Her Extraordinary Mind Challenges What We Know About Reality | Dr. Sandra Rose Michael

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The question is how many of our people are going to go with this planet or they can continue an Earth type experience because this planet is going into light. Welcome to Business Game Changers. I'm Sarah Westall. I have Dr. Sandra Rose Michael coming in the program. I've been wanting to have her on the show for quite some time because she has such an interesting background. And I got the opportunity to meet her. I flew out to Las Vegas and I got to experience her EE system, the product that she invented. And I got to sit in this room with all these monitors and I got to feel what it felt like. and I gotta tell you it was a very unique experience. I toured their facilities and I sat in their system and when I went in there I it was like I just suddenly was at peace. It was this amazing feeling that I felt and I've never felt that way before. The closest thing is maybe being by the ocean for after many days where I've walked barefoot on the ocean and I've done it many days in a row and a lot of the anxiety or what you feel you know from Wi-Fi and that goes away but even then I don't think it felt that same peacefulness and I felt like that within minutes and it was such an incredible experience and so I wanted her on I got an opportunity to talk to her too we went out to dinner and we got to learn about her she's really interesting I said you know what you got to come on to the thrive hour and just talk about your life I'm gonna start having her back on a semi-regular basis. I'm going to have her do a webinar with me so we can dive into her system and what she came up with, the scalar energy. She's really one of the foremost people in the world on scalar energy, and she's been lecturing all over the world. And so we're going to do a webinar on just that to teach people what that's about. but her background is absolutely incredible her parents worked on the bomb right the the Manhattan project they were working on that and then she was learning all about Tesla technology as a child and a lot of the work that her parents did was just declassified within the last 10 years I have a paper that I'm going to publish on Substack about her parents work that she sent me on that was just fairly within the last decade recently you know declassified but she's gonna share some of that with you today but she's also gonna share her her unique mind she's very different let me let me read if she's a genius it's probably why she makes her so different but let me read just her bio and then I'm gonna go into a little bit more that you're gonna hear today she's having taught holistic medicine for more than four decades dr. Michaels research and Applied Integrative Biophysics, has earned prestigious recognition, such as the presidential and international who's who. She has lectured at the United Nations, MIT, the World Summit on Integral Medicine, the Harvard Club, the Royal Society of Medicine, Mount Sinai Medical School, the Scalar Research Experts Conference, anti-aging congresses, as well as numerous medical schools and ministries of health worldwide. I mean, she's pretty much, she's been in demand around the world for decades because of her advanced research in scalar energy and its application to health. Dr. Michael has also been featured in various national newspapers and journal articles, including a recent prominent study on autism and seizure disorder, which was published in the Journal of Neurology Research. The true bioscalar EE system technology has been publicized by media outlets, such as CNN, Fox News, The Doctors, The Wall Street Journal, and the Beverly Hills Times. Knighted for her humanitarian service, Dr. Michael is a dame commander of the Order of St. John and the Orthodox Knights Hospital tradition and is the Minister of Health for the Republic of New Lumeria, a country dedicated to peace and healing. That's interesting. Currently, Dr. Michael is working to provide energy wellness centers to the United States veterans, which is an interesting topic, what's going on in the military and what she's doing with them, which we're going to talk about at some point, too. but this show I'm like you know what let's get into your cool background and how you think she remembers being in her stomach her mother's womb she remembers past lives she she can remote view she's super unique and I said okay we need to talk about your background and then how you see the universe and she said to me this is the first interview she's ever done like this and I'm like well that's what the thrive hour is about I just want people to see how you and unique you are. 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And also if you're on Apple Podcasts, listening to this on audio or watching it now on video, they also have video now. Please take the time to rate the show. I need to get some more ratings going on that platform. So anyways, this is a fun Thrive Hour. I hope you enjoy it. Here is my conversation with Dr. Sandra Rose Michael. Hi, Dr. Sandra. Welcome to the program. Hey, aloha. I'm just really happy to be back with you. We had such a great time when you were here in Vegas with us. Oh, I really enjoyed it. I've been wanting to have you on my program for a long time. And then I was invited to go to Vegas and we did those videos. I really appreciate it. I got to see what you do firsthand and experience it, which we're going to talk about it later in a little bit in the program. But I was absolutely amazed at what I experienced. and people are going to hear your background and are going to be amazed themselves you have a remarkable family and a background and it really is you're I want to start with maybe your parents and the fact that they were in top secret programs they worked on for DARPA and was it DARPA back then when they were doing the BOM and the research? I don't think it was called DARPA yet, because, but my mother was considered part of the extension, you know, of the, what do they call it? The, oh gosh, it just went out the window. It was the extension. I mean, she was working on the BOM. And it was that, what do you mean like an extended program that continued? Is that what you're saying or she was working on the initial bomb with the original Oppenheimer and all those guys yeah no it was the extension that it was moved to a different place in Ohio where they were doing it Battelle Labs and so it was actually kind of an interesting program that officially she was the photographer at Patel Labs, but she was fissioning plutonium in the lab the whole time she was pregnant with me. My parents met in engineering physics at Ohio State, which was the premier course and school for these top secret government programs, so to speak, at the time. And my dad was electrical, mechanical, structural, hypergenious engineer, and my mother, the nuclear physicist. Yeah. And so they were working on developing programs for before it was DARPA. What was the name of it before it was DARPA? Just the lab? Is that what it was? And then it migrated? Yeah, Battelle Labs, I mean, I'm not quite sure