Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

Gotta Love A Dad Bod (Southern Charm Recap)

38 min
Feb 12, 20264 months ago
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Summary

Teddi Mellencamp discusses her trip to Washington DC to see Buddhist monks who walked 2,300 miles from Texas, while Tamra Judge recaps Southern Charm season 11 episode 11, covering relationship drama, family dynamics, and a pet funeral.

Insights
  • Reality TV casting and network decisions are heavily influenced by social media backlash and brand reputation management, as evidenced by Jill Zarin's removal from The Golden Life
  • Transparency and honesty in relationships is valued more than the relationship status itself; withholding intentions causes more damage than admitting non-commitment
  • Parental upbringing and family stability are significant attractors in relationship dynamics, with hosts noting that good parenting creates more desirable partners
  • Reality TV editing and selective footage can distort narratives; viewers only see what producers choose to air, affecting perception of cast member behavior
  • Loyalty and discretion among friend groups is inconsistently applied across different social circles, with gender-based differences in how secrets are kept
Trends
Reality TV networks using rapid cast removals as reputation management following social media controversiesIncreased focus on cast member family backgrounds and upbringing as indicators of relationship compatibility on reality showsPet memorialization and pet-centric content becoming mainstream entertainment on luxury lifestyle showsCross-franchise casting and cameo appearances becoming standard practice for reality TV universe expansionAudience engagement through Reddit AMAs and fan theories influencing narrative discussions around reality TV showsEmotional labor and vulnerability becoming expected content from male reality TV cast membersCannabis industry legitimization and normalization within luxury lifestyle circles and social networks
Topics
Reality TV Cast Removal and Network AccountabilityRelationship Transparency and Intention-SettingParental Influence on Adult Relationship PatternsReality TV Editing and Narrative ConstructionFriend Group Loyalty and Information DiscretionCross-Franchise Reality TV Casting StrategyPet Memorialization in Luxury Lifestyle ContentCannabis Industry Normalization in High-Net-Worth CirclesMale Vulnerability and Emotional Expression on Reality TVSocial Media Backlash and Corporate ResponseBreakout Star Prediction and Cast ChemistryGeographic and Cultural Differences in Reality TV FranchisesSpiritual Tourism and Influencer Activism
Companies
Bravo
Network that produces Real Housewives franchises and Southern Charm; made decision to remove Jill Zarin from The Gold...
E! Entertainment
Network producing The Golden Life reality series; removed Jill Zarin from cast following racist comments controversy
Variety
Media outlet that reported on Jill Zarin's removal from The Golden Life due to controversial social media comments
In Touch Weekly
Celebrity news outlet where Jill Zarin spoke about her removal from The Golden Life and lack of explanation
People
Jill Zarin
Former Real Housewives cast member removed from E!'s The Golden Life after making racially insensitive comments about...
Teddi Mellencamp
Co-host of Two Ts In A Pod; traveled to Washington DC to cover Buddhist monks' 2,300-mile walk from Texas
Tamra Judge
Co-host of Two Ts In A Pod; recapped Southern Charm season 11 and discussed reality TV dynamics
Dolores Catania
Real Housewives of New Jersey cast member making cameo appearances on Real Housewives of Rhode Island
Liz McGraw
Cannabis industry pioneer and Real Housewives of Rhode Island cast member; friend of Dolores Catania
Whitney
Southern Charm cast member who hosted dinner party at ranch; has supportive parents featured on show
Austin
Southern Charm cast member navigating relationship vulnerability and dating after breakup
Madison
Southern Charm cast member in labor during episode; married with stable family life
Craig
Southern Charm cast member accused of gaslighting and misrepresenting conversations with other cast members
Sally
Southern Charm cast member with romantic history involving multiple male cast members; known for explicit commentary
Shep
Southern Charm cast member who gave relationship advice despite past dating failures; gave shark tooth necklace gift
Patricia
Southern Charm cast member who held funeral for deceased dog Chancé with bagpipes and pet cemetery
Vanita
Southern Charm cast member who became emotional over friendship dynamics and perceived betrayal by Sally
Bad Bunny
Musician whose Super Bowl halftime performance was criticized by Jill Zarin in now-deleted Instagram video
Lady Gaga
Performer whose parents were criticized by Jill Zarin in deleted social media content
Quotes
"I could not let anybody ruin my peace. When you do something like this, you want whoever you're with to really be into it."
