Nashville's Morning News with Dan Mandis

Hour 2 of NMN, Artemis II Crew Returns + Shut Up Pope

30 min
Apr 13, 20265 days ago
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Summary

Nashville's Morning News Hour 2 covered Waymo's autonomous vehicle expansion in Nashville with multiple reported incidents of driverless cars getting stuck in traffic, and the successful return of NASA's Artemis II crew from their lunar mission. The hosts also discussed the Pope's recent comments on peace and suffering, contrasting them with specific examples of domestic crime and illegal immigration.

Insights
  • Autonomous vehicle technology struggles with real-world complexity: Waymo's Nashville incidents reveal that mapping infrastructure and regulatory approvals don't account for unpredictable urban environments like pedal taverns, double-decker buses, and one-way streets.
  • High-tech space missions can have surprisingly poor documentation: Despite crystal-clear lunar photography, the ocean recovery footage was degraded due to helicopter digital zoom limitations, raising questions about mission documentation priorities.
  • Religious institutional messaging on geopolitics may lack specificity: The Pope's broad statements about human suffering and peace lack concrete policy positions, making them appear disconnected from specific crises like illegal immigration or state-sponsored violence.
  • Consumer trust in autonomous vehicles remains low: Host and guests expressed strong reluctance to use Waymo despite its official expansion, suggesting public confidence lags behind corporate rollout timelines.
  • Space exploration achievements carry geopolitical significance: The Artemis II mission was framed as a competitive advantage against China in the new space race, indicating how civilian space programs serve national interests.
Trends
Autonomous vehicle real-world deployment challenges exceed simulation testingPublic skepticism of autonomous ride-hailing despite corporate expansion announcementsSpace exploration framed as geopolitical competition rather than international cooperationInconsistent media coverage quality between space and terrestrial operationsReligious institutions addressing political/security policy from moral authority positionsIllegal immigration linked to domestic crime as primary policy concern for conservative mediaAstronaut mental health and family impact becoming part of mission narrativeDigital zoom limitations in live broadcast documentation of high-stakes eventsWaymo expansion into secondary markets (Nashville) following major urban launchesToilet/sanitation issues in space missions becoming public discussion points
Companies
Waymo
Autonomous ride-hailing service expanded to Nashville; reported four incidents where driverless vehicles got stuck in...
Alphabet
Parent company of Waymo; experienced 4% stock surge following official Nashville expansion announcement.
Google
Parent company of Waymo; owns the autonomous vehicle division that expanded to Nashville.
NASA
Conducted Artemis II lunar mission; crew successfully returned to Earth after nearly 10-day mission reaching 252,756 ...
CNBC
News outlet that characterized Waymo's Nashville expansion as 'a meaningful operational milestone' requiring regulato...
People
Dan Mandis
Primary host of Nashville's Morning News Hour 2; led discussion on Waymo incidents and Artemis II mission.
Joan
Co-host providing commentary on Waymo safety concerns and Artemis II coverage quality issues.
Sam
Staff member contributing to discussion and fact-checking details about Artemis II reentry speed.
General Richard Newton
Scheduled guest for 7 a.m. segment to provide military and geopolitical perspective on Iran blockade.
Congressman Andy Ogles
Scheduled in-studio guest at 7:35 a.m. on Nashville's Morning News.
Reed Weissman
Artemis II crew member; provided post-mission commentary about the emotional impact of returning from 200,000+ miles ...
Victor Glover
Artemis II crew member; expressed gratitude and difficulty processing the mission experience during post-landing pres...
Christina Koch
Artemis II crew member; emphasized teamwork and described Earth as a crew during post-mission commentary.
Jeremy Hansen
Artemis II crew member from Canada; expressed gratitude in French during post-mission press conference.
Pope Francis
Discussed in 60 Minutes segment regarding commentary on war, peace, and suffering; criticized for lack of specificity...
Paula Pan
Sponsor segment spokesperson discussing savings yields and inflation impacts.
Quotes
"Safety is our top priority at Waymo, both for the people who choose to ride with us and with whom we share the streets. We take reports like this seriously and are committed to improving road safety through our ongoing learnings and experiences."
Waymo RepresentativeMid-segment
"The earth was that big out the window and we were doing Mach 39 and here we are back at Ellington at home. No one knows what the families went through, man."
Reed Weissman, AstronautPost-mission press conference
"Planet Earth, you are a crew."