what else they called it exactly. I'll send you the write-ups that what recently got declassified. I'll send that to you if you want to include that for people that want to go down that rabbit hole a little bit because it was only recently declassified. Wow, okay, that would be interesting. I'll post that on my sub stack for people if they want to know more. Yeah, my dad worked on Mach 3 and the Valkyrie and things like that and couldn't ever talk about it. So, you know, it's finally declassified from the 50s. I mean, this is, you know, she was working on the bomb, fissioning plutonium in the labs at Battelle Labs the whole time she was pregnant with me. And I remembered it all vividly, which was pretty interesting, too. I thought everybody remembered all those kinds of things and past lives and stuff. I came in a little different with two top secret government scientists working on the bomb. And I came in going, wait a minute, how do we heal all of this? How do we bring healing to the world instead of these programs? Well, you said that you remembered. I mean, you have interesting background because you remembered when you were a baby. That is something that almost nobody, you know, I mean, I've never met anybody besides you who has memories as a baby. You have memories inside your mother's stomach. Inside the womb because, you know, she was visioning. And you remember that. Yeah, so that I remembered all of it. I thought everybody had that ability, which was kind of shocking to realize that people didn't remember their past lives. I remember I was very, very young, and I'm in the family that founded the Lutheran Church. My dad was in the bloodline of Martin Luther. and the house that I grew up on, it's all very interesting history. The house that I grew up on was deeded by President Andrew Jackson to our family. And then our family started like the Lutheran Church in Ohio. It's kind of interesting. So the church that was founded, and I grew up on a property that was more than 100 years old, was originally a log cabin. And it was a whole massive farm. but it's an interesting history. My mother was Lutheran, but from Cleveland. So my dad came from this very abundant background, you know, with the farm and having everything. And my mother came out of the consciousness of being part of, you know, back in the day, you know, that that lack of of coming out of the war. You know, it's it was such an amazing time. Well, why would you say that was an amazing time? America felt like they were on top of the world kind of thing. Or why would you say that? Yeah, after that, because the Great Depression is what her parents came out of. And she lived through and, you know, hoarding everything, hoarding rubber bands. And I mean, they just hoarded everything because of coming from that lack versus my dad on the farm came from this era and consciousness of great abundance. So there was always this bit of interesting conflict between the two of them with how they perceived wealth and abundance and the programming that they both had. It was a very interesting dichotomy growing up. My mother being part of what I meant to say is she was part of the extension of the Manhattan Project. Hypergenius, part of Mensa. So I grew up with all the Mensa games and Mensa brain training. Mensa being that organization atop 1% of credentials of IQs. So we see things a little different. And my dad had this amazing, amazing photographic memory for every aircraft, every destroyer tip to toe. It was photographic memory, cars, everything like that, everything mechanical and grew up on the farm. And it was an interesting dichotomy because I had all this. I grew up doing all the top secret government experiments, all of Tesla's work. You know, I thought everybody just played with Tesla coils growing up. And my favorite toys were Geiger counters and gyroscopes, literally. And the invisible woman and the invisible man. That's what I had for dolls. Okay. So you were different. But okay, I gotta go back to a couple of concepts you said. Your dad grew up on a farm where during the depression they had all the food they needed It sounded like they were growing their own food They were self Self and total abundance and tremendous wealth from his family would have been brought from over and, but grew up on the farm. Was it the farm? And it's at Marion, Ohio, which is also where President Harding was from. Well, okay. Was it the farm that gave him the abundance or the wealth that gave him the abundance during the Great Depression or both? Both because they had, you know, they, they, he had no sense of the, you know, lack. He didn't even know there was a depression going on. He was a kid growing up, whereas your mother felt it deeply and was lacking in food and everything. Oh, that makes sense. Growing up in the city in Cleveland was very different. You know, they had the, you know, the rations and all that stuff, but, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So they're both very intelligent, obviously. And then you grew up learning about Tesla. You know, I had a nuclear or a physicist on my show. He had his PhD and he was doing time travel and he, we ended up not airing parts of this because I was like, you know, I don't, he, part of, he admitted to it, this is anybody that's in, has their PhD in physics and teaches it at university cannot teach that Einstein isn't right. They have to teach that, you know, Tesla is the one that's wrong. Einstein didn't believe, he said the plasma field isn't proven and you can't, you maybe can now, I think things are changing now, but, you know, he's in his early 80s and you couldn't be a physicist at a top university and claim that and you wouldn't get your tenure. But at the same time, they have all these black programs that knew it was real and were actually studying it and doing it. Yeah, it was, but it was, everything was top secret. It was all under, you know, top government programs. My dad never could mention that he worked on the Valkyrie. That was just recently declassified. He sent me information on the Valkyrie, but he worked on a different Mach 3 program previous to that with North American Aviation. And that wasn't declassified. I think it was like 2014 or something. And he worked on it in the early 50s. Gosh, so think of the technology now. Yeah. I mean, it's actually, I think I was four years old when he was working on that with North American Aviation, that Mach 3. And that wasn't declassified, you know, till literally not very long ago. Well, it's now 10 years ago. Well, but that's why they say so much of the UFOs that are out there are actually our own military UFOs. I mean, there's a portion that supposedly we can't track back. They're truly unidentified objects, but the majority is really American or military of some sort. That's what I'm hearing. A lot of them have been back engineered. Absolutely. And, you know, my dad spent a lot of time at Wright-Patt University, Wright-Patterson, not University, the Air Force Base in Ohio, which is where they stored those unidentified flying objects, what they called them at the time. Now they have a new UAP now. Did he back engineer, reverse engineer