Teddi MellencampEarly in episode
"You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube."
Tamra JudgeDiscussing Jill Zarin situation
"If I was the girl in the group, guys, I'd be going after Wittner. This guy was raised normal. He was raised with love. He's got good parents."
Dolores CataniaSouthern Charm discussion
"Just be honest. And I could never get mad if somebody didn't like me as much as I like them. That's not their fault either."
Tamra JudgeRelationship advice segment
"I'm fishing in the same little pond. If you're going to go, go for the big fish."
Teddi MellencampDiscussing Sally's dating pattern
Full Transcript
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I'm not home. I am in Washington DC. Oh, I mean, all I see is white and blurry. It's really hard. I didn't realize. Yeah. That's all I see. I only blur the background because I hope that it could blur the lines on my face. However, it doesn't blur the background. So I, you know, I like to try. Yeah. So 5.30 this morning, I woke up, got in my car and went to the airport and I landed in Washington DC and I am in pursuit of the monks today. I know we talked about that in San Francisco. So is there like an app where you can follow the monks like where they're going to be at a certain time? Well, there's like a little map that I can't read. I'm totally winging it. As soon as we hang up, they, the memorial, the Lincoln Memorial, they will be having a walk from there to, I don't know where else, but yeah, that's, that's what I'm doing. So are you there by yourself? Yeah. Really? You know what, Tamara? I could not let anybody ruin my peace. Not, you know, when you do something like this, you want whoever you're with to really be into it. Yeah. And I kind of just want it from myself. Yeah. This has always been kind of your thing. Like you've been talking about this. I would love to have gone. Are you going to film any of it? I will. I will. I will. I will. I will see this. I can hear them speak and how amazing. What a good heart, big heart you have that you go there and you don't even really know that you're going to be able to see them. You're just hoping you are and you're planning on it and spend the money. Like that's, that is just amazing. This is, you know, it's something that tells to me with everything going on in the world today. Like if I can just, you know, show up for them number one, they've walked 2300 miles from Texas to Washington DC. Their bodies are beat to shit. They are sick. They've lost too long the way. One lost his leg. The other one was, you know, not well in it. Yeah. They're both tootsies too. I couldn't imagine. Oh my God. You should see pictures of their feet. Most of their walk was barefoot. I saw some of those barefoot. Some had like, like almost like socks on other people had shoes on shoes. Stit it looked like that. Stit it. Anyway, how's the dog doing? The dog's doing well. The dog had surgery and had, I think the dog had with what rugby had. Oh, rugby goes up late. I was in the sun for that surgery. Yeah. So the dog's back around. I don't know that he's walking with them, but hey, listen, I hope I could report back that it was an amazing experience. And I even, I'm happy I'm having low expectations just to be able to be in the vicinity of where they are. And that's how. So it's not like you have any in or like a PR person's like, I'm going to get you to them. Like you're just doing this all on your own. I wrote to them. I said, you know, I'm an influencer. I'd like to cover it. I tried to get a press pass. And nobody was having it. They said that they are full. So this is where we're at and stay tuned. Yeah. Well, I can't wait. So today's the day. Or today's the day. How far? How far was your day? How far was your flight? It's close. I don't know. OK, not bad. Well, I can't wait to hear. Is it snowing there? Is it cold? Today's a beautiful day for them. It's like 40 degrees. That's beautiful here. It's been like 12 degrees. It's cold. Sorry, but that's cold for you. Yeah. For me, I took too heavy of a jacket. So we'll see. Well, I can't wait. I honestly can't wait. So let's, we have a couple headlines. I badly do. Yeah. I mean, Jill Zaren fired for me. So Jill Zaren, as everybody knows, was she spearheaded this program and got it to E. And it's been her goal for the past decade or two since she's been off TV to get on TV. And she picked it up in one week. So the golden life, she will no longer be on it after her racist, bad, bunny comments according to variety. Jill Zaren was removed from E's upcoming Real House of the New York Reunion style series, The Golden Life, before filming even began. The decision followed backlash over a now deleted Instagram video criticizing bad, bunny, super bowl half-time performance. Her comments were widely labeled racially insensitive, prompting the network producers to cut ties citing company values. So bye, bye, Jill. That's, that's heavy stuff. What do you think she's thinking right now? Well, she finally spoke on it and she said that she's like, I'm only human. I don't know if she spoke to an outlet if she just put this on her Instagram, but it was something along the lines of, I was never given a chance to explain myself or something. Okay, so she spoke