Too Early to Overreact to the Red Sox Start? // Mazz’s Tiers Reaction // Red Sox Callers - 4/2 (Hour 2)

I'm not sure what you're talking about. I'm not sure what you're talking about. These guys won't stop cutting and you can pretty much do it. You're a mass in perpetuity. Yeah. This boy talk, Randy in Merrimack. Who do we miss? Uh I want to ask mass about Dwight Gooden. Good one. Yeah, it is a good one. In fact, I had him on the list of people to choose from. I left him off. He was on the cover of Time magazine. Yeah Yeah. And again, for that matter, you have to be a man. You have to be a man. You have to be a man. You have to be a man. American darlings for a long time. Let me just again. The one ground rule is if you call up with someone we've already discussed, you are banned for life from the program. Kevin as his pen. We have it's like wanted posters back there. We have your name and your contact information, and you will be banned for life and no parole if you call with no chance of reinstatement like Pete Rose until, of course, you're not allowed to speak. Even if you haven't heard the segment. Just continue to listen. There's no need to call. If you haven't heard the segment. Correct Just listen. Nick Nick on the South Shore. Give us one. Yeah How about a Kurt Schilling? Yes not even just the, um, like you know him being a stumbag and costing the state of Rhode Island hundreds of millions of dollars but also like the bright part because most of you don't like him for his politics, which is not a just, is not a fall from grace. It's just pissy politics. That doesn't, but be that as it may, he is sort of has, and the Rhode Island thing's big. And I think he's just sort of been exposed as, fill in the blank. There's been a tier three fall from grace there. He should be a hero in this town. He should be. And he should be recognized and remembered primarily for being one of the great big game pictures in the history of the sport. And a lot of that's gone. And it's just gone because of him. You know, there's someone who was like that for a time in Tim Thomas. Tim Thomas had some of those same things, but if you've watched him when he's returned and done some public appearances and done some things with the team, it feels like that's been forgotten or he's smoothed it over. He's shown. He doesn't really talk when he's been back ever since that whole thing. No, and he's kind of, and we said the whole thing. I mean, he just got into a beef with the team and he's kind of out there himself. And he had some odd political views and all of that. But like, I think he sort of, it's hard to explain. He's been more contrite, more human. He piped down. It's really what it is. And he just sort of like, let it go. Shelling done, let it go. No. It says everything is World War three with the guy. And so he just sort of made it all worse. And so he has had that fall from grace. I applauded because I knew he would come up today. And it's a good name to bring up. Zach and Lemister, who'd we miss? What's going on guys? Thanks for taking my call. I just wanted to chime in on Antonio Brown with the asterisk that there could be, you know, the mental health and the brain injuries that he suffered as a professional player. But I do think that there's a tremendous fall from grace when you go from on a trajectory to be one of the all time receivers and a Super Bowl winner. I got it. Was he ever put on a pedestal? I mean, for NFL fans, he was a household name. Did Trello Owens have a fall from grace? No, I know what you mean. You know what I mean? Like, was he, I'd have to go back and think about how he was viewed when he came in or early in his career. But. No, there's a difference between being a guy who was a good player and being someone who became like, an American or an international icon on some level. Or if someone was always sort of considered a loose cannon or sort of a questionable guy and he just got questionable, that's not a fall from grace. He was always sort of that. I just, again, I would have to go back and sort of mine what Antonio Brown's rep into. And he was a lower round pick, wasn't he? Yeah, it's like a sixth rounder, I think. And my guess was is for a reason. He had talent. I mean, I don't know. Like, so again, I'm sort of asking on Antonio Brown. I'm not sure if he qualifies. John in the car, what do we got? I said John in the car. Okay, he calls back, Phil and DeDum, go ahead and Phil. Yeah, you got two quick ones. Boxer Tommy Morrison and Jerry Remi. Jerry Remi, do we blame him for the kid? No, I don't put Remi on this list. Yeah, I don't. I mean, you can question his parenting. I mean, that, but I don't know. No, I don't put him on the list. Tommy Morrison was always looked at as a tomato can. Yeah, me too. What sort of pedestal was Tommy Morrison of Ron? Yeah, but not necessarily looking for like, you know. The tears aren't losers. That'll be next week. Kevin in the car, go ahead, Kevin. You know, I got a two pack of dirtbags for you. Jerry Stadosky and Joe Paterno. Love the show. Oh, Paterno, I'll get it. Sure, they topple the statue. Like that's a fall from