the craft himself? Was he one of the engineers that did that? We're not sure because that has not been part of the declassified information. That makes sense. I have an engineering friend who has five science degrees. His name is Phil Catalano, and he worked for JPL, which is NASA's big contractor, right? And he has reverse engineered alien craft. He says, that's what I was doing. It's declassified now so I can talk about it. But I think so many of those people, that's what they were doing. Yeah. And there's there's going to be so much more coming out. But they were it was so classified, all the information of what he worked on, although it was mostly he worked on Mach 3 and things like that. But he spent a lot of time at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, which is where they back-engineered a lot of the downed craft. And it goes back for him. In fact, you know, he was working there on and off since the early 50s. so uh it's it's an interesting background because like i said my favorite toys were geiger counters and gyroscopes between my mother being um you know being a top secret uh working on radiation and my dad the aerospace electrical mechanical structural engineer with this photographic memory of you know i mean so it was an interesting background and growing up on the farm that with the whole background of, you know, Martin Luther and the whole Lutheran thing. So it's an interesting way to come in and grow up, I'll tell you. So you believe in or you've studied Tesla's work. Do you think that Tesla, are we, you know, a lot of the scientists that are missing look to have a pattern of being involved in plasma energy and research. And then all these big companies are plowing all this money into plasma research. To me, it looks like there's a war with energy right now based on what I'm seeing. But do you think... But I think that's been going on for a very, very long time. But I think it's more... My mother's whole thing was trying to get the bomb before the Russians and all this kind of stuff. So it's always been this kind of competition between the different countries and scientists. And, you know, and she really was, you know, here she's trying to do weapons of mass destruction, trying to get the bomb before the Russians. And I'm coming and going, wait a minute, how do we bring healing to the world? Well, and that's what you that's what you started focusing on. So do you think that plasma and the Tesla energy and that whole, is it going to come to the forefront? Are we seeing that now? Yes, we're seeing that now. It's absolutely, I think they're going to be declassifying and bringing a lot of things forward because there's been so much suppressed for so long. and of course we're working with the healing side of it which is what Tesla's a lot of what Tesla's real focus was about as he was looking to the future he developed some interesting products as he was viewing the future as far as one of them being there's an ozonated magnesium that he saw what was going to be needed in the future oxymag it's called or yeah so anyway and what is that one of his products that he ozonated magnesium that we would need that to help detox in the future and it releases oxygen through the entire intestinal tract so um yeah that's an interesting i mean so there's so much that Tesla viewed ahead of time and worked on. And so much that was suppressed. So, of course, we have our amazing president. It's his uncle, John Trump, that got all of Tesla's stuff from MIT. He got a lot of the classified material from Tesla's labs and things. So they do have those projects for being able to see the future, like Project Looking Glass. Well, and I've been training on remote viewing, so I know that there's something to all this stuff. I'm sure they've perfected it beyond that. But just the fact that I've seen the, there's just no way that you could take a number. Somebody's blind. You give them just a number and then I can lay out without even really how in the heck that, you know, that I am training for a while. Very, very well, highly directed program that was created. I mean, for me, I could view past, present, future. It's a little different, you know, because if you can if you can remember the past, you can also look at probable projected realities and you can remote view anything. It's just expanded awareness, really. But the government program really got it down to, you know, how they worked with it. You know, and that came out of, you know, different, a lot of different work that they took advantage of. And, of course, my friend, Dr. Fred Bell, was part of all that as well. He was Wernher von Braun's chief protege. And so he was a very good friend of mine as well. So that was an interesting. So now can they tell pretty much anybody? I mean, if they want to target whatever, anything like somebody, how is this person going to affect the country? Is this a good person? Are they going to do good things? Who the bad guys are? Who the good guys? I mean, how perfected are they at being able to tell the future? Can they do it down to the individual person? That kind of stuff? from what I've heard there is a lot of that that they can do but the future is not set till we arrive there so there's always a variance and a variable and what I have been told is that no matter how many ways they looked into the future no matter how many variables the great awakening cannot will not be stopped on this planet so no matter what happens yeah and no matter the convergence of timelines and just the timing on this planet and i've been told this you know in my you know guidance in my meditations whatever you want to call it for decades already the great awakening cannot and will not be stopped even though they're trying right they're trying hard oh they try any they've tried anything and everything imaginable and unimaginable to the dumbing down of Americans. I mean, they've tried everything. We've been poisoned any and every which way. And the Great Awakening cannot and will not be stopped because our DNA is our God code. That's why they tried to hijack it with that, you know, the jab. You know, that was a hijacking of the DNA itself. So it's kind of an interesting, but also it was told at a time, I mean, because I was shown the projected realities of, you know, one of the things that was a marker for me that I was shown was the takedown of the Twin Towers. And I'd go through New York, oh, they're still standing. Okay, we're good. We're still standing. And then the day that they were taken down, I was told not to get on the plane. I had just been through New York going, okay, they're still up, because that was a real marker of turning of things. And you can kind of think about that, the downing of the Twin Towers. And so, you know, the day that they were taken down, I got a message. I was supposed to be flying, and it's like, I'm not going. I'm just not to go anywhere. I'm going to stay home. which if you remember, everybody had to stay home. Yeah, they grounded all of them. It was pretty incredible. So yeah, and that was a real turning. It was like a tipping point marker in timelines. And so but then I was always told that