to in touch. Like, okay. Why do you need to go to the press? Why don't you, you have no problem, pulling up your camera and ripping on bad bunny. She also ripped on Lady Gaga's, The Parents. There was somebody else I think she ripped on their appearance. And I'm like, so you can't pick up your phone and do the same thing and say, I sincerely apologize. I don't know what I was thinking, but she definitely said they didn't even give me a chance. Well, and then she also said, I took it down right away and I don't know that that's true. I think it was up there for an hour or so. I'm only human. Well, how you asked the question to me, how do I think she feels right now? She feels like she wants to rip her hair out because it was such a dumb thing to do. I just don't understand why she felt the need to do that. And yeah, so, but guess what? You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. Right. So after what her in touch article, and I don't know that there was an apology, I didn't see one. I think that she's probably kind of fighting for her job in her placement back on E and threatening and you're not finished with me. I'll be back. I just feel like that's the type of woman she is. She's like tone deaf. So Zaryn, Zaryn Fabrics is when Bobby passed away, Jill had no stake in it or she was bought out or whatever the situation was. So the family still owns it, but Jill has not been involved in it. Not only has she not been involved in it, they don't want to be around her, they don't like her. So Jill's Zaryn's alleged step-grandson did a Reddit ask me anything and confirmed that Jill allegedly did in fact invite the Bravo cameras to film Bobby's funeral. And they did not like that. Oh wow, okay. So there's bad blood, there's definitely bad blood within the family, they put a statement out with a big red X through her face. Well Jill said she denied that she invited him. We all know. It doesn't work like that. If I have a funeral for a family member, it's not up to somebody in my cast to invite them. No. It's not how it works. I'm sorry, there is permits to be had and all this stuff, it doesn't work like that. So the family member that posted asked me anything on Reddit, you can go read the comments on Gibson John's post, he has the Reddit, the breakdown of what was asked and answered. Oh, okay. So I'm gonna brush up on this tonight. So I have not, have you seen it yet? No, I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I was out filming last night and then I got home late and got up early so I haven't had a chance. On a light unknown. I went to the play Juliet, Candy Burris is in it and it was amazing. It's a life after all. On Broadway? It's on Broadway, it's called Juliet and it's life after Romeo and Andy was there, Margaret was there. It was opening night. I don't know if it was the opening night but it was definitely Bravo night. They had a pink carpet. It was such a cute play. I suggest everyone go to it, her beautiful daughter. Riley was there. We had such a good time and she's so talented. She's so talented. It was great. It was really a nice time. Me and Paul went together and he even had a good time. The talent in the play, everybody was just wonderful. We all had such a great time. Andy, John Hill, I went with Paul, Margaret, Stacy Roush. It was just such a... That was Stacy. Stacy is a doll. She waited for me to get off the carpet and stopped taking pictures to give me a big sincere hug and say she enjoys listening to the pod. Oh, okay. She's like, I just have fun with it and I'm like, thank you for that. I go, you know what, Stacy? You got a long life in this business because you really... Oh, honey. ...to just have fun with it. I would like to study her. She is just a freaking amazing. She's like, Dolores, it's all good. It's all good. I enjoy listening and we've said great amazing things. I mean, for the most part, we've been more on her side than not. Yeah. But we definitely have things said. Have said things that maybe she might be like, her, but you know, like we always say... She takes it and stride. 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And like I said, you would see a lot of me. Yeah. I make some cameos. Yeah, thanks. But I enjoyed it immensely. I enjoyed being a part of it. So, it's safe to say. It's very different than filming New Jersey because you were way more involved and you have deeper relationships with Jersey compared to the girls in Rhode Island. Like, you might be close to some of them, but it doesn't even compare. Like, no, it doesn't. And there's history here. There's bad blood over the years. This is a new starting fresh franchise. We haven't seen one in quite some time. The trailer looks good. I've known Liz, I don't know, for a few years now. I don't know exactly what how long it's been, but it's been a couple of years. We know each other through the cannabis business. So, she's the queen of cannabis. She was the pioneer of it all. And, you know, as you know, Tamara Frank has started to get, he was getting licenses for several years now. You don't just sign people, they just sign up. So, New Frank's been working on it for a long time. So, I met her through that world, not through this world. Yeah. Would you ever buy a house in Rhode Island? 