Christina Koch, AstronautPost-mission press conference
"I would ask the pope, what is the better way? Peace through strength saves lives."
Dan MandisPope discussion segment
"How do you have, if you are like all the way up on the moon, like not on the moon, but outside of the moon, like above the moon, moon adjacent... the pictures like right there in the middle of the ocean were terrible?"
JoanArtemis II coverage discussion
Full Transcript
6 0 6 on Super Talk 99 7 WTN. Good morning to your friends and the clock is ticking or kicking towards a 9 o'clock this morning when our blockade of Iran's blockade is going to happen on the Strait of Hormuz. We did a deep dive on that earlier in the program in the 5 o'clock hour. We will continue to revisit that topic. This is a very big deal for a lot of different reasons, including how it will impact China. We're going to talk about that straight ahead here on Super Talk 997. General Richard Newton will be joining us after the news at 7 o'clock. A great military perspective and really geopolitical perspective as well from General Richard Newton. That is coming up at 7. Congressman Andy Ogles will be joining us in studio at 7 35 on Nashville's Morning News. Joan, I heard you talk about the Waymo car. There's three, right? I think there were four instances. There were four instances. Now, just of people that don't know, a Waymo is basically a driverless Uber or a driverless taxi, right? So autonomous. There's nobody behind the wheel. There's nobody behind the wheel, right? So it's autonomous. So here's what's really awkward for Waymo is that they just expanded big time. So they had, it was, I think, just last week, they expanded Nashville, their biggest, their biggest latest expansion, so big that Alphabet or Google, you know, who owns Waymo had a 4% stock surge after they had their official expansion here in Music City. Now, remember Waymo, they've been launched as this autonomous ride hailing service. In other words, I guess driverless. Now, right now they operate in San Francisco, LA, Phoenix and Austin and now Nashville. CNBC puts it this way. Waymo's expansion into Nashville is a meaningful operational milestone. Now, the fact that they make this out to be such a big deal makes what happens so awkward. Each new city requires regulatory approvals, mapping infrastructure, fleet deployment and local partnerships. So a successful launch validates both the technology stack and the operational playbook Waymo has refined over the years of commercial service. Okay, so they officially launch here in Nashville and by the way, they've been operating in Nashville apparently for a while. But now you say four different issues, four different issues have been reported so far where these driverless cars actually got stuck and stopped traffic. Now, one incident was reported back on April 9th at 130 in the 100 block of Demunbury and Street. A Waymo representative says after we contacted them, they reviewed that footage from inside the driverless car. They say that vehicle got stuck or stopped after trying to navigate around a pedal tavern. Now, thankfully, Joan, we don't have a lot of pedal taverns in Nashville. So I'm sure this won't happen again. Oh my goodness. When you when you look at like the mapping infrastructure, the regulatory approvals and all of that. How do they not know how to navigate around a pedal tavern? So, you know, as you know, we talked about it off the air. I was in Nashville over the weekend. You know, there on Saturday, what where it was like absolute chaos. There were so many people out there. But we're not just talking about pedal taverns. There's all the people who drive sort of the rickshaw kind of things where, you know, they've got one or two seats on the back or, you know, and then there's, of course, you got the scooters running around and the golf carts, golf carts, you've got people on rented bicycles. I mean, there's so many vehicles out there that can confuse these autonomous vehicles. Yeah. And when that incident happened that you're talking about with the pedal tavern, it turned the report that I had said that it turned away from the pedal tavern to avoid it. But then further down in the line of traffic was a big bus. So like a double decker bus, right? And that further confused it. So it wasn't really sure where it was supposed to go. So it just stopped and that stopped the clip. I saw there was one trying to go down a one way street. The wrong way. Yeah, it turned into a one way street and it couldn't go. And then it blocked traffic that was trying to exit that road. And people don't know, right? But people are like honking at the thing. Yeah. Like it's going to do anything. So I mean, this is going to be pretty bad. Car turned wide and then stopped almost appearing to be facing oncoming traffic. The rep said the Waymo then sensed a large bus further down the road, adding to the confusion. The Waymo car was stopped for several minutes. People honking their horns before it then continued on. There were no passengers inside that car. You know, the great thing is, Joan, we don't have to make a lot of right turns in Nashville. Because they're all left left hand turns because of all the Democrats. Yeah, totally kidding. Whatever. Anyway, so I guess there was a third and you're saying now a fourth incident regarding these Waymo vehicles. You know, my question