a great awakening cannot will not be stopped. The other big marker that I was shown was that there would be this so-called flu, so-called flu with this artificially created vaccine that they would try to get everybody to take and that that was a bioweapon to try to stop this this movement again to stop yeah great awakening on this planet to hijack the planet are they gonna give up on stopping the great awakening. Is there a point where they just say surrender and say, we give up on trying to stop it, we're going to join it, and we're going to do the best we can? No, they have not been exiting gracefully, let's just say that. They've been digging their heels in trying anything and everything they can while they can, but the gigs up. You know, it's like the fan where everything's going, it's going, it's going, but it's been unplugged now. But there's been so much in that motion for so long that it's got to kind of wind down and that's what we're in this wind down and the great awakening uh but it's also this i was told that it was really important that people were given a choice those that weren't ready to for a new heaven new earth within the time of apocalypse really this time of the great awakening the apocalypse the great revealing feeling what revelation is really about you know that's the time that we're in the turning of the ages and this great awakening that there are those that weren't ready to make that shift and they'd be given the opportunity to check out quickly easily after this so-called flu you know this crazy uh created you know engineered flu uh that they could check out easily and go to go to other planets to continue their evolutionary process essentially because is it all subconscious yeah so they can continue to be a choice but is it a subconscious decision that they're making, then they're not aware. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, most people are certainly not aware of their unconscious, subconscious choices. And consciousness is all about, you know, becoming aware of what you're choosing moment by moment rather than being at effect. Yeah. It's about the great awakening, you know, waking up and realizing we are the sons and daughters of God. We are the Christed beings. We, you know, everything Christ talked about, we're here to fulfill. This is a time of revolution, that evolution and the, you know, revelations, the great revealing. It's, you know, I grew up very seeped reading that Bible cover to cover as a Lutheran. That was really important. but by the time I was 12 I had every translation to try to figure out what they had translated into what, when, where, why, how researching because they wrote out so much or rewrote so much they were like more than a dozen people killed to create the King James Version which is very interesting and remember I'm in that Martin Luther bloodline, he started the whole protest or Protestant movement by putting the edicts on the wall of the church and being a major rebel. Sure. Yeah. In my blood. So you claim that, or you believe, and because of what you remember, that you are from, you had different lifetimes not on this planet or also on this planet? Well, there's both, but primarily this planet. It's been part of the evolutionary process. And I would talk about this from the time I was like three or four years old, three years old. I'd talk about Atlantis. And because it was the most parallel time to this time on the planet with all the abuse of power. And it created a cataclysm. Well, instead, we want to create a cataclysm of consciousness rather than having to cataclysm a planet again. Let's not do that. But it was the most parallel time to now because the Mad Atlantean scientists were doing, we've got reruns of what the Mad Atlantean scientists were doing with the cloning and things like that. And also what they were doing with the abuse of power, with what they were doing with scalar weaponry and things like that as well. the difference between that time and this time is they lost didn't they and this time we're not going to that's my understanding and that we really are absolutely correct we're at a time i mean you can look at the procession of the equinoxes you know i studied sanskrit i studied the vedas and you know the you know and the vedas were written down more than 5 000 years ago and And for those that want the best books on understanding physics, it's the Vedic knowledge, which was written down more than 5,000 years ago. So I studied and researched that. And they talk about this time of the turning where we're going. It's a great cycle of the turning of the ages where we're going from Kali Yuga, the age of chaos and destruction, you know, to the golden age. And we have officially crossed that So we in this great time of turning 12 12 000 year cycle on the planet uh and it the and it to be the balancing now those that didn want the balance wanted to create you know we went from matriarchy to patriarchy back in the day you know under matriarchy the men were good for sex and labor under patriarchy the women were that's awful i did the balance is the right thing right I mean, that's awful. One direction and the other is awful. So, yeah. And so they wanted to flip it back to matriarchy, but that's not it either. That's not going to work for us. We want to create the balance, the balance of the masculine, feminine, God, goddess within us. And so there was tremendous suppression of Mary Magdalene's work, you know, called her a whore, you know, all that. And now a lot of the Mary Magdalene teachings are being brought forward. You know, it's a very interesting time. You know, to recreate that balance of the alchemical sacred marriage, but the sacred marriage, a balance of masculine and feminine, that's all ultimately within us. Yeah, I think that is, I could see the fight that's happening to try to mess that up. And the fight that they don't want the balance of the feminine to the point where, I mean, the fight against it is incredible. And a lot of that fight is coming from religious people or Christians. What is that? I don't understand. Well, it kind of, you know, it was a hostile takeover. And, you know, Lucifer's known as the great deceiver. That's right. And that's what we're dealing with. But back to that right-left brain hemisphere balance, I have more than 30 years of studying that. But that is really an old secret of the mystery schools called the alchemical sacred marriage. And it's within us, the balancing of masculine and feminine, but right and left brain. So when you studied the remote viewing, that is a key principle or focus is that synchronization of right and left brain hemispheres. And that allows you to have more of the visions. Well, I'm getting better at it as I'm doing it. And it's forcing me to calm down and learn myself better. I did it more to learn myself, right? And people who want instant gratification, it doesn't really, it's not really what that's about. It's about learning yourself and relaxing and kind of going inward. It's been an interesting process for me that I could get anything. I mean, I think with the number, being able to get anything is remarkable, but actually being able