grace. Yeah, Paterno's Paterno. I'll give you Sandusky other than Penn State fans didn't even really know who the guy was. Correct. Paterno, who covered it up and let it happen. Joe Paterno, good one, which brings me to like Rick Petino across my mind. Yeah, he's come back, but. So right, he's come back. He's totally come back and people sort of don't even mention it, but he they locked the door of the restaurant. I mean, that's pretty bad. Kyle and Gloucester, go ahead, Kyle. Johnny Manziel. Did he get to that height? I mean, was he ever on a pedestal? And he became a real household name after that game against Alabama and, you know, he becomes this top prospect. But that was like, it was always a putz. Yeah, that was like the zenith of the whole thing. Is it surprised you that he had a drug problem or anything like that? No, no, no. At the end of the day, when when stuff like that came out, wouldn't you actually really say just the opposite? Oh, that makes total sense. He didn't fall from grace. No, he was never in grace. In fact, there are a million players like him who like came out of college and were, you know, Todd Morinovich, you could start. Yeah, right. Guys like that. Yeah. Bob and Worcester. Hi, Bob. Hey, what's up, guys? Why time for a time I got one name and one name only. It's Bruce Jenner. You're welcome. Oh, OK, so what is she? They what we have. What have they done wrong? You got me. I there's no crime there or anything. Is there no? I mean, no, I mean, I'm not. Yeah, no, you know what I mean? So it became a woman. Right. Like that is just a life choice, but I don't I don't think there was ever anything. I got to I got out of the athletic arena or I'm not online. I'm not in the reality world. So like I don't even really know. Wait a minute, though. I just vaguely know Bruce Jenner is now a woman. But that's all I know. Think she might have ran over people. No. Yeah. Well, that's bad. Yeah, that'll put him on the list. Hold on. Yeah. I don't remember. I don't know what to call her. No, I mean, neither. Yeah, fatal car wreck allegedly caused by the former Olympic gold medal winner. I forgot. Yeah, there is a whole lawsuit about this. And I remember it was parodied by South Park. So was she just kept running people over and killing them like as a it was a it was a habit. Yeah. Oh, well, OK, well, then that that puts them on the list. Matt in Danvers. Go ahead, Matt. Hey, what about Michael Jordan and or Bob Kraft? Does the H.J. get you? Is that that that enough? I mean, or taken for the keys. Oh, well, then to Sean Watson should be on there. Sean Watson. Yes. To Sean Watson. Yes. Justin Tucker. Justin Tucker, that creep. Yeah. Yes. Those guys. Yes. Yes. Yes. Craft. No. No. Who did the Jordan? Michael Jordan. Cambering. Yeah. Was there anything else? I mean, I think there was there with Jordan, but it's not been widely reported, you know, it's people still think he just wanted to play baseball. And was his father randomly murdered? All right. Listen, I don't think people believe it enough on Jordan to say there was a fall from grace. There's no body cam footage of Jordan like we have on Tiger Woods now. And guys like this, there's been no press conferences. We're whatever. Yes, ma'am. Oh, no, I know one that I meant to put on the list and forgot now that. I'll see if it comes up. Okay. How about Jason and Taunton? Yes, Jason. Yeah, guys, what about this two for one special? Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa. Sure. Yeah. You can give him that. Again, I would put them down in the steroid category with Clemens and Bonds and Alex Rodriguez, like the games, megastars. But yeah, definitely. Same, same, same class. Ricky and Plymouth, give us another one. Last pitch is a 130 games. Denny McClain. Old school gambling. Yep. Right. Yep. Yep. He won. I think he's the last guy to win 30. 30 games. As you just said, yeah. Oh, he did say that. Yes. 31. I think it was that he won. Yeah. That's a good one at that time. It was. And then he was suspended for a year. Correct. If you wanted that era, it was Paul Horning. It was Alex Karris. Yep. Len Dawson, I want to say. That sounds right. Right. Did any of a gambling thing? So yeah, there's a little there was a little era there. Were you in a prison for that? Am I thinking of someone else? I would. Was Alex Karris. I think somebody in that group went to press a prison. Yeah, I don't. There was a little bit of a gambling thing there in the NFL in the late 60s, early 70s. It was before my time. Oh my God. Yeah. He did a lot of time. Who's that? Denny McClain. Oh, yeah. Serve two separate federal prison terms are racketeering drug trafficking embezzlement. Oh, wow. OK. Well, that's he qualifies. Next level. Put him on the list. Kevin and Plymouth. Yes. You guys, Mickey Mirtle. Thanks. He was just like a fun drunk, though. Alcohol. I'm sure it wasn't all that fun if you were close with him, but I don't know that he ever had anything. I mean, look, scandal was a different age, right? There was no there were no cell phones, no body cams. Right, exactly. Chasing skirts showing up drunk. That was just part of being