100% if Paul wants to buy me something like a wedding gift, I'd love a house there. I know you're there. We fell in love all over again there. Our son, my son were there, even though I was filming, like I said, hair in there. But the house I rented was so beautiful, I had a yard with sailboats and hydrangeas everywhere in birds. And it was just beautiful. Sounds beautiful. The beaches are beautiful. The people are, you know, they go from old money, wait, they go from old money to like, people like I went to high school with. Okay. So, who's gonna be the breakout star? You know, I've been asked that. And that's not for me to say, because I don't, how do we know how, when it's edited, who's the breakout star? Right. Is there somebody that has like a bigger personality on the show, like a big personality? Well, you're gonna like like, because she's my friend, of course, I'm gonna say Liz, right? So everyone has big personality. Listen, everybody's got big personalities there. So I think everyone's gonna pick their own breakout star. Are you good with everybody on the cast? Like, there's nobody you're in bad terms with? No, I'm good with everybody for now. Who else in New Jersey do you think would fit in with Rhode Island ladies? Every person in New Jersey would fit in Rhode Island. Is it very, is it so it's very similar to Jersey? I felt at home, at one point Alicia, that's on the show, she goes to Laura, she's one of us. It's like, are they, are they all of them Italian? No. No, okay. But they would come off as such. Hmm. When I say old New Jersey, I'm saying, there's an innocence about them. Mm-hmm. That we're all gonna love. And they put it all out there. This season they put it all out. Well, okay, that's all the questions I have. Let's get into Southern Charm, season 11, episode 11. And we're at Whitner, throws the dinner party. They're at itchy ranch. Itchy grass. Itchy grass, ranch, whatever it's called. And she, my skin is so dry. Because of the weather. Austin doesn't want to tell Shep Orkreg that he's single because he thinks they'll throw it back in his face. Well, you tell one person on this cast, Tara, you're gonna keep the secret here. I am so shocked. Madison's out there just telling everybody. She's just telling everybody. And they're so close. I feel like they're almost like brother's sister close and I'm like, Madison, we don't do that in New Jersey. We do not repeat what a friend says to us. Yeah. And then Shep thinks he needs to give advice to Austin about relationships. And I'm like, after last year, I don't think that Shep should give any advice. Like, what's his advice gonna be? Right, she's a text messages and give them shark tooth necklaces. I remember that. Oh my God, I felt so bad when he did that. I know. She wasn't into him. Like, I mean, I've never seen someone so clearly not into somebody. And then the shark tooth necklace just put it over the top. He really tried. Maybe they're a big deal over there, but they're like, that's something you buy like at the gift store and Dana point harbor. For like a 12 year old boy. Right, right, along with the Pukashells. Listen, I don't want to break the guy's heart. It was already for the minute. I know we love you, Shep, but like, I wanted to hug him when that happened because his little heart was broken. And she was like, so the ex, she had the ex. She looks so much like my son's girlfriend, Jordan. Like any time I post pictures, they're like, is that, what was the girl's name, Santa or something like that? Santa? Yeah, Santa because I'm the niece, Santa. Yeah. So then Craig front Sally about making up stories about him. Sally says Craig is the ultimate gas lighter. Austin tells Charlie that Craig actually didn't phrase things the way Sally is telling her, which is absolutely true. But we did this, this episode, get a flashback of the conversation. And he didn't soon you wait like, well, I don't know if I'm overthinking this. I think that's what kind of saved him. I'm saying, I don't know if I'm overthinking this. But it saved him in my eyes. Yeah, I did, but basically, I don't want to lead her on and then have to, why don't what do you say like break her heart or break up with her or something like that? Yeah, we always know how that plans. Hands. Yeah, and then she's on the other foot. I think it was Shep that said something long lines, well, how do you, why do you think you're going to break her heart? Maybe she's going to break yours or something. So you guys, we got a little bit of clarity on that. So Sally wasn't completely lying. She was just repeating what she said, was she exaggerating? We don't know because we didn't hear Shep, which Shep had told her. Right, because was it off camera? Must have been. Yeah, it was off camera. Good old Sally, see, they bring it on camera. What was told off camera? You know, Shep, like, you had to shut your mouth. And especially to Sally, who you know is on a rampage right now. Yeah, like what are you thinking? You know, Sally's not trustworthy to tell her something when it comes to that situation. It's like telling, that's like a Christmas present for her. Telling somebody something their enemies are about. I mean, you know, it's going to piss them off. Like, what are you doing? What