to define in detail an entire target, that's pretty, it's a remarkable process. Yeah, that came out of, a lot of it came out of the Monroe Institute too. But the key piece of it is that synchronization of right and left brain hemispheres. And that becomes very easy to achieve in an EE system. So it gives you that access to infinite intelligence, essentially, that point of balance of god goddess within us right left brain synchronization the balance of the masculine feminine within us then is what opens up the infinite potentials and infinite possibilities past present future is all one in in fifth dimensional reality and scalar is a fifth dimensional and and beyond technology well when i was in your i went to your your facility and i sat in the, you know, it's different hearing about it than actually experiencing it. And I'm so glad I got a chance to experience one of the full blown surround system. All of a sudden, when I went in there, it was like, I just my whole body was calm. It was it was really a remarkable experience for me. Because it's zero point, zero points where everything's in balance. You know, it's supporting that balance that we are innately designed to have as divine beings. Everything has been to keep us out of balance. And that is a victim mode. You know, that's what right, left brain, you know, brain dominance is a victim. Constant compensation for imbalance, the struggle and keeping people in that victim mode. When you balance that, you go to a place of deep inner peace where you know total oneness. with God, goddess, essentially within you. It's very interesting. It's that Christ consciousness. It was a very interesting experience for me. And I think people should experience that just to, especially if you're someone that can feel energy. Oh my God, it was immediate for me. And it was pretty incredible. I got to ask you a couple more questions since you've been studying this for so long. I got to ask you, what is the deal with mars was mars another civilization that got destroyed yeah and then well marduk um so i love the escapees from marduk that which was destroyed which was um implode it imploded essentially that's the planet between uh yeah that's the media that's the asteroid belt were people on mars too or no they escaped to mars and to earth both some escape to Mars, some escape to Earth. But Marduk was kind of the one that it was a destruction of, I mean, by abuse of power, the same things we were dealing with in Atlantis, essentially. Was it a planet like Earth? These are my memories. Okay, so these are my memories. Yes, you can find these from other people that have really, you know, this isn't a lot of what I have spoken about or brought out at all. Oh, this is probably the first interview where anybody's ever asked me about that. I'm sorry. Here's the reason I'm asking you is because I just did a remote viewing session that I was tasked with. And it was the face of Mars. And I came up with all sorts of interesting things. And Des, who, you know, he always yellows, highlights things that he thinks I, where I hit the target. And the entire thing was yellow, right? Right. And I'm that's why I want to know what you experienced with it, because the face of Mars, I got it. You know what I got from it? I got it. He thinks that he was I can't verify this. But I got that it was a massive distribution hub. There was a portal there that was ancient. It's camouflaged. I mean, I got all sorts of stuff like that. No, no, that's all correct. Yeah. And although we really want to focus on Earth, we have a new Earth because it is so key in the multiverse in, you know, in the shift of the ages. But, you know, the Earth is so key in that. But the Mars story and Marduk and all that. And there's, you know, they've tried to do bases on Mars. You can remote view the bases on the dark side of the moon, too. you know i mean i know i have um so it's very very interesting but really the whole multiverse is watching earth right now it's like um from the pleiades they it's like uh showtime you know you see them uh kind of watching like on their big screens like you watch uh you watch games I feel like you watch football games or something. Really? Because we're at such a turning point? Is that why? Yes. This is a tipping point and a turning point. And Earth is so key in that. And the great awakening that cannot, will not be stopped. New heaven and a new Earth. Now, the fact that they're watching, is it because we're going to be joining a new community as well? Yeah, because we've been kind of quarantined on this planet. You know, from our elevated space brothers, there's been both, you know, we've got the war between the dark and the light between, you know, different races there, too. And that's part of what's gone on here. But this planet is waking up. This planet is going back into light. Right. It's meant, I mean, if you look around, it's such a beautiful, creative, heavenly planet. And they've done anything and everything to try to create hell on Earth instead of heaven on Earth, really. But look at the greatness of the beauty of this planet. There's nothing like it. But do you think, and this is something that I would really want you to say yes to, but you don't have to. is there going to be a part time where they just give up because they've lost the war? I suppose there is, but how long is that? How long do we have to wait before the media and what we talk about isn't just us in these channels that are suppressed, but it's actually open? Yeah, how long is it going to take? That's one of those things. If they ever told me how long things would take i get shown the visions like 20 30 years ahead thank you very much and then then i'm i joke about it but i'm like the kid in the back seat of god are we there yet are we there yet yeah yeah yes i see i've been shown the future and new heaven new earth and we're in it this is the great a great awakening the time of disclosure the great revealing revelations pluto went into Aquarius. This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius. You know, astrologically, you can look at some of those things, but everything's being exposed and disclosed. Disclosure, exposure, everything's coming out. No more secrets. There's actually a chant, a Hawaiian chant. No more secrets. Let the words fly free. It's time of the great remembrance and people waking up. The question is how many of our people are going to go with this planet or they can continue an earth type experience because this planet is going into light. So are you saying that this will almost, there will almost be a split where some people are going to go into light and other people are going to stay here, but in a different timeline? I mean, I hear that. I'm like, I don't understand that. But is that what you're saying? It's more like there's, they're checking out. There's other planets they can go to to continue an earth type evolutionary process that makes more sense to me like they just that's the way i see it and envision it but maybe that's because that's easier to understand but that's what i've been shown so okay you're right it's better it's best to focus on what we have here