a Yankee back then. Yeah, right. So, you know, it's a reasonable guest to think there was some other stuff going on down in West Springfield. Yeah, guys, how about Antoine Walker the Celtics who dribbled away all his finances? Sure, I would just say was he ever in grace? Was he ever put on a pistol? I think he was a big enough name. Yeah, not quite big enough. And so there's got to be a fault. You got to be on some sort of perch to fall. I don't know if you ever got high enough to say there was a fall from grace. He's a troubled ball player, which can be another thing. The whole point of. Sorry, I've been blackmailed seven months ago. You want me to give you that name now? Yeah, Ray Lewis. Oh, oh, well, yeah, obviously. Yeah, good one, Lewis. Ray Lewis, I forgot I had him. But did he really fall? And he felt for like a half a day. It felt like it was quick. And I would also say I didn't hurt his reputation. I mean, it it did. It didn't hurt him from getting jobs and still had. He covers and evil, which we call it crying. I almost cry and pick stuff. Still, if you take away our game. Sorry, Ray, he's still the face of the franchise. He's still ESP, you know, like how far did he really fall? And then I would also say. I guess the headline was shocking, but was it really? Tough guy, you know, oh, yeah, like crazy, tough guy. Like, I don't know. I think I mean, he didn't. What was that, Ray? Yes. He didn't lose with a lot of other people lost. But I think he lost something, you know, maybe not a lot, but he lost something. So but, you know, crazy, tough, ass linebacker, you know, may have stabbed someone. Watch how much crime picks up. It's like kind of, I don't know. On one level kind of made a certain amount of sense. You know what I mean? Of course. It's a violent game. It's not like Robin Yelts. I just picked that guy. I'm just trying to think of Cal Ripken. Like, you know, a squeaky clean Tiger Woods was considered, you know, immaculate, like the perfect untouchable star icon. You know, that guy. And what he did in hindsight, next to these stuff, isn't really all that he cheated on his wife and as a drug problem. I mean, at the end of the day, that's it, which, you know, kind of common. Well, to use a football car, but he was on such a pedestal. We're talking about falls. Go ahead. Bill Romanowski did what Ray Lewis did. Would anyone be surprised? No, no, right? Or Dick Buccasso, you name it, right? Anyway, Jack Lambert, we continue with this conversation. Tell the truth. Your problem becomes part of your past. If you lie, it becomes part of your future. So I apologize for that indiscretion. I want to apologize to you as professionals. For that indiscretion six years ago. My extended family, which is all my players, that I'm sorry for that indiscretion six years ago. Six years ago. Pack with your thoughts right after this. Yes. Sean and Lawrence, go, Sean. He keeps saying, like, oh, I didn't actually watch the game. And whether it's Patriots, Celtics, Bruins, whatever, like, isn't your job as talk show host to actually watch sports? So I would say my job is to get you to listen. That is the job mission accomplished. Take this job and show. Belgar and less. 98.5. The Sports Hub. If I had to guess, I know that, you know, the issue with Verdugo and him getting benched was him being late and he hates that. So that would be my first guess as to why this happened. But I mean, the Red Sox YouTube channel did a special presentation on Narvaez's pregame routine. He's very routine oriented and it's almost like he doesn't. He doesn't come off as like, oh, that's a guy that like strolls in late. He seems super prepared. We interviewed him in the dugout last summer and he walked us through his entire routine, like what time he gets it. Like he just seems like a very put together guy. So it doesn't make sense to me because, you know, in the case of Verdugo, sure, he got benched for being late. That was probably like the ninth or 10. Like he Coral probably gave him every opportunity to be like, hey, stop showing up late, stop showing up late and he keeps doing it. Then you get benched for it to send the message where six games into the season. It just, I don't know. It doesn't. It would make sense if that was it. But with that guy in particular, it doesn't fit like in terms of the work ethic and the routine. And who he is. Yeah. We played to the crowd as cut earlier. We said there was a perhaps a lack of professionalism in spring training. In the clubhouse, at least one other guy, not in our vias. So something's up there. And I just think so, of course, telling them to screw their heads on straight. Who's telling him that? Because not exactly dialed in when you can't count balls and strikes. Good question. The middle of a big game. So I think that goes all the way around on that one. There's plenty of blame to issue right now. So they're already feeling it. They should. I mean, are they feeling it? I don't know. Cora, at least, is feeling it is the team feeling it. There was some interesting commentary during the game yesterday. Well, we were on the air, Lomar Lone and Dave O'Brien