happened to Bro Code? There is none on this. Like Paul won't even tell me shit about a guy in his life that's doing something wrong. He's like, I keep it from you to protect you from it too. I think that's a guy thing. Eddie's like that too. Just so you know. Eddie, most of my people are better secret than anybody. Paul, a lot of Eddie's conversations with me is like, I don't know if I told you this. I go, no, you probably didn't. Yeah, I know. I told you this. Nope, you didn't. That's how it starts off. When you know it starts off, you know he didn't tell you. Yeah. Yeah. He's trying to push in the blow for not telling you. Let's talk about Wittner's parents. Big Witt. Oh my God, how cute are they cooking dinner and the kitchen? They're so happy to have everyone over. And they're so like spicy in the way they talk and the way they earn front of the camera. It wasn't like they were shy or didn't know what to say. Or you know what I mean? Like, oh my God, these people are normal. They're normal. It's a normal family cooking. So happy to have everyone there. And the dad was so excited. You know, in my, you know, when, as you get older, that's all I want is for my kids to come back, bring their friends, bring their significant others, bring their kids, their dogs. That is the goal in life. For them to still be together, still be in love, have their kids doing well, have financially stable, very stable, as you can see. And they've just lived in normal life. And because of them, if I was the girl in the group, guys, I'd be going after Wittner. Oh, 100%. Like, what is thinking? What are you thinking? This guy was raised normal. He was raised with love. He's got good parents. Yes. He had a wonderful childhood growing up in itchy farm. Not going to have any mommy or daddy issues. Fighting horses. Girls, this is what you go for. Hello, when you're buying a dog or a horse, you look at the breed they come from. Pedagrey. So Wittner makes every, okay, so my worst nightmare, and I'm with Madison on this, playing a dinner game. Where you have to answer questions. Get the hell out of here. You don't play games in New Jersey. Can we just eat? I hate dinner. I just take games like that. I feel like anytime on housewives, they play a game, it's going to be shady. It's going to be 100% shady. Otherwise, they're not going to air it. Right, right. So it's like, whenever they get, let's play a game. I'm gone. Here we go. Here we go. We can just say one thing before I forget. In the comments, people are saying Dolores and Tamra, don't you remember Austin and Sally slept together in the past? What? You didn't see that under? No, I don't really read the comments. It's under our comments. On Tutti. Tutti. Oh, I didn't. Are we missing out on something? I don't know about any relationships that they had together, but she sure talks about his private parts a lot, and even his bubble. Sally. She was, oh, God, she's fun time, girl. She's fun time, girl when she's drunk. Yeah. She's a tossing the salad kind of girl. Listen. Maybe you should stop it because it's not working out. Oh, Sally slept with Shep. OK, so we were wrong. We'll admit when we're wrong. Sally slept with Shep. She once crag, got shot down. Now she wants Austin. Yeah, she's making around. Sally, it's not fishing in the same little pond. If you're going to go, go for the big fish, and that's Whittner. She also slept with Gaston. He was on last season. OK, we'll listen, Sally. I'm not faulting you for that. I'm not slut-shaming. I am not doing that. I'm only saying you're only young and pretty for so long, ladies. Go for the bigger fish and get out of the pond. You're fishing in the same pond. What happens when you fish in the same pond? You're going to catch the same fish. You're going to catch crabs. Ah! Ah! What a scream. We installed telephone wires across rural Britain. They were a century ago. And you're still paying to use them for your broadband today. If it ain't broke, what? Stop! Your days are selling phone age broadband are over! Blast off! Spill the beans! Upgrade to 100% full fiber. Gigaclear, faster broadband for rural Britain from only 19 pounds a month. Price may rise during contract. Tis and seas apply. Check availability at Gigaclear.com. 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Well, Charlie, you need to fix things. No shit, Charlie. What are you doing there then? When you see something, what is that saying? Be careful. Picking up broken. Somebody broken. You'll cut yourself. Never heard that. Did your mom tell you that one too? No. Instagram. Instagram. So after dinner, Chef tries to give up. I think I can give Austin dating advice. Austin says he is vulnerable, but not with chef and Craig. So he's basically saying, I open up, I talk, but not with chef and Craig, which I find like kind of crazy. So Austin doesn't trust either one of his castmates with any deep conversations. And I thought I always thought they were really good friends. I don't think you can really consider yourself close friends with someone. If you're afraid to open up around them. And that's how I feel in my life. Yeah. Well, the conversation was awkward. Like the comment between Austin and Chef was so awkward and confusing to me. Like Chef was giving all