R&B Money

Blaq Tuxedo

94 min
Jan 28, 20263 months ago
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Summary

Tank interviews music producers Dom and Darius (Blaq Tuxedo) about their 13-year journey from Sacramento to LA, early struggles living in their car, breakthrough placements with Doja Cat and Chris Brown, and upcoming Black Tuxedo project. The conversation covers music industry realities, early career deals, creative partnerships, and the importance of persistence in entertainment.

Insights
  • Early-stage artists lack bargaining leverage; accepting unfavorable deals to survive and build momentum is often necessary for long-term success
  • Consistent quality work and reliability build professional reputation and lead to repeat opportunities from established artists and executives
  • The music production business requires psychological resilience—rejection and criticism are constant, requiring delusional confidence to persist
  • Mentorship from established industry figures (Damon Harvey, LA Reid) accelerates growth more than formal education or connections alone
  • Geographic relocation and lifestyle sacrifice (living in cars, studio houses) are often prerequisites for breakthrough in competitive creative industries
Trends
Producer-driven R&B: Producers increasingly credited as co-creators and featured collaborators rather than background contributorsLong-tail hit strategy: Records can gain momentum months or years after release through organic social discovery and streaming algorithmsArtist-producer partnerships: Successful creatives maintain long-term relationships with 2-3 core producers rather than rotating collaboratorsMentorship networks in music: Established artists actively invest in developing emerging talent as part of industry ecosystemStreaming era economics: Early career survival depends on multiple revenue streams (placements, features, production credits) not album salesFashion as brand extension: Visual identity and styling integral to artist positioning and differentiation in crowded marketCollaborative project strategy: Artists launching group projects (Black Tuxedo) to diversify portfolio and reach new audiences
Topics
Music production career developmentRecord label deal negotiation and termsArtist-producer collaboration dynamicsStreaming platform economics and hit placementR&B music genre evolutionMusic industry mentorship and networkingCreative partnership and brotherhood in businessEarly-stage startup survival strategiesFashion and personal branding in musicMusic video production and performanceVocal production and arrangementPublishing rights and royalty structuresGeographic relocation for career advancementLong-term career strategy vs. short-term dealsResilience and persistence in creative fields
Companies
Universal Records
Label that signed Blaq Tuxedo early in their career; Kevahaw introduced them to Damon Harvey
iHeartMedia
Podcast network distributing R&B Money podcast where this episode aired
People
Tank
Host of R&B Money podcast; established R&B artist mentoring Blaq Tuxedo; provided early validation of their music
Doja Cat
Artist whose collaboration on 'Streets' with Blaq Tuxedo became breakthrough hit after year of organic growth
Chris Brown
Artist who collaborated with Blaq Tuxedo on 'Iffy' during COVID; regularly featured their music in performances
Damon Harvey
Music executive who mentored Blaq Tuxedo at studio; provided guidance and industry connections early in career
LA Reid
Music industry executive who validated Blaq Tuxedo's work and provided mentorship during development phase
Kevahaw
Executive at Universal Records who introduced Blaq Tuxedo to Damon Harvey, facilitating key career opportunity
Andre Mary
Music industry figure who provided early critical feedback on Blaq Tuxedo's music, pushing them to improve
Fly Styles
Producer and mentor who introduced Blaq Tuxedo to LA music scene and provided housing during early LA years
Victoria Monet
Artist who collaborated with Blaq Tuxedo in early studio sessions in Sacramento
Michael Jackson
Musical influence cited by Blaq Tuxedo as inspiration for their R&B production style
Usher
Artist whose 'Confessions' album inspired Blaq Tuxedo's production approach for certain records
Beyoncé
Artist cited for passion and artistry; referenced as model for creative excellence
Quotes
"There are no bad deals, man. Like I just I just feel like you have to do what you have to do."
TankMid-episode
"Cracking is the remedy. So let's get to cracking."
TankMid-episode
"You don't have any bargaining chips. Right. You don't have any leverage. And the leverage you think you have is really in your head."
TankDeal discussion
"We didn't get it here. We didn't get a lot of niggas. A lot of drip. And it's fine. We got a lot of sons."
Blaq TuxedoEarly career reflection
"It's not a sprint, it's a marathon for sure."
TankCareer advice
Full Transcript
This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. I'm Jay Valentine. And this is the Army Money Podcast. Come on, Killer. This is the Army Money Podcast. This is the Army Money Podcast. Take, take Valentine. We are the biggest artists on all things R&B. Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Tank. I'm Jay Valentine. And this is the Army Money Podcast. Come on, Killer. The authority. Yeah, yeah. Oh, the old thing. Oh, the old thing. Yeah, in the streets. Oh, to be young. Learning lessons and love. Gifted. Yeah, and free. Yeah. And lit. I'm in the show tonight. The young fellas. They hoop. Yeah, yeah, we're going to get to that. Big dance. Big at all the pearl. Yeah, make these. He's every week. Keep some fresh. Where the. That's why. That's why. Because they get the results. Because they get the results. Listen, man, we got our little brothers, man. Listen, no emphasis on little, man. That's just an age thing, man. But the big boys is what I'm trying to tell you. Yeah, sir. Yeah. Yeah. Huh, Dom. Darius. Yes, sir. I mean, I, you know, I didn't mean you was D and D. But we got a new thing going right now. It's called Blark. Talk Seed. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, sir. Brothers. Everybody over there! You're so much in love! You're so much in love! Blood brothers! Blood brothers, it's that. That's what's crazy. Like, that's really dope to see. You know what I mean? Because this business, this thing that we're in, this place that we're in, it can do some crazy things to you. And it can, it's kind of built to tear things apart. And you all have maintained the brotherhood. You know what I mean? On a high level. And that's what I really respect. Really respect you all for. Like, no if ands of butts. It's dumb and dairious. Yes, absolutely. All the motherfucking time. All the time. And, and, and, brother, it's just, it's just incredible, man. And, and the work that you guys do, continue to do. You keep elevating. You keep growing. Yeah, I felt like, I felt like I watched Elvis Yves babies. You did, yeah. I was like, I'm sorry. They weren't coming up, uh, us going to the Underdog studio. Walking upstairs, just trying to get you out of here one song. Bro, man. When Niggas had Mitch, Massachusetts and backwards. Congress, do you want to reject that? Kat Daddy just came out. It was on the radio. And James would be like, take up here. James would be like, where the dance is Niggas? I'm sure I'll just point out when Niggas do it. And Niggas do exactly who I was talking about. Yeah. Yeah. The Kat Daddy. Kat Daddy. It was much by. Right. Young Niggas being cool and fly. Yeah. And, and making a great name for yourselves. Thank you. A great name. I always left a, like a great impression. Yes. Everywhere you guys have ever been. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, nobody's ever been like, oh, those Niggas. No. I've never been those Niggas. You know what I'm saying? You guys have always been like, man, you know, David Eris. Yeah. Oh, this is my guys. Yeah. Oh, this is my little cousin. Right. For Robbie Jones, y'all, y'all actual family. Yeah. And we hoop, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Guys who have, everyone is always championing y'all. And that should be saluted. Yeah. Because a lot of people don't know how to keep their names in good standing. Yeah. Appreciate it. And y'all have done an amazing job of that being. Yeah. Always good vibes. Yeah. We want for y'all. We want to stay out the mud. Everything for y'all. Keep my name out the mud. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's gricky. Well, let's talk this music thing, man. Let's go back to the beginning. Let's go back to the sack town, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's listen. Sack town. Sack town. Woo. Yeah. Sack town. Yeah. Well, it makes two brothers decide that they want to prove that they want to pursue music and not just pursue music, but pursue it together. Where does this begin? You want to cut off? I guess when you go all the way to the top of the story, my mom, she was always a singer and musician. My dad's on a sports side. So we always had to kind of do something in the crib, like always had to sing or, you know, just be doing something like that was what's happening. Yeah. Was there any time? Yeah. Yeah. For real. Anybody come over to the house, dad, be like, get him sing for him. Yeah. Yeah. Be like, I'm going to be a million. I'm going to be a million with this story. Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. I was wearing a hat and I was like, he was only six. He was like, school. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Get out. Man. So, you know, we had to always had to perform and sing and stuff like that. But then kind of growing into who? Right. Yeah. In a serious manner. So I was just like, well, I mean, I'm athletic and shit, but he loves that. Yeah. And I'm just starting making beats. Like, we can't graze over that, right? No way. Because I've had NBA basketball, but this is real. And y'all know how I feel about sports. And I don't be saying just random shit when he comes to that. Right. I'm going to NBA niggas be like, so you know, there is his deriest Logan. I'm like, okay. You know what I'm saying? Like the legend of. Yeah. Niggas is like, yeah, no, no, no, no, no. We went to play AAU with deriest Logan. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I'm like, wait, wait, are you seven foot niggas when found him? Yeah. I used to play for a EBO, you know, EBO was based out of Fresno. I used to play with the Lopez twin, Quincy Point Dexter. So I used to go down there every weekend, go hoot with them. And I was at one time, sophomore year, I was like ranked number five, playing gardener nation during that time. That's when hoop was everything. Yeah. I didn't care anything about music, only for the girls. But everything was hoop, working out three times a day. My dad on our ass, all my ass, torching me. You know how this is just like, who? Sleep, get back to hoopin. Yeah. And that's all I knew, working out didn't have no summers. But when it came to hoop, I was cooking niggas. And then at one point, I just honestly fell out of love with it. And I knew I knew I knew we could always do music. And I was like, you know what? I'll give it a try. Why not? So one day you literally was just like, I'm done. I'm done hooping. I kept tweaking my ankle. And I was just like, man, every time I got all these damn ankle braises, this ain't working. Yeah. Got me on my belt. I got it. It's not in a step curry. It's not in a step curry. Speaking of step curry, we played on the same all American team, a D2Camp. When he was becoming step curry. Yeah. Blasher in the past. But good old days, played with Titus and Timothy. They played with a choir leader, San Diego State. all of them was on my bros, my hoop, Kevin Galloway, Eugene Crockett, all my dogs. Yeah. And then one, yeah, I was hoopy hooping. But then I was just like, he was making, that's when he started making beats on fruity loops. Yeah. And then he'd be like, bro, during the MySpace era, he would like, I just posted this beat up there and I'll listen to it and I'd be like, oh, it's just slap. So he just remixing all type of beats. He figured out what worked for him and then when I came home, we just started making songs. Yeah. We just started recording. Nick has discovered auto tune. And he was like, yeah, let's make it song. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was in there all night. What are you recording the vocals at? So my dad, he bought a set up because he was like, basically like, you're not going to be doing nothing around here, but bro doing hoop in a serious way. So I'm going to get you this equipment. And I had to figure how to open and run pro tools by myself or a power is going to take auto equipment back. Oh, shit. I'm getting knocked out. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, shit. You know, he was almost taking the shit back. Yeah. So for sure, the whole area, yeah, he was everybody there. Yeah. Yeah. Big dog. Kid knocked out like your son. Yeah. For sure. I love it. What's that's going to do? Sounds like he made me mad. Yeah. But yeah, so I had to like kind of like this dickhead. I was just trying to get it to operate. You know what I mean? Yeah. And once I got it going, we started figuring it out and different OGs who was in musical with pop by and being like, oh, shit. Like, I got something going on. We're just going a little advice. Yeah. How to, how to arm a track and how to move everything, all that stuff. So once we kind of got a little flow and bro would come home from college and we would just cook and a Victoria Monet, she would, it would be us three cooking up at the house. No way. Yeah. You know, she's exact. No, I didn't know all three of them was sitting in the room cooking. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So crazy. We would just cook up and then we would make songs and print them on the CD and then take them to the like my grandma lived across street from my dad. So he, he bought a house for her to keep like family close to her. But when she moved back east, we made the studio house because he and he rented out the room. Okay. Yeah. Okay. We rented out the rooms and then we had the master and we put the studio in there. And how are you at this point? Yeah, still teenagers. Yeah. But obviously it's right across the street from the house. Yeah. Yeah. He got the cameras right. Yeah. You can't do shit. We used to tell the sneaking girls. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, D-Bo. Yeah. Yeah. Get them out my house. Right. Right. But dad, you don't even look at them out my house. We can see them walking across the street. So we know. We know. We know. We know. We got come here. We got to get out of here. We're the other street. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's how. Yeah. That's all the kind of the basis of it. Throughout high school from that point. Are you you're barely in high school. You're what sophomore junior. Yeah. He's in eighth grade. I'm a junior senior in high school. Is pops high when you stop hoping. Because you said y'all doing three of days. Yeah. That mean that he didn't dedicate his life to it as well. But you know around that time, I'm just like, all right, bro. I want to start doing my own thing. Yeah. You know, start working my own coaches. So you know, just start like figuring out what worked for me. But he was hot for a little bit. But then when he was hearing the music. Mm-hmm. Even though, you know, we think we make his lives back then. And to. For him. Yeah. Wasn't it. I've been there. Yeah. Yeah. We are. Yeah. Hey, well, we felt like we were. Oh, yeah. I thought I was getting a pop. Yeah. We did. Oh, man. I was like, I'm killing everything. I'll tell you what. Yeah. Yeah. I played. The older, older, the older producers that was there was producers. And like in the business that I was signed to, I played it. And they put it. Listen to how you sign up. All right. I'll say what? Yeah, it's trash. What? This beat. Right. This beat. Hard. This is a hit. Yeah. Fans. I have my PV out of PV keyboard. The DPM4. Yeah. And I was shut up. And all we really had nine tracks to make the beat. Yeah. Sometimes I would have to layer two instruments on one track. Like it was just. It was a big You told me like for you know for different artists up there in the whole thing. I was while bro is in college I was making money. We're guys though. Yeah, okay. I was making I was already selling beats making money. Yes How much you selling the beast? I don't know. I don't know honey. Yeah, there's a dick of walk with the beat like no publishing need like it was buying the whole beat I didn't yeah, yeah, I didn't even understand that part of course Yeah, it was independent anyway. Yeah, just put it out Yeah, and that's your friend came out anyway, right? But She I knew it was I knew it was something when I bought my mom a washer and dryer Hmm, I was like oh Yeah, I'm having my way So we're bro with come back yeah, we when bro would come back and we we'd lock in and we just start we just created a Flow like just we just worked together really well. I mean, we brothers of course, you know, you have a occasional once a year Flight or some shit like no But it's always progressive to make this song better. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, but I mean Bob just fight up a basketball. We don't fight over Everything else we cool about basketball. We really want to kill you You got to learn what that is You're the first playing basketball with these two niggas. I'm like So they are they brother Like the same blood Yeah I can see Bob talking shit I love it Crazy So you sell them you you in the hood slanging slanging beats Serve of the base serving and how to me in my homies. We had a little rock group. It's called team hypha Mom And we was uh, we was recording my boy Dre Marcus Doug Eric my nigga E and we would just record like nobody we would just imitate like all the hypha movie shield some rap shit And then but when broke hey like that's what it was like doing more singing stuff. Yeah, and my mom will be like over it like Yeah, definitely let us try again. Yeah, try and do less of this listen to more of this Got you like you know, yeah, so then my dad and a friend uh, he used to do like community service hours for like His youth program or whatever and this guy named jammer and new fly styles Hmm, and yeah, he introduced us to fly styles And during that time Robbie introduces to Andre Mary Got you, okay, so yeah, I know nothing that got good hook. Yeah, I think you shoot that hell off the ball It's man So during that time while we trying to figure out we think we make it slaps Robbie like he heard he like I'm gonna sit into my friend Andre Mary. We don't know nothing about the business. Yeah, we talked to Andre I'll be already in LA already already Once we heal once we have yeah, yeah, yeah I get on the phone. He like yeah The music's not good I'm gonna keep it real which uh, yeah, I need to keep on just keep on keep on saying this stuff But and out there. Yeah, not what you think like you know, we was feeling like we we got a record We don't know. Yeah, yeah, I mean I know and then I'm just