interesting the generational difference i okay i have like the most nerdy answer it well it's packaged in a nerdy way so let me push up my invisible nerd glasses real quick. When you have, as a woman, lower estrogen levels, your ability or tolerance to accommodate also lowers. So you know how women, we're very flexible. We can accommodate things. We can tolerate things. Literally, estrogen is the hormone that allows us to do that. And when you start into perimenopause, into menopause, your estrogen starts to decline. And so your physical ability to tolerate bullshit literally declines. It's so interesting. wow do you have an example of anything like this that you have experienced um yeah i just have like no shits to give about things and so things that i might push my way through or tolerate i'm just like nope not gonna do that so i've never really loved being around drunk people for example and now i'm like no not gonna do it you're an idiot i'll just leave the conversation. Now, if you're drunk and you're interesting, okay, but most people become less interesting as they get drunk. They talk louder and slower and they repeat themselves. I just don't have a tolerance for that. I also don't tolerate uncomfortable shoes. I mean, I barely wear shoes anyway. We all know that. You don't tolerate any shoes, okay? I don't tolerate shoes. I'm like, why? Why would I do this? And then the third thing is gossip. I just can't. I just don't have a tolerance for petty garbage. I'm just not for it. And so if there's like the way that all of this has come together and shown up most of my life is there are social gatherings that I just won't do. I'll just opt out. I'm like, no, I just don't want to do that. So if I don't want to do something, I think now that as I get older, I just don't do it. I'm not going to do it to be nice or whatever. So there's a little bit more of an edge, I think, to my personality that was quite soft before. Now I'm like, you're an idiot. I was talking with a podcast guest on a different show last week. And it was the second time that she was backing out the day before. And I was talking to her assistant. She's an attorney. So I'm talking to her admin person. and I just had it. And I was like, I'm sorry, am I confused about how a calendar works? Because you know what's funny about a calendar? I put your name in my calendar and then you put your name in your calendar and then we both show up. Am I confused? Is that not how a calendar works? You know, and I just like, I was nice, but that's pretty word for word what I said. This is a side of Meredith that we have not seen before. No, it comes out with health insurance representatives and flaky lawyers. I am kind of with you on that, though. If I make an appointment with someone and they don't show up, the first time I give them the benefit of the doubt because they might be lying injured in a ditch somewhere. Future what was that like episode? Right. Yeah, there's something good could come of it, you know. Yeah. But if they later tell me, yeah, things just got busy. And a good example, I just had a talking with a health insurance agent to renew my health insurance for next year. And we had a Zoom appointment and I was there and she didn't show up and didn't call or anything. And of course, as we record this, we are in open enrollment. This is the end of 2025. And she later said, oh, sorry about that. Things just got crazy. That's no good. I'm not going to waste my time with this person, you know. And this is when they're trying to sell me and make me become a client. How's it going to be when I'm already a client and they're working with other people? And I said, no, sorry, I'm going to find someone else. So, yeah, I can kind of identify with you on that. And it has nothing to do with my estrogen levels. So, well, you know, men, as they get older, also experience shifts in their hormones and that can affect, you know, social situations, their mood, how they interpret things. So you just experience it on a different cycle. Like men are the sun and women are the moon. So we're every 28 days. Y'all are every 24 hours. It's always with the planets. There's a book, men are from Mars, women are from Venus. Never read it. And that doesn't even mention the sun or the moon, you know? I don't, that used to be a popular book anyway. Yeah. Well, here's the thing that is starting to really get to me as I get older, and it's much more superficial than yours. It's when my local grocery store, where I know where everything is, I can go in there with my list and next week I go there and they've decided to just move everything to some other place. What is the point of that? Other than to piss everyone off. Yep. And I know there is a point to it. You know, they're forcing you to go down aisles that you normally wouldn't go down and maybe you might make an impulse purchase. And of course, after a few weeks, you get more used to it. So it's not as big an issue, but it just seems like a whole lot of work. I mean, I'm sure they've done the research. I shop at local here is the store is Publix and