this advice, but I'm like, what are you talking about? You're not making any sense. But Austin doesn't trust Chef. Why do you think that is? I think because chef called Craig and said, I met some girls in New York and they said that Austin was whatever, you know, hitting on them or whatever. But Sally, talk about hitting on Sally's like, Austin so hot. He has a dad bod. I loved it. Who? Love's dad bods. Well, she likes it because it gives her something to hug. I feel like that about my dogs. I love pit bulls more than what I'm marrying. I like, I want to. I want to. I'm better off. But no, I mean, I mean, not, I don't mean that for Paul. But I love my dog. Yeah, I love my dog. I love a big guy. But I wouldn't describe it as dad bod. He's not even a dad. I just think of a dad bod is like a stark nipples. He has a dark, not the nipples. Oh my god. I think of like man boobs and like kind of a belly, but kind of scrawny, but kind of. You know what I like about him? He's funny like the grinch. His body. No, you know what I like about him? He's tall. And all tall there. It's crazy. I love it. That's what the mother was saying when they walked in the kitchen, witness mom, because witness the, the run. Oh, like six five. But you know what I love about them that makes them more attractive to me as far as I'm concerned. It's their frat, their frat boy humor. I think it's not. Oh my god. You know, I'm from New Jersey, so that doesn't like, but like frat boy humor, if I was a girl, like from around there, I would think it was funny and cute. Mm hmm. Well, the next morning Austin has an emotional hangover and Madison leaves early because she's emotional hangover. Emotionally hangover. Well, Madison's convinced the baby's coming early. And then they do flashbacks of Sally drunk that I before when cameras are down. I don't know who was taking these. I don't know if his iPhone or real cameras, but they're flashbacks of Sally drunk saying, I'm going to eat Austin's ass. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. As a booty hole. It's something I never like a guy's girl. It's something I never needed to hear. Do you think she cares that she said it? I think she was so drunk. You can tell how drunk she was. Oh. It's just shit was coming out of her mouth. I don't get drunk, but you don't drink. So I'm not going to blame being drunk on saying things that she just want to do. Well, they're probably deep inside the truth that you wouldn't normally say, I would just normally say that. I don't really care if I'm drinking or not. If that's what I was, but I wouldn't say like that in front of every body. But some people get more courage when they drink. Beer must have say, yeah, exactly. I don't think she needed to drink. What I'm trying to say is I don't think Sally needs to drink to say whatever's on her mind. No, I mean, she's pretty open about most things. She even talks about Austin's weiner. What about it at the dinner table? She wants it. That's what she was saying. What's up before after she was too far away? I want to see. It was when he got up and walked away. So I think it was the parents were still there. I think I'm not sure. She whispered it. She didn't say it out loud. She whispered it to Molly. Her Molly has been getting really close now. And then Molly's like, Rolls-Her-Rise, like, oh, God. I think Molly's really funny. I did too. Yeah. I think she's funny. I think that she's there for like comedic relief in it all. That's what her, I think, her point is on the show because she's kind of silly. I think she'll come into her own. I'm going to give her another season. Yeah. So then Charlie and Craig go canoeing and Craig couldn't be any more of a bitch by sitting there saying he's excited about him and Charlie, but it's hard when Sally keeps trying to get involved. Shut up, Craig. Stop talking about Sally. I couldn't, and most guys would not go there. I know. Do you see a future? I mean, watching them right now. Do you see a future? It's too soon. And well, we know it's not because he's with someone else. It's hard for me to say because I know they're not together. But whoever he's with, he's been with for a long time now. Yeah. Hopefully we get to see her. Now the boys go fishing. That was a really cool little area. You know, we don't really have those kind of areas around here, but it was like a little house and with open walls. And I don't know what they're called. They're called fishing hole. I don't know. Well, it's not exactly an exciting sport. That's for sure. But what we did get is some little bit of content there. And that's Austin, find the Rebels to shut that he is single. Yeah. And it was like pulling teeth. What was the big thing? And you know, it's funny because then he wakes up the next day and he's like, I think that would be calling her. I think that there was a big blow up after, you know, like two episodes ago when he was belly up with Sally. I think there was a big blow up. I think that happened and then they separated. Speaking of fish, I'm just going to say, I'm going to say that this is the one that got away. I think she was really sweet. Yeah. She was sweet. She was good for him. But you know, some guys don't want that. They want like a challenge and they want this then