like taking that competitive nature from sports and me I'm like I'm about to show them yeah, and then During that whole during that time we met fly. Yeah, we met fly came down here Fly he was working with us here during that time Well, the first minute around Or dude, yeah, it's working on brown because we did the song called Michael and me Jesus, gross. That's where it is. Okay, we did the song called Michael and me and it was like we love Michael Jackson So we did this tribute kind of like everybody got a little Michael and then like you know saying like We was doing it for Michael or that was the idea to fly was trying to run with you know and then Chris heard it and was like Let me record it and do it as a tribute and that's how we met Chris. That's how that all happened. Mm-hmm. I was like 16 Yeah, well, we met Chris at a Grammy party. Yeah, that's why though. Yeah, that's initially why yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah And um, and then you know all the other stuff happening and just it kind of changed the narrative on but we knew at that point Like we need to be here. Yeah, yeah, it's like we yeah, yeah, so we went back that last time Me we ran away We packed up the equipment How am I gonna tell you how am I my dad? Yeah, I was going. No, yeah, we got literally right away. Yeah, huh? You was grown I was growing. I was 20 you on 20 I read way. Yeah, I was out high my little four focus. We packed up all our stuff in the back waited possibly Whoa the Yeah, I never told me that me neither. Nobody knows all these years. I know y'all. Yeah. You were running away this whole time. Yeah. Wow. You really is from nothing counting. You have a real last thing. You have a real last thing. I think you had me grow with you, man. I need y'all here on my right. That right there makes it so much better. Wow. Yeah. Y'all have no choice. We didn't have no choice. I had no choice. Who was it going back? So what's that called? I was dodging the Ignor Nation. Ignor, I wasn't ready yet because I'm just like trying to figure out. You guys big bro like brother. I had to do what I had to do. Yeah. I was the one that was like bro we need to go. And I was like we got to figure this out. He just like let's go and I'm like you know it. Let's just go. Let's load up. We out. I had been to LA because you know the camps and pooping so I was aware but I know we knew fly and I knew some of his other homies so I was trying to figure out the living. Meanwhile he just think about music. I'm like we got to figure this out. What we're going to say. Yeah. So he was living out the focus for a good two or three months. Mm-hmm. Two three months. Yeah. Living out the focus trying to figure out where we're going to stay and trying to get to the studio. When we first pulled up the LA coming from sack where we go. We're sick. Yeah. We're sick. Yeah. We're sick. Bro we pulled up the centers go. At the time of like we got to meet pot. We're here to meet polo. Yeah. I never met him before. No. But you're still got brains there. Yeah. So you're getting to the time time. Oh God. Yeah. Oh what happened. Pull comes out. He like. You're talented but this ain't how you do this. Hey how you do this bro. He's like. You don't know y'all. We like now. We just show on the plants and music he like. Ah. He is. But he laughing. He was laughing. He like. They all go. And then we just leaving in. What like a month later we ended up staying in a fly friend. A dentist. Yeah. He let us stay there. And then we just leaving them, like a month later, we ended up staying at Fly's friend Dennis. He let us stay there. He was playing right there, like half the rent as long as we could. And then we left there and started living with Fly. And Fly had his camp boat there. It was us, T fly, and notch, and Rabe, recipes, recipes. So he was like, you know, do his executive thing, I got these producers and trying to get records off and stuff. And we was in that mix. But it just, it didn't work out. Oh, some of the Prince Charles is over there too. And crazy. Yeah, crazy. We were down. Yeah, crazy. And then it just didn't work out all the way around. But that was like the basis of when we first got here, we just do records, record, record. And notch, when we got up the freeway, notch was the one, we didn't know where it was going. We called it notch and he was like, pull it through the studio. Then we met the new boys. And that's how we got our first placement. We're cadding. No, no, with the, it's called New Girl. Okay. And we got a feature on there too, which the vocals are terrible. Horrible. And you're off fresh in the city. Oh, yeah, sure. We, they was the new boys was recording in Gardina. Gardina, yeah. So we come and check straight to the hood, going in and recording the garage. Mm-hmm. And notch in there. Yeah. And I was like, come on over here, you know, I'm notch. Yeah. So that's how we got our first check we got behind McDonald's on a 15 hundred. Yep. 15 hundred. Splitted. Because though we were rich. Were you got paid behind the McDonald's? Yeah. We signed up. We got producer because we had to sign your producers that had McDonald's. Yeah. That made Donald's. Okay. All right. I made Donald's. Yeah. Did you already read it or did you just take it? Yeah. He was like, we was at McDonald's all the time. He was already hungry. Oh, it's already hungry. That's a great way to do that. I'm like, I got my witchy. Exactly. I need a max off. I need a max off, man. We're going large today. I want the big drink. You can come. You got a 15 hundred out of the burger. You see the lobster pepper. See this check. Check fry and drink. Right. Wow. Look at me. You mentioned question just as as creatives, right? Right? Because, uh, shout out to Andre Mary. Hit it. Definitely hit you with the, you know what I'm saying? Right. You're not there yet. You ain't got it. At what point did you feel like? Because now before you get to this placement, at what point do you feel like you're competitive? Like you have something that that now is on the level of what you hear on the streets. For me, it was a micro record, how much swell it was like fly was trying to take it to A con and it was like conversations that we were a part of now that we'd never been a part of. Right. So that's what had the battery pack in me. Or I'm like, we need to, that's what we need. We need to micro record. Yeah. We need to get out. We need to be here. Right. We in the game now. Okay. So at that point, you felt like y'all had something. Yeah. Yeah. And then we're going back and forth with Jerry during his time too. So we started saying this stuff. It was like, it's fire. It was getting better. Did that record ever place? No. The micro mirror. No, the Chris is going to cut it at the time. And then all of that's the rear-re stuff happened. So it just like the whole train just derailed. It was like, yeah, I never try to put on nobody else. No. Okay. We just came back and just kept creating it. But that song created the conversation. Pretty good. Pretty good to get your own ones. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Okay. So cadet is next. Cadet is next before. So it's new girl than cadet. Yeah. And then, uh, man, we get silent university. We get some job-produced cadet. No, Jayhawk produced it. But I kind of like teased you out, if you will. You know what I'm saying? I did all the edits and recorded it and moving, arranging, and doing all that stuff. So it was pretty like, you know what I'm saying? Like put this in the beat. Yeah. Additional production. Additional production. And then we was all, we was actually in the rejects. In the rejects, yeah. So it was like, we was going everywhere in the van. Seven rejects popping out back, rescanees, Mitch Masjordins. Dancing. Dancing. Everywhere we went. And we really couldn't do much at the house, throwing up like as far as like party. And so we, that's why we are how we are. You think his job was witness? No. No. We got it. No, it's Christian Christian things. But politicians didn't play that shit. He's rude. Milletent time. Milletent time. But he was like that for everybody in the neighborhood. Like, I respect for your dad. Yeah. But we just live with him. So we, we, that's our dad. So like, no, you're not doing that. But he kept your block straight. Yeah. Yeah. No, I get it. I get it. So when y'all get out here, now your niggas become rejects. Right. Okay. All right. Yeah. Yeah. And you're dancing with your pants on backwards. Yeah. Yeah. I know pops probably saw the video like man. It was too late though. I see them. I was just right. Yeah. Too. Yeah. Whoopin' them. Oh, yeah. I'm chicken. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to be like, no, you can't come right here. I'm seeing y'all can't come right here. Right. Y'all has got to go now. So no trouble. Yeah. That was a different era. Yeah. But once we got past that, we had got signed with Universal, Ron Doerr, with Kevahaw. Mm-hmm. Was over there. And he put us with Damon. That was the best thing they did was put us over there. We're doing that. Mm-hmm. So Kevahaw did just introduce you out of that. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. The Dilly song was horrible. Terrible. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How many songs? 300%. 300% songs? So three songs. Three, three, four. That's 100% songs. How much y'all got? Let's just talk about it. 20k. 20 minutes. Woo. Two. Two for one. Yeah. 20 minutes to the both of y'all. Yeah. To split. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he's got to put us on that back to make that was. We saw that when that bird came all was sitting on that back. Kevahaw was so much younger than time. And he's the only thing good there. Kevahaw was sitting there like Druski. Yeah. Sign right here. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. 300. Yeah. Yeah. That was tough. That's tough. Yeah. That's tough. I mean, I have a 500 with deal. I mean, we got out of that thing. No, no, good. This is for sure. Of course you did. But it was just, but you know what? I think, I think, I mean, Jay, I've talked about this before. Like, yeah, it sounds like a bad deal. But you ultimately were betting on yourself. Yeah. And whatever by any means necessary, you had to eat and you had to survive and you were just going to charge it to the fruit loops in the microphone. Because the other question is, would you sign it again if you were in that same position? Absolutely. Yeah. If you knew that this, it was going to lead to you guys being here, the success that you had. Right. And that's what you got to ask yourself. I think, you know, a lot of times people, I'm, I'm sorry, 2020, obviously, but you have so many people who, I'm trying to figure the best way I could say it to the fuck it. You got people who are outsmarting themselves. They're just two business savvy in the beginning. Because what people don't understand is, in the beginning, you really don't have any bargaining chips. Right. You don't have any leverage. And the leverage you think you have is really in your head. Right. Unless you got some crazy bidding war, everybody's chasing you down. Yeah. And you can leverage that into the best deal possible. But when you are trying to eat, yes, sir. Yeah. And you don't want to sell dope no more. Talk about it. You don't want to live in your daddy house, no, you don't want to be so many different variables that come into play that people just tend to overlook. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like yes. Because the objective is to one day be able to laugh about it. Right. Right. For sure. Not. But the only way to be able to laugh about it is to be successful. Right. Most of the people that I see complaining. Hmm. Don't you do it? Don't you do it? Don't you do it? Fuck, I'm not in success. Right. You've only done it once. And you got a bad deal with that one time that you got you was cracking. Right. I get it. I get I get the frustration. Right. I get the frustration. But if you've done it over and over and over and you've gotten to this place, this wonderful place called renegotiation. Right. You laugh at that shit. For sure. We always we definitely got the last laugh. The last laugh for sure. Yeah. I got 20. I got 35. Really? I got 25. And I got a little 10 on top later. Right. But it really only got 35. It got 35 all in of the 75. I was supposed to get y'all got your whole 20. He was supposed to 20 and y'all got 20. Yeah. It was supposed to be more attached like guys. We progressed to the deal. Yeah. But it just ended up us getting out of it. Me too. Not having. Yeah. Me too. Yeah. Same thing. For you. For you short money deal. They gave tank the big money. It didn't put him in the headlock. I got that hot 175. Yeah. Yeah. The long way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was. It was prison. It was all jail. All jail. All the violence. There are no bad deals, man. Yeah. Like I just I just feel like you have to do what you have to do. Like I've been in situations where I was owed a lot of money. Right. Lot of money. And it was either fight that or settle for less and get back cracking. Right. Cracking is the remedy. Mm-hmm. Cracking is the remedy. So let's get to cracking. Get the cracking. Let's get to cracking. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Which crack? I got one. It's a couple episodes. Yeah. We like that. Come on. Let's start. Let's go. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Y'all. Y'all. Y'all. He nothing now. I've ever ever. After the. What's y'all? What's y'all first record that you're like? Okay. We can breathe a little bit for y'all. And you y'all mine. I would say that those are carrots. Streets for sure. Streets. Streets. Streets. And he's greets. And how long? Mm-hmm. So these people can know how long has y'all had y'all been in the streets before streets got cracking? How long y'all been in LA figuring it out? You know, as I would call it, the hamster wheel. The hamster wheel. The hamster wheel. Before that record does what it does for y'all. How many years had it been? Well, this is year 17. So that was what year? What? 13? Yeah. Yeah. 13 years. Y'all have its survivance. In LA. 13 years. 13 years. Living out the whip. Make it slabs. Niggas stealing our drip. We doing our type of stuff. Talk your shit. Talk your shit. Talk your shit. Talk your shit. We didn't get it here. We didn't get a lot of niggas. A lot of drip. And it's fine. We got a lot of sons. It's okay. We got a lot of stuff. It's fine. We got a lot of different. Hey, we gotta come more lessons for y'all. You gotta come back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But this time we get in our leg back. Yeah. Anyways, you feel that doja cast street record. Yeah. It took off like a man. What's the hot fire? What's crazy? Is that record was out? Yeah. For like a year before it cracked off. Oh, wow. Like the internet just on some leak type shit art on the album. On the album. Okay. Just erupted late. Mm-hmm. Like, perfect. Because that's not a normal doja cat record either though. Yeah. It's a very black doja. Mm-hmm. Hey, doja. I like black doja. Mm-hmm. You should do more of those records. Mm-hmm. And I'm a huge fan. So just so you know, I'm looking to camera. I'm a huge fan. I love doja cat. I think doja cat is one of the most talented artists. Amazing. She's a rock. In this shit. Not female. Not male. No, no, no. Artist. Period. She is amazing. Yeah. She's different. Yeah. And I love her on that R&B film. Yeah. She's good. Yeah. Come on. Hot pink. Hot pink. Hot pink. Love that money. Love that. So when you get a record like that, what are the conversations after that for y'all? I feel like everybody. That was the first door I really kicked out like boom. Oh, y'all about to have what can y'all do it again? That's what it was. Yeah. Is this look? It wasn't said, but it was like, okay, y'all got one. But can y'all do it again? Mm-hmm. And then after that, we got iffy with Chris Brown. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And iffy, that was a great error. That was a great error. That was doing COVID. We was hooping with bro every day. Yeah. Yeah. You know, we've been on Chris throughout the years forever, but we really locked in with bro because it wasn't nothing else to do. Yeah. Yeah. Hope. Who make music make this love? Yeah. So we'd low key at an advantage because it wasn't other producers that allowed us. Half-court, quarter-court. Yeah. Quarter-court, sleep-re-slippery. We have to do full half-court. Full half-court. Oh, full half-court. Yes. But yeah, iffy was amazing. Yeah. Bro just kept playing it every day. He was playing it every day. I'll show it to you. I'll show it to you. I'll show it to you. Go with this one. Yeah. Who's like? It's great in concert too. Right. Yeah. It's great in show. Because you know he cuts so many records, so you'd be like, you never know. Yeah. Yeah. And COVID really has stuff, so I'm just like, you still going to put that in. He's like, no, no, no, we good. I'm like, okay. You know we're going to send this to Dosey. Yeah. Got a baby now. You got to use them. You got to call it. Right. Right. Right. We're on here. We can put her on here. Remember that iffy days. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Actually put up a couple times. We was all who been. Yeah. Yeah. Went out there and musted some people around. Yeah. He did. You know, strong man basketball. What's the time? I remember that. I remember that. Definitely. That's though. So that now it's starting now it's going up. Yeah. And now we did the Indicillian hate me tomorrow too. Yeah. So we was you know, not you didn't production it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No more fast food parking lot. No more fast food. Yeah. No, let me get you. Yeah. You gotta leave you have your own lawyer now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to have a meeting in Nashville now. Yeah. Nick still got to eat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We believe he's my question. If you if you talk to your dad yet. I was at that point. Had you? No, we had talked about we already we had it. Yeah. It was good. In 13 years. The doctor the car. Oh, you answered the phone right now. The call is 13 years. It's crazy. He called you. What? What in the stranger days? This is crazy. Now yeah, we we had talked about around the cadetty area. Like, right. We really started building our relationship again. In a new way. It's like not so that you know, baby boys. But as you're grown in. Now, you know, surviving and pushing to thrive in the music industry. It is, you know, being pop is overproductive and then it's like, all right, we got it that way. Well, yeah. And I think and I think, you know, pops can respect that part of it. Yeah. You know, you you boys, you know, making your own way to become mint. Right. You know what I mean? And taking that leap of faith. Yeah. And so I can imagine him, you know, of course one to protect you guys and and and be there for you. But I can imagine, you know, he's proud as well because y'all, y'all in the belly, belly the beast. Right. Definitely. You know what I'm saying? And you