This Anime Made Us SO Angry | Trash Taste #285

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If you want to watch it on Patreon, we'll probably show some clips throughout this episode as well. But it was good fun. These things, I really am glad we get to do them together because... Doing that alone would have genuinely been torture. I would have just not watched some episodes. So this is the hate watch I discovered a few months ago where I got drunk with Sydney. And we just watched the first three episodes and we got unfathomably angry. And you may recognise this because Sydney was live tweeting as she was watching this. So Joey when we were watching it said, oh yeah, I got a four. I was like, that makes sense out of ten out of five. I was like, what? On Crunchroll, this has a 4.5 out of five. Like how? Dude, I mean, I guess people just like car crashes. Are we really that depraved of good anime? Who could do that? Do you not even, you know, feel like the writing could be like a better car crash? Like, you know what? Dare I say it, domestic girlfriend. Dare I say it, they had some, you know, ingenuity with their car crashes. You know, there would be, it was like, that's like watching the final destination of car crashes. Just absolute life. At least with domestic girlfriend, you knew it was a car crash, but you didn't know which direction the car was going to come. Holy shit, I've done it. I'm turning them. What you've done is like torture. And now I'm like, well, water body isn't so bad once you've done the rat in the bucket. Domestic girlfriend is peak car crash. That to me is peak car crash. But you know, some somewhere along the line, you know, sometimes I got to get my fix somewhere. And this is one I discovered this year. It's not as peak as domestic girlfriend is. I'm not that close, but holy fuck, it has been a long time since I have found a heroin that is as despicable and that I despise as much. The most unlikable character I've seen in anime in a long time. Yes. So, so what we always do in anime club, we always walk you through the rough plot of what is about an hour and a half of this media. So three episodes we watch. So if you walk through the basic premise. Take the reins. I'm going to get at this. Unless you want me to try. So I'll set things up. Guy and girl, they are friends. They are the best of friends. In fact, you could say. And there is this guy. His name is you and this girl, this bluehead girl called Himari. And the two of them, they call themselves the friends. They call themselves the best of friends. But Himari is that kind of friend who seems very, very touchy and very, very close. And she loves to tease you and she loves to do some weird things with her best friends, but it's okay because they are friends. They're just friends. They're just friends. They're just friends. And this first episode basically sets these two friends up as just a playful guy and girl. You has this accessory business and Himari is the marketing department. And they are basically business partners and nothing more than just business partners. They don't do anything in the show that we don't do. We hug each other's lap. Hug each other. Fake kiss each other. No, that's episode two. Fund of the Baltimore, you know, my action. At the end of episode one, we get introduced to this other girl, Inoki, the mushroom or whatever. Enoki. Enoki, the club, but I keep reading it. Enoki. Yeah, who is set up from the beginning to lose. You look at her character design and you're like, girl, why are we pretending you have a chance here? Tell me you are secondary character without telling me. Exactly. Which leads us to episode two. Connor, you want to take us through episode two? Well, episode two is when Himari has the genius idea because they're just friends. They're just friends. So there's no interest there. So she's like, well, I'm such good friends with him that I should help him find someone for love. And if that doesn't work out, I've already told him that it's okay because if we're both 30 and single, we'll live together. And that's a plan. So, you know, in the meantime, she's like, well, I should try and find something. So she's like, you know, encouraging this relationship between Enoki and you. So she has the genius idea of like, okay, well, let's use her as a model and some of her looks to play. It's some inspiration. And also slightly, let's, you know, edge on this relationship. Let's hopefully help them become a couple because that's what she wants. So they go to a department store where they go to an Indian restaurant and have a beautiful curry. I like how that's what you do. I remember that. I was the best part. And then they go to jewelry store for inspiration. And the whole time Himari is kind of like trying to get you to be a bit sensual to Enemoto, but not in the creepy way. He practices that multiple times. He's not creepy. He doesn't want to be the creepy guy. You know, and you gives off very like, kind of, you know, oblivious vibes. He's not trying to give off creep energy. He even says it about every other sentence that is not trying to be a creep, which, which every non creep does. They mentioned how much they're not. And then they go to a botanical garden. And while they're at this botanical garden, Himari is like, I got a great idea. I'm going to go get her some drinks and I'll bear it back. I'll leave you to a line. And so while she's getting drinks, a long line's taken a while. You was like, yeah, I'm not like the other boys. I don't like football or basketball. She's like, uh, really? And you was like, you don't want to hear about it. She's like, no, I want to hear about it. And he's like, okay, well, shit, I guess I'll tell you when I was a kid, I had this experience where I went to a botanical garden and my parents had left me. And there was this girl crying and she was lost. And I, I found her and I took care of her and even got a flower and put it in her hair. It was a hibiscus. And then an emoticons. That was me. That was me and Oki. That was me. We were meant to be and they hit it off. And then Himari, oh, she sees this happen. The fireworks happening. Even though she wanted this to happen and she pushed for it, she then goes home and goes like, why does it feel like it's been broken up? And then the episode ends. And then we get to episode three, Joey. And then episode three where it happens where after the botanical garden trip, you has struck inspiration. He's, he's, he's created a new set of accessories, but he needs a model. So he asked Enomoto to, hey, can you, can you model this accessories for me? He starts taking photos. You know, Himari, this entire time is like still trying to push you and Enomoto to like, you know, be a little more intimate in that kind of stuff, even though it's just, even though it's just modeling. Oh, I forgot in episode two as well that she asks him, well, we should, we should both kiss. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Himari's just like, you want to, because we don't feel anything for each other. So we should kiss to practice. As we all do. That's what bro's do is when he was about to kiss her after thinking it was a prank, she pulled away and started laughing at him. He's like, how you fucking lose? That's crazy. Even though I've done this multiple times. So that whole, so that whole brewing is happening inside Himari. And then once he, once you finally, you know, after all the inspiration and everything, you know, he's like, I've done it. I've taken days to, to craft the new piece that, that will really bring spark to this new online shop that we're trying to create. And it's a rosebud in as a hairpin. I'm sorry, a tulip. Excuse me. It's a tulip as a hairpin. And, and, you know, they're like, okay, let's, let's, let's put it on Enomoto and see if she likes it. You missed the other part too. The very important part where they're taking photos. Oh yeah, they're taking photos. They're taking photos and you is like, oh my God, I think this is, this will be like perfect for her. So, and then this other guy, Shinji, who is like, I guess a previous boyfriend of Himari back in like middle school is, you know, being the fucking bro in this situation, realizes that you and Enomoto have like, you know, a thing brewing for them and Himari and sees through Himari's bullshit. Basically, oh yeah, Himari definitely has feelings for you, but as, you know, because she's my bitch ex-girlfriend, I'm not going to side with her. I'm going to side with my bro instead. And then so they go to like a family restaurant. You puts the new hairpin on Enomoto and, and Shinji is like, hey, you know what, you know what you should do? You, you should ask Enomoto to be like your, your, your model, like your, your only model, your exclusive model for all of your accessories because it just works really nicely. Himari then claps back or tries to clap back and goes like, I don't know, man, you've been putting it on me this whole time. You know, as your business partner, I don't fully agree with that. You know, we can use Enomoto, but you should also continue to use me, you know, right? As your best friend, right? And then basically Shinji pulls a fucking like Uno reverse card, starts gaslighting her instead and was like, I don't know, man. I think, I think this other relationship works better. I think it works for your business. Wasn't it you that suggested she become a model in the first place? You're, you're reaping your own concept. Himari takes this very well. So you think so, but instead no, Himari explodes and, you know, really tries to like desperately claw back up the hill and being like, no, you, you, you, you, you, you'll, you'll continue to use me as a model too. Like you won't just use Enomoto, but then you was like, you know what I'm saying? Second thought. Nah, I think, I think I just, I think you, you always get in the way. You're always teasing me. You're always like a distraction to what I'm trying to, to my art and my craft. So I think this time around we just, I'm just going to use Enomoto from here on out. Himari then explodes, tries to cool down by drinking her fucking yogurt drink that she drinks like seven times an episode. Doesn't have any. And so what does she do? She pours a glass of water over use head and says, we're not friends anymore. Fuck you. We're breaking it up. This friendship is over cause it's, cause it's, cause it's useful. Yeah. All of this is useful. Himari is just a perfect angel who can do no wrong and has done no wrong. Oh, and there's also two of the things that you missed that I think were quite important. There was one part where when she was talking about the tulips, Himari was like, well, Anoki, you know, we, we nearly kissed, right? Like unprompted, like trying to sabotage. And then obviously Anoki's like, yo, I don't want to deal with this fucking bullshit. I'm leaving. And so later on as well, when they do a little photo shoot, Anoki's like there chilling and he can't quite get the picture that he wants. So he tells to Anoki basically like, oh yeah, he tried to make out with me on the table, which Himari dragged him onto the table, try to take a picture of him potentially getting close to her and then try to frame it as him trying to make out with her and like jumping on her. Yeah. I missed that because I was so like, like so angry as a psychopath. And the worst part is after she tried to take a picture and you catch a son, he's like, what the fuck? Himari's just like, wow, I didn't know you had no fucking balls. I gave you the green light and I'm just like, bro, what? What? This is why people, you know, some get some dudes need literal consent. To the face. Yeah. Please. I'm okay with it. Let's do it. God forbid a man asks for some consent, you know, like fucking hell. But no, apparently you is the, you is the, the problem child here because he's not being straight up with anyone. And Himari doesn't like the fact that he's not being straight up with her or Enomoto. Meanwhile, Himari is the most wishy washy fucking person in this entire show so far and doesn't know what she wants. Doesn't know what anyone wants. I've decided this is why no one's having babies in this country. I'm telling you. This is how you, this is how you birth an incel. This is the pipeline. The only other men being down on the incel pipeline, the women that are given consent. What do you want them to do? This is even worse than that because Himari is just like, you know, bro, want to kiss? I'm just joking, bro. Yo, imagine fucking trying to nut in me, even though I told you to, man, bro, that's crazy. That's a lie. Even though I told you to take the condom off, that's crazy. When did I give consent, bro? It did have the exact same energy of like the