now. Why do they're called the time as well? Because they don't want to be single. I don't know. Then don't date a girl. Yeah. Don't say this is my girlfriend. Don't lead her on to think that if that's not something, if you're intentions, are not long term or tell them right out of the box. And then if they want to stick around for it, then that's on them. Yeah. At least give them the chance to know that. Like give them the chance to say whether or not they want that. I always would get mad when somebody was in a relationship and they weren't forthright and transparent. The other person is not transparent about their intentions and what they're really looking for. That takes away the person's option to stay or leave before they get really emotionally involved. And that's when I have a problem with it. I don't have a problem with you not wanting a long term relationship or not wanting to be serious with someone. Just be honest or just be honest. And I could never get mad if somebody didn't like me as much as I like them. That's not their fault either. You can't fault them. No. Long as they're honest and so many people live in denial. You can't live in denial. Yeah, I know trust me. Oh no, you love that because your favorite that makes my skin crawl. So the guys are fishing, saline, vanita, are talking and saline feels like vanita was trying to pin her and Molly against each other this whole time. She says if vanita tells your information to use her as a scapegoat, now do you think vanita was trying? I don't know that I see that. I know that vanita is near that. Vanita is loose, Lyft. She is. And who isn't on this show? Right. I agree. And I don't know that that's necessarily double standards. I don't like double standards. I know. Vanita gets really emotional and walks away. I was really shocked to see Vanita get emotional over this. Because she was hurt for her. I think she was so hurt because, well, I think that she held their friendship in a different place. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like that. I mean, for her to get that hurt. But I don't think Sally was being mean to her in any way. She wasn't. I think that Sally was kind of calling her out on some of her stuff. Now, is it hypocrite? Because they do it to each other. Yeah. I think so. So I don't know. I think she was getting called out. I think she's been attacked. Oh, I don't think she's been attacked. But I do think that it was a wake up call to where they stand in their friendship for her. And I think that's what hurt her the most. Yeah. So Vanita calls Madison. They do, I think it was a FaceTime or Madison calls Vanita. I can't remember. And she was right. Madison is in labor. So it's so exciting. Babies in weddings and all that are so fun to watch. And they are. They are. It's kind of like you, you know, you, you become almost so immersed in this. It's like an emotional, I mean, even if you don't know somebody that's having a baby, it's an emotional thing to watch. I mean, let alone experience with miracle. It's a miracle. And it's a beautiful thing. As long as it's not me. And I just think that it's exciting to see her and she's getting her girl. And she's so beautiful, Madison. She's really stunning. She has. So I'm just, I'm happy for her in her life. She's doing well. Her son is doing amazing. She's married to a good guy. She seems to be really in love. Yeah. He seems like a great guy. So one thing that I was confused about or disappointed the trailer for next week, it didn't have any crying baby. We didn't get. Madison, it was all about other stuff. So I'm like, do we get to see next week? Maybe it's just the trailer. Did it? Yeah. Maybe just the trailer didn't. Oh yeah. And then Patricia asked Austin to speak at her dog, Chancé's funeral. Don't forget about Chancé. Chancé went to Chancé pass away before, she did right before they filmed. I think there was a flashback. But they put Chancé. She has a black hair. He used a love to poop. And I'm like, maybe Chancé don't want to be where they're. Maybe he doesn't want to lay down here. He should. Well, there's like a whole pet cemetery in her backyard. I love her love for her animal. Yeah. And everyone goes along with it. It was really sweet. Whitney's right there. What is stood on going with it? They had bagpipes, Austin, the bagpipes. It was just the three of them. And the guy playing the bagpipes. And she was very happy. Austin did an amazing eulogy to the point, short, funny, cute, and described Chancé as not the smartest dog. But certainly the sweetest dog. Yeah. So it was kind of like, it was some other people on the show. But that's all we have for today, guys. I think that's a lot. It's a lot. Thanks for tuning in to Two Teas and a Pod. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. Tell your friends. Repose. Do all the things. Keep us going. And we'll be back next week. It's your coffee. Next week. Next week with episode 12. And hopefully we get to see Madison's baby. It's going to be pretty. Oh, it's going to be awful. Everything about Madison's pretty. How's the kids? The husband, everything. The clothing. It's all pretty. It's a pretty life. Yeah. OK, guys, thank you. Stop paying to invest. 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