that's a big corporation. They've got stores all over and I'm sure they've done the research that whatever it costs to have their employees move everything from aisle four to aisle eight and vice versa. It must mean more revenue, but man, what an inconvenience. I feel you. And Publix made some big changes recently, I think all over the state. So you walk in and it's like you're in a completely different store. And it is annoying, especially when you're like, I'm going to go in, get what I need and get out. And instead you're like wandering around. Thankfully, Publix, where shopping is a pleasure, literally the dagline, There are people to help you. God help you if you try to do any of this in Walmart. You are up a Greek. Oh, yeah. No way. Walmart. I think we've talked about Walmart here. We have. All right. So let's hear some answers from listeners right after this. 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But I often don't know who to talk to at this party. And I feel very awkward. and the host's father is a former journalist and avid traveler and he wants to talk to me about Mongolia. So we have an appointment to go over all of my Mongolia photos at this party and I couldn't be more delighted. The host was nervous that her father was imposing things on me like, you know, she said, Meredith, there can't be anything you'd want to do less than talk with my, you know, 80-year-old father about Mongolia. And I was like, are you kidding? I don't know what to do with my hands when I'm at your party. Like, I feel very awkward. This is why you're attending the party, right? Yeah, yeah. And I said, it would make me feel much more at ease to know that I have a guaranteed conversation partner at a party. So I'm with you. So I'm with this listener. I'm the same way. I can identify with this so much. I don't like small talk. I like deep conversations. And it's funny, somehow I think I attract that to some degree. I met my new neighbors. I'm in an apartment complex now and the new neighbors directly across the hall, I was leaving and they were leaving at the same time and lots of questions. And she was holding a drink. She was already a little bit tipsy, but she was super friendly. I loved talking with her. And eventually she got around to asking, okay, a matter of fact, her exact words were, so what's your story? Because she knew I had just moved in. And so I told her, yep, divorce and blah, blah, blah. And then we got to my podcast. And when I told them what my podcast was about, they both looked at each other like a knowing glance. And she said, I might have a story for podcast. And, you know, people, a lot of people say that they don't usually, well, she has a story and I don't know if it'll happen or not. I'd have to talk to her sometime, you know, more in depth, but yeah, when she was eight years old, she was a witness to her father murdering her mother shot in the head. And then he killed himself. And I mean, they could see the look on my face like, oh, okay, this is a legit story. I mean, this is the kind of stories I do. She might have a story for me. I don't know. We'll find out. I will say, be careful of neighbors. You got to like treat neighbors, especially neighbors in close proximity at apartment complexes. Like it can either be great or it can be really bad. And then you're stuck because you're like right there. Right. We share a driveway with our neighbors and we were like watching them move in. And we're like checking them out. Okay, are they going to be cool? They have barking dogs? Do they have crazy children or weird roommates? Like what's going to be the situation? And we got so lucky because they are right there. But you just never know. You never know. Yeah. Well, in this case, she does not live here. Only he lives here. Oh. And of course, I have the dogs. And so I had to have a place that allows dogs, obviously. And it's been wonderful. I mean, the people not directly across but down a little bit have chihuahuas. I've only heard them bark once. And it does kind of piss me off a little bit because I go out and walking my dogs and someone who has apparently a big dog has just left their poop there for me to clean up. But I don't want to step in it. But that's just, you know, you have that anywhere. Yeah. So it's funny that you mentioned you don't like talking to drunk people. And I would probably go along with that. But sometimes alcohol can help to facilitate deeper conversations. You know, it kind of releases people's inhibitions a little bit. But there has to be a balance. You can't just get completely drunk. You know, it's the chemical courage, sort of, right? I think more than small talk, what I value in a conversation is reciprocity. You can be sharing very deep things with me, but if the conversation is not reciprocal, I'm still going to burn out in that conversation. You know, it might be interesting at first, but it, yeah, it can also set an imbalanced precedence for a future friendship if all I do is listen and all you do is talk, you know. So to me, reciprocity is the key. And I wonder if this listener