is, would you actually, I would not want to get into a Waymo vehicle. Would you, Joan? I would not to save my soul get into a Waymo vehicle. And Sam says no as well. Well, only if they're going to have an issue if I put my concealed carry weapon in the seat with me in case I need to end the vehicle's movement. What do you do? Shoot the steering wheel? Basically. I mean, they have cameras that'll watch you. So I was watching a clip of a girl trying to slide around in the back seat unseat belted and a Waymo guy hopped on and goes, ma'am, I need you to put your seatbelt on for me, please. Oh, wow. Okay. Wow. By the way, Waymo representatives and Fox 17, a statement, you're ready. Safety is our top priority at Waymo, both for the people who choose to ride with us and with whom we share the streets. We take reports like this seriously and are committed to improving road safety through our ongoing learnings and experiences. So yeah, I, you could not get me to get into a Waymo to save my life. You know, you're lucky that it just stops. But what happens if the thing gets confused and starts, you know, banging into other vehicles or just starts going really fast down a road? What if somebody hacks it? Iranians are threatening us. North Korea. I don't think North Korea is hacking much of anything. They get, no, they got a very significant hacking program. Well, but as far as getting all the way over here to Nash, I don't think, I don't think they care about our Waymo vehicles, but anyway, but you know, it's amazing. And I hate to sound like an old guy, but, you know, Waymo apparently can't navigate around pedal taverns or navigate right turns, but we can go back to the moon. Splashdown confirmed at 7 0 7 p.m. Central time, 5 0 7 p.m. Pacific time. Yep. From the pages of Jules Verne to a modern day mission to the moon, a new chapter of the exploration of our celestial neighbor is complete. Integrity's astronauts back on earth. You watch that on Friday night. So I've got to go to traffic. But Joan, I'm going to throw the conspiracy theorists a nod here because I noticed something that I'm wondering if other people noticed as well about the coverage on Friday night where Artemis landed in the Pacific Ocean. And I noticed this and I thought, you know, maybe the conspiracy theorists who are saying that, you know, this flight beyond the moon to the dark side of the moon actually did not happen. Splashdown confirmed at 7 0 7 p.m. Central time, 5 0 7 p.m. Pacific time. From the pages of Jules Verne to a modern day mission to the moon, a new chapter of the exploration of our celestial neighbor is complete. Integrity's astronauts back on earth. All right. So Joan, did you and Sam, did either of you watch the long arduous process of the splashdown of Artemis and then getting them from the capsule onto the little raft thing and then up the helicopter, then over to the ship? No. Yeah, it took forever. Such a long time. And I remember taking long in the past, but this was like way too long. So one thing I noticed is that it took a long time to get them from the space capsule again, loaded onto that helicopter back over to the ship, which I'm sure was a lot of fun considering like the toilet issues. Like you can imagine they've been like holding it for all this time and man, just get me to the dark ship. Did a couple of them jump in the water? What? Well, Fox just replayed the clip of the both pulling up to the capsule. Looks like people were swimming. Yeah, they had. So they had probably, I don't know why they were swimming in the ocean. Yeah, they had people on the raft, they had people inside the capsule, they had people swimming about and they had helicopters above. But here's what I don't get. The pictures and the videos of the moon were incredibly clear. But you know, the pictures like right there in the middle of the ocean were terrible. Like, how does that happen? How do you have, if you are like all the way up on the moon, or like not on the moon, but outside of the moon, like above the moon, whatever it is, moon adjacent. I got some video here, Sam. And the images, Joan, are absolutely crystal clear. But the ocean shots of them exiting the capsule, they're terrible. Yeah. And so, and I'm showing it on Super Talk TV right now. It just, they look terrible. They're not clear. And so, you know, for those people that are like, ah, it never happened. It was a sound stage. One guy said to me on social media, madness are so gullible. Don't you know it never really happened? And I'm looking at this, this video. And I'm thinking, why is that video from like right here on Earth look so crappy when all of that video from way up in space near the moon is crystal clear? I have an answer. Well, I know, I know what the answer is, but go ahead. Well, they're using a zoom on a digital zoom on a camera from a helicopter. That's exactly right. They didn't want to use, so it was far away. So they had, I guess, a couple of different camera shots. They had one on a helicopter. And I guess one on the ship. They didn't want to use a drone because the drone might interfere with all of the, they said a couple of things. Radio signals. Also, they had, you know, helicopters flying. But see, the helicopters are up. The drones would be down underneath the helicopter, but above the water. But I mean, they didn't want to do it, whatever. Okay. I just, and NASA