although i to me that was super interesting because i want to know what and our past if that's the past that helps us understand the future and i'd like to know if there's still advanced stuff going on there are there still what you just what you just said is a real key otherwise the past is past who cares but how does it help us understand our higher purpose our highest potential our higher purpose or you know getting our highest vision is is what it's really about knowing anything and everything there is to know the knowing which that allows all things to be totally clear for us, you know, to know and understand our highest purposes and our being here, you know, our greatest mission, our vision, you know, that's, that's what we're really here for. We just want to fulfill it and get her done as far as I'm concerned. Get her done. So, okay. Would you, would you recommend, I mean, one of the things that I talk to you about is your, I want to talk about your system because it was, like you said, it creates this perfect environment where you don't get the radiation. You don't get, you get the perfect frequency environment so that it modulates and is healthy for your body. And that's amazing in and of itself because we have so much coming at us that is harmful. Yeah, we're being bombarded 24-7, the EMF, ELF, radiation, microwave, besides all the toxins in our air, our food, our water, plus I'm trying to hijack our DNA, which again was something I've been told about for decades, that they would try to hijack the DNA itself because that's our God code. But they failed, right? I mean, they failed. The great awakening cannot, will not be stopped, is what I've heard over and over and over. I've heard too from many people. We've won. It's like, well, okay, we've won. We've won, but I want to feel it now, guys. I've been shown the future. I've been shown the future. So it's like, okay, how do we get there from here? Now that is the great mystery. And I want them to give up now because it's like, stop. Okay, so. Anytime now would be great. We want our planet back. Yeah, leave me alone. So, okay. And it is about, you know, we joked about two blondes trying to do a program here. You know, as we're working through technical difficulties and Mercury retrograde. But, you know, it's like the Great Awakening, though, cannot, will not be stopped. But it is the sacred feminine energy. It's the women stepping up to create the balance. And that's why it's so important that we come together, too, and hold that space of that balance for the planet. But it's the women stepping up, going, and that's enough of this nonsense. We want our planet back, and let's create the balance. We don't want matriarchy again, either. That didn't work either. No, no. Well, what's the point of that? You know, it's the no. Yeah. No. I love my son, too, you know, and my husband. Exactly. I have a magnificent son. Yeah, the sacred masculine energy, the sacred feminine energy. We want to bring that up. We want men to be real men. We want men. This is the thrive hour. and I want everyone to thrive to their highest potential. That's what the whole point of this is. And that means everyone. I didn't say men. I didn't say women. I didn't say, I said everyone. Highest potential. Highest expression. Highest potential. But it is about honoring the masculine feminine energies because that is the balance of God, goddess and the expression of all that is within us. But there is a balance to that. So it's very interesting to work with as well. But it's all about fulfillment of our highest potential and balance and balancing of the infinite energies that are within us because it's all in our DNA. Our DNA is our God code, you know. So do you recommend somebody going and just experiencing it? Because I know one of the things like sitting in your systems, sitting in that environment. and one of the things that you said to me, it's good to sleep with it. Like, and, and so people who've experienced it want it by them in their bedroom and sleep with it and have it by them all the time. But do you, I see, this is what I think. I think people should just go to a center or someplace and experience it and feel what I'm talking about because it's a different, I've never experienced anything like that yeah it's it was designed to create the energy we would have if we had heaven on earth right now the ideal optimal energetic environment because they hijacked all the chakras of the planet the energy vortexes they've been trying to you know discombobulate us by emf radiation all these radiation poisoning you know part of my gift for my mother thank you very much you know because we come in on purpose to fulfill a higher purpose right the gift from my mother she was fissioning plutonium in the labs the whole time she was present i came i came in knowing radiation the effects of radiation literally from the inside out going how do we heal all of this so my technology instead of fissioning plutonium, it's fusion. It's a fusion technology to reverse all the issues of radiation and to activate our own radiance, our own light, because it's activating the light at the very core of our DNA, because prime function of DNA is actually the storage of photons, are quantums of light because we are bodies and beings of light having this grand experiment here so we want to activate that light within us and a key code of the technology is not ever in position a key code of the technology is however is in alignment with true best and highest for the individual for the planet however is in alignment with true best and highest activating that light within us uh so that you know it's enlightenment literally from the inside out and so the cells get excited about it because it's activating the divine potential that's within us it's activating that electrical charge of our our you know cell membrane potential You know, and bringing it back up to 70 to 90 millivoltage versus cancer can't exist in the body until it's below 20. That's why we see such miraculous results because it's bringing everything back into the great divine design of these bodies. The great divine design of the DNA itself and activating that light within the very core And you felt it right away because it like it like plugged into I call it plugged into the cosmic light socket The power that made the body heals the body But I ask God, I ask good questions. I ask God, how do we plug people back into that cosmic light socket? Universal unlimited power on. And so that's what the technology is about. It's like plugging in with, but nothing touches you. It's like Tesla's work. It's wireless transmission. it's the med beds but it's not one person at a time because i asked god i said wait a minute my my first scalar healing light chamber i built 1978 you know i've been teaching healing more than 45 years but my first scalar healing light chamber i did all kinds of research with nasa and brought together you know all these components you know different components with power management equipment and it was one person at a time but it was a scalar healing light chamber and we saw total reversals of mesothelioma and and all kinds of different