on Nesson about how, well, just them reacting to this slow start. Why don't you give me Marlone number one if you could, Jimmy Stewart? I don't care how many times, how many years you've played in this league. You've seen teammates, maybe you've gone through it, maybe what Durbin's going through now, what Wilson went through last year. And even though you still tell yourself if it was July, this would be no big deal. Overreaction week. We know that in the first week of the season. After the trade, after the All-Star breaks, very similar. It's like, oh, he's come out cold in the second half. It was the first four games you hadn't got a hit. And you've played this game forever and you know that. But it doesn't mean it doesn't still affect you. It's amazing how much pressure you put on yourself after a couple of games where you don't feel right, you don't sleep well. Only anybody slept well last night. Nobody. There's a bra who gets in 0 for 2. Nobody connected with the Red Sox organization. I was in my bed last night at 2.15 just staring at the walls. Like I played. Like, you know, like I'm sitting, what am I doing? Like you went 0 for 5. I'm not 1 for 18 right now. Like why? That was just couldn't get the best. So true, man. Up and away and Bazquez would like to hand deliver this baseball. It's amazing how that's true. I mean, this start is nothing what anybody want. And I know fans back home, I'm sure. And I think they're not happy with the start. You know, similar to last year. And it's a lot of people, you know, maybe had some questions about the roster, the team, who they're going to be if you questioned it. And you had a pretty good week. You know, you were right. Congratulations so far for the first five games. But. Seen it before, you know, this team was 40 and 43 on June 25th. You know, the one in seven games like 40 and 43. Yeah, actually one eighty nine eighty nine round. You three games under into June. OK, I just want to react to that because it's it was by those interesting commentary. You know, everyone's sort of staring at the ceiling. And then what happened the next morning with Narvae is getting. You know, benched essentially, maybe they aren't weren't all in their hotel room staring at the ceiling. Who knows where some of them were. But the point about being it's overreaction week. Yes, of course. And frankly, I've said this before, as a talk show host, I love overreaction week. It's one of my favorite weeks of the baseball season. You know, high or low. That first off day after the season opener is just a blast. We just spend two days just jumping to conclusions and overreacting to one game. I as a talk show host, I like overreaction week. But Lou says last year, they were still three games under five hundred on June twenty fifth and they won eighty nine games. And if you're asking me, can they do the exact same thing this year? Yeah, sure. Yes, I'm not. I'm not writing them off at all to be that. Can they rebound from one in five? Can they rebound from a bad opening month or two? Could they be three games under five hundred this year on June twenty fifth and win eighty nine games and qualify as a wild card? Yes, I think they can still do that. I seriously doubt they can be anything more. And that's sort of where I'm stuck. The whole idea, Maaz, is to improve on what you established last year. Correct. And they haven't in any sense. They haven't in any sense. They haven't on the roster, which is where it starts. They haven't in how they play. They're playing the exact same way as they did to start last year, as they've started a lot of these years. Errors, strikeouts, unfocused play, losing record. It's the exact same thing. So could they do the exact same thing as last year? Rebound qualify for the postseason? Yeah. But that's it. And so you you haven't moved the you haven't moved the needle. You haven't gone forward at all. That that in and of itself, Maaz, is a fail. Just doing what they did last year is a fail. Yeah, they should be. You should be expecting more than that. You know, and you have every right to. And that's. But the thing is, is this is part of the real dilemma with the Red Sox now over the longer term. This is where they want to stay. Organizationaly, they like that 87 88 win area gets us in. We get your money and then we get bounced or we're, you know, where we're trying to get hot and make some noise. But are we as good as the real iron and baseball? No. And when you have their resources, that's maddening. I mean, I don't know as a fan, how you how you can accept that when you know they're capable of more. So a year ago, again, you know, not to like keep going back to this, but they had Bregman and Devers side by side in the lineup when they came out of spring training. Anthony then came up. You could have Devers, Bregman, Anthony in the middle of your lineup. And we would all feel differently about them. And there was a time not too long ago they would have. There's a time not too long ago. That's how they manage their payroll. And that would have been the middle of your order. And they wiped out two of them because they don't