hentai series is where they like, they like, just slightly jerk that meat and then they're like, it's a funny prank, right? You know what I mean? A classic prank. I'll just jerk it a little bit. You know, like it's ridiculous. It genuinely feels like I was watching incel propaganda. I was trying to watch like what someone felt like this is how normal people behave and they wanted me to hate women. I think that's the, yeah, I think that's the biggest scene of this show so far. It's just that not only is it ticking off every single light novel trope imaginable, like lazily, like lazily, like during the first two episodes, there were multiple, like you'll see it in the Patreon recording. There are multiple moments where all three of us called what was going to happen and you don't want that in a story. You don't want to know what's going to happen or what's, you know, what's who's going to say what before it fucking happens. Like it's just, it's just lazy writing in my opinion and it's just like, it's just so fucking boring. Like I didn't care about any of the dialogue that was going on. Oh, I cared. I cared because every time you Marie spoke, I'm just like, I'm my blood pressure just rose. Yeah, because she reminds me of like that fucking toxic girl. I need to be the center of attention and I'm, I'm a lead, I'm a lead people on just because I want the attention. But as soon as the guy starts losing attention, she's like, yo, where's my attention? Come back. Also you for fuck's sake, you is such a fucking useless fucking fucking boundaries. You fucking balls down and not in her hand. Like he keeps seeming into dude. My God, it's infuriating watching him allow this person to just take advantage of him. And it's like, you know, I feel like he's just as fucking annoying as her. He just won't fucking say anything. He sits there and lets everything happen to him and it's insufferable. Like my God. There is not a single likable character in the show. No, he's okay. And no, he's okay. Really? I also find an okay really fucking annoying as well. Because at the end of, okay, because like during the first two, okay. First couple of episodes, right? She's, she's portrayed as this like kind of, of course, tick off the trope. She's like the cute, like sexy girl, but she's also the clots and she gets a little emotional sometimes. And then at the end of episode two, when you find out that, oh, actually she's had a crush on you this entire time. She does the biggest fucking 180 personality switch and it's just like, oh well, you can please look at me. I'm like shut your bitch ass up. You know what? It's hard to hate Enemoto when she has to be in the same vicinity as Himari. I think all my hate got redirected to Himari. Like there's so many points where that's just there's so much like microaggressions there. Like, do you remember that scene where like you gives her a little bit of like attention and then Himari is like, yo, what are you looking at? Kind of looking a little slutty there. Himari is like Enemoto. Like what's up with that? Yo, by the way, you know, she's a virgin yet. I'm like, I'm not telling you anything from now on. Wussis lips on the plan. The only guy that was so respectable was apparently the player boy who dates every woman in Shinji. He respects women and clearly wants to, you know, add to the woman empowerment because he was clearly trying to help Enemoto is getting dogged on by Himari. Yeah. And he's trying to help you as well. Being like, yo, don't fucking listen to her dude. Like you two are clearly made for each other. Fuck her. I thought this show was going to be like what this show was when I thought the hundred girlfriend shows that can end up being like, but it was like complete opposite. Like the hundred girlfriends was like, great. Yeah. The hundred girlfriends was awesome. This one was just fucking depressing and annoying. And the writing was terrible. Like it wasn't fun to listen to any of the dialogue. None of the scenes look particularly beautiful. None of the quote unquote jokes are funny in any way whatsoever because clearly, you know, it's very trophy light novel writing where like it is a romance. Yes, but it can't just be a straight romance. It needs to be a rom-com. Well, just it just feels like whoever made like wrote it is like never talked to a human being. No, a hundred percent. Well, here's the biggest thing that pisses me off right. Because normally, you know, when I have a hate watch, it's like a hate watch, but at least you get the satisfaction at the end of the characters getting what they deserve. Watching this, this is going to sound horrible because obviously, obviously I've said a lot about this. Watching this made me appreciate school days. Because there was an ending. Because with school days, all my hatred had a payoff at the end. You know this shit? This shit I sat through 12 episodes of this shit and I'm going to spoil it right now. Himari wins. What has this bitch done to deserve? Excuse me? I'm going to spoil it because we're not going to fucking spoil it for you. I'm a fucking spoiler for you. Moodown will have had a spoiler. It doesn't matter. No one's watching this shit. I also knew we would not live in a world just enough for Himari to lose. There is no justice. There is no good in the world. Let me tell you what happens in episode four. So you saw a little bit of Himari's gas lighting, right? You saw a little bit of that. Episode four, obviously they've broken up as friends, right? You's like, yo, what the fuck, bro? I don't know why you like, why are you crashing out? That was not a valid crash out. Why are you crashing out? And what does Himari do? She orchestrates this lie to be like, you are moving to Tokyo. She orchestrates this lie to be like, you know what? I'm running away. I'm running away. I'm moving to Tokyo. And this is what pisses me off even more. You fucking force for it, right? You force for it. He's like, you know what? I just, I don't want you to move to Tokyo. He's my... Is he like best friends with fucking Inazuka, like her brother? She fucking asked the brother. I don't know. I'm like, Brock, is this true? He was eyes. He's about to, he's about to like, he's about to resign. He's like, I have my resignation letter for the school. I'm going to resign from this school. I'm going to move to Tokyo with you and let's open up our shop. What? Right? And Himari's like, hold up, don't do that. Oh, would you look at that? I just got an email that says, I'm not moving to Tokyo. Doesn't even fess up on the lie. Just like magically is just like, oh, actually, I've never addressed again. No, it is addressed five episodes later, which is like, you, I feel bad. I lied to you. You were about to like give up your life to move to Tokyo over a lie. And you was like, I don't care. I like you. Can you resign from school? Can you do that? Can I as a student resign from school? You're out of school, right? You can be like, I'm leaving. I assume so. In Japan, you can. Me with no parental permission. I mean, it depends on the school, but it's technically not illegal to do. Because high school in Japan is not mandatory. Bro, I think he's walking into the 7-Eleven. He's at school. Okay. So she apologizes and he just says, I don't give a fuck. What the fuck? Like the fucking, see, he's just as fucking bad. I knew he is. He is just going, going with all of the gas lighting that Himari does. And even if he finds out, he's like, you know what? I kind of dig it. I kind of dig it. Amari is an emotional terrorist. Yes. And then there's fucking Enoki, Enoki Enomoto. She's a, she fully plays into this. I'm second best. She fucking, she, oh my God. I hate it. She confesses not once, not twice, three times. She confesses to you three fucking, and it's not subtle. She's like, you, I like you. And you's like, yeah, that's cool. What does that mean? I don't know what you're talking about. I like you. And she's like, yeah, bro, that's cool. What's Himari doing? She's about to move to Tokyo. Oh my God. What is it with light novel protagonists that need to be just some of the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet? There is dumb. There is not a single, because the whole point of a protagonist like this, right? With any light novel rom-com is that it's supposed to be a self-insert. No one wants to self-insert into this guy. So when do they, okay, so, so how does it all end then? How does it all end? So you and Himari finally fucking confessed to each other. They are no longer built boy girlfriends. They kiss. And then Enomoto is just like, I just let them be together. It'll be my time next time. And I'm like, bro, I am serious. Yeah, yeah, I'm dead ass serious. Because that's probably not where the story ends, because not only is this light novel, I looked it up. Not only is this light novel still serializing, but there's 11 volumes. There's no way they're going to cover 11 volumes in 12 episodes. So this is probably like the plot up until probably like volume three, four. See, the biggest thing that pisses me off is that I don't think, I don't think the writer realises how fucking toxic they made Himari. Because no matter how toxic she is, she just, she doesn't get any repercussions for any of it. Any of it. I feel like everyone has that one friend who's like, they're dating the worst person. And they like, you just like, that's it. That's the life, bro. He's been his whole life dating the worst person. And there's nothing we can do about it. For some reason he's dating the worst person. He's blind. He's snow blinded. And even if you have a talk with him, he's like, nah, nah, you, you're the toxic one. You're the toxic one. I can't believe you'd gas like me like that. What the fuck? She is literally the worst female protagonist I have seen in such a long time. Because there have been some toxic female protagonist before. There have been some toxic female characters before. A lot of the times they get their repercussions for something, you know. They get their repercussions or there's like a somewhat valid reason in their backstory for them to act like that. I don't see that in Himari. I don't think there's anything that's valid. Yeah. When it's, when it's this far in already the first three episodes, what possible backstory is there to be like, yeah, you know what, Himari was the victim all along. I also hate that justification when they're like, no, he's a piece of shit, but he's got a sad backstory. So it makes sense why he's a piece of shit. No, I hate that. Do you think that just because something bad happened to you, you can be a piece of shit to everyone? No, bro. Everyone's life sucks. Get over it. We're all trying to fucking coexist, right? We do that in anime because everyone's so infallible and everyone has a great backstory. So the moment the one character like dad laughed them, it's like, wow, he's a piece of shit guys, but it's okay. He had no dad. See, this is why I've been preaching the school days is amazing because even the author knew that we're like, yeah, you know what, everyone fucking sucks. I'm just going to kill all of them. You know what? This one show, the one saving grace of this one show, it's that it's made us rethink our opinion on both school days and domestic girlfriend. That is the line that this show is setting right now. I'm just wondering like, who is this for? Why was this made? That's what I'm saying. Who will read this or watch this and be like, yeah, you know what, you just like me for real. Because that's the thing. I've seen some people defend Himari. What? How? Who's the defense of Himari? Have they ever gone outside? I've seen some defense. You need OJ's lawyer to get off. Your Honor, she didn't do it. She's innocent. I've seen some people defending her like, you know what, it's not Himari's fault. She didn't know her own feelings. She hasn't processed her own feelings yet. Therefore, it's okay to... No, it's not. She's just being your honor. Your Honor, she just being dumb teenage girl. Why does her shortcomings have to be someone else's problem? We all fucking know our feelings. Get over it, fucking Himari. Stop being a bitch. That's like if OJ's lawyer was like my... Your Honor, he was just confused. He just didn't know who he was. You know, it's... The insanity please. No, it's just the amount of fucking gaslighting. I'm pretty sure there was a line in it where she said to... She had the audacity where she goes to Enamoto. And she's like, I think she said something along the lines of, you need to be more clear to you about your feelings. And I'm like, bitch, bitch, what? Bitch, what? The audacity. It's even at the end of episode three where she crashes out on you. And I'm like, bitch, this is the repercussions of your... The consequence