live in and you ain't you ain't backing down from no phase. You like you. We out here. Yeah. Yeah. Did y'all ever move back? Not at any point. Yeah. Yeah. Stayed the whole time. Stay the whole time. That's because that's the tale of take break. Yeah. I respect that, bro. Yeah. Sure. It's been a couple of moments where it's like, I guess we're about to go back. Here we come. Hey, hey, Zach here we come. And then a blessing come through our place will come through every time. I'm just looking like man. I'm going to get through this. No bread right now. I have no cheese. Yeah. Jesus bandit. Within 24 hours. Bless got that call. Let's pull up to the studio and cook every time about the leave. It's like, I know. God. He's watching. Yeah. Make sure that we good. Yeah. Because you have little work. Yeah. That's one thing too, right? Like, I've seen so many people come here. Obviously, I'm a transplant. I think it's a transplant. We none of us are from here. Right. But I've seen so many people come here and get just so caught up in the life. Right. The lifestyle of LA. Right. And listen, y'all some party in it because I just go y'all who y'all are, but y'all never got caught up in it to the point where y'all didn't do the work. Yeah. For sure. Right. And there's, you know, because I think for me, I've always just did the work. I never really party. I've never really my thing. Right. Because I just knew me, right? Like, I'm just like, I got to focus on this. Right. But watching y'all as a big brother watching y'all like, yo, they can still like, y'all can attest to this. I've never pulled y'all to the side. So yo, y'all doing too much. Right. Because I just like, no, they still do the work. I've only done that to people when they don't know who they are who didn't do the work. That's you're supposed to do. And y'all done the work. And that's why you said, you'd be flat on your back. Fucked up. Think you going back home. And then 24 hours later, either y'all got a check coming through, y'all got another opportunity coming through. Because y'all have been a reliable call. We've called y'all multiple times from the TGT project, TGT project. Thanks project. Me as an artist, like, we've always been like, I got to call the guy. Right. I got to call the guy. Yeah. Because y'all going to show up and do the work. And do y'all think, and it's going to be great work. You know what I mean? So salute to y'all for that. Thank you. And y'all have had a good time. It's been fun for me to watch. Man, from the outside, I used to get him y'all into something good as time. Yeah. I feel like the party and just it rose up into the music. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It feels good music. Yeah. It feels it. Yeah. I like hanging out with you guys. Yeah. That's a good. Honestly, tank, you literally like the first person out. You are the first person to be like, when we was in the studio working at Damon Harvey studio, he was like first person to be like validated. It's be like, no, these niggas are dope. Nobody was shining here. As you know how it is during that time, it was y'all who was all at the studio during that time. I was upstairs. I don't know. It's um, um, poppano, um, Marsur, that whole just that whole, uh, the, uh, the track record on, on, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So y'all like, when y'all kind of said this like, I think it's dope. It's cold. Yeah. Like then Harvey and everybody else start like listening from a different kind of, it was different looking the building. Yeah. Yeah. Because I was like, that was like, music school, Motel for us. Right. You know what I mean? We was learning. That's, that was a good idea or two. That's where you get residuals from facts that house. Right. That right. Without us. What you learn there. Yeah. When we the knowledge we got. Yeah. Yeah. Cause yeah, I was the young dancing niggas at that point. Right. Like, yeah, that's, that's what y'all vibe was. And y'all were a good time. The music hadn't fully got there yet. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I was like, um, like, sit, sit back and watch. We like, damn. This song ain't good either. You like, I'll go deep. You like, give me the files. Come back and be a record in real life. Yeah. Okay. Now you got, you guys were, you guys were privy to do some really 10 year people in the business who actually cared about y'all too though. You know, for Damon Harvey, us to, you know what I mean? Like, yeah. That was like a general consensus around there. Like, no, no, no, these are our little brothers. Yeah. Yeah. Like all of us took a liking to y'all to the point of being like, no, no, no, no, we have to pour into them. Yeah. And we just glad to share work. That was really cool though. To have those conversations right to, to be sitting with, you know, LA Reed and, you know, he's playing me Jayda and then he plays y'all record and as he's like, oh, yeah, see guys. I'm digging my. Right. Right. You put you on. Right. LA. Right. But now that those moments feel good though. Honestly, and seriously, like those moments feel good to know that we saw it. Right. We saw it. We, you know, and we believed early. And facts definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Job. Part though. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think you guys are like, you know, just so everybody can, you know, understand the type of producers that you are. You know, you guys are like, you guys do anything. Yeah. Literally. Literally. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like I've called y'all and asked y'all for some outlandish shit. And Jay was like, what are you doing? I'm just hanging out with my young guys. Doing young feels. I'm not always the voice. I like to have. No, I don't. I get on my turn up and I need that fix. Yeah. I hit the black tuxedo text chain. Yep. Turn me off. Yeah. I still remember the shots. I don't know if y'all know what really happened. I don't know. Exactly. No. No. No. No. No. No. TGT happened. What? So that's what ultimately we were asked. Yes. Very, very politely and nicely from the label to get away from shots fired. Oh. So they killed the record. Right. Because they had they spent a lot of money for this TGT album and they needed tank to get in TGT mode. And if you're smart, they would use the momentum for a brand. But at that time, it was a different time. Yeah. Yeah. Like you were as an artist, you hyper focused on the thing on the task at hand. Right. And and it was nobody was really having two conversations at the same time. And shots fired wouldn't attach to anything. Exactly. Remember tanked and having an album. It wasn't. Yeah. You know, it was like, you know, yeah, it was. Yeah. It was an illustration. Right. Yeah. We brought my movements. Woo. I listen. Brown. Let me say, hey, I need you to perform with me at the at the power of this. I said, do what? That one. The most staged with the brown. Yeah. With the brown. What? With Chris. Yeah. Hey. Yeah. You might have the brain. We went to the club after part of that night. He was like, just let's do shots fired in the club. I said, absolutely. Right. Ready. We found up in the club. Yeah. I'm on LA radio going crazy. It really was a boy like it really was no for sure. It was. And it was a really it was a tough spot for us. Yeah. Just from a business standpoint. Yeah. It was a tough spot because tank had already signed on right and gave his word to. Yeah. The group. Right. And to the label that he was also, you know, both deals were there. Yeah. Yeah. Tank Solo deal was there. TGT was there. And it was like, we kind of got to get into it because this album got to get turned in. Yeah. That was part of those sessions. Obviously, we mentioned it. Lesson of love. And what's the second one? That. Don't take it wrong. Take it wrong. Take it wrong. Take it wrong. Take it wrong. But so it was one of those things where, you know, him and I had to sit out. Now I'm like, Chief. You know, hurt me. I was supposed to be our first one. That was what it's a lot involved. Those are the tough those are the tough parts of this business. Bro. I was still he make down on all the shoulders. Shit. Shit. Shit. It's all this bro. I'm the part of our argument. Our niggas is here. It was a 2013-2014. That was well. That was well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. But it's, you know, I needed that song too. Yeah. It was going. It was like crazy. It was crack. Hey. I remember the video shoot. The video shoot was crazy. It was crazy. It was crazy. I'm thinking, you know, pull up, pull up from in the bro, pull up Chris and just, you know, we're just going to go to the part of the video. You just, and I think it said, I have other plans. Light the bar. That's crazy. What do you do? I think I jumped on that bar. I remember. I said, he'll be rich. Bro, he started, he started transforming. He's, I said, oh yeah. He transformed like he did. I said, we're going to be rich. Rich. Right. It did. We did the two shot. I said, oh my god. Hey, listen, I can always count on you guys to, to help me find something different that I can do. Right. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You guys are, you guys are great at producing and writing in a space to where it's like, okay, but you can read. You don't need to say that. Yeah. But you can say this. Yeah. Yeah. You don't need to feel like that, but it can feel like this. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. And it's like a lot of times, I'm listening to y'all. As long as I've been doing it, I'm like, yeah, okay. Koo koo koo. You'll be vocal producing me. Big bro. I'm trying to take that down. Stay right in, say right in here with it. Right. Got you. And that's the cool part about all of this. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? As you guys have probably learned some stuff from us, we've learned some stuff from y'all. For sure. For sure. The fact that you even want to, the fact that you even trust us to be like, I'm listening to what you say. It means the world already already. Already. Because we in the studio, like I said before, it's trying to just get a yes from y'all. Yeah. Yeah. That should mean a lot. Yeah. Yes. It's like a month. Because residuals. Yeah. That's your question. Do you remember when you played residuals at my house in the studio? Yeah. And I said, what in the book was Chris Onis? Yeah. Chris Persian, the first one was where you heard. Yeah. Yeah. The first one was where. Yeah. Was it? Was it the way it was the way? Nope. It was good. It was good because you was like, he was you unsure. Yeah. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. I'm not saying it. The album had dropped out of the drop. And it wasn't on the album. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, it was supposed to be on a breezy album. Exactly. That's what started the breezy album was residuals. Residuals and, uh, Hey, me tomorrow. Yeah. So how old was that song? We did it when, right at that time, I run a time, the breezy album came out. Huh? That, no, he was saying, when do we actually made it? Yeah. 2018. When did breezy album come out? The breezy album. It was like 2022? It was like early in the year. It was like we made it like February or something like that. February. But it was, but I don't came out later that year. I'm saying when we actually make the song was 2019, when we actually like created the song, but we'd been played it for bro and then bro cut it. He cut it. Yeah. Initially. 22. Yeah. 22. Yeah. And then the song doesn't come out to what 24? Yeah. So residuals five years old when it comes out. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I heard it. I heard a half a listen. Now, remember him telling me that he was like, nigga, I said breezy. What's he? No, no, bro. That's going to the bonus. That's good. That's going. That's going to be. Yeah. We're going to ain't no. If it wasn't, man. He was just trying to figure out how to get out. I knew the whole line. That's how you. That's how damn right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. All of the crazy breezes say I'm like, I mean, I don't really just find it. You were there. Who do you already? It's fine. That one. I'm like, I'm sitting on top of that. That's working. I like. Right. We're to the. You talk about a song. I won it. Man. Shhhh man. It was really. That's what. Okay. So this is all these challenges. This is songs you want. I wanted that song. Bad. That makes sense. I wanted that song. You all played that song. I said, so he's not used to. He's kind of using double check. That's about the girl. So y'all, yeah, how far did y'all go? I will do you know. Will she your girl girl? Right. Or I had breEDED me. That's it. Man. Residual's man. Right. Man. What's going on? Oh, you have us and I put. Yeah. You should. Right. You should. You should. You should. You could. I did it for you. You should. I did for you. Yeah, I'm so happy. I'm so happy. I'm so happy. I'm so happy. I'm so happy. I'm so happy. I wanted that one. Man. He was originally for usher. The idea was for usher. I was like, man, how could we do something that's close to any of the songs on confessions? And I was just saying the same week we did if he and Residio was the same week. Got you. I think it was just on like back to the Kila was to Kila. Oh, man. Oh, man. To Kila. To Kila. To Kila. To Kila. Kila. To Kila. Listen. What a song. Like what a song. Like song so powerful that it didn't need nothing. It didn't need no campaign. Right. It didn't need no budget. It didn't need nothing. Team Breezy just just for him to sing it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They know they know they know they know they know. They know. I love. They know. I love. I love you. As a member of team Breezy. Yeah. How many teams are you a part of? Well. I'm in the beehive. It's okay. And I'm team Breezy. Okay. I'm team Breezy. I'm in my own. I'm a soldier in my own. There you go. My own fan base as well. You're a fan of you. You're a fan of me. Oh, see a tank. It's a tank. I was with over. There's London. I got a video to it. I think I might have posted when he was singing the song. I was just like. Like. I feel I felt like Breezy hadn't had that moment yet. That just talked about that. What are you talking about? We talked about that. That literally just stand there. Flatfoot. Flatfoot it. Get to it. And and let them let them just look at you. Right. Yeah. Like when I was standing in London and watching, I made this. My God. Yeah. It is a wrap. Yeah. Cause that takes you to a different place, especially as a performing artist. Yeah. You know who's known to move and dance a lot. Yeah. When you're still. But you got to have a certain record that you can get that off. Right. The microphone came down with all the glittering. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm just. It's that the biggest screen. And I'm and people are just. They're just that. Right. They have a moment like you're an off. Chris. All the time. Right. He's always doing something amazing. Right. But for him to just stand there. And them to have be able to have one focus point. Nobody else on stage. Nothing else. That's not just him and people were like. It was crazy. Crazy. How does it feel as a creative of someone who's that was a part of that record. To watch that. That's an amazing one. They're one in New York. The one in New York and the one in. And so far. So far. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah. When you. As soon as you see it. It's like Michael putting the glove on. Oh, I know it's about to come on. Right. About to come on right now. You might got the phone set. I got my phone out of it. Man, I'm looking like this. Just looking around like all these people, it's crazy. We made this song in a little studio room. Everybody got that motherfucking out. Right. In a stadium. In stadium. I was like, it also makes me want to take everything like a little bit more serious too. Like what we talk about in these records. And like in the future, because it's like, they it's really touching people. Like it's, yeah. It's in their homes and their phones and they, you know. Right. A part of their lives, all of our lives. You're like, never know what record is going to be that. Mm-hmm. Like, especially right now. There's the fire right now. Oh, fire. Yeah, we're still having a moment. Where's the, where's the residuals too? So, I'll be where everybody's here. I'm not. I'll see you in a couple of records. Yeah, I got a couple of records on me. I got a couple of records on me. What's it, what's the, like, what's the line of right now? Like of the records that you got coming, you got out. The news. We just did three on B2K's album. Yeah. We love that. We have the first single in there. Gave them boys some heat. Yeah, I love working with those guys. Yeah. Great image. Because when we, when we was working with them, it was like, bro, we was letting them know like, bro, it was Michael Jackson and the wine is and then y'all growing up like, because our dad wouldn't let us go and go back to the pops. He wouldn't let us. That's a wild combo. Bro, Michael Jackson, the wine is in B2K. Yeah. And till like, in P3, players came out that we was just like, whatever on there at that point, because he didn't know he couldn't monitor it. But before we got to watch a one of those six in park, listen to the wine and and Lou DeVangel. Oh, God. I hate that. He said, oh, God. Every time I hear, I love Lou DeVangel. I love Lou DeVangel. I love Lou DeVangel. No, no, no, no. You know, that one song. Yeah. We had to sing that thing for a whole summer. What's the song? Uh. That's the song out. Yeah. It's so amazing. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, yeah. So this is going to be walking up. Get up. Come on. My mom is like this. Oh, God. He's like, he's straight. So moms can sing. My love. My face though. Yeah, dad can't sing now. No. Hell, no. I was really his entertainer. You know, he watching the interview. I said, he'll be looking like my father left with that part. Sure. Now, it was B2K. That was. Yeah. That was it. That's going to be dope. Yeah. So who else? Who else? Yeah. B2K, uh, Brown on the new on the Brown album. We got a joint too on there. Yeah. J. I. J. We did a joint with Jenae that I hope that leaves. It's really good. Have a special one come out with Jenae. Nice. Nice. Yeah. And then we got the black tuxedo project. How about the same, man? Yeah. Oh, man. It's time we both started dropping these by. Oh, man. I'm leading our song. Black tuxedo project. First single. Yeah. You did. You did. You did. When is the first record drop for black tuxedo? Yeah. I know you don't know yet. To be an out. A. S. As such by the time I told them niggas. Okay. A. My bad. Okay. I'm directing this towards the. A. S. Listen. Listen. Come on. Come on. Listen. Stand on the table, bro. Listen. Yeah. Talk your shit for the kids. These motherfuckers right here. They're talented and gifted for a long, long time. Yes, sir. And they've been using their talents and their gifts to elevate everybody else. Now it is time for their gifts and their talents to elevate them. It is selfish time. Yeah. You've earned it. You deserve it. Yellow. Haha. Hey. Period. Yeah. Talking about shit. I know all these records is going to come out on all these artists. And it's going to be good. Right. It's going to be fine. The level of production and writing and things that you do in that space. I unquestioned. For sure. You understand I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. But black tuxedo. Yeah. Time. Oh, yeah. Yeah. First time. First single called crash out just so you know. Come on. First time. Come on man. EP on a waves called boys in the band. Come on. Come on. Yeah. Yeah. Hey listen. Shit about to get interesting. Don't play with it. Listen. I'm trying to tell you right now. You talk about promotions. I'm. What's the what's the fan club? What is the fan club? Tuxedo game. He don't. Yeah. Tuxedo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. out. Well, no, it's coming out for sure. I know you got them right. It's coming out. Yeah, you're gonna put it out. Well, somehow. Somehow. Somehow. I have another one. Look at for y'all. Like they ran away from LA. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. I got my taxi to all. Y'all gonna be like, I don't like why is why is why is why is taking 106 from here in the song of boys in the band. I searched that sauce. My new group. Sign the answer to phone records. And run away in a 10. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I don't know how the people are gonna take them. So I'm not gonna do it. The imagery of the logo. I got it. Get out of here. Get out of here. No. No. No. Get out of here. Try to bring these shit up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You cut it out. Oh. Brian. Oh. That's great. That's great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What about you? What about this? You talked to drip, man. What about the fashion, man? Because that's another part that I think plays a major role in like how you guys are received to. Right. Like your your appearance. You. You look like somebody. Oh, yeah. We've got all the time. Put that shit on all the time. Yeah. I. I. Baden. You feel me? I was better. I was. Yeah. It's happening. How important do you feel that that is? It's I think it's everything. Mm-hmm. You never get a second chance to make a first impression. So when they see me they got to see this. I mean, I just take it as this is just how I feel today. You know what I mean? It's so much easier being yourself than somebody else. Right. So this is me. And a lot of niggas like to steal from me. I stole a couple fish. Just like that. You know what I'm saying? It's all good. Like we got it. Yeah. They got a handshake. What? It's that. It's that. It's that. What? They got it here. They got it here. They got it here. They're going to punch you. Yeah. I'm going to punch you. You've got two clothes. Cool handshake. They got it here. I'm saying it here. They got it here. I'm saying it here. You know my god damn nervous. It's not facing us. This is great. So I'm just I'm proud. And I'm excited for you guys. You know what I mean? And I just and and and we. Just know we thought it was important like to get your conversation. Yeah. And and and and and your recognition. and your recognition, people got to see you, Niggas. They got to see you, understand what we're so excited about. That's the purpose of this show. For all of us to make sure that we're seeing in our spaces, and for us to have this space for y'all. You know, for y'all to pull up and to tell y'all story and to introduce yourself in a different way to the world. Not just through the music, through your personalities, through the fashion, through y'all lifestyle. You know what I mean? This is the place for it, man. We really want to... Man, we... 160 plus episodes at this point. This is the purpose. You know what I mean? And y'all mean a lot to what we're doing. You know what I mean? And mean a lot to us, bro, y'all really family. Y'all really family, man. We proud of y'all. We love y'all, bro. It's platform that y'all created. It's going crazy. I think you recognize it the gas station is shit. Yeah, Niggas, we talking about y'all. You're on the streets now. I just think it's your I guess a little zoom zoom. Yeah, that's real. That's real. It's real. It shows. Listen, people have said that they listen to the podcast. I get way more of that than I do get records. Yeah, and I open up a whole new man. But again, it's because of this. Yeah. You know, as we can highlight y'all. Yeah, man. And highlight our peers. And for us people that we've just we've looked up to, people that we just mean like, This has been really cool man and I just had a moment just look it over at Charm and like, and this is crazy that we got a platform that we can yeah really lean to our brothers. Yep. So come on here and do they think man, man, this makes me happy for sure. I need this music out. Because I need this black tuxedo project. Yeah. That's it. The black tuxedo site, the black tuxedo gram and tick tock the. Yeah. It's time to suck. Tuxedo you too. Yeah. Black tuxedo man. Black tuxedo worldwide. Tuxedo gang worldwide. World wide. World wide man. This up. Like like, like you, you got it. You, you never really got it bro. Appreciate you bro. Yeah. And it's for me and our Grammy event. Of course. Yeah. What are we doing? Crash out first single. Black tuxedo. I got him jumping around. I don't know. I like. I'm jumping. I'm jumping around. I promise you it's a tuxedo gang member. Hey man, a lot of you'll be out of back. There's not even a camera over there. She's looking at the cameras right here bro. Don't make my tiki. Bro, he has nothing to do with it. That's not it. Tiki was like, what? What did I do? I'm stay diving. The ice out is gone. Wreck the whole party. Taked ripped out. Taked ripped out. Fire marshal shut it down. He's on one. It was a fire. He's on one. Taked it a corner with fire by. I'm just pitching you with a firefighter. You know, for the fire, it's gonna be a fun truck. I can't wait for you to get y'all hit record. Yeah, I'm excited. I can't wait. Because that's gonna be another party. Watching y'all have a hit where he's gonna be great. I'm gonna take on a hit. I'm excited. It's gonna be a grader. I'm gonna see you there. I'm sure. We'll be right there. Yeah. I'm sure. We'll be right there. Yeah. I got to take you. You move. I'll be there. Show. I'm comfortable. The smile is fucking great, bro. Right. They always do that. Oh. Yeah. I think this is good. With a little creepy smile. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. This is... Yeah. Yeah. Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. You're how you create his own stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He looks like that. He's doing it. Dom and Darius, you've... You've listened to some music growing up. By only three artists at first. But after that, you were able to expand your palette. Yes. Stop three. Stop three. Stop three. Stop three. Into some music that is shaped in your artistry. The people want to know what they want to know. Huh huh. They want to know your. Stop five. Stop five. Stop five. Your stop five. Come on with it. Stop five. Your stop five. Oh. Stop five. Your stop five. Oh. I'm missing us. But I'll be so... Without you knew before you go. Here on this show. The whole world will be on fire. Ah! Yes! Ah! Now on. Stop five. Ah! Listen, you're ready, well. You're home. Time. Five. Yeah. I'm going to bring it on home. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Daddy's got these. That's so great. You know right. No so it's right. You know what? We'll. Top five. R&B. Singers. The yalla grill much. Yeah, yeah, hmm. Don't sound just the handshake. Yeah, okay. All right On this one you do two you do three Okay Hmm, I'm gonna say Michael Jackson hmm And oh sure hmm. Yes, sir strong strong I gotta go tank Taxi-lo-game Brown CB hmm Hmm It's just R&B right. I know your world What you want to do can't real you got a car bar. Oh, Kim burr. Absolutely Kim burr. She called me. She called me to I wish I called I Yeah, I gotta call this is who yeah, so you want me to hold for? Yeah, you don't need to do it. Yeah, I'm ho I'm ho I'm way I'm way What is that happening? It's yeah, yeah, I gotta call it okay All right Now we're gonna do top five R&B songs you three you do too Don't be scared your own music you can just throw that out there Residuals Chris we have to do that absolutely we gotta do that absolutely Hmm Joe I want to know yeah, yeah, yeah, that's song That's a song Reader right Why don't drink your juice into Hmm Damn God damn it you got you got you got you got I got more. Yeah, I guess I go I'll go Marguer gay dance with me Yeah, that's not like some of your pops with this into the floor for show. Yeah, I'm starting to I'm starting to pick up his vibe You're good. You got to human nature Jesus Christ Yeah I'm gonna double up on Michael and another part of me Music quality and some of those songs is just a musician This world what was Michael home? Whatever heard another song like that whatever he wanted to be on yeah, yeah free Yeah, he was on the he was on some y'all can't do this yeah, right man And Prince keep making he said so I got it Right They can't be each other so sharp Michael Jackson and Prince Hi, man, high level sharpening People can say whatever they were all yeah, you know, they were too. I guarantee you That's when he just dropped Hey, Quincy could over here, right, Quincy let's hit the lab tonight niggas like Yeah, he said the lab tonight Because you like shit man shit man shit man. We're