want to pay him anymore. You know, the whole thing of Bregman wanted to leave is a really bad look for them, too. We all know that. If Bregman wanted to be here, he'd be here. Well, if you wanted to keep him here, you would have acted differently. You would have kept him here. So they, you know, they're just they're OK being 87, 88. They were OK being a B franchise. Here's the very latest in the world of sports with Murray. And then we're back with your phones. The Sports Hub. Larry's in and over on the Red Sox. Go ahead, Larry. Yeah, one thing I appreciate about you guys is you get a chance to rant and rave. And you guys are cheerleaders. Hey, I got two suggestions. Bear with me. The first suggestion is let's take Nate eating out of a whisk to bring him up and send Durbin not back to whisk. To send him back to the Brewers free. You can have him. No, no, no grottis, anything. The second suggestion is somebody had brought up the idea of another trade. Do not let. Breslau make any more trades and we might have a chance to have a decent season. I don't like either of those things happening, but. I did predict coming into the year that Durbin wouldn't make it to Memorial Day. So I might have overshot that even. But, you know, is Nate eating the? No, is that going to solve the problem? Way bigger than that. No, neither good players to put the bat on the ball. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, to your point, it's like some of their problems are really not fixable because you're not going to. There's not another Roman Anthony in triple A that you're waiting to bring up here to hit 30 home runs for you. They're kind of porked. Danny in the car on the socks. Go ahead, Danny. While Tony starting to get me infuriated, I think my bigger concern about winning maybe 88 or 90 and squeaking in. The issue is that that Baltimore got better. Toronto got better. And the Yankees now have their star, another star pitcher back. And so my concern is while John Henry is on his super yacht, the Eliza or whatever lining his pockets, we're going to go spend the money at Fenway. And we're going to get, you know what, and we're not going to be an October baseball. This is another good point. Could they straighten out like they did last year? Could they rebound from a bad start being under 500 at the end of June and win 89 games? Yep. 89 games doesn't always get you in. No. What did you just tell me about the Yankees off the air? They've given up six runs all year. Six runs. I was looking some of this up this morning. Max Fried and Cam Schlittler, who shoved it up your backside in the playoffs last year. Yes, exactly right. They are a combined four and O with a 0.00 ERA. Early here in the season, 25 strikeouts combined between the two of them in four starts. They have dominated and the Yankees don't even have Gary Colbeck. They don't have Rodin in there. Like so it's those two guys and they're mowing people. They're not hitting either, but they're winning. Right. And they're winning because they can pitch. You're supposed to be able to pitch and you're not even doing that. You're one in five. The red side, again, the Yankees give up six runs all year so far. It's like the fewest in, you know, something like 89 years or something like that. The Red Sox gave up six or more in every game of the Astro series. Scott and Canton, two questions. Number one, what do you think is going to happen to the Red Sox during the home opener tomorrow? When number two, would you like to see Andrew Benintendi come back to the Red Sox? OK, number two, no, me, I'm also a no. And on the first one, they're going to get their asses kicked. Who's pitching? I don't even know. I mean, I'm Joe. It's Sonny Gray, I think. OK, no, no, for them. I'm talking about Padres. Yeah, it's there. I don't know who's pitching to. Padres are a good club. I mean, I don't know what kind of start they're off to, but bad. But they they have a, you know, they got a good roster. They're doing for what's going to happen tomorrow. Is anyone going to get food? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Who's going to get food? Well, Durban will get food. Are we booing Durban or who we booing when we do that? We're really booing the front office. Aren't we booing the front office for trading or letting go of Alex Pregman? Yes. Yep. Absolutely. That poor kid's going to get it tomorrow. Then you have big time. Ranger Suarez, I wouldn't rule out getting hooded on a little. That'll be lukewarm. Does it does the crowd boo anymore? Not really. Not opening day. That's going to be like, you know, the olds and the children dignitaries. And then back in the good old days, oh, we were the fellowship of the miserable. Who do we boo on the Red Sox side? I'm not talking about like more Rivera. Yeah, Mike Cremo got booed one year, I think. Did he? Yeah, he had a tendency to talk. So the fans got on his ass pretty good. By the way, Michael King is scheduled to pitch, I believe, for the Padres tomorrow. So they're definitely going to lose the Red Sox. He's good. He's excellent. Really? Terrific. He is. He's good. I'm not kidding. They got him from the Yankees. That was in the Juan Soto deal, I think it was. So no, no, King's good. Yeah, that that feels like a 33. 