of your own actions, man. Like, I get that they're kids. I get it, right? Because that prevents you like, well, high schoolers. Yeah, okay, kids are dumb. They're gonna be the best or most emotionally intelligent. But bro, Himari is like, stroking his nutsack half the episode. I just don't... I'm sorry. I don't care how your feelings are. You just can't. But at the same time, even though they are just teenagers, right? I've seen some people act as toxic as Himari, you know? Unfortunately, that toxicity exists in real life. And unfortunately, I don't think this series recognizes how toxic some of these actions are, bro. I'm just like, bro, why are we trying to excuse toxicity with just being like, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, she was... She didn't realize her feelings. Ooh, that's why she was feeling to being toxic. I know. I need to see... Can you go on to like the My Anime list of the show? I need to see what like the... Any positive reviews. I need to see if anyone actually has positive reviews. Yeah, okay. Most of them don't recommend. Funny. This anime truly was fulfilling after watching the last episode. All I can say slash feel is, oh my God, this anime ended in a much better way than I thought, given what we saw last time. What? The bottom paragraph is telling you how they recommend for anyone who's reading the review. Don't pay attention to any negative reviews and trust me. Just trust me, bro. This is a must watch anime romance. And I bet you're going to love each events that unfolds. You'll feel the cutsy aggression. The cutesy aggression. The cutesy aggression. Why is that? He's called cutesy. No, they just misspelled. Yeah. This guy's four years old with each app, cringy and second hand emberment, moments and many more feelings. But that's the fun of romance anime. Tell me you've never seen a romance anime. Yeah, but this guy... This guy's 10. He's 10 and he's never seen romance. This is, oh my God. I just don't know. Guys, as somebody who's had experience being best friends with the opposite sex, this show is stupidly accurate without him. No, it's not. Brother, you were harassed. Brother, you need help. You need help. Please. Oh my God. How can anyone recommend this show? The show is fantastic. An absolutely amazing rom-com with great characters and drama. Himari and you are probably one of the most interesting rom-com couples I've seen on the... In what universe? On the surface, the popular guy and the loser, probably the loser guy who have mutual feelings for one another, but I just can't see it. I don't think Himari's popular. I don't think that's ever stated. I think that it was stated right at the beginning of... I thought it was just stated that she was beautiful. No, she's got... In the first episode, she's the center of attention because she runs this fucking business or has an Instagram account or something. Also, when you was just like, pretty girls aren't my thing. I'm like, brother, what? I'm looking for an ogre. What is wrong with you? Fucking awful show. But yeah, I mean, watching this, I'm just like, you know what? Maybe rent a girlfriend isn't so bad. No, it's still bad. They're both bad. It's still bad, but there's different levels of bad. This is just like pick your type of cancer. I think it's even worse, worse hearing that she won. That is the worst part. I think there's some redemption or maturity in the story to recognize that Himari and her behavior is toxic as fuck. And to be able to like maybe tell an interesting story as to why that didn't work out for Himari. But to have it work out for Himari is like, great. So the worst person you know, it gets all the best things. Yeah. Nothing good happens. You're advocating to be the most toxic fucking person imaginable. Worst of all, fucking Anoki over here is just fucking waiting for her turn. Like, what is this? I don't know what kind of male fantasy this is. This is the worst timeline. It just shows that no matter how toxic someone is, if you make her a cute anime girl, there's always going to be some people on the side, you know? Just make a wu-ku-ki. Yeah, you are. You are forgivable if you're cute. If you're clumsy. All problems solved. Just be hot. If you're hot or clumsy or cute, you just get away with so much. There are people who will spin any which way to kind of jump. This is probably no one in Japan's having kids, man. This is it. This is the reason. Christ almighty. That was, can a boy-girl friendship survive? We watched it. So you don't have to. Do not watch this fucking show. There are so many other better shows. So many better shows you could be spending your time on. I got them to watch it because I needed them to suffer as much as me. Yeah, thanks, dude. Because this is my bimonthly hate watch that I get my friends to all watch. Who keeps reading and watching and green light of these shows? Again, how is there 11 volumes of this? It's crazy. I should be a line of all for. Yeah, I don't know how they're 11 volumes. I don't know what the plot progression can possibly become one of these authors. It seems like the writing is like industry planning. Let fucking Grock do it, bro. It would come up with a shit of even better. I think. Yeah, I just can't imagine that this author is, I don't even think this is a matter of like, oh, it just translated Pauling to anime. I just genuinely, I can't look at this story and look at these events unfolding. And imagine the writing being like so fucking good that it needed to be published. The line of all industry is really fucking starving right now. It really is. If this shit can get fucking published, God, well, I mean, how many light novels get published every year? So this came out in Dengi Kibunko, right? Which is one of the bigger light novel. Dengi Kibunko is basically like the shonen jump of light novels. Some of the biggest shows that end up, end up going through Dengi Kibunko. You know, we're talking like sort of online, you know, to our like all of like the big shows. And usually with, with these kinds of things, they have to submit it to a contest or like a competition in order to get published. And it's usually, I think like the top three, like the first three places of this, I think it's yearly or bi yearly competition get published. Which means this shit won an award. This shit literally won a light novel contest in order to get published. Most dog shit light novel. All right. Here's a real question. Do you think the author is male or female? Male. Because I was like on the fence, because sometimes I've read these types of stories and there is just a subtle understanding of what, you know, the toxicity, like how toxic people act. There's a subtle way, there's a subtle understanding that I think female authors just get perfectly. You know what I mean? I mean domestic girlfriend, I feel like, say what you will, but at least the characters and the, specifically the women in it had like their very distinct characteristics and use them to the strength of the story. Yes. Which is a sentence I never thought I'd answer. This is like a fine wine. This is the goon bad. It's either my understanding is regardless of the gender, I think this author understood what they were doing. And I think purposefully, I think rage bait, they're rage baiting. I think that's what they're doing. I think in order to stand out in the light novel crowd, you either need to just have like an insanely well written compelling story or you just have to make rage bait slob. Okay. If I was in the industry, I know I wouldn't be able to write fucking free ran. I'll write this. I can write this. Is it a man or woman? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Light novel author is usually very private. Let's find out. Because is the author of scums wish? Are they female? No, no, no, no, no. Oh, that's just a pen name. Could be anything. For scums wish, I think it's a guy who wrote it. Scums wish because scums wish. Well, Yoko Yari Mango, the illustrator is a guy. Yeah, I would remain anonymous if I wrote this. I don't want people to know I did this. Can we search up scums wish? Yeah, scums wish author. Great name. Yeah, Yoko Yari Mango is a guy. I'm pretty sure. God damn. This was a good drama as well. Scums wish is great. Yeah, scums wish is awesome. You know, sometimes I just like seeing toxic people do toxic things, but you know, deal with that. But with scums wish, right? You had also just like really toxic characters. We didn't know what they were doing because they had confused feelings or whatever. But they, they reap the consequences. Yeah, exactly. Like the main girl actually got like the bad end. Yeah, I mean, that's the thing, right? Is it like, yeah, so they are teenagers and they can be this dumb. Yes. But the whole point as a teenager is that you, you learn why there's a dumb. You learn these lessons. That's the whole point. You're meant to learn and grow. And so to have no kind of teaching or something, not teaching, but no meaning. It's like, what's the point of the story? You haven't told anything. You've even tried to express an idea. All you've done is just give frustration. And then on top of that, it fucking sells. Yeah. Have you, have you, Joey, have you read a boys abyss? No, I know the name though. Yeah, that's, that's another one where it's just bro toxic. Maybe I have a type. Maybe I have a type. I think, look, there is a room for, for shows where everyone is the worst, but I also think it takes a very competent writer to make hateable people interesting to watch. Yeah, because it's hard thing to do. Yeah, it's definitely. It's showing people their flaws, but showing them in a realistic way where the story doesn't make excuses for the toxic behaviors that the characters go through and do. Yeah. And it just felt like boy girl friendship got put over a filter of just like, huh, these, no one really knows that no one really recognizes what toxic behavior is. She's a cute anime girl. Toxicity doesn't exist. I mean, when you're kids, you don't know how to recognize it or come. Well, yeah, when you're teenagers, you don't know how to process that. I mean, look, I, that, you know, obviously, yes, it's harder for you to process that, you know, possible gaslighting and toxicity when you are also a teenager who's trying to figure out their own emotions, but fuck me, man. The fact that you is just clueless about this shit and it's just like, you know what? Yeah, I'll go with the toxic bitch. What on? Seems fun. Like, bro, you're going to end up a fucking divorce dad. Like what they think that boys do, meanwhile, it's just learning slurs on cod. Like practicing fluency. This episode is brought to you by Redfin. You're listening to a podcast, which means you're probably multitasking, maybe even scrolling home listings on Redfin. Saving homes without expecting to get them. But Redfin isn't just built for endless browsing. It's built to help you find and own a home with agents who close twice as many deals. When you find the one, you've got a real shot at getting it. Get started at redfin.com. Own the dream. That brings us to our second thing, which is what the patrons requested. Something that is completely different because since I recommended an anime, the patrons went with a film this time. Not just any film. Not just any film, the worldwide sensation number one most watch movie on Netflix. Isn't it actually? I think it is. K-pop demon hunters. Holy shit. I just kind of came out of nowhere. I kind of just took over. Kind of just took over. So this was the talk for the town like a few months ago. We're a little bit late to it. But perfect excuse for anime club since this on paper has everything that I don't like. I don't really like K-pop. I don't like musicals. And I don't know what you boys thought, but I was pleasantly surprised. Dude, this movie is fun as fuck. It's the most like dumb fun ever. Like the animation was fucking great. The characters are fun. And I like the fact that they didn't take the story like all that seriously. There were obviously serious moments, but there's also like a lot of like jokie, quippy kind of moments like strung all throughout it. Even like the villains are like, you know, not really like taking it all that seriously. Sony pictures animation. They've got a really good art. Yeah, it's really good. They didn't really like to get with the animation. The dialogue was really fun. I wonder how the fuck this came to be a Netflix only. I don't know. It's pretty fascinating. I'd say after after spider-verse and this, you know, Sony Pictures animation stocks just went like kind of up there. Cause holy shit, what they thought they're bringing out now, everything can't seem to miss. And you know, I still came out with Kpop Demon Hunters