feels the same because she says, I do like making friends, but I wonder if that's part of her preference also. Yeah, maybe. Okay, second one is, this person says, people who have no spatial or general awareness of those around them. They're like adult toddlers. They seem to think they're the only ones that exist in a space. I can't figure out if it's innocent, ignorance, or blatant disregard for anyone else. Have you encountered people like that? I don't leave my house enough to encounter people like this. ah okay it makes me think of the seinfeld episode about the close talker yeah you know someone who i forget who who played that um judge reinhold i think that i could be completely wrong on that but yeah anytime he was speaking to you he was like two inches from your face which is hilarious when you see it happening to someone else but how do you even handle that Oh, I don't know. The only time that I've experienced this is while in an airport or airplane, like while traveling, basically. And how the thing that I notice is when people are on their phones, but no headphones in, and they're like playing a game or they're playing music or they're watching Instagram reels. And then maybe they're also talking on the phone and they're using their speaker. And I'm like, you're in an airport. Why would you? Why? What would inspire you to think, you know, it's a great idea. Let's make this conversation comprehensible to no one and yet audible to everyone. Like, why? Yeah, that's where my tolerance for bullshit, like it gets, it can be bad because I'm like, I'm about to say something. And that's where I've seen it too. And I can think of a particular example, the TSA line, getting ready to go through security. You know, it's a long line. The person in front of you moves, you move forward. Well, every time I would move forward, the guy behind me would move up very close to me, right behind me. and I, it was uncomfortable and it wasn't, I mean, we didn't speak, we didn't even look at each other, but he was just standing right there, right behind me. And I just dealt with it because I'm thinking, okay, well, we're going to be out of this line soon. And what's the point of, you know, saying, Hey, can you back off a little bit? You're in my space. But you know, this, I just saw this movie over Thanksgiving. It's a Thanksgiving movie and it had a scene like this and it is so funny. Planes, Trains, and Automobiles. I'm sure you've seen that film. No. Oh my gosh. You haven't seen Planes, Trains. Why are you shocked every time you've ever asked me, have you seen this or that? It's always no. I know. I know. Okay. But well, everyone else who is listening to this is going to remember this scene Okay Steve Martin is the straight guy He the businessman He just wants to get one place to the next John Candy is the shower curtain ring salesman. And of course, they happen to, Steve Martin's in the middle seat on the airplane. John Candy is on the aisle. And of course, he's a big guy. He's already kind of dominating physically in this airplane row. And Steve Martin doesn't want to have a conversation, but John Candy is the outward extrovert talking about, so what do you do? Where are you from? And so finally, John Candy says, ah, oh, and he starts taking off his shoes right there in the airplane row. And you could see Steve Martin's face is like, oh, disgusting. He's not saying anything, but it's, oh, don't do it. And then he takes off his socks and he's just enjoying. He's, oh, this feels so great. I've been on my feet all day. I think he says, my dogs are really barking. And he's waving his socks around. And Steve Martin is the straight man. It's just one of the funniest things. In making my notes for this episode, as we're recording now, I watched that scene again and I was laughing so hard. People have to see that. I'll put a link to that. That's funny. Yeah, spatial or general awareness of those around them. I can understand that for sure. Well, the third listener says, the fact that the brain doesn't seem to age like our bodies, I think I should be able to do the same thing I did 10 years ago and my body says, no way. Yeah, that's true. I feel like though, we should be taught how to live in our bodies. Like it should come with an instruction manual, you know, like they should tell you, hey, you should stretch every day. Every day you should stretch, you know, and like, for example. But yeah, there's just no, there's no guidance, really. We're symptom based like, oh, you hurt? Go to this doctor or take this pill. But there's no like maintenance instructions. There should be. I think there are volumes and volumes of maintenance instruction. Walk into a Barnes & Noble or go into Amazon. Like, how do I stay fit? People don't read them. That's true. That's true. Nobody wants to do that. But yeah, I agree with you, though, and with this listener. But we have, it's something we have some control over, you know, as we age. We can try to, I try to anyway, and I know you do as well. You work out regularly, trying to stretch out that mobility as far as possible. Because