33 inch Louisville slugger going right up your nostril. Again, it's a guy who's here only because you had another mid market team pick up his salary. That that's what's gross about Sonny Gray. He's here only because the Cardinals picked up his salary. He wouldn't be here otherwise. So you can boo him, but I know what you're really doing. You're booing John Henry on that one. You're booing Craig Bresel on that one. So we'll see what the. I'm just curious if Red Sox fans, they do here. We get it here because we're Felgar and Mazen, you know, they as the one of the previous callers said, we we're here for you. If you want to bitch and moan, like this is where you come and do it. Do they still do it at Fenway Park? Yeah, and I admit, usually not an opening day because it's a foofy crowd on top of it all. But, you know, I mean, you could get a little of it. One in five is pretty bad. It'll be going to be some angry people there tomorrow who'll be nice and lubed up. Let's hope. Let's hope. The additions to Maz's tears continue. Fill in the car. Who do we miss? Falls from Grace. Hey, I got a tier three for you. Adrian Peterson after beating his kid with a stick. Decent. Yeah, not bad. That's yeah, that that qualifies. Yeah, that's another one. That's that's a good one, actually. Cody in the car. What's your suggestion? Hey, what about Josh Hamilton? Refresh my memory. The old Texas Ranger player. Texas Rangers. What did he do? His was mostly substance abuse, right? Did he have any domestic issues or anything? Yeah, but didn't he come into the league? Yeah, he did. Yeah. As having problems. Yeah. So he didn't fall from grace. I think there was a relapse, if I recall. I don't know if he was a big enough name. He was the number one overall pick in the draft by the Reds before he went to the Rangers and had that great MVP there. Right. But didn't he always didn't he come into league? Yes, yes, yes. Problems. Yeah, his in fact, his career sort of got derailed. And then he cleaned up, came in, played great. And then I think had a relapse. He didn't fall from grace. He would never had grace. Yeah, I don't I don't think he was. I don't know if he really qualifies Greg and Rochester in addition to masses tears, please. What about Jimmy Craig? So did he do anything off the ice? Or was he just not? Did he just make the pros and not pan out? Well, he got arrested for DUI's. And I think there was even someone who passed away during that. OK, so I'm not familiar with that. Yeah, me neither. I didn't know that story either. Who is this for Freshman? Jim Craig, the goalie for USA 1980. OK, 1980 goalie. Yeah, I don't he never after the gold medal, you know, he never really got traction in the NHL. I don't you remember Atlanta Flames? I remember that I think it was a sports illustrated cover. If I'm not mistaken. Jim Craig, Jim Craig, that that's little Mikey Felger in Milwaukee back in the day before you could just go to Amazon and get it in like 10 minutes. Within a couple of weeks, I had the number 30 team USA Jersey that I wore. I was a little goalie in youth hockey. I had Jim Craig number 30 USA Jersey that I wore for my the next couple of years anyway in that for youth hockey in Milwaukee. It was a good one to get at that time. Story time. I was playing a charity game then, whatever. This was like 10 years ago or so against NHL players. And I made a save on somebody and someone skated by and tap my pads and said, good job there, Felger. And it was Jim Craig. Oh, really? Just about melted. I was almost in tears there in that moment on the ice. I don't know about any of the ice stuff. So but anyway, well, he's now a friend of the show. OK, anyway, how about Jake and Taughton? Yes, Jake. Hey, two more names, you guys, Urban Meyer and Donald Sterling. OK, Donald Sterling. I'd have to say, did he ever have grace in the first place? Exactly right. Forget him. Was he always considered a dope? And who was the first guy? Urban Meyer is a good one. Urban Meyer. Yeah, highly accomplished college coach, right? Yes. I mean, after that whole thing in the bar with the woman and then the failure. So I put him on par with Bill Bellach. Yeah, that's right. He's a built. There's a Bill Bellachek tier of fall from grace. You didn't commit any crime, but you were just kind of exposed personally, professionally. And people look at you differently now. Absolutely. So that's like a tier four kind of thing. Jake and Lemister. Go ahead, Jake. Hi, thanks for taking my call. I actually have two. I thought of another one when I was on hold. The first one was Wander Franco. And the second one was Trevor Bauer. So Bauer. Yeah, he had the abuse thing, right? That he was. Oh, right. That's right. But he was clear of it, wasn't he? Yeah, I think he was. I never really followed up on that at the end. Who was the guy that broke his hand playing with the Millennium Falcon? It's him. It's him. OK. To me, that's the fall from grace. He couldn't make a start in the World Series because he was playing