being like, I mean, it still is not so much for me, but I did have fun watching it, which is much more than I thought. I would happen. Yeah, obviously the first person I know who watched this and was talking about it was Emily. Yeah, Emily's watches like five times. I was really fucking against what this is before it blew up. I was really against watching it purely because of the name. I literally judged the book by its cover. I was like, that name sounds so fucking cringe. Like what is this going to be? And I still don't think the name is great, but I also don't know what you would do. Like what else could you name it? I mean, look, they knew what they were doing with the SEO. I think at the end of the day, it's like just say what it is. And then, you know, at least it's interesting. But yeah, I loved it. I mean, I loved how it just gave you no moment of breathing. Like it's an hour 30 and it's in, out, get a bunch of catchy songs and... It doesn't waste time. No, it doesn't. It doesn't need to waste time. And I love that like, because I'm not a big Kpop guy. I don't think anyone's off. And I thought it was going to be like all of it, like very deep into like Stan culture, Kpop stuff. And I loved how it kind of mostly like poked jabs at it, if anything. Didn't really like use that as a massive point. The only Kpop aspect is that I guess it is just literally Korean pop, but it wasn't like Korean pop in the standard way you think of it. And so I just really ended up being really fucking fun. I mean, songs are also extremely catchy. I hate it how catchy they are. I'm like, I don't fuck with this guy. Golden was definitely the best track. Oh, handstand. Yeah. Golden was best track. Like the Saja Boys. Saja Boys. Love the Saja Boys, bro. Are you a stan now? I'm a stan, bro. Saja Boys for real. I appreciated the way it like also like their designs, if like the Korean outfits as well. And I loved it. That was like their motif. It was really cool. Yeah. And I, because this was actually my second time watching it. But first time I watched it, very, very drunk with a bunch of other people. You know, so it was like, I couldn't fully appreciate it as much as I did on this watch through where I treated it as a first watch through. Yeah. I said it in an earlier Trash Taste episode that I can't put my finger on why, but this feels like a Gen Z film, right? And I said that earlier. And I think I can vocalize why that is the case due to my second watch through. I like the pacing of this is so incredibly fast. It's just, I kind of realized it watching the first 10 minutes of this watch through, but there is constant stimulation. Yeah. And that is credit to Sony Pictures Animation for making something that always grabs your attention. If you give it a watch through, not only don't only watch like every time that they cut or something, but every other cut, there is a visual gag going on or a kind of like it's a set up to a joke or the payoff to a joke. Or there is something interesting happening with the animation. It does not give you time to breathe. And then it goes straight from that to song. Yeah. Song, next plot point. Next plot point, song again. It is... There's not a single quiet moment. Yeah. And I think sometimes you can, you know, when you have editing this fast and colors this bright, it runs the risk of feeling like you're trying to be fed baby food. But you know, they nailed it. Yeah, they did. It just kind of feeling kind of like fun. And I imagine that's partially why it's done so well is that I feel like you can kind of show this to any age group and you'll at least have fun with it. I think if you walk away hating this, I'd kind of be a bit like, you didn't really try to give it a shot. Yeah. And this is not like a backhand thing or anything. It to me, it felt like I was watching like a Pixar film. No, no, no. I know exactly what you mean. It's just like, just don't take, you know, just kind of turn your brain off, just like have fun with the visuals, have fun with the guys, you know, like the songs, enjoy the action. And it's like, yeah, you know what? That was good. The animation was satisfying. The animation was good. And it's like... The story did what it needed to. And it was a fun story, you know, and it suited the vibe perfectly. And like, I would say like the second thing why it got like super popular as well is like, damn, the facial animations. I felt like everyone was a living emoji. Yeah. You know, it was like every frame of this I felt was like almost designed to be as spreadable and as memeable, as possible. Like every emotion, every face was a reaction gift. Yeah. Was a possible reaction gift. Almost she was eating the, I forgot what it's called, the Korean, kind of like the sushi. Yeah. Kimbap. The sushi roll. Yeah. She's just like, forward-goating the kimbap. Yeah, she's just like, oh! Oh yeah, she snows it as well. I mean, it feels like kind of like watching old like, the Loonitunes cartoons. Yeah. It was very like rubber hosie. Yeah, for the Motton. Yeah. And hey, I mean, that shit was, was he back in the day? Yeah. Totally back. I mean, we, you know, fucking, there are memes from that era that are being spread around today. Totally. Stole around. Yeah. For a reason. Yeah, I think it just works really well. It's hard not to like it. My only worry is that it becomes a kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy of success that ends up making it over-saturated. I feel like we're going to get Kpop Demon Hunters. Two, three, spin-off. Jaypop Demon Hunters. It's going to be, it's going to do, it's going to, I can already anticipate like the dollar signs. Like it's going to be milked into oblivion until everyone hates this franchise. Okay. But right now. At the same time, like, even though, like, I enjoyed this, it wasn't, it wasn't for me, but I'm just fucking happy that there is a new IP that has come out in the film industry and is just actually getting the love and attention. It deserves because I feel like for the longest time, it's just like, oh, we are living on old IPs, recycling sequels, remakes and all that. And it's so refreshing just to see something new come along, a new IP come along. And actually, You didn't like Jared Leto and Tron? The wall acclaimed. I haven't seen that. I carry on. Yeah. It's just so refreshing to see something new coming along and actually making an impact, you know, becoming the number one most watched Netflix animation and film of all time. You know, I love when something comes out with like zero marketing and just pure word of mouth, just fucking. Yeah. It's so cool to see because it just makes you restore faith in art and our ability to share it with each other and how important that is in some weird way. Because, you know, you know, you always hear about marketing budgets. They didn't market the movie. It's like, man, this movie didn't, I don't, I didn't see anything about this movie and I didn't want to talk about it. And even when it was, you know, any kind of niche still, it was still not huge at the point where it's out yet. You know, But I would say looking at this, you know, looking at K-Bop Demon Hunters as a product, how wasn't it going to go viral? Like what part of this is this easily could have felt like a soulless. Okay. If it was good, if it was good, like if K-Bop Demon Hunters is good, thankfully enough, if it wasn't good, then yes, it wasn't. But on like a marked ability level, every single fucking frame of this like movie is markedable from the designs, the songs, the faces, the memes, every part of this. And this isn't me trying to detract from it. This is just purely looking at this as a product about like how, what aspect of this is going to be spread around as opposed to, you know, other film, other Hollywood films that may have flopped, you know, like this was designed to be spread online. And yet, and if it was good and stuck the landing, which it did, people were always going to want to talk about it and spread it around and sing the songs. And my God, the songs are inescapable. I'm pretty sure I heard some of these songs. I'm pretty sure I heard Soda Pop in fucking Porto. My gym is only playing in Sufferbilt. Like I like the songs, but I don't want to work out to golden every single time. Yeah, you know, my only, this is a me problem clearly, but like I just wish I could like K-pop a little more. I wish I could as well. It's just, it just like as catchy as fuck as some of these songs were in this movie, it's not like, I'm not like, you know, fucking shitting my pants over. I wish I could love it as much as people do. I'm jealous. In this thing, they're like, they're like writing their own songs and they're like, they're like all worked together and like shout ideas. And I'm like, that doesn't fucking happen. That does not happen. You've got a board meeting, bro. And then they hired writers and they decide what the next song is, and then they put a bunch of English in it that doesn't make fucking sense. And it sounds ridiculous. You know what watching this movie made me realize? Like K-pop culture and stuff like that. I wish I could care as much as their fans do. I wish I could care about anything as much as their fans do. It looks fun, man. It does. It looks fun. I just have this mental block where I just, I can never be that big of a fan. Yeah. I'm like, man. I'm legitimately jealous of K-pop fans. Yeah. You can be so into this one genre. Yeah. Just like one group or whatever it is. Like I've, cause I've never been like that with anything. Yeah. Cause I've, I feel like that also perhaps we're jaded from, you know, having some small level of, of fame. I think we're pretty, you know, we probably can. But it's been my entire life. I feel like, I feel like I've already moved past the old man shots at cloud phase. And now I'm just like, damn, I appreciate this. I wish I could care that much. Yeah. I wish I could be that person. I think, I think what it might be for me is that just like, I'm not a huge like fan of just like the overall idol culture. Yeah. Cause you know, at the end of the day, K-pop, you know, their idols, right? And, and it's the same reason why I never got into like J-pop idol stuff too. It's just like, it's not that the songs are bad necessarily or it's like crap music or whatever. It's just like, I just personally don't really see myself fitting into that culture. And I think that's what's stopping me from being as fan, as, as big of a fan of the genre as a whole. The way I always view like fandom is always like kind of like a collector in a way. Like there's two types of collectors, right? There's someone who collects because they really love maybe the thing that they're collecting or something about it that speaks to them on a really personal level. And there's also the collector who just sees it as a social group and something to be a part of. Collects for perhaps social standing. Right. You know, maybe I have this, I have this card or I have this thing and like in those circles, that's worth something. And I feel like idols have the same thing where it's like, it is a currency being a fan and being a big fan is worth something. And that offers some form of social status in a, in a group of people. Yeah. You know, it's a form of belonging in a sense as well. And so I feel like that is the, the like the basic emotion that a lot of these things kind of tap into is like that want to belong and to be a part of something. Right. A lot of people, you know, could you always, I'm sure you know someone who is a permanent trend hopper. There's a trend and they will always try to be the biggest fan of that trend until it's no longer popular. And then they move on. And then two weeks later on Instagram, they're trying to something else now and they're, they're all in on it. And it's like, there's no way you can personally enjoy all of these things like, and organically, because you're only swapping based on what other people like. And there's some kind of like social, like interaction or some kind of social credibility that they feel like they're gaining from being deep into trends and understanding. Well, I don't think, I think there might be trend hoppers, but that gives it the kind of like assumption that they're just in there for. Oh, no, but I, obviously that was just an example. But I do think people, some people, some people obviously like might just enjoy it and like really love the music and that's what speaks to them. But some people just like being a part of something. Yeah, totally. That's why you'll always get like, I mean, you know, when like streamers or something they get like, they become like the most donated to streamer or the most subs. Dude, I was a part bro. I gave so much money to that. Yeah, yeah. Like, dude, like