came out and they said, well, you know, safety first, I understand that. But you're talking about something that is incredibly historic. And you couldn't get better shots than this. It was terrible. Well, to be fair, in space, they had a Nikon D5, DSLR, and a Nikon Z9 mirrorless. Those are two very high end cameras. And they couldn't get it. They couldn't use, they already had them. Just use them for the, on the ship or on the, on the helicopter. You know, I gotta get off and whatever. They're jumping in the ocean swimming. As we had mentioned with the potential plumbing problems, they might have had other priorities. No, they just, you know, they should have had better cameras so that people could, you know, really become engaged in getting them off of the, because I mean, that's, that's why I kept obsessing over. It's like, I wish they had better cameras. I wish they had better cameras. I wish it was, it was, it was clear, but whatever, you know, it is what it is. That's our taxpayer dollars. Apparently hard to work. You know, the important stuff worked, except for the toilet. Other than that, everything worked. And it was a great mission. Did you hear any of the, the commentary of the astronauts during this press conference that they had? I think it was on Saturday or Sunday. But really, really cool things that they said. This is Reed Weissman. I have absolutely no idea what to say. This is 24 hours ago. The earth was that big out the window and we were doing Mach 39 and here we are back at Ellington at home. No one knows what the families went through, man. This was not easy. Being 200,000 plus miles away from home, like before you launch, it feels like it's the greatest dream on earth. And when you're out there, you just want to get back to your families and your friends. It's a special thing to be a human and it's a special thing to be on planet earth. Thank you. Yeah, I, he's right about the families and what the families went through. I cannot imagine, but you know what? If you're the husband or the wife of one of these astronauts, you know that this is what they have been, they've been fighting for and training for their entire careers. This is Victor Glover. I'm afraid to start talking. I have not processed what we just did and I'm afraid to start even trying. When this started on April 3rd, I wanted to thank God in public and I want to thank God again because even bigger than my challenge, trying to describe what we went through, the gratitude of seeing what we saw, doing what we did and being with who I was with, it's too big to just be in one body. And I wanted to thank our families for everything that he just said. So great words, great words, great words. And yeah, you know what? I love and I've talked about this since this whole thing began, but this this was a big middle finger to China because we are beating China in the new space race. That's huge. Christina Koch talked about the value of being part of a crew, the value of teamwork, of having each other's back and Christina Koch made a bigger point about seeing tiny earth from far away. I may have not learned, I know I haven't learned everything that this journey has yet to teach me, but there's one new thing I know and that is Planet Earth, you are a crew. Thank you. Except for Iran. Iran, if we, Joan, if we were a crew, I would want Iran to walk the plank. I'm all for that. And China. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Russia. And Eric Swalwell, sorry. And Eric Swalwell. And you know what? It'll be Swalwell's wife that has the sword that is forcing him to walk the plank. Yeah. I get what Christina Koch was trying to do. Like they were trying to make this into more of a, hey, isn't the world a wonderful, a big kumbaya all thing? And I get it. I totally appreciate what they're trying to do. But there was part of me that was, all right, let's not get carried away. Am I wrong? Am I bad for, I mean, the world is like, we're not a big kumbaya moment right now. I mean, how many nations chant death to America on a regular basis? That's exactly right. The Canadian, Jeremy Hansen, actually broke out in some French. Listen to this. So I think I'll start with gratitude. Gratitude from a family. Gratitude for NASA, for its leadership. Gratitude for Canadian Space Agency. Gratitude for the Canadian, a J-Alt, the Pouvoir Revenue, Vec Read, Christina Victor, O Canada. Gratitude for the bravery and the courage for the teams to be no go when we were no go and go when we were go. That took a lot. And I don't think people will really ever fully comprehend how well supported and trained we were. It is almost unbelievable. During Artemis' nearly 10-day mission, Artemis II, their nearly 10-day vision mission, the astronauts voyage deeper into space than the moon explorers of decades past and captured views of the lunar far side never witnessed before by human eyes. A total solar eclipse added to the cosmic wonder on their record breaking flyby, the astronauts reached a maximum of 252,756 miles from Earth before hanging that U-turn behind the moon, eclipsing Apollo 13's distance record. And so now all eyes, of course, on the next mission. And then hopefully after that, we land back on the moon. So I thought, again, it was very cool. I personally would pay a nickel more in taxes to get a better camera. Joan, you in with me? A nickel for better cameras