with his Star Wars toy. The Millennium Falcon. Millennium Falcon. That, to me, is first class ass clown. I mean, that guy. Never mind if he did what he was accused of doing, then obviously different tier. Who's the other guy that said? Wander Franco. The prospect for the raise that was like they signed to that massive contract. Do you remember him? Was it a murder charge? No, it was abuse. No, what would you call it, Murray? Pedo. Yeah, I mean, he was having a relationship with a 14-year-old girl. OK. And didn't the girl's mother know it? Something, yeah. But again, was he ever? I don't know if he's a big enough name. Was he ever put on a pedestal? Well, I would say at one time he was the next hot thing in baseball. He was akin to, I don't know, I'd have to think of a prospect in the game. When he first started playing, he was like. Want sodos or something like that? Yeah, something like that. As a rookie. I mean, he was that kind of stud. And they gave him this massive contract. And then he had these eight. And he's just disappeared. He doesn't play for them anymore. We continue with your thoughts on this. The Red Sox, I have a patriot's thought for you, based off of something Bidadd said to me last night on TV, which kind of had me spitting out my coffee. And I wanted to drink it any as Portnoy would say, that's coming off off the top of the hour. Your call is in our long commercial-free segment next. Why can Tony have a definite chemistry? Are they? 100%. Are they? Yes. 100%? Do I stun? Do you consider them the periodic table of sports talk? Put that in your pipe and smoke. Sorry. I don't mean to blow a gas. No, no. Blow it, baby. Blow it. Belger and Max. And it's a pattern you hate to see repeated. Yeah. No, that's what's driving people nuts, too. Well, it's extra innings on the road. Defensive miscues. Strikeouts piling up. If it was something different than what we saw last year, you'd say, OK, it's just a different year. But it's like rinse and repeat. You mentioned a weird play last night. We didn't even catch it. Strike two on the swing and miss on the stone base. Double error, another run scored. And to be honest with you, we're sitting there trying to figure out what we're watching, what's going on right now. We missed the fact that it was strike three. Nobody saw it, by the way. How does Baye own the catch or miss it, though? That part is a little troubling. Or somebody on the bench. Well, I get it. But to be honest with you, they're probably thinking the same thing. What was, what's going on? But if I'm a hitter and I got ball four and the umpire says three, I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. That's four. Wong and Baye weren't stepping off the field. They didn't throw down to third. I think there were two outs. Not that you would throw it around the diamond. But you know what I'm saying. They're just, I'm not going to say anything. So I understand the bad or not saying anything. To me, Maz, the story remains the totality of the Red Sox uniformed personnel. Not one person knew what was going on. And not only that, I don't think they knew until well after the game. Cora was asked about it 20 minutes after the game and still didn't know. So that is the definition of out to lunch underlined in bold. And that to me is the concerning thing. Yeah, big time. Look, I agree with Lou. I also feel like the pitcher and catcher got to be in tune. Oh my god. Like, that one's bad. That's the first place you look on the field. Again, and I would put the manager and the pitching coach right there. The manager is supposed to be dialed in to every pitch. And just quickly, because he said, you know, it's the same problems it was a year ago. Well, that brings you back to the personnel. And not to say I told you so. But when the strikeout thing came up last year, you know, shorten up on the bat, do this, do that. And you can do those things. It got a little bit better. But Trevor's story is going to strike out a lot. You know, Contreras is going to strike out a lot. So it comes back to what you were saying earlier. So how they were built. It's roster construction. You built your lineup with a bunch of guys who strike out. And you instructed them, the young guys, through the system using drive line, launch angle, and put the ball in the air. Bingo. So what do you expect them to do now? Get here and choke up on the bat? They haven't been trained to do that. Right. So you built a team with a bunch of guys who can't make contact. Now they go out and strike out. And what did you expect? We continue with your thoughts on that. And of course, Maz's tears, which always gets an incredible response. And this continues. Falls from Grace. How about Ian in New Hampshire? Ian, who'd we miss? I want to jump into the world of professional wrestling with this one. But what about Chris Benoit? I have no knowledge of this story. Jimmy Stewart, this is obviously your department. This is a wrestler who murdered his family. So yes, that would be a big fall from Grace. He went from winning the world title at a WrestleMania to murdering his family all within the course of a few