you gave money to someone like that's like you, yeah, you helped and that's cool. But like to have some kind of self worth attached to that and some kind of belonging. Well, I think everyone just wants to be a part of something. Exactly. I'm saying like this, I don't think it's always, it's always the same reasoning. Yeah. I mean, I've just like in terms of like K-pop fans, I've never been as big of a fan of anything. And I would say I'm like, there are things that I like and there are things that I'm fan of, but just that intensity to it. Yeah, it's never gone to the level of like obsession. Yeah. Yeah, as strong as some K-pop fans are. Yeah. We're almost like I've met K-pop fans where it's like part of their identity almost, you know what I mean? And it's, I don't know. This wasn't a topic in this movie, but there is like some fandoms out there where they are, bro, they're intense. They got that intense. K-pop most certainly has that. Yeah. My God, dude. I mean, dude, like just think back like a couple of years ago when like the fucking BTS fandom was like basically running like social media. And it's like, if you said anything bad about the BTS boys, you were getting publicly castrated by a group of people, you know? Yeah. But I feel now I would like to think that that is kind of over like that whole intensity. Did the time stand come from the K-pop community? No, I think it came from an Eminem song. No, I know it came from Eminem and Eminem. Eminem and Eminem song. And you used it like in common nomenclature. I think that came from K-pop. Yeah. Because like, yeah, it wasn't the whole point of stand was that it was like a dangerously obsessed fan. Yeah. Who kills himself. Yeah. K-pop fans are like, yes, that is us. That's willing to wheel. Oh, go joy. We will game over for our Queen and Kings. Please don't do that. I was at a coffee shop the other day and I was in the corner and I had a nice little corner and I had my phone up and a woman came up to me and was like, hey, is it okay if I have your seat? And I was like, oh yeah, sure. I don't mind. And then I didn't ask why. I was like, sure, I don't need the seat. Yeah. But she then explained to me, she was like, oh yeah, I just, I saw a picture that someone posted where they took a picture of all their BTS boys in this corner. So I'm going to do it too. I was like, okay. I don't remember asking, but okay. No, I just thought it was interesting. I mean, I didn't mind. I was just kind of like, I just happened to be very recently and I was like, oh, that's cool. I mean, I was happy for her. She seemed pretty happy and she was stoked. And I was like, yeah, go ahead. By all means. Yeah. I was like, she got her little BTS toys out of this little coffee. They're like four BTS. And then she had this little acrylic stand of BTS boys. And then another one with one of them framed in picture and she must have been like 60 or something. Right. And she had a coffee and took a picture. Oh, bless her. See, that's, that's, that's, that's wholesome. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't mind. Like also I, I wasn't like who asked. I was like, that's cool. Yeah. I didn't really get it. Like she's explaining to me in Japanese and I thought I was misunderstanding. Yeah. And I was like, okay, Japanese, but sometimes when I hear things that like are a bit unusual. Yeah. I think I must have misunderstood. Cause I'm like, I, okay. And then she just did it. I was like, oh, all right, cool. Yeah. And again, you know what? I'm jealous of people like that who, who they can be so into one thing that they do something that other people might see as like a mundane thing and just like gain so much happiness from I'm like, you know what? Yeah. Good. I'm happy that you're happy doing that thing. Bro, did you know, do you know who's getting on this? Like the same level of intensity as Kpop fans recently? Love and deep space. Fucking anime fans. Did you see? Bro, it's, it's getting up there. It's bro trash on an anime. You will find out. Like, trust me God, I found out for the past decade. Joey, I know we, we have been through the trenches, but God damn. It is a different war now. It is like world war. We were there during like the, you know, the middle age wars. Yo, they've discovered nukes. I mean, they've discovered machine guns out there. We're on the shores of Normandy back in the day. Now they've got drones. I remember when I said 86 was trash. I remember the war that unfolded. Oh, bro. Apparently every opinion I say about anime is just like, how dare you? No, they're right there. Yeah. Yeah, they are right. I think they're right. They're right. I just don't care. Yes. We, we love your favorite anime. Yeah, we do. But like, especially in like the modern, like, you know, with modern anime getting up there in popularity, bro. It's, it's like scary sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. It's, uh, yeah. I'm just having war flashbacks right now. The all new 2026 Toyota RAV4 is here building on everything drivers know and love about Toyota with a redesigned look and modern tech that makes life behind the wheel easier than ever. The new RAV4 comes standard as a hybrid providing smooth efficient performance for both city streets and longer journeys. Enjoy the legendary reliability Toyota is known for in the all new 2026 RAV4. 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When he turned, when he turned, I was like, no, Bobby. No, don't lose faith, Bobby. No. Wait, song one was in this? Yeah. Of course it was. One of the Sajiboy's. Oh, shit. And Guimar was in it too. Oh, damn. From Squid Game. Yeah. Oh, damn. Which I don't know. Mr. Beast tweet. No. Take a picture with him and he tweeted like, hey guys, I'm with 456 from Squid Game or like, or like, what's his name? I think he's, I think it's like contestant 456. Yeah. No, he was contestant number one. Just number one. People are like, bro, he has a name. Like, I maybe laugh a lot. I was like, yeah, I guess someone's social currency is only what people know them for. Yeah, that's true. Well, I mean, it's, it's unfortunately. Oh, Ken Jong's Bobby. I guess. Oh my God. Yes. Of course he was. Oh, that's why I loved him. That's a great, great cast lineup. And I forgot what the main antagonist, I loved him as well. He's really good. Oh, the pretty boy. Yeah. Who was he? He was phenomenal. And I, he was, his acting was great. Considering English is a second language as well. Yeah. Fucking phenomenal job. Yeah. It was so cool. Oh, G knew that's it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause isn't he in a, either a famous Korean actor or a singer? I can't remember. Well, I think the, the members of Hendrix almost tell me the law. Yeah. The member of Hendrix, the voice actors for the member of Hendrix, I think they're from twice, which is like the big Kpop group. No, that's not right. Is it? Or it's like, or it's like the songs are written by some twice, twice was in it. Twice was in it. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Go back. Go back. Look at this treat, bro. I don't know why it was so funny. What should me in four, five, six from squid game do for a video? Wow, dude. I mean, I mean, I can't show a little bit of respect. Come on. He's got a name. You could say, you could say his name. Four, five, six. You know, like you just say dreamer. I don't know if I'm saying it correctly. I apologize from squid game. Yeah. Like I've already watched the show knows who he is. Yeah. You don't have to. He's been in other shows. Jesus Christ. Jesus. But yeah, came up demon hunters. I thought I wasn't going to enjoy it. I proved myself wrong, thoroughly enjoyed it. It was good fun. Would you rewatch it? I don't know. I hope that someone tweets this out as like one, like we're like one of those alpha bro podcasts. Yeah. Like, oh, even the alpha bros are enjoying Kpop demon hunter. That's how you know it's good. Yeah. Fucking great. It's hard not to enjoy or recommend. Yeah. You'd have to be a real contrarian to not enjoy something like this. I feel like when you mentioned one more thing about the stan culture is that like I loved how it kind of poked fun at stan culture while also giving like homage to obviously Kpop. Yeah. Like how quickly the fans switched over to the Sardar Boys and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, we weren't into the stan culture. I think you can also enjoy that aspect that it like lightly poked fun of it, but also didn't try to like diminish it. I also like how, you know, one of the themes was kind of like showing your inner self, showing your true self, but having to hide that, which is obviously what, you know, Kpop idols and every idol has to do. It really felt like I didn't realize that. That's damn bro. That's so deep. Damn. I didn't realize that. They unlocked their termini behind the movie. Yo, I thought it was just about demons, bro. I thought it was just about Kpop. I just thought it was about woman empowerment, bro. What the heck? That's so genius. I thought it was the power of music. I didn't catch that. What the heck? Nah. Bro, I had no way. That's crazy. That's crazy, dude. No. I can't believe I didn't catch that. That's crazy. I'll do, I'll get like the 15th sub layer of the meeting. Yeah. Oh, I get it now. That's why it was that way. No, like this really did feel like from like writing to design to songs. Everyone working on this genuinely likes Kpop. You know, this was, this felt like a film made by fans for fans. For the fans. And this is what this is the kind of product you feel when the people making it are fucking passionate about the topic. That's definitely that they do and they are knowledgeable about the topic because there's so many subtle little things about it that wouldn't work unless you 100% understood and was a fan of that product. Definitely. Like the fact that, you know, there's, it's always, I feel like the hardest thing to do is to make something silly, but also take it 100% seriously. You know, and I feel like that's what, that's what Kpop even hunters did where it never took itself too seriously until it did. And those emotions always hit 100%. And I feel like that's fucking hard to do. Yeah. I think the writing just in general, like dialogue and everything was just like really solid. And like not only was it like, even though it is obviously, you know, has a fantasy element to the narrative, like the fact that like not only was the dialogue believable, but also like all of the plot points happening made sense for the story and was also just genuinely funny at some points as well was just like, Oh, hey, you know what? This is good. I enjoyed this. Like I can't, I can't sit here and be grumpy old man being like, I hate Kpop. Therefore, I hate everything that they say about this movie. It's like, no, it was fun. I mean, my one little criticism is that there were there were some jokes that didn't hit. And I was like, some jokes that I thought were a bit corny, but the whole thing was. Some jokes are a little Gen Z. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was so many in such a short period of time that one of, well, like one of the 10 hits. And I was like, okay, okay, that's when you saw a 10,000 darts at a dartboard. One of us is gonna hit. No, for sure. Yeah. So yeah, good recommendation patrons. Yes. Thank you very much. If you want to see our reactions to the movie, they are up on the patreon. So not only can you see our reactions to Kpop demon hunters, grumpy old men enjoying some good old Kpop. Yeah. But you guys will be able to give your recommendations. The patreon pick for next month's anime club. Please make it a good anime. Unlike the one that God recommended. I want to watch. I want, I want to restore my faith in modern anime. Please. Joey's just started watching anime again. Yeah. I started watching anime again. This was not the welcome I wanted. This really wasn't. So, yeah, leave your suggestions down over on the patron. Joey, I believe you are recommending. No, you are. Apparently of my war of the worlds was a. Oh shit. Okay. I didn't realize that was mine. Okay. Fuck. I didn't think of anything. We never do. We're just like, it'll be on screen. Right. We're gonna watch this. Yay. This thing. We're gonna watch read slash play this. I do know Joey's going to pick something good. He's going to, he's going to be like, you want to pick something bad? I'll pick something bad. I don't need to. It doesn't matter. It's your choice. Dude, nothing can be worse than fucking long legs, brother. She's fucking awful. I can find another crap horror movie. No, no. I watched fucking him and that was terrible. What's that? Jordan Peele production company horror movie. Oh, the new one? Yeah. But the American football player. Oh yeah. I heard it was not good. Fucking dog. What is it about? A guy who becomes a football player and he's a rising quarterback and there's just something not right about this. I hate the name. Him. Well, he's him. Yeah. That's why I hate the name. It's like his head caved in by some weird thing and then he gets trained. It was just bad. It was not good. Because I'm DB down right now. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Jordan Peele is really doing a lot of stuff. I guess produced by him. When the movie was coming out, it was all monk titters like Jordan Peele movie Jordan Peele. And then when it came out, they were like, I, yeah, no, he didn't have any. Yeah. Oh yeah. It was just done by his studio. Right. Yeah. It was not good. Yeah. I saw the trailer for this and I'm like, this looks really dumb. What makes it the horror? Cause this looks like a sports. No, no sports happen in this. What nobody plays a single game of football. Then why is he, why is he holding some footballs? What's he's training to be a footballer and that's the horror. What? Yeah. And then like, um, so you're watching the movie and like to be fair, the first one is 30 minutes, 40 minutes are actually quite engaging. Like he, you know, his, his head has been cracked open and you're not sure if he's seeing visions and his weird fucking clowns and shit that like keep coming in this vision. You don't know what's real. Yeah. And then this pro who he's going to take over from is like, I'll train you. I'll train you to be just like me. And then it's all time that they're like, he like, people are giving him drugs and he's like training, but the training is weird. If he misses a throw, this guy gets shot in the face with a, uh, uh, football shot in the face of the, yeah, but one of those machines that shoot is really far. Yeah. I saw that in the trailer and like, it's all just fucking weird. And then like, you like starts getting his blood from the previous goat. He's like, well, if you want to be the goat, you got to get the blood of the previous goat and it's all just weird. And then like, there's like a woman that comes into the fucking sauna and he like kills her and it's in like a training. It's all weird. And then it then last 30 minutes are like, wow, actually, you know, football, it's a cult. It's run by all the white men. And then they have a bunch of old white guys that are suddenly all the bad guys. You're like, okay, I mean, I get it. Yeah. It's a very on the nose. Uh, do you find that when a movie tries to give a metaphor that's a little bit too on the nose, you're just like, yeah. And then it's like a cult and then he like rejects the cult. But like, yeah, I mean, for me, it's like, yeah, I mean, obviously I think there's absolutely that could have worked, but I think the movie was setting up some supernatural elements so interestingly well and then for it to kind of flounder. But it was already like the movie was absolutely gone off the rails before this point anyway. Yeah. This is why I can't take a lot of modern horror seriously. You know, even though there's so much like good horror that is apparently coming out nowadays. Um, you just, I just hear about shit like this and I'm just like, how am I supposed to know now at this point? You know, I was also very homoerotic, which I also was very down with quite frankly. I mean, I don't mind that, but it felt like half of the time I was just meant to enjoy this guy was hot. Yeah. He was just pretty much naked the entire time when he snabs out, blushing. I didn't mind that, but I was like, I wonder who this is for? Cause there's no football in the football movie. And then I, you know, it's mostly this guy kind of just being hot. So I guess I don't know. Maybe there's an audience for this, but I don't know who it was. It's probably the, uh, the, the, would you say it's more targeted towards a female audience, you would say? Haps, but I mean, it's a horror movie. That's what I was thinking. I was like, maybe they think women are just dumb and they just want to see a hot guy. And maybe they just do. Cause sometimes, you know, as a guy, you just want to see a hot woman, but not really in a movie. I don't really watch a movie cause there's just a hot woman. Yeah. Do you ever view the rating of a movie when you're about to go see it? I try not to. Obviously you hear things. So sometimes you're like, when there's a lot of talk about a movie and it doesn't quite pan out, it's kind of impossible not to hear that. But I rarely hear about talks about movies compared to like the amount of movies you watch. Yeah. Yeah. I do try to watch a lot and I've been trying to watch horror lately cause I feel like it's the one genre I haven't really watched. But I, I, I'd say every 10 films I watch, I managed to watch at least four without hearing anything about it. Yeah. Which I think is a pretty good ratio. Yeah. It's a cool experience that I just don't get to do anymore. I cannot help myself with watching or hearing about stuff. Well, you know, the time I do this, the most is on planes cause I don't have great wifi and I don't really care to look at the rating. So I just read the film based off the thumbnail art thumbnail. That doesn't sound right. The poster cover. The poster art. Your YouTube brain. Well, there was one movie that I, and sometimes you just know when a movie's going to shock. Yeah. Like there was a movie with Martin Scorsese that apparently came out like 2024 and I'd never heard of it. Yeah. The monster. Casey, um, uh, Robert De Niro. Right. And I hadn't heard of this film and I was like, this has got to be a stinker. Can you tell me Robert De Niro, uh, filmography, uh, there was, and it had, I didn't watch it cause I was like, I just know it's going to be bad. Robert, Robert De Niro, not Robin. Robin De Niro. Uh, Alto Knights. That was it. Alto Knights. She's not heard of this movie. Oh. I guess it was a HBO Max direct. Yeah. 5.9 out of 10. Um, I hadn't, I hadn't heard of it. And I was like, I feel like if the Robert De Niro movie was good, I would hear all of that. Yes. Um, but I didn't watch it cause I, I just didn't have the, I didn't have it in me to watch Robert De Niro. Yeah. Badly. Okay. You guys have watched enough stuff, right? Yeah. To, to have a, have a feel about whether what you're about to watch is going to be good or bad. Whether the TV show movie, anime, what are like your biggest red flags that you're like, Oh, I'm, I think I'm watching a stinker right now. Hmm. It might depend on the genre of the film, but yeah, I think, I think what it might be is, uh, for me would be a film where you're maybe about, let's say 20 minutes in. Yeah. And you're kind of just sitting there and you're like, I don't know what this movie is about. I'm already 20 minutes into this film. It's like, what is this movie trying to do? Or what is like the, if I can't suss out the vibe of where I think even the story might potentially go. Yeah. In the first, maybe 15, 20 minutes. And I'm like, I feel like the writing is not all that there, you know, cause it's important. Like you need that hook, right? To get you to actually care about the characters or the story or whatever is the main focus of that particular film. Yeah. If I just don't see it when I'm already what, at least a quarter of the way through the film, then it's like, why am I here? Right. What was the last bad film you watch in the theater? Bro, I don't remember. I don't really, I rarely watch films in the theaters. Yeah. Same. Um, last, but probably the worst film I've watched. In general, the worst film I've watched. Um, well, I mean, water the world's pretty bad. Well, yeah. But that one looked bad. On a visual level and an acting level, that one was red flags. Yeah. Long Legs was like a beautiful, uh, movie. And like to look at it was, it was shot amazingly, but... It was a turd with sprinkles on it. Yeah. I think like when we were watching that, for example, it was giving itself like way too much time to, to kind of show off nothing. Yeah. It would really take its time and wouldn't use anything or, or try to use that time wisely. There was no, uh, building uncomfortableness. There was nothing that was happening in those, it was just time wasted. Yeah. They were just fart-assing around. And it felt insulting. Yeah. And then obviously you mentioned like cable demon hunters. We all watched that. And that is a show that went lightning fast, which, okay, then if it is also lightning fast and fun, great. Like, but it can also be lightning fast and a little bit shitty. And you're like, Oh, okay. Well, we're getting over with the next, yeah, next party. But I mean, I feel like this, you just, you just know it, but you don't know off the top of your head, but you just know you can't verbalize it, but you can feel it. Yeah. Because there's been a lot of movies where I felt if you, if Jared Leto is the, the starring actor, it's, it's hard to, yeah, hard to imagine. Except for a requiem for a dream. Jared Leto is the main actor in there. Yeah. Is he not? Wait, is he not? Yeah. I thought he was pretty sure he is. Is this like a Mandela effect? I mean, I could be totally wrong. It's been a long time since I watched this. Yeah. Yeah. I'm right. I'm right. How long ago was this? 2000, I think. So he's using, he hasn't been a good lead for 25 years. I don't understand how he keeps getting hired. I don't know. I'm a great agent. Yeah. Great fucking agent. Didn't he get into like some heat as well recently too? Did he? I swear he got caught up in something and not only that, but it's passed like three movies of all bomb. Yeah. Who keeps hiring him? Has he just turned into one of those actors where it's like, ah, yeah, we'll just put him into this movie. You know, maybe it's the opposite, right? It's like, oh, it because people will start hate watching it because Jared Leto's in it now. I don't think that's the case. I don't know, man. Every time I see Jared Leto pop up on my fucking socials, it's always something negative. What else has he been in? Aside from Morbius. Morbius. He was in Morbius, bro. House of Gucci. I did not watch House of Gucci. Oh yeah. He was in House of Gucci. That's right. He was in the Justice League. Oh yeah. Fucking Morbius. Oh, who's getting Lord of War? Because Nicholas Cage was good. Oh yeah. He was in Suicide Squad as well. That's right. He was very good in Dallas Buyers Club. I'll give him credit. He was very good in that. Wait. He was an American Psycho. Yeah. He was a fucking, um, let's see who's business guard. Oh yeah. Okay. He was good in that. More than not, he's not good. I feel like that's it. When he's the lead, I think. Yeah. He's just not a great lead. Yeah. He was in Fight Club as well. I forgot about that. And there are certain actors where I see them in the lead. I'm like, oh, I don't know. I'm not like, I'm like, I like Jason Statham, but most of his films where he's the lead. That's because he plays Jason Statham. Yeah. But like, there are certain actors when you see them in it, you're like, okay. What do you mean? Like the rock? Well, the rock's trying to turn it around now, God. He's trying to turn it all around. You're such acting range man. Yeah. Turn around. No, not what you mangs. Not what you mangs. He's turning it all around. Um, I watched the Minecraft movie. Oh, you did? I did watch it. How was it? Uh, it's a product of our time. Yeah. What is that supposed to mean? It is a, I don't know how to explain it other than like if you, you're the science thing with the image of that guy. Yeah. The science. Yeah. It's like if you pour TikTok into movie form. That's what I got from just the trailer. But you know, as always, Jack Black somehow ties it all together. He manages to do it. Man. Like just watching Jack Black is kind of entertaining. It's, it's like watching a guy who should have been in a retirement home, but he's just cracking bangers and you're like, keep him around. We'll always need him to say is I am Steve and then it's like greatest movie ever. Like he, I don't know. He's always just kind of, he just, I don't know how he does it. He's just always kind of fun to watch, but everything else about the movie is fucking atrocious. Cause he's just like, you can't hate the guy. You know, it's like seeing your friend on screen and being like, yo, that's my boy. Yeah. He's just gotten to, he's just got that energy. It's like when, when Nicholas Cage is good. Yeah. He's got an infectious energy that is, is really hard to walk, hard to look away from. He did not have that in long legs. Unfortunately. Did not have. I think it was just the wrong genre for him. It was not a genre made for Nicholas Cage to shine. Yeah. Yeah. But did he like code direct that? I think he code directed