so that we could actually see the rescue at sea? But it wasn't just that. When the capsule was coming down from the sky, they couldn't even keep the camera on it. It was shaking so much and I get it. I mean, it must be a difficult shot. But I think they had a better shot of it coming down through the atmosphere like 100 years ago. It was really pretty bad. Yeah, I think it was going like, was it? Sam fact check me on this. It's like 5,000 mile per hour or something like that. I can't remember how it was going really fast. But you're right. And one of the things I was like, I'm looking at this, them trying to keep the ship in the shot. And I'm like, just zoom out a little bit, you know what I mean? So that we can actually finally see it. But anyway, the mission was perfect from launch to landing with the exception again of the toilet. Now they're going to try to figure out how to, you know, fix the toilet and hopefully get better camera shots when they are down in the ocean for the splash landing. All right. So on the reentry, when it hit the atmosphere, it was doing about 25,000 miles per hour. 25,000. That's what I said. 25,000. It's kind of hard to keep in frame, especially if you're on a helicopter on a digital zoom. Yeah, Joan. Yeah. Cut him some slack. Sorry. It is 626. So Joan's got the news coming up at 630. Joan. Yeah, coming up here, what happened to a Robertson County man's herd of goats? It's just pretty sad. And also, there was a marathon over the weekend that somebody made a big mistake over and we'll tell you why the organizers are now apologizing. Those stories coming up at 630 on Super Talk 99, 7, WTN. Heard of goats? I heard of goats. So what happened? I know you're going to do the actual story. Well, a bunch of them were, more than a dozen of these goats were killed over the weekend. And who owned these goats? A man named Billy. I'm not kidding. Are you kidding me? Billy's goats. So Billy's goats were killed in some horrifying way of which we'll find out at 630. That's correct. Okay. Yeah. Thank you, Joan. Uh-huh. All right, real quick. So Joan, the pope is out there. Yeah. Doing what the pope does. Yep. And I've got some audio from 60 Minutes. Apparently, there were some priests being interviewed as well. I want to review real quick, Joan, as soon as I play this piece of audio, what exactly it is that the pope has a problem with this time regarding Donald Trump. So we're going to do that in a minute. I do want to play this piece of audio, though. This is on 60 Minutes, and they're talking about preachers and pastors and so forth that are talking about politics from the pulpit. What do you say to people in the pews who say, I don't want to hear politics from my priest? I say, fine. I want to preach the gospel. God wants us to remote peace in the world because his desire is that we be one human family. What we're seeing as pastors is an enormous, profound level of human suffering, and that's what motivates us. So I'm just, you know, I listen to that. And again, I don't want to, you know, start bashing, you know, people's Catholicism or, you know, people's religion. But, you know, one of the things when you hear things like that is it just feels so out of context, right? So when we talk about human suffering, can we talk about the suffering that has happened here in America with illegal immigration? I mean, we have spoken ad nauseum about the number of Americans that have been killed by people that are here illegally, by people that have come into our country illegally, and they either refuse to leave, we deport them, and they come back and so forth. And then we see, like the president, our president, Trump, last week, he posted that video of that poor woman getting hammered to death by an illegal alien outside of that liquor store. And so, yeah, I would agree with the priest on this matter that, yeah, there's a lot of human suffering. You know, who's suffering? Americans, who we're watching our fellow Americans getting killed by illegal aliens. We are watching, of course, the huge amount of fraud that is happening at places like Minnesota and places like, if I remember right, wasn't it Vermont or Maine? You, of course, have all of that fraud that is going on in California as well. And a lot of the people that are ripping off American taxpayers causing suffering, they're illegal aliens. And so I get the spirit with which the priests are talking about. But here's the deal, is just rampant, unfettered illegal immigration is bad for any society. It is. They found that out in Europe, most certainly. And so, let's review real quickly if we can, Joe. What exactly was it that the pope was complaining about with our policies? All right, so here's what he had to say, at least at one point. Too many people are suffering in the world today. Too many innocent people are being killed. And I think someone has to stand up and say, there's a better way to do this. So I would ask the pope, what is the better way? Yeah. What's the better way? Because it seems to me, like, I'm getting all mad at the pope, but it does seem like to me, peace through strength, is going to save a lot of lives. Peace through strength saves lives. And so, the pope, I don't know what we're going to say, Joan, the pope is just driving me nuts. All right, go ahead. So, okay, here we go. I will continue to speak out loud against war, looking to