different things total because the body the power that made the body heals the body the body wants to heal i started in chiropractic in 1971. So, you know, so it is that key code. But, you know, but that was one person at a time. And finally, it's like, you can't heal the world one person at a time. That's, you know, it's like, wait a minute, God, how do we bring healing to the whole world? So there's now close to 600 centers in 60-some countries with the system technology, although primarily when this was developed, the first full system, 97, 98, and I was doing research with NASA, and NASA researchers themselves found that it was repairing all the genetic damage, reversing all the DNA damage, and lengthening the telomeres, so true age reversal. I mean, that was found in the labs. We couldn't really talk about it, but that was found in the labs in the late 90s, early 2000s with the research with NASA. Wow. It was creating an ideal optimal energetic environment where the body can heal anything and everything. But also to know, let yourself know, like plugging back into the cosmic light socket and let yourself know whatever God wants you to know. So I tell people to say their prayers and ask God, ask your higher self, put your highest guidance, to turn up the volume on your own inner knowing and know whatever God wants you to know. Again, that's part of the remote viewing that can be done because it creates that right-left brain synchronization so quickly and profoundly. But you feel that in yourselves, that little bit of a buzz It's like activating that light that's within you. It's like you're plugged back into that cosmic light socket. Because of the way the phase conjugation and the implosion. Well, I felt something different. The release of charge. I felt something different. And I think it was probably the way I was. I felt, didn't feel like energized as much as calm. Like I needed the, like I'm always getting bombarded. And I think my cells are too activated or something. And the anxiety of that's how my body is handling everything that's hitting me and getting in that. Because people get stuck in fright, flight, or fight, the brain dominance. They get stuck there. And this brings you back to that. It just calm. Yeah. You can break and relax. That's what I felt. It was like, wow. And Dave, he was next to me. Dave Hodges. He fell asleep. It's like, wake up. We got to go. yeah because the body that's where the body's going to receive the most benefit so the body's trying to go where it can grab the energy reboot reset everything as quickly as it can because it has an ideal optimal energetic environment where the body's going to grab the energy and try to repair any and all of the dna damage or any you know it's giving the body the energy to just heal itself. And you have, you just talked about the NASA studies, you have a lot of peer-reviewed studies, you have other doctors that you work with, you talk all over the world, you've talked at all, so many different institutions, you are also are working on an interesting thing, where you are going to be able to die, or you can already diagnose illnesses, right? And you're working with, I don't know if you can talk about that or not, but you're able to do that. Well, there's a lot of technologies that have been very, very good for that. A lot of scientists that we've worked with that have done a lot of that work. You know, Professor Konstantin Meyer, for example, did some of that, but Professor Konstantin Karotkov, the bio well technology is is a good technology but there's you know there's a lot of different technology out there and we're working with that my whole thing is how do we heal the world so and so more of my work it you know what i get excited about is the projects for um for purifying or healing all the water on the planet getting everybody pure water and the cleanup of the oceans and the cleanup for Fukushima. You know, when Fukushima happened, I stepped forward with solutions for that. And the government in Japan, because I was working with the government at the time, and brought that forward and they said, can you personally get us permission from either Obama or Clinton? Because they weren't allowed to actually fix it, to repair it, to do what should have been done. And, you know, they want, you know, what should have been done to repair that. And so we're dealing with extreme radiation poisoning on the planet. You know, it was actually, you know, I worked with, you know, NASA scientists that found that what we're dealing with is actually with Fukushima. It was an extinction level event as far as our DNA. and so we're doing the things how do we put the dna all back to its original divine design its original form its original design because that's that's where our healing is so do you uh do you anticipate the government getting out of our way with the healing or do you think that there will be, I keep going to the same question, when will they leave us alone so that we can heal, that we can get some of this stuff out there and not have so much fighting it on hand against just helping people? Yeah, against, yeah, because it's been a battle for the souls of mankind being fought in the healthcare arena. Now, that is a quote from my dear friend, daniel brinkley wrote saved by the light after he was hit by lightning and and was dead for 28 minutes and met these beings of light maybe you know saved by the light daniel brinkley i recommend you read it our technology was part of his final vision i met him in 1991 in egypt so i've known him a long time and so this is where we're at this turning um with the battle for the souls of mankind literally being fought in the healthcare arena. And so the hijacking of our DNA, because that's our God code. But there's a lot going on with all of that. And that being brought forward for the largest healthcare system on the planet is for our veterans. And so that's been a focus of my work of working with veterans for decades, actually. The veterans are a big deal. I knew you were working with veterans. I wasn't sure how far in your technology was with the veterans or more the diagnostics was with the veterans leading into what you were doing. Yeah. Well, the diagnostic still doesn't heal anything. No, it just tells you what's happening. I agree with you. So, okay. And whatever you focus on expands. That's not going to, you know, yes, we want the validations, but I'd rather everybody just get healthier. That makes sense. Healing is wholeness and holiness. That's what healing means, really. Healing means wholeness. But it's really about our holiness, remembering the sacredness of our bodies and who we are and all that we're here for. And let's be those divine Christed sons and daughters of God. So I want to get you back to actually do a deep dive webinar for people if they're interested in seeing that. And being able to ask, do Q&A type questions if you're interested. Because I think people have so many questions and they don't know where to go and what to do. I think they should go and experience this. And if they are interested, they can get it for themselves too, right? I mean, they can get these in their