long legs, but I mean, was there anything surprising about the Minecraft movie at all? Anything surprising? Did you enjoy chicken jockey? Anything that went against your expectations or was it I'm here to watch a Minecraft movie and see memes and Minecraft and that's exactly what I was watching. Jason Momoa looked like he was dead on the inside. Yeah. I mean, it definitely felt like a paycheck watching the actors, but you know, it's fine. It's for a guru guy movies and it's fine. I mean, Jack Black is the Jack Black and that's probably why they hired him because yeah, I feel like a movie like this only works. So not even Jack Black could save the fucking Borderlands movie. Yeah. You know, it's claptrap. Yeah. I mean, the Minecraft movie without having seen it seems like something that was made via board meeting. Yeah. I mean, like any, any, any media is funny if you just make Jack Black say your memes and go like, like, you know, like, I don't know, like JoJo, if he'd like the fucking JoJo meme, or if he just goes like, he just shouts them out. JoJo meme. What do they say? I don't know. He goes like, oh my, we're most shit there. I'm sure you'd be like, okay, that's kind of funny. Not JoJo. I know. You just get him to shout. I want to see Jack Black as Kensho. That'd be the funniest shit ever. You can already see it. He'd be like, and the joke is that Kensho is fat. Yeah. And he fell off. I mean, like, yeah, I used to be a big, strong guy, but not anymore. And then it cuts to like fucking, having a shot of a house and then like fucking music plays and he gets started with his day. You can already fucking see these movies. It's the same movie. Yeah. The same movie with Jack Black. Yeah. But it's fine because he somehow is just entertaining. I mean, the Mario movie as well. Yes. Yes. And staining. I will say the Sonic movie is, I think that's the exception. I think that's the exception. Sonic movie feels like this was the people making this kid really fucking cares about Sonic. Yeah. It's still just popcorn fun, but it's like on another level where it's not just the most forgettable thing of all time, which is kind of what I felt about the Mario movie. Yeah. The Mario movie was fine, I guess. It just relied too much on its star power, I think. And it just was a bit unnecessary. It was an inoffensive, fun movie with Jack Black. Jack Black was definitely the best part, which is what I think about. Poochies, poochies. Yeah. Which is what I imagined for the Minecraft movie as well, which is, you know, it's made for Minecraft fans and Minecraft fans will get what they want out of it. If you're not a Minecraft fan, what I imagine is that there's not going to be much for you. You know? Yeah. You don't really have to do much for it to... How much did the Minecraft movie make? Oh, brother, you don't want to know. Like, you don't want to know. How much did it make? Bro, you don't want to know. It's like a probably a stupid amount of money. Oh, you don't want to know. Holy shit. Oh my God. That number gave me indigestion. God damn. Yeah. Jesus. A bomb short of a bill. Sure. You audio listeners, a billion dollars, $957 million. That's insane. Oh, and of course there's already a sequel schedule for 2027. All right. Microsoft likes money, bro. That's going to be the greatest becoming the third highest grossing film. Wait, that was this year. Minecraft movie was this year, bro. This feels like a decade ago. Holy shit. What's the second highest grossing video game film of all time? What's the number one? That's a great question. Mario? No. No, I think it might be Mario, bro. Really? Mario and Medibel. Mario and Medibel, bro. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised, but... Yeah, Mario and Medibel. Oh, wow. Mario and Medibel. Why do you think they fucking made the second one so goddamn fast? Yeah, it's true. Yes, standards. Yeah, Jack Black with the duo. Yeah, right? Jack Black. He's 2 for 2 right now. Literally a billion dollar man. Yeah. What are the highest grossing film of 25? I'm genuinely curious now. Yeah, let's check it out. I think it's depressing. Yeah, probably Superman's in there. I think it's depressing. Let's see this. Highest grossing film. Oh, dude, you know what? I watched Nazar 1. Was it good? No. What is it? It's the Chinese animation that made... I watched Nazar 1 and maybe Nazar 2 is a great one, but Nazar 1, not great, bro. In the English dub of it, which I watched, they had budget Jack Black doing the voice. I'm not kidding. They had someone basically try and emulate Black Jack. Wait, how have they never heard of this film? No, it's now like the highest grossing film of all time. Is it film of all time? Definitely anime. I think film of all time. Yeah, it's high-scracing film of all time. Really? Yeah. You never heard of Nazar, bro? No. I haven't heard of Nazar. Still Avatar. Still Avatar. How did Avatar get it back? I swear, didn't Avengers dethrone them? How did they get it back? How does Avatar keep making money? Oh, yeah. So Nazar 2 is the highest-grossing animated film. Yeah, I don't think it's full time. It's Chinese. That's probably why you haven't heard of it. Yeah. Bro, there must be... You know those old guys in the park? You know me and the Chinese? Those guys in the park play Pokemon Go on like 15 phones. Yeah. They must be due to do that for Avatar. Probably, yeah. Cameron has paid them. He's keeping the Avatar fucking industry alive. How is Avatar number one? That's crazy. Yeah. Wait, go back to the list of the video game, or the 2025 movies. Yeah, 2025. Yeah. Okay. The other one. Yeah, here we go. Lilo and Stitch. That is... Your Demon Slayer number five, baby. Can I say this diabolical that Lilo and Stitch is number two? Yeah. That feels, dude. We're so cooked. Jurassic World Rebirth? Yeah. That movie was so ass. Mission Impossible Final Reckoning. How to train your dragon as well? I will say the best film on this list from my perspective, who's only watched a third of these. Yeah. F1, bro. Yeah, I was about to say. I've heard F1 is good. Yeah, I've heard F1 is awesome. F1 was such a good fucking movie. I'm so glad it popped off. Yeah. It's a great movie. Really fun. Brad Pitt being Brad Pitt, man. Bring that star power. Holy shit. I can't believe Lilo and Stitch made a billion. I can't believe Jurassic Park Rebirth made 800 million. We are so cooked. How did Jurassic Park make so much money? Because it's Jurassic Park. It's Jurassic Park. Didn't that film do cheeks? Didn't no one watch this? It's branding power, dude. This is crazy. Branding power. This is why we can't have good things. Yeah. Let's complain about live action remakes. Oh, wait. We got Lilo and Stitch and how to train your dragon making a fucking ton of money. This is bonkers. This shit was dog. Make sure you realize, damn, how much power do the people on social media actually have versus the average consumer, man? None, zero. None, zero. No matter what you hear about what the conversation is, the money doesn't lie. The data doesn't lie. Yeah. I'm making shits. Well, at least, yeah. Fuck. It's depressing. The one good thing that came out of this list is I watched F1 and that got me into Drive to Survive. So I've been watching that. What's Drive to Survive? Oh, dude, it's so good. It's literally they made a half documentary, half reality show about Formula One. Oh, sure. And they have like full access to the teams and the managers. And so it's just great. It's like 10 episodes. And they basically over the 10 episodes, they'll go over a year of Formula One. It's amazing. It's so good. I'm like on season five right now. Would you say you're into Formula One now? Yeah, bro. I'm in it now. I can't wait to fully catch up so I can actually look at spoilers because right now it's all spoilers. I'm like, I run here. So you're going to start watching F1 now? Yeah. I want to start watching F1 after this. I'm nearly done with it. I'm nearly caught up and then I can finally watch F1. You should hit up Kevin. He's a man. I told Kevin that I was getting into F1. He did that. He did that fucking shrak me. We was like, getting into F1. He's like, first, first watches now we have one. He loves it. He's like, he's like, I'm like becoming Kevin's protege, but I can't, but I can't hear good. I'm just, I'm like, I like wine. I like F1 and I like watches now. Why? I haven't got any more watches, but I like listening to your entry level and to like all of them. I just like hearing Kevin talk about watches. Yeah. I'm pretty fun watching the F1 and rooting for people and the villains and the heroes and whatnot. It's been really good there, but this is amazing. If you want to kind of get into F1, I'd say this is the best way. Okay. Because it makes it so understandable. I want to watch F1 the movie. The movie is so, so good. I feel like really good. Watch this first. Watch this first. Yeah. Watch this first. Hmm. Wouldn't F1 be like the more packaged? I guess kind of thing to like get started. But there's a lot of stuff that I watch in this. I just want my phone, the movie, like they're literally ripping from it. Oh, so F1, the movie has a lot of references. Yeah. I feel like there's a lot of like things that they take that have things that have happened in real life. Yeah. I don't use it in the movie. Considering you enjoyed F1 and you can definitely, yeah, you definitely can. Yeah. But I just want to see Brad Pitt at his peak again. You know, that's just everyone loves seeing Brad Pitt do Brad Pitt things. Yeah. Yeah. He literally plays the same character in half the movies and so he's so good. I'm good at it. He's just so good at it. Yeah. There's some movie stars where you just, you just want to watch them just do the thing. Yeah. Totally. Brad Pitt is definitely one of them. Jack Black. Well, apparently so Joey, apparently so. The people have spoken. They want to see Jack Black do Jack Black thing. Jason Statham. I hope he's happy. Who's Jason Statham? Yeah. I hope he's happy. Why? I just hope he enjoys those movies. Because he's already bald, you know? I think so. I'm kidding. What is with this bald slander and the rock as well? Yeah. My favorite thing about the rock is that, you know, there's like, they'll do those Reddit posts like, who's the best wrestler turned actor? And the commentator is like, rock, we're not going to change your mind. Stop posting this hoping for a different outcome. Yeah. What's this? What's this? The superhero one? Peacemaker. Peacemaker. Yeah. John Cena. Yeah. I heard it's really good. I mean, I loved, he was probably one of the best parts of the Suicide Squad, the second one. Yeah. Honestly, I think John Cena is just really fucking entertaining as well as an actor. He's a very good comedic actor. Yeah, he is. He's got really good like presence and he's very like flexible with how he moves and just really fun to watch. Yeah. And there's Dave Patissa as well. He's really good as well. Yeah. He's really good as well. A lot of talent people. Yeah. And doing, doing, showing a lot of range, you know. You guys watch anything else? Interesting lately or interesting? I'm trying to think now if there has been a lot of things I watched because I've been watching a lot of, you know, haven't been watching current anime. Been watching a lot of short anime. I don't know if you've seen this Joey, but there's this anime anthology called memories. Oh dude. I fucking love it. You love memories? Yeah, dude. Memories is golden. I discovered it this year and holy shit. Magnetic rose is fucking incredible. Magnetic rose is so fucking good. So good. So memories is an anthology series that was made by the creator of Akira. Ultima Katsuhiro. Yeah. And it's literally Akira in space. And damn, sometimes you watch something and you're like, you know, don't want to be that guy who says they don't make him like they used to, but damn, they don't make him like they used to, man. I've hit that era. So my favorite one used to be raw. Yeah. There are some scenes in magnetic rose that are like some of the best animation I've seen. It's a different type of good animation than your typical flashy action animation. Just there's so much subtlety to the movement and something about it just draws you into. It's so haunting. It is. So memories has three short films. The first one is magnetic rose and bro, listen to this like all star team. This was co-written by Satoshi Kon. Oh my God. This was before like Satoshi Kon grew up. The director is like the art director of Akira as well. Kojima Ramota. Yes. Music by Yoko Kano. Oh my God. Yeah. This is like the fucking all star. Yeah. It really is. It is like insanely stacked in terms of stuff. Even the other two ones are stink bomb and what's the other one? Is it cannon fodder? Cannon fodder. That's it. Even