years. That would be tier one if we were going to add wrestlers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Paul Kogan would be in the conversation as well. So you know who someone said? And not that, you know, well, go ahead. I don't want to minimize what those guys did, especially the first one. But isn't the whole wrestling world set up to fall from you? Heal turns and falls from Grace and all this sort of stuff? Yeah, for the most part. But go ahead. No, the one someone sent me is Vince McMahon. Like, it's so. Oh, good one. Oh, yeah. So I, you know, no, I'm not a I was a wrestling fan when I was a kid, but I know who Vince McMahon is. And I know what is demise. Well, you know, I just don't know these stories. Karen in New Hampshire. Go ahead, Karen. Off air show window. Karen. Providence. Hi. Or Karen and Providence. OK, Karen and Providence. Go ahead. The Celtics coach that they fired that Emy Udoka. Yeah. Tier six. He's just fine. He's now the coach of the. OK, but I mean, I see what she's saying. It took a hit here. He took a little bit of a hit. Yeah, he's landed on his feet fine, but that's kind of on a much bigger scale what we've been talking about. Yeah, yeah, there was a question there for a little while. How soon he would be hired and he was. I mean, so, you know, good for him. Ryan and Shrewsbury, who'd we miss? Hey, guys, I was thinking about Conor McGregor. Conor McGregor, not bad. What happened with McGregor? It's hard to keep all these straight. Abuse, assaults, things of this nature. And he got knocked off his perch, literally. So on the mat, off the mat. Yeah, Conor McGregor a little bit. Not bad. Look at him differently. Steven Fitchburg, yes, Steve? Cary Price. So you really got to know his story. Was that Ken out of wedlock? What was it? Montreal, go tender. I know who that is. But what did he do? I'm not quite sure. OK, well, we got to know. Substance abuse issues more than anything else. It was a range of stuff. So I just don't know. I don't think a big enough name either. And if you're calling him Montreal Sports Radio, maybe. Cary Price, yes. He had some issues. John and Vermont, what'd we miss? Yeah, hey, I got two. First one, Bob Hayes. Why do you see him for the Cowboys back in the 60s? What did he do? He became famous as a sprinter. He was Bill DeWolf's fastest shooter. I know, bullet Bob Hayes. What did he do? Well, eventually, he was Del Mahuddle in the movie North Dallas 40. But he eventually got busted for cocaine trafficking. Oh, big, big whoop. A lot of guys. Well, trafficking. OK, let's see. Yeah, it's a little. Yeah, but. I'm sorry. I missed the trafficking part the first time that he said it. But was he ever Cal Ripken? You know what I mean? Like the guy on the billboard selling milk. How about Tony in Gloucester? Yes, Tony. Yes, I have three names. Jennifer Capriotti, tennis player. Also, Delante West and Chris Herron. OK, was Chris Herron ever on a pedestal? Not really. No. Was Delante West ever on a pedestal? No, definitely not. Capriotti, maybe. Yeah. OK, she was like the golden child of tennis. The kid phenom and like. Rebelled. Turned dark overnight. Yeah, big telling. Didn't she like steel clothing and. I can't remember all the details. She had a drug issue, too. Yes, I think. No, Jennifer Capriotti qualifies. That's a pretty good one. Don and Maine go. Oh, Sean. Oh, Sean. Oh, Sean. Yeah, go. I'm sorry. Oh, yeah. A couple real quick. Danny Almonte and Danny McClain. OK, Danny McClain, you're banned for life. Banned for life. Yep, you're out. One less person from Maine to worry about. Yep. Lifetime ban for Don from Maine. So that the Little Liger was really 16 years old and he never panned out. Is that? No, that doesn't make that. Those are fall from grace. He grew up. Yeah, I was well, no, but like, but he also with any fake as person. Yeah, he was like 19. Yeah, you tell me, you think those kids in the Little Liger World Series are really 13? Any of them? Have you seen some of these guys? They're big as horses. These kids aren't 13. No, I would say the person that fell from grace and that one is the guy who signed them up a little bit. That's the person who fell from grace. So listen, I would tell you we're done, but we're not. We'll take your calls today on this. Tomorrow we've instituted another rule. The Maz's tier suggestions end after day one. We don't spill them. That's right. No Friday suggestions on Maz's tier. So we'll still take your calls on this. I'm not going to ban you. The Don from Maine is out. He's banned for life. You can't call with someone we've discussed. If you didn't hear the original segment or have been listening subsequently, just continue to listen. Don't call in with yours. I think it was actually Sean for me, but I bet you he tries to pass off as Don the next time. The comment line did say Don, so maybe he has some wriggle room there to get past the. Yeah, what if I change my name? The authorities back behind the glass. Greg Baudard with a Patriots plan of attack that I think is just not going to fly. You'll hear it right after Big Jam Murray gets you updated. 90 seconds, no commercials.