promote peace, promoting dialogue and multilateral relationships among the states to look for just solutions to problems. He also thinks that even though he's speaking out, it's not about politics. I do not look at my roles being political politician. I don't want to get into it to make with him. I don't think that the message of the gospel is meant to be abused in the way that some people are doing. He must have been overseas for a long time because he's from Chicago, but he sounds like he's Italian. Sorry. Well, here's the thing is, I think that when you see things like this where the pope is talking about how there's people that are suffering, I mean, nobody, I would say this feels little like platitudes. You know what I mean? Yeah, people are suffering and we want that to stop. But when you have, for example, when you have what happened where Hamas went into Israel and killed 1200 Israelis, yeah, there was a lot of suffering. And so when they come out, when some of these folks come out and they say, oh, you know, we need peace in the world. Well, okay, but you can't have peace in the world if you allow the evildoers to run rampant. You're going to have a lot more death if you don't put the evildoers in their place. And so it just feels like, oh, and the suffering, I agree. But the only way to end the suffering is to kill the ones that are causing the suffering. So the Bible also talks a lot about how things like this, this is not a physical war. This is a spiritual battle, clearly a spiritual battle. And so the Bible has all kinds of references about how we need to step up and fight in the name of the righteous against the evil spirit. And so what we're doing is not just, you know, a physical, we're going to go out there and do battle against so and so, but we need to stand firm, you know, put on the full armor of God thing and get out there and do it. And not doing it is what makes us evil. If we turn a blind eye, whistle past the graveyard, as people like to say, if we're doing that, we're helping the evil to win. Well, and the thing is, you'll notice that, and people have been posting about this online, where the Pope doesn't necessarily say these things if it's, you know, like, for example, a Joe Biden, and I'm using the Pope as a generic, because we've had a lot of popes. But where popes don't necessarily say this when Democrats are in office, well, in fairness to various popes, it's not like Democrats exhibit peace through strength. What the Democrats do is they just allow the chaos to run rampant. And that's how we ended up with all of these illegal aliens in our country to begin with. And that brings us full circle to the death and destruction that we've seen in our country because of the 15 to 20 million illegal aliens that have come into our country. And I mean, I don't mean to, you know, harp on the same thing, but, you know, a Pope, look what happened in your city of Chicago, where you had, I think, not one, but two innocent people that, to use their phrase, they had to suffer a lot when they were killed by those illegal aliens. There was one in Chicago, there's one in New York, actually. And you know what, there's a lot of suffering going on in Chicago because of the issues regarding illegal immigration, and guys that are coming into our country and doing horrible things. And so the, you know, the Pope, I'm assuming he didn't say anything about that. It's all just about these platitudes of, oh, we need to stop the suffering. Well, let's get into specifics, Pope. What would you do about the guy that walked up to that, what, 18, 19-year-old girl and shot her dead, just walking out and looking at the stars? Let's get into some specifics, Pope, and people who have a problem with, you know, with what the President is trying to do, to curtail crime and illegal immigration in this country. Because it's when you get away from the platitudes about, and I'm going to air quote this, the suffering, it's when you get away from the platitudes about, oh, we need to end the suffering, and let's get, let's drill right down into the suffering that's happening in this country. Let's drill right down into the suffering that's happening across the world. Are they talking about Iran? Is that what they're talking about? Where they throw gay people off of buildings? Is that the suffering they're talking about? No, they're talking about Donald Trump, and what he is trying to do to save the lives of all of those Iranian people, let's not forget the 45,000 that were killed, courtesy of the Iranian government, because they were out there protesting. So I would like to ask the Pope to get into some specifics, please. What are we talking about here? And I'm not bashing Catholicism, I'm not bashing any of that. I'm just, I'm asking a question where let's start drilling into some details as to what exactly is it that the Pope is talking about. Sam, your mic is on. What do you want to say? Nailed it. Oh, all right. All right. It is, I mean, I, I, I shutter to think with the super text line. I just, I get, I get frustrated when I hear platitudes like this and the, the insinuation is that, you know, the president, the Republicans, you know, we're doing all of these horrible things all across the world when ultimately what we're trying to do is save lives. Hey there, I'm Paula Pan. 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