I've seen people in my family and friends as well, but mostly I notice it in family, my parents, my in-laws, as they got into their late years, they could hardly move because they didn't move enough 20 years before. And I know you're really big on that. Yeah, but I just think that we have a degree of learned helplessness in our culture that, yes, there's books that we can all read, but we're more incentivized to be helpless. Go to the doctor, tell the doctor what is hurting. The doctor goes, hmm, I don't know, you're getting older, gives you fill-in-the-blank prescription, or they love to give you the scans. Oh, let's order an x-ray or an MRI or whatever. They're really not like, hey, here are three easy stretches that will increase your hip mobility. No. And to be fair for them, that's not how they were taught. But that's the problem is like we have this cycle of like it's acceptable societally to complain about your hip. But it's like a little countercultural. and now I think even political a little bit, to be like, oh, well, if you take glutathione, it will, you know, lower your inflammation in your body and you can recover quicker from your exercises. Like nobody, you know, doctors aren't, you have to like really seek that information out yourself. And there's so many existing obstacles in our society that really just make it so much easier to complain and take a pill. Right. And you're just like everyone else, you know? Yeah. All right. Well, the last one here says, I am often invited for the sake of being invited. There are friends I do not hear from often, but I get the kids party invite, the baby shower invite, and so on. I don't really want to go to these things anymore, especially now that I'm in my 40s meredith did you write this no but we're bffs i think i mean i feel this so deeply i i did not write this i am not an audience plant but yes like i yeah this is where the bluntness comes out a little bit because not only do you get these invites but now you get the like will you donate to requests, you know? And I'm like, no, no, I don't know you, you know, Sarah from high school. I will not donate to whatever. You never talked to me. Why would I? Sure, it's probably a good cause, but you know me, I'd have to investigate what percentage of the funds actually go to overhead costs. Like I'm going to dig deep and no, I don't want to spend the energy on that. I will keep my dollars or give them, you know, to a cause that I know that's already good. But yeah, I tell people I don't do showers. I don't do baby showers. I don't do bridal showers. I don't do bachelorette parties. So I will celebrate afar at home with a puzzle and hot cocoa. In my own way. In my own way. I will wish you well through the ether, but not in person with your tiaras and sashes. Thank you. And I'm with you. Why spend time doing something that you hate? Life is too short. And, you know, I think sometimes they invite everyone just because some people are going to show up and it's just another gift because you can't just show up without a gift for most of these things. But I recently declined going to a funeral. And this was it was just someone that happened to attend the same church that I used to attend. And I mentioned that I won't be going to this person's funeral. I mean, I could see based on what this person posted on Facebook that he and I were not in alignment on just about anything. And someone said, well, I mean, a funeral, you just do it out of respect. I didn't respect him. I didn't at all. So why? People feel obligated to do some things. And obviously you don't. And I'm working on that, too. But in that case, no, I am not going to go to a funeral. Yeah. And the beautiful thing about that is you free up space to do and think about things that you didn't realize you didn't have mental energy to do and think about. You know, because it is mental gymnastics to go to something and pretend to like it or to be fair to people that are throwing baby and bridal showers. you know sometimes they don't want a baby shower and they don't want a bridal shower but they're doing it because they're supposed to do it or their sister or their mother-in-law or their mother is making them do that and so it's not always the person's fault but when you can say like hey thank you but I won't be doing that it just frees up so much of everything in your life and you're like wow what what will I do next but so many of us keep on doing things because we're supposed to, or we've always done it. You know, it's like, like we stopped doing Christmas gifts a couple of years ago because, uh, well, I initiated it. I was like, I don't think anybody really wants to do this. And no one's, you know, got the balls to be the first person to say, Hey, do we like this? Are we having fun? Right. And so I became the first person. I was like, Hey, as an experiment, what if we just didn't give gifts? Like what if we just gathered, You know, there's no children in our family. We're all older. Why are we doing this? And it just kept going. And it's great because I don't have to do what's called