own homes. Yeah, thousands of systems in private homes all over the world. And that's really, you know, Dr. Victor Marcial Vega, who did our initial clinicals in 2001 to 2002, 137 patients or something like that. He said every home should have one. And that's really where it should be because we just want to have, you know, we want to live our greatest life, our greatest love, no more excuses. But it's, you know, how do we bring healing to the world? I was asking God that and got given this as an answer. And I was told we had to create a technology because there's so much technology that's been weaponized against us. That's, you know, Scalar has been abused and used against people for so long. They said, I had to create the technology to create the counterbalance to all the abuse of Tesla's work. And so Tesla's been, you know, kind of with me my entire life and bringing this forward because a lot of it is based on his work. So it's pretty much the counter, one frequency coming in and the other frequency can, from a physics standpoint, another frequency balances out that. It counteracts it and neutralizes it. You do that in combination. Go ahead. Yeah. Scalar overrides all the detrimental destructive fields with coherence. You know, coherence overrides incoherence. You know, just like the light overrides any darkness. So that was part of this, to override all the destructuring, destructive fields with the higher power, the power of love, which is the great unifier. There's really ultimately only fear and love. And fear was just the forgetfulness of who we are, all that we are, all that we're here for. This is all about that total remembrance, remembering in our bodies, remembering who we are, all that we are, all that we're here for as divine sons and daughters of God. So it's really a very spiritual. But the word spirit comes from the Latin word spirare, which means to breathe. And God breathed the breath of life into man. After that, we're in this free will zone, whether we're continually, constantly, consciously reconnecting with that source energy of all power, all light, all love or not. So is the frequency that you're sending a frequency in a most simplistic terms, the frequency, the scalar frequency is a love frequency that you're sitting in. yes you know ultimately it's it's all about god's love that's it it's no matter what the need whatever the problem love is the answer and it overrides all detrimentalities god is love it's a simple equation that i took very seriously as a child god is love and fearing god cannot share the same space. If you think you can't, you can't. If you know you can, you can. So I asked God really good questions. I got really long answers and was told to create this. And it's like, oh, can't we just meditate? It's like, no, they're weaponized so much technology against us. I was asked to create the counterpoint. And it's a fusion technology to counteract all the fissioning that's gone on and all the abuse of power and all the, you know, all the Atlantean cloning and all these things that we got the same mad Atlantean scientists back doing all the same dumb stuff. But we want, it's time, we want a new heaven, a new earth. You know, the great awakening is from within us, each and every one of us remembering who we are, all that we are, all that we're here for. And I go, okay, God, how do we create that next quantum leap of consciousness for a planet? How do we support that? How do we make it easier for people to remember who they are? And this was the answer. And people need the things that support, like our medallions and bracelets, because it helps you stay strong and reminds the DNA of its original divine design And it helps you stay strong no matter what you're exposed to. So you have, for people who are really technical people, who really dive in and want to understand, you can go to your website. You have peer-reviewed studies there and technical explanations of what's really going on so they can dive in and figure it out. Yeah, eesystem.com. There's a lot there. I mean, we've done so much work with so many of the top secret government scientists because they'd all be sent in. You can look at what's there with John Orva. He was the head of science for the Pentagon in his time and top biophysicist. And he came with a very, very high level, you know, oscilloscope and came and they described what he was seeing and what it meant. And then we did a lot more research together. That's not on our website, but it was fascinating research. But you can pull up that interview with John Orva on YouTube, or I think it's on our website still somewhere, and it should be John Orva. And he was literally the head of science for the Pentagon and president of Biophysics Research Foundation. But we did some fascinating brain research besides what you saw with the oscilloscope. So we actually, because he was considered the top researcher in brain. So we did some fascinating brain research. So you can find all that healing. Yeah. Yeah. And that's that. I just think for people, because there's my audience wants, they want to study. They really are smart and they dig into stuff and they want to learn about things. But I think other than doing that, they can experience it themselves if they're interested. I just really appreciate it. The main thing is a personal experience and ask your own questions and let yourself know the answers. The clearer the question, the clearer the answer. Ask and let yourself know for yourself and yourselves what is there to know. you know because it's not about a theoretical intellectual understanding when you know at a cellular level you know and that's that connection to the infinite interesting okay so they can go to what is the eesystems.com and they can figure out where a center is tons of research is out there we've done so much for decades, you know, decades, literally, you know, I'm in my pushing my mid seventies now. So we've been at it for quite a while. But there's, there's a lot they can know about. They can also pull me up on YouTube or you're all over the place. I just wanted to interview you because I wanted to hear some of your background is so fascinating. And all these other experiences. thank you so much for joining the program today i really appreciate it i have to have you back i got to do a webinar with you i really appreciate the time that you spent no thank you so much for having me on i loved meeting you in person versus i've been watching you and and we had spoken some time ago uh and you know about an issue with somebody but i was traveling i was in the middle of God knows where I was because I've been trying to heal the world a long time. So I've been all over it. I have more than five million air miles on the spot. So I'm back here in Vegas right now. Finally, I had just landed back in when I saw you last. But, you know, we just want to heal the world. So we've been all over it for decades. And so thanks for having me on. I look forward. it's fun because for me, because, you know, it's the women stepping up that creates the balance. And so I appreciate your, you know, this time with you. Thank you so much for joining the program. you