the other two shorts are pretty damn good, but my God, magnetic rose is just on another level. Is it like quite gritty or how do you describe it? You've seen, you have seen, have you seen any Satoshi Kon work? Yeah. So you've seen perfect glue. Perfect glue. So this story is very Satoshi Kon coded. Basically it's only a 40 minute film. So it's like it's a very short film, but to, you know, lay it out with our spoilers, this group of like space junk, space garbage men, space engineers. I'm not sure which one junk yard collectors. They get a distress beacon from this space station. And so they go to investigate it. And what they find is like this immaculate mansion that is somehow untouched. And as they explore it, they encounter things that really makes them question what is reality and what isn't. And they, as the more they explore it, the more they get, they encounter this kind of, or it's almost kind of like Lovecraftian cosmic horror. Lovecraftian horror. And it's just a very cool, tight little package. And that's all I'm going to say without. Yeah. That's all I'm going to say about it. It is, you know, this was written by Satoshi Kon before he did any of his other works as well. Well, this is when he was still an assistant to Otomo, Akira Manga. So this was like kind of his start into like the animation side of things. Yeah. And this was also Yoko Kano before she blew up with her other works as well. So you get to see a lot of early fingerprints from people that would kind of define the anime industry. Yeah. This was like the era where the goats were like mad hungry. They were hungry to make like the coolest shit. Yeah. And it just came together beautifully. Yeah. And I just, I just love anthologies as well. Yeah. I've dubbed this recently. It looks like they dubbed it recently based on the cast. I'm not sure. No idea. But the dub is pretty damn good. I watched it in both sub and dub. Oh yeah. And the dub is pretty good as well. So I don't know if they dubbed it. 2020. Yeah. I was just looking at the cast list and I was like, those are all actors that are doing things now. Not 1990. Yeah. But I just watching this maybe realized how much there's just this vibe to old school anime that just feels totally fucking different. I can't put my finger in it, but maybe maybe it's like the colors, the character designs. I feel like post the digital era of anime, they all have this kind of like feel to them a lot of the times, especially the modern anime. You know, there's this, there's patterns with the character designs, the colors that they use are a bit more saturated as well. It's the hand colored hand painted look, I think from the nineties. And especially, you know, stuff from like Otomo where he was like very particular with that. You know, there's like that famous story of how with the Akira movie, the reason why the budget was so high is because it's like, the budget was so high is because at that time, I think they use the most amount of colors out of any animated film ever. And that in and of itself just like took them fucking forever to make. And you can see that in something like Akira because it's just like it's dark and yet it's vibrant. And the fact, and there's not a lot of anime that can do that. And that's why it's still like, that's why Akira still looks fucking amazing 35 years later or however many years it's been. Well, that's my that's my favorite fucking recent, recent thing on Twitter where it's posting like old anime and being like, damn, damn animation was like, what happened? Peak, peak. And it's like people people of realizing that animation doesn't scale like graphics cards do you? Yeah, upscaled 4k. Yeah, I actually like fucking bollocks. It's just like, yeah, good animation has always been a good animation. It doesn't, it doesn't, you know, nowadays technology makes it easier for good animation to become more consistent, but it's not like, it's not like suddenly pain to painstaking back in the. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, totally. And just makes you like some of the some of these scenes in memories, especially just makes you like think there are some shots of dynamic camera angles. And I'm like, how the how much work did they did it take to figure this out? I'm like pen and paper basically because nowadays we have computer graphics, you can especially you think of some of the dynamic shots and attack on Titan and there's like you can get a virtual camera with a CG background to help you. But damn, they had to hand draw that fucking that to hand draw all that shit. That's the Satoshi Kahn power man. Like he just he was so ahead of his time. Yeah. Genius. Yeah. Fantastic. You should definitely watch this. And I think I think the biggest thing about all around me as well and just older shows in general is that that it it feels weird watching characters that don't have an associated. Let's say archetype to build off of that. Yeah. See characters. I'm like, there's no this guy. Yeah. Cause cause like even even if I love like the writing and characterization of something like someone like Free Wren or example, I can still see like even like Free Wren, I can still see like the. There's the dumb kids. There's the the smart but quiet one. Yeah. Free Wren is a great take on a kudere, for example. Yes. But you know that that is still like a trope that has been like trickled down from like, I don't know if it's Ava that started this way. And she's a well written character, but a lot of these, a lot of these older anime I watch, you're like these people, they don't have an associated trope that I can like draw back from. They just, they feel like, I don't know, they feel like people in a way. Yeah. I think it was, I think it was Hayami Azaki who said this or someone like that, where they made a good point where they were like the problem with a lot of modern. And that's a lot of modern anime characters. And the fact that like they are, you can kind of push them into like a pigeon hold trope or whatever it is, is the fact that is, and this is an all modern anime, but a lot of modern anime is influenced by other anime. Whereas. Didn't you say it was like inbred? Yeah. He's like, it's inbred. It's like, it's like anime influencing anime. Whereas things like, you know, Ghibli and like, you know, early stuff like, you know, Satoshi Kon work and Ultima Katsuhiro's works. It's, they didn't take inspiration from anime. They took it from other mediums or the real world. And so that's why it feels, even though the setting that they are put themselves in is very, not anime, but like very fiction. And you can tell it's not based in reality. The characters themselves and the way they interact with that world feel real. Yeah. And you can't like, like there's no one in Akira where they're like, oh yeah, Kanada's a tsundere. Like you don't have that, right? It's not that simple because I think those writers understand that people in the real world are not simple. They're not like one note. Yeah. Do you guys want to know the only kind of like personality framework that I fuck with? Because we've talked about this before. True. But I got into this when I kind of go into like screenwriting. Can you search up Enneagrams, Kai? So this was like a screenwriting tool that helped me that I go into because it was like helping me like. Visualize the characters. And I got into it as kind of like a helpful guide about how to like characterize, you know, fictional characters. And then you get into it and you start reading some of these personality types. And I mean, you're like, this is a shit. This is hitting a little bit too close to home. What the fuck? And I've never had that with a personality test before because the whole point of this one, because I think the problem with like a lot of personality tests is that it kind of puts your, puts how you act into like different characteristics like the IMTP test or whatever. What the Enneagram is based on is not so much your personality traits, but the whole point of it is when you grow up, you have to deal with bullshit. You have to, you have, you learn to deal with problems in your life, right? And so what the Enneagram preaches is not so much your personality traits, but it is how do you deal with trauma or conflicts within your life? And to me, that was like a far more accurate way about how do we really categorize people's personality types? So instead of being like, oh, you're an energetic person. You are a, you're a this kind of person. This goes down into, this goes down into you, you, you, you, when you grew up, you had a lack of control in your life. And so growing up, you have kind of realized that you would like, you have manifested different ways to protect yourself, to give more control over your life. And you know, that it's, you know, that's one personality type, for example, everyone has a different, different trauma that it dealt with when they were a kid and a different way that they have learned to protect themselves from the world. And it has manifested itself into different ways to the point where, you know, even though I use this for fictional characters, I'm like, bro, there are some people that I feel I can put into this. Like, yeah, right. Wait, wait, wait, go, go, go back to the main one, Kai. Like go to the Enneagram Institute, I think the second one. The nine Enneagram type. Yeah, for me, I'm a type five. I'm 100 percent investigator. I'm 100 percent a type five. So type fives basically the base we fear being useless, helpless or incapable. So to cope with that fear, we have to become confident and how do we come competent? We basically try to gain as much knowledge as we can. And this is like a lot of this is subconscious drive, right? So we try to gain as much knowledge, as much kind of like be as competent in a certain, just in as much as life, in as much as life as possible. And our drive for that basically comes out of our STEM, STEMs from a fear of being helpless or incapable or useless. So we kind of like compensate for that by trying to be as capable and as prepared for something as possible. And I was like, I remember I was like, reading through these like different character types. I was just like, and then I get to type five. I was like, holy shit, this is, this is just like me for real. This is hitting a little bit too close for me. Type five means always needing to learn to take information around the world. A day without learning is like a day without sunshine. As a type five, I want to have an understanding of life. I have, you know, that's almost I can see myself in there. I wonder if the viewers will learn something new. They can go check it out. Yeah. I want to look into this. Joey, I think, I think, okay, wait, what do you think I am? See, it's hard because the thing that's hard about this is that only you categorize yourself. Yeah, because it comes, it stems from like deep fears on surface level. I think you might be a type nine. The peacemaker. I do like peace. Yes. Basic desire to have inner stability, peace or mine. Key motivations. Wants to create harmony in their environment to avoid conflict and tension, to preserve things as they are, to resist whatever would upset or disturb them. That sounds like me for real. Peace maker. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's like, what do you think Connor is? Yeah. Connor's a hard one. Before you wrap it up. Before, before. What am I? What am I to end the answer? This is like astrology for dudes. I think you're either a type eight or a type one. The challenger or what was type one? I think he's more a type eight based on based on my understanding of Connor. The powerful. Wow. That sounds like a joke. Basically you, your basic fear is being fear of being harmed or controlled by others. So you decide to protect yourself and that means to be in control of your own life and your own destiny. That's pretty on point. You want to be self reliance and to prove your strength and resist, resistance to weakness to be important to their world. And by, and you do that by dominating your environment. And that is a basic desire to stay in control of that environment. I'm going to look this up. Okay. Well, I'm going to go and cry now. I've learned about myself. I'm going to reevaluate my life real quick. But hey, in the meantime, look at all these patrons. Let us know what type you are down in the comments. This is an entire rabbit hole. I fucking fell down. Cause I was like, I've, I've read about like IMTP and all that other personality tests. This is one where I'm like, shit, this is actually, this, this actually is like, motivations are a lot more powerful. Yeah. Sure. It's yeah. Hey, thanks for watching guys. 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