kin keeping, which is like, this is something that often falls on the woman of the family where you like pick out a special gift for every person. And you're the one that wraps it. And you're the one that, you know, make all the things. And now I don't have to do it. It's great. I envy that. I think that's a great idea. And we did that one year. we said, okay, here's how I handled it. I said, instead of buying everyone else a gift, I'm going to sponsor a child. And this child was in Ecuador because we knew people in Ecuador and, you know, Children International, great organization, children.org, I believe is the website. And that's what we spent our money on. That for that Christmas budget went to, you know, $25 a month goes to this little kid. And a year or two later, when we visited Ecuador, we went and met this child and his mother and sister. And that was so much more fulfilling than just looking at somebody's Christmas list and, you know, what do they want? Okay, I'll go get it, you know? Yeah, that's a good idea. Maybe I'll try to, I know I would get pushed back. Well, that's why the word experiment is crucial here. You know, hey, as an experiment, what if we try this year instead of, and you always offer like an alternative, like, okay, instead of giving gifts, what if we just gather and everyone picks like a fun game you saw on the internet? You know how they have those funny wrap your hands in oven mitts and then try to unwrap a gift? Like those sorts of funny, silly games. And what if we do that instead? Sounds like something you would do at a bridal shower. You know that a very good point Yes that is true actually That would be a good Tuesday question What is the worst bridal shower moment that you experienced And then what is the most awkward baby shower moment that you experienced I like that. Okay, we are going to come back in a minute right after this word from one of our sponsors, and we're going to talk about some stuff you might like. Okay. I'll go first. Mine is an auto sprinkler system, not A-U-T-O. It's O-T-O, auto. oh i have not heard of this but is it something to do with the ears no it's a sprinkler system okay well people wash their ears out but no i'm completely way off i love that you went there that's very interesting no well you said oto like like there's some kind medical device to look in your ears it's an otoscope or something like that i don't know It starts with OTO. To be fair, yes. That could have a medical vibe going on. No, this is... There was a small element of logic in my guess, but go ahead. What is this thing? It was small, but I will give it to you out of respect. Yes. This is a sprinkler system. When we moved into our house, it was a new build. Not like a custom build, but just like the house was new. So I'd already been sitting here for like three months and so had the grass. And my husband, who loves him a good lawn, he was very concerned that this grass would die. And he said, okay, we started researching sprinkler systems. They're pretty pricey to install. And you have to know ahead of time, how are you going to landscape, right? Because you don't want to have to move it later. And I needed time to think about how I'd want to, you know, all my plants, I got to think about it. And so he found the sprinkler system that's solar powered and it reaches, I think, 45 feet and you use an app to geo map your yard. So you plug it into the hose, you set it out into the ground, it has a little stake. It's about the size of a very large textbook or maybe two textbooks together. And then on the app, you use your finger to tell it where to water in your yard. So let's say you have planted a new camellia tree. real example. So he made sure that it watered two inches of water on the camellia tree and then that it avoided the sidewalk and that it watered one inch on this other plant. And yeah, so you geomap your yard to it and it knows when it's going to rain. So if the forecast is 70% rain, it will not water your yard. So you end up saving money on water. And I think we bought two of them and it was like $800 for two. So one in the front yard, one in the backyard, much less than like a traditional sprinkler system. It's pretty cool. Yeah. So you said two textbooks. Is that the whole unit? Yeah. Or I mean, so there's no underground piping or anything like that. You connect it to the hose. Right. You connect that to the hose. So out of this stack of two textbooks, this box, it can shoot all different directions and it knows where the tree is and where it's all supposed to go. So it has to be powerful enough to reach every place it needs to water, obviously. Yep. Yeah. That is pretty cool. It's pretty schnazzy, I will say. It was definitely a good move because our yard is alive. And had we not done it, we would have had to put a lot more work into it. And then you're gone during the day. And then the whole, is it going to rain? Is it not? And so it's great, especially when we go out of town. It's just on. So we know, okay, the yard is taken care of. That is pretty cool. And is there a website for it? There is. if you just Google OTO, auto sprinkler system, then it'll come up. But I'll put it, I'll make sure we have the link to put in the show notes. All right. I am not probably going to top that one. But what I'm going to tell you about is my suitcase. Okay. I love my suitcase. And this was, I've had it for more than a year now, But this is the Briggs & Riley Global 21-inch Carry-On Expandable Spinner. That's the model, okay? I feel like you just did a voice, like a voice audition or something. 