gonna keep it going It's four o'clock in the morning Oh, we're nearly You sure you want to focus this girl in the morning you only stretch your car Such a cool you could okay, all right That battle is great shit baby keep going man. I can dig it man You're super groovy Mike I Let's build your Voltron your super R&B artists who you can get the vocal from Performance style styling Passion of the artists Who's gonna produce For this artist and who's going Right for this artist. Yeah, those wrinkles in there star with you what are you gonna get the vocal from where you get in the vocal from one vocal? I gotta go back Michael Yeah, they're gonna get far said he's gonna hit every this all of it Top tier mm-hmm Don't perform it style Bro Nobody fucking bro you got it got it. Yeah No doubt about it no doubt about it. I see my boy flyer here. So he's been I seen it. I was I was worried Wow, how'd you get over you? I can't see you when they see what they bring you back down right I can't get it right I'm overseas before Before they changed some of the plot Because they had the big pillars in the back of the stadium before okay in the front right But you know people couldn't see that were blown blind spots so they moved it but before He would go to the pillar and it would be at the top he would land on the pillar stand he would be on the top of that No, I was I said oh he believes in the rafters. Yeah, well great Then we need one upside down. I said okay my post nasal drip. He gonna allow me Yeah, I'm gonna know Okay buckle mic formation style brown Um, styling. Who gonna steal your style? Damn. A who style would you steal? Hmm. Yeah. Ferrell and Kanye. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. And I thought about Michael when you know he had that Versace song. I was like, what? What? Are you talking about when you had the pants with the gold? Yeah. Yeah. The rust. He was over the top, man, okay? Yeah, he had the button up in the middle. Only he could do that. Or sure. I said a super artist. He was real onesie. Yeah, he was on his... I'm a silly. That's a leotard, wasn't it? Yeah, good. They got a light. With the button underneath. Yeah, a little snappy. Snappy. Yeah. That was different. I said, he a wild boy. Yeah. And they get caught in the Versace song. Yeah. That's it. I was like, we can go look that slide. Yeah, well, I'm not bad. And it was gold. Yeah. And you know what, it's my bro. You out of here. Hey, bro. I'm gonna be the fighter, bro. I'm gonna go, bro. He was gold. He had a pierced me, though, though. What's he going with? You're such a... I was thinking, uh... Shit, man. Michael Man, you're... Michael... Wow. But then yourself. Yeah. Man. Do you want to go gold? Do you want to go gold, man? Yep. Almost like... You're the other one. So, Michael Man. For real and Kanye. If I could... That's fire. Yeah. Yeah. What take a Utah? Let's take a look. Oh. Who? The passion of the artist, Tom. The heart of the artist. Who mean it? Ooh. The passion, Beyonce. Yeah. She should. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's a different type of artist. Different. I'm a double back to you. Who's producing for this artist? Me. Shhh. That's a great artist. Who's writing for this artist? Shhh. Wow. Me? See the good stuff. This is a fly. That's a fly. That's a big one. You're gonna be good. Yeah. You're knowing black tuxedo, G第一 broth. Shhh. She's gonna start moving. She's gonna start shaking. And you get to that ... ... I Spug they you daddy will let you I These two things now The news to Actually moms are there mom yeah, that's yeah, I love it. I love it. All right. Here we go I Said no names. Hey, I said no names. I said no names. I said no name. I said no name. We was We win what you did don't think she I said no Yes, sir, what good? Yes, sir I'll buy a CD I see by his you know they print up Okay, well y'all tell us the story funny a fucked up I funny and fucked them The only rule to the game is you can't say me it takes Please Love god, you can't say no names. I'm definitely gonna say ours, okay? We wasn't there. No, okay? All right Yeah, yeah, I got some what you got I'm trying to think it through her now You go ahead. Yeah, you got something in there. Oh Do you want to talk about the What the message Well, they're good. Yeah, yeah So so we go to the studio with this artist, right? Yeah, they call this him It's I feel like it's another one of those moments of We feeling like we got the record and we don't got the record touch it but the records weren't bad though and We press play on the record And bro grad is neckless Like though we're brusse I'm trying to laugh like brother and then after after he does all of this shit he was like It's not in He's been dancing to the song it saying this is not it boy. We was on fire Who was on fire? It's been snickless around spent dancing this shit? Nah It's just not the conversation I want to be right Why are you dancing? Yeah, we like oh yeah, he's dancing yeah That we had It's so disrespectfully misleading misleading it was pain Oh And he's you ask the way you did barely heard it back like what you gonna say to him He's like I don't want to call girls pitches, you know, and I'm like nigger I Yeah, man, I was like I'm like I'm like cut it out and then he was like play this song one more time and then he just went back to swing His chain It was getting me high Like and I'm looking at him like I can't wait to play me some songs Why is tanks I close I'm gonna just say this thing You gotta try that it's not it play you gotta try that right yeah And the point of just oh man. Oh, and crazy fucking it up. That's just weak Man the life of a producer. Yeah, my writer. Yeah, you win some people don't understand man for sure they don't date like if people just really know how Not guaranteed all of this shit is yeah Yeah, making 13 years 13 years going after it. You got to be a little crazy. No Little psycho absolutely got to yeah, delusional delusional When money loves like the little little little little little little out of the sky yeah and and Make a bunch of money with it right and make a more than all person going swing they chain to it right It actually like Because he didn't like y'all song It should it can't jam it to it. It's on there. It should is different man. Yeah, but we do is different because a lot of things have to line up too Right because I was the other thing like yeah, we make we had we making fun of it We have to you know tell the jokes about it, but the truth of the matter is He probably liked it not for him. Yeah, right exactly. Yeah facts Yeah, yeah, a lot of those conversations. Yeah, it don't hit me right Yeah, don't forget that bro already Right and that's tough as writers bro and that's produces it's a creative You didn't sit there was like this is for this person you didn't you in there for hours on a thing Look at what they got going on a life you doing all type of things. Yeah, the lyrics right Going there and get that good. Oh no It's just I like I like to like in it like if we put it in other professions like let's say you build houses right and You build what you think is a great house. Yeah Yeah, you're showing it to everybody like this how I'm telling y'all got I think she need to pull in the Endor court And everybody looks at the house like All right, yeah, yeah, you didn't invest it how much time right how much money I don't like the rooftop Oh good, you know, you know, Sam yeah, yeah, so it's like I just I wanted to say that so people can really like understand like Yeah, cuz they don't Understand it don't get it. They think oh, y'all got no. This is yeah, yeah, this ain't easy waiting for that one Yes, and then when you get that yes, then you got to wait for the world to say yes, too after you My god for sure it's a it's not a sprang as a marathon for sure for sure Yeah, miss the man. Well you niggas is in shape. Yes, sir definitely Y'all in shape, brother. Thank you brothers. Don't slow down for no reason Black tuxedo game like to see though. I'm sure something being my text chain for sure Residual 2.2. Yeah, and thank you again for the residuals challenge man. Oh, man. We set the whole thing on fire Y'all my brothers man, I appreciate it. Of course. I love and I love I was in love with the record. That's the biggest part like I love I love the record period, but you know the fact that Somebody thought there was gonna cause somebody else to do that. Yeah, it's crazy crazy Fueled the fire. Yeah Call my ass to know champ. Well said now we got to call a tank shot my boy Tariq set that up We put it together And uh, this yeah, man Man like tuxedo tank Tuxedo gang Teen breezy yeah behind I'm in a part of all of it. I just want to say that you brothers are extremely special. Thank you, and I pray that you know that Like that you really know that And and that it's not a matter of if just a matter of when Just keep fucking doing the work Just keep doing the work. I promise you I'm I ain't guessing Appreciate it. Just thank us out there. We're Yeah, man. Oh for sure So be nasty long You're gonna cut that they gonna cut that musical on Yeah No y'all y'all y'all y'all a great man. We we we we happy we got to do this Yeah, anytime you know that right Yes, anything Whatever I'll send the record to whatever you need to do. Yeah, good. Yeah, my name is tank. I'm Jay Valentine We've like this. We aren't be money podcast the authority on all things are R&B. Yeah, this is our family Yes, whatever we can do to turn them up Is up as well. I thought we still yeah, you're certain domandaries This is an I heart podcast guaranteed human