21-inch expandable spinner for your viewing pleasure. In a world where suitcases are important. I never check luggage. so it's important to me that everything I need is going to fit into my carry-on. My carry-on and my backpack because the backpack is, of course, the personal item that most airlines allow you to take. But this suitcase, I saw it in the mall at the luggage store and the demo is what sold me. It's a typical carry-on suitcase, but when it's empty, there are a couple little notches on the side inside where you release the little latch and it expands up like about three inches three or four inches so it gives you all this extra space and so you can pile everything in there as much as you want and then you close the lid and then you push down. You hear like several clicks and it compresses everything. So now it's back to the size of a regular carry-on. So you can fit a lot more in there. You know, when I'm going to a conference, I usually bring at least three blazers along with, you know, you've got to have, I got to have shirts for a week and pants and socks and underwear and all this stuff, toiletries and I fit it all in there and it comes with a lifetime unconditional guarantee. So I've got, everyone has a little plate inside with a serial number. It's all registered and it's, and it's really high quality. You can, these wheels will roll over any kind of rough surface and it's just nice and smooth. The handle that expands is just feels really solid. And of course, you know, when it's compressed to its regular size, it fits overhead in the plane luggage compartment. And if it ever gets lost or if it gets stolen, I have an Apple AirTag always in it. So I can just pull up my phone and say, yep, there it is. It's the other side of the country, but at least I know where it is. At least I can visit it on the app. Yeah. So now it's not inexpensive. This is a $700 carry-on suitcase. But think about how much money do you spend over your lifetime on suitcases? I don't know, but you can never give me a hard time about my expensive sofa ever again. I don't think I did. I like your sofa. But this is, like I said, lifetime unconditional guarantee. So the thing that most commonly breaks is the zipper and they'll just either fix it or they'll, you know, you send it back and they'll replace it. And the place is right in the mall. So I can just take it there and they'll probably they would just give me another one and they'll fix that one and sell it as a refurb or something. I don't know how they do that, but I love my suitcase. That's pretty cool. I do love a good suitcase and anything like travel. I love travel accessories. accessories. So I'll be interested to check this one out. Yep. We'll have a link to it. We should pursue them as a sponsor, just saying, and then maybe we can get some free suitcases out of it. You know what I mean? That would be a great idea. You should, you should email about that. Okay. I'm going to make a note. I'll, I'll have Glassbox approach them. That's my network. Talk to Briggs and Riley about being a sponsor because, well, why would they be a sponsor now? I've just given them a free five-minute ad, you know? They don't know that. True. Okay. Okay, we'll have links to that and everything else at whatwasthatlike.com slash TQ56. See you next Tuesday. See you then. If you want to check out the current Tuesday question that everyone's discussing, head over to whatwasthatlike.com slash Facebook and join in the conversation. Big thanks as always to my co-host Meredith for joining me here each time. You can probably tell we enjoy doing this. And if you want more Meredith, check out her podcast. It's called Meredith For Real, The Curious Introvert. And I can tell you she's definitely curious because a lot of times she and her guests have conversations about things you don't normally hear talked about. Her website is MeredithForReal.com. And another big thanks to Kiona, our producer who puts these episodes together. And she has an amazing show too. It's called Birth As We Know It. Birth is Kiona's passion. And on every episode of her show, she brings on someone to tell their story about giving birth, all the way from conception to postpartum. Her website is birthasweknowitpodcast.com. And if you like hearing firsthand stories of people who have gone through something really unusual, that's exactly what we do right here on What Was That Like every other Friday. Just hit the subscribe or follow button right there on your podcast app, and you'll never miss an episode. I'm Scott Johnson. Stay safe, and we'll see you next time.